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Daijné (00:00):
Is this thing on?
Hello, hello.
Uh-oh.
Another yuffer with a mic.
Hello everyone and welcome backto the N apkin In Between
Podcast.
I am your host, Daijne Jones.
I hope everyone's been having agood week except for that
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orange chick lady.
Of course.
Guys, welcome to my new casa.
Um, yeah, we moved.
We moved, and it's been it'sbeen a week.
It actually hasn't even been aweek, but it feels like it's
been 14,000 weeks because shit'sjust going a little crazy with
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this move right now.
We're gonna get into it, buthow are we liking the new setup?
I say in close because I'mstill unpacking.
I have boxes literally in thecorner that I just had to rip
open to find my podcastequipment so that I could film
an episode for this week.
So we're not complete with thissetup.
I feel like I want to do like Iactually want to decorate this
apartment.
Like in my last apartment, Iwas like, oh, I'm gonna
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decorate.
I had such cute ideas, and thenI never did it.
I'm doing it this time.
We're we're decorating, sowe're not set up completely yet.
You guys will see some stuff onthis wall because I feel like
we have to do something.
The brick wall was low-keyiconic.
We cannot just have this whitewall.
A white wall! No! Like we haveto put something on it, you know
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what I mean?
So, set up, I say in quotesbecause we're gonna do some
decorations or do something elsein the background.
But for the time being, as I'mstill unpacking and everything,
this is what we're working with.
So give me some ideas.
Like, what are some ideas thatyou guys have for decorations?
And I have some myself, but I'malways open to more.
So drop some ideas in thecomments.
I don't know what the vibeshould be, or should it be like,
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should it change with theseason?
Should it I don't know.
I don't know that the world ismy fucking oyster, and there's
so many different things that Icould do, so we'll figure it
out.
But give me some ideas too,because I'm always open to
those.
And also drop in the commentsthe peak of your week.
I feel like I always telly'all, well, not always,
sometimes I do forget, andthat's on me, I'll own that.
But when I do remember to telly'all to tell me the peak of
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your week, y'all don't tell methe peak of your week.
So tell me the peak of yourweek, bitch.
What made you smile?
What kept you grounded, whatkept you sane in the chaos of
the world.
And I'll go first.
I uh saw Renee rap this week,and I I love her.
I love her, and first andforemost, the mic is on, okay?
Vocals are crazy, some can'trelate.
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You feel me?
But also, more than that, Ijust love how she is so real.
She's so real, and she's solike she just rejects media
training, and she's like, andI've watched a couple of her
interviews.
She said that she's people havetried, they've tried to media
train her, they've tried tohonestly make her a robot.
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I feel like that's what mediatraining does, it makes them
very robotic and like not theirreal selves.
And I just love that sherejects that because that is
what we need.
I'm so tired of the mediatraining of the PR answers of it
all.
Just like tell me, genuinely,just tell me what the fuck
you're feeling and and what'sactually on your mind.
Like, I don't need this likecurated answer because it's so
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stupid, and like I said, it'skind of like robotic, and it's
like I feel like you can alwaystell when someone is media
trained, you can tell by the waythey answer their questions
when they're not giving theirhonest opinion or answer or like
whatever it is.
The first giveaway to me isalways the person's face or like
their body language.
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Like, as someone who studied umpsychology and I worked as a
therapist, I feel like I canpick up very well on people's
body language when they'retelling me something that they
don't actually feel or believe,and their body, like your face,
at least for me, I'm veryexpressive.
But even for the people whoaren't as expressive, I feel
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like your face in your bodygives it away.
It's like your body isphysically rejecting whatever
thing you're trying to put outthere, whatever emotions or
statement that you're trying tosay.
Like, I can tell that you don'tbelieve that shit.
So if you don't believe thatshit, why the fuck would I
believe that shit?
And I also just feel likethat's no way to live.
Like, why are we why are wefaking it?
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Why are we why are we trying toput on a front and not just
being our authentic selves?
That's why I kind of like notthat to say that I respect Trump
supporters or MAGA becauseobviously it's always will be
and always has been.
Fuck y'all.
But like, if you're racist orwhatever, maybe this is
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controversial to say, I don'tknow.
But I would rather you be loudwith that so that I know to stay
away from you.
Like, I know what type ofperson you are.
The scariest people are thepeople who engage in like
microaggressions or like subtleracism.
Because it's like, say thatshit with your chest.
You know what I mean?
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Like, if you're gonna hate meor like be homophobic, racist,
transphobic, whatever,obviously, the the correct
answer is to not give a fuckabout what other people are
doing and how they're livingtheir lives.
Obviously, that's not the worldthat we live in, though.
Like, let's be real.
So if you are going to be thatway, be loud about it so that I
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know to stay away from you.
The the scariest part of havingto deal with a world that has
like racism and homophobia andtransphobia are the people who
are who try to be quiet aboutit.
Because it's like I'm aroundyou and I don't know that you
like want to hurt me or like youdon't feel like I'm a real
person or like my life matters.
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So if we're put in a situationwhere it's like I need you to
help me, that puts my life evenmore in danger because it's like
you're not gonna care enough tohelp me in the way that I need
help.
Does that make sense?
I don't know if that even madesense, but hopefully y'all
understand what I'm saying.
The point that I'm trying tomake is that if you're going to
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be racist or hateful orwhatever, I would prefer you do
that shit out loud so that Iknow what type of person you
are, so that I can stay awayfrom you rather than you keeping
that in quietly, and then Ijust don't know that low-key,
you fucking hate me and don'tvalue my life.
And I feel like that kind ofhappens with these PR answers
and PR training.
Not to say that, like, that'san extreme example, right?
Like putting my life in danger,things like that.
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But people will, you know,behave a certain way behind
closed doors, but then when theyget online or whatever, they
know that like the things thatthey do behind closed doors they
can't do online or else theywould, you know, be canceled,
lose their following, whatever,whatever.
Or even some people will try toappeal to a certain demographic
for followers or clout,whatever, but they they don't
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actually feel that way behindclosed doors, and that's why
like I hate PR training, I hateall of it.
Like, whoever you are, show methat so that I know if I should,
you know, be following you orif I should trust you or not.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know if any of this ismaking sense.
I feel like I was talking aboutgoing to a concert, and I
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somehow got to thisconversation.
I don't know.
Brands all over the place alittle bit.
There's a lot going on.
We're gonna get to that alittle bit later in the episode.
But moral of the story, I wentto a renewate rap concert, which
was amazing.
First and foremost, her mic wason, and she's just such a great
performer.
She did a cover of um Ego byBeyonce, which was fucking
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amazing.
She's just so good, but also Ijust like the type of person she
is because you can just tell.
At least, I'm I mean, I don'tknow her in real life, but it
feels like to me that you cantell that she's just real and
just always herself, and there'sno PR about her, which I
really, really love.
I wish that we had morecelebrities like that so that
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people would stop being sofucking like robotic and just
like trained.
Fuck the training.
Show me who you are so that Iknow if I want to fuck with you
or not.
That was the pick of my weekgoing to see Renee Rap.
Amazing concert.
I got this hoodie for the umaudio or I'm sorry, for the
visual listeners.
This is one of the mostcomfortable hoodies I've ever
had.
I've been wearing it since Igot it on Monday.
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So, anyway, that was the pickof my week.
Please tell me the pick of yourweek.
Something that made you smile,kept you growing, it kept you
sane in the chaos of the world.
Speaking of chaos and just likenothing going the way that I
thought that it would go.
As y'all know, I moved over thepast weekend.
And in my last episode, I wastalking about how excited I was
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to move.
It was very bittersweet becauseyou know, I had started a lot
of my content creation journeyin that apartment, but at the
same time, management wasfucking ass, and I was ready to
be rid of them and hopefullymove on to a better management
company.
Wishful fucking thinking on mypart.
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I was talking with Talia, myroommate, the other day, and we
were talking about how asterrible as the other management
was, we miss it.
We've mind you, it has not evenbeen a week that we have lived
here, and we are already like,what the fuck did we get
ourselves into?
We moved on Saturday by Sundaymorning.
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We had a 17 bullet point listof things in this apartment that
needed to be fixed, rangingfrom minuscule small fixes up to
like safety concern fixes.
So I don't even know where tostart.
Like, I feel like uh I'm allover the place, so I'm so sorry
if this episode is like jumbledand scrambled, but I just I
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don't understand how we could gofrom the apartment we were in
to even worse conditions.
But bitch, we went from bad toJ-Lo.
It is fucking like I'm so Ijust don't even know how this is
even possible.
So Saturday we moved from myold apartment to my new
apartment this past Saturday.
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And after a long day of moving,of course, moving is like the
least enjoyable activity ofadulthood.
And so after we had spent like13 hours moving and unpacking
and trying to get this newapartment together, all we
wanted to do was shower.
All we wanted to do was take ahot shower and crawl into bed
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and just relax a little bit.
Now, let me go back a littlebit because when we first toured
the apartment, we noticed thatthere was no shower shower rod
in the bathroom to hold a showercurtain.
So we had asked, you know,before we move in, can there be
a shower rod installed so thatwe can put up a shower curtain?
They said yes, of course, it'llbe installed before you guys
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move in, blah blah blah blahblah.
We get her Saturday and there'sno shower rod.
So we text the management andwe're like, hey, we had asked if
you guys could put up a showerrod.
There's not one in here.
Can someone come and put oneup?
And they're like, okay, well,nobody works on the weekends.
And we were like, okay, well,what's that have to do with us?
Like, we asked y'all before ifyou could put up a shower rod.
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So, like, someone I'm gonnay'all have to figure it out.
Someone's gonna have to come inand put up a shower rod.
We we can't shower right now,and otherwise, water's gonna get
all over the floor.
So they did send someone in,they put up a shower rod,
whatever, whatever.
So we put up our showercurtain, and I go to take a
shower, and the diverter in thetub that um like you flip it up,
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and then it it goes from thetub running to the shower
broken.
Didn't work, didn't work.
So we were like we can'tfucking shower.
We can't shower, and I'm notabout to take a fucking bath.
First of all, I hate baths.
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I feel like I'm sitting in myown dirt, even like I know some
people will like take backsbaths to relax.
All I can think about is thatI'm sitting in a pool of my own
dirt.
So we're like, what the fuck dowe do?
Like, do we go back to our oldapartment?
Because we still had like therewas a little bit of overlap in
our lease, like two, three days.
So we're like, do we go back toour old apartment and shower?
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Like, what the fuck do we do?
We ended up taking like birdbaths or sponge baths in the in
the tub, but I was just sofucking angry because I was
like, who like how the fuck doesthe shower not fucking work?
Like what the fuck, like I Istill don't have words for it.
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I still I remember just beingin that moment and I was shaking
because I was so fucking angry.
Like who how how did how wasthat something that was not
noticed during their walkthroughto make sure that this
apartment was habitable andsafe?
And we'll get to that in amoment.
So anyway, we both take likesponge baths or whatever, and
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then my roommate Talia is like,oh, I noticed it on my door, my
door doesn't lock.
And I was like, like herbedroom door, and so I was like,
okay, well, I was like, are yousure?
And she's like, Yeah, I thinkit doesn't lock.
So I was like, okay, go insideyour room, lock your door, and
I'll see if I can open it fromthe outside.
So she goes inside her room,closes the door, locks it, and I
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pull down the thing, and surelyenough, the door swings right
wide the fuck open.
So I'm like, okay, we're addingall these things to the list.
This is all a part of the 17number list that we had sent
them.
Sunday morning, we found allthis shit Saturday.
So we see that her door doesn'tlock.
So I'm like, okay, let me go tomy room and test my door.
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So I come in my room, shut thedoor, lock it.
Talia tries to open it from theoutside, it doesn't open.
So I'm like, okay, cool, great.
Doesn't open.
I then try to open my door fromthe inside of the room, and it
also doesn't open.
So here I am trying to getmyself out of my room, and the
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door wouldn't open.
The door was I was lockedinside this very room that I am
filming in right now.
So we have to call the firedepartment for them to break
down the door for them to bustthe lock open to get me out of
this room because I could notget out.
And then, funny enough, whenthe firemen were here, one of
them goes, Are you on Instagram?
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And I was like, Yeah, like Icreate content.
He's like, Oh, I've seen yourcontent, like you're I really
like your content, and that likemade me nervous.
I always get nervous whenpeople tell me that they
recognize me.
So I like laughed a little bit,and he was like, Oh, yep, that
laugh.
I know that laugh.
And I was like, Oh my god,please leave.
Like, this is so awkward.
Like, I was just locked in theroom, and now you're telling me
you know me, which I love.
I love that you guys are allhere, but like I don't know.
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I'm just I'm just not used topeople recognizing me, I guess.
So I was just like, Okay,thanks.
Like, I don't I never know whatto say.
I literally blackout, I neverknow what to say.
So then they leave.
Oh, and I forgot to mentionbefore any of this, we had also
noticed that our front door, thelock was like falling off of
the front door, like it wasn'tscrewed in properly.
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So obviously that doesn't makeus feel the safest, that our
door knob is like falling offthe hinges.
So we add all this stuff to thelist, and then there's other
stuff too, like there was a leakunder the bathroom sink and the
bathroom or the the tub isdripping, the no the toilet is
making like weird noises, likeliterally a 17 bullet point list
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of shit that needed fixed,ranging from things like the
lock on our door to the cabinetsin the kitchen were not stable.
So we send them an email onSunday, and we're like, who the
fuck did a walkthrough of thisapartment?
Like, the we've been here lessthan 24 hours, and we already
have 17 things that neededfixed.
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The fire alarms were beeping,like, so much shit was wrong
with this apartment, and we'relike, How was this apartment
rented to us in this condition?
So we reach out to JeffDeAngeles.
I'm gonna say his name becausethat's who we've been in contact
with from the beginning.
He's the one who was like whenthe apartment was listed on
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Zillow, Jeff DeAngelis is theperson who showed it to us and
blah blah blah blah.
So we reach out to him, we texthim, and we're asking him,
we've asked him several timeswho walked through this
apartment to make sure it wassafe, who walked through this
apartment to make sure it wassafe, like asking him over and
over, he refuses to answer thequestion.
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Which tells us that either hewalked through the apartment and
just missed all of this shit,or nobody walked through this
apartment to make sure that itwas safe.
Also, we have a deadbolt on ourdoor that does not work, and
they're like, Oh, the previoustenants put that up, so if you
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want um a new deadbolt, like, orif you want it to be fixed,
like you have to fix it or get anew one.
Nope, not how that works, nothow that works.
We looked it up in the eventthat the last tenant did put
that deadbolt, first andforemost, a chain lock is
required in every apartment.
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You're supposed to have apeephole, an actual lock, and
then like the uh chain doorguard.
But in the event that aprevious tenant puts in a lock
and then they leave and thenthey show the apartment to new
tenants, they assumeresponsibility for that lock.
So the fact that they didn'ttake that lock down, they're
supposed to fix it for us, butthey're trying to tell us, oh,
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the the old tenants did it, soif you want it to be fixed, you
have to do it yourself.
Not how that works.
And I feel like this is myissue with landlords and
management companies, is thatthey don't think that tenants
know shit like this.
But Talia and I both, like wehave been doing a ton of
research, learning things thatI'll be honest, we didn't know
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before, but we know now.
But it's like I feel likelandlords and management they
they prey on the ignorance oftenants, they hope that you
don't know your shit, so that atthe end of the day, you'll live
in whatever conditions theygive you as for an apartment,
and then they can just make themoney off of you because you're
paying rent for whatever theygive you, and I just feel like
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that is so fucked up.
Like that is so fucked up.
There's no reason that lessthan literally we've we found
all of these issues less than 48hours into the apartment, and
there's absolutely no reasonthat there should be so many
issues with this apartment 48hours into at least.
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There's no reason that I shouldhave been locked in my bedroom
13 hours into my lease.
There's no reason that our doorlock, our front door lock
should have been falling off ofthe hinges five hours into our
lease.
Like, what what I like that'sthe only thing I can say.
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Like, what the fuck?
And it's just like they comeand they fix things, and then
the second they leave, the thingthat they supposedly fixed is
breaking again.
And I I just don't understandhow people just have like no
care or regard for other people.
Like, I know damn well if themanagement of this building was
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experiencing any of the issuesthat we're experiencing right
now, even from the the minusculeissues like the cabinets and
the kitchen not being secure, ifthey were dealing with
something as little as that,they would flip their shit.
So the fact that they rented anapartment to two women where
the door knob was falling off ofthe front door is fucking crazy
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to me.
Like, I just don't understandhow people have such little
regard and care for other peoplegenuinely, like what the fuck?
Like, I I could never be thatway.
I could never just like belike, okay, you're as long as
I'm getting paid, as long asyou're paying the rent, here's
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here's whatever I give you, havefun with it.
Like, why do people not careabout other people's safety?
Why do people not have regardfor other people?
And how the fuck do you sleepat night knowing that you've
rented a shithole apartment topeople, and it's like as long as
you're getting paid, you justdon't care.
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That's insane to me.
I I I just can't wrap my headaround that.
But unfortunately for them,they do not know who the fuck
they're dealing with becauseTalia and I are on their fucking
ass.
We have been reporting them notjust to themselves but also to
the city, like they are in for atreat.
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I don't know if they thoughtthat they could get over on us
or they were they could justgive us whatever and we would
just deal with it.
No, absolutely not, absolutelynot.
Because, like I said, Talid andI have been doing a lot of
research and we have found outthings that tenants can do and
rights that tenants have that wetruthfully we did not even know
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before this.
And again, I feel likemanagement and landlords prey on
people not knowing and peoplebeing ignorant, but if they
thought that we were just gonnabe comfortable in our ignorance
and not look into this shit,they they've got another thing
coming.
So stay tuned for updatesbecause I don't know who the
fuck they thought they weredealing with, but they got the
right one.
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They got the right one.
I don't because I don't give afuck.
I never gave a fuck about mypeace and about my safety.
Oh baby, I'm on your fuckinghead.
I will call your office everyfucking day.
I will send thousands ofemails, I will report you to the
city every time.
What whatever I have to do tomake sure that I'm living
peacefully and safely, I willfucking do.
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I I never cared.
I do not give a fuck.
And you're prepare to be sickof me.
They are about to hate to seeme coming.
I they probably already do,because I've already been
emailing and calling andtexting, and I I'm not trying to
do too many calls because justin case anybody is dealing with
something like this, send moremessages than calls.
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Because in the event that youdo have to go to court and
you're like, Oh, we were on thephone and this is what was said,
hearsay.
He said she said it won't holdup in court.
Messages though, those hold upin court.
So we have been messaging, wehave been emailing.
Yeah, they're about to hate tosee us coming, and I I will not
rest until either one, they fixeverything that's wrong in this
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apartment, or two, they give memy fucking money back and break
this lease.
Either way, I I don't carewhich one y'all want to do, but
it's one or the other.
Either y'all are fixing thisshit, or y'all are gonna let me
out of this fucking lease.
So y'all stay tuned.
This has been the craziest weekof my life.
I cannot believe that.
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What's the is there a a termfor Slee and I were trying to
figure out, you know how likewhen someone sells you a bad
car, they're like, oh, they soldme a lemon?
Is there a term for like a badapartment?
Like, oh, they rented me.
I don't know what it is.
If there is one, I don't know,but there should be one because
I feel like this happens a lot.
And unfortunately, I feel likesome tenants will just like
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tough it out for the year or orthey don't know like their
rights and everything like that.
Nah, they got the right one,they got the right fucking one.
I'm not toughing shit out.
I was made to have a soft life,and I will have that by any
means necessary.
So, y'all stay tuned because Ifeel like this is about to be a
wild year.
Actually, it's not gonna be awild year because they're either
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gonna fix this shit immediatelyor they're gonna let us out
this fucking lease.
So scratch that.
But it might be a wild coupleweeks, so stay tuned.
Thank you guys so much fortuning in to today's episode.
I hope everyone's having a goodweek, except for that orange
drink lady, and I will talk toyou in the next episode.
Peace and love.
Talk to you later.
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