May 18, 2025 • 23 mins
Cancel Zues Network, Cancel the cookout, CANCEL EVERYTHING!!!!! I had an entirely different thing to talk about today, but my morning scroll through social media revealed content that demanded immediate attention—a reality where Emmett Till's name is carelessly used as an insult while others demonstrate complete ignorance about his historical significance. This cultural disconnect ignited a passionate exploration of how historical awareness shapes our present understanding.
Through an unfiltered examination of American history's whitewashing, from misconceptions about Abraham Lincoln to the ongoing exploitation of harmful stereotypes, I challenge listeners to recognize how historical ignorance enables oppression. When we allow our history to be misused or forgotten, we become complicit in our own marginalization.
My frustration extends to problematic trends like claiming white people with ginger hair are somehow "Black" - a bizarre assertion that trivializes actual Black identity while real Black and biracial individuals often have their Blackness questioned. This pattern of simultaneously appropriating and rejecting Blackness reveals troubling contradictions in our cultural conversations about race.
This episode stands as both personal reflection and urgent call to action. It's time to lock in—to educate ourselves, challenge harmful representations, and sometimes, to close ranks until we've strengthened our foundations. As I declare near the episode's end: the cookout is canceled until further notice. Not as rejection, but as a necessary pause for reflection and recalibration. Join me in this honest conversation about finding joy in simple pleasures while confronting the complex realities that demand our attention and action.
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Daijné (00:00):
Is this thing on?
Hello hello?
Uh oh, another yapper with amic.
Hello everyone and welcome backto the Napkin Inbetween podcast
.
I am your host, Daijné Jones.
I hope everyone is having agood day, except for that orange
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drink lady.
I also hope people have beenspending more time outside
because the weather, at least inNew York.
Hopefully you guys areexperiencing this wherever you
are, but the weather has been somuch nicer recently and I'm so
fucking excited.
Summer is right around thecorner and I want to be outside
more than anything.
These past couple of days havejust been so sunny and so nice
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and I feel like right now,because I'm bald or don't have
much hair, I feel like I'mfeeling the sun more than ever
right now and I just feel likeme and the sun are like this
right now For the audiolisteners, my fingers are
interlinked, like we're lockedin for real.
Right now, I feel like I'mfeeling everything so much more
right now, like physically,because of the fact that I don't
have any hair, don't have verymuch hair, and one of my
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favorite feelings so far hasjust been the sun on my scalp,
like it's just been such a greatfeeling and this has been the
peak of my week is just feelingthe sun on my head.
I don't know how to explain it.
I just feel like we're lockedin real bad, and I feel like I
shaved my head at the perfecttime because the weather is
getting nicer and I just feellike I'm feeling everything more
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deeply like even like myemotions too, and like
physically, like I'm feeling thesun deeper and I don't know.
It's just been like a reallylife-changing thing and I'm
going on.
I think week three, week, I'm alittle bit.
It's been a little over twoweeks since I shaved my head and
um, showers, oh my god.
The showers are immaculate, thefeeling of the warm water, the
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steam, like I don't knoweverything.
I'm just feeling everything somuch deeper and it's been so
nice.
the only issue that I had was,like when I was fully bald, like
the first couple of days aftershaving my head, my sheets and
my bonnet were the mostuncomfortable feeling it felt
like I could feel every fabricof my sheets and my bonnet just
like seeping into my prefrontalcortex, like literally, it was
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just the most uncomfortablething but thankfully that only
lasted the first couple of days,and my sheets and bonnet feel
fine now but, that was the peakof my week and also because the
weather is getting nicer, I gota pedicure, which is a form of
self care for me.
I love getting pedicures.
I get pedicures year round.
It had been a couple of monthssince I had gotten one, though
for whatever reason, I justdon't know I just didn't go.
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So it was technically my firstpedicure of the year, and I've
been going to the same pedicureplace for a while now.
So when I walked in, they werelike where have you been?
Like we haven't seen you inmonths.
And I'm like I know, I just Idon't know, I just didn't
schedule one, but they're sofunny because I sat down in the
chair and they're like whatcolor?
And I'm like, girl, you knowwhat color?
like I know you sensed me comingand you went to hide the white.
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Go back to wherever you hid itand bring the white here.
I don't know why I always getwhite on my on my toes for my
pedicures, but it's just white,is just the best color to get on
your toes.
I can't explain it and itdoesn't need to be explained.
The girls that get it get it.
But I sat down, I'm getting mypedicure and because it had been
a couple months, my feet werelooking like it had been a
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couple months.
So they pulled out the fuckingcheese grater and I I love the
cheese grater because it's like,yes, I get all that dry,
cracked skin off of my feet, butmy feet are so fucking ticklish
so I'm sitting there and tryingnot to like pull my foot back.
It's like my involuntaryreaction is to like pull my foot
back because it's like ticklingand my least favorite thing is
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being tickled, which sucks,because I'm very, very ticklish,
but she's like she's grating myfeet.
I'm trying not to pull my footback and also, out of nowhere, I
like had to pee, so I'm like ohmy god, like I'm about to pee
on myself because my fuckingfeet are being tickled.
Anyway, love getting a pedicure, so that was definitely the
peak of my week as well, justgetting a pedicure, and it's
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just all a reminder to me thatit's getting nicer outside and
summer is coming and I am goingto be outside.
I have so many things plannedfor the summer, things that I
want to plan for the summer, soI'm just really, really excited
for summer so that's definitelybeen the peak of my week.
As always, I want to hear thepeak of your week, something
that helped you smile, kept yougrounded, just something that
you found joy in in the chaos ofthis world.
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Speaking of summer, actually Ihad an entire thing planned for
today that I was going to talkabout, um, but I saw a video
this morning that pissed meclean the fuck off, like I was
already pissed off going intowatching the video just because
of the subject of the video, butthen I watched the video and I
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was like I didn't realize thatthis situation could piss me off
even more, but somehow itfucking did so this morning I
woke up in a great mood.
I slept really well.
Last night I was having somebreakfast chilling with my dog
and as I'm eating breakfast I'mreading the morning paper.
Ie scrolling on TikTok and Ihappen to scroll past this video
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.
I'm gonna put a clip in here nowdo y'all think Zeus gonna get
shut down because of what Summersaid?
So they might be cancelingSummer for good now with this
little clip with a baddie littlething I've been seeing.
So Summer was telling somebodythat they face look like Emmett
Till.
Allegedly Emmett Till is a SAvictim.
The girl was only 14.
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I I'm so pissed off Like I don'teven have fucking words.
I am so pissed off.
There is so much about thiswhole situation that is just
irking my fucking soul and I hadan entire thing to talk about
today.
I can't focus on anything rightnow because I have to talk
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about this, because I am pissedthe fuck off.
So, first and foremost, I don'twatch anything on Zeus, much
less fucking baddies, okay.
So from what I can gather, fromwhat I've seen online, there's
someone on baddies.
Her name is Summer and I guessshe got into an altercation with
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someone else on the show like aphysical altercation.
And after the physicalaltercation, she was like oh,
like, your face looks likeEmmett Till.
Immediately I'm pissed off.
Right, because Mammie Till didnot have an open casket funeral
to show the atrocities thathappened to her son.
For y'all to use that shit as afucking dig at somebody else.
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Let's start there.
How fucking disrespectful is itfor you to use the mutilation
of a child who was lied on andlynched?
You're using that as a dig atsomeone else.
Ronald Reagan is tap dancing inhis fucking grave right now.
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First let me start at the headof it all, which is Zeus Network
.
I have never watched a singlething on Zeus Network, much less
baddies, because I'm so tiredof pushing of these negative
stereotypes on black women.
Is there nothing else thaty'all see black women as, other
than fucking people who fighteach other?
Like I just I can't get behindzeus network.
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I can't get behind anythingthat's on there, especially
baddies.
So that's number one thatpissed me off.
I need zeus network to be off,cancel it, cut the cable, cut
the cameras.
Like stop supporting zeusnetwork.
All it's doing is pushing thesenegative stereotypes onto black
women.
There are other ways to showblack women right.
Black women live in luxury,black women are the most
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educated group of people inamerica.
Like.
We have to stop supportingthese networks and these shows
that literally just show us asthese negative stereotypes that
have been pushed onto us.
So that's number one.
Number two again using EmmettTill as a dig at someone else is
fucking, crazy, crazy, wicked,fucking work.
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But then for someone to getonline and not even know who
Emmett Till is talking aboutsome he's an SA victim, I just
don't have words.
Like this shit.
I'm so fucking pissed off and Ithink it's pissing me off so
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much because Emmett Till and hismurder because of the lies of a
white woman.
I feel like that, thinking backto high school and like
learning American history, Ifeel like that's the only thing
that they taught in history thatthey didn't try to whitewash.
You know what I mean?
Because so much of Americanhistory is whitewashed or they
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leave out so much of it thatit's like this is not true
history, like, for example, theytalk about how Abraham Lincoln
freed the slaves.
Abraham Lincoln didn't free shit.
Okay, first of all, AbrahamLincoln was a disgusting,
fucking racist.
Okay, the only reason that hewanted to "free the slaves, I
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say in quotes, is because he didnot believe in race mixing.
He viewed slavery as racemixing.
He wanted to free the slavesand then he suggested, or wanted
, black people to go somewhereelse.
He did not want them in America.
That was one of his mainpremises or main goals of
freeing the slaves.
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And for the audio listeners,you can't see, but I'm saying
this in quotes because he didn'tfree shit.
Okay, his other goal of freeingthe slaves was to weaken the
South.
Of freeing the slaves was toweaken the South.
Right, it was a political ploy.
He wanted number one, he wantedtheir economy to be weakened.
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And number two, he wanted tofree the slaves, for them to
come and then join the UnionArmy against the South.
It was, it was all for hisbenefit.
It wasn't just to like.
He wasn't like this, saint ortrying to help black people, or
he viewed black people, as youknow, equal to white people.
He was an extreme whitesupremacist.
He thought that white peoplewere superior to black people
and he wanted black people goneor he wanted them fighting in
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the union army against thestates.
That succeeded.
Also, again, because it was apolitical ploy.
When he "freed the slaves itwas only in states that had
seceded.
So again, it was just apolitical ploy to weaken the
south or to weaken theconfederacy.
I should say.
They talk about the emancipationproclamation and the 13th
amendment and how it "freed theslaves, but they leave out the
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part where there's that littleloophole where you can't make
someone work against their willunless they're paying for a
punishment of a crime, and howthat was immediately exploited.
And after the slaves were freed, black men were arrested for
petty things like loitering andthen they were put right back on
the plantations.
Like they don't teach that inschool.
They never taught me that in inmy high school I don't know if
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it was just my high school ormost high schools, but I feel
like people don't know if it wasjust my high school or most
high schools, but I feel likepeople don't know that
information.
They don't know that AbrahamLincoln was a disgusting racist
and he didn't "free the slavesbecause he just loved black
people.
Also another example of them nottelling true history George
Washington, I always heard inschool.
Oh, he had wooden teeth.
His teeth were slave teeth.
Like his, his teeth were fromslaves.
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You know what I mean.
So it's like looking back onhigh school and the things that
I learned in high school like alot of the history is either
whitewashed, or it's not thefull story, or it's twisted in a
way that makes people who arereally bad people seem like good
people when they're actuallynot.
And.
I feel like the only time that Ireally got an accurate history
lesson is the story of EmmettTill and what happened to him.
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And so for people to be usingEmmett Till as a dig or to be
like talking about it and noteven know who Emmett Till is,
that like truly makes my bloodboil, because y'all so tuned
into baddies, watching baddies,you all the tea, all this
bullshit, but you don't know whoEmmett Till is.
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You don't know that he wasbrutally beaten and lynched and
his body was thrown into theTallahatchie River because a
white woman said that hewhistled at her, grabbed her,
which she then recanted yearslater.
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You don't know that anall-white jury deliberated for
only 67 minutes to find thesemen not guilty, only for them to
turn around and, because ofdouble jeopardy, be able to
admit to the murder and sayexactly what they did and sold
the story for four thousanddollars to look magazine, which
in today's equivalency would bearound $46,000.
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Like youdon't know any of this.
You don't know that his motherdecided to have an open casket
funeral so that the world couldsee what they had done to her
son, that he was inrecognizable,that his face was bloated and
his body was mutilated?
Like I don't know.
I don't know.
It just really like makes myblood boil because it's like how
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do you not know?
Like did your schools not teachyou this?
And at this point, like I can'tjust blame the schools and yeah
, fuck, george Bush, because youbitches should have been left
behind, but it's like you atsome point have to educate
yourself.
We are in 2025.
We have computers that we carryaround with us every fucking
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day, that y'all use to tune intofucking baddies and all this
tea, but you don't know thestory of Emmett Till.
You don't?
Like I want to scream right now.
I'm taking everything in me notto scream because I'd probably
break the sound barrier andburst somebody's eardrums, but
like I I'm just so flabbergasted, I don't know, I don't have
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fucking words and it's just likeit's so frustrating and it's so
disheartening because shit likethis still happens today.
Like black people are underattack and have been under
attack in this country sincethey forced us to come here like
lynching still happened today,police brutality still happens
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today.
Like we have to fight for ourlives to understand our history
and to understand how it's stillaffecting us today, because
again, they whitewash anddownplay so much shit.
I try to show grace, especiallyto black women, but like fuck,
like I can't show grace in thesituation.
Y'all have got to lock the fuckin.
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Lock the fuck in.
Like what is going on, what ishappening?
I don't know who to blame, butI need someone to pay for these
crimes.
Like is it George Bush?
Is it social media?
Is it high schools and notteaching actual history?
Like is it just y'all notcaring about history and how it
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still affects your lives today?
It's a mix of all of thesethings.
I think probably, but like fuck, can we please get it together?
Like I can't.
This is just not real.
Like this is not real.
There are very few instanceswhere I feel like I've ever been
at a loss for words, but thisis definitely one of them.
Like I don't know what else tosay other than lock the fuck in,
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turn off baddies and turn onPBS Kids, because y'all need so
many fucking history lessons.
It's not fucking, it's just notreal.
I need to see zeus networkcanceled by noon yesterday and
everyone who's had anything todo with it.
Fuck, every single person whohas anything to do with zeus
network.
I'm so tired of these negativestereotypes.
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I'm so tired of just like this.
It's just bullshit.
Like you're just rotting yourbrain watching this shit.
Black women are so much morethan that.
Like it gets to a point.
Are y'all not tired of seeingthis shit over and over and over
?
Brains are being rotted as wespeak, like I I'm gonna crash
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the fuck out.
I swear to god, fuck all ofthis shit.
Honestly, fuck zeus, fucksummer, fuck natalie nunn, fuck
all those bitches, fuck anyonewho does not understand or know
history.
Like, fuck all of it.
This is so fucking stupid.
Like I hate you bitches.
I really fucking do.
I fear that my people willnever be free and it it truly
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makes me sick to my stomach.
And also Another thing that'spissing me off this week this
whole trend about gingers beingblack.
Wrap that shit up.
Wrap this shit up immediately.
So this woman made a video andshe was saying like gingers are
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black.
Like she was like, if you see awhite man with ginger hair,
that's a black man, if you see awhite woman with ginger hair,
that's a black woman.
And I thought she was joking atfirst.
Not that that's anything thatyou should even be joking about.
Let's start there.
I don't think that's's a funnyjoke.
But then she made a follow-upvideo and was like really trying
to explain.
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Like she was dead ass, like shethinks if you have ginger hair
then you're black and it's justtoo far, it's just too much.
You know what I mean.
Like I would say that gingersare the black people of white
people, but they're still whitepeople.
I would never say gingers areblack.
That's, that's people, butthey're still white people.
I would never say gingers areblack.
That's, that's an insane thingto say, especially when there
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are black people who are gingerand people question their
blackness, especially whenthere's biracial people.
And when I'm saying biracial, Imean like people who are mixed
with black, because you can bebiracial and not be black, right
, but there are biracial blackpeople who people will say they
are not black.
Like we don't have enoughcommunity amongst actual black
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people for us to now beextending blackness to people
who just have ginger hair.
Especially we just had KamalaHarris, who people were
questioning if she was black.
You see what I'm saying?
Like there are genuine blackpeople, because I've said this
before and I'll say it again andpeople got mad at me last time
and I don't give a fuck, I'mgoing to continue to say it If
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you are a biracial person mixedwith black, you are a black
person.
I don't give a fuck.
They're black people.
But people will question theirblackness, but then turn around
and tell a white person withginger hair that they're black.
Wrap this shit, the fuck up now.
And I'm not trying to like ruinthe fun or be a party pooper,
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but at the same time, like Iabsolutely have to, because what
are we?
What are we talking about?
Like again, I would say thatpeople who are ginger are the
black people of white peoplebecause, like for some reason,
ginger people are bullied somuch by other white people
because of their ginger hair,but that does not equate to the
struggles of black people or thethings that black people face
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at the hands of white people.
I just fear we're losing theplot and I'm like what the fuck
is happening?
Like does mercury have hermicro braids in right now?
Like what is going on?
I feel like I'm in a feverdream, like it's just we.
We have to wrap all this shitup immediately.
We have to wrap this shit upbecause soon as they start to
take it too far, and now someonewho's ginger thinks that they
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can say the n-word what, whatyou gonna do, what you feeling
like?
You see what I'm saying becauseI'm already seeing them take it
too far.
I've already seen videos of thembeing like oh, I'm ginger and
my credit score just plummeted.
Or okay, um, I'm ginger, all ofa sudden, I'm black.
Now I have to go get milk andnot come back home.
You see what I'm saying?
Like now they're alreadystarting to push the negative
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stereotypes and it's just likeI'm so tired of seeing all of
these negative stereotypes push.
Like at some point, when do westart to realize like some of us
in the community are alsohelping to push these negative
stereotypes?
We're like co-signing them.
Like when do we, when do wefinally start to like want
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better for ourselves too?
And I I do feel like themajority of the community does
want better, but like theminority that is pushing this is
very loud and all it takes is alittle bit, especially in a
situation like this, with whitesupremacy and negative
stereotypes.
All it takes is a little bitand it's still getting boosted.
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That's that's what's making myblood boil is that people in the
black community are enablingand aiding their own demise and
like they don't see it, likethey don't realize exactly what
they're doing, and it's like the, the little minority that's
doing it.
You're making it harder for allof us, for all of us, and it's
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pissing me off like we have tolock in.
I'm begging you, bitches, tolock the fuck in.
I need to take a breath, I needto like go and like meditate or
something.
So, as we wrap up this episode,please, I'm just begging y'all,
lock the fuck in, realize thatwhat you're doing is hurting you
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.
Like you might see it as justfun and jokes and games or
whatever, but like it's deeperand more harmful than you might
understand, like you're activelyenabling and helping your own
oppression.
That's the only way I can put itlike that, because that's
that's the only way I can put itlike that, because that's
that's genuinely what we'redoing.
Let's be for real.
So, moral of the story turn offZeus, turn off PBS kids.
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Lock the fuck in and stop beingso fucking accepting.
I know that sounds terriblelike I shouldn't say don't be
accepting, but also like it'strue.
Sometimes we're way tooaccepting, we're way too nice
and we need to.
We can, it's okay to gatekeep alittle bit, you know, like we
can, we can lock in a little bit.
We don't have to be so acceptingto everyone, especially people
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who have a history of not beingaccepting to us and I'm not
saying gingers, I'm saying whitepeople as a whole, like they
have not done enough work intheir community or individually
for us to be as inviting as weare.
Like not everyone needs to cometo the cookout, please.
I'm begging y'all actually.
Actually, until further notice,the cookout has been canceled.
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No, no more fucking cookouts.
If you're saying, oh, they'reinvited to the cookout, you are
now not invited to the cookout.
The cookout has been fuckingcanceled.
You can't come by.
You can't get a plate.
Don't say you can bring chairs,we don't want your soda
cookout's been canceledindefinitely until further
notice, because we need to closeshop, rework some stuff and
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then maybe we can reopen.
Right now, we just need to, weneed to lock in and we need to
focus on ourselves.
I think that's what more peopleshould do, do we just as
communities and as individuals?
Let's just focus on ourselves.
Too much is going on.
Too much is going on.
Thank you, guys for tuning intotoday's episode.
I need to go do like abreathing exercise or something,
because my anxiety and my angeris like at an all-time high
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right now.
So let's all spend some timeoffline, touch some grass, maybe
read a book or something, turnon pbs kids?
I don't know.
I just we all.
We need to lock in.
We really need to lock in.
Thank you guys for tuning in totoday's episode.
I hope everyone is having agood day, except for that orange
chick lady, and I will see youguys in the next episode.
Peace and love.
Talk to you later.
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Is this thing on?
Hello hello?
Uh oh, another yapper with amic.
Hello everyone and welcome backto the Napkin Inbetween podcast
.
I am your host, Daijné Jones.
I hope everyone is having agood day, except for that orange
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drink lady.
I also hope people have beenspending more time outside
because the weather, at least inNew York.
Hopefully you guys areexperiencing this wherever you
are, but the weather has been somuch nicer recently and I'm so
fucking excited.
Summer is right around thecorner and I want to be outside
more than anything.
These past couple of days havejust been so sunny and so nice
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and I feel like right now,because I'm bald or don't have
much hair, I feel like I'mfeeling the sun more than ever
right now and I just feel likeme and the sun are like this
right now For the audiolisteners, my fingers are
interlinked, like we're lockedin for real.
Right now, I feel like I'mfeeling everything so much more
right now, like physically,because of the fact that I don't
have any hair, don't have verymuch hair, and one of my
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favorite feelings so far hasjust been the sun on my scalp,
like it's just been such a greatfeeling and this has been the
peak of my week is just feelingthe sun on my head.
I don't know how to explain it.
I just feel like we're lockedin real bad, and I feel like I
shaved my head at the perfecttime because the weather is
getting nicer and I just feellike I'm feeling everything more
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deeply like even like myemotions too, and like
physically, like I'm feeling thesun deeper and I don't know.
It's just been like a reallylife-changing thing and I'm
going on.
I think week three, week, I'm alittle bit.
It's been a little over twoweeks since I shaved my head and
um, showers, oh my god.
The showers are immaculate, thefeeling of the warm water, the
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steam, like I don't knoweverything.
I'm just feeling everything somuch deeper and it's been so
nice.
the only issue that I had was,like when I was fully bald, like
the first couple of days aftershaving my head, my sheets and
my bonnet were the mostuncomfortable feeling it felt
like I could feel every fabricof my sheets and my bonnet just
like seeping into my prefrontalcortex, like literally, it was
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just the most uncomfortablething but thankfully that only
lasted the first couple of days,and my sheets and bonnet feel
fine now but, that was the peakof my week and also because the
weather is getting nicer, I gota pedicure, which is a form of
self care for me.
I love getting pedicures.
I get pedicures year round.
It had been a couple of monthssince I had gotten one, though
for whatever reason, I justdon't know I just didn't go.
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So it was technically my firstpedicure of the year, and I've
been going to the same pedicureplace for a while now.
So when I walked in, they werelike where have you been?
Like we haven't seen you inmonths.
And I'm like I know, I just Idon't know, I just didn't
schedule one, but they're sofunny because I sat down in the
chair and they're like whatcolor?
And I'm like, girl, you knowwhat color?
like I know you sensed me comingand you went to hide the white.
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Go back to wherever you hid itand bring the white here.
I don't know why I always getwhite on my on my toes for my
pedicures, but it's just white,is just the best color to get on
your toes.
I can't explain it and itdoesn't need to be explained.
The girls that get it get it.
But I sat down, I'm getting mypedicure and because it had been
a couple months, my feet werelooking like it had been a
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couple months.
So they pulled out the fuckingcheese grater and I I love the
cheese grater because it's like,yes, I get all that dry,
cracked skin off of my feet, butmy feet are so fucking ticklish
so I'm sitting there and tryingnot to like pull my foot back.
It's like my involuntaryreaction is to like pull my foot
back because it's like ticklingand my least favorite thing is
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being tickled, which sucks,because I'm very, very ticklish,
but she's like she's grating myfeet.
I'm trying not to pull my footback and also, out of nowhere, I
like had to pee, so I'm like ohmy god, like I'm about to pee
on myself because my fuckingfeet are being tickled.
Anyway, love getting a pedicure, so that was definitely the
peak of my week as well, justgetting a pedicure, and it's
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just all a reminder to me thatit's getting nicer outside and
summer is coming and I am goingto be outside.
I have so many things plannedfor the summer, things that I
want to plan for the summer, soI'm just really, really excited
for summer so that's definitelybeen the peak of my week.
As always, I want to hear thepeak of your week, something
that helped you smile, kept yougrounded, just something that
you found joy in in the chaos ofthis world.
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Speaking of summer, actually Ihad an entire thing planned for
today that I was going to talkabout, um, but I saw a video
this morning that pissed meclean the fuck off, like I was
already pissed off going intowatching the video just because
of the subject of the video, butthen I watched the video and I
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was like I didn't realize thatthis situation could piss me off
even more, but somehow itfucking did so this morning I
woke up in a great mood.
I slept really well.
Last night I was having somebreakfast chilling with my dog
and as I'm eating breakfast I'mreading the morning paper.
Ie scrolling on TikTok and Ihappen to scroll past this video
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.
I'm gonna put a clip in here nowdo y'all think Zeus gonna get
shut down because of what Summersaid?
So they might be cancelingSummer for good now with this
little clip with a baddie littlething I've been seeing.
So Summer was telling somebodythat they face look like Emmett
Till.
Allegedly Emmett Till is a SAvictim.
The girl was only 14.
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I I'm so pissed off Like I don'teven have fucking words.
I am so pissed off.
There is so much about thiswhole situation that is just
irking my fucking soul and I hadan entire thing to talk about
today.
I can't focus on anything rightnow because I have to talk
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about this, because I am pissedthe fuck off.
So, first and foremost, I don'twatch anything on Zeus, much
less fucking baddies, okay.
So from what I can gather, fromwhat I've seen online, there's
someone on baddies.
Her name is Summer and I guessshe got into an altercation with
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someone else on the show like aphysical altercation.
And after the physicalaltercation, she was like oh,
like, your face looks likeEmmett Till.
Immediately I'm pissed off.
Right, because Mammie Till didnot have an open casket funeral
to show the atrocities thathappened to her son.
For y'all to use that shit as afucking dig at somebody else.
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Let's start there.
How fucking disrespectful is itfor you to use the mutilation
of a child who was lied on andlynched?
You're using that as a dig atsomeone else.
Ronald Reagan is tap dancing inhis fucking grave right now.
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First let me start at the headof it all, which is Zeus Network
.
I have never watched a singlething on Zeus Network, much less
baddies, because I'm so tiredof pushing of these negative
stereotypes on black women.
Is there nothing else thaty'all see black women as, other
than fucking people who fighteach other?
Like I just I can't get behindzeus network.
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I can't get behind anythingthat's on there, especially
baddies.
So that's number one thatpissed me off.
I need zeus network to be off,cancel it, cut the cable, cut
the cameras.
Like stop supporting zeusnetwork.
All it's doing is pushing thesenegative stereotypes onto black
women.
There are other ways to showblack women right.
Black women live in luxury,black women are the most
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educated group of people inamerica.
Like.
We have to stop supportingthese networks and these shows
that literally just show us asthese negative stereotypes that
have been pushed onto us.
So that's number one.
Number two again using EmmettTill as a dig at someone else is
fucking, crazy, crazy, wicked,fucking work.
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But then for someone to getonline and not even know who
Emmett Till is talking aboutsome he's an SA victim, I just
don't have words.
Like this shit.
I'm so fucking pissed off and Ithink it's pissing me off so
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much because Emmett Till and hismurder because of the lies of a
white woman.
I feel like that, thinking backto high school and like
learning American history, Ifeel like that's the only thing
that they taught in history thatthey didn't try to whitewash.
You know what I mean?
Because so much of Americanhistory is whitewashed or they
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leave out so much of it thatit's like this is not true
history, like, for example, theytalk about how Abraham Lincoln
freed the slaves.
Abraham Lincoln didn't free shit.
Okay, first of all, AbrahamLincoln was a disgusting,
fucking racist.
Okay, the only reason that hewanted to "free the slaves, I
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say in quotes, is because he didnot believe in race mixing.
He viewed slavery as racemixing.
He wanted to free the slavesand then he suggested, or wanted
, black people to go somewhereelse.
He did not want them in America.
That was one of his mainpremises or main goals of
freeing the slaves.
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And for the audio listeners,you can't see, but I'm saying
this in quotes because he didn'tfree shit.
Okay, his other goal of freeingthe slaves was to weaken the
South.
Of freeing the slaves was toweaken the South.
Right, it was a political ploy.
He wanted number one, he wantedtheir economy to be weakened.
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And number two, he wanted tofree the slaves, for them to
come and then join the UnionArmy against the South.
It was, it was all for hisbenefit.
It wasn't just to like.
He wasn't like this, saint ortrying to help black people, or
he viewed black people, as youknow, equal to white people.
He was an extreme whitesupremacist.
He thought that white peoplewere superior to black people
and he wanted black people goneor he wanted them fighting in
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the union army against thestates.
That succeeded.
Also, again, because it was apolitical ploy.
When he "freed the slaves itwas only in states that had
seceded.
So again, it was just apolitical ploy to weaken the
south or to weaken theconfederacy.
I should say.
They talk about the emancipationproclamation and the 13th
amendment and how it "freed theslaves, but they leave out the
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part where there's that littleloophole where you can't make
someone work against their willunless they're paying for a
punishment of a crime, and howthat was immediately exploited.
And after the slaves were freed, black men were arrested for
petty things like loitering andthen they were put right back on
the plantations.
Like they don't teach that inschool.
They never taught me that in inmy high school I don't know if
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it was just my high school ormost high schools, but I feel
like people don't know if it wasjust my high school or most
high schools, but I feel likepeople don't know that
information.
They don't know that AbrahamLincoln was a disgusting racist
and he didn't "free the slavesbecause he just loved black
people.
Also another example of them nottelling true history George
Washington, I always heard inschool.
Oh, he had wooden teeth.
His teeth were slave teeth.
Like his, his teeth were fromslaves.
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You know what I mean.
So it's like looking back onhigh school and the things that
I learned in high school like alot of the history is either
whitewashed, or it's not thefull story, or it's twisted in a
way that makes people who arereally bad people seem like good
people when they're actuallynot.
And.
I feel like the only time that Ireally got an accurate history
lesson is the story of EmmettTill and what happened to him.
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And so for people to be usingEmmett Till as a dig or to be
like talking about it and noteven know who Emmett Till is,
that like truly makes my bloodboil, because y'all so tuned
into baddies, watching baddies,you all the tea, all this
bullshit, but you don't know whoEmmett Till is.
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You don't know that he wasbrutally beaten and lynched and
his body was thrown into theTallahatchie River because a
white woman said that hewhistled at her, grabbed her,
which she then recanted yearslater.
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You don't know that anall-white jury deliberated for
only 67 minutes to find thesemen not guilty, only for them to
turn around and, because ofdouble jeopardy, be able to
admit to the murder and sayexactly what they did and sold
the story for four thousanddollars to look magazine, which
in today's equivalency would bearound $46,000.
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Like youdon't know any of this.
You don't know that his motherdecided to have an open casket
funeral so that the world couldsee what they had done to her
son, that he was inrecognizable,that his face was bloated and
his body was mutilated?
Like I don't know.
I don't know.
It just really like makes myblood boil because it's like how
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do you not know?
Like did your schools not teachyou this?
And at this point, like I can'tjust blame the schools and yeah
, fuck, george Bush, because youbitches should have been left
behind, but it's like you atsome point have to educate
yourself.
We are in 2025.
We have computers that we carryaround with us every fucking
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day, that y'all use to tune intofucking baddies and all this
tea, but you don't know thestory of Emmett Till.
You don't?
Like I want to scream right now.
I'm taking everything in me notto scream because I'd probably
break the sound barrier andburst somebody's eardrums, but
like I I'm just so flabbergasted, I don't know, I don't have
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fucking words and it's just likeit's so frustrating and it's so
disheartening because shit likethis still happens today.
Like black people are underattack and have been under
attack in this country sincethey forced us to come here like
lynching still happened today,police brutality still happens
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today.
Like we have to fight for ourlives to understand our history
and to understand how it's stillaffecting us today, because
again, they whitewash anddownplay so much shit.
I try to show grace, especiallyto black women, but like fuck,
like I can't show grace in thesituation.
Y'all have got to lock the fuckin.
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Lock the fuck in.
Like what is going on, what ishappening?
I don't know who to blame, butI need someone to pay for these
crimes.
Like is it George Bush?
Is it social media?
Is it high schools and notteaching actual history?
Like is it just y'all notcaring about history and how it
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still affects your lives today?
It's a mix of all of thesethings.
I think probably, but like fuck, can we please get it together?
Like I can't.
This is just not real.
Like this is not real.
There are very few instanceswhere I feel like I've ever been
at a loss for words, but thisis definitely one of them.
Like I don't know what else tosay other than lock the fuck in,
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turn off baddies and turn onPBS Kids, because y'all need so
many fucking history lessons.
It's not fucking, it's just notreal.
I need to see zeus networkcanceled by noon yesterday and
everyone who's had anything todo with it.
Fuck, every single person whohas anything to do with zeus
network.
I'm so tired of these negativestereotypes.
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I'm so tired of just like this.
It's just bullshit.
Like you're just rotting yourbrain watching this shit.
Black women are so much morethan that.
Like it gets to a point.
Are y'all not tired of seeingthis shit over and over and over
?
Brains are being rotted as wespeak, like I I'm gonna crash
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the fuck out.
I swear to god, fuck all ofthis shit.
Honestly, fuck zeus, fucksummer, fuck natalie nunn, fuck
all those bitches, fuck anyonewho does not understand or know
history.
Like, fuck all of it.
This is so fucking stupid.
Like I hate you bitches.
I really fucking do.
I fear that my people willnever be free and it it truly
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makes me sick to my stomach.
And also Another thing that'spissing me off this week this
whole trend about gingers beingblack.
Wrap that shit up.
Wrap this shit up immediately.
So this woman made a video andshe was saying like gingers are
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black.
Like she was like, if you see awhite man with ginger hair,
that's a black man, if you see awhite woman with ginger hair,
that's a black woman.
And I thought she was joking atfirst.
Not that that's anything thatyou should even be joking about.
Let's start there.
I don't think that's's a funnyjoke.
But then she made a follow-upvideo and was like really trying
to explain.
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Like she was dead ass, like shethinks if you have ginger hair
then you're black and it's justtoo far, it's just too much.
You know what I mean.
Like I would say that gingersare the black people of white
people, but they're still whitepeople.
I would never say gingers areblack.
That's, that's people, butthey're still white people.
I would never say gingers areblack.
That's, that's an insane thingto say, especially when there
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are black people who are gingerand people question their
blackness, especially whenthere's biracial people.
And when I'm saying biracial, Imean like people who are mixed
with black, because you can bebiracial and not be black, right
, but there are biracial blackpeople who people will say they
are not black.
Like we don't have enoughcommunity amongst actual black
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people for us to now beextending blackness to people
who just have ginger hair.
Especially we just had KamalaHarris, who people were
questioning if she was black.
You see what I'm saying?
Like there are genuine blackpeople, because I've said this
before and I'll say it again andpeople got mad at me last time
and I don't give a fuck, I'mgoing to continue to say it If
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you are a biracial person mixedwith black, you are a black
person.
I don't give a fuck.
They're black people.
But people will question theirblackness, but then turn around
and tell a white person withginger hair that they're black.
Wrap this shit, the fuck up now.
And I'm not trying to like ruinthe fun or be a party pooper,
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but at the same time, like Iabsolutely have to, because what
are we?
What are we talking about?
Like again, I would say thatpeople who are ginger are the
black people of white peoplebecause, like for some reason,
ginger people are bullied somuch by other white people
because of their ginger hair,but that does not equate to the
struggles of black people or thethings that black people face
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at the hands of white people.
I just fear we're losing theplot and I'm like what the fuck
is happening?
Like does mercury have hermicro braids in right now?
Like what is going on?
I feel like I'm in a feverdream, like it's just we.
We have to wrap all this shitup immediately.
We have to wrap this shit upbecause soon as they start to
take it too far, and now someonewho's ginger thinks that they
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can say the n-word what, whatyou gonna do, what you feeling
like?
You see what I'm saying becauseI'm already seeing them take it
too far.
I've already seen videos of thembeing like oh, I'm ginger and
my credit score just plummeted.
Or okay, um, I'm ginger, all ofa sudden, I'm black.
Now I have to go get milk andnot come back home.
You see what I'm saying?
Like now they're alreadystarting to push the negative
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stereotypes and it's just likeI'm so tired of seeing all of
these negative stereotypes push.
Like at some point, when do westart to realize like some of us
in the community are alsohelping to push these negative
stereotypes?
We're like co-signing them.
Like when do we, when do wefinally start to like want
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better for ourselves too?
And I I do feel like themajority of the community does
want better, but like theminority that is pushing this is
very loud and all it takes is alittle bit, especially in a
situation like this, with whitesupremacy and negative
stereotypes.
All it takes is a little bitand it's still getting boosted.
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That's that's what's making myblood boil is that people in the
black community are enablingand aiding their own demise and
like they don't see it, likethey don't realize exactly what
they're doing, and it's like the, the little minority that's
doing it.
You're making it harder for allof us, for all of us, and it's
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pissing me off like we have tolock in.
I'm begging you, bitches, tolock the fuck in.
I need to take a breath, I needto like go and like meditate or
something.
So, as we wrap up this episode,please, I'm just begging y'all,
lock the fuck in, realize thatwhat you're doing is hurting you
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.
Like you might see it as justfun and jokes and games or
whatever, but like it's deeperand more harmful than you might
understand, like you're activelyenabling and helping your own
oppression.
That's the only way I can put itlike that, because that's
that's the only way I can put itlike that, because that's
that's genuinely what we'redoing.
Let's be for real.
So, moral of the story turn offZeus, turn off PBS kids.
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Lock the fuck in and stop beingso fucking accepting.
I know that sounds terriblelike I shouldn't say don't be
accepting, but also like it'strue.
Sometimes we're way tooaccepting, we're way too nice
and we need to.
We can, it's okay to gatekeep alittle bit, you know, like we
can, we can lock in a little bit.
We don't have to be so acceptingto everyone, especially people
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who have a history of not beingaccepting to us and I'm not
saying gingers, I'm saying whitepeople as a whole, like they
have not done enough work intheir community or individually
for us to be as inviting as weare.
Like not everyone needs to cometo the cookout, please.
I'm begging y'all actually.
Actually, until further notice,the cookout has been canceled.
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No, no more fucking cookouts.
If you're saying, oh, they'reinvited to the cookout, you are
now not invited to the cookout.
The cookout has been fuckingcanceled.
You can't come by.
You can't get a plate.
Don't say you can bring chairs,we don't want your soda
cookout's been canceledindefinitely until further
notice, because we need to closeshop, rework some stuff and
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then maybe we can reopen.
Right now, we just need to, weneed to lock in and we need to
focus on ourselves.
I think that's what more peopleshould do, do we just as
communities and as individuals?
Let's just focus on ourselves.
Too much is going on.
Too much is going on.
Thank you, guys for tuning intotoday's episode.
I need to go do like abreathing exercise or something,
because my anxiety and my angeris like at an all-time high
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right now.
So let's all spend some timeoffline, touch some grass, maybe
read a book or something, turnon pbs kids?
I don't know.
I just we all.
We need to lock in.
We really need to lock in.
Thank you guys for tuning in totoday's episode.
I hope everyone is having agood day, except for that orange
chick lady, and I will see youguys in the next episode.
Peace and love.
Talk to you later.
The Napkin In Between, hostedby Daijné Jones, produced by
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Daijné Jones, post-production byDaijné Jones, music by Sam
Champagne, and graphics by IsmaVidal .
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