Celebrating Two Years of the NDC Podcast!

It's our second Podiversary! We are super excited to be back after a long break! We have a bit of a new structure to introduce, and we will explain our absence. Thank you for two great years, and here's to season 3!

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Episode Transcript

(00:13):
Hi, I'm minder. Hi, Nikki, we're back.
It's been a hot ass minute. Yep.
It's showmance. We we took a little unexpected
break. Yeah, baby sabbatical, if you
will. Life, just life just both real

(00:34):
hard in the ass. So we had to sit, sit down and
and chill out for a little bit. Took a little baby sabbatical,
but you know what? It is our the day that we're
recording. This is 2 days before the 2nd
anniversary of our show. So you guys will be hearing this
on May 4th. So just right off the bat, May

(00:57):
the fourth. Yeah.
Wow. Words.
May the fourth be with you, Aminder.
And also with you. Thank you.
Let us lift up our hearts. Sorry.
That's the Catholic part. Sorry about that.
Catholic came out of me a littlebit.
But yeah, we're happy to be back.
I'm happy to be back. I was thinking about this.

(01:17):
Oh God, not a yacht already. It's these fucking cans.
I hate them so much. I hate them.
I hate them so much. I need new headphones guys,
desperately. My kid keeps losing or breaking
his and then I buy him new headphones or give him my
headphones and I forget to buy myself new ones and then I only

(01:38):
remember to buy the new ones when I need them.
Then it's like shit, I forgot tobuy new headphones and then I'm
stuck using the cans that make me yawn.
But it's fine. You know what we're not, We're
not Debbie down in today. This is a good day.
It's a happy day. We are celebrating 2 whole years
of podcasting together on this beautiful Friday, early or late

(02:06):
morning because it's about 11:00AM 11/15.
So we obviously have some splaining to do as to what the
hell, why we disappeared for a little bit.
So we'll do a little mini splaining and then we have a

(02:27):
sort of a state of the pod address for you.
We have some things that we needto get into, some little bitty
like changes in structure, housekeeping and housekeeping
and whatnot. Uh, I'm sorry.
There is a commotion outside my door.
She just definitely squirreled right now.
Yeah, sorry. It looked like there was a dude

(02:48):
that just pulled up and took my trash can out of my yard, but he
definitely picked up a differenttrash can, I guess.
I don't know. I was corn fused.
I'm really sorry. That was a big squirrel.
That's what I get for having a window right within my fucking
view. Should we do?
Should we do like what you do with Ella, your dog, where you

(03:09):
have to like? Pull the blinds.
All the blinds down so you're not distracted by what's
outside. Yeah, maybe it's it's, it's
possibly, but hey, what the fuckwas I even saying?
What was I even saying? Talk about the state of the pod.
State of the pod where we. Were and.
Everything. Yeah.
So we're gonna chat at you aboutthat.
So let's just, God bless it. Let's just get to it, Amanda.

(03:34):
Talk at the people. Tell.
Tell them what the hell has happened.
Well, basically the reason why we took a break is, is mostly, I
wouldn't say my fault, but it's just mostly like the like, it's
basically I'm the reason it's because I just told Nikki I'm
like, I just don't want to rightnow.
I just, I just don't 'cause I just, it's not necessarily

(04:00):
burnout 'cause I haven't really been doing much to like
facilitate the burnout, I guess.But it's more of the, it's more
of the like I didn't find purpose as much doing the
podcast. Like it didn't like bring as
much joy as it did before. And so I just needed to find a

(04:22):
way to make it enjoyable again. And it's also cause because like
we kind of stopped really planning what we were doing.
We kind of just, we're going by the seat of our pants.
And so the little, the little self diagnosed autism.
I mean, it was like, we kind of need some sort of structure.

(04:42):
We have no structure. And so because we don't have
structure, I just don't feel like doing the thing anymore.
And we, we, I just felt a littlelost cause Nikki, Nikki always
told me she's like, I don't wantto do this.
If, you know, it feels like a chore.
It feels like another task. And it was beginning to feel
like a task to me. And so that's kind of that's

(05:04):
kind of where I was at, where I was like, I just, it's like,
it's not like I like rue or regret, like recording.
Like once we're recording, I feel fine.
It's like, it's kind of like going to the gym.
Like if I can get to the gym, I'm fine.
Yeah, it's, it's getting gettingup to like the process of
recording and trying to think ofwhat to do for like recording

(05:25):
and a topic and being in the right head space.
So I just, like I said, I just felt a little lost for for a
little bit. I said I was like, I just need a
break. I I was like, yeah.
That's where I and I, I could tell.
I could tell. And you know what?
It was honestly feeling the sameway to me.

(05:46):
And I think neither of us just thought to tell each other that
until finally I was like, listen, maybe we should just
take a little pause, little pause for a moment and, and just
re evaluate shit, take a break, figure out what we're where,
what are we at? Where are we doing?

(06:07):
Like what, where are we at with this?
How do we feel 'cause like you said, like I've always said, I
won't do this anymore if it starts to feel like just some
other thing we need to do. And I've also always said when
we're done, we're done, right? Like I, I don't, I don't know
how long this show is going to be a show because when we're

(06:27):
over it, we're over it, you know, and if one of us gets over
it, the other one's not over it.I, we got to bow out with each
other. This is a two person team here,
you know. So we took the break.
I don't think either of us were ready to quit.
We weren't at that headspace, but we just needed a break.
And so we had, you came up and saw me for like a whole week,

(06:54):
which was really fun, and we literally watched hours and
hours and hours and hours of Star Wars the entire week long.
What all did we get through 'cause I don't even remember.
It's just a blur. So she wanted to do it in like
chronological order 'cause she hasn't been like keeping up with

(07:16):
Star Wars since like Episode 7, The Force Awakens.
Like she didn't watch. Oh, sorry, my camera keeps going
out. So we, we started with the
Acolyte, which is set like 100 years before, before Phantom

(07:38):
Menace. So really the only like we don't
write like none of the characters that we know from
the, like, from like the Skywalker sauger in it, except
for like a little cameo at the very, very end.
Like you see Yoda, like the backof Yoda, cause Yoda's like 900
years old. And so which, which is which is

(07:59):
fine. Like I'm not saying like, oh
damn, it's not set within the other.
It's like it was cool because like it was set like during the
High Republic era. Yeah.
So like they don't like the Sitharen't around.
Like it's kind of like just peace or whatever.
And Jedi it's but there's no balance in the force.
And that's that's why it kind oflike leads up to the saga that

(08:19):
we know. So I watched The Acolyte.
That was so good. Yeah.
And she's. And she's seen like the main 6
movies and then like I said, shesaw Force Awakens.
So we watched The Acolyte, we watched the Obi Wan Kenobi show

(08:41):
and Andor yeah, Andor Rogue One or the first season Andor cause
Andor season 2 just came out a couple a couple weeks ago.
And so Andor season 1, the RogueOne movie, and then Mandalorian

(09:01):
all three seasons and the Book of Boba Fett.
Yeah. I think that's it, yeah, 'cause
we couldn't, we couldn't make itto Ahsoka, I think.
I think that's the only one we were missing was Ahsoka.
And we, I told her I'm like, yeah, there's like a couple, a
couple. Like some of us, like, as I

(09:21):
haven't seen like the whole Clone Wars cartoon, like I've
seen like a season and a half and so and like I haven't seen
Rebels. I, I did watch a few episodes of
Rebels myself, like 'cause to me, like Ahsoka is so good that
it made me wanna watch Rebels. Cause like a lot of characters

(09:42):
in Ahsoka are from Rebels. And, and it's like I didn't know
who any of these characters were.
And so I watched like the last two episodes of Rebels because
like, it literally leads up to Ahsoka.
Like Ahsoka I guess is considered like, like the live
action version of the next season of Rebels in a way.
And so, yeah, I think that's what we, yeah.

(10:03):
So we watched three seasons of Mandalorian, a season, The Book
of Boba Fett, which to be fair, is like 6 episodes, 6-7
episodes. And then Andor Rogue One, we
didn't watch solo 'cause it's like it we could have, but it it
kind of like we're kind of like,I'm not really sure what we're

(10:24):
like focused on and focus more like I guess more on the.
Reestablished the timeline, yeah, because so.
She was like, how old are the twins now?
I'm like, OK, so like I was like, we were like four or five
years before the 1st movie and she's like, OK, like Episode 4,
which Star Wars is confusing. Like the fact that they did 4-5
and six and then 1-2 and three. Obviously when he made the

(10:46):
movies, he wasn't expecting to do 1-2 and three.
Like he's expecting 4, you know,4-5 and six to be the 1-2 and
three. Like he wasn't planning 20 years
in the future, right? And so and beyond.
And so it's, and I would say like I'm a pretty casual fan of
Star Wars. Like, like I'm one of those
people that it's like, I will read everything on the Wikipedia

(11:11):
about a show or whatever, but I won't like really read the books
about like there's a lot of StarWars books and obviously like a
lot of it's not Canon, but it's like the aesthetic universe type
of thing. But like I, I haven't seen like
all of Clone Wars. I haven't seen Rebels, I haven't
seen like Bad Batch or Tales of the Jedi.
Like there's so many shows it's like, but I'll read the hell out
of like a character's Wikipedia page.

(11:34):
So that's, that's how I get intoa lot of things too.
So I'm pretty casual fan. Like I've seen more than the
movies. Yeah.
And we didn't, we didn't get, Ohyeah.
We didn't get to the 8th and 9thStar Wars movies 'cause we were
like, it's a going chronologicalorder.
And so we ended at Mandalorian and book a boa fet.
And so the next one would be Ahsoka.

(11:55):
And then like after that would be 8-9.
So 'cause I think yeah, 9 is like the last in chronological
order for like the main like live action shows and movies.
Yeah, so that was the goal. The goal was to re establish the
timeline for me because it's been so long and I felt I don't

(12:15):
know about how you guys get whenyou're listening or when you're
listening, when you're like a fan of something, but like life
gets in the way and then the theuniverse takes off without you
and. Leaves you in the.
Dust Yeah. Oh God, the MCUII feel the same
way with Star Wars as I do the MCU.

(12:37):
I love both universes, want to watch everything from both
universes, but I feel so left inthe dust from all the things
that have come out because I just don't keep up well enough
and fast enough. I can't keep up fast enough.
So it was the same thing with the Lord of the Rings extended

(13:00):
universe that they're they're doing now.
Like I didn't watch Rings of Power.
Until like, I came up there and I was like, no, we're watching
Ring of Rings of Power. Like we watch like the first six
episodes, Rings of Power, Everything, every.
Episode was out by the time I watched it, right?
Yeah, yeah, so and that was what, 6 months after it'd come
out or something like that? Well, no longer, because the

(13:21):
second season was getting ready to come out, I think wasn't.
It no, this was like a year or two ago when we did that.
Yeah, but it had been ages sincethat had concluded, right?
And I still hadn't watched it. I just feel, I feel like I get
so far behind and then I get overwhelmed by the amount of
content I would have to consume to get caught up and then the

(13:42):
timelines that I would have to try to follow.
And time, as we have talked about before on the show, is
absolutely irrelevant to me. Much like geography, time is
just one of those concepts that doesn't ever seem to form the
right connections in my brain. The neurons are not firing.

(14:04):
Yeah, like the fold was never made in my brain, right.
The permanent fold was never created in my brain for time or
geography. It just was not OK.
So I have very abstract conceptsof both things and they just
don't. It does not compute.
You know how some people have like, aphantasia where like,
they can't? That's the one where like they

(14:27):
can't picture in their brain, right?
Like so they don't have a picture.
Like when you say a juicy red apple, they don't see a juicy
red apple in their mind's eye. Right, Some people, there's very
different levels of that too, which is that might be a future
episode where like some people will see like the outline of the
apple or they'll see like a greyapple, or they'll see like maybe

(14:47):
a cartoon apple. But but and then like some
people see a fully realized likerealistic apple.
It's just there's different levels of it too, which to me is
like Neffling as someone who canlike pictures, like when I'm
reading, like I'm picturing everything that I'm reading and
and like I have same with peoplethat don't have like an internal
monologue. I'm like you just sit in
silence. There's what is silence.

(15:09):
We don't, we don't know what. Silence.
Is like, that's why I'm just always talking anxious all the
time because my brain doesn't shut the fuck up.
Never. Stops.
It never stops. And I remember the first time I
took my medication and realized that I hadn't had a thought
alongside the music I was listening to in like 30 minutes

(15:29):
and I was like, holy shit, this is what the rest of the world
looks. It looks and feels like.
Like this is what normal people experience.
They can actually listen to the music and not be thinking about
other things while also listening to music and driving
like it's squirrel, but you knowwhat I mean?
Like it's difficult for me to catch up on extended universes

(15:51):
when there's so many hours. Especially like cutting out like
Marvel, especially like they're making like two or three things.
Like they used to just do one thing a year.
That was that was their thing. Now it's like two or three,
maybe 4 things a year. And as someone who loves all the
Star Wars stuff, like yes, like you can call me like a fangirl

(16:11):
and whatever. And it's not like I find
anything that Marvel makes to belike everything's absolutely
good. Like there's some stuff I don't
like, you know, but none of it like I would say, oh, I hated
that or that was awful. Like some of it, it's kind of
like, it's kind of like Avatar the Last Airbender.
Like the The Great Divide episode, everyone can agree is
the worst Avatar episode. And so typically when I rewatch

(16:34):
Avatar, I skip the episode 'cause it's irrelevant and not
necessary. So sometimes, like with Marvel
when getting Nikki, like not really caught up, but like we
watched last time she was here or the time before we watched
Agatha all along 'cause I'm like.
I think you would like. I was like, I think you would
like Agatha. I think you'd like this show

(16:55):
because like so, but we we she hadn't seen Loki, which which to
be fair, like a lot of the marvel shows aren't really
connected like to everything else.
Like they'll make some mention to other things, but like, so we
watched Agatha all along. Like she hasn't seen Moon night,
she hasn't seen Loki, she hasn'tseen like Falcon and Winter
Shoulder, like she hasn't seen like all these other shows.
But it's not really necessarily.The only thing I showed her was

(17:17):
because we watched Wanda Vision before.
That was such a mistake. Yeah, we watched.
I mean it was good, but I cried so much.
So many crying, but she hadn't seen the Multiverse of Madness,
the Doctor Strange movie. So I kind of just showed her
like parts of that because it does like lead into Agatha.

(17:38):
Like they discussed like very briefly some things that
happened in that I won't spoil anything, but they discussed
very briefly because I didn't want to like watch Agatha and be
all confused, like what what happened, why.
And so I just kind of showed herbits and pieces of that.
So it's, I'm one of those peoplethat's like I'm, I'm, I'm also

(17:59):
one of like, I will watch the hell out of reaction videos.
Like I especially like stuff I've seen it.
It's, it's very weird. It's like there's so many shows
and movies I've seen multiple times, 'cause I would like, I
will watch multiple reaction channels like their, like their
take on things. Cause like, one, they might say

(18:20):
something I never thought of before.
And two, it's like, it's kind oflike, it's, it's like watching
with someone like, and it's, it's, it's the joy of seeing
someone enjoying something that you like.
And so that, that sort of thing and trying to, and get seeing
the reaction. So I I never am bothered like
rewatching something I enjoy with someone else who hasn't

(18:41):
seen it because it's like I liketo getting their reaction to
things. So sometimes, like when me and
Nikki are like watching something I'll like, I'll like
not so slyly like look at her belike like side eye here.
I'm like. Yeah, so she's the perfect
friend to like get caught up on old shows and things with

(19:03):
because she's like always down to rewatch it.
So but yeah, it was it was just much needed, like chill week,
right. We again took zero pictures of
ourselves because why would? We even though, even though I
went up there and even though before I went up there, I said,
oh, I have like this, this is like the one picture I have of

(19:23):
me and the boys. Yeah, pictures did not do that.
I also like I took my laptop, didn't take my laptop out a
single time. Like I was just kind of done
with the world like bare, like barely used my phone for
anything. It's just the only thing I did
was like my daily Duolingo that was like, that was my thing.
Like did not. I kind of just used it as kind

(19:44):
of like a retreat of I'm just shutting out.
I'm just shutting out everythingelse.
So like I said, didn't did not even use my laptop.
Like we barely went anywhere besides like her like doctor's
appointments or hair hair hair her hair appointment.
But. And so we kind of just chilled
and it was, it was, it was very much needed, I think for both of

(20:06):
us. Yeah, it it was, it was good
times had by all. But yeah.
So while she was here, we kind of talked about like what we
were, how we were feeling about the show, trying to figure out
what it was that was like keeping us from.
Where's the block? Like what was the block we were

(20:26):
having? Where's the block, right?
Like what's what's the problem? Why does this no longer feel
good, right? What is what's the difference?
Because we were doing really well and everything was fine and
then what happened? And I think we just sort of came
to the conclusion that like as much as the ADHD loves the
novelty and the fly by the seat of the pants, the TISM needs the

(20:47):
structure to function right? Like the, the default thing
needs to be structured. Because have anything
sustainable, like we can't just,we can't just keep like it's
like it's like we had to have a balance of like chaos and order
like, yeah, so, yeah. So we kind of like made-up a
schedule, not like a schedule, but kind of like a template of

(21:08):
well here's like what a like a tentative schedule will look
like. And we can, if we have like an
idea like the ADHDNS is like, Ohyes, this this is what I want to
talk about. This is my hyperfixation right
here. And then so we kind of had to re
evaluate the situation and basically get back to square one
because we were getting, we werebeing ahead for a while.

(21:31):
Like we would record 2 episodes of time.
We, we might, we sometimes we'relike 3-4 weeks ahead.
But then we got to a point wherewe were recording like the day
before and just recording one episode.
So we kind of just, we, we lost the steam.
Yeah. And I think I think the
fundamental issue was we need structure, we need to plan

(21:51):
things a little more. And I think, you know, and
again, Amanda being who she is and thriving in the structure
and being able to work Excel slash Google Sheets, you know,
created this lovely little Google Sheets for us to use.

(22:11):
It's got drop down menus and color coding and dates.
And it's wonderful. And I was like, if you create me
a system, I will use it. If you make it, they will come,
right? You build it, they will come.
That is what this is. So she built it and I came to
it. I'm not going to say I came
because it's gross. I came to it.

(22:34):
It just expanded me so much. Spreadsheets, calculations,
formulas. Shit.
Oh God, my brain is just fried. It's also like a high pain day
for me. So like like literally the fact
that I could sit here and laugh right now is wonderful because
the only reason I'm feeling nothing right now is caffeine

(22:56):
and Tylenol. I'm, I'm.
So it's rough. Like being upright is not a good
thing today. Like I, I've been in my chair as
much as humanly possible. Like to the point where I'm
probably not going to be able togo to my kids band contest thing
later today because like I, I physically can't stand for more
than like 5 minutes without my joints trying to give up on me.

(23:18):
So anyway. They don't seating there.
They do, but I can't sit. It's outside and I can't sit on
those damn bleachers for that long.
If I wasn't, if I wasn't alreadyin pain, I could handle it.
But I I can't sit in those Yeah,on those bleachers like that.

(23:41):
I I can't do it. I'm.
Gonna buy chair. Yeah, I do, but I don't think
there's anywhere. Like I don't know how they have
this thing set up. So usually when I go to his
band, like things, it's just at a different school.
It's not at his school. So like usually when I go to his
band things, they have chairs set out in the front and then

(24:02):
also bleachers behind and I'll just go sit in the chairs.
So like, I don't care. Like that's fine, but.
On the bleachers are not not bleachers are not built for
comfort for anybody. No.
And then add chronic pain to that.
It's not a good time, but Jordan's going to be able to
make it so who he will be there.You'll be the representation of
the family. Correct.

(24:23):
So that's that's what's going tohappen today.
I I've been to every single one of his band things he's ever
done choir things he's ever done, except for this would be
the second one I've ever missed in two years.
So I say that's pretty fair. Most people's parents can't make
it to their events because they have to work and shit.

(24:43):
So I feel like he'll he'll be OK.
One parent is going to be there.He'll be OK.
And as someone, as someone who was a band kid and sometimes
didn't have both parents there 'cause like my dad was a truck
driver. So sometimes he doesn't work it,
it they, they might be a little,might be, might be a little
upset, but he'll get over it. Like I, I don't, I don't feel

(25:05):
like I don't feel emotionally scarred because my dad missed my
8th grade concert or whatever. It's like.
Yeah, and he has an entire, you know what?
Probably five more years of this.
I'm sure he's going to continue to play through high school, so
I have plenty of time to catch these things.

(25:27):
But anyway, God, we're squirreling today.
I know. Like my medication hasn't kicked
in. I took it, I took it.
I had minutes before we started.I'm like I should have taken
this earlier. Yeah, and I got caffeine like 10
minutes before we started. So that's, listen, it's OK, This
is just a catch up episode. We're just trying to, you know,
do the indigo Montoya. Let me explain of it.

(25:48):
All right now, but it's it's. Kind of like it's kind of like
the scene in like The Dark Knight.
Sorry, this is like it's not very niche, but it's kind of
like it just popped in my brain.It's it's kind of like anytime
someone wants to like sheepishlyexplain something, it's it's
like when after Harvey Dent getsin the is in the hospital and
the Joker shows up as the nurse and he takes off his mask and he

(26:10):
goes, hi, That's how I feel. I feel like it's kind of like
showing up somewhere after. Like it's like, it's like when
you ghost someone and then all of a sudden you text them.
You're like, hey. Yeah, so sorry, it's been 3
months since I thought I repliedto your text.
That's, that's basically like atleast once a week, Nikki and I

(26:32):
will be like, hey, sorry, I thought I replied to this 'cause
we'll like, we'll read it. And sometimes, and I know I
can't be the only one, so I don't feel very bad about this,
but like I'll read someone's message, like just anyone's
message. And I'll be like, I don't have
like especially like if I can't tell what it says in the preview
of the message, like I don't know the gist of what they're
talking about, I'll read it and be like, uh huh.

(26:55):
And then Mark is unread. I'll come back to it in a
different head space. I don't have the mental energy
to reply to that right now. And then, but then I'll, I'll
reply to my head and then completely forget about it.
And I'm like, oh shit, that was eight hours ago.
And I also one of those people that I'm just bad at like the

(27:16):
whole social media thing, which is why like the whole social
media thing for the show, I'm like, I'll create the memes and
stuff, but I, I just can't. Like I never post on my own
page. Like if you look at my, if you
looked at my, if you were on my friends list, 'cause I don't
have my most of my things public, but if you were on my
friends list, I probably post like once every few months.

(27:39):
Like on average probably like four months.
I think I have like AI have likealmost like a quarterly,
quarterly posting schedule on myown personal, like I'm on
Facebook all the time because like I like scrolling and seeing
the means and the videos and stuff.
But like my own personal Facebook, I just don't, I don't
do Instagram, I don't do Tiktok.I don't like, I'm, I'm, I'm

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almost like a boomer when it comes to that sort of stuff.
And I don't necessarily feel badabout it because it, it's, I do
enjoy like seeing other people'sposts.
It's more like I just don't haveto me.
Like social media takes out spoons.
Like we talked about the conceptof spoons.
It's the whole, like most of thetime my, my social interaction

(28:23):
like like amount of spoons that I have is very low compared to
like other things. It's kind of like like last week
we did that game day with Ray and Micah and that was great.
But then I thought then like thenext couple days and this is not
anything against them and and they always really understand
after that. I just like, I just kind of like
vegged out like I did not touch my phone like for hours and

(28:46):
hours like that weekend. You and I didn't even talk for
like 2. Days, yeah.
I don't think we talked for two days because it's like, because
as much as I enjoyed, like I washaving so much fun, like we
played for hours. Like it was great and we talked
for a couple hours and it was fantastic.
I had a lot, got a lot of a goodtime.
It's just after that I'm just like, it's kind of like
laughing. It's like stone face.

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Yeah. It's like all of a sudden, like
the social battery is just depleted.
Gone and it in the moment we don't realize that it's dropping
the way it's dropping because we're having fun, right?
Like we're having fun. It's it's good.
And then we log off and then like 5 minutes goes by and
you're like, oh, it's no. Kind of like when it's like you

(29:31):
see like those memes or like when, when like you have when
you have to human or like when acustomer service person like as
soon as like the customer goes away and like, like the, the
smile immediately drops and you're just like, I don't want
like in the moment. You were like, OK, this is not a
bad interaction. This is fine.
And then it it it's it's sometimes it's funny.

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It's it's so funny when you're like, like when I go to Scott's,
sometimes I'll be at his house for hours and then all of a
sudden like, especially like we hang out with Zach and Granger
and I just sometimes, like in the middle of us hanging out,
I'll just hit a wall. I'll just be like in my head,
I'll be like, I wanna go home. I wanna go home.
I, I don't, I don't wanna do this anymore.

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Even though I'm like, I'm havinga good time.
It's just all of a sudden, like it's just, it's like running
face first into a brick wall at like 60 miles an hour.
Yeah. And it just hits you.
You're like, well, there it goes.
All the dopamine I had in my body, right?
And it's like I said, nothing against any of our friends or
anything. No, it's, it's, it's a, it's a
US problem. We get it.

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It's high. It's me.
I'm, I'm the problem. It's me, OK.
Right. Yeah, but anyway, we squirreled
so fucking hard. OK, back on topic, back on
topic, our our new structure forthe show.
OK, that we're gonna start to sort of operate in.
We have decided that we do want to keep the learn along with

(30:58):
me's in here because we enjoy them.
However, I have been feeling like a we're not spending enough
time researching the thing, right?
Like we're doing the best we can, but we're not really
researching the thing. And some of these things get so
nuanced and they're conditions that we do not have or things

(31:21):
that we do not experience. So we don't want to give off the
wrong impression of these things.
We want to make sure that we're always approaching these topics,
you know, from an amateur standpoint, which I feel like we
try very hard to make clear every time.
But no matter how good the intention is, sometimes you can

(31:43):
still, you know, the, the conversation can go left
unnecessarily, right? So we want to try to stick to
the conditions instead of like neurodiversity as a whole,
right, which we will be talking about.
But like we want to stick to more of like the comorbid
conditions with autism and ADHD.So like, instead of branching

(32:07):
way out in left field for anything that could be
considered neurodiversity, we'regoing to try to stick to
comorbidities, at least for thisseason.
OK. At least for this season, Yeah.
So for for Season 3 of the show,'cause that's what this is,
right? It's a season 3 of the show,
right? Season 3 or Season 2?
Help me Season 2. Well, when we started it was

(32:28):
Season 1 and then last year we started Season 2 and this right,
so now we're starting Season 3. Right, I figured OK, just
checking 'cause I I keep gettingthings.
That's how time and math. Works.
Yeah, yeah. I was like, wait, that's right,
right. Yeah, 'cause I was like, wait,
it's not our three-year, it's our two year, but it's season 3,
right? That's right.
OK, so for season 3 of the show,we are going to stick to when we

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do learn along with these, we'regoing to stick to comorbidities
of ADHD and autism. OK, So we're going to sort of
have like a four week rotation, so starting on the 8th.
So you're actually going to get 2 episodes this week, you're
going to get this one and then our normal Thursday.
So Thursday we're going to kick it off with a comorbidity.

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Learn along with me. Topic TBD Topic.
TBD we're not sure yet. It's and the thing about this is
we are going to take turns show running those episodes.
So one week Amanda will be researching and show running the
episodes and then one week, the next time we do a comorbidity, I

(33:36):
will be show running and researching that episode.
So that's how we're going to do it.
So your first comorbidity episode will be on this upcoming
Thursday that you're listening to this May 8th, which is my
grandpa's birthday. Nice.
Yeah, and then I feel like I know Micah's birthday is coming

(33:58):
up. Yeah, theirs is the 10th.
Is it the 10th? Yeah, because they wanted to.
Do they want to do our next gameday on the 9th or the 11th?
Because theirs is the 10th. OK, yeah, so we will make sure
to give them a birthday shout out on Thursday.
Don't let me forget. We need to put that in the
episode. Birthday shout out, I have a
post it note right here. Well, here I'm actually in the

(34:19):
in the document Micah birthday shout out.
OK I keep a thing of post it notes.
I keep post it note things like everywhere.
I have one in my car where if I need to think of something cuz I
can write while I'm driving while I'm not looking.
And so I'll just write hastily cuz if I wait till I get

(34:40):
somewhere it'll be gone. It'll be gone.
Yeah, but that's another reason why I love this little thing.
Because we have boxes and placesto put links and sources.
And she's a genius. I'm telling you, she's a genius.
This is perfect for me. It's almost like a job.
It's almost like a big spreadsheets as a job.
And like I, I even this is how like like I'm not an expert in
Excel and this is going to be another squirrel moment, sorry.

(35:02):
And so I'm not like an expert inExcel by any means.
Like I don't know how to do the,I know the basic shit and stuff
like in Google that's beyond like, that's beyond like coding,
right. Yeah, like, but I even like a a
few years ago and I, I think I could talk about this a couple
times. I did like a year, like my year,
New Year's resolution was I wanted to watch all these

(35:25):
movies, like these high rated movies like IMDB's top 250, like
the American Film Institute's top 100 movies.
Like I wanted to like watch thembecause there's just a lot of
like classic movies I hadn't watched.
I created myself for fun an Excel spreadsheet of all the
movies where it had like the name of the movie, the country,

(35:47):
like the movies from because like a lot of them were
international movies the year itwas made and like the director
and everything. Because I also want to see like,
like I think Stanley Kubrick's name was on there the most.
Like he had like there's 9 movies of his I watched.
And so I think I watched them nearly every single Stanley
Kubrick movie. And, and so I think it was like,

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I want to say 267 movies that year that I watched, which is
less than A1A day, but there were some days where I watched
like 3 and then like I, there was like a whole month where I
didn't watch any because I was just like, I'm done.
But I'm like, no, I got to finish.
I'm fucking finished. I just got to look at the excel.
And so I made like the Excel spreadsheet and at the end I
like rated them like the top 50.At least I did like the top 50

(36:33):
movies at the end of the year. Like so I love like Excel
spreadsheets. It's like excel is fucking
annoying to use because it just breaks unexplainably like like
for expensive reasons for sometimes, but it's also like
it's the whole tism. I love order and everything and
so like I like like it's so partof my job was I made, I'd

(36:57):
made-up reports and so I made a lot of spreadsheets and even
like I Co workers are like this is a great spreadsheet.
Like I had people like asked, like he teach you how to use
excel. I'm like, you don't want me to
teach you. I just Google shit.
Like I, I can't make a tutorial because like I Google like I had
like I even showed Nikki and Scott like I had like a notepad
like a, like a, a notepad like on Windows, like a notepad of

(37:22):
like formulas for my spreadsheets that I figured out
from Google or figure out for myself.
So it's like, it's just one of those things I like doing.
So Nikki's like I just need somesort of template.
I'm like say, say less, say less.
I got you, I got you. So we kind of just like we
wanted to know like the types ofepisodes, like the topic.

(37:44):
And so I made spaces for links. I did drop down menus to where
we can change the name of whoever's in charge because like
we are going to have like a schedule of like these are type
of episodes we're doing. But we might change it up to
like who's running it. We're like, we might not always
do like me, you, me, you, me, you.
Because it's like some, some sometimes the other person just

(38:07):
doesn't want to fucking do it. Yeah.
Or and then and then somehow. Functioning issues take place.
Yeah, the other person that's like, I know it's your turn, but
I really want to talk about thistopic.
I'd be like, you go ahead, you go ahead.
It's fine. That's why I did like the drop
down menus with her name. Like it says like Amanda, Nikki
or both. Like if we're both in charge of
an episode, so I don't have the the spreadsheet open.

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What were the topics? Like the type, like the types of
episodes, and like the just likethe fun and fuckery has portions
too. Yeah, yeah.
So and and the fun and fuckery Ifeel like is pretty solid at
this point, but that. Also made me move around 'cause
I couldn't like, yeah, one of them I was like, I don't
remember. I was like, we discussed what

(38:50):
the other type would be, but I can't remember.
So I put question mark as like aplaceholder.
For what? I think we might just do Mad
Libs twice a month. I think that's fair.
Yeah, and there's a lot of mad libs in each book.
We we did pick out our new mad Lib.
I need to buy it but we did pickout our new mad Lib so.
Well what did you decide on because I don't remember what

(39:11):
which one you picked. I sent you 2 and I said pick
one. I yeah, and I said the Unicorn
10. That's right.
Yeah. OK.
That way we're not doing 2 pops.We're doing, yeah, pop culture
back and back-to-back. It was between Star Wars and
unicorns and mermaids. And mermaids and like, it was
like mermaids, unicorns. I was like, I was like, I'd want
to eventually do the Star Wars 1.
And I, I mean, I'd be perfect because you know, Star Wars day,

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but it's, it's more of the fact of like we just did Golden Girls
1. So I kind of like I was like,
let's get away from the pop culture one.
I love pop culture, like let's go with my culture one and then
we'll do a Star Wars one later. And plus, obviously not everyone
likes Star Wars. So and so they I don't know, I
don't know how like like how lore heavy that they are because

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they can, they can be funny likemad, like mad libs, I think can
be funny in any situation matterlike what the theme is.
But and also like we can, we don't necessarily have to always
get like mad Lib books, like we're kind of just doing them
because like. It's just easy.
Like it's something, it's like a$4.00 item we could both buy and
both have on hand. And so, but there's also like

(40:15):
Mad Libs online and stuff. So yeah, we stopped, we were
like, we're stopped doing Mad Libs because like that's another
thing. Like I was thinking of words
like we're both like I would think of like I'm not good
thinking words on the spot. So we started doing like the
whole, we'll just think of wordslike before.
But then it got to the point, like I was thinking of words
like like literally the 2nd until we're recording.

(40:36):
And so just trying to think of like unique words, different
words and like funny words to where it's like, it might make
sense, not necessarily it might make sense, but more it's, it
could be funny no matter what the prompt is.
And so that's it's difficult with until you get.
So that's that's why I think I've never been good of improv.
Like the fact that we're doing apodcast is a miracle in of

(40:59):
itself because I've never been going to improv anything.
That's why I don't like doing like role-playing stuff like
that. It's like I'm just not good at
it. But so Mad Libs and the other
ones were. We're going to pull.
We still like our question cards.
I feel like those are fun. And then we had like a, a
potpourri category. So like, it could be a funny

(41:23):
thing we found on the Internet. It could be, it could be
literally anything. Like literally anything funny.
I got the idea from. Jeopardy.
I don't know if Jeopardy still does this, but they used to have
like category called like when, when they're listing like the
questions or the answers, they would have a category of
potpourri, which was like a anything goes type of thing.
So that's that. We could just be like, that's us

(41:44):
shooting the shit, like catchingup, like, oh, let me tell you
this funny story. If that happened to me or hey,
did you see this video? Let's talk about this video.
We did. We did.
That has nothing really to do with the the topic that we're
talking about. It's something like it's it's
not a set like set in stone thing that we got to talk about
it just be asked like it gets, even if BS be like we don't want

(42:06):
to fucking talk anymore. Bye, right?
So yeah, so we have fun and fuckery options each week and
then the types of episodes. So these are gonna be pretty set
in stone. Like we're this order anyway is
set. I feel like it's pretty set in
stone because if it's not, then we don't have a structure.

(42:26):
So like, there's no point doing this.
We're gonna be set in stone, butnecessarily not Who's like.
Doing it, not who's doing it like right if like if.
Two of us like the like the comorbidity.
It's like, well, I, I was like, I was researching this one
Corbidity and I found this othercorbidity and it's like, I kind
of want to talk about it 'cause I, I kind of, they kind of like
a whole Venn diagram. And so I have, I have the a lot

(42:48):
of the research for this other Corbidity and then yeah, so like
someone could do like 2 episodesin a row if they wanted to.
So that'll be what sort of kicksit off, right?
Is that comorbidity episode, right?
We're going to do a learn along with me.
Then the next, the next time youhear from us.
So the week after that, we're going to talk about
neurodiversity in the media. So this could be in like the

(43:12):
news, it on ATV show, in a movie, whatever, right?
Like in some publication we found somewhere.
So any media source that's talking about neurodiversity or
where we feel like there might be neurodiverse coded characters
and. I have one in mind, we have in
mind and I literally just watched, I just watched a show

(43:33):
this weekend that had a even my mom, like I was watching with my
mom. Even my mom was like, I mean, I
kind of mentioned that like, this character's autistic and
like later my mom's like, yeah, he's definitely.
Yeah, like obviously not every one of these characters in these
shows will be outwardly coded orby the the the people who

(43:54):
created the show saying that these characters are autistic.
We're just kind. Of like, it's kind of like our
gaydar like. Our artismdar is going.
On and I kind of I kind of likened it to how a lot of times
like Scar and Jafar like the Disney villains are queer coded.
I've seen articles about them like how they're queer coded and

(44:15):
everything and and how it's sometimes a problem because
they're the villains and so a lot of like a lot of times like
the slimy villain is very queer coded and so that's a whole
other topic. So it it's kind of like these
are characters it's and we're not talking about like Sheldon
Big Bang Theory, even though they always like like joked like
we don't know what he is like the the creators, I think never

(44:38):
really outright said what he was, but it's very obvious
they're making him like autisticand stuff.
So and, and, and we're not talking, we're not talking
either like bad or good representation.
It's just more of like people that we feel are like maybe
autistic or ADHD to maybe just not necessarily autistic, but

(44:59):
like and like. Someone what?
Things like? What's the intent?
It wasn't the intention of the creator to make the person this
way. We're not talking about Maddie.
What's her face in Maddie Ziegler?
Maddie Ziegler. I didn't think of her last name.
I was like, not Maddie singer Maddie Ziegler in music and
stuff. So we're not talking about like

(45:21):
outwardly like this character isdefinitely because that's what
they said in the movie or the show.
So like, do you want to say who our first person is or do we can
like, tease it? It has to go with Star Wars.
It has to do with Star Wars, butwe'll we'll just let it.
We'll get into it on the 15th. We'll get into it on 15th.
It's someone that we watched like if you wanted to, you guys

(45:43):
want to take a guess, It's someone that we watched in one
of the show. Like it was someone in one of
the shows we watched. So like, if you were watching
it, I said, like, Nikki was likethis.
Are you reading this person as autistic?
I'm like, yeah, yeah. Like it was, it was big Toism
vibes. Yeah.
So yeah. So that's kinda, we feel like
that's gonna be fun. That's gonna bring a little bit

(46:05):
of fun to the show talking aboutthat and then.
It's like like media that we like.
It's like it's, it's different stuff that we've seen.
Yeah, and then following that, the week after that, we're gonna
talk, we're gonna info dump, we're gonna seagull meme at you.
So we so much squirreling, so much squirreling, so much info

(46:27):
dumping. And that will be we're going to
switch off on that each time. So like if I seagull meme one
cycle, she's seagull memeing thenext cycle.
OK. And it is for us to share our
special interests, right? And like things that we're in

(46:48):
either. Past special interests, like
something that we've always beeninterested in or something that
I just rabbit holed in YouTube and watched all videos of this
one topic and let me tell you all about it.
Yeah, it basically is our own license to tis them all over the
place, right? Like we could just it's Seagull.
Me, it's kind of like how your kids will be like, Mom, can I

(47:09):
show you this Minecraft thing and let me tell you everything
about Minecraft. Let me tell you everything about
Lego. Let me tell you it's kind of
like we're going up to our mom and be like and the mom's like,
uh huh, that's nice, dear. Yes, yes.
Even if the whole episode you'relike, wow, that's really cute
and you don't give a fuck about the things that you're going to
be hearing about. I I don't know about you, but
the reason why I feel like this is relevant is I love, much like

(47:32):
you, like to watch people's reactions, watching something
you enjoy, you like to watch their reaction to it.
I love to hear people talk aboutthings they love.
There is nothing more captivating to me than listening
to someone. Pour their little special
interest out to you It's also it's also like they're showing

(47:54):
you know they're they're what's the term like showing you their
sleeve or they're wearing the heart on their sleeve they're
wearing their heart on their sleeve.
So it's kind of like you, like you are, you are a person.
They feel comfortable enough. Yeah.
To show a little bit about it themselves.
They might not show other peopleother people, right.

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Like how your husband Jordan, like there's sometimes where
where like especially like that one, like when you were in the
hospital last year, like he just, we like after we both like
after we both got back or after 'cause he was already back from
the hospital. I came back to your house and it
was like 1010 thirty or something like that.
And we probably talked for like an hour, hour and a half.

(48:39):
And like mostly Jordan, as you know, we talked like how like
the movies and stuff like his like alien stuff, his like the
types of that he likes. And it was good to like, I like
seeing him like talk about that sort of stuff was like very
endearing because it's like, especially because obviously he
was very stressed out. And so I think that was the way

(48:59):
for him to vent. But yeah, I also love like
obviously like sometimes I do get annoyed because it's like I
don't have it's kind of like a it's part of the social aspect.
It's like, I don't, I would loveto hear your special interest
right now, but I don't have the mental energy to receive what
you're saying without. And I don't, I don't have the
mental energy to keep up the mask of, of looking interested,

(49:22):
you know, in my brain. It's like, I am interested.
I want to hear it, but I, my, the face doesn't match the
thought right now. And so, and I, and I'm one of
those people that's like, I'm not one of those unaware.
Like I can tell when someone gets bored.
It's like it's, it's kind of like I have a two-part problem.
I can tell when someone gets bored, but my brain won't stop

(49:45):
talking about the thing. Yeah, I know it's boring them.
So we might talk about most mundane things like, and, and I
will say some of this stuff 'cause like I might talk about
like Marvel stuff, our Star Warsstuff.
I am by no means an expert in any of these things.
I am not like a comic book reader.
I am not like, like I said, I haven't read like Star Wars
novels. I like if this is just an

(50:07):
example, like if I, if one of myinfo dumpsters like Marvel, like
a pop culture thing, I'm gonna get some shit wrong because it's
like it's, it's, it's something that's like, I might love this
thing, Like and like, or even this is any subject really.
I might love this thing so much.That does not mean I'm an expert
in it. I'm just telling you about this
thing that I know about or love or have currently have an
interest in, but I'm not gonna get everything right about this

(50:29):
subject. Yeah, so like my on the 22nd,
it's my turn. I'm going first with the info
dump and like. My goal is to like info dump
about the thing, but then also like tell you about like why I
feel like it's an important partof like my personal expression

(50:52):
of like being a neuro divergent person, right?
Like things like that. So like we'll try to tie it back
to like neurodiversity in a way,but sometimes it won't even
always, it won't have that correlation.
So it's just a chance for you guys to get to know us a little
bit better, for us to share somethings that we really enjoy with
you, maybe add a little bit of insight to like why we like
these things, stuff like that, right?

(51:14):
It's just info dump time. And if you don't know about the
thing, like, maybe it'd be something, yeah.
Maybe it's something you end up being interested in because I
love to learn things from other people because then I end up
might be interested in that thing.
If you don't like it, that's a good one to skip.
You know, it'd get free license to skip those if you need to.
But it's I feel like it'll be fun.
It'll be another little fun addition to the show and then

(51:37):
the next and final like fourth thing in the cycle.
So it's like a four week cycle, right?
So week four of the cycle is a big question mark thing.
My goal, I was like I. Was like, I don't remember what
we said, what it was. Yeah.
So my goal, right, is to have asmany guests on the show as we

(52:01):
possibly can get, but we're not always going to be able to do
that. So I'm really going to start
reaching out to people this year.
I want to be able to get more people's perspectives on the
show, maybe have some return guests, things like that.
So like I want to schedule guestspots.

(52:24):
And so we're not saying like this is gonna be like, oh, every
month we're gonna like every four weeks we're gonna have a
guest because like that's, that's just not feasible.
We're not, we're not a big podcast.
We're not so long that has like a bunch of people.
We're not Joe Rogan, right? We don't have a manager
searching for this stuff for us,right, Seeking this stuff out.
This is stuff that we would haveto do on our own so that when we

(52:45):
have a guest, that's where thosewill fall, right?
Otherwise, it'll be like if we need to do a state of the pod or
if we need have something going on that we want to talk about.
It's like another potpourri thing.
Kind of, yeah. So it might be just something
interesting we learned that we want to further talk about or

(53:06):
the comorbidity episode might ormaybe.
Even update like, yeah, maybe even update of like this is like
a Part 2 of this, right? Other thing.
Like, it's like, oh, remember when we talked about like,
empathy, like one of our episodes?
It was like one of our very first episodes when we were
talking about empathy, Like, whydon't we just go back on that?
And yeah, why don't we elaboratefurther on that episode?
So it gives us a little bit of creative license to like leave a

(53:28):
guest spot space, but also be able to revisit old episodes or
talk about current events or 'cause I feel like current
events, we just unfortunately can't avoid them right now.
You. Know like everyone like
obviously either if you're not in the US and you don't know who
like like 'cause we're gonna be very US centric because.

(53:50):
That's where we are. Americans, so I try to like know
more about the world, but unfortunately we just, we're
very US centric. So it's, it's like, I understand
cuz like not to like call them out like rain Mica.
We're like, well we cuz we, we've asked Rain Mica like their
thoughts cuz they're the people that listen to our show the

(54:12):
longest. Yeah, we value their opinion
greatly. We, we asked them, we're like,
we're generally wondering like, which episodes do you like more
like? And they, they said they didn't
really care that much or like didn't really gravitate as much
towards the ones about like our like politicians are, are like
politics because obviously they're in Denmark.
They like, why, why the fuck would they care?

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You know, they didn't say that obviously, but like, it's kind
of like, I don't know, the politics and whatever of
Denmark, like, like I'm sure, I think there's a monarchy in
Denmark. I couldn't tell you who they
are. So and that sort of thing, Like
I still forget that King, it's King Charles now in the UK.
So that's the closest we got. But so we'll try to keep like,

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we'll talk about current events in, in the sense of like my
thing right now is like, I don'tknow if this will be like a like
a topic, but it's, it's kind of like, it's kind of like right
now, like how RFK wants to create like an autism database.
Like he wants to pull everyone'spersonal medical records,

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private medical records to and like people who are diagnosed
autistic to find out why. Like to find out like, and, and
basically they want to create database.
It's it's very not not to be hyperbolic.
It's very fascist. It's very eugenics.
It's. Very breaking HIPAA violations.

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You can't be doing all that shitand.
So like I understand the government has like a bunch of
access to our data. Sorry, I'm not trying to like be
a squirrel. It's just it's like, that's an
example of like it's a, it's AUScurrent event, but it's so
related to neurodiversity 'causeit's like it would affect.
But maybe not always US current events, 'cause there could be
things going on in other countries that we're like, Oh my
God, this is so cool. We need to talk about this.

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This is look at this thing that they're doing this country to
help autism. Yeah, look at this.
Right, right. Research shit like that.
So it just more of like things that we want to talk more about,
right? So just to recap, because
there's a lot of squirrel moments, let's quickly recap,
OK, Lots of squirrels. So four week cycle, we're going

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to have a learn along with me which will deal with a
comorbidity of autism and ADHD, right?
Then the next week of the cycle will be neurodiversity in the
media, which is just characters and shows that we think are
autistically coded, whether it'sbeen explicitly stated or not.
Things in the media in general about autism, whatever, right?

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But not the news. We're not talking, not the news.
OK, not the news. Then the week after that.
So week 3 of the cycle is info dump time and we will take turns
on on that info dumping and seagull memeing at you about our
favorite things. And then the 4th week of the
cycle will be guest spot slash current events slash whatever

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else we need it to be. OK.
And then as far as the fun and fuckery schedule goes, because
we don't want to do Mad Libs every single week anymore, it
gets, I think it gets old and repetitive And I we're just, we
don't want to do it. So we want to keep them though,
because we love them and they'refun and it's lore at this point,
so we can't get rid of them. So Mad libs or fun and fuckery

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schedule is we're going to startthe four week cycle with a mad
Lib. Then we're going to have a
question for fun and fuckery thenext week.
Then the next week is going to be a whatever we decide to talk
about because that's kind of ourinfo dump thing.
So we may even skip fun and fuckery that week just depending
on how long the info dump goes. And then the 4th week of the

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cycle with our current events and things like that will be
another Mad Libs. So they'll be Mad Libs 2 * a
month essentially, or every twice every four weeks
basically. So we are that.
That's what we're doing. That's the new structure of the
show for season 3. So hopefully that gives us some

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guardrails to operate within, right?
It will allow us to not feel so dishevelled and what am I just
trying to say, disorganized around.
It gives us like a North Star. Yeah, it's a North Star to five.
Yeah. So that we're not constantly

(58:36):
trying to think on the fly of what to do or I don't know about
you, but when I'm like, I need to find something to talk about
and then I try to go research and look for things to talk
about. I have a block and I can't do
it. So it's like if I have a genre
in which to like or, or a a way,like you said, like a North Star
to start at or place just a direction to go in, it's much

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easier for me to come up with topics that way.
So that's what we're going to do.
And as far as social media goes,we have a, a schedule for that
as well. It's less.
I feel like that's less important, but we do want to
start showing up on social mediaa little bit more.
I want to start tailoring the posts to the episode for the

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week so that it makes more sensewhy we're posting things on
social media. And it's calling people more
back to the show, which is the point of social media, to both
establish a community around theshow as well as pull people from
social media to the show, establish awareness of the show,

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right? So that's the point.
So we're going to try to focus alittle bit more on that.
And to be very honest with you, I'm quite excited about this.
I'm excited to give this a try. I think it's going to be a bit
of a revival that we needed for the show.
I'm hoping that the analytics prove that this is going to

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work. But if not.
That's what we can change for Yay.
Change is great, right? It's also like we are doing this
for fun. Like, yes, we would like to see
some like obviously we'd like tosee growth and like not as like
this, this sounds about like some returns or whatever, but
it's, it's, it's like 'cause like it's like we are doing this

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for fun, but it's also like we wouldn't mind.
Some. Some like other benefits to come
from it. Right.
I mean, even in our absence, we have grown.
I mean, we're up to 94 Spotify followers now, so I love that.
That's quite the jump. So I'm happy about that.

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And we have breached 3000 total all platform plays.
So we are at 3172 for total all platform plays.
So I'm happy with that. I feel like breaching 3000
before, you know, in two years is great for two absolute

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nobodies who started a show. It's.
Actually like 2 up for nobodies who aren't like out there
promoting our like the hell, butlike we aren't going other shows
like promoting right. We've been on like like Steven
Nick's show, Yeah. We aren't like we aren't like
promoting the hell like we aren't trying as hard as we
could, but like we would be Sprint out so much faster if we.

(01:01:24):
Yeah, it's not. This is not a fucking Sprint.
This is a marathon, OK? We've said this a million times
and we always reserve the right to change things and sit down
and take a break as we need to. And like we also reserve the
right to take our ball and go home.
Right, exactly. Which is why I'm actually like,
would I love a sponsor? Sure, at some point.

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But with sponsors comes obligations and deliverables and
contracts and responsibilities, right?
So like, it's something we have to be prepared to do.
It's not just like, yeah, we have a sponsor.
Yay. No, there's like shit you have
to do. And if you can't just go take a
break. If you're in contract and have
to have so many, you know, playsper episode for this specific

(01:02:10):
ad, you know, it's a thing. It's it comes with its own ball
and chain, you know, So as long as we're only working for
ourselves, we get to make the rules.
So that's what we're doing. We're making the rules as we go.
So that's kind of what it is. I feel like we've probably
squirreled and babbled and whatever all over them for the

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last hour. Enough.
I'm so happy to start Season 3 of the show.
I am going to be going back through Spotify and actually
season numbering everything because I feel like that's just
going to be a better way to organize shit as well within the
show. So I'm going to number all the
seasons and get everything put the way it's supposed to go, and

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I will start making sure that Season 3 is included in all the
episodes going forward so you guys know where you're at.
And we know where we're at. And it's all very organized and
pretty, which we love. So, yeah, that's a thing that
we're gonna do. All right.
Lee, do we have? Oh, oh, oh, big yarn.

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Holy Lord. OK so I think we decided for fun
and fuckery we have a little of a Jeremy update for you.
So if you have been around for along time and remember Jeremy
the psychic cat from our AI stories we used to do, I wanted

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to give a small Jeremy update onthe other side of the fun and
fuckery. So if you're here for that,
great, stick around. If not, this is your time to
click off. We've thank you for listening
thus far. But the fun and fuckery portion
will be a Jeremy update, so let's hit it.

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All right, so we've made it to the other side.
If you're still here, thank you and you're in for a treat.
Don't Jeremy treat as you might have heard in the previous
episodes, Jeremy obviously has fallen off right?

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We just sort of abruptly ended the fucking storyline and when I
started playing Sims, I decided we were going to continue Jeremy
storyline through by Sims characters.
So OK, I found the picture. OK, so we have sympathy, Binky
Finnegan and the Grey House, which currently has two kids.

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And then she did end up having athird baby of which I don't
remember what I fucking named him.
And we'll figure it out at some point, but I will, I will, we'll
figure it out. I'll do this on the next, I'll
give you a better one on the next one.
But anyway, I think so far, aside from constantly making
sure Velvet is pregnant, yes, I am having the most fun with

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Finnegan. Finnegan is a hoe, OK, He he is
a hoe and Finnegan is a tech bro.
So think like Bruce Wayne. He's got a bazillion fucking
dollars, right? But he, he's definitely

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pansexual, OK? He don't give a book he's dead.
He's what you look like. He's Deadpool.
Deadpool's pansexual and like, he's not secret agent but he's
like a superhero. Right.
So he's basically Deadpool, right?
He's Deadpool meets Bruce Wayne,meets tech bro.
OK, He's to the point to where Icreated his house to where he

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has his entire bedroom floor is locked so no one can go up
there. Like it's blocked off with like
the secret bookcase door and everything.
And I have it all locked down towhere like only he can get
through the door. And when you go up to his
bedroom, it's like all black in there.
It's just it looks like a what you think a bachelor tech Bros
bedroom would look like, right? But so he's a tech bro and his

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favorite thing to do. You can always find this mother
fucker at the bar. OK, He's always at the bar.
He's hitting on literally everybody.
He's hit on Jeremy, he's hit on velvet, he's hit on pinky, he's
hit on sympathy, he's hit on allthe other NPCS.
Like he don't give a fuck, like obviously Velvet and Jeremy are
married right? But he don't give a shit.

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But I made it to where they finally became best friends
Finnegan and Jeremy. But I had to make Binky and
Finnegan best friends first cuz remember they came as a pair to
start with. So I had to really work on that
relationship for quite some time.
But as far as I know Finnegan will probably never be in a
relationship. I don't think I will ever commit

(01:07:12):
him to anything. He's got commitment issues.
He's down to fuck. He's DTF, but he is not going to
be in a committed relationship. Binky got himself a girlfriend.
I think Sympathy currently has agirlfriend, unless she broke up
with her, but I don't remember. No, I think she's, I think she
still has a girlfriend. Yeah, she's a girlfriend.

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Binky has a girlfriend. Oh, Binky has his girlfriend to
move in. That's I, I had the girlfriend
move in. So things are moving quickly
with Binky and the girlfriend. They're probably going to end up
getting married. And then we just got to work on
Sympathy and her storyline a little bit, because I think
she's the one I played with the least.
Yeah, she is. She's the storyline I've played
with the absolute least, which tracks because I feel like

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Sympathy was always kind of like.
The forgotten character in the story, she sometimes would show
up and like have like holding a sword or whatever and then like
passing out and just. Just like random fucking shit in
the story, right? I feel like it definitely
tracked more along the lines of Jeremy and Velvet's storyline.
And then I remember, remember when she got all jealous of

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Jeremy and Velvet for a little while?
Yeah, that was a thing. Yeah.
So I think I'm going to start playing Sims more.
I've been so wrapped up in Dreamland Valley.
Like so wrapped up. She's.
Like let me show like, and I love like seeing her dream
because I had never played Jeremy Valley.
I just seen like her play it andshe creates like really good
stuff. And so you were like, you really

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like creative games. I do I I like, I like, I like
the like the world building kindof games where you get to like
decorate and do shit. I did recently start posting.
I think I probably should jump on a Sims Reddit or or two and
just start like maybe doing something with that because I've

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been on Dreamland Valley Reddit lately and I'm in one a discord
server for one of the channels that I watch on YouTube and it's
really cool to like see all the people posting all the things.
And that could be one of your dumps is Dreamite Valley, you
know? Oh, it's gonna be, don't you
fucking worry, it's gonna be. I might even change my topic, my

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first topic to be Dreamite Valley, but I haven't decided
yet. Because it's especially since
that's what you're playing most right now.
But you can always, you can always switch it up.
You can always talk about the other thing that you want to
talk about. Yeah.
Whenever So I definitely I definitely want to start
bringing Jeremy back in and havelittle Jeremy updates, the story
of Jeremy Chronicles or Jeremy updates, but through the lens of

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The Sims and something that I don't know if we'll ever be able
to figure out how to do it or ifit will even ever make sense.
But it might be fun to like stream that on the gaming
channel or like play that together on the gaming channel.
Because we need to bring in, notonly do I need to finish

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establishing the other characters, but I need to bring
in the ancillary characters. So like Freya needs to come in
and then all of the like pirates, pirates need to come
in. So we need to get Ray and
Micah's character in there. So like we need to bring in all
the ancillaries at this point. So I feel like that would be a

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really fun thing to do like for the gaming channel.
So I don't know, but we'll see. But anyway, we're gonna continue
the Chronicles of Jeremy throughThe Sims cuz I feel like I got a
lot of joy doing that. And then I just sort of stopped
playing it cuz I started playingso much Streamlight Valley.
So that's the update. I think I've probably mentioned

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this once before and it was probably better detail the last
time. So I didn't feel bad, but like
we will have a much better update next episode.
So on Thursday I will I will, I will prepare the correct update
for Thursday. I will give girlfriend, I will,
I will make notes. I will put down the girlfriends

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names, I'll put down the kids names, I will put down their
jobs and all that good shit. So stay tuned for Thursday for
the proper update of Chronicles Jeremy via The Sims.
I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
I think. That's enough.
I think that's enough. Yep.
I think we done did that all over the place.

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So it's it's time to go. All right, we love you all.
Thank you for hanging in there with us during the sabbatical.
Thank you for continuing to follow the show.
If you have been listening for avery long time, we are excited
for season 3 of the NDC podcast and we are out.
We love you, goodbye. Goodbye.