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July 10, 2025 140 mins

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Dr. Jacobs talks with Fr. Stephen De Young about some of the stranger parts of David's story that don't make it into Sunday school lessons. They talk about why God ordered the destruction of the Amalekites, how giants ended up fighting for the Philistines, and whether David and Goliath were actually related. It's a fascinating look at the biblical world through an Orthodox lens.


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00:00:00 Intro 

00:02:53 David as an outcast 

00:14:50 The preserved traditions surrounding David 

00:23:59 Taking text and tradition to turn it into story 

00:31:27 Sunday school David — fact or fiction? 

00:51:14 The destruction of the Amalekites 

01:15:39 Samuel 

01:23:57 Divine regret and foreknowledge 

01:32:40 Are David and Goliath cousins? (And other relational questions regarding giants) 

01:46:29 How did the giants end up amongst the Philistines? 

01:57:41 David existed in a post-apocalyptic time 

02:08:25 Magic and divination in the traditions of David

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