October 15, 2025 • 21 mins
This is a continuation of the Episode with Eddy Bryce. We pick up from the Point on Vengeance and Letitia James where Bryce tries to make the point that Trump's attacks on his enemies such as Letittia James is just and Godly and poetic Justice.
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(00:03):
Sorry about that. This is the finish the point.
Yes, sorry about that. Sorry, no, my, my, my point is
pretty simple. You know, we're talking about
vengeance, OK. And, and vengeance is the
attitude, John, this is a different thing.
(00:23):
Letitia James ran on the idea that if you elect me, I'll go
after Donald Trump for whatever I can.
I I, I think in that respect there you would have to agree
that that is not healthy. And that's not something we
should be engaging in. So for for her to get caught, by
the way, it wasn't just the Trump administration that got
(00:45):
alerted to that, but but for herto get caught doing a similar
style fraud, which what Donald Trump did was not fraud.
What she did was actual fraud. Remember the the nobody
testified to it being fraud in the Donald Trump case that that
Letitia James brought, the bank said we weren't defrauded.
(01:08):
No, nobody, you know, nobody wanted to go after him for that.
But Letitia James did and and did it again along with the
other people that did not want Donald Trump to disrupt the
cabal of people who are who wereripping us off.
(01:29):
And I say Republican and Democrat uniparty people have
been accumulating power and stealing from us for decades.
And, and Donald Trump has been consistently since back in the
days of appearing on Oprah, saying the same thing, which is
we've been being ripped off and we've been given a rotten deal.
(01:49):
So I, I mean I, I, I hope that answers the question there.
Yes, and but what, what it seem is it's a politics of vengeance,
which does not seem which you know, but you know, I, I'm a
theologian. I, I, I'm a pastor as well.
I study theology, philosophy. But when you, when I think about
(02:10):
as leaders say, for example, people, what in the Scripture,
they say people are still calling Rachel the highlight,
although she's no longer the highlight.
And then the question would be what would, how would Jesus
respond to those who have causedto those who have caused him?
I'll Jesus went on the cross, yes, and that's what he dealt
(02:35):
with it. So if we are going to be talking
about promoting Christian virtues and principles and do
what Jesus did as as someone whois following Christ, how would
Christ treat Letitia and, and the Trump University people and
as a leader now because he's leader of the US.
(02:56):
You know. That's an interesting.
Cardi, could you come back on, please?
We are still on the Zoom meeting.
That's an interesting, yeah, that's an interesting
hypothetical and I appreciate it.
You know, Jesus's purpose, though, you have to understand
in those moments by forgiving the woman you know, at the well
or saying, you know, those of you who, who are without thin
(03:18):
casts of first stone, You know, I mean, he was doing this to, to
teach us lessons in those moments and provide for us.
An example. Jesus also, you know, went into
the temple and overturned the money changers tables and, and
displayed A righteous anger in in delivering what was a justice
(03:38):
at that moment. So you, you, you are
mischaracterizing Jesus if you say Jesus is love, because what
you're doing is you're, you're not being honest about what love
is. And, and for us to reorder our
country towards a strong, you know, moral foundation, again,
(04:00):
we do need to exact not a vengeance, but a justice upon
the people who disrupted that and who have fragmented our
society and those that have divided us.
Is Donald Trump perfect? No, of course not.
(04:21):
You know, am IA, you know, guy who thinks Donald Trump is our
Messiah, Of course not. But but we still have to have
justice delivered and we still have to have those ministers of
justice like Cash Patel and others that are going about the
process of investigating the crimes that other people did,
(04:43):
including spying on Donald Donald Trump's campaign.
I mean, there was, there was things that that we know beyond
a shadow of a doubt happened, existed and people need to
answer for them. OK, Say for example, I wanted to
make the point. Say for example, so you so you
support Donald Trump's action, then you call it and you see it
(05:07):
as God's justice, exacting justice.
So Donald Trump's position at a time like this represents God's
justice, God's whipping his people back to where they need
to go back. Do you believe so?
Well, I wouldn't say it or or use that framework.
(05:30):
We nation of laws and, and we doneed to return to law and order
here in this country. And we do need to balance back
to a time where in years past inold administrations, the, the,
the sins of the previous administration, the the things
(05:51):
that that people did that maybe should not have been done or
were questionable. We moved on from from that we
had an orderly transfer of powerfrom 1 from 1 administration to
the next. That changed after Donald
Trump's first turn there. We've never had people do what
they did to Donald Trump after his first turn.
(06:16):
We we, I, I think by Donald Trump giving a little bit of
taste of their own medicine is healthy in terms of potentially
and I hope it does return us to a time where we settle all that
down and we get back to the traditional orderly transfer of
power that we used to have. But but you know, our country
(06:40):
has been fragmented. It has been undermined by
decades of global interference and all the things that we
talked about at the the the beginning of the show.
And I think that we have a chance to reorder that and re
establish the sovereignty of theUnited States again.
(07:03):
All right, and, and, and you know, and I did, you know, there
are, there are various, and we talk about Christians, but there
are various perspectives on Christianity and there are
various perspectives on what, what on morality as it, as it
relates to the Bible. I have a question for you. 5
years ago I blogged and we're coming to the end.
I, I wrote that a great civilization is not conquered
(07:26):
from without until it has destroyed itself from within.
I was reminded of this while watching the Prime Video movie
Apocalypto and someone had said if Trump, the GOP, and manga
want America to be great again, they may want to first stop the
bleeding from within instead of applying tactics that exacerbate
(07:47):
the wound and destroy what's left of American greatness like
that of the Mayan Kingdom. And then it says great
civilization fall because of leaders and their supporters who
share their who share and defendtheir wild ideologies that put
people against each other and stifle diversity and liberalism.
A great America is a strong America that looks out for all
(08:07):
its people so that they can be resolute in defending any attack
from without. There won't be two one more 2nd
and then I ask you a question from this Black Lives Matter and
so does white lives. Women are independent and and
firm just as their male counterparts.
And the freedom to express our uniqueness in various forms
without denigrating or denying anyone expression over another
(08:30):
is valued and protected so as tostrengthen our unity in spite of
our diversity. So my question to you is this,
if unity feels impossible, wheredo we begin?
What's the first act of rebuilding trust from your
perspective? Because I know you said that, I
know what you have said, but still you believe that we are
(08:52):
not divided. But yet there are those who
believe that. And there's a sense of there's
that sense there. So where do we begin in terms of
rebuilding the trust from your perspective, because maybe it's
a lot of trust. Where do we begin in the
leadership? Where do we begin?
Yeah, what's? The first step.
Yeah, so, so, so we begin by having conversations again,
(09:14):
which is what Charlie Kirk was doing.
We, we though I, I will tell youthis, we do need to eradicate
the poisonous left wing ideologythat says, you know, girls can
decide that they're boys and vice versa, men can get
(09:36):
pregnant, all of those sort of things that were destabilizing
because liberals and and conservatives can get along.
And that's where we are not as divided as you think.
And there's a healthy little parameters that we keep each
other in by by having liberals and conservatives, the Overton
(09:56):
Window moving so far to the leftto destructive ideologies like
collectivism and communism and socialism and things like that.
That is what has destroyed America.
If we are going to rebuild, those ideologies need to be
destroyed. Those aren't just the
differences of opinion. Those are poisonous pills that
(10:20):
that destroy a free and capable society.
Those are poison pills that rob us of prosperity and will put us
in chains. That's what needs to be
eradicated. And and I will join in the EFF
to eradicate that ideology. And and how we do that is by
(10:41):
conversation. How we do that is by education.
How we do that is by exposing those poisonous ideologies and
kicking out politicians and and people that are trying to
destroy the family, destroy our liberty and and that is how we
eventually bring America back towhat its greatness was.
(11:03):
So, oh, so I like you said our liberty, but not any liberty, a
particular kind of liberty, a liberty that says you are to be
who we believe the Bible says you should be, not who you
believe you should be outside ofanything else.
So when you talk about individualism and liberty, it's
(11:26):
not individualism and liberty that is that outside with
outside of a vacuum. It's not.
Yes, it is specific liberty and it is specific individualism.
Yes. Yes, we we are talking about
God's idea of liberty. We're we're not talking about.
(11:46):
But but but but. You know about?
Yeah, but there are big, but I just said there are various
perspectives even within the Christian faith that has divided
it, even the Christianity that has come to the America even
within that. Yes, so, so I'm saying so there
are perspective, but and then The thing is how there are those
(12:07):
people who feel strongly about those positions and believe that
those positions are just dividedbut too.
So how do we reconcile them then?
Because, you know, how do we do that?
Well, they're all. Going to be but the Rachel
Maddow is of today. How do we reconcile the Rachel
Maddow? Are we going to kick her off
(12:27):
MSNBC? Well, how are we going to do
that? Oh no, let her.
Let her be on MSNBC and let the free market decide.
You know, because be let the free market decide.
Remember what happened was during COVID, the free market
wasn't deciding the government was, they were, they were
(12:48):
stifling opinions that that disagreed with the government
narrative. That's where that's where we
have to, you know, free, free market, free enterprise.
And, and I'm not talking about the, you know, corporate version
of capitalist, the, the capitalism that's dominated
things where, where you have government interference and all
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of that stuff and, and the government putting their thumb
on the scale. That's not what I'm talking
about. I'm talking about return to a a
true and free liberty and and you will see good ideas
proliferate and bad ideas die and and Rachel Maddow and I have
irreconcilable differences. But the market will sort good
(13:31):
ideas from bad ideas pretty quickly if we don't have
government interfere. Yeah.
Believe in is that on the dollarbill it says we're out of many
one I forgot what the word is but out of.
Out of men? Yeah.
Out of many, one. And also emphasize that America,
it's on American. If you don't believe, if you
believe that we, I do believe that we are united together.
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We are strong together when we are united.
And I feel like though if we have a united front, we have to
push that. One other thing to talk about is
I do believe in some form of socialism, for example, everyone
has it. For example, if you have if
you're going to push the idea ofabortion is illegal and people
shouldn't have abortion and you want because we're not having
kids in this country, just so you know, all right, how do we
(14:15):
push the narrative? I feel like if you're going to
push abortion what you is illegal, You need to start
pushing the idea of this of America, the state, the
government need to start having something to take care of our
families. If we're pushing family now and
we wanted to have kids, we be like I think I believe I've
heard something where in Israel they every time you have family
(14:36):
have a child, there's a bank account that's open.
So we encourage the we encouragehealthcare for the mother who is
pregnant so that at the family that's God principle.
The community shall raise that child that child to take care of
that child should make sure thiscountry is flourished and we are
having babies because it's not happening.
(14:56):
And so if no one wants that baby, because childcare, every
time I keep hearing childcare, so it's expensive, I'm not
having a kid. We're not having a kid.
So I know we don't like to hear about socialism or some form of
socialism. Even though you're not going to
have it all 100%, a healthy government needs a little bit of
it so that we could encourage the people or give them a nudge
to have the kids. And OK, we are going to get rid
(15:20):
of abortion when you don't want it, but listen, don't worry if
you get pregnant accidentally, guess what?
The state is going to be here because we want to make sure you
have that childish, healthy, grow up and contribute to the
American Society. What about that?
Well, gentlemen, that is something that we should talk
about on another show, especially I'll get to a place,
but I'll get to a place. But well, no, no, I'm not, I'm
(15:42):
not dodging that because I, I think you have a different
definition of socialism than I do, because we're not talking
about no government at all. We're not talking about sharing
resources. You know, we're, I'm not, I'm
not a libertarian thinking that we don't, you know, have some
collective responsibility in community, but but that is not
(16:03):
socialism. And, and, and, and let's, let's,
let's do this again and let's talk in great detail about that
because I think you, you are, you are imagining an entirely
different thing. And, and I think that and I and
I would love to have that discussion and we could go deep.
There I am. I am.
I write about socialism, I write, I write and I'm a
(16:25):
professor. I teach Marxism and socialism,
but we won't talk about that today.
My book is. I hope that they don't ban my
book in Florida because they aretrying to develop a kind of
thinking. I wrote a book on neoliberalism
and I talk about, and my second book is about to come out on
neoliberalism and globalization.It also was it touched on
illegal immigration. We talk about the issue of
(16:48):
immigration and stuff. And of course when you talk
about abortion, I mean, I am against abortion.
I am. I am against abortion.
I am. I think we have a responsibility
too and we have a responsibilityto ensure that life progress.
But how do we do that is anotheris something else.
But I wrote a book on globally and I hope they don't stop my
(17:10):
book. But I believe that part of the
the immigration issue that we have in the country is part of
our interest here in America. The satellite countries can,
cannot do and should not do verywell.
If those satellite countries start to do very well, it's
going to affect our economy in asense.
(17:31):
And so we have always promoted policies that affect satellite
countries around the Europe likeJamaica and so on and so forth.
And so because of it has createdan immigration.
You know, America is like Rome. That's where everybody wants to
go. It's that's important.
That idea is important as well. And not only that and the
policy. So.
(17:51):
So how do I don't think about immigration today?
Wait, right now I see what you're saying.
You're going to the immigration when you're trying to cover all
the topics. I know much.
Time I guess. What you.
Guys, I've got, I've got a hard stop.
I want to do this again. Yeah.
Do this again. Let's go deep.
Yeah, Bryce, thank you, man. Wait, I have a question.
(18:12):
I give you my direct number, Okay?
Wait, Bryce, one of the another idea.
We were talking. Earlier and I was telling you, I
have out-of-the-box idea and I think that's what going to
bridge us, to bridge the gap, because I do believe that
Democrats, they're always insideof the box.
I mean, it drives me crazy. And I believe that the
Republicans and Donald Trump hasa lot of outside of the box
(18:34):
ideas. But sometimes it can be a little
bit too outside of the box. But I do support those ideas.
But how do you make sure that it's not too out-of-the-box
outside of the box and rein it in?
You know what I mean? Like I do?
Yeah. Well, go ahead.
Bryce, final word. Well, well, listen, guys, guys,
I would love to do this again. I, I do have to go.
I've got a hard stop. I've got a I've got to go.
(18:57):
But, but let's do it again. I'll make sure I have a, a much
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(19:17):
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(19:40):
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Sorry about that. This is the finish the point.
Yes, sorry about that. Sorry, no, my, my, my point is
pretty simple. You know, we're talking about
vengeance, OK. And, and vengeance is the
attitude, John, this is a different thing.
(00:23):
Letitia James ran on the idea that if you elect me, I'll go
after Donald Trump for whatever I can.
I I, I think in that respect there you would have to agree
that that is not healthy. And that's not something we
should be engaging in. So for for her to get caught, by
the way, it wasn't just the Trump administration that got
(00:45):
alerted to that, but but for herto get caught doing a similar
style fraud, which what Donald Trump did was not fraud.
What she did was actual fraud. Remember the the nobody
testified to it being fraud in the Donald Trump case that that
Letitia James brought, the bank said we weren't defrauded.
(01:08):
No, nobody, you know, nobody wanted to go after him for that.
But Letitia James did and and did it again along with the
other people that did not want Donald Trump to disrupt the
cabal of people who are who wereripping us off.
(01:29):
And I say Republican and Democrat uniparty people have
been accumulating power and stealing from us for decades.
And, and Donald Trump has been consistently since back in the
days of appearing on Oprah, saying the same thing, which is
we've been being ripped off and we've been given a rotten deal.
(01:49):
So I, I mean I, I, I hope that answers the question there.
Yes, and but what, what it seem is it's a politics of vengeance,
which does not seem which you know, but you know, I, I'm a
theologian. I, I, I'm a pastor as well.
I study theology, philosophy. But when you, when I think about
(02:10):
as leaders say, for example, people, what in the Scripture,
they say people are still calling Rachel the highlight,
although she's no longer the highlight.
And then the question would be what would, how would Jesus
respond to those who have causedto those who have caused him?
I'll Jesus went on the cross, yes, and that's what he dealt
(02:35):
with it. So if we are going to be talking
about promoting Christian virtues and principles and do
what Jesus did as as someone whois following Christ, how would
Christ treat Letitia and, and the Trump University people and
as a leader now because he's leader of the US.
(02:56):
You know. That's an interesting.
Cardi, could you come back on, please?
We are still on the Zoom meeting.
That's an interesting, yeah, that's an interesting
hypothetical and I appreciate it.
You know, Jesus's purpose, though, you have to understand
in those moments by forgiving the woman you know, at the well
or saying, you know, those of you who, who are without thin
(03:18):
casts of first stone, You know, I mean, he was doing this to, to
teach us lessons in those moments and provide for us.
An example. Jesus also, you know, went into
the temple and overturned the money changers tables and, and
displayed A righteous anger in in delivering what was a justice
(03:38):
at that moment. So you, you, you are
mischaracterizing Jesus if you say Jesus is love, because what
you're doing is you're, you're not being honest about what love
is. And, and for us to reorder our
country towards a strong, you know, moral foundation, again,
(04:00):
we do need to exact not a vengeance, but a justice upon
the people who disrupted that and who have fragmented our
society and those that have divided us.
Is Donald Trump perfect? No, of course not.
(04:21):
You know, am IA, you know, guy who thinks Donald Trump is our
Messiah, Of course not. But but we still have to have
justice delivered and we still have to have those ministers of
justice like Cash Patel and others that are going about the
process of investigating the crimes that other people did,
(04:43):
including spying on Donald Donald Trump's campaign.
I mean, there was, there was things that that we know beyond
a shadow of a doubt happened, existed and people need to
answer for them. OK, Say for example, I wanted to
make the point. Say for example, so you so you
support Donald Trump's action, then you call it and you see it
(05:07):
as God's justice, exacting justice.
So Donald Trump's position at a time like this represents God's
justice, God's whipping his people back to where they need
to go back. Do you believe so?
Well, I wouldn't say it or or use that framework.
(05:30):
We nation of laws and, and we doneed to return to law and order
here in this country. And we do need to balance back
to a time where in years past inold administrations, the, the,
the sins of the previous administration, the the things
(05:51):
that that people did that maybe should not have been done or
were questionable. We moved on from from that we
had an orderly transfer of powerfrom 1 from 1 administration to
the next. That changed after Donald
Trump's first turn there. We've never had people do what
they did to Donald Trump after his first turn.
(06:16):
We we, I, I think by Donald Trump giving a little bit of
taste of their own medicine is healthy in terms of potentially
and I hope it does return us to a time where we settle all that
down and we get back to the traditional orderly transfer of
power that we used to have. But but you know, our country
(06:40):
has been fragmented. It has been undermined by
decades of global interference and all the things that we
talked about at the the the beginning of the show.
And I think that we have a chance to reorder that and re
establish the sovereignty of theUnited States again.
(07:03):
All right, and, and, and you know, and I did, you know, there
are, there are various, and we talk about Christians, but there
are various perspectives on Christianity and there are
various perspectives on what, what on morality as it, as it
relates to the Bible. I have a question for you. 5
years ago I blogged and we're coming to the end.
I, I wrote that a great civilization is not conquered
(07:26):
from without until it has destroyed itself from within.
I was reminded of this while watching the Prime Video movie
Apocalypto and someone had said if Trump, the GOP, and manga
want America to be great again, they may want to first stop the
bleeding from within instead of applying tactics that exacerbate
(07:47):
the wound and destroy what's left of American greatness like
that of the Mayan Kingdom. And then it says great
civilization fall because of leaders and their supporters who
share their who share and defendtheir wild ideologies that put
people against each other and stifle diversity and liberalism.
A great America is a strong America that looks out for all
(08:07):
its people so that they can be resolute in defending any attack
from without. There won't be two one more 2nd
and then I ask you a question from this Black Lives Matter and
so does white lives. Women are independent and and
firm just as their male counterparts.
And the freedom to express our uniqueness in various forms
without denigrating or denying anyone expression over another
(08:30):
is valued and protected so as tostrengthen our unity in spite of
our diversity. So my question to you is this,
if unity feels impossible, wheredo we begin?
What's the first act of rebuilding trust from your
perspective? Because I know you said that, I
know what you have said, but still you believe that we are
(08:52):
not divided. But yet there are those who
believe that. And there's a sense of there's
that sense there. So where do we begin in terms of
rebuilding the trust from your perspective, because maybe it's
a lot of trust. Where do we begin in the
leadership? Where do we begin?
Yeah, what's? The first step.
Yeah, so, so, so we begin by having conversations again,
(09:14):
which is what Charlie Kirk was doing.
We, we though I, I will tell youthis, we do need to eradicate
the poisonous left wing ideologythat says, you know, girls can
decide that they're boys and vice versa, men can get
(09:36):
pregnant, all of those sort of things that were destabilizing
because liberals and and conservatives can get along.
And that's where we are not as divided as you think.
And there's a healthy little parameters that we keep each
other in by by having liberals and conservatives, the Overton
(09:56):
Window moving so far to the leftto destructive ideologies like
collectivism and communism and socialism and things like that.
That is what has destroyed America.
If we are going to rebuild, those ideologies need to be
destroyed. Those aren't just the
differences of opinion. Those are poisonous pills that
(10:20):
that destroy a free and capable society.
Those are poison pills that rob us of prosperity and will put us
in chains. That's what needs to be
eradicated. And and I will join in the EFF
to eradicate that ideology. And and how we do that is by
(10:41):
conversation. How we do that is by education.
How we do that is by exposing those poisonous ideologies and
kicking out politicians and and people that are trying to
destroy the family, destroy our liberty and and that is how we
eventually bring America back towhat its greatness was.
(11:03):
So, oh, so I like you said our liberty, but not any liberty, a
particular kind of liberty, a liberty that says you are to be
who we believe the Bible says you should be, not who you
believe you should be outside ofanything else.
So when you talk about individualism and liberty, it's
(11:26):
not individualism and liberty that is that outside with
outside of a vacuum. It's not.
Yes, it is specific liberty and it is specific individualism.
Yes. Yes, we we are talking about
God's idea of liberty. We're we're not talking about.
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But but but but. You know about?
Yeah, but there are big, but I just said there are various
perspectives even within the Christian faith that has divided
it, even the Christianity that has come to the America even
within that. Yes, so, so I'm saying so there
are perspective, but and then The thing is how there are those
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people who feel strongly about those positions and believe that
those positions are just dividedbut too.
So how do we reconcile them then?
Because, you know, how do we do that?
Well, they're all. Going to be but the Rachel
Maddow is of today. How do we reconcile the Rachel
Maddow? Are we going to kick her off
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MSNBC? Well, how are we going to do
that? Oh no, let her.
Let her be on MSNBC and let the free market decide.
You know, because be let the free market decide.
Remember what happened was during COVID, the free market
wasn't deciding the government was, they were, they were
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stifling opinions that that disagreed with the government
narrative. That's where that's where we
have to, you know, free, free market, free enterprise.
And, and I'm not talking about the, you know, corporate version
of capitalist, the, the capitalism that's dominated
things where, where you have government interference and all
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of that stuff and, and the government putting their thumb
on the scale. That's not what I'm talking
about. I'm talking about return to a a
true and free liberty and and you will see good ideas
proliferate and bad ideas die and and Rachel Maddow and I have
irreconcilable differences. But the market will sort good
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ideas from bad ideas pretty quickly if we don't have
government interfere. Yeah.
Believe in is that on the dollarbill it says we're out of many
one I forgot what the word is but out of.
Out of men? Yeah.
Out of many, one. And also emphasize that America,
it's on American. If you don't believe, if you
believe that we, I do believe that we are united together.
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We are strong together when we are united.
And I feel like though if we have a united front, we have to
push that. One other thing to talk about is
I do believe in some form of socialism, for example, everyone
has it. For example, if you have if
you're going to push the idea ofabortion is illegal and people
shouldn't have abortion and you want because we're not having
kids in this country, just so you know, all right, how do we
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push the narrative? I feel like if you're going to
push abortion what you is illegal, You need to start
pushing the idea of this of America, the state, the
government need to start having something to take care of our
families. If we're pushing family now and
we wanted to have kids, we be like I think I believe I've
heard something where in Israel they every time you have family
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have a child, there's a bank account that's open.
So we encourage the we encouragehealthcare for the mother who is
pregnant so that at the family that's God principle.
The community shall raise that child that child to take care of
that child should make sure thiscountry is flourished and we are
having babies because it's not happening.
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And so if no one wants that baby, because childcare, every
time I keep hearing childcare, so it's expensive, I'm not
having a kid. We're not having a kid.
So I know we don't like to hear about socialism or some form of
socialism. Even though you're not going to
have it all 100%, a healthy government needs a little bit of
it so that we could encourage the people or give them a nudge
to have the kids. And OK, we are going to get rid
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of abortion when you don't want it, but listen, don't worry if
you get pregnant accidentally, guess what?
The state is going to be here because we want to make sure you
have that childish, healthy, grow up and contribute to the
American Society. What about that?
Well, gentlemen, that is something that we should talk
about on another show, especially I'll get to a place,
but I'll get to a place. But well, no, no, I'm not, I'm
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not dodging that because I, I think you have a different
definition of socialism than I do, because we're not talking
about no government at all. We're not talking about sharing
resources. You know, we're, I'm not, I'm
not a libertarian thinking that we don't, you know, have some
collective responsibility in community, but but that is not
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socialism. And, and, and, and let's, let's,
let's do this again and let's talk in great detail about that
because I think you, you are, you are imagining an entirely
different thing. And, and I think that and I and
I would love to have that discussion and we could go deep.
There I am. I am.
I write about socialism, I write, I write and I'm a
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professor. I teach Marxism and socialism,
but we won't talk about that today.
My book is. I hope that they don't ban my
book in Florida because they aretrying to develop a kind of
thinking. I wrote a book on neoliberalism
and I talk about, and my second book is about to come out on
neoliberalism and globalization.It also was it touched on
illegal immigration. We talk about the issue of
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immigration and stuff. And of course when you talk
about abortion, I mean, I am against abortion.
I am. I am against abortion.
I am. I think we have a responsibility
too and we have a responsibilityto ensure that life progress.
But how do we do that is anotheris something else.
But I wrote a book on globally and I hope they don't stop my
(17:10):
book. But I believe that part of the
the immigration issue that we have in the country is part of
our interest here in America. The satellite countries can,
cannot do and should not do verywell.
If those satellite countries start to do very well, it's
going to affect our economy in asense.
(17:31):
And so we have always promoted policies that affect satellite
countries around the Europe likeJamaica and so on and so forth.
And so because of it has createdan immigration.
You know, America is like Rome. That's where everybody wants to
go. It's that's important.
That idea is important as well. And not only that and the
policy. So.
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So how do I don't think about immigration today?
Wait, right now I see what you're saying.
You're going to the immigration when you're trying to cover all
the topics. I know much.
Time I guess. What you.
Guys, I've got, I've got a hard stop.
I want to do this again. Yeah.
Do this again. Let's go deep.
Yeah, Bryce, thank you, man. Wait, I have a question.
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I give you my direct number, Okay?
Wait, Bryce, one of the another idea.
We were talking. Earlier and I was telling you, I
have out-of-the-box idea and I think that's what going to
bridge us, to bridge the gap, because I do believe that
Democrats, they're always insideof the box.
I mean, it drives me crazy. And I believe that the
Republicans and Donald Trump hasa lot of outside of the box
(18:34):
ideas. But sometimes it can be a little
bit too outside of the box. But I do support those ideas.
But how do you make sure that it's not too out-of-the-box
outside of the box and rein it in?
You know what I mean? Like I do?
Yeah. Well, go ahead.
Bryce, final word. Well, well, listen, guys, guys,
I would love to do this again. I, I do have to go.
I've got a hard stop. I've got a I've got to go.
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But, but let's do it again. I'll make sure I have a, a much
better signal for you and, and, and I appreciate you guys having
me on. Thank you so much.
Anybody want to reach you? How can they reach you?
Oh yeah. Bryceeddie.com BRYC eeddy.com is
(19:17):
where you can find my show and leads to everything else.
I'm on all the podcast apps. I'm on Rumble Super Bryce Eddie
on Instagram if you want to follow me there.
Bryce Eddie one on Twitter. All right, guys, thank you.
I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
And I'm Ronaldo McKenzie of the New Liberal Podcast and of
course joining me was Ricardo McKenzie, the Co host of the New
(19:40):
Liberal podcast and the executive producer of the Pups.
Ricardo, any words from today? I think Ricardo left, and so
perhaps reconciliation isn't about agreement but
acknowledgement, not sameness, but seeing if faith can do
anything for this fractured world.
(20:00):
It's remind us that every voice,every difference, every doubt
still belongs at the table. Thank you Eddie, Bryce or Bryce,
Eddie for sitting at us. I'm Ronaldo McKenzie of the
Neoliberal podcast and YouTube channel.
I'm also author of Neoliberalism, Globalization,
income Inequality, Poverty and Resistance.
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