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September 21, 2025 23 mins

Moving apartments shouldn't feel like a fight to the death, yet that's exactly what it's become in New York City. Picture this: you're balanced on a pedestal, unable to step off too early (landlords won't show you apartments a month before your move date), forced to wait until the perfect moment when you must sprint against countless others toward the same limited housing options. This absurd reality perfectly captures how we've complicated the most basic human needs.

Why do landlords insist on showing apartments only two weeks before availability? Why do employers require multiple interviews for straightforward positions? The pattern is clear - those in positions of power create unnecessary obstacles, turning life's essentials into exhausting competitions. During my recent apartment hunt, every interaction with male landlords and agents reminded me how much harder they make these processes than necessary.

This manufactured difficulty extends beyond housing into our broader social fabric. We're witnessing a culture where violent rhetoric is defended as "opinion" until it manifests as physical violence, at which point everyone expresses shock while refusing accountability. The recent controversy surrounding Jimmy Kimmel's show being pulled after his comments about political violence highlights this hypocrisy. Those claiming to champion free speech are often the first to silence opposing viewpoints.

America's complicated relationship with violence deserves honest examination. While I'm not condoning violence, it's ahistorical to claim it "never solves anything" in a country literally founded through violent revolution. The deeper issue is why people who claim to dislike others can't simply leave them alone - instead, they actively work to make life harder for those with different identities or perspectives.

We live on a floating rock in space where none of these complications are inherently necessary. Life could be so much simpler if we chose respect and coexistence over obstruction and hostility. This isn't just wishful thinking - it's a reminder that the systems making our lives difficult were created by people and can be changed by people. The question is: when will we decide that life doesn't have to be this hard?

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Daijné (00:01):
Is this thing on?
Hello, hello, uh-oh, anotheryapper with a mic.
Hello everyone, and welcomeback to the napkin in Between
podcast.
I am your host, Daijné Jones.
I hope everyone's been having agood week, except for that

(00:21):
orange drink, lady, of course.
Oy, you guys, it has been acrazy couple of weeks for me.
I, my head is spinning.
Today we're not.
I know y'all come here foreducation and I love to keep
y'all informed and educated, but, girl, we ain't reading and

(00:41):
writing today.
Today we are ranting because I,these past couple weeks, have
been absolutely insane and it isall because I am doing the top
one worst adult activities.
I know, I'm not talking aboutgoing to a JLo concert, I'm
talking about moving.
I hate moving.
Me and my roommate arecurrently well, not anymore.

(01:03):
We finally finalized everything, but these last couple of weeks
we have been moving.
Me and my roommate arecurrently well, not anymore.
We finally finalized everything, but these last couple of weeks
we have been moving.
And so last week I missed youguys on the podcast.
I honestly it slipped my mindbecause we've been looking at
apartments and trying to, likeyou know, budget, like, figure
everything out, and so itslipped my mind to record an
episode and so I think it waslike late Friday night maybe

(01:29):
like early Saturday, like atafter midnight on Friday I
filmed an episode and then Iwoke up Saturday super early
like did all of the editing blah, blah, blah go to export the
episode and it disappeared, poof, into thin fucking air.
And I was like hello, likewhere did it go?

(01:51):
So I'm like looking through mylaptop, I turned my laptop off
and back on.
I did like a restoring thingquite literally disappeared into
thin fucking air.
So I was like okay, um, I guesswe won't have a podcast episode
this week, which I fucking hate.
I hate missing weeks because Ilove I really do love filming

(02:13):
the pod and editing anduploading it and seeing your
guys' responses to it.
Like it's literally like one ofthe best parts of my week is
just like putting the pod out,because I like this has always
been my dream.
I've always wanted a podcast.
I've actually wanted a talkshow.
I would love to have a talkshow where, like I have guests
come on, we interview them andtalk.
That's like well, like y'allwho are here with me just

(02:34):
sitting in my bed, once we getthere, we're gonna look back to
this and be like holy shit, likezam, that's crazy anyway.
So that was last week and thenagain again.
On top of all of that, me and myroommate are trying to move and
something I've learned aboutmoving, especially in New York
City, is that landlords make theprocess so much harder.

(02:58):
If I had to compare moving inNew York City to anything in the
world, I would probably compareit to the Hunger Games day one,
like when if you've seen theHunger Games, they have to stand
on these like pedestals andthen the cornucopia is in the
middle with like all theseweapons and like um resources

(03:21):
and backpacks and different shitlike that.
If I had to compare moving inNew York City to anything, it
would absolutely be that becausethe pedestal represents your
move date, okay, and you can't.
In the book and in the moviesyou know that they say like if
you step off the pedestal beforethe horn goes, where all the

(03:41):
kids run to the cornucopia, ifyou step off of it before, it
will like blow you up, right,right.
That's kind of like what it istrying to move close to your
move-in date because the waylandlords are in the city is you
can go to them like a month orso before you want to move.
Right, like for us, we wanted tomove October 1st.

(04:02):
So we started looking September1st for apartments Seems seems
reasonable, right, like a monthbefore you know what I'm saying.
We go to landlords and we'relike, hey, we're interested in
your apartment, we'd like tomove October 1st.
Can we see your apartment?
And they're like, like, oh,that move-in date is kind of far

(04:25):
, mind you, less than a monthaway, right?
Or like once we started lookingSeptember 1st, like we would
need to move by the end of themonth.
Our lease is up on September30th.
But the way the landlords in thecity work is they want someone
to start their lease as soon aspossible.
So if you start looking onSeptember 1st, they want you to.

(04:49):
The latest that they said thatthey could sign us was September
15th.
Mind you, again, our leaseisn't up until September 30th,
so we're not really looking forany overlap.
We'd like to move from oneplace to the next.
So we're like, no, that doesn'treally work for us.
Like, do you have any?
You know flexibility?

(05:09):
And they're like, no, we wantsomeone who can start the lease
September 15th.
So we keep running into thisproblem because again, we're
standing in on our pedestal Likethe cornucopia is the apartment
right and then the pedestal isyour start date, that you want
to move into the apartment.

(05:30):
So we we now have to standthere until like two weeks
before, because the second wetry to step off our pedestal
they're like nope, nope, yourdate is too far.
So we kept reaching out tolandlords or whatever, trying to
see if anyone had anyflexibility.
They did not, which I don'teven understand.
Because if I'm telling you likehey, I'm interested in your

(05:52):
apartment, I want to sign thisyear-long lease, what's the
difference from me starting theyear-long lease october 1st
versus someone else who's goingto start a year-long lease
September 15th?
They're both a year long.
It's not like you're gettingextra money, like it just
doesn't make sense.
And even if you are, I guess insome instances it can be like

(06:14):
extra because they'll proratethe rent.
So you pay half the month andthen start the first full month
in October, full month inOctober.
But like you really need thatlittle half month's rent, that
bad.
Where I'm telling you, hey, I'minterested in your apartment, I
have all my documents, mycredit's good, here's all my

(06:35):
shit.
But instead of accepting that,because you don't get that one
little half month's rent.
You'll go to the next Joe Schmowho can give you that half
month's rent, Like, do youreally need money?
That bad, get your fuckingmoney up.
You broke ass bitches, anyway.
So we can't move from ourpedestal until like two weeks

(06:57):
before our move date, right?
So mid-month, september 15th,around.
We start like people arestarting to be like okay, yeah,
october 1st is a fine movingdate, whatever, whatever.
But remind you, we're lookingto move in two weeks, right,
october 1st, but so are like atleast five other people at the
very same time.

(07:17):
So once you find an apartmentthat's like the air horn for to
run towards the cornucopia,which is the apartment, right,
so you have to beat everybodyelse to the cornucopia, get all
of your documents in, haveeverything ready, whatever,
whatever.
Literally, it feels like you'refighting for your life.
Quite literally you are.

(07:38):
You're trying to find a placeto live, right, so you have to
essentially fight for your lifeagainst all these people who are
also trying to move in twoweeks that you're trying to move
in and hope for the best, hopethat you come out as the lone
victor.
I don't know if that analogyjust made sense.

(08:01):
Again, my head is fuckingspinning because of all of the
shit we've had to do these pastcouple of weeks.
But that is like genuinely tome.
If I had to describe what it islike to move in New York City,
that's how I would describe it.
You have to stand on yourpedestal.
If you try to move any earlier,they're gonna blow your fucking
head off and then, like twoweeks a week out my honestly, a

(08:23):
week out.
I'm saying two weeks, but we'reliterally we signed our lease
yesterday and we move in a week,so a week out.
You find the apartment that youlike and you have to run to it
quicker than everybody else,submit all of your documents and
hope that the landlord willpick you over the 10 other
people who are also applying foryour apartment.

(08:44):
And I just feel like things aredifficult enough, right, like
trying to keep a job and have anapartment and like balance work
life, personal life, like it'sall already so fucking difficult
and it just feels likesometimes people make things
more difficult than they need tobe and I I feel like it happens

(09:06):
a lot with like things that weneed to survive, like um, job
applications or like applyingfor a house, like I feel like
they they just make it harderthan it has to be.
Like for jobs you'll have, theyhave these like a thousand page
applications and then they,they want you to do one

(09:27):
interview and then you want to.
They want you to come in for afollow-up interview.
Like three fucking interviews.
Like do y'all want somebody towork?
Or fucking not.
Like same thing with housing.
It's like y'all make this somuch more stressful than it
needs to be.
And then they like there's somany apartments, especially in
New York City, where I've livedin a couple different places, I

(09:49):
feel like New York City, in myexperience, has been by far the
worst.
They'll have pictures of theapartment and then you'll go see
the apartment and you're likethis is not the apartment that
y'all had in them.
Fucking pictures like it's.
It's literally like catfishing.
They know how to like holdtheir camera so that the rooms
and everything looks so muchnicer or bigger than it actually

(10:11):
is.
And then you go see it inperson and it's like a little
fucking tiny box of an apartmentand you're like, and that's
kind of how new york cityapartments are anyway, they are
smaller because there's has tobe so many, because so many
people live here, but it's likey'all play, like y'all, y'all be
, y'all play, y'all play,because y'all knew there was no

(10:33):
way that I could fit my fuckingshit in here.
Then they want to charge you afucking arm and a leg again.
I understand because it's innew york city, but it's like
everything's just gettingfucking out of hand.
Everything's so fuckingexpensive it's, and New York
City, but it's like everything'sjust getting fucking out of
hand.
Everything's so fuckingexpensive it's.
And not only is it expensive,but it's fucking.
They make it so much harder thanit has to be.
Like do you want someone tolive here or not?

(10:53):
Do you want someone to workhere or not?
But then they'll turn aroundand be like oh, nobody wants to
work these days, nobody wants tothis, nobody.
And it's like we do.
Y'all just make it incrediblyfucking hard with these long ass
job applications and processesor these short ass windows to
find an apartment.
Like life does not have to bethis hard.
I don't understand why peoplemake things so much harder than

(11:17):
they have to be.
And it's like if I was alandlord, I already know I would
try to make this the smoothestprocess in the world, because
moving is already incrediblystressful.
You're trying to find somewhereto live that's in your budget
but also close to work, but alsohas amenities and things that
you want, but is also in aneighborhood that you like but

(11:37):
also like, is close to like aplace, to a grocery shop, and
there's just all of these movingparts.
When it comes to moving that,all this added stress of oh,
you're looking too early or oh,you know, we have all these
applications, but submit yoursas well, like it is literally
like a fight to the death.

(11:57):
It feels like sometimes to doall this shit like and it
doesn't have to be this hard.
I genuinely don't understand whypeople make things so much
harder than they have to makethem and honestly, now that I'm
thinking about it, I don't evenknow if it's really people who
make the world harder.
It's just men.
Like I've had to speak to somany men these past couple of

(12:18):
weeks because there's so manymen in real estate and so many
male landlords, and I'm justlike in real estate and so many
male landlords and I'm just like, please, like, put a woman on
the phone.
Like I.
I genuinely I just hate havingto interact in any way with men
in any way.
I hate speaking with them, Ihate walking past them on the

(12:40):
street.
I I just hate whenever they'rein my space and like when I like
I'm I'm dead ass right now.
Like it's getting to the pointwhere I'm like I should probably
talk to somebody about this andit's it might be an issue, but
I just literally, like anytimelike I've had to talk to so many
landlords, like on the phone orover text, and anytime they

(13:00):
pick up the phone and it's a man, my heart immediately drops and
I'm just like, oh God, I don'twant to speak to men ever in my
fucking life because theygenuinely just make everything
so much harder.
Like the way that they explainthings doesn't make sense.
The way that they operatedoesn't make sense.
They're just so, they're sodraining, like mentally they're

(13:25):
I.
I genuinely like I I don't everwant to speak to a man ever in
my entire life like I.
I want them to all go back tojupiter.
There's no way they can get anymore stupider.
But I need them to all go backto jupiter and and leave us the
fuck alone.
Like literally, just leave.
Leave us the fuck alone.
Like, literally, just leave.
Leave us the fuck alone.

(13:45):
It's just been a veryinteresting couple of weeks.
My brain is all fuckingscrambled again because I'm
moving and there's just so manylike moving parts and having to
hire movers, like, oh, it's justbeen, it's just been incredibly
a lot.
And then also there's just alot going on in the fucking
world.
Jimmy Kimmel show was justpulled from air and definitely

(14:07):
because of remarks he made aboutcharlie kirk.
I say in quotes, because hedidn't say anything about
charlie kirk.
He said when, from the clipsthat I've seen, what he said was
that maga is trying to blamethe alleged shooter on the left
and say that he is this crazyleft lunatic or whatever.

(14:28):
But everything about thealleged shooter is crafted and
from the right.
He's allegedly a part of thisgroup called Groypers I think is
how you say it.
I had never heard about thisuntil last week when it came out
that he was allegedly a part ofthis group and this group is a
crazy, crazy alt-right group andthey actually believe that

(14:50):
Charlie Kirk is not right enough.
Like yo, what?
Like there's just so much hateand violence and chaos in the
world right now and it's alllike I truly I blame Donald
Trump and MAGA because they spewso much hate into the world

(15:10):
Like there's just so much hateand violence and racism and all
of this, and then they'resurprised when all of that turns
around and people are hatefuland violent and like I'm just,
like I, I don't understand itand then they'll.
They'll do anything, anythingbut take accountability right

(15:31):
wingers versus accountability.
They're losing every fuckingtime.
They're losing every fuckingtime.
They'll never takeaccountability.
They'll never own up to theliteral, literal hate that they
are spewing, and not even justhate, but violence.
Like they don't realize that thethings that they're saying and
doing are violent, or I don'tknow if it's that they don't

(15:53):
realize that it's violence or ifthey don't care.
I think it's more just thatthey don't care.
They don't care about theviolence until the violence
starts to affect them, like thisracist, hateful rhetoric that
they spew is violence, itincites violence and it is
violence.
But they don't realize theviolence unless someone's like
shooting them in the neck forlack of better example.

(16:15):
But it's like the words thatyou say.
They matter and they're violentand they lead to more violence.
Like they, I just don'tunderstand how people don't
understand that when you, whenyou say things that are hateful
and violent, that is, that isthe start of the violence.
We get to these major things, tothis huge violence of shootings

(16:36):
and things like that from thewords that we say, from the
ideologies and the beliefs thatwe spew to people like, how, how
is it not clocking that whenyou, when you speak violence so
much that violence is going tobuild into bigger acts of
violence?
Hello it just, it just blows mymind, it blows my mind and I

(16:59):
just I can't.
I'm not surprised by any of it,because I mean, this country
was literally built off ofviolence and racism.
That's another thing.
I'm like seeing people beinglike, oh, violence is not the
answer.
Violence doesn't solve anything.
I need us to be, I need us tobe serious, I need y'all to be
for real violence.

(17:20):
Unfortunately, I'm notcondoning this, I'm not saying
that I agree with it.
Violence has solved a lot.
We live in america.
We live in america.
That violence has is literallythreaded into the fucking
american flag.
This country started fromfucking violence.
When christopher columbus cameover here, he brought the

(17:40):
violence fucking with him.
It was immediate violence.
Once they got here, like whatare we talking about?
And then, when they wantedindependence from britain, hello
the american revolution.
Like they had to fight for thatphysically, when black people
wanted to free ourselves fromslavery, we had to fight for

(18:02):
that like violence,unfortunately, has solved a lot
of things, because people willnot just leave other people the
fuck alone.
I and I wish people would.
I wish we would all just go toour respective corners.
If you don't like me, cool,don't, don't bother me.
But the way racism and andmisogyny and homophobia and all
of that works, y'all claim likeY'all don't like us, but you

(18:25):
won't just leave us the fuckalone.
You have to, like, try and makeour lives harder, because you
don't even truly, you don't evenfeel like we have the right to
exist or that our lives matteror that we're like actual people
who just want to live ourfucking lives.
So instead of just leaving usthe fuck alone, you want to make

(18:46):
our lives harder and then wehave to literally fight for our
fucking lives, like everythingin the world just feels like a
fight for our fucking lives andI'm just fucking tired of it.
Are y'all not tired of it like?
Oh, my god, I just wisheveryone would just leave us the
fuck alone.
Just leave us alone.
If you don't like me, cool, I,I could not give a fuck less,

(19:09):
but then just leave me alone.
Let me be like you don't likeme to the point where you have
to make my life miserable.
And the reality is your life isfucking miserable and you hate
yourself, but you're projectingthat onto other people who are
just trying to live theirfucking lives because you won't
just go talk to that lady andunpack.
Why the fuck you're so fuckingmiserable, like I'm just fucking

(19:35):
.
I'm so tired.
I'm so fucking tired of thisshit show of a country.
Like they want to scream and cryabout oh, free speech.
And was that not jimmy kimmel'sfree speech?
To call out the fact that thisalleged shooter is a product of

(19:55):
the right, like was that not himsharing his opinion?
Mind you, they want to saythings like racism, homophobia,
misogyny, transphobia,xenophobia.
All of that is just an opinion,and charlie kirk was just
sharing his opinions and he wasgunned down for sharing his
opinion.
But when it comes to peoplelike Jimmy Kimmel speaking his

(20:16):
opinion on the alleged shooter,now his show's been pulled from
the air indefinitely.
There was a literal websitethat was created by people who
were doxing people who were,they said, were celebrating
Charlie Kirk's death.
They're uploading theirpersonal information, like their
jobs and their phone numbersand their addresses, to this
website to hold them accountableand dox them like.

(20:37):
This country is a fucking joke,bro.
Everything's a fucking joke.
We live on a fucking floatingrock and everyone, like people,
are just making other people'slives harder just for the sake
of making their lives harder,and I just I, like life does not
have to be this fucking hard.
Life does not have to be thishard, and I don't understand why

(20:59):
people want to make it so hard.
Like, just like, let me be.
If you don't like me, cool, letme be.
If you have an apartment forrent, great, let me have it.
If you have an opening for ajob, cool.
When can I start?
Like the world could be so muchsimpler.
But people just make it hard andI it's just so infuriating like

(21:19):
life can already be sostressful trying to balance work
life and your personal life andfriendships and working out,
and like all of it is already soincredibly stressful.
But with this added stress of,like, trying to find an
apartment, trying to find a job,then you got to worry about
racism and homophobia, misogyny,like, oh, my god, mind you, we

(21:43):
live on a fucking floating rockin the middle of space and none
of it's real.
All of it's.
All of it is made up.
All of it is made up literallyjust to make people's lives
harder.
I don't get it.
I don't get it, and it'sstressful and it's annoying and
I just wish that everyone wouldshut the fuck up and leave
everybody alone and just like,let people live anyway.

(22:03):
That's my rant for today.
I feel like this episode isprobably all over the place.
Life is all over the placeright now and I just, I just
wish people would just leaveother people alone and like life
could just be so much simpler.
Life really could just besimpler and we, as people, make
it harder and it just doesn'thave to be.
It doesn't have to be this hardlife.

(22:25):
Life could be simpler.
So I'm gonna stop ranting fortoday.
Now I'm gonna go.
Oh my god, I have to pack.
Ranting for today now I'm gonnago.
Oh my god, I have to pack.
I hate packing.
I wish my mom could come helpme.
Every apartment that I've everpacked up, my mom has helped me
pack it up.
This is the first time.
Well, this yeah, this is thiswill be the first time that I

(22:47):
don't have my mom helping mepack and, uh, I'm really sad
about it.
I hate packing and she's justso good at it, like mom's just
no.
I don't know how that happens,but mom's just no anyway.
But I have to pack upeverything, which is gonna be a
pain in the ass, but we're allgood, I say through a smile and

(23:08):
a thumbs up when everything isin fact not good.
Thank you guys.
So much for tuning in today tomy rant.
I hope everyone's having a goodweek, except for that orange
drink, lady, and I will talk toyou in the next episode.
Peace and love.
Talk to you later.
The napkin in between, hostedby Daijné Jones, produced by
Daijné Jones, post-production byDaijné Jones, music by Sam

(23:28):
Champagne and graphics by IsmaVidal.
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