Episode 114: A New Era

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Welcome. To the Moon Man for.
Fast. Does the moon actually possess
such strange powers? Pass in your seat belts, it's
going to be a bumpy nuts. Moonlight is thought to
transform some people into strange creatures to drive
others mad. Ladies and gentlemen, we're
certainly glad to be here tonight. 543210 Hey, guys, it's

(00:33):
Devin. Welcome back.
And this is sorry, I'm trying tofind my words here.
I'm this is weird. All right, I know you guys all
heard or a majority of you heardEddie's announcement, Eddie's
last mission log. And if you didn't hear Eddie

(00:57):
said goodbye and we were going to do, we were going to do
something different to, you know, really send them off.
But Eddie's not the kind of guy that brings attention to
himself. He, you know, you guys have
heard him all throughout the years.
He's a, he's a really, really humble guy.
And he didn't, he didn't feel appropriate to do like a send

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off episode or anything. So that's why there's just this
kind of abrupt cut. You know, you can see the new
cover and we're we're kind of ina new era here.
It's weird. It feels weird doing this, you
know, and not hearing him, you know, interrupt.
But I'm sitting here got the newhost here and I, I hope you all

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welcome me in welcoming this, this person here, because
there's been a lot of changes onthe show, things that we won't
really address, you know, movingforward.
But we've had people come, we'vehad people go, had people step
down and it's like we've come through a lot.
But I want to go back to what the show originally was.
I want to go back to basics here.

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And I think this person can really help me bring that out of
the show. They've always been there.
They've always seen you know what it is.
And even though they've always been in the background, they've
always had an an amazing voice of their own and a voice that
really like shine through. So you know them.
But this isn't my part. This isn't for me to say.

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So I'll just let, I'll let him speak for himself.
Take it away, man. Happy single in my old bitches.

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You fucking that bitch? Yeah, Eddie.
Eddie completely forgot about April Fools Day and he wanted to
pull an April Fools prank on theon all you guys making him
making it seem like he was goingto leave and he got fucked up.
He's going to do it for the 1st of May and then he fucked up his
schedule and then he started hisnew job.

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So things have been really fucked up for us.
And I was like, Eddie, we could still do your prank where you're
leaving, but the fans are going to hate you and.
Yeah, yeah. So you know what?
You you explain it, Eddie. Tell him.
Tell him. Give him that.
If you're confused. It's still Eddie.
Eddie's still the guest, Eddie. Eddie's still the host.
Yeah, go, go ahead, Eddie. Speak for yourself.

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I I don't want to I not anymore I.
Just got out. We're going to brush past.
Yeah, we're going to work. Get the I'll get this.
I'll get this. OK, Well then for the one time,
why don't you that? That that.
That that that was that was a signal I wanted you to.
Welcome to the Movement podcast.This is This is me and Devin.
It's our show. We're in a new era.

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The old Eddie died. This guy is a lot funnier.
Oh, I like that. I like that.
How about, how about for this new era, we're letting go of our
old selves? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So. But if we let go of our old
selves and it comes back, then it's meant to be I.
Don't know if that applies are. You sure?

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Like if that's a serial killer. Or like a former addict.
Or like, yeah, like what about me, right?
Like if I quit all my addictions, you know I've been
sober for a few weeks now, right?
If I if they come back, was it meant to be?
Yep, You're meant to be an addict.
You're meant to be a vapor forever.
You're meant to. You're meant to have an iron
lung. Not normal lungs.

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An iron. Lung that's wow, that that was
an eye opener there actually that that inspired me.
I'm not gonna, I'm never gonna go back to vapor.
Yeah, you're welcome, man. So yeah, welcome back,
everybody. Welcome back to the show.
Hey, I I've been mean to ask you.
You never really fully answered my question about what do you
think of my episode? I asked you, But then yeah, but

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I asked you but then fucking this is.
Perfect, cuz we can talk about it on the show.
Donnie interrupted you. Donnie Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, that's why I like. It's a good nickname.
It's a good nickname. I think we should change his
name to Donnie. Donnie Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think that fits. Yeah, He's talking about my
brother. If you're confused, if you're an
eagle eyed listener, you listen to every episode.

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You know his real name. If you don't, it doesn't fucking
matter. He doesn't matter right now.
I. Need something I'm fidget with,
do you have anything? I do.
You want my water? My water.
And that's my. Water.
That's yeah. What about?
What about your Airbus? That's the perfect fidget I'm.
Fidget with this. OK, Yeah, I don't have anything
there. That's fine.
That's fine. So couple things.

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Let's do some housekeeping real quick and then we'll get on to
the actual episode here. We're in a new era and like I
was hinting at in the, you know,intro, we've we've stopped
looking around. It's fine.
There's no. Housekeepers here.
I asked you a question. Oh yeah, we're gonna get to
that. But that's gonna.
Transition. That's gonna transition.
That's what you meant. But that's good because I
actually completely forgot you just asked me that.

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God. So there's item number one.
I think I've I've recently discovered that I might have
ADHD and I'm hoping to get a diagnosis and figure that part
of myself out. But that on top of a lot of
other stuff in my personal life,has led me to try to become
better human being. I won't go into the details of
it, but you're going to hear it leak out in the episodes moving

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forward. So I'm hoping to present myself
in a different manner. And Eddie's been kind of on the
same train with a lot of life changes, not really personality
wise, but I think he's trying toput more effort into the show.
And I think we both are. We both really want to go back
to what the show was originally and keep that magic that we had
where it's like just two guys hanging out talking about shit.

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And we are going to go back to guests.
We've already, we've done polls on our Instagram.
Thank you to everybody who participated.
We've talked to a lot of you guys on the side here.
And we've planned some future guests to come by the end of
summer. We're going to have at least two
or three guests. Hopefully before fall hits,
we'll get through all three of them.
We have three people lined up and two others waiting to join.

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So some returning wink, wink, nod, nod, nudge, nod, nod, nod,
nod. Don't fit there right?
No. Nudge Nudge 20 dollars $20.
No, it's wink wink nudge $20. 20Yeah.
Anyways, we got some returning guests, high demand returning
guests, some fan favorite returning guests, and then we

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got some new people coming and you know, we're going back to
the mission logs and we're trying to like, we're trying to
keep that original spirit here. We've been slacking because of
all the stuff going on in life. But with our focus, everything
should be in a much better spot.So let's push past all this
bullshit, move forward. Hopefully you guys like the

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cover. I don't know what it looks like
right now. Oh.
It looks like that. Yeah, it looks cool, right?
Yeah, look up. Yeah, wow.
Eddie, wait. Why are we looking up?
We're audio. We're audio.
I bet, I bet all five people looked up at the same time.
Yeah, there's. Some people going home.
Why am I looking up? Eddie?
It crashes. Please, if you're, if you're

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listening to us on the way to work, drive safe, Kyle.
I know you're probably listeningto us at work or something.
Drive your fucking rider safe. All right?
Your pilot, Jack. Anyways, hi, everybody.
Welcome back, Eddie. What?
Ask me your question again. What do you think of my my my
goodbye message prank? When I heard it, I teared up.

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I teared up because it was almost like, yeah, dead ass.
I'm not even trying to exaggerate for the show or
anything like that. This is just me and you.
The mic isn't here right now. Yeah, I what about the?
Chords. Are they here?
What the? Chords.
You know what? I'm not going to tell.
You no tell, no no no. You're ruining.
My thing I'm trying to be. Serious.
No, I'm OK. No, I'm over it.
It's. No, no, no.
Just tell. Just tell me.

(08:58):
OK, OK, since you asked. Yeah.
So I teared up because I know you're not actually leaving.
And I know we're not stopping the show anytime soon here, but
it was almost like a glimpse into the future.
And it hurt now. And I know, like, we've hinted
at this before, like, we know exactly when we're going to

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stop. And like, even though that's
still far away, the deadline gets closer every single day.
And I'm like, damn, like I don'twant to, I don't want to do this
until I'm 40 because I don't want to lose what the magic of
this show is. But it's scary to see the end,
you know, coming so quick because when we started, it was

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like, ah, that's far away. That's far away.
And then now it's like, well, it's not so far anymore, you
know? And that's kind of like, I guess
a hint to you guys. Like, even though me and Eddie
love doing this, like this isn'tthe thing we're going to do
forever. So at some point here, you know
where we are going to end the show and we're going to end it
on our terms. And then maybe if we get the

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itch again, the moon men would come back in some another shape
or form when we're all old and we have kids and shit.
That would be weird. That would be weird.
It'll be like that Regular Show final episode, yeah, where they
all leave the park and then theyall come back.
Like, that's, that's what this show is, right?
This is the the young adult version of Phineas and Ferb or

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any one of those shows, Drake and Josh, you know, like, it's
your little sitcom every week that you listen to.
And like, all the stories are the same and it's the same, but
it's like, different and it's familiar and it feels like home.
But then one of those days, the set clears off.
Yeah. The mics are just standing there
and the people aren't there anymore.
And it reminded me of that and it made me sad.

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And I was like, damn, bro. Like we did create something
special. Like it doesn't matter if we
blow up and become the next Joe Joe Rogan.
Like I think we created something special here.
And when that music started to kick in, I was like, oh fuck, I
was like that it that. Was my that was my favorite part
of the episode. I was like, it's just the stupid
song that we don't even own the rights to.

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And it became so entwined with what our show is that as soon as
it played it, like made me tear up.
So like, I have an idea for likegoodbye messages now for like
that final episode, because I know we played with it with that
our break episode, remember? Yeah.
And people were like, dude, thatwas a good episode.
Like the fade out was cool. But I had, I think for our

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final, final episode, it'll be like a goodbye, everybody and
then walk off and. We blast off, not walk off.
Blast off, sorry. And then if we, if we
incorporate some of our songs throughout the years where it
like transitions through all of our intros.
So from OG intro and then it transitions into the last one of

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the yeah, up to the last one. And then like it could even be a
visual episode. So then it starts flashing
through all the different issuesof our of our cover.
Oh, dude. And if you guys don't know, I
know we said it last time we changed the cover, but we
designed it to look like a comicbook so that it could be like
issues, like this is issue #1 issue #2 and even though we

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don't do seasons, it's supposed to loosely represent an arc and
era, a season. So that's why each one kind of
feels different from the last. And I like this last season.
I like this last arc, whatever we're going to call it, you
know? But it's time to it's time to
move forward, you know? So yeah, I liked your episode a

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lot, but fuck you, you're not the fan favorite host.
No, don't. Don't.
OK, Don't nod. Don't.
No, no, before we get on that. You're not the.
Fan viewer, hold on, hold on. Before we we get on that one.
You got it, man. I was cooking on that final
line. What was the final line again?
Because you texted me a screenshot of the fucking this

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all out for this prank he fucking wrote out I.
Wrote a script. He wrote out a script, Yeah.
And then he took a picture of the final lines of the script
and then put quotations on it and put like like it was a
quote. See.
See. He quoted himself and then he
took a screenshot and sent it tome.
But go ahead, give us the final.Line the the The final quote is

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I hope that the Moon Man podcastcontinues to broadcast across
the universe and every other universe.
That one was pretty cool. Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, we could incorporate that into our last, last episode,
something like that. Yeah.
Cuz I mean, the Internet's a permanent place, so even if we
delete the Spotify page, there'sgonna be versions of our show
out there forever now. Yeah, and then and.

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That's the cool thing. And then it's gonna be turned to
like a fan fiction where me and you fall in love and have a
family together and have a pony named Steven.
Speaking about ponies, so I justsaw some wild shit on Instagram
that I need to tell you about. OK, wild, wild.

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So I don't know if you ever heard the saying stay toxic, but
like in the dating community there, it's very toxic right
now, as you can imagine, since you're kind of, you stay outside
in your own lane. You don't really see it, but you
get glimpses of it through me. Used to.

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And dude, Oh my God, it's fucking toxic, right?
So I saw this, it was a text message thread.
And this guy is texting this girl and he goes, hey, what time
do you want me to pick you up? Where do you, you know what?
No, no, I'm not going to ask youquestions.
I'm just going to fucking tell you, all right?
Because you're not going to predict this.
So he's all, hey, what time do you want me to pick you up?

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The girl sends back a video and then underneath it, she's busy,
bro. And the video is her laying in
this guy's bed. And then the guy goes, hey man,
what's your name? And then he goes Ben.
And then he goes, I bet. And then he goes, LOL why?
And then he didn't answer him. So then he went to her social

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media page, his girlfriend's, and he found Ben.
Then he went to Ben's social media page and dug through all
3000 of this dude's followers, went through all his pictures,
everything. And Ben fucked up because Ben
was following his sister and Ben's sister is fine as fuck.

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And so he hit it up and he goes,yo, what the fuck did he say?
He goes yo, are you a magnetic force?
Because you're making parts of my body move without touching
them or some shit. Is a good.
One, it is a good one and that she was like, lol, who even is
this? And this is when I knew this man
was a savage because he didn't even bother trying to come up

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with responses. He just put that shit into AI.
So he gave that shit to the AI and the AI robot started rising
her up right And the AI is all say this and then he goes she's
all who even is this? And he's all the guy that you've
been waiting for your whole life.
And then she's like, lol, you think you're funny, huh?
And then she goes, you're kind of cute though.
I can't even lie. And then she goes, what's your

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snap? And then he goes, I only do text
messages or I only do numbers, sweetie.
And then she goes, fine. And then she gave him her
number. And so then the next image is
him texting Ben again through his girlfriend, right?
And it was a picture of Ben's little sister sucking his Dick.

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And then he goes. You recognize your sister's
forehead. The world is an evil place.
Damn the world was there a Part 2 cuz dude that that it was they
were cooking. I was getting interested you.
Know what I would have done is Ben.
What I. Would have found his mom.

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Oh my. Just kept it going until we run
out of people to fuck it. Then it's like what are you
doing bro? I'll take your ass out right
now. I bet I could Dick you down
better than you could Dick me down.
Like God? What?
That, that would be a crazy gameof chicken.
Holy shit. So while you're watching the the

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John Cena, you know, interviewing, he's slamming
people into the tables. Yeah, that's what I'm reading.
And I'm like, what the fuck? And I like, looked at the
comments and everybody was like,what the fuck?
And I was like, I don't know whothe guy is, but Ben fucked up,
bro. Ben, fuck.
Yeah, you could keep that chick,bro.
He didn't even care. He didn't go oh, like, oh, I

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could take you back. He was like, what's your name,
bro? That's how I knew he fucked up.
As soon as he's out, what's yourname, bro?
I was like, damn, don't tell him, don't tell him.
Stupid ass told him fucked up, fucked up.
And all the real players out there who listen to this were
instantly like, I wouldn't have told them my name.
I would have told them John or something.

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And if you thought that you needto go to therapy because you're
fucking toxic. And if you didn't think that be
smarter. Come on.
If you're going to lie, you got to you got to be on your toes
about that shit. Like everybody in this situation
is wrong but like crazy huh? I think the only person that has

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been wrong is a sister. She fell in love with the
douchebag. She's the one getting hurt.
I'll show you the video after this because she is actually UN
ironically bad as. Fuck why is Ben not a good
looking guy? I.
Don't know if Ben's a good looking guy.
It never shows Ben's face, but Ben's sister.
It's up there with Stacey's mom bro.
That's all I got to say. Ben's sister and Stacey's mom.

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So they have both have it going on.
They both got it going on so I'll go mow their lawn.
How does the lyrics? Go.
I don't know. I'm forgetty's.
Mom. Bring up a topic, Eddie.
I've been talking this whole time.
Hold on, hold on, Devin. You Really.
You? You fucking?
I drifted into that transition. No, you, like you got the jam.

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Just spread me, spread the jam all over my body and just push
me in there. What's next?
You want to come? You don't make me.
You want me to call you daddy orsome shit?
I mean, oh, I got to tell you about the blind circus, dude.
There's a lot of shit I have to tell you about.
We haven't been talking to me and Eddie because of his new
work schedule. We can't go into that.

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But I mean, it's going to come up at some point.
So Eddie's got a new job. Congratulations.
Every, everybody, everybody givehim a round of applause.
Yay, somebody throwing the children sound effect.
Is in the files. It should be in the files by me.
You could download it. Shit, throw another one in here.
Yay, yay. Yay, I have a topic but they're

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all dark and gruesome. Let's go.
Let's bounce around bro. I'm fine, fine.
I'll start with one that's not that dark.
Dude, I was hearing explosions like at like 4:00 AM the other
day. I thought the world.
I thought that the world, I thought the world was ending.
Like I I was expecting me to go out and the sky be on fire.
Eddie, Eddie, my car's outside. No, no, no, but yeah, but that's

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you got insurance. I OK, fine, OK.
But yeah, it sounded like bombs going off that way over there.
What the fuck? Like it, it was like for like a
good like 3 to 5 minutes. It was like an A repeated boom
every like. Did you ever figure out what it?

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Was No, I didn't. Huh.
And and. Like loud, like a Thunder crack
or just like. Like it sounded like Thunder,
like this. Like Thunder in the distance.
You know how that sounds like. What the fuck?
But it was like on a timer. I wonder what that was,
honestly. Maybe it was somebody breaking

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into somewhere. For three minutes to 5 minutes.
It can happen. It can happen, but yeah, yeah,
something going on in the world,Something's.
Is it ending? Is it world?
Ending you know what, buddy? Like I didn't, I don't, I don't

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know how to transition out of that one.
I'm going to be honest. That was a, That was a weird.
That was a weird topic. Yeah, now I'm, I'm putting the
fucking jam on you, bitch. And I know you like it.
I'm not. You know, I'm eating the jam.
I'm eating it off my own body. I you are, you slow whore.
Hey, man, I made a promise. Don't make me break that
promise. No, I'm not.
No, not that. Not that promise.
Not that promise. I made a promise about, you

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know, trying to be loyal and allthat.
That makes me sound bad. Fuck.
Then I gotta stop talking. Eddie, change it.
Hurry up, transition. Get out of here.
We're not. This isn't, this isn't a deep
episode. This is a heartfelt.
This is a light episode. We're just supposed to bullshit
this episode. We're not supposed to get deep.

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Dude, come. OK, OK, OK.
We've been doing this for like. Three years.
Yeah, I know. I still get.
Sorry, sorry, I'm yelling. Let me calm down.
I still get stage. My fault.
My fault. Stage fright?
Yeah. You mean launch fright?
AI. Should we talk about AI?
OK, I'm gonna bring up a yeah, yeah, I'm gonna tell you about
the blind circus, OK. And I shouldn't call it that

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because there's no circuses in my town and there hasn't been in
like a year. So like, that's just a cruel
joke that I shouldn't have said,but whatever.
So while I was at work, right, Ihappened to stop into a target
and it was over by the university.
Oh, I love this target. Me too.

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I love walking into this. Target me too, they have great
parking. I always cut 5 parking very
close to the door. You know they automatically do
that great parking. I actually don't know.
I don't. I don't know if that target ever
gets packed. Yeah, the.
Yeah, like, I've gone at night, I've gone in the middle of the
day, I've gone in the morning, I've gone on the weekend, I've

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gone during the week and it's never packed.
Yeah, it's so weird. Yeah, but our target.
Is always fucking packed. It's literally any time of the
day. You have to walk through the
seven wonders of the world in order to get to the door.
Fucking Kyle just called us and he's over there just hanging out
at fucking Target. Like what the fuck?

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That's like the One's good storewe have in our area.
That's. Our Louis Vuitton, that's.
I don't know what's going on with my throat recently paused,
but like there's a weird like like pain.

(24:01):
I'm like you wouldn't understandbecause you never vaped or
smoked, but like when you vape alot and like your your lungs
kind of hurt. It kind of feels like that in
the back of my throat and I'm wondering what it is.
I wonder if I inhaled something at work that I probably
shouldn't have. It's probably from.
I was inhaling a lot of degreaser like 2 weeks ago.

(24:26):
I'll be a fine, it's all right. So anyways, I was at this target
and you know what, I'll just sayit.
I don't care. We got somebody's got to
acknowledge it. Bad bitches galore.
I know we're not allowed to callthem bitches or whatever, but
there's, there's only one term. I shouldn't have said them.
That sounds bad. I'm fumbling left and right.
Don't call women bitches. People just just don't if you

(24:51):
unless you want to die. That's like the one where they
hate above all else. Call a woman a bitch and see how
long you know it takes before she slits your throat.
But I think it's only appropriate to call a woman a
bitch when you're calling her a bad bitch, you know?
I I agree. Yeah, exactly.
And there's there's a lot of badbitches over.
There it only makes sense. You know, and it's not even all

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university students either. Like they're genuinely fine ass
women, working women, women, women, real women who are
walking in. They're just fucking fine as
fuck for no reason. It's just a rich area and
everybody there's, you know, they're on their shit.
So I was there doing my own thing.
It doesn't matter what I was doing there.
I can't go into it. Secrets.

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And as I was doing my own thing,I looked over and I was shocked
because I saw a blind a blind woman fumbling around with her
walking stick or. Wait, OK.
To get it out, get it out, get it out.

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You got any jokes? Say your jokes now.
Why do you worry like that? What she was I she was fumbling
around because she was lost. OK, OK.
But go ahead, laugh you Dick. You're fucking laughing at
somebody. No, I don't.
Believe I'm laughed. I'm going.

(26:15):
To hell. I'm laughing because.
My God, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to laugh.
Stop. Stop.
I thought you meant like, but she's fumbling around like she's
trying to walk. Like that's human.
That, that, that, that, that shewas trying to like, see where

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she was. She was navigating.
Well, she can't see Eddie. She's using a walking stick.
Yeah. But that's what.
I thought, is this the scene stick?
What? What is that stick called?
I'm not trying to be inappropriate here.
Whatever. So she was using, I'm going to
call it her walking stick. You know, her seeing stick,
she's hitting stuff to try to see where stuff is, right.
But for those of you that for whatever reason that I've never

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been in a Target, I mean, you know how the lanes are.
They usually have like the something in the middle, like
these little chic little like lanes and like maybe you have
some people sampling food on theside.
Whatever they do, do that. Don't come at me.
No, I know they do I I recently saw that.
And like, it's, it's almost liketraffic lanes, like you got the

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one, like you stay to the right and everybody just moves
forward. And so I think she got turned
around and she didn't know like which lane she's in, so to
speak. And so I'm standing there in
like the refrigerator aisles andI look over because I can, I saw
her. I noticed her because she was
very pretty, even though, you know, all things considered.

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And she was like hitting stuff. And she walked over and she
accidentally hit this guy's kneewho was working on the coolers.
And she goes, oh, I'm sorry. She's like, is somebody there?
And he goes, yeah. And then she goes, I'm very
sorry. I don't mean to be rude.
She goes, I'm just lost. And she goes, could you point me
in the right direction? Like, I'm trying to find the
front of the store. And so I'm like watching this.

(28:07):
And I'm like not too far off, maybe like 4 feet off and I'm
just watching and this guy just like shake his shakes his head
and looks down back at his work and like blows her off and.
Tights that guy's and I was like.
What the fuck? And I looked over and there's
like another guy who's kind of like standing off to the side
and he's just standing there kind of observing.
And so I was like, fuck that. And I walked straight over to

(28:28):
her and I was like, hi, ma'am. And I like try to get, I didn't
wave. You didn't see that.
You didn't see that you didn't see that I didn't actually wave.
I did it. I waved to Eddie just now
because I'm getting into the story, but I didn't wave in
person. So I walked over and I was like,
hi, ma'am. I was like, if you can hear my

(28:49):
voice, come over here. And then she like follows me.
And I was like, the front of thestore is directly this way.
All you have to do is walk straight.
And then I was like, do you mindif I take your hand?
And then she goes, no. So I took her hand and I like
pointed her in the direction. Like I kind of like lined her up
and I was like, all right, go girl.
Just watching, watch straight. Because like, you know, I've, I

(29:14):
have a lot of friends or I've used to have a lot of friends
who had disabilities, various kinds of disabilities.
And I've known blind people in the past, and people with
disabilities, for the most part,in my own experience, usually
don't like when you make them feel so awkward about it, like
they have to deal with it. Just treat them like a person,
right? So I wasn't going to like, walk
her over there and like, make sure she got to the door, OK.

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I was like, hey, just walk straight.
I know you're completely capableof getting there by yourself
basically, right? So I was like, go get them,
girl. And so she fucking took off.
It was all hitting stuff with their stick.
And I was like, wow, look at hergo.
And I happened to be standing there with, I'll just call him
my friend, right? Yeah, So I'm talking to my
friend. I was like, do you see that?
I was like, I'm such a good guy.And he goes, you're an asshole.

(29:58):
So then we started laughing and just joking, right?
And we go back to our theme. Now, you can imagine the
surprise on my face when we turned around and we saw a blind
man standing in the aisle next to us.
And I was like, huh? I was like, you know, I don't

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typically see a lot of blind people in my day-to-day, you
know, happenings, you know, whenI'm running errands and stuff, I
just don't run into a lot of blind people.
I was like, so that's funny thatI ran into one today and then at
the exact same store, 5 minutes later I ran into a second one.
I was like, huh? And he didn't need help with
anything. He was just kind of going his

(30:42):
own way. Now my friend is an asshole
because he was, he wasn't wearing glasses.
The other girls wearing glasses.And so he was like, I don't
think that guy's blind. And I was like, I don't think
you're allowed to say that. And then he goes, I don't think
he's blind. He keeps looking at me.
And I was like, dude, shut the fuck up.
You're gonna get us thrown out. And he goes, he's not blind.

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Like he's staring at me like he wants to fight.
I was like, do not fight the blind man.
Let's keep going. It's like ghetto.
And we walk over to a whole different aisle.
And as we're walking, I look over and, son of a bitch,
there's a third one. And so then I was like, dude,
something's happening. There's got to be a fucking deal
going on. There's a discount happening

(31:24):
today. On the one on a walking station.
That's fucked up. My second one for your friends.
Oh God, Oh my God. I think that's the most

(31:48):
offensive. We've been on this show in a
very long time crying. Oh fuck.
So I was like, I was like, dude,I think there's a sale going on.
Like it's a blind people day. You get a discount and he goes,
no, there's they're multiplying and he goes, they're breeding.
And I was like, you can't say they're breeding.

(32:09):
And then he's all they're fucking breeding.
And I was like, he's all, they keep disappearing into the
aisles and coming out with more.And I was like, you're fucking
naked. And then like, this is fucked
up. But we were like, what?
They were kind of bumping aroundin the stuff and they're like
meeting each other the aisles and they're like hitting each

(32:30):
other's sticks. And they're all feels that you.
They're like, oh, OK, I'm like, what the fuck's going on?
And then like, we could see somemore in the distance.
And it was like, we're like observing wild animals.
So I was like, crikey, look, there's another one over there.
And like we're, you see them just like this is, I'm not
trying to be insulting, I'm justmaking a metaphor.

(32:50):
But it was like cows grazing andyou can see them in the
distance. And I was like, dude, I think
they are breeding. And so that we just completely
ignored. And what about our thing?
And then as we're leaving the store, so we're up at the front
and we're like by the registers or whatever.
And then they all like heard over to the front.
And so there's like a group of them and they're all, for

(33:11):
whatever reason, at self checkout.
Oh my. And I looked it up and I was
like, I don't know if they couldgo to self checkout.
I was like, I don't think that'sI don't think that's smart.
And I was like, what the hell isgoing on here?
Because now I was shocked by theone lady, the beautiful lady.
You know, I was shocked by her standing there, you know,

(33:33):
fumbling her way through the dark.
But then I saw the other guy. Did you say fumbling her way
through the dark? Yeah.
I was shocked at the second guy.I was taken aback by the third
guy. By the 4th guy, I was over it.
And I was like, what are you guys doing here?

(33:53):
Like, what the fuck is going on?And so I wanted to like, talk to
them, but I couldn't. Again, I can't go into
specifics, but I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
So I just thought it was fuckingwild.
And they're all over there, hurdled by, you know, self
checkout. I was like, how the fuck did
they get there? And I was wondering that I was
like, how who brought them here?I was like, I know they didn't

(34:16):
find their way here. So who brought up here?
Like, how did this many blind people organize a meet up this
big and beat up in public? Like this is a crazy.
Like I feel like I'm at a car show you.
Know they all knew that they were all blind.
Yeah, I wonder how many? Yeah.
And so as I'm wondering this, I see a big old white van pull up

(34:38):
a van bus, you know, kind of like the ones that the public
transportation uses, like those van buses.
And it pulls up. And I was like, oh, And it said,
you know, Mary Shelley's Home for the Deaf and Blind.
I was like, oh, OK, OK, that makes sense.

(35:01):
I was like, I'm totally going totell this on the podcast and go
to hell. Wow.
That's my blind circus story. Nice, but why'd you call it a
circus? So that's my blind people's
story. That was a good one.

(35:22):
That was, that was a good story,Devin.
It wasn't even supposed to be that long, but I I kind of
figured out a way to tell it andmake it a little bit funnier.
Yeah. And I was, I, I just thought
that was like, I thought that was cool as fuck.
Because those are the kind of things that able bodied people
don't really think about. You know, we, we, let's be
honest, most able bodied people that don't really have to deal

(35:43):
with any serious illnesses or disabilities, We don't really
concern ourselves with people who do.
And then when we do, it's usually out of like pity so that
we can feel good about ourselves.
And so like when I saw that, I was like, man, I, I think it's
fucked up that I never once questioned like how blind people
go about living their lives. Like how do they get groceries?

(36:05):
How do they get their Now? I know they had a fucking little
party and they brought everybodyover to Target for Blind People
day and they all got fucking discounts and.
You. You know what, I wonder?
I wonder how they know what product to buy.
You know, that's a good question, Eddie, because the the
products don't have Braille on. Them.
Yeah, they and then especially if the labels don't have Braille
on them. Also, like, did they organize

(36:27):
this with the store? Because none of them were like
supervised. That's why the the blind lady
ended up getting lost. So I was like, they just fucking
brought her to cows and just letthem go in the store.
Like hey, go nuts, this is your vacation field trip day.
Like what the fuck? They're all yeah guys go have
fun, pick up some clothes. You each get 100 bucks.

(36:47):
Like they don't even know what they're grabbing.
Yeah, they. Yeah.
Or unless they're like, all right.
Tim, Mary, you guys could go. It could go straight.
You're going to hit the close. Bobby, you're going left.
Those are the coolers. I bet they all got assigned
departments. I think so, but then like it.

(37:10):
This is fucked up, but I recently rewatched Cars the
movie, right? And as I was telling the story
in my head, they kind of reminded me of the tractor cows
from Cars. Like the way they're that's
fucked up. Maneuvering through the store.
I know it's fucked up. I know it's fucked up.
I know I shouldn't have said. That, you know, just like Kanye,

(37:32):
he shouldn't have said that thing about.
What the cousin? Yeah, you shouldn't have said
that there about the Moos. About the moo, for those of you
that don't know, Eddie calls cows moos.
It's it's an ongoing joke and I he's not allowed to stop.
He has to keep going until he's dead because every year you keep
it going it gets funnier becauselike did that 35 year old man

(37:56):
just say moos unironically and nobody in his friend group
reacted? It just becomes funny.
I was. That how pigs oinks.
No, I think then then it becomestoo much.
I just like the moos because it's unexpected.
Because like, you call every other animal what they're what
they are, and then for whatever reason, you just call the cows

(38:18):
the sound they make. And one of these days I'm going
to get a picture of you standingnext to a cow.
And no, your ex doesn't count. Cut that joke out.
OK, I'm cutting it out. Somebody cut it out.
Somebody out there? Hello.
Let me rephrase it. No, Dorothas don't count.

(38:39):
OK, what kind of Dorothas he like?
Emo Tortas. No, not, not not fucking women
tortas, you idiot. The food tortas.
I just like standard tortas, like I don't even get them that
often. So like I don't have a
preference. Like if they somebody hands me a
tortha, I'll eat it. Pause.
You don't take that out of context.

(39:01):
I don't want I don't want to have to start rejecting the
tortas in my Instagram. Like that's gonna be fucked.
Ironically, I don't think I actually.
I'm not gonna. Eddie Transit should hurry up
before I say something stupid. Tortas are the last people we
want to offend because they're the only good women left on this
earth. That's true.
Most of them. Most of them.
Because some of them are crazy. Yeah.

(39:24):
Some of them are not right in the head and for some reason
have too much confidence, but some of them, they're fucking
fabulous women, great personalities, yeah.
I agree. Shout out to the women in the
audience. By the way, I was thinking at
metrics and for the entire lifeline of our show, Eddie, we

(39:44):
have had a strong female fan base of 10 to 15% and it is
never dropped below 10%. So shout out to the women who
have been listening to the show from the get go and for whatever
reason, for some stupid fucking reason, keep listening to the
show. But also.
Shout out to the Bros, the guys that TuneIn every week.

(40:04):
Again, I don't know why you guysare here, but fuck it, maybe,
maybe you find us funny. If you do.
I mean, feel free to comment or something.
Let's try to get our engagement up right, Eddie.
Uh huh, You're not even listening.
I was trying to read the topic. Did you get one?
Did you find one? Sort of dude?
I have a bunch. I have a bunch, but they're not.

(40:25):
Like some of them I do need a research so we can't talk about
it like the Russian nuke attacks.
OK. And just to brush by it real
quick, Russia fired allegedly onaccident, some nuclear warheads
over to Ukraine and more specifically Chernobyl.

(40:48):
And for those of you that don't know, they recently did this
giant, not recently, but over the last 20 years they've been
building this $5.8 trillion structure that will cover the
most radioactive part of Chernobyl because it can leak
into the air and cause all kindsof issues, yadda yadda yadda.
So the they built this giant structure, cost billions of

(41:10):
dollars, took like 20 years to make.
They had to build it in a whole different city and transport it
over there on big ass fucking trucks that are like the size of
skyscrapers. And they literally put it in
there. And then not even like a couple
months later, fucking Russia destroyed it.
And they said that it was a mistake.

(41:32):
But because of that, tons of radioactive waste and gamma rays
and a bunch of other nuclear stuff that I won't go into so I
don't confuse you guys, is leaking out into the air and can
cause some serious side effects.And if it's proven to be
intentional, that goes against the Geneva Convention.

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And this happened at, I want to say the beginning of April, and
no major news outlets are talking about it.
And the only reason I found out about it was from some
underground reporters that happen to go viral on YouTube.
And so they were the ones talking about it.
And everybody in the comments was shocked because this is
happening and everybody's covering it up because then if

(42:15):
it's found that Russia is going against the Geneva Convention,
then it turns into an all out war.
And I think they're trying to avoid that at this point.
So they're trying to suppress how much information gets out so
that we don't have to go to war,because everything's really
unstable right now. Yeah.
Although it would be great for the economy.

(42:44):
So what was your topic? It's about AI I know you don't
want to talk about. No, no, no, we can talk about AI
now. We just can't talk about it
first thing. Yeah, OK, OK.
Cuz we, we were the ones that told everybody AI was going to
take over the world in the very first episode.
And when we talked about it, we talked more about like robots
killing people. But now it's just everywhere.

(43:08):
So we were right, AI took over. Yeah, and it's it's funny to say
that because there there's goingto be schools already getting
taught by AI. What the fuck?
So they, they did a study in, there's a there, the first
school I think was like in NorthCarolina and it was the worst
school district in America. They put this AI in and now

(43:32):
they're like top 15. Really.
Yeah. Hey I mean if it's working that
well I can understand. And now they're gonna bring one
over to Phoenix. They're gonna do like 5 more
cities and see how those students do, huh?
But. Well, Phoenix is the 5th largest
city in the United States. Yeah, and I have to keep
reminding myself that because itdoesn't feel like it.
It doesn't, but it's also because Arizona's dead last in.

(43:56):
Education. Yeah.
No way. Yeah, no wonder I feel so smart
here. Dude.
I'm probably like average, but because everybody here is so
dumb. No offense people.
I love all of you. Thank you for listening.
It probably makes. That's why I feel like Megamind
a lot of the time. And it the AI doesn't do like a

(44:18):
traditional type of teaching. Does like videos instructional?
I mean, cause we've seen. So the dead Internet theory, we
talked about that right briefly to recap for those of you that
don't know or just need a refresher, dead Internet theory
basically insinuates that 90% ofall the content that we consume
on the Internet is created by AI.

(44:40):
Even videos that don't seem likethey're created by AI.
That means articles, videos, TikToks, Instagram post Instagram,
you know, pages, Facebook pages,conversations with people.
Like 90% of all the content you interact with on the Internet is
AI, allegedly, according to thistheory, yeah.

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Now that being said, I'm sure we've all stumbled onto one of
those videos that has like a Greek God and you could tell
like it's AI, but then AAI voicepops up and the little text pops
up and it's talking about history and then we watch the
whole fucking thing, right? If it's doing content like that,
it becomes fun. Well, it it, it said that it

(45:21):
only does 2 hours of regular teaching like the the standard
math, science, reading, shit like that.
But for the rest of the day theyit focuses on public speaking,
on finance. And I think the last one was
like entrepreneurship. That's, that's cool.
I like that. I like that.
And so do I, because the the this education system is so

(45:47):
outdated that it it's now setting the new generation over
failure. You're right, it's it's
extremely outdated. And I know it's cool to riff on
school, especially when you're in school, but I think it's very
necessary. And that's what I mean, I like
that. I like that they're trying to
teach real world skills, but I think it'd be better if we had

(46:08):
teachers doing it, you know? No, because with this AI, it's
one-on-one. OK, then that is even better.
We can create a job market for way more teachers.
I mean, I know a lot of people aren't becoming teachers, but
let's say they change the entirestructure of the educational
system. That would probably inspire

(46:31):
people who might have wanted to teach or had a ambition to teach
to consider it, especially if they know they have job security
and they get to focus on a handful of students rather than
a whole group of students, right?
Yeah, but. Because then you know what
that's going to do. I know it sounds cool on paper.
They changed the whole school district and all that, yadda

(46:51):
yadda. Congratulations.
Good job AI, children sound effect now.
Good job AI. Yay, congratulations.
But now all the teachers in thatschool district are going to get
fucking shunned. They're going to get shit talk
to. They're going to get fired most
likely, or they're going to get delegated to menial tests and

(47:12):
get paid even worse to do absolutely nothing.
And now they can't even go home and be justified with what they
do. They can't feel satisfied with
their work. So their entire life was spent.
Hey, let me go teach and now robots like I could teach better
than you. And so the school district's
like, sorry, buddy, that. Sucks, it sucks, but it's just

(47:34):
it's a new era and it's either you, you keep up or you just get
left behind. Exactly.
But why? Why don't they create a system
where teachers can use AI tools to help them with the workload,
but it's still like teachers aredoing the teaching and it's like
a class of 5 instead of a class of 30?

(47:56):
And it has to come down to to funding.
I know that I'm not, I'm not trying to go into semantics
here. I'm just saying that would be
cool if we could get to a situation like.
That no, I don't think that there should be teacher people,
teachers anymore, really. Yeah.
You don't have any teachers in your experience that like stuck
with you after the fact or helped you?
Well, yeah, one out of the fucking 50 that I had over the

(48:19):
the school, but to be fair, there's a lot of a lot of shitty
teachers out. There, there are, there's.
More There's a lot. There's more shitty teachers
than good teachers. Yeah, and that's that's true
with everything. But we shouldn't make the good
teachers pay, because one good teacher is worth every single
one of those bad teachers. Yeah, and.

(48:41):
And I, I can't really personallyspeak to it because, you know, I
had amazing teachers, but I wouldn't say any single one of
them, you know, set me on a different.
Path. Yeah, no, none of my teachers
were life changing. But there are kids out there
who, let's say, come from a bad situation, right?
Need a teacher who completely changes their life, and because
of that one person, they end up going and succeeding in life

(49:04):
when they weren't originally supposed to.
Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, I know, but imagine that
with AI. Then it feels like inauthentic
almost. It does, but.
Oh, you did it because a robot told you to, like, have some
free will. That's my brother talking.
And you know what? That's a fairpoint.

(49:27):
Like, why would you do it? Because the robot told you to do
it. At that point, it's like, don't
even go to school. What's the robot going to do,
give you more homework? But if there's a person behind
it, then there's a little bit more of a emotional connection
because it sounds dumb, but we need people.
We need that emotional. Connection, yeah, we do.
It's just in this case, that's one thing.

(49:50):
AI, that's one thing I could getbehind.
AI is teaching because. It reminds me of the art
situation. Like to be fair, I know we use
AI art in some of our creations.We used it on our cover, but
that's more of like a meta joke 'cause we're always talking
about AI, right? But like, they reminds me of the
art thing because like they're genuinely artists now who had to

(50:13):
switch careers because AI can doeverything.
Photographers had to stop. There are some photographers who
are considering and who have hadto stop doing photography cause
one, now everybody's a photographer, or at least they
think they are. And two, AI can generate a
picture of you and your family that looks exactly how you

(50:34):
wanted to look in 30 seconds. So you don't even have to get
everybody together. And yeah, that's cool, that's
convenient, that's awesome. But like, now those people don't
get to do what they love. Well.
They could do it, it's just they're not going to get paid
for it. And that's.
And, and it does suck, but if you stop doing it because you're

(50:56):
not getting paid, then you weren't really passionate for
it. Or maybe you were, but
circumstances mean you can't do it the same.
Like with us, we're not getting paid for this and yet we still
do it. No, yeah, that's true.
That's a good point. But, but, but, but, but to be
fair, to be fair, let's have some perspective here.
Although neither of us are coming from very blessed

(51:17):
backgrounds, we're not coming from the hardest backgrounds
either. That's true.
Where we have very stable lives and so it gives us the
opportunity to do this. Yeah, but we also can't walk in
everybody's shoes. We're just I.
Don't know. It's just those are the things
that we should discuss because everybody for the most part is
going to hop on the Eddy train, right?

(51:38):
Oh, that's cool. Like, yeah, fuck teachers, let's
get rid of teachers. And then that becomes the
conversation. And if no one ever says, hey,
well, what about the teachers? Then before we could do anything
to stop it, we're going to turn around and look.
And now there's no more teachers.
And now we're letting a robot that's unsupervised just dictate
how people are going to come outnow.
Well, it's going to be supervised.

(51:59):
I'm, I'm pretty sure there's going to be teachers.
It's going to be like the like in Wally with the Captain and
the and the and the robot. Bro Wally scares the shit out
me. Too.
Me too, but it's going to be something like that, I think.
And you know why? Because I know everyone says
hey, we're getting closer to Wally every day, yadda yadda.
And it's true. But like, look at it, look at

(52:21):
the way like we talk about it all the time.
Look at the way people are on their phones.
I, I genuinely had a really sad moment yesterday.
I actually had a mental breakdown yesterday, but we're
not going to get into that on the show.
And there was a moment yesterdaythat just felt more surreal than

(52:44):
it actually was because of everything that was happening to
me. And I was staring at this
couple, this beautiful young couple at this restaurant that I
was at. And you know, the girl was
absolutely gorgeous. The guy was handsome.
They're both like young and theylook like they're doing well for
themselves. But it just, something about
their dynamic just hurt because they weren't talking to each

(53:07):
other whatsoever. And not only that, they were
like a perfect image of the state of the world, you know,
young, beautiful, set up to do whatever they want in life and
completely stuck in all of the wrong bullshit.
The guy sitting there eating allhis food and his girlfriend
doesn't have any food next to him.
And I don't know the circumstances.

(53:28):
Maybe she wasn't hungry, but shedidn't have no water next to
her, She didn't have a drink, she didn't have anything, She
didn't have a plate. And he's sitting there eating
all this food and they're both just staring at their phones and
she looks miserable. He looks bored and like he
doesn't want to be there. And they're just sitting there
and they're just like, to me, I was like, they don't realize

(53:48):
what a blessing it is to just besitting here and fucking being
able to taste this food and justbe here.
Like, yeah, this is a shitty restaurant in a shitty part of
town, don't get me wrong. But like, you guys are young.
You got nothing wrong with you. You know, you're in a
relationship with each other. You're both beautiful.
Like, how come you're sitting here so miserable?

(54:09):
I was like, what the hell? And why are you guys so glued to
your phones? And then I looked around.
Everyone's glued to their phones.
And it just feels like the fucking Wally thing, you know,
Facetiming each other when you're like down the street from
each other, you know, texting each other or sending each other
memes on a group chat when you're sitting right next to
each other. It's like what the fuck?

(54:33):
It's it's. Like why are we so absorbed with
consumption? Because all we do now is consume
food and content and fucking alcohol and drugs and whatever.
Like that's all we do is consumeand it's just, it's sad.
It That's always been human nature, though, and it's.

(54:53):
Just always been, I think it gotexacerbated with, you know,
modern eras. Like I'd say from the like maybe
20s upward, it just became aboutconsumption.
No, it's always been about consumption.
Always. It's just it's it was a.
I love you, but I'm not going tolet you sit here and tell me
some blanket ass statement like it's always been about

(55:14):
consumption when I know damn well in the medieval ages they
weren't worried about consumption in the same way
we're worried about it now. They did it to fucking survive.
They were worried about just surviving.
It's not always been about consumption.
A lot of times life was just about living and nowadays we
don't live, we consume. OK, when?
When have we ever lived? I don't think there's ever been

(55:38):
a moment where humanity collect hold on.
Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on, hold on. You get really heated, man.
Take a breath. All right?
You good. Are.
You are you going to continue toI'm.
Just making sure. I don't think there's ever been
a moment where humanity has collectively been able to go.
It's just about living. But I know there have been
plenty of times in different regions, different areas

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throughout the years where we'vegotten close.
And it seems like nowadays people aren't really concerned
with trying to get close anymore.
The thing they're really concerned about is, are MGK and
Megan Fox still together? Oh, this is the new meme.
Can 100 men beat up one gorilla?You know, and I think we can

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collectively, if we all work together.
I don't know what those whole waves thing is, but why don't we
all just jump in at once, you know?
Anyways, we'll get to that another time.
We're just worried about some ofthe dumbest shit sometimes,
right? And sometimes focusing on the
dumb shit is the point. So don't get me wrong, it's
really, really, really nuanced. But when you look around, like

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when we go out in public next time, I'll point it out to you.
Everybody's like this. No, yeah, I've noticed it.
I notice it too, especially whenI go out to eat by myself.
I I I see it. And now it is the state of the
world. You're completely right about
that. But is do you think there's

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anything wrong with it? Do you think there was something
better about us being a lot morein the moment, you know, in the
past, or do you think it's better now?
And you can be honest? I mean, if you genuinely prefer
because I know you're, you're more introverted, you're not as
social. So if this is like a reality

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where you can say like, yeah, I think I'm happy you're here,
that's fine. I just want your thought on it.
I think it's both. It's better now, but it it was
also good to have that human connection.

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And that's what I mean, it's like, yeah, AI is amazing.
Don't get me wrong, I despise AIas a concept and it scares me as
a weapon and as a tool. But I can appreciate that there
are things about it that are really cool, really unique and
really interesting, right? What I don't like is how it

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separates people because as I'm getting older, as I'm becoming,
you know, more in tune with myself in the world and figuring
out what I want from life, I look around and I realize that I
really do enjoy having connections with people.
And you don't really realize that until you have some of
those lonely, lonely fucking days where you're just like,

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damn, I want somebody to talk toand you don't have that.
And unironically, I think we're getting closer and closer to
that with the things that are supposed to be connecting us.
But I feel like you you're. I'm looking at it from a
pessimistic point of view. Don't.
No, no, no. But I, I feel like every time
you look, you're always what, what's that thing you say you

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attract? Negativity.
No no no. You attract what you're scared
of or something like that. I think I get what you're trying
to say. Like, you're going to see what
you want and if you're going to,if you come at it from a
negative perspective, you're going to see the negative, but
if you look at it from the positive, you're going to see
the. Positive, Yeah.
Because like, let's say, let's say 5 minutes before you walked

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into that restaurant, they were fucking, that couple was
laughing their ass off. And the moment you walked in and
sat down a second after that, you saw that they were miserable
like you did you, you really don't know what happened 5
minutes before you walked into that restaurant.
I mean, and even after you left,let's say they were still there.

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That's a good point. That's a fairpoint.
But to to counteract it a littlebit, I watch them walking and I
watch them sit down. I I know OK before.
I I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.
My thing is, yeah, it could havebeen like they got in a fight or
something. Now they're not talking to each
other and he's like, he's all I'm not going to buy you fucking
food or whatever, right? Like I could have, could have
just caught them out of inopportune time.

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But that's why I made the point of mentioning everybody in the
restaurant. Was just staring at their phone
like their fucking feet changed,you know, like if they're
following the same 500 people. Like.
Why are you? Why are you checking your phone
that religiously you're not thatimportant.

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You're not a fucking celebrity. Nobody's messaging you this
much. I think.
And even if they are like, you're hanging out with people,
right? Like, I know we do it and we're
bad at it, especially like on the show sometimes.
But for the most part, when I'm with you, I'm not really on my
phone, right? And I'm not like texting other
people while I talk to you. I mean, don't get me wrong,
there are times I know I've doneit, but that's specific

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instances where I'm like, hey, hold on, Eddie, I don't mean to
be rude. Let me answer this person.
Don't talk to me. I'm not going to hear you,
right? For the most part in public.
Like if you really, really people watch, it's not like
they're taking a second to be ontheir phone and then they're
going back to the conversation. They're not even having
conversations. That's why you go to restaurants
now and it's so fucking quiet. No.

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And, and it's that that goes back to the point I made.
You attract what, what, what, what is it?
You attract what you believe or something like that.
I I don't know what you're trying to I don't know what.
Phrase. It's because it's.
Because you attract. OK, so let me give you my
example. Wait, hold on, what's the what's
the phrase you keep bringing up that you attract?

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You attract what? What you want, what you seek,
what you think about. I think it's you track what you
fear or something I. Haven't heard that.
No, I I probably have have the saying wrong, but what are the
case? OK, when I notice this about

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myself, I when when I go out to eat by myself in a restaurant, I
sit down. I don't use my phone I'm just
there and I went to Culver's like 2 weeks ago and the the
whole restaurant was packed and all I heard was laughter.
I saw one person on their phone.I saw an old couple, maybe 80s

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sitting across from me having a having a conversation.
The workers were having a fucking jolly old time working
with each other, so I don't see what you see.
I'm not saying this is the the standard.
No, I say like, you're going to see this everywhere because
don't get me wrong, you're not. You will see people interacting.

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That's why it's much more noticeable now because there are
still glimpses of, I guess the past.
And I saw it today, you know, I saw it today, like glimpses of
that old world because I went tothe mall today to meet up with
some friends and it was fucking packed.
I know they said malls are dying.
I couldn't find parking. Like I drove around looking for

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parking. For 10, why do you say that our
malls are always fucking? Packed, dude, it was packed.
But like, as I was walking around, like, yeah, I did see a
lot of people on their phones, but I saw more people not on
their phones, and it genuinely made me happy, right?
Yeah, no. But but there is a growing
amount of people who are on their phones.
And me as someone through my line of work who has to be out

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in the world every single day like this is just for my own
personal experience. There are days where I walk into
a restaurant and it's lively andit's, you know, fun and you want
to be there because it feels like a good atmosphere.
And there are other times, much more common, where it's the
exact opposite. No, I, I I'm just.
Motherfucker, you can't say no because this is my perspective.

(01:03:38):
You can't be like, no, that don't happen.
You didn't. Let me finish.
You cut me off. I didn't cut you.
Off yes I did. I was like, no, coming from my
experiences, I'm experience you.Still can't lead with no oh
though. You you see how that sounds,
right? OK, coming from my experiences.
OK. Thank you.
Go ahead. I'm living your life and you're

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living my life. Well, you know, it's funny is
when I go out by myself too, I don't, I don't use my phone.
And that's why I was like, huh, I thought you would have.
No, I my phone's boring. I'm gonna be seeing the same
fucking tweets every time. Thank you.
I just said that somebody heard that.
I I only use my phone here when I'm at home by myself.

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Me too, honestly. I mean, there are times where,
like, people are just bugging me, but for the most part, yeah,
I'm like scrolling through Instagram and shit at home.
Yeah, but it's it's weird because like I said, you're
living my life. I'm living your life.
It's weird. What do you mean?
Like today we or whenever you experienced that where everybody

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was on their phone. I've never experienced that.
Really. You never I, I, I probably
experienced it once and forgot about it.
But for the most part, every time I walk into a restaurant by
myself, every time I go into a store by myself, people are
always talking, laughing. There's a couple people on their
phone, but they're just looking at their phone to look at their

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phone. I don't know why I'm so hyper
fixated on it too. Because we had this discussion
too many times, but for whateverreason, I'm like very aware to
those kinds of things. And so like even when I'm in a
group of people, I don't always bring it up.
I almost never bring it up when I'm actually out in public, but
I notice it literally every timeI go out.
And there are days where it justfeels like a is taking over.

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And there are days where it feels like our phones have one
and we've were disconnected. And I see a lot, you know, with
my family too. No disrespect to my family, you
know, but and they can get a little bit of a pass because you
see your family all the time. So you're not going to have
things to say to your family allthe time.
But there have been genuine moments where we're all just

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trying to experience things together as family.
Have a little moment and then like we look over and two people
are just like this on their phones.
And we're like, hey, and we likecall them over.
Like what are you doing? Like what?
Come on, be in the moment. I'm guilty of that because when
my brother is comes over and andwe're all together as a family,
I'm on my phone. But I do that as a safety

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mechanism because I know the moment I give them attention,
they're going to start throwing,shooting bullets at me.
I I, yeah, I know, I know. We don't have to go into that.
I know your situation and like everybody's situation is
different. That's why I'm again, I'm like,
you can't go based off of everybody or every situation
because that is a handy trick. Now, you know, if you, if you're

(01:06:32):
in a situation where you don't want to talk to people, you have
the best excuse right here in your fucking pocket, you know,
to just be like, oh, hold on, I got to check some emails or
whatever, right? So, yeah, I mean, there's,
there's definitely benefits. I'm just, I guess it just makes
me sad a little bit sometimes when I look at it from that
perspective, because I want to, I eventually want to have a

(01:06:54):
family one day and I want to be able to bring them into a world
that is lively and that feels exciting to live in.
And that is full of possibilities, right?
So to speak. Like that's the world everybody
wants to live in. And I don't want to bring them
into the world. And everybody's just like a
zombie and it sucks. And it's like, I'm sorry, guys.

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I didn't mean I didn't think it was going to be like this.
It was cool when I was growing up, you know, because then that
sucks. And then I'm like, well, I can
try to do something to stop it with my little tiny voice and my
little shitty show, but I don't know, I'm always kind of hyper
fixated on that. And I'm just kind of.
And I think that's why you see alot more because you're

(01:07:36):
hyperfixating on it and you're attracting that a lot more and
more. I'm going to say I'm attracting
it because I attracting it is when you're hyperfixated to the
point that that's all you talk about and then like you're
expecting to see it everywhere you go.
I don't, I don't actively think I don't pull up to like a
Walmart going. I wonder if people are going to
be on their phones at the Walmart.
I just go to Walmart and then I get there and I'm walking in and

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I'm minding my own business and then I happen to look around and
I'm like up there it is. And there's like 10 people in a
group just on their phones and I'm like, see another example.
And then I just walk out and I go about my day.
That's kind of how I see it, like when I doing.
Right. And how you how whenever I tell
you, oh, tomorrow's going to be a long day, I'm going to do

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another 15 hour day, you tell me.
Don't, don't, don't. What's the word?
What's the word? Don't jinx it.
I guess don't jinx it, don't jinx it.
I'm in a way attracting that 15 hour a day and it's not because

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I'm hyper fixing it. I'm just saying it's going to be
a long day. Well, there is a, there is a,
there is a way that you talk about things that happen in your
life, especially upcoming thingsthat feels like you're
attracting it versus how I'm talking about this.
So if I may, can I paint the picture real quick?

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OK. So when I talk about this, for
example, right, you're trying tomake the point of I'm attracting
it like I wanna see this stuff and I don't just like you don't
wanna work a 15 hour shift. But look at the way we talk
about it. So when I say it, I'm like,
these are things that I'm noticing out in the world every
time I go here. This is what I noticed.
But I'm not actively looking for.
I'm not getting down at these targets and Walmarts or I'm not

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going to these fucking in and outs and staring and hoping that
I see people on their phone because why the fuck would I?
I don't give a shit that much the if everyone's on their
phone. I mean, like I can't run around
stealing phones from people going stop, wake up.
You're in a simulation. Like fuck it, whatever.
Let them be MPC. It's fine.
But I will see it, I will noticeit and I will call it out

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because I don't give a shit, right?
And I've even said it in public and I don't do it with you
because I know you don't like when I'm too crazy in public and
bring attention towards us. But I'll be like, man, look at
everybody on their phones. And then people like look around
at me and I'm like, what? I mean, you are right.
And that's how I kind of go about it.
Now your example with the whole 15 hour work days, right?

(01:10:13):
You talk about it like an inevitability and to an extent I
do too with the phone things, but I'm never talking about it
in a future sense. I'm talking about it more in the
present, present sense and past tense sense.
That is so hard to say. Excuse me?

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So you talk about it like I'm going to have a 15 hour day
tomorrow and I'm like, don't saythat because you're jinxing it.
You're trying to attract the 15 hour day and you're like, no,
I'm not. I don't want to work a 15 hour
day, but I'm going to have a 15 hour day.
I never go. I'm going to go to this Walmart
and see everyone on their phones.
I never go. I'm going to go to this
restaurant and I'm going to see a bunch of angry couples.

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I go, oh, I can't wait to go to this restaurant.
And that's the difference. So when you, it's how you talk
about it in the future sense. So if you're talking about it in
the future, like you know what'sgoing to happen, the law of
attraction states that because you're believing it's going to
happen, the universe has to bendto your will.

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And so it's going to end up happening because you truly
believe you're going to have a 15 hour day.
Like there's nothing I could tell you like to convince you
that you're not. And there's nothing anybody can
tell you except your boss. Like he's not gonna reach out to
you and be like, hey Eddie, it'sgonna be a 15 hour day or it's
gonna be a 8 hour day cuz they don't do that, right?
So you have no way of actually confirming whether or not you're

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gonna have a 15 hour day. So in your head, and I know it's
your belief system, right? Expect the worst and hope for
the best, which is I guess, yeah, it's a healthy mindset to
have. But because of that, you, I've
seen where you take it to an extreme.
And so you always expect the worst thing to happen.
You always expect the most negative outcome.
You always expect it so that you're not disappointed and so

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that you're not hurt and so thatit you can deal with it, right?
But because of that and because you expect it so much, it
continues to happen. What was the whole joke with you
and relationships, Right. You're always talking about how
it's not going to work out this person.
And so it doesn't because it doesn't.
And you won't allow yourself to have hope because you don't want

(01:12:26):
your hope to be destroyed. Yeah.
And so because of that, you're always going to run into the
negativity. Mine is the actual, like,
literally other side of the coinwhere it's like, I can see the
negativity, but I'm hoping for the positivity.
And my hope gets destroyed everyday.
But then I wake up with a littlebit of New Hope because somebody
else inspired me. Yeah, I saw a negative couple

(01:12:48):
that same day. But you know what?
I saw a happy older couple laterthat day that I'm not talking
about because I'm, and that's the fucked up part.
I should talk about the positivestuff too.
But you know what? That little couple inspired
hope. So yeah, the young couple sucks.
Our world sucks right now. It's fine.
But the older couple gave me hope.
Like, hey, they made it through a bunch of shit.

(01:13:09):
They made it through a Great Depression, through two world
wars, maybe. I don't know if they're that
old. They made it through Vietnam,
they made it through Korea. They made it through recessions.
Fucking they made it through global conflicts, they made it
through a lot of shit, and they came out on the other side and
they're happy even in these bleak times.
That gives me hope. So that's kind of the mindset

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when you're looking at it, when you're looking at the future, if
you expect a negative, you're going to get negative.
But if you expect positive, you might get positive.
You might not, but you might. So why not hope?
What's the worst you got to lose?
Damn, that was kind of a bar. Hold up the fuck up.

(01:13:53):
I'm sleeping. Sorry, sorry.
Sorry. Holy shit.
Man. Sorry, that was that was a bar
that was kind of spinning. I lost my train of thought after
that. Yeah, you that, that was a good
yell. Man, that scared me.
I like, I covered my mouth and everything.
Shit. Hopefully she needs it.

(01:14:16):
I think she would have woken up from your yell versus my yell
because it was about the same, but yours was.
Yeah, I I wouldn't be surprised if she fucking barges through
that door and tells us shut up. And that would actually be kind
of funny. I'm not even gonna.
Lie I. I do you see my point though?
Yeah, I see your point, but like.

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I'm not going to ask you to change your view either.
That's your. That's your view.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like I said, my, my for
some, for, for some reason, my luck, it's not like everybody
else I have. It's because of the way you
believe. But no, it, that's not, that's,
that's bullshit to me. It, it is because I, I hope, I
hope for the best. And yet every time I get the

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best, I get the worst fucking outcome.
OK. Like for example, like this is
like a very outlandish outcome. Sure, go ahead.
I'm like, all right, I got thesebrand new shoes.
I'm gonna. I'm.
I'm gonna. He's making an example people.
This didn't. Actually happen I'm I'm I got
these brand new shoes. I can't wait to go show it to to

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Devin at his house. I get in the car, still clean.
I fucking drive to your house, still clean.
I walk up the driveway still clean, but the moment I step on
your fucking porch I step in dogshit.
That's very likely to. That is that is, and the entire
time I'll be excited, I'll be very hopeful that you'll get to

(01:15:42):
see these brand new shoes clean and then that should happen.
You know what I think it is? I think it's a combination of a
couple different things. And I've been observing you for
a long time as your best friend,so take what I say with the
grain of salt, but you know, tryto listen if you can.
I think it's a combination of a couple different things.
I know that, and we can censor some of this as we have to, but

(01:16:07):
I'm just going to tell it wrong,OK?
I know that you have a fear of letting people down and that you
hate the feeling of someone being disappointed in you, OK?
And I know you hate the feeling of disappointment in yourself
too, whether it be through an outcome that you expected or
something that you thought you were going to be able to do.

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And so because of that and because of the hurt that you
felt at some point in your life,a coping mechanism you may have
developed is shooting low and blending in and not expecting
things and letting your hope dieout so that you don't experience
that hurt. Another thing is, like you said,

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the shoe example, right? To me, that's almost like,
that's almost like you trying tocontrol things that are out of
your control. Like, yeah, you have some new
shoes and you would love to showme the brand new white shoes.
You don't want to get them dirty.
But you know what I was thinkingof when you said that?
It reminded me of that SpongeBobepisode where he is trying to
take a picture for his driving school.

(01:17:13):
And so he makes himself look as perfect.
As he can and. Then runs to the driving school
and the entire day, like people keep trying to get them dirty
and get them dirty. And to me, that's an example of
your life, right? I mean, it's just let me cook.
So he's obsessed about this one outcome and this one outcome is

(01:17:34):
he doesn't want to get dirty. He doesn't want to get dirty.
He doesn't want to get dirty. He doesn't want to get dirty.
Picture day. He can't get dirty.
And because of that, what happens?
He gets dirty. And not only does he get dirty,
he gets fucked up like all throughout the episode and he
loses his shit by the end beforethe the whole resolution, he
loses his shit and he breaks down because he's like trying to

(01:17:58):
control shit that he can't control.
And he cares too much about shitthat he probably shouldn't care
about. And I think we all do that as
people, right? And so I can see a situation
where after that, if he didn't get that resolution at the end
of the episode, he turns into a person that goes, well, let me
just expect the bad now so that I don't feel that way ever
again. And then the few times that he

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does start to get hope, he becomes very obsessive about how
to go about things. He becomes very controlling
about the situation and how things should play out so that
he can feel a certain type of way.
And I think part of growing up and part of maturing is letting
go and realizing that you can't control everything and that you
shouldn't want to either, because that's a fucking
headache and that things come and go and it's going to be bad

(01:18:44):
and it's going to be good. Like, I literally had a
breakdown yesterday and I still woke up this morning and fucking
had a smile on my face, right? You can't control everything,
and bad things are going to happen regardless if you expect
it or if you don't expect it. But why would you want to live
your entire life expecting bad? Yeah, it saves you a little bit

(01:19:06):
of hurt, but it also robs you ofany joy that you could feel.
The highs are never going to be as high because you're always
riding low. Oh my God, I'm so good at this
dude. I'm fucking cooking right now.
Anyways, I think it's a situation like that.
It's like if you're always obsessed on the worst outcomes,

(01:19:28):
then like you said, that's all you're going to see.
You're going to see all the obstacles.
And then you're going to be hyper fixated on the obstacles.
And then God forbid one of the obstacles actually gets in your
way, you're going to be like, see, see, see.
Everybody look at, I called it, I called it Dan.
I tell you, Dan, I tell look at Devin.
I told you, I told you, look at,look at my shoes got dirty.

(01:19:48):
I told you they were going to get dirty.
Fuck that. I'm never buying shoes again.
Look at why? Why?
Because they got dirty. Nope, Nope.
I'm not doing it no more. And then you know what?
You miss out on the next drop ofshoes.
You miss out on the John Cena collab.
You're oh, I want to buy these John Cena shoes, but I can't
because they're going to get dirty.
Or you know what? How about I buy them and then I

(01:20:09):
wrap them in, you know, silicone, and I put them in a
frame and I put them in a box and then I keep them safe
forever. Well, yeah, I guess you could do
that if you really wanted to, but you didn't get to wear the
shoes from that you wanted so bad.
And like, yeah, you can show your friends when they come
over, but it's going to be like,Oh yeah, that's that's pretty
cool, man. Those are the the Cenas, right?

(01:20:31):
Yeah, those are tight. And you don't really get the
same experience. Part of living life is accepting
that things are going to go bad and just being OK with it.
I know my car is going to get scratched over time.
I know the paint's not going to be, you know, it's hard.
It's hard for me to admit. So give me a second.
I know the paint's not going to be perfect forever.

(01:20:52):
I know I'm going to have to buy tires.
I know my rims are going to get fucked up.
I know parts of it are going to get rusty.
I know in 20 years it's probablynot even going to run that well.
But it might because it's a Toyota.
The point is, it's something that you have to be OK with
because if I'm like, no, I'm notgoing to buy a car because in 10

(01:21:12):
years it's not going to run. So what's the point?
Well, then I just lost out on 10years of memories that I could
have had with that car. I lost out in 10 years of
connections that I would have made with that car.
I lost out on 10 years of adventures I would have taken on
that car. I lost out on 10 years of trying
new things that that car would have inspired me to do.
And I'm seeing it first hand, ironically, with the car, you

(01:21:35):
know, and I tried to justify notbuying that car beforehand, but
I'm glad I did. I'm glad I postponed some of my
life choices for that car cuz it's I'm getting to witness that
first hand. And that's something that we
just got to learn, expect, and accept from life.
That's my perspective on it. So if you're always expecting

(01:21:57):
the bad, you're always expectingrelationship relationships to
fall through. You're always expecting long
work days and you're always expecting that bad thing and you
expect it like it's going to happen.
There's nothing I can do about it.
And then it happens and you point at it and go see, then
you're just robbing yourself of maybe living a little bit more
of a fulfilling life. But if you're happy with how

(01:22:19):
your life is, then I can't tell you to change, and I'm not going
to. I accept you for who you are.
And I did 12 years ago, 13 yearsago when I met you.
I'm just glad you're still my friend.
Thank you, Eddie, I love you. Whatever I you know, it's a
Tangier God. Damn it, we went for an hour and

(01:22:40):
a half. I didn't mean to go this long.
One of my supervisors was givingme like like compliments and
shit. I almost hit him with the
whatever. You should.
I you should. Is it who I'm thinking of?
No, it's not. Not who you think.
The girl. No damn dude, that would have
been. Fun.
But yeah, I think when I first started she's like, oh, you're

(01:23:00):
doing a good job. I was a bad hair with the
whatever. You should hit him with the
whatever dude. They're not expecting that.
That's like my favorite shit. Like me and my brother will
literally say that to each other.
It's our own ongoing joke. I'll be like, you know what,
bro? I'm glad we're playing this game
together. I'm having a good time.
He'll be a whatever. Or he'll be like, hey, bro, I

(01:23:20):
saved you a slice of pizza. Like, I think you'll like it.
I'll be like, whatever. And then we just start laughing.
So I think you should hit him with the weather.
I, I, I should have that day, but but back to the point when
every time, every I, I, I for some reason I when I get that
good and I get surprised by thatgood when I was expecting the

(01:23:43):
outcome, I take it as a reward. It is a reward.
Because because I don't get those as often.
Oh, that's kind of a bar. That's kind of a bar.
It is kind of a reward, and you should look at it as a reward.
But if you're looking at it fromthat perspective, wouldn't you
want rewards more often? You're a gambling man, right?

(01:24:06):
No offense. So look at it like steaks.
If you play the negative card, and I'm not trying to call you
negative, that's just these are just the terms I'm choosing.
If you play the negative card, your chances of hitting
something positive drop to 15%, let's say.
But when they hit, you get a 5% bonus on the dopamine, the good

(01:24:32):
feeling right now, if you play the positive card, your chances
of something positive happening shoot up to 50%.
But because of how often you're going to be winning, it's not
always going to hit as hard. Which one would you rather go
with? I think I think I'll go with the
safest option. To me, the safest option feels

(01:24:55):
like the one where I'm going to win more, not the one where I'm
going to lose more. But you're also a very.
That's statistics right there. But you're you're a very
impulsive person. That has nothing to do with joy.
It does. Not in this specific regard.
My impulse has nothing to do with.
Yeah, because. Outcomes.

(01:25:16):
It it does. Not in this example.
I get where you're. Trying to go with.
It I get where you're trying to go with it, but like this is,
this is all about perspective. My impulse has nothing to do
with perspective. Impulse is a byproduct of my
personality. Positive card you're going to
win more often. Negative card, you're going to,

(01:25:39):
you're not going to win as often.
Now the safest option to you is the negative because then a
you're getting the outcome you expect more often.
But that's not safe. That's boring.
Safe is something where you knowyou're going to be like, if it
was money, you would choose option A because you know that

(01:26:00):
over time those $5 are going to add up versus maybe a $10 here
or there. You're like, hey, option AI can
get $5 at least two to three times a week.
And so by the end of the year, I'll have a lot of money
compared to the option B where Imight get a $10 on a Monday if

(01:26:25):
I'm lucky, or it might be two weeks before I get one.
It's statistics. So at this point, as a question
to you and anybody who's actively listening to this, why
not go for option A? What do you got to lose?

(01:26:46):
And if it seems scary, look at it like this.
You're in a very blessed position where you have people
like me around you, who care about you and who support you
and who aren't going to let those bad days ever bring you
down, truly, you know, So you always have people around you
who are always going to lift youback up.
And we're never going to let those bad days kill you, so to

(01:27:09):
speak. So why the fuck not?
We're your safety net. You have a safety net and you
have the the bet that's going toget you more positivity over
time. And you're still choosing the -1
because it's a more predictable outcome.
Fuck that. No, because again, that's you

(01:27:30):
living life on in the fast lane.That's that's literally and
that's that's the impulse. Wait, hold on.
No, no, no. It's.
My turn, it's in. My turn.
It's in my. No, no, it's my.
I'm done. I'm done.
I'm trying to. I'm trying to.
OK. Oh, OK, sure, because you just
had a 20. Minute.
I know, I know, I know. And then I, I, I come in for 30
seconds and you go for 20 more minutes.

(01:27:50):
I know that's my bad. I should have finished up
properly. I think that 20 minute
monologue, as you said, is the best way I can explain.
I think that's the best way I'veever explained it to you, to be
fair. It has.
OK, I'll give you that. I'll give you that.
Here's a star. That's that's the best way I
think I've ever explained it. So if that way doesn't really
kind of express my point, then Idon't know if I'm the right

(01:28:13):
person to tell you any of this. Maybe it has to be the future
love of your life. I don't know.
Maybe it has to be your. Mom, no, I I understand it.
And we're just two completely different people.
That's it. And it's because of your actions
that you get that joy. You're like, fuck it.
If I break a bone, I break a bone, but I have those memories.

(01:28:36):
I'll be like what? I still want my bone.
I don't, I don't care about those fucking memories.
I, I want my bone because I knowin 50 years this bone is going
to save me while you you're going to be fucking dying of
that pain of what that broken bone you got.
But you have those memories likeit it we're just two completely
different people. And no matter how we we play it,

(01:29:00):
we're the outcome is still goingto be the same.
Can I ask a question? What?
How does my impulse to do thingslike that Yeah pertain to my
choice to live positively? Because if you always want to go

(01:29:22):
after seeking like you, you're the type of person that wants to
go and seek memories no matter what.
And that's you being optimistic that you're going to find those
memories. Me, I'm, I'm not a sentimental
person. I'm not going to find those
memories. But yeah, I'm still making
memories by being present in my own little world, whether or not

(01:29:46):
it's negative, because for the most part, we always remember
the the negative instead of the positive.
Like you. You didn't tell me about the the
old married couple, the happy couple you started off with that
depressing couple. Yeah, that's very true.
So that was my train of thought.We focus on the negative.

(01:30:08):
We focus on the negative regardless, and you seeking
that, that, that hope, that hopefulness, you're still going
to get it regardless because again, you're impulsive, you're
outgoing, you're extroverted, so.

(01:30:28):
All that I see what you're. Saying so all that adding
together, of course you're goingto get those fucking.
I get what you're saying. So you, I think so you're saying
because of how our personalitiesare, I'm set up to get more
positive. Outcomes, yes.
Well, that's not the case. I mean, like I've mentioned a

(01:30:51):
couple times already, I do have bad days and I had a very bad
day yesterday. I get negative.
Yeah, everybody. I'm not.
I'm not saying that. Yeah.
No, no, I get it. But I don't get positive because
of my impulsive, my impulsive, my impulsive.
Impulsiveness, Impulsiveness. Well, impulsiveness, yeah, but

(01:31:12):
impulsivity, Is that even? I don't think that's a word.
I think it's impulsiveness. Impulsiveness.
I don't get positivity because of my impulsiveness.
I don't get positivity because of my extrovertedness.
I don't get positivity because I'm seeking memories.
Those three things are byproducts of me seeking

(01:31:35):
positivity. Those three are things that
happen because I want positivityin my life, so to speak.
And you can still get that, you know, with your personality,
right? Since we're opposite, you're
more introverted and you're lesslikely to be going out and
trying things, right? That's fine.
That's completely OK, but you can still have a positive life.

(01:31:58):
Like here's an example. WWE, right?
I know it's scripted, but just stick with me for the example,
right? That's your thing.
Now, this is a great example because you don't do this with
WWE. You don't go in there expecting
negative, do you? You don't go in there saying
this person's going to lose, this person's going to lose,

(01:32:19):
this WWE is going to sell. But I mean.
But let me finish. OK, for, but for for the sake of
your example, I'll say yes. Yeah, I mean the, I mean in the
sense of like this WWE is going to suck, this Smackdown is going
to suck. Like, I don't even know why I'm
watching it. Like there's no point.
Like I already know what's goingto happen.
Like this is going to happen. And then I'm going to be able to

(01:32:42):
say, see, I knew this was going to happen.
You don't do that. You go, Devin, I don't know
what's going to happen. Like it's going to be crazy.
Like Cena's going to go crazy, right?
That's that right there. That's what I'm talking about.
That's all perspective. Now, if you could have that same

(01:33:02):
perspective with life, I'm not. Again, I'm not telling you to
you might see a difference in your overall enjoyment of it.
You don't have to go out and be impulsive and, you know, start
drifting in front of cops, wink,wink.
I'm going to tell that story eventually.
But you can still have that same, you know, perspective

(01:33:25):
like, just with little things like.
But OK. I'm going to have a good day at
work. Have you ever told yourself
that? Yes, and it it came out to be a
fucking 15 hour a day. And then this is the test.
That's the life test right there.
Remember before the show startedwe I got a life test, right?
I can sit here and bitch and complain about the life test, or

(01:33:48):
I could take it on the chin and move forward.
It sucks. Don't get me wrong, it fucking
sucks, but you know what I'm notgoing to do?
I'm not going to wake up tomorrow and go.
I'm just going to give up because it didn't go the way I
thought it was going to because that's giving up.
Let's give it. That's like up.
Sorry, life. Yeah, I didn't, I it didn't go

(01:34:08):
that way. I wanted it to.
So I'm out. Have fun with everything else.
I'm going to be over here. Like, what the fuck?
Like if it was sports and you'relike, I'm going to win, I'm
going to win, I'm going to win, I'm going to win.
And then you lost and you're like, I'm that's it.
I'm done. I'm not going to play sports no
more. Why?
Because you lost. Yeah, I lost.
Oh, OK. And I'm going to lose again.

(01:34:29):
And I'm going to lose tomorrow. And I'm going to lose the game
after that. And I'm going to lose the game
after that. No, Eddie, you might win.
Nope. Nope.
I'm going to lose. Devin, watch.
I promise you I'm going to lose.Don't tell yourself that.
Tell yourself you're going to win.
Devin, I promise you. I'm going to tell myself I'm
going to win. And then I'm going to go in
tomorrow and I'm going to lose. Just tell yourself you're going
to win. Fine, fine.
For you. I'm going to tell myself I'm

(01:34:50):
going to win. I'm going to win, but I
guarantee you I'm going to lose.Then you go tomorrow, guess what
happens? You lose.
Then you come back and you saw, see, I lost.
That's why I don't tell myself I'm going to win.
Why would you want to do that toyourself?
Why would anybody want to do that to themselves?
I guess it's draining coming from a person who has a

(01:35:12):
different perspective. To me, I know.
To me, it's not drain, but I also thought about this and I
still do believe this in a way. Our life is predetermined no
matter what. So we can sit, you can sit here
and say I'm going to have a goodday at work.
And if you do have a good day atwork, that's not you attracting

(01:35:36):
it. That's the the the book of your
life. The book of your life was a
reschedule for you to have that a good day.
So I love that argument with this, too, because for this
conversation, all of your usual counterpoints have no bearing

(01:35:56):
here. All right?
So, OK, your life's predetermined.
Yeah, that's fine. You can believe that.
Personally, I don't, but you can, Right?
Oh, I kind of do. It's weird.
I because there are instances. Where you know, I, I, I'm, I'm.
We won't get lost in it though. So OK, your life's predetermined
same situation. Even if your life is set up to

(01:36:19):
be -80% of the time, you don't have to wake up every day
expecting the negative because then you know what you're doing
when it let's just say God's like, you know what, Eddie, your
life's going to be -85% of the time for your entire life.
And I'm never going to fix it. OK, That's predetermined,

(01:36:41):
whatever. Why would you wake up every
single day and then go, Yep, today's going to suck because
then you're giving into the pressure of it.
Everyone's telling you, you haveto feel negative because your
life's negative. And you're going, OK, why?
Even if my life is negative likeyesterday, I hate, I hate that I

(01:37:05):
keep saying this, but in the middle of my breakdown, in the
middle of what I felt like my life ending and just everything.
And it wasn't that bad and it wasn't that dramatic.
I was just having a breakdown inthe middle of all that.
You know what I did me personally, because I talked to
the universe a lot. I think the universe, but you
could think the Lord or whoever you personally like pray to.

(01:37:25):
And in the middle of all of it, literally tears coming down my
face. I was like, thank you universe,
I appreciate you. I appreciate my life and I was
like, I know I'm going through it right now.
My fucking wrist is sprained self-inflicted by the way.
I know like a lot of things are going bad today and I just feel
like my life's in a weird spot right now, but I'm very glad for

(01:37:48):
my life. I'm very happy for what I've
been able to achieve and where I'm at.
And I'm glad that these are the struggles that I, I get to deal
with. I'm glad that these are the
issues that I get to cry over instead of waking up and not
having a foot or being blind or having to deal with not having
my family around or being so poor that I can't afford food.

(01:38:13):
I'm glad that the issues that I'm going through are these.
These issues, they're negative. Don't get me wrong, they're
negative, but I'm glad that these are the negative hands
that I was dealt. I appreciate that and it doesn't
matter if you guys believe me, Idon't give a shit.
You can call me crazy or whatever.
The universe though, the cosmic force that's all around us, that

(01:38:34):
decides everything, It heard me and it knew I was being serious.
And even at my lowest moments, and they teach that Christianity
too, even at your lowest moments, you have to be
appreciative for your life. So again, I ask you, if your
life is predetermined and it's all supposed to be negative,
that doesn't mean you need to beand that doesn't mean you need

(01:38:56):
to expect it. Even if it's true, even if your
life's 100% negative, which it'snot, even if it's 100% negative
and things are never going to goyour way ever, you don't need to
wake up and go, well, I can't wait for everything to not go my
way today. You can still wake up and be
like, maybe today's the day. Maybe today's the day, and I

(01:39:21):
think there's something to that.I think there's something to.
That right, But if if, if you know that tomorrow is was going
to be a bad day, why waste your time being hopeful when you know
it's already going to be a bad day?
Because I'm not going to let life beat me down.
That, but life always wins. I don't care.
I'm going to still fight. That's why the Rocky quotes my
favorite quote. Winning is never giving up.

(01:39:44):
Again, that's we're, we're two different perspectives and
you're you're going to say, my way of thinking is you're not
going to say that, but. It's wrong, Eddie.
It's wrong. No, it's I was going to say it's
cowardly. I don't think it's.
Cowardly. No, no, I'm not saying it's
Carol Lee, but we're both going to look at it as oh, he's he's

(01:40:07):
wrong, he's cowardly, Devin, you're wrong.
You're cowardly. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
a, it's a dead topic. It's.
A. It's not a dead topic because
you're not cowardly. I don't think you're cowardly
and I completely understand yourpoint.
I'm saying that it's just an example.
I understand how you got here and I understand your
perspective. I mean, like I've tried to put a

(01:40:28):
lot of work into how you look atthe situation and so I
understand where you're coming from.
I completely get it. And like, that is a safer out.
Like if you know a lot of bad things are going to happen, you
can go, Oh yeah, fuck that. I'm not going to get my hopes
up. It's too much work.
I don't want to wake up every day and get positive just for it
to be ruined. But there's nothing wrong with

(01:40:49):
doing that either. That's my argument really.
And I guess the main point I would like to leave you with
specifically is maybe if you tried the other one, you might
see an improvement. Maybe it actually makes your
life worse and then you realize how good your old perspective
was. If anything, it's a learning
experience either way, whether you choose to or you don't.

(01:41:11):
This conversation is eye openingfor both of us and it's eye
opening for the the people here.Jesus Christ.
An hour and 49 minutes. Jesus.
We're going to start having to wrap this up here since because
I did not want to go this long. And it's your turn to head it.
It is, yeah. OK, we, we if you want.

(01:41:32):
No, no, it's OK. It's OK.
I have to do it. I have to do it.
I've been making you do it. I'll do it.
I'll do it. No, no, no, no, no.
It's. Fine, I got it.
No. No, let me, I'll be.
You don't even know what I'm going to say.
I was going to say let's bring a5 minute topic and end it.
Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna pull up a 5 minute
topic here. Let me just see what I got.
I don't have any 5 minute topics.

(01:41:52):
I got a lot of good topics man. I like how my very last one is
Devin is sober now. I can't believe 05 minute topic
got it. So for the people that made it
to the end of this episode, thisis I guess for you because the
majority of our audience is men.And I would like to take a small
moment to just thank all the menbecause I recently found a bunch

(01:42:13):
of statistics at the very at theend of this very toxic video
with the whole red pill shit. I still get some of those videos
and I watch them for entertainment.
I'm not going to lie, none of them are agitate though.
Is he arrested? I don't know.
He just fell off. No, he he still he tries to be
relevant by tweeting a lot of. Stupid shit.

(01:42:36):
Yeah, but it's it. His 15 minutes of fame is over.
Yeah, he was. It was there.
It was there. And then he got arrested.
But anyways, it doesn't matter. So at the end of this video,
they were doing interviews and it was those standard rage bait
interviews. And the guy was like, do we need
men? And it went through a, a hyper

(01:42:58):
cut of I think over 30 women on the street saying that we don't
need men. All different groups.
There's like groups of girls. There were single girls, you
know, there was Tortas, there were skinny girls, there was
older women, younger women, I think even a little girl at one
point. And so then right after that, it
started going into statistics. And this is what made me really

(01:43:19):
appreciate, you know, men. So shout out to the men because
95% of all military personnel are men. 96% of all lumberjacks
are men. 94% of all pilots are men. 96% of ship captains are
men. 94% of welders professionalwelders are men. 96% of oil rig

(01:43:44):
workers are men. 97% of men are fishermen.
I mean it's in the name. 92% of men working are are construction
workers are in the construction worker industry.
I fucked that last one up. Don't. 97% are deep sea divers.

(01:44:05):
98% are underwater welders. 95% are industrial miners, 90% are
engineers, and 94% are railroad railroad workers.
Now unless you're a fucking idiot, you should know that
every single one of those industries is super, super

(01:44:27):
important to keeping the world up and running.
So for every single person out there who's ever said that they
hate men and they don't need men, fuck them.
Because I want to say personallythank you guys.
We appreciate you. Thank all of you.
Thank you to all of you. I appreciate you.

(01:44:48):
Police officers, military lumberjacks, pilots, ship
captains, welders, oil rig workers especially because those
guys literally will die doing their job.
Fishermen, construction workers,deep sea divers, underwater
welders, industrial miners, engineers, railroad, railroad
workers. Why is that so hard to say?
Thank you. We appreciate you, Eddie.

(01:45:11):
Eddie, say say thank you. Come on, man.
Just a thank you. Thank you for your service.
Thank you, we appreciate you andthank you for listening to this
episode. So we're going to do an abrupt
ending. Goodbye.
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