July 22, 2024 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of
the Murphy Monday podcast, theonly podcast that celebrates the
life and career of Eddie Murphy.
I'm your host, Nigel AFullerton.
This week I wanted to replay anepisode of my interview with
the SNL nerds.
I did an interview with themlast year surrounding Beverly
(00:20):
Hills Cop.
Not sure if anybody got to hearit, but I'm re airing it on
this platform.
Uh, not all of the episode, butpart of the episode, because I
want to show them some love andjust have fun with my good
friends Darren and John.
Again, not a Murphy Mondaypodcast, it's not.
(00:41):
It is not an episode of theMurphy Monday podcast, it's an
episode of the SNL Nerds and I'mjust giving them some love,
shouting them out in this one.
If you haven't already, pleaselike, share and subscribe, Tell
a Netty Murphy fan to tell aNetty Murphy fan that you love
this podcast and, with allhearts and minds clear, let's
start this show Today from NewJersey.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
it's the SNL Nerds, the show where two comics from
New Jersey nerd out aboutSaturday Night Live.
I'm your co-host, john Trumbull, and I'm your co-host, darren
Patterson.
Hey, darren, how you been.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm doing good.
I've been good, I've done beendoing good.
Yes, yes, you've done beendoing good.
Yes, yeah, yeah, I've beendoing good.
I was a communications major.
Absolutely, you speak english.
Nice, I speak it very well.
Good, nice.
And uh, speaking of which I'mdoing super good.
Well, nice, because we got aguest here in the building.
(01:41):
As they say, as the youngpeople say, folks, our guest
needs no introduction, but I'mgonna give him one because he's
he's a swell dude, great comic,great actor.
He's been in, like, he's beenin so many things.
Uh, roxanne roxanne, if youmight remember, he's been in the
get down.
Uh, who shot biggie and tupac,where he played biggie smalls.
(02:05):
I remember that dude's aphenomenal dude and he's off.
He also has an amazing podcastcalled the the murphy monday
podcast.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys andgirls, give it up for mr nigel
fullerton.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, yeah yeah, that was
Well like I love what you guysdo here.
You know SNL is a hard thing totackle, especially now with the
political climate and all thejokes, but you guys are like,
not just like regular nerds,like you guys are super SNL.
You guys need to keep up forthis.
(02:41):
I'm sorry that was me, that wasme cape for this.
I'm sorry that was me quotingthe movie.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I apologize.
No, I like that.
Thank you so much for that.
That's a beautiful thing yousaid right there, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I love this.
I'm very happy to be here, guys.
I super am.
I am a big fan of SNL.
I do have my gripes with it attimes.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And it's something for me to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But I do like I do.
I'm an actual fan of SaturdayNight Live.
I really am.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, I mean, hey, that gives us a great segue into
our first question that we askof guests when they join us for
the first time Is what is yourSNl origin story?
How did you get into saturdaynight live?
How did you?
How did you get into like eddiemurphy, in particular, what
made you want to do a podcastabout eddie murphy?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
oh, which question do you want?
Which answer do you want?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
first like well, I guess whichever comes first
chronologically all right, so umEddie Murphy.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
My origin story was um the golden child actually.
Oh, yeah, my uncle, me and myuncle used to watch a lot of
movies together, mostly Kung Fumovies, Um, and he was like, oh,
you got to watch this guy.
He's really funny, he's namedEddie Murphy.
So we watched the golden childand I like I was hooked from
then, Um, but it wasn't likeuntil I think, probably around
(04:05):
the nineties, where he was likehitting movies back to back to
back.
Then I'm like I really have tostart watching this guy and I
was enamored by Professor,ironically, just because seeing
him work so many differentcharacters and doing all the
stuff which come to find out.
I didn't know that he was onSaturday Night Live.
Oh, you know when he was on.
I didn't know that he was onSaturday Night Live.
(04:26):
Oh, you know, when he was on Iwas still in diapers, right, so
I really didn't know that he wasLike I had heard.
It wasn't until Saturday NightLive started having these tapes
where, like best of Chris Farley, best of Phil Hartman, best of
Like, every time somebody leftthe cast they would.
(04:47):
Where, like best of chrisfarley, best of, uh, phil
hartman, best of like, everytime somebody left the cast,
they would do a best of.
And they had a best of eddiemurphy right, and I sat there
and I was like, wow, this guy isa great performer.
So I basically started watching.
I've seen most of his moviesnot all of them, but most of
them and I just I was just likeyou know what?
I need to do a podcast.
I need something to talk about,and I hear the way that people
talk about Eddie Murphy and hehad left the limelight a little
(05:10):
bit.
So I was like you know what?
Let me just do this podcast toremind people why they fell in
love with Eddie Murphy in thefirst place.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, cool, cool.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Saturday Night Live came around because, um,
everybody was talking about itin school.
Saturday Night Live came aroundbecause everybody was talking
about it in school.
So I got the 90s run.
So I got, like you know, rightbefore I want to say, around
Dennis Miller, I think I startedwatching.
So like I think, like late 80s,early 90s, like a lot of church
(05:43):
lady sketches, late 80s, early90s, like a lot of church lady
sketches, um, but what reallyhit it home for me was the bad
boys of snl, you know, the chrisfarley's, david spade, the rob
schneider, chris rock, you knowso that's more like the early
90s because, like I think likelike the late 80s was like, that
was more the era I was watching.
So it's more like dana carvey,phil hartman, jen hooks, kevin
(06:05):
nealon and then after that wasthen after that was like, yeah,
so probably around that time Ithink a lot of sketches had had
boiled over into pop culture.
You know, your wayne's world,you know?
Uh, I mentioned church ladybefore um, a lot of hans and
franz.
I remember seeing hans andfranz a lot you know, in pop
culture and was like what is theshow that everybody's watching?
(06:27):
It was Water Cooler Talk.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah.
So, that's where it started.
But then what made me likebecome an actual fan was like I
went back, I would watch thetapes of like the original five
seasons.
But then what really likeinterested me was how does this
show stay on for so long, howdoes this stay funny for so long
(06:50):
, and why did they make so manyweird character changes in all
these different seasons?
You know I went and rewatchedthe Eddie Murphy run.
Uh, I went and rewatched theeighties run of like and I'm
really enamored by like the 1985season, 85, 86 season with like
Robert Downey Jr and like alllike the Breakfast Club people,
(07:11):
oh yeah, and Damon Wayans, yeah,yeah, yeah, which I, which you
know.
When I found out Damon Wayanswas actually on the show, I was
like this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
You see a lot of early in living color skits from
there yeah, there was that onewhere it's like it's damon
wayans and, uh, I think, anthonymichael hall and they play like
these sort of, I guess, likejunkies who are like kind of
selling stuff on the corner.
It's like a very much like, yousee, like the uh, the like the
seeds of um damon wayans antoncharacter that he would use on
(07:44):
In Living Color.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You would see Anton and you would see Homeboy
shopping that work.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
What would really interest me is when they do the
Seinfeld impersonations or likethat.
It's called.
The sketch is called thestand-ups.
Yeah, it's like two or threetimes and like I laugh every
single time because you get adeal with.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, yeah, and it's.
It's kind of amazing that theywere doing that before jerry
seinfeld was nationally known,so it was exactly it was just
kind of this in show because,like, obviously damon wayans
knew him from the stand-upcircuit right, and, and you know
, probably it was him or maybesomebody else in the cast who
like taught him the taught,taught them the Jerry Seinfeld
(08:27):
voice, and like this is the typeof comic that he is, but what's
funny is it's technically notthe Jerry Seinfeld voice, it's
the what every other comic wasdoing at the time.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It just got attributed to Seinfeld too,
cause I'm not sure what I mean.
I don't know why he was chosenout specifically for that, but
like he, it just sounded likehis type of cadence, even though
he really didn't talk like that.
He even said that in interviewslike yeah.
I never said like hey, what'sthe deal with, but like people,
just kind of he did it on theshow.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Seen him do it on Seinfeld.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You know it's funny.
Like most impressions of people, they don't really become Much
about what they actually say.
It's just something you canimagine them saying Like.
I think the the impression ofCary Grant going Judy, judy,
judy.
He never really said that, butit was just Like they picked A
woman's name that he could do,and like william shatner's, like
(09:26):
yeah, I don't, I don't pause asmuch as people say I do.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Or or like yeah, like uh, it's the mandela effect
yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly,and yeah, it's like when, like,
like even dana carvey, like whenyou see his george w bush
impression, like not, and do itLike George W Bush really didn't
talk like that.
Hw, hw, sorry, george.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
HW.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Bush, herbert Walker.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Put some respect on his name, but yeah, like he
didn't really talk like that, itwas like more of an exaggerated
version of how he talked, butpeople just kind of attributed
that to him.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah and then, yeah, like you said, the Mandela
effect.
Everybody just sort of thinksthat's a thing that Bush said.
And no, not really.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It was Dana Carvey doing all those impressions.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Right, but you see that week after week after week,
it just bores itself into yourbrain, right, yeah?
So, okay, well, that's reallyinteresting.
And we decided to have Nigel onthe podcast this week because
we are doing one of the bigEddie Murphy movies, probably
the big Eddie Murphy movie.
This is the one that reallykind of cemented his star status
(10:34):
, I would say, as as 1984 isBeverly Hills cop.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, I know, Okay, Beverly Hills cop came out
December 5th 1984, which is thatalways kind of trips me up
because this screams summerblockbuster movie.
So the fact that this came outin December like kind of it's a
bit of a head scratcher for me.
It was a hot winter.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I wonder if you know, maybe the execs weren't
completely sold on Eddie Murphybecause, like he'd done 48 Hours
and there he's paired with NickNolte.
That's kind of a surprise hitthat made him a star.
And then he does trading placesbut he's paired up with dan
akroyd there.
So maybe you know, here he'slike clearly the lead, so maybe
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he was still considered kind ofuntested as a lead they weren't
yeah, they weren't sold on him.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Ironically, if you look back at his trajectory, uh,
in between trading places andbiblio's cop, you have a movie
called best defense.
Um, and I remember him sayingthis on an episode of saturday
night live uh, I think it's thechristmas episode or close to
christmas.
Uh, he said best defense suckedreally bad.
(11:41):
He thought that his career wasover.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Right.
He said that in the monologuewhen he hosted SNL right.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, he did Nice.
So it's like, it's like wow,like you know, it's like they
really didn't know what they hadand they kept pairing him with
other people, because you cansay, oh, 48 Hours is a hit, oh,
that's because of Nick Nolte,right.
And you can say that TradingPlaces was a hit, well, that's
because Dan Aykroyd he'sSaturday Night Live royalty.
He's an established star JohnLandis, and you know this is the
(12:10):
first vehicle that he had onhis own.
Yes, and he made it, but hewasn't their first pick.
He wasn't.
He wasn't even their 13th pick.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, the, the Genesis of this movie is really
interesting because it started Imean, I, I think the person who
was attached to him for thelongest time was Sylvester
Stallone and he apparentlydropped out of the movie like
two weeks before they weresupposed to start filming, which
is wow.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
That's cutting it close yeah, and I think I saw
somewhere, like on that videothat Nigel sent, like Mickey
Rourke.
Mickey Rourke yeah, was also afascist, but like the movie just
kept getting delayed and he gotirritated by that, so he just
like just bounced and left andEddie kind of like didn't do
(12:56):
ghostbusters to do this moviewow, that's I mean that's pretty
amazing and I mean, inretrospect, certainly the right
choice for him, because heprobably wouldn't have been as
huge if he'd done ghostbusters.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I mean, ghostbusters was a huge movie, but he would
have been the fourth lead inthat movie and this what's funny
, what's, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm sorry to cut you off, but what's funny is that
belial's cop grossed more moneythan ghostbusters yeah, I was
gonna say that, like it had abudget of 13 mil and it grossed
316 mil okay, wow.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So it had to be more profitable than ghostbusters,
because ghostbusters had allthat effects and I think
ghostbusters was something like.
It had to be like 30, 40million, right.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Ghostbusters I'll look it up, but Ghostbusters
made like, I think, 271 millionor something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay, yeah, but I mean Ghostbusters had to have a
bigger budget than 13 milliontheir budget is between 25 and
30 million.
Yeah, okay, okay, and theygrossed $295.2 million.
So neither one was hurting.
We're all doing all right.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And this film was written byDaniel Petri Jr, directed by
Martin Brest, who has someconnections to SNL too.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, I looked it up.
I saw that he's an NYU Philstudent.
He's a native New Yorker andone of his student films
actually aired on SNL.
It was like a film called HotDogs for Gauguin yeah, that's
the name of it which had anunknown actor named Real Perlman
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and another unknown actor namedDanny DeVito.
That was pretty interesting too.
Never heard of them.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
They can't have been any good if they're in a student
film, and they faded intoobscurity after.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Never to be heard from again.
Martin Bress has a prettyinteresting filmography himself
because after this film he wenton to direct Midnight Run with
De Niro and Charles Rodenfilmography himself because
after this film he went on todirect uh, midnight run right
with uh, with uh de niro andcharles roden.
He directed scent of a woman,scent of a woman with pacino,
which was a big oscar hit.
After that he um.
(15:07):
His last two movies were alittle iffy because he directed
Meet Joe Black with Brad Pittand the infamous Gigli with yes,
oh yeah and, as of thisrecording, that is the last film
he ever directed.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Wow, that is the last film?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
yeah, wow, it was.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I remember, like I think, when Ben Affleck hosted
SNL, he did a film about, or hedid a sketch about filming Gigli
, because that just it becameone of those flops that was just
so infamous.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Or why was it a flop?
Can we have you guys seen,Gigli?
No.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I saw it years ago.
It wasn't as bad as people madeit out to be.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It wasn't, but I don't know, but yeah well, I
don't know I think, john, I'lltell you this if I told you that
christopher walken and alpacino were in geely, would you
get?
Would you be like I didn't knowthat, or would you be like,
yeah, that sounds about right, Iwould be?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I would.
I did not know that and I woulddefinitely be more excited to
see the movie.
I, I think, isn't the bigreason that movie flop was
because everybody was sick ofthem as a couple.
Yes, that's the reason why?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, cause it also affected Jersey girl as well,
which came out around the sametime.
And then a fellow says is thewoman that dies?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's one of those things
where it was like at that pointwe were reaching peak J-Lo and
like people were just kind ofgetting a little tired of seeing
her everywhere and so like,yeah, I think you might be right
, nudge, it might have somethingto do with it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay, because it wasn't a bad movie, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I mean it wasn't a great movie, but it wasn't as
yeah.
It wasn't like the horror showpeople made it out to be.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, Okay, All right .
Well, I mean so Martin Brest.
He's had a pretty good career.
I understand he came to thismovie right after he got fired
off of War Games.
I don't know why he got firedoff the movie War Games, but Me
neither.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, I think they reached out to one
a few other directors again.
That video that nigel sent us Ithink they reached out to.
You'll have to post that on thesnl nerds uh twitter account.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I know they reached out toscorsese to direct this, but I
think scorsese said it soundedtoo like close the.
The script of the film soundedtoo close to being like a
(17:34):
Coogan's bluff, right.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, which is a movie where Clint Eastwood plays
like a cowboy who comes to thebig city and and that was kind
of the inspiration of theseventies TV show McCloud with
Dennis.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Weaver.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And then I also heard that, like David Cronenberg was
like in the mix of directors,which that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
That's that David Cronenberg was like in the mixed
directives, which that makes nosense to me.
That's, that's really weird.
I don't know, I guess that'sbefore we had the the David
Cronenberg body horror brand,but that's wow, that's wild,
very much so wild.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, the tone of it wasn'tsupposed to be comedic.
It wasn't supposed to becomedic at all.
It was supposed to be an actionmovie.
Right, right Set in BeverlyHills and I think it was called.
It was called something else.
It wasn't called Beverly HillsCop.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah from war games, his second directing job.
The industry thought he wasdamaged goods.
Dom simpson and jerrybruckheimer disagreed and the
two paramount executivescontinually called breast asking
him to direct this film.
He kept declining andeventually took his phone off
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the hook.
Simpson took the hint, butbruckheimer kept trying.
Finally breast decided to flipa coin to make his decision.
So yeah, sliding doors.
If that coin landed the otherway, he might have not have
directed this film.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Right and supposedly Martin Brest.
He framed the quarter that heflipped.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I don't know why he saved that quarter specifically.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I'm thinking you probably framed a quarter.
I don't know if that was thequarter that you used to flip,
because, like you used to flip,because you flip it and then you
put it aside.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, that quarter is probably in a payphone
somewhere Exactly.
It's a good thing he directedthis film because, according to
IMDB, this was 1984's secondhighest grossing film worldwide,
right after another film we didon this podcast Indiana Jones
and the Temple of Doom.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, they're not beating that.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that scans.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Absolutely All right.
So yeah, let's get into it.
Let's talk about this film.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You know like starting the movie out, opening
credits.
The thing that really struck mewas it said you know like
starting movie out, uh, openingcredits I.
The thing that really struck mewas it said you know, paramount
pictures presents inassociation with Eddie Murphy
productions, and I was like wowhe had his own production
company already.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That I did not know.
That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Because he signed a contract with Paramount.
So if you look at most of themovies that Eddie Murphy has
done in his career, they'vemostly been with Paramount and
it's a deal that he had in theeighties.
I don't know if it was beforeBivlio's cop or afterwards, but
I do know that it was like thebiggest deal that an African
American has ever had inHollywood and it was for a whole
(20:29):
bunch of pictures whichincluded um coming to America, I
think golden child, I think awhole bunch of pictures which
included um coming to America, Ithink golden child, I think uh.
Whole bunch of movies that hedid and a lot, of, a lot of
movies that he had to do like hewas contractually obligated to
do, like a sequel for uh, for um, not Billy, yeah, it was a
sequel for Beverly Hills cop andum for 48 hours.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh yeah, another 48 hours.
Right, I know, I know, like Iknow, he had that deal with
Paramount in the eightiesbecause at one point Eddie
Murphy was discussed on doingStar Trek for the one where they
travel back in time to the1980s and Eddie Murphy was going
to be the person that they metand was running around the film
with them.
And I think the big reason thatdidn't happen was because, like
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, star Trek was with Paramountand Eddie Murphy was with
Paramount and some of theParamount execs got kind of
nervous about it.
They were like, why should weput our two big cash cows
together?
That doesn't necessarily meanwe're going to make double the
money.
We could just be splitting ourprofits.
It'd be better to do an EddieMurphy movie and then a Star
Trek movie and then you know,those will probably both be hits
(21:35):
, and so that's kind of why thatdidn't happen.
But, but it's a real interestingwhat if in the in the history
of the Star Trek movies, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
What would he have played?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
He was going to play like.
He was going to play like a.
He was going to play like aschool teacher who, you know,
they come back to the 20thcentury to get the humpback
whales.
And he was going to be a schoolteacher who was playing
humpback whale songs in hisclass and the Enterprise crew
would pick up on that.
Okay, and then, after likeseveral rewrites, it became the
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whale oceanographer characterthat Catherine Hicks played.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So quite different.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean you can't really point to the movie and
say, oh, that's the part thatAndy Murphy was going to play,
because they changed the storyaround so much after he wasn't
attached anymore.
But it obviously would havebeen.
He would have had more comedicthings to do in that.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Oh, wow, yeah, Okay, all right, interesting,
interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So yeah.
So I was just surprised.
I was like wow, that's a realindicator of how big, how fast
he got, was he had his ownproduction company already on
his fourth movie yeah, I waslike yeah, yeah, making moves
out here yeah, but he onlyproduced a couple of projects.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I believe, uh, it was coming to america, harlem
nights and a couple other things.
He also produced tv as well,where, uh, there was a couple tv
shows that he did.
There was one with red fox anddella reese that was on cbs.
However, it only did 13episodes and that's mainly
because red fox died in theprocess of them filming it oh
(23:23):
yeah, I remember that show.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I vaguely remember that.
Yeah, what was it called?
Do you remember the name?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
it was called, uh, the royal family.
Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, that'swhat it was called, yeah because
like people really like, yes,yeah yeah, that's what it was
called.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, because people really liked Della Reese and Red
Fox back and forth in HarlemNights so they were like, oh,
this should be like a TV show orsomething right.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, there was also a pilot for Coming to America
that starred a very young TommyDavidson.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yes, I remember that too.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
We talked about that on the Coming to America episode
.
I think we watched that, or wewatched part of that, and it was
weird.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
See for this.
I should have showed you guysthe um the pilot for um Beverly
Hills cop.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I didn't know there was one.
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It actually surfaced, uh, not too long ago on YouTube
.
It it came out probably in 2013.
They, they shot it.
It was with Brandon T Jacksonas the son of axel foley, and
eddie murphy's in the familiar.
Yeah, okay eddie murphy's inthe pilot.
But you know, I don't thinkeddie wanted to do it every
single week, so he was like,yeah, yeah, I'll do it, I'll put
(24:27):
on the jacket.
You know, one one last time.
And judge reinhold was on thereas the mayor of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Oh, that's cute.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, it was a lot of stuff, but what happened was
Eddie Murphy didn't want to doit every single day, so
Paramount was like okay, well,let's try to make a Beverly
Hills Cop 4.
And that didn't happen untilthis year.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Oh yeah, I remember that Wow, wow, wow, yeah, I
remember that, wow, wow, wow,yeah, I remember that, I
remember all of that.
Uh, yeah, I mean.
Well, I mean, as far as thismovie goes, like I I really got
a kick out of like in the verybeginning.
We get like a this really big,crazy like car chase scene with
like, uh, the cars and a 16wheeler full of cigarettes, yeah
(25:17):
, just smashing through carswhile a neutron dance plays in
the background that's.
It's such a quintessential 1980ssong you know because it's just
(25:37):
the movie starts with, the heatis on and then it goes into the
neutron dance.
Already, huge goofy smile on myface.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I go, go for it, john the, the soundtrack of this
movie just was omnipresent inthe 80s.
I remember yeah the heat is onwas a big hit.
Neutron dance was in the top 40axel f was a big hit.
Yeah, yeah so I mean thissoundtrack did very, very well I
think that was a tempo for uh80s movies.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't know if you ever realize this, but the the
bulk of the songs that we allknow and love are from the 80s
and that's because it's in allof our pop culture.
Like, if you look at the moviesthat were popular, know and
love are from the 80s, andthat's because it's in all of
our pop culture.
Like, if you look at the moviesthat were popular at the time,
you look at the back to thefutures, you look at the ferris
wheelers, you look at everything, uh, breakfast.
Like there's movies, likethere's a song attached to every
single movie that you've everseen in the 80s, and that's why
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we remember these songs so.
Like, when we talk about theneutron dance, we it
automatically puts us to thescene that happens in Beverly
Hills Cop and it's it's atestament to the MTV generation
that we saw happening at thesame time.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, as far as this movie goes, I
mean it's the actual Foley themeis I mean that was another song
, that was just.
It's like it's just ainstrumental keyboard electronic
song.
It's just an instrumentalkeyboard electronic song, but I
remember hearing this on theradio a lot that Harold Falkmire
score.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I remember that it was just like what is this music
from the future?
What is a science fiction?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
music.
You know what's funny?
The song was so popular thatthey actually asked this guy to
be on top of the pops to perform.
He looks so uncomfortableplaying the music.
He doesn't sing or anythinglike that.
He's just playing the keyboardand everybody's dancing around
him and he just looks souncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
That's so funny.
I prefer just playing mykeyboard in the solitude of my
room.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Don't bump the table.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh wow, yeah it's just, and you know, the other
thing that struck me about thisopening sequence was okay, we
got this, we got 48 hours and wehave trading places.
They all open with Eddie Murphyin trouble with the cops.
Yep.
And I was like that's how youjust open a open with Eddie
Murphy in trouble with the cops.
That's how you just open amovie with Eddie Murphy in the
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1980s.
You just have him in troublewith the cops.
I guess that's why Best Defensedidn't work out so well,
because I'm guessing he doesn'tget arrested at the beginning of
that movie.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, no, it's definitely more is the reason
why Best Defense didn't work.
That's another subject foranother day, right?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
the reason why best defense didn't work right.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Well, that's another subject for another day.
But I do think that movies likebelial's cop in 48 hours I
think it introduced a differentkind of genre yeah, um and it's
a lot of action comedy exactly.
We didn't have action comedies.
We had movies that were likeeither it was death wish or it
was something like ClintEastwood coming up like Coogan's
(28:33):
Bluff, like we never hadsomebody and every black man
that was on tv.
They were serious.
You know, richard Roundtree wasserious um, like there was a
lot of people, so you didn'treally have that, especially
coming from this guy who's likesuper young you know he's 23
years old when he shoots this umand like he's just wisecracking
(28:55):
and fast talking to the pointwhere he introduced a lot of
other people trying to recreatebevelio's cop.
You have a lot of movies in the80s, especially 80s, where like
whoopi goldberg is thefast-talking wisecracking uh
person in um jumping jack flasha burglar or whatever other
movie they were trying to do.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Even you know a movie that we did like about a year
ago on the podcast we did,running Scared, and that movie
wouldn't have been greenlitwithout Beverly Hills Cop, I'm
sure.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, because I mean, and you know, hollywood doesn't
really make action comedieslike this anymore, and it's a
shame, because it's a fun genre.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I think the last couple ones they did was let's
Be Cops and the.
Other Guys.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The Other Guys by.
Will Ferrell, I never saw let'sBe Cops, but I like the Other
Guys.
We have covered the Other Guyson the podcast.
Yeah, that's a fun movie.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I guess we don't have to go through this movie beat
by beat.
We can just kind of give sortof we can go around.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
But I will say in the beginning of this movie that
man's red leather pants thathe's wearing.
He's wearing a cowboy hat, redleather pants and some cowboy
boots.
If that is in Detroit, I don'tknow what is.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I've never been, but it sounds like a benefit.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It seems like Detroit .
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It sounds like the place that RoboCop has to shoot
up.
That's all I'm saying 100%.
Thank you for listening.
If you want to hear the fullepisode, you can go to
nonproductivecom.
Go to the SNL nerds, episodenumber two, 43, on Beverly Hills
cop.
That's where you will hear meand the SNL nerds break down the
(30:42):
movie Beverly Hills cop.
Uh, have not done the movie yeton this podcast, but hopefully
soon.
Uh, we have a lot of othermovies to get through.
We have Eddie Murphy Raw, wehave Shrek, Harlem Nights and a
movie that I never talk aboutbut I always bring it up in
conversation Best Defense.
(31:02):
So, please, people, stay tuned.
We'll definitely have more foryou.
With all hearts and minds clear, let's end this show.
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of
the Murphy Monday podcast, theonly podcast that celebrates the
life and career of Eddie Murphy.
I'm your host, Nigel AFullerton.
This week I wanted to replay anepisode of my interview with
the SNL nerds.
I did an interview with themlast year surrounding Beverly
(00:20):
Hills Cop.
Not sure if anybody got to hearit, but I'm re airing it on
this platform.
Uh, not all of the episode, butpart of the episode, because I
want to show them some love andjust have fun with my good
friends Darren and John.
Again, not a Murphy Mondaypodcast, it's not.
(00:41):
It is not an episode of theMurphy Monday podcast, it's an
episode of the SNL Nerds and I'mjust giving them some love,
shouting them out in this one.
If you haven't already, pleaselike, share and subscribe, Tell
a Netty Murphy fan to tell aNetty Murphy fan that you love
this podcast and, with allhearts and minds clear, let's
start this show Today from NewJersey.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
it's the SNL Nerds, the show where two comics from
New Jersey nerd out aboutSaturday Night Live.
I'm your co-host, john Trumbull, and I'm your co-host, darren
Patterson.
Hey, darren, how you been.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm doing good.
I've been good, I've done beendoing good.
Yes, yes, you've done beendoing good.
Yes, yeah, yeah, I've beendoing good.
I was a communications major.
Absolutely, you speak english.
Nice, I speak it very well.
Good, nice.
And uh, speaking of which I'mdoing super good.
Well, nice, because we got aguest here in the building.
(01:41):
As they say, as the youngpeople say, folks, our guest
needs no introduction, but I'mgonna give him one because he's
he's a swell dude, great comic,great actor.
He's been in, like, he's beenin so many things.
Uh, roxanne roxanne, if youmight remember, he's been in the
get down.
Uh, who shot biggie and tupac,where he played biggie smalls.
(02:05):
I remember that dude's aphenomenal dude and he's off.
He also has an amazing podcastcalled the the murphy monday
podcast.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys andgirls, give it up for mr nigel
fullerton.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, yeah yeah, that was
Well like I love what you guysdo here.
You know SNL is a hard thing totackle, especially now with the
political climate and all thejokes, but you guys are like,
not just like regular nerds,like you guys are super SNL.
You guys need to keep up forthis.
(02:41):
I'm sorry that was me, that wasme cape for this.
I'm sorry that was me quotingthe movie.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I apologize.
No, I like that.
Thank you so much for that.
That's a beautiful thing yousaid right there, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I love this.
I'm very happy to be here, guys.
I super am.
I am a big fan of SNL.
I do have my gripes with it attimes.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And it's something for me to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But I do like I do.
I'm an actual fan of SaturdayNight Live.
I really am.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, I mean, hey, that gives us a great segue into
our first question that we askof guests when they join us for
the first time Is what is yourSNl origin story?
How did you get into saturdaynight live?
How did you?
How did you get into like eddiemurphy, in particular, what
made you want to do a podcastabout eddie murphy?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
oh, which question do you want?
Which answer do you want?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
first like well, I guess whichever comes first
chronologically all right, so umEddie Murphy.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
My origin story was um the golden child actually.
Oh, yeah, my uncle, me and myuncle used to watch a lot of
movies together, mostly Kung Fumovies, Um, and he was like, oh,
you got to watch this guy.
He's really funny, he's namedEddie Murphy.
So we watched the golden childand I like I was hooked from
then, Um, but it wasn't likeuntil I think, probably around
(04:05):
the nineties, where he was likehitting movies back to back to
back.
Then I'm like I really have tostart watching this guy and I
was enamored by Professor,ironically, just because seeing
him work so many differentcharacters and doing all the
stuff which come to find out.
I didn't know that he was onSaturday Night Live.
Oh, you know when he was on.
I didn't know that he was onSaturday Night Live.
(04:26):
Oh, you know, when he was on Iwas still in diapers, right, so
I really didn't know that he wasLike I had heard.
It wasn't until Saturday NightLive started having these tapes
where, like best of Chris Farley, best of Phil Hartman, best of
Like, every time somebody leftthe cast they would.
(04:47):
Where, like best of chrisfarley, best of, uh, phil
hartman, best of like, everytime somebody left the cast,
they would do a best of.
And they had a best of eddiemurphy right, and I sat there
and I was like, wow, this guy isa great performer.
So I basically started watching.
I've seen most of his moviesnot all of them, but most of
them and I just I was just likeyou know what?
I need to do a podcast.
I need something to talk about,and I hear the way that people
talk about Eddie Murphy and hehad left the limelight a little
(05:10):
bit.
So I was like you know what?
Let me just do this podcast toremind people why they fell in
love with Eddie Murphy in thefirst place.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, cool, cool.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Saturday Night Live came around because, um,
everybody was talking about itin school.
Saturday Night Live came aroundbecause everybody was talking
about it in school.
So I got the 90s run.
So I got, like you know, rightbefore I want to say, around
Dennis Miller, I think I startedwatching.
So like I think, like late 80s,early 90s, like a lot of church
(05:43):
lady sketches, late 80s, early90s, like a lot of church lady
sketches, um, but what reallyhit it home for me was the bad
boys of snl, you know, the chrisfarley's, david spade, the rob
schneider, chris rock, you knowso that's more like the early
90s because, like I think likelike the late 80s was like, that
was more the era I was watching.
So it's more like dana carvey,phil hartman, jen hooks, kevin
(06:05):
nealon and then after that wasthen after that was like, yeah,
so probably around that time Ithink a lot of sketches had had
boiled over into pop culture.
You know, your wayne's world,you know?
Uh, I mentioned church ladybefore um, a lot of hans and
franz.
I remember seeing hans andfranz a lot you know, in pop
culture and was like what is theshow that everybody's watching?
(06:27):
It was Water Cooler Talk.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah.
So, that's where it started.
But then what made me likebecome an actual fan was like I
went back, I would watch thetapes of like the original five
seasons.
But then what really likeinterested me was how does this
show stay on for so long, howdoes this stay funny for so long
(06:50):
, and why did they make so manyweird character changes in all
these different seasons?
You know I went and rewatchedthe Eddie Murphy run.
Uh, I went and rewatched theeighties run of like and I'm
really enamored by like the 1985season, 85, 86 season with like
Robert Downey Jr and like alllike the Breakfast Club people,
(07:11):
oh yeah, and Damon Wayans, yeah,yeah, yeah, which I, which you
know.
When I found out Damon Wayanswas actually on the show, I was
like this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
You see a lot of early in living color skits from
there yeah, there was that onewhere it's like it's damon
wayans and, uh, I think, anthonymichael hall and they play like
these sort of, I guess, likejunkies who are like kind of
selling stuff on the corner.
It's like a very much like, yousee, like the uh, the like the
seeds of um damon wayans antoncharacter that he would use on
(07:44):
In Living Color.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You would see Anton and you would see Homeboy
shopping that work.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
What would really interest me is when they do the
Seinfeld impersonations or likethat.
It's called.
The sketch is called thestand-ups.
Yeah, it's like two or threetimes and like I laugh every
single time because you get adeal with.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, yeah, and it's.
It's kind of amazing that theywere doing that before jerry
seinfeld was nationally known,so it was exactly it was just
kind of this in show because,like, obviously damon wayans
knew him from the stand-upcircuit right, and, and you know
, probably it was him or maybesomebody else in the cast who
like taught him the taught,taught them the Jerry Seinfeld
(08:27):
voice, and like this is the typeof comic that he is, but what's
funny is it's technically notthe Jerry Seinfeld voice, it's
the what every other comic wasdoing at the time.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It just got attributed to Seinfeld too,
cause I'm not sure what I mean.
I don't know why he was chosenout specifically for that, but
like he, it just sounded likehis type of cadence, even though
he really didn't talk like that.
He even said that in interviewslike yeah.
I never said like hey, what'sthe deal with, but like people,
just kind of he did it on theshow.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Seen him do it on Seinfeld.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You know it's funny.
Like most impressions of people, they don't really become Much
about what they actually say.
It's just something you canimagine them saying Like.
I think the the impression ofCary Grant going Judy, judy,
judy.
He never really said that, butit was just Like they picked A
woman's name that he could do,and like william shatner's, like
(09:26):
yeah, I don't, I don't pause asmuch as people say I do.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Or or like yeah, like uh, it's the mandela effect
yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly,and yeah, it's like when, like,
like even dana carvey, like whenyou see his george w bush
impression, like not, and do itLike George W Bush really didn't
talk like that.
Hw, hw, sorry, george.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
HW.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Bush, herbert Walker.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Put some respect on his name, but yeah, like he
didn't really talk like that, itwas like more of an exaggerated
version of how he talked, butpeople just kind of attributed
that to him.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah and then, yeah, like you said, the Mandela
effect.
Everybody just sort of thinksthat's a thing that Bush said.
And no, not really.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It was Dana Carvey doing all those impressions.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Right, but you see that week after week after week,
it just bores itself into yourbrain, right, yeah?
So, okay, well, that's reallyinteresting.
And we decided to have Nigel onthe podcast this week because
we are doing one of the bigEddie Murphy movies, probably
the big Eddie Murphy movie.
This is the one that reallykind of cemented his star status
(10:34):
, I would say, as as 1984 isBeverly Hills cop.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, I know, Okay, Beverly Hills cop came out
December 5th 1984, which is thatalways kind of trips me up
because this screams summerblockbuster movie.
So the fact that this came outin December like kind of it's a
bit of a head scratcher for me.
It was a hot winter.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I wonder if you know, maybe the execs weren't
completely sold on Eddie Murphybecause, like he'd done 48 Hours
and there he's paired with NickNolte.
That's kind of a surprise hitthat made him a star.
And then he does trading placesbut he's paired up with dan
akroyd there.
So maybe you know, here he'slike clearly the lead, so maybe
(11:16):
he was still considered kind ofuntested as a lead they weren't
yeah, they weren't sold on him.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Ironically, if you look back at his trajectory, uh,
in between trading places andbiblio's cop, you have a movie
called best defense.
Um, and I remember him sayingthis on an episode of saturday
night live uh, I think it's thechristmas episode or close to
christmas.
Uh, he said best defense suckedreally bad.
(11:41):
He thought that his career wasover.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Right.
He said that in the monologuewhen he hosted SNL right.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, he did Nice.
So it's like, it's like wow,like you know, it's like they
really didn't know what they hadand they kept pairing him with
other people, because you cansay, oh, 48 Hours is a hit, oh,
that's because of Nick Nolte,right.
And you can say that TradingPlaces was a hit, well, that's
because Dan Aykroyd he'sSaturday Night Live royalty.
He's an established star JohnLandis, and you know this is the
(12:10):
first vehicle that he had onhis own.
Yes, and he made it, but hewasn't their first pick.
He wasn't.
He wasn't even their 13th pick.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, the, the Genesis of this movie is really
interesting because it started Imean, I, I think the person who
was attached to him for thelongest time was Sylvester
Stallone and he apparentlydropped out of the movie like
two weeks before they weresupposed to start filming, which
is wow.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
That's cutting it close yeah, and I think I saw
somewhere, like on that videothat Nigel sent, like Mickey
Rourke.
Mickey Rourke yeah, was also afascist, but like the movie just
kept getting delayed and he gotirritated by that, so he just
like just bounced and left andEddie kind of like didn't do
(12:56):
ghostbusters to do this moviewow, that's I mean that's pretty
amazing and I mean, inretrospect, certainly the right
choice for him, because heprobably wouldn't have been as
huge if he'd done ghostbusters.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I mean, ghostbusters was a huge movie, but he would
have been the fourth lead inthat movie and this what's funny
, what's, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm sorry to cut you off, but what's funny is that
belial's cop grossed more moneythan ghostbusters yeah, I was
gonna say that, like it had abudget of 13 mil and it grossed
316 mil okay, wow.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So it had to be more profitable than ghostbusters,
because ghostbusters had allthat effects and I think
ghostbusters was something like.
It had to be like 30, 40million, right.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Ghostbusters I'll look it up, but Ghostbusters
made like, I think, 271 millionor something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay, yeah, but I mean Ghostbusters had to have a
bigger budget than 13 milliontheir budget is between 25 and
30 million.
Yeah, okay, okay, and theygrossed $295.2 million.
So neither one was hurting.
We're all doing all right.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And this film was written byDaniel Petri Jr, directed by
Martin Brest, who has someconnections to SNL too.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, I looked it up.
I saw that he's an NYU Philstudent.
He's a native New Yorker andone of his student films
actually aired on SNL.
It was like a film called HotDogs for Gauguin yeah, that's
the name of it which had anunknown actor named Real Perlman
(14:34):
and another unknown actor namedDanny DeVito.
That was pretty interesting too.
Never heard of them.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
They can't have been any good if they're in a student
film, and they faded intoobscurity after.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Never to be heard from again.
Martin Bress has a prettyinteresting filmography himself
because after this film he wenton to direct Midnight Run with
De Niro and Charles Rodenfilmography himself because
after this film he went on todirect uh, midnight run right
with uh, with uh de niro andcharles roden.
He directed scent of a woman,scent of a woman with pacino,
which was a big oscar hit.
After that he um.
(15:07):
His last two movies were alittle iffy because he directed
Meet Joe Black with Brad Pittand the infamous Gigli with yes,
oh yeah and, as of thisrecording, that is the last film
he ever directed.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Wow, that is the last film?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
yeah, wow, it was.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I remember, like I think, when Ben Affleck hosted
SNL, he did a film about, or hedid a sketch about filming Gigli
, because that just it becameone of those flops that was just
so infamous.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Or why was it a flop?
Can we have you guys seen,Gigli?
No.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I saw it years ago.
It wasn't as bad as people madeit out to be.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It wasn't, but I don't know, but yeah well, I
don't know I think, john, I'lltell you this if I told you that
christopher walken and alpacino were in geely, would you
get?
Would you be like I didn't knowthat, or would you be like,
yeah, that sounds about right, Iwould be?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I would.
I did not know that and I woulddefinitely be more excited to
see the movie.
I, I think, isn't the bigreason that movie flop was
because everybody was sick ofthem as a couple.
Yes, that's the reason why?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, cause it also affected Jersey girl as well,
which came out around the sametime.
And then a fellow says is thewoman that dies?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's one of those things
where it was like at that pointwe were reaching peak J-Lo and
like people were just kind ofgetting a little tired of seeing
her everywhere and so like,yeah, I think you might be right
, nudge, it might have somethingto do with it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Okay, because it wasn't a bad movie, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I mean it wasn't a great movie, but it wasn't as
yeah.
It wasn't like the horror showpeople made it out to be.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, Okay, All right .
Well, I mean so Martin Brest.
He's had a pretty good career.
I understand he came to thismovie right after he got fired
off of War Games.
I don't know why he got firedoff the movie War Games, but Me
neither.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, I think they reached out to one
a few other directors again.
That video that nigel sent us Ithink they reached out to.
You'll have to post that on thesnl nerds uh twitter account.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I know they reached out toscorsese to direct this, but I
think scorsese said it soundedtoo like close the.
The script of the film soundedtoo close to being like a
(17:34):
Coogan's bluff, right.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, which is a movie where Clint Eastwood plays
like a cowboy who comes to thebig city and and that was kind
of the inspiration of theseventies TV show McCloud with
Dennis.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Weaver.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And then I also heard that, like David Cronenberg was
like in the mix of directors,which that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
That's that David Cronenberg was like in the mixed
directives, which that makes nosense to me.
That's, that's really weird.
I don't know, I guess that'sbefore we had the the David
Cronenberg body horror brand,but that's wow, that's wild,
very much so wild.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, the tone of it wasn'tsupposed to be comedic.
It wasn't supposed to becomedic at all.
It was supposed to be an actionmovie.
Right, right Set in BeverlyHills and I think it was called.
It was called something else.
It wasn't called Beverly HillsCop.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah from war games, his second directing job.
The industry thought he wasdamaged goods.
Dom simpson and jerrybruckheimer disagreed and the
two paramount executivescontinually called breast asking
him to direct this film.
He kept declining andeventually took his phone off
(18:44):
the hook.
Simpson took the hint, butbruckheimer kept trying.
Finally breast decided to flipa coin to make his decision.
So yeah, sliding doors.
If that coin landed the otherway, he might have not have
directed this film.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Right and supposedly Martin Brest.
He framed the quarter that heflipped.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I don't know why he saved that quarter specifically.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I'm thinking you probably framed a quarter.
I don't know if that was thequarter that you used to flip,
because, like you used to flip,because you flip it and then you
put it aside.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, that quarter is probably in a payphone
somewhere Exactly.
It's a good thing he directedthis film because, according to
IMDB, this was 1984's secondhighest grossing film worldwide,
right after another film we didon this podcast Indiana Jones
and the Temple of Doom.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, they're not beating that.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that scans.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Absolutely All right.
So yeah, let's get into it.
Let's talk about this film.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You know like starting the movie out, opening
credits.
The thing that really struck mewas it said you know like
starting movie out, uh, openingcredits I.
The thing that really struck mewas it said you know, paramount
pictures presents inassociation with Eddie Murphy
productions, and I was like wowhe had his own production
company already.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That I did not know.
That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Because he signed a contract with Paramount.
So if you look at most of themovies that Eddie Murphy has
done in his career, they'vemostly been with Paramount and
it's a deal that he had in theeighties.
I don't know if it was beforeBivlio's cop or afterwards, but
I do know that it was like thebiggest deal that an African
American has ever had inHollywood and it was for a whole
(20:29):
bunch of pictures whichincluded um coming to America, I
think golden child, I think awhole bunch of pictures which
included um coming to America, Ithink golden child, I think uh.
Whole bunch of movies that hedid and a lot, of, a lot of
movies that he had to do like hewas contractually obligated to
do, like a sequel for uh, for um, not Billy, yeah, it was a
sequel for Beverly Hills cop andum for 48 hours.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh yeah, another 48 hours.
Right, I know, I know, like Iknow, he had that deal with
Paramount in the eightiesbecause at one point Eddie
Murphy was discussed on doingStar Trek for the one where they
travel back in time to the1980s and Eddie Murphy was going
to be the person that they metand was running around the film
with them.
And I think the big reason thatdidn't happen was because, like
(21:14):
, star Trek was with Paramountand Eddie Murphy was with
Paramount and some of theParamount execs got kind of
nervous about it.
They were like, why should weput our two big cash cows
together?
That doesn't necessarily meanwe're going to make double the
money.
We could just be splitting ourprofits.
It'd be better to do an EddieMurphy movie and then a Star
Trek movie and then you know,those will probably both be hits
(21:35):
, and so that's kind of why thatdidn't happen.
But, but it's a real interestingwhat if in the in the history
of the Star Trek movies, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
What would he have played?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
He was going to play like.
He was going to play like a.
He was going to play like aschool teacher who, you know,
they come back to the 20thcentury to get the humpback
whales.
And he was going to be a schoolteacher who was playing
humpback whale songs in hisclass and the Enterprise crew
would pick up on that.
Okay, and then, after likeseveral rewrites, it became the
(22:12):
whale oceanographer characterthat Catherine Hicks played.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So quite different.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean you can't really point to the movie and
say, oh, that's the part thatAndy Murphy was going to play,
because they changed the storyaround so much after he wasn't
attached anymore.
But it obviously would havebeen.
He would have had more comedicthings to do in that.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Oh, wow, yeah, Okay, all right, interesting,
interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
So yeah.
So I was just surprised.
I was like wow, that's a realindicator of how big, how fast
he got, was he had his ownproduction company already on
his fourth movie yeah, I waslike yeah, yeah, making moves
out here yeah, but he onlyproduced a couple of projects.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I believe, uh, it was coming to america, harlem
nights and a couple other things.
He also produced tv as well,where, uh, there was a couple tv
shows that he did.
There was one with red fox anddella reese that was on cbs.
However, it only did 13episodes and that's mainly
because red fox died in theprocess of them filming it oh
(23:23):
yeah, I remember that show.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I vaguely remember that.
Yeah, what was it called?
Do you remember the name?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
it was called, uh, the royal family.
Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, that'swhat it was called, yeah because
like people really like, yes,yeah yeah, that's what it was
called.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, because people really liked Della Reese and Red
Fox back and forth in HarlemNights so they were like, oh,
this should be like a TV show orsomething right.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, there was also a pilot for Coming to America
that starred a very young TommyDavidson.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yes, I remember that too.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
We talked about that on the Coming to America episode
.
I think we watched that, or wewatched part of that, and it was
weird.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
See for this.
I should have showed you guysthe um the pilot for um Beverly
Hills cop.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I didn't know there was one.
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
It actually surfaced, uh, not too long ago on YouTube
.
It it came out probably in 2013.
They, they shot it.
It was with Brandon T Jacksonas the son of axel foley, and
eddie murphy's in the familiar.
Yeah, okay eddie murphy's inthe pilot.
But you know, I don't thinkeddie wanted to do it every
single week, so he was like,yeah, yeah, I'll do it, I'll put
(24:27):
on the jacket.
You know, one one last time.
And judge reinhold was on thereas the mayor of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Oh, that's cute.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, it was a lot of stuff, but what happened was
Eddie Murphy didn't want to doit every single day, so
Paramount was like okay, well,let's try to make a Beverly
Hills Cop 4.
And that didn't happen untilthis year.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Oh yeah, I remember that Wow, wow, wow, yeah, I
remember that, wow, wow, wow,yeah, I remember that, I
remember all of that.
Uh, yeah, I mean.
Well, I mean, as far as thismovie goes, like I I really got
a kick out of like in the verybeginning.
We get like a this really big,crazy like car chase scene with
like, uh, the cars and a 16wheeler full of cigarettes, yeah
(25:17):
, just smashing through carswhile a neutron dance plays in
the background that's.
It's such a quintessential 1980ssong you know because it's just
(25:37):
the movie starts with, the heatis on and then it goes into the
neutron dance.
Already, huge goofy smile on myface.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I go, go for it, john the, the soundtrack of this
movie just was omnipresent inthe 80s.
I remember yeah the heat is onwas a big hit.
Neutron dance was in the top 40axel f was a big hit.
Yeah, yeah so I mean thissoundtrack did very, very well I
think that was a tempo for uh80s movies.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't know if you ever realize this, but the the
bulk of the songs that we allknow and love are from the 80s
and that's because it's in allof our pop culture.
Like, if you look at the moviesthat were popular, know and
love are from the 80s, andthat's because it's in all of
our pop culture.
Like, if you look at the moviesthat were popular at the time,
you look at the back to thefutures, you look at the ferris
wheelers, you look at everything, uh, breakfast.
Like there's movies, likethere's a song attached to every
single movie that you've everseen in the 80s, and that's why
(26:27):
we remember these songs so.
Like, when we talk about theneutron dance, we it
automatically puts us to thescene that happens in Beverly
Hills Cop and it's it's atestament to the MTV generation
that we saw happening at thesame time.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, as far as this movie goes, I
mean it's the actual Foley themeis I mean that was another song
, that was just.
It's like it's just ainstrumental keyboard electronic
song.
It's just an instrumentalkeyboard electronic song, but I
remember hearing this on theradio a lot that Harold Falkmire
score.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I remember that it was just like what is this music
from the future?
What is a science fiction?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
music.
You know what's funny?
The song was so popular thatthey actually asked this guy to
be on top of the pops to perform.
He looks so uncomfortableplaying the music.
He doesn't sing or anythinglike that.
He's just playing the keyboardand everybody's dancing around
him and he just looks souncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
That's so funny.
I prefer just playing mykeyboard in the solitude of my
room.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Don't bump the table.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh wow, yeah it's just, and you know, the other
thing that struck me about thisopening sequence was okay, we
got this, we got 48 hours and wehave trading places.
They all open with Eddie Murphyin trouble with the cops.
Yep.
And I was like that's how youjust open a open with Eddie
Murphy in trouble with the cops.
That's how you just open amovie with Eddie Murphy in the
(27:57):
1980s.
You just have him in troublewith the cops.
I guess that's why Best Defensedidn't work out so well,
because I'm guessing he doesn'tget arrested at the beginning of
that movie.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, no, it's definitely more is the reason
why Best Defense didn't work.
That's another subject foranother day, right?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
the reason why best defense didn't work right.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Well, that's another subject for another day.
But I do think that movies likebelial's cop in 48 hours I
think it introduced a differentkind of genre yeah, um and it's
a lot of action comedy exactly.
We didn't have action comedies.
We had movies that were likeeither it was death wish or it
was something like ClintEastwood coming up like Coogan's
(28:33):
Bluff, like we never hadsomebody and every black man
that was on tv.
They were serious.
You know, richard Roundtree wasserious um, like there was a
lot of people, so you didn'treally have that, especially
coming from this guy who's likesuper young you know he's 23
years old when he shoots this umand like he's just wisecracking
(28:55):
and fast talking to the pointwhere he introduced a lot of
other people trying to recreatebevelio's cop.
You have a lot of movies in the80s, especially 80s, where like
whoopi goldberg is thefast-talking wisecracking uh
person in um jumping jack flasha burglar or whatever other
movie they were trying to do.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Even you know a movie that we did like about a year
ago on the podcast we did,running Scared, and that movie
wouldn't have been greenlitwithout Beverly Hills Cop, I'm
sure.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, because I mean, and you know, hollywood doesn't
really make action comedieslike this anymore, and it's a
shame, because it's a fun genre.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I think the last couple ones they did was let's
Be Cops and the.
Other Guys.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The Other Guys by.
Will Ferrell, I never saw let'sBe Cops, but I like the Other
Guys.
We have covered the Other Guyson the podcast.
Yeah, that's a fun movie.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I guess we don't have to go through this movie beat
by beat.
We can just kind of give sortof we can go around.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
But I will say in the beginning of this movie that
man's red leather pants thathe's wearing.
He's wearing a cowboy hat, redleather pants and some cowboy
boots.
If that is in Detroit, I don'tknow what is.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I've never been, but it sounds like a benefit.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It seems like Detroit .
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It sounds like the place that RoboCop has to shoot
up.
That's all I'm saying 100%.
Thank you for listening.
If you want to hear the fullepisode, you can go to
nonproductivecom.
Go to the SNL nerds, episodenumber two, 43, on Beverly Hills
cop.
That's where you will hear meand the SNL nerds break down the
(30:42):
movie Beverly Hills cop.
Uh, have not done the movie yeton this podcast, but hopefully
soon.
Uh, we have a lot of othermovies to get through.
We have Eddie Murphy Raw, wehave Shrek, Harlem Nights and a
movie that I never talk aboutbut I always bring it up in
conversation Best Defense.
(31:02):
So, please, people, stay tuned.
We'll definitely have more foryou.
With all hearts and minds clear, let's end this show.
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