June 24, 2024 • 23 mins
Ever wondered if clear communication and accountability could be the keys to unlocking your small business's full potential? Join me, Laura W, as I sit down with Adam Knapp, the insightful owner of Knapp Creative Coaching, to explore transformative strategies that can elevate your entrepreneurial journey. Adam reveals the five essential elements—communication, accountability, clarity, awareness, and action—that can create a balanced and thriving business environment. Discover how aligning strategies with your business's mission and vision can help you avoid common pitfalls and navigate the complexities of small business management.
Through engaging metaphors and real-world examples, we delve into the importance of having a cohesive strategy for business growth. We discuss how a well-crafted business plan can serve as a research tool to explore new ideas and prepare for an uncertain future. Adam shares valuable insights on overcoming personal barriers like self-sabotage and low self-esteem through deep, honest conversations. Tune in to learn how vulnerability, combined with a powerful mindset, can lead to true transformation and long-term success in your entrepreneurial journey. This episode is packed with practical advice and actionable tips you won't want to miss.
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Laura (00:08):
Good morning.
I'm your host, lauraVodniknetsch, owner of Mosaic
Business Consulting, and you'relistening to this Mosaic Life
with Laura W.
Mosaic is a bunch of piecesthat, when put together, make up
the whole in a really beautifulway, and this show plans to
discuss the various pieces of abusiness throughout different
industries and how these pieces,when put together, can develop
(00:30):
a better, more efficient andeffective running of your
business.
So to reach me, contactbizradious.
Today, my guest is again AdamKnapp, and you may have heard
the interview we had a couple ofmonths ago.
This is going to be a follow-upto that, which I think is going
to be outstanding, which is whywe have him back on the show.
(00:53):
So I love this, and Adam is theowner of Knapp Creative
Coaching, five Elements ofTransformation, and it has been
leading people towards successin their lives for three decades
.
As a leader, educator, mentor,coach, father and journeyer
himself, adam has discovered howto assist others in finding
(01:16):
themselves successful at whatthey are aiming towards, using
mindfulness tools, businesstools, organizational tools and
many other tools lots of tools.
A client discovers what to donext for their success.
Most journeys begin with somany unknowns and head towards
(01:37):
new discoveries and new knowns.
The problems arise whenever weget in our own way, which,
frankly, is all the time.
So that is where he plans tocome in and he leads clients
through the unknowns through theuse of his tools and success
(01:58):
points easily identifiable bythe client, identifiable by the
client.
And he's all about followthrough and commitment, and
often are really the bestmaintained when helped with a
committed ally like him.
So I really want to thank youfor being here, adam.
Welcome to the show.
Adam (02:19):
Yeah, thank you so much.
I really appreciate yoursupport and your insights in all
this, Laura.
It's been fun havingconversations with you.
Laura (02:27):
Yeah, I've really enjoyed our conversations, and one of
the things that you and I werejust chatting about were those
five steps in thattransformational model and how
they can apply themselves to a,an entrepreneur.
So what would you like to sharewith our audience in reference
(02:51):
to that?
Adam (02:52):
Well, you know, I've been thinking a lot about how, for me
there's this five elements oftransformation which are
communication, elements oftransformation which are
communication, accountability,clarity, awareness, action.
And when those elements in asmall business or even in a life
(03:14):
but let's just focus on smallbusiness when those are
harmonizing and when they'rebalanced, there's a sense of of
kind of equilibrium and in anice flow that happens.
And to make those things be inbalance take some concerted
(03:36):
effort and I like calling it themandala of meaning when you
have the those five elements inharmony.
There, harmony there's asynthesis that people, that
small businesses, can feel asthey're plotting forward and
growing their business.
And what's interesting and wekind of mentioned a little of
(03:57):
this just a second ago or aminute ago or so, like the idea
is, you got to have some tacticsand strategies involved to grow
your business, you got to havea mindset in place to grow your
business and if those aren'taligned with the, with the
mission and vision of of havingan impact in the community,
(04:21):
there isn't success.
And I think something that'svery common and you were really
clear on this in your statementis when people don't have a
business plan, when businessesaren't strategically aligned
with some forward thinking, someresearch, some planning, some
(04:44):
risk-taking, there's going to befewer successes and that's
disappointing because certainpitfalls can be avoided right.
Laura (04:55):
Yeah, and I'm just listening to what you were
saying and I was thinking.
So many of the people that Italk to and try and help them
with their business plan haveall this motivation, excitement,
enthusiasm and energy towardtheir goal of achieving this
business.
But without the right framework, which is what I think you're
(05:17):
really alluding to it's reallyhard for people to have a path
forward because they they it'snot even necessarily just being
in alignment, though that's abig chunk of it because if
you're not aligned with yourvision and mission and values,
then you don't know how to moveforward, and it's the how-to
(05:39):
that people get stuck on,because there is always and
maybe you can, can you know,chat about this a bit there are
shiny objects that capture ourattention and bring us in
opposite directions of where wereally need to be, over and over
and over, and I I would succumbto that same issue all the time
(06:00):
.
I have to do a check-in withmyself and say do I really need
this?
Do I really have to go downthis rabbit hole?
Right?
There are a lot of people whodo that.
Adam (06:09):
So, yeah, well, I mean that's just, I mean this.
You know there's a lot oh wow Inour culture today.
There's also an over-reliance onidentification of cause and
effect and, and I think, for thehuman development and for the
strategies for individuals togrow and develop as just people
(06:32):
themselves and then put on topof it the idea of growing a
business, One of the things Ifind that I work well with is,
yes, growing a business is, istakes work, it takes strategic,
strategic planning, it takesforethought and you know,
growing a business is pushing anunknown thing into an unknown
(06:55):
future and there's a lot ofanxiety that comes up with that,
there's a lot of trepidationthat comes up with that, there's
personal belief systems andmindsets, that sort of start
kind of taking over from action.
And I think having a coach orhaving a counselor or having
some support for small businessowners, especially on the
(07:18):
initial kind of first five-yearframework, is it helps step past
some of the habits and theproclivities and the desire to
get distracted instead ofstaying on the path.
And I mean a business plan is aresearch project that gives a
(07:38):
business owner permission tofiddle around with ideas, fiddle
around with some math and dosome statistics and maybe even
some spreadsheets, and look atan unknown future with their
dream.
And then it also, if you lookat it really closely, it becomes
(07:59):
a pathway and it's reallypowerful, you know.
Laura (08:05):
Yeah, I don't know that it's.
You know, a business plan isn'tall statistics.
A lot of it is just, you know,people being able to frame what
they want to do but also, inthat process, understanding how
what they're going to do differsfrom their competitors, not so
(08:28):
they can compete per se, but sothat they can get a part of the
market share and build theirbusinesses effectively.
But I find there are reallyonly about four sections in the
entire plan that requireresearch.
But, that being said, what Ithink you really captured well
here is this idea about mindsetthat we are so often asking
(08:55):
ourselves to do X, y or Z, butnot having the right frame of
mind to do that.
Adam (09:02):
Yeah, and I like your clarification there.
You're right.
I mean, a lot of the businessplan is just, you know, simply
looking at what you know theidentity of the brand can look
like within the market and thenthe mindset to push toward.
(09:24):
That is often, you know, Ithink, mindset is supported with
facts.
Supported with facts.
I don't think I can wake upevery morning with the right
(09:44):
mindset and get a lot done if Idon't have some strategy, if I
don't have some action plan, ifI don't have some clarity about
what I'm trying to achieve.
And so what I kind of meant byyou know, you know, taking the
business plan and looking at itand doing some research and
gathering some information is is, I think that's where
motivation comes from for me,for a person like me.
(10:07):
I get motivated if I get clearabout information.
Laura (10:12):
Absolutely, absolutely Well, and it's less intimidating
.
I find that it's fascinatingwhen you first start going
through that path with people,and this is where you're talking
about the coach can really help.
Is this idea that you know it'sso daunting because there's so
much information you don't knowwhen you're starting this
(10:32):
journey, or at least most peopledon't know, and then they're
having to play catch up and thenit's like, well, which thing
should they focus on?
And they get distracted, theyget, you know, encouraged in
different ways, and and so whatI like about the coach that
you're talking about is two ofthe components that I well,
(10:56):
three that you've talked aboutin in the past, which are the
clarity, the accountability andthe communication.
Yeah.
I think those are are a powerfulcombination.
Why can you speak to how thatcan advance an entrepreneur's
journey?
Adam (11:20):
Well, yeah, because the harmony of those create an
awareness and because when wefeel comfortable and we feel
emotionally grounded, when wefeel like we're not truly you're
risking so much that we arepushing into the unknown,
there's a sense of awarenessthat comes about.
(11:42):
You know, accountability cansimply be following up on a
calendar invite andcommunicating that it's still on
and that there's going to be aconnection.
And accountability can also bethe sense of having you know, if
you said you're going to dosomething on such and such day,
that you do it and you followthrough.
(12:02):
It's like building buildingyour, your brand, building your,
your, your values, sustainingsome sort of your, the efficacy
of, of follow through andcommunicating accountability,
having that clarity, clarity.
Something's cool about clarity,laura, and that is when we get
(12:25):
clear about our mission and ourvision, when we have kind of a
crystalline sort of aha or wecan write it down on a vision
board or whatever, somethingunderneath starts happening,
this deeper sense of awareness.
And when we have awareness,because we have clear
(12:47):
communication, we haveaccountability measures in place
, we're having insights that areinspirational.
We're having insights that arecreative.
We're having insights that areuh, uh, inspirational.
We're having insights that arecreative.
We have insights that are, youknow, profoundly like, uh, I
guess, underscoring our purposefor our business.
(13:08):
All of that, the interplay ofit.
We get action and we have, wecreate the next steps, we create
the next marketing strategy orthe next reel or the next, uh,
you know, rack card to put inthe, you know the, the visitor
center or something it's like.
(13:28):
There's this interplay, youremember I I remember, in when I
was in elementary school andwhen I also worked as an
elementary school teacher, wewould have a parachute and we
would all line up around theperimeter of the parachute and
we all grab the parachute andpull it taut and everyone could
(13:49):
feel each other pulling eachother.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And then the teacher would putthe ball in the middle and you'd
move the ball around Right.
For me, having those fiveelements of transformation
aligned is having like anintentional decision on where to
move that ball across theparachute.
There's a sense of empowermentand the result is you can see
(14:18):
the result you seek, plan it,put it into action and, most
likely, get the result you seek.
Laura (14:29):
Yeah, because you're talking about there, too, a
sense of cooperation and thatharmony that you're talking
about Absolutely, and I lovethat.
There's always going to be pushand pull, and you know, in
everything we do there's sort ofa yin and yang, if you will.
And and then what does thatreveal about us?
(14:49):
What does it, what does it,what does it do for us or what
does it challenge us to do?
And so I really appreciate whatyou're saying there.
It's like, yeah, and I can onlyimagine so, are you suggesting
that in this transformationalapproach that you have, it
(15:10):
requires not only this clarity,communication, accountability,
but it's sort of like a pushingthrough of, and so this goes
back to that mindset that youwere talking about, like a
pushing through, not like, oh,we're sludging through, but sort
of like when that we need toseek out that next aha moment,
(15:34):
if you will instead of focusingon what we've already done to
get greater clarity, to getfurther transformation, we need
to be seeking something.
Can you help me here?
Adam (15:52):
No, yeah, I mean really.
I think what it comes down toand this is where I think the
coaching piece comes in is weneed to be seeking where our
obstacles lie and we need to beovercoming obstacles.
And so we've successfully goneaway from the conversation of
just business plan management,plan management.
(16:17):
What we're talking about iswe're not only talking about the
ideas being transformationaland then creating a business
that's successful.
We're talking about identifyingaspects of the human that is
pushing the plan, and whatthings, what mindsets, what
heart places are getting in theway from anything like, I don't
(16:40):
know, like um, self-sabotage orlike having a low self-esteem or
I have no idea what you'retalking about, adam I know I
mean I or having anxiety, orhaving procrastination or oh
goodness, no, no, no, I'mperfect.
Laura (16:58):
What are you talking about?
Adam (16:59):
Yeah right.
So I think for me, what I'mnoticing is when I can get into
a really good conversation aboutstrategy and then details are
in, fitting you know, filling inthe different sections of the
business plan, I start getting asense of what a client thinks
(17:22):
like, behaves like or makeschoices around and start
observing what is being avoided,and most often the things that
we avoid are actually the thingswe need to push into.
Laura (17:41):
Oh, so true, so true, and it's almost.
And in that, what you're alsospeaking to is this need, that
we not a need but a should, ifyou will.
That we not a need but a should, if you will I hate using that,
but that we need to look atourselves inwardly in order to
(18:02):
express ourselves outwardly theway we want.
Adam (18:08):
Exactly.
And that's absolutely, and oneof the things that I'm finding
that's super, super fun is doingthat in the context of building
a business.
That's going to have an impactfor the family or the person or
for the community.
And imagine the growth of abusiness while a person's
(18:30):
growing themselves by overcomingobstacles and managing mindset,
growing themselves byovercoming obstacles and
managing mindset it's there's awin-win, that's.
Laura (18:37):
it's unequivocal hmm, yeah, yeah.
Well, in in in your work withpeople, then, what is sort of a
process that a person might gothrough to get to a place you
know where they are making these, they're having clarity and
(18:57):
they're moving forward andthings like that.
Adam (19:00):
You know, interestingly enough, your conversation and
really deep listening goes along way and I find that when I
sit down with clients and I asksome pretty open-ended questions
that also then lead towardsvery pointed questions, we start
(19:24):
finding out where a person'shopes lie, lie and really, once
we can get to the bottom ofwhere a business owner or a
person clients like really whatthey want to achieve, like where
their goals are immediate,mid-range, long-term goals, that
(19:50):
conversation starts having somehonesty to it.
And once we can start havinghonest, you know, conversations
with some feedback looping orsome sort of deep listening, you
know we can start finding somevulnerability hmm, and finding
(20:12):
maybe places where there may besome you know an opportunity to
get out of one's own way.
Laura (20:19):
Well, and to that, I got to say one of the things that I
hear about and I'm concernedabout, and we don't have a whole
lot of time, but I just wantedto say this vulnerability issue
you're tapping into really canscare a lot of people like, oh,
I don't want to be vulnerable,right, but right, um, I think
what we need to say is we'rewe're vulnerable even to
(20:42):
ourselves.
I think that's the the big part, less to another person, right?
Adam (20:49):
right, and that's that, and that's good distinction
there, and that's really allthat we're trying to do is give
someone permission to truly showup as themselves.
Yeah, yeah.
And to do that in the contextof pushing the business forward,
you're going to have moresuccess in the short term which,
with some guidance and somesupport and some wins, you know
(21:12):
that person, you know thatindividual, that client can feel
a lot more confident in whatthey're doing in this
nebulousness of growing abusiness?
Laura (21:24):
Nebulousness, love the word Well.
So we're out of time and I'mwondering if people want to
reach out to you and learn moreabout how you can help them.
How can they contact you?
Adam (21:37):
well, go to netcreativeorg , go to my business website, uh,
and connect with me throughthat channel.
There's a way to uh email me.
You can also go to my socialmedia channels with Facebook,
business or even Instagram, andjust message me.
Connect with me, email me ifyou want at adam at
(22:01):
napcreativeorg, and we can get aconversation started.
I like to meet for tea.
I like to meet for walks.
I don't mind phone calls orvideos.
Laura (22:11):
And that's K-N-A-P-P.
Adam (22:14):
Yeah, k-n-a-p-p.
Yeah, k-n-a-p-p.
Yes, yeah.
Laura (22:16):
All right, well, thank you so much.
I really appreciate theconversation, adam.
It's great to have you on theshow.
Thank you.
Adam (22:23):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Appreciate your time.
Laura (22:25):
Absolutely, and I want to encourage you as an audience to
listen to this again or othergreat episodes of podcasts here
on bizradious and click on showsto find out more information.
Thanks so much for listeningand have a great rest of your
day.
Good morning.
I'm your host, lauraVodniknetsch, owner of Mosaic
Business Consulting, and you'relistening to this Mosaic Life
with Laura W.
Mosaic is a bunch of piecesthat, when put together, make up
the whole in a really beautifulway, and this show plans to
discuss the various pieces of abusiness throughout different
industries and how these pieces,when put together, can develop
(00:30):
a better, more efficient andeffective running of your
business.
So to reach me, contactbizradious.
Today, my guest is again AdamKnapp, and you may have heard
the interview we had a couple ofmonths ago.
This is going to be a follow-upto that, which I think is going
to be outstanding, which is whywe have him back on the show.
(00:53):
So I love this, and Adam is theowner of Knapp Creative
Coaching, five Elements ofTransformation, and it has been
leading people towards successin their lives for three decades
.
As a leader, educator, mentor,coach, father and journeyer
himself, adam has discovered howto assist others in finding
(01:16):
themselves successful at whatthey are aiming towards, using
mindfulness tools, businesstools, organizational tools and
many other tools lots of tools.
A client discovers what to donext for their success.
Most journeys begin with somany unknowns and head towards
(01:37):
new discoveries and new knowns.
The problems arise whenever weget in our own way, which,
frankly, is all the time.
So that is where he plans tocome in and he leads clients
through the unknowns through theuse of his tools and success
(01:58):
points easily identifiable bythe client, identifiable by the
client.
And he's all about followthrough and commitment, and
often are really the bestmaintained when helped with a
committed ally like him.
So I really want to thank youfor being here, adam.
Welcome to the show.
Adam (02:19):
Yeah, thank you so much.
I really appreciate yoursupport and your insights in all
this, Laura.
It's been fun havingconversations with you.
Laura (02:27):
Yeah, I've really enjoyed our conversations, and one of
the things that you and I werejust chatting about were those
five steps in thattransformational model and how
they can apply themselves to a,an entrepreneur.
So what would you like to sharewith our audience in reference
(02:51):
to that?
Adam (02:52):
Well, you know, I've been thinking a lot about how, for me
there's this five elements oftransformation which are
communication, elements oftransformation which are
communication, accountability,clarity, awareness, action.
And when those elements in asmall business or even in a life
(03:14):
but let's just focus on smallbusiness when those are
harmonizing and when they'rebalanced, there's a sense of of
kind of equilibrium and in anice flow that happens.
And to make those things be inbalance take some concerted
(03:36):
effort and I like calling it themandala of meaning when you
have the those five elements inharmony.
There, harmony there's asynthesis that people, that
small businesses, can feel asthey're plotting forward and
growing their business.
And what's interesting and wekind of mentioned a little of
(03:57):
this just a second ago or aminute ago or so, like the idea
is, you got to have some tacticsand strategies involved to grow
your business, you got to havea mindset in place to grow your
business and if those aren'taligned with the, with the
mission and vision of of havingan impact in the community,
(04:21):
there isn't success.
And I think something that'svery common and you were really
clear on this in your statementis when people don't have a
business plan, when businessesaren't strategically aligned
with some forward thinking, someresearch, some planning, some
(04:44):
risk-taking, there's going to befewer successes and that's
disappointing because certainpitfalls can be avoided right.
Laura (04:55):
Yeah, and I'm just listening to what you were
saying and I was thinking.
So many of the people that Italk to and try and help them
with their business plan haveall this motivation, excitement,
enthusiasm and energy towardtheir goal of achieving this
business.
But without the right framework, which is what I think you're
(05:17):
really alluding to it's reallyhard for people to have a path
forward because they they it'snot even necessarily just being
in alignment, though that's abig chunk of it because if
you're not aligned with yourvision and mission and values,
then you don't know how to moveforward, and it's the how-to
(05:39):
that people get stuck on,because there is always and
maybe you can, can you know,chat about this a bit there are
shiny objects that capture ourattention and bring us in
opposite directions of where wereally need to be, over and over
and over, and I I would succumbto that same issue all the time
(06:00):
.
I have to do a check-in withmyself and say do I really need
this?
Do I really have to go downthis rabbit hole?
Right?
There are a lot of people whodo that.
Adam (06:09):
So, yeah, well, I mean that's just, I mean this.
You know there's a lot oh wow Inour culture today.
There's also an over-reliance onidentification of cause and
effect and, and I think, for thehuman development and for the
strategies for individuals togrow and develop as just people
(06:32):
themselves and then put on topof it the idea of growing a
business, One of the things Ifind that I work well with is,
yes, growing a business is, istakes work, it takes strategic,
strategic planning, it takesforethought and you know,
growing a business is pushing anunknown thing into an unknown
(06:55):
future and there's a lot ofanxiety that comes up with that,
there's a lot of trepidationthat comes up with that, there's
personal belief systems andmindsets, that sort of start
kind of taking over from action.
And I think having a coach orhaving a counselor or having
some support for small businessowners, especially on the
(07:18):
initial kind of first five-yearframework, is it helps step past
some of the habits and theproclivities and the desire to
get distracted instead ofstaying on the path.
And I mean a business plan is aresearch project that gives a
(07:38):
business owner permission tofiddle around with ideas, fiddle
around with some math and dosome statistics and maybe even
some spreadsheets, and look atan unknown future with their
dream.
And then it also, if you lookat it really closely, it becomes
(07:59):
a pathway and it's reallypowerful, you know.
Laura (08:05):
Yeah, I don't know that it's.
You know, a business plan isn'tall statistics.
A lot of it is just, you know,people being able to frame what
they want to do but also, inthat process, understanding how
what they're going to do differsfrom their competitors, not so
(08:28):
they can compete per se, but sothat they can get a part of the
market share and build theirbusinesses effectively.
But I find there are reallyonly about four sections in the
entire plan that requireresearch.
But, that being said, what Ithink you really captured well
here is this idea about mindsetthat we are so often asking
(08:55):
ourselves to do X, y or Z, butnot having the right frame of
mind to do that.
Adam (09:02):
Yeah, and I like your clarification there.
You're right.
I mean, a lot of the businessplan is just, you know, simply
looking at what you know theidentity of the brand can look
like within the market and thenthe mindset to push toward.
(09:24):
That is often, you know, Ithink, mindset is supported with
facts.
Supported with facts.
I don't think I can wake upevery morning with the right
(09:44):
mindset and get a lot done if Idon't have some strategy, if I
don't have some action plan, ifI don't have some clarity about
what I'm trying to achieve.
And so what I kind of meant byyou know, you know, taking the
business plan and looking at itand doing some research and
gathering some information is is, I think that's where
motivation comes from for me,for a person like me.
(10:07):
I get motivated if I get clearabout information.
Laura (10:12):
Absolutely, absolutely Well, and it's less intimidating
.
I find that it's fascinatingwhen you first start going
through that path with people,and this is where you're talking
about the coach can really help.
Is this idea that you know it'sso daunting because there's so
much information you don't knowwhen you're starting this
(10:32):
journey, or at least most peopledon't know, and then they're
having to play catch up and thenit's like, well, which thing
should they focus on?
And they get distracted, theyget, you know, encouraged in
different ways, and and so whatI like about the coach that
you're talking about is two ofthe components that I well,
(10:56):
three that you've talked aboutin in the past, which are the
clarity, the accountability andthe communication.
Yeah.
I think those are are a powerfulcombination.
Why can you speak to how thatcan advance an entrepreneur's
journey?
Adam (11:20):
Well, yeah, because the harmony of those create an
awareness and because when wefeel comfortable and we feel
emotionally grounded, when wefeel like we're not truly you're
risking so much that we arepushing into the unknown,
there's a sense of awarenessthat comes about.
(11:42):
You know, accountability cansimply be following up on a
calendar invite andcommunicating that it's still on
and that there's going to be aconnection.
And accountability can also bethe sense of having you know, if
you said you're going to dosomething on such and such day,
that you do it and you followthrough.
(12:02):
It's like building buildingyour, your brand, building your,
your, your values, sustainingsome sort of your, the efficacy
of, of follow through andcommunicating accountability,
having that clarity, clarity.
Something's cool about clarity,laura, and that is when we get
(12:25):
clear about our mission and ourvision, when we have kind of a
crystalline sort of aha or wecan write it down on a vision
board or whatever, somethingunderneath starts happening,
this deeper sense of awareness.
And when we have awareness,because we have clear
(12:47):
communication, we haveaccountability measures in place
, we're having insights that areinspirational.
We're having insights that arecreative.
We're having insights that areuh, uh, inspirational.
We're having insights that arecreative.
We have insights that are, youknow, profoundly like, uh, I
guess, underscoring our purposefor our business.
(13:08):
All of that, the interplay ofit.
We get action and we have, wecreate the next steps, we create
the next marketing strategy orthe next reel or the next, uh,
you know, rack card to put inthe, you know the, the visitor
center or something it's like.
(13:28):
There's this interplay, youremember I I remember, in when I
was in elementary school andwhen I also worked as an
elementary school teacher, wewould have a parachute and we
would all line up around theperimeter of the parachute and
we all grab the parachute andpull it taut and everyone could
(13:49):
feel each other pulling eachother.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And then the teacher would putthe ball in the middle and you'd
move the ball around Right.
For me, having those fiveelements of transformation
aligned is having like anintentional decision on where to
move that ball across theparachute.
There's a sense of empowermentand the result is you can see
(14:18):
the result you seek, plan it,put it into action and, most
likely, get the result you seek.
Laura (14:29):
Yeah, because you're talking about there, too, a
sense of cooperation and thatharmony that you're talking
about Absolutely, and I lovethat.
There's always going to be pushand pull, and you know, in
everything we do there's sort ofa yin and yang, if you will.
And and then what does thatreveal about us?
(14:49):
What does it, what does it,what does it do for us or what
does it challenge us to do?
And so I really appreciate whatyou're saying there.
It's like, yeah, and I can onlyimagine so, are you suggesting
that in this transformationalapproach that you have, it
(15:10):
requires not only this clarity,communication, accountability,
but it's sort of like a pushingthrough of, and so this goes
back to that mindset that youwere talking about, like a
pushing through, not like, oh,we're sludging through, but sort
of like when that we need toseek out that next aha moment,
(15:34):
if you will instead of focusingon what we've already done to
get greater clarity, to getfurther transformation, we need
to be seeking something.
Can you help me here?
Adam (15:52):
No, yeah, I mean really.
I think what it comes down toand this is where I think the
coaching piece comes in is weneed to be seeking where our
obstacles lie and we need to beovercoming obstacles.
And so we've successfully goneaway from the conversation of
just business plan management,plan management.
(16:17):
What we're talking about iswe're not only talking about the
ideas being transformationaland then creating a business
that's successful.
We're talking about identifyingaspects of the human that is
pushing the plan, and whatthings, what mindsets, what
heart places are getting in theway from anything like, I don't
(16:40):
know, like um, self-sabotage orlike having a low self-esteem or
I have no idea what you'retalking about, adam I know I
mean I or having anxiety, orhaving procrastination or oh
goodness, no, no, no, I'mperfect.
Laura (16:58):
What are you talking about?
Adam (16:59):
Yeah right.
So I think for me, what I'mnoticing is when I can get into
a really good conversation aboutstrategy and then details are
in, fitting you know, filling inthe different sections of the
business plan, I start getting asense of what a client thinks
(17:22):
like, behaves like or makeschoices around and start
observing what is being avoided,and most often the things that
we avoid are actually the thingswe need to push into.
Laura (17:41):
Oh, so true, so true, and it's almost.
And in that, what you're alsospeaking to is this need, that
we not a need but a should, ifyou will.
That we not a need but a should, if you will I hate using that,
but that we need to look atourselves inwardly in order to
(18:02):
express ourselves outwardly theway we want.
Adam (18:08):
Exactly.
And that's absolutely, and oneof the things that I'm finding
that's super, super fun is doingthat in the context of building
a business.
That's going to have an impactfor the family or the person or
for the community.
And imagine the growth of abusiness while a person's
(18:30):
growing themselves by overcomingobstacles and managing mindset,
growing themselves byovercoming obstacles and
managing mindset it's there's awin-win, that's.
Laura (18:37):
it's unequivocal hmm, yeah, yeah.
Well, in in in your work withpeople, then, what is sort of a
process that a person might gothrough to get to a place you
know where they are making these, they're having clarity and
(18:57):
they're moving forward andthings like that.
Adam (19:00):
You know, interestingly enough, your conversation and
really deep listening goes along way and I find that when I
sit down with clients and I asksome pretty open-ended questions
that also then lead towardsvery pointed questions, we start
(19:24):
finding out where a person'shopes lie, lie and really, once
we can get to the bottom ofwhere a business owner or a
person clients like really whatthey want to achieve, like where
their goals are immediate,mid-range, long-term goals, that
(19:50):
conversation starts having somehonesty to it.
And once we can start havinghonest, you know, conversations
with some feedback looping orsome sort of deep listening, you
know we can start finding somevulnerability hmm, and finding
(20:12):
maybe places where there may besome you know an opportunity to
get out of one's own way.
Laura (20:19):
Well, and to that, I got to say one of the things that I
hear about and I'm concernedabout, and we don't have a whole
lot of time, but I just wantedto say this vulnerability issue
you're tapping into really canscare a lot of people like, oh,
I don't want to be vulnerable,right, but right, um, I think
what we need to say is we'rewe're vulnerable even to
(20:42):
ourselves.
I think that's the the big part, less to another person, right?
Adam (20:49):
right, and that's that, and that's good distinction
there, and that's really allthat we're trying to do is give
someone permission to truly showup as themselves.
Yeah, yeah.
And to do that in the contextof pushing the business forward,
you're going to have moresuccess in the short term which,
with some guidance and somesupport and some wins, you know
(21:12):
that person, you know thatindividual, that client can feel
a lot more confident in whatthey're doing in this
nebulousness of growing abusiness?
Laura (21:24):
Nebulousness, love the word Well.
So we're out of time and I'mwondering if people want to
reach out to you and learn moreabout how you can help them.
How can they contact you?
Adam (21:37):
well, go to netcreativeorg , go to my business website, uh,
and connect with me throughthat channel.
There's a way to uh email me.
You can also go to my socialmedia channels with Facebook,
business or even Instagram, andjust message me.
Connect with me, email me ifyou want at adam at
(22:01):
napcreativeorg, and we can get aconversation started.
I like to meet for tea.
I like to meet for walks.
I don't mind phone calls orvideos.
Laura (22:11):
And that's K-N-A-P-P.
Adam (22:14):
Yeah, k-n-a-p-p.
Yeah, k-n-a-p-p.
Yes, yeah.
Laura (22:16):
All right, well, thank you so much.
I really appreciate theconversation, adam.
It's great to have you on theshow.
Thank you.
Adam (22:23):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Appreciate your time.
Laura (22:25):
Absolutely, and I want to encourage you as an audience to
listen to this again or othergreat episodes of podcasts here
on bizradious and click on showsto find out more information.
Thanks so much for listeningand have a great rest of your
day.
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