How a Campfire Call Sparked a Financial Movement
It started with a campfire.
Lucas and I were out camping when I made a phone call that would unknowingly change the course of our lives and the lives of thousands of families:“Bruce, want to start a podcast?”
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As we looked back over the years, a theme emerged. The conversations that mattered most weren’t about rates of return, product comparisons, or clever tax tricks.
That single conversation planted the seed for what is now 400 episodes of The Money Advantage Podcast—a platform that’s helped people understand how to take control of their financial lives through Infinite Banking and smart stewardship. We had no idea what it would become, but we knew we were called to do more than just manage money. We were building a mission.
And here we are today, looking back on eight years of podcasting, thousands of conversations, and one shared belief: You are your greatest financial asset.
How a Campfire Call Sparked a Financial MovementA Look Back: Why 400 Episodes MatterThe Power of Podcasting: Why We Started and What It’s DoneFinancial Influence Starts with CharacterJeff’s Story: It’s Not About Life Insurance—It’s About BankingWhy You’re Always Borrowing—Whether You Realize It or NotSimplicity Over Complexity: Becca’s InsightLucas’s Principle: Save Before You InvestBruce’s Wisdom: Behavior Beats DesignRachel’s Realization: It’s Not Just About the MoneyWhat This Episode Really Taught UsReady to Learn the Top Lessons About Wealth, Legacy, and Serving Families?Book A Strategy Call
A Look Back: Why 400 Episodes Matter
You’re constantly being sold financial products—mutual funds, IRAs, 401(k)s, high-yield savings accounts. But what if the real question isn’t “What should I invest in?” but “How do I control my money?”
That’s where Infinite Banking comes in.
In this blog (and podcast), Bruce and I are reflecting on the top lessons about wealth, legacy, and serving families that we’ve learned after 400 episodes. We’ll cover:
Why saving before investing matters more than flashy returns
What really makes Infinite Banking work (hint: it’s not just the policy)
The difference between debt and liability
How to build a family-centered financial system that creates freedom for generations
This isn’t just about strategies—it’s about empowering you to think differently, behave differently, and lead your family with clarity.
The Power of Podcasting: Why We Started and What It’s Done
We didn’t start podcasting to build a platform. We started to create a space for truth in finance—real conversations without the fluff. From day one, we set out to talk to you like a friend who’s learned the hard lessons, found a better way, and wants you to have access to it too.
Podcasting gave us the ability to educate, build trust, and invite people into the deeper work of financial stewardship—not just financial performance.
Financial Influence Starts with Character
Bruce hit the nail on the head: “High competence without high character is dangerous.”
It’s not enough to be an expert. You’ve got to care more about helping people than making a sale. That’s the standard we’ve held ourselves to—and what we believe every financial guide should strive for.
If you’re listening to someone online or in your life, ask yourself:Do they have both competence and character? Are they searching for truth or just selling a tactic?
Jeff’s Story: It’s Not About Life Insurance—It’s About Banking
When Jeff Jessee joined our team, we got more than a brilliant mind—we got someone who sees money like a game. And he’s right: life is a financial game, and banking is the rulebook.
Jeff was already successful in the traditional financial world. But after reading Becoming Your Own Banker—twice in one night—he saw the problem: most people focus on products instead of systems.
He said it best:
“If you don’t understand the problem, you’re just adding complexity. You’re not solving anything.”
Infinite Banking works because it addresses the real issue—money flowing out of your control. The solution? Store capital in a way that gives you access, use, and uninterrupted growth.
Why You’re Always Borrowing—Whether You Realize It or Not
This was a mind-bender for many listeners:
“You are always borrowing. The only question is, who are you borrowing from?”
If you pay cash, you’re borrowing from your own reserves and losing future interest. If you use the bank, you’re borrowing with strings attached. Either way, money has a cost. Infinite Banking gives you the choice to be your own source of capital—and recapture that cost.
When people say, “I don’t want to be in debt,” we challenge that thinking. A policy loan isn’t debt in the traditional sense. It’s a liability backed by an asset you own. It’s fully under your control. And it’s covered in the worst-case scenario.
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