Mom Rage: Hormonal Or Just Tired? + Disney Trip Planning

Molly and Megan start this week by reviewing their Fourth Of July plans and, of course, their execution. Molly discusses her family outing to the parade and their trip to the Detroit Zoo. Meg tells us about her surprise trip to Cedar Point and the private beach viewing of the fireworks. 

While discussing what makes them mentally healthy mothers, Molly reported perusing a bookstore while Meg took a different approach with her mid-day mental health shower while solo parenting.

Meg then goes on a rant outlining her rough plans for her upcoming Disney World trip, while weighing the pros and cons of different resort options.

Then Molly and Meg get into their topic for this week: Mom Rage and its triggers. Molly starts by explaining what mom rage is and whether she believes it to be hormonal. She then explains how all messes related to eating lead to an embarrassing amount of frustration, while Meg discloses that dogs, while once fluffy and great couch companions now can set you off with the click of their nails. The ladies each list a few comical examples of what creates overstimulation. 

Thank you for listening and we hope you enjoy! We will meet you back here next Wednesday. 

TOPICS (in order): Fourth Of July, Detroit Zoo, Megan's Husband x3, Cedar Point on the Fourth Of July, Disney World, Caribbean Beach vs. Port Orleans French Quarter, Mom Rage triggers

Episode Transcript

(00:10):
Every time that we go somewhere,I don't eat because.
Because you're stressed or watching.
The kids? No, it's kids.
Yeah. It's like I'm managing children
anyway, so I don't eat very muchat like, social events anymore.
And so I'm angry and famish whenwe get home.
Oh yeah. And I needed something to watch
on my phone, so I brought up Thomas's marketing video of your
parents house. OK, Taylor and I watched it and

(00:34):
the whole time I was just like, you're not marketing it to the
Bros made. Me laugh like.
Well, yeah. I don't use that.
You can tell from my physique. I know he also made a joke about
how the living space is good formovie nights and he's like I
picked the best movies. It's a family joke that Thomas
picks the worst movies. Every single movie he picks were

(00:58):
like this is terrible. Before he said inside joke I
literally said out loud I doubt you were the one who picks the
best movies. He's like his the movies he
picks are so boring. All of us refused to let him
pick movies. It's terrible.
That's funny. We'd rather scroll on Netflix
for an hour than let Mamas pick a movie.

(01:18):
Oh my God, nothing ruins a mood then when you can't decide with
your husband what you're going to watch and you guys just
scroll on Netflix forever and you're like fuck it, let's not
spend any time together. I can guarantee you when I left
to come in here, Taylor was like, I got to find something
else to watch. And I can guarantee you right
now, he's still scrolling, stilltrying to figure it out.

(01:38):
He takes. It ruins my mood that makes me
so angry. Me too good I.
Don't want to have fun anymore? All right.
Welcome back to the Mom Sense podcast with Molly and Meg.
I'm Molly. And I'm Meg.
We did what we've said we were going to do and we got kind of
caught up in ahead of schedule. So we haven't recorded in week,
which is a first for us. Yeah, yeah, it was last Sunday,

(02:00):
right? Yeah, is it?
Yeah, wow. That is over a week.
Sunday morning, because it's Sunday, it is over a week.
You're not wrong. I wasn't trying to like, nitpick
you. No, Yeah, yeah.
It's been a long time. Feels like a long time, like it
was last week, but it feels likeforever.
So we're going to review 4th of July weekend.
I've never been like a make a plan to go watch fireworks.

(02:20):
I think I've watched fireworks maybe once in my life, once or
twice when I was a kid. Like, we don't do it, but I have
a new found hatred for fireworks.
I don't think that they're anything spectacular.
I think they're obnoxious. But there's a whole new hatred
in my heart after having Penelope.
Because in our house, we are notby a lake, we're not by

(02:42):
somewhere that does the city fireworks, but we can hear them.
I don't know where they're at compared to our house because
you can't see them, but we can hear them.
And it kept Penny up for like 3 hours.
She would fall asleep and 20 minutes later she'd start crying
and rolling around and then I'd go soothe her and she'd fall
back asleep and then she'd wake up again and I was like, I'm

(03:02):
going to file a complaint. Yeah, no, every time.
If it's a city, I'm like, OK, this is just part of the
holiday, whatever. If I can tell it's some Jackass
shooting them off in his backyard, I'm like.
Die. Yes, Seriously.
Seriously. Gosh, you're going to be the guy

(03:23):
that blows off his hand. You deserve it because my kids
not. Sleeping Other than that on the
4th of July Taylor and I were brave and we were like we're
going to take Penny to the 4th of July parade in town.
I haven't been to 1/4 of July parade since I was a kid and
went to the one in the town we grew up in and Taylor has never

(03:44):
been to 1. So I was trying to explain to
him we might want to get there early because I'm sure parking
downtown is going to be non existent.
We should take the smaller stroller because it's going to
be packed and I don't think thatwill be be able to get the wagon
around. And he was like, what?
Where do you think we live, Times Square?
I was like, Taylor, I don't think you understand.

(04:04):
Like, parades are a huge deal intowns.
And lo and behold, we got there.And it was.
So I was getting anxious. Seriously.
I was getting anxious. I was like, I can't.
I was actually, OK, this fits our topics so well.
And I have a feeling that my vibe and my personality is
perfect for today because I'm, like, irate tonight.

(04:28):
Yeah. But so I was about to have a
full on meltdown because there are so many people that will
stop in the middle of the sidewalk.
I'm like, I'm going to murder somebody.
I hope you burn your tongue later.
Seriously. It's a small town so everybody's
walking down the sidewalk and sees 50,000 people they know and

(04:49):
they say hey and stop in the lowsidewalk.
I'm like, I'm going to RAM you with this stroller and I won't.
Seriously, I'm going for your Achilles.
Yeah, so I was not thrilled, butwe went to this brunch place
Taylor and I love, and I was like, there's no way we're going
to get a spot. It's right downtown, right by
where the parade goes by. It's one of the best brunch

(05:13):
places in town. There's no way.
And we did, and we got a view ofthe parade from inside.
So on this 95° morning, we didn't have to watch from
outside. Wait, that's so smart.
Yeah, because everybody is sitting outside watching the
parade and trying to kick candy and.
And it was at 10 AM, right in the middle of Penny's nap.

(05:34):
So that's what I meant by Taylorand I were brave because we
decided to do this instead of her normal nap schedule and for
the most part she handled it pretty good.
We made it through about 3/4 of the parade before we left and we
did breakfast and then we went outside for a little bit.
Seemed to do great. I was very proud of us.

(05:55):
That's great. And also the other thing that's
really terrible about the 4th ofJuly, in addition to four kids,
in addition to fireworks, is thefact that during the parade
everyone has to honk their stupid horns nonstop.
And it's like starred linked to little kids.
So you at least got to like muffle that sound by being
inside. Yeah.
And there was like, yeah, we were inside, so it was fine.

(06:17):
But there was a section in our town, which I thought was really
cool, where they designated it for families or kids that are
sensory sensitive, where there wouldn't be any sirens, no
horns. You can watch everything go by
without worrying that it's goingto set your kid off.
Yeah. So I thought that was cool.
We didn't go to that section, but we were inside, so it was
easy. Yeah.

(06:37):
That's awesome. Yeah.
So either way, I thought it was very successful.
I was proud of Taylor and I for getting out out of our comfort
zone. I was really proud of Penny for
handling it like a champ and then we felt like we did
something for the holiday, whichwas really nice.
Yeah. So to to your point about the
4th of July parades, apparently the 4th of July parade that we
have here in town is the largestin West Michigan.

(07:01):
Which is a very small town. Very small.
Very small. Last year, Reese was a part of
the parade with her dance studio.
And I was sweating bullets, so scared because parades are the
place where someone does something stupid and I'm not
with my small child. It was very scared.

(07:22):
I put she wore her her costume, her dance outfit, and I,
underneath her skirt, put a air tag because there's way too many
people. So it was a very stressful time.
This year, she was like, I don'twant to be in the parade.
I want to sit by you guys so that I can get candy.
And I was like, thank God. Yeah, yeah, we didn't end up
going to the parade because Colton have two mornings before

(07:42):
the 4th of July. He went to work and he texted me
and was like, when you have timeI need to talk to you, can you
give me a call? And I was like, I don't like
that. Is it an?
Emergency and he said it's not an.
Emergency, but it's important. And so I call him and he's like,
OK, so we are going to Cedar Point for two nights and he took
care of literally everything. I did not have to do anything

(08:05):
besides pack. Ace.
Yeah, I was so, so nice. I had to worry about nothing.
And it was really cool because we didn't have any like firework
plans. I got this like spark to go do
something, but literally everything was booked.
So he found a resort that was still available and we got to go
down to Cedar Point and 1st day we went to the water park.

(08:27):
It was a zoo. But it doesn't really matter.
We still had a lot of fun when we go down to Cedar Point as
opposed to just staying in the like your point bubble, so to
speak. We've been going into downtown
Sandusky and that's been really cool.
Downtown Sandusky is the cool little area and they've like
really nice restaurants like breweries, little ice cream
parlors, all of these cool things.

(08:48):
So we went out to dinner and then we went and got ice cream
and went back to our hotel. Everyone went to sleep in the
morning. We got up when we went to the
park and then I had booked us a beach viewing for the fireworks
because I knew that the peninsula was going to be an
absolute zoo. And so I just didn't want to
deal with, I don't know, have tofight with a crowd with two
little kids late at night. So we got to go on to the beach

(09:10):
where it was like turned off andwe all had our own little chairs
and we got to watch the fireworks.
It was so, so nice. Like I really enjoyed it.
So how do your kids do when you keep them up that late past
their bedtime? Because Taylor and I said that
like, what if we went and saw fireworks?
Penny would love that to like tolook at them.
But we were also like, they won't even start until two hours

(09:31):
past her bedtime. There's no way.
I mean, of course Penny's probably too small, but for your
age girls, how do they handle staying up Deli one?
What we did was we went to CedarPoint early in the day and we
stayed there until like 2:00, and then we went back to our
hotel room. Everyone besides me napped for
like an hour and a half and thenthey woke up and they were in

(09:52):
fighting for him. Usually Brooke, if she's going
to take a nap, she takes a nap around noon.
So yeah, bump your bed, bump your last nap.
Later. OK, good to know.
Yeah, worked out. OK, so other than the parade,
Taylor and I also wanted to do something for the 4th of July.
But we are always go up north and I looked at every kind of

(10:12):
hotel, Airbnb, anything that we could we could stay at and there
was nothing that was reasonably priced.
The only couple options that were available were double or
triple what they typically wouldbe.
So we decided we would do fun things around town.
So we went to the Detroit Zoo, which I've been on.
I don't know why. The animals maybe.

(10:34):
No, no, Taylor and I went to theDetroit Zoo for the lights show
in December a couple years ago. So we didn't go to see animals.
No, we went for like the Christmas stuff.
OK. So when we went, it was late at
night. We were seeing Christmas lights.
So like I couldn't really visualize the lay of the land.
So it felt very new to me when Igot there.

(10:56):
Anyway, in the morning, I was looking at the weather and it
was going to be so ungodly hot. I'd already bought tickets and I
couldn't figure out how to like move them to a different day.
I was a little concerned becausethere was like an air quality
advisory, but it ended up being fine.
So we were like, we'll just bitethe bullet and go.
If it gets that bad, we'll just leave.
So of course, we packed up all of Penny's stuff, her toys, her

(11:19):
snacks, the thousands of different kinds of sunscreen,
water in every form you could get it, and four different kinds
of cups. I had a fan Mr. So something
that was like a fan, but also you could Mr. I had so many
options. I was like, I got to keep this
baby cool. I'm freaked out.
I had two different hats becauseone hat I like, it's easy to put

(11:42):
on her and it like covers the most surface area, but she
doesn't like it. She takes it off all the time.
So then I got the other hat and I was like, Oh my God, we're
destined to have fun in some capacity.
OK, The zoo is like exactly an hour from our house.
So we figured it out post nap for Penny and we got there.
We loaded her up as soon as we stepped out of the car.

(12:05):
She wasn't even out of the car yet.
As soon as we stepped out to getthe wagon all out, I was like,
Oh my God, it is so hot. It's that kind of heat where
there was a breeze, but the breeze was hot.
I was like, I feel like I'm in amicrowave right now.
I was trying to keep my mood up.I was like, it'll be fun.
I love zoos. If I don't think too hard about
them, like the injustice and everything, they're fun.

(12:30):
Other thing, like the other thing is when I was a kid and I
would go to zoos, I would alwayspick my favorite animal that I
saw and get a stuffed animal of it at the gift shop before we
left. So I was very excited to do that
with Penny. And I brought this up to Taylor.
I was like, I can't wait to do that.
He's like, do you think she's going to tell you which animal
she likes? Like no, I'll pick. 4 buzz kill.

(12:51):
We walked in, I was sweating before we even gave the girl our
tickets. I was like Oh my God, this is
terrible. But I saw a lot of other
families with kids, so I was like, OK, it's not bad.
Mom of me to be. We're stocked.
I got it. So we started walking in and it
had to be a mile before you get to the first animal.
I swear to God, when are we going to see this first freaking

(13:14):
animal? It is taking me forever.
When you're walking, is there still all those signs that say
say, I do at the zoo? I don't think so.
OK, sorry if anyone gets marriedat the Detroit Zoo, but if you
did, why maybe it maybe ended upbeing.
Beautiful animals. Like Penguin?

(13:36):
There's nothing worse than Penguin smell, EW.
No, but like, I am curious what drew you to that place if you
got married at the Detroit Zoo Because yeah, I just have
questions. Seriously, did they give you a
discount if the animals are in mating season?
Yeah, probably. But yeah, there is.
They always have those signs like hanging from the light

(13:59):
poles or whatever. Maybe, maybe it was a very
lucrative business and I shut itdown.
I didn't. I don't think I'd notice.
Anyway, so proceed. So, yeah, you had to make, like,
a hike to get to the first animal.
And Taylor and I were determinedif we were going to leave early,
we were going to see at least one freaking animal.
But it felt like every 50 feet, we were pausing to give Penny

(14:22):
some water, spray her down with this fan thing.
And I was like, she's like, not talking.
And she's like, not making eye contact.
Is she, like, OK. And Taylor wanted to leave
before we even got out of the car.
He was like, it's too hot. Yeah, I definitely made him do
it. Yeah, I mean, you put all this
effort in, so at this point you're going to go see a damn
animal. Seriously.

(14:42):
And so, yeah, we hiked. Had to be a mile and a half to
this tiger. Taylor and I were both huffing
and puffing about to die. And I was like, Penny, look at
the tiger. She couldn't have cared less.
She didn't even look at it. She has not evolved any in terms
of zoos in the last month is what I'm hearing.
No, no, not at all. It's exactly what it was like

(15:04):
when we were with you. Both Taylor and I were like,
look at the tiger. It was right there.
And she didn't even turn her head toward the enclosure.
I was like, dude, we walked all the way over here so that you
could see a tiger. Then we walked back and we we
went back home. You.
Were like that so no. Did you buy her a tiger stuffed
animal or no? No, Taylor said.
No. Buy one on Amazon.

(15:25):
She'll never. Know I was sad I was like that
would be a hilarious story. Her favorite animal was a tiger.
Cuz just all do what we saw. But we did decide that we are
going to go back in the fall when it's sweatshirt weather and
it's comfy and not miserable. It was.
There you go. Miserable.
I just couldn't believe that we did all this to be there for 20

(15:47):
minutes. No so relatively and.
I was getting frustrated and tired of pushing this 60 LB
wagon around and of course so I was like, oh Taylor, will you
push for a little while? Don't tell me.
Taylor walks with the speed of someone that has to go to the
bathroom. There was a point where there
was 20 feet between Taylor and I.
He walks so fast in front of me.Goodness, no, I get it.

(16:09):
At that point, you guys were just exhausted and whatever,
it's hot. Yeah, it's not my thing.
Today we went up to my grandparents house and I was
sitting on the deck and I was like I, I love it up here.
So I used to live down in Farmington Hills when I was
little. I remember when they were
looking for houses, they were going to move and my grandpa was
retiring and they brought us up to this house up north.

(16:31):
And I remember being devastated that they were leaving their
house in Farmington Hills. And my grandpa's showing us all
the stuff and he's so excited and I'm walking around a
perpetual frown on my face. I'm so upset.
And I have grown to love this house.
And I was sitting up there and Iwas like, this is so much fun.
My aunt and my uncle have both Reece and Brooke.
They're paddle boarding. And what's the little boat where

(16:54):
you use your feet and it moves? A paddle boat, Paddle boat.
Paddle boat. Yeah, paddle boat.
And there. Boat where you paddle, What's it
called? They're doing that.
I'm sitting on the deck and talking to my grandpa with
Colton, and I guess it's so nice.
Why I don't want to do this moreoften And then, you know, we are
looking at the time and looking at all the stuff we have to pack

(17:15):
up. I'm like, This is why?
Because it's a full day of prep just to come up here to make
sure like everyone has the toilet seat cover and a change
of clothes or five. I have to think of every single
scenario. Bathing suits, lotion, whatever,
hats, all these different things, snacks in case my
grandpa has snacks that they wouldn't touch with the 10 foot
pole. All of these things.

(17:37):
Colton's awesome. Colton jumps on it when it's
time to go. He covers million bases.
When you go places, when you go to the zoo, when you go to Cedar
Point, when you go visit your grandpa.
It is exhausting. All of the hoops you have to
jump through. And now people ask me to do
things that are fun things and I'm like, I would rather die.
I'm going to be burnt out by Thursday.

(17:57):
You want me to come on Saturday?You're going to need to put me
in a facility so I can't possibly come visit.
Speaking of your grippy sock vacations, we were on our way
back from Traverse City this morning and I don't know what
was going on with Penny. Like she slept for 45 minutes,
so that's good. But after that, she just woke up
in a bad mood and she was whiny and cry the whole 2 1/2 hours.

(18:22):
We had left to drive and I was banging my head against the wall
and I was giving her toy after toy and she would throw them
over the side and then she'd cryand she would do it again and
again and again. And eventually Taylor was like,
Penelope, you are going to put your mother in a a grippy sock
facility. Sounds like a vacation.
I don't know what it was. Penny was obsessed with Taylor

(18:44):
all weekend, which is fantastic.Like, I love that.
Yeah. But if I was in the room, she
was whiny and cry. She didn't want me.
She wanted Taylor because if I took her, then she'd cry.
She wanted Taylor. But if I was in the room, she
would cry. And if I was out of the room,
like, she would be fine. But I can't just like, let
Taylor be solo dad all weekend, so I had to be around.

(19:05):
She just doesn't like me right now I guess.
Why, I wonder, is it a milk I? Don't, I don't know, she's
teething like crazy. I can literally see her teeth
right here. But they're not poked through.
All weekend I kept telling Taylor in the morning they're
going to be poked, poked through.
They're going to be poked through because I can see the
white, but they just weren't allweekend.
So I know she's miserable and she wants to be held and clingy,

(19:28):
but then when you're holding her, she thrashes and you cannot
hold her. We were at dinner on Saturday
night and I literally felt like I was dissociating.
Like I was sitting at the table holding her while Taylor was
eating. And then we were going to
switch. We got a high chair.
She just would not sit there without crying.
And I was holding her in my lap,staring at the wall, and she was

(19:51):
thrashing and would not sit still.
And I was like, I feel dead inside.
Like, yeah, numb. I was like, I don't, I don't
know what to do. I stood up with her and bounced
her. I tried to distract her by
waving at people outside becauseshe will loves doing that.
We listened to music. I showed her pictures of herself
on my phone, which she loves. And nothing was working.

(20:12):
So I was like, you know what? I'm just going to let you cry.
When Taylor gets done eating, hecan hold you and then Ollie.
And then we will leave as soon as we can.
It sucks because going out to eat, it's your exciting thing
and then when you get to the point where you're like, all
right, but now we just need to survive this so that we can
leave. It's like, that was the thing
you had to look forward to. Yep, that sucks.
I just I get it. I'm having like this wild mom

(20:36):
guilt this weekend because Taylor and I committed to going
on vacation. We were like, we have to do
things that we like to do and this is the age where she still
we can take to do things we liketo do.
We don't have to do things for babies yet because she can't
walk and you know, engage in a whole lot.
So we did things that we like todo and we just took her with us.

(20:57):
And I have been looking forward to this.
I was, I told Taylor I was like,I think I'm looking forward to
this vacation more so than any of our other ones, more so than
the Caribbean, more so than going to Florida.
I'm so excited when I love Traverse City.
It's my favorite replaced a vacation in the summer, but we
went wine tasting and we went golfing.

(21:19):
Our favorite resort to go golfing at all.
All of it was absolutely miserable.
We went golfing and by the 2nd hole I couldn't golf anymore.
And she was, she cried the wholetime.
Five hours. She was whiny and crying.
And I was like, I don't know what to do.
Like, I don't want to stop because we paid to go, but also

(21:40):
I just want to be able to do funthings.
And then I felt so guilty feeling that way because I'm
being selfish by going to do things that I like to do.
Clearly, she's not happy with it.
And I don't want to be like, I hate taking her to stuff.
I think she was just in a mood. And we chose to go on vacation
the weekend that once she started crawling.

(22:00):
Yeah, she started crawling this weekend.
That's such a bad time for you to tell me that.
That's so exciting. I know I was going to tell you
on Thursday. I know she's caught.
It's the cute. Yeah, yeah.
I'll send you a short clip. I couldn't get like one of the
longer moments on video, but I'll show you.
OK, so she could tell me the badstuff.
That's really exciting. She's started teething and she's

(22:22):
crawling, so I think she had just like a massive thing this
weekend. It was a really rough weekend
for everybody. She was not bad behind the night
and we went to wineries and she was good for the 1st 20 minutes
and then she started to get fussy and so we were trying to
do what we wanted to do really quickly.
We spent so much time in our Airbnb, Yeah, so it was fun, but

(22:46):
it was not. I was just kind of mourning the
trips that we used to have, you know?
Yeah, I know that at some point they're going to be more fun
because the kids are going to bebetter tempered and able to
interact. But I think this weekend I was
bummed out. And I know it's valid.
Everyone's going to be like, that's OK.
But like, you know, I still feellike crap about feeling this

(23:06):
way. No, I get that.
I get that. Also, it sucks because it's not
like you're vacationing once a month to plan for it.
You don't know when the next one's going to be.
So you're looking forward to this and it doesn't go the way
that you want it to. Do you feel like around the the
time that she learns a new scaleleading up to it, she's always
fussy and has a hard time? Because that's how it was with
my kids. And you never know until they

(23:28):
wake up 1 morning and they do the thing and you're like, OK
got it. This is what the last few weeks
of hell was for. God, you're crawling now.
Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, it is absolutely
incredible. I have been so incredibly
anxious about her not crawling because it's been later than
most babies. We've talked with the
pediatrician about it and we've ruled out some issues.

(23:48):
But yes, she started crawling. She did her first little crawl
on Thursday, and then she scooted all weekend, and then
when we got home today, she crawled across the floor.
So she's definitely crawling now.
Yeah. So I mean, I've been so anxious
about it and she's done it and I'm so happy.
And I don't want the mood that I'm in today to take away from
how excited I am about that. I just, you know, it happened

(24:11):
during a vacation that we were really excited about.
That didn't turn out the way that I was hoping.
I think I feel way more like this than Taylor does because he
he did today. We did talk about that this
weekend was very difficult. It was fun.
But Taylor even said, I don't know how to say this nicely, but
like, I'm kind of excited to go back to work.
I was like, I understand it was exhausting.

(24:32):
It was an exhausting weekend. Yeah, that's parenting in a
different location. Looking forward to that and then
not being how how you'd hope a vacation would go.
Yeah, On our way home from this dinner that I just discussed, I
texted my mom and I was like, doyou remember when we used to go
out to dinner as a family? And I had to be like a preteen

(24:56):
and we'd get done with dinner, right?
And we were all like to go back home.
Me and my younger brother, my dad and mom would order another
drink before we went. And Thomas and I would just
complain and moan and be mad andbe like why can't we go home and
help? My mom didn't think I was

(25:17):
kidding because I was not. I texted her and I was like I
just need to apologize for beingthat way.
You guys deserved that drink. Going out with us probably was
not fun and sorry for being thatway.
This was after having literally the hardest public outing I feel
like I'd had in a long time. I was like being a parent is so
freaking hard. Yeah, and you're like, I get it

(25:38):
now and I'm so sorry because youguys just wanted the extra time
out of the house. And as a child, I made it a
little more. Difficult.
It's my world and they were living in it.
Yeah, yeah. That's how it.
Feels. Yeah, it was difficult, but
either way, we had really good wine at these wineries.
We bought bottles to bring home with us.
It was it was pretty. It was still good.

(25:59):
There were good parts. Good, I'm.
Glad. Yeah.
All right. We are going to get into
mentally strong moms make mentally strong kids because we
believe that the more we take care of ourselves, the better we
can take care of our kids. So we hold each other
accountable to doing something for ourselves every week.
And this week, I took a morning to myself while we were on

(26:20):
vacation and I went to a bookstore that I really wanted
to go to. So we got to Traverse City on
Wednesday. And Thursday night after I put
Penny down to bed, Taylor wantedto go to the casino.
I would rather die than go to a casino, like, have fun.
And to be honest, I'm obsessed with the book that I'm reading

(26:40):
right now. Honestly, it might be my first
five star read ever. What book is that?
The Things We Leave Unfinished by Rebecca Yarrows Yes, you
bought that for me. I've got about 100 pages left,
and if it's as good as it is right now, I'm going to
recommend that you read it. It's just, it's so good.
As long as Becky doesn't F it upin the last few seriously pages
then it's going to be a 5. That's crazy.

(27:02):
Makes me very excited. Yes.
So on Thursday, Taylor went to the casino.
The next morning we put Penny down for her first nap.
We are going to a winery. Once she woke up, we had two
hours while she was napping and I was like, OK, I want to go
downtown and like, I really wantto go to a bookstore.
But also I was going to go to some other shops too.
I do not want to take Penny to abookstore.

(27:22):
And he would rather dive and go to a bookstore.
So I was like, I'm going to go while she naps.
And he was very cool with that one because I wouldn't be
nagging him to get ready and getaround.
So yeah, I went to a bookstore, bought a few new books.
I mean, it was a really decent sized bookstore for an
independent shop. I was very impressed.
It definitely gives like Barnes and Noble vibes, but on a

(27:44):
smaller scale. And it's independent, so it's
really nice. But I bought 2 books.
I'm going to show you I bought the chain.
Have you ever heard of this? I have heard, well, I've seen
it. OK so I haven't read this I've
only seen TikTok reviews on it but it's about a daughter who
was taken and for the mom to gether back she has to take another
kid. Yes, I've seen that on a Barnes

(28:06):
and Noble table recommendation. OK.
I was like, dude, that sounds crazy.
You and I are. Such different readers.
Yeah, and. Traumatizing.
Yeah, exactly. I love bad shit.
Anyway, very excited to read that and then the second one I
got is probably even worse called the Push.

(28:28):
Have you ever heard of this? Yeah, from Brandy Hankerby.
Yeah, she gave that A5, She saidit was great.
Everyone gives it A5. Yeah, I have seen all over
TikTok that it is incredible, but also you would describe it
like it's incredible, but I didn't like it.
Like it's so unnerving and uncomfortable and I'm so

(28:50):
excited. You would love Pretty Girls by
Karen Slaughter. I think I would too.
You should read that. You should read that.
Book. It's just so long.
Is it? Maybe I'll listen to it.
Yeah, I'm sure. You're sure.
It's pretty long. So those are the two books I
got. I'm very excited.
I have never, ever cried readinga book.
And that's my goal is to find a book that makes me cry or I.

(29:12):
Cried from The Wish by Nicholas Marks.
I cried from Remarkably bright creatures.
What do you cry about because it's so boring?
I don't. Remember the end?
No, that's rude. Yeah, yeah.
I've never cried at a book, I don't think.
I mean, I cried at a movie, but that's about it.
So yeah, that's my goal. I got to find something that
evokes the emotion. Godspeed, you psychopath.

(29:36):
OK. So my other idea thought
question for you, have you seen on TikTok the people that are
making like a wheel spin that picks their next book that
they're reading? So like they fill it out with
everything that's on their to beread list and then you push a
button and it's bins and the book is picked for you.
Have you ever seen that? No I have not seen that.

(29:56):
Sometimes when I watch TikTok I just think this is what
everybody sees but I've never seen that video.
It just goes to show you how fast the content on Tikak is.
No I've never seen that before but it sounds cool.
Wouldn't dare. I'll send you one so that you
understand what I'm talking about.
But I've considered doing that with like the books that I have
on my shelf. However, there are some books

(30:19):
that I'm really excited to read and I feel like if I read one
that I'm not super into, it's going to make me slow down on my
reading pace, right? I'm reading a lot of books right
now and I don't really want to get back to one a month.
Yeah, yeah. If I spun it and it got on one
that I wasn't super excited about, like not the exact one I
wanted it to, I would already know what I want it to land on.

(30:41):
If it didn't, I'd be like. Yeah, you know, spend, at least
the people that I have watched do it have like 150 books on
their TBR, so they need to get through them.
But are they not overthinkers? A lot of the books that I have
on my shelf I've bought at some point and was really excited
about, but before I got to them,I bought something else that I'm

(31:04):
even more excited about. And so they're just kind of on
the back burner. Yeah, same, right.
I know how that goes. I get that.
Yeah, so anyway, book shopping was melting for me.
Really quick. The TBR thing I would to do that
right now Mika, as I do have a few that I'm excited about, not
hundreds, a few. So I would do.
That yeah, I think I have six that I'm excited about, 6 books

(31:24):
that I'm excited about. Is yours truly one of them?
Yeah. Good.
I'm just like really not in the romancey mood right now so I'm
trying to find something that's not a typical thriller that I
would read and not a romance. I did buy a horror book that I

(31:46):
saw Colt and Red on Goodreads soI was going to actually text him
and ask him if I should read it.Well, book hidden pictures.
Oh yeah. I'll tell you.
I'll tell you what he's going totell you, which is that this is
not, this is a morning. This is not a night time book.
And then he fucked his picture. Gary.
Yeah. Yeah.
A grown 66 man was. Yeah.

(32:06):
I laughed. I thought it was hysterical.
And I roll my eyes at him more than I laugh at him.
And he makes a lot of jokes. If you know us, then you will
know that is true. But he showed me a picture to to
back up what he had just said. But he said it's not a nighttime
book. That's funny.
Yeah, does he not rate them on Goodreads and then I accept his
friend request? Were you mad at him at that

(32:27):
time? No.
Why did it do? I'm just, I'm going to look
it's. Like my own friends everywhere
else, you know. Let me look real quick.
He did not rate it. All he wants is to pop into this
podcast. So I'll I'll let him do it via
text. I'll ask him right now.
Does he really? Yeah, earlier he was standing
here. I was asking him to help me with
this light because, you know, it's so hard podcasting.

(32:50):
You have to turn on a light and then sit down and decide to like
it and then go back and adjust it.
So I was having him help me withit and then he was leaking jokes
and I was like, she's not on yet.
Colton, I can tell all these jokes are for Molly and he's
like, no, they're for you. And then a few minutes later he
popped over and he waved. I was like, she's still not on
yet. God that is so funny.

(33:14):
He does really want to be featured.
This is for the moms. Colton Taylor would never join
our podcast. No, made me cackle right now as
if he heard me because he's probably sitting in the living
room. He heard me and he was like,
this is my time. He broke through the door.
I texted him. I said tell me what you would
rate hidden pictures, he said. Three question mark.
Question mark, are you asking usor are you telling us, Colton,

(33:38):
that should be a three period? Let's see if he remembers The
funny thing he said about it being spooky.
By the way, we were up at my grandparents house and Reese was
catching fish off the dock and you know, blue gill after blue
gill after blue gill. He's wee little.
Thing probably the same one. Oh, it was sudden.
Like, I don't know what it was. I'm guessing it was like a teeny
tiny bass comes up out of the water and Colton's helping her

(33:59):
and she's excited but won't get too close to it.
Everyone asks her to take a photo.
Hands on the hips, cocks her head, smiles, takes a photo with
it. And Colton winks at me and I was
like, oh, that's sweet. He obviously is telling me that
he helped her. And then we get in the car, and
he tells me Bruce didn't catch that best me.
And I was like, you could never be a comedian.

(34:21):
You should have let her have that moment.
And then you should have, out ofsilence, announced that in this
car. And then it would have been
hysterical. But instead, you had to get a
little bit of credit when you'reon the dock.
Couldn't just let the moment go by without me.
Like, yeah, that was me. That should have been my
picture. Research my picture.

(34:50):
If you were you, me, or any Colton siblings, you know how
funny this is. Colton is for everyone else who
does not know him well. He is a middle child through and
through. Through and through.
That's so funny. I can't believe he did an elbow
Reese into the lake to get out of his picture.

(35:11):
Please, I know you're going to be tempted to cut this, leave it
in just so cold and can feel theblood to drain from his face
while he's listening to us. That's so funny.
Anyways, I don't remember I started telling a story other
than that I probably just wantedto tell it.
Oh, that's so funny. No, there was some sort of
connection I think I was trying to make clearly.

(35:33):
It was like, you know, not a good connection, but I'm glad
that all that happened anyway. So what did you do for yourself?
The things that I did for myselfthis week.
Colton has been travelling a lotfor work since Brooks been born,
basically. So from like what's the month

(35:55):
that comes before October, September?
From September to January he probably travelled more days
than he did not. Something that is also true when
he travels is that I feel like Ido better mentally when he's
coming home from work. I don't know, like something

(36:16):
subconsciously is happening where I'm like reprieve is
coming and I feel the crash fromthe day he's gone and I know I'm
getting no reprieve. I something up here, it's got to
be like a life sustaining thing because I can keep going.
I just feel like I can ride it out.
And that still was true this last week while he was

(36:38):
traveling. However, we were busy.
We had play date with her best friend, you know, dance went to
do all these different things. I did a whole big craft thing,
so I was busy with them. But midday I noticed my patients
were fried. So the thing I did for myself
was a midday mental health shower where I put Brooke down
for a nap and I put on a show for Reese.

(36:59):
I'll admit it, that's what I did.
I usually try to stay away from that.
This time, no, she asked for Lion Guard.
If you know anything about Lion Guard, you know that those
little have a really bad attitude didn't care and I went
and took everything showers and I loved it.
I didn't love it actually, but it did help.
Refresh me is not the word. It helped.

(37:19):
I needed that. Yeah.
And then the other thing that I did for myself, also something
that I'll give you information on and then you can decide where
you want to go from there, is Colton and I kind of talked
about another Disney trip and I decided that that was a green
light. And so I have been diving into
all the planning around that side.
Don't. I saw a TikTok from a civil

(37:41):
engineer who said, if you're somebody who really loves going
to Walt Disney World, but you don't give a about the character
meet and greets, you don't give A about the rides, but you still
are finding yourself craving that environment.
It is nothing more than incredible urban planning on
Disney's behalf. And dear God, is that true.
We got home from our vacation, Reese and I, and I remember

(38:04):
saying at nauseam, we could walkeverywhere.
I could walk to get a coffee. I could walk to go ABC and D and
I crave that. I hate the car.
I hate parenting in the car. I despise it.
I don't want to drive anywhere. I don't want to buckle anyone.
I don't want to have the fanciest, most beautiful
stroller that I use every singleday.

(38:26):
That's how I feel too. That's all I want, Yep.
So anyways, I started looking into it and I have a range of
dates, so look at your calendar.How many days are you going for?
I would like to go for at least six days, 4 park days, one
resort day. Something I haven't told you

(38:47):
before. You propose this podcast to me.
I was months into researching being a travel agent.
I was like it's so over saturated and I expected to make
$0.05 a month. I didn't care.
All I want to talk about is all the salad.
I haven't bought this. I have so much information.
I hyper focus on things. I get so much information and no

(39:10):
one else cares. Everyone's after 2 seconds of me
talking about it. Probably you right now thinking
that's awesome, let's move on. I was thinking this is exactly
how I have been since Taylor said create a business plan and
get the financials to start at your bookstore and let me know
what it's like. So I've been diving in.
No, I get it for sure. Yeah.

(39:30):
Anyways, this time I'm going between Caribbean beach and Port
Orleans French Quarter. I'm leaning towards Caribbean
Beach, but I do know that it is a huge resort.
But the pool looks fantastic. I've heard that banana Cabana is
great. I've heard the food's great so
I'm leaning towards that. But the sky liners gonna go
down, so I don't know what to do.

(39:52):
And I just want somebody to tellme honestly.
But I want you to tell me that Caribbean beach is the way to
go, because that's where I'm leaning.
I know nothing about anything that's talking about, so give me
I guess a quick description, pros and cons of both of these.
Well, Caribbean beach is Caribbean themed, Shocker and
French Quarter is New Orleans themed.

(40:12):
And so like part of animation isvery in your face theming.
Like it's all very Disney. It's very subtle at these other
resorts and they're like moderate resort Caribbean beach,
Caribbean themed. It's on the sky liner.
So there's pools, restaurants, you eat there at the resort.
You can, yeah. So there's there's multiple
pools, there's area for kids at both of them with water slides.

(40:35):
Caribbean beach is within walking distance to the Riviera,
which is a deluxe resort and that resort has awesome food as
well. And so that's another perf.
OK. Other perk of Caribbean beach,
you get on the sky liner and yougo to your destination.
If you're over at Pop Century orout of animation, you have to
get on the sky liner, get off atCaribbean Beach and then get

(40:58):
back in line to go to either Hollywood or Epcot.
But again, I have to go during acertain time period because it's
going to be down for refurbishment.
It is a cons huge resort so you can put in your preferences for
where you want to be located at.But I can certainly deny it if
they're too busy. Whatever.
French Quarter is much smaller. It's a smallest resort on Disney

(41:18):
property and it also has great food.
The only mode of transportation apart from a car because we
would be driving down. So how?
Our car is buses, which I'm finewith.
I love the bus system. I think it's efficient.
I don't understand why people knock it.
Or you can take a boat to DisneySprings.
If we go to Disney Springs, we'll just drive.
The weeks that you're looking at, the sky liner isn't working.

(41:40):
The sky liner is down from January 25th to the 30th I want
to say. So if we go before the 25th
it'll be fine? Yeah, it'll be yes.
Or if you go and you stay at SkyLiner Resort and it's down for
part of the time, you could justconsider not going to Epcot or
Hollywood Studios those days or you can drive to those places or
you can use a bus. So the sky liners not the end

(42:02):
all be all, it's just an added benefit.
OK. Does the largeness of Caribbean
beach really matter? What do you have to walk to the
sky liner? Is that why it's might be a
problem? Yeah, it can be like a 15 minute
walk to get places, which is fine once or twice, but with an
exhausted child it can end up being a lot.

(42:23):
Last year when we were going to Art of Animation, we were
considering doing The Little Mermaid rooms.
That's what we ended up booking.That's the farthest away.
It's a 10 minute walk from the buses and from where you check
in and the restaurant and all that stuff.
And I remember everyone being like, oh, don't do it, it's
going to be awful. And I remember being like a 10
minute walk, folks. That's what we're complaining

(42:43):
about. But at the end of a day where
you have walked 20,000 step, it's just that much more.
You're exhausted. It never bothered me, so I don't
think that it The Walking at Caribbean beach would bother me
so much, but. I mean, I don't see any pros for
the French Quarter, I mean. It has all the same pros, it's
just smaller. No, there's no skyline.

(43:05):
There's no sky liner, but I meanit's fine.
It's kind of cool Caribbean beach.
Well, all I did was to you up tosay that I only told you the
things that I really. I mean, I'm sorry, but if you
tell me even the theme Caribbeanversus New Orleans, I'm picking
Caribbean every single time. Yeah, they nail it on theming.

(43:26):
There's so many options and the thing about me is struggle to
make decisions because I always think that there's a better
option. Oh yeah, I don't.
I don't have that problem. I know, I, I remember one time
you told me. It haunts me.
You told me if I'm faced with a decision, I make the decision
because it is a hell of a lot more stress to stress about

(43:48):
making the decision than it is just to make it and move on with
your diet. And I, I know that and I hear
you in my ear every time, but I can't make the decision because
it. Doesn't work for me.
That's so funny. Doesn't work for me.
The other thing that I do is I get have two options and I say
like heads is Caribbean beach, tails is French Quarter and I

(44:13):
flip a coin and if it lands on the French Quarter and I'm upset
then I know that I wanted to do Caribbean beach.
Oh, that's good. That's sort of really mad.
I know. If I if it landed on one I would
be like but that's not but but that one has cons to it.
No, that's actually good. Yeah.
So I always do that. If I'm at a restaurant and I'm
between two dishes and I'm like,OK, I'm getting this one.

(44:35):
If after 2 minutes I'm like but I kind of want the other one,
then I'm going to get the other.One, OK, no, maybe Caribbean
beach is the the move. I just need the two areas that I
want. I either want Trinidad or I want
Aruba. Maybe people are going to tell
me that I need Jamaica. OK, so these are all within the
resort? Yeah, neighborhoods is what they
call like this resort Mali is sobig that there's an internal bus

(44:57):
system just to move. That's a highlight.
Why walk 15 minutes when there'sa bus?
Because. Because of children, Molly.
All right, I'm excited. I hope that Taylor's down to go.
I know he wants to go. I hope he's down too.
Anyways, long story, so freakinglong.

(45:18):
I started dabbling. And where we're going to stay
and what we're going to do and all the details around that one
Android. It gives me a whole lot of
dopamine. Cool.
That's it. I'm excited.
All right, we are going to get into our episode topic this
week. We are talking about mom rage
and our specific mom rage triggers.

(45:38):
So for those that are not familiar, I'm rage is
combination of hormones and I want to say like lack of
patience. I don't know.
It's it's the intense irrationalfrustration you get, for me at
least, at like the smallest things.
Yeah, it's a step after overwhelm that tip toes into

(46:01):
anger. Yeah, yeah.
It's like the things that after they happen, you're almost
embarrassed that you got so frustrated with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all of mine are embarrassing now that I'm,
like feeling calm. Yeah, when I'm calm, where I'm
trying to describe it to someonethat's not a mom, I'm like,
they're gonna laugh at me for why I'm so annoyed with this.

(46:21):
It's not that big of a deal and I also.
Throw out disclaimers. You're like I I get it.
Like I get this probably sounds silly but you're like but I was
literally seeing red so it's notactually silly.
Yeah, and I mean, I've seen a lot of other moms talk about
this idea, especially in the postpartum period when your
hormones are crazy, this idea that you just are angry all the

(46:45):
time or at little things, you get really irate.
And so I think other moms definitely will feel this on our
level, but the non moms might think we're a little ridiculous.
Are the non moms listening to this?
But they are they really like usbecause.
Yeah, I know because all we talkabout is mom stuff the whole
time. Also before we get into this I

(47:05):
want to just shout out Two Moms Too Much Coffee.
They listen to into the episode and said they loved it.
Then they said they have thoughts about this book.
Do I have any thoughts about it?That was in my opinion, the a
sincere reach out. A lot of times in social media,
people will reach out to like try to make a connection and you
can tell that it's just like a reach That was AI listened to

(47:26):
your episode. I can tell that I would value
your opinion that we have like minds or that you're very
educated in this topic. And then she reached out to you
wanting your suggestion on this.I thought it was such a nice
message. You and I have recently talked
about this. I hope to build a community of
moms through this, whether it's on the socials or through our
Spotify comments, whatever. I hope that we hear from other

(47:48):
moms. And I love that we've heard from
podcasts with other moms and they're so sweet.
And then they sent that message and I was just, this is the
start of what we were hoping to get out of this.
Oh yeah. Yeah, I loved that.
Made me feel good. So now I'm excited to read that
book and give them my thoughts. Yeah, I thought your, I read

(48:10):
your response and I was like, oh, I can tell Molly really
valued this because the way thatyou responded, you're like, I'm
going to read it and I'll let you know.
Yeah, it was fun. It was exciting.
So yeah, two moms. Too much coffee.
Listen, Listen and learn. Let's get into what makes us see
red. OK?
I was like going through my listand almost all of them have to

(48:31):
do with something related to eating and the mess that it
makes. So I am a big fan of Once Upon a
Farm pouches or like cerebelli pouches.
I'll give those to Penny either while I'm waiting for food to
cook or along with her meal. She's in a grabby phase since
she turned like 9 months. She's very grabby.

(48:52):
She needs to do everything herself and when she fights me
for this pouch, she slaps my hand and grabs at the pouch,
shoots out and goes everywhere whether it's on her on the
floor, on the coffee pot that's behind her, her high chair.
I just the last time this happened I just went.
I'm just so annoyed. Cleaning up after eating is hard

(49:13):
enough, but cleaning up puree onevery inch of the wall behind
her? You never clean it all up.
God forbid she's clean recently or something.
Dude I know post, what's your first one?
Make me feel less stupid. My first one is just any any any

(49:35):
issue in the car, any problem that is happening behind me.
I started talking about this early in the episode.
I hate, hate, hate, hate anything in the car.
If Brooke is having a meltdown in the car and I'm just trying
to get to the place we're going to go.
Reese for some reason can't hearher sisters having a meltdown
and was like, mom, can you put on animal story for kids?

(49:56):
And I'm like, do you think, do you think that if I press Siri
right now, Reese, do you think she could hear me?
No, because Brooke is having a tantrum about God knows what.
Okay, I purposefully wrote ones that were only Penny related,
right? I'm not going to use this to
talk about my pet peeves. This one's not necessarily about

(50:17):
Taylor. It just happens to happen with
Taylor because we're a family ofthree and it's very relevant to
what you just said. But whenever Penny is crying,
whining, screeching, doing repetitive loud noises, right,
it's almost like Taylor doesn't hear her.
And Taylor will just like continue to talk about normal
things, ask me questions, just have normal conversation.
And I'm so overstimulated that outfit and I like just zone out

(50:43):
and Taylor will be like Molly. I'm like what?
I can't interact with you right now.
I can barely put 2 words together.
All I can hear is Penny doing whatever she's doing.
And if you're asking me what we're having for dinner
tomorrow, I'm going to lose my effing mind.
I don't care. Yes.
That was our entire drive home from up north this weekend.

(51:04):
You want to talk about this whenPenny was a newborn, which is
that like if anybody's talking to when the baby, when the child
is having a meltdown, it's like,I can't understand why you would
think that I could listen to what you are saying right now
and give it, give it the attention it deserves.
I can't. Literally, my skin is crawling
right now. But in the car it's heightened

(51:27):
because the only solution to this is pull over onto the side
of the road and put us all in grave danger or continue to
drive to our destination. In which I cannot solve the
problem for the human who thinksthe world is ending right now.
But with that, add in a 5 year old who doesn't realize it's all
happening and it's like let's listen to a story about whales

(51:47):
right now. Can you hear it?
Oh, my God. So today, on our way home from
Traverse City, like I said, Penny was in rare form and she
was crying, screaming crocodile tears down her face the last 30
minutes of our drive. And Taylor decided that this was
the perfect time to announce every minute that we had left in

(52:11):
the car ride. So she's screaming and he'd be
like, we have 20 minutes left. And then he'd be like, we have
19 minutes left. We have 18 minutes left while
she's having a meltdown. I'm trying 20 of her toys to
distract her. I'm also trying to completely
block him out because. For the sake of your marriage.
For the sake of my grippy suck vacation, I will admit myself.

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I will tell them that I almost jumped out of a moving car.
You can always you always text me too and be like, I need your
help and I'm like I got you. I'll let them know that you are
nuts. I'll be like I talked to this
girl every single week and she is falling off the rail and met
her. She needs help.
Time to herself. Seriously.
Yes, I totally get the it's coming from both sides and

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you're just like, my brain's going to explode.
Yeah. Anything in that car, Anything
in the car so. The car.
Fuck that car. Can I have a snack?
I pick a party. God I love motherhood until I
get into the car with those kids.

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It can be a 5 minute drive and I'm like maybe cats were the way
to go. I don't know.
My second one, so we just figured out the straw cup, the
straw cups that I buy for her, if I dump them upside down, they
don't spill it. So when you suck through the
straw, you have to really like work at it to get any water out.
So she'll be like mauing on her straw for the long his time.

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And I'm like, go girl, you're really getting some water out.
And then she lets go of the straw, jabs it all down her
shirt. Like the liquid just falls out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My kids do that because they
think it's funny. Oh, that would make me even more
mad. At least it's because Penny
doesn't know what she's doing. She.
Just doesn't have a lip control yet.
Got it. Yeah, she just haven't figured

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it out. So like 50% of the time she
swallows it and it's great and the other 50% of the time her
shirt is. So nothing makes me more mad
than when I watch her and I'm like out of here and I'm like
yay Penny you're doing so good. She lets go and it's like boom,
like how are you kidding? And let me retract my clapping.
Yeah, just kidding. I'm gonna wait till the end next

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time. Yeah.
Yeah, and also like, now you have a wet shirt.
Tell me that's not uncomfortable.
Yeah, no kidding. I have to change your shirt for
the 400th time today. Seriously.
I hate doing laundry. No, I had to do OK other rant
while on vacation I still have to do laundry and dishes.
Like it's not vacation now that you have a kid right?

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Like when you're do you, I do. I'm not bringing 2 pairs of
clothes for every single day when we go on a week vacation.
I just do laundry. Yeah.
So anyway, I do laundry and dishes every day when I'm on
vacation during her naps and I'mlike, this is what I do at home.
I hate this. Might I propose bringing 2

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outfits for every day on vacation?
I would never do laundry on vacation.
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I should just not that's.
Just over packed. Like I don't.
They have small clothes. Here's what you do.
You go on to Amazon and type in packing cube so that you can
easily compact all of her clothes into this little thing

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and then shove in a corner. And then if you bring five more
outfits, whatever, all right, it's fine because it's all
compact and, you know, it doesn't feel like it takes up
that much space. OK, I mean, what the fuck?
Are you doing laundry? You should bring laundry
detergent then. I bring a lot of pods but also
most Airbnb supply them but either way I have to wash them
sometimes though or they'll stain because she had food all

(55:49):
over them. Shout.
I have to bring shout. I mean, I don't, I don't
casualty and vacation. She pooped in her car seat,
shocker, and I had to wash her little like car seat pad and I
didn't have my stain remover. And so she's got a big poop
stain on her car seat pad. I'm really hoping that tomorrow
if I use stain remover and wash it again, it will help.

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But I think because I've alreadywashed it once, it's kind of
there to stay. It's a badge of honor.
Some way to look at it? Seriously, it was the most
disgusting poop I've ever seen. She got it all over my arm.
It's disgusting. Oh, I hit you.
Again. She like I picked her up out of
her car seat and like was holding her and she was sitting
seated right on my arm, got it on my arm.
Disgusting. Hold her like she's a little

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like. I didn't.
Yes, I should have held her under the arms like this, but I
didn't realize she had pooped until I picked her up and put
her on my hip and there was poopon her car seat and I was like
it's too far to be kidding me. That's a big bummer.
Yeah. So who's gross?
OK, so yeah, dribbling water. What's your next?
One, this one's not related to the kids.
I had dogs before I had childrenand I was obsessed with them.

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We brought them everywhere we went and all of our little
hiking trips in in Oregon. And I still, I still care about
them, of course, deeply. How do I say this?
Everything about them is just nowadays.
Have you not seen those tik tokswhere they say what's the most
overstimulating thing about being a mom and they'll pan to

(57:15):
the dog? It's so true.
If you're overwhelmed easily, oreven not easily, you get
overwhelmed. Those dogs send you over the
ledge. Nothing.
We love them and we take good care of them, but nothing pisses
me off more than when I'm like, over, over, like my skin's
crawling. I'm so exhausted, sick of being
touched, all of it. And then I hear Tanner licking

(57:37):
his paws. I can't make any jokes that I
want to make because they're going to make me sound terrible,
but I'm like, I'm like. Do you want me to take those
paws? I love him, we've had him for 13
years, but I can't handle it anymore.
Anything he follows me around and just says.
Climb to deaf. Right, he's not blind.

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OK, he's deaf. Sorry.
Low IQ and deaf, but he's not blind, Taylor.
His little nails. He follows me everywhere because
the poor guy kid here. So he needs me to like sense out
danger forms. He follows me everywhere and his
little nails on the floor when the kids are sleeping.
Don't get a dog before you have kids.

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You don't know what you're made out of.
You don't know what you can handle.
I swear, don't do it. Anyways, that's it.
The nail clicking, I thought youwere gonna say like barking or
something, or the dog hair or, Idon't know, the fear of the dogs
knocking the kids down, walking down the stairs, something like
that. But no, it's the nail clicking
on the. All that stuff sucks, but you

(58:41):
vacuum more, it's annoying, whatever.
Or like we have a door driveway dinger thing, so if someone's
coming to our driveway, it alerts us I can unplug that and
then then everything. Just happened, doesn't know.
He doesn't know, right? He has no idea what's going on.
But the nail clicking I can't. My next one is when Penny throws

(59:02):
stuff off her changing table. Actually what I have AI have a
longer spiel for this. I would say diaper changes in
it's their current state. I never minded changing diapers.
They do not faze me. It it's fine.
Even messy ones I don't care it's no big deal.
But currently Penny is unruly. She is unhinged during diaper

(59:27):
changes. She will thrash.
Dear God, she's so much strongerthan she looks.
When I put her down, I take her diaper off.
I have wipes on the ready because I know she's going to
start moving around and I quick try to wipe her and I've got to
wipe her several times to get her all clean.
And her hands are going down andher feet are kicking around and
she's twisting and I'm like dearGod, do not get poop anywhere.

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It's not supposed to be OK. That's grievance #1 #2 is
sometimes to keep her from rolling.
I'll give her her hair brush or a toothbrush or something to
play with. Yeah, yeah.
She likes to throw that over theedge, but not over the edge
where I can get it, behind the changing table dresser thing
where I can't get it. And that's where things go to

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die behind the dresser and the wall between, God forbid.
She wants that thing back and then it's going to make your
time 10 times worse. Yep, and like I've said we just
had renovations done so her nursery is brand freaking new
beautiful. I have never been more proud of
a paint color in my entire life.It is gorgeous.

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I will be painting her nursery if we ever move the exact same
color. It is beautiful.
However, this little girl, she'll like get her feet on the
wall and there's like marks as if they're loyal marks on a
freshly painted wonderful wall. I don't know how to clean them
off. I don't use diaper cream.
I use Aquaphor and so it makes me feel like it's Aquaphor, but

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it's from her feet and I know that there's no Aquaphor on her
feet. So I don't know what it is, but
there's stains all over her freshly perfect wall and I don't
know how to get oil out of paint.
Paint over it. It's the only exactly.
I don't want to do that. But yeah, either way, what about
that throws me over the edge? All of those things.
Yeah, anytime you get something new and pristine or have

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something you're really proud ofand it's ruined by by them being
children, that's rude. I got it.
I got it. Yeah.
All right. What's your next one?
Colton just texted me at the endof his text, he said.
I loved hearing you laugh in there.
Wait until he realizes that I'm laughing.
We were laughing at his talking.Oh no, poor guys trying to be

(01:01:39):
nice. No, we were talking about you.
You in your bath? Look at my bass.
For Reese, it was impressive. For you, it's kind of small.
For sure this one I've said before, but when Brooks
overtired Brooks and two year old when she's overtired or
whatever her issue or ailment isthat moment and she tells me she

(01:02:02):
wants a particular food or drinkitem and I go to get that
particular. This is where the grippy sock
joke came from because she'll say I want an apple and I'm
like, OK, I'll go get you the apple.
And then I start my journey overto the fridge and she will
shriek at the top of her lungs. No apple or no fill in the
blank. That back and forth is if I was

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already feeling a little on edge, that back and forth is
enough to for me to look at Colton be like, I need to go.
I'm going to go sit in the closet by myself for a few
minutes. She's so tired.
She's, you know, she's only beenon the surface for two years.
I get it. She's new.
She's new here. I've been in the stores for 33
years, however, and I can't handle that.
It pisses me off. So my book anyways.

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Your turn. Speaking of Brooke though, that
thing that you sent me a few days ago about how she asks to
hear our theme song is literallythe best.
The best. That was so cute.
Yeah, she hums the tune of it almost.
And then she. Yeah, Yep, that's.

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Good. Yeah, I've gotten lots of
compliments on the music, and then Taylor always likes it,
too. I like that I can tell that he's
listening to our clips. If I'm rewatching one of our
clips, I'd turn it down really quick before it gets to the end
because I can't let Colton know that I'm watching us.
Can't have that. I don't watch our clips.
That was a joke. Yeah, seriously, we never watch
it. Sometimes I think we're funny.

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My last one is her pulling my hair.
I mean I think everybody every mom gets over stimulated by this
but I never wear my hair down anymore because like of this it
stresses me out to no end when Ipick her up and she just latches
on and pulls. Cannot.
Can not. Yes, if it's a deliberate grab
and pull, that's infuriating even.

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Even if they land and grab a fewstrands of your hair and it
wasn't intentional, it feels like a personal.
Yeah, it feels like you're trying to make me squeal.
No matter what's dangling in front of them, they want to
pull. So of course she wants to pull
it when it's in her way. Yep, I get that.
I've been there. But then I wear my hair up all

(01:04:13):
the time and I feel like it's not helping the like bald spots.
All right, this is newer. What's been happening lately,
which is sends me over the edge is Brooke will do something.
Brooke's my 2 year old, she'll do something and I will say no
Brooke don't do that. And Reece, my 5 year old will
take note of whatever it was just done and she'll do it and

(01:04:34):
smile about it. It's as infurious as it sounds.
Yep, Yep. And one time with.
Me. Not cool.
No, like, whose side are you on?What did I do to you?
It makes me super frustrated. And then I said bonus rage if
Reese laughs, and then it encourages Brooke to do it
again. And then I'm going back and

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forth. Both of them.
Like, if you're trying to see what I'm made out of, it's not
much right now. You guys won't win.
A swift breeze will knock me down.
Exactly right. That's exactly right.
I hate that, yeah. OK, shuts off and thank God for
those little blessings. I do feel like we have to say

(01:05:16):
out loud how much we love our kids because we did a lot of
orienting about them. I think I'll speak for myself.
I have more over stimulating things that happen between
Taylor and I, so petty's not theonly one that bugs me.
My girls don't bug me 1/4 as much as my husband does, you

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know, I do know. I was just complaining about
Tanner and like licking his paws.
I don't know if he's always donethis, but recently during meals
I have like tickle and I'm like,this is performative, isn't it?
You're doing this on purpose, aren't you?
He's chewing and smacking his gums while he chews.
His mouth's closed. He's being a gentleman.
But like something about the noise that he's making.

(01:05:58):
I'm like, how did your siblings not off he growing up?
But this is always been a shame.This is absolutely insufferful.
I don't know if that speaks to anew degree of stress that I'm
having lately or if he's just trying to see like let's watch
her crack, shall we? Anyways, tied into my last one,

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I just put when my 5 year old trying to explain something in
detail to the 2 year old and thetwo year old not being able to
understand it because how do I tell her that?
Like I I say, hey, she's little.She doesn't quite get it.
And then by the 5th reminder, I feel like I sound like I'm
saying she's stupid and why don't you realize that that's
not what I mean. I feel like I'm putting Brooke

(01:06:42):
down Therese, but I'm just like,she doesn't get it.
She doesn't understand. She's little, she doesn't have
life experiences, whatever. Her brain doesn't develop to the
degree of yours. But she gets really frustrated
when Brooke doesn't understand things she's trying to say.
Also, I'm the opposite under that, Colton thinks that Brooke
Huey says she's like, what's thephrase he uses?
Trolling her? I don't know, Reese.

(01:07:02):
That is hilarious. Reese will say something and
Brooke will just repeat her answer over and over again and
then Reese will like lose her. Lose her.
That is hilarious. That actually will be very funny
if that's true. Like to tell them the future.
Yeah, it's. Probably not, because.
It's this way at two. I I mean she can get a rise out

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of recent seconds and Brooke stays calm.
OK, then maybe, maybe. She's a psychopath.
I don't know, TBD. We'll see.
We will let you know. That is so funny.
Episode 1000. Brooke indeed is a psycho.
Yeah, yeah. Brooke's been evaluated.
We'll have everybody know that what you guys have been swimming

(01:07:45):
all along is true. That is.
So I don't think she's crazy. I think, 'cause she's funny.
I think, 'cause she's gonna havethick skin.
And I think that. She's gonna have an awesome
sense of humor. I'm gonna think so.
I don't think Reese is gonna think so.
Oh no, she will hate it. Reese will love it when they are
adults and no longer live in thesame house.
Yeah. That sounds like a long time

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