Episode 118: Should We Make The Future Better?

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So to switch it up, since you normally open it up and then I
lead us, I'm going to open it upand then you lead us.
OK, OK, I forgot the joke. I open shit, I don't forget the
jokes. You usually pull it up.
Can I pull it up? Pull.
It up. All right, pull.

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It up, you holster. Oh Jesus, that's a lot of music.
All right, chill out, chill out.God damn it, what do you want
from me, man? I'm talking sorry, sorry, sorry
the. The hell was that?
What did I do? Sorry, I crashed out for no
reason. Oh, man, I'm talking.

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I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep talking.
OK, I got my job. Why are telephone poles
separated so far apart? Why?
No guesses. Well, I, I, I had to do
something. I, I don't know telephone lines.
I know how to do with that. It's so black people can't swing

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to work in the morning and they have to buy a car like everyone
else. I mean, you're right, it is very
dark out there. At night it's very dark.
What is that? What does that have to do with

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the buying a car? It being dark.
I I thought, I thought you were trying to make a racist work
like. A it, yeah, yeah, I know.
It was. Yeah, it was, it was, yeah,
yeah. That that was a joke.
That was a joke. Yeah.
Is it more racist? Than Oh my God, you don't get
it. I'm saying I don't.

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I don't understand why you said it's very dark out there.
That's why I'm confused. I'm like, what are you talking
about? It's very dark.
It's what I said. They have to buy a car, so now
they have to buy a car like everyone else.
Re say the joke. Why are the telephone?
Polite. So separated, yeah.

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Why so black people can't swing to work in the morning?
Because. They have to buy cars I I don't
fucking get. It I'm saying so now they have
to buy cars like everyone else. I don't Why are you so confused?
Why don't they just steal them? Oh, that's a good that's a good
addition. Yeah, that's a good addition.
But but, but, but why do you think they started stealing
them? Because they weren't gonna pay

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for that when they could have just swing to work the whole
time. When I just introduced the show.
Why? I don't understand why you're so
confused. How did the joke confuse you?
Are you OK? I could I I you just added the
cart thing out of nowhere like it would have been perfect if if
you said it just continue it just stuck the stuck the episode

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then. You're supposed to introduce the
show. Oh, we are.
Yeah. You remember?
Yeah. You're.
Supposed. To OK, welcome to.
Welcome back to the Movement podcast.
Oh. You're just you weren't going to
continue. It no, no, I was going to say
that and then I'm Devin. That's Eddie.

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Wait, wait, wait. I'm Eddie.
That's Devin. Why are you so nervous?
Are you? OK, I I feel spotlight.
Just relax and I. Feel like there's a light coming
in through the window and it's on.
Me. We're not.
You've been doing this for like,going on three years now.
The shadows like Batman. Yeah.
You have not been in the shadows.
It's just you place yourself in the shadows and you think that I

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put you there. So I'm giving you an opportunity
to come out like. Rick James bitch.
There you go. Where we're.
So this episode we're experimenting.
We're letting Eddie kind of leadus here and he's getting stage
fright. It's alright.
It's the same people. Everyone naked.
I don't. I don't think you need to do
that. I I want to.
Go ahead then you can picture everyone naked.

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Who are you picturing right now?You because you're in front of.
Me picture somebody else there's.
No one else. Like there's no one.
Around picture I'll say naked who?
What's that it's? Too muscular?
I don't think so. A little too flabby, doesn't go
to the gym enough. He's to shave his mustache.
He's a firefighter. There's a they're they're
supposed to have mustaches. Yeah, I just don't like.

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His Is that a requirement for firefighters?
I don't know. I don't, I don't know if you.
I just think it's a stereotype and they all kind of rock with
it. I feel like moustaches are
dying, you know? Yeah, they they look like gay
bikers. It's people like you that are
killing the moustache, you know.I don't like goatees.
I'm. Glad.
Wait, hold on, pause. Do you have something against
moustaches? Yeah, I they, they don't look

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good. Like in general, you've never
seen a mustache you liked. No.
What about John Cena Had a mustache?
No, he didn't. Yeah, he did.
No, he didn't at some point. No he didn't.
He's never had a mustache. He's never had facial hair.
He can't grow beard. Really.
Facial hair? Yeah, Never.
What if he had a mustache? What's a why?
Why? Why would he look like AI?
Don't know. Do you think that all men who

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have mustaches are gay? No, it's just I have this image
of a gay biker from a movie witha mustache in mind.
What movie is this? Wild hogs, maybe?
Wild Hogs doesn't have any gay bikers.
It has bikers. It's got bikers.
I don't know, it's a specific movie.
Oh, I'm thinking of South Park. Yeah, the gay biker.

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Yeah, I knew you were thinking of.
Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm thinking.
Of but what he doesn't have a mustache, he does.
He does. It's long.
It looks like a. He has a handlebar mustache
though. Is that the Metallica singer?
Cool. Doesn't he have a mustache like
that? The scene.
Yeah, he does have a mustache. What's the name?
James. James.

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I don't know. I don't know off the top of my
head. Oh, why are you asking about the
Metallica singer? Because I know he has a
mustache, I can go behind his. He.
Yeah, he has a mustache. He doesn't.
I can. Get behind his I can't get
behind Goatees I they look fucking gross.
What? Yeah, I don't like.
Goatees. OK, so you don't like mustaches
unless certain people wear them and you don't like goatees?

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Goatees are just bad. But I'm so confused on the
mustache thing. Why do you hate mustache?
I don't know, I did. It just looks weird.
But you have a mustache. Kind of.
Kind of, it's not all the way in.
It's a pre pubescent. Have you thought about shaving
it? No, a lot of people have been
telling me to shave my beard, soI just might shave my beard.

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Who's been telling you to shave your beard?
You. I told you to.
I told you to to manscape it. I said you should manscape it
and trim it, like shave it and then let it grow back so that it
grows back thicker and you're all that doesn't happen.
I'm like, what happens with me? Why don't you just try it?
Why don't you? What's gonna?
Happen everyone's suggesting to shave my beard?

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I think you could trim it up andclean it up by shaving it
regularly and maintaining it. I, I, I just, I can't, I look, I
look like. AI know what you look like.
I've seen you before you had before you could grow facial
hair. I just, I don't know.
I've been here on this journey with you.
I maybe one day or I'll just rubonions up against my beard and

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it grows thicker. Or like what?
What if you try? What if you got rid of the whole
beard and then you kept a goatee?
A mustache? I can't.
Damn it, I'll shoot my. Just try it.
I can't. Devin like it doesn't even
connect right here there, there's a pad, there's I have
skin. Because you've never, you've
never like, have you put any oilon it?
Have you ever tried to work on your skin?

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Take care. Yeah.
I'm not disciplined enough to myGod, I have beard oil over
there. I just haven't used it.
What happens if, like when you're 32, you start getting
thin hair in the corner of your head?
That's what I want. I want a bald.
You want a bald? Yeah.
Why I? Don't know I.
Just thought it looks cool I. Was so then to shave your hair?
It's not the same man. Yes it is.

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No, it's not. Yes it he's seen my brother.
He he shaves it his head and it's still there.
It's still there, but then that's when you get like a
bleeding. You go through and you.
I'd rather go through it naturally and I can't.
I know I'm not going to bald because my my dad and all his
brothers full head of hair at their old age.
I don't. Think you're going to bald?

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No, I, I, it's, it's kind of rare to see like Mexicans bald.
Have you noticed that? You know what's funny is in my
line of work, I've I've met a lot of white people and I'm
astounded how prevalent balding is in the white community.
Have you noticed that? Yeah, it's mainly white people
who bald. And black people bald, too.

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And Mexicans do bald, but like, all races do bald.
Yeah. But like, I'm just like, it's
very like, I noticed like every other guy you know who's white
is balding. But there's this one old white
guy that I know, he's like 55 but he's half Mexican, full head
of hair. Isn't that weird?
Yeah, I it's just genetics. You know, people tell me I'm in

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a bald, like my brother came up to me the other day and he's all
up. You're balding.
I was like, what? I got all scared.
It's probably the type of hair. I don't think so.
I don't. Wouldn't it be weird if I
balded? I can't see you bald.
My whole personality is my hair.Was was your grandpa bald?
No, no, no. We had to cut his hair every

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like, I think every week his hair grew faster than mine
sometimes. So I'm I get, I think I'm going
to be like that. I think you'll have your dad's
hair too, because your dad had really long hair.
Yeah, last time I saw him. Like if I'm like 80 and I'm
balding, Oh well I'm 80 who cares.
Don't like an impressed? So if you balded.
Next. Week.

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I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't.
Care. You really wouldn't care?
I wouldn't. What about the people around
you? Do you think they'd care?
Like what about Pear? I don't know.
I think her dad's bald. Oh no, he's not.
I think he's balding. You don't have to call her out
like that. That was pretty crazy.
Well, I'm just trying to think of like, if there's bald people
in her life. What about Orange?

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You think she would care? Oh, I got the people confused.
I I think she'll care. Orange is.
Yeah, orange. And then.
OK, OK. Yeah, I know, I know.
Yeah. They don't need to know.
They don't. Need to know, I think we should
keep going back to beards. I don't like chin straps.
I don't think anybody does. Like what were we talking about

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just now? I don't even remember we're.
Talking about balding in. Me bald people.
OK, yeah, facial hair. I think if you shaved your head
now with how your beard looks, you could probably get away with
it. But I think you should do more
beard care. I, I I need to be more
disciplined when it comes to beard.
Like I'm not trying to say you have a bad beard or anything,
like I think you can make your beard look better.

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Like I was thinking about it, I'm like, I can't even style my
hair. Like I'm not that disciple to
design my hair. I don't.
I've never seen your hair in a different style than what it is
now. Well, I used to put product in
it. I used to put not gel.
What's the other one? Pomade.
I used to put pomade in my hair and then I got lazy.
And then I used to put gel. I got lazy.
But dude, when you put pomade, you put pomade and then combed

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it like that. Yeah, like it was just like
that, but like more clean, I guess.
I don't know. Why don't you switch up your
hair? What?
Why don't you switch up your whole aesthetic?
Just try it out. I don't want to.
Test out something more. Because.
Refined I guess. My my hair used to just grow up.

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It wasn't WAVY like how how it is now and it took years for it
to be WAVY. So try try try switching it up.
So if I switch it up, I'm gonna have to go back onto that that
year. OK First off it doesn't take
years to train your hair. You just need like maybe like 2
weeks and conditioner, a real conditioner and you can set your

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hair to whatever you want. Once you once you like do
something like curly or like more WAVY or messy or like what
if you do like the the hanging hair, the what is it?
The curtains. Oh, the.
Or a side part? Yeah.
Or a taper fade. What if you grow out your whole
hair and do like a shaggy head? Like a what is it?

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A wolf cut. What's a wolf cut?
Dude you, you have no idea the heads of hair that are out there
for you. Yeah, but like none of them
appeal. Like your hair, your type of
hair always kind of I, I want totry it, but then I'll just be
like every basic guy out there. What?
What's wrong with my hair currently?
It's short and messy up top withthe feet.
No, no I'm not. Saying it, nothing's around

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there like like. 2000s messy Like if I had John my hair, this
would be a 2000s messy job. But everybody has.
That type of hair, not everybody.
Yeah, dude, there's a it was a lot more prominent back then.
You'll see Mexicans doing this, but they kind of do it all the
way around, like, you know, likeyou're.
You're. You're like almost Edgar
haircut. It's not.

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It's almost. It's almost there, Edgar.
'S are bowl haircuts with a taper fade.
That's an Edgar haircut, yeah. I know this is.
Short hair up top, messy with the mid fade or high fade.
Actually, I don't know I. I just found my style and I
liked it. I know.
And you look, you look great, but you've looked the same.

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I mean, have you ever thought about switching up your style?
I'm not trying to attack you. No, I think you it'd be cool if
you you did. I thought about it.
I I thought about slicking it back but I have to grow the top
out a lot more. What about your?
Style as a whole cuz like you, you can change your hair.
Maybe you do your hair last right?
What about cuz like right now you?

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How would you describe your style right now?
Like a heterosexual guy that's. No, I wouldn't say that.
What? What would you say?
I don't know. I don't, I don't want to make
you seem like I'm attacking you,especially on the show cause
like. With you, I always see you as
like an MGK punk skater boy typestyle.

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It's very. Good.
That's very good. Yeah, that's like for me it's.
More like. But I have, I have layers.
I was actually thinking about this on the way over here.
I have layers. Or I guess you're like an onion.
No, no. No, I'm like a Barbie.
I'm like a. Barbie, I don't think.
You, I think you should say can no, I'm like.
A I'm like a Barbie 'cause it'llpeople remember it.

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So when you, when you think about Barbie, she has all these
different outfits, right? Different themes, you know,
every box, a different theme gotyour Halloween theme, you got
your Barbie Playhouse. I'm like that.
So boom, spit me out. I look like a skater boy.
Boom, spit me out. I look like MGK, punk rock guy,
whatever, right? Boom, spit me out again.
I look like guy cosplaying the 1950s.

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Spit me out again. Then I look like a cat dad.
You know what I mean? Different outfits, different
themes. You with your theme.
We have Boom Sean Strickland, Boom Zach Bryan, Boom work
outfit, and then boom wrestling fan.
Boom, basketball fan. Yeah, heterosexual, but I want.

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To add in some more outfits because I think see.
I think it's. Refined to have more and more
and more selections. Well to each their own.
This how you are right now. You're peak Devon.
What do you mean right? Now this is.
This is. Your best style you've had my
my. Rocker style.
Yeah. Like what?
You how you look like right now.I guess that's not even rocker

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style, this is more just that's.Skater style of thing I get,
yeah. People tell me I look like a
skater but. Skater.
Street wear. Yeah, in a way like this is the
best style I've seen you have I and I've been there through the
dark days, Devin, this I I see the light now with you with and
your style like. Currently, yeah.
Like what? What, what?

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What's my modern style like overthe last five months?
This what you're wearing this like?
This specific outfit like right now two days, but what I.
Mean the style like the skater like yeah so like.
Over the like the last five months, like the style I've had
for the last, I'm thinking. Back to where you wore suits in
115° weather plus the the joggers with the logic sweater.

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I'm thinking I'm talking about those types.
Oh. Like long, like, like my arcs,
Yeah. Yeah, like this is your best.
Well, I guess this isn't an arc,but I know what you mean, yeah.
Yeah, 'cause I had. The let's just say, let's call
it what did Kevin call it old money add like the old money
aesthetic. Well, I guess it wasn't old

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money. It was just like cosplay and
then the retro outfits. I don't know help me out.
I want to give you like I can't see you doing like a rock style,
but I could see you doing more St. wear and like being able to
pull it off. I could see you also doing like

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I don't know how to, I don't know how to describe it.
So I'll try to I'll try to give you what I picture like a target
dad 30 year old who drives an SUV, has a clean beard and lives
in the suburbs. I know.
What, you mean shorts, no socks?Loafers with the color color
shirt and sunglasses and a hat. That's a little too much leaning

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towards into it. Like I, I'm, I'm thinking a mix
of your country style now, your minimalistic style, like when
you're going Sean Strickland andthen target Dad, and then you
combine all of that and it adds like a refinement because then
you start layering clothes. Like you don't layer, but when
you do layer, it looks like layering your clothes.

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So like my outfit currently, this is going to sound super
fucking sexual, but it's going to sound homo homo.
What is it not? Yeah, it's going to sound
homosexual. Thank you.
I ran my own joke. It's going to sound.
Super homosexual but my outfit isn't complete unless I'm
wearing my glasses and I got my water bottle because that's how

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I pictured it in my head, right?So like I think.
But when I. Add all of that.
Those are layers, right? If I had, when I wear my black
denim jacket and then what? The sleeves rolled up, that's a
layer. Oh, OK.
So like accessories in a way, yeah.
Like these are extra like these are accessories.
Accessories are just the little fine points but like the layers

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of clothing so like. How would I?
Describe you see it mostly like in coats and jackets and shirts
and stuff like that. But let's say you have like a a
muscle shirt as like the base and then you have like an open
button shirt as the first layer and then you're wearing
something else on top of that. You don't layer, you'll just
throw on AT shirt. But you can enhance that outfit.

(19:11):
Like right now this outfit, we can enhance it.
Like if I could style you, I could style you Awesome right
now, dude, actually. OK, we're gonna go do groceries
later. Can I style you Devin?
We're just. Going to Costco, man, We're not
going to downtown. If we're going to downtown, I'll
be like, all right, fine. Go ahead, Devin.
I'll get in my underwear. You dress me, go ahead.

(19:32):
But we're going to Costco, then we're not going to anywhere
special and I'm not going. To dress you like we're going
downtown, I'm going to put you in jeans, I'm going to switch
out your shoes, I'm going to make you look like you're going
to Costco. Devin, I'm just going to put on
shoes and the Wrestling is Real shirt.
Come on. Man, let me oh, the wrestling is
see, I'll I'll I'll style you using the wrestling is real
shirt. I really.

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If I already know what you're going to say, I was you're going
to put either the black converseI have somewhere over there.
With black pants, the wrestling is real shirt.
You're going to have me wear that bracelet that I have in
here and then we're going to go no, what are we going to say
the. Wrestling is real.

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Shirt is white, right green. Gray, almost black.
Almost black. OK.
I'm just want to make sure it's like.
It's like. The colored shirt you have on.
Perfect. Well then I can't.
I can't study on that outfit. OK, Did you want shorts or
pants? Shorts.
It's. Fucking hot out there,
especially when we're taking my car.

(20:33):
Yeah. Are we?
Still taking your car? We could take mine if you can
fit everything in my car. I was just going to get. 2 cases
of water bottle of water. That's it.
We're. Going to Costco for that and.
And yeah, that was basically it.Yeah, we'll take.
My car. Oh, and then?
Laundry I also have. AC in my car all.
Right. Man, that's do you want AC?
Or not, I don't really. Care.
I was going to take my car because I'll let you play.
Ox though. OK, whatever.

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OK, see. He got ox privilege.
OK, so. The fuck is I talking?
About OK style cactus Jack shirtthat's the wrestling is real
shirt shorts do you have wait how long is the shirt on you
when it fits I. Can't remember is it?

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Is it like a shortcut short shirt or is it like a long cut?
I think it's like this. I think it's like that.
I would say it's like AI would say this is a long cut and this
is a little little graphic, but if it touches your Dick, it's a
long cut. If it touches the top of your
your pants but. Let's just say shortcut.

(21:39):
Let's say a. Shortcut OK.
Cuz like you don't want to put along cut, long cut shirt with
long cut shorts that go past your knees will make you look
short. But if you do shorts that are
too short, then it'll also make you look short because the
shirts kind of like suffocating you.
So you're just a shirt and legs.So you got to find like perfect

(22:02):
combinations here for shirts andshorts.
See but you. Don't know about this stuff.
These are things that 90% of people put into their their
thought. I know and it.
Pisses me off. If you're going to fucking
Walmart, who gives a shit? Because people.
Want to look good? It makes them feel confident,
Devin. I don't care, I know, but.
Like I could style you, make youlook good, then people will be

(22:22):
like, hey, he put got into his outfit.
You can tell he looks uniform. He looks like he was ripped out
of a commercial. And then you know what they're
gonna do because people are justwired like this.
They're gonna treat you better. And then you know what that's
gonna do. It's gonna make you feel.
Better about yourself. Devin I I people treat me great,

(22:42):
even when I dress like this. I don't know.
Man, 'cause you're the one that said last episode that you have
ugly on your face and you don't like going out in public and you
don't like the way you dress andstuff like that.
And now we're talking about in this episode 2 weeks later, and
you're telling me that that was all bullshit.
That was the old man. That was 2.
Weeks ago I I. Could change overnight that I

(23:02):
change overnight. OK, you could.
Change overnight. You could change overnight, but
the world doesn't, so something's inconsistent here.
The. World's stupid.
They're wrong. The world.
Doesn't turn nice overnight. The world sucks.
It's always sucked. It's always going to suck.
That's why. That's why I have to be the
bigger person. So all of this is to say, no,
you're not going to let me styleyou because you don't give a

(23:23):
fuck. You don't think Devin.
Devin. Whenever we go to downtown, it's
not if it's when it's a. Win it could.
Be when did it turn? Into a win it could be.
It could be 6 months from now, it could be man just.
Cuz you started going out again doesn't mean I want to go out,
Devin, You're not. Letting me say my piece.
This is why I stay quiet in the episodes.
Damn, this is. A back and forth.

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Whenever we go to downtown, it could be 6 months until now, it
could be next week. I'll let you style me.
I'll shake. I'll shake on it.
I We. Have too many shakes going on.
I can't keep up with all the shakes.
Fine. How many?
Bets. And side things do we have going
on that I can't keep track of. I lost.
You have like trackers in the back of your head and you'll be
like, oh, wait, Devin, this thing it went off like a week

(24:06):
ago. I forgot to tell you.
There's too much. It's fine.
It doesn't matter. I'm just offering to style you.
I'll I'll let you. Style me When we go to downtown,
it's a. Fun thing that friends do for
each other girls dude. Now.
Guys do it too. Gay.
Guys, what is wrong? With you and showing yourself to
the world. Devin.
I am showing. Myself to the world.

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I'm telling people, hey, this ismy style, deal with it.
You can't change me. But then every time I'm like,
hey, I like your style. Let's enhance your style.
You're only gay guys do that. Yeah.
Why? It's a very.
Flamboyant thing to do. So you don't like?
Mustaches. You don't like facial hair?
You don't like self-expression? You don't like switching up your

(24:47):
hair? Everyone should just fucking.
State to themselves what the. Fuck, walk around.
With the fucking cubicle, all right.
What the fuck? I don't.
Understand you, you know, all right, let me ask you a
question. Who's your Who's your celebrity
crush right now, right? Now.

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Right now. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo.
I'm just doing. This for the dead noise.
Don't. Don't feel pressured to answer.
Answer when you're ready. I'm stuck between two I'm stuck

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between Isabella, Merced or Merced or Liv Morgan.
I know Liv Morgan's a wrestler, so I'm guessing the other girl's
a wrestler too. She's the girl from The Last of
Us, not not Ellie. I wasn't.
Thinking Ellie, but I love how you threw that and there's a

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preference. And then I remember what she
looked like and I'm like. Hey, for somebody.
That's, you know, not concerned with other people's looks.
He pointed that out really quickly.
You know, because I I. Kept bringing her up and you and
Dom kept fucking trashing her and I'm like, no, it's not her,
it's not her you guys kept. Well, yeah, we are.
Trashing her because that's hashtag not R Ellie but also

(26:17):
because we we're just rage baiting.
We don't even watch the show. But.
Yeah, not. Her, not her.
Do you know? Do you know who?
Nope, I don't. I don't know who you're talking
about. Which one out of the two as you
pull that up is your favorite right now?
Well. Isabella's lesbian, so I guess
Liv. OK so do you think Liv is stupid

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for putting effort into her outfits and stuff like that?
No, because I. Always thought it was a woman
thing to do. You don't think that men should
be putting thought into how theydread bro men in the 50s and in
the 20s? Like when you think of like
what? Most masculine men give me an
arrow. She kind of looks.

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Like Anna de Atomos. What's her name again?
Isabella. Merced, Isabella.
Merced. She's Peruvian.
Peruvian. From Peru?
Yeah, Peruvian. Hey, here's a question for you.
I forgot. Oh fuck, what do you call people
from Florida? Like, you know how we're
Arizonans? Oh, then.

(27:25):
Flor Floridans Floridans, Floridians it's.
Floridians. Floridians.
Floridians What? The fuck?
But there's another one that I heard recently too.
Trip me the fuck out. Oh, here's one Idaho.
What do you call people from Idaho?
Potatoes. That's a good.
One. That's a good one.
Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know what they're called.
I'm just asking. Like hoes.

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Yeah, I guess you're a hoe if you're from Idaho.
That's a good one. Yeah.
What about Wyoming? I don't know.
They just don't. They don't have good names, you
know? Dakotans.
Dakotans. Yeah, Dakotans probably sounds
good, but there's two of them. So.
North Dakotan. S Dakotan.
They probably have different acts.
Illinois. Black people.
Illinoisan. Illinoisan Sounds right.

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Californian. New.
Yorker, Hawaiian. Louisianans, Arizonan, Nevada.
Novedans. Novedans.
Nevadans, Nevadans, Nevadans. I like Novedans.
What about Tennessees? Novedans.
Spells 80s Tennessean. Tennessean.
OK, Virginians. Kentuckians.

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Kentuckians. Kentuckians.
Kentuckians. Kentuckians.
No, it's probably Kentuckian. Kentuckian.
Kentuckian sounds like it's. Kentuckian.
I'm willing to bet anything it'sKentucky it sounds like.
They numb my lip and I kill. Them, but actually Kentucky.
Kentucky. No, Kentucky.

(28:52):
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
OK, so I I lost track of we we both lost track.
We just. Got wait?
Hold on. I got one more Vermont.
What about Vermont? Vermouthians.
Oh, that's cool. That that sounds like an army
Vermouthian. Vermouthians.
Remove the. Oklahomans.
Oklahomans. Washington, what do you call?

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I think that's what it was because we were watching
Twilight. What do you, what do you call a
Washington? Uh.
Washington. You're probably fucking a God
damn it. OK so give me the what?
What? Who do you think?
What do you consider to be the manliest era or version of man
to exist? Probably like in the 80's, the.

(29:38):
80s yeah, with their. With their mullets and their
perms and their fucking eyeliners.
Oh no, Because. The oh that those 70s and they
put. They put effort into their
their, their style. They.
What? Eyeliners.
Yeah. Eyeliners started for men in the
late 60s, was prominent in the 70s and like rock culture and
counterculture, but then was incorporated into the 80s with

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hair metal bands and with hair metal bands that were honoring
the original rock legacy, and then it became popular in pop
culture. Oh.
So people would wear eyeliner togo out and party.
That's not what guys. That's not exactly.
What I was thinking guys. So my this all leads back to my

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point of putting effort into your style has never been gay,
no. But it was the corporations.
I was telling him, hey, put thatshit on.
No, it wasn't. It was the bands.
It was the. Fucking their labels sometimes.
Yes, the labels are like, hey, you're going to do this because
other bands are doing this. But the bands that started it
started it. They started it as a

(30:43):
counterculture movement. So a lot of the stuff that you
associate with being gay startedbecause of the counterculture
movement. Now if you think the 80s are the
most masculine time period, wellthe 80s was.
The. Most masculine version of a post
counterculture America. Meaning it's masculine to put

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effort into your outfits. I didn't.
I wasn't thinking about pop culture.
I was thinking about how a normal fucking 20 year old would
dress. But that.
OK, but that's defined by their pop culture.
How would a normal 20 year old dress in the 80s?
How I? How I picture someone from the
80s is Levi's with boots, a collared shirt and then a Jean

(31:30):
jacket and then with the shaggy haircut a.
Collared. Shirt.
Yeah, like a button up collared shirt.
Yeah. With the Jean.
Jacket, Yeah. That's.
How I always thought happy. Wait, wait, wait.
What color is this collared shirt?
You fucked up my home. You're talking about like a huh?
A white collared shirt? Yeah, with the Jean.

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Maybe stripes on the That's likea. 90s cowboy aesthetic, that's
how I thought. So you thought the?
80s dressed like a 90s cowboy? No, I thought.
People from the 80s, that's, I thought that's how they dress
because they always wore Levi shit.
Well, yeah. They did.
Jeans are very popular in the 80s, but that was like
everybody, everybody wore that. That's.

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Exactly what I was thinking about.
OK. OK, but, but, but they wore it
the way people wear Carhartt's today.
They were taking workers uniforms and using it for style.
Carhart's, you know, have been around for a while and they've
always been associated with workwear.
Now it's like style to wear it right.

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Meaning all of this again ties back to I want to just upgrade
your style. I want to add some stuff to it.
No, I'm OK, Devin. Come on man.
This whole argument has just been to get a yes out of you,
Devin. We've been going.
For 30 minutes and have not touched any of our topics you're
leading. The conversation I was trying.
To lead out. But you got like, Eddie, let me
dress you, man, let me dress. You.

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I think this is. Fine.
What I'm wearing is fine. I'm going to change the shirt
and put on those Nike shoes, OK?Whatever, it's fine.
I'm going to pull up. My phone now because I have to
get the topics ready. You can announce that you're
switching topics. That's OK.
That's what happens in conversation, I think.
I thought you would have had it off the top of your head, if
anything. Oh, since.

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We're this is kind of on style, Sure.
Why don't car manufacturers produce modern cars that look
classic? That's a kind of worms, man.
You know what? Give me your take first.
What do you think? I feel like?
They're too. Wait, let me.
Give me, let me. No, no, no, no.
This, this, this ties into it. Why did you write that question

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down? Because I was sitting and
staring at the road and there's a lot of cars that just look too
futuristic. Futuristic, yeah.
That took that looked too plain that's it and and it just looked
like every car looked the same they all.

(33:56):
Looked the same I fucking I hateit I but like I feel.
Like car manufacturer will look will make a lot more money each
of them if they go back to the roof then you could determine
which one looks which one's which well.
I think a lot of it comes down to budget costs, but sucks
because they're all using the same manufacturing and they're
all using the same techniques toget the same molds or the same

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stuff so it all looks the same and yadda yadda yadda yadda.
That's why I like all the cars now, will have similar interiors
or look the same or operate the same.
That's why you can have the GMC truck with an interior that
looks like a Chevy Impala, you know?
Oh, OK. But because I was sucks, I saw
in AI saw I think it was a Hyundai and it looked like

(34:41):
exactly like a like a fucking Nissan, a new Nissan Altima or
something. Yeah.
And a lot of the Japanese car manufacturers do that too.
They all like bottle parts or use each other's because like.
Even in the movies, like let's say with the new Fantastic Four
movie, it looks like a classic 80s Corvette, but it's a hover

(35:03):
car. And then there was a truck that
looked like a 50s Ford, but it'sfloating.
So I don't know why car manufacturers now just do that.
I don't. Know I wish I wish that I had
more of an answer for it, but I think a lot of it is just cost
and because they just stopped caring like right now you can
tell which car companies cared about cars from the get go and

(35:26):
which ones are like have become something else because back in
the day every all these companies cared about because
even the sports. Cars are starting to look like I
remember when sports cars had their own.
Yeah, each one of them looked different, but they were all
still kind of the same, like, you know, like in the 90s, all
of them were kind of going for that.
This look. I don't know what you would call
this, the thin look. I would call.

(35:47):
It a triangle like an arrow. OK, like.
They were all like, they all have pointy noses.
And like they. Were all sleek and it kind of
just looked like a an Arrowhead.You know.
Nowadays it's a, It's kind of like, I wouldn't say boxy, but I
would say like, how would you describe our Yeah, like boxy?

(36:11):
No, it's more like, I think you're right, too futuristic.
Like this is how we would, this is how we would have drawn cars
that look like they came from 2030I.
Feel like they'll make a lot more money if they started
designing cars like how they were in the like even let's just

(36:33):
let's just say that they do limited editions Ford every
every car manufacturer they're like hey we're going retro and
we're going to only make a thousand of these that's why I.
Appreciate companies like Porsche because they just
refined the same car over and over and over again like the
9/11 has been in their catalog for I want to say like 60-70

(36:54):
years. Is it a plane?
It's a. Car and it's a it's a car that
has been continued continuing toget refined generation after
generation. So they get a platform, let's
just say something like a Dodge Charger, right?
And then let's say you gave it aportion.
They're like, hey, refine it. So and then they released this
model year and this model year and this model year, which is

(37:15):
boring to some people, but to them they're just refining and
they're making it better. They're giving people what they
love and enhancing it. Yeah, 'cause like with the
Silverados, the Silverados and the GMCS look exactly the same.
Yeah, I just. I hate, but Porsche is like an
an exception and even they all of their their nine elevens look
the same. They have the same kind of like

(37:37):
chassis to them. I wish there was more chassis
variations. I wish cars were weird.
You know what I wish? At the very least, if they're
not going to change the models, give us color.
Yeah, that too. Everything's Gray and white and
black. You know what?
I. I don't know if you've ever
noticed this, but have you seen pictures of?
Like. Traffic in the 60s.

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No, if you ever. Pay attention like somebody
takes a picture of traffic in the 60s.
It doesn't matter which you know, city you're in, what part
of the country and what what country you're in.
Every car is a different color on the picture and none of them
are black or white or silver or tan.
So it's red. Blue-green, Yellow, Purple I.

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Think it was also because it's probably harder to make those
colors. Maybe, but like.
I don't know. I guess so, but I think it I
think a lot of it just I don't know why why why why don't they
do color more color options? Maybe because they have to get
the things ready for that one color like you said, or maybe.

(38:42):
There's laws in place like, hey,you can't have a yellow car or
you can't have too many yellow cars because then yellow
reflects off the sun and it's too blinding for the other
drivers. So but if that was.
The thing What do we learn aboutthat in school?
No like we would. Learn like hey yellow bounces
off of this, that's why we don'tuse it on stop.
Signs. I don't know.
See like, OK, if you could have your car be any color right now,

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Transformers, what would you change it to?
Probably like an olive green. Olive green, personally, it's
not the color I would have chosen, but if it's like a nice
refined olive green, you know, like a deep light.
Yeah. That it's like a mature color,
like a military green. Yeah, in a way.

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Yeah. Like a nice clean glassy, yeah.
Glossy olive green with black wheels and then a a slightly
tinted windows. Not limo tint.
No. Probably like your type of tint
and your car. I don't have.
Tint. It comes with factory tint but.
Like 20. Percent, I think, yeah,
whatever. 15%. Whatever.

(39:46):
Tint your your windows are that that type of tint OK?
Hey, you know. What I can see the build, I can
see the dream build. Why don't we do that?
Why don't you get your car wrapped?
I I don't know how much it costsa wrap.
For your car probably be like 600 maybe closer to like does
Angel do. Wraps now he does.
Paint, he doesn't know. We were talking about that.

(40:07):
Or actually I was like, do you rap?
He's like, I don't know how to do shit on wraps.
But paint. Paint is more expensive, but
it'll last forever. Wraps will last like 3 years,
three to five years. So they're meant to be
temporary. Oh, OK.
Then I'll just do paint, but hey.
You can switch out the rap everycouple of years. $600.00 every

(40:28):
three well. What was the car you're going to
get next I want? A Tacoma.
Tacoma would be sweet, but like I.
Realized that a lot of my friends have Tacomas.
I'm just falling. Get a Tundra.
To I. Don't like tundras because of
the inside? So have you been inside of a
tundra? It's too like small.
I have, I've been inside of a tundra.

(40:50):
Oh, you fucked. In a tundra, no.
No, no, no. OK, no.
Was was her Tundra? Oh.
OK. But yeah, don't you think it's
small? I didn't think it.
Was small. Wait, doesn't she?
Have a frontier? Let me double check.
I thought it was a. Frontier.
I thought it was a. Tundra.
But I can't. Remember what this bitch drives?

(41:22):
No, you're right. She has a, She has a frontier.
But just. Get a Tacoma.
Well, no. I am.
I don't care that I'm going to have the same truck as Matt but
like I was seeing the Tacoma or Tundra but the tundras are too
small. Get it to.
If you got a Tacoma like a brandnew 2025, what color would you
get? Gray.
Gray. You would get a Gray truck.

(41:44):
Why don't you get a red truck like a blue truck?
Fucking make a statement. I am purple truck.
No, that's too far. Badass.
I see. I I have you seen the pink Tesla
that's around here? No.
Around here, do you have a pink Tesla that lives near you that
I. Think that lives on the other
side of Valencia over there. No, I didn't.
I didn't know. Yeah, there's a.

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There's a pink Tesla, so the. Owner of the pink Tesla.
I have one question. Why?
That's why I like cyber trucks so much.
They're fucking different. They they're awesome.
They're too. Different for me, I'll I'll.
Drive and I still. Don't get behind electric
vehicles. I I don't care at this point,

(42:25):
you don't care. About electric Have you ever
driven an electric vehicle? No.
But soon enough, they're going to ban gasoline cars.
They're already banning gasolinecars in California.
We talked about that. That was my, that was my
prediction. Remember they.
And my brother. I think 2030. 4 is when it's
officially going to. They're going to ban gas powered
cars. I don't think they.
Can ban gas powered cars? No, I think.

(42:49):
I think what they meant is they're gonna stop selling gas
powered cars Like like dealerships, yeah.
I think they will, but they'll probably stop selling it for
sure. But like people.
Are could still drive drive themaround, you just can't buy a new
one. If you could.
Choose would you get an electricor a gas?
Gas, gas. I like gas.

(43:09):
Gas is just electric. Wouldn't give you so much issues
with the motor though in the engine.
Yes, but like at any point they could just shut off your car.
Lose control. Yeah, they.
Could they'll be like, hey, you forgot to pay your Internet
bill. You can't drive.
You know that's. Actually happening already.
I can't. I can't give you any specific
examples because I didn't do enough research on this, but I

(43:31):
saw I I believe. It I believe that's how we're
going to that's how they're going to keep controlling us
more and more. I saw some.
Headlines on it and it it poppedup something talking about like
how this guy forgot to pay something and then they shut off
his car. I think electric cars are only
good for like Rd. trips. Why?
I don't think lasts longer. Doesn't the charge last longer?

(43:53):
Doesn't the? Last not as long as you would
think. Like cuz.
OK, so I on a recent recent worktrip when I was in California, I
had to ride around with a guy who had an EB for the entire
week, right? And it was a stark contrast.
So it was me, the guy at the EV and the guy with the Ram truck
and the times that I was riding with the guy at the EV, it's

(44:16):
just quiet. Like I'm sure you've ridden in
Teslas and stuff, right? You know what I'm talking about.
It's just quiet because there's no motor.
But what he was telling me is that now the cars are coming
standard. Like they brake for you.
Like he doesn't even have to brake.
All he has to do is press on thegas.
So it comes with like 1 pedal. What the?
Hell, it's weird. Dude, like it's taking all

(44:36):
control away and I can see it getting to a point where it'll
accelerate and de accelerate foryou.
Yeah. At that point, I don't know why
you buy the buy the car. I think you're just buying a
chauffeur. Chauffeur.
You're not. You're not.
I. Think you're trying to get it to
a point where you're not buying the car, you're buying the
experience of riding in the car.Probably they don't want you to

(44:57):
be able to control the car. Yeah, and I noticed it on my
work vehicle too. My work.
Vehicle. It's a Ford.
I think it's like a 2022. A.
Ford Explorer Sport. I have to throw in the sport and
it doesn't have an RPM gauge cluster, it doesn't have a

(45:19):
mileage gauge cluster. It doesn't have anywhere for me
to check the settings like on myoil pressure or anything like
that. All it shows me is how fast I'm
going, if I'm in eco mode, if mylane correction control thing is
on the music I'm listening to, and if I got any messages.
Damn, that's. Installed in the car like that's

(45:41):
how it is. That's that's why I wouldn't
want to buy a new car like when you.
When you Rev right, you you stepon the the throttle, gas gets
released in the engine, needle moves right, you can see it even
if you're standing still. When I Rev in my Ford, nothing
happens. What though?
I hear it and it's not an electric vehicle, so don't get
me wrong, I hear it, I hear the engine, but there's no, there's

(46:04):
no gate. It's just the screen.
There's no needles, there's no nothing.
It's just the screen. That's.
Stupid if the screen. Breaks.
I'm fucked. I don't know how fast I'm going.
I don't even know what the car will start.
Now. That's a regular engine, so
imagine like how things are in electric vehicles.
I feel like they're. Gonna start implementing laws
about that with electric. Vehicles, yeah.

(46:26):
What do you mean? They're they're, I don't know
because like. They're I don't know.
Because like when that Tesla came out, it got delayed because
it was too wide for roads. So they're like, all right,
you're gonna have to put it this.
Really. Yeah, the original.
Model was too wide. It was too wide.
So. So.
Like they, they're like, all right, you're gonna have to

(46:47):
narrow it down. And I'm pretty sure they're
gonna be like, all right, every car from now on has to be this
exact size. Did you hear?
That there Tesla's almost done completing their self driving
car. I thought that was the way I
think. No, no.
No. So what it is, is in 2016, Elon
Musk announced that Tesla was going to go into person free

(47:11):
taxis, right? Kind of like the ones we have in
Phoenix where the car would justdrive itself around at all times
and then like people would get in it and then it would drive
you places, right? And theoretically it'd be able
to drive itself from LA to New York, like across the country,
right? But at the time, they didn't
have the technology to make it drive by itself from LA to New

(47:35):
York without breaking down or fucking up or whatever, right?
I don't know if it has to do with the charge, whatever, just
the technology wasn't there. 2017 we don't have the
technology, 2018-2019 yadda, yadda, yadda.
Now in 2025 we have the technology for the car to drive
itself around the city of Austin, TX.
So in Austin, TX, they have these Tesla cars that will just

(47:56):
drive around by themselves and theoretically can drive, you
know, like to the whole other different part of the city by
themselves. I don't know how that.
If that's the. Industry standard, but now it's
getting to a point where they want to make cars that can
literally just drive you to and from cities and states.
Nah. That's like would.

(48:17):
You trust that I I? I would trust him you wouldn't
see. You're the problem.
This is what I mean. I would.
Trust it, but like I wouldn't doall the time that I think.
Before they put money into something like this, they could
put money into something like. An.
Advanced railroad system, that'sexactly.
What I was thinking, I'm like, I'm pretty sure those cars are

(48:39):
going to be on a road only for those type of cars and.
At that point you're already putting money into that.
So like, why don't you just create like a sky rail?
Let's actually steal it from the50s, right?
A sky rail LA to what? What would be a good city to
connect it to Phoenix 'cause it's the fifth biggest I love.

(49:02):
It Las Vegas Las. Vegas LA to Las Vegas sky rail.
If you can do it, how long do you think it would take you if
you were like on a rail train? Probably like 2 hours, right?
200 miles an hour LA to Las Vegas.
Oh, you'll be there in. Like 10 minutes 20.
Miles an hour. Yeah, because I.
Think LA to Las Vegas is an hourand a half no?

(49:24):
LA to Las Vegas is like, I want to say like 4 hours well.
Well, on a plane, I think it's an hour and a half.
So if you're going 200 mph, it'sprobably like, I don't know.
How long would it take you to gofrom LA to Las Vegas if you were
travelling 200 miles an hour? What the fuck?

(49:51):
Anchor Point, AK? It takes us 65 hours by traffic.
Oh wow, I don't think it understood my question.
Doesn't matter. What do you think?
Where do you see it going? I see.
It going where? Like I said, there's gonna be
specific streets that only self driving cars could go, and if
you want to get to point it to point B, you have to get in

(50:12):
those self driving cars. But I still think there's going
to be cars where you can drive yourself, I feel like.
We lose something by giving it to car, giving cars the power to
drive us. No, we're, we're then we're
heading in the direction that we're going to be controlled.
There's no running away from it.What?

(50:33):
Do you mean we've been controlled?
We've been controlled for while since Roswell.
At least I fully believe that now.
I fully believe a lot of stuff. I want to get into some of these
conspiracies, but I have to write them down.
Oh, OK. But like, that would be its own
dedicated episode. I was thinking next episode
because I've already started looking into some of it.

(50:54):
I I don't think no I we still have freedom to do whatever we
want, but the moment that all like self driving cars.
We still have freedom to do mostthings, I think.
I think you should play Detroit,become human, and then you don't
know what I mean. I want to play that game.

(51:16):
Is it on PC? Yeah.
OK, I. Will I think it's like 10 bucks
on steam right now. Really.
How long does it take to be like810 hours, Right?
It's like a shortish. Yeah, it's.
It's like I think Max like 10 hours.
Would you watch me? Play it No.
Fuck, cuz that I, I didn't know that that game was that type of
game. So I kind of got, I kind of got
bored. But an RPG game?

(51:38):
It's an RPG. It's a role.
Playing game OK. Yeah, where you make decisions
for yourself. Yeah, yeah.
Impacts. Those story, Yeah, Yeah.
It's like Heavy rain. It's by the people who made
Heavy Rain. I don't know, but I don't know.
What? That is PlayStation.
Classic PlayStation 3 Classic. I don't.
Know never played it OK well yeah if you were to ask me what

(52:00):
the feature looks like it's going to look like cyberpunk and
Detroit become human OK we're. Going to go full conspiracy here
for a second. This is what I mean by control,
right? I with a lot of the research
I've been doing on some conspiracies we're going to talk
about here soon, I've been realizing how we have the
illusion of control and freedom in a lot of different aspects of

(52:24):
society, but how we really lost control a long time ago.
And not only did we lose it. Our.
Grandfathers, our fathers, grandfathers and great
grandfathers gave it up. They gave up control to the
government and they have secretly been controlling a lot
of things in the background for a long time.
And this sounds obvious. It sounds like we all know about

(52:46):
this. It's generic conspiracy.
I'm taking these off because it's hard to see shit.
But what I mean is like, they didn't come in and take control
and force us to be quiet. They were learning stuff out the
exact same time we were. And then we just kind of expect
them to take care of it. And then from that they gained
power that they've never let go.So like, did you know, a little

(53:10):
little? No, not little.
Little. Lesser known little.
Lesser known fact, Little lesser.
Known fact. Is that right?
Little lesser known fact. Little little.
Less. Here's a thing you don't know.
Here's a here's. A uncommon fact about Roswell.
But afterwards, after the initial event, for weeks before

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they came out and said that it was a weather balloon, the
United States were reporting it being something completely
different and could potentially be linked to extraterrestrial
life or secret government testing in the newspaper for
weeks before they came out. And then said, oh, it's just the
weather balloon. Don't ever ask about this again.

(53:55):
Yeah. And that to me is an example of
where it's like our government was like, hey, this is what's
happening. We're communicating this to you.
And then everybody was like, allright, cool, have fun with it.
And they're like, you don't care.
They're like, Nah, you'll figureit out and tell us.
And then they looked at what they're holding, and they're
holding infinite power. And they're like, yeah, yeah,

(54:17):
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll tell you about it. Don't worry.
Don't trust me on this. Huh.
No, that was a weather balloon. Don't even ask about it.
Just trust me. Don't.
No, no, no, no, no, no. I got you.
And then from that, they turned greedy.
Because then from there, we can link most of our scientific and
technological development leading back to Roswell.

(54:40):
I I. Didn't say that before you have
said that. Before, but a lot of it is now
being confirmed by like. Whistleblowers and shit.
Whistleblowers, intellectuals, people in the know.
So like a lot of the things thatwe have been confirming are now
being debunked and proven true and they're all being thrown
under the radar. What I meant?
By controlling us is I saw like a video saying something about

(55:04):
the real ID and how it's gonna go bad for us.
Because I guess in Japan, they have these type of cameras that
track you and they could see your social, your social China.
China, Yeah, where they could track your social credit score.
And if you're so bad you can't even go into like a McDonald's
or something. I feel like that's that that's

(55:25):
what we're heading into. They're they're gonna see like,
oh, Devin has a 427. He can't come into this Canes,
Eddie. That that.
Yeah. No, this is, you're right, but
there's a correlation between the two that I don't think
you're seeing. So it starts off with Roswell
and it the final destination is the China scenario, right?

(55:48):
And what I'm saying and what a lot of people have been saying,
like a lot of whistleblowers tooare saying, is that at no point
has the government come in with guns drawn and taken the power
from us. At no point have they ever
forced us to give them power. What happened was that in the
beginning, in the early stages and all throughout the history

(56:11):
of our government having this new power.
We've. Allowed them to do whatever they
want. And it wasn't until recently
where, like, we really started to, like, step up against them
and stand out and say something,you know, like most of the wars
that we fought in during the. What was it, the 20th century?

(56:33):
Yeah, 20th century. We weren't.
We weren't supposed to get involved in, like, at all.
Like the Korean War, everybody knows that wasn't a war.
We were supposed to get involvedin Vietnam.
They just made an excuse for us to go to Vietnam.
And like with most of the fundamental wars, aside from the
world wars, we didn't need to beinvolved.

(56:56):
And now we've turned into, like,a government that's involved
with foreign and political affairs when we never were.
Yeah. Like.
Like this recent war with Iran and Israel, the the United
States trying to get involved already.
Or like the Ukrainian war, right?
And like, yes, there's some of these wars have implications to

(57:16):
go to a grander scale, whatever.But it's like we've gotten to a
point where now our government is acting completely
unrecognizable to how they were 150 years ago, but because
nobody was from 150 years ago isaround to call him out.
And none of us know how to call him out because we feel like we
can't call him out. They've just now they have all
the power and they continue to have all the power and they will

(57:39):
continue to have all the power until we unanimously as a
collective stand up and tell them no.
Well. Even then, I think it's already
too late. I don't think.
I don't think they're going to care though.
Protest. Who cares?
Yeah, but you're thinking about it in a traditional sense, like
if their grand scheme is to control us using stuff like

(58:01):
electric vehicles, right? Don't get an electric vehicle.
It's that simple. And they're going to make it
harder for you to own your existing vehicle.
But then that's when you call out the hypocrisy and you have
to make enough noise to where itgets attention.
Well, no. What I mean is because there's
this congressman who was callingout, calling someone out, and
they arrested him for it. Like.

(58:24):
I think it was a Congress. I know for sure it was a
congressman. And it was like, let's say it
was Nancy Pelosi. Like let's say she was doing an
interview and he was there. He'll be like, this is bullshit,
whatever saying it. And they arrested him for that
and took him away. But was he?
Calling her out or was it like what?
What was the context? It wasn't a threat.
I think it was like it had to dowith immigration, all right, and

(58:45):
deporting illegals. And he went up to them
aggressively. Just be like, hey, this is Bron.
This is all this. And he kept insisting and they
just got him, arrested him and took him away.
But what's the? What's the context here?
What I mean? Is like we could do all this
shit but in the end I don't think it'll matter.
That's the mindset that they want you to have though with

(59:07):
things like this, like, and it'sbecause we don't have all the
information. I think, I think personally,
because I think once we have allthe information and once we know
the context of how bad things are, since they've been in
control, like with this newfoundpower, AKA since they found
whatever it is that made them start this new technological

(59:29):
age, which I'm guessing pinpointed from Roswell, they've
changed. And like Lyme disease, did you
know that's government created our government created Lyme
disease. What's Lyme disease?
I've always heard it, but I don't know what it is.
It's a. Disease that's very deadly, and
let's just leave it at that 'cause I don't want to go deep
into it. I don't know enough about it to

(59:49):
tell you about it, but Lyme disease, it's a very deadly
disease that you can contract ina lot of different ways, but I
think you can get it mostly fromconstruction work, right?
Look it up. You want to Fact Check?
I don't know where my phone is. Just look up.
How do you get Lyme disease? Lyme disease is transmitted by

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the bite of an infected deer tick.
Oh. That OK I'm confused into two
different diseases. So Lyme disease get it from
deers and it spreads to their animals.
Either way, that disease didn't exist 100 years ago.
The government accidentally created, created it and it was a
lab leak in Lyme, CT, or Lyme, Kansas, one of the two states,

(01:00:35):
there's a city that had this science research facility and
the disease didn't originate, you know, naturally it
originated from this, you know, factory and it leaked out and it
became a disease that we couldn't control and it just
started killing people. The same with Ebola, that was a
lab leak. And the same with the

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coronavirus, that was a lab leak.
It was an. HLN one another one.
Wasn't there a lot of diseases that were created in the lab?
A. Lot of modern diseases are
created in the lab. Vaccines have been
scientifically and medicinally proven to cause ailments in the
bodies. But we were forced to take them
and we were being socially pressured by our loved ones to

(01:01:18):
take them and it did irreversible damage to our DNA
for those people that took it. Wait, hold on.
Do you think vaccines created autism?
No. No, no.
What? Yeah, RFK.
Thinks that that vaccines. A specific source of which which
vaccines? I think he.

(01:01:38):
Just said vaccines in general. Vaccines aren't always what we
think they are. Vaccines are amazing in theory,
but the vaccines that we get usually are experimentation
because he. He, he, he, he thinks that or
he, yeah, he thinks that vaccines created autism because
there was no autistic people before this type of before this

(01:02:01):
time. And there's no autistic people
in like Amish communities. Maybe, maybe there's a
correlation there, but I'm I'm sure that birth, I don't want to
say defects, but birth defects like that can occur naturally.

(01:02:23):
I think it's just more prominentnow because of vaccines.
Vaccines. And a lot of the the medicine
that we're putting in our bodies, but like it's constantly
getting proven, like in the medical field that the
government's just experimenting on us and just giving us random
shit that didn't even exist lastweek.
Like why is it that there's so many new commercials for new

(01:02:44):
products to treat new diseases? RFK said there's going to be a
ban on on pharmaceutical commercials and ads.
Good. I'm glad that he at least cares,
but like, ROK is a good example because of like, the Red 40 and
stuff, right? Like banning all of that in our
foods. At what point did that get
thrown into our foods? And who allowed that?

(01:03:04):
That was our grandfathers who were like Red 40.
It's cheaper. Yeah.
Throw it in food. Fuck it.
You know, they lost control a long time ago and now we're
trying to get it back slowly. But like you said, it's to the
point now where it's almost likewe don't don't have control.
And we're getting to that final precipice where if we don't do
something now, we'll never be able to get control back because

(01:03:26):
then we'll have cars that drive for us, Then we'll have phones
that do stuff for us. We'll have technology that
thinks for us, does work for us,eats for us.
We'll have everything that does everything for us.
And we're just there to provide money.
If anything, money may be labor.Yeah, right.

(01:03:47):
It, it, it's, it's a sad, it's asad future.
And I don't see us but. This is, that's what I mean,
Like this is our final chance tolike make a stand, so to speak.
Like you don't need to go to theprotest and kill a cop to make a
stand. Your.
Stand is, well, however you wantit to be.
Like, let's say you take a personal stand against the

(01:04:09):
electric vehicle thing because you can see it progressing a
certain way down the line. Don't get an electric vehicle,
say your stand is phones, phonesare controlling us.
We don't need phones, yadda yadda.
Don't buy a phone or delete yourphone or do something.
Social media, get off of social media.
If you think it's the governmentitself, then you know, start a
protest group, start a counter culture group, start a free

(01:04:31):
thinking group, start a discord community.
Do something, make a stand. Get what your neighbors you
know, if it's the economy and you feel like you're getting
screwed on the economy, like start teaching yourself.
You know, I think knowledge you need knowledge but don't.
You think that a lot of people would rather just their stance
is like, I'm not gonna I'm not Idon't like the government, so

(01:04:52):
I'm just gonna leave the country.
I. Think their stance is they don't
care. I think most people want to
pretend to care and they just don't.
Yeah, because if they really cared, it wouldn't have got this
bad in the 1st place. Yeah, I think we just don't
care. And I think like we, we joked
about just now, you know, choosethe most convenient option every
time. No, I think.

(01:05:13):
I think people didn't care untilone person yelled so loud and
said hey you're a bad person if you don't care so come on
because you're a bad person. It's not being.
About it's not about being no, but they're.
They're pressuring people, otherpeople into.
And was that you? Yeah, that was me.
I thought I'd turn my leader off.
They're pressuring people into wanting to care, but in reality,

(01:05:36):
most people don't care. Like, like the whole illegal
immigration thing. I'm pretty sure a lot of people
did not care about illegal immigration until someone
screamed. They're like, oh, wait, oh,
wait. I do, I do, I do.
I'm a bad you're you're going tocall me a bad person?
No, no, that one's. That one's a touchy subject
because everybody's got their own stances on it.
Yeah, And like, I want to be patriotic and I want to say

(01:05:57):
like, this is good for the country.
But I also think that there is probably a due process that
could have been like it went toofar to the extreme.
You know, like the the one extreme was letting everybody
in. It doesn't matter who you are to
come in, we'll take care of you.Then the other extreme was like,
hey, everybody that just came in, get the fuck out.

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So now it's like there's too many extremes happening.
Where's the nuance at? But I think with the whole
everything, it's more just about.
Being. Present to me at least, like, if
you're not, if you don't care, that's fine.
No one's forcing you to care. You can live your life however
you want to live it. But that's not necessarily what

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our forefathers had in mind whenthey created the country.
They expected everyone to have like a good idea of their
rights, to know when they're being taken advantage of their
country. Like that's why they left the
UK, right? Because they're being taken
advantage. How come we don't have our own
Boston Tea Party? Lazy.

(01:07:02):
That's it. That's what it is, just lazy.
You know, you and I right now could go out into, let's just
say that road right there, very popular Rd.
Yeah, right there in front of. Yeah, I know, I know.
I know don't, don't say what I'mnot going to.
Say we could go out into that road right now, start a riot,
cause a calamity. That would be on the news
tonight and that would get talked about in history books

(01:07:23):
for the next 100 years. To make a stance.
Why don't we do that first? Of all, I don't think that's
gonna happen. I don't think, I don't think
we're gonna be talked about in in 2.
Reasons Eddie's mentality, whichis our generation's mentality,
society's mentality and laziness.
You think Rosa? Parks thought she was going to

(01:07:44):
get into the history books by not moving.
All she did was sit down. No, I, I.
That's a made-up story. That's not a made.
Up story I I I. Don't know that that that that's
that's a stupid fucking stance to give up.
As you see like that. I I think it's it's I think
that's it was so. That's how bad it had gotten
though for them. It hurt.
The what? Her stance was sitting down.

(01:08:06):
How? Ironic is that her stance was
sitting down but to gain power what I mean?
Is, is I, I think there's too many out, there's too many crash
outs nowadays that they're just going to be like, oh, that was
another crash show. You're right.
That's what sucks. It's 'cause I'm thinking about

(01:08:27):
it too, like if we try to make adiplomatic stance and try to say
like, hey, you guys aren't respecting like what our
forefathers intended for this country, people are going to be
like, up here you go another LA riot, another BL, MB LM riot,
another COVID riot. You know that's that.
This whole riot thing about the illegal immigration is just

(01:08:50):
another fucking just another thing to me, like we this is our
fifth time living through this. It's it's going to get lost in
history. The thing?
Is to me is that people are morefocused on that than like.
The. State of our government, so to
speak, like they're looking at that and they're like, see, This

(01:09:10):
is why our government's messed up.
But. That's like, it feels like
surface level care because once this problem that they're mad
about is gone, they're not goingto care the week after that.
Just give it like a month, all the rights are going to stop.
But like, my thing is like, hey,the government's actually like
lying to us. They're creating diseases.

(01:09:30):
You know, there are really corrupt people in power right
now. You know, they murdered a bunch
of people that were trying to help us.
They've covered up a bunch of crimes.
They've made war profitable. So now we're actively getting
into foreign affairs to get moremoney for ourselves.
And we have a political ties with countries that have
literally tried to kill us before.

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She's smart. Maybe she knows somebody, man, I
don't know. It's old school wisdom.
I can't. I can't knock your mom.
No, she's too. Old school, I feel like she.
Knows something we don't know. She I.
Sometimes she does, but she she she has no clue.
She listens to too many people. You ever?
Hear something that they used todo back in the day that you
wonder, like, why do we stop doing that?
You know, like there is like oldschool tricks that like just

(01:11:25):
worked and made sense that we don't do no more.
Yeah. Yeah, like, I don't know, Like I
think a lot of it was superstition.
Well, no, I've. Saw one that was like a flesh a
fish clock and you take a jar ofkool-aid and you take another
jar and you combine it and you put it outside and then the
biometric pressure will raise the water up to certain levels

(01:11:48):
and then because of that the fish will start to eat.
So it'll tell you when you can go fishing.
It'll tell you like when is the best time to go fishing.
It doesn't matter the lake and you'll catch the most fish.
Fish clock. We don't do stuff like that no
more. I, I, I think it's just a lot
of, I don't know, lots of translation.
Maybe, maybe. I think it's a lot of it was

(01:12:10):
also superstition. No, I.
Don't think it was superstition,you know, I think it is.
I think we stopped going outsideprobably because, I mean, I
haven't fished in like 2 years. You haven't fished in like 3-4.
Yeah. So we don't need a fish clock.
Plus we live in the desert, so fishy's not popular anyways.
But like, things like that and that nature of like, you know,

(01:12:33):
hit the, hit the starter with the rock or a wrench to start
the car when it's not working. But that means you got to get a
new starter. Like shit like that, you know,
little, like quirks and tips that just work.
Yeah. They're all connected to the
real world. And since we're not on the real
world no more, we don't use them.
I I. Do that and then I get scolded
for dinner. Like no, just replace the

(01:12:54):
starter. Like, you know what I used to
watch all the time when I was a kid?
Myth. Myth.
Busters No. Well, yes, I did love Myth
Busters. Did you?
No. I never watched it, really.
Why'd you? Guess myth Busters.
No, I just never watched it. I was but but.
But why'd you guess it? Oh.
For you, yeah, I don't know. It used to seem that like that
type of weird kid to watch it what's what.

(01:13:15):
Wait, what's wrong with myth Busters?
Nothing. Wrong with it.
Why are you saying? Weird because I was learning
about science instead of watching fucking cartoons.
Yeah. I did both and look.
How you turned out. Better than you.
Nope, I hate you. Whatever helps you sleep at

(01:13:36):
night. Why did?
Why? Did you derail the conversation
for that? To insult me?
Yeah. To insult me?
You tried because I watched. You tried to.
Insult me. You're like, I'm better than
you, Eddie. I could I could walk all over
you. It's a.
Joke. Walk all over me.
I know you could. Anybody can walk over anybody.
What are you talking about? I don't walk over you.

(01:13:57):
I hate you. I hate you.
I don't even know what I was talking about.
I don't even do I? Oh, but were you watching as a
kid? And that's in.
Mythbusters. I don't know, I.
Lost it. What was I doing?
Before a protest, yeah. Yeah, we're.

(01:14:17):
Talking about protests. What were you saying?
No, you were. Saying I was, I was.
You were finishing your your statement.
I forgot. My statement I don't where we're
I did. Did we just jump onto a new
topic? You're guiding this episode.
You tell me what to do. How much time are we at?

(01:14:38):
Hour 14. Oh, really?
That's it. Yeah.
I thought it was like an hour and a half because it's already
12. Yeah, but when are we going to
go for like 1230? I thought we're.
Going to go for like 12, I don'tknow you.
Tell me, I don't know, what doesit go?
For another like 10 minutes. All right, I we're, we're on
that protest topic for a while. No, we're on the.

(01:15:01):
Protest for like 15 minutes. Really.
Yeah, we're on the beard. Thing for a while.
The beard. Thing was about 20 minutes.
The style thing was about 15 minutes.
Then we went into control and cars for about 15 minutes and
then we went to the protest. Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if, if
I could go back in time, I want to be there in the room to see

(01:15:25):
what the founding fathers were really talking about and how if
they really did care and if they're only going in into
business for themselves. I'm sure they actually cared
because to me, from my perspective, it seems like they
were building something like they were all passionate like

(01:15:46):
you. You know how we talk about video
games don't feel the same anymore.
I look at it like that. Countries don't feel the same
anymore because you can feel a difference from when you had
people who cared about the country to people who don't.
You know what I mean? I I think.
So, but I think there's a lot ofpeople who are you talking about
this specific country. I'm talking about how

(01:16:10):
politicians viewed the country in the 1700s when it was founded
versus how they view it now. Well, back then there was no
money, so I think you're right, there was more passion.
But once he saw the money comingin and when the golden era came
through, I think the golden era fucked everything up.

(01:16:32):
Yeah, the complacency really fucked us up, but I think, I
think it also ties into like people just giving a shit.
Honestly. I think we're so complacent now
and everything's so convenient that we don't have to.
We don't have to innovate, we don't have to create.

(01:16:52):
Because when you're constantly consuming, you're not creating.
So you're not bored. Yeah.
But a lot of it also is has to do with the.
I think we know too much information and we're not
blinded by patriotism. What do you mean?
We know. OK, OK, so.

(01:17:13):
Like when 9911 happened, I thinkthat was the peak patriotism.
Everyone wanted to go to war. But now 20 years later when we
know the truth and we are like, oh, it was most likely the
government. What?
It wasn't al Qaeda. It wasn't Osama bin Laden.
What? What is that weird?
Accent Bin Laden, Al Qaeda Bin Laden.

(01:17:35):
I've. Never heard you say Bin Laden
before. Why are you talking like this?
I don't know, I don't know. But like, what I mean is that
now that people know the whole truth, patriot patriotism is
dead. So like, even if something bad
happened, they're still going toalways blame on the government
to be like, oh, this, this is not the whole truth, OK.

(01:17:55):
Yeah, let me let me demonstrate my point a little bit better out
of all the part. Oh, OK, let me see.
Let me ask you like this better yet.
Do you? Like RFK Or do you like Donald
Trump? Politician wise, not president

(01:18:19):
wise, not president candidate wise, not anything like that.
As a politician, pure politician.
I think I like Donald Trump more.
You like Donald? Trump as a politician?
More Yeah. How come?
Just the way he talks to people like people respect him and are

(01:18:42):
people respect him and are scared of him.
So. You like you like Donald Trump
because of the image that he has?
Yeah, because. Because when Donald Trump,
obviously, I don't know if how RFK is around other politicians,
but like when Donald Trump came in, everybody just kind of got
in line and just was ready to hear him talk.

(01:19:03):
Like people didn't respect Joe Biden.
People weren't going to respect Kamala Harris because they
didn't have that or to him or, or to them Donald Trump does.
And it's kind of weird to say that because like, I think when
Donald Trump came in, everyone had this preconceived notion
that he was going to fix everything because he had that

(01:19:25):
already or to him. But I think it's starting to
like show that he doesn't have that pepping a step to him
anymore. Pepping a.
Step OK, that's a that's a greatanswer.
Thank you. I wasn't expecting you to say
this aura honestly. Well, no, it's.
True, like I, I. But I think that proves my point

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even more. So when I think of politicians,
I think of people like Benjamin Franklin Thomas Roosevelt.
It's. Abraham Lincoln, It's Teddy
Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt.
I'm sorry. Thomas Jefferson.
I was already thinking of ThomasJefferson.

(01:20:10):
Teddy Roosevelt. Benjamin.
Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, all these guys, right?
Not necessarily because they were presidents, not all of them
are presidents, but because, yeah, they were.
All of them. All of them we just said were
President Benjamin Franklin wasn't your president.
Uh huh. He wasn't.
No, really, what was he? He.

(01:20:30):
Was. I'm. 95% sure Benjamin Franklin
was not a problem. Are you sure?
I'm very sure. Huh.
I'm double checking though because you fucked me up.

(01:20:50):
Why is it on? What the hell is AI mode?
Yep. OK Benjamin Franklin was an
American polymath, writer, scientist, inventor, statesman,
diplomat, printer, publisher andpolitical philosopher.
OK. But he was not a president.

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He was everything but a president.
OK. That's what I think of when I
think politicians. And isn't it funny that we both
misremembered Benjamin Franklin being a president because of how
involved in politics he was? I was just thinking about.
The monies now. Now, now the monies, yeah, like
that. Did you say money or monies,
Monies, monies. Now, when I think of politician,

(01:21:32):
I mean in the sense of like, they gave a shit.
The reason RFK stands out to me was is because he's the 1st
president since probably Reagan.That seems like he gives a shit
or Obama gave a shit too. Don't don't let me discredit
Obama. But like you can tell that he's
a politician and you can tell that Trump's an entertainer

(01:21:55):
because you don't. You're not talking about Trump
because of his political views, because of his diplomatic
changes, because of how he addresses the room, because of
the way he crafted his speech. You talked about Trump because
people respect him, because he'sa person of authority, because
he looks like he has a lot of power.

(01:22:17):
But every single time you've mentioned RFK this episode, it's
been about everything that he's doing in politics and his world
views. Isn't that funny?
Yeah. That's all.
I'm going to say. But if he I want more.
Politicians like RFK, and there are a lot of them out there, but
we don't highlight them. We highlight the people that

(01:22:37):
look like they're in charge and that are the loudest.
And it's funny because whenever we have these kind of
conversations on the show, you're usually talking about how
you dislike people like that whoare very attention needy, very
to themselves. But you and I and everybody else
were attracted to that biologically because they're
supposed to be the leaders and they're supposed to like, we're

(01:22:58):
community driven. We look for strong characters
like that. Yeah.
But in. Politics.
That's not what you want. It's my turn.
Devin, you said it's back and forth.
It's my turn. Whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa all. Right, sit the fuck down.
All right, sit down. I'm sitting.
Down. Call me Daddy.

(01:23:19):
I'm waiting, Devin. I'm waiting, Daddy.
Well, I know I. I heard you calling me daddy.
But in the during the races, RFKwas right there with Donald
Trump. It's just that he lost money.
He he run out of funding for hisparty.
So I'm pretty sure RFK could have beat Donald Trump.

(01:23:41):
What are you talking? About.
I'm talking. About that RFK would have won if
he didn't lose money. So like he he would have been a
president by now. Yeah, but what?
What what what does that have todo with what I'm?
Saying is that I don't even knowwhat I'm saying.
I'm saying when I. Asked you earlier if you prefer

(01:24:02):
Donald Trump or RFK. You said Donald Trump.
Yeah. But now you're saying that RFK
would have won the election. But that has nothing to do with
the conversation. No, no, no.
But. What you're saying is OK.
To be fair, I wasn't that educated with RFKI, just didn't
couldn't hear him because of hisvoice.
But OK. My point is when I look at
politicians and when I look at the people who are making the

(01:24:25):
decisions and I, I look at it, it looks like a fucking charade.
It looks like we have monkeys upon the stage fucking performing
politics. You know, it looks like we have
animals up there pretending likethey know about politics and
everybody's feeding into it. And my example was like, you

(01:24:45):
talk about Donald Trump, but youhaven't talked about any of his
policies or anything that he's, you know, acting because I.
Don't know Congress. Right.
I don't know. I know, I know, I know.
Calm down. I'm making my point, OK?
Right. But when I talked about RFK, you
did mention RFK throughout this podcast, and every single time

(01:25:06):
you did mention him, you mentioned his policies and you
mentioned his thought process. Because of how RFK demonstrates
himself and how Donald Trump demonstrates himself.
I'm saying that politicians likeRFK.
You can feel the difference. Every single time you've
mentioned him, it's been about something that he believes or
something that he's trying to change.
But when we when I asked you about Donald Trump, you didn't

(01:25:28):
mention any of that. You mentioned the way he's
perceived by people. You see what I'm?
Saying that's why it leads into my point of like, we've already
lost control. Real politicians aren't even
involved anymore. Our president's not a real
politician. That's why I think of real
politicians as people like RFK, John F Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln,

(01:25:50):
Thomas Jefferson, you know, people that are involved, people
who care, people who give a shit, Yeah.
And I don't think they're I think they're not going to be
involved anymore. It's all money.
It's all if well, my. Example was that they're not
going to be involved no more, but it's not because of money.
It's because of what I just stated.
You chose Donald Trump over RFK.Yeah, that was your personal

(01:26:13):
choice. I didn't ask you to choose them.
Donald Trump didn't ask you to choose them.
You just did, right in that example.
Not that you choose them as a politician, but that's the
choose. You're like, who do you prefer,
Donald Trump or RFK? So I chose Donald Trump, but
I'm. Get, I mean in the sense of
like, I was giving you choices because you don't know a bunch
of politicians, do you? I don't know a bunch of
politicians. I can't give you an assortment.

(01:26:34):
I could give you like. 10 give me 10.
Politicians like. Legit.
Like, yeah, Trump. RFK.
Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell crap JD Vance.
How many is that 5 back 5 Ted Cruz Oh my God, they say Mitch

(01:26:59):
McConnell already. Yes, I think that's it.
I'm trying to think of of the one from Virginia.
I can't remember his name but I follow him on TikTok.
That's. Why I gave you the choice?
Because then we get lost in this, this conversation.
My, the point I was making was that we get drawn to people like

(01:27:20):
Donald Trump because of their personalities.
So our point earlier was that people don't care.
They just pretend to care. That's true.
They pretend to care and they, and when they care, they care
about the performer, the entertainer, the guy that's just
bullshitting and playing along with the joke.
They don't care about the real thing.
They all care about the performative stuff that's going

(01:27:41):
on over here. You know, that was my point,
but, and it's highlighted because I gave you an example
between something, I guess that's quote UN quote real
because even he's not technically super real RFK, but
quote UN quote real to somebody that's quote UN quote not real.
And you chose the not real only because of your because of how
he's perceived, which is my whole point.

(01:28:02):
It's like we're losing control and we're giving it up and we're
giving it up, you know, willingly because we're giving
attention to the shit that doesn't matter and not giving it
to the shit that doesn't. Right, Right, right.
But. What I'm trying to say is that
people who give a shit, they're going to be banned from from any
election because as long as it doesn't align with the big

(01:28:24):
pharma, with companies, as as long as it doesn't align with
them, they're going to not even let them through.
They're going to gatekeep them from from even putting their
name into the election. So you're we're going to from
now on here on 4th, we're all we're going to get our
personality contest and who you like more.
That's it. So then why don't?

(01:28:45):
We stand up to do something. Devin I, I.
I see no way there. Like our voices are not going to
matter anymore. Like I don't care.
It's, it's back to how our, our our world views.
Yeah, all goes back. You, you're hopeful that your
voice, your tiny voice is going to change, but it's not from

(01:29:07):
here on outward controlled and II think that's it.
I think we're not going to change the world anymore.
That's why I. Argued the point with Russell
Parks. Because I was like something as
insignificant as staying in her seat.
Later helped define an entire movement that changed culture as
we know it moving forward. But that's.

(01:29:28):
When they still had freedom, butwe.
Still do? No, we don't.
Devin, we don't we, we're losing.
It actively yes, but we still doI.
We we're, we're, we have no freedom.
That's OK. I you can believe that, but
that's why I can, I can still make the point that people
should be aware of this. I'm not saying that you have to.

(01:29:48):
I'm making the point that you should.
If you don't listen to any of what I'm saying right now,
that's fine, right? I preach it every week or some
version of it every week, but there's.
Always going to be someone in inwho's hopeful, even even a
prisoner in a prison. You are saying that are saying
that they're free question. How come it frustrates you
whenever we talk about this? I don't know.

(01:30:11):
I don't know. I think it's the optimistic side
and it's you don't like my. Optimistic side no, I think.
It's the what's the word? It's the hopefulness.
No delusion. It's a delusion side of you
coming out. Do you think it's delusional for
me to want a better future? I think.

(01:30:32):
It's delusional for you to thinkthat you still have a choice in
reality in making. A better future, yeah, but why
does that frustrate you? Because I I.
Know we can't I I'm like 100% positive that it's just what
made. You 100% positive.
What gave you concrete proof that we can't?

(01:30:54):
Just just the fact that with allthese protests and all, every,
every process that's happened with BLM, to Corona, to even the
elite illegal things, nothing's going to be done.
Nothing has been done. It's just a a bunch of empty
promises. Do you think it's a waste of

(01:31:14):
time? I think it's a.
Waste of time. What if they're getting
fulfillment out of it? Go.
That's fine if If your fulfillment is is to build a
table, build a fucking table. If your fulfillment is to go
destroy buildings, I don't agreewith it.
But if that makes you happy, go ahead.
What if I? Get my fulfillment by talking

(01:31:36):
about these things on the show with you because I like your
input. Then it's.
I'm just catering to your fulfillment, just like my
fulfillment is like, for example, of watching wrestling.
Oh well. Teach their own.
Whatever helps you sleep better at night.
OK, that's. Fine, but I'm asking like you
like you get defensive and like really like again, I.

(01:32:00):
I am I I It's because your delusion.
But why does that? Buggy.
I don't know, I. Think it's I just don't like
delusional people but I'm not. Delusional.
No. No.
No, I'm I'm you're delusional inthis sense.
That's it. And and this subject.
Oh my. God, I think it's politics.

(01:32:21):
I think it's politics. I think it's.
Politics. You're right.
This is this. Is politics to you?
Because in your head you're like, there's you're wrong.
And I'm like, OK, that's fine. And you're like, yeah, but
you're wrong and I'm like, OK, Igot it.
Cool. No, no.
You're like you're wrong, but noI'm.
Not saying that you're you're wrong for even doing that, but
it reminds me of politics. No, but.
What what what you're you're you're misconstruing it.

(01:32:42):
I'm like, you're wrong. You're like, yeah, but what
about this? You just keep adding on to it.
It's the. We're we're having a topic.
It's a podcast, not talking about the I know.
But what I mean is if I tell youyou're wrong, you're like, cool,
that could have that could have been the end of the
conversation, but you just want to keep.
But it's a. Conversation, right?

(01:33:04):
It's a podcast. Yeah, I.
Know we're talking. About it, Yeah.
You asked me about it, and I have to respond to what you say.
No, you asked me. About it, I asked you about the
no but. Like you asked me about it.
You're OK. So then what if about this?
I'm like, well, then yeah, we could do this and then you're.
But Devin, you're wrong. I'm like, OK, I get that.
So let me rebuttal. I think it's.
It's just politics, but that. That's, that's what I'm saying

(01:33:26):
is like to me, I don't think it's that big of a deal to talk
about these things and talk about them freely because it can
inspire people and change people's perception on it,
right? But to you, you think I'm tired.
I'm trying to change your mind about politics, but I'm not.
To me, this is a conversation about things that are happening.
I haven't brought politics into this once.
I haven't told you what side of the fence I lean on.

(01:33:48):
I haven't told you that I want RFK to be president and not
Donald Trump. All I've told you was that there
are people like RFK who care andpeople like Donald Trump who
don't care. There are people in the past who
have cared, Democrat and Republican, that you can feel a
difference because they care. And I demonstrated that by
saying somebody like RFK, whether you agree with him or

(01:34:11):
not, whenever you reference him,you reference his thoughts.
Whenever you reference Donald Trump, you reference his
personality. I'm like, those are the
reflections of right politicians.
I'm like the politicians that I usually align with are like this
temperament wise, perception wise, there's no point where I
got into politics. I'm not trying to change your

(01:34:32):
mind on politics. I'm talking about the the
events. Yeah, but I'm.
And I told you that that's that those have politicians are gone.
They're they're, they're going to cease to exist.
I but I didn't say they're they they're in a bun.
I didn't say anything about it, but I'm.
Telling you that that it's not going to happen, but.
Why? Why are you telling me that I

(01:34:53):
just told you the fucking? It's all about money now.
I but. I'm not saying that I need to.
I'm not asking why there's not going to be any more politicians
like that. I'm asking why do you feel the
need to jump in and tell me that's never going to happen?
When we're talking about it as atheory, as a as a thought, as a

(01:35:14):
what's the word I'm thinking here, we're talking about it as
a concept, as a topic, as a discussion.
We're not talking about it like I I didn't know.
We were on that same track. That was like a legit thing.
What are you talking? About what do you mean I, I, I?
I didn't know it was it was a what if?
I thought it was just like what At what?
Point. Has it not been a What if I'm

(01:35:35):
talking about how it was? It like I didn't know.
I'm like we're. Losing control.
These are ways we're losing control.
These are the difference in politics.
These are how the world. This is what changed this hold.
On hold on. You voted these past 2
elections, right? I voted.
Since I've been able to vote, yeah.
And yet you voted for the personwith the personality.

(01:35:56):
Why didn't you vote for RFK in in the in the primary?
Why are you? Starting are you?
No, no, no, but. No, but you're because you told
me I chose a personality, yet you chose a person in my.
Example, Yeah. And what are you talking?
About are you talking about actual politics?
No, I'm. I'm, I'm thinking back, I'm
like, wait, he voted for a personality, but I'm not

(01:36:17):
talking. About who you voted for.
I didn't. Vote.
Don't you get that? I have not mentioned who you
voted for? I said in my scenario, who are
you choosing? Do you prefer this person or
this person? I never said who did you vote
for, Eddie? No, but you.
Said You chose Eddie, you chose Donald Trump because over these.
Two, Yeah, I gave you an why? Why?

(01:36:37):
OK, First off, I think I see theissue here.
Why are you mad that I highlighted you chose Donald
Trump? You did on air, but I I.
Chose him not because of his personality.
I chose even if you did. What's wrong with that?
I didn't. You're you put words in my mouth
saying that I chose him for his personality.
But that's what. You told me I just.

(01:36:59):
Said it's Aura. That's it.
That's. OK, what is that?
Is it? I don't think that's
personality, is it? That's temperament, that's
personality. That's how you present yourself
to the world. That's a mood.
That's that's a social hierarchyright there.
That's psychology. That's biology.
That's evolution. Oh, that's not.

(01:37:19):
Politics. Oh.
My bad. What?
The. Fuck.
You miscon. I think that's what it is.
You misunderstood what I was trying to say this whole
conversation I think. So I think so.
At no point. Was I ever talking about your
political stance or choice on your political stance?
I said in my scenario, I was like, who do you prefer, RFK or

(01:37:41):
Donald Trump? And you said Donald Trump and I
was like why? And then you told me for 5
minutes uninterrupted that because of the way people act
around him, the way they straighten up his perception,
the respect, right? All of that, his aura, that's
personality, OK, right? That's the example.

(01:38:04):
Example A, you chose personality.
Example B was, let's say, heart,hope, ideas, you know, history,
authenticity, so to speak, and you still chose the personality.
Now, I'm not trying to highlightthat to make you go see Eddie's
a bad person because he likes Donald Trump, everybody and make

(01:38:27):
the moon men, people hate you. That's not my intention.
I was highlighting that to demonstrate how we are
psychologically through evolution.
It's in our biology to choose people like that.
So when I say our politics look like a circus, that's a very
deliberate choice by our government.

(01:38:48):
And when you're saying that there are no more politicians
who care, you're right and you're wrong.
And when you say it's about money, you're right and you're
wrong. It's about money, but not
because they're not bringing in money.
It's because it's the governmentcontrolling it.
They're controlling which candidates will get more
backing, which candidates will get more presentation time,

(01:39:09):
which candidates are going to gofirst, in which order.
And I'm trying to highlight the hypocrisy in our judicial system
where it's like, hey, this guy, you know, a third party elected,
third party self nominated, is struggling against these guys
because of how our country has been set up by our grandfathers

(01:39:33):
because they lost control, OK. OK at no.
Point was, I like Eddie's a piece of shit who aligns himself
with Donald Trump, and he's wrong for that.
I OK, I I think I'm I'm startingto get, I think in that example
and. Because we lost control and
we're focused on things like entertainment in our politicians

(01:39:53):
and not world views. And because we're learning,
we're losing how to stand up forourselves.
We're losing our willpower. We're losing the ability to
think for ourselves because of the technology that we use on a
daily basis. And we're just trusting the
higher powers. We then start to believe that we
have no free will and that we can't do nothing against the

(01:40:16):
higher powers because that's howthey want us to think.
Because in actuality, if we all start to protest, or we all
start to make our voices heard, or we all start to do things
that go against what they're trying to put out there and how
they're trying to make us behave, then they have no
control. Do you understand?

(01:40:37):
Yeah, Now. Now that you broke it down like
that, OK. Not I was never trying to attack
you or your political views. And every time I bring this up
on the show, it's never to attack you or your political
views. Is to talk about the situation
as a concept from afar so that we can understand what's
actually happening or what theoretically might be actually

(01:40:59):
happening. So you should.
Lead off with that, but when I. Say it like this.
And when I break it down like this, you guys hear big words
and tune me out. I haven't.
Toned you out you. Haven't toned me out now because
I'm breaking it down. I'm telling you that you were
wrong and that I'm not trying tosay you're a Donald Trump
aligner. Right.
So now I have your full attention.
Yeah, but before, if I was like,well, theoretically.

(01:41:20):
With the. Astrophysics of the world and
the you guys tune me out. As soon as I say a word you
don't recognize, you tune me out.
That's how it is. It's fine.
So to work around that, I have to present my information in a
different way. And I know I can see when you
tune me out. Like I see it in your eyes, I
see the tune out. I can see exactly when your

(01:41:42):
brain tunes out. And I'm like, I can't let him
tune out because then he's not going to know what I'm trying to
say. See, but if you broke it down
like that, I would have been on board the whole time.
I just in my mind, I I just something switched.
Yeah, because when we when people talk about politics, it
switches and they assume that their own personal choices

(01:42:05):
reflect their character as a whole.
And if they choose somebody who turns out to be a bad person,
then that makes them a bad person.
When it doesn't. That's not how that works.
People make mistakes. Like you can choose somebody for
how they present themselves. And you're not wrong for falling
for that facade when all you didwas take them at their word.

(01:42:27):
And other people are going to make you feel bad because
they'll be like, well, I told you he was a bad person.
And it's like, OK, well, you sawsomething that I didn't.
I chose to take them at their word.
That doesn't make me a bad person.
And just because our views differ doesn't mean that we
can't be friends. We can learn to, you know,
become friends. I think that's that's.
A new thing too. What being?
Friends with people who don't? No.

(01:42:48):
No. No.
Hating someone for a different political view, no.
It's been around, it's been around.
I I've definitely heard older Jens be like, and he's a fucking
liberal. Fuck that guy.
I don't talk to my cousin because he's a fucking red
Democrat or whatever. You know what I mean?
Red Democrat. I've I've.
Nothing. So go ahead, I just.

(01:43:08):
Realized what? Yeah, a red Democrat.
I was like, huh? What a.
Donkey. I I feel like that that's a new
thing. I feel like people started
hating it because I don't remember people hating each
other for the politician they chose.
Because there's a lot more respect in politicians back
then, no? Politics have always been crazy

(01:43:30):
because always been crazy. But the difference is like what
you said, respect. They respected other politicians
even if they didn't because like.
I was watching an old clip with Mitt Romney and Obama, Barack
Obama, that was a. Crazy race on that and.
Mitt Romney's like I, I respect this fellow to my left.
He, he has a beautiful family, abeautiful wife.

(01:43:52):
He, he's a caring father. He said all these good things
about him. He he never once said he was an
old tag. That's what I mean is that
somewhere along the lines, politics turned into
entertainment. And once I think the government
realized how much money they canmilk from it, it became a
cornerstone of our country now. Because even when nothing's

(01:44:16):
happening in the politics world,something's happening like
politics. World.
Yeah, like with the whole Elon Musk and Donald Trump thing
falling out, people are highlighting the shit out of
that here. Look at, here's an example.
And then we can end this up because we got we extended the
time a lot just so I can explainmy point to you, but yet it was.
An entertaining episode? Yes, it was.

(01:44:36):
OK, so I love Fallout. I love Fallout as a series,
right? Right.
And I think we have talked aboutthis loosely on how Fallout
mirrors our world to some extent, but I plan on doing a
mission log on this or maybe making it a feature episode if
you're willing. So I won't go too deep into it.

(01:44:58):
But one thing in the lore of Fallout is for those of you that
don't know, the world ends. Nuclear war happens in the year
2077. The world ends.
The reason everything looks likethe 50s is because we never
evolved the way that we did in our timeline.
Now, right before the bombs dropped in that world, the world

(01:45:22):
was being ran by corporations and billionaires who were
pretending to be politicians. And they gained control way back
in the 1950s. And we're there the entire time.
And we substituted politicians for companies.

(01:45:42):
And then the companies decided what we got to do when not only
our country, but all countries. And now I'm seeing that exact
same thing happen in our own reality, which scares me because
now instead of knowing the namesof politicians and their
political views and what they'retrying to do for our city, our

(01:46:05):
country, our counties. We're.
Focused on whether or not Elon Musk and Donald Trump are on
speaking terms. Elon Musk is the embodiment of
what I'm talking about. Because Tesla has been an active
working company for I think what, 25 ish years, Something
like that. They've been in the background
this entire time. Elon Musk took them over in like

(01:46:29):
2013 and ever since then he's never left the public zeitgeist.
And now it's getting to the point where he's involved with
politics, he's aligned himself with the side, and he's gained
notoriety and power outside of that that he can then use.
In. Unison with his power from his

(01:46:49):
money and his company to make decisions that'll impact the
entire world. Now, I don't know about you, but
I never voted for having Elon Musk have power and to be
deciding things for my country when he's not even from the
United States he's from. What?
South Africa? I think he's.
Canadian, ain't he? No, I think he's.
African. Huh.

(01:47:12):
Well, he's not American. Yeah.
He's not. American and he's he's
contributing to what America is.Why are we having?
Foreign. Advisers dictate what's
happening inside of our own country because they have money.
And not only Elon Musk, but thenwe also got people like Mark

(01:47:35):
Zuckerberg, and then we also gotpeople like Jeff Bezos.
Jeff. Bezos and Phil Spencer.
Who's that he's? Just the director of Xbox and
Microsoft for the Americas and all of these guys, they all know
each other. They all hang out in the same
social circles. So then leads me to think, who's

(01:47:56):
really in control? The monkey on stage with the
suit behind the red flag or the company that's endorsing the
event? Yeah.
And I feel like it's been like that for quite a bit, right?
It's been like that since at least the 1900s.

(01:48:21):
Yeah, I want to say at least like 1920, because that's when a
lot of these corporations and companies started.
No, I feel like. It was way sooner than that.
I feel like it was probably likein the 80s.
It started before and it startedwith.
I. Don't think it was company, I
think it was mafias. Well, Mafia's played a part.

(01:48:42):
There's it's not just one movingpiece.
There's a lot of moving piece. But right now, like if we had to
pinpoint it to one specific thing, like one origin, like
Hitler, right we we originated to when he was born.
If we just kill Hitler before hewas born, none of that would
have happened. If we killed, I want to say
capitalism, but capitalism is what makes our country unique.

(01:49:05):
I think if we killed companies being able to have as much power
as they do without. Answering.
To the government, we would be living in a different world
right now because corporations like Marlboro.
Coca. Cola, Tesla, Amazon, whatever.

(01:49:26):
Insert company here. They all have pools to the
political world and to the government.
But don't you? Think that it's better that they
chose us instead of another country.
Fuck. No, because, because.
If that was the case, I think wewould have been one of the not

(01:49:47):
poorest, but we wouldn't have been the richest country in the
world. The road to heaven feels like
hell, and the road to hell feelslike heaven because.
If if we didn't give them the power somebody else would have,
let's say China, they would havebeen the the superpower that
nobody would fuck with. The statement.
Still stands. Road to Hell feels like heaven.

(01:50:12):
We think we're in a good spot because we're the ones
benefiting and we're the ones with the technology and we're
the ones on top. And that's the wrong mindset to
have. I don't think anybody should
have any of this power. I don't think we should be in an
arms race with other countries and trying to be the first to
get here or do this and control that or master this.

(01:50:32):
I don't believe our government should have put so much money
into shit that doesn't matter. Like, you know, biological
warfare, nuclear warfare, Yeah, but.
Don't you think that it's it wasalways going to be an arms race?
No. I.
Think they made it into an arms race.
And I think it was backed by corporate companies.

(01:50:52):
And I think people like JP Morgan have always been involved
with our politics. And only now are we starting to
see it on a grand scale because,like, JP Morgan stopped
electricity being free from everybody.
Yeah, you know. I don't.
Know what extent Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg have involved

(01:51:17):
themselves in politics. And that's the scary part, is we
won't know for another 100 years.
Nobody knew that Tesla, Nikola Tesla was trying to make
electricity electricity free foreverybody until after the fact.
Yeah, so nobody. Knows what Elon Musk, Mark

(01:51:40):
Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and insert company here is doing to
make our lives harder so that they can continue to benefit I.
I We can always assume and have an idea, but it won't.
We won't know until we're dead. We can assume, and yeah, that's

(01:52:00):
true, but I don't even want to assume.
Why are we assuming to begin with?
Why should he? Why did he get to a point where
companies and politicians are intertwined?
My. Politician shouldn't be getting
sponsored by an electric companyor a shopping company or be
hanging out with the people who made those companies.
And just because you're rich, that doesn't mean you should be

(01:52:22):
able to get a hang out with decision makers.
Yeah, but I. I I think they kind of force
they, they were, they, they wereback into a corner, those
politicians, because if they didn't get that sponsor, they
would have, they would have got kicked off the race, yeah.
So who's really in control? It's.

(01:52:43):
Always been the corporations. You're switching your stances
every 30 seconds here, man. You can't go.
It's always been the corporations I've.
Been on that stance, I said it's, it's always been money and
it's a corporations it's. Always, it's always been money.
But it's not, it's not the way you're saying it.

(01:53:03):
I think it's more about what yousaid.
You know why you chose Donald Trump in that example?
In the example because. I guess personality now.
Because of the power. It's all about power,
motherfucker. What is it?
The power for the personality. Personality.
Is the actual reason psychology is the power?

(01:53:28):
OK, do you get what I'm trying? To say yeah, but.
I feel like that's been an obvious thing.
I don't know how. I think everybody has known that
it's always been corporations and hasn't been a real
politician. You know that, but you don't

(01:53:48):
like, you know that, right? That sounds basic.
That sounds obvious. Yeah.
So then why don't people know that with Donald Trump?
They know that they they, Elon Musk said he wouldn't have won
without me. No, I'm.
Saying yes. Elon Musk knows that.
Thank you. Yeah, but.
So then. Why?
Why are we still giving them if we all know that that's

(01:54:10):
universally known, right? You're making it seem like this
is basic knowledge. Everybody knows this.
Why are we still up to date on all of Elana's news?
Why? Why do we still care?
Why do we still give him a platform?
Why are you still following him?Why do you watch videos with his
face on it? Why are you still giving the
money? Why do you still shop on Amazon?
Why do you still got those subscriptions?
If you know that to be true and you've known that this entire

(01:54:33):
time, quote, UN quote as an example, why do we continue to
do it as a as a community worldwide?
There's not enough people who care.
That's my point. That's what I was getting out
with, the whole politicians thing.
That's why it ties back into talking about it on the show, to

(01:54:56):
get people to care and to remindthem to care.
I don't know how many people aretruly going to carry after this
episode. Very.
Little most of the people aren'tgoing to listen after this
episode. Yeah, like, isn't it funny?
Whenever I tell people I'm goingto get off my phone or I'm going
to stop using my phone, they go,why?

(01:55:16):
Hey, I'm going to delete Instagram for a week.
Why? Well, if you're genuinely
curious, because I think it's hurting my mental health.
Why? But why are you deleting it?
Just stop using it so I don't need it.
I didn't need it 20 years ago, why do I need it now?
But why do you? Need to delete it.
Isn't it? Crazy.

(01:55:37):
How do we get brainwashed into that?
How do we get to that point? It's just.
It's they're true. Just stop using it.
It's just going to be there my. Thing is, we give them the power
by continuing to give them a platform, give them our money,
give them our attention. Yeah, you're right.
The protest that we've been doing, they don't work.

(01:55:58):
So protest by protest with silence, protest by not paying
attention to them. I the.
People did them with Walmart with when the tariffs first
began and nothing happened. So what was what was?
It's not an overnight. Change.
You don't you don't start day one and get your end result by

(01:56:18):
day two. Yeah, but I'm pretty.
Sure, you could see a big dip within that day, no?
Social change didn't happen overnight.
That's why it took decades and dozens of movements and multiple
different leaders to come out, and it had to be mentioned in
movies and songs and television shows for it to become
commonplace. It took 80 years of propaganda

(01:56:42):
and telling people on a daily basis to care about Black people
and treat everybody nicely for everybody to start caring about
about Black people and treat everybody nicely.
Like and even now we still have a lot of racist people in our
world. It doesn't happen overnight.
It's. It's I think.
I'm not saying that. You're not going to get rid of
race. My example being if you want

(01:57:03):
change, change takes a long timeto come.
It's not going to happen overnight, right?
So if we go in with the mentality that if we don't see a
result, nothing's happening, then nothing will ever happen
because we'll be waiting for change overnight when we should
be waiting to see it 20 years inthe future.
You don't plant a seed and get atree the next day.
I. I think people misconstrued that

(01:57:24):
because they want change in their lifetime, they want to
experience that change. They don't care about the
future. I care.
About the future. You.
Truly care about the future. You so like, if you've got all
the whippings on your back, you're gonna be like, my kids
aren't gonna go through with this, My grandkids aren't gonna
go through with this. Yeah, 100%.

(01:57:47):
That's why. And what was it?
The last episode, the episode before that, when we were
talking about war, I said I would want to go to war so that
my little sister doesn't have to.
And I think if we have more people with that mentality, we'd
be able to fix a little bit morewrongdoings in the world without
having to do much. It's just a selfish world then,

(01:58:12):
because people want to they theywant things to change for them,
not for their kids. What do you want?
I'm on that. Side I'm like if realistically I
don't care about any of this butlike let's say we I did, I would
rather me experience the good then have my kids go through

(01:58:34):
through the good. Well, at least you're honest.
Because. Because like that quote, hard,
hard times make good men good, good times make weak man,
something like that. So like, if we're going through
the hell, our kids are going to recreate that hell.
It's just going to be a cycle. The our kids are not going to

(01:58:59):
know how good they have it. We're.
Kind of in flow right now. So do you want to keep going or
do you want to start wrapping itup to go to the store?
Let's. Let's just go for another like
30 minutes or 15 minutes. I I can see.
How into it you are? And this is what I want so I
don't want to end it. So I just want to make sure like
another. 15 minutes, OK. OK.
So go ahead, restate your last statement.
Get us back on track here. I think if we go through the

(01:59:25):
hill, US personally go through the hill and our kids come out,
come out of it and see the good,they're just going to create the
hell again. There's always a chance, yes,
but. If.
You raise your kids to have the same mentality as you, or you
try to raise your kids to have the same mentality as you.

(01:59:47):
You can't foresee what's going to happen because then you're
right, it could go and turn bad,but you can always hope that it
turns good and it's not going to.
It's not going to be an instantaneous thing where it's
like. All right, all the good's
happening, here's the bad. And then you just give it to
your kids and disappear and go into the afterlife.
You're going to be in round for the next 100 years.

(02:00:10):
Let's just assume, right, 80 years at the very least.
So let's say you have kids, in 10 years, you're going to be
around for a majority of their life.
You'll still have a say in how things go for a majority of not
only their life, but your life. So if we see some of these
changes coming as soon as withinthe next 20-30 years, you're

(02:00:30):
still going to be around, right?So what do you feel about being
around with some of these changes taking place?
I'm, I still think that the kidsare going to be too spoiled.
Like let's say there's a problem.
We, we go through hell to fix a problem.
And when the problem's solved, our kids are born.
They're they're not going to know.

(02:00:53):
That. Problem they're just going to be
like, hey there, there was a problem 20 years ago let's like
relive it again. I, I it's.
Do you think that? History is going to repeat
itself. It's going to make the same
mistake I think. History always repeats itself no
matter what. It's just the history that
repeats itself is just remastered.
I think you. Live too much by the words of

(02:01:14):
men and take it as truth. History repeats itself.
Yes, that's true. But that doesn't mean that every
historical event will repeat itself.
No, no, that's. Why?
And it doesn't. Mean that it doesn't.
It's going to. Get remastered is what I mean.
But. That also doesn't necessarily
mean that the next generation isgoing to be the one that's going

(02:01:35):
to mess it up or the generation following.
It could also be 10 generations from now.
My point, and I think the reasonwhy you believe that he could
still end up being the next generation is because you don't
trust other people, no? It's not that.
Look, look at generations beforeus.
Like with the, let's say racism,right?

(02:02:00):
Our. Grandfathers tried fixing that
and they couldn't do it. Our fathers tried doing that.
They fixed it a little bit. How we're us.
We're fixing it. It's getting better.
Our kids are next. We don't know how they're going
to react. Let's just assume that they they
do, they do better, but they don't.
So it's going to go back to the same problems our grandfathers

(02:02:21):
face. That train.
Of thought to me, seems like youdon't trust other people because
you know why? Because you assume that you're
going to do all the work on yourkids, right?
You're like, I'm going to train my kids to not be racist and
they're not going to be racist, so I'm going to make sure

(02:02:42):
they're not racist. But.
Then I know that somebody else says kids are going to be
racist, and so then racism stillaround.
So then my kids might end up being racist or other kids might
end up being racist. So then I raised them to not be
racist for no reason because other people were racist.
And it comes back around and history repeats itself, which

(02:03:04):
yes, is a fairpoint that could happen with anything.
But that's where our mentality is coming.
Because if we're if we believe that that bad things always
going to happen and we use that as an excuse to stop us, then
nothing ever happens. Be so I have to raise my kids.
Let's use the racist example to not be racist and hope that

(02:03:25):
everybody else in my generation does the same thing.
And I know that a majority of them will because generation
after generation, racism is going down.
Like racism itself you can't getrid of.
So it's still around. But in terms of like racist
crimes, hate crimes, the way we treat other people, it's
definitely improved as a society, you know, And I don't

(02:03:48):
mean to be rude here, but like, my family didn't.
My family's never had black friends, like anybody older than
me, they've never had black friends.
They didn't associate with anybody outside of their
culture. They might have had one white
friend, but it was OK to have white friends.
Me having so many mixed friends,Native American, black, white,
Asian, you know, British, Australian, Japanese.

(02:04:12):
It makes. My family uncomfortable and
there have been times where I'vetalked about like introducing
some family members to some of my friends and they get
uncomfortable. They're like, I don't want to
meet that person. I don't like that race or
whatever. And so like, yes, you're right.
It was still prominent back thenbut yet they were also very
accepting of like newer culturesand it was better than their

(02:04:33):
parents before them so I know. Moving.
Forward, it's going to be a little bit less racist.
It's still going to be around. It's going to be a little bit
less though. And so I can take pleasure in
knowing that my efforts didn't go to waste.
And I think it comes back to that too.
So not only do you trust other people to not follow suit, you

(02:04:53):
feel like your time is going to be wasted, but it's not because
you're making something better. And even if it gets worse, if it
eventually gets better again, then that means you contributed
towards that. No, I don't.
I don't know it. I don't think it's a trust issue

(02:05:14):
thing. So why?
Do you? Why do you see no point in like
we won't go racism cuz that's like it's, it gets too specific.
Yeah, let's say it's just makingthe future better.
Why do you think there's no point in trying to make the
future better if history repeatsitself?
Cuz it's gonna it's a cycle. Like if history repeats itself

(02:05:38):
and in the next 5 years there's going to be a World War, then we
know 20 years from now there's going to be another World War.
Why? Because.
History repeats itself. We're just using that example.
History repeats itself. Can.
You give me examples of how history repeated itself that to
you demonstrate it as a fact of life.
So that proves your 100 years process there has been a.

(02:06:01):
World Disease OK years ago was Spanish food.
Before that it was a plague. Before that, I don't know what
it was the. Plague was 14 hundreds I
believe, 13 hundreds, so it. Was then I got my diseases, so
100 years old, Spanish food 100 years before that.
What was it? I don't know but it I saw that
and then every 80 years there was a World War or the start of

(02:06:27):
a World War. Except for World War 2.
I can't remember exactly what itwas, but I know how to do with
80 years. OK, well.
If it happens twice, that's a coincidence.
If it happens three times, that's a pattern.
But we haven't had a third WorldWar yet, and we're going on
almost 80 years. Yeah, but.
What with the whole Israel and Iran thing war happening now

(02:06:52):
we're right there and with. The whole disease thing again,
we only have two instances, so we'd have to wait another 100
years for to see if that'll happen again.
Yeah. So without, you know, attacking
you in any way, that to me doesn't.
Show as. Proof that it's pointless to
keep track. No, I, I.
Wish I had the proof but I don't.

(02:07:13):
I've seen I've seen videos abouthistory repeating itself, I just
don't know where it's at. Is that enough for you to
completely, 100% put your backing behind it?
Yeah. Really.
In in my opinion, yeah. So.
If history repeats itself in your thought process, what do
you think about the advancement of society?

(02:07:34):
Because, like, if history just repeats itself, how come we've
been able to advance year after year, decade after decade since
I wanna say the let's just say the 1600s from when we were
using stone yeah, to make tools to now it's.
Eventually gonna go back to that.
It's eventually gonna go back tothe stones.

(02:07:55):
How? I don't know.
It's just gonna. Happen.
We're gonna. Stop evolving.
I'll just say that I think we'regonna stop evolving.
You think? We're evolving currently.
Technologically, yes. Humanity.
No. So you think we'll stop evolving

(02:08:17):
technologically and then we're still?
Going to be people, but we're not going to be people.
We're not going to have empathy.We're not going to have.
So you think? We're going to evolve past the
point of humanity and become ourown species.
No, I think. We're going to go.
We're going to go past. I think we're just going to be
robots. No feelings, No.

(02:08:38):
And then we'll. Become robots in the future,
right some. Let's just well, we evolved.
Past the point of being human, being human meaning like having
feelings and thinking the way wedo now.
So we literally just evolve intoa new species right in.
A way new subset. Of humanity, yeah.
OK, but how could? We do that if history repeats
itself. I think events is what I mean.

(02:09:01):
OK, so given that, to me that seems like a contradiction.
And so, OK, let's not focus on events.
Why don't we evolve our psychology as a species, as a
collective, so that bad events won't happen or bad things won't
happen to our collective speciesas we continue to evolve, right?

(02:09:26):
Do you think that's pointless? I don't know.
I don't know. A lot of a lot of the things
you're going to bring up is me saying I don't know because I
haven't put any thought into it.But that's.
My, that's my thing. And again, I'm not trying to
attack you here. It's like if that's your
philosophy for life, so to speak, it has to be unwavering

(02:09:50):
to some degree, right? Like those are your morals, so
to speak. That's part of your morals.
That's your philosophy to life, right?
So again, without attacking you,what makes you believe in those
morals so fundamentally that it prohibits you from inspiring
change in the future? Here here's a.

(02:10:12):
Good. Here's a good answer.
I don't know. A lot of, like I said, a lot of
the things I'm going to tell youis I don't know because I never
put into that, into it. I never thought it was so
important to put that into it. Maybe it's stubbornness, Maybe
it's a carelessness. Do you think it's?
Important to put that into with this new realization, I guess

(02:10:33):
with no more context. No, I don't care.
I think it's a waste of time personally for me.
What's a waste? Of time for for me.
What? Specifically, is a waste of
time. Having wanting to change my
mindset or wanting to what am I trying to say?

(02:10:55):
Do you think me? Trying to convince you is a
waste of time. Yeah, but I'm not trying.
To convince you, I know. But I know you're not, but if
you were, I think it'll be a waste of time.
But I'm I'm, I'm giving you answers because I'm trying to
help you figure out what you're trying to say.
What is a waste of time I think.Me trying to ask my questions
about the future and all that and if me wanting to do better

(02:11:20):
for the future. I think personally it's a waste
of time and wanting me personally wanting to put myself
out there and change the future,I think it's a waste of time.
I don't think it's a waste of time for you to do that, though.
Yeah, I. Know, and that's fine, but I
don't want to do that. I don't want to go protest for

(02:11:41):
the future. No, no, no.
But we're not talking about thatin this new example, because
we're talking about the evolution of our species and not
the the events that play out. Yeah, now we're going.
Back to my mindset, right? I'm more than anything right
now, I'm picking your your brainand learning how your mind
looks. I'm lost where we.
Are I'm picking. Your brain and learning how your

(02:12:03):
mind works so we can continue the discussion.
We pause so that I could figure out what you mean.
OK, so because this is this is my way of learning.
This is how I learn how you think.
This is how I learn what your thought processes are, right?
But you. Shouldn't learn all the way
because my mind's going to change.
I know it's going. To change.
I'm not learning all the way. Nothing I take is concrete.

(02:12:25):
The only concrete about you are the things that I've seen since
I've met you. Personality traits and things
about you that you can't change.Yeah, right.
I'm only asking in the context of this conversation where it
becomes a question of whether ornot even trying to contribute to
the betterment of our species isworth it.

(02:12:46):
So in that context is in that context.
Do you mean in general or me specifically joining in in quote
UN quote change in the world you.
Specifically ties into the. In general, no, because you
specifically is everybody I I don't think.
So because how when you ask me that question, I I thought, me
personally, am I going to join that?

(02:13:08):
Not generally. That's exactly.
What I want though, that I want you personally.
Oh, OK. Then me, me.
I don't want to be a part of me changing the future.
Generally I want there to be change in the future.
I love the. Way you just said that is.
Is is a waste of time for me to change the future?

(02:13:31):
Yes. Is it a waste of time to change
the feature? No.
Oh, I. Love that.
I love the way you said that. Unfortunately, I think because a
lot of people have your mentality.
That's. Why?
We get into the situations that we are, and it's not your fault.
I'm not saying that you did anything wrong.

(02:13:51):
All you did were was placed on this earth at this specific
time. You had nothing to do with how
the world is right now, right? So your mentality has nothing to
do with the state of the world right now.
So there's no reason why you should be attacked for having
your mentality right now. Unfortunately, I.

(02:14:14):
Want. To say probably close to 90% of
the population probably feels the way you do.
I want change. I think fighting for change is
good, but I think me fighting for change is pointless.
Yeah. Right.
Yeah, Now if. 90% of the population feels like that.
That's 90% of our army, our being the people who want to

(02:14:38):
ignite change. Yeah.
But you got to remember that theminority is the one who makes
who speaks the loudest, the yes,the.
Minority speaks the loudest, andthey're the.
Ones that get the change. And they are the ones that
initiate the change, yes, but change doesn't happen unless.
You get. Everyone to come around to that
change. Think of it like a discord

(02:15:01):
server. If you wanted to change.
Let's say you, me and a friend group started a discord server
and you wanted to change the theme of the server.
Currently it's sci-fi theme, butyou want to change it to like a
fantasy theme and you want us totalk about video games while
we're on there instead of talking about movies all the
time. You would need to.
Get the entire group to agree tothat change.

(02:15:23):
Right? You can't just be the loudest
minority and expect it to happen, no.
You you could just get the majority of the.
Majority, yeah, I guess not the whole, but the majority.
So so. Like if it's ten of us, I only
have to give 5 of you. That's half.
You would have to get like 6 or 7.
Fine, fine. Six, you need a.

(02:15:44):
Majority. Now, that's my point.
If the majority of people have the mentality that change is
good, but they're not gonna participate in that change, then
there's a majority percentage that you're right and we're
fucked. Now if I never take the time to

(02:16:04):
stand up and go, hey, join us, we lose the fight.
You see what I mean now? Yes.
We need. You guys, as much as you think
you're not part of this. Yeah.
But I think a lot of us won't join in the fight until we see a
change, until we see that curve.That's, that's what, yeah,

(02:16:27):
you're right. And that's what sucks, is trying
to remind people that change doesn't happen right away and
that you have to, you have to beselfless in a sense, to go back
to your point earlier and put the ticket in for your children
and your children's children andyour children's children's
children, knowing that they'll benefit off of the decisions

(02:16:48):
that you and your peers make today.
Yeah, but. Like I said before, once we make
it easy for them, they're just going to create problems that
we've solved already potentially, but that.
Doesn't involve events. I've never.
I haven't said anything about events in our example.

(02:17:08):
Remember, we're talking about the evolution.
Yeah, but. In my mind, if once we solve
this problem and made it better for our kids and our kids kids,
we're just making them weaker, we're making them spoiled, no.
What we're doing, whether it's evolution or events, is we're

(02:17:30):
repairing the bridge, so to speak.
And when you repair the bridge, what happens?
It becomes liable for something to break again.
Right now, it's up to that generation who's walking across
the bridge to take the time to fix it like.
Example, our grandfathers, they made it easy for us by them
fighting in world wars or in pointless wars, yes, right.

(02:17:54):
So we had to create a whole new gender in order for problems to
escalate again. We had to create AI for them
there to be problems again. We had it.
We had it easy. So we got bored and decided to
create new problems. No one.
Created a gender for me. No, but.

(02:18:15):
What I'm it's I'm saying events,I'm saying, but you're the.
One that tell that told me earlier that we're not focused
on events because trying to change events is pointless.
And if that's your mentality, then you're right.
Yeah. So my again, this whole current
context is under the context that you're signing up to make

(02:18:37):
the future better. Future being evolution wise for
our species so that you have nothing to do with the vents.
Then it doesn't matter if they created another gender that
doesn't apply to you because you're focused on the species in
that context, right. So signing up to better the

(02:18:59):
future humanity in that context,evolution in that context,
moving on to the next species inthat context, would involve
things like getting rid of gender, OK, Because gendered
species are inherently less evolved than genderless species

(02:19:21):
in some contexts, especially when it comes to free thinking
and astral projection and. Space.
Anomalies and things of that sort.
You know, when you start gettinginto the realm of evolution and
higher thoughts of being, you'regetting into fourth dimensions,
you're getting into ether, you're getting into

(02:19:43):
consciousness, you're getting into hippie stuff.
Why, why, why are we on this? I I just said a problem that we
decided to create even though itwas easy for us, but we're not
talking. About events.
Remember, we were talking about the evolution of species, and we
were talking about that it was pointless to jump into the
evolution of species. Yeah, the evolution of species
isn't events. No.
But what I'm trying to say is wesolved the problem, right?

(02:20:08):
Let's say we solved the problem.What problem?
There's a problem. We protested, we went.
But that's not your. Thing you said that was
pointless, fine, I changed my. Mind 20 years ago I just changed
my mind to what? I don't.
Know man, the. Reason we set up this last 30
minutes of redirecting was to talk about evolution.
And now you're going back to events.
Yeah, I changed my mind. Why did you change?
Your mind. I just spent 30 minutes setting

(02:20:30):
up evolution conversations. Yeah, but like I.
Astral. Projection and consciousness in
an eternal state of being, I thought.
We cosmic. Forces, I thought.
We were picking my. You were picking my brain to.
Redirect the conversation for your thought processes into
consciousness evolution. What I was?

(02:20:53):
Picking your brain because I wastalking about the advancement of
our species and the betterment of mankind.
And I was talking about it through the context of events
and unison as a species and overcoming events and creating a
better future for humanity to evolve and live in Earth, right?
But this pertains to events, things like politics, things

(02:21:14):
like companies, things like control, things like day-to-day
living. But you were telling me that
events are pointless because history repeats itself.
Yes. So I was like, OK, well, if
that's your mentality, I'm not here to change your mind.
I'm here to have a conversation.So what about if I say the
betterment of future for evolution, Hero for evolution?

(02:21:35):
Yeah, it makes sense. Let's evolve the species.
OK, so now let's transition and talk about that.
How do we evolve the species? Well, the first thing would
probably be getting rid of gender, because we don't need
gender for a species in unison. When the fuck?
Did I say that we're. Talking about evolution of
species now, right? No.
I I thought we you were picking my brain just to are we talking

(02:21:57):
about? The evolution of species or not?
No, we're. Not that.
That's why we. Moved on from events.
I'm not here to change your mindabout events.
I thought we were. Just on, on just the betterment
of the future, yeah. Now we're moving the species
forward. What?
What? No, I my entire thing was.
If. You asked me it it it is a

(02:22:21):
pointless to change. I said me, I don't I don't want
to change whatever. What why I just said.
But this whole time I thought wewere talking about just a
generational thing. No, you.
Said it's pointless to focus on generational things, so I'm
like, you're right, I. I what I meant is it's pointless

(02:22:41):
for me, Eddie, for a generational thing in general,
it's important, yes. And I'm getting to that.
So. The reason, and I said that
earlier too, I said the reason it's not pointless for you to
believe that jumping in is goingto make a better future.
And I said especially in the context of evolution for

(02:23:02):
humanity, because you're, you'recompletely right.
If we're trying to evolve humanity, that should be our
focus, right? We shouldn't be focused on
events cause history repeats itself.
So get the events out of here completely.
History repeats itself, all right, No more.
Don't focus on politics. Don't focus on none of that.
That doesn't matter for a species.

(02:23:23):
Who's controlling us doesn't matter for a species events and
how much gas is doesn't matter for a species in terms of
evolution. OK, you get what I'm saying.
Here, now, what does matter for species in evolution?
Unison would probably be one thing, right?
When we think of aliens, we don't think of female aliens and

(02:23:46):
male aliens. We think of little grey guys,
right. Just things, yeah.
They're. Unisex.
Yeah, They have no gender. Yeah.
That would be the logical next step in human evolution.
So then theoretically supportingthem creating another gender
would align with your beliefs because then at that point they

(02:24:08):
are working towards human consciousness evolution by
getting rid of genders. Now we're a genderless species
and we can focus on mental improvement and clarity and
connecting ourselves with higherconsciousnesses, right, Devin?
I think. We should understand that I'm
fucking lost. I'm I'm lost like.

(02:24:31):
What? What do you mean?
You're lost. You're getting.
I'm getting confused now becauseyou're getting lost.
How are you getting lost? One minute you're trying to pick
my brain, right I. Picked your brain already.
That's over. Yeah, it's over.
Now now now I know it's over. Why the fuck are we talking
about genders and shit? Just for the for the evolution.

(02:24:55):
I I stopped caring after my kidskids.
But that goes. Against what you were saying
earlier, you said you don't evencare about your kids.
So now why do you care about your kids?
Kids. No, I, I.
This whole time in terms of. Helping people and bettering the
future and all that. You said there's no point in
changing events, right? OK, fine.

(02:25:17):
We won't. We don't.
You don't focus on any events for the rest of your life. 911,
Something happened to 911. Who cares?
A bunch of Jews died 100 years ago.
I don't give a shit. Doesn't matter, history repeats
itself. More Jews are going to die.
Why do I care about these Jews? That's the.
Mentality, right? I don't understand because then
when we're talking about the context of.

(02:25:39):
Bettering. Humans and society and culture,
you're like, it's pointless, I think.
It's pointless, yes. So what?
What? I don't understand I'm.
I'm just confused. I'm I'm confused.
Because we already. Had the the discussion earlier
with the majority. Remember I need more people from

(02:26:03):
your side to join my side to enact change.
We already had that conversation.
What are we talking about here then?
Why are you bringing genders in?Because we're talking.
About the evolution of human consciousness.
But why? What does this conversation have
to do with our everyday lives? Because you.
Were saying there's no point in changing the everyday lives and

(02:26:24):
I was like, what if there's a point in changing the way we
think for the betterment of our species and then you're all yes,
there's a point to doing that. So then we started branching
into that conversation. My my.
Head's hurting Devin. Why?
That's another pointless conversation like the.

(02:26:47):
Evolution of consciousness in inmy.
Opinion. It's pointless conversation.
What do you want? To talk about I, I, I think.
Yes, it's important, but do I want to fucking talk about?
No. What do you want to?
Talk about I, I don't. Know like but you let.
The conversation here, I don't understand you following your
lead. No.
I even asked you if you want to stop and you're let's keep

(02:27:08):
going. I just dissected everything that
you said. But in my mind, I we're going
over there and you fucking got the where, Like, let's go over
here. What are you talking?
I'm so confused now. What are you, what are you
talking about? Because I've been very clear
since I re explained myself an hour and a half ago.
Yeah, on what I've been trying to say.

(02:27:32):
Yeah. And I thought we were going to
go in a completely different direction.
Did you think we're? I don't know.
I'm the one leading, but somehowit got back to you.
No, you. Were the one leading and you're
the one that kept bringing up like politics and stuff like
that. So then I started dissecting and
bring up politics. Then I re explained myself and
then I asked you leading questions and then you followed
my leading questions and then you brought up other

(02:27:55):
conversations that led into those questions.
So then we continue to have thisdebate and go deeper into it and
figure out new places that we haven't been before.
And then we started transitioning that into
evolution. And then you got confused and
got mad at me. No, I'm not.
Mad I'm just lost. I'm confused.
You just initiated this amazing conversation and didn't even

(02:28:18):
know you were a part of it. Yeah, I, I.
I didn't know you're the one. That started this.
No, I didn't. You kept asking me questions.
You know what this? Is making me realize you say
things without realizing what they mean.
You just say. Things.
I just say things and you decideto dissect every syllable and
every fucking letter and the wayI wrote it too.

(02:28:38):
No, it's. Not about that.
You'll be like it doesn't matterabout changing the future.
That's a big loaded, heavy question statement.
That's how you have a podcast. Let's let's talk about that.
What the fuck I I didn't? What did you want?
To talk about fucking Elon Musk's new dildo, I.
No, I didn't want to talk. I just wanted to.
You started this. We've been talking, we've been

(02:28:59):
having fun. This has been a back and forth.
Yeah. Why are you so confused?
Because I like, I didn't know we're going to go in this
direction. I thought.
You told me to say the fucking pocket pussy for the pot for the
podcast you never brought. It up.
I forgot about it. I looked down right now and I
saw it. I'm just.
Confused on how the fuck we got here?

(02:29:21):
Are you not part of this conversation or like, I don't
understand. I thought you were listening to
me. How are you confused?
I was going. To say.
Something you don't understand or did I?
I don't get it. I don't get how you can be
confused. If you're listening to what I'm
saying, I'm listening. But I just don't know how the
fuck we got here. You turned us here.
No, I. Didn't you kept asking me

(02:29:43):
questions and I was answering your questions?
I'm like a. Train driving and what you did
was you switched the tracks and then I went with you, I switched
the tracks and you're all why are you on that track?
You just switched the track. You.
Just you. Just said I was leading you into
this new conversation. Yeah, you were.
You LED, you switched tracks you.

(02:30:04):
All all I said was a bunt ass statement that I thought had no
fucking meaning. You decided to get that
pointless that's what. Do you mean it?
Has no saying something like. I don't think we should focus on
trying to make the world a better place.
How could a statement like that have no meaning to?
Me it doesn't have. Any meaning?
I, I, I I see no, no fucking meaning to that.

(02:30:28):
And that's inherently interesting, and that's what
makes a podcast. So then we talk about that and
we explore that, and then you get confused.
Yeah, 'cause I. Didn't know we were going to go
into that statement, but you started.
That. I just said a pointless
statement. That's it.
And if you. Wanted to move out of it.
Why didn't you move out of it? Because there were several

(02:30:49):
points where I was just like, oh, well, I kind of forgot what
I was talking about. And then you're all we were you
talking about change and then wego back into change.
You could have guided us at any point.
Just like in my speech where I said you have the power to
change the world, You have the power to change this
conversation. Yeah, but it would.
Have been stupid if we're why hold on it?
It would have been stupid if we were talking about change and
then we started. We jumped onto my pocketbook.

(02:31:10):
We do that. Every episode.
Why did when did you start caring about it?
That's our show that that. That I guess that's on my that's
on me. This is what happens when I take
control, Devin. We're all over the fucking place
and we get lost good. I like.
This episode, you're going to take control.
Next one too. No, we're not.
Yes, you are. Then.
We're not recording episode if I'm in charge.

(02:31:30):
OK there. You go, you're making decisions
now, you're putting your foot down, you're living, you're
saying shit. You're meaning what you say.
No, I'm not. Because we are.
Going to record. I just said another point, that
fucking statement and get you took fucking.
Oh my my God, I took you. For your words, yes.
I'm just saying pointless shit. Why?

(02:31:53):
Just to say. Shit, because you told me,
Eddie, you need to talk more. So I'm talking more without
thinking and putting meaning into into my statements.
This is what happens when I takeI when I when, when I'm when I'm
in charge. But this was.
Awesome. Why are you saying it like
that's a bad thing? Because.
I I was being sarcastic when I said no episode and you're like,

(02:32:14):
good for you. No, you're you're taking charge.
I was just being sarcastic, man.OK, Like I, I, I'm just
flabbergasted. That's it.
I'm just confused. This was a good.
Episode This is my. Least favorite episode you were
having? Fun 30 minutes ago, No I wasn't.
You're this is a. Very interesting episode.

(02:32:35):
Again, pointless ass statement. OK, there are different ways to
be a good actor for a podcast than just saying the first thing
that comes into your head. If that's your intention.
If you're trying to be lively for the show, there are better
ways to do it than just saying that, because then I take it at
face value. Like I guess that's a.

(02:32:59):
Communication thing, Eddie, you're just thinking that I'm
going to catch these things and just assume that like, you know
when I say something that's not.True versus when you say
something. I say something that is, yeah.
Especially on the. Show, right?
Yeah. There are been very rare.
Businesses where you stop me andgo play, What are you talking
about? Because then you catch it.
I can't fucking tell. If you're being serious or not,

(02:33:20):
to me, it sounds like you're being serious to me.
And to you, you're bullshitting.And then when I ask you, you're.
Yeah, I'm being serious. And I'm.
Are you? No, no.
It's for the show. And so then even I get confused,
like if you don't mean it, don'tsay it in a way that makes me
feel it's your delivery. Yeah.
OK. Fine if I say if that's the
case. Then.
I'm going to really stop saying stuff.

(02:33:41):
What? That's not what I want.
I'm not telling you to stop saying stuff, but I'm telling
you to be careful about how you say things.
But that's. My whole thing, I just say shit.
If that's your whole thing, thenwhy are you?
I'm going to be mean. Why are you so bad at it?
If that's your whole thing to say stuff, then you should be

(02:34:02):
fucking awesome at being able tochoose words that mean things
and put them together. I'm.
Better. So how?
Is that your thing? I'm just.
I just say shit. See what I mean?
I just said that word without. Thinking I put no.

(02:34:27):
Science. No thought into my statement
majority of the time. I don't.
I don't. You just threw me all off.
I don't I don't so like was thiswas everything about this
episode just fake? You were just saying random shit

(02:34:49):
at. That moment.
So then what was true? What?
So let's say now. I'm even more confused.
You're telling me no, it was real?
You just spent the last. 10 minutes convincing you it was
fake. I'm.
Ending it, I'm ending it. I'm getting too confused.
This was a good episode. I'm not going to let you ruin it

(02:35:09):
by over explaining yourself on something that doesn't matter.
Have a great week everybody.

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