June 5, 2025 • 15 mins
Ever feel like you've mastered the art of looking like you have it all together while secretly feeling disconnected, overwhelmed, or like something's fundamentally "off"? You've done the mindset work, read the books, practiced the affirmations- yet that persistent gap between knowing what to do and actually feeling better remains.
In this episode, we dive into why conventional personal development, therapy, and coaching keeps us stuck in our heads when the real transformation happens in our bodies. I'll share why somatic healing isn't just another wellness trend—it's a return to ancient wisdom that recognizes we're not just brains with bodies, but bodies with brains.
You'll discover:
- Why that "duck experience" of looking calm while frantically paddling underneath is so exhausting
- How we've been taught to control our bodies instead of being in relationship with them
- Why overthinking is often a sign of underfeeling
- The difference between "shelfspiration" and embodied transformation that actually changes how life feels
- What somatic healing is and why it is so powerful especially for women with a solid foundation who are over functioning
If you're a high-functioning person who's tired of going through the motions and ready to access the 80% of your intelligence that lives beyond conscious thought, this episode is your invitation to explore what's possible when we move beyond mindset into embodied wisdom.
Make sure to follow the podcast and subscribe- episode 2 in this series and the somatic healing workbook drop soon.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to today's episode of the Motherhood Mentor
Podcast.
Today is a solo episode.
It's been a minute since I'vedone a solo episode and today we
are going to talk about whatsomatic healing actually is and
why it may just be the thingthat you are craving in your
life.
So if you have been a part ofmy world, you know that somatics
has been huge for me in thelast few years, not just
(00:27):
professionally, but honestly,even more than professionally.
Personally, it hasfundamentally shifted how I feel
in my life.
It has shifted the way that Ieat, the way that I move.
It has shifted the way that Imother, the way that I relate to
my husband and especiallyconflict.
It has changed the way that Imeet my resistance, my
(00:49):
self-sabotage.
It has changed everything, andso today we're going to lay the
foundation, and I'm reallyespecially wanting to talk to
you.
If you are one of those womenwho has done all of the mindset
work, you have a really goodfoundation of therapy or
personal growth work, likeyou've been on this healing
(01:10):
journey for a while and you havea really good foundation of
wellbeing, but you still oftenfeel dysregulated, you feel
disconnected, you feeloverwhelmed, you feel like you
are everywhere and nowhere andit's like you're handling
everything, you're doing it,you're doing the damn thing and
you have a life that, on paper,looks really good.
(01:33):
You have the markers of successthat you wanted, not just
professionally but personally.
Like you look around and you go, like I'm taking pretty good
care of myself, I'm showing upto the things that matter, but
ultimately it still feels likeunderneath something's wrong,
something's off.
This is where somatic workchanged my life, because it
(01:54):
wasn't just about what lifelooks like.
It was about how it felt, andespecially how it felt in my
nervous system and thatunconscious emotional level
system and that unconsciousemotional level because,
honestly, the more mindset workI've done, the more coaching and
therapy and books that I readand podcasts that I listened to,
the better I get atbullshitting myself, the better
(02:15):
I get at high functioning.
And what I mean by highfunctioning is you have learned
to make things look so good evenwhen they aren't good.
You have learned how to be inthese nervous system responses
that are functioning.
So when you're in burnout,you're still showing up to
(02:36):
everything, making it look good,but it has lost its joy, it's
lost its magic.
You've lost your creativity.
It just doesn't feel good.
I call this the duck experience,the goose experience.
Goose is funnier, but picturelike a duck.
It looks so good on the surface, but underneath there is this
activation, this tension.
It's like you have it all,you're carrying it all, you're
(02:58):
doing it all, but it's stillreally heavy.
So this is where somatichealing is so powerful, because
you are not broken, but yourbody may not feel safe enough to
land in your body.
And so many of us use ourlogical thinking, our mindset,
(03:18):
we use strategies and systemsand habit hacks and affirmations
to use our bodies not to be inrelationship to our bodies.
So let's define what somatichealing actually is.
So somatic is not new.
First of all, it's nothing newand in fact, I like to say that
(03:43):
somatics existed even before thefoundational teachers and
discoverers who gave thesethings language and names and
practices, because, honestly, somuch of somatics is getting
back to being human.
It's how people in tribes andvillages, tons and tons of years
(04:03):
ago, used to treat each otherand their bodies.
They were connected to a deepersense of self.
They were connected not just toquote, unquote mental health
that's.
You know, it's all in your head, it's all in your hormones
versus.
No, this is, this is in youremotional, energetic body, this
is in your soul, this is in yourenvironment, this is in your
(04:24):
relationships.
And Soma is your body yourself,experientially so, your animal,
unconscious body.
That is happening evenunderneath the surface.
That often we haven't even hadlanguage for yet.
(04:45):
So this goes even deepersometimes than emotional, to
understanding your biology,understanding fight, flight,
freeze, fawn, not just as quote,unquote trauma responses, like
psychology has made them to be,but these are biological
responses to stress, toactivation, to perceived threat.
(05:05):
It's not always just trauma.
What does happen with trauma isthat we get stuck in these
responses because our currentculture has no ways of us being
human.
Honestly, we don't even knowhow to be human anymore.
A perfect example of this is Iwas on oh my gosh.
I was on TikTok and there was anews article that was talking
(05:28):
about a new trend of peoplelaying on the floor.
Laying on the floor and I waslike, oh my gosh, we think that
walking is a new trend and we'reshocked to find out that we
feel better when we're insunshine and moving our bodies.
What the actual heck.
We are not just brains withbodies, we are bodies with a
(05:49):
brain.
Your body has so much wisdom.
And when you are disconnectedfrom your body, from your
emotional, energetic, spiritual,experiential body, you are
disconnected from 80% ofyourself.
You are essentially cut offfrom 80 to 90% of your wisdom,
(06:09):
your intelligence, your power,your presence.
Think about this you can be inthe room Christmas morning, but
if you're not there, if you'rejust making the magic happen but
you can't feel it in your body,that's what somatics brings.
If you are showing up and doingthe thing, but it doesn't quite
(06:31):
feel right, it's somethinghappening in your body.
And listen, I love mindset, I'ma mindset girly, and here's
what I will say.
I love mindset, I'm a mindsetgirly, and here's what I will
say.
People have been so focused onthoughts and stories and beliefs
and, oh, we need to just changethis and create an affirmation.
But this isn't just happeningin your head, it's happening in
(06:51):
your body, which is why youstill feel so stuck when you
know what to do but you can'tseem to do it.
Or you do it but it feelsterrible.
That's not in your head, it's aliteral, natural thing
happening in your body and Iwant to teach you how to work
with that.
The problem is for so many ofus in current culture.
(07:14):
Isn't that we feel too much?
It isn't that we're soemotionally sensitive or
emotionally numb.
Isn't that we feel too much?
It isn't that we're soemotionally sensitive or
emotionally numb.
It's that we were never taughthow to feel safely.
We were never taught how torelate to our emotions, to our
spirit, to our intelligence.
That's not just in our heads,but in our bodies and our
intuition.
(07:34):
I think of intuition a lot,because so many people,
especially in motherhood, but inso many other areas, they're
like just listen to yourintuition.
And it's like women were nevertaught how to listen to their
intuition because guess what?
That's usually associated withyour gut, with that area right
between your stomach and yourpelvis, and most women can't
(07:55):
feel that part of their bodythey're numb to it, we're
dissociated from it can't feelthat part of their body.
They're numb to it, we'redissociated from it.
We are burnt out inperfectionism and we have this
emotional reactivity or thisnumbness.
It's like we're either feelingtoo much or not enough and we're
overthinking, which is oftenwhen we're under thinking.
Sorry, when we're overthinking,it's often because we are under
(08:16):
feeling.
We don't know how to processthis information with
discernment.
We have more information, moredata, more strategies coming at
us than ever before, and we havenever known less and I'm
talking about that knowing inyour bones, knowing it in your
(08:37):
muscles, having it actuallyimpact your life.
I am never my goal with mybusiness and my content and what
I do with women.
I don't want to create moreshelfspiration.
I don't want to give youinformation that you know in
your head that never changes howyour Monday afternoon goes.
I don't want to teach you astrategy that you can't
(09:01):
implement because you're toodysregulated to not yell at your
kid, because you never actuallygot to the root of why you were
yelling at your kid.
So many parenting experts theyfocus on what to do, but they
never talk about the persondoing it and how that looks.
To integrate, to take action.
I see this a ton withentrepreneurs and business
(09:26):
owners as well, where you'reconstantly seeking out a new
strategy, a new plan, somethingto do, when what you really need
is deep integration orintuition or spirit or
creativity or life coming comingfrom you, your emotions, your
(09:50):
energy, your body.
They hold your aliveness.
So, again, the problem isn'tthat we feel too much or not
enough, but that we've neverbeen able to.
We've never been taught how tomove emotion, how to metabolize
it, how to integrate all of thisinformation, all of our messy
(10:14):
humanity, the good parts and thebad parts, and I'm going to do
a couple series of this podcastwhere I introduce you to some of
the foundations of somatics Ilove.
My favorite thing in my businessis the deep somatic work that I
get to do with my clients.
(10:35):
I have watched women come backto life.
I have watched women do themost incredible and profound
things and you know what?
The other day it was so cool Iwas on Instagram and this gal
messaged me and she said I knowyour work because I have two
friends who coach with you.
And she said I can see and feela difference in them.
(10:56):
And that was probably one ofthe coolest like client
testimonies, if you will, thatI've ever received is that
someone who knows them said thatthey see and feel a change in
them and they know they workwith me and they know that it's
had such a big impact on theirlives, not just because they've
talked about it, but becausethey like see it and feel it in
(11:16):
that person.
That's my goal and I love doingthat and honestly, I at least
for right now.
I want that to be the heart ofthe work that I do Long-term
one-on-one work with women wherewe aren't just getting you
quick wins and results becausethose are great, but ultimately
I work with women who, yeah,sometimes they need a quick win
(11:39):
in result, but what they reallywant is a foundational skill.
They want to build leadershipskill.
They want to be able to takethis one thing and then have it
pushed in on and pulled out on.
They want this deeply rootedfoundation of health and
wellbeing that can withstanddifferent seasons.
(12:00):
And the reality is that, like,sometimes that takes a longer
relationship, that takes alonger time to build in these
layers of nuance and to build askill.
This isn't just me telling youwhat to do.
It's you taking that and makingit your own and figuring out
what that feels like andcreating this new relationship
(12:20):
of self-trust and truly buildingup these leadership skills of
discernment and communicationand conflict and this mastery of
your nervous system andemotions.
That, honestly, it impactsevery area of your life, every
area business, motherhood, yourrelationship with your family,
(12:43):
your relationship to work andrest and play, and sex, the
relationship to your body, therelationship to food.
It impacts everything.
So I love that deep one-on-onework and also I've been craving
a way to teach and bring thissomatic healing to more people,
because you know one-on-one work.
And also I've been craving away to teach and bring this
somatic healing to more peoplebecause you know one-on-one.
(13:04):
It's a bigger time investment.
It's a bigger financialinvestment.
Not everyone knows the benefitsor who it's for.
And also I just wanted to beable to create a course for
people who were interested insomatics, who wanted to be able
to understand and experiencesomatics in a very accessible,
easy way.
(13:24):
So I decided to kind of do thisfree mini podcast course, if
you will, this mini podcastseries.
I also have a really coolworkbook for you, because
sometimes we just need thevisual, we need the tactile,
tangible tools.
Sometimes we just need thevisual, we need the tactile,
tangible tools and I'm going toteach you some practices.
I'm also making a super funquiz, because your girl loves a
(13:47):
quiz and I'm so excited to bringit to you.
It's not quite ready yet, buthopefully in the next episode or
two I'll have it ready andit'll be in the show notes.
So if you loved this and youwant to know more, if you want
to explore this with me.
Make sure you are following thepodcast.
That way, when the new episodeshit, you will get them up in
(14:08):
your podcast app.
The workbook again will be.
It won't come out until thenext episode because I'm still
finishing and tweaking a couplelittle things on it, but that
will be in the show notes forthe next episode.
And also, if you loved thisepisode, if you are loving this
podcast, will you just take aquick two minutes and leave a
(14:30):
review?
What do you love about thispodcast?
How is it different from maybeother podcasts that you listened
to or share this podcast with afriend and you and the friend
go through this together andhave like a podcast book club
moment where you listen and thenyou talk about it and you share
questions.
And also, if you're listeningto this, I love feedback.
(14:53):
I love responding.
I am the best teacher and coachwhen it is responsive and
there's relationship.
And it's not just me in myoffice with a podcast microphone
.
So I would love to hear fromyou.
Send me a DM with yourquestions, with your aha moments
, if you have a certain example.
I just I would love to hearfrom you.
(15:14):
I would love to connect withyou.
So thank you so much for beinghere today and I cannot wait to
see you in the next episode, andI'll see you next time.
Welcome to today's episode of the Motherhood Mentor
Podcast.
Today is a solo episode.
It's been a minute since I'vedone a solo episode and today we
are going to talk about whatsomatic healing actually is and
why it may just be the thingthat you are craving in your
life.
So if you have been a part ofmy world, you know that somatics
has been huge for me in thelast few years, not just
(00:27):
professionally, but honestly,even more than professionally.
Personally, it hasfundamentally shifted how I feel
in my life.
It has shifted the way that Ieat, the way that I move.
It has shifted the way that Imother, the way that I relate to
my husband and especiallyconflict.
It has changed the way that Imeet my resistance, my
(00:49):
self-sabotage.
It has changed everything, andso today we're going to lay the
foundation, and I'm reallyespecially wanting to talk to
you.
If you are one of those womenwho has done all of the mindset
work, you have a really goodfoundation of therapy or
personal growth work, likeyou've been on this healing
(01:10):
journey for a while and you havea really good foundation of
wellbeing, but you still oftenfeel dysregulated, you feel
disconnected, you feeloverwhelmed, you feel like you
are everywhere and nowhere andit's like you're handling
everything, you're doing it,you're doing the damn thing and
you have a life that, on paper,looks really good.
(01:33):
You have the markers of successthat you wanted, not just
professionally but personally.
Like you look around and you go, like I'm taking pretty good
care of myself, I'm showing upto the things that matter, but
ultimately it still feels likeunderneath something's wrong,
something's off.
This is where somatic workchanged my life, because it
(01:54):
wasn't just about what lifelooks like.
It was about how it felt, andespecially how it felt in my
nervous system and thatunconscious emotional level
system and that unconsciousemotional level because,
honestly, the more mindset workI've done, the more coaching and
therapy and books that I readand podcasts that I listened to,
the better I get atbullshitting myself, the better
(02:15):
I get at high functioning.
And what I mean by highfunctioning is you have learned
to make things look so good evenwhen they aren't good.
You have learned how to be inthese nervous system responses
that are functioning.
So when you're in burnout,you're still showing up to
(02:36):
everything, making it look good,but it has lost its joy, it's
lost its magic.
You've lost your creativity.
It just doesn't feel good.
I call this the duck experience,the goose experience.
Goose is funnier, but picturelike a duck.
It looks so good on the surface, but underneath there is this
activation, this tension.
It's like you have it all,you're carrying it all, you're
(02:58):
doing it all, but it's stillreally heavy.
So this is where somatichealing is so powerful, because
you are not broken, but yourbody may not feel safe enough to
land in your body.
And so many of us use ourlogical thinking, our mindset,
(03:18):
we use strategies and systemsand habit hacks and affirmations
to use our bodies not to be inrelationship to our bodies.
So let's define what somatichealing actually is.
So somatic is not new.
First of all, it's nothing newand in fact, I like to say that
(03:43):
somatics existed even before thefoundational teachers and
discoverers who gave thesethings language and names and
practices, because, honestly, somuch of somatics is getting
back to being human.
It's how people in tribes andvillages, tons and tons of years
(04:03):
ago, used to treat each otherand their bodies.
They were connected to a deepersense of self.
They were connected not just toquote, unquote mental health
that's.
You know, it's all in your head, it's all in your hormones
versus.
No, this is, this is in youremotional, energetic body, this
is in your soul, this is in yourenvironment, this is in your
(04:24):
relationships.
And Soma is your body yourself,experientially so, your animal,
unconscious body.
That is happening evenunderneath the surface.
That often we haven't even hadlanguage for yet.
(04:45):
So this goes even deepersometimes than emotional, to
understanding your biology,understanding fight, flight,
freeze, fawn, not just as quote,unquote trauma responses, like
psychology has made them to be,but these are biological
responses to stress, toactivation, to perceived threat.
(05:05):
It's not always just trauma.
What does happen with trauma isthat we get stuck in these
responses because our currentculture has no ways of us being
human.
Honestly, we don't even knowhow to be human anymore.
A perfect example of this is Iwas on oh my gosh.
I was on TikTok and there was anews article that was talking
(05:28):
about a new trend of peoplelaying on the floor.
Laying on the floor and I waslike, oh my gosh, we think that
walking is a new trend and we'reshocked to find out that we
feel better when we're insunshine and moving our bodies.
What the actual heck.
We are not just brains withbodies, we are bodies with a
(05:49):
brain.
Your body has so much wisdom.
And when you are disconnectedfrom your body, from your
emotional, energetic, spiritual,experiential body, you are
disconnected from 80% ofyourself.
You are essentially cut offfrom 80 to 90% of your wisdom,
(06:09):
your intelligence, your power,your presence.
Think about this you can be inthe room Christmas morning, but
if you're not there, if you'rejust making the magic happen but
you can't feel it in your body,that's what somatics brings.
If you are showing up and doingthe thing, but it doesn't quite
(06:31):
feel right, it's somethinghappening in your body.
And listen, I love mindset, I'ma mindset girly, and here's
what I will say.
I love mindset, I'm a mindsetgirly, and here's what I will
say.
People have been so focused onthoughts and stories and beliefs
and, oh, we need to just changethis and create an affirmation.
But this isn't just happeningin your head, it's happening in
(06:51):
your body, which is why youstill feel so stuck when you
know what to do but you can'tseem to do it.
Or you do it but it feelsterrible.
That's not in your head, it's aliteral, natural thing
happening in your body and Iwant to teach you how to work
with that.
The problem is for so many ofus in current culture.
(07:14):
Isn't that we feel too much?
It isn't that we're soemotionally sensitive or
emotionally numb.
Isn't that we feel too much?
It isn't that we're soemotionally sensitive or
emotionally numb.
It's that we were never taughthow to feel safely.
We were never taught how torelate to our emotions, to our
spirit, to our intelligence.
That's not just in our heads,but in our bodies and our
intuition.
(07:34):
I think of intuition a lot,because so many people,
especially in motherhood, but inso many other areas, they're
like just listen to yourintuition.
And it's like women were nevertaught how to listen to their
intuition because guess what?
That's usually associated withyour gut, with that area right
between your stomach and yourpelvis, and most women can't
(07:55):
feel that part of their bodythey're numb to it, we're
dissociated from it can't feelthat part of their body.
They're numb to it, we'redissociated from it.
We are burnt out inperfectionism and we have this
emotional reactivity or thisnumbness.
It's like we're either feelingtoo much or not enough and we're
overthinking, which is oftenwhen we're under thinking.
Sorry, when we're overthinking,it's often because we are under
(08:16):
feeling.
We don't know how to processthis information with
discernment.
We have more information, moredata, more strategies coming at
us than ever before, and we havenever known less and I'm
talking about that knowing inyour bones, knowing it in your
(08:37):
muscles, having it actuallyimpact your life.
I am never my goal with mybusiness and my content and what
I do with women.
I don't want to create moreshelfspiration.
I don't want to give youinformation that you know in
your head that never changes howyour Monday afternoon goes.
I don't want to teach you astrategy that you can't
(09:01):
implement because you're toodysregulated to not yell at your
kid, because you never actuallygot to the root of why you were
yelling at your kid.
So many parenting experts theyfocus on what to do, but they
never talk about the persondoing it and how that looks.
To integrate, to take action.
I see this a ton withentrepreneurs and business
(09:26):
owners as well, where you'reconstantly seeking out a new
strategy, a new plan, somethingto do, when what you really need
is deep integration orintuition or spirit or
creativity or life coming comingfrom you, your emotions, your
(09:50):
energy, your body.
They hold your aliveness.
So, again, the problem isn'tthat we feel too much or not
enough, but that we've neverbeen able to.
We've never been taught how tomove emotion, how to metabolize
it, how to integrate all of thisinformation, all of our messy
(10:14):
humanity, the good parts and thebad parts, and I'm going to do
a couple series of this podcastwhere I introduce you to some of
the foundations of somatics Ilove.
My favorite thing in my businessis the deep somatic work that I
get to do with my clients.
(10:35):
I have watched women come backto life.
I have watched women do themost incredible and profound
things and you know what?
The other day it was so cool Iwas on Instagram and this gal
messaged me and she said I knowyour work because I have two
friends who coach with you.
And she said I can see and feela difference in them.
(10:56):
And that was probably one ofthe coolest like client
testimonies, if you will, thatI've ever received is that
someone who knows them said thatthey see and feel a change in
them and they know they workwith me and they know that it's
had such a big impact on theirlives, not just because they've
talked about it, but becausethey like see it and feel it in
(11:16):
that person.
That's my goal and I love doingthat and honestly, I at least
for right now.
I want that to be the heart ofthe work that I do Long-term
one-on-one work with women wherewe aren't just getting you
quick wins and results becausethose are great, but ultimately
I work with women who, yeah,sometimes they need a quick win
(11:39):
in result, but what they reallywant is a foundational skill.
They want to build leadershipskill.
They want to be able to takethis one thing and then have it
pushed in on and pulled out on.
They want this deeply rootedfoundation of health and
wellbeing that can withstanddifferent seasons.
(12:00):
And the reality is that, like,sometimes that takes a longer
relationship, that takes alonger time to build in these
layers of nuance and to build askill.
This isn't just me telling youwhat to do.
It's you taking that and makingit your own and figuring out
what that feels like andcreating this new relationship
(12:20):
of self-trust and truly buildingup these leadership skills of
discernment and communicationand conflict and this mastery of
your nervous system andemotions.
That, honestly, it impactsevery area of your life, every
area business, motherhood, yourrelationship with your family,
(12:43):
your relationship to work andrest and play, and sex, the
relationship to your body, therelationship to food.
It impacts everything.
So I love that deep one-on-onework and also I've been craving
a way to teach and bring thissomatic healing to more people,
because you know one-on-one work.
And also I've been craving away to teach and bring this
somatic healing to more peoplebecause you know one-on-one.
(13:04):
It's a bigger time investment.
It's a bigger financialinvestment.
Not everyone knows the benefitsor who it's for.
And also I just wanted to beable to create a course for
people who were interested insomatics, who wanted to be able
to understand and experiencesomatics in a very accessible,
easy way.
(13:24):
So I decided to kind of do thisfree mini podcast course, if
you will, this mini podcastseries.
I also have a really coolworkbook for you, because
sometimes we just need thevisual, we need the tactile,
tangible tools.
Sometimes we just need thevisual, we need the tactile,
tangible tools and I'm going toteach you some practices.
I'm also making a super funquiz, because your girl loves a
(13:47):
quiz and I'm so excited to bringit to you.
It's not quite ready yet, buthopefully in the next episode or
two I'll have it ready andit'll be in the show notes.
So if you loved this and youwant to know more, if you want
to explore this with me.
Make sure you are following thepodcast.
That way, when the new episodeshit, you will get them up in
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your podcast app.
The workbook again will be.
It won't come out until thenext episode because I'm still
finishing and tweaking a couplelittle things on it, but that
will be in the show notes forthe next episode.
And also, if you loved thisepisode, if you are loving this
podcast, will you just take aquick two minutes and leave a
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review?
What do you love about thispodcast?
How is it different from maybeother podcasts that you listened
to or share this podcast with afriend and you and the friend
go through this together andhave like a podcast book club
moment where you listen and thenyou talk about it and you share
questions.
And also, if you're listeningto this, I love feedback.
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I love responding.
I am the best teacher and coachwhen it is responsive and
there's relationship.
And it's not just me in myoffice with a podcast microphone
.
So I would love to hear fromyou.
Send me a DM with yourquestions, with your aha moments
, if you have a certain example.
I just I would love to hearfrom you.
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I would love to connect withyou.
So thank you so much for beinghere today and I cannot wait to
see you in the next episode, andI'll see you next time.
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