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September 23, 2025 73 mins

This week, Sara & Vee talk with Jarret Zafran, attorney, father through surrogacy and egg donation, and Founder & Executive Director of Brownstone Surrogacy. After navigating his own journey to parenthood, Jarret left WilmerHale and “Big Law” to launch what he wished he'd had: a surrogacy agency rooted in compassion and personal connection for everyone involved.


It’s a conversation about parenting roles, rewriting expectations, and why intentionality matters in every part of building a family.


In this interview:

🏛️ From politics to law to pandemic parenting & launching a surrogacy agency

🍝 “Food Daddy,” “Laundry Daddy,” & parenting when there’s no default

👨‍👨‍👧 Fatherhood in a Mother-dominated ecosystem

💼 How men may simply expect to “have it all”

🗓️ Why there’s no such thing as an “oopsie” surrogacy baby


Also in this episode:

Check out Brownstone Surrogacy (www.brownstonesurrogacy.com) and take a short quiz to see if you might qualify to be a surrogate.


Use code THEMOTHERS20 to enjoy 20% off Little Saints, a mushroom-infused cocktail that elevates the soul.


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