August 24, 2025 • 33 mins
Finding your perfect place in the world feels like coming home to yourself. In this powerful episode, I open by sharing my journey through small Pennsylvania towns to Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and finally New York City – where I've discovered that perfect balance of quiet neighborhood living with big-city opportunities just a subway ride away.
This sense of place becomes a metaphor for something much bigger as I dive into the disturbing situation unfolding in Texas. State Representative Nicole Collier was recently held hostage in the Texas Capitol building for refusing to participate in voter suppression tactics. While other Democrats signed "permission slips" allowing them to leave with police escorts, Collier stood firm, sleeping on the Capitol floor for two nights – a lone Black woman refusing to enable a system where five Black votes would equal one white vote.
The contrast is stark: finding my place in New York allows me freedom and joy, while Collier fights for basic democratic rights. This raises urgent questions about who's standing up while democracy crumbles. Why are Republicans allowed to break rules while Democrats try to follow them? Where are the white allies using their privilege to reach those who won't listen to Black voices?
My frustration reaches a crescendo when examining how Trump supporters vote against their own interests, seemingly allowing racism and misogyny to overcome common sense. I challenge us all to consider who's really fighting for democracy – and who needs to step up.
Join me for this raw, unfiltered conversation about finding your place – both in a city that feels like home and in a democracy that increasingly feels like it's slipping away. What will you do to stand up before it's too late?
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Daijné (00:01):
Is this thing on?
Hello, hello, uh-oh, anotheryapper with a mic.
Hello everyone, and welcomeback to the Napkin In Between
podcast.
I am your host, Daijné Jones.
I hope everyone's been having agood week, except for that
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orange drink lady, of course.
I am really excited right nowbecause so, oh, I don't know,
I'm just like, oh, I'moverwhelmed, I'm overstimulated.
I'm so sorry if I'm like allover the place today, because
I'm going to a sacred eventtoday and I'm really fucking
excited.
Oh, I'm really excited.
Number one that horse lady juststay taking my fucking money.
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But, number two, I've beenusing sacred for since april, so
four months now.
I started using it after I bigchopped my hair back in april
and my hair has never respondedas positively to a product line
as it has been responding tosacred.
Like my hair is the healthiestit's ever been.
It's more full, it's thicker,like overall, just like way
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healthier than it's ever been.
And so, number one, I'm excitedfor, you know, this product
drop.
And I feel like that cowgirllady know what she's doing,
because I like I'm waiting likea couple more months until my
hair is a little bit longer, butI want to get braids and the
products that are coming outright now are for, like, braids
and wigs and protective styles,and so I'm like the time is
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crazy, like girl, do you know me?
Have you been watching myjourney?
Wait a minute, if I I'm beingdelusional, I know anyway.
But I'm being delusional, Iknow Anyway.
But I'm excited to be able tobe one of the first people to
you know be able to get theproduct and test it out, like
I'm going to have it.
Like obviously I don't haveenough hair for braids right now
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, or maybe I do Y'all thinksomebody might be able to grip
this.
I'm feeling very delusional thismorning, obviously, um, but I'm
just excited to have thisopportunity and it makes me very
, very excited and I feel verylucky to be in New York City.
Like I feel like I've movedaround a bit.
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Um, like I grew up in a smalltown in Pennsylvania and then
when I went to undergrad, I wentto a small town in Pennsylvania
and then, when I went toundergrad, I went to a small
town in Pennsylvania again forcollege.
I went to Juniata College,which was in a small town in
Pennsylvania.
Still kicking myself in the assevery time I think about it
Because, like I didn't know whatHBCUs were back when I was
looking for a college.
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Had I known I would have gone toan HBCU.
That is, like my biggest regretin life and in college in
general is like not go.
Well, my biggest regret isgoing to college regardless.
Like I, I don't really need adegree for the things that I
want to do, being as though,like you know, I do constant
creation and I'm a nanny like ithelps with nannying.
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For sure, people see my degrees, like the families I nanny for
see my degrees and they lovethat I have a degree.
But like, do I technically needit to nanny?
No, they mainly look forexperience.
You know what I mean.
So my first regret is going tocollege regardless.
But like the fact that I didn'tgo to an HBCU, like, uh,
kicking myself in the ass everyday for that, and also to my
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high school counselors like abig fuck you also for not
telling me that hbcus are even athing, like hello, like I feel
like everyone, if you're aguidance school counselor and
you have black students who youknow you're the counselor of,
you should tell them about hbcus, because we just don't know
about them, we don't even knowthat they're a thing.
And so then, like, like Ididn't even have that as an
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option to explore, I feel likethat's bullshit.
I feel like somebody shouldhave to pay for my student loan
debt because nobody told me that.
Anyway, my biggest regret isgoing to college at all, but the
fact that I didn't go to anHBCU like I'm kicking myself in
the ass for that so went to thatwas a crazy tangent.
Went to a college in a smalltown in Pennsylvania and then
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after that, I went to theUniversity of Pittsburgh for my
master's.
Mind you, I'm moving around allthese places and I'm like none
of these places really fit myvibe.
Like I'm the type of person who, like I like to go, I like to
have fun, I like to, you know,experience life, but I also need
space to like be calm and bequiet and be by myself.
So I feel like that's what Iwas looking for in all of these
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places that I moved to.
And so then I moved toPittsburgh, which was a bigger
city, it was more to do, but itwas still very just, not my vibe
.
And then, after I graduated fromcollege, I stayed in Pittsburgh
for a little bit and then Imoved to Atlanta because my mom
lives there, my nephews, and soI was like I'll be closer to
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family, atlanta, love the cityto visit, to live, just not not
my, not my place, right?
So then I was like fuck, okay.
So like what do I do?
So then I was like you knowwhat?
I was visiting New York City alot.
I had friends who lived hereand so I was always visiting
them.
So I was like I might as welljust move to New York City, like
at this point I'm visiting somuch it makes sense to move
there.
So then I moved to New YorkCity and I have just like this
is this is my city.
I absolutely love it here.
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I love the people, I love howthere's just so many different
cultures and just so manydifferent people, like it is
truly, truly, the most amazingcity that I've ever lived in and
I just feel so comfortable here.
And I feel like a lot of timewhen people think of New York
City, they think of downtown,right, like the busy bumping
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Times Square and there's peopleeverywhere.
It's always buzzing, whatever.
And the part of New York Citythat I live in it kind of smells
like a.
It kind of smells what am Isaying?
It kind of feels like a smalltown because I live more uptown,
right.
So like the place that I livein, or like the part of the city
that I live in, it's very quiet.
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There's like family-ownedbusinesses, there's like small
Coffee shops and like just itfeels Kind of like a small town.
Like when I walk outsidethere's people, of course, but
it's not like I'm running intopeople and it's like
ridiculously crazy.
But at the same time I canstill get to downtown New York
in like 30-45 minutes and bearound like Times Square, I can
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go to a Broadway show, I can youexperience what people think of
when they think of New YorkCity.
And so I feel very gratefulbecause, number one, I feel like
I've found my place.
Like I feel like that's soimportant for people is to like
not only find people around youwho feel like home, but like the
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city that you live in or theplace that you live in.
Also, you have to like matchthat vibe.
You know what I mean.
And so I feel like I've foundthat with New York City and it
also gives me the opportunity todo last minute things like this
sacred event, because when theevent was posted on, I think it
was Wednesday or Thursday thatthere would be the sacred event.
In the posting it said like theevent is on Saturday and the
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location and time will be umposted on Friday, my day before
the event, mind you.
And so the fact that I live inNew York City like obviously for
people who may have wanted togo to the event but don't live
in the city, having the detailsof the event come out literally
the day before and not even likea full day before, because I
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was checking all day yesterdaylike when is this event?
I need, I need the time, righttime didn't go up until like 10
30 last night and I was like Iwas trying to like be like okay,
well, she's in LA, so maybeshe's operating on LA time for
the you know, posting of thetime, because technically that
would be like 7 30 but the eventis in New York.
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So, cowgirl, lady, like whywould you wait until like
literally like 12 hours before,because the event is 11 to 7
today, waited 12 hours before todrop the event like girl, what
if?
What if I wasn't in New Yorkorkcity and I wanted to go like
you?
Unless you have it like that,unless you big ball around here.
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You can't, you can't operatelike that.
But the fact that I live hereand literally the event is like
30 to 45 minutes away from mevia public transportation, like
I'm able to go.
And I love that about the citybecause it is like a major city,
right.
So it's like things like thatdo happen, like last minute
events like this come up.
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So it's nice that I'm like herein the city so that if I want
to go to something like that andit's like not even things like
this, but like if I wanted tolast minute go to a Broadway
show, I can go.
If I wanted to just go to TimesSquare, like whatever, I can go
to that and then come back tomy little quiet neighborhood
uptown and also experience likesmall town I say in quotes
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because, like I'm in New YorkCity, so it's not.
I guess it's not really a smalltown Obviously it's still
Manhattan, but it feels like asmall town because it's not as
busy, it's very quiet and it'svery peaceful.
So I feel like I need bothsides to the coin, like I need
to be able to do things if andwhen I want to do them, but I
also need, like my quiet time,when I need that as well.
So saying all that to say thisis the peak of my week.
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It's just feeling like I reallyjust found the place that like
really fits my vibe and I can dothose things and I can go to
events like this.
Like again, I've been usingsacred for four months now and
it's my hair has responded sopositively to it and the fact
that I it will be hopefully in acouple months getting braids
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again, because I I miss beingable to do stuff with my hair.
Like I love the loadmaintenance of like I literally
get up and I pick out my little,my teeny, weeny afro and I go.
I love that.
But I also want to be able tolike get braids and I mean I
guess I could have like donelike a wig, but like also it's
summer.
Nobody's trying to wear a wigin the summer.
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Like it feels like a fuckinghelmet, like it's so hot.
Especially this summer in NewYork was brutal.
We had several heat waves.
It was ridiculous and I didn'thave enough hair to get braids.
I'm not allowed to get abraided wig Again.
Wigs feel like helmets and noshade.
I've never seen a good braidedwig.
No shade, no shade, no shade.
But I'm just so excited.
In a couple of months I'll beable to, hopefully, as long as
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my hair keeps going the way ithas.
I feel like if I found someonewho tried hard enough, they
could probably grip my hairright now, but I don't know that
that would be the healthiestthing.
It would be a really tight gripand I'm not like again, my hair
is as healthy as it's ever beenright now, so I'm not trying to
do anything to damage it, butI'm just so excited to go to
this event.
If that cargo lady is there, yoI'm delusional, I'm being very
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delusional, but maybe I'm not.
Maybe she might show up.
It would be her first outing orfirst appearance since the tour
ended.
So I don't know.
Maybe that cowgirl lady will bethere.
We'll see, we'll see.
But yeah, that has been the peakof my week is just like feeling
like like this event and itbeing like minute I say in
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quotes being that like thelocation and time were given so
last minute, like it justsolidifies for me that it's like
, oh, I just love being here,like I love that.
I'm just like like low-key Iwas.
It was still kind of stressful,like trying to figure out, like
, where it was, or like waitingfor the location to be dropped,
but I knew, like, regardless ofwhere it was, like I could make
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it work.
You know what I mean, like, andI just that's something that I
just love about this city.
It's like people are hereliterally just making it work
and and this city has just so,so much opportunity for that,
and I feel like especially mewanting to be like a content
creator, and you know there's somuch here for that as well.
So, yeah, I just love it hereand I love, I love Beyonce and I
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love black women.
Like that lady knows what she'sdoing, she knows that she could
have revealed the location intime at two hours before it
started, and we were still gonnashow up Like, oh, that's the
power of a black woman.
Like, oh, I love, I love being ablack woman, and I love I don't
know.
I just I'm just feeling verygrateful right now.
I'm grateful for this city, I'mgrateful for being able to go
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to this event, I'm grateful forblack women.
Like, literally, I would nottrade being a black woman for
anything else, even though youknow, black women are so
disrespected and sounderprotected, like I truly
would not trade being a blackwoman for anything else.
Because here's the thing if Iwasn't a black woman, I'd be a
hitting ass bitch too.
I really would.
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I would be jealous and envioustoo, because it's like, damn,
why her and not me?
And I feel like, oh, that mightsound, um, what's what I'm
looking for?
Uh, narcissistic, but it's notnarcissistic, because if it was
narcissistic, I wouldn't be ableto say it's narcissistic.
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Um, black women just really arethe blueprint, and you know
what I'm I get sick and tired ofholding it in.
Isn't that what Halle Baileysaid?
Like, yeah, I get it, I, I toowould be very envious and I
would stare and I would hate ifI was not a black woman.
So, I get it for everyone whofeels that way hating from
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outside of the club.
I too would be hating fromoutside of the club, but
thankfully I got in.
So, uh, I don't know.
I just love being a black womanand I truly would not want to
be anything else.
So that has been the peak of myweek being in the city, being
able to go to last minute eventslike this and being a black
woman.
I just love black women frominfinity to infinity.
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So, uh, yeah, that's been thepeak of my week.
Please remember the peak ofyour week, something that made
you smile, kept you grounded,kept you sane in the chaos of
the world, speaking of blackwomen being the most
underprotected and disrespectedpeople in america.
So, going into what we're goingto talk about today, we need to
talk about nicole collier andthem literally holding her
hostage in the texas capital.
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So, if you're unfamiliar withwhat I'm talking about, it
started earlier this month ormaybe late last month Too.
The fuck, much is going on atall times, I like it's like damn
near impossible to keep up.
But Republicans in Texas wantedto redraw the congressional
maps to essentially favor themin the 2026 midterm election, so
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that they would keep control ofthe house.
Democrats in the state leftbecause they were supposed to
vote on these new maps and thenew outlining of the districts,
and so Democrats left the statein order to stall the voting
process, so that they couldn'tredraw these maps.
Once they came back, they metback at the Capitol and all the
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Democrats were essentially givenpermission slips in order to
leave the Capitol.
They had to be escorted bypolice and, you know,
essentially be under basically awatchdog a watch pig, if you
will to make sure that theydidn't leave the state, so that
the vote would no longer bestalled and that they could
approve the redrawn districts.
All the Democrats, with theexception of Nicole, signed this
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permission slip, essentially toleave the Capitol with their
guard pig.
Nicole Collier refused to signit, and so they kept her in the
Capitol and would not allow herto leave unless she signed this
permission slip to have thisguard pig over her to make sure
she didn't leave the state sothat they could vote about the
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new maps.
She spent, I believe it was,two nights in the capitol
sleeping on the capitol floor.
She had her bonnet, her sleepmask and, I think, maybe an air
mattress or something on theCapitol floor in Texas and was
not allowed to leave because sherefused to have this guard pig.
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And the only reason that theyallowed her to leave is because
they eventually were able topass these new maps without
needing her vote, and so she was.
I'm I'm trying to find it,because like what the fuck are
we?
What are we talking aboutgenuinely?
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What are we talking about?
First of all, a black womanbeing held hostage and not
allowed to leave because shewouldn't abide by their
ridiculous fucking permissionslips is fucking crazy in in
fucking sane because she refusedto, you know, play into their
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game and trying to redraw thesedistricts, which, mind you, the
redrawing of these districts.
Number one, it makes it so thatrepublicans would be in favor
of, you know, in the upcomingmidterm elections in 2026.
But also, it's essentially, andnot even essentially, it is
voter suppression, because now,with these new drawn districts,
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it takes three Hispanic people'svote to equal one white
person's vote and five blackpeople's vote to equal one white
person's vote.
We are quite literally goingback in time.
Three-fifths ring a bell toanybody like what the fuck are
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we talking about?
We're, we're literally goingback into time.
And because, obviously, nicolecollier knew this and knew that
these redrawn maps were quiteliterally voter suppression and
cheating in the next election,she refused to do it and they
locked her in the capitol andwould not let her leave.
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And the news is trying to paintthis as, oh, she was just
protesting, she, she would havebeen allowed to leave.
It was, like her, a protest.
No, it wasn't a fucking protest.
They literally kidnapped thiswoman and held her hostage in
the capital because the onlyother way that she could leave
was to have this guard pig overher so that they could pass
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these bullshit maps that nowmake it impossible for a black
person or hispanic person's.
I need Democrats to stand thefuck up.
First of all, the fact that shewas the only Democrat to refuse
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to sign this permission slip isfucking crazy.
Like why was she the onlyDemocrat who attempted to stand
up to these Republicans?
Like I get that they all leftthe state that was.
That was great.
I love that they did thatbecause it stalled the vote,
right.
But once they returned back,it's like I don't want to say
that they just gave in, becauseI don't think that it's that
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simple to say, but it's like whydid you sign this thing?
To play into their game?
Like that's the thing thatfrustrates me with Democrats is
like I feel like oftentimesDemocrats will try to like play
by the rules or like do thingsaccording to you know how
they're supposed to, but it'slike Republicans aren't doing
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that.
And so if we're continuing tofollow all the rules and do
everything by the book, whatever, so that there's checks and
balances, but the Republicansare not playing by the rules,
they're literally cheating.
They're always going to havethe upper hand and I'm so tired
of Democrats trying to like,play it.
I don't want to say they'replaying it safe, but it's like
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they're trying to follow youknow the democracy, but like
democracy is fucking dead.
Okay, democracy is fucking deadbecause the Republicans and
trump are doing whatever thefuck they want to do.
They've thrown everything out.
There's no checks and balancesand it's like there's no one to
protect regular, normal fuckingpeople.
Because these fuckingbillionaires and these
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republicans and thesepoliticians who will always be
okay, regardless of whateverlaws, any republican passes,
they'll be okay.
You know what I mean?
Like this is only going toaffect the everyday person and
this is why I get so frustratedwith trump supporters who are no
shade but they barely have aworking tooth in their mouth,
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they don't have proper healthcare.
They're living paycheck topaycheck.
They're like can't even affordgroceries.
They're saying they're fuckingvoting for trump because they
want lower egg prices and theyhave to count slices of fucking
cheese, but you're voting forthis billionaire who does not
give a fuck about you, who wouldwalk over you if you're laying
fucking dead.
Make that.
Make fucking sense for me, theway that billionaires and Trump
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have convinced these poor peopleor these people who are
struggling financially that theyactually give a fuck about them
, and they fucking believe thatshit.
Open the schools.
Open the schools, like what?
What do you mean you?
You think trump.
And then I'm seeing people nowbe like oh, groceries are
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getting more expensive, eggprices haven't gone down gas
price no, fucking shit, sherlock.
Like the fact that you believedthat that was actually going to
be a thing that happened, and soyou voted for him, like you're
fucking stupid.
He played in your face and youfucking let him.
That's why I have no, I'm sorrypeople are like we need to show
empathy.
Like they were bamboozled, theywere swindled.
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No, no, no, you weren't.
No, you weren't.
You.
You'll never convince me thatyou genuinely thought that you
would have a better value oflife If Trump were president.
You just hated the thought of awoman, a black woman at that
being president.
So your misogyny and yourracism overtook your fucking
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common sense and then you votedfor trump, and so I have no
fucking sympathy for you.
I have no sympathy for you andI never fucking will honestly
like I hope you get everythingthat you voted for, and I hate
that people who did not vote forthis are also getting what they
didn't vote for, because youdumb fucks couldn't put your
misogyny or racism aside to votefor not only other people but
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for yourself.
Like I will never forgiveanyone who voted for this man
and I hope that you continue toget every fucking thing you
voted for.
I will always wish that on youbecause that is what you voted
for.
This is what you wanted, sodon't come crying now talking
about some.
Oh, my god, I regret my vote.
Like I saw a couple weeks ago,this hispanic man got stopped by
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the border by um custom or notcustoms, by border patrol,
because they were questioning ifhe was in the country legally.
And he's like this isn't what Ivoted for.
Like I have my, I have my birthcertificate here.
Like I, this isn't what Iwanted.
No, this is what you wanted.
You just didn't think that itwas actually going to affect you
.
You thought, for whatever thefuck reason, that you would be
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exempt when they're literallylike, if your skin is too brown,
they are going to think thatyou're undocumented, immediately
, immediately.
And the fact that there areminorities who thought that they
would be fine and voted forthis shit.
Dumb as a box of fucking rocks.
Dumb as a box of fucking rocks,like oh my god it.
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It literally makes my bloodboil because like I just I
genuinely like it all boils downto misogyny and racism.
At the end of the day, there'sno way you can convince me that
you thought that this would be abetter world and like things
would be cheaper and trump wasgoing to do anything of value to
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anyone who's not a fuckingbillionaire.
You're fucking stupid.
Like literally, there's noother way to say it.
You're fucking stupid.
But the fact that republicansand trump are continuously doing
these things and I said thisbefore like he's just going to
keep doing things because he'strying to see what he can get
away with, you'll never convinceme that he won that election
fair and square, ever, ever.
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And so the fact that he gotaway with that and is cheated
his way into the white house.
He's going to continue to dothings like cheating to make
sure that he remains in power.
Republicans remain in power andit's like I need democrats to
stand the fuck up.
If you genuinely like you sayyou care about the people, you
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work for the people, then standthe fuck up and clock the fuck
in and do that like we can'tkeep playing by the rules.
There are no fucking rules.
At this point, there's nofucking rules.
And if we keep trying to dothings by the book, he's just
gonna keep getting away withthis shit, and so I do, I.
I did see that in california andin new york they're also trying
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to redraw maps to kind of kindof like it's giving pendos right
, it's kind of trying to cancelout everything, but it's like we
, we need more, we need more.
That's not enough.
If they're gonna go low, wegotta go to hell respectfully,
like I.
I, we just can't keep doingthis shit.
We cannot keep living like this.
We cannot keep trying to playby the rules while they're just
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gonna keep going deeper anddeeper and deeper into their
bullshit and fuckery andcheating shit and like oh, I
feel like the, the supervillains, are winning.
Where are the superheroes?
Where are the avengers likeassemble, where are you assemble
?
There's absolutely no reasonthat one singular black woman
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should be the one standing up tothese fuck ass people and
saying, fuck you and yourbullshit, I'm not signing this
shit.
And that it should have been noreason that she was the only
person who continued that fightand trying to delay these new
congressional maps, because itis voter suppression, it is
cheating, and the more they getaway with, the more they're
going to do.
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Like I don't, like yo.
This shit makes me, it makes myfucking blood boil Because what,
what actually are we doing?
Y'all say a lot of words, y'alltalk a lot of talk, but like,
are y'all really standing 10toes behind this shit?
It doesn't seem like it,because why, why are these
things still happening?
This shit?
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It doesn't seem like it,because why, why are these
things still happening?
Why is it that, you know, trumpfelt like, oh, I got away with
this, this, this cheating.
I got into the white house,let's just continue to cheat
some more.
And everyone is just likeletting this shit happen.
What the fuck, what the actualfuck?
Like I, it like oh, itliterally makes my blood boil
and it makes me so fucking upsetbecause it genuinely feels like
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who's going to continue tostand up for us and and do the
things that need to be done sothat this fucking country isn't
like continuing to go to shit.
It's already going to shit, butlike it are like what?
I don't even have words.
Bitch, I'm stuttering becausewhat the fuck.
There's no words for this shit,because it's just bullshit.
It's truly just bullshit, andevery single person who claims
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to care needs to be standing thefuck up.
It cannot just be black womenlike it, like it's always just
black women.
And they don't want to fuckinglisten to us.
Like, let's be real, they don'twant to listen to us.
So who are they going to listento they?
It't want to fucking listen tous, like, let's be real, they
don't want to listen to us.
So who are they going to listento they?
It had like more people had tostand up.
And when I say more people, itneeds to be people who look like
them, meaning the people wholook like these racist fucking
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assholes who are trying tocontinue with this fuckery and
this bullshit.
Because unfortunately I'm nottalking about maga, people who
are too deep into MAGA unlessthey work themselves to
unbrainwash themselves.
They're too far gone.
Does that suck to admit?
Yes, but it doesn't make it anyless true.
Some people are too far gone,but there are people who are,
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for whatever reason, no shade onthe fence about.
You know, should I be listeningto trump?
Should I not?
Those are the people that weneed to target because they're
not fully gone yet and, for themost part, those people are
white people.
Right, so we need more.
When I say we need more people,specifically we need more white
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men and white women to stand thefuck up and call this bullshit
out, because the people who areon the fence, like the white
people the majority who are onthe fence unfortunately they're
not going.
The first person they'relistening to is not going to be
a black woman, right, becausethat's internalized racism that
they need to also unpack.
But we need to take baby steps.
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We can't just.
Unfortunately, racism is soembedded into our society that
unless you're working activelyto unpack that shit, it's gonna
control your life in everyfucking way.
They're not gonna want tolisten to black women.
So when I say we need people tostand up, obviously we need,
you know, black people as well,and black people have.
But we also do need white peopleto stand up and call this
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bullshit out, because that's whothey're going to listen to
first.
Again, does that suck?
Yes, but it doesn't make it anyless true, because that is also
internalized racism that theyneed to unpack and they need to
work through.
So for white people who say,like I, I want to use my
privilege.
I want to, you know, make achange.
Whatever.
Stand the fuck up.
It's time to clock in.
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It's it's time to call thisshit out.
And I did see.
I saw one white man and onewhite woman talk about how
racist and disgusting these newmaps in texas are.
That's a good start, but weneed more.
We need more because that's whothey are going to listen to
before they listen to anybodyelse.
Exercise your privilege, whitepeople.
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Clock the fuck in, get in thefield, do whatever you got to do
.
Continue to call this shit outbecause, like I'm, I'm scared
for this country, bro, like Iwant, I want to leave so bad I
do.
Like me and Talia, my roommate,we always talk about doing 90
day the other way.
So, like getting a fianceoutside of the US so that we can
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leave, we're just talking aboutit.
It's just a joke.
It's just a joke, but I justI'm so afraid for literally
everyone in this country and Ifeel like that's what people
don't understand too.
It's like, right now, for themajority, it is affecting, you
know, black people and people ofcolor minorities, but, like,
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unless you're a fuckingbillionaire at some point, this
is going to affect you as well.
And if you keep trying to likeshy away from calling it out or,
you know, not standing up andusing your privilege, like at
some point it's only going to beyou who's left to fight for you
.
You're going to be lookingaround.
There's like a poem.
I can't remember the exact poem, but it's like, you know, this
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person was targeted and I didn'tsay anything because it didn't
affect me.
And then they moved on to thisperson and I didn't say anything
because it didn't affect me,and it goes down.
And then at the end it's likeand now they're coming for me
and there's no one else aroundto help me because I didn't help
anybody else.
Like we have to start thinkingmore of as a community.
And just a closing thought toanyone who doesn't know or
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forgot there is the opportunityto overthrow the government.
It's in our constitution.
If, if we, the people becausethe government is supposed to be
working for us and if we feellike the government is no longer
working for us and not only notworking for us, but harming us
we do have the opportunity andthe power to overthrow the
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government.
So now I will say I don't feelas though black people
specifically, but alsominorities, should be on the
front lines of that.
Because, especially for blackpeople, check the exit polls.
We did what we showed up.
Black people showed the fuck up, shout out to 92% in the 80%.
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So do I think that we should beat the front lines of that?
No, so that's why I said whitepeople when y'all are ready, and
other minorities too, because II forgot about the mexican
polls from the latino community,the asian community, I forget,
the north remembers, but for themajority, you know it was white
people.
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I know that.
So when y'all are ready to be onthem front lines so that we can
overthrow this shit, y'all letme know.
Y'all call me.
Oh, y'all call me because I'mready.
I'm ready when y'all are ready,but I'm not about to be on the
front lines.
I'm not about to put myself onthe front lines.
Of course I ain't about to dothat.
But when y'all ready, let meknow, because we can get in the
field.
But I, y'all go first.
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Y'all first than me, y'allfirst than me.
I just I don't know.
This shit is crazy and it's toothe fuck much going on and I I
need somebody to really step upand do something, and when I say
somebody, I mean democrats, andwhen I say democrats, I mean
the white ones, because I'm notsaying enough.
I'm saying a lot of this.
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For the audio listeners I'mpointing to the back of my hand,
but I'm not saying a whole lotof this.
And for the audio listenersagain, I'm pointing to the front
of my hand.
We need more of this Because,unfortunately, this is who
they're going to listen tobefore they listen to this.
So get in the field, lock theto before they listen to this.
So get in the field, lock thefuck in.
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Somebody gotta do something,because, again, the more he's
able to get away with, the morehe is going to do, and it's like
there's only so much he can dobefore it gets to a point of no
return.
I, I like to, at least for mewishful thinking and to keep my
sanity, I have to think thatwe're not at that point of no
return just yet.
So, since we're not there yet,y'all lock the fuck in and let's
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, let's turn this shit around,because yo, I feel like every
day is something new,something's going on, and I just
it.
Just, it can't only be blackwomen.
Everybody, we all need to lockthe fuck in and get in that
field.
Thank you guys.
So much for tuning in today'sepisode.
I hope everyone's having a goodday, except for that orange
drink, lady, and I will talk toyou in the next episode.
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Peace and love.
Talk to you later.
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Hello everyone, and welcomeback to the Napkin In Between
podcast.
I am your host, Daijné Jones.
I hope everyone's been having agood week, except for that
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orange drink lady, of course.
I am really excited right nowbecause so, oh, I don't know,
I'm just like, oh, I'moverwhelmed, I'm overstimulated.
I'm so sorry if I'm like allover the place today, because
I'm going to a sacred eventtoday and I'm really fucking
excited.
Oh, I'm really excited.
Number one that horse lady juststay taking my fucking money.
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But, number two, I've beenusing sacred for since april, so
four months now.
I started using it after I bigchopped my hair back in april
and my hair has never respondedas positively to a product line
as it has been responding tosacred.
Like my hair is the healthiestit's ever been.
It's more full, it's thicker,like overall, just like way
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healthier than it's ever been.
And so, number one, I'm excitedfor, you know, this product
drop.
And I feel like that cowgirllady know what she's doing,
because I like I'm waiting likea couple more months until my
hair is a little bit longer, butI want to get braids and the
products that are coming outright now are for, like, braids
and wigs and protective styles,and so I'm like the time is
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crazy, like girl, do you know me?
Have you been watching myjourney?
Wait a minute, if I I'm beingdelusional, I know anyway.
But I'm being delusional, Iknow Anyway.
But I'm excited to be able tobe one of the first people to
you know be able to get theproduct and test it out, like
I'm going to have it.
Like obviously I don't haveenough hair for braids right now
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, or maybe I do Y'all thinksomebody might be able to grip
this.
I'm feeling very delusional thismorning, obviously, um, but I'm
just excited to have thisopportunity and it makes me very
, very excited and I feel verylucky to be in New York City.
Like I feel like I've movedaround a bit.
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Um, like I grew up in a smalltown in Pennsylvania and then
when I went to undergrad, I wentto a small town in Pennsylvania
and then, when I went toundergrad, I went to a small
town in Pennsylvania again forcollege.
I went to Juniata College,which was in a small town in
Pennsylvania.
Still kicking myself in the assevery time I think about it
Because, like I didn't know whatHBCUs were back when I was
looking for a college.
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Had I known I would have gone toan HBCU.
That is, like my biggest regretin life and in college in
general is like not go.
Well, my biggest regret isgoing to college regardless.
Like I, I don't really need adegree for the things that I
want to do, being as though,like you know, I do constant
creation and I'm a nanny like ithelps with nannying.
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For sure, people see my degrees, like the families I nanny for
see my degrees and they lovethat I have a degree.
But like, do I technically needit to nanny?
No, they mainly look forexperience.
You know what I mean.
So my first regret is going tocollege regardless.
But like the fact that I didn'tgo to an HBCU, like, uh,
kicking myself in the ass everyday for that, and also to my
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high school counselors like abig fuck you also for not
telling me that hbcus are even athing, like hello, like I feel
like everyone, if you're aguidance school counselor and
you have black students who youknow you're the counselor of,
you should tell them about hbcus, because we just don't know
about them, we don't even knowthat they're a thing.
And so then, like, like Ididn't even have that as an
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option to explore, I feel likethat's bullshit.
I feel like somebody shouldhave to pay for my student loan
debt because nobody told me that.
Anyway, my biggest regret isgoing to college at all, but the
fact that I didn't go to anHBCU like I'm kicking myself in
the ass for that so went to thatwas a crazy tangent.
Went to a college in a smalltown in Pennsylvania and then
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after that, I went to theUniversity of Pittsburgh for my
master's.
Mind you, I'm moving around allthese places and I'm like none
of these places really fit myvibe.
Like I'm the type of person who, like I like to go, I like to
have fun, I like to, you know,experience life, but I also need
space to like be calm and bequiet and be by myself.
So I feel like that's what Iwas looking for in all of these
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places that I moved to.
And so then I moved toPittsburgh, which was a bigger
city, it was more to do, but itwas still very just, not my vibe
.
And then, after I graduated fromcollege, I stayed in Pittsburgh
for a little bit and then Imoved to Atlanta because my mom
lives there, my nephews, and soI was like I'll be closer to
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family, atlanta, love the cityto visit, to live, just not not
my, not my place, right?
So then I was like fuck, okay.
So like what do I do?
So then I was like you knowwhat?
I was visiting New York City alot.
I had friends who lived hereand so I was always visiting
them.
So I was like I might as welljust move to New York City, like
at this point I'm visiting somuch it makes sense to move
there.
So then I moved to New YorkCity and I have just like this
is this is my city.
I absolutely love it here.
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I love the people, I love howthere's just so many different
cultures and just so manydifferent people, like it is
truly, truly, the most amazingcity that I've ever lived in and
I just feel so comfortable here.
And I feel like a lot of timewhen people think of New York
City, they think of downtown,right, like the busy bumping
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Times Square and there's peopleeverywhere.
It's always buzzing, whatever.
And the part of New York Citythat I live in it kind of smells
like a.
It kind of smells what am Isaying?
It kind of feels like a smalltown because I live more uptown,
right.
So like the place that I livein, or like the part of the city
that I live in, it's very quiet.
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There's like family-ownedbusinesses, there's like small
Coffee shops and like just itfeels Kind of like a small town.
Like when I walk outsidethere's people, of course, but
it's not like I'm running intopeople and it's like
ridiculously crazy.
But at the same time I canstill get to downtown New York
in like 30-45 minutes and bearound like Times Square, I can
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go to a Broadway show, I can youexperience what people think of
when they think of New YorkCity.
And so I feel very gratefulbecause, number one, I feel like
I've found my place.
Like I feel like that's soimportant for people is to like
not only find people around youwho feel like home, but like the
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city that you live in or theplace that you live in.
Also, you have to like matchthat vibe.
You know what I mean.
And so I feel like I've foundthat with New York City and it
also gives me the opportunity todo last minute things like this
sacred event, because when theevent was posted on, I think it
was Wednesday or Thursday thatthere would be the sacred event.
In the posting it said like theevent is on Saturday and the
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location and time will be umposted on Friday, my day before
the event, mind you.
And so the fact that I live inNew York City like obviously for
people who may have wanted togo to the event but don't live
in the city, having the detailsof the event come out literally
the day before and not even likea full day before, because I
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was checking all day yesterdaylike when is this event?
I need, I need the time, righttime didn't go up until like 10
30 last night and I was like Iwas trying to like be like okay,
well, she's in LA, so maybeshe's operating on LA time for
the you know, posting of thetime, because technically that
would be like 7 30 but the eventis in New York.
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So, cowgirl, lady, like whywould you wait until like
literally like 12 hours before,because the event is 11 to 7
today, waited 12 hours before todrop the event like girl, what
if?
What if I wasn't in New Yorkorkcity and I wanted to go like
you?
Unless you have it like that,unless you big ball around here.
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You can't, you can't operatelike that.
But the fact that I live hereand literally the event is like
30 to 45 minutes away from mevia public transportation, like
I'm able to go.
And I love that about the citybecause it is like a major city,
right.
So it's like things like thatdo happen, like last minute
events like this come up.
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So it's nice that I'm like herein the city so that if I want
to go to something like that andit's like not even things like
this, but like if I wanted tolast minute go to a Broadway
show, I can go.
If I wanted to just go to TimesSquare, like whatever, I can go
to that and then come back tomy little quiet neighborhood
uptown and also experience likesmall town I say in quotes
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because, like I'm in New YorkCity, so it's not.
I guess it's not really a smalltown Obviously it's still
Manhattan, but it feels like asmall town because it's not as
busy, it's very quiet and it'svery peaceful.
So I feel like I need bothsides to the coin, like I need
to be able to do things if andwhen I want to do them, but I
also need, like my quiet time,when I need that as well.
So saying all that to say thisis the peak of my week.
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It's just feeling like I reallyjust found the place that like
really fits my vibe and I can dothose things and I can go to
events like this.
Like again, I've been usingsacred for four months now and
it's my hair has responded sopositively to it and the fact
that I it will be hopefully in acouple months getting braids
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again, because I I miss beingable to do stuff with my hair.
Like I love the loadmaintenance of like I literally
get up and I pick out my little,my teeny, weeny afro and I go.
I love that.
But I also want to be able tolike get braids and I mean I
guess I could have like donelike a wig, but like also it's
summer.
Nobody's trying to wear a wigin the summer.
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Like it feels like a fuckinghelmet, like it's so hot.
Especially this summer in NewYork was brutal.
We had several heat waves.
It was ridiculous and I didn'thave enough hair to get braids.
I'm not allowed to get abraided wig Again.
Wigs feel like helmets and noshade.
I've never seen a good braidedwig.
No shade, no shade, no shade.
But I'm just so excited.
In a couple of months I'll beable to, hopefully, as long as
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my hair keeps going the way ithas.
I feel like if I found someonewho tried hard enough, they
could probably grip my hairright now, but I don't know that
that would be the healthiestthing.
It would be a really tight gripand I'm not like again, my hair
is as healthy as it's ever beenright now, so I'm not trying to
do anything to damage it, butI'm just so excited to go to
this event.
If that cargo lady is there, yoI'm delusional, I'm being very
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delusional, but maybe I'm not.
Maybe she might show up.
It would be her first outing orfirst appearance since the tour
ended.
So I don't know.
Maybe that cowgirl lady will bethere.
We'll see, we'll see.
But yeah, that has been the peakof my week is just like feeling
like like this event and itbeing like minute I say in
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quotes being that like thelocation and time were given so
last minute, like it justsolidifies for me that it's like
, oh, I just love being here,like I love that.
I'm just like like low-key Iwas.
It was still kind of stressful,like trying to figure out, like
, where it was, or like waitingfor the location to be dropped,
but I knew, like, regardless ofwhere it was, like I could make
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it work.
You know what I mean, like, andI just that's something that I
just love about this city.
It's like people are hereliterally just making it work
and and this city has just so,so much opportunity for that,
and I feel like especially mewanting to be like a content
creator, and you know there's somuch here for that as well.
So, yeah, I just love it hereand I love, I love Beyonce and I
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love black women.
Like that lady knows what she'sdoing, she knows that she could
have revealed the location intime at two hours before it
started, and we were still gonnashow up Like, oh, that's the
power of a black woman.
Like, oh, I love, I love being ablack woman, and I love I don't
know.
I just I'm just feeling verygrateful right now.
I'm grateful for this city, I'mgrateful for being able to go
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to this event, I'm grateful forblack women.
Like, literally, I would nottrade being a black woman for
anything else, even though youknow, black women are so
disrespected and sounderprotected, like I truly
would not trade being a blackwoman for anything else.
Because here's the thing if Iwasn't a black woman, I'd be a
hitting ass bitch too.
I really would.
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I would be jealous and envioustoo, because it's like, damn,
why her and not me?
And I feel like, oh, that mightsound, um, what's what I'm
looking for?
Uh, narcissistic, but it's notnarcissistic, because if it was
narcissistic, I wouldn't be ableto say it's narcissistic.
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Um, black women just really arethe blueprint, and you know
what I'm I get sick and tired ofholding it in.
Isn't that what Halle Baileysaid?
Like, yeah, I get it, I, I toowould be very envious and I
would stare and I would hate ifI was not a black woman.
So, I get it for everyone whofeels that way hating from
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outside of the club.
I too would be hating fromoutside of the club, but
thankfully I got in.
So, uh, I don't know.
I just love being a black womanand I truly would not want to
be anything else.
So that has been the peak of myweek being in the city, being
able to go to last minute eventslike this and being a black
woman.
I just love black women frominfinity to infinity.
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So, uh, yeah, that's been thepeak of my week.
Please remember the peak ofyour week, something that made
you smile, kept you grounded,kept you sane in the chaos of
the world, speaking of blackwomen being the most
underprotected and disrespectedpeople in america.
So, going into what we're goingto talk about today, we need to
talk about nicole collier andthem literally holding her
hostage in the texas capital.
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So, if you're unfamiliar withwhat I'm talking about, it
started earlier this month ormaybe late last month Too.
The fuck, much is going on atall times, I like it's like damn
near impossible to keep up.
But Republicans in Texas wantedto redraw the congressional
maps to essentially favor themin the 2026 midterm election, so
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that they would keep control ofthe house.
Democrats in the state leftbecause they were supposed to
vote on these new maps and thenew outlining of the districts,
and so Democrats left the statein order to stall the voting
process, so that they couldn'tredraw these maps.
Once they came back, they metback at the Capitol and all the
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Democrats were essentially givenpermission slips in order to
leave the Capitol.
They had to be escorted bypolice and, you know,
essentially be under basically awatchdog a watch pig, if you
will to make sure that theydidn't leave the state, so that
the vote would no longer bestalled and that they could
approve the redrawn districts.
All the Democrats, with theexception of Nicole, signed this
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permission slip, essentially toleave the Capitol with their
guard pig.
Nicole Collier refused to signit, and so they kept her in the
Capitol and would not allow herto leave unless she signed this
permission slip to have thisguard pig over her to make sure
she didn't leave the state sothat they could vote about the
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new maps.
She spent, I believe it was,two nights in the capitol
sleeping on the capitol floor.
She had her bonnet, her sleepmask and, I think, maybe an air
mattress or something on theCapitol floor in Texas and was
not allowed to leave because sherefused to have this guard pig.
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And the only reason that theyallowed her to leave is because
they eventually were able topass these new maps without
needing her vote, and so she was.
I'm I'm trying to find it,because like what the fuck are
we?
What are we talking aboutgenuinely?
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What are we talking about?
First of all, a black womanbeing held hostage and not
allowed to leave because shewouldn't abide by their
ridiculous fucking permissionslips is fucking crazy in in
fucking sane because she refusedto, you know, play into their
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game and trying to redraw thesedistricts, which, mind you, the
redrawing of these districts.
Number one, it makes it so thatrepublicans would be in favor
of, you know, in the upcomingmidterm elections in 2026.
But also, it's essentially, andnot even essentially, it is
voter suppression, because now,with these new drawn districts,
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it takes three Hispanic people'svote to equal one white
person's vote and five blackpeople's vote to equal one white
person's vote.
We are quite literally goingback in time.
Three-fifths ring a bell toanybody like what the fuck are
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we talking about?
We're, we're literally goingback into time.
And because, obviously, nicolecollier knew this and knew that
these redrawn maps were quiteliterally voter suppression and
cheating in the next election,she refused to do it and they
locked her in the capitol andwould not let her leave.
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And the news is trying to paintthis as, oh, she was just
protesting, she, she would havebeen allowed to leave.
It was, like her, a protest.
No, it wasn't a fucking protest.
They literally kidnapped thiswoman and held her hostage in
the capital because the onlyother way that she could leave
was to have this guard pig overher so that they could pass
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these bullshit maps that nowmake it impossible for a black
person or hispanic person's.
I need Democrats to stand thefuck up.
First of all, the fact that shewas the only Democrat to refuse
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to sign this permission slip isfucking crazy.
Like why was she the onlyDemocrat who attempted to stand
up to these Republicans?
Like I get that they all leftthe state that was.
That was great.
I love that they did thatbecause it stalled the vote,
right.
But once they returned back,it's like I don't want to say
that they just gave in, becauseI don't think that it's that
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simple to say, but it's like whydid you sign this thing?
To play into their game?
Like that's the thing thatfrustrates me with Democrats is
like I feel like oftentimesDemocrats will try to like play
by the rules or like do thingsaccording to you know how
they're supposed to, but it'slike Republicans aren't doing
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that.
And so if we're continuing tofollow all the rules and do
everything by the book, whatever, so that there's checks and
balances, but the Republicansare not playing by the rules,
they're literally cheating.
They're always going to havethe upper hand and I'm so tired
of Democrats trying to like,play it.
I don't want to say they'replaying it safe, but it's like
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they're trying to follow youknow the democracy, but like
democracy is fucking dead.
Okay, democracy is fucking deadbecause the Republicans and
trump are doing whatever thefuck they want to do.
They've thrown everything out.
There's no checks and balancesand it's like there's no one to
protect regular, normal fuckingpeople.
Because these fuckingbillionaires and these
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republicans and thesepoliticians who will always be
okay, regardless of whateverlaws, any republican passes,
they'll be okay.
You know what I mean?
Like this is only going toaffect the everyday person and
this is why I get so frustratedwith trump supporters who are no
shade but they barely have aworking tooth in their mouth,
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they don't have proper healthcare.
They're living paycheck topaycheck.
They're like can't even affordgroceries.
They're saying they're fuckingvoting for trump because they
want lower egg prices and theyhave to count slices of fucking
cheese, but you're voting forthis billionaire who does not
give a fuck about you, who wouldwalk over you if you're laying
fucking dead.
Make that.
Make fucking sense for me, theway that billionaires and Trump
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have convinced these poor peopleor these people who are
struggling financially that theyactually give a fuck about them
, and they fucking believe thatshit.
Open the schools.
Open the schools, like what?
What do you mean you?
You think trump.
And then I'm seeing people nowbe like oh, groceries are
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getting more expensive, eggprices haven't gone down gas
price no, fucking shit, sherlock.
Like the fact that you believedthat that was actually going to
be a thing that happened, and soyou voted for him, like you're
fucking stupid.
He played in your face and youfucking let him.
That's why I have no, I'm sorrypeople are like we need to show
empathy.
Like they were bamboozled, theywere swindled.
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No, no, no, you weren't.
No, you weren't.
You.
You'll never convince me thatyou genuinely thought that you
would have a better value oflife If Trump were president.
You just hated the thought of awoman, a black woman at that
being president.
So your misogyny and yourracism overtook your fucking
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common sense and then you votedfor trump, and so I have no
fucking sympathy for you.
I have no sympathy for you andI never fucking will honestly
like I hope you get everythingthat you voted for, and I hate
that people who did not vote forthis are also getting what they
didn't vote for, because youdumb fucks couldn't put your
misogyny or racism aside to votefor not only other people but
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for yourself.
Like I will never forgiveanyone who voted for this man
and I hope that you continue toget every fucking thing you
voted for.
I will always wish that on youbecause that is what you voted
for.
This is what you wanted, sodon't come crying now talking
about some.
Oh, my god, I regret my vote.
Like I saw a couple weeks ago,this hispanic man got stopped by
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the border by um custom or notcustoms, by border patrol,
because they were questioning ifhe was in the country legally.
And he's like this isn't what Ivoted for.
Like I have my, I have my birthcertificate here.
Like I, this isn't what Iwanted.
No, this is what you wanted.
You just didn't think that itwas actually going to affect you
.
You thought, for whatever thefuck reason, that you would be
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exempt when they're literallylike, if your skin is too brown,
they are going to think thatyou're undocumented, immediately
, immediately.
And the fact that there areminorities who thought that they
would be fine and voted forthis shit.
Dumb as a box of fucking rocks.
Dumb as a box of fucking rocks,like oh my god it.
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It literally makes my bloodboil because like I just I
genuinely like it all boils downto misogyny and racism.
At the end of the day, there'sno way you can convince me that
you thought that this would be abetter world and like things
would be cheaper and trump wasgoing to do anything of value to
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anyone who's not a fuckingbillionaire.
You're fucking stupid.
Like literally, there's noother way to say it.
You're fucking stupid.
But the fact that republicansand trump are continuously doing
these things and I said thisbefore like he's just going to
keep doing things because he'strying to see what he can get
away with, you'll never convinceme that he won that election
fair and square, ever, ever.
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And so the fact that he gotaway with that and is cheated
his way into the white house.
He's going to continue to dothings like cheating to make
sure that he remains in power.
Republicans remain in power andit's like I need democrats to
stand the fuck up.
If you genuinely like you sayyou care about the people, you
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work for the people, then standthe fuck up and clock the fuck
in and do that like we can'tkeep playing by the rules.
There are no fucking rules.
At this point, there's nofucking rules.
And if we keep trying to dothings by the book, he's just
gonna keep getting away withthis shit, and so I do, I.
I did see that in california andin new york they're also trying
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to redraw maps to kind of kindof like it's giving pendos right
, it's kind of trying to cancelout everything, but it's like we
, we need more, we need more.
That's not enough.
If they're gonna go low, wegotta go to hell respectfully,
like I.
I, we just can't keep doingthis shit.
We cannot keep living like this.
We cannot keep trying to playby the rules while they're just
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gonna keep going deeper anddeeper and deeper into their
bullshit and fuckery andcheating shit and like oh, I
feel like the, the supervillains, are winning.
Where are the superheroes?
Where are the avengers likeassemble, where are you assemble
?
There's absolutely no reasonthat one singular black woman
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should be the one standing up tothese fuck ass people and
saying, fuck you and yourbullshit, I'm not signing this
shit.
And that it should have been noreason that she was the only
person who continued that fightand trying to delay these new
congressional maps, because itis voter suppression, it is
cheating, and the more they getaway with, the more they're
going to do.
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Like I don't, like yo.
This shit makes me, it makes myfucking blood boil Because what,
what actually are we doing?
Y'all say a lot of words, y'alltalk a lot of talk, but like,
are y'all really standing 10toes behind this shit?
It doesn't seem like it,because why, why are these
things still happening?
This shit?
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It doesn't seem like it,because why, why are these
things still happening?
Why is it that, you know, trumpfelt like, oh, I got away with
this, this, this cheating.
I got into the white house,let's just continue to cheat
some more.
And everyone is just likeletting this shit happen.
What the fuck, what the actualfuck?
Like I, it like oh, itliterally makes my blood boil
and it makes me so fucking upsetbecause it genuinely feels like
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who's going to continue tostand up for us and and do the
things that need to be done sothat this fucking country isn't
like continuing to go to shit.
It's already going to shit, butlike it are like what?
I don't even have words.
Bitch, I'm stuttering becausewhat the fuck.
There's no words for this shit,because it's just bullshit.
It's truly just bullshit, andevery single person who claims
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to care needs to be standing thefuck up.
It cannot just be black womenlike it, like it's always just
black women.
And they don't want to fuckinglisten to us.
Like, let's be real, they don'twant to listen to us.
So who are they going to listento they?
It't want to fucking listen tous, like, let's be real, they
don't want to listen to us.
So who are they going to listento they?
It had like more people had tostand up.
And when I say more people, itneeds to be people who look like
them, meaning the people wholook like these racist fucking
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assholes who are trying tocontinue with this fuckery and
this bullshit.
Because unfortunately I'm nottalking about maga, people who
are too deep into MAGA unlessthey work themselves to
unbrainwash themselves.
They're too far gone.
Does that suck to admit?
Yes, but it doesn't make it anyless true.
Some people are too far gone,but there are people who are,
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for whatever reason, no shade onthe fence about.
You know, should I be listeningto trump?
Should I not?
Those are the people that weneed to target because they're
not fully gone yet and, for themost part, those people are
white people.
Right, so we need more.
When I say we need more people,specifically we need more white
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men and white women to stand thefuck up and call this bullshit
out, because the people who areon the fence, like the white
people the majority who are onthe fence unfortunately they're
not going.
The first person they'relistening to is not going to be
a black woman, right, becausethat's internalized racism that
they need to also unpack.
But we need to take baby steps.
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We can't just.
Unfortunately, racism is soembedded into our society that
unless you're working activelyto unpack that shit, it's gonna
control your life in everyfucking way.
They're not gonna want tolisten to black women.
So when I say we need people tostand up, obviously we need,
you know, black people as well,and black people have.
But we also do need white peopleto stand up and call this
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bullshit out, because that's whothey're going to listen to
first.
Again, does that suck?
Yes, but it doesn't make it anyless true, because that is also
internalized racism that theyneed to unpack and they need to
work through.
So for white people who say,like I, I want to use my
privilege.
I want to, you know, make achange.
Whatever.
Stand the fuck up.
It's time to clock in.
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It's it's time to call thisshit out.
And I did see.
I saw one white man and onewhite woman talk about how
racist and disgusting these newmaps in texas are.
That's a good start, but weneed more.
We need more because that's whothey are going to listen to
before they listen to anybodyelse.
Exercise your privilege, whitepeople.
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Clock the fuck in, get in thefield, do whatever you got to do
.
Continue to call this shit outbecause, like I'm, I'm scared
for this country, bro, like Iwant, I want to leave so bad I
do.
Like me and Talia, my roommate,we always talk about doing 90
day the other way.
So, like getting a fianceoutside of the US so that we can
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leave, we're just talking aboutit.
It's just a joke.
It's just a joke, but I justI'm so afraid for literally
everyone in this country and Ifeel like that's what people
don't understand too.
It's like, right now, for themajority, it is affecting, you
know, black people and people ofcolor minorities, but, like,
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unless you're a fuckingbillionaire at some point, this
is going to affect you as well.
And if you keep trying to likeshy away from calling it out or,
you know, not standing up andusing your privilege, like at
some point it's only going to beyou who's left to fight for you
.
You're going to be lookingaround.
There's like a poem.
I can't remember the exact poem, but it's like, you know, this
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person was targeted and I didn'tsay anything because it didn't
affect me.
And then they moved on to thisperson and I didn't say anything
because it didn't affect me,and it goes down.
And then at the end it's likeand now they're coming for me
and there's no one else aroundto help me because I didn't help
anybody else.
Like we have to start thinkingmore of as a community.
And just a closing thought toanyone who doesn't know or
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forgot there is the opportunityto overthrow the government.
It's in our constitution.
If, if we, the people becausethe government is supposed to be
working for us and if we feellike the government is no longer
working for us and not only notworking for us, but harming us
we do have the opportunity andthe power to overthrow the
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government.
So now I will say I don't feelas though black people
specifically, but alsominorities, should be on the
front lines of that.
Because, especially for blackpeople, check the exit polls.
We did what we showed up.
Black people showed the fuck up, shout out to 92% in the 80%.
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So do I think that we should beat the front lines of that?
No, so that's why I said whitepeople when y'all are ready, and
other minorities too, because II forgot about the mexican
polls from the latino community,the asian community, I forget,
the north remembers, but for themajority, you know it was white
people.
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I know that.
So when y'all are ready to be onthem front lines so that we can
overthrow this shit, y'all letme know.
Y'all call me.
Oh, y'all call me because I'mready.
I'm ready when y'all are ready,but I'm not about to be on the
front lines.
I'm not about to put myself onthe front lines.
Of course I ain't about to dothat.
But when y'all ready, let meknow, because we can get in the
field.
But I, y'all go first.
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Y'all first than me, y'allfirst than me.
I just I don't know.
This shit is crazy and it's toothe fuck much going on and I I
need somebody to really step upand do something, and when I say
somebody, I mean democrats, andwhen I say democrats, I mean
the white ones, because I'm notsaying enough.
I'm saying a lot of this.
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For the audio listeners I'mpointing to the back of my hand,
but I'm not saying a whole lotof this.
And for the audio listenersagain, I'm pointing to the front
of my hand.
We need more of this Because,unfortunately, this is who
they're going to listen tobefore they listen to this.
So get in the field, lock theto before they listen to this.
So get in the field, lock thefuck in.
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Somebody gotta do something,because, again, the more he's
able to get away with, the morehe is going to do, and it's like
there's only so much he can dobefore it gets to a point of no
return.
I, I like to, at least for mewishful thinking and to keep my
sanity, I have to think thatwe're not at that point of no
return just yet.
So, since we're not there yet,y'all lock the fuck in and let's
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, let's turn this shit around,because yo, I feel like every
day is something new,something's going on, and I just
it.
Just, it can't only be blackwomen.
Everybody, we all need to lockthe fuck in and get in that
field.
Thank you guys.
So much for tuning in today'sepisode.
I hope everyone's having a goodday, except for that orange
drink, lady, and I will talk toyou in the next episode.
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Peace and love.
Talk to you later.
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