June 24, 2024 • 53 mins
Can a single film redefine an entire genre? Join us as we dissect the cultural phenomenon that is "Boomerang" and its legendary star, Eddie Murphy. From the humor of Eddie's meticulous coordination and the memorable mushroom shirt scene to the groundbreaking portrayal of Black professionals, we revisit moments that made this film iconic. We'll also break down the unforgettable soundtrack featuring PM Dawn, Johnny Gill, and TLC, exploring how it added a rich layer to the film's lasting appeal.
We'll take a closer look at how "Boomerang" challenged stereotypes by placing an all-Black cast in a professional setting, tackling criticisms about the film's racial composition, and emphasizing the importance of these portrayals in media. Hear personal stories of how "Boomerang" influenced our lives and shaped our perspectives, making it a cult classic despite initial negative reviews. We'll explore its role in paving the way for future Black romantic comedies, shedding light on the importance of representation in Hollywood.
Finally, we'll reflect on the lasting impact of Eddie Murphy's character, Marcus, on our perceptions of gender roles and relationships. From Marcus's charm and ambition to the deeper lessons about love and vulnerability, this film left an indelible mark. We'll share our favorite scenes, memorable quotes, and how younger generations might view these classic moments differently today. Plus, celebrate Eddie Murphy's extensive filmography and his impactful portrayal in "Dolomite Is My Name." Don't miss this heartfelt tribute to a film that continues to resonate across generations.
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
everybody dances what movie is that?
From, it's from beverly hillscop like wait, that's he's very
previously previously,previously on the Murphy Monday
(00:28):
podcast.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
I'm trying to impress you.
You know that, I know.
You know where'd you get themushroom shirt?
I got to know.
Well, the secret is you got tocoordinate.
Most people don't coordinate,so you got to coordinate.
That's what you did when yousaw me.
You saw the mushroom shirt,mushroom shirt, mushroom shirt
Bang mushroom shirt.
Mushroom shirt.
But see, you can't stop withthe mushroom shirt, you gotta go
on.
I had to stop that shirt.
No, you gotta keep going.
Okay, now let me show yousomething.
Look at that.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
Oh, you got on a mushroom belt, Gerard.
Did you know your pops had amushroom belt on?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Yes, but you don't stop there.
Mushroom ring yes, good idea.
Look what I got the gerard.
Speaker 7 (01:10):
Did you know?
On the inside was specialmushroom, yes, boomerang.
At one point I felt like thatwas gonna be my life, like I was
terrified, terrified.
I'm like, oh my god, that's mylife.
And then his last name isGraham either that yo, oh my god
, I'm till this day.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I refer to that as my uncle, marcus, or your uncle I
always say right, right yeah, Ihad a girlfriend that was super
into boomerang, used to getjealous man why?
Speaker 9 (01:47):
Did she have pretty feet?
Boomerang, you had to remind methat I had seen that film.
I actually saw it in theaters,wow.
And I'm like, oh, that's right,that's when Eddie Murphy knew
he found the perfect woman basedon her feet.
So that probably lost somepercentage points on Rotten
Tomatoes, but that soundtrackwas awesome.
You had pm dawn.
Yes, I without you.
(02:08):
That song was oh, that was goodoh, my goodness, right.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah.
Yeah, that actually was onthere.
Um, there's a couple of songson there.
Speaker 9 (02:17):
Johnny gill's on there that was a really good
soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It sounds like tlc is on there.
Yeah, it was a really reallygood soundtrack.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
It sounds like TLC is on there.
Yeah, it was a really, reallygood soundtrack.
I'm not, you know, take it froma white boy from Connecticut.
I know my R and B.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Nigel recently um, I'm talking to the viewers right
now.
Nigel recently, uh, spoke aboutthis movie, that we're talking
about boomerang, and I and Itold him, if you really look
close to the scene where him andHalle Berry are sitting on the
couch watching Star Trek becausethey're both Trekkies and they
(02:52):
fall asleep together lookclosely at the television, what
kind of television it is.
You'll notice that that was thepremiere.
Now this movie was released in92, he said Very clear about
that.
Flat screen TVs weren't evenout was the premiere.
Now, this movie was released in92, he said Very clear about
that.
Flat screen TVs weren't evenout.
Then it wasn't like oh Rico,wait a minute.
(03:13):
It's probably one of thosethings where you're looking at
it from a certain angle and itlooked like a.
No, eddie Murphy was an upscaleblack man living an opulent
lifestyle, luxury, luxuryeverywhere.
He had a flat screen TV inplace in that movie in 92.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I gotta fact check that.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'll take your word for it.
See for yourself.
I used to think, well, maybeI'm not looking at it.
Okay, word for it, no, no, seefor yourself.
See for yourself, because Iused to think, well, maybe I'm
not looking at it right, okay,look at it.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's on the wall, all right, all right, all right.
Listen, you got it, you got it,that's not a JVC baby, you got
it, it is, it is.
You're definitely right, yep.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Worthy girl Turn gay girl.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
This is a kinder gentler, eddie Murphy, than
we've seen in the movies before,and I like him in this film.
Speaker 8 (04:12):
Well, I liked one thing that he did in the picture
.
I mean, everyone knows there'sso much publicity about this
picture that Eddie Murphy's youknow sort of been shocked by the
criticism that he's too machoin his Playboy interview and on
the screen with Harlem Nightsand that he's not black enough,
that he doesn't hire enoughblacks.
So now this picture is like anapology, a mea culpa for all my
(04:32):
sins.
But I think what has happenedis they haven't put enough
laughs in it and the dangerouskind of funny Eddie Murphy is
what I was missing in thispicture.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Because this is Eddie Murphy.
Suddenly you've got thissociological criticism.
Is he black enough?
Does he have enough?
Speaker 8 (04:46):
black people no, no, no, I don't have it.
I don't have it.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
His colleagues have it, no you've quoted it from
other places.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
Exactly right.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
The fact is, I think you have to just look at this as
a movie.
You wouldn't put some otheractor up to that kind of
standard?
Speaker 8 (05:01):
I don't believe, Absolutely I you think any of
these ideas that I've just saidare in his mind.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Do?
I think they're in his mind.
I'm sure they are, I'm surethey.
I'm sure that he wants to showa different side of himself.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
So why am I wrong to bring it up?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, because you're doing it in a different way,
it's hard to explain, but I knowwhat I'm talking about.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
You know, Roger, on that basis, you can do the show
by yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Here's the problem.
I have a very, very good pointI'm trying to make and I can't
make it in 30 seconds.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
Maybe we'll do a show on it, okay, coming up, the new
show called Ebert.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
We've been waiting for a long time.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Yes, we've been waiting for a long, long time.
Good morning my baby.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Jesus Christ, this is becoming very irritating.
Hey everybody, welcome toanother episode of the Murphy
Monday podcast, the only podcastthat celebrates the life and
career of Eddie Murphy.
I'm your host, nigel AFullerton.
With me today, I have an eventcoordinator.
She's a social and communityadvocate.
(06:19):
She's a TED Talk ex-speaker andthe host of that Sam Law Show.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Ladies, and gentlemen , please give a round of
applause for Sam Law.
Hey, hey, hey, I like that.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Hey everyone.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Thanks for having me, nigel, it's a pleasure and an
honor to be here.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I've been trying to get you on for a while
.
I've been trying to do thisepisode for a while and I wanted
to talk to a lot ofprofessional Black women because
the movie Boomerang is kind ofcentered around that.
I don't know if you've everrealized like when you watch
this movie, it's the first timethat you see african-americans
in a professional setting, likeall black people in an office
(07:10):
hey, you on your way to meetlady eloise to discuss that
merger right.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
How do you know everything?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
you go.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Well, I read it when I was in your office this
morning hey, man, you're notsupposed to be in my office and
you ain't supposed to be goingthrough my mail.
Okay, no, I.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Nah, man, I wouldn't go through your stuff.
Man, here here, hold it up,hold it up.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Hold it up, oh you're gonna read right through the
envelope.
I'm gonna read right throughthe envelope it says lunch
tomorrow at Hula Heads, open itup.
Dear Bob, how about lunch atHula?
That's very impressive.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
See told you man told you man, now check this out.
Man, I'm working here aboutnine days, you know I've been on
time most of the time, evenwhen it rained.
Don't you think it's about timewe talk?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
promotion.
It's normal to us, but forother cultures they don't really
see it that way.
Uh, one of the critiques ofthis movie was that it's set in
a fantasy world where whitepeople don't exist.
Speaker 10 (08:09):
Okay so no, and I I admire the fact this is a film
about some uh rich people.
I guess you're a rich guy inthe show runs an advertising
agency, right?
He, he or he's head of theadvertising agency he's a.
He's a marketing executiveright, I mean no guns, no
violence the.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
The coolest thing about Boomerang and the most
political thing about Boomerangis that it's a movie with all
black cast and it has nothing todo with being black or nothing.
Speaker 10 (08:34):
That's my point I don't To me any good movie when
you become the person in themovie like I'm sitting.
I went to see League of theirtheir own and I'm sitting there
going oh, I'm gina davis, I'mthe one throwing the ball
because you put yourself in youknow?
see, I would think you would sayoh, I'm tom hanks, not gina
davis apparently, you know Iguess you don't know me that
(08:55):
well, but you know like I'mreading this thing, I'm reading
this through from.
This is on the la times, thisreview, it says.
It says the most intriguingaspect of Boomerang turns out
not its story, but its racialcomposition.
It says this takes pains tocreate a reverse world from
which white people are invisible.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Now, oh yeah, this cat in the LA Times was tripping
because there was.
There were no that.
Well, there are white people inthe movie but there were no.
Like like white leads in it andyou take a picture like boys in
the hood, like, uh, you know,like white leads in it and you
take a picture like boys in thehood.
No one tripped about thatbecause it was, you know, a
movie that dealt with like aviolent thing but right, regular
thing and it was business orwhere are the white people who's
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running that office.
You know I mean.
So when you, when you get thattype of criticism, you can't
really trip on it.
If someone's reviewing a movieand they're tripping on me, you,
you know, personally I don'teven get it.
Well, it's a cultural bias.
Speaker 10 (09:50):
It's the type of thing where people say they're
not used to seeing black artistsin these roles.
So it seems odd to me.
But you know, I would say, well, you better get used to it,
because I ain't going, no place,I ain't going no place.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
There, I ain't going no place.
I ain't going no place, robMarkman.
There's a lot of critics ofthis movie.
I remember when I first startedthis podcast, the critics
rating was at 21%.
It is now at 48% because moreand more people have talked
about this movie.
It's become more of a cultclassic.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I still say fuck them critics.
I was really young when it cameout.
I was like six years old.
So I'll give some background.
I have an older brother.
My older brother is 44.
Right now I'm 35.
So he's got to be 16 watchingthis movie.
(10:41):
And I remember the soundtrackactually came with a condom in
it, did it?
Yeah, and that was supercontroversial.
And I remember being with mybrother I think he was at the
Wiz when he got the soundtrack,you know and it had that song
like love should have broughtyou home last night and all
those romantic songs and likethat was the thing.
(11:02):
That was kind of like the.
It was the shock value.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Do you remember the first time you saw this?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
movie Like what is he trying to say?
What is this trying to pushforward?
And I remember being small.
Now, as I got older, I was aweirdo in like my latter years
of elementary school and middleschool.
I would come home and I wouldwatch Boomerang, senseless and
what's Love Got to Do With it.
(11:29):
So don't ask, I don't know why,but like these movies were.
You know what?
When I think about it, I thinkwhat I liked about these movies
is that it was like, you know,you watch Liar Liar with Jim
Carrey and you watch Boomerangwith Eddie Murphy, and these
archetypes are similar in thesense of like Eddie Murphy's in
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office, jim Carrey's in office,you know there's these powerful
women and then there's theat-home women.
It was real life.
I grew up in West Babylon Likethat's what life to me looked
like as a young, a young childof color black child, and I just
felt like I even like that'swhat life to me look like as a
young, a young child of colorblack child, and I just felt
like I even like what's love gotto do with it.
Tina Turner my grandma lovedTina Turner.
She's rich, she's powerful andsenseless.
(12:14):
With um Marla Wayans, he'sgoing to college.
He's just trying to go to likea good.
He's in school, he's trying toget a job at a big firm and like
impress some pretty girl.
And the girl happens to be,like me, multiracial.
And these themes were what Iimagined my life to look like
and I think you know I want tosay between 10 and like 15, it
(12:40):
just kind of like became a movie.
That kind of shaped me and Iwork in a very I work in a
similar world.
I work in marketing, oddlyenough.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Do you feel like this movie influenced you though?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Hell yeah, it's iconic to me.
I think I wanted to be everywoman in that movie, or at some
point I have been Even down toEartha Kitt's character.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
I've been them all.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I embody a little piece of every woman in that
movie Definitely Halle Berry themost, in the sense of falling
for someone that isn't readythey're not ready to commit,
they're not ready to do right,and you're just like yo.
Just be normal, bro, like Idon't know why you're thinking
so deep into it, but just benormal and let's see what what
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happens.
I think at one point I've beenRobin Givens, you know hot, and
I'm outside and I'm doing mything and I'm a player, like
I've probably been hurt way toolong, you know, and I don't want
to be her anymore.
I'd rather be like Holly Berryor even embody, like David Allen
Greer's character, Like thelove.
(13:55):
There was a lot of love in thatmovie.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I feel like there was Like, honestly, I think there's
a couple things that you saidthat resonated with me, because,
number one, I do love the movieSenseless.
I don't know why, I just wantto let you know.
But the second thing is that,again, when we watched this, we
didn't understand what washappening before us, because to
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us it's normal, what do you mean?
There's all black peoplehanging out at at a, at a law,
like a marketing firm in 1992.
It is like we never stopped, wenever thought anything
differently.
However, it's funny how ourcommunity looks at this movie
and then, like, I just read youthe reviews and you're like wait
(14:43):
, are, are we watching adifferent movie?
Like, do you not find JohnWitherspoon hilarious?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Right, Like you know, he reminds me of like men, I
know, like my family in theSouth they eat chitterlings, I
don't and pig feet and stufflike that.
It's not my cup of tea.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I eat normal parts of the pork and stuff like that.
It's not my cup of tea.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I eat normal parts of the pork, but just that like
the big hat.
His wife wearing a big hat inone of those church things.
We just talked about that.
That's our roots, you know.
It seemed.
It was real for me, more realthan maybe.
What is it?
Dolomite or a movie like?
That I can't relate to that Icould relate to Marcus.
(15:25):
I could relate to Marcus.
I could relate to all of thosecharacters.
I can really relate to Marcus.
Now being in marketing, being aBlack woman in marketing, I
just can't relate.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I understand completely.
It's funny when we watch thismovie and we look at this movie.
I don't know if you knew this,but this is one of the first
romantic comedies wow if youreally like, look at it like
from a spectrum, because I I'vetried to look, like, I've tried
to search like what was thefirst black, like romantic
comedy, before this, you havethe 80s and the only one that
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comes close is she's got to haveit.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Wow, you know what I was going to think.
It might have been SidneyPoitier's Guess who's Coming to
Dinner.
Yeah, but that's not reallywasn't necessarily a black film.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And it also was about him coming to a white family,
like it was more the racialaspect rather than it being just
black people and showing ofblack love and black excellence.
If you look at the moviesbefore that, there's a lot of
black exploitation movies in theseventies.
When we come to the eighties,they stopped it because they
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didn't want to.
These the black exploitationmovies weren't as profitable.
So if you look at how manyblack movies happened in in
1980s, like there's not a lot.
That's why there was theresurgence with Spike Lee and
you know Robert Townsend andKenan Abbey-Waynes, but besides
that, the only real all-Blackcast was the color purple.
(16:57):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so like, unless we're ina slavery movie like Glory, or
we're in some action movie likeDolomite or you know, shaft,
this was the firstrepresentation of actual
professional Black people.
Because, again, I go back to amovie called Claudine with James
(17:19):
Earl Jones and Diane Carroll.
However, that movie wasn't acomedy.
I don't believe.
It was more of a drama.
So we're known for drama.
We're known a drama, so we'reknown for drama.
We're known for comedy andwe're known for action, but
never that meld of romanticcomedy.
We never had our Kramer versusKramer.
We never had.
(17:39):
When a man loves a woman, like,we didn't have those.
This is the first one that like.
Exactly this is the first onethat like brings you to a best
man, brings you to a lovingbasketball brings you to all the
other things yeah, but that'swhat I'm saying.
Like this movie and I love itbecause it's directed by one of
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my favorite movie directors andI say this all the time it's my
favorite movie in the worldHouse Party, I have it on my
wall, but it's directed byreginald hudley dj belial,
that's my homie, oh yeah, I'mtrying to get him on the show.
I tried, I, I really did.
I sent him.
I sent him some stuff.
I've talked about um darylchill mitchell probably twice on
(18:23):
this podcast.
Uh, because of the time that Imet him at the barbershop and he
was dressed like crazy.
But anyway, reginald Hudlin,directing this movie.
It was amazing because this isthe first time that Eddie Murphy
Eddie Murphy's had a lot ofcriticism for not being quote
(18:44):
unquote, black enough, right?
So, mostly from Spike Lee and alot of other black creatives.
Because if you look at themovies that Eddie Murphy has
done over the years the only onebefore this, well, he only had
two.
It was Coming to America, thatwas all black and it was Harlem
Nights.
So you know which, again, areall black cast.
(19:09):
But he was being criticizedabout there not being black
writers, black directors, black,you know whatever.
He didn't use it.
So this is the first time thatEddie Murphy got together with a
black director and you see allthe nuances that happen in this
movie because for some reasonand just, you have Coming to
America and you have a HarlemNights, but for some reason this
(19:32):
movie feels like the blackestmovie that Eddie Murphy's ever
done well, I did see Dolomite,that was nuts yeah but Dolomite
is pretty black.
Yeah, but Dolomite is my name,is something that came later
right, right, you know what Imean.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
like, after all the criticism, after all the
criticism, after all thecriticism.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
But again, it's like you see these things with Eddie
and you watch this movie andthis movie is in for the
audience that doesn't know thismovie is from 1992.
It's about a player that getsplayed Basically.
You have Marcus Graham, EddieMurphy's character, who works at
a marketing firm and he is thisplayboy that, like, is just
(20:14):
hanging out dating up every kindof women, but he's very shallow
.
He doesn't like women becauseof their feet Beautiful but her
feet were jacked up, were they?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Yeah, I pulled the covers back.
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Habitime.
He doesn't like them becausethey're not too smart.
Rod, you met that girl?
She's not very smart.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Come on, man, you don't fuck her brains, I'm
looking for perfection.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He has two other friends that don't get as much
women as he does Martin Lawrenceand David Alan Greer but
they're like his lackeys.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Like the shit you read about in Penthouse man
stuff, but they're like hislackeys.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I can't do that, man.
That's why you don't get nopussy man.
Exactly, hey, tyler, there'sother things in life besides sex
.
Come on, how about sharingcommitment?
You know you get to get intouch with your feminine side,
like me.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Starting to sound low on the soft side.
Starting to sound soft man,Borderline bitch.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You also have him working at this firm, trying to
make a name for himself.
At the firm which is head up byLady Eloise, played by Eartha
Kitt, loves to throw herself atvirile young men, marcus.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Darling, what are you trying to imply?
That I hit it?
Oh no, I see what you're saying, marcus Darling.
Hey, how you doing, lady Eloise, I don't have any panties on.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Lady.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Eloise, please.
We have a meeting.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Can we just please go ?
You know, roger Right, and shebasically, she basically is
turning the.
I guess there's a corporatetakeover that's happening and
Robin Gibbons is becoming thenew basically head of the
department which Eddie Murphythought he was going to get.
But anyway, eddie Murphy findshimself falling for this girl,
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but he doesn't really want toand it's kind of a reversal
pattern.
That's why this is a boomerangsituation.
It's reversed and now eddiemurphy is having the feelings
that he has given to other women, which is kind of one of the
reasons why a lot of women likethis movie.
I feel like y'all watch it andthen turn it off, right when
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he's like trying to listen tosome shoday, right when he's
hanging out with the kids, like,yep, that's what you get, click
, don't get with angela.
You're gonna ruin her too.
How do you feel about thesituations that go on in this
(23:06):
movie?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
you know what I think I might have let marcus
characters like.
I think when I think about ityou might be an archetype of who
I've been you know I think that, starting at a young age, and
this you.
This could be why in 1992 orfrom in my formative years, I
didn't see like a lot of blackwomen in power.
(23:30):
They weren't really on the newsthat much as news anchors you
had, like Oprah.
You had a couple of ladies onsome soap operas Very few, like
it just wasn't like somethingyou saw and I was always like a
real smart girl.
I always assumed I would be inlike corporate America or you
know, owning my own businesses,like I just assumed that was
going to be my life and I thankGod that for the most part it
(23:53):
has been.
But I feel like that imagerythat I saw was me wanting to be
more like a man.
And I think that Eddie Murphyyou know he's funny, I always
like to laugh and I'm intocomedy I think that in fun fact
my aunt actually got hit on byEddie Murphy back in the day
(24:14):
when he was in Hempstead.
A lot of people don't know thathe's from Long Island because
he don't like to say that- oh no.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I've had his friends on here.
Yeah, he's a.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Long.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Island guy.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
So I think that that like that imagery, like he was a
archetype to me of somebodythat I wanted to be.
He was handsome and smart andeverybody adored him.
Everywhere he went he had hiseyes set on the top, you know,
he loved art, he loved music, hehad good friends.
Like to me, he had a good lifeand he was shallow and I was
(24:49):
shallow.
I'm probably still shallow to adegree and I also, like I said,
I had an older brother.
So some of the things that hewas saying the next person I
look up to in my life and my bigbrother was saying too so like
some of those things not that mybrother was shallow, but he had
a thing about nasty feet someof those things Not that my
(25:09):
brother was shallow, but he hada thing about nasty feet I do
not like your feet are nasty,Like you know, and like certain
things about women and thevulnerability of women.
I didn't like growing up Like Ifelt like if you were
vulnerable you, you made room tofall off your path and if you
could let men sidetrack you.
So a lot of times I treated menlike an option, you know,
(25:33):
instead of a I don't know theright word, but I guess, instead
of like a gift or treasure,because it is a gift to be in
love and to fall in love, Ididn't think of it like that.
I just thought of it like allright, if they want to be around
, they want to be around, ifthey don't, they don't.
I'm still going to go about mybusiness and I'm still like that
(25:54):
to a degree, but I'm not asshallow and I'm not like a
player like I used to be, like Iwas bad and I think that a lot
of those things I picked up fromhim.
It wasn't until years later,like watching the movie as an
adult, that I felt sad for himand I felt sad for myself
because I was like damn, I'm somuch like this character but
(26:17):
that's what happens when youwatch something at all the time,
like I mean I would watch itall the time I know like the
like the weirdest parts of themovie, like I'll quote it, I've
I've quoted like um, uh, thenthat commercial that he does
with um, the guy from Annie, theguy who played Punjab from
Annie he's like the cherries andeverything.
(26:39):
I'm like kiss, kiss, kiss kissme once, Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss
me once kiss me twice.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Oh yeah, ooh la la sexy bomb.
So nice baby, kiss me, kiss me,kiss me, kiss me twice.
Oh yeah, ooh la la sexy bomb.
So nice baby, kiss me, kiss me,kiss me, kiss me twice.
Oh yeah, ooh la la sexy bomb.
So nice baby.
(27:21):
I like it Good, I like theorange Good and I like the ice
cream.
Lovely.
You gotta get rid of thecherries and lose the banana,
Cherry and banana, and that's alittle Brunella, little dollies,
you know.
Well, that's a little too overt, you know we should go a little
more subtle.
I think some women might getoffended.
All right, but I dug it, I dugit.
Don't make that.
(27:41):
He didn't dig it face, I dug it.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Just got a little nasty, like y'all always do.
Okay, all right, nasty, nelson,that's me like that, like
that's how much that movieimprinted on me.
Or even that scene when angelascreams at eddie murphy like you
know, you're pretty much shadydude like love should have
brought you home last night.
And then the music plays.
It's like, oh my god, what isthat?
You know, how did that happen?
That was perfect.
But when you, if you've everbeen in a situation like that,
where you've had to saysomething like that to someone,
(28:15):
it's like, damn, like I, I had aboomerang, like you said, it
flipped around on me as an adultwhere I'm just like I don't
want to be like that anymore,like I gotta change.
But, um, I think I think likethat that has been real powerful
, like seeing Marcus develop andhim change, even, like you said
(28:37):
, when you're like, oh, you know, women probably be like you
don't deserve Angela.
But he needed Angela rightuntil it was necessary, is
necessary for him to become whohe is you, you know and become a
good person.
So I felt like you know, likeyou should go with her.
Yeah, you could be with thegirl like a Robin Givens
character what was her name?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Robin Givens name was Jacqueline.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Jacqueline that's my sister's name, but you have her
and you have, like, strong j,and you have lady eloise women
that are used to using men to asa sexual uh tool or using them
to get what they want.
They don't see value.
And we have angela that justsees value in people yeah I want
(29:24):
to be more like that yeah,that's.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's interesting, that she sees value in people
and she was actually nice toDavid Allen Greer on that date,
because I know it could havegone left Right.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Because he's not the obvious choice, like in any film
or in anything.
He's the guy that always wearshis heart on his sleeve and gets
hurt easily and he can't neverseem to find the right girl.
But it's probably because hewears his heart on his sleeve
and gets hurt easily and hecan't never seem to find the
right girl.
But it's probably because hewears his heart on his sleeve.
But just like the grace and howshe handled that date and
meeting his parents and alltypes of like weird stuff that
(29:59):
went on like she just lovedpeople and I I think over time
in my life I just wanted to lovepeople movie really left on me
and it didn't hurt that shelooked like one of Marcus' girls
.
Right.
His mother says that'shilarious.
Oh, you look like one ofMarcus' girls.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
What are some of your favorite parts of this movie?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
There's too many to name.
I think that scene whenStranger reveals her fragrance
in the commercials is just sofreaking bizarre.
And they're like what is thename of the fragrance?
And she's like after Beth andthey're like what?
And she's like after Beth andthey're like see that, like what
.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I'm sorry, I thought you said Beth no it's English
B-i-r-t-h best I was just makinga distinction between birth or
bath.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Thank, you darling don't make fun of me, okay.
My english is not so good.
You know, as a mom, that is nota fragrance I think.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I think it's crazy because this movie was the first
, my first introduction to whograce jones is.
So for me, I watched adocumentary on grace jones that
blew my mind.
I was like I need to be more ofa fan.
I did not know this woman, whowas, who she is like.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
She definitely deserves she deserves her
flowers so much fun fact herbrother is a pastor, noah jones.
Oh, big, huge, mega churchpastor, didn't know didn't know.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't think they hang out super close, yeah does
he sing.
Pull up to my bumper duringmass, I don't know.
Pull up to the bumper, baby,drive it in between.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I've only caught a couple of like clips of his
services, but I just think thatthat's like wild, like they're
so different, and I mean, lookat how she shaped culture and
art, like that whole that shootthat kim kardashian did, where
she has, like, the champagnebottle hanging off her butt all
of those were actually gracejones, like that photographer.
(32:21):
That was his muse.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Grace jones was his muse yeah, she's, she's amazing,
like I just oh man, oh man.
I could talk about Grace Jonesfor hours.
I don't want to.
Let's get back on track.
What are some of the othermoments that you love about this
movie?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I think when they go to New Orleans, when he goes to
New Orleans with Angela andAngela has to like break it down
like bro, I think this weshould just have fun and yeah, I
talked to other people, Ithought you were too, and um,
this isn't anything more thanfun, you know, and rightfully so
(33:00):
.
Like, first off, if you knownow I know what I know as a
grown woman you don't poop whereyou eat, like she really should
not have been.
Like there's a lot ofinter-office relationships.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Oh, there's a lot that you should not be.
Why are you doing this toMarcus?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Right, right.
And so there's it's a littlemessy at that job, like I would
have left a while ago.
I was like Can't deal with noneof this.
This is we not doing this?
But what I will say is like Ithink she knew her path and
where she wanted to go and shefelt like yo, like dude,
everybody done slept with you atthis job.
(33:38):
Lady Eloise Tron, j's throwingit at you Like the girls every
time you walk in a room, likethe girls are laughing because
they've done whatever with youor flirted with you.
I can't take you serious and Ithink it's the first time a man
feels like what?
yeah, yeah he's serious yeah itwas necessary.
(33:58):
It was like the first um.
It was like when you look atthe, the stages of change, it
was in that pre premeditationstage where you haven't really
thought about what you, why youneed to change, but then, like,
something comes up and it's like, hmm, it starts getting those
(34:19):
gears going, you know.
And then then you start toenter the process of change,
where you start doing some ofthe work.
You'll start planning it anddoing the work.
I think that was like his firststep, that wait, what like me,
you know why not me?
And then he had to examine.
Now he's going to ask hisfriends and he's, he's, he's
hanging out with angela and he'sstarting to look at himself.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It's the first part of of introspection for him, I
think yeah, definitely mean forany man and I know this for a
fact for any man to walk in andevery woman is laughing at him.
Yeah, yeah, that's not good.
I felt for him.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I was like I mean I put a few guys through that in
college.
I can't lie.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, but it hurts.
It hurts.
It's like.
It's like, oh man, like whenyou know, you know, like you
don't know, but you but you know.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, it's just like do I have something in my head
Like what's going on?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
What's so funny?
What's?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
so funny everybody.
And she's talking about like,like.
She's talking about intimatemoments with him and at work,
like in this place he's got togo, you spend, so you spend like
eight to 10 hours a day at work, like in this place you've got
to go.
You spend like eight to 10hours a day at work.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's not exactly where you want to feel like an
outcast or a pariah.
Yeah, I have like threefavorite moments in this movie.
One of them is Chris Rock'scharacter, Boney T.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Mark, mark, I don't believe the way you let her
doggie you out like that.
Walk around with your head downmoping.
Where's your pride?
Where's your dignity?
Didn't you see Malcolm X diedso you could walk around looking
like a chump?
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Hey, boney, not today , okay, sad man.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
First a fat boy's breakup, now this.
There's nothing to believe in.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
The second one is Grace Jones saying no man can
turn down this pussy.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Oh man, that was at the big party right.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
No, that was at.
They had a dinner Right okay,they had a dinner and she and
he's, they're in a restaurantand Jacqueline goes to the
bathroom and then all of asudden she's like so I heard you
can really move that ass Right,okay, so when are we going to
fuck what?
Speaker 7 (36:51):
According to Jacqueline, you are really great
in bed.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Jacqueline told you I was really good in bed.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Well, according to Jacqueline, you really know how
to move your ass, you know.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Oh, she told you I know how to move my ass in bed.
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, I don't know what Jackhas told you, but it's not that
kind of partying.
I'd appreciate it if, hey,what's the matter with you?
Stop that, stop, stop it.
Will you stop it?
Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I mean, I don't believe this.
You are going to turn down apussy like this, staring you
smack in your face.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
No man can turn down this pussy.
I don't know any man that canrefuse this pussy.
Stop showing pussy.
People are eating in here Pussy, pussy, pussy, pussy, pussy,
pussy, pussy.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Trying to find our cat.
Where is that cat?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
And I think my third favorite is probably Pops John
Witherspoon.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Now, marcus, I hear a girl dog got your pussy whipped
.
Why don't you reverse that?
Got your pussy whipped.
Why don't you reverse it?
Speaker 10 (38:12):
Don't be pussy whipped.
Whip that pussy.
Look, Bang, bang, bang, bang,bang, bang, bang bang.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I wonder if you take like Gen Z or the younger
millennials and play it that arewhite or Hispanic and you play
in you know any other race andyou play it for them.
If they would have like theirfirst time, I wonder what their
first time in review watching itwould be like would their minds
(38:42):
be different?
Because they have a muchbroader view than what Siskel
and Ebert had at the time.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yes and no.
Yes, they would have a broaderview.
But, like when you have a lotof the Gen Zers watch Coming to
America from and this is from mygood friend Mouse Jones, he
doesn't see how he doesn't seehow he's a millennium.
But I'm just saying Mouse islike I don't see Coming to
(39:12):
America as being that funny.
What?
The second one, the first one,the first one.
He's out of his mind.
I haven't had him on thepodcast yet, but the first one.
We talked about it and he waslike nah, but when you look at a
lot of when I, when I go backand I watch because I told you
(39:34):
that people still review thesemovies after 30 years, whatever,
and the way that they look atthings, like I want I've read
something from nutty Professorthat said I feel bad for the fat
professor.
They were like a lot of thejokes are cringy, like even now,
(39:58):
like as I go on here and I lookat what they're saying, you
know it's they're saying for allthe sex talk in Boomerang,
there's very little nudity.
The only thing naked is EddieMurphy's vanity.
That's from.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Rolling.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Stone.
That's deep.
That's from Rolling Stone.
You know I don't know whatpeople are looking for when they
watch a movie.
Are you looking to beentertained?
I don't understand exactly whypeople like things and why they
hate things.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
It's a bit of a.
It's relational and cognitivedissonance and their
understanding, like how theysynthesize culture in their
brains.
You know it's a, it's a mixtureof things.
If you don't relate, itprobably won't make sense to you
.
Um, if you, if you haven'tprocessed your own crap, it's
(40:56):
probably not going to make senseto you.
If you don't have, like theysay, um, like, the neocortex of
your brain is where you processculture.
So you go to another country,or whatever.
Me, when I go to other countries, I want fit in, like I want to
see how the locals live.
I don't want to see, I want tosee some of the tourist stuff,
but I want to see, like, howpeople are.
Even when I go to another state, I want to be where the locals
(41:19):
are, and that's that's how I'mable to process culture and pick
up different languages quicklyand enjoy myself in, like the
weirdest or the most interestingand beautiful places in the
world.
And I think that, um, you know,if your brain isn't set to
process culture, because youdon't actively step outside of
what you know, you're not gonnareally enjoy things that are
(41:42):
different from you, you know,and whatever.
That is so and I think it's awindow if you want to process,
if you want to learn somethingnew or enjoy another culture,
but you can't leave the house.
It's a way to do that, likereading a book.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I think it's a privilege.
I think that it's kind of likeoh, you've never seen Top Gun?
No, I've never seen Top Gun.
Have you seen Boomerang?
I've never seen Top Gun?
No, I've never seen Top Gun.
Have you seen Boomerang?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I've never seen Top Gun.
I know the main character'snames are, but I've never seen
it.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I used to tease this guy.
I used to say I've never seen aTom Cruise movie besides
Mission Impossible.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yo, you know what you used to say to me back in the
day, what you used to go haveyou ever seen Friday?
And then you'd go.
No, you know what's funny?
I didn't see Friday until twoyears ago, and I think it's your
fault, it was me.
I did that.
Yeah, I used to do that thewhole time when we were kids.
(42:45):
Oh, my bad I finally saw Fridaytwo years ago and I got to tell
you I understand so many thingspeople were talking about now.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
We used to.
I had the VHS.
I probably bought it aroundthat time.
I had the VHS and I used towatch it all the time.
That and Don't Be Mad, southCentral, I drank your juice
tonight.
That's a good one.
Speaker 9 (43:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
That's a good one.
So, that's gotta be one of myfavorites.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
My last question to you is what are your top five
Eddie Murphy movies?
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Top five Okay, um boomerang, okay, um definitely
coming to America Dream girls,even though he's not the star of
the movie, he's just oh yeah,he's an amazing performance in
Dream Girls.
I don't know the name of thismovie, but it's a movie with him
(43:42):
and his daughter and there'slike this little tree.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh, that's a thousand words.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
A thousand words?
Yes, why do that's a thousandwords, a thousand words yes.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Why do you like a thousand words Interesting?
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Because he really had to, I guess.
Like Boomerang, he had tochange and grow, because once
that tree ran out, that was kindof it and you just didn't want
that to happen.
Another one of my favorites inthis movie is nuts.
Oh man, what is it called?
What is it called?
It's right at the tip of mytongue.
(44:18):
He's in a movie and there's him, and there's an actor who
thinks aliens are after him.
Bowfinger, bowfinger, bowfinger.
Oh my God, I love that movie.
So we're at Bowfinger Coming toAmerica.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Thousand.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Words.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Thousand Words and okay.
Oh, and Dreamgirls.
I think those have got to be.
I mean, I have so many but I'mgoing to.
I'm going to think, right now,those are probably the ones that
really you picked a thousandwords over life.
I like, I like life, but lifeactually makes me really
freaking sad.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
A lot of people say that.
A lot of people say that's whyyou know life had bad reviews
too right.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Ten times I could understand that and I've seen it
like 10 times.
I've seen it older.
So, like some of his movies, Ididn't because I was really
young when he was in his prime.
I didn't see until I was in my20s and 30s, you know.
And so now when I see Life andunderstanding, like the prison,
the school to prison pipeline,it makes it breaks my heart,
(45:31):
even though I have a good ending.
It breaks my heart Because likeit's just, but yeah, it's a
great.
I mean there's so many that hedid that are great.
I wish you would have asked me.
The ones that I like was like,yeah, why?
I think it kind of shows moreLike I really did not not guru
too much.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Was that what it was called?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Holy.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Man, holy man.
Yeah, guru was with the samemovie, but with Michael Myers.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, Mike Myers.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah, I didn't like Holy man that much.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
It was cheap.
Yeah, it's actually, and I'vesaid this on the podcast before
Holy man is not really an EddieMurphy movie.
It's actually a Jeff Goldblummovie and they stuck Eddie
Murphy in it and they made himthe star of the show.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah, it wasn't really his.
It's not really his movie.
I like that.
He motivated people.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
But it was cheesy.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
What else I didn't really.
I was never really a fan of theGolden Child.
Is that what it's called?
Oh, man.
The Golden Child.
I never really Okay.
It's okay.
What else?
I got an honorable mentionShrekrek that he was good in
(46:54):
Shrek, but I wasn't the biggestShrek fan.
He is my favorite part of Shrek.
Um, what else?
What else?
The one with Rasputia?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
that's Norbit.
Why don't she like Norbit?
Speaker 3 (47:14):
See, I like Norbit the character and I like that he
stood up for himself.
I detested Rasputia.
I just detested her in so manylevels.
One of the things I reallyappreciate about Eddie Murphy is
his range and that he can justput on a suit and be whoever
(47:36):
Like anybody White, black, itdon don't matter, he'll just be
anybody.
But um, I just the audacity ofRasputia like she's just like,
really like I just wanted tosmack her the whole time.
I could not stand well I feltfor Norbit, but I hate?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
yeah, but that does that mean that he did a great
job because he made you want tohate the person, or it's just
that you didn't like her?
Speaker 3 (47:54):
I thought it was cheesy.
I thought again it was cheesy.
It was a little like there wasjust like a point where he was
like kind of relying on thosethings as opposed to like giving
us good stories and good work.
I think he had a big turnaroundwith A Thousand Words and with
Dreamgirls.
I think that was like a bigturnaround.
(48:16):
But I mean, then you have themovie that he did about Dolomite
.
That was just that was great.
I loved that.
A lot of people said theydidn't love it, but I loved it.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
That's because they thought it was a comedy.
It's actually.
If you look at it, it's abiopic.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Right, it's a biopic.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Because, again, a lot of people don't know who
Dolomite is.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Right and how powerful that was for us as
Black people.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
In the movies I actually reviewed that movie at
another podcast and I wasactually telling my who was a
Gen Z or my co-host?
I was just telling him.
I was like the old man is areal character.
He's like for real.
He didn't know.
You know, I was like you don'thave to watch the movies,
they're horrible, but you know,just know that it's.
(49:03):
Basically this is a story abouta man that persevered that that
, like as creatives, we getdoors slammed in our faces Like
I've been out in LA for the pastyear.
You don't know how many doorshave been slammed in my face
from shows that everybody'swatched and I'd be like, and I'd
just be sitting there watchingI was like, alright, Atheon
(49:24):
Crockett got that.
Alright, I get it.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
But when you think about it, like when you think
about afion crockett right andhe he used to dance and do all
types of like we have to do somany things in order to get our
shot.
You know, and, and, and some ofus will not, some of us all get
our shot are going to get ourshot this year, or we have, like
it ebbs and flows, like we haveperiods where, like there's
(49:48):
times, I'm all in the news, I'mdoing this, I'm doing that, and
then, like this year, I haven'tdone diddly dog, do I mean?
Speaker 9 (49:54):
I did my show and I thank God for that.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
But if it wasn't for my significant other really
pushing me, I wouldn't haveprobably even done that.
But you like you see that.
You see them getting a doorslammed in their face.
But when you hear these stories, or a story like Dolomites,
where he was just like F, yourdoors.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
I'm going to make it work.
I'm going to make it happen.
I'm going to force myself inthere.
I'm going to like the way heset it up to take over that.
That was I needed to see that.
I needed to be inspired likethat, and I'm glad that Eddie
Murphy was the one to do it.
I thought he did a phenomenaljob.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
I did too, because, to be honest with you, I never
thought Dolomite was funny.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
No, it's not, it's the worst.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
It's not Shaft, it's not funny, but like Rudy Ray
Moore is not funny yeah no, itwas so extra.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
It was just like what is this?
But it was necessary, it was soextra, it was just like what
(51:10):
Law?
You can find me there.
You can go on YouTube andsearch up my show, the that Sam
Law Show.
Season two will be premieringin November.
Season one is all out.
You can watch it whatever youlike and just look on my website
, wwwthatsamlawcom, if you wantto know where I'm at, where I'm
(51:30):
going to be.
If you want to just watch mylife in real time, check out my
stories on Instagram andFacebook.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Awesome, awesome.
Well, I thank you for beinghere, thank you for being a
guest, thank you for sharing,sharing your stories.
Oh man, this was a good one.
Sharing your stories.
Oh man, this was a good one.
Uh, once again, shout out tocomedy beast radio.
Uh, and listen.
Hey, if you haven't seen thismovie, you should by now.
Uh like, share and subscribe,tell an Eddie Murphy fan.
(51:59):
To tell an Eddie Murphy fanthat you love this podcast.
And, with all hearts and mindsclear, let's end this show.
everybody dances what movie is that?
From, it's from beverly hillscop like wait, that's he's very
previously previously,previously on the Murphy Monday
(00:28):
podcast.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
I'm trying to impress you.
You know that, I know.
You know where'd you get themushroom shirt?
I got to know.
Well, the secret is you got tocoordinate.
Most people don't coordinate,so you got to coordinate.
That's what you did when yousaw me.
You saw the mushroom shirt,mushroom shirt, mushroom shirt
Bang mushroom shirt.
Mushroom shirt.
But see, you can't stop withthe mushroom shirt, you gotta go
on.
I had to stop that shirt.
No, you gotta keep going.
Okay, now let me show yousomething.
Look at that.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
Oh, you got on a mushroom belt, Gerard.
Did you know your pops had amushroom belt on?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Yes, but you don't stop there.
Mushroom ring yes, good idea.
Look what I got the gerard.
Speaker 7 (01:10):
Did you know?
On the inside was specialmushroom, yes, boomerang.
At one point I felt like thatwas gonna be my life, like I was
terrified, terrified.
I'm like, oh my god, that's mylife.
And then his last name isGraham either that yo, oh my god
, I'm till this day.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I refer to that as my uncle, marcus, or your uncle I
always say right, right yeah, Ihad a girlfriend that was super
into boomerang, used to getjealous man why?
Speaker 9 (01:47):
Did she have pretty feet?
Boomerang, you had to remind methat I had seen that film.
I actually saw it in theaters,wow.
And I'm like, oh, that's right,that's when Eddie Murphy knew
he found the perfect woman basedon her feet.
So that probably lost somepercentage points on Rotten
Tomatoes, but that soundtrackwas awesome.
You had pm dawn.
Yes, I without you.
(02:08):
That song was oh, that was goodoh, my goodness, right.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah.
Yeah, that actually was onthere.
Um, there's a couple of songson there.
Speaker 9 (02:17):
Johnny gill's on there that was a really good
soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It sounds like tlc is on there.
Yeah, it was a really reallygood soundtrack.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
It sounds like TLC is on there.
Yeah, it was a really, reallygood soundtrack.
I'm not, you know, take it froma white boy from Connecticut.
I know my R and B.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Nigel recently um, I'm talking to the viewers right
now.
Nigel recently, uh, spoke aboutthis movie, that we're talking
about boomerang, and I and Itold him, if you really look
close to the scene where him andHalle Berry are sitting on the
couch watching Star Trek becausethey're both Trekkies and they
(02:52):
fall asleep together lookclosely at the television, what
kind of television it is.
You'll notice that that was thepremiere.
Now this movie was released in92, he said Very clear about
that.
Flat screen TVs weren't evenout was the premiere.
Now, this movie was released in92, he said Very clear about
that.
Flat screen TVs weren't evenout.
Then it wasn't like oh Rico,wait a minute.
(03:13):
It's probably one of thosethings where you're looking at
it from a certain angle and itlooked like a.
No, eddie Murphy was an upscaleblack man living an opulent
lifestyle, luxury, luxuryeverywhere.
He had a flat screen TV inplace in that movie in 92.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I gotta fact check that.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'll take your word for it.
See for yourself.
I used to think, well, maybeI'm not looking at it.
Okay, word for it, no, no, seefor yourself.
See for yourself, because Iused to think, well, maybe I'm
not looking at it right, okay,look at it.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
It's on the wall, all right, all right, all right.
Listen, you got it, you got it,that's not a JVC baby, you got
it, it is, it is.
You're definitely right, yep.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Worthy girl Turn gay girl.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
This is a kinder gentler, eddie Murphy, than
we've seen in the movies before,and I like him in this film.
Speaker 8 (04:12):
Well, I liked one thing that he did in the picture
.
I mean, everyone knows there'sso much publicity about this
picture that Eddie Murphy's youknow sort of been shocked by the
criticism that he's too machoin his Playboy interview and on
the screen with Harlem Nightsand that he's not black enough,
that he doesn't hire enoughblacks.
So now this picture is like anapology, a mea culpa for all my
(04:32):
sins.
But I think what has happenedis they haven't put enough
laughs in it and the dangerouskind of funny Eddie Murphy is
what I was missing in thispicture.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Because this is Eddie Murphy.
Suddenly you've got thissociological criticism.
Is he black enough?
Does he have enough?
Speaker 8 (04:46):
black people no, no, no, I don't have it.
I don't have it.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
His colleagues have it, no you've quoted it from
other places.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
Exactly right.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
The fact is, I think you have to just look at this as
a movie.
You wouldn't put some otheractor up to that kind of
standard?
Speaker 8 (05:01):
I don't believe, Absolutely I you think any of
these ideas that I've just saidare in his mind.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Do?
I think they're in his mind.
I'm sure they are, I'm surethey.
I'm sure that he wants to showa different side of himself.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
So why am I wrong to bring it up?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, because you're doing it in a different way,
it's hard to explain, but I knowwhat I'm talking about.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
You know, Roger, on that basis, you can do the show
by yourself.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Here's the problem.
I have a very, very good pointI'm trying to make and I can't
make it in 30 seconds.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
Maybe we'll do a show on it, okay, coming up, the new
show called Ebert.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
We've been waiting for a long time.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Yes, we've been waiting for a long, long time.
Good morning my baby.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Jesus Christ, this is becoming very irritating.
Hey everybody, welcome toanother episode of the Murphy
Monday podcast, the only podcastthat celebrates the life and
career of Eddie Murphy.
I'm your host, nigel AFullerton.
With me today, I have an eventcoordinator.
She's a social and communityadvocate.
(06:19):
She's a TED Talk ex-speaker andthe host of that Sam Law Show.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Ladies, and gentlemen , please give a round of
applause for Sam Law.
Hey, hey, hey, I like that.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Hey everyone.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Thanks for having me, nigel, it's a pleasure and an
honor to be here.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I've been trying to get you on for a while
.
I've been trying to do thisepisode for a while and I wanted
to talk to a lot ofprofessional Black women because
the movie Boomerang is kind ofcentered around that.
I don't know if you've everrealized like when you watch
this movie, it's the first timethat you see african-americans
in a professional setting, likeall black people in an office
(07:10):
hey, you on your way to meetlady eloise to discuss that
merger right.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
How do you know everything?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
you go.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Well, I read it when I was in your office this
morning hey, man, you're notsupposed to be in my office and
you ain't supposed to be goingthrough my mail.
Okay, no, I.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Nah, man, I wouldn't go through your stuff.
Man, here here, hold it up,hold it up.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Hold it up, oh you're gonna read right through the
envelope.
I'm gonna read right throughthe envelope it says lunch
tomorrow at Hula Heads, open itup.
Dear Bob, how about lunch atHula?
That's very impressive.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
See told you man told you man, now check this out.
Man, I'm working here aboutnine days, you know I've been on
time most of the time, evenwhen it rained.
Don't you think it's about timewe talk?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
promotion.
It's normal to us, but forother cultures they don't really
see it that way.
Uh, one of the critiques ofthis movie was that it's set in
a fantasy world where whitepeople don't exist.
Speaker 10 (08:09):
Okay so no, and I I admire the fact this is a film
about some uh rich people.
I guess you're a rich guy inthe show runs an advertising
agency, right?
He, he or he's head of theadvertising agency he's a.
He's a marketing executiveright, I mean no guns, no
violence the.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
The coolest thing about Boomerang and the most
political thing about Boomerangis that it's a movie with all
black cast and it has nothing todo with being black or nothing.
Speaker 10 (08:34):
That's my point I don't To me any good movie when
you become the person in themovie like I'm sitting.
I went to see League of theirtheir own and I'm sitting there
going oh, I'm gina davis, I'mthe one throwing the ball
because you put yourself in youknow?
see, I would think you would sayoh, I'm tom hanks, not gina
davis apparently, you know Iguess you don't know me that
(08:55):
well, but you know like I'mreading this thing, I'm reading
this through from.
This is on the la times, thisreview, it says.
It says the most intriguingaspect of Boomerang turns out
not its story, but its racialcomposition.
It says this takes pains tocreate a reverse world from
which white people are invisible.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Now, oh yeah, this cat in the LA Times was tripping
because there was.
There were no that.
Well, there are white people inthe movie but there were no.
Like like white leads in it andyou take a picture like boys in
the hood, like, uh, you know,like white leads in it and you
take a picture like boys in thehood.
No one tripped about thatbecause it was, you know, a
movie that dealt with like aviolent thing but right, regular
thing and it was business orwhere are the white people who's
(09:32):
running that office.
You know I mean.
So when you, when you get thattype of criticism, you can't
really trip on it.
If someone's reviewing a movieand they're tripping on me, you,
you know, personally I don'teven get it.
Well, it's a cultural bias.
Speaker 10 (09:50):
It's the type of thing where people say they're
not used to seeing black artistsin these roles.
So it seems odd to me.
But you know, I would say, well, you better get used to it,
because I ain't going, no place,I ain't going no place.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
There, I ain't going no place.
I ain't going no place, robMarkman.
There's a lot of critics ofthis movie.
I remember when I first startedthis podcast, the critics
rating was at 21%.
It is now at 48% because moreand more people have talked
about this movie.
It's become more of a cultclassic.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I still say fuck them critics.
I was really young when it cameout.
I was like six years old.
So I'll give some background.
I have an older brother.
My older brother is 44.
Right now I'm 35.
So he's got to be 16 watchingthis movie.
(10:41):
And I remember the soundtrackactually came with a condom in
it, did it?
Yeah, and that was supercontroversial.
And I remember being with mybrother I think he was at the
Wiz when he got the soundtrack,you know and it had that song
like love should have broughtyou home last night and all
those romantic songs and likethat was the thing.
(11:02):
That was kind of like the.
It was the shock value.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Do you remember the first time you saw this?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
movie Like what is he trying to say?
What is this trying to pushforward?
And I remember being small.
Now, as I got older, I was aweirdo in like my latter years
of elementary school and middleschool.
I would come home and I wouldwatch Boomerang, senseless and
what's Love Got to Do With it.
(11:29):
So don't ask, I don't know why,but like these movies were.
You know what?
When I think about it, I thinkwhat I liked about these movies
is that it was like, you know,you watch Liar Liar with Jim
Carrey and you watch Boomerangwith Eddie Murphy, and these
archetypes are similar in thesense of like Eddie Murphy's in
(11:52):
office, jim Carrey's in office,you know there's these powerful
women and then there's theat-home women.
It was real life.
I grew up in West Babylon Likethat's what life to me looked
like as a young, a young childof color black child, and I just
felt like I even like that'swhat life to me look like as a
young, a young child of colorblack child, and I just felt
like I even like what's love gotto do with it.
Tina Turner my grandma lovedTina Turner.
She's rich, she's powerful andsenseless.
(12:14):
With um Marla Wayans, he'sgoing to college.
He's just trying to go to likea good.
He's in school, he's trying toget a job at a big firm and like
impress some pretty girl.
And the girl happens to be,like me, multiracial.
And these themes were what Iimagined my life to look like
and I think you know I want tosay between 10 and like 15, it
(12:40):
just kind of like became a movie.
That kind of shaped me and Iwork in a very I work in a
similar world.
I work in marketing, oddlyenough.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Do you feel like this movie influenced you though?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Hell yeah, it's iconic to me.
I think I wanted to be everywoman in that movie, or at some
point I have been Even down toEartha Kitt's character.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
I've been them all.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I embody a little piece of every woman in that
movie Definitely Halle Berry themost, in the sense of falling
for someone that isn't readythey're not ready to commit,
they're not ready to do right,and you're just like yo.
Just be normal, bro, like Idon't know why you're thinking
so deep into it, but just benormal and let's see what what
(13:33):
happens.
I think at one point I've beenRobin Givens, you know hot, and
I'm outside and I'm doing mything and I'm a player, like
I've probably been hurt way toolong, you know, and I don't want
to be her anymore.
I'd rather be like Holly Berryor even embody, like David Allen
Greer's character, Like thelove.
(13:55):
There was a lot of love in thatmovie.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I feel like there was Like, honestly, I think there's
a couple things that you saidthat resonated with me, because,
number one, I do love the movieSenseless.
I don't know why, I just wantto let you know.
But the second thing is that,again, when we watched this, we
didn't understand what washappening before us, because to
(14:21):
us it's normal, what do you mean?
There's all black peoplehanging out at at a, at a law,
like a marketing firm in 1992.
It is like we never stopped, wenever thought anything
differently.
However, it's funny how ourcommunity looks at this movie
and then, like, I just read youthe reviews and you're like wait
(14:43):
, are, are we watching adifferent movie?
Like, do you not find JohnWitherspoon hilarious?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Right, Like you know, he reminds me of like men, I
know, like my family in theSouth they eat chitterlings, I
don't and pig feet and stufflike that.
It's not my cup of tea.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I eat normal parts of the pork and stuff like that.
It's not my cup of tea.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I eat normal parts of the pork, but just that like
the big hat.
His wife wearing a big hat inone of those church things.
We just talked about that.
That's our roots, you know.
It seemed.
It was real for me, more realthan maybe.
What is it?
Dolomite or a movie like?
That I can't relate to that Icould relate to Marcus.
(15:25):
I could relate to Marcus.
I could relate to all of thosecharacters.
I can really relate to Marcus.
Now being in marketing, being aBlack woman in marketing, I
just can't relate.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I understand completely.
It's funny when we watch thismovie and we look at this movie.
I don't know if you knew this,but this is one of the first
romantic comedies wow if youreally like, look at it like
from a spectrum, because I I'vetried to look, like, I've tried
to search like what was thefirst black, like romantic
comedy, before this, you havethe 80s and the only one that
(16:02):
comes close is she's got to haveit.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Wow, you know what I was going to think.
It might have been SidneyPoitier's Guess who's Coming to
Dinner.
Yeah, but that's not reallywasn't necessarily a black film.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And it also was about him coming to a white family,
like it was more the racialaspect rather than it being just
black people and showing ofblack love and black excellence.
If you look at the moviesbefore that, there's a lot of
black exploitation movies in theseventies.
When we come to the eighties,they stopped it because they
(16:36):
didn't want to.
These the black exploitationmovies weren't as profitable.
So if you look at how manyblack movies happened in in
1980s, like there's not a lot.
That's why there was theresurgence with Spike Lee and
you know Robert Townsend andKenan Abbey-Waynes, but besides
that, the only real all-Blackcast was the color purple.
(16:57):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so like, unless we're ina slavery movie like Glory, or
we're in some action movie likeDolomite or you know, shaft,
this was the firstrepresentation of actual
professional Black people.
Because, again, I go back to amovie called Claudine with James
(17:19):
Earl Jones and Diane Carroll.
However, that movie wasn't acomedy.
I don't believe.
It was more of a drama.
So we're known for drama.
We're known a drama, so we'reknown for drama.
We're known for comedy andwe're known for action, but
never that meld of romanticcomedy.
We never had our Kramer versusKramer.
We never had.
(17:39):
When a man loves a woman, like,we didn't have those.
This is the first one that like.
Exactly this is the first onethat like brings you to a best
man, brings you to a lovingbasketball brings you to all the
other things yeah, but that'swhat I'm saying.
Like this movie and I love itbecause it's directed by one of
(18:01):
my favorite movie directors andI say this all the time it's my
favorite movie in the worldHouse Party, I have it on my
wall, but it's directed byreginald hudley dj belial,
that's my homie, oh yeah, I'mtrying to get him on the show.
I tried, I, I really did.
I sent him.
I sent him some stuff.
I've talked about um darylchill mitchell probably twice on
(18:23):
this podcast.
Uh, because of the time that Imet him at the barbershop and he
was dressed like crazy.
But anyway, reginald Hudlin,directing this movie.
It was amazing because this isthe first time that Eddie Murphy
Eddie Murphy's had a lot ofcriticism for not being quote
(18:44):
unquote, black enough, right?
So, mostly from Spike Lee and alot of other black creatives.
Because if you look at themovies that Eddie Murphy has
done over the years the only onebefore this, well, he only had
two.
It was Coming to America, thatwas all black and it was Harlem
Nights.
So you know which, again, areall black cast.
(19:09):
But he was being criticizedabout there not being black
writers, black directors, black,you know whatever.
He didn't use it.
So this is the first time thatEddie Murphy got together with a
black director and you see allthe nuances that happen in this
movie because for some reasonand just, you have Coming to
America and you have a HarlemNights, but for some reason this
(19:32):
movie feels like the blackestmovie that Eddie Murphy's ever
done well, I did see Dolomite,that was nuts yeah but Dolomite
is pretty black.
Yeah, but Dolomite is my name,is something that came later
right, right, you know what Imean.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
like, after all the criticism, after all the
criticism, after all thecriticism.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
But again, it's like you see these things with Eddie
and you watch this movie andthis movie is in for the
audience that doesn't know thismovie is from 1992.
It's about a player that getsplayed Basically.
You have Marcus Graham, EddieMurphy's character, who works at
a marketing firm and he is thisplayboy that, like, is just
(20:14):
hanging out dating up every kindof women, but he's very shallow
.
He doesn't like women becauseof their feet Beautiful but her
feet were jacked up, were they?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Yeah, I pulled the covers back.
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Habitime.
He doesn't like them becausethey're not too smart.
Rod, you met that girl?
She's not very smart.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Come on, man, you don't fuck her brains, I'm
looking for perfection.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He has two other friends that don't get as much
women as he does Martin Lawrenceand David Alan Greer but
they're like his lackeys.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Like the shit you read about in Penthouse man
stuff, but they're like hislackeys.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I can't do that, man.
That's why you don't get nopussy man.
Exactly, hey, tyler, there'sother things in life besides sex
.
Come on, how about sharingcommitment?
You know you get to get intouch with your feminine side,
like me.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Starting to sound low on the soft side.
Starting to sound soft man,Borderline bitch.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You also have him working at this firm, trying to
make a name for himself.
At the firm which is head up byLady Eloise, played by Eartha
Kitt, loves to throw herself atvirile young men, marcus.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Darling, what are you trying to imply?
That I hit it?
Oh no, I see what you're saying, marcus Darling.
Hey, how you doing, lady Eloise, I don't have any panties on.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Lady.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Eloise, please.
We have a meeting.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Can we just please go ?
You know, roger Right, and shebasically, she basically is
turning the.
I guess there's a corporatetakeover that's happening and
Robin Gibbons is becoming thenew basically head of the
department which Eddie Murphythought he was going to get.
But anyway, eddie Murphy findshimself falling for this girl,
(22:22):
but he doesn't really want toand it's kind of a reversal
pattern.
That's why this is a boomerangsituation.
It's reversed and now eddiemurphy is having the feelings
that he has given to other women, which is kind of one of the
reasons why a lot of women likethis movie.
I feel like y'all watch it andthen turn it off, right when
(22:42):
he's like trying to listen tosome shoday, right when he's
hanging out with the kids, like,yep, that's what you get, click
, don't get with angela.
You're gonna ruin her too.
How do you feel about thesituations that go on in this
(23:06):
movie?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
you know what I think I might have let marcus
characters like.
I think when I think about ityou might be an archetype of who
I've been you know I think that, starting at a young age, and
this you.
This could be why in 1992 orfrom in my formative years, I
didn't see like a lot of blackwomen in power.
(23:30):
They weren't really on the newsthat much as news anchors you
had, like Oprah.
You had a couple of ladies onsome soap operas Very few, like
it just wasn't like somethingyou saw and I was always like a
real smart girl.
I always assumed I would be inlike corporate America or you
know, owning my own businesses,like I just assumed that was
going to be my life and I thankGod that for the most part it
(23:53):
has been.
But I feel like that imagerythat I saw was me wanting to be
more like a man.
And I think that Eddie Murphyyou know he's funny, I always
like to laugh and I'm intocomedy I think that in fun fact
my aunt actually got hit on byEddie Murphy back in the day
(24:14):
when he was in Hempstead.
A lot of people don't know thathe's from Long Island because
he don't like to say that- oh no.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I've had his friends on here.
Yeah, he's a.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Long.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Island guy.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
So I think that that like that imagery, like he was a
archetype to me of somebodythat I wanted to be.
He was handsome and smart andeverybody adored him.
Everywhere he went he had hiseyes set on the top, you know,
he loved art, he loved music, hehad good friends.
Like to me, he had a good lifeand he was shallow and I was
(24:49):
shallow.
I'm probably still shallow to adegree and I also, like I said,
I had an older brother.
So some of the things that hewas saying the next person I
look up to in my life and my bigbrother was saying too so like
some of those things not that mybrother was shallow, but he had
a thing about nasty feet someof those things Not that my
(25:09):
brother was shallow, but he hada thing about nasty feet I do
not like your feet are nasty,Like you know, and like certain
things about women and thevulnerability of women.
I didn't like growing up Like Ifelt like if you were
vulnerable you, you made room tofall off your path and if you
could let men sidetrack you.
So a lot of times I treated menlike an option, you know,
(25:33):
instead of a I don't know theright word, but I guess, instead
of like a gift or treasure,because it is a gift to be in
love and to fall in love, Ididn't think of it like that.
I just thought of it like allright, if they want to be around
, they want to be around, ifthey don't, they don't.
I'm still going to go about mybusiness and I'm still like that
(25:54):
to a degree, but I'm not asshallow and I'm not like a
player like I used to be, like Iwas bad and I think that a lot
of those things I picked up fromhim.
It wasn't until years later,like watching the movie as an
adult, that I felt sad for himand I felt sad for myself
because I was like damn, I'm somuch like this character but
(26:17):
that's what happens when youwatch something at all the time,
like I mean I would watch itall the time I know like the
like the weirdest parts of themovie, like I'll quote it, I've
I've quoted like um, uh, thenthat commercial that he does
with um, the guy from Annie, theguy who played Punjab from
Annie he's like the cherries andeverything.
(26:39):
I'm like kiss, kiss, kiss kissme once, Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss
me once kiss me twice.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Oh yeah, ooh la la sexy bomb.
So nice baby, kiss me, kiss me,kiss me, kiss me twice.
Oh yeah, ooh la la sexy bomb.
So nice baby, kiss me, kiss me,kiss me, kiss me twice.
Oh yeah, ooh la la sexy bomb.
So nice baby.
(27:21):
I like it Good, I like theorange Good and I like the ice
cream.
Lovely.
You gotta get rid of thecherries and lose the banana,
Cherry and banana, and that's alittle Brunella, little dollies,
you know.
Well, that's a little too overt, you know we should go a little
more subtle.
I think some women might getoffended.
All right, but I dug it, I dugit.
Don't make that.
(27:41):
He didn't dig it face, I dug it.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Just got a little nasty, like y'all always do.
Okay, all right, nasty, nelson,that's me like that, like
that's how much that movieimprinted on me.
Or even that scene when angelascreams at eddie murphy like you
know, you're pretty much shadydude like love should have
brought you home last night.
And then the music plays.
It's like, oh my god, what isthat?
You know, how did that happen?
That was perfect.
But when you, if you've everbeen in a situation like that,
where you've had to saysomething like that to someone,
(28:15):
it's like, damn, like I, I had aboomerang, like you said, it
flipped around on me as an adultwhere I'm just like I don't
want to be like that anymore,like I gotta change.
But, um, I think I think likethat that has been real powerful
, like seeing Marcus develop andhim change, even, like you said
(28:37):
, when you're like, oh, you know, women probably be like you
don't deserve Angela.
But he needed Angela rightuntil it was necessary, is
necessary for him to become whohe is you, you know and become a
good person.
So I felt like you know, likeyou should go with her.
Yeah, you could be with thegirl like a Robin Givens
character what was her name?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Robin Givens name was Jacqueline.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Jacqueline that's my sister's name, but you have her
and you have, like, strong j,and you have lady eloise women
that are used to using men to asa sexual uh tool or using them
to get what they want.
They don't see value.
And we have angela that justsees value in people yeah I want
(29:24):
to be more like that yeah,that's.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
That's interesting, that she sees value in people
and she was actually nice toDavid Allen Greer on that date,
because I know it could havegone left Right.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Because he's not the obvious choice, like in any film
or in anything.
He's the guy that always wearshis heart on his sleeve and gets
hurt easily and he can't neverseem to find the right girl.
But it's probably because hewears his heart on his sleeve
and gets hurt easily and hecan't never seem to find the
right girl.
But it's probably because hewears his heart on his sleeve.
But just like the grace and howshe handled that date and
meeting his parents and alltypes of like weird stuff that
(29:59):
went on like she just lovedpeople and I I think over time
in my life I just wanted to lovepeople movie really left on me
and it didn't hurt that shelooked like one of Marcus' girls
.
Right.
His mother says that'shilarious.
Oh, you look like one ofMarcus' girls.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
What are some of your favorite parts of this movie?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
There's too many to name.
I think that scene whenStranger reveals her fragrance
in the commercials is just sofreaking bizarre.
And they're like what is thename of the fragrance?
And she's like after Beth andthey're like what?
And she's like after Beth andthey're like see that, like what
.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I'm sorry, I thought you said Beth no it's English
B-i-r-t-h best I was just makinga distinction between birth or
bath.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Thank, you darling don't make fun of me, okay.
My english is not so good.
You know, as a mom, that is nota fragrance I think.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I think it's crazy because this movie was the first
, my first introduction to whograce jones is.
So for me, I watched adocumentary on grace jones that
blew my mind.
I was like I need to be more ofa fan.
I did not know this woman, whowas, who she is like.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
She definitely deserves she deserves her
flowers so much fun fact herbrother is a pastor, noah jones.
Oh, big, huge, mega churchpastor, didn't know didn't know.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't think they hang out super close, yeah does
he sing.
Pull up to my bumper duringmass, I don't know.
Pull up to the bumper, baby,drive it in between.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I've only caught a couple of like clips of his
services, but I just think thatthat's like wild, like they're
so different, and I mean, lookat how she shaped culture and
art, like that whole that shootthat kim kardashian did, where
she has, like, the champagnebottle hanging off her butt all
of those were actually gracejones, like that photographer.
(32:21):
That was his muse.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Grace jones was his muse yeah, she's, she's amazing,
like I just oh man, oh man.
I could talk about Grace Jonesfor hours.
I don't want to.
Let's get back on track.
What are some of the othermoments that you love about this
movie?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I think when they go to New Orleans, when he goes to
New Orleans with Angela andAngela has to like break it down
like bro, I think this weshould just have fun and yeah, I
talked to other people, Ithought you were too, and um,
this isn't anything more thanfun, you know, and rightfully so
(33:00):
.
Like, first off, if you knownow I know what I know as a
grown woman you don't poop whereyou eat, like she really should
not have been.
Like there's a lot ofinter-office relationships.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Oh, there's a lot that you should not be.
Why are you doing this toMarcus?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Right, right.
And so there's it's a littlemessy at that job, like I would
have left a while ago.
I was like Can't deal with noneof this.
This is we not doing this?
But what I will say is like Ithink she knew her path and
where she wanted to go and shefelt like yo, like dude,
everybody done slept with you atthis job.
(33:38):
Lady Eloise Tron, j's throwingit at you Like the girls every
time you walk in a room, likethe girls are laughing because
they've done whatever with youor flirted with you.
I can't take you serious and Ithink it's the first time a man
feels like what?
yeah, yeah he's serious yeah itwas necessary.
(33:58):
It was like the first um.
It was like when you look atthe, the stages of change, it
was in that pre premeditationstage where you haven't really
thought about what you, why youneed to change, but then, like,
something comes up and it's like, hmm, it starts getting those
(34:19):
gears going, you know.
And then then you start toenter the process of change,
where you start doing some ofthe work.
You'll start planning it anddoing the work.
I think that was like his firststep, that wait, what like me,
you know why not me?
And then he had to examine.
Now he's going to ask hisfriends and he's, he's, he's
hanging out with angela and he'sstarting to look at himself.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It's the first part of of introspection for him, I
think yeah, definitely mean forany man and I know this for a
fact for any man to walk in andevery woman is laughing at him.
Yeah, yeah, that's not good.
I felt for him.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I was like I mean I put a few guys through that in
college.
I can't lie.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, but it hurts.
It hurts.
It's like.
It's like, oh man, like whenyou know, you know, like you
don't know, but you but you know.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yeah, it's just like do I have something in my head
Like what's going on?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
What's so funny?
What's?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
so funny everybody.
And she's talking about like,like.
She's talking about intimatemoments with him and at work,
like in this place he's got togo, you spend, so you spend like
eight to 10 hours a day at work, like in this place you've got
to go.
You spend like eight to 10hours a day at work.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's not exactly where you want to feel like an
outcast or a pariah.
Yeah, I have like threefavorite moments in this movie.
One of them is Chris Rock'scharacter, Boney T.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Mark, mark, I don't believe the way you let her
doggie you out like that.
Walk around with your head downmoping.
Where's your pride?
Where's your dignity?
Didn't you see Malcolm X diedso you could walk around looking
like a chump?
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Hey, boney, not today , okay, sad man.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
First a fat boy's breakup, now this.
There's nothing to believe in.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
The second one is Grace Jones saying no man can
turn down this pussy.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Oh man, that was at the big party right.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
No, that was at.
They had a dinner Right okay,they had a dinner and she and
he's, they're in a restaurantand Jacqueline goes to the
bathroom and then all of asudden she's like so I heard you
can really move that ass Right,okay, so when are we going to
fuck what?
Speaker 7 (36:51):
According to Jacqueline, you are really great
in bed.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Jacqueline told you I was really good in bed.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Well, according to Jacqueline, you really know how
to move your ass, you know.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Oh, she told you I know how to move my ass in bed.
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, I don't know what Jackhas told you, but it's not that
kind of partying.
I'd appreciate it if, hey,what's the matter with you?
Stop that, stop, stop it.
Will you stop it?
Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I mean, I don't believe this.
You are going to turn down apussy like this, staring you
smack in your face.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
No man can turn down this pussy.
I don't know any man that canrefuse this pussy.
Stop showing pussy.
People are eating in here Pussy, pussy, pussy, pussy, pussy,
pussy, pussy.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Trying to find our cat.
Where is that cat?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
And I think my third favorite is probably Pops John
Witherspoon.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Now, marcus, I hear a girl dog got your pussy whipped
.
Why don't you reverse that?
Got your pussy whipped.
Why don't you reverse it?
Speaker 10 (38:12):
Don't be pussy whipped.
Whip that pussy.
Look, Bang, bang, bang, bang,bang, bang, bang bang.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I wonder if you take like Gen Z or the younger
millennials and play it that arewhite or Hispanic and you play
in you know any other race andyou play it for them.
If they would have like theirfirst time, I wonder what their
first time in review watching itwould be like would their minds
(38:42):
be different?
Because they have a muchbroader view than what Siskel
and Ebert had at the time.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yes and no.
Yes, they would have a broaderview.
But, like when you have a lotof the Gen Zers watch Coming to
America from and this is from mygood friend Mouse Jones, he
doesn't see how he doesn't seehow he's a millennium.
But I'm just saying Mouse islike I don't see Coming to
(39:12):
America as being that funny.
What?
The second one, the first one,the first one.
He's out of his mind.
I haven't had him on thepodcast yet, but the first one.
We talked about it and he waslike nah, but when you look at a
lot of when I, when I go backand I watch because I told you
(39:34):
that people still review thesemovies after 30 years, whatever,
and the way that they look atthings, like I want I've read
something from nutty Professorthat said I feel bad for the fat
professor.
They were like a lot of thejokes are cringy, like even now,
(39:58):
like as I go on here and I lookat what they're saying, you
know it's they're saying for allthe sex talk in Boomerang,
there's very little nudity.
The only thing naked is EddieMurphy's vanity.
That's from.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Rolling.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Stone.
That's deep.
That's from Rolling Stone.
You know I don't know whatpeople are looking for when they
watch a movie.
Are you looking to beentertained?
I don't understand exactly whypeople like things and why they
hate things.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
It's a bit of a.
It's relational and cognitivedissonance and their
understanding, like how theysynthesize culture in their
brains.
You know it's a, it's a mixtureof things.
If you don't relate, itprobably won't make sense to you
.
Um, if you, if you haven'tprocessed your own crap, it's
(40:56):
probably not going to make senseto you.
If you don't have, like theysay, um, like, the neocortex of
your brain is where you processculture.
So you go to another country,or whatever.
Me, when I go to other countries, I want fit in, like I want to
see how the locals live.
I don't want to see, I want tosee some of the tourist stuff,
but I want to see, like, howpeople are.
Even when I go to another state, I want to be where the locals
(41:19):
are, and that's that's how I'mable to process culture and pick
up different languages quicklyand enjoy myself in, like the
weirdest or the most interestingand beautiful places in the
world.
And I think that, um, you know,if your brain isn't set to
process culture, because youdon't actively step outside of
what you know, you're not gonnareally enjoy things that are
(41:42):
different from you, you know,and whatever.
That is so and I think it's awindow if you want to process,
if you want to learn somethingnew or enjoy another culture,
but you can't leave the house.
It's a way to do that, likereading a book.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I think it's a privilege.
I think that it's kind of likeoh, you've never seen Top Gun?
No, I've never seen Top Gun.
Have you seen Boomerang?
I've never seen Top Gun?
No, I've never seen Top Gun.
Have you seen Boomerang?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I've never seen Top Gun.
I know the main character'snames are, but I've never seen
it.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I used to tease this guy.
I used to say I've never seen aTom Cruise movie besides
Mission Impossible.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yo, you know what you used to say to me back in the
day, what you used to go haveyou ever seen Friday?
And then you'd go.
No, you know what's funny?
I didn't see Friday until twoyears ago, and I think it's your
fault, it was me.
I did that.
Yeah, I used to do that thewhole time when we were kids.
(42:45):
Oh, my bad I finally saw Fridaytwo years ago and I got to tell
you I understand so many thingspeople were talking about now.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
We used to.
I had the VHS.
I probably bought it aroundthat time.
I had the VHS and I used towatch it all the time.
That and Don't Be Mad, southCentral, I drank your juice
tonight.
That's a good one.
Speaker 9 (43:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
That's a good one.
So, that's gotta be one of myfavorites.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
My last question to you is what are your top five
Eddie Murphy movies?
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Top five Okay, um boomerang, okay, um definitely
coming to America Dream girls,even though he's not the star of
the movie, he's just oh yeah,he's an amazing performance in
Dream Girls.
I don't know the name of thismovie, but it's a movie with him
(43:42):
and his daughter and there'slike this little tree.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh, that's a thousand words.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
A thousand words?
Yes, why do that's a thousandwords, a thousand words yes.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Why do you like a thousand words Interesting?
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Because he really had to, I guess.
Like Boomerang, he had tochange and grow, because once
that tree ran out, that was kindof it and you just didn't want
that to happen.
Another one of my favorites inthis movie is nuts.
Oh man, what is it called?
What is it called?
It's right at the tip of mytongue.
(44:18):
He's in a movie and there's him, and there's an actor who
thinks aliens are after him.
Bowfinger, bowfinger, bowfinger.
Oh my God, I love that movie.
So we're at Bowfinger Coming toAmerica.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Thousand.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Words.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Thousand Words and okay.
Oh, and Dreamgirls.
I think those have got to be.
I mean, I have so many but I'mgoing to.
I'm going to think, right now,those are probably the ones that
really you picked a thousandwords over life.
I like, I like life, but lifeactually makes me really
freaking sad.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
A lot of people say that.
A lot of people say that's whyyou know life had bad reviews
too right.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Ten times I could understand that and I've seen it
like 10 times.
I've seen it older.
So, like some of his movies, Ididn't because I was really
young when he was in his prime.
I didn't see until I was in my20s and 30s, you know.
And so now when I see Life andunderstanding, like the prison,
the school to prison pipeline,it makes it breaks my heart,
(45:31):
even though I have a good ending.
It breaks my heart Because likeit's just, but yeah, it's a
great.
I mean there's so many that hedid that are great.
I wish you would have asked me.
The ones that I like was like,yeah, why?
I think it kind of shows moreLike I really did not not guru
too much.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Was that what it was called?
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Holy.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Man, holy man.
Yeah, guru was with the samemovie, but with Michael Myers.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, Mike Myers.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah, I didn't like Holy man that much.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
It was cheap.
Yeah, it's actually, and I'vesaid this on the podcast before
Holy man is not really an EddieMurphy movie.
It's actually a Jeff Goldblummovie and they stuck Eddie
Murphy in it and they made himthe star of the show.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah, it wasn't really his.
It's not really his movie.
I like that.
He motivated people.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
But it was cheesy.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
What else I didn't really.
I was never really a fan of theGolden Child.
Is that what it's called?
Oh, man.
The Golden Child.
I never really Okay.
It's okay.
What else?
I got an honorable mentionShrekrek that he was good in
(46:54):
Shrek, but I wasn't the biggestShrek fan.
He is my favorite part of Shrek.
Um, what else?
What else?
The one with Rasputia?
Speaker 2 (47:05):
that's Norbit.
Why don't she like Norbit?
Speaker 3 (47:14):
See, I like Norbit the character and I like that he
stood up for himself.
I detested Rasputia.
I just detested her in so manylevels.
One of the things I reallyappreciate about Eddie Murphy is
his range and that he can justput on a suit and be whoever
(47:36):
Like anybody White, black, itdon don't matter, he'll just be
anybody.
But um, I just the audacity ofRasputia like she's just like,
really like I just wanted tosmack her the whole time.
I could not stand well I feltfor Norbit, but I hate?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
yeah, but that does that mean that he did a great
job because he made you want tohate the person, or it's just
that you didn't like her?
Speaker 3 (47:54):
I thought it was cheesy.
I thought again it was cheesy.
It was a little like there wasjust like a point where he was
like kind of relying on thosethings as opposed to like giving
us good stories and good work.
I think he had a big turnaroundwith A Thousand Words and with
Dreamgirls.
I think that was like a bigturnaround.
(48:16):
But I mean, then you have themovie that he did about Dolomite
.
That was just that was great.
I loved that.
A lot of people said theydidn't love it, but I loved it.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
That's because they thought it was a comedy.
It's actually.
If you look at it, it's abiopic.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Right, it's a biopic.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Because, again, a lot of people don't know who
Dolomite is.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Right and how powerful that was for us as
Black people.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
In the movies I actually reviewed that movie at
another podcast and I wasactually telling my who was a
Gen Z or my co-host?
I was just telling him.
I was like the old man is areal character.
He's like for real.
He didn't know.
You know, I was like you don'thave to watch the movies,
they're horrible, but you know,just know that it's.
(49:03):
Basically this is a story abouta man that persevered that that
, like as creatives, we getdoors slammed in our faces Like
I've been out in LA for the pastyear.
You don't know how many doorshave been slammed in my face
from shows that everybody'swatched and I'd be like, and I'd
just be sitting there watchingI was like, alright, Atheon
(49:24):
Crockett got that.
Alright, I get it.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
But when you think about it, like when you think
about afion crockett right andhe he used to dance and do all
types of like we have to do somany things in order to get our
shot.
You know, and, and, and some ofus will not, some of us all get
our shot are going to get ourshot this year, or we have, like
it ebbs and flows, like we haveperiods where, like there's
(49:48):
times, I'm all in the news, I'mdoing this, I'm doing that, and
then, like this year, I haven'tdone diddly dog, do I mean?
Speaker 9 (49:54):
I did my show and I thank God for that.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
But if it wasn't for my significant other really
pushing me, I wouldn't haveprobably even done that.
But you like you see that.
You see them getting a doorslammed in their face.
But when you hear these stories, or a story like Dolomites,
where he was just like F, yourdoors.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
I'm going to make it work.
I'm going to make it happen.
I'm going to force myself inthere.
I'm going to like the way heset it up to take over that.
That was I needed to see that.
I needed to be inspired likethat, and I'm glad that Eddie
Murphy was the one to do it.
I thought he did a phenomenaljob.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
I did too, because, to be honest with you, I never
thought Dolomite was funny.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
No, it's not, it's the worst.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
It's not Shaft, it's not funny, but like Rudy Ray
Moore is not funny yeah no, itwas so extra.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
It was just like what is this?
But it was necessary, it was soextra, it was just like what
(51:10):
Law?
You can find me there.
You can go on YouTube andsearch up my show, the that Sam
Law Show.
Season two will be premieringin November.
Season one is all out.
You can watch it whatever youlike and just look on my website
, wwwthatsamlawcom, if you wantto know where I'm at, where I'm
(51:30):
going to be.
If you want to just watch mylife in real time, check out my
stories on Instagram andFacebook.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Awesome, awesome.
Well, I thank you for beinghere, thank you for being a
guest, thank you for sharing,sharing your stories.
Oh man, this was a good one.
Sharing your stories.
Oh man, this was a good one.
Uh, once again, shout out tocomedy beast radio.
Uh, and listen.
Hey, if you haven't seen thismovie, you should by now.
Uh like, share and subscribe,tell an Eddie Murphy fan.
(51:59):
To tell an Eddie Murphy fanthat you love this podcast.
And, with all hearts and mindsclear, let's end this show.
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