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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, well, well,
look who's back for more.
Welcome to anotherintellectually unstable episode
of the MT Alternative Podcast,the show that dares to ask what
if Mike and Tom had a platformand no adult supervision?
This week, our two budgeteconomists tackle the riveting
world of tariffs.
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What if Mike and Tom had aplatform and no adult
supervision?
This week, our two budgeteconomists tackle the riveting
world of tariffs.
Yes, tariffs, that magical wordpoliticians say when they want
to sound tough but still can'tdo math.
Expect, hot takes, lukewarmfacts and enough sarcasm to make
an international tradenegotiator cry into their
spreadsheets.
And, of course, it wouldn't bethe MT Alternative without their
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music segment, where this weekthey rewind to a song from 1971.
A time when bell-bottoms werewide, nixon was president and
somehow the world still managedto spin.
Will it be a classic hit oranother track Tom swears he
discovered before.
It was cool.
Only one way to find out.
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So buckle up, roll your eyesand prepare for economic
enlightenment, served with aside of mockery.
It's Mike, it's Tom, it's theMT Alternative Podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Welcome back to the
mt alternative podcast tom.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
What the hell's going
on?
Not much mike.
What's going on with you?
Not a hell of a lot.
You know, the usual bud, theusual what great weather we're
having today it is nice.
You know what, though?
I don't think we had enoughrain.
I hate to say that.
No, that sounds stupid.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
No you're right, it's
still pretty dry out there and
the pollen is horrible.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
The pollen sucks.
Yeah, I know you're having alittle issue today yourself
there with the pollen.
Yeah, it bothers me slightly,I'm not going to lie, but it
kind of kicked your ass a littlebit.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, yeah.
Here's what bothers me.
I'm on my way over here Right,and there's at least two people
that I've seen that has had yardfires going today.
Are we still not under astatewide burn ban?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That I don't know,
but it is dry.
It's very windy today.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Very windy today,
warm Stupid.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I don't either.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
And I just want to go
to uh leftists, yeah, right you
know, what it's leftist.
We're gonna start saying theprogressives don't seem to be
the real idiots what a dumb namefor them, though are they
really progressing?
But I wanted to touch on workand something you said many
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podcasts ago.
What the hell was thatyesterday?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, what the hell
was that what?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
the frick.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, yesterday was a
different day.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, I got to
apologize for being a little
bitchy towards the end there.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah Well, we all
were.
I was kind of ragging it.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I've been a little
bitchy all week, kind of ragging
it at the end of the day andkind of felt shitty about it.
But hey, today's a differentday.
Here we are.
Yay, exactly, podcast day,podcast day, yee-hee, so uh.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Research.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Guess what I'd like
to hit on today, tom.
Besides, you know, unusualpleasantries and blah, blah,
blah.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Not going to hit on
me again, are you?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
No, no, I'm done with
that.
Oh good, not getting meanywhere.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Good yeah, no means
no yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Oh yeah, Well, maybe.
Anyways, what's your opinion onthe tariffs so far with Trump?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Bring them on.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I say the same.
You know what I say.
If it goes short pain, longgain, I'm up for it.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We'll see what
happens and people are already
negotiating.
I mean, these countries areputting tariffs on us and nobody
bats an eye on the shit.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
And even back in—
Obama was in favor of it.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, even back in 18
, when he first was in and he
put tariffs on.
I wonder if they were so bad.
I wonder how come the nextadministration didn't take them
out or do anything about.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Amazing, isn't it?
Yeah, Pretty amazing how thathappens, yeah.
But before we even get to that,let's talk about some of these
tariffs that we have put on us,which I think are extraordinary.
We've got Vietnam at one time100% tariffs on cars imports.
India is another one.
Lo and behold, though, we havesome countries that are some
places that are like negotiatingnow.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, wanting to say,
oh, wait, wait, wait yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's like it just
amazes me.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, well, you know
how it is when you get called
out on something.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Oh exactly, but
there's small businesses and
farmers that are for it.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Oh yeah, farmers
would be for it, because why
would we?
Okay, our nation is the top.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But we're looking out
for American-made products,
Exactly exactly.
I understand we do have to getsome stuff from other countries.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Sure, there are some
things let's put where we work.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
For instance, where
do we get our stuff from China
and South Korea?
Yes, I don't know much aboutSouth Korea, as much as I'm sure
there's sweatshops, but I knowChina is that way they have all
kinds of sweatshops.
So our company's okay with, oh,tariffs.
Well, you're okay with payingthese sweatshop people?
Bottom dollar so you can get itover here and charge up and not
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pay your employees either, butthat's another story for another
day.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yep, another podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Another podcast.
But anyways, let's get back tosmall businesses.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yes.
Not big companies, smallbusiness.
I think farmers are smallbusiness.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I got some things,
some bullet points that I did.
We did actually do a littleresearch this time, Tom.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I know it's
surprising.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
All right.
Number one is patriotism andeconomic nationalism.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
A lot of farmers and
small business owners saw
Trump's tariffs, especially onChina, as a way of standing up
for America.
They liked the idea of reducingdependence on foreign countries
, especially those seen ascompetitors or adversaries.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Okay.
Short-term pain, what I justsaid.
Short-term pain for a long-termgain Okay.
Some believe that, whiletariffs hurt in the short term,
they could lead to a bettertrade deals or bring
manufacturing jobs back in thelong run.
Farmers, for instance, oftenfelt they had been treated
unfairly in global trade andthought the tariffs might reset
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the playing field.
I think so.
I absolutely think so.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Again with small
businesses also, You're
competing against China forsending all this cheap crap.
Hey, I'm guilty of buying thesame stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You're guilty of it,
we're all guilty of it, but
here's the thing I'm reallyhaving trouble seeing that the
people can't understand andthey're not hearing about these
other people trying to negotiatenow.
So it's already starting to geta little bit better Right and I
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am getting to that You're notgetting ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's stuff we talked
about earlier, so you're
bringing it up and that's fine.
I'm going to scoot down tolet's see Farmers and
agriculture.
Here's the regions that areaffected Midwest Iowa, nebraska,
kansas, illinois.
The south is Arkansas, texasand Georgia.
Impact the tariffs on China ledto retaliatory tariffs on US
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soybeans, pork and other goods.
This hurts exports badly.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Makes sense Right.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And this is why they
support.
Many farmers still back Trump,trusting that the trade war
would lead to better long-termdeals.
The government bailout they hadthat market facultation program
I don't know if I'm saying thatright, sorry Funneled $28
billion to aid the farmersbetween 2008 and 2020.
Trump thing To maintain support.
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Deep red regions.
Loyalty to Trump, bigger agendafor America first, they're all
into that.
Then we got the steelmanufacturers.
That's where we're getting hurttoo.
You used to have Pittsburgh,for instance.
Yeah, big steel town.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Now it's steel city.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Right, you know we
can go with the car auto Detroit
.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, Exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Keeps going on and on
.
Now back to what you weresaying about these countries
right now negotiating yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Whoa, whoa, whoa,
let's back up.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
People are all
freaking out.
Trump is a businessman.
He's a negotiator.
It sounds alarming.
Everything that he's doing, itdoes.
It sounds alarming.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Look at the stock
market.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Stock market really
doesn't affect me.
It doesn't affect you so muchIf you have a 401k plan.
We're older yes, it mightaffect us right now A little bit
Older people.
Who's the big people?
Who's got the stock market?
Rich people?
That would be someone likeDonald Trump and everybody else
Exactly so.
Wouldn't they be losing money?
You think he's going to letthis keep happening?
He's a musk.
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I mean come on and if you're inyour 20s and your 30s and you
have a 401k, you have no worries.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
It doesn't even
affect your ass?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Nope, but anyways.
So people freaking out.
Tom, you brought up Vietnam.
They were up to 100% on carimports and other things I don't
know what the percentage wasand everything else.
Vietnam has offered to removeall tariffs as part of a
potential agreement with the US.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Remove all.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Remove all.
President Trump acknowledgedthis offer and noted that other
countries have also expressedinterest in discussions.
The United Kingdom PrimeMinister, sarkir Starmer, views
the US tariffs as an opportunityto attract investment and is
pursuing negotiations for abroader economic deal with the
United States.
I'm sure I hacked his name andI apologize.
India.
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India has taken another onewith 100% tariffs on cars and
imports.
India has taken steps toaddress trade issues, including
lowering tariffs on certainAmericanquefied natural gas and
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military equipment, in responseto US tariff threats.
Switzerland, swiss politicaland business leaders have
expressed strong interest ininitiating negotiations for a
free trade agreement with theUnited States.
Additionally, countries such asCanada, mexico and China have
involved in trade discussionsand have implemented retaliatory
measures in response to UStariffs.
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These negotiations andretaliatory actions reflect the
complex dynamics ofinternational trade relations
influenced by recent US tariffpolicies.
Still, there's negotiationsgoing on.
China's been screwing us foryears.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Now they're wanting
to wait a minute.
Let's negotiations going on,yeah.
I mean, china's been screwingus for years.
Now they're wanting to, well,wait a minute.
Let's talk about this, yeah,because we're fighting back.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And of course, they
want to retaliate.
They want to look at the toughguy.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And you know people
complain.
Well, I'm not going to get thisPeople.
It's negotiating again.
You might pay a little more inthe long run down the road, but
if we have fair competitivenesshere in the United States.
I don't know, it's a touchysubject for me, it really is
right there, like I said ifTrump fails, I'll be the first
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one to get up and say you stupidass.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Let's give it a time,
people, it just happened
Because it is a good concept hejust put tariffs on.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Let's give it a time.
People, it just happenedBecause it is a good concept.
He just put tariffs on let'sgive it a break and saying that,
Tom, I'm very thirsty.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, I could use a
little beverage.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, me too.
There we go.
Now we're cooking.
I am drinking the Beast PinkPoison.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Ooh, okay, am I going
to have to?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
give mouth to mouth.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Is it poison?
No, no, nope, not that kind ofpoison.
No, okay, good, here goespoison.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Poison.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, poison.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That's Keystone.
I know poison over there.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah, that's today's
poison.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, that's today's
poison.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, speaking of
today's poison.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I did some research.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, I did a little
research.
Back to the crispy blunt.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I'm feeling pretty
good actually.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, yeah, this is a
decent day.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It is a decent day.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
After all the fires
and everything, we're in the
house right now, with AC on andno pollen.
Yeah, they're good.
But yeah, a couple weeks ago,when we were doing our podcast,
we had some fires going on indifferent areas.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
One got pretty close
to my house.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, got really
close A little.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, got
really close A little smoky.
Well, shit, we're sitting onthe porch last time looking at
the smoke coming out fromanother fire.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Same day another fire
.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Now, how's the fire
going up by the mountains right
now?
I don't know I hear more aboutTable Rock in South Carolina.
They caught three teenagers, Iguess, that were smoking.
I want to know how they foundout who the hell that was.
I mean, that's kind of strange.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, I mean, how do
you pinpoint that?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Okay, you were
smoking.
You left the cigarettes going.
What?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
How'd you find that?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
out.
I'm thinking maybe it was moreor less of a joint, but whatever
.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Not up in the
mountains on a hiking trip,
can't get any higher.
Anyway, yeah, I'm excited abouta mountain trip now.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
A little bit.
We still got to do our researchon Brown Mountain Lights
ourselves.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, that was.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Daniel, go up there
ourselves.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Daniel brought some
points up that I would like to.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I believe that was
Bill.
You're a little scared.
I believe that was Bill.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Bill, bill, bill
filled in for us that day.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
That was Bill.
I was thinking Daniel, but itwas Bill.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
He's a really
respectable man.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Bill is, yeah, bill
is.
He's totally Squeak, yeah,squeak.
Didn't care for Bill mucheither.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
No, not much.
Bill don't care for or Squeakdon't care for anybody.
I don't think.
No, he thinks Squeak thinks hestole his stuff out of the
laundromat.
Yeah well.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I don't even think he
had anything in the laundromat.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
No, probably not.
Hey looking forward to oursegment of 1971 songs later.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I'm excited about
that.
I am too.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Tax season's falling
upon us.
Yay, oh, wow.
Everybody get excited aboutthat.
I'm not excited because I neverget shit back, so it really
doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I let them take what
they're going to.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
And then that's what
they get.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
That's what it should
be.
I'm going to pause.
That's what it should be.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I'm going to pause.
Yeah, it's a whole lot like theBaptist and the Catholic and
the other guy in the bank onMonday that were depositing all
the church donations andeverything from Sunday.
So while they were waiting inline, they decided to talk to
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each other.
Well, how do you guys decide todo it?
Well, the Catholic guy saidwell, we draw a big circle on
the floor and we throw up themoney, and what falls inside the
circle is ours, and what fallsoutside the circle is God's.
And that was the Catholic.
Well, the Mormon guy says well,we kind of do it the same way,
but we just draw a line and wethrow the money up, and what
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lands on the left side is oursand what lands on the right side
is God's.
So, well, baptist guy, how doyou do it?
He said well, we do it verysimilar.
We take up the offering, wethrow it up in the air.
What stays up there is his.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
What falls on the
ground is ours.
I like that one.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Yeah, well, there you
go.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Very interesting.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Shit.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Only you, tom, only
you Baptists.
Haven't heard anything aboutTroy and Squeak or anything.
I haven't really.
I guess it went seamlessbecause I know they're here.
Yeah, they'll be on a littlebit anyways, but it's kind of
strange.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah well, silence is
golden, but maybe it's deadly
too.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I'm kind of anxious
to know what.
Squeak's going to pull out forsongs this week, so he thinks he
can do better.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, like I said
last time, dr Demento.
Yeah, ray Stevens, I wonderwhere he's getting his crap from
.
It should be interestinganyways, so we'll see.
Let's see what happens.
You want to get him?
Bring him in.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Might as well.
Yeah'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You want to get them?
Bring them in Might as well.
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah, we'll get them in here.
All right, guys, we'll be backin a short while.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Hey, squeak.
What the hell's going on, bud?
Oh, not much, not much.
What's going on?
How was your helicopter ridethis week, buddy?
Did they have the little cagefor you?
No, how did you fly in thistime?
I was in.
I was in the helicopter.
Oh, you were actually in it.
Yeah, awesome, yeah, well.
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Well, you ever been in ahelicopter where the pilot
jumped out?
Why would Troy jump out?
I guess he got mad because Iwas talking to him too much.
Why?
That's why you were out of thehelicopter last time.
Squeak, yeah, well, anyway.
So what's going on with Troy?
(17:38):
He's healing.
What do you mean he's healing?
How the hell did the helicopterland?
That's why he's healing.
I don't understand.
What did you do to Troy?
Troy jumped out of thehelicopter.
I don't know how to fly it.
It crashed.
So he's healing.
What else don't you understand?
(17:59):
What happened to you?
How did you survive?
I was in a glove compartment,what?
Yeah, that's some funny shit.
Save my ass, that's some funnyshit.
Yeah, it is some funny shit.
Ah, there, dirty dog, I'm okayin New Zealand.
That's funny.
Well, so much for your ride towork.
Scoot, yeah, what, what, what?
(18:20):
Yeah, well, I guess it's backto driving.
No, yes, no, no.
I don't drive anywhere.
What do you mean not driving?
I don't, I don't like to.
You have a vehicle, I know, andthey put me out back in the
damn flowers.
I don't like that.
You're very fussy.
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It's not out back.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It's by the flower
bed.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well, that's where I
need to be.
The only thing I like about acar is I can listen to the radio
and hear some of my favoritesongs, because them two
dumbasses went through whateverthe hell.
That was Crazy shit.
I got some good music.
Speaking of music, okay, youdidn't like this segment last
(19:08):
week?
No, why, it was a bunch of dumbmusic.
Oh, come on.
Okay, scree, what's some ofyour songs?
Well, it sure wasn't.
That was a very good song.
If you were in La La Landwaiting for the UFO to come get
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you, mike and Tom would do somenostalgia listening to that.
That's wonderful.
Well, it is wonderful, I'mhappy.
Very nostalgic song, I'm happy.
Let's hear what Squeak likes tolisten to.
Okay, all right.
Well, let's play a few of these, alright, uh, how about First
(19:56):
off?
Yeah, background check,background check.
I don't believe every damnbuddy was kung fu fighting.
You don't.
Everybody was kung fu fighting.
Oh, chuck, I don't believeevery damn buddy was kung fu
fighting.
You don't.
Everybody was kung fu fighting.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
How do you know Everybody?
Everybody, okay, okay, you'vebeen to the family reunion,
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right, right, to toast AuntEthel over 375 pounds, right,
I'm sure she wasn't doing theoverhead sling karate kick to no
damn buddy.
She probably did the best ofher ability.
Yeah, the couch karate.
So that's what that was.
Flop over the back onto thecouch.
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It is a good song.
I like it, I like it, but not agood song.
Well, I, I, I like it, I likeit, but not for that reason.
You just think they're lying.
Yeah, they're lying.
You think they're lying?
I know I wasn't Kung FuFighting.
How do you know?
I well, I'm just not.
What the hell?
I'm just not.
Yeah, okay.
(21:01):
So what are the signs?
Well, they're like.
What about your favorite sign?
The street, that you like thatone?
Yeah, because people are naked.
You don't think that's stupid?
No, people are naked.
What's stupid about that?
They call him the street.
Yeah, the fastest thing on twofeet.
Boogadah, boogadah.
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And then what's poor Ethel gotto do with anything?
It's his girlfriend.
It didn't want her.
Looking at all these nakedpeople.
Look at the football game thereshe is.
Don't look, ethel, she done gota free throw.
What about the snow cone?
She's there again with no nose.
Say Well, ethel likes no jokes.
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And looking at naked people,she bakes the bottom off and
sucks all the juice out andleaves me with the eye.
That doesn't sound good at all.
Well, that sounds kind ofstrange, strange and dangerous.
I like the street, though it'sstupid.
But Okay, there I was standingby the face, don't forget.
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When it came late, she done gotit.
Hey, griggo, bye-bye, yeah, okay, what about the song?
I heard you cranking Disco Duck.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That's a good one, yeah, discodisco, by your luck.
Don't be a cluck.
No, no, it's with me.
(22:34):
Hey, what's a cluck?
It's what a chicken makes asound.
Oh, so if you're not doing theDisco Duck, you're just a dumb
chicken.
Is that free range?
Are these free range chickens?
Yes, I have a free rangechicken.
No, those aren't yours.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I told you.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
They're free.
It's in the title.
They're your neighbor'schickens that are arranged over
at my house for free Okay, allright.
That are ranged over at myhouse for free Okay, alright.
Where are them?
Chickens, check the range.
Hey, you made it funny At $3.50.
What a guy About an hour and ahalf.
(23:16):
Look at me.
I'm the Disco Knight.
Oh, check it out, mama.
I'm Drunk-A-Mill, mama Ha.
Oh, get down, mama.
I'm Dr Heavy and Rubber DiscoDisco Dog.
Dr Heavy and Rubber Disco DiscoDog.
Oh, get down, mama.
(23:37):
Dr Heavy and Rubber, don't be adog.
Disco Disco Dog.
What the hell is Sneaky Snake?
Yeah, you don't know SneakySnake.
I know some sneaky people thatare like Snake.
I don't like old Sneaky Snake.
He laughs too much.
(23:59):
You see, snakes don't laugh.
When he crawls up on the grasshe tickles his knee.
You've never heard.
I just did.
Snakes don't laugh, I just did.
And I'm appalled.
I'm appalled.
No, no, I'm appalled.
You're appalled, I'm appalledat your behavior right now.
What?
Because that was stupid.
(24:20):
That was an awesome song.
God.
Who sings that song?
I don't know, but it's a goodsong.
Some idiot, I suppose.
No, look it up.
Look it up and you can find it.
Look it up, yep, what am Ilooking up Sneaky Snake?
Why am I looking up SneakySnake?
Why would I do that?
It's a great song from back inthe day.
(24:40):
You should have thisinformation for me.
What happened to research?
I've done some research, youknow.
Ever since that long-tailedkangaroo rat, you haven't done
shit for research.
And I'm not talking about thegummy research, that doesn't
count, it don't?
No?
Well then, I'm behind, you arebehind.
(25:03):
You're behind the eight ballbuddy.
Oh, no, we're not researchingany eight ball.
No, no, I done did all theresearch on that.
I wanted no more of that shit.
Nope, woo, I like my heart.
I don't want it to explode.
No, you don't want it poppingout of your chest.
No, no, no, that was fun backin the day.
(25:27):
That was dumb back in the day.
Oh, that too.
That too, we were all so dumb.
Yeah, I wish I was dumb again.
Young or dumb, either way orboth.
Well, if I was young, I couldbe dumb.
Yeah, well, we're just old anddumb now.
(25:49):
I'm just old and dumb.
Yeah, that sucks Well betterthan being young and dumb and
full of cum.
I was never full of that.
No, no, I'm the other side.
Oh, wait a minute.
Yeah, you get filled up with it.
No, that's what I said.
(26:11):
No, I wasn't full of it.
Oh yeah, no, no, no, that's notthe other side.
When you're full of it, yougotta let it go.
Yeah, that's what it means.
Oh well, you're not getting it.
You're not the receiver, you'rethe giver.
Yeah, yeah, there you go See.
Yeah, but if I was Wait aminute, you got a little jumpy
(26:31):
on that.
Did this go back to the squirrel?
Damn squirrel.
I'm not talking, no more.
And where the hell is Troy whenyou need him?
You threw him out of ahelicopter.
Well, he better get his ass upand get me home.
I got news for you.
What Troy's not hurt.
He bailed on purpose.
He had a parachute.
(26:54):
Really, oh yeah, you should haveheard what Mike and Tom were
telling me.
They actually laughed about it.
The only thing that's sad isyou made it out.
Ah Well, let me just tell youI'm a little surprised myself,
not me.
That's not how it was supposedto go down.
It went down just like it wassupposed to.
(27:16):
The damn chopper stopped anddown it went.
Not that this was supposed to bejust a pip show.
I'm not saying that.
That's not what I mean at all.
Yeah, but no, no, no.
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen,here's Pip.
Thank you, the rangers in thenight Exchanges.
What was that?
(27:37):
Yeah, well, that's the pip show.
Is what that was.
Is that like a shit show?
Yeah, you're just falling apartwithout squeak, all righty,
yeah, well, I think I'm going towalk around town before I get
on that helicopter.
(27:57):
Well, there is no helicopter.
You'll be walking home.
No, we have another one.
No, no, troy says you're notallowed in that one.
Well, troy, don't have a wholelot to say about it.
It's the rope or nothing.
Well, swinging from the chopper?
No, no, no, that's not the song.
(28:18):
Oh, I'm not swinging fromnobody's chopper.
No more, they'll get me a cab.
A cab, yep.
I like talking to the Indianfella.
Oh, he doesn't work thereanymore.
Don't tell me that.
Yeah, they got some French guy.
No, francois something.
No, yeah, taxi cab drivers areall Indians.
(28:39):
Oh, this one's French, french,french, indian.
Just remember to call himFrancois.
Yeah, he doesn't like the othernames.
Francois Like Fran, franny,what's up?
Swatty?
No, no, no See, squeak.
Yeah, you're never going to geta ride home with that attitude.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
You watch.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
All right, buddy.
Well, until the next week.
Yeah, all right.
Well, I hope you're in a bettermood.
Well, it depends on what kindof music they let us listen to.
And leave Troy alone.
Well, troy, better leave mealone.
All right, I'll see y'all later.
All right, squeak, bye, bye.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Oh damn, squeak was
getting a little bit edgy there
there, a little bit, a littlebit what the hell?
Yeah, well, he's passionateabout his music what the hell
kind of music was that?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
a freaking sneaky
snake.
Oh well, you know how thestreak.
Yeah well, it's squeak.
Come on man.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
The street Kung Fu.
Everybody was in Kung Fufighting.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, it's a song.
Squeak yeah Like Sneaky Snake.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Oh goodness.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
There's really Sneaky
Snakes.
I can hear him saying thatRight Exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Well, on that note,
we're going to drift into our
own.
We're going to 1971, Tom yeah,I'm ready.
All right, I'm ready too.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
There are some great
songs in 1971.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
There absolutely is
All righty Tom, you know, going
back to 71, a lot of these songs.
Now, you were young, I wasyoung, I was eight, you were
what four?
So we're not going tonecessarily reminisce about 71.
Right, it's the songsthemselves that trigger.
(30:41):
Exactly that trigger.
It doesn't matter if it was twoyears ago, nope, 20 years ago.
It's what that song triggers onyou from that era Right.
So the first one, if youremember this one Tony Orlando
and Don Knock, three Times.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Oh, yeah, you
remember that one.
I do remember that.
Anyways, remember I do, it's agood one.
Yeah, this is yeah, back whenyou were like 12.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Now see, I do
remember this, probably at eight
years old my mom playing it inthe car on the radio or
something.
I don't have any older memoriesof it, just remember hearing
the song and liking it.
Merv Griffin, mike Douglas show.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I wouldn't have
remembered that, but what I do
remember is this song wasplaying and I was staying over
the night with this friend ofmine okay, when we were young
and he had this little sisterand we were sliding notes to
each other up through the little.
They had this pipe that wentthrough the ceiling from how old
(31:46):
were you right around then?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
probably 10, 11 it's
just one of those songs that
brings back memories.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, and it wasn't
that old back then, Well, no no.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
But, thinking about
it now, but it's one of those
songs that I don't know passedthe test of time.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I like it.
That's what it jogged thememory of that.
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Let's give a little
test here, a little taste.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Roll in the string
with the note.
Test here A little taste.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
This is a good song,
yeah, you know.
Just listen to it now how manytimes he saw her.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
What is he stalking?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
her Might be.
You know, everybody's got theirown interpretation.
Yeah well, anyways, moving on.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
If I'm noisy, knock
three times on the ceiling.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
If I'm noisy, Good
tune, good tune.
We got a couple other ones here.
How about Mr Bojangles?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Oh yeah, Nitty Gritty
Dirt Band was one of my
favorites.
That's a good song.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Same thing again.
Just remember with my youthlistening to it.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Well with the sisters
and brothers that I had Right.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Obviously all older.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
All older than I was,
but, man, they played this
album and I know almost all thesongs on this particular album
from them okay so yeah, itbrings back a lot of goody dirt
is back in the era of when Ifirst attempted herbal essence,
(33:25):
if you know what I'm saying.
Oh, okay, yeah, that's kind ofthe air isn't that a shampoo?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
it wasn't thin.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
It is shampoo, it
wasn't thin.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It is now, but it
wasn't thin, good music, good
music.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Tom, yes, I love that
, brings back the good memories.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
They sound old to
some people and it sounds old to
me, but it still stands thetest of time again.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Heck yeah, who
doesn't like a little bit of Mr
Bojangles, exactly, and his dog?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Absolutely right.
I mean there's many more songsfrom 71.
I mean there's all kinds yeah,71.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
I mean we could go
into.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
But we're only
breaking down some that Tom and
I remember and kind of have fondmemories over.
Right, I mean again 71.
I was too young then, againeight years old, so I probably.
But hearing the songs does jogmemories.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Right, jog memories
right and we're hoping, and
we're hoping these songs jogmemories for you so you can go
to the empty alt pod dot com, mt.
Alt pod dot com.
You can put your two cents inthere.
Let us know what these songsmean to you absolutely all right
, tom.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
How about this one?
Do you remember this song?
Here we go, tom.
Do you about this one?
Do you remember this song?
Here we go, tom.
Do you remember this one?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
This is the very
first poem I ever wrote to a
girl.
You went off of this record.
I wrote this on a note to agirl you plagiarized.
Yes, I didn't know it wasplagiarizing back then, but it
sounded awesome to write to agirl and she accepted my invite
(35:15):
to go to the movies because ofthis, my first date.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
See back, then nobody
could look up her name?
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Her name was Debbie
oh.
Debbie, debbie Hatfield.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Debbie Hatfield.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah, she didn't know
the McCoys.
Oh, okay, I was just going toask that question.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
She didn't know the
McCoys.
Oh, okay, I was just going toask that question.
She didn't know the McCoys.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Thank you, thank you,
but if I could paint her.
See, I remember this when Istarted in my dating years Ah,
yeah, yeah.
So I was an eight then 13 to15?
.
Yeah, right around 14 years old.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Somewhere there Was
it like you were dating like
real people, or still your tubesocks.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
My tube socks.
You've got to pretend You'vegot to have a good imagination.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
And then there was
during, because you had both
girls and tube socks.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
No, no, no, I
graduated and stayed that way.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Oh, so you didn't
like transition.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
No tube socks were
done and I went right on to the
real deal, so you had a goodgirlfriend.
Yeah, I guess Girlfriends yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Well, if a picture
paints a thousand words there's
a story right there, you maythink oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Let's see oh, I have
another one that I really like I
can't wait.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I cannot wait.
Oh little Cherokee people.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Indian Reservation.
Yeah, paul Revere and the RedRaiders.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, I remember them
.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Not the Blue Raiders,
oh, not them, no Red Raiders.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Oh, red Raiders.
Yeah, I remember Red Raidersyeah.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I remember the
Salvation I can be honest During
when I started experimentingwith different things.
You know, smoking and stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Oh those and this
song rocked to me.
Sure it did, being 13, 14.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, sure it did
Well, because the Cherokee
people sat around in that circlewith the peace pipe.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Right with the peace
pipe.
Exactly that's what I wastrying to emulate.
Yes, I giggled a lot.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Emulate imitate.
It doesn't really matter, Does?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
it matter?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Nope, nope, not at
all.
You just put a little bit inthat bowl and we can imitate,
eliminate and every kind of ate,and afterwards we'll eat, we'll
have munchies, we will.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I don't know what
just happened there.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Cherokee people.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
No, something popped
up.
No, no, not that.
Sorry On my phone.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I was going to say
yeah, yeah, you're taking those
again.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Not yet that sorry,
okay, on my phone I was gonna
say oh yeah, yeah, you're takingthose again not yet good song
awesome, really good song thereyou go, it does jog memories.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Yeah, sure it does.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I didn't say memories
, I said memories.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, it jogged a
couple memories too, because I
remember this Cherokee Squaw onetime.
No, no, no, we're not going totalk about that Cherokee Squaw.
Yeah, she had some memories,but anyway, Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I'm just peeking
through here, bear with me,
you're peeking, not yet.
I peeked a while ago, tom, youpeeked.
Yeah, I peeked a while ago,you've got a friend.
You've got a friend, all right,bear with me, I keep babbling,
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
You said bear, I said
something funny.
You know what's really funnyabout people who say bear with
me.
What's funny?
They don't even have a bearwith them at all.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Where's your bear?
You're looking too much intothat.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Well bear with me.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
No, it ain't there's
no bear with you at all.
All right again, buddy, you'relooking too much into it no, no,
there's no bears I really okay,all right, I don't see one okay
.
No, okay, it's just a saying,but anyways, different kind of
bear too, buddy, yeah, spelleddifferently so it was a polar
(39:30):
bear, but they spell it no, nono, okay, so how'd you like the
segment?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
I love the music
segment 71 good music.
Great music in 71 Kind of makesme excited 72, buddy, 72.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Looking forward to it
.
Should be awesome, should beNow.
We still haven't picked out oursongs yet.
Nope, nope not yet.
We'll be doing that, we'll goprobably top 20, but we'll
narrow it down to what we'regoing to play, but we'll still
hey.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
This would be a
perfect time for all you
listeners to get on the websiteand tell us what you want to
hear, absolutely.
I mean, we have suggestions andwe have our favorites, but
y'all are part of this too.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
You spend an hour
with us every couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Put your two cents in
, help us.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Tell us what you want
to hear, especially on this
music journey that we're goingon now.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Because if you don't
tell us what you want to hear,
we're going to just ramble.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
We do a lot of that
too.
We're pretty good at that, yeah.
But yeah, people, let us knowwhat you want to hear.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Now don't send us a
squeak freaking list of music.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
No, no, we don't want
to squeak any squeak I've seen
some of his songs coming boy, ohboy, oh boy.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
I mean, you know I
like kung fu fighting, but come
on, squeak yeah you haven't seenhis this, this, this, oh boy,
oh boy.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Looking forward to it
.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Not really.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah, but again,
folks, you can find us on.
Go to our website, mtalpodcom.
Yes, there's a littlemicrophone on the bottom
right-hand corner.
You can leave voicemails onthat.
We don't know who you are,unless you tell us, unless you
tell us.
All right, try to be gentle.
(41:21):
We're on iHeart Amazon Spotify.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Deezer Dreamcast.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Nope, nope, nope,
nope, nope.
It's not Dreamcast.
It's not Dreamcast.
Why are nope, nope?
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Nope, nope, it's not
Dreamcast.
It's not Dreamcast.
Why are we forgetting that one?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It's so freaking
awesome.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
It's the best one,
deep Cast FM.
Yes, because that's the onethat the description said again,
if you read the description,it's like perfect.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
You could almost say
yourself and we're on.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Buzzsprout and
Buzzsprout.
Shout out to Buzzsprout,because that's who got us up
here.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Yes, buzzsprout was
the springboard.
They're still helping us outgreat Yep.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
The descriptions are
getting better on Buzzsprout.
Thank you, buzzsprout.
Yes, shout out to Buzzsprout.
There was my only one complaint, but as far as everything else
it works great.
But again, folks, we're on allthe different platforms.
Again, our website, mtalpodcom.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
If you truly want to
listen to us, you can find us.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah, you'll find us
MT Alternative Podcast.
We're out there.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
So all right, Tom,
until next time.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yep, we always want
to thank God for the gift of gab
.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
All right, everyone.
God bless and take care.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Later.
And that's all the chaos we'vegot for you this week on the MT
Alternative Podcast.
If you made it this far withoutsmashing your phone or
questioning your life choices,congrats.
You're our kind of people,don't forget.
You can listen to thisbeautiful disaster on
iHeartRadio, amazon Music,spotify, deezer and DeepCastFM
(42:53):
which I'm 90% sure isn't just aguy in his basement with a
microphone and a dream.
And, of course, if you likeyour podcasts like your coffee,
unfiltered and slightly bitteryou can always find us at our
humble digital home, mtalpodcom.
Next week, mike and Tom diveinto the music of 1972, a year
(43:18):
when bell-bottoms were alifestyle choice and nobody knew
what gluten was.
Will they stay on topic?
Absolutely not.
Will it be entertaining?
Probably.
Will it involve an unnecessaryrant about something vaguely
related?
Probably Will it involve anunnecessary rant about something
vaguely related.
Definitely.
Until then, I've been Daniel,your ever-tolerant presenter,
(43:39):
reminding you to lower yourexpectations.
It only gets weirder from here.
Goodbye.