Episode 117: Insecurities & Confidence

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Take it away. Would you be mad if I kiss your
wife? What?
He's just like, bored. He's just like.
What? What?
All right, retake, re roll, re roll, do it again.
Would you be mad if I kiss your wife?
What? Yeah, see it doesn't.

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Sound. Yeah, it was too scripted.
Too, too little, too into it. No, it's fine.
We won't do another take. Under what context?
Because so like. Were you watching the Family or
Family the American Dad episode or?
No I was watching just some random movie scene and it was 2
couples like hanging out and theguy the main guy kissed the

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other guy's wife on the cheek like saying hi and then vice
versa. I thought that was weird.
I I I it's AI only deal to like na Nas and shit and Thea so
people are all older than me butthat's like a Mexican thing.
But I never done that to someonemy age.

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Multiple things here. OK, first thing, I personally
don't do that. I know people that have and I
know people in my family that do, but I was never like trained
to give people kisses on the cheek or whatever as a kid.
So like, it's just not part of like me.
So it'd be weird if like you started to do it #2 Every time

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that I had done it, you're right.
It's always still like. Old.
Old, yeah. You know, like a Nanas or
whatever. It's usually just reserved for
Nanas or Velas or people you don't really see that much
distant Theas that you're just supposed to like be cool with
because they're your Thea. But no, no, I've never done it

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to like a a girl my age. Yeah, it's, I think that's.
Weird and you never do it you I've never seen you do it like.
What like. Family so like if you just
started doing it and then like. No, I do it to family.
Randomly I'd be like, yeah, Eddie, what the fuck are you
doing? Like, why?
Why are you kissing my wife on the cheek?
And that's another thing too, I guess.
Like people say hi like that. If you said hi like that to

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everybody, like I don't, I don'tknow if I would care, honestly.
It's not that big of a deal. But if it was like a random
thing and then you kissed on the, I'd be like, what the fuck
is going on here? I'd be like, well, OK, you 2 sit
down. We're going to talk about this.
Pull your wife over at my side. I'd be like, hey, we're going to
investigate these two. Something weird is happening
here. Eddie's getting freaky.

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But what if your wife is like super Mexican?
And that's how she introduced, That's how she introduced
herself to people. Then I wouldn't, I wouldn't care
because like if I met a super Mexican girl, like straight
from, not even Mexican, let's just say a super like Spanish
girl, like straight from like Colombia or something, right?
Where they do that all the time.Yeah.
And that's like how I got to know her and I saw her introduce

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herself to everybody like that. At first it would bug me and
then I'm sure I would get used to it, right?
That's her culture. I can't tell her to stop.
But if it was like, you know, that's her culture.
But then randomly like one day, like in my head, for whatever
reason, I'm picturing us, I got AI like a beach or like a
resort, right? And then we're like, in on

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vacation and like, we're sittingand like this open air dining
section, like right off the beach.
And there's like no wall or whatever.
It's just like fresh air. And we're sitting there and it's
me and my wife and your wife sitting there.
You were running late for some reason.
You come down, you say hi to your wife, kiss on the cheek,
and then you say hi to my wife and kiss on the cheek.

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And then I go, What the fuck just happened?
Hold on. Pause, Eddie, sit down.
Yeah. Give me, give me some more
mimosas. I know I don't drink no more,
but I'm going to need some help here.
And then it blows up. That's how I'm picturing it.
You know, I'm not picturing it like because you're the way
you're asking me is like it justhappened randomly.
And Eddie, let's be honest here.Like what?

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That was a fully loaded question.
That wasn't a half loaded, that wasn't a semi cock.
That was a fully loaded hard Dick erection, morning wood type
of question. Loaded.
Ready to bust all over. What?
Like what? What did you What kind of
response did you think you were going to get out of?
Would you be mad if I kissed your wife?

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Yes, Eddie. Yes, I would.
I would be upset. I would be upset.
I I would think so. But like in that context.
Eddie what context? It doesn't have to like you're
giving me these like basically you're doing what my brother
does. You're giving me an impossible
question. He'll he'll be like, what would
you do if I knock your ass out right now?

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I'll be like, well, you could try, but doubt it's going to go
that way. He's all yeah, but like, what
would you do if I did? No, but like my my question,
there's more context behind. That he does the same thing.
I'll be like, well, if you try to knock me out, I get pissed
and I try to knock you out. He's all yeah, but what if you
try to knock me out and then youswung and the mist and then I
knocked you out with my famous right?

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I'm like, then I'm knocked out. What do you want me to do?
And it's like the same thing. You're like, what would you do
if I kissed your wife? Like I'd be pissed off if you
kiss. Her like like like what?
If it was her culture, well thenI wouldn't be pissed off.
Like what do you, what do you want?
Me to say like, let's say like you're the first time you're
introducing before she's your wife she's your girlfriend,
right? Let's say you you you're dating

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a girl named Maria and you finally want to introduce her to
me and the I thought Colombian and I thought, whatever.
Hey wait, is Marissa a Hispanic name like a Spanish?
Name. No, I don't think so.
It doesn't sound Spanish. I've only met one Marissa in my
entire. Life.
I've met multiple really. Yeah, Marissa's are always bad.
Pause, as you were saying. As as you where are we the only

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Marissa you Did we go to high school with her?
Why? Why are you diving into it on
the show? I have ADHD, sorry.
No, you don't get to use my excuse, my excuse to be like I
would already forgot about it. That's ADHD you have.
It's because I'm thinking of a Marissa that we we can.
Talk about this offline. OK, OK, OK.
It's your fucking fault. It's your fault for bringing up

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Marissa. I brought Maria.
OK, that's fine, that's fine. It's just the way you said it
reminded me of the name. Maria Fine, fine.
So you introduce, you bring Maria over, and she fucking
kisses me. We look at each other.
I'm like, Devin, is this a thingwe have to do with her now?
Like, do I'm gonna have to sit you guys down?
If you look at me, we're concerned like it's the first

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time happening and I've never seen that happen before.
I would be like, what? What the fuck?
Like that would be another trip too.
Is like if I'm introducing her to a bunch of people and then we
finally get around to you, right?
For whatever reason, like I pushyou.
Like you're I'm the fucking lastperson.
Yeah, and then she like, that's the first time she busted out.
I'd be like, hold on, pause, Eddie, go to the other room.
What? What what the fuck are you

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doing? Why?
Why are you switching up on me? What was that shit?
And then if she hits me with the, oh, he looks Mexican.
So I get my mad. Like, I I end it right there.
I'd be like, Eddie, I don't knowwhy, but you're somehow stealing
my girl. So I'm ending all of it right
now. I've never seen her again.
Congratulations, you ruined my life.
And I would just be, I just be honest with you.
I just be like, I'm uncomfortable with it, you know?

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OK. I don't like the.
Fact. Because.
Because. She sees you.
She feels the need to kiss you on the cheek.
See, now you're getting me upsetfirst thing in the morning.
What are we doing? What was this?
What was this opener? I I told you, you could start
it. No, this is bullshit.
This was your opener. This is, this is.
You're like, oh, this is gonna cook.
Yeah, it it cooked. We we killed what, 10 minutes,

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7-7 minutes? I can't believe that got me
introduce this show. Hi guys.
This is a Joe Rogan experience hosted by the Moon Man podcast.
My name is Eddie. That guy over there is Devin.
We're gonna have a good episode today and.

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You sound like you're reading off a telephone.
My name is Eddie, and we're gonna we're gonna have a good
time today. It's gonna be very fun.
Let's get turned up. Very, very informative.
Everybody in the back make some noise.
I can tell you have a a rejuvenation to you today.
You have like a a new energy. Yeah, you've been waiting to do
this. Dude this is my only hobby that

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I I still enjoy. Yeah, I guess so, yeah.
I mean you, you can't even game anymore.
I can't. I was playing COD earlier and.
Yeah, wake up and play games. No, it's more like wake up, do
laundry. I'm bored.
Where's Devin? I'm a play COD.
Yeah, you try that one day, liketomorrow even wake up early

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because you know you're not going to sleep in.
Yeah, wake up early, make yourself some coffee or grab
yourself like a whatever, like an energy drink or like a
coffee, just some caffeine. Come to your room, start
drinking your coffee and just log into the game and for
whatever reason it's like it's own fresh.
Feeling that that's like, that'slike the Saturday morning
cartoon type feeling because I've done it before, like in

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middle school, high school. I, I, I like that experience.
I don't know why. I don't know.
I don't know why. Just seeing the sunrise while
playing games like I, I feel like I'm going to have a good
day. It feels good.
I don't. I think you're right.
The whole Sunday, Saturday morning cartoon thing.
That's, that's, I never thought of it like that before, but
there's a couple of times where like I'm, I just need, I just

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need a morning. I just need a morning.
And then like I, I schedule it in advance in my head.
I'm like, all right, this Saturday, I'm going to wake up
early, like crack of dawn, 5:00 AM type shit, make myself a
black coffee and just sit down in my room and game for like 4
or five hours before anybody starts to wake up.
Because there's that too, because I currently live with my

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family, a lot of them start waking up and coming downstairs
around, you know, 8 or 9 or whatever.
So if it's a day where everybody's sleeping in too, oh
God, you got like 5-6 hours uninterrupted, then that sets
you on a good pass for the day. So then you can go and do other
stuff and then save gaming for the end of the night or like
later that day, depending on when you do it.

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Right now I don't. Know why I I did that once with
Daisy when I was really into Daisy.
You woke up and just started. Playing, yeah, but the thing
with with that was that since I was in Los Angeles time while I
was asleep, everyone else was. I was awake, everyone else was

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asleep. So like there's.
When, when was this? So do you.
Because you know how on the servers it has like the Los
Angeles time zone? Yeah.
Yeah, I was like, you went to Los Angeles recently and didn't
tell me, and you were playing Daisy over there.
How did you get your computer over there?
I was all confused. No it it so like since I was
awake, since I was awake at 4:00AM, everyone was asleep at 4:00

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AM. So there was only like 3 people
on server. It was kind of boring.
I know that we bought this computer for shell purposes and
like the one that we're using torecord everything, like this is
for recording and editing stuff,but I almost regret having you
buy it because I saw the little ROG Ally thing that Kyle has.

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OK. And I'm like, it's a more
powerful version of the Steam Deck that can run more games
than the Steam Deck can. And he was, like, letting me
fiddle with it pause. And I was, like, messing around
with it pause and like playing with all the buttons.
And I was, like, testing out some games.
They're like, damn, this is like, this is smooth.
It keeps itself cool. It's got a long battery life,

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but it's just fucking expensive.And I was like, this is like
roughly around the same price asthis thing, right?
Yeah. And I'm like, we should, I
should have just had Eddie buy this for video games and we
could have kept using his laptopfor recording.
No, I I don't regret that purchase there.
Have you ever had a regretful purchase?

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Yeah, I I think my Steam Deck was 1.
OK, that I can understand that because you don't use it.
Well I I bought it because I wasexcited for it and I thought hey
this will be great because I travel a lot for work but my in
my stupid head getting all excited over the stupid steam
deck. I forgot that like at work when
I'm travelling I never have freetime to do anything or to game

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really. There is only like 2 trips where
I really had time to game and soI was like, I can't wait to buy
this. And I got so excited over what
it can do and the specs and justbuying it that I didn't think
whether I should. So then when I got it, I played
it for probably like 30 hours total with all the games that I
tried out. And then I just realized like,

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Hey, I, this is kind of a pain in the ass to use a lot of times
because like, if I'm at home, I'd rather be on my game, my, my
PC. And if I'm traveling, then I'm
really not, or I'm out doing stuff that I'm really not
focused on, like the game I have, you know, it would have
been awesome at school. No, because that's too big to
hide. Like the good thing about PSPS

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and DSS is they were small and they're easy to hide.
Well see that's the thing, I'm acertified handheld gamer, bro.
So like I've always gamed and I've always gained on the go.
So I had a Game Boy Advance, theones that open and close, but I
did have the original Game Boy for a little while.
Then I had the PSP, the PSP Go, PSP, Vita, Nintendo DS, Nintendo

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3DS, the 2DS, the three DSXL, and then I ended up getting the
Steam Deck. So like I always said.
Oh, and then the Switch I had toswitch to AT, I didn't get it
till after high school. The point being I got pretty
familiar with handhelds in the different sizes and I think at

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school it would have been a lot better because I don't really
use handhelds. Do you?
No, but the only handheld they truly like put like over like
300 hours on was the PSP. Oh really?
PSPS are fucking awesome. Yeah, they were ahead of their
time. You know you can probably like
with one of the ones you have lying around, you could probably
restore it and jailbreak it and then mod it so that you can play

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all your PSP games without having to put in the disk.
Really. Yeah, people have been
jailbreaking those fucking things for a while.
So what they do is they get the PSP, it basically restore it so
that it runs right and it functions as a device.
And then they get like ASD cardswith a TB of storage and loaded
up with all the PSP games that the Internet has available right

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now. Everything from like known games
like the Marvel games to FIFA toMadden to whatever Jack and
Daxter, even ATV versus BMX, like all of that stuff.
And then they load it on the SD card, they plug it in, they
jailbreak it on the device so that it reads the SD card, and
boom, now you have all your fucking games.

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That's cool, but as someone who is starting to want to collect
physical medium, I'd rather justhave the discs.
That if you're the kind of person that wants to collect
physical media, I would have really encourage you to do that.
Because the thing that we're seeing right now, not the thing
that we're seeing, but the thingthat I've been noticing that a

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lot of people are talking about online is the lack of physical
media availability currently. Yeah.
Like a new movie will come out and you'd be lucky to find it on
Blu-ray, right? And so the only means to collect
these things is their digital versions, especially when it
comes to PSP games, because all of the PSP games stopped being

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manufactured like a decade ago. And some of these obscure games
that you remember probably don'teven have physical discs left
that you could collect, you know, especially the weird PSP
ones. So a lot of people are just
resorting to downloading their entire library to have it like
that. Because I mean, how else are you
going to fucking get this obscure ass game from Japan that

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you saw on sale when you were 10on the PSP shop?
You know, like it's just you won't.
You won't. So that's why I like I would,
that's why if you are trying to get into that, I would encourage
that. Yeah, I was thinking about
buying APS 2 or APSP, one of thetwo.
Were you a big PS2 guy? Yeah, for the most part.
That was my first console. Was it really?

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Well, I it wasn't for me. It was my brothers.
But it was. Your first, it was my first
console me playing and it was I was playing crash that was.
Your favorite game on there? Which crash?
The first one that was for the PS1, but you could you were able
to play PS1 games on the PS2, Yeah.
Yeah, I missed that fucking concept.

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I still have mine and it won't. Work the other slim or the thick
1 slim? Oh, I had, he had the thick one.
He had the OG, yeah, I didn't. We couldn't get the OG and I
didn't even know what video games were at the.
Time. Oh and then fun fact, me and the
PS2 share the same birthday. You came out the same day the
PS. Two.
Yeah. Really.
Yeah. So like, really.

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Yeah. And everything.
Yeah, everything the. Launch date and everything.
Yeah, I. Almost dodged your birthday on
here so I had to stop. I don't know if we talked about
it before I. Don't care if they know my
birthday, they still not gonna tell me happy birthday, Yeah.
That was. It OK, it passed.
Are you OK? It's two months ago down, you
know, three months ago I. Know yeah you made me feel like

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shit because I. Forgot.
Well, if Devin, they're going toknow my fucking birthday if I
tell them Oh yeah, we share the same birthday.
They just have to look up when that's true.
Yeah, that's true. That's.
True. Well, if you guys are curious
now, you could go look it up. Yeah.
And I want you guys to look it up so you guys know if you look
up Eddie's birthday, you'll remember it.
So tell him happy birthday next year.
Do me a favor, help me out because I forgot this year.

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Oh yeah, that was. Hey, to be fair though, when I
updated you last week about everything that's been going on
with my mentor for the last couple of months, I hopefully
that like tied into that Jets, we got Jets.
No idea, that's commercial. No, that's not.
Commercial. It's commercial.
There's no. It's commercial.
No, they don't fly that low. Here it's it's commercial.
All right, man, I I guarantee you.

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Whatever, I'm a Southside veteran.
I know the difference between a jet and an.
Airplane that that's that's, that's just a commercial
airplane. It was.
I didn't want to admit it thoughcuz there's always a delay with
jets. You hear the?
Yeah. And then the right afterwards.
Starscream. Yeah, what?
Starscream. What's Starscream?

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The transformer. Yeah, Starscream.
I don't remember him at all. Yeah, I remember Jazz.
Everybody remembers jazz. What?
What model was he? What Car was he?
He was a Porsche. That's why, see, it's always
been Porsche. It's Porsche.
Porsche. Yeah, I don't care.
It's. Porsche.
For you it's Devin, but for me it's my lover.

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How did that gas I got your ass?There's so much I wanted to say,
I just didn't know my answer to go with.
It's like one of those I love toyou flush menus.
Pop. Up I love to you flustered that
you fucking gas. I was like.
Because like, I get like in my head immediately.

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I'm all what the fuck, Eddie? And then he goes to see, this is
what I meant. Like Eddie just sexually
harasses me on the show and nobody cares.
And then number three, I was like, you know, that was kind of
slick though. That was sick as fuck.
And then number four, I was like, I hate doing this show
with him. And then there's something else,
but I already forgot what I was going to say.
What were you going to ask me before the the show?

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Ask you what was I going to ask?You you're like, I have AI have
a question to ask you how how wecan open it and I'm like, no, I
have a better question or something like that.
I'm. Going to be honest, I don't, I
don't remember. Oh I mean it's just maybe I will
remember shit. Hopefully, if I'm lucky.
Fuck, I was going to bring something up.

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Hey, wait, no, earlier I I, I remember, but this isn't what I
was. Going to Oh, I remember now I
was going to tell you. OK, what the?
Fuck, do you want to go now? Go ahead.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Forget it.
No, no, no. Go ahead.
No, it's not. It was about the IT wasn't a
question. It was a statement that I was
telling you about, about the women breaking the law.
Oh. Yeah, what?

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Should we go to that first or mything?
I think your thing, I don't think my thing is.
It it kind of ties into each other, I guess.
OK, what did what did you mean earlier when you said that I was
at my at my worst, at my lowest?Oh.
Talking just now, you're at Devon.
What? You're at your lowest.
Oh, I was because I'm like, dude, it it was about your

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overtime. I'm like saying that there's
going to be hot girls just so you could do over.
I don't paid overtime. You're at your lowest.
OK First off again, I didn't know that there was going to be
supposedly hot girls there untilyesterday before I and.
I like like if that if hot girlsare.
Like but. It OK but but but but.
Is that such a bad thing? Yes, it is.

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Straight young male to go someplace where there might be.
Yes, yes, and for work. Yes.
It it it's bad. Why?
Because before if we wanted you,if we wanted you to do
something, all we had to do is we'll buy you food and like bad
I I call shotgun. That's those are your words.

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Now it's like there's, there's going to be hot girls.
Hot. You obey girls.
It's always been the two, it's always been the two, it's always
been hot college girls and food.And I can only enjoy the first
one for like another few years before it starts turning weird.
You know, I can't be the 29 yearold trying to go after 19 year

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olds in college. You know you can.
No, no, I can't. I just OK just go for 21 year
olds. What are you?
Do you like them young? See, No, no, no, I don't like
them young. It just so.
Happens that the last That's a jet.
That's a jet. I do not hear it in the audio,
but they're too far away so I don't know if it's going to pick
up. It just so happens the last few

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people that I've talked to were all younger than I thought they
were initially. Like when I started talking to
them, I thought we were closer in age, and then it turns out
they were younger and I'm like, oh.
Made it weird. The fuck?
We could go into it all podcast.OK.
But I'll give you one example the the model 20.

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Really. Yeah, and she just turned 20, so
when I met her, she was 19. Oh, OK.
So there was like, what, a four year gap I think when I met her.
Five year gap. It's a five year gap, by the
way. Five year gap, five year gap.
So I already felt uncomfortable with that, you know, and I don't
want to be 29, you know, going to these events and then just

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staring at like college girls because I know people that do
that and I have to work with people who do that.
And I just think it's weird. That it is weird I but I think.
You probably see it at work too,like when you're just like doing
something and then like a girl walks by and they're all just
following her with their eyes. I'm like, bro, that's weird.
Like you're making us look bad, you know?
We're the same species here. Could you stop?

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Yeah. So there at first I'll OK back.
I'm losing my point. There's nothing wrong with the
young single guy going where young single.
Girl, whatever, what what, Whatever helps you sleep at
night, Devin is that. Weird chat?
Is that weird Guys listening to?This it's.
It's weird. It's weird when it's.
On I'm talking to the Gooners. Gooners.

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Is it weird for me to agree to go someplace because there's
going to be hot girls there? Think about it.
Good ladies in the audience, the10% of you that are actually
listening to this, if you knew there was going to be hot guys
at an event that was work related, would you go?
Same for guys, if you knew therewas going to be hot girls at a

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work event, you're single, they're single, why wouldn't you
go? Why wouldn't you go, Eddie?
Because for work what let let's say I try I speak game to the
wrong girl. She could easily call up HR
sexual harassment. Boom that that happened to 1
girl I knew. She reported a dude to to their

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their HR and then he got fired. I'm not worried about it because
one, this work event is under a casual context, it's on a
weekend. So theoretically none of us,
none of us that are participating are at work and
it's not under work hours. And so theoretically and

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technically you can get away with more stuff and being a
little bit more casual. So I can go dressed out of
uniform, you know, to this event.
And I'm sure everybody else is, for the most part, like we're
just going to wear the bare bones to show the companies that
we're with, but like, everybody's going to be casual.
OK. Including the hot chicks.

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Hey, it only works out because you're cute, Devin.
What do you mean? What is that got to do with it?
It's what did we say? Pretty privilege.
Pretty privilege. There you go.
You have pretty privilege. It's not pretty privilege.
Yes, it is. I have a zit on my face, Eddie.
So I have ugly on my face. I should not laugh at that.

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Your delivery caught me the way you said.
It you. Pointed like that, your ugly on
my face so that you like, raise your eyebrows at me and I'm
like, OK, like what am I supposed to?
I don't. I've already told you I don't
think you're ugly. You're the one that's telling
yourself that. OK, if if you don't think I'm
ugly, why don't you give me a shot?
Why? Bitch, bitch, I got you.

(26:16):
I got you. I'm.
Not gay because I'm. Not neither am I, neither am I
OK, OK, OK Snap sequel If I was a girl and I shot my no whole
lot. Hear me out.
If I was a girl and I shot my shot with you, are you still
going to give me a chance? I've never seen you as a girl,
Eddie. I've only seen you with the full
beard and a deep ass man voice and a hairy butt crack.

(26:39):
You could leave my butt crack alone, man, No.
No, no, you expose me. I expose you fine.
I have a hairy butt crack. I have dingleberries sometime.
What, you didn't, I didn't eat it all that far.
I could have gone my whole life without moving past that real
quick. Skirting away.
I've already told you you're notugly.

(27:01):
I have hair in my mouth. Other people have told me.
It's like I sub in butt crack hair.
And the dingleberries. Shut up.
I've already told you that I don't think you're ugly and that
you're not ugly, but you make yourself ugly in your head, and
a lot of people do that to themselves.
You need to stop. OK, OK, we us to walk into a
bar. There's two attractive girls at

(27:23):
the bar. I'm the I'm the ugly friend
because you're the hotter 1. I don't know.
I can be, I can be ugly like I. I let my ego get to me.
Yes, you have. Days where I look cute or
whatever, but I can. I can be ugly.
We've both seen me be very ugly.You have some of the ugliest

(27:43):
pictures of me on your phone. Why?
Because you're overweight and now you have that good jawline.
The the jawline has nothing. To do Yeah it it does.
Look at my double chin right now.
I can if the mic is in the way. The mic's still in the way.
You don't have a double chin? I have a double chin.
I see it. I see it a lot.
It comes out point is everybody,Everybody.

(28:06):
Yeah, no, everybody listening tothis, you gotta stop telling
yourself you're ugly because then you start believing it.
Do me a favor, start telling yourself that you're attractive
for the everyday at least once every single day and mean it for
the next month. What do you have to lose?
Worst case scenario, you make yourself happy or sorry.

(28:27):
Best case scenario you make yourself.
Happy worst case scenario you. Become more confident in
yourself and you learn to love yourself.
Worst case scenario, nothing happens and then you don't lose
anything. What do you have to lose by
being nice to yourself? Losing time by me by not being

(28:47):
mean to myself. Oh yeah, OK.
I mean, if you if you like beingmean to yourself, go ahead by
all means. But I think it's much easier and
funner. More fun I should say, to be
nice to yourself. I don't know, just.
Dude. And plus I'm I'm really learning
like me, me and Bork were telling you the other day or
yesterday that looks are completely subjective.

(29:11):
Like, I literally met a woman the other day who thought that
my boss was hot and she said hot, hunky, desirable, fuckable.
Yeah, she said that he can get it like any way, any day of the
week. Like, she would do everything.
Now she ain't, she ain't super pretty, but she's not ugly

(29:33):
either. She's like a good middle ground.
She's like probably the line. She's probably the line.
Like if she, if she put more effort into taking care of
herself, because you could tell she was really pretty at one
point, and then she's just kind of let herself go in some areas.
Like she would be a lot more attractive.
And I'm not trying to diss her, I'm just saying what it is

(29:55):
right? Regardless, she actually has
guys who throw themselves at herbecause they want to get it.
You know, every girl does, but she has a lot, particularly
because of where she works and she's not a stripper.
I can't believe you guys just thought that if you thought that
I'd go to therapy. But she said, and I quote, your

(30:17):
boss used to be hot. He used to be hunky.
And I was like my boss. And then I was like this person,
She goes, yeah, like he was fit.He was tone and like she's like,
he can get it any day of the week however he wants it.
She's like, I'll bend myself over.
And I was like, what? Damn.
I was like, what the fuck? I was like, my I was like, I

(30:37):
know my boss. My boss ain't mate, you know
pretty dude. There's been, there's been dudes
who dudes? There's some people who said
that about you. About.
About me? Yeah.
About what? That they'll bend themselves
over for you. I why?
Why'd you say dudes? I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know why I said dude
that. That that wasn't something you

(30:57):
need to tell me on the show. First off, the dudes.
I'm trying to feed your ego, motherfucker.
I don't. I don't want to feed my ego.
I'm trying to kill my ego. Oh, OK, fine.
But now I'm very curious and I'll ask you about that off pod.
But to be fair, even. There's probably women out there
who see you are like oh fuck, like that guy in the glasses

(31:18):
over there. Yeah, yeah.
But but yeah, but but those are.Don't say outliers because.
They're no, no, no, no, no. I I I don't want to be mean.
That's what I'm trying to say. Those are girls that I don't
find attractive. It's always that.
It's always girls who I don't find.
Maybe you're the issue. Hold on.
OK, Because this is what my mom said to me because I was

(31:40):
complaining to her about the same thing.
I was like, I know that some women think I'm attractive.
Like that's just a borderline fact, right?
Everybody has people who are attracted to them.
Right. And I was like, but it seems
like all the girls that do end up finding me attractive or
shoot their shots at me are girls that I'm not attracted to

(32:01):
or that I can't be with. And I guess I had said in a way
where my mom was like, then maybe you're the issue.
She goes, what's wrong with them?
And I'm like, and I try to justify the first one.
I'm like, well, she's not prettyenough.
And then she goes, really, She goes, I thought I raised you to
be better than that. And I was like, damn.

(32:21):
And I was like, you know, maybe my ego got to me a little too
much. And so then that was when I was
like, you know, I got to kill myego.
So it might be the same. Thing.
Well, no it. Might be that your standards are
too high and you don't even realize it because most people's
standards are too high. Yeah, no, no, I don't want a
fucking 10 out of 10. I just don't find no check.
It's like a book. Are you going to pick up a book

(32:42):
with the fucking blank cover? But maybe, yeah.
OK, fine. That was a bad example.
If, if there is a book that thathad a bad cover, are you still
going to open the book? No, because you're not that
attracted to it. That's a great example.
Bad cover, because I've seen some bad covers, but it might
make you look twice at it and itmight make you question why they

(33:04):
went with that cover, Right. I know they say don't judge it
by a book, by it's cover, but that's the whole point of the
fucking cover is to sell you on the book.
Yeah, So I get your point. I get what you're saying.
And if they're not putting effort into how they look or to
how they're presenting themselves, then yeah, like I
could see you being not attractive.
But if you're just writing them off, off of like one or two
examples or a handful of examples.

(33:25):
Then can you move forward that that the chair, the chair is
rubbing up against the I was? Going to do it, I noticed it
too. It was annoying me.
If you're going based off of a handful of examples instead of
like just like if you strip the way their looks, right, would
you be attracted to them as person?
I don't know. That's kind of what I think
about now. I I don't know because even with

(33:48):
people as people as people, I still have high ass standards.
OK. But like, look at, look at, look
at. So like, I was like, I guess I
was worse than you because I wasvery superficial, very shallow,
very like they have to be supermodels.
Right. Right, to earn their spot with
me, even when I was my fugliest.And I guess I'm I had to learn

(34:11):
to start just looking at them aspeople because I had been wired
by society and by myself and by people that I hung out with to
like look at women like that, right?
And so now I look at it from this perspective, if I was blind
and I had to live with this person for the rest of my life,
could I do it? And then I think about their

(34:31):
personality after that, right? If I take looks out of it
completely, I'm looking at the person on the inside.
And it sucks. But almost all of the women that
I've like dealt with in my life,with the exception of maybe one,
are all women that I would go, no, I don't.
I don't want to live with them for the rest of my life.
Our personalities aren't that compatible, but our looks are or

(34:55):
our sizes are. So that's why we end up getting
together. That's why we end up messing
around whatever, because we lookgood on paper.
But if you go just based off of personalities, like a lot of
people that you thought you wereattracted to, they they, they,
they, they, they get shoved off.But to be fair the how?

(35:17):
How can I put this? Just put it raw, pause, put it
in raw, and then I'll edit it after the fact.
I'm editing. Oh yeah, you edit.
It after the fact. So editing Eddie, editing Eddie,
get off your phone real quick. Look at the screen.
The the girls that I'm go after aren't fucking supermodels.

(35:39):
They aren't like, objectively pretty women.
No, they are. No, no, they are but like not to
like die for not supermodels. I don't think people should be
dying for supermodels, that justshows how horny you.
Are no, no, Bo, It's it's an example like Sabrina Carpenter
for you. She's to die for Devin.

(36:03):
I brought up an example and you're like Eddie, I'll fight
you for her. Yeah, but that's more, that's
more like the plain end of the joke, for example.
And I only go that far in those examples because of how hard she
is to get access to. Like, if I knew a girl that
looked exactly like Sabrina Carpenter at work, let's say, I
wouldn't even be focused on Sabrina because I'm like, oh, I

(36:24):
have a girl that has her looks already.
So let me see her personality because we don't know how
Sabrina's personality is. Yeah.
So we're only going based off ofher looks.
And people could be like, well, your interviews are.
That's not. That's PR.
It's. Fake.
Every time she opens her mouth, that's not her speaking.
Yeah, it's PR. She's at just that level where
you don't get to know him as people.

(36:46):
Taylor Swift is the same way, like high end celebrities, like
the weekend. But I guess with the weekend you
get more glimpses into it. Like with his music with
Sabrina, people like Sabrina, you never get that.
So I'm just going based off of her looks.
That's why I play into that. I'm like, I die for her because
it's rare to get into a room with her and it's rare to meet a
girl that looks like her or has that same kind of, but whatever.

(37:07):
You know, in your case, the girls that you're going after,
no, they're not supermodels, butthere's nothing wrong with that.
Not most people aren't supermodels.
Yeah, but but the point I'm trying to make is that my
standards aren't that that high.But they're high in other

(37:28):
places. And without going too deep into
it, because then we'll be here all fucking day.
High in other places that we've talked about before off
podcasts. Yeah, that you could probably
like adjust. And they're they're low in
places that they should be higher.
You know, like you'll lower somestandards and like lock it.
And then I'm like, hey, Eddie, you should, you should raise

(37:49):
that standard up. And you're all, Nah, I like this
build. I'm going to leave it like this.
I'm like, no, like, seriously, raise that one up.
Like that one's going to mess you up in the future.
You're all Nah, I'm going to leave it like that.
I'm like, OK, that's your choice.
But then you'll have these otherones where they're it's like
super high ass standards. I'm like, hey Eddie, why don't
you lower that one? It's like, Nah, I.
Like but fortunately. You like extreme builds?

(38:10):
Like make a nuance build you like.
I'm going for the extreme. Like for like, fortunately all
the I, I've all the girls who shot me down.
I realized later on in life why they shot me down and I'm glad
that I keep dodging these bullets.
Well, what do you mean why they shot you down?
Can you give us an example? Like let's say I ask a girl and

(38:33):
she says no by keep trying to bepersistent and they keep saying
no after I give up life would belike all right this is the
reason why. Well, I guess you just, that's a
healthy perspective because I dothe same thing with some of the
the girls in my life. And there are times where I
like, let's look at Sando, for example, The big one.

(38:55):
Yeah, and I don't know if you noticed, I cut all of that
section out. From the I didn't listen to it.
So the original episode was in four hours and like 25 minutes
recording wise. Yeah.
The episode I published was two hours and 45 minutes.
So I cut out that much worth of content because I literally like

(39:17):
when we started getting to my section where we're talking
about like my ex's, I was skimming through the entire
thing and I re listened to certain sections over and over
and over again. And I'm like dude at no point
did like other people like jump in or we navigate the
conversation. Like it literally just turned
into me updating so I just cut it all out.
But that that's just for us. Anyways, if we look at Sandal as

(39:39):
an example, at the time I would have given you 10 different
reasons why it's not working out, right?
And almost none of them being myfault.
Now I realized two things. One, she was completely right
for not giving me a chance because we actually probably

(40:01):
wouldn't work out together as a relationship in the long term,
right? But I couldn't see that because
I was so obsessed over the the superficial, the artificial, the
whatever was in front of me, right?
I was focused on us saying the same things in conversation.
And I was taking it to a point where I was like, that means
we're meant to be together. Right.

(40:22):
Number two, I was focused on like her looks, obviously, you
know, I was focused on how compatible we were on paper.
And then #3I realized later on that the reason I kept push
bashing my head against this wall was because I didn't have
the self respect to walk away. And you, and until you realize
that it's a self respect issue in instances like that, you're
never going to learn to walk away.

(40:43):
Yeah, so I know what you mean. Like you get those lessons after
the fact. Yeah, like one of the girls, if
life truly wanted us to be together, be together, it would
have happened. But since we're not supposed to
be together after the fact, it'll be like, all right.
The reason why it was because she was going to have no time,

(41:04):
and now you don't have any time.So it's like it's just wrong
timing or whatever. It's probably is it?
Is it orange or? Fuck what?
It's orange pear. It's pear.
We'll just use PEAR for for thatexample.

(41:27):
Orange is E. Yeah, yeah.
OK, OK, OK. No, in that context, yes, let's
let's use orange. OK, so orange is what I'm
thinking about. Orange is the person you're
always talking on the phone with.
Yeah, let's just say that. Let's just say that that was the
example. Let's insert her, say.
Actually pear that you. Were no, no, no, I I was well.
Now I'm curious. Talking hell, do you want me to

(41:49):
pull up an actual example? No.
OK, Was. That just an example.
Yeah, it was just an, it was, itwas just an, it wasn't a serious
thing. See, I thought you were giving
me. I was like, oh, he's letting me
in. He's letting me in.
People, I'm trying to bring the whole Moon Man crew with me.
I was like, he let us into his house.
Let's explore. No, it it, it was just a niche
example. OK, I get what you mean though,

(42:10):
but like I guess and and our OK because we're two sides of the
same coin, right? And even looked it up like on
personality scales and stuff. So we act and think the same
when it comes to like relationships, right?
But we have different approaches.
So even though we're both over thinkers and we both kind of go
after the same things and we both want the same things out of

(42:31):
relationships, for the most part, we're going to like two
different ways of approaching it.
My way is very more, I shouldn'tsay it like this.
Mine's very hands on approach and yours is very laid back
approach. And so like I'm very persistent
when I'm pursuing a girl that I like or like I'm, I'm adamant

(42:52):
about letting them know how I feel or communicating or
whatever, right. But you're much more the, I'm
gonna kick back and like see where this goes and like get to
know you for like 10 months without ever telling you my
feelings, right. So you kind of look at it from
like a friend perspective where it's like, I'm gonna get to know
you as a friend 1st. And I guess both ways have their
merits and their benefits. But as we've learned in our

(43:15):
experiences, they also had theirdownfalls.
And with you, it's always much more of a case of, like, not
communicating your feelings. And then when you do, you do it
in, like, the wrong way, almost in a way where you're setting
yourself up for failure so that you don't have to deal with the
pressures of going through it. From my perspective, yeah.
From my perspective, it seems like you, you set yourself up so

(43:37):
that you know you're going to get rejected.
And then you could be like, see,I, I told you I was going to get
rejected. That way you could justify your
way of thinking. And I look at it like, well, if
he had done it like this, he probably would have got a yes.
And then I tell you, hey, Eddie,why don't you do it like this?
And then you're oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And so from my perspective, I'm like, those are examples to me

(43:59):
of where, like, you hold yourself back or you limit
yourself or you have a low standard with certain things,
like when it comes to your feelings and communicating them,
that should be a high standard for you, you know?
And a lot of people will put that as a low standard because
they don't want to interrupt theother person or make them feel
uncomfortable or force them or whatever.
And like, yeah, you can look at it from that perspective, but

(44:20):
you could also look at it from the perspective of like, I need
to tell them how I feel regardless of how it makes them
feel because if I don't tell them, it's going to hurt me or
if I tell them too late, it's going to hurt me.
You know, those are examples where I'm like, he has a
different approach to me, but I need to learn to like be a
little bit more patient like howyou are.

(44:42):
That's why I like I'm in that zone where it's like, I'm not
worried about that kind of thing.
Yes, I'm going to go try to meetup with hot girls tomorrow and
it's going to be awesome. But that's where it's going to
stay. It's more just for the the sport
of flirting, I guess. Damn, I'm in it for the
competition. If anything else, Damn, going to
go gold. But it's also, you know, maybe

(45:03):
one of them, like there's alwaysthe possibility, like you might
end up meeting your your future wife.
Yeah, but you also like that unknown.
Like you're hopeful for the unknown and you're hopeful for
the. Well, yeah, but how does that
tie into to this? What do you mean?
Oh, it's, it's not. I'm just telling you like if it

(45:25):
were me, I'll be like, fuck, youknow, it's my day off.
I'm I'm going to stay home. Oh well, yeah.
Like, you know how hard it is toconvince me to go out just to do
a simple thing. So imagine me trying to do
something for a work event. I know, I know.
And to be fair, that's why I don't.
I don't, I don't try to get you to go out as much anymore.

(45:47):
Yeah, I don't want to say I don't invite you because that
sounds wrong, but I don't try toget you to go out.
You could say. You could say you don't invite
me. A lot of my friends don't invite
me because I don't go out, they told me.
Yeah, but I don't do that because I like to at least throw
the invite out there. I just don't go out of my way to
try to get you to come out anymore like how I used to.
I'm like, hey, I'm going to go do this.

(46:07):
And that's kind of your opportunity to be like, oh, that
sounds cool. Like can.
I now you're telling me because I've because, because and when
people tell me that I'll be likeoh, it's going to be weird if I
self invite myself. No, I've told you before that
like I'm not going to force. I have ADHD, Devin.
I forget. You don't get to use that to
make fun of me like that. That's mean and it's hurtful and

(46:28):
I'm going to be thinking about that for weeks.
Devin, you've said you said a lot worse things yesterday in
the Discord. I.
Did. Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to say
on the podcast. That's why that discord's
private, bro, you gotta get it'sa invite only, you know, 'cause
we'd be saying some stupid. Shit, we you be fucking.
Saying some stupid shit too. You'd be saying some stupid

(46:50):
shit. I only said we're going to
break, no. No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, I seriously, I have.I want to take out my clothes.
It's going to start stinking. OK, OK, OK.

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(48:16):
You know what's funny is that it's become like a meme now,
right? To be like offensive or
whatever. Remember when I used to do it
back in the day and people are genuinely getting mad at me?
Yeah. But people are are starting to
that's yeah, it's a trend. It's a trend, and it became such
a trend that I stopped hating onpeople.
That's how you know this shit's dying out because like, and this

(48:40):
is, this is not how I am anymore, people.
But I feel like when you talk about it real quick, I used to
be offensive. Very.
Offensive to the point where it became my personality and there
are pictures of me but like upside down crosses painted on
my forehead or saying hail Satan.
Why is that? What?
Why were you like that? Was it just a phase?

(49:02):
No, I mean, it just kind of became part of my personality
because I've always been into comedy and like my mom shout out
my mom. I love my mom, but she was she's
been showing me shit she shouldn't have been for as long
as I've known her since I came out the womb.
Like she was showing me Tupac when I was six years old, you
know, and she showed me the movie 300 when I was like 7 or 8

(49:26):
and so. Like I mean I I watched Emily
too when I was like 7 or 8. I know, but like traditionally,
like parents normally wouldn't let their their kids watch
people getting decapitated in movies, right?
Or watch sex scenes or whatever the fuck.
My mom didn't care because she was too busy putting food on the
table to worry about what I was watching.
So as long as I was alive, she'slike he'll figure it out.

(49:48):
And I guess I did, but it becamea core part of my personality.
So I mentioned that she showed me whatever to as contact
because then she would show me like comedians and comedians are
very influential if you don't know, because they kind of shape
the way you can think about somethings, right?
And they shaped a lot of my early perspective as a preteen

(50:10):
because I got really into comedyand I was watching a lot of
comedy specials from people are probably shouldn't have been
watching that I wasn't ready for.
You know, watching people like Jeff Dunham is probably a good
intro, right? Jim Gaffigan, like, you know,
easy comedy, comedy that, you know, old people can laugh at,
right? I was watching comedy that you
have to go to like nightclubs atlike midnight to catch just on

(50:34):
YouTube, you know, like fucked up comedy, dead baby comedy.
And it became like my standard. Like, I loved dark humor because
I got so used to it and I made that part of my personality.
So then every time I joked to people, it had to be dark.
Like it was always sexual and itwas always dark, and it would
just bleed into that. And I would test the waters to

(50:55):
see how far I could push it withpeople.
And I loved getting people offended because in my head I
was a comedian. So if they got offended, they
couldn't handle jokes. And then once I knew they
couldn't handle jokes, I startedto pester them to be annoying.
I don't know why I was like that, but that's how I was.
So like I had pictures and like images and screenshots and clips

(51:16):
of me just being offensive and trying to be as offensive as I
could be and like one of them would like.
And I used to love doing this topeople.
I would text people like random jokes, right, that were always
dark. So like when I texted my friend
and there's a dumb joke, it's not a good joke, but I texted my
friend and I was like how do youget a baby into a box?

(51:36):
Oh. A blender.
How do you get a baby out-of-the-box?
Oh. But the had chips.
It's a dumb joke. It's not.
Even funny, it's not funny. It's just to get a reaction out
of people. That's why my go to for such a
long time was how do you turn a fruit into a vegetable?
AIDS. That one actually is funny, and

(52:02):
it's you're not supposed to laugh at that because the fruit
is a derogatory term. I know for for I'm gonna say
bleep that out. I don't give a shit.
And then a vegetable is somebodywho's.
In Yeah, I know, I know. Aids and you get it from.
Supposed monkeys. Whoa, dude, you're getting

(52:23):
offensive. This is a platform anyway.
We can't just be talking how we normally talk.
That guy for monkeys. No, that was a oh, that was a,
that was a a racist propaganda. How?
Oh, it was, Yeah. Oh.
It wasn't actually like biological.
I, I thought it was like, like you actually got it from monkey.

(52:43):
Like I thought I I thought someone had intercourse with a
monkey and then that's how they got it.
That was a rumor. So.
They said the monkeys had sex with monkeys.
That's what the whole saying. They were calling black people
monkeys. OK, OK, OK.
Aids were predominantly in blackand Hispanic communities, Brown

(53:06):
people. So they're saying monkeys gave
you AIDS because they're callingmostly black people monkeys, but
also Mexicans monkeys. No, but I thought it was AIDS.
I I thought AIDS was mainly in the gay community.
It was and it still is. That's a thing.
They have to deal with that. But it started popping up in

(53:28):
black communities in the 80s, sothey blamed it on black people.
Oh, I thought it was like. That's why black people talk
about AIDS as much as they do, like in comedies and in like
songs, because it was such a bigpart of their culture at the
time, because people associated them with AIDS and crack and
everything bad and gun violence.See, I I thought that a gay dude

(53:50):
had sex with the monkey and thenthat's how AIDS became a thing.
I don't know how it became a thing specifically, but it
wasn't specifically from, you know, bestiality.
Oh. OK, it was more from people and
without getting too lost in thatconversation, they were trying
to blame black people for AIDS. Oh, OK.

(54:13):
So when you said a guy got got it from a monkey to some people,
you're not wrong. OK.
That's a difficult conversation,but whatever it people are
racist and they still are. I don't know how we got it.
We got it. We got.
So I used to say crazy things tomake people mad, and I used to

(54:34):
say things like I. I still have that one thing you
over your head that you told me.What did I tell you?
Yeah, I probably did say. That I'll believe that one out.
No, you can leave. No, I'm believe I'm bleeding it
out. Our our our sponsor.
Oh yeah, Oh no. If you're if you're struggling
with mental health issues, go tobetterhelp.com and use code

(54:56):
movement to save yourself 10% off on your first month, second
month. I don't know how I don't.
I've been so honest as I. Did we need we need to reach out
to more ads? Yeah, we got it.
We got to set that up. But yeah, if you're struggling
with your mental health or you're trying to get diagnosed
or something, you know, go to better help and they can help
you out with that. Boom.
Probably I should learn exactly what they can and can't do
before. You.

(55:16):
Yeah, Stuff they can't cure. AIDS.
That was a good one. That was a really good one.
So like when we, when we're offensive on the show and it
bleeds out a little bit, it's because that's how Eddie and I
got used to like conversing because when he met me, I was an
offensive ass kid. And we would just say fucked up
jokes to each other. And Eddie, I would say it's

(55:39):
turned out that he was able to handle most of the jokes, but
someone was stuck with them. Like the like the joke I said,
yeah, you know, but I was a Dick, dude.
I was a fucking piece of shit because I just wanted to be
offensive. I think now that it's like a
trend, I'm like, oh, let's spread positivity.
One thing I I haven't heard you use a lot is retard.

(56:05):
You say a lot. I used to say retard a lot.
I used to say like my go to words when I was in high school.
This gives you a good example ofhow it was because everybody at
our school just popularized saying it didn't matter what
color you were. And so, like, those are my main
words. Those are how I communicated

(56:26):
people. That's why everybody just got
used to. And you're right, I used to say
retard a lot. Yeah.
But I actively had to stop myself from saying that.
Now, it'll, it'll slip out in conversation from time to time,
but I try not to. I try not to say it that often
just because I know people get very sensitive over that one, so
I only say it in private areas, like on the show retard.

(56:50):
Yeah, it's up to you if you wantto leave that in, I don't really
care. But the context of the
conversation, I know most people.
Will, I'll probably cut that part out, put at the beginning
of the episode and that's going to be the first thing.
People want to go through the effort of doing that.
Whatever, man. If I made noises that were
trying to imitate people with some disabilities, that would be
too far. Yeah.

(57:12):
Although I did do that a lot in high school, you know, because I
was that kind of person. I was just AI was just a douche
bag. I'm glad you matured.
I'm glad because if if you stayed the same way as you were
in high school, I think I would have cut you off like.
Yeah, you. I would have.
I wouldn't have blamed you if you cut me off.
I think now it's a more refined offensive.

(57:34):
Yeah, but it's it's. It's a mature.
Offensive. It's a type of offensive that I
could get behind. Yeah, it's a type of offensive
where it's like I'm not going out of my way to offend people,
but they can get offended by being around me.
Yeah, I see it all the time at work, just being myself.
Yeah, I'm not even like, that's the filtered work version of me.
So imagine the unfiltered work version of me.

(57:54):
Yeah, fuck, man, I wouldn't be getting.
I wouldn't be getting anything at my work.
People would hate me. Yeah, I think I would.
I would have been fired by now if HR heard the stuff I said.
Yeah, like just both sides, likewe used to both be offensive.
You know, I, I, I used to draw swastikas on fucking.
That you're, you're like on another level.

(58:16):
You're like I used to just say the N word song.
Yeah, I used to draw swastikas on whiteboards.
I used to. I used to post crazy shit on my
Facebook feed to piss off people.
You know, I was just, I was justdifferent.
I was just different. And I still remember some of the

(58:36):
jokes that I used to say, like my first time having sex was my
first time having sex was like my first high school football
game. I was bloody and sore at the
end, but at least my dad came. Yeah, that was not that funny.
I thought it was funny when I heard it.
You know how many dead babies does it take to change a light
bulb? Isn't that Alfred's?

(59:00):
No, Alfred. Alfred gave me one that I don't
think I can repeat. Oh.
How many, Eddie? I don't know it's.
Got to be more than six because my basement's still.
Dark. See, that's not a funny joke
because there's no basements in Arizona.
Yeah, there is. There is.

(59:20):
Yeah, there's a lot of basements.
There's just not in like these houses.
Some. Some areas didn't allow for
basements, other areas did. Oh, the one Alfred told me you
have to bleep this out. No, the entire thing like the
setup, everything. Fine, starting now.
Tucson's been on fire. You know what?

(59:43):
Leave the punchline. Bleep out the setup.
Bleep out the setup. OK, no, actually, bleep out the
whole thing. We can't, we can't have any
association with that joke that that was a an hour and 3
minutes. Eddie, bleed that shit out, All
right? What do you mean Tucson's been
on fire? Let me look up the actual
statistic. Because I, I know the video you

(01:00:07):
sent me where that store was on fire and then I think I saw a
fire the other day on my way to work, Uh.
Oh no, it's work. You said work.
Yeah, as soon as I said the W word.
So on Memorial Day there were 61unknown fire types, 19 brush

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fires, 13 dumpster fires, and one large vehicle fire.
See, those are all isolated fires though.
It's not like wildfires. No, but it was all fires.
I'll wait. I'm listening.
I want to be a teacher. OK, then you can wait.
I'll wait. Don't don't act like a teacher
because then you're going to bring out the rebellious side of

(01:00:52):
me and then you're going to heatme and then I'm going to walk
out and you're going to be like,oh, he's coming back.
And then I'm like, hey, Eddie, do you want anything from the
store? You're like, wait, you left.
I'll be like, yeah, I left. You told me to leave, so I
walked out. Oh.
Don't do that. The rebellious side is still in
me. He wants to come out.
Don't give him an outlet. Eddie supposed to.
Be there's an outlet right there.

(01:01:12):
Supposed to be a good guy. Now I'm different, Eddie.
When I when I get red, when I get angry, I see red bodies
start hitting the floor. Have you ever heard a guy say
that? No dude, I've ironically heard
guys say that I'm different. When I get angry, I see red and
bodies start hitting the floor. Like just doing their best to

(01:01:33):
intimidate you and it's just fucking funny to me.
It's a meme now. If you look it up, it's a.
Meme I remember some dude was was trying to be intimidating by
barking at some other dude's face.
What? Yeah, He was like, barking,
like, woof, woof. And the other dude just laughed
and walked away. And the dude who was barking,
barking thought he did something.
So he did that. Like.

(01:01:54):
Yeah. That's so fucking stupid.
I like and I'm not, I'm not going to say his name, but it's
somebody that we're associated with.
Say his name, I'll just cut it out.
Yeah, I forget, I forget. I'm like you're editing so I
don't want to give you too much work.
Oh, OK. He, when I was at his house, you
know, we were hanging out and hehad started along the lines of

(01:02:17):
saying something like that he goes because we got into the
subject of like combat sports. And then I was telling him that
I used to box and I used to wrestle and stuff like that,
right. And then I don't know why, but I
noticed when I tell people that.Crap.
Did you block the mailbox? Yeah.
Fuck whatever, the guy could getout.

(01:02:39):
He could get out. Maybe he'll look at the car.
Maybe. Should I go out there?
I don't want him to lick my car.That's whatever.
OK, OK, So I don't know why, butI've noticed this guys get
really intimidated when you bring that kind of stuff up,
right? If they're insecure with
themselves, because they assumedthat because I boxed and that I
wrestled, I'm the best boxer andwrestler they've ever met.

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And like, I was competent at wrestling.
I was very competent at wrestling, but boxing, I didn't
have enough experience to reallygauge my level, you know?
So I just know basic stuff. And the little amount of jujitsu
I do know is not enough to like be able to brag about, right?
I just tell him as a point of conversation.
Then you'll notice if you're dealing with an insecure guy

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because then they start trying to take it and like, prove
themselves to you. Like you got to prove yourself
to me, buddy. Like I can handle myself, but
like, I'd be struggling. Like, why are you proving
yourself to me? And so then that's when it came
up. And he goes, yeah, like when I
get like, I, I, I don't have anytraining, but like, when I get
angry, like I just start, like, I just start seeing red.

(01:03:41):
And then from there, like I juststarted, like I just started
laying on people and he's like, and like bodies just start
fucking hitting the floor. Like I can't control myself.
I'm saying there and I'm like, the fuck are you talking about?
Like I didn't ask you if you hadany like experience with
fighting. I didn't even ask you if you
like fighting or anything. I, we were, we were, you were

(01:04:01):
asking me about my wrestling. I didn't even get to tell you
about that because now you're you're trying to compensate for
something. I if I, I I've met a lot of
insecure guys and I don't talk to them.
I can't. I can't.
I can't just like I just can't talk to insecure people.
But OK, what are your what are the things that you notice that
makes a guy insecure? Because these are things we
could probably call out to help some dudes out.

(01:04:22):
There trying to one up you that.Was quick.
Like my Co worker, the one I have now, I.
Is he A1 upper? He tries to be.
He figured. I figured he was A1 upper.
He tries to be like, I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm into movies.
Like, Oh yeah, I have like 800 movies collected.
I have, I've collected over 800 movies on Blu-ray.

(01:04:43):
I have in my home. I'm like, oh, OK, cool.
And then he's like, Oh yeah, I also make music.
But this job, like I can't do itanymore.
I can't make music anymore. I'm like, all right.
And then he'll be like, oh, yeah, I, I just watched this,
the three new movies at the movie theatre, at this specific
theatre that no one knows about.I'm like, all right.
It's probably the Loft. It was a lot, yeah.

(01:05:05):
For going to the loft, yeah. Loft sucks ass.
Don't go to the loft. Never been there.
I haven't betrayed Harkins. Don't betray Harkins.
I betrayed Harkins and I, I feelguilty over it.
I went to the loft expecting this magnificent, magnificent
experience and bleep this part out too.
I'm sorry, just bleep it out. It was just UN bleep and I just

(01:05:29):
didn't have a good time there and because of the staff because
of like how they're currently going through construction.
So like there is no hallway to get to our theater so we had to
buy all of our food at the frontand then walk out to the street
and then walk along the sidewalknext.
To traffic. And then walk to the back of the
theater. And as soon as we had to do

(01:05:49):
that, I was like, fuck this. I told my brother I was like,
I'm sorry, bro. He's all let's just watch the
movie. He's like, this place sucks and
we're never going back there. He was telling me that there is
a a a protest outside of that. Why?
Because I guess they're supporting Palestine or it was,
it was a part of that. It makes sense for that for.

(01:06:09):
That now she's telling me that like the type people who work
there and go there, I'm like, oh, it makes sense.
It makes sense. It's very inclusive I'm.
Trying to say or progressive. Progressive, inclusive and
progressive. OK.
Harkins is inclusive in a different way because.
But it's a franchise. Yeah, they let everybody in.
Yeah, you know, they don't care.You know, that's that's

(01:06:31):
inclusive to me. Regardless, we're getting on the
wrong shit so. But yeah, that that like, like
that one uppers. I, I will just paint it as like
the guys who need to justify themselves because like I can't
give you specific examples because there's too many, but
like if they need a, they need to tell you about themselves and

(01:06:52):
they need to bring shit up for you to like, OK, here's here's
what I mean. I met a confident dude recently
and I made a lot of insecurity. So I, I can compare the 2,
right? I met this guy through a mutual
friend of mine, right? And he didn't give me any
context about this dude. He just told me like, hey, I
want you to meet some of my friends, yadda yadda.
And I was like, very cool. So I met him with the group,

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right? So I'm meeting the whole group,
we're having fun, we're getting to know each other, it's cool.
They're all great guys. And there's this one guy that I
just kept talking to because he was next to me the whole time
and I didn't think anything of it.
I was like, oh, he's cool. And he's like he we're talking
about cars a little bit and theyhonestly, he kind of he kind of
made me re examine how I approach myself to strangers

(01:07:35):
because I feel like I came in with a little bit of an ego over
stupid shit, right? And so he helped humble me
because then I'm talking to him.We're talking about cars, we're
talking about like what we do for work.
And I didn't bring up the podcast.
He didn't bring up what he did for work.
I didn't even bring up like a bleep that out.
Oh shit. But.
Hopefully I catch up on what time is it.

(01:07:56):
Bleep it out. Bleep it out, Eddie.
If you missed it, go back, but Ididn't bring up any of that
stuff, right? We were just talking and he
didn't bring up any of his stuff.
We were just talking, making jokes, trying to be offensive,
whatever, right And then we saidgoodbye and then I was telling
him about my car and he was like, oh, that's cool.
And I was like, thanks, Manny. I like and some other guys were

(01:08:16):
what you have that car. So then like it turns into a
mini conversation. Then I leave.
I find out the next day that this dude, like, it's like one
of those situations where you meet a CEO who's acting like a
janitor because then he was way more like well off than I had
expected him to be. He had a a very successful

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Instagram page with 10s of thousands of followers.
He was a professional photographer for cars on the
side. And he's travelled the world
taking pictures of cars and meeting very famous people in
the car industry. And he has a very cool car.
It's a Mercedes GLSI think GLS no S class S class something I

(01:09:03):
don't know, I'm not familiar a Mercedes, but he has a Mercedes,
a very expensive car with a bunch of mods to it.
And I was like, what the fuck? Like I was shocked because he
didn't mention any of this and he didn't feel the need to brag
and bring up all his stuff. Like he was well off and he knew
he was well off, so he was confident and secure with
himself. He didn't bring up his car to

(01:09:25):
Flex. He didn't bring up his job to
Flex. He didn't bring up his
travelling to Flex. He didn't bring up his
connections to Flex. He didn't bring up his, you
know, his photography of his Instagram page, his followers,
none of that. I didn't know anything about
this dude except like what he told me, right.
And I guess our most recent guests are pretty similar to

(01:09:45):
that, where it's like they have very successful things going on,
but that's not the focal point of our conversations.
Like I make it a focal point when they're on the show.
But like when I went to go visitAngel the other day, we just
talked about cars for like an hour and a half, cars and
caffeine and editing and stuff. But like, we weren't talking
about in a dude. How'd you get your subscribers?
I'm trying to like yadda, yadda,yadda.

(01:10:06):
It was just two guys hanging outtalking, you know, and that's
what I mean versus an insecure guy.
Let's use our the, the, the guy from earlier to get that out.
But as soon as you meet him, he tells you about his car from the
very first conversation, he tells you about his car.

(01:10:27):
Even if you're not into cars andhe'll tell you everything that's
been done to the car and what he's planning on doing to the
car. And I can get over it.
If it was just like he had an appreciation for cars and he
just like talking about it. That's what he was comfortable
talking about, like video games.But he talks about it in a way
like, Hey, I'm cooler and betterthan you because of my car.

(01:10:47):
And it's not even a car worth bragging about.
Like, I don't want to say it because it's it'll docks him a
little too much, but it's not. Trust me, it's not a car that
you go home and brag about. Let's just say it's something
like a Honda Civic that's just modded out.
Oh, OK. And I'm like.
It's a very basic car. It's not basic.

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It is like it is a sports coupe,but it's like it's not a sports
coupe that anybody wants, so to speak.
And I'm not trying to hate. I'm just being honest.
Like it's not a very popular carin the car community, right?
It has its fans, but it's very like low on the hype scale, I
guess, compared to like a Supra,right, or a fucking skyline.
So like, it's not like the end all be all of cars.

(01:11:31):
But the way he talks about it isthat it is.
And the way he talks about it and the way he sets up the
conversation is like, this is something he needs to talk
about, right? And those are two examples of
two extremes where this guy, youknow, has an amazing life and
just doesn't talk about it because he's confident with
himself. And a guy who thinks that he has

(01:11:52):
a not a good life and talks about it in a way to get
sympathy from other people, you know, and those are the insecure
guys. Another thing that I thought
about is loud. If guys are loud, then they're
insecure. What if they're just loud by
nature? I I think it's, it's, it's a
case by case basis. What do you?

(01:12:13):
Mean like when you when you're saying loud.
So like, let's say we're in our industry work, we have to be
kind of inside voices like how we are right now.
If someone if there's a cute girl down down the aisle, he'll
purposely be loud trying to get her attention like your Co
worker. Yeah no, no, he doesn't do that.
I. Like the guy that you're.

(01:12:35):
Referring to No, no, not not him, I it's just I've seen it
with. No, I mean like the the fake guy
that you're using is the example.
Yeah, the guy. Will start trying to be Yeah, he
he'll see a cute girl and and belike, Oh yeah, Eddie.
Yep. Uh huh.
Or you know what I think this is?
I think girls have a term for this.
They call them pick me girls. And it's basically just girls

(01:12:55):
that are annoying to other girlsbecause the only thing they're
obsessed with is guys, right? They just want all the guys,
right? And when I think about insecure
guys, they kind of sound like pick me guys.
Yeah. Because all the pick me guys are
just trying to make themselves as attractive as possible to the
opposite sex. So it's like example A, I see

(01:13:16):
red, I'm going to drop bodies tothe floor.
Like I'll defend you, I'll take care, I'll kill people for you.
Exhibit B Being very loud and performative whenever there's a
girl in the vicinity laughing extra loud for no reason.
Or or even. It doesn't have to be a girl it
it could be someone of importance or something.
Even that too, yeah, they need that.
They need the the. The gratification or the

(01:13:37):
satisfaction? Yeah.
That's. That's the word satisfaction.
No satisfaction satisfy. Satisfication.
Yeah, it's a word. No, satisfication is not a word.
That is. I feel stupid, Eddie.
I feel like, is it satisfied? Is it just satisfied?

(01:13:59):
Satisfication. Hey Siri, is satisfication a
word? Yes, satisfaction.
Satisfaction, God damn it, you fucking idiot dude.
God damn it, so I was the word is correct.
Yeah, I was saying that's. I was like it don't sound right.

(01:14:20):
I I saw the word like I've seen the word.
The satisfaction of getting likeattention from other people or
validation from other people. That's the thing.
If they need validation from outside sources, don't interact
with that person. They have to be confident in
themselves. So yeah, pick me, boys.
Yeah. They need the boss to like them.
They need the friend. They need to be the coolest in

(01:14:41):
the friend group, the smartest in the friend group, the leader
of the friend group. They need all the girls.
The alpha male, they have to be the.
Yeah, they have to be the quote UN quote alpha male, which
you're fucking awesome, Eddie, because I just recently found
out that alphas are a myth in the animal Kingdom and in human
nature and across the board. There is no such thing as an

(01:15:05):
alpha anything. There's no alpha wolfs, no alpha
giraffes, no alpha man, no alphawhatever, no alpha dinosaurs,
even dinosaurs, they didn't havealphas.
There is no hierarchy where there's betas and alphas and
charlies. That was not.
What about it? There's no hierarchy that's ever
existed that had betas and alphas in it.
Now, there is a point to be madeabout followers and you know,

(01:15:27):
leaders, but that's something else entirely.
I don't think, I think that's more of a situational basis
where it's like this person is set up to be the leader because
of this, this and this. It's not even like, oh, you're
the most dominant, you're the leader.
You get all the pussy. Because I wouldn't trust the
Chad who spends all his time in the gym to lead us through a

(01:15:49):
jungle. I would trust the dorky nature
guy that's been reading, you know, Jungle Books his whole
life. You're the leader now lead us.
You know, it's just situational.So alphas don't actually exist,
which ties into this. So if a guy is trying to like be
an alpha and he tells everybody he's an alpha, he's the most
insecure person in the room. OK.

(01:16:10):
I also told that to somebody else, like if you see somebody
who's like extremely shredded orlike somebody who has an amazing
body, like First off, congratulate them on their body
because they worked very hard toget that.
Second off, you know in the backof your head that they're
they're very insecure. I've never met somebody who's
really into the gym or really passionate about the gym and

(01:16:31):
being healthy and who isn't at least a little bit insecure.
Almost all of them are insecure and were insecure at one point.
That's why they got into the gym.
That's also something to know. Personally, I wouldn't
congratulate someone on their body, that's just going to feed
their feed their ego more. It depends on the person, but
like if it comes up and they tell you like I was really

(01:16:52):
skinny, I had a eating disorder.Oh, then yeah.
But like, but like, if it's a stranger and you want to go up
to him and tell him, hey, you have a Yeah.
On the Boulevard of Broken Dreams.
You know what song I absolutely hate by Green Day 21?
Guns. Me too.
Anybody plays that song, I get. One irritated 21 guns.

(01:17:16):
It's a shitty song, and just because of the context and the
meaning of the song doesn't makeit good.
It's a shitty overall song. It's composed horribly, the
vocals suck, it's mixed poorly. I don't like it.
The song's terrible, it's ass, Ihate it.
That song's fucking disgusting. Just like 21.
Pilots I I just don't. I just don't like Green Day in

(01:17:37):
general. Nah, Green Day's got some
bangers but they also have some shit songs like 21 Guns.
Like the only song I can get behind is Holiday.
Holiday Brain Stew Blvd. of Broken Dreams.
There's a lot there, There's a lot there.
They have some amazing bangers. They also have 21 guns though,
and 21 pilots. Doesn't have a single good song.

(01:17:59):
No, you just, it's just at that point, it's just on Eddie,
you've. Tested me countless times.
Countless times you have put on their songs without me knowing,
and every single time I'm like, this song fucking sucks.
And every time you're all huh, Ithought I was going to get you.
Yeah, that's 21 pilots. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I could

(01:18:19):
tell. It's fucking.
Trash, yeah, but but they're Thething is with them, they already
have developed their sound if they're still trying to find
their sound. So the same with the Green Day.
It's just they they found their sound and sometimes they lean
too into I guess the Americana of it and it ruins it for me.
It just ruins. What do you mean Americana?

(01:18:40):
It's it's all subgenre of culture that I won't get into.
There's different. Brands, because I've seen it on
the Spotify, like it'll say #Americana half hashtag soul,
click it. Just OK, you'll get an idea of
what I mean by clicking. It OK.
Anyways, insecure dudes don't hang out with them.

(01:19:02):
Alpha males don't exist. Pick me boys don't hang out with
them. If he says phrases along the
lines of I used to get into a lot of fights when I was a kid,
or I used to be a bad boy in school, or I was a rebel, or I
almost got arrested once, or just things that you can't
really prove that sound cool, don't hang out.

(01:19:25):
There it says. Things like bodies hit the floor
when I get mad, don't. Hang out there was this one that
I heard a lot in college. I think it was I'm I'm dark.
How is it it had to do something?
Fake depression. I'm dark there's.
A darkness inside of. Me.

(01:19:46):
Yeah, it was something like that.
There's a darkness inside of me that you wouldn't want to see.
I hate that one. I want to be.
Creative. That.
It was something like that. If they say something along the
lines of there's a darkness inside of me you can't handle or
that you don't want to see, yeah, if I let it out, it
changes who? I yeah, yeah, yeah.
You fucking werewolf want to be fucked?

(01:20:07):
Shut up. Shut up.
Oh my God, I'm sorry if you say that.
You've said that. Don't.
First off, this is your chance to change.
No one's going to know. It's just between us.
If you know somebody like that and they're your friend, be a
good friend and slap them acrossthe mouth.
And if you know somebody like that that's not your friend, cut
off ties. Just they need to work their

(01:20:30):
shit out, you know? Let them come back to you when
they figured out the darkness. Yeah, how do we get from?
Hold on, I'm still on. I know people who say that we're
so dark. They're like, I have a darkness
inside of me you can't handle. Why would you bring that up that
they brought up like trauma, Eddie, There's a lot.

(01:20:54):
There's a lot. You should.
You guys should just be able to know.
Like, yeah. It's cool or not, you know when.
They're I, I I want to know justnot to feed my ego.
Just have a pure curiosity if people think I'm insecure or if
you're insecure. Like just based off first
interactions 'cause I feel like if I ask people they it would

(01:21:16):
probably lie to me. Hold on, let me think.
Let me think. OK, I can give you an honest
answer here. Whenever people have told me
that they talk to you and that they met you because I'm trying
to analyze it through, like, your recent job, right?
Because I know so many people. Yeah.
It's always been like, Eddie's really cool.
Eddie's really chill type of a thing.

(01:21:36):
I get that a lot, yeah. But.
I, you're very chill. And so you come across as like,
I would say like centered, like you got your shit together type
of a thing and you know your boundaries and you either accept
it or you don't. And for the most part people
accept it cuz you have like a, you have a mindset that a lot of
people like or want to like or want to be like.

(01:22:00):
And so because of that, a lot ofpeople like like you.
Right. Like here's an example, Jason
Satham, right? He has a mindset and all of his
movies that a lot of guys especially would, you know, want
to emulate and want to be like. Yeah, he's a badass.
Right. And Chris Pratt has the same

(01:22:21):
kind of thing, but his is more dorky, right?
And so a certain other kind of demographic of guys want to be
like Chris Pratt. I want to like talk like Chris
Pratt. And I will put you in that Chris
Pratt category. You have a personality that
other guys like or can respond to, and so the guys that like it
like it, and the people that like it like it.

(01:22:42):
But then there are other people who might see you and go, oh,
he's annoying you. Know yeah, so.
For the people that do like you,I think you come across as like
centered, cool, chill and likeable.
It's because I get that a lot. I'm when people, when I ask
people, what were your first impressions of me, people say
I'm chill, I'm just cool. I'm like, that's, that's such a

(01:23:03):
basic adjective. Say you're just lying to me.
I, I, I I don't. Think that's a lie?
I think it's just because you'rejust a chill guy.
You. Know I know I'm a chill guy but
like. Like in a sense, I'm not trying
to diss you here, but you don't do too much, You're not
performative, you don't bring attention to yourself.
I'm I'm you said it before, I'm subtle.

(01:23:25):
You're subtle, right? So the only impression they can
really pull away is that he's true.
That's true because what are they supposed to say?
Like, oh, the way you cussed out, that manager was
aggressive, like you, you, you're.
Persistent No. But I, I, I'm expecting more
like, oh, you're quiet, you're shy.
But like, it's, it's. But you don't come across as
shy. Yeah, you meet people for the

(01:23:45):
first time. You.
You never come. Across really.
Yeah, I, I, I think I'm fucking shy.
Here's an example. All right, I'll give you true
shy versus you're shy. You can be shy because your
version of how you normally are compared to how you meet people.
You're like, I'm not acting likemyself, I'm acting shy.
But let me tell you from an outsider's perspective, right?

(01:24:07):
So like my brother just recentlymet a family acquaintance and he
hadn't met him before but like they interacted solo right?
My brother didn't look at him, didn't say one word to him,
pretended that he didn't see him, pretended that he didn't
exist and walked away, right? He couldn't deal with it and
just left the social situation. He was in a social situation for

(01:24:28):
about 3 minutes total and for the entire time he was there he
didn't look, talk, engage or do anything.
He was like this, turned around and walked away.
Same thing happened with Kyle when he met the same person,
right? Kind of like, shrank into
himself, no disrespect. And then kind of like, avoided
it. Those are shy.
That's shy. You meet people and you're all,

(01:24:50):
hey, what's up? I'm Eddie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you're just hanging out
there, like you might not be talking and you're just throwing
in a couple Yas and Sure's or whatevers, but you're still
engaging and you're gauging enough to the point where people
are like, I feel comfortable with him, but I don't have an
impression of him. OK.

(01:25:11):
So the only thing they're left with is chill.
They're like, yeah, he was chill.
He made me laugh a couple of times.
And look at him with the Aaron and Kangel.
Like Aaron and Kangel. Who the fuck are those people,
David? Karen and Angel, and when they
came over and we were interacting with them in the
beginning of podcasts. What?

(01:25:33):
And I'll use Karen Moore as an example because we haven't seen
or talked to her for years. Right.
Yeah. Was there any point in that
interaction where you were, like, super shy?
Yeah, no. Well, maybe internally, but
like, externally, like, especially from my perspective,
you were in there like swimwear,especially in the beginning.

(01:25:54):
You're interacting, you're talking to them, you're asking
them questions, you're saying jokes, you're playing along with
my bits off podcast. And on podcast, you instantly
opened it up with like gay jokesand like you're hugging them.
And so like from their perspective, like, oh, Eddie's
not shy. So then when you're talking to
them later and you're all, yeah,I'm shy.
If you guys couldn't tell, like you wouldn't have to tell them

(01:26:14):
you're shy. They would know you're shy.
It's almost like, and I'm not trying to disrespect, but it's
almost like you want to be shy because you like the perception
of shy guys. No, I think I, I, I, I say that
because I, I want them to failedthe expectation that they
already have over the show. Like if, if, if people listen to
the show and then meet me, they think Eddie's going to be funny

(01:26:38):
100% of the time. He's going to be saying dad
jokes every single line. So I I I don't want to
disappoint that expectation. No, no, I don't think anybody
truly thinks that they know thatwe're performative to an extent
on the show, especially you, if they know you in real life.
But you being performative on the show and reserved in real
life isn't you being shy. If anything, in real life,

(01:27:01):
you're more mature, you're more calm.
And that's how I would describe you to people.
I would say he's calm and he's reserved, but I would never
describe you as shy. I would describe my brother as
shy 100%, you know? Yeah, as shy I would describe,
you know, my ex-wife even, because she was a great example

(01:27:21):
of being shy. But.
You are more reserved, more calmand more.
Chill. Not chill more.
There's a word avoidive. Like you avoid it, but you're
not shy. Oh, OK.
That's how I would describe you and like to me from outsiders
perspective, like with them meaning you like you don't give

(01:27:42):
out the impression. Like for example, when I met
your sister's boyfriend, the whole reason he liked me is
because you guys were all there and hyping me.
Not hyping me up but like givingme material to be funny.
Yeah, but that's the thing, likea shy person.
Like again, my brother was active that night, but because

(01:28:03):
he was drinking the whole night,so he was.
When he drinks, he becomes social.
But like, if he wasn't there andit was just me talking to you or
whatever, it doesn't matter if he's there or not.
If it was him in that seat, do you think he would have made a
single joke the way you did? No, I don't think so.
Because he's shy. If I was in that seat, do you
think I would have made jokes? Yeah, exactly.

(01:28:23):
So what? Do you really think you're truly
shy, or do you think you're justmore calm?
I think I'm more calm. I think I was.
I think I was. I think I was misconstruing
those two. And you are introverted by
nature, but you know how to be social, right?
Yeah, you're more introverted, but you still have a lot of
extrovert in you. I'm more extroverted by stuff, a

(01:28:46):
lot of introverted, right? And that's how it is for
everybody. Like you're not just one thing,
and you're never the other thingtoo.
Right. So like, there are moments when
you're shy, just like there are moments when I'm shy, but you're
not shy by nature. You're calm by nature.
You're reserved by nature. OK.
But I've definitely seen you turn it on when you're
screaming. When we meet people.
You're what? I'm Eddie.

(01:29:06):
Calm down. Calm down.
You're damn it to you. I'm like, calm, dude.
I get it. Chill out.
And you're like freaking out. So no, I don't think you're shy.
Oh OK, I think you're chill. OK, basic ass fucking adjective.
Do you think like and come on, do you really think I'm shy?
Fuck, no, no, I I think you're very vocal.

(01:29:29):
You're vocal. You're very, what's the word
social? No, not social.
You're I don't, I don't want to say too much.
Performative. No, you're like, I think you try

(01:29:51):
to test people right off the batto see if they can handle you
and you can handle them. What do?
You mean very very broad examplebut you'll be like Oh yeah
what's up? My name is Devin.
Also I ran away from a cop like 5 minutes ago.
I haven't known to do. Stuff like that or like, my

(01:30:14):
name's Devin. Yeah, I have this podcast.
It's awesome. We have like a million followers
or whatever. Yeah.
Let's say. Something like you, you, you.
I don't want to. I don't know if that's really
testing though, no. No, no.
But I think it was like you try to, you try to give them your
first outlandish story to see how they would react.

(01:30:36):
But I don't. Always do that.
No, you always do. But I've seen you do it.
I've also seen you do it like I lost my train of thought.
Is your mom home? No, I heard that too though,
like something drag. I keep hearing footsteps.

(01:31:03):
Me too, I kept I heard somethingdrag like if you're dragging
like a thing on the ground. Yeah, it sounded like your mom
was walking like in chunk Labs and then she like dragged her
foot on one step and then kept walking.
Are you sure it wasn't my foot? Because I've been like tapping
my foot. Do that.
No, it came from the hallway. That's weird.
I've been like, and it stops andthen it picks up.

(01:31:24):
But like, I keep hearing somebody walk by and then it
stops and it's very, very subtle, like.
No, I, I, I heard. Like this is this is what it
sounds like exactly, but imagineit coming from outside.
Is it now a chair? No, it I hear it from this

(01:31:45):
direction, I hear it from outside, like beyond the wall,
and I hear it going down the hall, back and forth.
You probably just hear my mom like since we're always
recording in in the. Yeah, that's what it like.
It sounds exactly like your mom.Because we're recording at what,
9 AM, 10 AM, Nine AM, 10 AM. 10 AM Holy shit how long is this

(01:32:05):
episode? Holy fuck it's an hour 30.
That's it. I thought it was a lot longer,
yeah. Well, we could start wrapping it
up in like 15. Yeah, but that was weird.
It sounds like that that that tripped me out.
We're going to investigate afterthis.
It's. Going to be gone by then.
Your house might be haunted dude.
I definitely just heard something fucking.
My house is haunted, it's just not all the time.

(01:32:30):
No, that's how hauntings are. But if you ask the people who
live in the houses, it's 24/7. Yeah, but back, back, back to
you. You're.
There's this word that I had, but you're, you're very.
I keep thinking of the word too much, but it's not too much.
It's more like. Overwhelming.

(01:32:53):
In a sense, because I've met people who who said that you
were like out there, like very, very, yeah, overwhelming.
Well, I think we both know now it's the ADHD.
Yeah, because I actually met somebody too.
He as soon as he introduced himself, he was like, hey, I
have ADHD. So just to warn you, I was like,

(01:33:16):
I don't care bro. By the end.
And his is like way worse than mine.
And then by the end I was like, dude, that guy's overwhelming.
Like I felt overwhelmed. And I, you can usually keep up
with those guys. I was like, holy fuck.
Like I, I'm OK if I don't talk to him for a while, you know?
No, but yeah, like it's, it's a lot of, it's a lot of that.

(01:33:37):
Like Devin's a lot. He's very sexual that I've I've
got got that a lot too. Like I said, I used to play into
it a lot. Yeah, I used to play into it
like with every conversation. Now I don't even talk about it
in regular day-to-day stuff. I haven't I haven't seen you
introduce yourself or we I haven't been in the room where
you met a new person, so I can't.

(01:33:59):
Well, let's use the again the the interview as a as a good
example. Two years ago, I would have
asked him the famous question. Where's the craziest thing?
Where's the craziest place you had sex at?
Yeah. Yeah, which, you know, is a fun
question or whatever, but it's not appropriate for every
conversation. This time around.
I didn't even ask. I didn't even ask them about
anything. And every time they did allude

(01:34:19):
to like something like, you know, intimate, I would switch
the conversation even if it was just an, a, an allude, you know,
even if they're just dancing around it.
Like I just, I've changed my perspective, so to speak.
So, you know, you're right aboutthat.
Yeah. But for the most part, there's
only been a can night less than a handful of people who've had

(01:34:42):
bad experiences with you off thebat.
No, I'm sure there's more. Maybe they just don't tell you.
Yeah, maybe. Very controversial.
You either like me off the bat or you don't.
That's why, like, every time we had conversations with people,
they're all, yeah, Eddie's my favorite host and like, I would
get pissed off, but I'm like, well, it does make sense.
Like in a way, you're like IHOP,you're very inviting to

(01:35:07):
everybody, right? Whereas with me, I'm much more
like the the company I work for.If you don't like us, you don't
give a fuck. Very standoff.
That was very two different company, I tell you, going to be
like, yeah, you're like IHOP. Fast food place that does that
because no fast food. Places like, yeah, I thought
you're going to. I thought you're going to be
like, yeah, you're like IHOP andI'm like Waffle House.

(01:35:27):
But like, what's a place like? You like us or you don't?
There's no fast food place that does that.
They're all trying to get you. To buy Arby's.
I don't want to say we have meatlike I'd rather I'll go Carl's
junior. OK, no, Carl's Junior is good.
I feel like I'll say Burger King.
Burger King. I think I like the big four.

(01:35:48):
Burger King is like the my latest favorite Burger King.
That's my favorite. Or Wendy's.
Let's go with Wendy's. I think Wendy's Wendy's a safe
bet but. I don't want to be Wendy's.
I'll be Burger King. OK?
I like Burger King. You either like me or you don't.
OK, I'll, I'll be jack-in-the-box.
Oh, jack-in-the-box is awesome. You're like McDonald's.
Everybody kind of loves you and they have like complicated
relationships. And also because I have

(01:36:09):
McDonald's a lot and I'm fat. But you're like McDonald's
because you like market yourselfto everybody.
I'm Burger King. I market myself to the people
that like me. You know, true.
Like at BK, have it your way. Like it's like if you like BK,
you can have it like however youwant.
Pods. Maybe they are trying to invite

(01:36:30):
everybody, I don't know. But yeah.
You're like Celsius. I'm like monster.
Let's do that. OK, Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's.
Do that. That makes it simple.
Very open to everybody. Monster traditionally is like,
if you don't like us, we don't care.
So there you go. Yeah.
I guess I'll cut it out. You gotta cut out that little.

(01:36:52):
Section. Yeah, it's starting now.
We're back. This is gonna be a weird cuddy.
Yeah, you. Pause.
That sounds weird too. Yeah, I know I pissed people off
and in the past, like I would play into it.
Now I don't play into it, but I don't worry about it because it
saves me time in the long run. Because if you don't like me off
the bat, then we don't have to get to know each other and waste

(01:37:13):
our time getting to know each other.
Have you ever met someone who's like, the most likeable, like
everyone loves but you fucking hate?
Oh, I should have waited for youto finish that.
There is a lot of quote, UN quote popular kids at our high
school that I don't know the names of, but I remember the
faces of. And there's a lot of them that
just like everybody had nothing bad to say about.

(01:37:35):
And I know their faces and thankfully I don't know their
names, so I don't call them out.But I just like, for whatever
reason, I just didn't like them because I'm in my head.
I was a weird kid. And even though I have friends
like Borquez who tried to tell me that I wasn't a weird kid, I
was a popular kid. Yeah, I know, you know, And
everybody that knew me know, knew that I was a weird kid.

(01:37:58):
Yeah, I just had popular friends.
But nobody wanted to be my friend.
Everybody wanted to be their friends.
Mike's a good example. You you were just a background
character. Me and Mike were dogs, right?
But in everybody's story, I was Mike's sidekick.
I was his background character. I was just his friend.
Everybody wanted to be friends with Mike.
Nobody wanted to be friends withme, right?
That's a good example. So there were a lot of popular

(01:38:22):
kids that I saw that I'm like, if you're as nice as people say
you are, then how come you neverlike say hi to us?
You know, us weird kids like if you're as cool and friendly,
like how come you only hang out with like the pretty people, the
popular me too. And just because of that, like I
just had a dislike towards them.I had a bad taste in my mouth.
I was like, you guys like look down on us almost.

(01:38:43):
And I can see you guys like pointing and laughing at us
sometimes. So I don't think you're as nice
as people try to make you out tobe.
And I don't, I don't want to associate with you.
Plus in all the teen movies, allthe popular kids are like,
Dicks. Yeah.
So you never want to be friends with them.
So that, yeah, there's a lot of popular kids that a lot of
people, like that said, were super nice that I didn't like.
And there were some that I didn't know who appeared to be

(01:39:05):
nice, who were actually really, really fake and, like, showed it
to me. And I was like, oop, Nope, Nope,
Nope. You're a snake hiding in the
grass. Fuck that.
So yeah, there's a lot. What about?
You yeah, I've I've met a few, but.
Anybody that sticks out I guess.Yeah, a couple girls, but I
think that's, I think they probably had the mind so that I

(01:39:27):
was trying to get at them. I mean, they all did.
They all had them. Yeah, Which was partly true.
No, but I was also unjustified. Yeah, but I wasn't trying to get
at them. I was trying to ask him for a
pencil. Yeah, but they like, in their
head, they're like, he's trying to ask for a pencil so that he
could be my friend. And then a couple of months
later, he's going to confess hislove to me because they went

(01:39:49):
through that exact same thing being three different times
back-to-back. And partly in your head, let's
be honest, Like, you're out. That's a pretty girl.
You know, I could ask her for a pencil, or I can ask the weird
guy next to me. I'm going to ask the pretty
girl. I did that shit all the time
too. We all did.
No, no, no, but I seriously, I didn't find them attractive like

(01:40:10):
I still have. I know who if I show you a
picture, you're going to be likeher and.
I probably would, because I'd probably be like, she really
thinks she's it, huh? She really thinks she's her.
Yeah, she really thinks she's her.
Anyways, I think that's a good way to start wrapping this up.
I didn't touch any of my topics.Neither did I.
Because today it was like a bullshit episode.

(01:40:30):
I've been holding in a fart thisentire time.
I'm like, I can't do it to you, but I can't.
So like, it'll go away and it'llcome back.
I'm like, I'm not going to fart in this room.
I know how my farts are. They they, they stay between me
and the Lord. You know, that's not something I
share with people. Anyways.
Do you have anything you want toadd, say, at the end of this
episode? Yeah, hold on.
This has been a real big discussion about about like

(01:40:54):
what? Masculinity.
Alpha males, pick me guys, insecure guys, us.
The perception of meeting peoplefor the first time.
Yeah. It's been really informative.
I like this episode. Me too.
So what do we start with? I don't remember what we talked
about in the. Beginning me kissing your wife.

(01:41:15):
Oh, hey, yeah, I should have brought that.
Up. But yeah, the thing I want to
add is 6 + 3 = 9. Why did you show me the
calculator? Like I wasn't going to believe
you. You like, show me the calculator
like like, hey Devin, like just in case you don't believe me.
I failed math three times in college.

(01:41:36):
I could see that. I could see that.
Sorry about that. All right.
As far as my thing goes, I don'tknow, man.
I just hope you guys have a great day then fucking take some
time off. I feel like a lot of us are
really stressed out right now. We're probably feeling
overwhelmed. This is, I'm just going to throw
this out there because I was feeling this way.

(01:41:57):
A lot of people are feeling thisway.
And I don't know if this is a universal, you know, Mercury and
retrograde thing, right, Eddie? But.
You mimicked me when I said thatI.
Didn't I Didn't mimic you. But you know, let's be inclusive
here. So if you're feeling like
underappreciated, overlooked, overwhelmed, you feel like you
don't have anybody in the world,you feel like left out people

(01:42:19):
don't want to be with you, like you're burdened, you're just fed
up, just take some time off. A lot of people are feeling like
that right now, myself included,Eddie included.
And we're all kind of just like collectively realizing like we
haven't given ourselves a chanceto be set.
And even though we feel like we don't deserve it, everybody
that's feeling that way currently deserves.

(01:42:39):
So just give yourself some time.Take some time off of work,
relax this weekend, drink some wine, watch the TV, do whatever
you want to do, even if it's badfor you.
Just give yourself an opportunity to relax, be safe,
and get some fucking pussy. Let's go.
Or Dick.

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