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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome back to the
MT Alternative Podcast, the only
show where breaking news,vintage tunes and rodent-sized
rage somehow make perfect sensetogether.
I'm your eternally exhaustedpresenter, daniel, and today's
episode is well, it's goteverything.
First up, mike and Tom take adeep dive into a truly bizarre
(00:34):
headline Two Democratic judgesarrested for harboring illegal
immigrants.
That's right, justice may beblind, but apparently it's also
not great at hiding people.
Then shifting gears fromscandal to soundtrack, the guys
dust off the vinyl and countdown their favorite songs from
(00:54):
1972.
Spoiler alert if you likeflared jeans and guitar solos
longer than your lunch break,you're in for a treat.
And yes, brace yourselves.
Pip and Squeak are back withtheir usual charm complaints and
possibly a lawsuit waiting tohappen.
So grab a drink, lower yourexpectations and let's get into
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it.
This is the MT Alternativealternative.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Hey, welcome back to
the mt alternative podcast.
Tom, what the fuck is going on,bud?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
not much mike what's
going on with you?
Not much.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Let's get this party
started oh yes there we go I
understand, and the party hasbegun the party has begun the
party has begun.
Yes, yeah, speaking of partyShoot.
Had a great week in lastweekend it was an anniversary
weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yes, yes, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
And we went to
Shenandoah Virginia.
Excellent, had a great timeYou've been there a couple times
now, right.
Yeah, we like it.
It's laid back and it's easyfor her to you know.
Get around up there.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
No, you know there's
not a lot to do, so you don't
have to worry about her havingto do a lot.
So you know we ride.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So was it just more
or less an R&R type thing.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, that's what it
was was really an unneeded r&r
thing and you know a lot ofthings going on and life awesome
life in general yeah, it wasawesome man, but back back in
the new york groove yeah, it'sgood to be back yeah, it's
always good to be back soonwe'll come back to our once a
week, once we get our lives inorder.
(02:43):
Yeah, yeah, summers.
Kind of missing that every week, me too, me too man.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
But hey, it is what
it is.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
We had another shit
show at work yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Everybody panicked.
We came through though.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yep Luckily.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, josh
wasn't even.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I was a little bitch
again.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Josh wasn't even
involved and he was in a panic.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Not sure what that
was all about, but he probably
felt, oh shit, she's going tofall on my foot next time.
What the hell.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Boy Devon took the
end of it, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Devon did, but what a
trooper man.
I wish I had his chill Me tooof it, didn't he?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Devon did, but what a
trooper man, I wish I had his
chill Me too, if I could justchill like him over things it
would be.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Just lets it roll
right off.
Man, God bless him.
Wish I could be that way.
No Shout out.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Shout out.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It's just get your
shit together, people.
Yeah, you run.
You're a big company and yourun it like a mom and pop.
Mom and pops can do better.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Just talk,
communicate, yeah, talk to one
another.
That'd be a first step.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I'm sorry, I'm not
going to.
No, I'm not sorry.
Customer service, where we are,is kind of a little messed up.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
We're not doing
anything for the beginning of
the week, but hell come Thursday, Friday, especially Friday.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Oh, where was this
shit?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
on Monday it's a rush
.
You don't wait till the lastday.
I've worked at many a factories.
We never ran it like that.
Things were smooth.
Worst one I've been at, I'msorry to say, but yeah, again,
I'm not sorry to say it's runlike a mom and pop.
See, I'm insulting mom and popsman, I shouldn't do that.
Nah, nah, anyways, we'll moveon.
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How about the?
You hear about those two judges?
Yeah, democratic judges, Ishould say progressive, which is
stupid.
Are they really progressive?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Progresso.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
They're trying to be.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
They're probably
going to end up.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, so you had one
that had gang members living at
their home Right, he was aretired judge.
They had another judge.
You got to hear this story.
It's messed up.
Trial for this guy Right.
He's been deported once, cameback Uh-huh Many assault charges
on him.
Right, she finds out that ICEis in the building in the
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courthouse, goes out and freaksout on him, tells him they got
to go see the chief judge.
Meantime she brings back in thecourtroom, takes his defender
and him in her chambers, letshim go out the back door.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Go out this door.
Guess what.
They caught the stupid ass andshe got arrested right in the
court by the FBI.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
See, and that's the
way the system ought to work.
Look, I don't care where you'resitting, it doesn't matter what
your name is.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Nope, you've got to
go by the law.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Exactly If.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
ICE is there.
They're there for a reason.
This person's been deportedbefore.
Let me read this quick.
Okay, judge Hannah Dugan.
This is the one in Wisconsinthat let the guy go out the back
door.
On April 25th 2025, milwaukeeCounty Circuit Judge Hannah
Dugan was arrested by the FBI oncharges of obstruction and
concealing an individual toprevent arrest.
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According to the federalprosecutors, dugan allegedly
helped Eduardo Flores Ruiz, anundocumented immigrant, avoid
arrest by immigration andcustoms enforcement agents at
the courthouse.
She's accused of directingFlores Ruiz and his attorney to
exit through a side door,thereby evading ICE agents who
were waiting to detain him.
Flores-ruarez was laterapprehended outside the building
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.
Dugan has been charged with twofelony counts obstructing or
impeding a federal proceedingand concealing an individual to
prevent discovery or arrest.
Her attorney has stated thatthe arrest was unjustified and
not in the interest of publicsafety Bullshit.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah well, yeah see,
she's an idiot.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, a little bit,
you think.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
This is perfect, but
oh boy.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Then you got this
other guy, former Judge Joel
Cano, whatever his name is Right.
I can't even pronounce this.
Former Donna.
A Neck County Magistrate, judgeJoel Cano and his wife Nancy
were arrested for allegedlyharboring Christian Ortega Lopez
, a suspected member of theVenezuelan gang Tren de Argua
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and an undocumented immigrant.
Ortega Lopez has been residingin the couple's guest house
after being hired by Nancy Canoas a handyman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, handyman.
All right, you want toelaborate on that, don't you,
tom?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, go ahead, buddy
Handy with the ladies.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, he's handy, all
right.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, that's what's
up.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
All right Federal
agents arrested the Canos at
their home and they are accusedof attempting to hide evidence
related to the ortega lopez'spresence on their property.
Don't let them find the videoof him being a handyman.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
It's very handy yeah,
man sounds like it let's see.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
attorney general uh
pan bondi has issued a stern
warning the judges who challengeor obstruct the trump
administration's immigrationenforcement policies, declaring
that they will be heldaccountable under the law.
These arrests have beenintensified tensions between the
judiciary and the federalgovernment, highlighting the
broader conflict overimmigration enforcement and the
role of local officials.
Yeah, Well.
(08:21):
You know it is what it is Legalimmigrants.
I just find this.
Well, you know it is what it isLegal immigrants.
I just find this Interesting.
I find it comical too, sorry.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, yeah, because
everybody's always.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Why here's my why are
these people so into the thugs
from other countries?
Gang members, what is thisMoney?
You know what it is Money.
They want to have their ownlittle army.
I guarantee it.
I'm on a little conspiracything here, but get all these
gang members in.
They can vote and they can alsobe somewhat protection.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
So are you paying
them?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That's what it seems
like to me, tom.
A little bit, a little bit, alittle bit, it's fucked up A
little bit.
And what about that lady fromthe Epstein?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Oh yeah, the one who
committed.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
What the hell was her
name?
Something Virginia, Graffia orJafria.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Jafria, not anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Posted a thing a
while ago saying you know,
against Epstein and PrinceAndrew was another one I am not
suicidal.
If anybody sees this, let themknow.
Well, isn't that funny.
Just recently this poor girl iscommitted suicide.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, I doubt it Just
couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, we know what's
fucked up there.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
What, what.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, just like
Epstein committed suicide.
Yeah, we believe that, we allbelieve.
Oh, the cameras weren't working.
There's a lot of deep stateshit going on, tom.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, I wonder if the
cameras went out about the same
time that the damn emails gotlost.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Oh yeah, good old
Hillary.
No, she bleached them Bleachbit.
But anyways, I digress, man.
What else do we want to discuss?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I'm excited about the
music stuff.
I know I'm excited about themusic stuff too.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
We'll get to that.
We'll get to that.
So we had some rain which wewell needed.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, we had some
rain, which we well needed.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, we absolutely
needed rain.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I have this thing
going on my throat again this
weekend.
Pollen, a little pollen.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well, first I forget,
I'd like to discuss my crispy
blunt strawberry flavor again.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You would like to
discuss this again?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, that's what we
did this time, or I did this
time.
You did your usual.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
The one I found.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
See, I prefer the
mushroom gummies over the THC
gummies.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Well see, and I like
the THC gummies.
Can we get the way up here?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, we're here.
It's all good, tom, it's allgood.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Okay, well, Anyway, I
was going to say something and
it just got all.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Okay, so we see the
THC gummies are working for you
Well.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Most folks will
understand.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Most folks will
understand, most folks would
understand.
So, speaking of Devon earlier,yeah.
He went to my stomp, MorgantonHemp.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Shout out to
Morganton Hemp.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Again, again.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
There we go.
So Devon walked in.
I guess he was quite a happycustomer.
We'll find out.
He did call, but of course Idid miss that call last night by
the time I noticed it was late.
Yeah, but find out what he saysabout it.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
According to the
people there, he was bunching on
his crispy blunt on the way outthe door.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
He didn't even wait
to open it up.
I understand, I know.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Great place, great
people.
If you're in the MorgantonNorth Carolina area, check them
out Morganton Hemp.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Breckmont, ab.
How's that beer going downthere, buddy?
Like a fat kid on a seesaw yeahit's going down a little slower
today, I noticed.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Fat kid on a seesaw.
Yeah, I get it man.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
That's why I said a
little slower today.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Well, it takes a
little more weight on you.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Maybe you shouldn't
be taking them at 4.30 in the
morning.
I didn't.
Oh, not today.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
No, okay, today was 9
o'clock right there in Lenore
when I talked to you, I did thatone.
I'm just checking, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But by the time I got
here, yeah, you don't have to
say anymore, I see it on yourface, literally.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I can see it on your
face.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, there we go,
see it in your eyes.
So have we heard any more from?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
the little dudes.
You know it's been a whilebecause I was on vacation.
Yeah, I haven't really heard.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Pip's always been
quiet, though Never hear much
from Pip Squeak.
I don't know what Squeak getshimself into.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
You can probably read
the newspaper and find out
anything you need to know aboutSqueak.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, hopefully not.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Squeak's probably
been arrested twice.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He's on our show Kind
of gives us a bad name.
Now, when he picks his songs, Ithink he's going to.
Is he going to stick to theyear, or is he just going to
ramble off songs that he likes,Because we can do that too, you
know?
Is he going to stick to theplan?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
He all knows what
he's going to do.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Well, I guess we're
going to find out, one way or
the other, what he's going to dowhen he gets in here.
I did leave notes for him totry to go by little bullet
points.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Let's hope Pip can
hold him down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We know how that goes
.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Anyway, anything else
on your mind bud.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Well, I was just
thinking.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
A long pause there.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, that's me
thinking.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh okay.
I wasn't really sure Smoke'sgetting in front of my face here
.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Smoke gets here.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, it got in my
eyes, all right.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
But no, I just I was
trying to think of what I was
wanting to talk about earlierand it left my mind.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Where'd it go.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Well, if it was in my
mind, there's a lot of places
it could have went.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You have no idea
where it went.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
That's pretty much
what we could say, but I like
the other saying better.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Okay, we don't know
where it went.
All right, we will discuss this.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I'm just not sure.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
This messed up song
we heard earlier.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Is that true yeah
we'll discuss it during the
music segment.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Some great music, a
little messed up.
72 had some great freakingmusic.
You kind of forget until youlook back.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Had lyrics.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Of course, again, I
was only 9 years old, so it's
not like I have a fond memory,but it's the songs that I grew
up listening to after.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I would have been
scarred if I would have heard
this song at nine years old.
Yeah, I would have been scarred.
You folks are just going tohave to wait and listen.
This is crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
But anyways, I hear
some rumbling.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Scarred, oh God.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, I don't know if
Troy brought him in or not.
We're going to have to find out.
But, anyways, let's get theseguys in, because I'm excited to
do our segment after anyway, soI'm looking forward to that.
Hopefully, squeak sticks to theprogram.
We'll see what happens, folks.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Good luck.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Anyways, we'll be
back in a bit, folks, Back in a
bit.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Hey, squeak, here we
are again.
Buddy, yep, always, here we areagain.
How was your trip today?
How did you get here?
Well, I, over a mountain andover a river.
Okay, did you walk?
Did you drive?
No, troy didn't pick you upagain, did he?
Well, of course he did.
(16:14):
Why would he do that?
Because me and Troy are friends.
Well, what the hell, what doyou mean?
What the hell?
He jumped out of the dam.
This time he did not.
You said that what the hell,what do you mean?
What the hell?
He jumped out of the dam at thetime.
He did not.
You said that no, no, evidently, listen, hear me out.
(16:35):
Okay, the helicopter wentthrough some turbulence, oh, and
it kicked him out and he fell.
Are you sure you told me hejumped because you talk too much
?
No, no, no See.
And then he and you were happy,he was healing, well, he was
(16:57):
healing, and he healed verynicely.
And then he, what, I don't knowwhat's going on.
How do you heal?
Not nicely?
No, no, no.
My point is you hated Troy.
Troy didn't like you.
He thought you were a freakingnuisance.
(17:18):
Wait, wait, wait.
I think there's somemisunderstanding.
No, no, no, misunderstanding.
Everybody's heard you On thispodcast?
Well, of course they hear me.
I'm famous Pip Squeak, squeak,ta-da.
Pip Squeak, squeak, ta-da.
(17:39):
See it squeaks at the end?
Yeah, well, of course it isNobody.
I still want to hear more aboutthe story of you and Troy.
When did you become besties?
I didn't say besties.
I still want to hear more aboutthe story of you and Troy.
When did you become besties?
I didn't say besties, we'refriends.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Something's not right.
(18:00):
What's not right about?
I remember Wait, wait, wait,wait, wait, wait, just wait a
minute.
Okay, okay, why?
Why is it so hard to understandthat Squeak and somebody can be
buddies?
I'm not saying that Not bestfriends, but buddies.
(18:21):
We're talking about Troy.
We have a body in common.
You threw frickin' melons atTroy's car.
That was in the past.
Yeah, okay, you threw frickin'melons at Troy's car.
Yeah, I heard the interviewwith him.
He seemed very upset about it.
Oh boy, that's what we'll getto buddy.
(18:46):
Anyway, I was so excited abouttalking about my music.
That's what we'll get to buddy.
Well, and then here comes allthis how's Troy?
And then when I say it'severything good, you want to go
against the grain.
I like Troy buddy.
I don't think everything's thatgood.
Well, that's because I thinkTroy doesn't like you.
(19:07):
You should hear how Troy talksabout you.
Well, I think Troy's a sayinggood.
Well, that's because I thinkTroy doesn't like you.
You should hear how Troy talksabout you.
Well, I think Troy's a greatguy Me too.
Yeah, see, something's off,something's not right here.
What do you mean?
I can see Troy letting bygonesbe bygones, right, but not you,
squeak.
You have a motive, something'sgoing on.
(19:30):
I've known you long enough,buddy.
No, no, no, we can agree todisagree.
I don't disagree with you atall, oh well, anyways, okay,
let's skip to the song.
Did you actually do the properhomework this week?
Skip to Malou, yes, okay.
Did you actually do the properhomework this week?
Skip to Malou, yes, okay.
What about the songs those guyspicked?
(19:52):
What did you think?
Don't ask me that.
Why Screak?
Those were good songs.
You were going to want me to beall nice and everything.
Something's wrong.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Screak.
Let me just make you feel goodthat nothing's wrong.
Okay, their choices suck.
Wow, I thought all four ofthose songs were Bye-bye
American Pie.
Well, there's still AmericanPie all over the damn place.
That's not what the song'sabout.
(20:25):
Squeak, well, what is the songabout then?
It says it right there in thetitle.
I think both of those guys Ithink Mike and Tom both explain
what the song is about.
Well, have you heard Tomexplain?
Shit, it gets a little old.
I don't know what happened.
And it goes over the mountainand through the valley.
(20:45):
He did slump a little, a little.
He's got backstories.
Have you heard?
This guy's an idiot.
He couldn't say the ABCswithout going through the damn I
don't know.
Okay, so, screech, what songsdid you pick?
And you stuck to 72, right, ofcourse I did.
(21:09):
Okay, what's your first one?
My dang-a-lang.
Ah, squeak, no, no, no.
Of all the Chuck Berry songs.
That's what you pick.
Yeah, because you know why.
Why, it's the only number onehe had.
He had that.
It was the only number one songhe ever had.
Okay, that's pretty sad.
(21:29):
He had that.
It was the only number one songhe ever had.
Okay, that's pretty sad.
Yeah, well, that's the onlynumber one thing I have.
Why?
Why do you like this song,squeak?
Why would it be sad if that wasthe only number one thing I had
?
Okay, is that the only reasonyou like it?
Because of my dangling?
Yeah, because it was the onlynumber one hit from Chuck Berry.
(21:52):
No other reason you like it?
No, it's got nothing to do withChuck.
Oh, it's because he's singingabout his dangling.
That's why I like it.
You're pretty juvenile.
Well, that's why everybodyliked it.
It was the dangling song.
So screw Chuck Berry.
(22:12):
The song's funny.
And here's something elsethat's funny about the song.
Of all the songs, you ever getto that part where he's swimming
across Turtle Creek, yeah, andit's hard getting across that
creek, yeah, and both handsholding his dangling leg.
Could you imagine somebodyflopping around out there with
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both hands down under the water?
And what was he doing floppingaround?
There's something wrong withyou, squeak.
Yeah, there's something wrongwith him too.
Let go of the ding-a-ling andswim ashore, you stupid.
Yeah, well, give me a squeak.
I think that's funny as, anyway, it's Swim.
Sure, you Scream.
Here you scream.
I think that's funny as hell.
Well, it is kind of funny, butof all the songs in 72, you
(22:57):
picked that one.
Yeah, it was funny.
Okay, I can't wait to hear yournext one.
Me neither.
What is it?
You tell me I smell something.
It's a prominent skank in thebuilding.
(23:21):
Yeah, I see you, dirty dog you.
Anyway, what the hell?
I've never even heard of thatstupid song.
Yes, you have.
No, I haven't.
Everybody heard.
Like Dead sky along the road.
I want it, you do it, I threeit, you four it, I five it, you
(23:41):
six it, I seven it, you eight it.
I didn't eat no such thing.
Well, that's what the song says.
Oh, that stupid song.
Anyway, I remember that songAgain.
Okay, my ding-a-ling, I canlive with that one.
It was a popular song.
I live with my ding-a-ling allthe time, not your ding-a-ling,
my ding-a-ling.
(24:02):
I don't live with yourding-a-ling.
Yeah, I, I hope not, anyways.
We're not really a couple.
Keep telling yourself thatSqueak, no, anyways, what?
The Dead skunk in the road,what somebody.
I see dead skunks all the timein the road.
You think I'm going to stop andwrite a stupid song.
Those are possums, yeah, thoseare stupid too.
(24:24):
Yeah, but if you're ever in thewoods, yeah, just follow a
possum, why They'll take you tothe road.
Oh goodness gracious, what aboutsquirrels?
They do the same thing.
You can't follow a squirrel.
Why.
You're going to jump aroundtree to tree.
That'd be fun, and hop aroundhere and fly over there.
(24:44):
I think that would be prettyfun, sweet, well, it'd be fun,
but you can't do it.
You know what else?
If I was a squirrel, I couldvisit the old Keebler.
If you were a squirrel, I wouldgo visit the Keebler elves.
Well, oh, you're not friendlywith them though.
Still, oh, oh, okay, nope, why,why Did you not listen to that
(25:09):
podcast?
I heard it all and you knowwhat.
Their cookies are wonderful.
Their cookies are shit.
No, no, no, what.
What Would you eat?
The coconut, stupid ones,coconut, or what are those other
ones?
Those stupid sandies?
What the hell's a sandy cookie,exactly?
Why in the hell would you makea cookie like that.
That's stupid.
(25:30):
Yeah, but their fudge cookies,their fudge mint cookies, are
delicious.
Squeak Nutter butter, those areall right, but that's not
Keebler.
I know Nutter butter.
Oh, you're comparing.
Do they make them in a tree?
No Well, then they suck?
No, they don't.
Yeah, elephants, elephants makethem.
(25:51):
Again, we can agree to disagree.
Okay, well, what about thisdead skunk in the middle of the
road?
Yeah, are we going to agree tothat?
No, you can't.
I mean, that's a song youpicked out I've never heard of
it.
I like that song Sounds.
I've never heard of it.
I like that song Sounds stupid.
No, it's a legit song.
It's I'm sure it's legit Squeak, but it just you write about
(26:16):
things.
You know All the songs in 72.
You're so vain.
Ah, there's many others.
Yeah, and you pitched that onehow stupid is that song?
You're so vain Probably takethe songs about you.
Well, guess what dumbass it is?
Oh, okay.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
It's about you.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I'm singing about you
.
How is that not about you?
Anyway, yeah, me too.
I do want to say this Squeak,maybe we're better off you not
picking out songs, because youcan't seem to pick out a good
song if your life depended on it.
Listen, that was a great song.
It's like Squeak, I'm going topick out the dumbest songs and
(26:59):
that's what I'm picking.
That's not a dumb song, that'swhat it seems like.
Did you see that?
Damn, whatever the heck thatwas they had on there?
Stupid shit there at the end.
Good songs, no good songs.
Sylvia's Mother by Dr Hook no,no, no, no, no.
The one that you said well,listen to this and that Go All
the Way.
(27:20):
Uh, oh, oh, no, no, yeah, thatthat, that Chaka-ra or whatever
the hell it was.
Yeah, chaka-chaka-chaka.
I didn't play that, he playedthat.
Yeah, exactly that's what I'mtrying to say.
Well, that was stupid.
Yeah, that's we.
Yeah, I think that was theirpoint, though, buddy, you said
well, did you hear that stupidshit?
(27:41):
Yeah, well, did you hear thestupid shit they played?
Okay, what?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
about their two
favorite songs.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, you gotta get
off the sexual stuff.
That was well.
What about the two songs theyboth picked?
Those were good.
I well, I did.
I did enjoy.
You made fun of American Pie.
Well, I enjoyed Sylvia's mother.
I enjoyed Sylvia's mother.
(28:07):
Wait a minute, squeak.
What do you mean?
You enjoyed Sylvia's mother.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I enjoyed Sylvia's
mother Wait a minute Squeak.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
What do you mean?
You enjoyed Sylvia's mother.
What does that even mean?
You can read between the linesyeah, you're between something.
Yeah, well, there's somethingwrong with you.
Yeah, pen to sound panty.
All right, you know what?
We're going to end this rightnow.
Off that.
I can't believe you even saidthat stuff.
Oh boy, yeah, yeah, we're goingto end it.
(28:30):
We'll be back, maybe next time,or maybe it'll just be the Pip
Show.
Yeah, we're going to say a PipShow.
Yeah, yeah, I've been to thosebefore.
Yeah, I'm sure, listen, buddy,I've been to a Pip Show.
You better change your attitudea little.
You started off very nice andnow you're being an ass.
(28:52):
We're going to go now.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Holy crap, squeak.
What the hell, what the hell isdead skunk in the middle of the
road.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Not sure.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I've heard of my
ding-a-ling, Chuck Berry.
That's freaking awesome.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, have you heard
of?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
it ding-a-ling, chuck
berry.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
That's freaking
awesome yeah uh, yeah, have you
heard of it ding-a-ling?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
no, that ding-a-ling
the dead skunk in the middle of
the road.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
You have heard of
that, yeah tom, I gotta admit
I've never heard of it there's,there's a lot.
Yeah, I always thought you andsqueak were kind of like no, no,
no, kind of the same, somewhatNot the same at all You're not
as angry as Squeak.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Well.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
A little different
there oh a little.
But the good thing is he stuckto the program.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
He did, he did.
Those are songs from 72.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yep, they did.
We'll give him credit.
Grumbled a little bit about it.
Yeah, we let him do what hewanted.
He'd be picking songs from nowtill bouncing around everywhere,
but anyways, now we get to gointo our 72 segments, yeah,
which I'm excited about.
Damn, there was a lot of songsfrom 72 a lot of great songs a
lot of songs yeah yeah, it wasso many.
(30:07):
Uh, you have any from 72.
Now, it was a long list ofsongs, tom, we could have picked
any, but we, both of us hadthat.
We picked two songs each people.
We went to the top 100 songs of72.
Each of us said, you know,let's find two songs, that
there's a lot of songs we alllike, we both liked, yeah, we
both love so many 80.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I'd say again, but oh
, yeah, but uh, two songs that
kind of stuck out to both of usand those are the ones we're
going to talk about right so, uh, you go ahead there first tom
well, I think the first one thatI'm going to talk about a
little bit is the, the americanpie ah, don mclean, classic that
is a good song, and another oneof my favorites well, I think
(30:52):
the reason that it stands out somuch to me is because I'm such
a Skinner fan and most of thepeople think that this song was
written about the Lynyrd Skynyrdplane crash.
Nope, you're right, but that'sreally not what happened.
But that's every time I hearthe song.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Usually, I think it's
about Buddy Holly, right yeah
it was the Big Bopper.
Big Bopper Buddy Holly.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
But people want to
transfer the tragedy for oh,
that meant this, and that's like9-11.
Everything means this, Rightright right this right, right,
but you know, and, but I'm justsaying this song makes me think
(31:40):
of the plane crash and how ittook out so many great great
yeah who knows what would havebeen you know what would have
been uh exactly, and to me thatwas the guy that the labamba guy
was on that plane, buddy holly,and uh, um, uh, was it richie
balin or richie, something likethat big bopper?
yeah, the La Bamba guy was onthat plane too.
Yeah, buddy Holly, buddy Holly.
And.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Was it Richie Balin
or Richie, something like that
Big Bopper, yeah A lot of themand just so many young people.
Now the song itself, though, isjust a great song Snuffed out.
Yeah, you know that I've heardforever.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
What the hell was
that?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yeah, I'm not sure
that was a long, long time.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, that's YouTube
doing its favorite.
Let's throw a commercial inevery two seconds.
There you go Buy our product.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
But anyway.
That was a great song in my eraand it just reminds me of so
much, a lot of good times andthings.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
It is one of those
nostalgic type songs, whether
it's thinking about that or justhanging around with friends and
reminiscing about thingsAwesome.
Let's play it out a littlethere you go.
Great story through the songExcellent song Tom.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Excellent song.
Love that song.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Anybody who grew up
in that era pretty much
remembers that.
Okay, so I myself.
You know who Eric Carman is,sure, well, he was in a band
back in the day called theRaspberries Right, a song that,
(33:29):
like I was saying, my song istalking about Eric Carman when
he was with the RaspberriesRight Go All the Way, which I
thought was my song, is talkingabout Eric Kierman, which is
Raspberries Go All the Way,which I thought was a great song
.
I remember being, you know, oneof my first girlfriends
listening to this, but this isalways it's just one of them
songs that always has anostalgic feel to me.
I love the song and, like Isaid, I remember one girl in
(33:52):
particular.
I'm not going to mention anynames, it's a song playing Some
other girl you know a littlemaking out in the back seat,
some other girl which we were inthe front seat, but it's just
that song just stuck with me, Iunderstand, and, of course, eric
Carman, which at the time Ididn't know Eric Carman, was in
that band.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I had no idea.
You even lived back then.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Great song.
You see what I'm saying.
You feel it, man.
It's just it was perfect time,perfect song.
It was like and of course yougo home after like Lovey, dovey
and shit, you know, Stars inyour eyes yeah, exactly that
feeling.
That's what this song does forme and to this day I'll still
(34:35):
listen to this song.
Not because of that, it's justI like the song, but it does
bring back those memories.
It sure does.
I remember when I first heardthis, but that was one of mine
and yours was.
What was your next one?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Well, you know, we
always got to go back to good
old Dr Hook.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Dr Hook.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Good old Dr Hook.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Dr Hook and the song.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, in the 70s.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Sylvia's.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Sylvia's mother.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Sylvia's mother.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
And every time you go
to a 1970s, 1971, 1972, every
year you're going to find a DrHook song Right, and every one
of them always brings somethingback to me.
And once again it's when I wasyoung.
(35:29):
I stayed and spent a lot oftime with my sister and her
husband.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
And they had these in
8-track.
Ah, 8-track, I would sit attheir farmhouse in the summer
for hours on end and listen tothese Because they would go to
work.
And there I was, on this farm,miles from anywhere.
That's all I had.
It was Dr Hook on an 8-track,and so these songs.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I can remember.
You obviously are a Dr Hook fan.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, I am Most of
their songs are really good.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
I know a lot of their
songs.
You actually told me many songsI never even realized was Dr
Hook.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Right right.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I was shocked.
I'm like thinking of them asthis weird-ass band.
I'm pretty much a Dr Hook fan.
Yeah, I'm like Rolling Stoneand all that crap.
I'm thinking that and you'retelling me what.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Cover the Rolling
Stones.
And yeah, the other one youcouldn't believe was when You're
in Love with a.
Beautiful Woman.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
When You're in.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Love with a Beautiful
Woman.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
That's them, Yep yep,
that's them.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
So what's this song
actually about?
He's calling up hisex-girlfriend and he's getting a
hold of her mom.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And she's like no,
she's upstairs and she's packing
, she's going to be leavingtoday.
She's got her another fella.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
You're dead.
Is she a hoe?
Yeah, no, no, yeah.
Well, he treated her like shit.
He probably did.
Now her mother's like no, she'sgoing to do better.
She's been marrying a felladown Galveston Way.
Yeah, as the song would say, ohthat's kind of sad.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, it is a sad
song.
Well for him, I guess.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Well, sylvia, she
seems to think it's okay, but he
keeps screaming so she's hadenough, yeah.
And he keeps screaming to theoperator, hey, no, 20 cents more
.
And he keeps dumping quartersin the phone.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Ah, okay, all right,
so mine is.
I don't know if you know thisone.
You've heard of Bad Finger.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, okay, I have a
Bad Finger.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
They have a song
called no Matter what.
Well to me.
I remember when I first heardthis this is why this song
sticks out to me I thought forsure it was the Beatles.
Ah, I thought it was a newBeatles song At that time.
At that time I was starting tomy aunt.
I remember going to their housethey had 45s of Beatles.
(37:59):
Yeah, so I listened to thoseand that's when I started
getting into the Beatles.
You know, you get into thosedifferent bands at that age, but
anyways, badfinger, when Iheard that song playing I'm
(38:21):
sorry, this sounded like PaulMcCartney to me a little bit,
just a little bit Back then tome that's who I thought it was.
Especially the harmonizingcomes in.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
This is such a good
song too.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
To me at that time,
this song was freaking kick-ass.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
There's so many good
72 songs Again.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Tom 72,.
We had so many we had to pickout, we threw them all.
Both of us went through themall.
Yeah, it was tough.
I could have picked out 30 or40 of them.
Yeah, but the ones that stickout, like I said, uh, raspberry
song, because of that moment andthis, I was a beatles fanatic
(39:00):
back then still like the beatles, just not as much.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
This sounds like the
beatles to me.
Yeah, it does me too excellentsong though great song and again
.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
So many flipping
songs from the 70s that we could
just go over and talk about.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Y'all send us some of
your favorite 72 songs, yeah
exactly, and this journey willcontinue.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
We could do a whole
few hours on this, but it'd be
like listening to a radiostation, obviously with the
rules and all that.
We can't do that, can't playother people's songs and just
play them without royalties.
We can't do that.
Can't play other people's songsand just play them without
royalties.
We're not rich people.
But anyways, great song, greatfour songs.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
This music, we are
rich.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
And I wish I could
just keep playing more.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Just keep going.
Next yeah exactly, but there isone song in particular Tom.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
One in particular.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
One in particular.
We were going through our listearlier.
Do you remember what song itwas?
Think and don't worry.
I can edit shit, so don't worryabout it.
I'm not pausing anymore.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Daddy, don't worry, I
can edit shit, so don't worry
about it.
I'm not pausing anymore.
Daddy, don't walk so fast.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Let me refresh your
memory.
Refresh it yeah let me refresh,see if what you hear catches
your.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
You can name that
tune in three notes.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
I don't hear anything
coming out right now.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
You have to give me
three notes.
Oh shit, yeah that's all right.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, that's what I
say too.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
I can feel it with
the eye.
Oh yeah, the clickety-clacks.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
What the hell is that
?
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Yeah, that's them
clickety-clacks.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
All right, wait for
it.
Wait for it, here it comes.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
No, no, no, eye eye.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
What'd she do, fart?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Well, she said no, so
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
No, no, I think she
just had a problem with her.
Well, wait a minute.
More than a malfunction.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I see.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I see, I see.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
I don't know if
there's someone being kidnapped,
tortured or good-ass sex.
I don't know what's going onhere, yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
I'm not too sure
about that last part either.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Chacachas Jungle
Fever.
Jungle Fever I have never, everheard of this song before now.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Well, I've had a
fever, but not like this.
No.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
So if anybody out
there has ever heard of this,
we'd like to hear from you.
Yes, 1972.
Where were you?
What the hell were you thinkingwhen you heard this?
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, no 1972.
Where were you?
What the hell were you thinkingwhen you heard this?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah, no, no, no.
I still want to know what theno, no, no is.
What's going on?
Brr, yeah, anyways that's apretty messed up, tune there.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Yeah See, 1972 was
great, and then it was like
Something a little weird.
Remember when people said say,oh, I had a brain fart.
Yeah, well, that one shit itspants.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
This is what happens
when you do research.
Sometimes you stumble down someeffed up shit yeah, whoa,
what's this, what the?
Hell is that?
I have no idea, and there yougo and there you have it there's
one I've never heard no, yeah,I'm shocked on.
You heard them all, but notthat one.
I never heard that one, andI've heard some funky ass shit,
(42:40):
but not that one either and I'lljust tell you, that's that one
I was at a top 100 it was it, itwas uh, I know why.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Why go ahead?
Well, I can edit.
It was a spanish song.
We wouldn't have known thatthat's not ours.
That's spanish.
You just go?
No, no listen.
Yeah, yeah, okay, that Spanish.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Spanish people got
better communication than that.
No.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Okay, taco.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Oh, what the hell is
that?
Speaker 4 (43:19):
See that's Spanish.
See that's communication rightthere.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
The 10 worst songs
from We'll do that another time?
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah Well, that
wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, anyways, that
would have been on one of them.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Didn't we just start
that?
Yeah, anyways, that would havebeen on one of them, didn't?
Speaker 3 (43:33):
we just start that.
Yeah, we started something.
We started something.
Anyways, bud, another greatepisode.
Love this episode, I did too.
Remember people.
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Yeah no, karens, we
don't need people crying for
stupid reasons.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Just, unfortunately,
you didn't like us, so don't
listen to us, but anyway, Idon't know how else to say that.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
No, no, you said it
right.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Okay, okay, okay,
okay, and we always thank God
for the gift of gab.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Everybody thanks
Later, later.
Everyone thanks God bless andwe'll see you next time Later.
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Speaker 2 (44:59):
And that, dear
listeners, brings us to the end
of yet another episode of the MTAlternative Podcast, where the
takes are hot, the hosts arequestionably prepared and the
sarcasm is absolutely free.
Now, next week, braceyourselves.
We're getting back to talkingabout music.
Yes, real music, specificallythe glorious, weird and possibly
(45:24):
flared pants-filled year of1973.
Expect nostalgia, guitar solosand at least one mention of a
band that should have broken upearlier.
Oh, and Pip and Squeak.
Yeah, they're supposed toreturn for their segment, unless
Squeak gets left behind by Troyand Pip decides to Uber to a
(45:44):
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