July 1, 2024 • 66 mins
What significance does Eddie Murphy's role in "Beverly Hills Cop" hold for the black community in the 1980s? Join our engaging conversation as we unpack the powerful historical context of Los Angeles, highlighting the racial barriers Murphy shattered. We explore his rise from the comedy stages of "Saturday Night Live" to the unforgettable moments in "Delirious," and how his groundbreaking work resonated with audiences nationwide during a volatile era for black communities.
John Fudge Rickenbacker joins the episode to celebrate Eddie Murphy's transformative influence on the film industry. We share insights from a recent Murphy interview that mirrors our discussion on his genre-defining roles in action-comedy and romantic-comedy films. Together, we reminisce about the iconic fish-out-of-water trope in "Beverly Hills Cop," discuss the excitement for the upcoming sequel, and reflect on Murphy's enduring legacy in Hollywood.
From Murphy's unexpected rise to fame to his bold and unrestricted humor, we traverse the highs and lows of his illustrious career. We analyze the evolution of the "Beverly Hills Cop" series, touching on the shifts in tone and style across its sequels. Our conversation dives deep into Murphy's transition from comedy to drama, his lasting impact on modern cinema, and the challenges of maintaining success in Hollywood. Tune in for a mix of nostalgia, celebration, and keen insights into one of the most influential figures in entertainment.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
shout out to rob ziegler yeah, so even the people
, the black people with money,didn't live in beverly hills.
They lived in um dare heights,windsor hills or baldwin hills
black beverly hills.
Yeah, right right.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
They lived over here because they knew we weren't
welcome over there that's crazy,because I said I don't know the
history of what it was when Iwatched Billy Hill's Cop.
All I think about is what theother side looks like at that
time.
So what could be that it was a?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
cool movie, but I mean it was a good movie.
My era there that's like one ofthe first movies I've seen,
action comedy with a black malelead, like you know the 70s,
with Richard Roundtree and JimBrown or whatever.
(00:58):
You know, that was the 70sblack exploitation era.
That was before my era.
You know what I mean thoselow-budget movies probably only
shown in before my era.
You know I mean those lowbudget movies probably only
shown in the black.
You know neighborhoods, blackmovie theaters.
Beverly hills cop was, you know, a major production shown
everywhere with the black malelead.
You know, so it was.
(01:20):
It was a significant movie forme, for my generation, I think
you know.
But I think the first time Iseen Beverly Hills Cop might
have been maybe two, three yearsafter its release date.
I'm going to really age myselfon a select TV, selecting like
on TV.
I know exactly what you'retalking about.
(01:46):
So it was released there on HBO.
When I seen it, you know, likeI said, I was 10, 11 years old
in 84, so my parents wouldn'ttake me to the movies to see
Beverly Hills Cop.
You know Eddie Murphy was.
You know he was a reincarnationof Richard Pryor.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He wouldn't take me to see his movies.
You know what I mean.
You know what's funny.
I have a friend that's aroundthe same age as you and he told
me his parents took him to see48 Hours in the movie theater.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right, yeah, I've seen that.
My cousin and his mom took meto see that, but my parents
wasn't going to.
Even then it was like, yeah,take me to the movie, but they
never told them what movie theywould take me to see.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That's funny.
Now, what was like your firstintroduction to Eddie Murphy?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Actually it was on Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know that was like, you know, staying up late.
I'm spending night at one of myfriend's house and I'm sleeping
over, you know we stay up latewith the TV down low because it
came on at, you know, 11.30, 11o'clock at night, you know.
So we had to sneak and watchthat with Velvet Jones.
And you know Buckwheat, mrRobinson's Neighborhood, you
(02:57):
know.
So that was my firstintroduction to Eddie Murphy.
We would go back to school,like I said, at 84.
I'm in the sixth grade, so inLos Angeles at that point, sixth
grade, you're still inelementary school.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You didn't make the switch over to middle school to
seventh grade.
It was seventh, eighth gradeand ninth grade was middle
school.
In Los Angeles in those areasHigh school was 10th, 11th and
12th grade.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So that was my first taste with them, and then later
again maybe that same with,maybe the year before, 83, 84,
I'm not sure which, but againover my friends.
I was down the street watchingDelirious, like the funniest
thing I had ever seen.
You know what I'm saying.
(03:43):
Ever heard, Did he?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
have cable.
Did he have cable?
He had the tape.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He had the funniest thing I had ever seen, you know,
did he have cable?
Did he have cable he?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
had the tape.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He had the tape.
He had the Select Okay, the.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Select TV Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So it was on HBO, like you know.
Back then it was, I guess,technically cable, but again it
only had a few channels.
You know what I mean.
It wasn't like nowadays, butyeah, just staying up, sneaking
in, you know, and his, his olderbrother, you know, letting us
watch that and we going back toschool, you know, telling jokes,
(04:11):
pull over, pull over, notknowing what that.
You know what I mean oh man,that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Now, when, after beverly hills cop came out and
after eddie murphy hit the scene, what was the effect?
Did you see a lot of peoplegravitating toward him?
Because I know there wasn't alot of famous people in the 80s.
There was three famous blackpeople in the 80s.
That was Michael Jackson, eddieMurphy and Prince.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Right, right, yeah.
Well, you gotta remember.
In LA in 84, it was the firstfew years of the crack era Gang
banging was full fledged, fullthrottle, like gang banging in
LA, like they were stilltripping on colors.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You know cripping.
A guy with a red shirt on or ared belt or a red Nike stripe on
his shoes they fled him Blood.
See same thing, guy with a blueshirt on or a blue hat or blue
Nike stripe they fled him.
You know.
So Darryl Gates was still thechief of police for the LAPD
(05:22):
there.
And you remember, in 84, theOlympics came to Los Angeles
Right.
So they were you know massincarceration going around
arresting everybody they couldto so-called clean up the
streets because the world wascoming to LA for the Olympics.
When they introduced the battleround, they, you know tank,
(05:44):
with a you know ramming deviceon the front, instead of
shooting you know missiles, orthey had a big you know banner,
so they were ramming in front ofthe houses so-called crack
houses or gang you know housesand just arrested everybody.
So it was, it was a wild timein LA.
People in LA was, yeah, welistened to Michael Jackson,
(06:05):
prince, and yeah, you know,watching Delirious, but it was a
whole lot of other stuff goingon that they weren't really you
know what I mean concerned about.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now Eddie Murphy being in that red leather suit.
How was he welcomed in yourneighborhood?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, like he didn't come where I live, I know he
didn't.
Eddie Murphy was a superstar,he said.
You know, when he came to LA hewas in Hollywood now I gotta
ask you cause.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
A lot of times on this podcast we ask this one
serious question what are yourtop 5 Eddie Murphy movies?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
top 5 Eddie Murphy movies.
Alright, wow, top five EddieMurphy movies.
Yeah, alright, um wow, harlemNights boomerang okay and even
with boomerang, like my mostmemorable moment in boomerang is
with uh Pop.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It wasn't even Eddie Murphy, you know right like Pop,
he, he, he, he, he, he, he hehe, he, he, he, he ring is with
Pop.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It wasn't even Eddie Murphy Pop.
He sold every scene he was inin that movie Trading Places, of
course, I don't care who youare, that's on every list for
Eddie Murphy.
I got two more, I don't know.
Life, of course, ooh, life.
(07:30):
Okay, one of the funniestmovies I've ever seen with them,
him and Martin, they just theirchemistry, they're just feeding
off each other Like best comedyduos I can just recollect.
(07:50):
And of course, the first comingto America.
There you go.
That'll be my top five.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know you're leaving some stuff out by making
that your top five.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I know 48 hours.
Of course everybody was cold.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I like doing this because you know every time you
make a list, you're alwaysleaving something out.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's like you know the Mount Rushmore,
you know question.
No matter what genre you posethat question, it's only four
spots, All right.
Well, thank you for doing this.
It was a pleasure.
It's only four spots.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Alright.
Well, thank you for doing this.
It was a pleasure.
I'm gonna put this out,probably sometime next month
when I do my Beverly Hills Copepisode, and I'll have you at
the top of the episode talkingabout what the culture and
climate was like around the timethe movie came out alright,
cool, cool yeah, no problem,anytime man listen, if you wanna
talk comedy whatever?
just let me know I the moviecame out All right cool.
(08:53):
All right Cool.
Yeah, no, this was fun, noproblem.
Anytime, man, listen.
If you want to talk comedywhatever, just let me know, I'll
get you back on.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
We can talk about whatever.
All right, for sure Soundsgreat.
I appreciate it, nigel.
All right thank you.
All right later.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Later.
We've been waiting for a long,long time.
Good morning, my neighbor.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Jesus Christ.
This is becoming veryirritating.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of
the Murphy Monday podcast, theonly podcast that celebrates the
life and career of Eddie Murphy.
I'm your host, nigel AFullerton.
This week we wanted to do aspecial Beverly Hills Cop
episode.
However, with the new BeverlyHills Cop movie coming out this
(09:54):
week, we wanted to do somethingdifferent.
We wanted to do a compare andcontrast episode between Beverly
Hills Cop the original movieand Beverly Hills Cop 4.
In this episode we talk aboutthe pilot for Beverly Hills Cop.
We talk about Beverly Hills Cop2, beverly Hills Cop 3.
(10:17):
And what we predict BeverlyHills Cop 4 is going to be With
me this week is my good friend,john Fudge Rickenbacker.
You've heard him on the podcastseveral times.
He's the unofficial, officialco-host of this podcast.
It's funny.
(10:38):
We recorded this episode lastweek.
Shortly after that, a interviewwith Eddie Murphy, a new
interview with Eddie Murphy popsout and it's damn near
everything that we had just said, like from the impressions of
sliced alone to the wholeGhostbusters thing, to Eddie
(11:02):
Murphy being the firstinternational black superstar.
So this is a great episode.
If you haven't already, pleaselike, share and subscribe.
Tell an Eddie Murphy fan totell an Eddie Murphy fan that
you love this podcast and, withall hearts and minds clear,
let's start this show.
(11:23):
You've heard him from the lifeepisode.
You've heard him from BeverlyHills Cop 3 episode.
Ladies and gentlemen, pleasegive a round of applause for
John Fudge Rickenbacker yes, Iwas also in the what's Going
(11:54):
Down episode.
My audience is not going to fallfor a banana on the tailpipe on
this one.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You're not going to fall for a banana on the
tailpipe.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
We wanted to do a special episode.
I have that Donebelle Hills Copcop episode.
I will do that very soon.
Right now, on the eve ofbasically what's happening with
the new bethlehem's cop movie,axel f, we're trying to get
compare and contrast and whatour predictions are for what's
going to happen with this movie.
(12:26):
Um, you know, everybody knowsthat bethlehem's cop from IMDb
says that after the murder ofhis childhood friend, the slick
Detroit detective Axel Foleyheads to sunny Beverly Hills on
a one-man mission to ferret outthe killer and bring him to
justice.
Before long, axel and hisunorthodox methods unearthed the
(12:48):
lucrative drug operation of thepowerful local crime kingpin,
victor maitland.
However, foley too will findhimself in deep trouble as
lieutenant andrew bogermil wantshim out of town now.
Axel will have to team up withdetectives john taggett and
billy rosewood to shed light onthe thick conspiracy and finish
(13:13):
what he has started.
Will Foley's total disregardfor proper procedure bear fruit?
We'll find out.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
He's parody.
I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, it's AI.
Ai can make anything lookbetter.
So whatever the person did onIMDb for that one, there we go.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, I mean, that's not like I would watch it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I mean, this is probably one of the first action
comedies.
I think this is like a definingmovie for that.
I don't think there was anaction comedy before.
That was there defining moviefor that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I don't think there was an action comedy before that
was there, not to my knowledge.
I feel like eddie murphy wasthe first of a lot of genres
that he doesn't get a lot ofcredit for.
I think we talked about inprevious episodes or you
definitely brought it up abouthim actually inventing rom-coms,
in a sense like yeah, I meanfor black people.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I don't know if there was.
Yeah, I don't know if there was, a rom-com probably.
Let's say harry met sally.
Let's say, um, I can't think ofany more off the top of my head
, but joe versus the volcano, Iguess that was a a rom-com, tom
hanks, you know it was tom hanksand meg ryan as well, so that's
why I said that, but it's.
(14:33):
There are a lot ofgenre-defining things, and I
think this is one of hisbreakout starring roles.
Axel Foley, this is the onethat everybody was like okay,
we've seen 48 Hours, we've seenyou in Trading Places.
Now let's see what you can doin a movie on your own where you
are the star.
Yeah, in a movie on your ownwhere you are the star.
Yeah, you know, I don't thinkthere's anybody else in this
(14:54):
that's known, besides judgeReinhold.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, and he was older by that time, cause he was
like a child actor.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I think, I think I'm not sure.
Like I know, I know him fromfast times of Ridgemont high.
Yeah, but that's like a highschool movie, yeah, but that was
only like I want to say 80, 81,true, and then you have this
movie in 84.
So he's kind of known, kind ofnot known, but he's known in
(15:25):
this movie as the young kid yeah, yeah man, this was dope, a
dope film man cause just Youngkid.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, yeah man, this was a dope film man because just
I guess for that time this waslike very groundbreaking seeing
like a black lead and likepretty much almost like a black
dude in a white world, almost.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It definitely was.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, it wasn't predicated on his black.
I mean, it had some racialthings in it, but not too much.
Like he was just a guy Likethis old wisecracking dude, like
it was believable, like he canget through certain things.
It wasn't like he was just likethis hood dude, even though he
came from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He was just like this guy, who was very confident and
sure of itself and just wasfearless in a sense.
Well, it was a fish out ofwater story, which we love.
Um, back then in the 80s therewas no internet, so you didn't
know what happened in detroitversus what would happen in
beverly hills.
So like for him.
It's definitely culture shock,like for him, to see people
dressed up like michael jacksonon the street, like that's not
heard of.
You know, to get a cappuccino,uh, with the lemon twist at an
(16:36):
art gallery Like like.
It's not, like these arecharacters and the people in
Beverly Hills are people that hewould never associate with.
So you're taking him out of hiselement.
That's what makes the moviefunny.
You know, um, it's differentnow when you try to do fish out
of his element.
That's what makes the moviefunny.
You know, um, it's differentnow when you try to do fish out
of water stories, because thereisn't.
The water is only two feet deepnow.
(16:57):
So it's easy to find out aboutsomebody's culture, about where
somebody lives, just by googlingit you know, rather than yeah,
in in 1984.
You didn't have that.
You didn't.
You didn't have that.
You didn't have.
Like I used to talk to like alot of older dudes who were
around the time when the moviecame out and how LA and Beverly
(17:19):
Hills was back then, and it'slike it's night and day as well
for them.
So you have the Beverly Hillsaspect of it, but then you have
the gang aspect of L yeah, soit's.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It's very gang oriented in that movie.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It wasn't because you're in beverly hills.
This is not the lapd, this isthe beverly hills police
department.
So in california they havedifferent police departments of
the town.
So like there's Compton PD,there's um, there's the LA PD
and there's like Beverly HillsPD and a lot of the different
(18:00):
towns have their own policedepartments.
You know, I don't know if itstill works on precincts or well
, but I do know that at therewas a time when a specific town
had their own police department.
So for Eddie Murphy, as aDetroit police officer, you know
, coming from Detroit, living inDetroit, going on his street
(18:21):
sense and his knowledge, youknow, trying to do the neutron
dance in Detroit, meets up withhis old friend, get his friend,
gets shot and then he's likeokay, I have to find out what's
going on in Beverly Hills, tofind out what's going on with
his murder, and in that he runsinto a world of people, a
(18:42):
different world that he's neverseen before, and runs against
stuff Like he gets thrown out ofa window.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
On your, on your a window, yeah, on your first day.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, I wouldn't even begin to.
I would have to go home afterthat.
I couldn't get out.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
He just walked in and threw me out the window.
I drove all the way here justto get thrown out a window.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Does he have to pay for that window?
I think they said that he hadto pay for that window, like
they just broke, they made him.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think they said that he had to pay for the
window that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
They threw him out the window.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
He gotta pay for it now, what are your favorite
moments of?
Of beverly hills, cop uh, the1984 movie?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
um well, first off, I like the fact that, um, this is
a, this is.
I think Eddie Murphy kind ofshowed all his skills and like
almost like a foreshadow to whathe was going to do character
wise in his movies.
After that he did a lot of stuffsimilar to Bowfinger, where
he's the same guy but he's doingdifferent characters within it,
(19:48):
just to like almost like he's amaster of disguise wearing the
exact same thing right right um,one of my favorite parts is, um
, just how he maneuvers throughcertain conversations, how he
gets people to believe that he'sa cop um from beverly hills, or
that he's a foreman, or like,for instance, like damon wayne's
part, which is like that's thetop one that sticks out to me.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's so short of a scene um, but it's so weird of a
scene too, right yeah, it'slike it doesn't fit, but it does
I need a couple of bananas.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
How much of it?
Well, the buffet plate is 12.50.
You get peaches, plums, orangesand bananas.
All I need is a couple bananas.
All I need is a couple ofbananas.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Go ahead and take those bananas it does, because
then he uses that again later onwith Victor Maitland, and I
don't know if that was acorrelation, I don't even know,
did that?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
scene come beforehand .
You know what I think it came.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
After, because he got the bananas first when they
were following him.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Right, it was after, but again a big trope what they
used to do, which a lot.
I'm sorry for them now, but alot of comedians used to do a
more effeminate voice to makefun of the LGBTQ community, the.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
LGBTQ.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
See, but I got it right.
I got it right yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You did it.
Let's get a bit of ticket.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
But I have to talk to Victor.
It's very, very important.
Are you sure it's VictorMaitland you want?
Oh yes, Victor Maitland, thegray-haired gentleman, very dark
skin, Capricorn Victor.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Well, why don't you give me the message and I'll
take it?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
to him.
Okay, I guess I can do that.
Tell Victor that Ramon, thefellow he met about a week ago,
tell him that Ramon went to theclinic today and I found out
that I have herpes simplex 10.
And I think Victor should gocheck himself out with his
physician to make sureeverything is fine before things
start falling off on the manperhaps you better tell him that
(21:58):
you know.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I think that would be best but yeah, cuz I just
watched the whole documentary oncall outstanding in comedy and
it's it's about LGBTQ and pluscomedians who like what they had
to go through and the things.
And one of the people theymentioned is eddie murphy and
they talk about how his you knowhe's known notoriously in his
(22:23):
comedy special for making fun ofgay people specifically so you
know it was a trope.
It was a thing that they weredoing.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Now that's something that they couldn't do anymore,
but back then they did that forlaughs yeah, me personally,
looking back at it, because Iknow a lot of stuff didn't uh
right date well, like, like fromhis stand-up movies.
But that specific scene didn'tnecessarily um well for me.
(22:52):
But I mean, obviously I'mheterosexual, but just in case
you didn't know, uh, but at thesame time, like I don't feel
like it was, I felt like it was.
It proved the point, you know,because they had to make the
situation uncomfortable, um, forvictim aytman to you know, to
come out so that they can getthem outside, or what have you.
I mean I liked it and I didn'tfeel like it was negative.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Like I never.
I mean, I don't feel that it'snegative, but I can understand
if somebody's offended by it.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Of course.
Yeah, I mean I could beoffended by Glory, but you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now Glory has some funny moments in Glory.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Now I cannot say Lord , my Lord, like it has Get your
hands off me, nigga.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I ain't no, nigga's half.
I ain't no, nigga's half.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Morgan Freeman was 54 when he grew up.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Oh my God, and he looks so old now, oh my gosh, he
just looks so old now.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Oh my gosh, he just grew into his age.
He's under 54.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's funny because Eddie Murphy, on his press tour
for Axl F, has been saying donot give me any roles that you
would not give to Morgan Freeman.
He's like, please.
He's like, I'm 63 years old, donot give me any roles that you
wouldn't give to Morgan Freeman.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
That's what I want.
That is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Because, again, this man, when he does Beverly Hills
Cop, he is 21 years old SheeshIn a movie, in a movie and this
is what's even dope about thismovie In a movie that he wasn't
even supposed to be in.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, it was for Sylvester Stallone Right.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Imagine that and they never changed.
They never changed anythingfrom the movie, which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You're not going to fall for the banana chip.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You're not going to fall for the bananapipe.
Yeah, you know you're goingfour foot banana in the tailpipe
.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Imagine the victim.
Imagine that scene with DamonWayans.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Nothing like Axel Foley.
I'm going to put a banana inyour tailpipe.
It would have been menacing, itwould have been mean when he
was like you're going to followme, I'm going to put a banana in
your tailpipe.
No funniness, phil.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Hey, come on.
Phil baby, give him a kiss.
Hey, come on.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Phil, baby give him a kiss, hey Phil, hey, yo, hey yo
, hey yo Phil.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But it's wild to know that, to know that that movie
was supposed to be number one,more graphic as the movies were
of the time and two supposed tostart with the star of Stop of
my Mom Will Shoot.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, rambo, that's Rambo.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I know it's Rambo, but I didn't want to just go to
Rambo.
I could have said Rocky, Icould have said any other movie
but Rambo.
You know you have Rambo playingthe Beverly Hills cop, which
wouldn't work, and that's why,to get somebody who is known for
humor more than action films,it actually worked.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
You know, and it sparked a whole list of movies
that are Beverly Hills, copclones, movies like Rush Hour or
Even Money Talks.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Big Mama's House 7.
No, bad Boys, bad Boys.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But yeah, big Mama's House has it also where he's
going under cover.
But again, it's an actionquote-unquote action comedy.
An action quote-unquote actioncomedy.
You know, bad boysquote-unquote action comedy.
This, this stuff did not work,like it wasn't a thing.
We didn't have hyphenatedmovies.
It's kind of like my argumentwith the movie ghostbusters.
(27:05):
You know, ghostbusters isconsidered a comedy, but it's
not a comedy.
It's more of a hybrid of of atype of film that you know.
We don't call the the guardiansof the galaxy action movies.
We don't call the marvel moviesaction movies.
They're movies with humor.
We don't call them comedies.
(27:25):
We don't really call themaction movies.
What do we call them?
marvel you know what I'm saying.
Like what?
What's the genre?
That's what I'm saying likewhat's the john like?
If it's the ant-man movie, youknow it's about to be funny.
Do you call it a comedy?
You can't, you can't categorizeit as a comedy.
So what do you call it?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
well, action comedy, which, right, I mean, that's
what I would think, because it'snot suspenseful.
Yeah, it's not suspenseful, butthat's that's what I would
think because it's notsuspenseful.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, it's not suspenseful, but that's that's
what I'm saying.
Like, all they had back thenwas suspense, thriller, comedy,
drama yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
Oh, horror, that's it.
Yeah, and that's normally.
The horror is in suspense andthriller and stuff like that,
but that's all they had.
They didn't have anything else.
So for them to come out of thebox with a person who has only
(28:14):
did a handful of films, likeEddie Murphy did not do
Ghostbusters, to do BeverlyHills, cop yeah, yeah, he didn't
even do Ghostbusters.
No, no, he didn't.
He was supposed to be WinstonZegmore.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He was supposed to be .
You were ever Axl.
You were that close to being aGhostbuster.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
And I would love to know how far you got in the
process of figuring out who yourGhostbuster was going to be
before Axl came along.
It was really simple.
I was going to do Ghostbusters,but Beverly Hills Cop was a
leading role and Ghostbusterswas like an ensemble thing and I
was one of the guys.
So we went with Beverly HillsCop and I had never done you
know, I had never been the leadguy Right?
(28:59):
Well, I think you made theright choice.
Well yeah, because Ghostbustersis a really classic.
I would love at best I wouldlove to have been in both of
them.
They're still making them, man.
Yeah, but back then that wouldhave been cool.
Ghostbusters and Beverly HillsCop they would have shot a
rocket off of my yard, thatwould have been crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, that's a whole other thing can of beans, but
that's the.
Thing but back to back tobeverly hills cop.
It's.
It's a, it's a great film thatwe all love.
Now, with the sequels thatwe've had, we have beverly hills
, cop 2, uh, which was decent,but it was more action heavy
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than it was with comedy.
Beverly hills, cop 3 they triedto make it more comedy than
they tried to do action, whichkind of felt lackluster, like I
always say.
With Beverly Hills, cop 3, it'sJohn Landis' film.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I feel like they were trying to make it more family
friendly.
I think, with the whole idea ofit being an amusement park, like
we, only even us like we werecause, like even us, like we
were younger when we saw it,when it came out, and us working
at an amusement park, we had wekind of had we liked it a
little more.
I mean actually, honestly, outof the three besides, one, like
(30:21):
if I had to pick like three issecond, I actually liked three
Only because of the reasons likethe okie dokie shuffle I was
actually having thisconversation okie shuffle and um
, just uh, working at amusementpark.
Obviously we know like the insand outs like stuff, but we
always follow like behind thescenes stuff going on in
adventureland and stuff likethat, so follow our story.
(30:44):
But, um, yeah, I actually likeum wonder world and I thought it
was pretty cool to see likesomething like disney world on
the fritz and the uh annihilator2000 like it's so much other
stuff like it's, even thoughthey went comedy heavy and a
little bit more like slapsticky.
And the third one actuallyactually liked it.
It was a change of pace and Ifelt like out of the three and
(31:06):
he was older than two, so likeone and I actually liked it.
It was a change of pace.
I felt like out of the threeand he was older than two, so
one and three, I liked the mostout of them.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I don't hate Beverly Hills Cop 3.
I don't I actually do like themovie.
I will watch the movie, but Ialso know the limitations of the
movie.
It's not the best movie, you'reright, it's not the best movie,
but there are certain thingsthat make you laugh in that
movie that you're like okay, Ilike this movie.
It's not a Beverly Hills Copmovie, though.
(31:33):
That's the thing, especiallycoming off of Beverly Hills Cop
2, which was more.
You could tell they had abigger budget than Beverly Hills
Cop 2.
It was more like Miami Vicethan it was anything else.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I would definitely go back and
watch all of them in succession,but yeah, because a lot of the
one and two kind of bleed intoeach other especially like the
storyline.
But yeah, I mean I guess it'sall error too, because it's all,
I guess, preference, because ifyou're known like, if you
follow Eddie Murphy more for hisfunnier stuff, especially back,
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then you would like three morethan two maybe if you like to
see him rank.
A lot of people didn't like tosee him too serious, which was
kind of hard for him too, I'msure.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, yeah, it's a double-edged sword.
What happens with comedicactors?
Whereas in the beginning ofyour career all they want from
you is funny, but toward the endof your career, all they want
from you is drama.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You know, it's like if you look at a person like Jim
Carrey, whereas Jim Carrey wasa person that we only went to
for comedy, then he startedgoing left and started doing the
Truman Show, and he starteddoing man on the Moon and like
23.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, he did.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
But he was experimenting.
Because, again, if you're stuckin a lane where it's just
comedy, for us as a viewingaudience, we find comedy to be
dated sometimes and what happens?
When we watch these movieswe're like, okay, well, that's a
little old, that's a littlechildish, that's this, that,
wherever your preference is nowas an adult versus when you were
(33:14):
a kid, you're like, oh, how canthey just have, like Boga mills
daughter just come out ofnowhere.
She wasn't in the first movie.
You know we harp on things thatdon't make sense and we don't
shouldn't really care about.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, there's 10 facts and theories we shouldn't
care about.
Care about the storyline Storyas long as they don't change
Bronson Pinchot, that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
And this Beverly Hills Cop, axl F.
I mean this movie is like 20years in the making, maybe even
30 years in the making, to behonest with you, because they've
been trying to do a BenLittle's Cop sequel for so long.
It's funny when we talk aboutEddie Murphy, we get mad about
the sequels that he makes, buteverybody's always asking for a
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sequel.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, and not only that even though we asked for it
.
I feel like he he delivered.
I feel like it's hard to kindof create lightning in a bottle
twice, especially during thattime period, because there's a
lot of stuff that you can't do.
Some of the reasons why we likeeddie murphy is because he said
whatever he wanted and weaccepted it.
(34:25):
And like we didn't like to me,like in my household, like when
my family, when I was growing up, like we looked at any Mercury
was like he was our like howpeople would see a Tom Cruise or
um, um, how people see WillSmith now or um, or the slap and
um.
You know Tom Hanks because hedid so many different movies and
(34:48):
you he always showed you didn'treally, you didn't really think
about race too much in hismovies.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
You didn't.
He was, yeah, he was somebodywho didn't have, who wasn't.
He was kind of like raceless.
I had this conversation with mywife a couple of times where
and about a black celebrity inthe eighties, whereas if you
think about black celebritieswho were not, uh, let's say,
(35:18):
quote unquote singers, you onlyhad a handful of actors that,
like, were quote unquote sexsymbol celebrities.
You know, know, I'm sayingespecially like eddie murphy's
at the top of that food chain.
Maybe you have him and maybeyou have oj simpson and that gap
was was extreme.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
That's a wide gap that's a wide gap.
Philip michael thomas but likehonestly though, when you really
think about it.
That's so crazy because it'salmost like he was in a in lack
of a better term like theMichael Jackson of like yeah,
(35:58):
Because of the fact that he waskind of poppy in the sense that
he was universal Cause, likethey wouldn't give him those
type of paramount deals If hewere, if he wasn't like a guy
that generated money and like soobviously it wasn't just black
people going to see him, it waseverybody going to see him.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
And let's be honest, if you look at the movies and
I've said this several times ifyou look at the movies in the
80s that were predominantlyblack, let's just say that in
general that had black leads.
I'll say that instead of whatI'm saying.
If you look at the movies thathad black leads in the 80s,
there were not that many.
We were just we're off theheels of the black exploitation
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era in the 70s.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
So when you get to the 80s, they believe hollywood
believes that black people can'tlead films before beverly
Beverly Hills Cop, there hadnever been a movie that would
star a black man, a black person, that was successful all around
the world.
And even still to this day,when black folks we make movies,
most of the time they work inthe States and outside of the
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country they don't work.
But Beverly Hills Cop and NuttyProfessor, I had movies that
have worked all the way aroundthe world.
Coming to america.
You know what beverly hills copstarted it.
It started that the whole.
You know all around the world.
That's where you get, that'swhere you get uh will and uh the
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rock.
They do it now, but beverBeverly Hills Cop is the first
one that did it and this is whyI said that with Eddie Murphy,
because he's number one,colorless Number two.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
He came through Saturday Night Live who was, you
know, kind of in.
They kind of were like at apoint where they were not great
again.
You know what I'm saying.
Like everybody from theoriginal cast left, you know.
Here you have this young kidwho is making fun of race, sex,
um, classism, racism, likeanything you, anything you can
(37:55):
think of.
He's doing it and he'sdifferent and he's funny and
he's fearless and he becomesthis, this, this star, only from
doing the movie with this guy,nick Nolte, who only people know
from North Dallas 40, whichI've never seen the movie.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
The fact that you have that information is amazing
.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
But, like I looked it up one time because I wanted to
know, I wanted to know is NickNolte a big star?
Because, again, when you hearNick Nolte talk about Eddie
doing that movie, he's like, oh,this young guy doing the movie,
and you know, he's just, Idon't know if he can act.
Meanwhile, Nick Nolte is drunk.
(38:43):
Nick Nolte is a drunk.
He drunk right now.
No, but I'm saying like,remember that SNL episode where
Eddie Murphy was like, yeah, youknow, nick Nolte is supposed to
host the show, but he came inwith some vomit on his shirt and
he told me to host the show.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
They said it really didn't that really happen.
It really happened, he wasn'tlying.
He said it'll be a funny thingme to host the show, which they
said it really did not reallyhappen, like he really.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
It really happened, he wasn't lying he said it'll be
a funny thing, you tell him allabout it.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
And he just left when nick got here and got off the
plane he vomited on my shirt.
We realized nick was too sickto do the show and it's too bad
because nick was gonna be insome real great stuff tonight.
But I know you people tune into see one of the stars of 48
Hours host the show and, damn it, you're going to see it because
(39:34):
.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I'm going to host the show Live from New York.
It's the Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Show.
Yeah, I wish I had that luxury.
The funny thing is I didn knowNick Nolte's still blue chips
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I don't think anybody knows Nick Nolte except for
those movies, except for bluechips.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
You know it's and and again, that's.
That's the thing you put him inin that movie with Nick Nolte
and then you're like, okay, well, let's try it again.
Maybe it was just a fluke,right, maybe it was a fluke.
And then they do Trading Places, where you have Dan Aykroyd as
the star, but who ends upstealing the show?
(40:24):
Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
And the funny thing is he's not top billing on
either one of them.
But when you see Eddie Murphy'stop movies, he's the guy and
it's like it's crazy.
It's similar to when we talkabout how Bad Boys 1, martin was
top billing, right, but whateverybody talks about it just
gradually shifted to being WillSmith and Martin now, and it's
(40:50):
just how it is.
And that's why those who areaspiring comedians and actors it
don't matter what parts you gotyou get an opportunity to kill
it.
Kill that joint, because that'sall Anthony Murphy did.
He just took no prisoners and Ifeel like that Phyllis approach
that um, you know that thatcomes from doing stand-up,
(41:11):
obviously, but he also watched alot of television, you know,
and that probably played a rolewith, like how he would say,
like he would take bruce lee'seyes and muhammad ali's swag and
all those different and elvis'sswag and all those different
and Elvis's swag and like yousee those things and that's all.
Like you know, just creating atype of person where it's like,
(41:32):
look, I am a star, y'alleventually will catch up and
that's that's dope man.
It's like that's what.
Like Eddie Murphy can teach amasterclass without even saying
a word.
All you gotta do is just watchhis transition through his
movies.
And this is like it just madesense, like you didn't know why
(41:54):
it made sense, it just did Right.
Like yeah, it's just like hejust was.
Just like yeah, he's supposedto be there, cause he, we
believe it.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Right, yeah, and now we're.
We're in a renaissance of eddiemurphy where these movies are
coming out, where the thesequels to movies that people
wanted.
You know what I'm saying?
Because people ask for.
People ask for a sequel tocoming to america, like they ask
for sequels to these movies.
(42:23):
People always ask for anotheraxel foley movie, even though
some of these movies were notthe best you know critically.
But a movie like axel foley,you know, this new beverly hills
cop movie, it's, it's like,it's it's more of.
I want to say it.
(42:43):
It took a good 30-year processbecause it had to Like.
I remember when the pilot forBeverly Hills Cop came out.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
You know, I heard that there was.
You're talking about thetelevision show with Brandon T
Jackson Right with Brandon TJackson and I remember hearing
about it.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I'm like, okay, cool, this is like 2013.
I'm like cool, this is about tobe a Beverly Hills Cop show.
And Eddie Murphy was like, okay, cool, this is like 2013.
I'm like cool, this is about tobe a Beverly Hills Cop show.
And Eddie Murphy was like, okay, I'll be in the first episode,
but I'm not going to be therefor the whole show.
And CBS canned it.
They killed it because theycouldn't get Eddie Murphy to
commit.
Now we've actually seen thepilot for that.
Yeah, and it was a good pilot.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Hands in the air now.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
I know I ground you a couple of times, but damn.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
And I felt like his presence in that first episode
would have definitely solidifiedBrandon T Jackson as a bona
fide star, because he was comingoff of, um, the lottery ticket,
the performance and roll bouncelike he was.
He had it.
He had that it right.
Um, I just felt like he neededthat.
You know that nod.
(43:55):
I felt like I guess he thoughtthat, uh, big mama's house, too,
was going to do that for him.
But uh, you know, that didn'twork out quite well.
But oh yeah, big mamas nah I'mnot knocking it, because people
gotta do what they gotta do.
Look, I don't know if I wouldlook if they pass me a joint, so
I gotta look like raven's phone.
Whatever I, let me ladies buildmy god.
(44:18):
But but you know, I felt like Iguess people um, you know
people panic.
It's easy to trust a thing thatworks.
It's harder to take a chance oncertain things.
But I feel like now, like youwere saying, 30 years later,
with Netflix and all thesethings, where you can have
(44:40):
standalone movies and you canhave stuff for nostalgic
purposes because you knowthere's going to be an audience
for it and you don't have toworry about ticket sales because
it's like people are going tojust click on it.
You know, I mean like if youlove eddie murphy, you're going
to give it a try.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
You want to at least watch it once right and I think
this, I think axel f is actuallygoing to be good, it has to be,
I, I but I think it's like, Idon't think that it's going to
be the funniest Number one, Idon't.
I don't think that it's goingto wow us, but I do think that
the nostalgia factor, kind oflike with a come to America,
(45:17):
like the nostalgia factor wouldsay, would make us say, okay,
this is a decent movie.
You know, it will make us feellike, okay, taggart's in it, I,
rosewood is in it.
Okay, cool, who else is inthere?
Bronson pinchoff, like I don'tknow.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that he's in
it even if it's too second, likethat's all I need, like, and
sometimes you don't got toreinvent the wheel like.
I felt like, um, not to jumparound but coming to coming to
america.
Um, for the most part I likedhow they tied in the story.
I didn't agree with some of thecasting of it.
(45:52):
Um, I felt like they didbecause it was, you know, post
pandemic.
The pandemic was kind oflifting, so I can understand the
limitations with that too.
Um, but I liked how they theyum, made a way for him to
actually have a kid in it.
It would have been believable.
Like how they did that CGIscene of him in the bar and like
(46:13):
the stuff that we know, themovie that we loved about the
movie.
I felt like they did good oathsand nods to the original film.
I felt like, obviously, thelimitations.
It wasn't as grungier Like whenyou go back and watch the
original Coming to.
It wasn't as grungier Like whenyou go back and watch the
original.
Same with the first BeverlyHills cop.
It was like a, like a dirtinessto it.
I felt like by the time theygot the three, the joint, the
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streets were like washed.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
It's wonder world.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Detroit felt like it was like.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Oh yeah, detroit yeah .
Speaker 3 (46:44):
It was like mad clean , like they was like was like
you're clearly on the set now,but, like you know, but it's
cool, man.
I'm interested to see howthey're going to tie in,
obviously, all the things weloved about the films but also
just have an original story thatthat will have some replay
value.
(47:04):
I actually don't want it tojust be something that we just
watch one time.
I want to be able to watch itseveral times.
We shot all his old movies.
I can't say coming to America.
As much as I loved it.
I only could watch it oncebecause of the fact that I
didn't want to taint it.
I was okay with the feeling Ifelt after watching it.
(47:26):
I had too much expectation likethis one, like even actual f.
I'm not going to have a lot ofexpectations as long as they
don't crap the bed and drop theball too much, just get in and
get out I don't yeah, I don'tthink that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
However, I do think reality has to set in a little
bit.
Like, if you're like, okay,Taggart is still on the force,
Taggart got to be at leastalmost 80.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Yeah, because he has to be retired or something he
has to be like.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Billy could be still working, but yeah, they got to
be in an old folks home orsomething I like and eddie was
supposed to be older in thefirst, like you remember.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Well, like you remember, because we were saying
how, uh, sylvester stallone wassupposed to be in the movie and
everybody was casted around assylvester stallone, but they
replaced actors.
The problem was with the storyand the actors.
They, they tried to make Eddieolder.
So it was like you know, eddiehad to be even though Eddie was
(48:35):
21,.
He had to be on the force for alittle while, you know what I
mean.
So he had to be at least 27, 28.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
And, yeah, I can understand that, like, I would
even say like I don't even know,like what his thing would have
been like.
But how was he like, what ishis position in Detroit, or even
if he is on the force or ifhe's a private private?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I would like him to be the inspector, true.
How come he can't be inspector,todd?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
I mean he died in the third one right.
Like I would imagine that wouldmake sense to have him and like
I wouldn't even be mad at them,um, him having guys under him,
that against.
Like eventually they'll spinoff like similar to what they
did with bad boys.
But have you know, bringingthat next iteration, like what
they've tried to do with brandont jackson, but kind of doing it
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in a more organic way where youleave like all right, hey,
mercury, axel foley's going intothe sunset, but we got this
next generation of, uh, beverlyhills cop.
If we want to continue thegenre or go to, I don't know,
los angeles cop or orange countycop Orange.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
County cop.
I mean it's, you know.
I would love that.
I would like to see Paul Reiserin this.
I think, that he'd probably bein a position where either he
would be, he could be Todd.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
He could be.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Todd.
He could be expected, todd, youknow, or they could be working
on something deep, deep, deepundercover.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
I feel like he could go into business for himself and
be a private investigator, likehe's retired and just doing his
own thing.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
That could be something too, because I don't
see Eddie being Axl Foley, thelegendary Axl Foley, for so long
.
Because, again, if you're 63right now, you know, and let's
just say you know, let's justage him up for a little while
longer Like you're not going tobe able to do all this stuff.
Like he said it in all hispress conferences that he's been
doing, he's been doing pressfor this movie the past couple
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of weeks and he said, like Idon't want to do anything that
Morgan Freeman ain't doing.
No-transcript, yeah, I wouldimagine yeah yeah, some people
(51:00):
in the third one that afro wasgetting little is, uh, his stunt
guy.
I think his name was vernon orsomething like that.
Like it's a guy that looksexactly like eddie murphy.
I gotta find the picture.
I know, I, I know, I know wherethe picture is somewhere, but
there's a guy that is eddiemurphy stunt double and he looks
exactly like eddie murphy yeah,well, you asked me a question
earlier.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
I wanted to know I just wanted to return it back to
you what was one of yourfavorite moments in the original
?
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Well, I would say the Beverly Hills cop as a whole in
the series.
Okay, in Beverly Hills cop one,I think my favorite scene is
and I think probably in all theBeverly Hills cops probably a
strip club, the strip club scenewhere he's, you know, dancing
and and he's he, you know,dancing and and he's he, you
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know he got Rosewood andtaggered with him and they're
like they're not really having agreat time, they don't want to
be there and Eddie's like hesees that these guys are casing
the joint and he actually, youknow, does a diversion to stop
the guys and it shows himactually doing police work,
rather than being thrown outwindows and pretending to be
(52:10):
other people.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah, I can see that because it's showing how like he
actually knows what he's doing.
And I felt like that that madeit make sense.
Like you didn't see, like howis this guy going to be a cop?
Like you believe it.
Yeah, like I get that too.
Like I, I liked it because itshowed like all right, yeah,
he's from the inner city, butyou guys have no idea.
(52:33):
Like you have to have a like alook and and then also to to
piggyback off what you're saying, like that kind of showed,
because that later on came backat the end when they kind of had
to dirty up themselves.
Like you have to have some formof grit to really like do some
good in the world and really tryto get these guys, who kind of
(52:53):
got to think like a criminal ina sense, right Because he's
crossing the line throughout thewhole thing, like he's just
literally like breaking intohouses, he's living in places
that he ain't supposed live in.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
I mean, he fractured a couple laws or two, but yeah,
he wasn't always a cop.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
People, ladies and gentlemen, he wasn't always a
cop yeah the crayon they tab latbut it's, it's I.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
I wish they would have called this uh beverly
hills cop old guys, becausethat's that's what it looks like
when I saw it.
There's a clip that they showin the movie on a trailer where
Taggart, rosewood and Axl areall in the car together and I'm
like this just looks like someold guys is putting their badges
(53:39):
back on and going out there andtrying to stop some crime,
because the story of the movieand I don't know all of the
story or all the plot yet, but Ido know that joseph gordon
levitt and um uh, taylor page isuh playing his daughter- okay
oh, um this just in.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Uh, bronson pinchot is in the movie oh, I kind of
didn't want to know.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
I'll edit it out.
I mean but this is also likelet me just be clear, this is
also IMDb, so you could submitsomebody and not know.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
But I mean I would imagine that he's in there
because I'm sure he wasn'tgetting no perfect stranger
checks, no time.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
So he definitely wasn't.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
I am in my will take checks is going down yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
If I'm not getting any rap, shit checks.
I know he's not getting any, soplease.
Speaker 3 (54:45):
Everybody that's watching or listening, please
like.
I know this is off the cuff,but if you you follow us and you
like what you heard, pleasefollow our social media
platforms.
Please watch the shows that weare on um, please, because that
definitely does help us out.
Even if you're not watching it,just let it run in the
background yeah you know what'sfunny.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
But what was real funny?
Um, I was watching a.
I was watching a podcast, Ithink it's uh, the host is uh,
maestro, I don't know if youknow him.
He's from the wire.
He played randy on the wire andhe interviews actors.
So he was interviewing an actorfriend of mine and he was
(55:29):
talking about what he gets youknow, recognized for all the
time, and he was in person, wastalking to him.
He was like, nah, I rememberyou, what I remember you from.
This man is thinking snowfall.
Right.
He's thinking, well, you knowjust the snowfall, I'm in LA,
maybe a snowfall.
He goes.
Nah, nah, it was that that show, that that show about the 80s.
(55:51):
It was on the get down.
This fool said, yeah, I don'teven remember doing the get down
and I'm like, damn, I gotta bea working actor like him.
He don't even remember, he don'teven remember the thing that
we're in together, the scene Iwas in with you, man.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yeah, maybe he was trying to Hollywood.
Who was he in?
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Snowfall he's Big Dion okay, got you the one that
got choked out by jerome yeah,yeah, oh leon, he got choked out
by leon, yeah, yeah yeah, theone that got hit with the bottle
so, overall for this movie,what would you expect for, like
the storyline to be, or whatkind of what would make you say,
(56:38):
okay, I'm, I'm okay with thismovie?
Speaker 3 (56:41):
um, I would say that it would just have to make sense
in the sense of like a reasonwhy he would come back to
Beverly Hills, a reason why hewould have to go looking for
whomever he's looking for, totrack down with, you know, with
(57:01):
the help of his buddies.
I want to see, like as manypeople as they can bring back
that is alive or that is able todo it back.
I want to get that nostalgiafactor Anytime.
I just like seeing Eddie Murphyon my screen.
I watched that Christmas moviehe did.
It was fun.
I forgot what the name of itwas.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Kenny Kane Lane.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
That was fun and like because of the thing is it's
like Eddie Murphy for me cannever do wrong.
Even Metro Holy man, it doesn'tmatter, he can never do any
wrong for me.
But I like the fact that he hasmovies now where I can watch
with you know my son and educatehim.
(57:48):
For instance, my wife didn'tknow Eddie Mercury other than
his later stuff with Shrek.
She didn't realize that he wason SNL, she didn't realize that
he was a comedian.
I got to relive a lot of thatstuff through her.
And then also now my son gotthis, we watched Candy Cane Land
(58:09):
together.
He loves that movie.
So like just being able to seethose things and like start that
next generation of Eddie Murphyin the next era of a life as
kids, as teens, as young adultsand now, you know, adult adults,
old-ass, nick.
(58:30):
So like now that's funny weclassify them that way yeah, so
I'm looking forward to.
Just like I said, I don't haveany expectations.
As long as they cover thosegrounds, I get to see the actors
that was in the previous movies.
They have some of thethrowbacks from other movies and
the plot is decent.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
I'm OK.
What about you?
I think what I need to see fromthis is them not trying to be
funny.
I think, if you have a goodstory if there could be a funny
quip, cool.
But don't try to like joke meto death like you tried to do
with Beverly Hills, Cop 3.
Because that's not where itcomes from.
(59:15):
We are in a society where wewant our comedy and our movies
grounded.
We want it to be grounded insome sort of reality and we want
we don't want it to be corny.
As long as it doesn't do that,as long as it doesn't suck, I'm
happy Like.
You ain't got to do nothingelse, you just got to just not
make it suck.
(59:35):
I've seen this movie severaltimes.
I know what this movie is goingto do.
Just don't make it suck, youknow, there's a difference
between House Party and HouseParty.
3 and House.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
Party, the remake.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
House Party 4.
And House Party, the remake.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
Oh yeah, there's a way big difference, it's cutting
, it's the biggest difference.
Lord have mercy.
That joint went left super fast.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
It was really bad.
It's the only movie to be outon max one year and then on to
two be the next.
It's the only movie to be outon max one year and then on to
two be the next.
Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
That's crazy, yeah, and then it just got the Animal
House like cover on it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I'm like it was just bad and it's produced by LeBron.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Yeah yeah, I felt weird watching that movie.
I was like what did I?
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
It's not House Party.
It's not House Party, Whateverit is.
It's not the White man Can'tJump remake was better than the
House Party remake.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yeah, if it ain't Wesley and Woody, I couldn't
rock with it.
It was actually no.
Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
If honestly, I wish they didn't call it white man
can't jump, yeah.
But if I watched it, you knowI'd be like yeah, this is just
white man can't jump.
You know what I mean?
Like I can't like you know likeI'm going to have that whole.
You know I'm going to compareit Even if you didn't call.
(01:01:05):
If you didn't call it that I'dbe like, okay, this is a decent
movie, but it's just white mancan't jump, like you know, and
sometimes you run into that.
Like I said, if they call thismovie old guys instead of
Beverly Hills cop probablywouldn't get a lot of people
liking it more than more thannot people liking it more than
(01:01:29):
more than not, but I mean Ithink just the name alone, um,
is going to get eyes on it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
They also did a great job, netflix, by putting older
films of eddie murphy so peoplecan kind of get reacquainted,
and even how people getintroduced to that eddie murphy,
because that's essentially.
He reinvented himself so manytimes, like he went from the
brash, fast talking one tosmooth guy and then he went to
(01:01:57):
more like older characters anddifferent characters and then
now this is with you people and,yeah, you people.
Now this is, you know, with youpeople and yeah, you people,
yeah, you people.
And uh, coming to america, um,this movie like now you see the
more like granddad eddie murphy,but still smooth, like he's not
(01:02:19):
like I he's not old billcosbyby or an old Richard where
they visibly look.
He's a good 63.
He's believable.
He can get himself in decentshape to do a stunt if he needed
to, but obviously he doesn'tneed to.
Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Right, I just don't want him to be the fast-talking
guy, because at 63,.
I don't think you're gettingover on people and trying to be
like is this Victor?
Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
in his office.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
If he does that, I'm going to laugh and I'm not even
going to be mad.
If they find a way for him todo that, I would die laughing.
I would be like yo, this is it.
Is this the?
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
guy that wrecked the buffet table.
Imagine that would be hilarioustable Imagine.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
That would be hilarious.
Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I don't mind.
I wouldn't even mind for themto do stuff that happened before
, even if they bring back theother two cops that he threw the
banana in the tailpipe with.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Oh, I would love that .
Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Yeah, this stuff like little throwbacks.
Like I said, you don't gotta OD, just stay the course, Rely on
the nostalgia.
You have a good plot, nothingtoo crazy.
Don't have Kenya Burris Right,did he write it?
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
No, he didn't, he did , I don't know I don't know if
he.
Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
I don't know if he did.
I just like.
He just makes things toocolorful, like they got.
I know he loves blackness.
Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
He did not write it, so that's a good sign yeah yeah,
yeah, that's all I care about.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Like, is this day true the thing?
I wish it was Jerry Brock, I'madding things I mean he produced
the original one but, I, don'tthink that he's producing this
one.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
I don't have a production credit for him on
this.
Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Well, it's probably good, because in the movie it
won't be two hours and 30minutes, so that'll be good.
Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Jerry, you gotta put everything in the movie.
It will be a crocodile chewinghim up, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Beijing jokes.
Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Yeah, oh that Jerry.
He just makes Transformermovies the last two days man.
Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
No cameos of Michael Bay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
But all right, man, where can the people find you at
?
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Always and forever.
Hashtag the Fudge Shuffle onall social media platforms,
especially Instagram.
You can also find me on theLast Take, where I'll do the
Kendrick Perkins impression, andalso you can find me at comedy
clubs and shows all around, sotour dates and everything will
be on that page and you know andalso have content.
(01:05:13):
You also can catch me herewhenever you know.
Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Well, we have to have you back on for when the actual
movie comes out.
Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yes, definitely, definitely, when we actually get
.
You know.
Right now this is just a teaser, but you know, definitely once
we see the movie we can dissectit and show what we really like
and compare it with the othermovie.
Yeah, but I mean, look, if youall you gotta do is find the
first shuffle, you find me andyou see my big old head.
Maybe we good All alrightdefinitely alright, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Thank you, and if all hearts and minds are clear,
let's end this show.
I hope my buttons work.
That's not what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Ah, I'm doing it, google yeah, man, hopefully,
hopefully, kick him in the dingdong.
shout out to rob ziegler yeah, so even the people
, the black people with money,didn't live in beverly hills.
They lived in um dare heights,windsor hills or baldwin hills
black beverly hills.
Yeah, right right.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
They lived over here because they knew we weren't
welcome over there that's crazy,because I said I don't know the
history of what it was when Iwatched Billy Hill's Cop.
All I think about is what theother side looks like at that
time.
So what could be that it was a?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
cool movie, but I mean it was a good movie.
My era there that's like one ofthe first movies I've seen,
action comedy with a black malelead, like you know the 70s,
with Richard Roundtree and JimBrown or whatever.
(00:58):
You know, that was the 70sblack exploitation era.
That was before my era.
You know what I mean thoselow-budget movies probably only
shown in before my era.
You know I mean those lowbudget movies probably only
shown in the black.
You know neighborhoods, blackmovie theaters.
Beverly hills cop was, you know, a major production shown
everywhere with the black malelead.
You know, so it was.
(01:20):
It was a significant movie forme, for my generation, I think
you know.
But I think the first time Iseen Beverly Hills Cop might
have been maybe two, three yearsafter its release date.
I'm going to really age myselfon a select TV, selecting like
on TV.
I know exactly what you'retalking about.
(01:46):
So it was released there on HBO.
When I seen it, you know, likeI said, I was 10, 11 years old
in 84, so my parents wouldn'ttake me to the movies to see
Beverly Hills Cop.
You know Eddie Murphy was.
You know he was a reincarnationof Richard Pryor.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He wouldn't take me to see his movies.
You know what I mean.
You know what's funny.
I have a friend that's aroundthe same age as you and he told
me his parents took him to see48 Hours in the movie theater.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right, yeah, I've seen that.
My cousin and his mom took meto see that, but my parents
wasn't going to.
Even then it was like, yeah,take me to the movie, but they
never told them what movie theywould take me to see.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That's funny.
Now, what was like your firstintroduction to Eddie Murphy?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Actually it was on Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know that was like, you know, staying up late.
I'm spending night at one of myfriend's house and I'm sleeping
over, you know we stay up latewith the TV down low because it
came on at, you know, 11.30, 11o'clock at night, you know.
So we had to sneak and watchthat with Velvet Jones.
And you know Buckwheat, mrRobinson's Neighborhood, you
(02:57):
know.
So that was my firstintroduction to Eddie Murphy.
We would go back to school,like I said, at 84.
I'm in the sixth grade, so inLos Angeles at that point, sixth
grade, you're still inelementary school.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You didn't make the switch over to middle school to
seventh grade.
It was seventh, eighth gradeand ninth grade was middle
school.
In Los Angeles in those areasHigh school was 10th, 11th and
12th grade.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So that was my first taste with them, and then later
again maybe that same with,maybe the year before, 83, 84,
I'm not sure which, but againover my friends.
I was down the street watchingDelirious, like the funniest
thing I had ever seen.
You know what I'm saying.
(03:43):
Ever heard, Did he?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
have cable.
Did he have cable?
He had the tape.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He had the funniest thing I had ever seen, you know,
did he have cable?
Did he have cable he?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
had the tape.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He had the tape.
He had the Select Okay, the.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Select TV Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So it was on HBO, like you know.
Back then it was, I guess,technically cable, but again it
only had a few channels.
You know what I mean.
It wasn't like nowadays, butyeah, just staying up, sneaking
in, you know, and his, his olderbrother, you know, letting us
watch that and we going back toschool, you know, telling jokes,
(04:11):
pull over, pull over, notknowing what that.
You know what I mean oh man,that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Now, when, after beverly hills cop came out and
after eddie murphy hit the scene, what was the effect?
Did you see a lot of peoplegravitating toward him?
Because I know there wasn't alot of famous people in the 80s.
There was three famous blackpeople in the 80s.
That was Michael Jackson, eddieMurphy and Prince.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Right, right, yeah.
Well, you gotta remember.
In LA in 84, it was the firstfew years of the crack era Gang
banging was full fledged, fullthrottle, like gang banging in
LA, like they were stilltripping on colors.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You know cripping.
A guy with a red shirt on or ared belt or a red Nike stripe on
his shoes they fled him Blood.
See same thing, guy with a blueshirt on or a blue hat or blue
Nike stripe they fled him.
You know.
So Darryl Gates was still thechief of police for the LAPD
(05:22):
there.
And you remember, in 84, theOlympics came to Los Angeles
Right.
So they were you know massincarceration going around
arresting everybody they couldto so-called clean up the
streets because the world wascoming to LA for the Olympics.
When they introduced the battleround, they, you know tank,
(05:44):
with a you know ramming deviceon the front, instead of
shooting you know missiles, orthey had a big you know banner,
so they were ramming in front ofthe houses so-called crack
houses or gang you know housesand just arrested everybody.
So it was, it was a wild timein LA.
People in LA was, yeah, welistened to Michael Jackson,
(06:05):
prince, and yeah, you know,watching Delirious, but it was a
whole lot of other stuff goingon that they weren't really you
know what I mean concerned about.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now Eddie Murphy being in that red leather suit.
How was he welcomed in yourneighborhood?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, like he didn't come where I live, I know he
didn't.
Eddie Murphy was a superstar,he said.
You know, when he came to LA hewas in Hollywood now I gotta
ask you cause.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
A lot of times on this podcast we ask this one
serious question what are yourtop 5 Eddie Murphy movies?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
top 5 Eddie Murphy movies.
Alright, wow, top five EddieMurphy movies.
Yeah, alright, um wow, harlemNights boomerang okay and even
with boomerang, like my mostmemorable moment in boomerang is
with uh Pop.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It wasn't even Eddie Murphy, you know right like Pop,
he, he, he, he, he, he, he hehe, he, he, he, he ring is with
Pop.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It wasn't even Eddie Murphy Pop.
He sold every scene he was inin that movie Trading Places, of
course, I don't care who youare, that's on every list for
Eddie Murphy.
I got two more, I don't know.
Life, of course, ooh, life.
(07:30):
Okay, one of the funniestmovies I've ever seen with them,
him and Martin, they just theirchemistry, they're just feeding
off each other Like best comedyduos I can just recollect.
(07:50):
And of course, the first comingto America.
There you go.
That'll be my top five.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know you're leaving some stuff out by making
that your top five.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I know 48 hours.
Of course everybody was cold.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I like doing this because you know every time you
make a list, you're alwaysleaving something out.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's like you know the Mount Rushmore,
you know question.
No matter what genre you posethat question, it's only four
spots, All right.
Well, thank you for doing this.
It was a pleasure.
It's only four spots.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Alright.
Well, thank you for doing this.
It was a pleasure.
I'm gonna put this out,probably sometime next month
when I do my Beverly Hills Copepisode, and I'll have you at
the top of the episode talkingabout what the culture and
climate was like around the timethe movie came out alright,
cool, cool yeah, no problem,anytime man listen, if you wanna
talk comedy whatever?
just let me know I the moviecame out All right cool.
(08:53):
All right Cool.
Yeah, no, this was fun, noproblem.
Anytime, man, listen.
If you want to talk comedywhatever, just let me know, I'll
get you back on.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
We can talk about whatever.
All right, for sure Soundsgreat.
I appreciate it, nigel.
All right thank you.
All right later.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Later.
We've been waiting for a long,long time.
Good morning, my neighbor.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Jesus Christ.
This is becoming veryirritating.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of
the Murphy Monday podcast, theonly podcast that celebrates the
life and career of Eddie Murphy.
I'm your host, nigel AFullerton.
This week we wanted to do aspecial Beverly Hills Cop
episode.
However, with the new BeverlyHills Cop movie coming out this
(09:54):
week, we wanted to do somethingdifferent.
We wanted to do a compare andcontrast episode between Beverly
Hills Cop the original movieand Beverly Hills Cop 4.
In this episode we talk aboutthe pilot for Beverly Hills Cop.
We talk about Beverly Hills Cop2, beverly Hills Cop 3.
(10:17):
And what we predict BeverlyHills Cop 4 is going to be With
me this week is my good friend,john Fudge Rickenbacker.
You've heard him on the podcastseveral times.
He's the unofficial, officialco-host of this podcast.
It's funny.
(10:38):
We recorded this episode lastweek.
Shortly after that, a interviewwith Eddie Murphy, a new
interview with Eddie Murphy popsout and it's damn near
everything that we had just said, like from the impressions of
sliced alone to the wholeGhostbusters thing, to Eddie
(11:02):
Murphy being the firstinternational black superstar.
So this is a great episode.
If you haven't already, pleaselike, share and subscribe.
Tell an Eddie Murphy fan totell an Eddie Murphy fan that
you love this podcast and, withall hearts and minds clear,
let's start this show.
(11:23):
You've heard him from the lifeepisode.
You've heard him from BeverlyHills Cop 3 episode.
Ladies and gentlemen, pleasegive a round of applause for
John Fudge Rickenbacker yes, Iwas also in the what's Going
(11:54):
Down episode.
My audience is not going to fallfor a banana on the tailpipe on
this one.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You're not going to fall for a banana on the
tailpipe.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
We wanted to do a special episode.
I have that Donebelle Hills Copcop episode.
I will do that very soon.
Right now, on the eve ofbasically what's happening with
the new bethlehem's cop movie,axel f, we're trying to get
compare and contrast and whatour predictions are for what's
going to happen with this movie.
(12:26):
Um, you know, everybody knowsthat bethlehem's cop from IMDb
says that after the murder ofhis childhood friend, the slick
Detroit detective Axel Foleyheads to sunny Beverly Hills on
a one-man mission to ferret outthe killer and bring him to
justice.
Before long, axel and hisunorthodox methods unearthed the
(12:48):
lucrative drug operation of thepowerful local crime kingpin,
victor maitland.
However, foley too will findhimself in deep trouble as
lieutenant andrew bogermil wantshim out of town now.
Axel will have to team up withdetectives john taggett and
billy rosewood to shed light onthe thick conspiracy and finish
(13:13):
what he has started.
Will Foley's total disregardfor proper procedure bear fruit?
We'll find out.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
He's parody.
I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, it's AI.
Ai can make anything lookbetter.
So whatever the person did onIMDb for that one, there we go.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, I mean, that's not like I would watch it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I mean, this is probably one of the first action
comedies.
I think this is like a definingmovie for that.
I don't think there was anaction comedy before.
That was there defining moviefor that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I don't think there was an action comedy before that
was there, not to my knowledge.
I feel like eddie murphy wasthe first of a lot of genres
that he doesn't get a lot ofcredit for.
I think we talked about inprevious episodes or you
definitely brought it up abouthim actually inventing rom-coms,
in a sense like yeah, I meanfor black people.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I don't know if there was.
Yeah, I don't know if there was, a rom-com probably.
Let's say harry met sally.
Let's say, um, I can't think ofany more off the top of my head
, but joe versus the volcano, Iguess that was a a rom-com, tom
hanks, you know it was tom hanksand meg ryan as well, so that's
why I said that, but it's.
(14:33):
There are a lot ofgenre-defining things, and I
think this is one of hisbreakout starring roles.
Axel Foley, this is the onethat everybody was like okay,
we've seen 48 Hours, we've seenyou in Trading Places.
Now let's see what you can doin a movie on your own where you
are the star.
Yeah, in a movie on your ownwhere you are the star.
Yeah, you know, I don't thinkthere's anybody else in this
(14:54):
that's known, besides judgeReinhold.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, and he was older by that time, cause he was
like a child actor.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I think, I think I'm not sure.
Like I know, I know him fromfast times of Ridgemont high.
Yeah, but that's like a highschool movie, yeah, but that was
only like I want to say 80, 81,true, and then you have this
movie in 84.
So he's kind of known, kind ofnot known, but he's known in
(15:25):
this movie as the young kid yeah, yeah man, this was dope, a
dope film man cause just Youngkid.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, yeah man, this was a dope film man because just
I guess for that time this waslike very groundbreaking seeing
like a black lead and likepretty much almost like a black
dude in a white world, almost.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It definitely was.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, it wasn't predicated on his black.
I mean, it had some racialthings in it, but not too much.
Like he was just a guy Likethis old wisecracking dude, like
it was believable, like he canget through certain things.
It wasn't like he was just likethis hood dude, even though he
came from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He was just like this guy, who was very confident and
sure of itself and just wasfearless in a sense.
Well, it was a fish out ofwater story, which we love.
Um, back then in the 80s therewas no internet, so you didn't
know what happened in detroitversus what would happen in
beverly hills.
So like for him.
It's definitely culture shock,like for him, to see people
dressed up like michael jacksonon the street, like that's not
heard of.
You know, to get a cappuccino,uh, with the lemon twist at an
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art gallery Like like.
It's not, like these arecharacters and the people in
Beverly Hills are people that hewould never associate with.
So you're taking him out of hiselement.
That's what makes the moviefunny.
You know, um, it's differentnow when you try to do fish out
of his element.
That's what makes the moviefunny.
You know, um, it's differentnow when you try to do fish out
of water stories, because thereisn't.
The water is only two feet deepnow.
(16:57):
So it's easy to find out aboutsomebody's culture, about where
somebody lives, just by googlingit you know, rather than yeah,
in in 1984.
You didn't have that.
You didn't.
You didn't have that.
You didn't have.
Like I used to talk to like alot of older dudes who were
around the time when the moviecame out and how LA and Beverly
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Hills was back then, and it'slike it's night and day as well
for them.
So you have the Beverly Hillsaspect of it, but then you have
the gang aspect of L yeah, soit's.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It's very gang oriented in that movie.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It wasn't because you're in beverly hills.
This is not the lapd, this isthe beverly hills police
department.
So in california they havedifferent police departments of
the town.
So like there's Compton PD,there's um, there's the LA PD
and there's like Beverly HillsPD and a lot of the different
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towns have their own policedepartments.
You know, I don't know if itstill works on precincts or well
, but I do know that at therewas a time when a specific town
had their own police department.
So for Eddie Murphy, as aDetroit police officer, you know
, coming from Detroit, living inDetroit, going on his street
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sense and his knowledge, youknow, trying to do the neutron
dance in Detroit, meets up withhis old friend, get his friend,
gets shot and then he's likeokay, I have to find out what's
going on in Beverly Hills, tofind out what's going on with
his murder, and in that he runsinto a world of people, a
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different world that he's neverseen before, and runs against
stuff Like he gets thrown out ofa window.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
On your, on your a window, yeah, on your first day.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, I wouldn't even begin to.
I would have to go home afterthat.
I couldn't get out.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
He just walked in and threw me out the window.
I drove all the way here justto get thrown out a window.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Does he have to pay for that window?
I think they said that he hadto pay for that window, like
they just broke, they made him.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think they said that he had to pay for the
window that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
They threw him out the window.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
He gotta pay for it now, what are your favorite
moments of?
Of beverly hills, cop uh, the1984 movie?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
um well, first off, I like the fact that, um, this is
a, this is.
I think Eddie Murphy kind ofshowed all his skills and like
almost like a foreshadow to whathe was going to do character
wise in his movies.
After that he did a lot of stuffsimilar to Bowfinger, where
he's the same guy but he's doingdifferent characters within it,
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just to like almost like he's amaster of disguise wearing the
exact same thing right right um,one of my favorite parts is, um
, just how he maneuvers throughcertain conversations, how he
gets people to believe that he'sa cop um from beverly hills, or
that he's a foreman, or like,for instance, like damon wayne's
part, which is like that's thetop one that sticks out to me.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's so short of a scene um, but it's so weird of a
scene too, right yeah, it'slike it doesn't fit, but it does
I need a couple of bananas.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
How much of it?
Well, the buffet plate is 12.50.
You get peaches, plums, orangesand bananas.
All I need is a couple bananas.
All I need is a couple ofbananas.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Go ahead and take those bananas it does, because
then he uses that again later onwith Victor Maitland, and I
don't know if that was acorrelation, I don't even know,
did that?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
scene come beforehand .
You know what I think it came.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
After, because he got the bananas first when they
were following him.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Right, it was after, but again a big trope what they
used to do, which a lot.
I'm sorry for them now, but alot of comedians used to do a
more effeminate voice to makefun of the LGBTQ community, the.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
LGBTQ.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
See, but I got it right.
I got it right yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
You did it.
Let's get a bit of ticket.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
But I have to talk to Victor.
It's very, very important.
Are you sure it's VictorMaitland you want?
Oh yes, Victor Maitland, thegray-haired gentleman, very dark
skin, Capricorn Victor.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Well, why don't you give me the message and I'll
take it?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
to him.
Okay, I guess I can do that.
Tell Victor that Ramon, thefellow he met about a week ago,
tell him that Ramon went to theclinic today and I found out
that I have herpes simplex 10.
And I think Victor should gocheck himself out with his
physician to make sureeverything is fine before things
start falling off on the manperhaps you better tell him that
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you know.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I think that would be best but yeah, cuz I just
watched the whole documentary oncall outstanding in comedy and
it's it's about LGBTQ and pluscomedians who like what they had
to go through and the things.
And one of the people theymentioned is eddie murphy and
they talk about how his you knowhe's known notoriously in his
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comedy special for making fun ofgay people specifically so you
know it was a trope.
It was a thing that they weredoing.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Now that's something that they couldn't do anymore,
but back then they did that forlaughs yeah, me personally,
looking back at it, because Iknow a lot of stuff didn't uh
right date well, like, like fromhis stand-up movies.
But that specific scene didn'tnecessarily um well for me.
(22:52):
But I mean, obviously I'mheterosexual, but just in case
you didn't know, uh, but at thesame time, like I don't feel
like it was, I felt like it was.
It proved the point, you know,because they had to make the
situation uncomfortable, um, forvictim aytman to you know, to
come out so that they can getthem outside, or what have you.
I mean I liked it and I didn'tfeel like it was negative.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Like I never.
I mean, I don't feel that it'snegative, but I can understand
if somebody's offended by it.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Of course.
Yeah, I mean I could beoffended by Glory, but you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now Glory has some funny moments in Glory.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Now I cannot say Lord , my Lord, like it has Get your
hands off me, nigga.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I ain't no, nigga's half.
I ain't no, nigga's half.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Morgan Freeman was 54 when he grew up.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Oh my God, and he looks so old now, oh my gosh, he
just looks so old now.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Oh my gosh, he just grew into his age.
He's under 54.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's funny because Eddie Murphy, on his press tour
for Axl F, has been saying donot give me any roles that you
would not give to Morgan Freeman.
He's like, please.
He's like, I'm 63 years old, donot give me any roles that you
wouldn't give to Morgan Freeman.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
That's what I want.
That is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Because, again, this man, when he does Beverly Hills
Cop, he is 21 years old SheeshIn a movie, in a movie and this
is what's even dope about thismovie In a movie that he wasn't
even supposed to be in.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, it was for Sylvester Stallone Right.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Imagine that and they never changed.
They never changed anythingfrom the movie, which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You're not going to fall for the banana chip.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You're not going to fall for the bananapipe.
Yeah, you know you're goingfour foot banana in the tailpipe
.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Imagine the victim.
Imagine that scene with DamonWayans.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Nothing like Axel Foley.
I'm going to put a banana inyour tailpipe.
It would have been menacing, itwould have been mean when he
was like you're going to followme, I'm going to put a banana in
your tailpipe.
No funniness, phil.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Hey, come on.
Phil baby, give him a kiss.
Hey, come on.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Phil, baby give him a kiss, hey Phil, hey, yo, hey yo
, hey yo Phil.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But it's wild to know that, to know that that movie
was supposed to be number one,more graphic as the movies were
of the time and two supposed tostart with the star of Stop of
my Mom Will Shoot.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, rambo, that's Rambo.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I know it's Rambo, but I didn't want to just go to
Rambo.
I could have said Rocky, Icould have said any other movie
but Rambo.
You know you have Rambo playingthe Beverly Hills cop, which
wouldn't work, and that's why,to get somebody who is known for
humor more than action films,it actually worked.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
You know, and it sparked a whole list of movies
that are Beverly Hills, copclones, movies like Rush Hour or
Even Money Talks.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Big Mama's House 7.
No, bad Boys, bad Boys.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But yeah, big Mama's House has it also where he's
going under cover.
But again, it's an actionquote-unquote action comedy.
An action quote-unquote actioncomedy.
You know, bad boysquote-unquote action comedy.
This, this stuff did not work,like it wasn't a thing.
We didn't have hyphenatedmovies.
It's kind of like my argumentwith the movie ghostbusters.
(27:05):
You know, ghostbusters isconsidered a comedy, but it's
not a comedy.
It's more of a hybrid of of atype of film that you know.
We don't call the the guardiansof the galaxy action movies.
We don't call the marvel moviesaction movies.
They're movies with humor.
We don't call them comedies.
(27:25):
We don't really call themaction movies.
What do we call them?
marvel you know what I'm saying.
Like what?
What's the genre?
That's what I'm saying likewhat's the john like?
If it's the ant-man movie, youknow it's about to be funny.
Do you call it a comedy?
You can't, you can't categorizeit as a comedy.
So what do you call it?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
well, action comedy, which, right, I mean, that's
what I would think, because it'snot suspenseful.
Yeah, it's not suspenseful, butthat's that's what I would
think because it's notsuspenseful.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, it's not suspenseful, but that's that's
what I'm saying.
Like, all they had back thenwas suspense, thriller, comedy,
drama yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
Oh, horror, that's it.
Yeah, and that's normally.
The horror is in suspense andthriller and stuff like that,
but that's all they had.
They didn't have anything else.
So for them to come out of thebox with a person who has only
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did a handful of films, likeEddie Murphy did not do
Ghostbusters, to do BeverlyHills, cop yeah, yeah, he didn't
even do Ghostbusters.
No, no, he didn't.
He was supposed to be WinstonZegmore.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
He was supposed to be .
You were ever Axl.
You were that close to being aGhostbuster.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
And I would love to know how far you got in the
process of figuring out who yourGhostbuster was going to be
before Axl came along.
It was really simple.
I was going to do Ghostbusters,but Beverly Hills Cop was a
leading role and Ghostbusterswas like an ensemble thing and I
was one of the guys.
So we went with Beverly HillsCop and I had never done you
know, I had never been the leadguy Right?
(28:59):
Well, I think you made theright choice.
Well yeah, because Ghostbustersis a really classic.
I would love at best I wouldlove to have been in both of
them.
They're still making them, man.
Yeah, but back then that wouldhave been cool.
Ghostbusters and Beverly HillsCop they would have shot a
rocket off of my yard, thatwould have been crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, that's a whole other thing can of beans, but
that's the.
Thing but back to back tobeverly hills cop.
It's.
It's a, it's a great film thatwe all love.
Now, with the sequels thatwe've had, we have beverly hills
, cop 2, uh, which was decent,but it was more action heavy
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than it was with comedy.
Beverly hills, cop 3 they triedto make it more comedy than
they tried to do action, whichkind of felt lackluster, like I
always say.
With Beverly Hills, cop 3, it'sJohn Landis' film.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I feel like they were trying to make it more family
friendly.
I think, with the whole idea ofit being an amusement park, like
we, only even us like we werecause, like even us, like we
were younger when we saw it,when it came out, and us working
at an amusement park, we had wekind of had we liked it a
little more.
I mean actually, honestly, outof the three besides, one, like
(30:21):
if I had to pick like three issecond, I actually liked three
Only because of the reasons likethe okie dokie shuffle I was
actually having thisconversation okie shuffle and um
, just uh, working at amusementpark.
Obviously we know like the insand outs like stuff, but we
always follow like behind thescenes stuff going on in
adventureland and stuff likethat, so follow our story.
(30:44):
But, um, yeah, I actually likeum wonder world and I thought it
was pretty cool to see likesomething like disney world on
the fritz and the uh annihilator2000 like it's so much other
stuff like it's, even thoughthey went comedy heavy and a
little bit more like slapsticky.
And the third one actuallyactually liked it.
It was a change of pace and Ifelt like out of the three and
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he was older than two, so likeone and I actually liked it.
It was a change of pace.
I felt like out of the threeand he was older than two, so
one and three, I liked the mostout of them.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I don't hate Beverly Hills Cop 3.
I don't I actually do like themovie.
I will watch the movie, but Ialso know the limitations of the
movie.
It's not the best movie, you'reright, it's not the best movie,
but there are certain thingsthat make you laugh in that
movie that you're like okay, Ilike this movie.
It's not a Beverly Hills Copmovie, though.
(31:33):
That's the thing, especiallycoming off of Beverly Hills Cop
2, which was more.
You could tell they had abigger budget than Beverly Hills
Cop 2.
It was more like Miami Vicethan it was anything else.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I would definitely go back and
watch all of them in succession,but yeah, because a lot of the
one and two kind of bleed intoeach other especially like the
storyline.
But yeah, I mean I guess it'sall error too, because it's all,
I guess, preference, because ifyou're known like, if you
follow Eddie Murphy more for hisfunnier stuff, especially back,
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then you would like three morethan two maybe if you like to
see him rank.
A lot of people didn't like tosee him too serious, which was
kind of hard for him too, I'msure.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, yeah, it's a double-edged sword.
What happens with comedicactors?
Whereas in the beginning ofyour career all they want from
you is funny, but toward the endof your career, all they want
from you is drama.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You know, it's like if you look at a person like Jim
Carrey, whereas Jim Carrey wasa person that we only went to
for comedy, then he startedgoing left and started doing the
Truman Show, and he starteddoing man on the Moon and like
23.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, he did.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
But he was experimenting.
Because, again, if you're stuckin a lane where it's just
comedy, for us as a viewingaudience, we find comedy to be
dated sometimes and what happens?
When we watch these movieswe're like, okay, well, that's a
little old, that's a littlechildish, that's this, that,
wherever your preference is nowas an adult versus when you were
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a kid, you're like, oh, how canthey just have, like Boga mills
daughter just come out ofnowhere.
She wasn't in the first movie.
You know we harp on things thatdon't make sense and we don't
shouldn't really care about.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, there's 10 facts and theories we shouldn't
care about.
Care about the storyline Storyas long as they don't change
Bronson Pinchot, that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
And this Beverly Hills Cop, axl F.
I mean this movie is like 20years in the making, maybe even
30 years in the making, to behonest with you, because they've
been trying to do a BenLittle's Cop sequel for so long.
It's funny when we talk aboutEddie Murphy, we get mad about
the sequels that he makes, buteverybody's always asking for a
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sequel.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, and not only that even though we asked for it
.
I feel like he he delivered.
I feel like it's hard to kindof create lightning in a bottle
twice, especially during thattime period, because there's a
lot of stuff that you can't do.
Some of the reasons why we likeeddie murphy is because he said
whatever he wanted and weaccepted it.
(34:25):
And like we didn't like to me,like in my household, like when
my family, when I was growing up, like we looked at any Mercury
was like he was our like howpeople would see a Tom Cruise or
um, um, how people see WillSmith now or um, or the slap and
um.
You know Tom Hanks because hedid so many different movies and
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you he always showed you didn'treally, you didn't really think
about race too much in hismovies.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
You didn't.
He was, yeah, he was somebodywho didn't have, who wasn't.
He was kind of like raceless.
I had this conversation with mywife a couple of times where
and about a black celebrity inthe eighties, whereas if you
think about black celebritieswho were not, uh, let's say,
(35:18):
quote unquote singers, you onlyhad a handful of actors that,
like, were quote unquote sexsymbol celebrities.
You know, know, I'm sayingespecially like eddie murphy's
at the top of that food chain.
Maybe you have him and maybeyou have oj simpson and that gap
was was extreme.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
That's a wide gap that's a wide gap.
Philip michael thomas but likehonestly though, when you really
think about it.
That's so crazy because it'salmost like he was in a in lack
of a better term like theMichael Jackson of like yeah,
(35:58):
Because of the fact that he waskind of poppy in the sense that
he was universal Cause, likethey wouldn't give him those
type of paramount deals If hewere, if he wasn't like a guy
that generated money and like soobviously it wasn't just black
people going to see him, it waseverybody going to see him.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
And let's be honest, if you look at the movies and
I've said this several times ifyou look at the movies in the
80s that were predominantlyblack, let's just say that in
general that had black leads.
I'll say that instead of whatI'm saying.
If you look at the movies thathad black leads in the 80s,
there were not that many.
We were just we're off theheels of the black exploitation
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era in the 70s.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
So when you get to the 80s, they believe hollywood
believes that black people can'tlead films before beverly
Beverly Hills Cop, there hadnever been a movie that would
star a black man, a black person, that was successful all around
the world.
And even still to this day,when black folks we make movies,
most of the time they work inthe States and outside of the
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country they don't work.
But Beverly Hills Cop and NuttyProfessor, I had movies that
have worked all the way aroundthe world.
Coming to america.
You know what beverly hills copstarted it.
It started that the whole.
You know all around the world.
That's where you get, that'swhere you get uh will and uh the
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rock.
They do it now, but beverBeverly Hills Cop is the first
one that did it and this is whyI said that with Eddie Murphy,
because he's number one,colorless Number two.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
He came through Saturday Night Live who was, you
know, kind of in.
They kind of were like at apoint where they were not great
again.
You know what I'm saying.
Like everybody from theoriginal cast left, you know.
Here you have this young kidwho is making fun of race, sex,
um, classism, racism, likeanything you, anything you can
(37:55):
think of.
He's doing it and he'sdifferent and he's funny and
he's fearless and he becomesthis, this, this star, only from
doing the movie with this guy,nick Nolte, who only people know
from North Dallas 40, whichI've never seen the movie.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
The fact that you have that information is amazing
.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
But, like I looked it up one time because I wanted to
know, I wanted to know is NickNolte a big star?
Because, again, when you hearNick Nolte talk about Eddie
doing that movie, he's like, oh,this young guy doing the movie,
and you know, he's just, Idon't know if he can act.
Meanwhile, Nick Nolte is drunk.
(38:43):
Nick Nolte is a drunk.
He drunk right now.
No, but I'm saying like,remember that SNL episode where
Eddie Murphy was like, yeah, youknow, nick Nolte is supposed to
host the show, but he came inwith some vomit on his shirt and
he told me to host the show.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
They said it really didn't that really happen.
It really happened, he wasn'tlying.
He said it'll be a funny thingme to host the show, which they
said it really did not reallyhappen, like he really.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
It really happened, he wasn't lying he said it'll be
a funny thing, you tell him allabout it.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
And he just left when nick got here and got off the
plane he vomited on my shirt.
We realized nick was too sickto do the show and it's too bad
because nick was gonna be insome real great stuff tonight.
But I know you people tune into see one of the stars of 48
Hours host the show and, damn it, you're going to see it because
(39:34):
.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I'm going to host the show Live from New York.
It's the Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Show.
Yeah, I wish I had that luxury.
The funny thing is I didn knowNick Nolte's still blue chips
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I don't think anybody knows Nick Nolte except for
those movies, except for bluechips.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
You know it's and and again, that's.
That's the thing you put him inin that movie with Nick Nolte
and then you're like, okay, well, let's try it again.
Maybe it was just a fluke,right, maybe it was a fluke.
And then they do Trading Places, where you have Dan Aykroyd as
the star, but who ends upstealing the show?
(40:24):
Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
And the funny thing is he's not top billing on
either one of them.
But when you see Eddie Murphy'stop movies, he's the guy and
it's like it's crazy.
It's similar to when we talkabout how Bad Boys 1, martin was
top billing, right, but whateverybody talks about it just
gradually shifted to being WillSmith and Martin now, and it's
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just how it is.
And that's why those who areaspiring comedians and actors it
don't matter what parts you gotyou get an opportunity to kill
it.
Kill that joint, because that'sall Anthony Murphy did.
He just took no prisoners and Ifeel like that Phyllis approach
that um, you know that thatcomes from doing stand-up,
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obviously, but he also watched alot of television, you know,
and that probably played a rolewith, like how he would say,
like he would take bruce lee'seyes and muhammad ali's swag and
all those different and elvis'sswag and all those different
and Elvis's swag and like yousee those things and that's all.
Like you know, just creating atype of person where it's like,
(41:32):
look, I am a star, y'alleventually will catch up and
that's that's dope man.
It's like that's what.
Like Eddie Murphy can teach amasterclass without even saying
a word.
All you gotta do is just watchhis transition through his
movies.
And this is like it just madesense, like you didn't know why
(41:54):
it made sense, it just did Right.
Like yeah, it's just like hejust was.
Just like yeah, he's supposedto be there, cause he, we
believe it.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Right, yeah, and now we're.
We're in a renaissance of eddiemurphy where these movies are
coming out, where the thesequels to movies that people
wanted.
You know what I'm saying?
Because people ask for.
People ask for a sequel tocoming to america, like they ask
for sequels to these movies.
(42:23):
People always ask for anotheraxel foley movie, even though
some of these movies were notthe best you know critically.
But a movie like axel foley,you know, this new beverly hills
cop movie, it's, it's like,it's it's more of.
I want to say it.
(42:43):
It took a good 30-year processbecause it had to Like.
I remember when the pilot forBeverly Hills Cop came out.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
You know, I heard that there was.
You're talking about thetelevision show with Brandon T
Jackson Right with Brandon TJackson and I remember hearing
about it.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I'm like, okay, cool, this is like 2013.
I'm like cool, this is about tobe a Beverly Hills Cop show.
And Eddie Murphy was like, okay, cool, this is like 2013.
I'm like cool, this is about tobe a Beverly Hills Cop show.
And Eddie Murphy was like, okay, I'll be in the first episode,
but I'm not going to be therefor the whole show.
And CBS canned it.
They killed it because theycouldn't get Eddie Murphy to
commit.
Now we've actually seen thepilot for that.
Yeah, and it was a good pilot.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Hands in the air now.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
I know I ground you a couple of times, but damn.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
And I felt like his presence in that first episode
would have definitely solidifiedBrandon T Jackson as a bona
fide star, because he was comingoff of, um, the lottery ticket,
the performance and roll bouncelike he was.
He had it.
He had that it right.
Um, I just felt like he neededthat.
You know that nod.
(43:55):
I felt like I guess he thoughtthat, uh, big mama's house, too,
was going to do that for him.
But uh, you know, that didn'twork out quite well.
But oh yeah, big mamas nah I'mnot knocking it, because people
gotta do what they gotta do.
Look, I don't know if I wouldlook if they pass me a joint, so
I gotta look like raven's phone.
Whatever I, let me ladies buildmy god.
(44:18):
But but you know, I felt like Iguess people um, you know
people panic.
It's easy to trust a thing thatworks.
It's harder to take a chance oncertain things.
But I feel like now, like youwere saying, 30 years later,
with Netflix and all thesethings, where you can have
(44:40):
standalone movies and you canhave stuff for nostalgic
purposes because you knowthere's going to be an audience
for it and you don't have toworry about ticket sales because
it's like people are going tojust click on it.
You know, I mean like if youlove eddie murphy, you're going
to give it a try.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
You want to at least watch it once right and I think
this, I think axel f is actuallygoing to be good, it has to be,
I, I but I think it's like, Idon't think that it's going to
be the funniest Number one, Idon't.
I don't think that it's goingto wow us, but I do think that
the nostalgia factor, kind oflike with a come to America,
(45:17):
like the nostalgia factor wouldsay, would make us say, okay,
this is a decent movie.
You know, it will make us feellike, okay, taggart's in it, I,
rosewood is in it.
Okay, cool, who else is inthere?
Bronson pinchoff, like I don'tknow.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that he's in
it even if it's too second, likethat's all I need, like, and
sometimes you don't got toreinvent the wheel like.
I felt like, um, not to jumparound but coming to coming to
america.
Um, for the most part I likedhow they tied in the story.
I didn't agree with some of thecasting of it.
(45:52):
Um, I felt like they didbecause it was, you know, post
pandemic.
The pandemic was kind oflifting, so I can understand the
limitations with that too.
Um, but I liked how they theyum, made a way for him to
actually have a kid in it.
It would have been believable.
Like how they did that CGIscene of him in the bar and like
(46:13):
the stuff that we know, themovie that we loved about the
movie.
I felt like they did good oathsand nods to the original film.
I felt like, obviously, thelimitations.
It wasn't as grungier Like whenyou go back and watch the
original Coming to.
It wasn't as grungier Like whenyou go back and watch the
original.
Same with the first BeverlyHills cop.
It was like a, like a dirtinessto it.
I felt like by the time theygot the three, the joint, the
(46:35):
streets were like washed.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
It's wonder world.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Detroit felt like it was like.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Oh yeah, detroit yeah .
Speaker 3 (46:44):
It was like mad clean , like they was like was like
you're clearly on the set now,but, like you know, but it's
cool, man.
I'm interested to see howthey're going to tie in,
obviously, all the things weloved about the films but also
just have an original story thatthat will have some replay
value.
(47:04):
I actually don't want it tojust be something that we just
watch one time.
I want to be able to watch itseveral times.
We shot all his old movies.
I can't say coming to America.
As much as I loved it.
I only could watch it oncebecause of the fact that I
didn't want to taint it.
I was okay with the feeling Ifelt after watching it.
(47:26):
I had too much expectation likethis one, like even actual f.
I'm not going to have a lot ofexpectations as long as they
don't crap the bed and drop theball too much, just get in and
get out I don't yeah, I don'tthink that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
However, I do think reality has to set in a little
bit.
Like, if you're like, okay,Taggart is still on the force,
Taggart got to be at leastalmost 80.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Yeah, because he has to be retired or something he
has to be like.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Right.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Billy could be still working, but yeah, they got to
be in an old folks home orsomething I like and eddie was
supposed to be older in thefirst, like you remember.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Well, like you remember, because we were saying
how, uh, sylvester stallone wassupposed to be in the movie and
everybody was casted around assylvester stallone, but they
replaced actors.
The problem was with the storyand the actors.
They, they tried to make Eddieolder.
So it was like you know, eddiehad to be even though Eddie was
(48:35):
21,.
He had to be on the force for alittle while, you know what I
mean.
So he had to be at least 27, 28.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
And, yeah, I can understand that, like, I would
even say like I don't even know,like what his thing would have
been like.
But how was he like, what ishis position in Detroit, or even
if he is on the force or ifhe's a private private?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I would like him to be the inspector, true.
How come he can't be inspector,todd?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
I mean he died in the third one right.
Like I would imagine that wouldmake sense to have him and like
I wouldn't even be mad at them,um, him having guys under him,
that against.
Like eventually they'll spinoff like similar to what they
did with bad boys.
But have you know, bringingthat next iteration, like what
they've tried to do with brandont jackson, but kind of doing it
(49:27):
in a more organic way where youleave like all right, hey,
mercury, axel foley's going intothe sunset, but we got this
next generation of, uh, beverlyhills cop.
If we want to continue thegenre or go to, I don't know,
los angeles cop or orange countycop Orange.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
County cop.
I mean it's, you know.
I would love that.
I would like to see Paul Reiserin this.
I think, that he'd probably bein a position where either he
would be, he could be Todd.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
He could be.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Todd.
He could be expected, todd, youknow, or they could be working
on something deep, deep, deepundercover.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
I feel like he could go into business for himself and
be a private investigator, likehe's retired and just doing his
own thing.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
That could be something too, because I don't
see Eddie being Axl Foley, thelegendary Axl Foley, for so long
.
Because, again, if you're 63right now, you know, and let's
just say you know, let's justage him up for a little while
longer Like you're not going tobe able to do all this stuff.
Like he said it in all hispress conferences that he's been
doing, he's been doing pressfor this movie the past couple
(50:35):
of weeks and he said, like Idon't want to do anything that
Morgan Freeman ain't doing.
No-transcript, yeah, I wouldimagine yeah yeah, some people
(51:00):
in the third one that afro wasgetting little is, uh, his stunt
guy.
I think his name was vernon orsomething like that.
Like it's a guy that looksexactly like eddie murphy.
I gotta find the picture.
I know, I, I know, I know wherethe picture is somewhere, but
there's a guy that is eddiemurphy stunt double and he looks
exactly like eddie murphy yeah,well, you asked me a question
earlier.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
I wanted to know I just wanted to return it back to
you what was one of yourfavorite moments in the original
?
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Well, I would say the Beverly Hills cop as a whole in
the series.
Okay, in Beverly Hills cop one,I think my favorite scene is
and I think probably in all theBeverly Hills cops probably a
strip club, the strip club scenewhere he's, you know, dancing
and and he's he, you know,dancing and and he's he, you
(51:48):
know he got Rosewood andtaggered with him and they're
like they're not really having agreat time, they don't want to
be there and Eddie's like hesees that these guys are casing
the joint and he actually, youknow, does a diversion to stop
the guys and it shows himactually doing police work,
rather than being thrown outwindows and pretending to be
(52:10):
other people.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah, I can see that because it's showing how like he
actually knows what he's doing.
And I felt like that that madeit make sense.
Like you didn't see, like howis this guy going to be a cop?
Like you believe it.
Yeah, like I get that too.
Like I, I liked it because itshowed like all right, yeah,
he's from the inner city, butyou guys have no idea.
(52:33):
Like you have to have a like alook and and then also to to
piggyback off what you're saying, like that kind of showed,
because that later on came backat the end when they kind of had
to dirty up themselves.
Like you have to have some formof grit to really like do some
good in the world and really tryto get these guys, who kind of
(52:53):
got to think like a criminal ina sense, right Because he's
crossing the line throughout thewhole thing, like he's just
literally like breaking intohouses, he's living in places
that he ain't supposed live in.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
I mean, he fractured a couple laws or two, but yeah,
he wasn't always a cop.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
People, ladies and gentlemen, he wasn't always a
cop yeah the crayon they tab latbut it's, it's I.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
I wish they would have called this uh beverly
hills cop old guys, becausethat's that's what it looks like
when I saw it.
There's a clip that they showin the movie on a trailer where
Taggart, rosewood and Axl areall in the car together and I'm
like this just looks like someold guys is putting their badges
(53:39):
back on and going out there andtrying to stop some crime,
because the story of the movieand I don't know all of the
story or all the plot yet, but Ido know that joseph gordon
levitt and um uh, taylor page isuh playing his daughter- okay
oh, um this just in.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
Uh, bronson pinchot is in the movie oh, I kind of
didn't want to know.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
I'll edit it out.
I mean but this is also likelet me just be clear, this is
also IMDb, so you could submitsomebody and not know.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
But I mean I would imagine that he's in there
because I'm sure he wasn'tgetting no perfect stranger
checks, no time.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
So he definitely wasn't.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
I am in my will take checks is going down yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
If I'm not getting any rap, shit checks.
I know he's not getting any, soplease.
Speaker 3 (54:45):
Everybody that's watching or listening, please
like.
I know this is off the cuff,but if you you follow us and you
like what you heard, pleasefollow our social media
platforms.
Please watch the shows that weare on um, please, because that
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Even if you're not watching it,just let it run in the
background yeah you know what'sfunny.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
But what was real funny?
Um, I was watching a.
I was watching a podcast, Ithink it's uh, the host is uh,
maestro, I don't know if youknow him.
He's from the wire.
He played randy on the wire andhe interviews actors.
So he was interviewing an actorfriend of mine and he was
(55:29):
talking about what he gets youknow, recognized for all the
time, and he was in person, wastalking to him.
He was like, nah, I rememberyou, what I remember you from.
This man is thinking snowfall.
Right.
He's thinking, well, you knowjust the snowfall, I'm in LA,
maybe a snowfall.
He goes.
Nah, nah, it was that that show, that that show about the 80s.
(55:51):
It was on the get down.
This fool said, yeah, I don'teven remember doing the get down
and I'm like, damn, I gotta bea working actor like him.
He don't even remember, he don'teven remember the thing that
we're in together, the scene Iwas in with you, man.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Yeah, maybe he was trying to Hollywood.
Who was he in?
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Snowfall he's Big Dion okay, got you the one that
got choked out by jerome yeah,yeah, oh leon, he got choked out
by leon, yeah, yeah yeah, theone that got hit with the bottle
so, overall for this movie,what would you expect for, like
the storyline to be, or whatkind of what would make you say,
(56:38):
okay, I'm, I'm okay with thismovie?
Speaker 3 (56:41):
um, I would say that it would just have to make sense
in the sense of like a reasonwhy he would come back to
Beverly Hills, a reason why hewould have to go looking for
whomever he's looking for, totrack down with, you know, with
(57:01):
the help of his buddies.
I want to see, like as manypeople as they can bring back
that is alive or that is able todo it back.
I want to get that nostalgiafactor Anytime.
I just like seeing Eddie Murphyon my screen.
I watched that Christmas moviehe did.
It was fun.
I forgot what the name of itwas.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
Kenny Kane Lane.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
That was fun and like because of the thing is it's
like Eddie Murphy for me cannever do wrong.
Even Metro Holy man, it doesn'tmatter, he can never do any
wrong for me.
But I like the fact that he hasmovies now where I can watch
with you know my son and educatehim.
(57:48):
For instance, my wife didn'tknow Eddie Mercury other than
his later stuff with Shrek.
She didn't realize that he wason SNL, she didn't realize that
he was a comedian.
I got to relive a lot of thatstuff through her.
And then also now my son gotthis, we watched Candy Cane Land
(58:09):
together.
He loves that movie.
So like just being able to seethose things and like start that
next generation of Eddie Murphyin the next era of a life as
kids, as teens, as young adultsand now, you know, adult adults,
old-ass, nick.
(58:30):
So like now that's funny weclassify them that way yeah, so
I'm looking forward to.
Just like I said, I don't haveany expectations.
As long as they cover thosegrounds, I get to see the actors
that was in the previous movies.
They have some of thethrowbacks from other movies and
the plot is decent.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
I'm OK.
What about you?
I think what I need to see fromthis is them not trying to be
funny.
I think, if you have a goodstory if there could be a funny
quip, cool.
But don't try to like joke meto death like you tried to do
with Beverly Hills, Cop 3.
Because that's not where itcomes from.
(59:15):
We are in a society where wewant our comedy and our movies
grounded.
We want it to be grounded insome sort of reality and we want
we don't want it to be corny.
As long as it doesn't do that,as long as it doesn't suck, I'm
happy Like.
You ain't got to do nothingelse, you just got to just not
make it suck.
(59:35):
I've seen this movie severaltimes.
I know what this movie is goingto do.
Just don't make it suck, youknow, there's a difference
between House Party and HouseParty.
3 and House.
Speaker 4 (59:47):
Party, the remake.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
House Party 4.
And House Party, the remake.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
Oh yeah, there's a way big difference, it's cutting
, it's the biggest difference.
Lord have mercy.
That joint went left super fast.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
It was really bad.
It's the only movie to be outon max one year and then on to
two be the next.
It's the only movie to be outon max one year and then on to
two be the next.
Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
That's crazy, yeah, and then it just got the Animal
House like cover on it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I'm like it was just bad and it's produced by LeBron.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Yeah yeah, I felt weird watching that movie.
I was like what did I?
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
It's not House Party.
It's not House Party, Whateverit is.
It's not the White man Can'tJump remake was better than the
House Party remake.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yeah, if it ain't Wesley and Woody, I couldn't
rock with it.
It was actually no.
Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
If honestly, I wish they didn't call it white man
can't jump, yeah.
But if I watched it, you knowI'd be like yeah, this is just
white man can't jump.
You know what I mean?
Like I can't like you know likeI'm going to have that whole.
You know I'm going to compareit Even if you didn't call.
(01:01:05):
If you didn't call it that I'dbe like, okay, this is a decent
movie, but it's just white mancan't jump, like you know, and
sometimes you run into that.
Like I said, if they call thismovie old guys instead of
Beverly Hills cop probablywouldn't get a lot of people
liking it more than more thannot people liking it more than
(01:01:29):
more than not, but I mean Ithink just the name alone, um,
is going to get eyes on it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
They also did a great job, netflix, by putting older
films of eddie murphy so peoplecan kind of get reacquainted,
and even how people getintroduced to that eddie murphy,
because that's essentially.
He reinvented himself so manytimes, like he went from the
brash, fast talking one tosmooth guy and then he went to
(01:01:57):
more like older characters anddifferent characters and then
now this is with you people and,yeah, you people.
Now this is, you know, with youpeople and yeah, you people,
yeah, you people.
And uh, coming to america, um,this movie like now you see the
more like granddad eddie murphy,but still smooth, like he's not
(01:02:19):
like I he's not old billcosbyby or an old Richard where
they visibly look.
He's a good 63.
He's believable.
He can get himself in decentshape to do a stunt if he needed
to, but obviously he doesn'tneed to.
Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Right, I just don't want him to be the fast-talking
guy, because at 63,.
I don't think you're gettingover on people and trying to be
like is this Victor?
Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
in his office.
Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
If he does that, I'm going to laugh and I'm not even
going to be mad.
If they find a way for him todo that, I would die laughing.
I would be like yo, this is it.
Is this the?
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
guy that wrecked the buffet table.
Imagine that would be hilarioustable Imagine.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
That would be hilarious.
Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I don't mind.
I wouldn't even mind for themto do stuff that happened before
, even if they bring back theother two cops that he threw the
banana in the tailpipe with.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Oh, I would love that .
Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Yeah, this stuff like little throwbacks.
Like I said, you don't gotta OD, just stay the course, Rely on
the nostalgia.
You have a good plot, nothingtoo crazy.
Don't have Kenya Burris Right,did he write it?
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
No, he didn't, he did , I don't know I don't know if
he.
Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
I don't know if he did.
I just like.
He just makes things toocolorful, like they got.
I know he loves blackness.
Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
He did not write it, so that's a good sign yeah yeah,
yeah, that's all I care about.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Like, is this day true the thing?
I wish it was Jerry Brock, I'madding things I mean he produced
the original one but, I, don'tthink that he's producing this
one.
Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
I don't have a production credit for him on
this.
Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Well, it's probably good, because in the movie it
won't be two hours and 30minutes, so that'll be good.
Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Jerry, you gotta put everything in the movie.
It will be a crocodile chewinghim up, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Beijing jokes.
Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Yeah, oh that Jerry.
He just makes Transformermovies the last two days man.
Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
No cameos of Michael Bay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
But all right, man, where can the people find you at
?
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Always and forever.
Hashtag the Fudge Shuffle onall social media platforms,
especially Instagram.
You can also find me on theLast Take, where I'll do the
Kendrick Perkins impression, andalso you can find me at comedy
clubs and shows all around, sotour dates and everything will
be on that page and you know andalso have content.
(01:05:13):
You also can catch me herewhenever you know.
Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Well, we have to have you back on for when the actual
movie comes out.
Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yes, definitely, definitely, when we actually get
.
You know.
Right now this is just a teaser, but you know, definitely once
we see the movie we can dissectit and show what we really like
and compare it with the othermovie.
Yeah, but I mean, look, if youall you gotta do is find the
first shuffle, you find me andyou see my big old head.
Maybe we good All alrightdefinitely alright, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Thank you, and if all hearts and minds are clear,
let's end this show.
I hope my buttons work.
That's not what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Ah, I'm doing it, google yeah, man, hopefully,
hopefully, kick him in the dingdong.
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