February 25, 2025 • 18 mins
This part two of my interview with Angie Holden from The Country Chic Cottage is where we continue the discussion around sublimation and why it’s a thriving growing area. We talk about everything from materials to print on, printers to use to how to design the best sublimation files for your customers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As natural creatives, we love our projects, we love
our craft time and we'll neversay no to a quick trip to
Michael's.
Although running a handmadebusiness is rewarding, it can
also be overwhelming.
Hey, creative mamas, kasey here, and as a mother of two feisty
toddlers and a business ownermyself, I get the nap time
(00:20):
hustle and live it daily.
Managing the house, jugglingthe kids and getting those
orders out on time can train thelife right out of us.
But what if there was a way toconvert that business of yours
into an online passive incomegenerating machine?
Well, I'm here to tell you it'snot only possible, but
completely yours for the taking.
(00:40):
I'm on a mission to give all ofthe nap time hustling crafty
moms out there the right tools,systems and strategies needed to
convert your own businessesinto consistent yet flexible
income online, all while doingwhat you do best creating.
So put those kiddos down fortheir nap, pop in some earbuds
(01:00):
and kick back.
This is where you stop tradingtime for dollars.
This is where you claim yourlife back.
This is the Naptime HustlePodcast.
Now what if like okay, you'reprinting to a gray shirt.
What if you add, I tried this,so I already know the answer.
(01:21):
But what if you try to add acolor that's close to white but
isn't white?
Will anything show up?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, so white sublimation does not exist.
The sublimation and white isnot.
It's just not a thing.
So when it sees white, it justdoesn't print anything.
The printer doesn't printanything.
So what you're seeing is thewhite paper in reality.
So yeah, you just will see theshirt color through.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now they do have and let's dive into this a bit paper
that is already white.
That's just like solid whitethat you can print to.
But you also have to like die,cut it out in the shape of you
know whatever white area youwant, right?
(02:11):
But then you also have to printand create a file that has
those same color, like has thedifferent colors on it, so that
it will actually print.
So it's like any white of thatpaper, like if you don't tell it
to cut out around the whiteparts, like the white part is
going to adhere to that shirt.
So is that consideredsublimation?
(02:34):
And let's dive into, like, theareas that are close to
sublimation, commonly confusedwith sublimation, and like what
the differences are here usewith sublimation and like what
the differences are here.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, so you can sublimate on glitter.
Htv, for example, has polyestercontent, so you could put
glitter HTV on a shirt, youcould put sublimation on top,
and they make products for this.
So Caesar easy subway is one ofmy favorites.
Again, it's like a white vinyltype thing, kind of like HTV.
You adhere it to your shirt oryou run it through your
sublimation printer and you cansublimate on it.
(03:09):
However, we talked about howthe sublimation ink makes a
permanent bond with thepolyester.
What's happening in that caseis the sublimation ink is
permanently bonding to thatmaterial.
So the Glitter HT, the CaesarEasy Subli, they make
sublimation HTV.
It's bonding to the HTV andthen the HTV is bonding to your
(03:32):
shirt.
So then the permanency of it isonly the permanency of the HTV
to the shirt, and we all knowabout how long HTV lasts, like
when you have a shirt, and soit's not a lifetime shirt.
So it does affect the lifetimeof that shirt.
(03:52):
So it is sublimation but it'snot directly to the garment, if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
It's to the material, pretty much the HTV.
It's pretty much just white HTV.
Yes, it's basically pretty much.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Not all white HTV will work, but most of it is
just white HTV that they'veadded polyester to and you're
putting it on the shirt andsupplementing on top.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So in that case, do you even have to print using
sublimation ink, or can you justuse a regular ink, regular
printer to print to the htv?
Do you know so um?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
the.
The products I talked aboutwould be sublimation products,
but they make products that youcould just use a regular inkjet
printer on, um.
So, uh, caesar makes one.
That's their easy color dtbdirect to vinyl, um.
And then there is likeprintable htv, which is another
good product, um, and those justuse an inkjet printer.
(04:48):
So, and in my tests, um, it'sabout the same, because it's
really just the htv to the shirt, um, sublimation wins.
We're talking about sublimationversus htv.
Sublimation wins every singletime.
So when we're talking aboutsublimation on topV, sublimation
wins every single time.
So when we're talking aboutsublimation on top of HTV, it's
(05:08):
going to be the same as HTV inthe test, like about the same.
So if you don't want to investin a sublimation printer and you
want to use your designs, youcould use something like
printable HTV or like an easycolor.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay, that's why I asked him like okay, so can they
just avoid?
You know people that are kindof wanting to like branch out a
little bit and just see if thisis an area for them.
If they want to start designinglike files, like PNGs, and
putting those on heat transfervinyl using their at-home
printer, then that's an optionfor them.
(05:44):
So what's the differencebetween like screen printing
then?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So screen printing is where you take normally vinyl
HTV, you put it on a screen soyou would cut it on your Cricut
machine.
So use SVGs for that.
So you cut it on a Cricutmachine, you put the vinyl on
the screen and then you use inkto kind of rub over the screen
and the ink it really does embedin the shirt.
So in screen printing in mytests it's extremely permanent
(06:19):
if you do it right.
I do feel like.
So the first thing is screenprinting.
I feel like it has a learningcurve.
The second thing is it's hardto layer without a lot of
expensive equipment and youcan't get color gradients.
So sublimation, I can have anycolor gradient I want.
I can have fancy things in mydesign.
Screen printing is going to bestraight SVG cut files, not too
(06:40):
many layers unless they're veryexperienced.
So that's kind of the drawback,but it is very permanent.
The ink's permanent when theydo it right.
It's really really great.
Um, and that HTV feel on yourshirt.
You can always tell the datesto be on your shirt, right, you
(07:00):
feel it.
Um, screen printing doesn'thave as much of that.
You can still feel it a littlebit.
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Speaker 1 (07:13):
So the heat transfer, just to make sure that I'm
understanding that the audienceis understanding too.
So screen print is paint, right?
That is adhering to the shirtand therefore changing the shirt
(07:37):
color, and heat transfer vinylis pretty much the vinyl.
That is the material that'slike more stickier it looks.
I mean, I'm trying to describeit, but it's shinier it looks
and it will tend to peel off ofthe shirt with time.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes, it sits on top and it's just bonded with an
adhesive that's heat activatedso it will peel off over time,
like let's just be honest, likeit's going to come off at some
point in time.
Screen printing I find it lastslonger and it kind of wears
(08:09):
away, like an old, vintage,retro concert shirt or something
.
It just kind of wears away andlooks really cool, cool.
I feel like screen printingdoes that for me.
Um, so I can wear it a lotlonger because I like that worn
look.
Um.
And then sublimation it doesn'tlike if it's on polyester it
doesn't go anywhere, it it'sthere, it's, it's vibrant.
(08:32):
For the lifetime the shirt willhave holes in it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And let's say like okay, so people start going down
this route with sublimation andthey eventually get to the
point where they're like I loveit, like I want to do this
long-term and I'm ready to takethe next step and invest in
equipment where I can printwhite on the shirt Like what,
(08:59):
what difference in machines?
And uh, price point, like wouldthey be stepping into?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, so once you go into like printing white, um,
they make white toner printers.
There are direct to garmentprinters printers, direct to
film printers, there's all theseoptions um, but it goes up from
, like a sublimation printer.
I can get in at, you know, two,three hundred bucks at the low
(09:28):
end.
Um, these printers arethousands of dollars Usually.
I think I saw a beginner modellike 1500.
Um, so I feel like they're nice.
They make a gorgeous print.
Um, I do feel like they're outof the budget range of a lot of
people.
Um, I've seen some hacksrecently, um, with the eco tank
(09:52):
converting them to direct tofilm, but they still won't print
white because the eco tank isfour colors.
So to get the actual whiteprinting you have to buy the
actual printer that does it.
No hacks that I've seen.
I mean someone will come upwith one, right.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I know that's funny that you say that, because that
just happened to me in like anepisode recently, and they're
like actually, and I hadlisteners, I forget what it was
but the listeners emailed me andwere like actually, there's
this one.
I'm like I knew it.
I shouldn't have even said thatit didn't exist or wasn't out
there yet, but it does.
(10:31):
There is one.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, so by the time this airs, someone on tiktok
will figure it out.
it's fine, it's fine, yes, yes Iknow eventually, but like right
now, I haven't seen any goodlike at a low budget for me.
Starting point for like, if I'ma crafter and I'm just doing it
for friends and family, um,it's really hard to justify that
(10:54):
kind of investment.
If I'm a crafter and I'm justdoing it for friends and family,
it's really hard to justifythat kind of investment.
If I'm only going to print afew Like if I was going to do a
whole business and then it'sstill kind of hard to justify,
I'd have to have a pretty goodbusiness.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Right, right, and for this podcast, for people who
are wanting to start a businessdesigning files that they can
sell, we got to be looking backat what is the market doing,
what are most people buyingright now?
And that is linked back to andconnected to what machines
(11:29):
they're able to buy, and so whenthat price point is thousands,
not many people are going to begoing out and purchasing that,
and so if you're listening tothis and you're considering
selling sublimation files,you're going to be.
Most of your audience is goingto be looking for the files that
(11:50):
don't have that white color inthem, because that's what they
have available to them andthat's what they can afford.
So just putting that out there,because I know my listeners are
going to want to know that part, it's like okay, so who do I
design for?
Design for the people who arein your biggest market, in your
(12:11):
biggest category for the files,and that is people who don't
have those printers that printwhite.
So good, good, good to know.
Is there anything else that youwould like to add as far as,
like, the type of printing thatthe designers can be designing
for?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Um, I think, um, I don't like literally you can
print any file on yourself-immolation printer.
The only um, maybe things I getfrom people um, common mistake
like it needs to be high quality, right.
So they do recommend like 300DPI.
Um, and what someone does isthey take a picture with their
phone and it backs up to googledrive at the low res, because
you have it such a low res youdon't want to use all your stuff
, and then they try to pull itoff google drive and it looks
(13:03):
blurry, so it's a problemmistake.
So keeping it high res, um isdefinitely something.
And removing the background forthem, like that should be
common, but I find like somepeople don't realize that.
Um, and removing the backgroundfor them, like that should be
common, but I find like somepeople don't realize that.
And removing all those whiteareas, right.
So removing the background, allthose white areas, yeah, and
(13:26):
then.
So I will say for like customercomplaint type things, things to
look out for, is like what typeof printer they have.
Um, so I mentioned I've kind oftalked about Epson EcoTank is
low budget, um, what most peoplestart with.
You just add sublimation ink toit, but it is kind of a hat, um
(13:49):
, in that that printer is notmade for sublimation, so people
have color issues with it.
They have to adjust theircolors and there's ways to do
that.
There's ICC profiles, there'sways to manually adjust it, but
your customer may not realizethat, so if their colors are off
, they could have a clog or theycould just need to adjust their
(14:11):
color profile.
So maybe like having somevideos to point them to for
customer service might be good,like, I mean, I have some, but
there are other people that doas well.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So it's a setting that they change in their
printer software.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, so they need to start with the right printer
settings.
They could have a clog and itcould print Like mine the
magenta was clogged, the red andit was printing all that blue.
So I feel like someone that'sinexperienced is going to blame.
You Say it's printing blue.
It's not supposed to print blue.
In reality it's probably theirprinter and then they can adjust
(14:48):
color with the eco tank indifferent settings.
One thing will be on that Ifthey have like an Epson, the
Epson makes a sure color, likeF170, f570, that is true
sublimation printers and thenSawgrass printers are true
sublimation printers.
Those have fewer color issues.
So you know there are videos topoint them to for things with
(15:12):
those.
But you'll probably have fewercomplaints.
So maybe, like when you get thecomplaint and maybe worth your
time to like ask what printerare you using?
What did you press it to?
Um, like questions like that,like, and when you get the
feedback of um, you know an ecotank and I pressed it to a dark
(15:32):
gray shirt that was a hundredpercent cotton, nope.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's not going to work.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, so, um, it might be worth just like knowing
a few of those things.
So you can like, it's not myfile.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, that's what I tell my SPG students.
It's like, okay, if they cometo you, you know.
And then my students come to me.
When their customers come tothem, it's like they're having
experience.
You know, this is a problem andthey can't get my file to work,
like what's happening.
And I'm like, well, have youasked them?
I mean, the first two thingsthat you ask them are what are
you using, what machine are youusing and what are you, you know
(16:10):
, cutting out?
And then you can better helpthem if they're using a
silhouette or a Cricut, and whatfile type are they using?
Because usually we offerdifferent file types in there,
and so this is along those samelines.
It's like you gotta know whatthey're printing out and what
are they printing on in order tobest help them.
And I feel like this is justsomething that you also learn
(16:34):
with time as you're helpingpeople through and as you become
familiar with this.
You know space yourself andtrial and error your own files.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, absolutely, and I feel like it's the same thing
.
Like an SVG file.
They're inexperienced.
You send them that and theydon't upload the SVG.
They upload the JPEG and thenthey want to know why it just
cuts a square like that.
It's the same thing.
You're going to get thosequestions from sublimation
people that are that equal levelLove that Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
so so much good information here, angie.
Oh my gosh.
I have just been like makingnotes and I know that the
listeners are learning a lot,especially those interested in
sublimation, as many of themhave come to me and asked me
let's have somebody on to talkto sublimation and where you
know the more hands-on part.
(17:26):
I have learned a ton, butbefore we head on out, why don't
you tell people what you have?
Is there a guide that they cangrab from you or something to
get started, and where can theygo to learn more about you?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So I have my what I call my free sublimation start
guide and I think you'll dropthe link right, so she'll drop
the link.
You can sign up and what youget is like seven days of emails
.
You can do those at your ownpace.
I send them seven days in a rowand they're just like walking
you through sublimation and itstarts at the beginning.
What is sublimation?
(18:02):
How does it work?
What is a blank?
Starts at the beginning, movingall the way to like more
in-depth sublimation topics.
So wherever you are withsupplementation, you can
probably get something out of it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Awesome.
And then where are you over onInstagram and YouTube?
Where can people get to findyou?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yep.
So it's Angie Holden on YouTubeand Angie Holden makes on all
social media, so just find methere.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Okay, go over and check out.
You have a lot of informationand check out.
You have a lot of information,a lot of great videos on there
too.
So thank you so much, Angie,for coming on.
Thank you, Thank you for havingme.
As natural creatives, we love our projects, we love
our craft time and we'll neversay no to a quick trip to
Michael's.
Although running a handmadebusiness is rewarding, it can
also be overwhelming.
Hey, creative mamas, kasey here, and as a mother of two feisty
toddlers and a business ownermyself, I get the nap time
(00:20):
hustle and live it daily.
Managing the house, jugglingthe kids and getting those
orders out on time can train thelife right out of us.
But what if there was a way toconvert that business of yours
into an online passive incomegenerating machine?
Well, I'm here to tell you it'snot only possible, but
completely yours for the taking.
(00:40):
I'm on a mission to give all ofthe nap time hustling crafty
moms out there the right tools,systems and strategies needed to
convert your own businessesinto consistent yet flexible
income online, all while doingwhat you do best creating.
So put those kiddos down fortheir nap, pop in some earbuds
(01:00):
and kick back.
This is where you stop tradingtime for dollars.
This is where you claim yourlife back.
This is the Naptime HustlePodcast.
Now what if like okay, you'reprinting to a gray shirt.
What if you add, I tried this,so I already know the answer.
(01:21):
But what if you try to add acolor that's close to white but
isn't white?
Will anything show up?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, so white sublimation does not exist.
The sublimation and white isnot.
It's just not a thing.
So when it sees white, it justdoesn't print anything.
The printer doesn't printanything.
So what you're seeing is thewhite paper in reality.
So yeah, you just will see theshirt color through.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now they do have and let's dive into this a bit paper
that is already white.
That's just like solid whitethat you can print to.
But you also have to like die,cut it out in the shape of you
know whatever white area youwant, right?
(02:11):
But then you also have to printand create a file that has
those same color, like has thedifferent colors on it, so that
it will actually print.
So it's like any white of thatpaper, like if you don't tell it
to cut out around the whiteparts, like the white part is
going to adhere to that shirt.
So is that consideredsublimation?
(02:34):
And let's dive into, like, theareas that are close to
sublimation, commonly confusedwith sublimation, and like what
the differences are here usewith sublimation and like what
the differences are here.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, so you can sublimate on glitter.
Htv, for example, has polyestercontent, so you could put
glitter HTV on a shirt, youcould put sublimation on top,
and they make products for this.
So Caesar easy subway is one ofmy favorites.
Again, it's like a white vinyltype thing, kind of like HTV.
You adhere it to your shirt oryou run it through your
sublimation printer and you cansublimate on it.
(03:09):
However, we talked about howthe sublimation ink makes a
permanent bond with thepolyester.
What's happening in that caseis the sublimation ink is
permanently bonding to thatmaterial.
So the Glitter HT, the CaesarEasy Subli, they make
sublimation HTV.
It's bonding to the HTV andthen the HTV is bonding to your
(03:32):
shirt.
So then the permanency of it isonly the permanency of the HTV
to the shirt, and we all knowabout how long HTV lasts, like
when you have a shirt, and soit's not a lifetime shirt.
So it does affect the lifetimeof that shirt.
(03:52):
So it is sublimation but it'snot directly to the garment, if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
It's to the material, pretty much the HTV.
It's pretty much just white HTV.
Yes, it's basically pretty much.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Not all white HTV will work, but most of it is
just white HTV that they'veadded polyester to and you're
putting it on the shirt andsupplementing on top.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So in that case, do you even have to print using
sublimation ink, or can you justuse a regular ink, regular
printer to print to the htv?
Do you know so um?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
the.
The products I talked aboutwould be sublimation products,
but they make products that youcould just use a regular inkjet
printer on, um.
So, uh, caesar makes one.
That's their easy color dtbdirect to vinyl, um.
And then there is likeprintable htv, which is another
good product, um, and those justuse an inkjet printer.
(04:48):
So, and in my tests, um, it'sabout the same, because it's
really just the htv to the shirt, um, sublimation wins.
We're talking about sublimationversus htv.
Sublimation wins every singletime.
So when we're talking aboutsublimation on topV, sublimation
wins every single time.
So when we're talking aboutsublimation on top of HTV, it's
(05:08):
going to be the same as HTV inthe test, like about the same.
So if you don't want to investin a sublimation printer and you
want to use your designs, youcould use something like
printable HTV or like an easycolor.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay, that's why I asked him like okay, so can they
just avoid?
You know people that are kindof wanting to like branch out a
little bit and just see if thisis an area for them.
If they want to start designinglike files, like PNGs, and
putting those on heat transfervinyl using their at-home
printer, then that's an optionfor them.
(05:44):
So what's the differencebetween like screen printing
then?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So screen printing is where you take normally vinyl
HTV, you put it on a screen soyou would cut it on your Cricut
machine.
So use SVGs for that.
So you cut it on a Cricutmachine, you put the vinyl on
the screen and then you use inkto kind of rub over the screen
and the ink it really does embedin the shirt.
So in screen printing in mytests it's extremely permanent
(06:19):
if you do it right.
I do feel like.
So the first thing is screenprinting.
I feel like it has a learningcurve.
The second thing is it's hardto layer without a lot of
expensive equipment and youcan't get color gradients.
So sublimation, I can have anycolor gradient I want.
I can have fancy things in mydesign.
Screen printing is going to bestraight SVG cut files, not too
(06:40):
many layers unless they're veryexperienced.
So that's kind of the drawback,but it is very permanent.
The ink's permanent when theydo it right.
It's really really great.
Um, and that HTV feel on yourshirt.
You can always tell the datesto be on your shirt, right, you
(07:00):
feel it.
Um, screen printing doesn'thave as much of that.
You can still feel it a littlebit.
No-transcript.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So the heat transfer, just to make sure that I'm
understanding that the audienceis understanding too.
So screen print is paint, right?
That is adhering to the shirtand therefore changing the shirt
(07:37):
color, and heat transfer vinylis pretty much the vinyl.
That is the material that'slike more stickier it looks.
I mean, I'm trying to describeit, but it's shinier it looks
and it will tend to peel off ofthe shirt with time.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yes, it sits on top and it's just bonded with an
adhesive that's heat activatedso it will peel off over time,
like let's just be honest, likeit's going to come off at some
point in time.
Screen printing I find it lastslonger and it kind of wears
(08:09):
away, like an old, vintage,retro concert shirt or something
.
It just kind of wears away andlooks really cool, cool.
I feel like screen printingdoes that for me.
Um, so I can wear it a lotlonger because I like that worn
look.
Um.
And then sublimation it doesn'tlike if it's on polyester it
doesn't go anywhere, it it'sthere, it's, it's vibrant.
(08:32):
For the lifetime the shirt willhave holes in it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And let's say like okay, so people start going down
this route with sublimation andthey eventually get to the
point where they're like I loveit, like I want to do this
long-term and I'm ready to takethe next step and invest in
equipment where I can printwhite on the shirt Like what,
(08:59):
what difference in machines?
And uh, price point, like wouldthey be stepping into?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, so once you go into like printing white, um,
they make white toner printers.
There are direct to garmentprinters printers, direct to
film printers, there's all theseoptions um, but it goes up from
, like a sublimation printer.
I can get in at, you know, two,three hundred bucks at the low
(09:28):
end.
Um, these printers arethousands of dollars Usually.
I think I saw a beginner modellike 1500.
Um, so I feel like they're nice.
They make a gorgeous print.
Um, I do feel like they're outof the budget range of a lot of
people.
Um, I've seen some hacksrecently, um, with the eco tank
(09:52):
converting them to direct tofilm, but they still won't print
white because the eco tank isfour colors.
So to get the actual whiteprinting you have to buy the
actual printer that does it.
No hacks that I've seen.
I mean someone will come upwith one, right.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I know that's funny that you say that, because that
just happened to me in like anepisode recently, and they're
like actually, and I hadlisteners, I forget what it was
but the listeners emailed me andwere like actually, there's
this one.
I'm like I knew it.
I shouldn't have even said thatit didn't exist or wasn't out
there yet, but it does.
(10:31):
There is one.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, so by the time this airs, someone on tiktok
will figure it out.
it's fine, it's fine, yes, yes Iknow eventually, but like right
now, I haven't seen any goodlike at a low budget for me.
Starting point for like, if I'ma crafter and I'm just doing it
for friends and family, um,it's really hard to justify that
(10:54):
kind of investment.
If I'm a crafter and I'm justdoing it for friends and family,
it's really hard to justifythat kind of investment.
If I'm only going to print afew Like if I was going to do a
whole business and then it'sstill kind of hard to justify,
I'd have to have a pretty goodbusiness.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Right, right, and for this podcast, for people who
are wanting to start a businessdesigning files that they can
sell, we got to be looking backat what is the market doing,
what are most people buyingright now?
And that is linked back to andconnected to what machines
(11:29):
they're able to buy, and so whenthat price point is thousands,
not many people are going to begoing out and purchasing that,
and so if you're listening tothis and you're considering
selling sublimation files,you're going to be.
Most of your audience is goingto be looking for the files that
(11:50):
don't have that white color inthem, because that's what they
have available to them andthat's what they can afford.
So just putting that out there,because I know my listeners are
going to want to know that part, it's like okay, so who do I
design for?
Design for the people who arein your biggest market, in your
(12:11):
biggest category for the files,and that is people who don't
have those printers that printwhite.
So good, good, good to know.
Is there anything else that youwould like to add as far as,
like, the type of printing thatthe designers can be designing
for?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Um, I think, um, I don't like literally you can
print any file on yourself-immolation printer.
The only um, maybe things I getfrom people um, common mistake
like it needs to be high quality, right.
So they do recommend like 300DPI.
Um, and what someone does isthey take a picture with their
phone and it backs up to googledrive at the low res, because
you have it such a low res youdon't want to use all your stuff
, and then they try to pull itoff google drive and it looks
(13:03):
blurry, so it's a problemmistake.
So keeping it high res, um isdefinitely something.
And removing the background forthem, like that should be
common, but I find like somepeople don't realize that.
Um, and removing the backgroundfor them, like that should be
common, but I find like somepeople don't realize that.
And removing all those whiteareas, right.
So removing the background, allthose white areas, yeah, and
(13:26):
then.
So I will say for like customercomplaint type things, things to
look out for, is like what typeof printer they have.
Um, so I mentioned I've kind oftalked about Epson EcoTank is
low budget, um, what most peoplestart with.
You just add sublimation ink toit, but it is kind of a hat, um
(13:49):
, in that that printer is notmade for sublimation, so people
have color issues with it.
They have to adjust theircolors and there's ways to do
that.
There's ICC profiles, there'sways to manually adjust it, but
your customer may not realizethat, so if their colors are off
, they could have a clog or theycould just need to adjust their
(14:11):
color profile.
So maybe like having somevideos to point them to for
customer service might be good,like, I mean, I have some, but
there are other people that doas well.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So it's a setting that they change in their
printer software.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, so they need to start with the right printer
settings.
They could have a clog and itcould print Like mine the
magenta was clogged, the red andit was printing all that blue.
So I feel like someone that'sinexperienced is going to blame.
You Say it's printing blue.
It's not supposed to print blue.
In reality it's probably theirprinter and then they can adjust
(14:48):
color with the eco tank indifferent settings.
One thing will be on that Ifthey have like an Epson, the
Epson makes a sure color, likeF170, f570, that is true
sublimation printers and thenSawgrass printers are true
sublimation printers.
Those have fewer color issues.
So you know there are videos topoint them to for things with
(15:12):
those.
But you'll probably have fewercomplaints.
So maybe, like when you get thecomplaint and maybe worth your
time to like ask what printerare you using?
What did you press it to?
Um, like questions like that,like, and when you get the
feedback of um, you know an ecotank and I pressed it to a dark
(15:32):
gray shirt that was a hundredpercent cotton, nope.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's not going to work.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, so, um, it might be worth just like knowing
a few of those things.
So you can like, it's not myfile.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, that's what I tell my SPG students.
It's like, okay, if they cometo you, you know.
And then my students come to me.
When their customers come tothem, it's like they're having
experience.
You know, this is a problem andthey can't get my file to work,
like what's happening.
And I'm like, well, have youasked them?
I mean, the first two thingsthat you ask them are what are
you using, what machine are youusing and what are you, you know
(16:10):
, cutting out?
And then you can better helpthem if they're using a
silhouette or a Cricut, and whatfile type are they using?
Because usually we offerdifferent file types in there,
and so this is along those samelines.
It's like you gotta know whatthey're printing out and what
are they printing on in order tobest help them.
And I feel like this is justsomething that you also learn
(16:34):
with time as you're helpingpeople through and as you become
familiar with this.
You know space yourself andtrial and error your own files.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, absolutely, and I feel like it's the same thing
.
Like an SVG file.
They're inexperienced.
You send them that and theydon't upload the SVG.
They upload the JPEG and thenthey want to know why it just
cuts a square like that.
It's the same thing.
You're going to get thosequestions from sublimation
people that are that equal levelLove that Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
so so much good information here, angie.
Oh my gosh.
I have just been like makingnotes and I know that the
listeners are learning a lot,especially those interested in
sublimation, as many of themhave come to me and asked me
let's have somebody on to talkto sublimation and where you
know the more hands-on part.
(17:26):
I have learned a ton, butbefore we head on out, why don't
you tell people what you have?
Is there a guide that they cangrab from you or something to
get started, and where can theygo to learn more about you?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So I have my what I call my free sublimation start
guide and I think you'll dropthe link right, so she'll drop
the link.
You can sign up and what youget is like seven days of emails
.
You can do those at your ownpace.
I send them seven days in a rowand they're just like walking
you through sublimation and itstarts at the beginning.
What is sublimation?
(18:02):
How does it work?
What is a blank?
Starts at the beginning, movingall the way to like more
in-depth sublimation topics.
So wherever you are withsupplementation, you can
probably get something out of it.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Awesome.
And then where are you over onInstagram and YouTube?
Where can people get to findyou?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yep.
So it's Angie Holden on YouTubeand Angie Holden makes on all
social media, so just find methere.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Okay, go over and check out.
You have a lot of informationand check out.
You have a lot of information,a lot of great videos on there
too.
So thank you so much, Angie,for coming on.
Thank you, Thank you for havingme.
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