October 30, 2024 • 32 mins
Have you ever wondered why some manifestation techniques work sometimes and not others? In today's episode, we're diving into the most important thing to understand about manifestation so you can break free from the manifestation hamster wheel and unlock the keys to co-create your dream life.
Discover how my daughter, Alethea Harnish, award-winning Off-Broadway playwright and actress and the first person from her high school to go to an Ivy League, manifests dream opportunities the first time, in record time, and effortlessly brings her wildest dreams to life by ditching traditional manifestation techniques.
Alethea's unique approach to manifestation has been a game-changer in my life, helping me craft my superstar sales persona and overcome my fears as a single mom turned entrepreneur. Together, we redefine what true manifestation means beyond rituals and material desires and focus on the deeper emotional connections that drive us toward genuine fulfillment.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
(9:48) The argument about manifesting a swimming pool that completely changed how I view manifestation.
(11:32) Why it’s crucial to manifest opportunities that align with your calling instead of just focusing on the material things.
(19:30) What your dharma (calling) has to do with abundance.
(28:10) How to get off the hamster wheel of manifestation once and for all.
During our heartfelt conversation, we dissect the difference between chasing tangible dreams and understanding the emotions that truly satisfy us.
This episode invites you to harness your creative energy, align with your true path, and embrace the abundance that naturally follows when you let your dreams soar.
Join us as we explore the power of dreaming bigger, acting with faith, and allowing life's serendipitous nature to unfold.
About today's guest: Alethea Harnish is a theatre practitioner from Indianapolis, Ind. currently living in Paris, France.
Her one-woman show, Phantasmagoria, premiered off-Broadway in the Downtown Urban Arts Festival in 2022, and her new play, This is Your Computer on Drugs, premiered at Columbia University in 2023 alongside the course she co-taught with Prof. Mark C. Taylor titled Hippie Physics, Counterculture, Cyberculture.
To learn more or hire Alethea visit: www.aletheaharnish.com
Subscribe to her substack: https://aletheaharnish.substack.com/
Or email her directly at aletheaharnish@gmail.com
Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Mystery School of Manifestation. If you want to learn more about manifestation, sales or Debb’s journey, please visit DebbCobb.com
And if you're a service-based entrepreneur, coach, consultant or high-ticket closer, don't forget to book your Free 20-Minute Spiritual Sales Audit.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What do you do when the traditional manifestation
techniques just don't work foryou or they stop working?
In today's episode, I amtalking to the best manifester
that I've ever heard of.
She consistently blows my mindwith all that she is able to
manifest and how quickly shedoes it.
This, my friends, is thedifference between staying stuck
(00:21):
on the manifestation hamsterwheel and manifesting the life,
career or business only the10-year-old version of yourself
could dream up.
Stay tuned.
Welcome to the Mystery Schoolof Manifestation, where we
cannot stop talking about theconnection between all things
physical and metaphysical andthe magic of manifestation.
(00:41):
My name is Deb Cobb and I'mobsessed with teaching you how
to be in the world, but not ofthe world, so you can
consciously co-create a life andbusiness that defies the odds,
regardless of what you'vecreated up to this point.
I'm just a small-town girl fromrural Indiana who started my
spiritual journey as a poor,single mom once high school
dropout, barely able to makeends meet.
But through my connection withthe superconscious, make ends
(01:03):
meet.
But through my connection withthe super conscious, I've been
able to build a successfulonline business from the ground
up, without following the rulesor sleazy sales tactics.
I was even able to send mydaughter to the Ivy leagues.
Now our story is raw andunfiltered, and I'm more than a
little controversial, so bewarned if you're easily offended
or have children in the roomwhile you listen.
That said, if you're ready tostep fully into your version of
heaven on earth, while you canstill enjoy it in the physical,
buckle up, grab your tissues andyour journal and let's get
(01:26):
started.
Today's episode is a literaldream come true for me.
I have the chance to interviewone of the human beings that I
admire most in this life, ahuman being who not only
inspired my entire salescoaching business but was the
catalyst for my own discovery ofthe mystery school of
manifestation, not to mentionsomeone who saved my life in
(01:48):
more ways than one.
She is someone who hasaccomplished feats that should
have been impossible in hercircumstances, who went from
struggling with suicide,attempting to take her own life
at 15,.
Who hid in the bathroom of herhigh school her freshman year
because she didn't have anyfriends who had the same lunch
hour as her, to becoming thefirst student from her high
school to go to an Ivy Leagueuniversity, and an award-winning
(02:12):
playwright with an off-Broadwaydebut her first time trying, by
the time she was 21.
She is a master of the firsttime the first one.
She is a master of the firsttime, the first one, the
generational curse breaker, andsucceeds in miraculous ways the
first time, almost every time.
She is the greatest manifesterI have ever heard of.
(02:35):
She attracts dreamopportunities almost out of thin
air, things like paid and fulltrips to work and perform in
Greece with a professionaltheater company, free housing in
Manhattan not only once, but ontwo separate occasions
financial support and a researchfellowship for her work as an
artist.
Without even trying, she wentfrom the girl her high school
(02:58):
counselor smirked at when shesaid she didn't have much of a
backup plan or safe school, toco-teaching an Ivy League course
for the religion department atColumbia University before she'd
even graduated.
Columbia University went on towrite two articles about her
work and in the second one, theworld-renowned professor of
(03:20):
religion, mark C Taylor, calledher the best student he's taught
in 50 years.
This woman has taught me justabout everything I didn't know.
I didn't know aboutmanifestation, without even
really believing inmanifestation.
With more pleasure than I havethe words to describe, I am
(03:40):
beyond honored to introduce youto my daughter and now
collaborator, Alethea Harnish.
Alethea, this is a dream cometrue for me.
Thank you so much for doingthis episode.
Thank you for having me on.
So I invited Alethea on thepodcast for a few reasons.
She is the reason why I have abusiness in the first place.
(04:01):
Very long story short.
She taught me how to rapidly goaround the fear of rejection
and overcome my inner critic.
While I was trying to succeedin sales with very little
experience and the pressure ofthe world on my shoulders, I was
watching her get into characterone day for a show because
she's an actress as well when Inoticed that she had this
(04:22):
routine that she would do, shewould listen to a playlist and
she would really adopt thecharacter that she was
performing, as right that shewas playing.
And that is how I developed theconcept of the superstar sales
persona.
So I was able to copy heressentially and get into
character, and that's how I wasable to overcome my fear of
(04:43):
rejection and crush it at salesright out of the gate.
But today I really want to talkabout what we would call a Deb
Cobb pep talk.
So this is where mypreconceived notions about what
manifestation is and how itreally isn't a bunch of rituals
(05:03):
or tactics that we use to get athing, and so obviously Aletheia
has a different perspective andwhen I finally realized that I
didn't know everything is whenthings really started to take
off for me.
So in Aletheia's show offBroadway she does this whole
scene where the mom is a littleless than nice and it was really
(05:25):
embarrassing to watch.
And the content of it isn't allaccurate per se, because it's
obviously a show.
Right, it's part fiction, partfact.
But there was always thissituation in the house where I
thought I knew best and I wouldtell her about herself and tell
her what she needed to know, andthat happened one day when it
comes to manifestation.
So I wanted to bring her on totalk about that infamous Deb
Cobb pep talk.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So do you want to?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
tell that story.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, sure, I mean, first of all, thank you for
having me on.
I'm so excited to be here andtalk to you.
I feel like we've talked liketalking about doing this.
We had so many conversationsthat were like this is so much
fun, like this is just like whatwe should do.
You know, this should just bethe podcast, because you know we
enjoy having these kinds ofconversations, kind of like how
(06:14):
we used to always say when ourlives would be a good reality tv
show for sure we might getcanceled.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I might get canceled, I might get canceled.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But yeah, that infamous DevCon pep talk.
And when you told me you wantedme to talk about that, I was
like which one?
But you did not DevCon pep talknearly as much as you used to.
Really, I don't even rememberthe last one.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, it's because you put it in a show.
Oh, that's fair.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, and, to be fair , it was not your, your opinions
that were being expressed.
But, yeah, kudos to Georgianafor for performing that
monologue in a way that at leastit resonated.
Yeah, but so, yes, this thisinfamous DevCon pep talk it was.
It was during covid and youwere sitting at the kitchen
(07:14):
island and you're talking aboutcollaging.
We've been like planning ondoing lots of collages, these
collaging projects together, andit took us like forever to do
it.
Yeah, we just had like oldmagazines.
We're gonna we, you know wecollage together since I was a
kid, so we're gonna do thatbecause you know we're trying to
fill the time with covid andthen can't do anything else.
You decided you wanted to do amanifestation board, like a like
(07:40):
find things in the magazines,like you wanted to visualize and
put to bring into your life,and I was just, I was just like
yes, it was all about the book,it was all about the pool,
because I was just gonna findsome pictures I thought were
cool and make a little piece ofart or whatever.
But you, you wanted it to beabout, like you know, the life
you wanted and you were tryingto find a picture of a pool and
(08:07):
you couldn't find it orsomething.
And you're like I, like my,your goal was to put a pool in
the backyard of that house.
You wanted a pool in that house, or, or, if you're going to get
another house, it was like I'dhave a pool in the back, which,
like, I'm all for having a pool,I love pools, but I'd love to
(08:30):
be able to go to your house anduse your pool.
But the argument was that youwere doing this thing and you're
I don't remember exactly whatthe tactic you're going to use,
but it was like you aremanifesting the pool and you
were going to do certain stepsto get that pool into that
(08:51):
backyard.
And I was like, mom, I don'tthink that's how that works.
I don't think that's howmanifestation like works really
is.
Like like you can't, you can'tjust put your mind on the one
thing and then, like, ask for itto happen out of thin air, we
either would have to like, dothe work and and put and make
(09:11):
the money, put the pool in or bebroader about your, your
expectation, like what does thepool do for you, what is it
serving and what purpose wouldit serve in your life, instead
of being like I want thisparticular dynamic, you know,
this particular length of a poolin my backyard.
Like how do you, how do youachieve that feeling and be open
(09:34):
to whatever comes to fulfillthat for you?
And yeah, you did not take thatvery well, you were pretty set
on having that pool and then Igot the pool.
But it wasn't the pool that Iwanted Remember.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
when I moved to Satori, I got the pool.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
When, at Satori, satori, god, you're so right,
you're so right, you did get thepool.
You did get the pool, you gotthe damn pool damn it pool.
You did get the damn pool, butit was all the other things
weren't what you wanted, right,right, yeah, because you put
you're too focused on the pool,you didn't focus on the pool,
you didn't let other things uh,fall into place, right, but I
(10:18):
forgot.
I forgot that's what thatapartment was called and it
turned into an entire like wehave.
We got into a screamingargument over in the kitchen
about the vision you've got.
It was about the vision, visionand I, my argument, I remember
being like, it's not about thephysical thing, like you can't,
(10:38):
you can't use the spiritual,which I don't I don't love that
word and you mentioned thatbefore and we can talk about
that more later too.
You can't use the, the feeling,the energy to manifest, to like,
influence, like the physicalthing appearing.
You have to use this, thatenergy, to influence the energy
that will then create somethingphysical, but you don't know
(11:00):
what it's going to be becauseyou don't you, you don't have
that.
You know connection to thephysical in the same way, like
it know what it's going to bebecause you don't you, you don't
have that.
You know connection to thephysical in the same way.
Like it's about.
It's about the, the feeling,the energy, the being, and like
and you wouldn't want it to belike.
You can snap in thin air andappears this thing you want the
surprise of discovering what,whatever the fulfillment of that
(11:21):
wish and that and thataspiration is.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But you were, you were really set on the, on the
physical right the physicalmanifestation and using the
physical manifestation techniquewhich I do believe can work to
an extent, can work to an extent, but the lesson there is that
(11:50):
it wasn't the pool, right, itwas never the pool.
It wasn't that, it was the um.
To me what I found.
So what I find so remarkableabout how you manifest, is you
manifest dream opportunitiesthat allow you to fulfill what I
would say is more of a callingor a mission.
Right, like your art, your work, your influence, because
(12:13):
obviously I've known you sinceyou were born and the gifts that
you have.
Right, it's less about gettingthe thing and more about and
it's not the process of doinghard work to get the thing.
It's like what is the mostjoyful way right, that I can
operate at my highest potentialand the things come.
(12:36):
And that's what I think is sofascinating and that's what
really helped me go fromthinking that it's the technique
to get the stuff right.
So I talk about manifestingstuff versus manifesting spirit,
and I use the word spirit tomean non-physical conscious
energy.
It's just the creativeconsciousness is how I'm really
(12:57):
starting to speak about it.
That's what I think is you'vealways been so good at that
since you were a little kid islike letting go of your own.
How am I going to get my needsmet?
How am I going to get this done?
Right, like when you get anapartment and you're like I need
furniture, and boom, somebodyreaches out and like here's all
the furniture that you need.
Here you go, right, here you go, like I need an internship.
(13:21):
This, this girl walks out.
She's the president of thenational honor society her
senior year and finds out oneday that she needs to get
service hours.
And she's like, talking to meafter she gets home from school,
she, she comes in.
She's like I need to figure outhow I'm going to get service
hours for the national honorsociety.
I have to meet so many hours,right?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The deadline was coming up and I just had to put
it off.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Put it off, yeah, she literally says this to me and
she's like I'm gonna go, I thinkI'm gonna go shoot hoops
because she played basketballtoo.
I'm gonna go shoot some hoopsat the park down the street.
And she walks in an hour and ahalf or two hours later she's
like mom, you're never gonnabelieve this.
I'm like what she's like.
So I'm shooting hoops atgulfville park and this guy
comes up to me and is like howdid he?
(14:04):
You tell that part of the story, Cause I don't even.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I, I it was a while ago now, but I basically I was,
I was, I was shooting around andI obviously had I had been
playing since I was a child.
So I obviously like, no, likeyou can tell my body that I I've
done this for a very long time.
And so he comes to me.
He's like you know, like whatdo you do?
Like who are like, like, do youplay basketball?
And I told him I was likesenior local high school, I'm
(14:27):
the captain of the basketballteam.
Whatever grew up, grew upplaying with this, with this
team.
He was like well, I havebasketball camps coming up and
we need like, well, like, weneed like volunteers.
I can't pay you.
And I was like I actually likewould you be interested in
teaching?
And like teaching them.
And I was like I actually needvolunteer hours, that'd be great
.
And he's like and like how manyhours would it be?
(14:49):
And he, like he was like youknow, it'll be this many hours.
And it was like close to it.
He's like, but I'll, I'll write, I'll add a couple extra hours,
I don't worry about it.
Cool, awesome.
So I just went.
It was literally like I don'tknow, like two or three times
total that I just went andtaught these.
It was like a group of like 1010 year old boys, something like
gas cards too right and he gaveme.
(15:11):
Yeah, he did give me gas cards.
He did.
You're so right.
Yeah, and I looked at gas cardsand it didn't even drive that
far.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So, like you almost got paid volunteer service hours
and you guys, this is like thisis immediate, okay, this is
within hours.
She comes home.
She's like I got my volunteerservice hours and you guys, this
is like this is immediate, okay, this is within hours.
She comes home.
She's like I got my volunteerservice hours covered and it's
doing something that she lovesto do, right, that she loves to
do from the house.
Yeah, just walked out the door.
Hey, do you need volunteerhours?
Oh, by the way, here's the gasRight, that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think the.
I think the key on that too islike, of course I was stressed
about it, cause I was like I hadthree weeks to do, like 10
hours or something, which likeisn't much, but I was so busy I
mean I was the president of thebasketball team, I played
basketball, I was in the show orwhatever.
I had all this stuff going onbut the but there wasn't the
(16:01):
option, there was not an optionof not getting them done.
It was like I'm good, then thenext three weeks, I'm doing this
, x many service hours and ithas to happen.
It can't not happen.
There was no option to be like,well, I'll just give up my
presidency or whatever and notdo this thing Because I can't, I
(16:22):
don't have the time for it.
It was like I'm'm just gonna,I'll figure it out, I'll find
something, and that kind of likedetermination to do it and the
trust that something would wouldcome up that I could do, like.
I think like led to that, to mebeing open to that kind of
opportunity.
Yeah, um, it's how I think itworks.
I love that you just said that,because I think that that you
and I are the same and that'swhy I wanted it works.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I love that you just said that, because I think that
that you and I are the same, andthat's why I wanted to bring
aletheia on too, because wedon't always agree about
everything and yet.
So the point is, is that to meand I think aletheia would agree
with this there are as manyways to manifest as there are
people.
Essentially, it's not thetechnique, but I love what you
(17:04):
said there because I think it'sreally important, but it's
really important to distinguish.
It's the decision.
It's not an option.
Not to.
This is not an option and it'snot about.
It's not an option for me not tohave the pool Right, cause it
is an option for me not to havethe pool.
It's not mandatory that I havethe pool Right, but I think it's
(17:28):
really.
This is where I bring in the,the concept of when you follow
your Dharma, abundance alwaysfollows.
Because when I quit my jobright To go into sales and then
working for that business coach,right, because it didn't.
It was not in alignment with myvalues.
It was not an option for me notto succeed in sales coaching
(17:50):
because I had to provide for you.
It was not an option right,right, and so it's leaping
before the net appears, but inalignment with a greater purpose
.
I think that that's really whatyou agree.
You're shaking, she's noddingher head.
For those of you who can't.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yes, sorry, I always like to know when she agrees
with me yes, you keep the list,you know right on the record.
No, you're so right.
Um, yes, I'm shaking my head.
Yes, because I also.
I was thinking.
It's about intention.
It's about, I think, actionversus material.
I was.
It was the difference between,like me, getting this volunteer
(18:31):
hours in your pool is I wasn'tmanifesting a specific job or
like a specific object.
It was about I intend to dothis work, I intend to put that
energy and to actually helppeople with these volunteer
hours.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And with the pool scenario, it's like I, I
manifest.
I want to manifest physicalwater, concrete.
You know what I mean and Ithink even there's there could
have been a different way foryou to manifest that pool If it
were more about I want to beable to like have this, this
place of relaxation, in thisplace of like like something
that I know is going to likereally fuel my personal
(19:08):
development so that I can be abetter sales coach or be a
better whatever, like I can givethis to my kids and like even
even just just making that theand I know that was like the
background of like why youwanted the pool, obviously but
like because you were so likefocused on the object, you're
not able to bring all thosethings in.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Sounds to me like it's the greater purpose and
again it's going back to andthis is really what I want to,
and we'll focus on this in athree-part series as well.
But what I really want to getto is you told me once one day,
right, so she got into her dreamschool, columbia University
dream school.
The odds of her getting in arewere just so very, very slim.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Like I think that there are a dozen students in
our state that got in here Seven.
No, I don't know for sure, Ijust know.
I know that the statistic wasthat seven students from the
state of Indiana got intoHarvard yearly, and the woman
who I did my Harvard internshipwith, like, gave me that
(20:15):
statistic, and so it was likeit's comparable.
Columbia and Harvard'sadmissions are very comparable.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Right, right, and their acceptance rate was
already like around four, fourto 5% 5% yeah.
Yeah, really competitive, buteven more so because we're in
the middle of Indiana.
Most of our students come fromthe coast, which is another
discussion for another day.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
All of that or internationally, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Right, right, all of that to say the odds were so, so
stacked against you.
And this is this is what Ireally want people to hear is
that you told me one day right,like I'm literally living the
life that, like my 12 year oldself, would be obsessed with.
Right, like this is the life ofmy dreams and you've manifested
so many things that are justalmost impossible.
(21:00):
Like, how would you know tofind the connection, to get that
opportunity?
There's just no way.
Right, but when you determine Iam doing this for a greater
purpose, but it's also going tobe the most fulfilling thing,
right, it's like stepping intoalignment with what would I love
(21:24):
to create, be, do and have fromthat energy of limitlessness
right, limitlessness, but alsothere's a capacity of service
that I think is really important.
And this doesn't feel like work.
Right, because there's workinvolved.
Right, like you have toactually get up and take action,
but it's that leap of faith,it's the decision that this is
(21:44):
going to happen.
I am going to do this andyou've got your mind single,
focused on the impact of themanifestation versus the.
I'm going to get the pool right, because I got the pool, but
not in the way I wanted the pooland it wasn't.
It wasn't what I would haveenvisioned, right, but had you
know, perhaps I may be focusedon.
(22:05):
I want to create the mysteryschool of manifestation, to
impact people's lives right In abigger way, and I get to use my
gifts of speaking, motivatingright.
That energy of again living mydreams, but also from a space of
this, is my highest potential,right, these are my innate gifts
and talents.
(22:25):
And how can I shine that lightright?
Shine that light out and serveothers in my highest capacity
and the things come in myhighest capacity.
And the things come, the thingscome.
But it's making that decisionLike this is going to happen,
right, but?
and we'll talk about this in thenext episode.
(22:45):
But there are twists and turnsalong the way, right, and
figuring out what steps to takeand what path and what action
isn't really what you spend yourtime and energy doing.
It's more so being in theenergy of creativity, which,
(23:06):
again, that's your greatest gift, I think, well, among many,
right, but that gift ofcreativity and just sharing it
without really getting tooattached to where your needs are
going to be met from.
Your needs are always met, plusright, plus some in the most
(23:28):
odd defying I would saymiraculous, but you probably
wouldn't resonate with that wordeither.
But we really wanted to come onto show that you can indeed
manifest things that might takein your mind, in your brain,
right, and in the physical worldmight seem completely
impossible, like how in theworld am I going to create all
(23:50):
the actions, get all thecertifications, get in the same
room with certain people, right?
You can indeed manifest thosethings from the middle of
nowhere, with no connections,with not all the experience in
the world, right, but if it'spart of that, a bigger purpose,
I think that energy and makingthe decision, I'm going to make
(24:11):
this happen, but being open tothe path.
Looking differently than youthink that it might, actually
produces that fairytaleexistence, like whoa, like this
is incredible, like I literallyjust walked out the door and
here it is.
It's like that energy.
So it can be so much more funthan making it a mechanical
step-by-step.
(24:32):
Follow this step, do this thing, create the vision board right.
It can be so much morepractical.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Go ahead, right?
No, I was just agreeing withyou, and I think part of it is
also having the patience to notone expect it to come
immediately, because thecircumstance or the example of
the volunteer hours is one ofthe more fun like this happened
in the example of the volunteerhours is is one of the more fun
like this happened in the matterfor hours.
Yeah, but you know, there'salso, there's also things that
(25:04):
I've manifested not well, and Iand I don't like that word, but
you know, manifested me neither,but that's how it's.
Yeah, over over the course of acouple years, without really
knowing that's what I wasmanifesting.
But it's like you know, I havethe idea it'd be really cool to,
wouldn't it be really crazy, ifI taught a course at columbia?
And then it's like, oh my gosh,no, that'd be crazy.
(25:25):
And then you start thinkingthat's it conceded of me, to
think like whatever, blah, blah,blah, you brush it off, and
then, a year and a half later,it's being offered to you to do
that and it it's like and thenit's happening and I'm like,
actually, do I even want this?
It's actually really scary andit's gonna be very difficult.
What's it gonna do?
And, of course it's like, youknow, the all the other emotions
that are human and normalhappen alongside both of those
(25:45):
things.
But the fact that I had thatthought and like, ended up
developing all the steps thatrequire required for that to
actually come into being,happened over the course of a
couple of years.
But I was open to that idea andwas able to allow my imagination
(26:09):
to go to those kinds of places.
So that possibility was open tome, even if it's just
subconscious possibility wasopen to me, even if it's just
subconscious.
You know, at that point, youknow, I think that that's part
of that's not the whole thing,you know, that's not the whole.
Like I could just having thatone idea that one time and then
just going about my normalstudies, it wouldn't have worked
.
But you know, like I dideverything that I needed to do
(26:33):
and my professor reciprocatedeverything and we were able to
build that relationship and worktogether so that we were able
to do it.
It's a collaborative thing andit's a it's.
Then it takes time and theright intention, but, yeah, I
think it's more fun that way, or, you know, and I think the
(26:55):
point was that it it doesn'talways happen immediately, right
, and then it's about notlimiting yourself and your and
your beliefs around yourself andthe you know, but I'm sure
we'll talk more about that inthe next couple episodes.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But right, right, yeah.
So it's about what I'm hearingyou say is it's about really
dreaming bigger?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Right, dreaming bigger, and it's that feeling of
wouldn't it be incredible if?
And wouldn't it be incredibleReally?
Like there's, there aren'treally words and there aren't
words for sitting in theaudience and watching you on
stage.
There just aren't words forthat.
It's almost like if I had afairy godmother and I could be
(27:40):
like wouldn't this be amazing if?
Right, but versus I really wantto pull, I really want to pull,
or I really want a mansion, orI really want this car, or I
really want these things.
It goes so much deeper thanthings and it's somewhat
embarrassing.
It's embarrassing kind of, butI mean it was years ago, but all
that to say.
(28:01):
When I was working at theChirper Center, one of the most
impactful things for me wasbeing able to speak to people
all over the world and realizethat people and I'm talking
Timbuktu I did not know thatTimbuktu was an actual place,
right, we always talk aboutTimbuktu.
I did not know that Timbuktuwas an actual place, right, we
always talk about Timbuktu.
It was embarrassing in a way,but literally talking to people
(28:21):
all over the globe andrecognizing that as human beings
, we all essentially want thesame things, and it's deeper
than the physical stuff, becausethe physical stuff isn't what
we lay in bed at night, right,and dream about, or the things
we dream about when we'rechildren.
(28:42):
They don't fulfill us in thesame way.
That, and it's different.
It looks a little bit differentfor everyone, right, but living
your dream life is to be ableto create and perform and to
transform and to teach, right Atthat level where you're able to
really share your gifts, right,like that's something that
fulfills you on a different anddeeper level that having a pool,
(29:07):
right, or a mansion or aphysical thing could never do.
It activates something else, andthat's what we're going to be
talking about in the nextepisode is what is it that we're
activating?
Right?
And I think that these arequestions that we're asking
versus proving, because I don'tknow that you can even prove
anything at the end of the day,especially when it comes to
(29:30):
non-physical things.
Right, it's a little bit moredifficult to test, but we're
going to be speaking aboutconsciousness and energy and the
history.
We're going to get a little bitinto Alethea's course that she
taught.
Which is the coolest name everHippie physics, right?
Did I get that right?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Hippie, physics, counterculture, cyber culture.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, it's very cool, very, very cool.
So I'll be talking about thatin the next episode and, yeah,
thanks for listening.
We will see you soon.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
All right.
Thank you for listening totoday's episode.
We hope that you enjoyed it.
Stay tuned, because Alethea andI are doing a three-part series
diving much deeper into theconsciousness and energy of
manifestation, and if you'recurious about her journey or to
get in touch with her to discussher work, you can visit her at
aletheaharnishcom.
That'sA-L-E-T-H-E-A-H-A-R-N-I-S-H dot
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com.
And, if you will soon discover,we are doing something
completely different withregards to energy and sales and
the spiritual art of sales, andI'm offering things that I've
never before offered atinvestment levels that I have
never before offered, to makethis work as accessible as
possible.
And there is a deeper reasonfor that too, and that is coming
(31:03):
.
However, if you're interestedin learning more about that,
please listen to the very end ofthis show to get in touch.
Otherwise, I'm sending you allof my love and please remember
the odds may be stacked againstyou, but you are not a statistic
.
We'll see you next time.
(31:25):
Thank you for listening to themystery school of manifestation.
We hope that you enjoyed it.
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What do you do when the traditional manifestation
techniques just don't work foryou or they stop working?
In today's episode, I amtalking to the best manifester
that I've ever heard of.
She consistently blows my mindwith all that she is able to
manifest and how quickly shedoes it.
This, my friends, is thedifference between staying stuck
(00:21):
on the manifestation hamsterwheel and manifesting the life,
career or business only the10-year-old version of yourself
could dream up.
Stay tuned.
Welcome to the Mystery Schoolof Manifestation, where we
cannot stop talking about theconnection between all things
physical and metaphysical andthe magic of manifestation.
(00:41):
My name is Deb Cobb and I'mobsessed with teaching you how
to be in the world, but not ofthe world, so you can
consciously co-create a life andbusiness that defies the odds,
regardless of what you'vecreated up to this point.
I'm just a small-town girl fromrural Indiana who started my
spiritual journey as a poor,single mom once high school
dropout, barely able to makeends meet.
But through my connection withthe superconscious, make ends
(01:03):
meet.
But through my connection withthe super conscious, I've been
able to build a successfulonline business from the ground
up, without following the rulesor sleazy sales tactics.
I was even able to send mydaughter to the Ivy leagues.
Now our story is raw andunfiltered, and I'm more than a
little controversial, so bewarned if you're easily offended
or have children in the roomwhile you listen.
That said, if you're ready tostep fully into your version of
heaven on earth, while you canstill enjoy it in the physical,
buckle up, grab your tissues andyour journal and let's get
(01:26):
started.
Today's episode is a literaldream come true for me.
I have the chance to interviewone of the human beings that I
admire most in this life, ahuman being who not only
inspired my entire salescoaching business but was the
catalyst for my own discovery ofthe mystery school of
manifestation, not to mentionsomeone who saved my life in
(01:48):
more ways than one.
She is someone who hasaccomplished feats that should
have been impossible in hercircumstances, who went from
struggling with suicide,attempting to take her own life
at 15,.
Who hid in the bathroom of herhigh school her freshman year
because she didn't have anyfriends who had the same lunch
hour as her, to becoming thefirst student from her high
school to go to an Ivy Leagueuniversity, and an award-winning
(02:12):
playwright with an off-Broadwaydebut her first time trying, by
the time she was 21.
She is a master of the firsttime the first one.
She is a master of the firsttime, the first one, the
generational curse breaker, andsucceeds in miraculous ways the
first time, almost every time.
She is the greatest manifesterI have ever heard of.
(02:35):
She attracts dreamopportunities almost out of thin
air, things like paid and fulltrips to work and perform in
Greece with a professionaltheater company, free housing in
Manhattan not only once, but ontwo separate occasions
financial support and a researchfellowship for her work as an
artist.
Without even trying, she wentfrom the girl her high school
(02:58):
counselor smirked at when shesaid she didn't have much of a
backup plan or safe school, toco-teaching an Ivy League course
for the religion department atColumbia University before she'd
even graduated.
Columbia University went on towrite two articles about her
work and in the second one, theworld-renowned professor of
(03:20):
religion, mark C Taylor, calledher the best student he's taught
in 50 years.
This woman has taught me justabout everything I didn't know.
I didn't know aboutmanifestation, without even
really believing inmanifestation.
With more pleasure than I havethe words to describe, I am
(03:40):
beyond honored to introduce youto my daughter and now
collaborator, Alethea Harnish.
Alethea, this is a dream cometrue for me.
Thank you so much for doingthis episode.
Thank you for having me on.
So I invited Alethea on thepodcast for a few reasons.
She is the reason why I have abusiness in the first place.
(04:01):
Very long story short.
She taught me how to rapidly goaround the fear of rejection
and overcome my inner critic.
While I was trying to succeedin sales with very little
experience and the pressure ofthe world on my shoulders, I was
watching her get into characterone day for a show because
she's an actress as well when Inoticed that she had this
(04:22):
routine that she would do, shewould listen to a playlist and
she would really adopt thecharacter that she was
performing, as right that shewas playing.
And that is how I developed theconcept of the superstar sales
persona.
So I was able to copy heressentially and get into
character, and that's how I wasable to overcome my fear of
(04:43):
rejection and crush it at salesright out of the gate.
But today I really want to talkabout what we would call a Deb
Cobb pep talk.
So this is where mypreconceived notions about what
manifestation is and how itreally isn't a bunch of rituals
(05:03):
or tactics that we use to get athing, and so obviously Aletheia
has a different perspective andwhen I finally realized that I
didn't know everything is whenthings really started to take
off for me.
So in Aletheia's show offBroadway she does this whole
scene where the mom is a littleless than nice and it was really
(05:25):
embarrassing to watch.
And the content of it isn't allaccurate per se, because it's
obviously a show.
Right, it's part fiction, partfact.
But there was always thissituation in the house where I
thought I knew best and I wouldtell her about herself and tell
her what she needed to know, andthat happened one day when it
comes to manifestation.
So I wanted to bring her on totalk about that infamous Deb
Cobb pep talk.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So do you want to?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
tell that story.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, sure, I mean, first of all, thank you for
having me on.
I'm so excited to be here andtalk to you.
I feel like we've talked liketalking about doing this.
We had so many conversationsthat were like this is so much
fun, like this is just like whatwe should do.
You know, this should just bethe podcast, because you know we
enjoy having these kinds ofconversations, kind of like how
(06:14):
we used to always say when ourlives would be a good reality tv
show for sure we might getcanceled.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I might get canceled, I might get canceled.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But yeah, that infamous DevCon pep talk.
And when you told me you wantedme to talk about that, I was
like which one?
But you did not DevCon pep talknearly as much as you used to.
Really, I don't even rememberthe last one.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, it's because you put it in a show.
Oh, that's fair.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, and, to be fair , it was not your, your opinions
that were being expressed.
But, yeah, kudos to Georgianafor for performing that
monologue in a way that at leastit resonated.
Yeah, but so, yes, this thisinfamous DevCon pep talk it was.
It was during covid and youwere sitting at the kitchen
(07:14):
island and you're talking aboutcollaging.
We've been like planning ondoing lots of collages, these
collaging projects together, andit took us like forever to do
it.
Yeah, we just had like oldmagazines.
We're gonna we, you know wecollage together since I was a
kid, so we're gonna do thatbecause you know we're trying to
fill the time with covid andthen can't do anything else.
You decided you wanted to do amanifestation board, like a like
(07:40):
find things in the magazines,like you wanted to visualize and
put to bring into your life,and I was just, I was just like
yes, it was all about the book,it was all about the pool,
because I was just gonna findsome pictures I thought were
cool and make a little piece ofart or whatever.
But you, you wanted it to beabout, like you know, the life
you wanted and you were tryingto find a picture of a pool and
(08:07):
you couldn't find it orsomething.
And you're like I, like my,your goal was to put a pool in
the backyard of that house.
You wanted a pool in that house, or, or, if you're going to get
another house, it was like I'dhave a pool in the back, which,
like, I'm all for having a pool,I love pools, but I'd love to
(08:30):
be able to go to your house anduse your pool.
But the argument was that youwere doing this thing and you're
I don't remember exactly whatthe tactic you're going to use,
but it was like you aremanifesting the pool and you
were going to do certain stepsto get that pool into that
(08:51):
backyard.
And I was like, mom, I don'tthink that's how that works.
I don't think that's howmanifestation like works really
is.
Like like you can't, you can'tjust put your mind on the one
thing and then, like, ask for itto happen out of thin air, we
either would have to like, dothe work and and put and make
(09:11):
the money, put the pool in or bebroader about your, your
expectation, like what does thepool do for you, what is it
serving and what purpose wouldit serve in your life, instead
of being like I want thisparticular dynamic, you know,
this particular length of a poolin my backyard.
Like how do you, how do youachieve that feeling and be open
(09:34):
to whatever comes to fulfillthat for you?
And yeah, you did not take thatvery well, you were pretty set
on having that pool and then Igot the pool.
But it wasn't the pool that Iwanted Remember.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
when I moved to Satori, I got the pool.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
When, at Satori, satori, god, you're so right,
you're so right, you did get thepool.
You did get the pool, you gotthe damn pool damn it pool.
You did get the damn pool, butit was all the other things
weren't what you wanted, right,right, yeah, because you put
you're too focused on the pool,you didn't focus on the pool,
you didn't let other things uh,fall into place, right, but I
(10:18):
forgot.
I forgot that's what thatapartment was called and it
turned into an entire like wehave.
We got into a screamingargument over in the kitchen
about the vision you've got.
It was about the vision, visionand I, my argument, I remember
being like, it's not about thephysical thing, like you can't,
(10:38):
you can't use the spiritual,which I don't I don't love that
word and you mentioned thatbefore and we can talk about
that more later too.
You can't use the, the feeling,the energy to manifest, to like,
influence, like the physicalthing appearing.
You have to use this, thatenergy, to influence the energy
that will then create somethingphysical, but you don't know
(11:00):
what it's going to be becauseyou don't you, you don't have
that.
You know connection to thephysical in the same way, like
it know what it's going to bebecause you don't you, you don't
have that.
You know connection to thephysical in the same way.
Like it's about.
It's about the, the feeling,the energy, the being, and like
and you wouldn't want it to belike.
You can snap in thin air andappears this thing you want the
surprise of discovering what,whatever the fulfillment of that
(11:21):
wish and that and thataspiration is.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
But you were, you were really set on the, on the
physical right the physicalmanifestation and using the
physical manifestation techniquewhich I do believe can work to
an extent, can work to an extent, but the lesson there is that
(11:50):
it wasn't the pool, right, itwas never the pool.
It wasn't that, it was the um.
To me what I found.
So what I find so remarkableabout how you manifest, is you
manifest dream opportunitiesthat allow you to fulfill what I
would say is more of a callingor a mission.
Right, like your art, your work, your influence, because
(12:13):
obviously I've known you sinceyou were born and the gifts that
you have.
Right, it's less about gettingthe thing and more about and
it's not the process of doinghard work to get the thing.
It's like what is the mostjoyful way right, that I can
operate at my highest potentialand the things come.
(12:36):
And that's what I think is sofascinating and that's what
really helped me go fromthinking that it's the technique
to get the stuff right.
So I talk about manifestingstuff versus manifesting spirit,
and I use the word spirit tomean non-physical conscious
energy.
It's just the creativeconsciousness is how I'm really
(12:57):
starting to speak about it.
That's what I think is you'vealways been so good at that
since you were a little kid islike letting go of your own.
How am I going to get my needsmet?
How am I going to get this done?
Right, like when you get anapartment and you're like I need
furniture, and boom, somebodyreaches out and like here's all
the furniture that you need.
Here you go, right, here you go, like I need an internship.
(13:21):
This, this girl walks out.
She's the president of thenational honor society her
senior year and finds out oneday that she needs to get
service hours.
And she's like, talking to meafter she gets home from school,
she, she comes in.
She's like I need to figure outhow I'm going to get service
hours for the national honorsociety.
I have to meet so many hours,right?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The deadline was coming up and I just had to put
it off.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Put it off, yeah, she literally says this to me and
she's like I'm gonna go, I thinkI'm gonna go shoot hoops
because she played basketballtoo.
I'm gonna go shoot some hoopsat the park down the street.
And she walks in an hour and ahalf or two hours later she's
like mom, you're never gonnabelieve this.
I'm like what she's like.
So I'm shooting hoops atgulfville park and this guy
comes up to me and is like howdid he?
(14:04):
You tell that part of the story, Cause I don't even.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I, I it was a while ago now, but I basically I was,
I was, I was shooting around andI obviously had I had been
playing since I was a child.
So I obviously like, no, likeyou can tell my body that I I've
done this for a very long time.
And so he comes to me.
He's like you know, like whatdo you do?
Like who are like, like, do youplay basketball?
And I told him I was likesenior local high school, I'm
(14:27):
the captain of the basketballteam.
Whatever grew up, grew upplaying with this, with this
team.
He was like well, I havebasketball camps coming up and
we need like, well, like, weneed like volunteers.
I can't pay you.
And I was like I actually likewould you be interested in
teaching?
And like teaching them.
And I was like I actually needvolunteer hours, that'd be great
.
And he's like and like how manyhours would it be?
(14:49):
And he, like he was like youknow, it'll be this many hours.
And it was like close to it.
He's like, but I'll, I'll write, I'll add a couple extra hours,
I don't worry about it.
Cool, awesome.
So I just went.
It was literally like I don'tknow, like two or three times
total that I just went andtaught these.
It was like a group of like 1010 year old boys, something like
gas cards too right and he gaveme.
(15:11):
Yeah, he did give me gas cards.
He did.
You're so right.
Yeah, and I looked at gas cardsand it didn't even drive that
far.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So, like you almost got paid volunteer service hours
and you guys, this is like thisis immediate, okay, this is
within hours.
She comes home.
She's like I got my volunteerservice hours and you guys, this
is like this is immediate, okay, this is within hours.
She comes home.
She's like I got my volunteerservice hours covered and it's
doing something that she lovesto do, right, that she loves to
do from the house.
Yeah, just walked out the door.
Hey, do you need volunteerhours?
Oh, by the way, here's the gasRight, that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think the.
I think the key on that too islike, of course I was stressed
about it, cause I was like I hadthree weeks to do, like 10
hours or something, which likeisn't much, but I was so busy I
mean I was the president of thebasketball team, I played
basketball, I was in the show orwhatever.
I had all this stuff going onbut the but there wasn't the
(16:01):
option, there was not an optionof not getting them done.
It was like I'm good, then thenext three weeks, I'm doing this
, x many service hours and ithas to happen.
It can't not happen.
There was no option to be like,well, I'll just give up my
presidency or whatever and notdo this thing Because I can't, I
(16:22):
don't have the time for it.
It was like I'm'm just gonna,I'll figure it out, I'll find
something, and that kind of likedetermination to do it and the
trust that something would wouldcome up that I could do, like.
I think like led to that, to mebeing open to that kind of
opportunity.
Yeah, um, it's how I think itworks.
I love that you just said that,because I think that that you
and I are the same and that'swhy I wanted it works.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I love that you just said that, because I think that
that you and I are the same, andthat's why I wanted to bring
aletheia on too, because wedon't always agree about
everything and yet.
So the point is, is that to meand I think aletheia would agree
with this there are as manyways to manifest as there are
people.
Essentially, it's not thetechnique, but I love what you
(17:04):
said there because I think it'sreally important, but it's
really important to distinguish.
It's the decision.
It's not an option.
Not to.
This is not an option and it'snot about.
It's not an option for me not tohave the pool Right, cause it
is an option for me not to havethe pool.
It's not mandatory that I havethe pool Right, but I think it's
(17:28):
really.
This is where I bring in the,the concept of when you follow
your Dharma, abundance alwaysfollows.
Because when I quit my jobright To go into sales and then
working for that business coach,right, because it didn't.
It was not in alignment with myvalues.
It was not an option for me notto succeed in sales coaching
(17:50):
because I had to provide for you.
It was not an option right,right, and so it's leaping
before the net appears, but inalignment with a greater purpose
.
I think that that's really whatyou agree.
You're shaking, she's noddingher head.
For those of you who can't.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yes, sorry, I always like to know when she agrees
with me yes, you keep the list,you know right on the record.
No, you're so right.
Um, yes, I'm shaking my head.
Yes, because I also.
I was thinking.
It's about intention.
It's about, I think, actionversus material.
I was.
It was the difference between,like me, getting this volunteer
(18:31):
hours in your pool is I wasn'tmanifesting a specific job or
like a specific object.
It was about I intend to dothis work, I intend to put that
energy and to actually helppeople with these volunteer
hours.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And with the pool scenario, it's like I, I
manifest.
I want to manifest physicalwater, concrete.
You know what I mean and Ithink even there's there could
have been a different way foryou to manifest that pool If it
were more about I want to beable to like have this, this
place of relaxation, in thisplace of like like something
that I know is going to likereally fuel my personal
(19:08):
development so that I can be abetter sales coach or be a
better whatever, like I can givethis to my kids and like even
even just just making that theand I know that was like the
background of like why youwanted the pool, obviously but
like because you were so likefocused on the object, you're
not able to bring all thosethings in.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Sounds to me like it's the greater purpose and
again it's going back to andthis is really what I want to,
and we'll focus on this in athree-part series as well.
But what I really want to getto is you told me once one day,
right, so she got into her dreamschool, columbia University
dream school.
The odds of her getting in arewere just so very, very slim.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Like I think that there are a dozen students in
our state that got in here Seven.
No, I don't know for sure, Ijust know.
I know that the statistic wasthat seven students from the
state of Indiana got intoHarvard yearly, and the woman
who I did my Harvard internshipwith, like, gave me that
(20:15):
statistic, and so it was likeit's comparable.
Columbia and Harvard'sadmissions are very comparable.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Right, right, and their acceptance rate was
already like around four, fourto 5% 5% yeah.
Yeah, really competitive, buteven more so because we're in
the middle of Indiana.
Most of our students come fromthe coast, which is another
discussion for another day.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
All of that or internationally, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Right, right, all of that to say the odds were so, so
stacked against you.
And this is this is what Ireally want people to hear is
that you told me one day right,like I'm literally living the
life that, like my 12 year oldself, would be obsessed with.
Right, like this is the life ofmy dreams and you've manifested
so many things that are justalmost impossible.
(21:00):
Like, how would you know tofind the connection, to get that
opportunity?
There's just no way.
Right, but when you determine Iam doing this for a greater
purpose, but it's also going tobe the most fulfilling thing,
right, it's like stepping intoalignment with what would I love
(21:24):
to create, be, do and have fromthat energy of limitlessness
right, limitlessness, but alsothere's a capacity of service
that I think is really important.
And this doesn't feel like work.
Right, because there's workinvolved.
Right, like you have toactually get up and take action,
but it's that leap of faith,it's the decision that this is
(21:44):
going to happen.
I am going to do this andyou've got your mind single,
focused on the impact of themanifestation versus the.
I'm going to get the pool right, because I got the pool, but
not in the way I wanted the pooland it wasn't.
It wasn't what I would haveenvisioned, right, but had you
know, perhaps I may be focusedon.
(22:05):
I want to create the mysteryschool of manifestation, to
impact people's lives right In abigger way, and I get to use my
gifts of speaking, motivatingright.
That energy of again living mydreams, but also from a space of
this, is my highest potential,right, these are my innate gifts
and talents.
(22:25):
And how can I shine that lightright?
Shine that light out and serveothers in my highest capacity
and the things come in myhighest capacity.
And the things come, the thingscome.
But it's making that decisionLike this is going to happen,
right, but?
and we'll talk about this in thenext episode.
(22:45):
But there are twists and turnsalong the way, right, and
figuring out what steps to takeand what path and what action
isn't really what you spend yourtime and energy doing.
It's more so being in theenergy of creativity, which,
(23:06):
again, that's your greatest gift, I think, well, among many,
right, but that gift ofcreativity and just sharing it
without really getting tooattached to where your needs are
going to be met from.
Your needs are always met, plusright, plus some in the most
(23:28):
odd defying I would saymiraculous, but you probably
wouldn't resonate with that wordeither.
But we really wanted to come onto show that you can indeed
manifest things that might takein your mind, in your brain,
right, and in the physical worldmight seem completely
impossible, like how in theworld am I going to create all
(23:50):
the actions, get all thecertifications, get in the same
room with certain people, right?
You can indeed manifest thosethings from the middle of
nowhere, with no connections,with not all the experience in
the world, right, but if it'spart of that, a bigger purpose,
I think that energy and makingthe decision, I'm going to make
(24:11):
this happen, but being open tothe path.
Looking differently than youthink that it might, actually
produces that fairytaleexistence, like whoa, like this
is incredible, like I literallyjust walked out the door and
here it is.
It's like that energy.
So it can be so much more funthan making it a mechanical
step-by-step.
(24:32):
Follow this step, do this thing, create the vision board right.
It can be so much morepractical.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Go ahead, right?
No, I was just agreeing withyou, and I think part of it is
also having the patience to notone expect it to come
immediately, because thecircumstance or the example of
the volunteer hours is one ofthe more fun like this happened
in the example of the volunteerhours is is one of the more fun
like this happened in the matterfor hours.
Yeah, but you know, there'salso, there's also things that
(25:04):
I've manifested not well, and Iand I don't like that word, but
you know, manifested me neither,but that's how it's.
Yeah, over over the course of acouple years, without really
knowing that's what I wasmanifesting.
But it's like you know, I havethe idea it'd be really cool to,
wouldn't it be really crazy, ifI taught a course at columbia?
And then it's like, oh my gosh,no, that'd be crazy.
(25:25):
And then you start thinkingthat's it conceded of me, to
think like whatever, blah, blah,blah, you brush it off, and
then, a year and a half later,it's being offered to you to do
that and it it's like and thenit's happening and I'm like,
actually, do I even want this?
It's actually really scary andit's gonna be very difficult.
What's it gonna do?
And, of course it's like, youknow, the all the other emotions
that are human and normalhappen alongside both of those
(25:45):
things.
But the fact that I had thatthought and like, ended up
developing all the steps thatrequire required for that to
actually come into being,happened over the course of a
couple of years.
But I was open to that idea andwas able to allow my imagination
(26:09):
to go to those kinds of places.
So that possibility was open tome, even if it's just
subconscious possibility wasopen to me, even if it's just
subconscious.
You know, at that point, youknow, I think that that's part
of that's not the whole thing,you know, that's not the whole.
Like I could just having thatone idea that one time and then
just going about my normalstudies, it wouldn't have worked
.
But you know, like I dideverything that I needed to do
(26:33):
and my professor reciprocatedeverything and we were able to
build that relationship and worktogether so that we were able
to do it.
It's a collaborative thing andit's a it's.
Then it takes time and theright intention, but, yeah, I
think it's more fun that way, or, you know, and I think the
(26:55):
point was that it it doesn'talways happen immediately, right
, and then it's about notlimiting yourself and your and
your beliefs around yourself andthe you know, but I'm sure
we'll talk more about that inthe next couple episodes.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But right, right, yeah.
So it's about what I'm hearingyou say is it's about really
dreaming bigger?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Right, dreaming bigger, and it's that feeling of
wouldn't it be incredible if?
And wouldn't it be incredibleReally?
Like there's, there aren'treally words and there aren't
words for sitting in theaudience and watching you on
stage.
There just aren't words forthat.
It's almost like if I had afairy godmother and I could be
(27:40):
like wouldn't this be amazing if?
Right, but versus I really wantto pull, I really want to pull,
or I really want a mansion, orI really want this car, or I
really want these things.
It goes so much deeper thanthings and it's somewhat
embarrassing.
It's embarrassing kind of, butI mean it was years ago, but all
that to say.
(28:01):
When I was working at theChirper Center, one of the most
impactful things for me wasbeing able to speak to people
all over the world and realizethat people and I'm talking
Timbuktu I did not know thatTimbuktu was an actual place,
right, we always talk aboutTimbuktu.
I did not know that Timbuktuwas an actual place, right, we
always talk about Timbuktu.
It was embarrassing in a way,but literally talking to people
(28:21):
all over the globe andrecognizing that as human beings
, we all essentially want thesame things, and it's deeper
than the physical stuff, becausethe physical stuff isn't what
we lay in bed at night, right,and dream about, or the things
we dream about when we'rechildren.
(28:42):
They don't fulfill us in thesame way.
That, and it's different.
It looks a little bit differentfor everyone, right, but living
your dream life is to be ableto create and perform and to
transform and to teach, right Atthat level where you're able to
really share your gifts, right,like that's something that
fulfills you on a different anddeeper level that having a pool,
(29:07):
right, or a mansion or aphysical thing could never do.
It activates something else, andthat's what we're going to be
talking about in the nextepisode is what is it that we're
activating?
Right?
And I think that these arequestions that we're asking
versus proving, because I don'tknow that you can even prove
anything at the end of the day,especially when it comes to
(29:30):
non-physical things.
Right, it's a little bit moredifficult to test, but we're
going to be speaking aboutconsciousness and energy and the
history.
We're going to get a little bitinto Alethea's course that she
taught.
Which is the coolest name everHippie physics, right?
Did I get that right?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Hippie, physics, counterculture, cyber culture.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, it's very cool, very, very cool.
So I'll be talking about thatin the next episode and, yeah,
thanks for listening.
We will see you soon.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
All right.
Thank you for listening totoday's episode.
We hope that you enjoyed it.
Stay tuned, because Alethea andI are doing a three-part series
diving much deeper into theconsciousness and energy of
manifestation, and if you'recurious about her journey or to
get in touch with her to discussher work, you can visit her at
aletheaharnishcom.
That'sA-L-E-T-H-E-A-H-A-R-N-I-S-H dot
(30:39):
com.
And, if you will soon discover,we are doing something
completely different withregards to energy and sales and
the spiritual art of sales, andI'm offering things that I've
never before offered atinvestment levels that I have
never before offered, to makethis work as accessible as
possible.
And there is a deeper reasonfor that too, and that is coming
(31:03):
.
However, if you're interestedin learning more about that,
please listen to the very end ofthis show to get in touch.
Otherwise, I'm sending you allof my love and please remember
the odds may be stacked againstyou, but you are not a statistic
.
We'll see you next time.
(31:25):
Thank you for listening to themystery school of manifestation.
We hope that you enjoyed it.
And if you just so happen to bea service-based business owner,
coach or consultant and this isresonating with you and you're
curious about what it would belike to align your sales process
, offers and marketing with theprinciples of abundance, then
you are in luck.
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We have created three new waysto work together and a fraction
of my typical one-to-oneinvestment levels, but we only
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