June 15, 2025 • 29 mins
The warmth of summer brings a curious duality – the freedom to embrace joy juxtaposed against a backdrop of urgent social issues. In this candid conversation, I reflect on how kicking off summer with Beyoncé's concert and experiencing Gov Ball's electric atmosphere provided much-needed mental respite while still acknowledging the weight of our current political landscape.
T-Pain's nostalgic performances transported me back to simpler college days, sparking reflections on educational paths not taken and how we define success beyond traditional routes. This naturally flows into a deeper examination of what brings authentic fulfillment – for me, it's creating digestible, educational content that balances humor with substance.
Against this backdrop of personal joy, I can't ignore the troubling developments in Los Angeles, where ICE raids and National Guard deployments have created a chilling effect on constitutional rights. The targeting of immigrant communities raises fundamental questions about America's identity and values. When we examine the arbitrary nature of borders on stolen land and the hypocrisy in how immigration laws are selectively enforced, the underlying issues of racism and authoritarianism become impossible to ignore.
The false dichotomy between resting and speaking up during difficult times deserves examination – both approaches have merit depending on individual circumstances. What matters is respecting each person's choice rather than imposing a single response to crisis. For those choosing to protest, I offer practical safety advice while emphasizing the importance of knowing your rights.
Finding balance between seeking joy and fighting injustice isn't easy, but it's necessary for sustainable activism. How are you balancing summer fun with standing for what matters? Share your thoughts, and remember that however you choose to respond to these challenging times, your approach is valid as long as it's authentic to you.
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Daijné (00:00):
Is this thing on?
Hello hello.
Uh-oh, another yapper with amic.
Ha ha ha ha.
Hello everyone, and welcomeback to the Napkin In Between
Podcast.
I am your host, Daijné Jones.
I hope everyone has been havinga good week, except for that
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orange drink lady, of courseY'all.
Summer is here.
Summer is finally here.
I know I've been saying in acouple of my episodes like I'm
so excited for summer, I can'twait for summer to be here.
Summer has arrived and I'm sohappy, like my mood is just so
much better when the sun is out,like sun's out buns out.
You know what I mean.
I feel like I kicked off mysummer in the best way, because
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the first thing I did to startoff the summer was see beyonce
in concert, which I meanstarting off summer with a
banger.
You know what I mean.
And then last weekend I went togov ball, which, if you're
unfamiliar with gov ball, it'snew york city's version of
coachella.
It's a three-day music festivaland I had a fucking a time was
had, a time was had.
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I only went on friday.
That was the only day that Iwas interested in, and so the
lineup that I was interested inseeing was t-pain tyla and tyla
the creator and t-pain.
He is like a timeless treasure,like we.
We don't talk about him enough.
The way that he's still aroundand relevant and still putting
on great shows.
I love that man and it's likehe pops in and out you know what
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I mean.
Like he'll pop in, he'll do asong with somebody, then he'll
pop back out.
He'll pop in, do a show andthen he'll pop back out.
At least that's what I'venoticed.
Maybe he's, maybe I'm just notkeeping up with him as much as
you know he's doing stuff, but Ifeel like he really pops in and
out and he did, of course, allthe throwback songs Low Up Down
Buy you a Drink, I'm in Lovewith a Stripper.
All I Do is Win Like ugh.
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I felt like I was transportedback to simpler times in high
school and college.
Like I say all the time, I wishI could go back to high school
or college because I just didn'tappreciate that time enough.
Like it was no bills, all fun,I was with my best friends, all
the time like, oh, I misscollege and I really wish.
I feel like my biggest regretof college and I was talking
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about this with Talia the otherday I wish that I had gone to an
HBCU.
Like that is my biggest regretfrom college is not going to an
HBCU.
I would have turned the fuck upat an hbcu like, but like when
I was going to high school, Igrew up in a predominantly white
area, very little black peoplelike it's.
Like my family and a coupleother families were the only
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black people in the town.
Most of my graduating class waswhite, like just surrounded by
whiteness, and my guidancecounselor, my teachers, like
nobody told me that there werethese things called hbcus, that,
like, I could go to and bearound other black people.
You know what I mean.
So I'm like I wish that I hadmore knowledge and I wish that I
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knew better about likedifferent colleges and like what
my opportunities were.
Because, honestly, like, mybiggest regret is either not
going to an hbcu or going tocollege at all.
Like college is not asnecessary as I feel, like it
maybe once was.
Like there are other thingsthat you can do and be
successful at and not need acollege degree for.
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Like, for example, me, creatingcontent.
You don't need a college degreeto be a content creator and
like, maybe, like if you didlike videography or editing or
cinematography, something likethat.
It would make your contentbetter, but, like, you can learn
that stuff on YouTube.
Everything that I've learnedabout content has been on
YouTube, or a tutorial orsomething.
You know what I mean.
So it's like you don't need acollege degree for that and it's
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like this is what I want to do.
This is what makes me happiestthe most is just making my silly
little videos and talking intoa mic and sitting on my bed.
You me happiest the most isjust making my silly little
videos and talking into a micand sitting on my bed.
You know what I mean.
So it's like I wish that I knewthat there were other options
rather than college, and I alsowish that I knew that HBCUs were
a thing.
Those are my two biggestregrets from college.
But anyway, t-pain was doing allthe throwbacks and I was
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transported back to college and,uh, it was just, he was so good
.
He was definitely my highlightof GovBall and this is the peak
of my week.
By the way, I don't know if Isaid that already, but I I just
love with.
They don't make music like thatanymore.
Like, oh, I just love him.
It was so good and he's such agood performer too.
He's so funny, he's a goodsinger.
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Like yes, he raps and differentthings like that, but like his
singing voice, he's such a goodsinger I was like blown away by
it.
So t-pan was definitely thehighlight for me.
And then my second favorite wastyla.
She was really, really good.
Her voice is so pretty.
She's so cute and tiny inperson like I didn't realize how
little she is, but she, she wasa great performer and you know,
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like tyla, she's that girl forreal.
Like I, I actually really liketyla.
And then tyler the creator.
Admittedly, I don't listen to alot of tyler the creator.
My roommate, talia, was mostexcited to see tyler the creator
.
I didn't really know any of thesongs that he was singing, but
it was a good show.
Like it was entertaining.
The only thing I didn't likeabout tyler the creator wasn't
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even tyler, it was the crowd.
Like they, everyone keptcreating mosh pits, and mosh
pits are one of the scariestthings that I've ever seen or
been slightly a part of.
Like I, I had never been a partof one before that and I had
never really seen one beforethat, but like that was like so
scary it would like people wouldpush you back and like create
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like this open empty circle, andthen everyone would rush into
the circle and start jumping andlike going crazy and it was
just so overstimulating and zeroout of ten.
Not a good time.
I did not like the mosh pits,but other than that, golf ball
was a really good time.
Um, I went last year too, andit's just.
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I just love live music.
I, if I can be at a concertlike every day of my life, I
probably would.
I just love listening to peoplesing, even if I don't really
know their songs or theirdiscography or you know whatever
, I just love hearing peoplesing.
I just love talented people.
You know what I mean.
I love people who can put on agood show or who can sing really
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well or just whatever you cando creatively.
I love seeing people do that,because I think that that's so
important to use your creativebrain, because I feel like
that's kind of an escape fromall the craziness in the world.
You know what I mean?
Like shit's going on always,all the time.
There's always something goingon and if you can just escape
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and listen to somebody becreative or be creative yourself
, I feel like that is truly,something that's really been
keeping me grounded this year isthat I've really been focusing
a lot more on my contentcreation, especially with the
podcast, and it's like that'sreally what brings me joy and
that's like where I find likesecurity and safety and just
like I can escape.
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That's like my escapism.
You know what I mean.
It's like my escapism, you knowwhat I mean.
It's like that's where I go tolike not really think, even
though I do, a lot of my contentis talking about world issues
and different things.
Like that.
I try to do it in a way that'sfun for me and that's fun for
you guys as well.
Like I do know, like I joke alot and sometimes I worry like
am I joking too much?
Like are they understanding themessage or is it more of the
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jokes that they're getting?
And I feel like I'm so gratefulbecause you guys truly
understand the messages that I'mtrying to put out.
Like I remember one time acouple months ago, someone had
commented from a fake account,of course that, um, my content
wasn't actually educational,like people were just tuning in
because I was funny or whatever.
And I'm not gonna lie like thatreally upset me, because I was
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like, yes, I love being funnyand I love being entertaining,
but at the end of the day, likeI want my content to stand for
something, I want my content tomean something, I want my
content to educate someone.
And so I was like boy, fuck you.
Like like you're lying, likethat's not true.
And so I I made a video and Iasked you guys, like you know
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well, actually first him, and Iwent back and forth a little bit
I'm assuming it was a man,because very much man energy.
Um, we were going back andforth a little bit and I was
like no, that's not true.
Like people follow me becauseI'm educational.
And he was like no, You're justentertaining.
And so I said to him like I'mgonna make a video tomorrow With
this comment and I'm just gonnaask my audience, like why do
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y'all follow me?
And so I made the video.
I deleted our comment threadbecause I didn't want any of you
to go back and read what wewere saying and then just side
With me.
I wanted it to be your realanswers.
And so I deleted the commentthread and I made a video asking
you guys, like what made youfollow me?
Like, why do you engage with me, whatever, whatever and what do
you fucking know?
A lot of the comments were like, oh, you're educational, you
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stand up for black people, youstand up for black women, you
stand up for people in thelgbtqia plus community, you
stand up for trans women likebasically affirming that you
guys understand the importanceand the the realness behind my
content, and that made me feelreally happy.
And then he blocked me becausehe was wrong.
Like, bitch, apologize to meright now because you hurt my
feelings and I didn't like that.
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But thankfully I found out thatyou guys are, you know, being
educated about my content, whichis the entire goal.
Like, yes, I like being funny,yes, I love snatching that
orange drink, ladies wig everychance that I get.
But, more than anything, I likeeducating and I like making it
digestible to everyone.
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I feel like I've been told thata couple times by you guys is
like my content is educationaland digestible and I love that.
That is like the bestcompliment that I've ever
received is that you guys cantruly learn from my content,
which is amazing.
So, anyway, gumpall was amazing.
I love seeing people be creativeand I just love live music, and
so I'm just excited becausesummer is here, summer is here
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and I'm excited and I just wantto do so much this summer.
So if you see me outside, don'tbe alarmed.
Outside is calling and I'manswering the phone every time.
That has been the peak of myweek.
Please tell me the peak of yourweek.
Something that made you smile,kept you grounded.
That has been the peak of myweek.
Please tell me the peak of yourweek.
Something that made you smile,kept you grounded, kept you sane
in the chaos of the world.
Speaking of chaos and needingcreativity or something to
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ground you and be your safespace and be your escape.
I wanna talk about what's goingon in LA right now, because
this is an extremely slipperyslope and I'm not gonna yai, I'm
really scared that we are goingto tumble down this slope if
somebody doesn't do something,and do something fast.
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So, as we know, one of Trump'sbiggest promises on the campaign
trail was to deport illegalimmigrants and get the illegals
and the criminals and whateverout of the US, which is crazy
because he's a criminal himself.
So when are you leaving?
First and foremost, but anyway.
So ever since he was sworn in,there have been ice raids.
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They're going into schools,churches, like anywhere to find
quote-unquote illegal immigrantsand like deport them.
Keep in mind that some of thepeople that they're detaining
are not illegal immigrants.
They are people who have birthcertificates, there are people
who have green cards, there arepeople who were born here, who
have lived here their entirelives and, just like anyone and
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everyone that is not a whiteperson is like, they're like
targeting or they're trying toround up.
And so in la recently, therehave been protests because of
the ICE raids and people areprotesting, ice and then
breaking up families anddeporting people from the US,
and Trump deployed the NationalGuard to LA and essentially said
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that the protests were notpeaceful and that LA residents
were destroying the city and thenational guard needed to go
there to bring the peace.
I say in quotes because they'renot there to bring peace,
they're there to disrupt it.
Um, and so now, ever since thenational guard has gone to la,
they've been essentiallyterrorizing the citizens and the
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residents there as they'repeacefully protesting.
They're shooting them withpellets, they're tear gassing
them, they're they're justwreaking havoc.
They're literally, like I said,they're not there to bring
peace, they're there to disruptit.
And this is insanely scary to mebecause, as us citizens.
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We have the right to protest.
That is in the First Amendmentof our Constitution.
We have the right to peacefullyprotest.
And the fact that Trump,because he doesn't like that
people are protesting and thathe doesn't like what's happening
, he's sending in the NationalGuard to terrorize these people
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and essentially strip them oftheir rights is so fucking scary
.
Trump wants to be a dictator sofucking bad.
Anyone who speaks out againsthim, him, anyone who protests
against what he's doing, hefeels like they are criminals
and they're doing somethingwrong and he should be able to
do whatever he wants to silencethem.
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That's not how america works.
America is not a dictatorship.
We as citizens have rights.
And the fact that the nationalguard you swore to an oath, you
swore to uphold the constitution, you swore to follow
presidential orders when theywere in line with the law, right
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?
So I I honestly don't give afuck.
I made a video the other dayand I said the excuse like we're
just following orders is notgonna fucking cut it.
And there were army people inmy comments upset like well,
like I can't, just not, like Icould go to jail if I don't
follow orders.
I don't give a fuck.
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Honestly, I actually couldn'tgive a fuck less, because, hey
y'all, for the ones watching,you're probably like why is she
in a brand new outfit?
It's the next day.
I was mid-sentence and my SDcard said memory full.
So I went to switch out my SDcards with my backup one and it
said, like this SD card iswritten something I don't know.
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It wasn't working.
That's the important part.
So I had to go out get a new SDcard and then by the time I got
back, I was like, oh, I'll justfinish recording tomorrow,
because it was just I had to goout get a new sd card.
And then, by the time I gotback, I was like, uh, I'll just
finish recording tomorrow,because it was just, I had to go
to work and, like it justdidn't have enough time.
So donald trump really tried topull a j-lo and steal the voice
of a black woman, like, no,we're just gonna go get another
sd card and get back toregularly scheduled programming.
So anyway, as I was saying, theexcuse, oh, it's just my job,
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I'm just following orders.
It didn't work.
Oh, it's just my job, I'm justfollowing orders.
It didn't work before and it'snot going to work now, because I
don't give a fuck.
Your main order is to uphold theConstitution and to defend
citizens' rights.
And you, going to peacefulprotests and wreaking havoc is
literally fucking illegal.
Donald Trump sending in theNational Guard when even Gavin
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Newsom, the governor, said mostof the protests have been
peaceful.
The police here have already,you know, done what's needed to
be done.
We don't need any extra hands.
And you're just like no, I'mgonna do this because I don't
like that.
They're protesting me.
Fuck you, it doesn't matterwhat you like.
These are our fucking rights.
We're allowed to protestpeacefully, hello.
So the excuse is I could go tojail like I'm just following
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orders.
I don't give a fuck, becauseyour main order is to uphold the
constitution and uphold the law.
And then I had another person inmy comments who said that they
were in the national guard.
I don't know these people, butsaid he was in the national
guard.
He's talking about some uh, wedon't have enough time to know
all the laws, like.
When we get an order, we haveto follow it immediately.
We don't have enough time tolook in to see if it's a lawful
order.
If you don't know the laws,then you shouldn't be in the
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National Guard.
You saying I don't know a partof my job, then don't do that
fucking job.
I'm a full time nanny, outsideof content creation.
If I went to the interview andI was like, yeah, I don't really
know a lot about kids, I don'tknow about their physical and
emotional development, I don'tknow, know, you know how to
schedule things, like I wouldn'tget the fucking job right.
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Like hello, if you don't havethe qualifications, don't sign
up for that job.
So that's not an excuse to meeither.
And also, like, I feel like theright to free speech is a
pretty well known law.
No, like, like, come on now we.
That's not not an excuse at all.
I do not care, because again,at the end of the day, when you
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swear to that oath to uphold theconstitution and to follow
orders from the president whenthey align with the law, that's
what you swore to.
So if you feel like you can'tback that up and you can't stand
on business and stand on thatoath, then you shouldn't have
sworn to it in the first place.
I really don't know what to tellyou.
Like we, as us citizens, haverights and even whether y'all
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really like to believe it orrealize it or recognize it or
not illegal.
In quotes I say immigrants haverights as well.
Once they're here, they haverights.
You can't just deport themwithout due process.
Everyone has rights and Iliterally you cannot make me
give a fuck if somebody is inthe us legally or not.
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I genuinely that is propaganda Iwill never fall for.
I genuinely don't givea fuckbecause, at the end of the day,
if you are not native to thisland, you are here illegally.
This is stolen land.
So if you had land passed downfrom your ancestors, that was
stolen land.
So that's receiving stolenproperty, which is fucking
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illegal.
Or you were kidnapped from yourhome and brought here.
Kidnapping is illegal.
Like, if you are not native tothis land, you are here
illegally.
So you can't make me give afuck whether or not someone has
a paper or not.
And also, that's the stupidestfucking thing.
Like, think about it honestly.
If we can just change bordersor we can say this piece of land
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used to belong to this place,but now we're making this treaty
where now it belongs to thisspace, we're gonna change this
border, we're gonna do this,we're gonna do that.
I don't give a fuck.
They're not real.
None of it's real.
Borders are fucking real.
It's all land in america.
It's all fucking stolen.
So it's like I don't give afuck if they're just here and
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they want to come here and havea better life.
Some people literally try to getinto america on foot.
Some people try to swim acrossthe ocean to get to america.
You think that they're leavingtheir homes and trying to come
here by foot or by water becausethey just want to come here and
wreak havoc.
No, they're obviously trying toescape something.
Hence the reason they're onfoot or trying to swim here.
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Like you think they're justdoing this for their fucking
health.
In some cases maybe they are,but it's to benefit their health
, not to make their lives worse.
Like, can we just think for asecond?
Most people who immigrate herearen't here just to wreak
fucking havoc.
They're here to actually pullthemselves up by their
bootstraps and work really hardand do jobs that half of y'all
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who are so upset that immigrantsare here and want them gone the
jobs that they're doing youwouldn't even think about doing.
They're doing some of thehardest jobs in the fields with
crops, like.
They are the hardest workingpeople.
They are the backbone ofamerica.
America is literally a meltingpot.
It's's everyone here.
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If you're not native, is fromsomewhere else.
So it's like I don't care, likeI just you cannot make me care,
because these people just wanta better life for themselves and
their families and they'redoing hard work.
Literally, the backbone ofAmerica is immigrants and all
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they want is a better chance atlife.
All they want is to livepeacefully.
And you bitches are going intotheir homes, tearing up families
, going into.
There was one instance in LAwhere they went to a I can't
remember if it was a middleschool or high school, but it
was a graduation.
They went to a graduation totry to find illegal immigrants.
Or they go to like these peoplewho are you, you always say
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come here the right way.
They're going to court to tryto get legal status and they're
picking them up from their courtdates.
Like, what do you want thesepeople to do?
Holy fuck all, while mind yourooting and tooting for fucking
elon musk talking about howgreat of a human he is.
He's here to save america.
He was in america illegally atone point.
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He came to america on a studentvisa to attend stanford,
dropped out of stanford to workon one of his businesses, so
that would mean he needed a workvisa, but he didn't have a work
visa.
He had a student visa.
So when he dropped out ofcollege and started to just work
, he was here illegally.
He didn't have the correctpaperwork.
I've never heard them tell himto go back to africa.
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So, like, like, you don'tactually care about illegal
because, first of all, you'retalking about some oh my god,
they're breaking the law.
First of all, it's it's civil.
It's not a criminal charge,that's number one.
But second of all, the man whodid break the law criminally and
is a 34 time felon.
You were lining up skipping tothe election polls on the one in
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three beat to vote for him.
So it's like you don't actuallygive a fuck if someone's
breaking the law.
You give a fuck if they'rebreaking the law and if their
skin is too dark.
Like, let's be real, you'reliterally just fucking racist,
because we have this fuckingdried out orange in the white
house who is criminally afucking felon, and we have elon
musk, who violated the legallike ways to come here.
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Y'all never want to call themout for that, though.
The same people who are hootingand hollering about oh, they're
criminals, they came hereillegally do it the right way.
Criminal didn't do it the rightway.
We're not holding themaccountable, though.
What's the reason?
You're fucking racist.
Period, the fucking end.
Y'all are just a very unseriousgroup of people.
It's literally a cult.
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It's blindly following, shakingyour head in agreement to
whatever the fuck he says.
And it's like you.
You're just demented and sickindividuals.
If you feel like it is okay orit is a good thing that families
are being ripped apart, thatfriends are being are
disappearing, that people whohave fucking paperwork birth
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certificates, green cards,whatever are also being picked
up because of the color of theirskin, like this is the most
disgusting thing and it's aslippery fucking slope, like I
said before, and I feel likeeverything that he does is a
test and if he gets away with itonce, he's going to continue to
do it.
Do you know what I mean?
Like sending the national guardto la seeing if, if that goes
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over, well, I feel likeeverything is like a test run.
Everything's like a guinea pigbecause he has no idea what the
fuck he's doing, because he'snot a smart person like oh, I
get so angry because it's likewhen does somebody step in and
actually do something, likesomeone in congress or someone
like in a higher position.
When do we stop him?
Because this is getting reallyscary and history is literally
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repeating itself in front of oureyes and we can look at other
parts of history and be like howdid we let this happen?
How like how?
Why did nobody stop him?
Why is nobody stopping trump?
Why is nobody stopping him?
It is just really spooky timesand I'm also getting really
annoyed with the.
This isn't our fight.
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We're supposed to be resting.
Dah, dah, dah, dah.
If you wanna rest as someonewho's a part of the 92 or the
80%, if you feel like what youwanna do is rest and not speak
up or do whatever totally fair,go do that.
But when it gets to the pointwhere you're trying to berate or
to convince other people to notstand up or to speak out, I
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feel like that's an issue,because at the end of the day,
we all have a choice.
If your choice is to rest andyou don't want to speak up, you
don't want to do anything, youdon't want to be involved, by
all means go do that.
But if I want to speak about itbecause I feel like it's
important to me and I feel likeI want to speak about it, then
let me like I have that choicetoo.
You know what I mean, and Ikeep seeing DMs or comments that
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I'm getting of people beinglike, oh, like you should be
resting.
Like, let them handle it.
This isn't our fight.
There is a population of haitianimmigrants in the us who are
also being targeted.
There's also black immigrantsfrom the caribbean places like
jamaica, the panama.
There's also afro latinas.
Like the image that you have inyour brain when you think of
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latino or you think of immigrantis so much bigger than just
people from Mexico.
There are immigrants from allover who are black and brown,
that come to America.
So this is not just a Latinoproblem.
Or when you say it's animmigrant problem and you're
thinking, oh, the immigrantsfrom Mexico.
No, this is a problem for allimmigrants and also a problem
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for black americans.
Like if natural born hispanicand latino immigrants are also
being picked up, that could alsovery easily trickle down to
natural born black us citizensbeing picked up.
Do you know what I mean?
Like this is going to alsoaffect black people and even if
it's not immigrants who arebeing targeted, natural born
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citizens are also being targeted.
The right now I feel like themajority that I've seen are a
part of the latino community,but also that's not true either,
because black people havealways been a target in the us.
You know what I mean, andpeople are like, oh, it's gonna
be black people next.
It's black people right now,like the ha?
Haitian population, policebrutality, like those are things
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that are affecting black peopleand have affected black people
since the beginning of thisfucking country.
Do you know what I mean?
So it's like if people want tobring attention to it and they
want to talk about it and that'swhat they want to do, I feel
like that's important as well.
It's also important toprioritize your mental health
and if you feel like you want torest, you don't want to talk
about it, whatever, whateverthen go do that.
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That's, that's completely onyou and that is, if that's what
you want to do, that's yourchoice.
My choice because I can seethis slippery slope and I can
see how black people have beentreated in this country forever
is to call attention to it,because I think that it's
important and I think that weshould.
I'm not going to tell anyonewho feels like they want to rest
.
No, you need to get up.
You need to fight.
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You need to give me and otherpeople that same grace and stop
telling us what we should bedoing.
Let us do what we want to do.
You, you do what you want to doand we'll do what we want to do
.
And I feel like it is extremelyimportant to call out the
similarities of what's going onright now and what has gone on
in history, and how quickly thiscan get really bad.
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Like I'm I'm scared.
I feel like not only in the US,like he's damn near trying to
incite a civil war, but alsolike him fucking with other
countries.
Like I'm scared y'all, like Idon't.
I don't want to scare anybodyelse, but it's like we got to
realize these signs.
Like he is out of control andhe's just doing whatever the
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fuck he wants to do, and that'snot how America works, that's
not how our government works orit's not how it should work.
So I truly like someone needsto do something, like like what
the fuck?
This is going to get crazy outof hand, crazy fast if somebody
does not step in and dosomething.
So, with that being said, and aswe wrap up today's episode, to
everyone in la who wasexercising their first amendment
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right to peacefully protest.
I am so incredibly proud of you.
You are taking a stand insomething that is really
important and I want to give youyour flowers, but also I want
to remind you to please be safe.
We are in crazy, crazy timeswith this wannabe dictator in
office, and I just want to makesure that Everyone is being safe
.
Exercise your rights Absolutely, but please be safe while doing
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so.
Do not allow them to incite youto violence.
That is what they want, so thatthey can use force against you.
Bring extra water them toincite you to violence.
That is what they want, so thatthey can use force against you.
Bring extra water, um.
I'm pretty sure that I've heardthat milk also helps with things
like tear gas and differentthings like that to flush out
your eyes.
So make sure you have that interms of what you wear and
different things like that.
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Try to wear things that wouldmake you undetectable or
unidentifiable, like thingswithout logos or different
things like that a mask, if youcan wear that to cover your face
a little bit, or a hat, justsomething to cover your face.
I've also heard that goggles,swim goggles, lab goggles any
sort of goggle um will help withyour eyes with things like tear
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gas and other things like that.
Just remember your rights.
You, you know you don't have togive information.
If you don't want to, you canplead the fifth, and also for
immigrants as well, you haverights as well.
If you're stopped, you don'thave to answer any questions.
You don't have to give them anyinformation.
I just want to encourageeveryone to be safe, know your
rights, know what you can andcan't do, the things that you're
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able to withhold, the thingsthat you say.
Just don't incriminate yourself.
Don't allow them to incite youto violence.
That is what they want and thatis just.
I don't give them any reasonlike.
I've seen crazy videos of thepolice themselves, like smashing
in the police windows anddestroying property, and I know
that they're trying to use allof this in order to show like
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look, that's unpeaceful, that'swhy we're here.
Take as many videos as you can,record all of this document,
what you can and don't beincited to violence, because
that is what they want to givethem an excuse or reason as to
why they can do the shit thatthey're doing now.
I'm really just hopeful thatsomething will change soon.
I'm hoping that somebody in ahigher position will do
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something, because this is justthis.
Terrorizing cannot keephappening.
We're six months in Bitch, I'mtired.
I'm tired.
I need somebody to step in anddo something, but in the
meantime, just please, yes,utilize and exercise your rights
, but also prioritize yoursafety.
Please, just just be safe.
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Thank you guys, so much forwatching this episode.
I hope everyone is having agood week, except for that
orange drink lady and I willtalk to you in the next episode.
Peace and love.
Talk to you later.
The Napkin in Between, hostedby Daijné Jones.
Produced by Daijné Jones,post-production by Daijné Jones,
music by Sam Champagne.
A graphics by Isma Vidal Don'tforget to like and subscribe.
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See you next episode.
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Hello hello.
Uh-oh, another yapper with amic.
Ha ha ha ha.
Hello everyone, and welcomeback to the Napkin In Between
Podcast.
I am your host, Daijné Jones.
I hope everyone has been havinga good week, except for that
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orange drink lady, of courseY'all.
Summer is here.
Summer is finally here.
I know I've been saying in acouple of my episodes like I'm
so excited for summer, I can'twait for summer to be here.
Summer has arrived and I'm sohappy, like my mood is just so
much better when the sun is out,like sun's out buns out.
You know what I mean.
I feel like I kicked off mysummer in the best way, because
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the first thing I did to startoff the summer was see beyonce
in concert, which I meanstarting off summer with a
banger.
You know what I mean.
And then last weekend I went togov ball, which, if you're
unfamiliar with gov ball, it'snew york city's version of
coachella.
It's a three-day music festivaland I had a fucking a time was
had, a time was had.
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I only went on friday.
That was the only day that Iwas interested in, and so the
lineup that I was interested inseeing was t-pain tyla and tyla
the creator and t-pain.
He is like a timeless treasure,like we.
We don't talk about him enough.
The way that he's still aroundand relevant and still putting
on great shows.
I love that man and it's likehe pops in and out you know what
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I mean.
Like he'll pop in, he'll do asong with somebody, then he'll
pop back out.
He'll pop in, do a show andthen he'll pop back out.
At least that's what I'venoticed.
Maybe he's, maybe I'm just notkeeping up with him as much as
you know he's doing stuff, but Ifeel like he really pops in and
out and he did, of course, allthe throwback songs Low Up Down
Buy you a Drink, I'm in Lovewith a Stripper.
All I Do is Win Like ugh.
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I felt like I was transportedback to simpler times in high
school and college.
Like I say all the time, I wishI could go back to high school
or college because I just didn'tappreciate that time enough.
Like it was no bills, all fun,I was with my best friends, all
the time like, oh, I misscollege and I really wish.
I feel like my biggest regretof college and I was talking
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about this with Talia the otherday I wish that I had gone to an
HBCU.
Like that is my biggest regretfrom college is not going to an
HBCU.
I would have turned the fuck upat an hbcu like, but like when
I was going to high school, Igrew up in a predominantly white
area, very little black peoplelike it's.
Like my family and a coupleother families were the only
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black people in the town.
Most of my graduating class waswhite, like just surrounded by
whiteness, and my guidancecounselor, my teachers, like
nobody told me that there werethese things called hbcus, that,
like, I could go to and bearound other black people.
You know what I mean.
So I'm like I wish that I hadmore knowledge and I wish that I
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knew better about likedifferent colleges and like what
my opportunities were.
Because, honestly, like, mybiggest regret is either not
going to an hbcu or going tocollege at all.
Like college is not asnecessary as I feel, like it
maybe once was.
Like there are other thingsthat you can do and be
successful at and not need acollege degree for.
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Like, for example, me, creatingcontent.
You don't need a college degreeto be a content creator and
like, maybe, like if you didlike videography or editing or
cinematography, something likethat.
It would make your contentbetter, but, like, you can learn
that stuff on YouTube.
Everything that I've learnedabout content has been on
YouTube, or a tutorial orsomething.
You know what I mean.
So it's like you don't need acollege degree for that and it's
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like this is what I want to do.
This is what makes me happiestthe most is just making my silly
little videos and talking intoa mic and sitting on my bed.
You me happiest the most isjust making my silly little
videos and talking into a micand sitting on my bed.
You know what I mean.
So it's like I wish that I knewthat there were other options
rather than college, and I alsowish that I knew that HBCUs were
a thing.
Those are my two biggestregrets from college.
But anyway, t-pain was doing allthe throwbacks and I was
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transported back to college and,uh, it was just, he was so good
.
He was definitely my highlightof GovBall and this is the peak
of my week.
By the way, I don't know if Isaid that already, but I I just
love with.
They don't make music like thatanymore.
Like, oh, I just love him.
It was so good and he's such agood performer too.
He's so funny, he's a goodsinger.
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Like yes, he raps and differentthings like that, but like his
singing voice, he's such a goodsinger I was like blown away by
it.
So t-pan was definitely thehighlight for me.
And then my second favorite wastyla.
She was really, really good.
Her voice is so pretty.
She's so cute and tiny inperson like I didn't realize how
little she is, but she, she wasa great performer and you know,
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like tyla, she's that girl forreal.
Like I, I actually really liketyla.
And then tyler the creator.
Admittedly, I don't listen to alot of tyler the creator.
My roommate, talia, was mostexcited to see tyler the creator
.
I didn't really know any of thesongs that he was singing, but
it was a good show.
Like it was entertaining.
The only thing I didn't likeabout tyler the creator wasn't
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even tyler, it was the crowd.
Like they, everyone keptcreating mosh pits, and mosh
pits are one of the scariestthings that I've ever seen or
been slightly a part of.
Like I, I had never been a partof one before that and I had
never really seen one beforethat, but like that was like so
scary it would like people wouldpush you back and like create
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like this open empty circle, andthen everyone would rush into
the circle and start jumping andlike going crazy and it was
just so overstimulating and zeroout of ten.
Not a good time.
I did not like the mosh pits,but other than that, golf ball
was a really good time.
Um, I went last year too, andit's just.
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I just love live music.
I, if I can be at a concertlike every day of my life, I
probably would.
I just love listening to peoplesing, even if I don't really
know their songs or theirdiscography or you know whatever
, I just love hearing peoplesing.
I just love talented people.
You know what I mean.
I love people who can put on agood show or who can sing really
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well or just whatever you cando creatively.
I love seeing people do that,because I think that that's so
important to use your creativebrain, because I feel like
that's kind of an escape fromall the craziness in the world.
You know what I mean?
Like shit's going on always,all the time.
There's always something goingon and if you can just escape
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and listen to somebody becreative or be creative yourself
, I feel like that is truly,something that's really been
keeping me grounded this year isthat I've really been focusing
a lot more on my contentcreation, especially with the
podcast, and it's like that'sreally what brings me joy and
that's like where I find likesecurity and safety and just
like I can escape.
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That's like my escapism.
You know what I mean.
It's like my escapism, you knowwhat I mean.
It's like that's where I go tolike not really think, even
though I do, a lot of my contentis talking about world issues
and different things.
Like that.
I try to do it in a way that'sfun for me and that's fun for
you guys as well.
Like I do know, like I joke alot and sometimes I worry like
am I joking too much?
Like are they understanding themessage or is it more of the
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jokes that they're getting?
And I feel like I'm so gratefulbecause you guys truly
understand the messages that I'mtrying to put out.
Like I remember one time acouple months ago, someone had
commented from a fake account,of course that, um, my content
wasn't actually educational,like people were just tuning in
because I was funny or whatever.
And I'm not gonna lie like thatreally upset me, because I was
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like, yes, I love being funnyand I love being entertaining,
but at the end of the day, likeI want my content to stand for
something, I want my content tomean something, I want my
content to educate someone.
And so I was like boy, fuck you.
Like like you're lying, likethat's not true.
And so I I made a video and Iasked you guys, like you know
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well, actually first him, and Iwent back and forth a little bit
I'm assuming it was a man,because very much man energy.
Um, we were going back andforth a little bit and I was
like no, that's not true.
Like people follow me becauseI'm educational.
And he was like no, You're justentertaining.
And so I said to him like I'mgonna make a video tomorrow With
this comment and I'm just gonnaask my audience, like why do
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y'all follow me?
And so I made the video.
I deleted our comment threadbecause I didn't want any of you
to go back and read what wewere saying and then just side
With me.
I wanted it to be your realanswers.
And so I deleted the commentthread and I made a video asking
you guys, like what made youfollow me?
Like, why do you engage with me, whatever, whatever and what do
you fucking know?
A lot of the comments were like, oh, you're educational, you
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stand up for black people, youstand up for black women, you
stand up for people in thelgbtqia plus community, you
stand up for trans women likebasically affirming that you
guys understand the importanceand the the realness behind my
content, and that made me feelreally happy.
And then he blocked me becausehe was wrong.
Like, bitch, apologize to meright now because you hurt my
feelings and I didn't like that.
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But thankfully I found out thatyou guys are, you know, being
educated about my content, whichis the entire goal.
Like, yes, I like being funny,yes, I love snatching that
orange drink, ladies wig everychance that I get.
But, more than anything, I likeeducating and I like making it
digestible to everyone.
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I feel like I've been told thata couple times by you guys is
like my content is educationaland digestible and I love that.
That is like the bestcompliment that I've ever
received is that you guys cantruly learn from my content,
which is amazing.
So, anyway, gumpall was amazing.
I love seeing people be creativeand I just love live music, and
so I'm just excited becausesummer is here, summer is here
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and I'm excited and I just wantto do so much this summer.
So if you see me outside, don'tbe alarmed.
Outside is calling and I'manswering the phone every time.
That has been the peak of myweek.
Please tell me the peak of yourweek.
Something that made you smile,kept you grounded.
That has been the peak of myweek.
Please tell me the peak of yourweek.
Something that made you smile,kept you grounded, kept you sane
in the chaos of the world.
Speaking of chaos and needingcreativity or something to
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ground you and be your safespace and be your escape.
I wanna talk about what's goingon in LA right now, because
this is an extremely slipperyslope and I'm not gonna yai, I'm
really scared that we are goingto tumble down this slope if
somebody doesn't do something,and do something fast.
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So, as we know, one of Trump'sbiggest promises on the campaign
trail was to deport illegalimmigrants and get the illegals
and the criminals and whateverout of the US, which is crazy
because he's a criminal himself.
So when are you leaving?
First and foremost, but anyway.
So ever since he was sworn in,there have been ice raids.
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They're going into schools,churches, like anywhere to find
quote-unquote illegal immigrantsand like deport them.
Keep in mind that some of thepeople that they're detaining
are not illegal immigrants.
They are people who have birthcertificates, there are people
who have green cards, there arepeople who were born here, who
have lived here their entirelives and, just like anyone and
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everyone that is not a whiteperson is like, they're like
targeting or they're trying toround up.
And so in la recently, therehave been protests because of
the ICE raids and people areprotesting, ice and then
breaking up families anddeporting people from the US,
and Trump deployed the NationalGuard to LA and essentially said
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that the protests were notpeaceful and that LA residents
were destroying the city and thenational guard needed to go
there to bring the peace.
I say in quotes because they'renot there to bring peace,
they're there to disrupt it.
Um, and so now, ever since thenational guard has gone to la,
they've been essentiallyterrorizing the citizens and the
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residents there as they'repeacefully protesting.
They're shooting them withpellets, they're tear gassing
them, they're they're justwreaking havoc.
They're literally, like I said,they're not there to bring
peace, they're there to disruptit.
And this is insanely scary to mebecause, as us citizens.
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We have the right to protest.
That is in the First Amendmentof our Constitution.
We have the right to peacefullyprotest.
And the fact that Trump,because he doesn't like that
people are protesting and thathe doesn't like what's happening
, he's sending in the NationalGuard to terrorize these people
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and essentially strip them oftheir rights is so fucking scary
.
Trump wants to be a dictator sofucking bad.
Anyone who speaks out againsthim, him, anyone who protests
against what he's doing, hefeels like they are criminals
and they're doing somethingwrong and he should be able to
do whatever he wants to silencethem.
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That's not how america works.
America is not a dictatorship.
We as citizens have rights.
And the fact that the nationalguard you swore to an oath, you
swore to uphold the constitution, you swore to follow
presidential orders when theywere in line with the law, right
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?
So I I honestly don't give afuck.
I made a video the other dayand I said the excuse like we're
just following orders is notgonna fucking cut it.
And there were army people inmy comments upset like well,
like I can't, just not, like Icould go to jail if I don't
follow orders.
I don't give a fuck.
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Honestly, I actually couldn'tgive a fuck less, because, hey
y'all, for the ones watching,you're probably like why is she
in a brand new outfit?
It's the next day.
I was mid-sentence and my SDcard said memory full.
So I went to switch out my SDcards with my backup one and it
said, like this SD card iswritten something I don't know.
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It wasn't working.
That's the important part.
So I had to go out get a new SDcard and then by the time I got
back, I was like, oh, I'll justfinish recording tomorrow,
because it was just I had to goout get a new sd card.
And then, by the time I gotback, I was like, uh, I'll just
finish recording tomorrow,because it was just, I had to go
to work and, like it justdidn't have enough time.
So donald trump really tried topull a j-lo and steal the voice
of a black woman, like, no,we're just gonna go get another
sd card and get back toregularly scheduled programming.
So anyway, as I was saying, theexcuse, oh, it's just my job,
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I'm just following orders.
It didn't work.
Oh, it's just my job, I'm justfollowing orders.
It didn't work before and it'snot going to work now, because I
don't give a fuck.
Your main order is to uphold theConstitution and to defend
citizens' rights.
And you, going to peacefulprotests and wreaking havoc is
literally fucking illegal.
Donald Trump sending in theNational Guard when even Gavin
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Newsom, the governor, said mostof the protests have been
peaceful.
The police here have already,you know, done what's needed to
be done.
We don't need any extra hands.
And you're just like no, I'mgonna do this because I don't
like that.
They're protesting me.
Fuck you, it doesn't matterwhat you like.
These are our fucking rights.
We're allowed to protestpeacefully, hello.
So the excuse is I could go tojail like I'm just following
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orders.
I don't give a fuck, becauseyour main order is to uphold the
constitution and uphold the law.
And then I had another person inmy comments who said that they
were in the national guard.
I don't know these people, butsaid he was in the national
guard.
He's talking about some uh, wedon't have enough time to know
all the laws, like.
When we get an order, we haveto follow it immediately.
We don't have enough time tolook in to see if it's a lawful
order.
If you don't know the laws,then you shouldn't be in the
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National Guard.
You saying I don't know a partof my job, then don't do that
fucking job.
I'm a full time nanny, outsideof content creation.
If I went to the interview andI was like, yeah, I don't really
know a lot about kids, I don'tknow about their physical and
emotional development, I don'tknow, know, you know how to
schedule things, like I wouldn'tget the fucking job right.
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Like hello, if you don't havethe qualifications, don't sign
up for that job.
So that's not an excuse to meeither.
And also, like, I feel like theright to free speech is a
pretty well known law.
No, like, like, come on now we.
That's not not an excuse at all.
I do not care, because again,at the end of the day, when you
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swear to that oath to uphold theconstitution and to follow
orders from the president whenthey align with the law, that's
what you swore to.
So if you feel like you can'tback that up and you can't stand
on business and stand on thatoath, then you shouldn't have
sworn to it in the first place.
I really don't know what to tellyou.
Like we, as us citizens, haverights and even whether y'all
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really like to believe it orrealize it or recognize it or
not illegal.
In quotes I say immigrants haverights as well.
Once they're here, they haverights.
You can't just deport themwithout due process.
Everyone has rights and Iliterally you cannot make me
give a fuck if somebody is inthe us legally or not.
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I genuinely that is propaganda Iwill never fall for.
I genuinely don't givea fuckbecause, at the end of the day,
if you are not native to thisland, you are here illegally.
This is stolen land.
So if you had land passed downfrom your ancestors, that was
stolen land.
So that's receiving stolenproperty, which is fucking
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illegal.
Or you were kidnapped from yourhome and brought here.
Kidnapping is illegal.
Like, if you are not native tothis land, you are here
illegally.
So you can't make me give afuck whether or not someone has
a paper or not.
And also, that's the stupidestfucking thing.
Like, think about it honestly.
If we can just change bordersor we can say this piece of land
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used to belong to this place,but now we're making this treaty
where now it belongs to thisspace, we're gonna change this
border, we're gonna do this,we're gonna do that.
I don't give a fuck.
They're not real.
None of it's real.
Borders are fucking real.
It's all land in america.
It's all fucking stolen.
So it's like I don't give afuck if they're just here and
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they want to come here and havea better life.
Some people literally try to getinto america on foot.
Some people try to swim acrossthe ocean to get to america.
You think that they're leavingtheir homes and trying to come
here by foot or by water becausethey just want to come here and
wreak havoc.
No, they're obviously trying toescape something.
Hence the reason they're onfoot or trying to swim here.
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Like you think they're justdoing this for their fucking
health.
In some cases maybe they are,but it's to benefit their health
, not to make their lives worse.
Like, can we just think for asecond?
Most people who immigrate herearen't here just to wreak
fucking havoc.
They're here to actually pullthemselves up by their
bootstraps and work really hardand do jobs that half of y'all
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who are so upset that immigrantsare here and want them gone the
jobs that they're doing youwouldn't even think about doing.
They're doing some of thehardest jobs in the fields with
crops, like.
They are the hardest workingpeople.
They are the backbone ofamerica.
America is literally a meltingpot.
It's's everyone here.
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If you're not native, is fromsomewhere else.
So it's like I don't care, likeI just you cannot make me care,
because these people just wanta better life for themselves and
their families and they'redoing hard work.
Literally, the backbone ofAmerica is immigrants and all
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they want is a better chance atlife.
All they want is to livepeacefully.
And you bitches are going intotheir homes, tearing up families
, going into.
There was one instance in LAwhere they went to a I can't
remember if it was a middleschool or high school, but it
was a graduation.
They went to a graduation totry to find illegal immigrants.
Or they go to like these peoplewho are you, you always say
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come here the right way.
They're going to court to tryto get legal status and they're
picking them up from their courtdates.
Like, what do you want thesepeople to do?
Holy fuck all, while mind yourooting and tooting for fucking
elon musk talking about howgreat of a human he is.
He's here to save america.
He was in america illegally atone point.
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He came to america on a studentvisa to attend stanford,
dropped out of stanford to workon one of his businesses, so
that would mean he needed a workvisa, but he didn't have a work
visa.
He had a student visa.
So when he dropped out ofcollege and started to just work
, he was here illegally.
He didn't have the correctpaperwork.
I've never heard them tell himto go back to africa.
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So, like, like, you don'tactually care about illegal
because, first of all, you'retalking about some oh my god,
they're breaking the law.
First of all, it's it's civil.
It's not a criminal charge,that's number one.
But second of all, the man whodid break the law criminally and
is a 34 time felon.
You were lining up skipping tothe election polls on the one in
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three beat to vote for him.
So it's like you don't actuallygive a fuck if someone's
breaking the law.
You give a fuck if they'rebreaking the law and if their
skin is too dark.
Like, let's be real, you'reliterally just fucking racist,
because we have this fuckingdried out orange in the white
house who is criminally afucking felon, and we have elon
musk, who violated the legallike ways to come here.
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Y'all never want to call themout for that, though.
The same people who are hootingand hollering about oh, they're
criminals, they came hereillegally do it the right way.
Criminal didn't do it the rightway.
We're not holding themaccountable, though.
What's the reason?
You're fucking racist.
Period, the fucking end.
Y'all are just a very unseriousgroup of people.
It's literally a cult.
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It's blindly following, shakingyour head in agreement to
whatever the fuck he says.
And it's like you.
You're just demented and sickindividuals.
If you feel like it is okay orit is a good thing that families
are being ripped apart, thatfriends are being are
disappearing, that people whohave fucking paperwork birth
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certificates, green cards,whatever are also being picked
up because of the color of theirskin, like this is the most
disgusting thing and it's aslippery fucking slope, like I
said before, and I feel likeeverything that he does is a
test and if he gets away with itonce, he's going to continue to
do it.
Do you know what I mean?
Like sending the national guardto la seeing if, if that goes
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over, well, I feel likeeverything is like a test run.
Everything's like a guinea pigbecause he has no idea what the
fuck he's doing, because he'snot a smart person like oh, I
get so angry because it's likewhen does somebody step in and
actually do something, likesomeone in congress or someone
like in a higher position.
When do we stop him?
Because this is getting reallyscary and history is literally
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repeating itself in front of oureyes and we can look at other
parts of history and be like howdid we let this happen?
How like how?
Why did nobody stop him?
Why is nobody stopping trump?
Why is nobody stopping him?
It is just really spooky timesand I'm also getting really
annoyed with the.
This isn't our fight.
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We're supposed to be resting.
Dah, dah, dah, dah.
If you wanna rest as someonewho's a part of the 92 or the
80%, if you feel like what youwanna do is rest and not speak
up or do whatever totally fair,go do that.
But when it gets to the pointwhere you're trying to berate or
to convince other people to notstand up or to speak out, I
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feel like that's an issue,because at the end of the day,
we all have a choice.
If your choice is to rest andyou don't want to speak up, you
don't want to do anything, youdon't want to be involved, by
all means go do that.
But if I want to speak about itbecause I feel like it's
important to me and I feel likeI want to speak about it, then
let me like I have that choicetoo.
You know what I mean, and Ikeep seeing DMs or comments that
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I'm getting of people beinglike, oh, like you should be
resting.
Like, let them handle it.
This isn't our fight.
There is a population of haitianimmigrants in the us who are
also being targeted.
There's also black immigrantsfrom the caribbean places like
jamaica, the panama.
There's also afro latinas.
Like the image that you have inyour brain when you think of
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latino or you think of immigrantis so much bigger than just
people from Mexico.
There are immigrants from allover who are black and brown,
that come to America.
So this is not just a Latinoproblem.
Or when you say it's animmigrant problem and you're
thinking, oh, the immigrantsfrom Mexico.
No, this is a problem for allimmigrants and also a problem
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for black americans.
Like if natural born hispanicand latino immigrants are also
being picked up, that could alsovery easily trickle down to
natural born black us citizensbeing picked up.
Do you know what I mean?
Like this is going to alsoaffect black people and even if
it's not immigrants who arebeing targeted, natural born
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citizens are also being targeted.
The right now I feel like themajority that I've seen are a
part of the latino community,but also that's not true either,
because black people havealways been a target in the us.
You know what I mean, andpeople are like, oh, it's gonna
be black people next.
It's black people right now,like the ha?
Haitian population, policebrutality, like those are things
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that are affecting black peopleand have affected black people
since the beginning of thisfucking country.
Do you know what I mean?
So it's like if people want tobring attention to it and they
want to talk about it and that'swhat they want to do, I feel
like that's important as well.
It's also important toprioritize your mental health
and if you feel like you want torest, you don't want to talk
about it, whatever, whateverthen go do that.
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That's, that's completely onyou and that is, if that's what
you want to do, that's yourchoice.
My choice because I can seethis slippery slope and I can
see how black people have beentreated in this country forever
is to call attention to it,because I think that it's
important and I think that weshould.
I'm not going to tell anyonewho feels like they want to rest
.
No, you need to get up.
You need to fight.
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You need to give me and otherpeople that same grace and stop
telling us what we should bedoing.
Let us do what we want to do.
You, you do what you want to doand we'll do what we want to do
.
And I feel like it is extremelyimportant to call out the
similarities of what's going onright now and what has gone on
in history, and how quickly thiscan get really bad.
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Like I'm I'm scared.
I feel like not only in the US,like he's damn near trying to
incite a civil war, but alsolike him fucking with other
countries.
Like I'm scared y'all, like Idon't.
I don't want to scare anybodyelse, but it's like we got to
realize these signs.
Like he is out of control andhe's just doing whatever the
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fuck he wants to do, and that'snot how America works, that's
not how our government works orit's not how it should work.
So I truly like someone needsto do something, like like what
the fuck?
This is going to get crazy outof hand, crazy fast if somebody
does not step in and dosomething.
So, with that being said, and aswe wrap up today's episode, to
everyone in la who wasexercising their first amendment
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right to peacefully protest.
I am so incredibly proud of you.
You are taking a stand insomething that is really
important and I want to give youyour flowers, but also I want
to remind you to please be safe.
We are in crazy, crazy timeswith this wannabe dictator in
office, and I just want to makesure that Everyone is being safe
.
Exercise your rights Absolutely, but please be safe while doing
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so.
Do not allow them to incite youto violence.
That is what they want, so thatthey can use force against you.
Bring extra water them toincite you to violence.
That is what they want, so thatthey can use force against you.
Bring extra water, um.
I'm pretty sure that I've heardthat milk also helps with things
like tear gas and differentthings like that to flush out
your eyes.
So make sure you have that interms of what you wear and
different things like that.
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Try to wear things that wouldmake you undetectable or
unidentifiable, like thingswithout logos or different
things like that a mask, if youcan wear that to cover your face
a little bit, or a hat, justsomething to cover your face.
I've also heard that goggles,swim goggles, lab goggles any
sort of goggle um will help withyour eyes with things like tear
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gas and other things like that.
Just remember your rights.
You, you know you don't have togive information.
If you don't want to, you canplead the fifth, and also for
immigrants as well, you haverights as well.
If you're stopped, you don'thave to answer any questions.
You don't have to give them anyinformation.
I just want to encourageeveryone to be safe, know your
rights, know what you can andcan't do, the things that you're
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able to withhold, the thingsthat you say.
Just don't incriminate yourself.
Don't allow them to incite youto violence.
That is what they want and thatis just.
I don't give them any reasonlike.
I've seen crazy videos of thepolice themselves, like smashing
in the police windows anddestroying property, and I know
that they're trying to use allof this in order to show like
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look, that's unpeaceful, that'swhy we're here.
Take as many videos as you can,record all of this document,
what you can and don't beincited to violence, because
that is what they want to givethem an excuse or reason as to
why they can do the shit thatthey're doing now.
I'm really just hopeful thatsomething will change soon.
I'm hoping that somebody in ahigher position will do
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something, because this is justthis.
Terrorizing cannot keephappening.
We're six months in Bitch, I'mtired.
I'm tired.
I need somebody to step in anddo something, but in the
meantime, just please, yes,utilize and exercise your rights
, but also prioritize yoursafety.
Please, just just be safe.
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Thank you guys, so much forwatching this episode.
I hope everyone is having agood week, except for that
orange drink lady and I willtalk to you in the next episode.
Peace and love.
Talk to you later.
The Napkin in Between, hostedby Daijné Jones.
Produced by Daijné Jones,post-production by Daijné Jones,
music by Sam Champagne.
A graphics by Isma Vidal Don'tforget to like and subscribe.
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