June 17, 2025 • 38 mins
Have you ever felt that persistent gut feeling telling you there's something more meant for you than just clocking in at a job you don't enjoy? That's exactly what led Jordan from Ocean View to establish NHQ Slashing, a business that's now thriving in its specialised niche between large commercial operations and residential lawn care.
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Jordan's story isn't about an overnight success or a carefully mapped business school strategy. Instead, it's a refreshingly honest account of following intuition despite lacking formal business education or entrepreneurial family connections. "I was stuck in a job which I wasn't into for many, many years," Jordan shares, describing the gradual build-up of courage that eventually pushed him to make a change. His path to business ownership began with devouring podcasts and audiobooks, seeking wisdom from successful people while researching his industry thoroughly.
The turning point came when Jordan discovered Indigenous Business Australia (IBA), whose business courses and support made entrepreneurship feel accessible rather than intimidating. Their guidance through the business planning process and subsequent financial support proved crucial for someone without traditional business networks. As Jordan puts it, "I don't think there's a lot of banks that would be willing to invest their time into me as much as IBA has."
Perhaps the most valuable aspect of Jordan's candid conversation is his openness about the challenges—particularly burnout. His realization that "if you're just doing nothing but your business, even though you like it, you're going to get burnout" led to important lessons about maintaining connections and proper work-life balance. Now past the critical three-year mark where many businesses fail, Jordan is expanding his services and learning about contracts and tenders while never forgetting his core advice: "Life's short, give it a crack, follow your gut."
Ready to be inspired by a real entrepreneurial journey with all its ups, downs, and hard-won wisdom? Listen now and discover how Indigenous business ownership can transform not just livelihoods but lives.
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David (00:00):
From business to home ownership, from culture to
wellness.
We're having the realconversations.
This is the New DreamingPodcast, in partnership with IBA
Jordan.
Welcome to the podcast.
There you go.
It's good to be here.
Thanks for coming.
You just drove from down theroad, put it in neutral, rolled
(00:21):
down the hill One way to put ityeah, nice yeah.
Name where you it yeah, niceyeah.
Name where you're from and yourbusiness.
Let's delve right in.
Jordan (00:30):
My name's Jordan, from Ocean View, just up the road
from where we're filming now,and business is NHQ Slashing.
David (00:38):
Tell us a little bit about it and maybe how it
started the emergence of hey, Iwant to start my own business.
Jordan (00:46):
I do slashing services for rural, semi-rural acreage
and small acre areas, with moreof a focus on the semi-rural and
small acre part, becausebasically where I'm situated
there's not too many large,large farms left.
So yeah sort of going for thatsmaller area, smaller market.
I sort of fit in between thevery large slasher guys and all
(01:13):
of the moa men so I can do, yeah, a bit of a good little niche
spot I was about to say nichenow.
David (01:21):
Um, I'm sure with slashing there's machinery
involved.
Um, what slasher do you have?
Tell us about that.
I don't know much aboutslashing, so give us a rundown
of the equipment.
What's involved?
Jordan (01:34):
I run a kubota mx 5200, so that's 50 horsepower, and
behind that I'm pulling afive-foot slasher.
Yeah, it's not too bad, it'sactually really good.
Yeah, a good machine.
I'm really happy with thatchoice.
David (01:50):
Did you do this type of work when you were young?
Is this something you wereexposed to?
And then, as you got older, youthought, hey, maybe I'll do
this for a business.
Jordan (01:59):
Not really.
I've been in the gardening andlawn maintenance on and off
since I was sort of working ageI guess, but never as a proper
career path or anything likethat.
Yeah, I sort of came into thisbusiness later in life.
David (02:18):
Now, when you first decided to start that business,
can you take me back to that day, that month, that year, where
you were floating with that ideaof starting a business, and
what was that first step youtook to maybe registering the
business name?
Jordan (02:32):
There wasn't any one specific time or point where
this is it, this is what I'vegot to do.
It was sort of a slow build-up,pretty slow build-up.
I was stuck in a job which Iwasn't into for many, many years
, like a lot of other people,and sort of a gut feeling of
(02:59):
wanting to try something on myown and branch out and just give
it a go, basically.
But yeah, there's no onespecific point in time or
specific reason, just lots andlots of little ones building up.
David (03:17):
I think the reason is perfect.
You were stuck in somethingthat you didn't enjoy and wanted
something for yourself.
For anyone that's in thatposition, let's say they're in a
job right now.
They're not quite sure theydon't have anything they're
drawn to, they just know thatthey want to do something on
their own.
Do you have anything forsomeone out there?
Jordan (03:43):
listening that might be in a job right now.
That's like, yeah, I'm overthis.
If you've got a dream, or noteven even a dream, if you just
got like a gut feeling, reallypursue it, study it, research it
, I think it's probably the bestthing.
That's what I sort of did.
I just started to devourpodcasts and audio books for the
(04:06):
business part, but for theactual job itself, just a whole
heap of research, and I wasn'tbranching out into a completely
new field or territory oranything like that.
So that made things a loteasier to start.
And, yeah, I think, follow yourgut feeling, follow your dreams
(04:28):
.
If it's not in a job you like,get out.
David (04:33):
Life's short.
That's great advice.
Now you're a business owner.
You mentioned podcasts.
Were there any particularbusiness podcasts you were
consuming?
Jordan (04:42):
There was a few of them, business podcasts you were
consuming.
There was a few of them.
Mark Boris, I listen to him alot.
He's got several differentpodcasts, not all on the same
topic, which is good, so you canreally get into it.
And I sort of listen to peoplemore than just business podcasts
(05:06):
because I'd like certain people, successful people I just
wanted to know what makes themtick, why did they do it, and
just anything like it doesn'thave to be specifically into
business, but what did they doin their personal lives?
And that's where the audiobooks and podcasts really,
really of great value.
(05:27):
Yeah, no, I love podcasts.
David (05:32):
Part of the reason why I wanted to start something was,
again, you can talk to a guest.
You have no idea who they areand they just share something
that resonates with you, whetherit's about life, business, love
, pain.
Now, that gut feeling youtalked about that gut feeling.
Was that something you livedwith for a long time, or it sort
(05:53):
of came quickly and then youaddressed it?
Jordan (05:56):
Lived with for a long time, but I didn't know what to
do with it.
So I sort of just did whateveryone else does, or what I
thought everyone else does justdo a job, try to make money and
that's it.
Look for audiobooks and thepeople who I wanted to listen to
(06:23):
, to, where I've got more of anidea of this might actually be
possible sort of thing, becauseI didn't really think it was
that possible.
I didn't have the best time atschool.
I only enrolled into uni butnever actually managed to give
it a go, and it wasn't inbusiness management or anything
(06:45):
like that anyway.
So I didn't really know what todo, how to do it, and that's
again where the audiobooks camein.
Being able to listen to reallyinfluential people gives you
more of a drive, more of a yeah,I can do this.
David (07:04):
Yeah, you more of a drive , more of a yeah, I can do this.
Yeah, and you can consume it inyour own time, in private, in a
drive, while you're working.
You know, and I think podcastsand audio books have helped
shaped the way people consume.
Um, high school, where did yougo through high school?
Maybe those first 15 years ofyour life, your childhood.
(07:27):
If you mind sharing a littlebit about that school, maybe
sport, anything.
Jordan (07:32):
Yeah, I was born in Brisbane, rural Brisbane.
We actually lived in DarraJuicy Street.
Darra Juicy Street yeah, juicyStreet, and it was made famous
by the Netflix show recently.
Not so much the street butDarra itself is like that was
pretty cool to watch on TV.
But the family moved us up toOceanview.
(07:55):
When I was one and startedgrade one in Daburra State
School, finished there, went toColby College in Petrie and
while we were there they changedthe name to Mount Maria Senior,
but that school only goes tograde 10, and then you have to
find another high school afterthat and then I went to just
(08:18):
down the road, tuckabin StateHigh School and that was
basically it.
After that I tried to do theuni thing but it just wasn't for
me and sort of yeah, got intowork and it's been a pretty wild
(08:39):
ride since then.
David (08:40):
Now, when you're searching for exploring that gut
feeling, do you think that gutfeeling had anything to do with
just your place as a man, as abusiness owner, in society, or
uncertainty about the future?
Was it just something you'restill exploring now?
Jordan (09:05):
Still exploring so often .
I'm learning this about myself.
So often when I ignored the gutfeelings.
It doesn't matter in whatspecific way, shape or form, but
a lot of times if I wentagainst it, things didn't work
(09:28):
out the best.
I'm just realizing that.
And a lot of times when Ifollowed my gut feeling,
whatever the scenario, it workedout Not all the time, but yeah,
just noticing things like that.
So you've got a naturalintuition noticing things like
that.
So you've got a naturalintuition.
I don't know, I don't know howto describe that.
David (09:50):
When you first started the business.
Let's talk about how it gotstarted.
How did you first hear about?
Jordan (10:02):
IBA and talk me through that process.
I first started gettinginterested, getting ideas of
like, when I could see itbecoming a possibility that I
could do it.
I just went out and looked forbusiness courses.
Literally I didn't even knowIBA existed.
And then they came up and theyhad a little short course and
(10:26):
went into Brisbane City, did it,and it was just a very short
introduction, just sort ofgetting an understanding of
what's literally the first stepto do, and it was really
valuable.
It was only a very short littleintroduction but very valuable
(10:51):
for someone like me.
I don't come from a managementbackground, I've always been
just the barrow pusher, so tospeak, and it was good because
they made the big, unreachableideas seem reachable, smaller,
accessible, yeah, and very, verygood in directing my thoughts
(11:17):
in the right direction.
David (11:20):
Now you've gone to this course, one-day course, two-day
course, a few hours.
Jordan (11:24):
I think it was just a one day course.
I'm pretty sure.
David (11:27):
Yeah, you finished this course.
You got to the end of the day.
What happened then?
Jordan (11:33):
Sort of felt energised, to be honest, energised in
thinking that I am on the rightpath and I've got to do it.
I've got to pursue it.
That purpose, yeah.
David (11:51):
And was there a point of contact there that you had to
follow up?
Was it a call, an email?
What was the next step for youto get this business rolling?
Jordan (11:59):
That one little course was a pretty big impact.
I'd sort of forgotten whathappened after.
That little course was prettybig impact.
I sort of forgotten whathappened after that.
But the first step wasdefinitely the business
management plan.
Like IBA's got templates forthat and just literally start
putting pen to paper and do thatbusiness management plan and go
(12:23):
from there, hand it in to IBAand they'll tell you whether
it's you know.
This is right.
Clarify this, clarify that.
Are you sure about this?
Where did you get thisinformation from All that little
stuff?
David (12:40):
It's very important just to be supported Definitely,
definitely.
I find with mob and businessesit's hard to talk to someone
because I know for my family notmany of us, if any, had
businesses, so they had thatsupport Once you started to fill
(13:01):
out that management businessplan and you put it all on paper
.
Do you remember it being aquick process before you were
open for business?
Jordan (13:16):
No, no, it wasn't quick.
Nothing I really do is quickanyway, but that's okay, because
and if I rush things thenusually things don't work out,
so I'm much more suited totaking it slow.
Make sure I understand what'sgoing on.
David (13:33):
And then, when you finally got started, how did IBA
support your business?
Jordan (13:38):
Well one.
Actually being able to go for aloan like straight up is the
most valuable thing.
I don't know if it's the mostvaluable thing, but I don't
think there's a lot of banksthat would be willing to invest
their time into me as much as Ihave, and it's them believing in
(14:06):
us, like they've seen what I'veresearched, what I've done and
understanding what, what I'mtrying to communicate to them
and making sure that I know whatI'm been researching, what I'm
doing in the path I'm going onto no business startup is
crucial.
David (14:25):
It's life-changing for some people.
Jordan (14:27):
Yeah.
David (14:28):
And some people have the networks and the resources to
just have access to businesses.
Their family has startedbusinesses.
But if you're trying to jumpout to something new, like you
said, take that gut feeling anddo something for you and you've
got IBA supporting you with astartup.
Jordan (14:50):
It's everything and they've got a wealth of
knowledge.
Like their business is business, but they know a lot of people
who have jobs in industriessimilar to mine, so it's they're
able to pull on their knowledgeof, like their past experience
(15:10):
and how it can relate to to mybusiness also.
David (15:14):
They have the access to the network, maybe resources,
mentors, people that can guideyou.
And now you've taken that newknowledge, do you remember what
the first six months of businesswas like for you?
Jordan (15:28):
Well, slow, starting off from scratch with very little
clients, so very slow.
Make sure you can walk beforeyou can run.
Because of the equipment Ichose too.
I chose a truck and a tractorand a trailer.
So while I didn't have all thejobs lined up ready to go
(15:49):
straight away, I was able to usethe truck for career work.
So I was still pulling inincome and still learning about
business, at the same timeinvoicing and all of that, and
it helped that we went out of adrought into good rain at the
time.
That was at the end of 2019,started 2020.
David (16:11):
You said you move slow with things, except for slashing
yeah.
Jordan (16:16):
You don't go too fast.
It can be a bit dangerous attimes, but yeah, let's talk
about that.
David (16:24):
You get a job.
How do you quote for somethinglike that?
Is it the size of the property,the terrain?
If I were to go to someone'sbackyard, I'd just look at it
and go.
That'll take me an hour or so,but you've got to walk it.
How does that work?
Jordan (16:41):
It would be good to view every property beforehand and
literally walk the site, butit's just not feasible.
You'll spend the entire daywalking.
You do the best.
The more you do, the more yourealize how much you're able to
do, whether it's an acre an houror half an acre an hour, all
(17:02):
that sort of stuff.
You try to get as muchinformation as you can I try to
do.
That Depends on literally whatyou're saying before the terrain
of the area.
Is it flat?
Is it steep, hilly, potholes?
What sort of obstacles?
Rocks, rubbish, old fences.
(17:25):
Any information that the clientcan give you is really valuable.
Also depends on what it is thatyou're slashing.
Is it just grass?
Is it weeds?
If it's just grass, what typeof grass?
What type of weeds?
Because they're not all thesame.
There's a lot of plantsstronger than others which just
(17:45):
hate being cut, which is goingto push back your time frame of
how quickly you can do the job.
But equally, if it's reallyshort growth of whatever you're
cutting, it's going to be muchquicker.
So I try to ask as muchinformation from the clients as
I can and in return, give themas much information as I can.
(18:06):
Tell them what's there willimpact on how quick the job's
going to be.
I tend to try to do that asmuch as I can and I find clients
appreciate that too rather thanjust giving them a number out
of thin air Wouldn't even thinkof that.
David (18:27):
Different weeds, different grass.
So you know everyone.
Jordan (18:32):
Most people have a property or a place or yeah, a
lot of times, not a lot of times.
Sometimes you get propertieswhich are just completely
overgrown and you just you can'tdo, like not even a hundred and
something plus horsepowertractor can do it.
That's when you've got to getforestry mulchers in and things
like that.
David (18:51):
Has learning more about business through the process of
you know when you went to startyour business and you're
developing all the planning, haslearning about business helped
you learn more about yourself?
Jordan (19:06):
Definitely, definitely.
Not just about the business,but as the podcast and
audiobooks as well, it all feedsinto one.
I've found I'm not the best attalking, so that's one thing I
had to.
I found out I've got to improvethat.
David (19:28):
Now, if we talk about, maybe, some highlights from the
business, is there any sort ofmilestones that you've reached?
Are there any places in thefuture you want the business to
go?
Jordan (19:41):
The biggest milestone so far for me has been the length
of time I'm in business full,because before starting I
learned at least I think it's alittle bit over 60 percent of
businesses fail within the firstthree years and being over
three year mark that's.
That's been the milestone forme.
So that's been really, reallyreass, really reassuring that I
(20:07):
am doing the right thing andcontinue, follow the gut,
continue Well done?
David (20:14):
No, it is.
And the cost of living now, andyou know, the discussion of the
cost of living has been goingon for a long time, but the last
year or two, fuel and basicgroceries is ridiculous.
And I'm thinking that slasheris very thirsty, exactly.
Jordan (20:34):
I was just about to say that With the fuel, the diesel
on the truck and the tractorsgets pretty insane sometimes,
especially when the prices arejust fluctuating all the time.
It's hard to budget around thataspect really hard.
Just got to do the best you canreally, and there's some jobs.
David (20:57):
You come in you budget right, there's hiccups and then
you do a lot more work to getthe job done.
You've already quoted a certainprice, so then you do a lot
more work to get the job done.
You've already quoted a certainprice, so then you're
emotionally putting more ofyourself into the work.
So did you notice any?
We've talked about a highlight.
What are some of the hardestthings about running a business?
Jordan (21:19):
Trying to get the balance of business and personal
life.
That's something I didn't evenconsider starting, because
you're a sole trader, it's justme, there's no other employees,
so I have to do everything,including the job.
Work on site Makes things verydifficult, and I didn't realise
(21:44):
you need a personal life.
Stay healthy, not justphysically, but mentally too,
because if you're just doingnothing but your business, even
though you like it, you're goingto get a burnout, which
happened to me.
I was able to rectify that,though luckily.
David (22:01):
What tools did you use to help with that burnout?
Jordan (22:05):
Mates, mates and reading , yeah, and it all just flows on
from literally what I wassaying before about the audio
boxing podcast.
The people you look up to whatdo they do?
A lot of them, it's not a bigthing, just copy what they do.
(22:28):
If they say they read thisparticular book, it really
helped them.
I'm reading that book.
David (22:35):
That's good.
So you consume audio books,podcasts and you read as well.
Try to.
Jordan (22:42):
Audio books or listening to it is far easier for me and
more enjoyable.
David (22:49):
Yeah, and that burnout phase was that a couple of weeks
, couple of months, couple ofyears?
Because I know that burnout issomething that can take years to
recover from Up here as well,how long was that process?
Jordan (23:04):
Months.
Months and months, and months,continue, just continue, keep on
.
It's something to improveyourself and, in that regards,
you never stop.
I've found Always trying tolearn new things, new ways of
(23:24):
things.
I don't think there is a stoppoint for that.
David (23:32):
I definitely agree.
When you're young, you think bythe time I'm 30, I'm going to
have my life sorted.
Yeah, ooh, was I wrong?
Yeah, let's say there's somemob out there, they've got a
business, they're going hard,they get close to, or they have
just hit burnout.
(23:54):
What's a piece of advice, thefirst thing you'd give them?
Because right now they'reprobably thinking I don't want
to read, I don't want to gooutside, I'm just exhausted.
What's the first piece ofadvice you'd give them?
Jordan (24:09):
Seek connection, Connect with anyone your mates.
If you've really got no one, goto your GP.
Great advice Reach out yeah.
You're not alone, basically.
David (24:21):
Now you've got a business , you've got burnout.
I'm sure that had a huge effecton business.
Ceased business for a while.
Could have stopped, could haveput it on hold.
Did you manage to get anysupport through that process for
the business?
Jordan (24:38):
Yeah, iba was definitely there, definitely there to help
.
They allowed me time, time tostep back, take a proper step
back for only a short amount oftime.
Take a proper step back foronly a short amount of time.
But that was so valuable to beable to just literally take a
(25:04):
step back, because I needed tohave a lot of attention on
fixing the problems.
Basically and you can't do thattrying to do the business at
the same time, it's just being asole trader your personal life
bleeds into your business life.
Business life bleeds intopersonal life.
(25:25):
Yeah, so it's very difficult,but it's doable.
David (25:32):
Just got to reach out and , apart from reading, were there
any other activities thathelped you through that burnout?
Jordan (25:40):
Literally just getting up and walking.
Start moving.
Get off the couch.
Don't get stuck in doomscrolling on your phone.
Get out into the fresh air.
Yeah, spend time with yourfriends.
David (26:00):
Just that movement and walking.
You know that, as cliche as itsounds, one step in front of the
other getting through.
I think that's really importantbecause suffering from burnout,
all sorts of depression myself,all sorts of things over the
years that I feel people need totalk about more.
(26:22):
I remember one moment where Ijust went outside and stood in
the sun, just looked up for awhile it was two weeks I didn't
see the sun.
Yeah, so really great advice.
Now you've got that supportthrough that process.
How was re-entering businessthen?
(26:44):
When you sort of I'm not goingto use the word recovered, let's
just say you managed that time,how was it re-entering?
Jordan (26:54):
I really wasn't too sure what to expect, because the
time I took off was in themiddle of summer and with my job
the go time is summer, so I wasunderstanding that I'm going to
have to start from scratchagain.
All new clients startadvertising again, but I was
(27:19):
quite fortunate that the vastmajority of my clients all came
back to us.
I wasn't expecting that.
It must mean I'm doingsomething right.
Very fortunate for them.
It was good, though, because Ihad a bit of time off and able
(27:48):
to recalibrate.
Recalibrate the thinking whatam I doing?
Alright, recalibrate thethinking.
What am I doing?
Get a few things in place to beable to deal with certain
situations, things like that.
David (28:05):
That's important.
This business, the physicaltoll, emotional, spiritual toll,
just having energy to give,outside of work as well, to your
loved ones, friends and family.
Now, if there's some youngaspiring entrepreneurs, business
people, out there, they're inthe grind.
(28:29):
We've talked about advice forthem if they're in burnout, but
they think they're unstoppableright now, as we all do at that
stage.
So what's some advice now,forecasting that burnout is a
real thing and you have to takecare of your emotional health?
What would you say to someoneout there watching?
(28:50):
And it needs to be one personthat this resonates with.
Jordan (28:57):
Stay connected to people .
David (29:03):
Don't do it all by yourself, everything all the
time.
That is like straight facts,what you just drove right there.
It's so simple.
But it's just that in thosetimes you can feel like you're
alone.
Jordan (29:17):
You're just doing it by yourself particularly if you're
a soul trader and it isliterally just you and the
business.
I'd imagine it'd be far easierfor people doing it as a joint
venture.
David (29:31):
But when do you see the business going in the next 12
months, three years, five years?
Jordan (29:39):
Definitely growing.
I've never stopped trying tolearn new things here and there.
Next step I'm currentlylearning about tenders, so the
next step is to literally get acontract, and that's new
territory for me.
(30:00):
Like I was saying, I've neverbeen in management, so I don't
know what's the pathway for it,and that's the other thing that
IBA's come in to help with.
They can helping us teach me.
You know what is the pathway,what, what, what to do, and
(30:22):
making a big thing seem muchsmaller and achievable.
Well and truly.
So that'll be the first.
Next step will be actuallyactively sourcing and tenders,
seeing what's out there, whatcan I do realistically, and just
(30:44):
keep an eye out, looking andlearning.
David (30:53):
And in your toys you find yourself Googling any beasts
machines that live in thelandscape of landscaping.
I didn't mean to do that, itjust came out.
Jordan (31:03):
Definitely more attachments.
I'd like to diversify the listof services I offer.
There's other things than justslashing that a lot of people
want on the sites.
So, whether it's a wood chipperto clean up the bush areas, a
lot of it's ex-farmland too, andso it really helped with
(31:27):
getting paddocks back to good.
You sort of got to intervene,do a little bit more than just
slashing.
So that's where, if it's supercompacted ground, you've got to
get a ripper into it andliterally rip up the ground,
loosen it up.
If it's not too bad, then a bitof aeration in the soil.
(31:50):
Also, spraying is a big one.
Depends on whether or notyou're comfortable with
chemicals being used on yourproperty, but it's literally
been used everywhere.
Not the only option, though,for control of weeds.
There's a lot of direction, alot of directions I can go in,
(32:16):
and I'm currently askingproperty owners out there what's
the need of yours, sort ofdoing a bit of research in that
sense, literally asking them,and that will heavily determine
what I go for next In return interms of contracts and tenders.
(32:38):
It's likely I'm going to haveto get a much larger machine to
really be able to compete withthe big boys, the big companies,
which is cool too and I'd liketo get to that point where I can
hire actually hire someone toreally make, make a go of the
(33:01):
business and grow it properly,because there's only so far I
can get, just as a sole traderit's a perfect plan.
David (33:09):
some tenders, grant, grant writing, contracts,
infrastructure with themachinery.
Yeah, you know, staff could bea part-time capacity and then
full-time and outside of work.
What does Jordan?
Jordan (33:25):
like to do.
Well, literally last night hada date night with the missus,
went to a candlelight concert inBrisbane.
It's always good to make timefor your partner.
That's the whole thing, thestruggle of finding time.
Making time outside of work foryour life, but definitely going
(33:51):
on road trips with the missus,seeing Brisbane get out and
about, go for a walk here andthere.
That's basically it.
I'd like to get time forhobbies, particularly cars, but
it'll come eventually.
David (34:10):
What sort of cars are you into?
I'm genuinely curious.
Jordan (34:15):
Old Holden and Fords.
My last proper daily driverbefore starting a business was a
1984 Holden WB one tonneau.
Really cool driving that as adaily driver in this day and age
.
It was cool.
David (34:33):
I am a fan of the old Fords.
Love an old F truck.
Yeah, there's a couple aroundhere.
I see Narangba, there's onethat floats around.
I actually pulled up one day,saw him at a servo and asked for
a business card so that wecould call him one day to hire
it for a film.
Yeah, you know what I meanthose cool old cars.
(34:56):
Now you've got a website.
New website, is that right?
New website yep, when did thatgo live?
Where can people check it out?
Google?
uh wwwnhq slashing and hqslashingcomcom, and how has it
been since you've got the newwebsite, now that it's been
professionally done?
(35:17):
Has it impacted your business?
Jordan (35:19):
I want to be a proper business, so all proper business
have website.
All right, I'll do that.
But it also helped too withgoing for contracts and tenders.
So the big businesses orgovernments, whether it's local
state, they've got a really goodpoint of reference.
If you've got a website, theycan just go straight to it and
(35:40):
literally all information'sthere for them easily.
They don't have to scrollthrough Facebook and get lost in
that world.
It helps in that regard thatcredibility for the business.
David (35:53):
It helps in that regard that credibility for the
business Now moving forward 2025and beyond.
We've talked about some of thegoals for the business.
We've talked about a milestonewith the business and the
importance of reaching out,connection, loved ones time with
the people you care about.
What does balance look likemoving into later 2025?
(36:19):
And talk me through your mindmap of how you're going to
navigate work-life balance.
Jordan (36:27):
Really make sure you take time off, focus on
something else other than work.
I think that's the best answerI can give for that one.
I don't know how else todescribe it.
David (36:40):
You give great answers, because sometimes people can
talk about three minutes aboutsomething where what you
actually say is quite concise.
It's very important to taketime off, separate yourself from
work, even though, like yousaid, you can love what you do.
I struggle to do that, to pullmyself away, because I genuinely
(37:01):
love what I do, but very, verygood advice.
So you're dropping gems ofknowledge.
The end of the year, businessis going great.
We talked about separatingourselves.
What are you going to do toreward yourself from practicing
what you're preaching?
It seems like you're very awareand you take the time to read,
(37:24):
to look for knowledge andinspiration for self-improvement
, self-powerment, which we allneed.
What are you going to do onChristmas to celebrate
self-powerment?
Jordan (37:34):
which we all need.
What are you going to do onChristmas?
To celebrate Christmas is ahard one, because middle of
summer that's the growing season, that's when all gears are
going.
I'd like to do a bit of a roadtrip with the missus.
David (37:49):
Where do you want to go?
Jordan (37:50):
North Queensland yeah, there's nothing.
I love a good road trip upnorth, I agree.
David (37:59):
Now I just want to close with a little bit of, maybe an
inspirational quote.
It could be a song or a movieor something that gives you
inspiration.
Life's short, give it a crack,follow your short, give it a
crack, follow your gut.
(38:19):
Just have a go.
I love it.
Jordan, thank you for coming.
Thank you for putting it inneutral, rolling down to see us.
I would love to chat to younext year, follow up, see how
the business is going, and wouldlove to have you back.
It'd be great.
(38:40):
Beautiful, be bigger thanJimim's.
That's it.
Thanks, brother.
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Jordan.
Welcome to the podcast.
There you go.
It's good to be here.
Thanks for coming.
You just drove from down theroad, put it in neutral, rolled
(00:21):
down the hill One way to put ityeah, nice yeah.
Name where you it yeah, niceyeah.
Name where you're from and yourbusiness.
Let's delve right in.
Jordan (00:30):
My name's Jordan, from Ocean View, just up the road
from where we're filming now,and business is NHQ Slashing.
David (00:38):
Tell us a little bit about it and maybe how it
started the emergence of hey, Iwant to start my own business.
Jordan (00:46):
I do slashing services for rural, semi-rural acreage
and small acre areas, with moreof a focus on the semi-rural and
small acre part, becausebasically where I'm situated
there's not too many large,large farms left.
So yeah sort of going for thatsmaller area, smaller market.
I sort of fit in between thevery large slasher guys and all
(01:13):
of the moa men so I can do, yeah, a bit of a good little niche
spot I was about to say nichenow.
David (01:21):
Um, I'm sure with slashing there's machinery
involved.
Um, what slasher do you have?
Tell us about that.
I don't know much aboutslashing, so give us a rundown
of the equipment.
What's involved?
Jordan (01:34):
I run a kubota mx 5200, so that's 50 horsepower, and
behind that I'm pulling afive-foot slasher.
Yeah, it's not too bad, it'sactually really good.
Yeah, a good machine.
I'm really happy with thatchoice.
David (01:50):
Did you do this type of work when you were young?
Is this something you wereexposed to?
And then, as you got older, youthought, hey, maybe I'll do
this for a business.
Jordan (01:59):
Not really.
I've been in the gardening andlawn maintenance on and off
since I was sort of working ageI guess, but never as a proper
career path or anything likethat.
Yeah, I sort of came into thisbusiness later in life.
David (02:18):
Now, when you first decided to start that business,
can you take me back to that day, that month, that year, where
you were floating with that ideaof starting a business, and
what was that first step youtook to maybe registering the
business name?
Jordan (02:32):
There wasn't any one specific time or point where
this is it, this is what I'vegot to do.
It was sort of a slow build-up,pretty slow build-up.
I was stuck in a job which Iwasn't into for many, many years
, like a lot of other people,and sort of a gut feeling of
(02:59):
wanting to try something on myown and branch out and just give
it a go, basically.
But yeah, there's no onespecific point in time or
specific reason, just lots andlots of little ones building up.
David (03:17):
I think the reason is perfect.
You were stuck in somethingthat you didn't enjoy and wanted
something for yourself.
For anyone that's in thatposition, let's say they're in a
job right now.
They're not quite sure theydon't have anything they're
drawn to, they just know thatthey want to do something on
their own.
Do you have anything forsomeone out there?
Jordan (03:43):
listening that might be in a job right now.
That's like, yeah, I'm overthis.
If you've got a dream, or noteven even a dream, if you just
got like a gut feeling, reallypursue it, study it, research it
, I think it's probably the bestthing.
That's what I sort of did.
I just started to devourpodcasts and audio books for the
(04:06):
business part, but for theactual job itself, just a whole
heap of research, and I wasn'tbranching out into a completely
new field or territory oranything like that.
So that made things a loteasier to start.
And, yeah, I think, follow yourgut feeling, follow your dreams
(04:28):
.
If it's not in a job you like,get out.
David (04:33):
Life's short.
That's great advice.
Now you're a business owner.
You mentioned podcasts.
Were there any particularbusiness podcasts you were
consuming?
Jordan (04:42):
There was a few of them, business podcasts you were
consuming.
There was a few of them.
Mark Boris, I listen to him alot.
He's got several differentpodcasts, not all on the same
topic, which is good, so you canreally get into it.
And I sort of listen to peoplemore than just business podcasts
(05:06):
because I'd like certain people, successful people I just
wanted to know what makes themtick, why did they do it, and
just anything like it doesn'thave to be specifically into
business, but what did they doin their personal lives?
And that's where the audiobooks and podcasts really,
really of great value.
(05:27):
Yeah, no, I love podcasts.
David (05:32):
Part of the reason why I wanted to start something was,
again, you can talk to a guest.
You have no idea who they areand they just share something
that resonates with you, whetherit's about life, business, love
, pain.
Now, that gut feeling youtalked about that gut feeling.
Was that something you livedwith for a long time, or it sort
(05:53):
of came quickly and then youaddressed it?
Jordan (05:56):
Lived with for a long time, but I didn't know what to
do with it.
So I sort of just did whateveryone else does, or what I
thought everyone else does justdo a job, try to make money and
that's it.
Look for audiobooks and thepeople who I wanted to listen to
(06:23):
, to, where I've got more of anidea of this might actually be
possible sort of thing, becauseI didn't really think it was
that possible.
I didn't have the best time atschool.
I only enrolled into uni butnever actually managed to give
it a go, and it wasn't inbusiness management or anything
(06:45):
like that anyway.
So I didn't really know what todo, how to do it, and that's
again where the audiobooks camein.
Being able to listen to reallyinfluential people gives you
more of a drive, more of a yeah,I can do this.
David (07:04):
Yeah, you more of a drive , more of a yeah, I can do this.
Yeah, and you can consume it inyour own time, in private, in a
drive, while you're working.
You know, and I think podcastsand audio books have helped
shaped the way people consume.
Um, high school, where did yougo through high school?
Maybe those first 15 years ofyour life, your childhood.
(07:27):
If you mind sharing a littlebit about that school, maybe
sport, anything.
Jordan (07:32):
Yeah, I was born in Brisbane, rural Brisbane.
We actually lived in DarraJuicy Street.
Darra Juicy Street yeah, juicyStreet, and it was made famous
by the Netflix show recently.
Not so much the street butDarra itself is like that was
pretty cool to watch on TV.
But the family moved us up toOceanview.
(07:55):
When I was one and startedgrade one in Daburra State
School, finished there, went toColby College in Petrie and
while we were there they changedthe name to Mount Maria Senior,
but that school only goes tograde 10, and then you have to
find another high school afterthat and then I went to just
(08:18):
down the road, tuckabin StateHigh School and that was
basically it.
After that I tried to do theuni thing but it just wasn't for
me and sort of yeah, got intowork and it's been a pretty wild
(08:39):
ride since then.
David (08:40):
Now, when you're searching for exploring that gut
feeling, do you think that gutfeeling had anything to do with
just your place as a man, as abusiness owner, in society, or
uncertainty about the future?
Was it just something you'restill exploring now?
Jordan (09:05):
Still exploring so often .
I'm learning this about myself.
So often when I ignored the gutfeelings.
It doesn't matter in whatspecific way, shape or form, but
a lot of times if I wentagainst it, things didn't work
(09:28):
out the best.
I'm just realizing that.
And a lot of times when Ifollowed my gut feeling,
whatever the scenario, it workedout Not all the time, but yeah,
just noticing things like that.
So you've got a naturalintuition noticing things like
that.
So you've got a naturalintuition.
I don't know, I don't know howto describe that.
David (09:50):
When you first started the business.
Let's talk about how it gotstarted.
How did you first hear about?
Jordan (10:02):
IBA and talk me through that process.
I first started gettinginterested, getting ideas of
like, when I could see itbecoming a possibility that I
could do it.
I just went out and looked forbusiness courses.
Literally I didn't even knowIBA existed.
And then they came up and theyhad a little short course and
(10:26):
went into Brisbane City, did it,and it was just a very short
introduction, just sort ofgetting an understanding of
what's literally the first stepto do, and it was really
valuable.
It was only a very short littleintroduction but very valuable
(10:51):
for someone like me.
I don't come from a managementbackground, I've always been
just the barrow pusher, so tospeak, and it was good because
they made the big, unreachableideas seem reachable, smaller,
accessible, yeah, and very, verygood in directing my thoughts
(11:17):
in the right direction.
David (11:20):
Now you've gone to this course, one-day course, two-day
course, a few hours.
Jordan (11:24):
I think it was just a one day course.
I'm pretty sure.
David (11:27):
Yeah, you finished this course.
You got to the end of the day.
What happened then?
Jordan (11:33):
Sort of felt energised, to be honest, energised in
thinking that I am on the rightpath and I've got to do it.
I've got to pursue it.
That purpose, yeah.
David (11:51):
And was there a point of contact there that you had to
follow up?
Was it a call, an email?
What was the next step for youto get this business rolling?
Jordan (11:59):
That one little course was a pretty big impact.
I'd sort of forgotten whathappened after.
That little course was prettybig impact.
I sort of forgotten whathappened after that.
But the first step wasdefinitely the business
management plan.
Like IBA's got templates forthat and just literally start
putting pen to paper and do thatbusiness management plan and go
(12:23):
from there, hand it in to IBAand they'll tell you whether
it's you know.
This is right.
Clarify this, clarify that.
Are you sure about this?
Where did you get thisinformation from All that little
stuff?
David (12:40):
It's very important just to be supported Definitely,
definitely.
I find with mob and businessesit's hard to talk to someone
because I know for my family notmany of us, if any, had
businesses, so they had thatsupport Once you started to fill
(13:01):
out that management businessplan and you put it all on paper
.
Do you remember it being aquick process before you were
open for business?
Jordan (13:16):
No, no, it wasn't quick.
Nothing I really do is quickanyway, but that's okay, because
and if I rush things thenusually things don't work out,
so I'm much more suited totaking it slow.
Make sure I understand what'sgoing on.
David (13:33):
And then, when you finally got started, how did IBA
support your business?
Jordan (13:38):
Well one.
Actually being able to go for aloan like straight up is the
most valuable thing.
I don't know if it's the mostvaluable thing, but I don't
think there's a lot of banksthat would be willing to invest
their time into me as much as Ihave, and it's them believing in
(14:06):
us, like they've seen what I'veresearched, what I've done and
understanding what, what I'mtrying to communicate to them
and making sure that I know whatI'm been researching, what I'm
doing in the path I'm going onto no business startup is
crucial.
David (14:25):
It's life-changing for some people.
Jordan (14:27):
Yeah.
David (14:28):
And some people have the networks and the resources to
just have access to businesses.
Their family has startedbusinesses.
But if you're trying to jumpout to something new, like you
said, take that gut feeling anddo something for you and you've
got IBA supporting you with astartup.
Jordan (14:50):
It's everything and they've got a wealth of
knowledge.
Like their business is business, but they know a lot of people
who have jobs in industriessimilar to mine, so it's they're
able to pull on their knowledgeof, like their past experience
(15:10):
and how it can relate to to mybusiness also.
David (15:14):
They have the access to the network, maybe resources,
mentors, people that can guideyou.
And now you've taken that newknowledge, do you remember what
the first six months of businesswas like for you?
Jordan (15:28):
Well, slow, starting off from scratch with very little
clients, so very slow.
Make sure you can walk beforeyou can run.
Because of the equipment Ichose too.
I chose a truck and a tractorand a trailer.
So while I didn't have all thejobs lined up ready to go
(15:49):
straight away, I was able to usethe truck for career work.
So I was still pulling inincome and still learning about
business, at the same timeinvoicing and all of that, and
it helped that we went out of adrought into good rain at the
time.
That was at the end of 2019,started 2020.
David (16:11):
You said you move slow with things, except for slashing
yeah.
Jordan (16:16):
You don't go too fast.
It can be a bit dangerous attimes, but yeah, let's talk
about that.
David (16:24):
You get a job.
How do you quote for somethinglike that?
Is it the size of the property,the terrain?
If I were to go to someone'sbackyard, I'd just look at it
and go.
That'll take me an hour or so,but you've got to walk it.
How does that work?
Jordan (16:41):
It would be good to view every property beforehand and
literally walk the site, butit's just not feasible.
You'll spend the entire daywalking.
You do the best.
The more you do, the more yourealize how much you're able to
do, whether it's an acre an houror half an acre an hour, all
(17:02):
that sort of stuff.
You try to get as muchinformation as you can I try to
do.
That Depends on literally whatyou're saying before the terrain
of the area.
Is it flat?
Is it steep, hilly, potholes?
What sort of obstacles?
Rocks, rubbish, old fences.
(17:25):
Any information that the clientcan give you is really valuable.
Also depends on what it is thatyou're slashing.
Is it just grass?
Is it weeds?
If it's just grass, what typeof grass?
What type of weeds?
Because they're not all thesame.
There's a lot of plantsstronger than others which just
(17:45):
hate being cut, which is goingto push back your time frame of
how quickly you can do the job.
But equally, if it's reallyshort growth of whatever you're
cutting, it's going to be muchquicker.
So I try to ask as muchinformation from the clients as
I can and in return, give themas much information as I can.
(18:06):
Tell them what's there willimpact on how quick the job's
going to be.
I tend to try to do that asmuch as I can and I find clients
appreciate that too rather thanjust giving them a number out
of thin air Wouldn't even thinkof that.
David (18:27):
Different weeds, different grass.
So you know everyone.
Jordan (18:32):
Most people have a property or a place or yeah, a
lot of times, not a lot of times.
Sometimes you get propertieswhich are just completely
overgrown and you just you can'tdo, like not even a hundred and
something plus horsepowertractor can do it.
That's when you've got to getforestry mulchers in and things
like that.
David (18:51):
Has learning more about business through the process of
you know when you went to startyour business and you're
developing all the planning, haslearning about business helped
you learn more about yourself?
Jordan (19:06):
Definitely, definitely.
Not just about the business,but as the podcast and
audiobooks as well, it all feedsinto one.
I've found I'm not the best attalking, so that's one thing I
had to.
I found out I've got to improvethat.
David (19:28):
Now, if we talk about, maybe, some highlights from the
business, is there any sort ofmilestones that you've reached?
Are there any places in thefuture you want the business to
go?
Jordan (19:41):
The biggest milestone so far for me has been the length
of time I'm in business full,because before starting I
learned at least I think it's alittle bit over 60 percent of
businesses fail within the firstthree years and being over
three year mark that's.
That's been the milestone forme.
So that's been really, reallyreass, really reassuring that I
(20:07):
am doing the right thing andcontinue, follow the gut,
continue Well done?
David (20:14):
No, it is.
And the cost of living now, andyou know, the discussion of the
cost of living has been goingon for a long time, but the last
year or two, fuel and basicgroceries is ridiculous.
And I'm thinking that slasheris very thirsty, exactly.
Jordan (20:34):
I was just about to say that With the fuel, the diesel
on the truck and the tractorsgets pretty insane sometimes,
especially when the prices arejust fluctuating all the time.
It's hard to budget around thataspect really hard.
Just got to do the best you canreally, and there's some jobs.
David (20:57):
You come in you budget right, there's hiccups and then
you do a lot more work to getthe job done.
You've already quoted a certainprice, so then you do a lot
more work to get the job done.
You've already quoted a certainprice, so then you're
emotionally putting more ofyourself into the work.
So did you notice any?
We've talked about a highlight.
What are some of the hardestthings about running a business?
Jordan (21:19):
Trying to get the balance of business and personal
life.
That's something I didn't evenconsider starting, because
you're a sole trader, it's justme, there's no other employees,
so I have to do everything,including the job.
Work on site Makes things verydifficult, and I didn't realise
(21:44):
you need a personal life.
Stay healthy, not justphysically, but mentally too,
because if you're just doingnothing but your business, even
though you like it, you're goingto get a burnout, which
happened to me.
I was able to rectify that,though luckily.
David (22:01):
What tools did you use to help with that burnout?
Jordan (22:05):
Mates, mates and reading , yeah, and it all just flows on
from literally what I wassaying before about the audio
boxing podcast.
The people you look up to whatdo they do?
A lot of them, it's not a bigthing, just copy what they do.
(22:28):
If they say they read thisparticular book, it really
helped them.
I'm reading that book.
David (22:35):
That's good.
So you consume audio books,podcasts and you read as well.
Try to.
Jordan (22:42):
Audio books or listening to it is far easier for me and
more enjoyable.
David (22:49):
Yeah, and that burnout phase was that a couple of weeks
, couple of months, couple ofyears?
Because I know that burnout issomething that can take years to
recover from Up here as well,how long was that process?
Jordan (23:04):
Months.
Months and months, and months,continue, just continue, keep on
.
It's something to improveyourself and, in that regards,
you never stop.
I've found Always trying tolearn new things, new ways of
(23:24):
things.
I don't think there is a stoppoint for that.
David (23:32):
I definitely agree.
When you're young, you think bythe time I'm 30, I'm going to
have my life sorted.
Yeah, ooh, was I wrong?
Yeah, let's say there's somemob out there, they've got a
business, they're going hard,they get close to, or they have
just hit burnout.
(23:54):
What's a piece of advice, thefirst thing you'd give them?
Because right now they'reprobably thinking I don't want
to read, I don't want to gooutside, I'm just exhausted.
What's the first piece ofadvice you'd give them?
Jordan (24:09):
Seek connection, Connect with anyone your mates.
If you've really got no one, goto your GP.
Great advice Reach out yeah.
You're not alone, basically.
David (24:21):
Now you've got a business , you've got burnout.
I'm sure that had a huge effecton business.
Ceased business for a while.
Could have stopped, could haveput it on hold.
Did you manage to get anysupport through that process for
the business?
Jordan (24:38):
Yeah, iba was definitely there, definitely there to help
.
They allowed me time, time tostep back, take a proper step
back for only a short amount oftime.
Take a proper step back foronly a short amount of time.
But that was so valuable to beable to just literally take a
(25:04):
step back, because I needed tohave a lot of attention on
fixing the problems.
Basically and you can't do thattrying to do the business at
the same time, it's just being asole trader your personal life
bleeds into your business life.
Business life bleeds intopersonal life.
(25:25):
Yeah, so it's very difficult,but it's doable.
David (25:32):
Just got to reach out and , apart from reading, were there
any other activities thathelped you through that burnout?
Jordan (25:40):
Literally just getting up and walking.
Start moving.
Get off the couch.
Don't get stuck in doomscrolling on your phone.
Get out into the fresh air.
Yeah, spend time with yourfriends.
David (26:00):
Just that movement and walking.
You know that, as cliche as itsounds, one step in front of the
other getting through.
I think that's really importantbecause suffering from burnout,
all sorts of depression myself,all sorts of things over the
years that I feel people need totalk about more.
(26:22):
I remember one moment where Ijust went outside and stood in
the sun, just looked up for awhile it was two weeks I didn't
see the sun.
Yeah, so really great advice.
Now you've got that supportthrough that process.
How was re-entering businessthen?
(26:44):
When you sort of I'm not goingto use the word recovered, let's
just say you managed that time,how was it re-entering?
Jordan (26:54):
I really wasn't too sure what to expect, because the
time I took off was in themiddle of summer and with my job
the go time is summer, so I wasunderstanding that I'm going to
have to start from scratchagain.
All new clients startadvertising again, but I was
(27:19):
quite fortunate that the vastmajority of my clients all came
back to us.
I wasn't expecting that.
It must mean I'm doingsomething right.
Very fortunate for them.
It was good, though, because Ihad a bit of time off and able
(27:48):
to recalibrate.
Recalibrate the thinking whatam I doing?
Alright, recalibrate thethinking.
What am I doing?
Get a few things in place to beable to deal with certain
situations, things like that.
David (28:05):
That's important.
This business, the physicaltoll, emotional, spiritual toll,
just having energy to give,outside of work as well, to your
loved ones, friends and family.
Now, if there's some youngaspiring entrepreneurs, business
people, out there, they're inthe grind.
(28:29):
We've talked about advice forthem if they're in burnout, but
they think they're unstoppableright now, as we all do at that
stage.
So what's some advice now,forecasting that burnout is a
real thing and you have to takecare of your emotional health?
What would you say to someoneout there watching?
(28:50):
And it needs to be one personthat this resonates with.
Jordan (28:57):
Stay connected to people .
David (29:03):
Don't do it all by yourself, everything all the
time.
That is like straight facts,what you just drove right there.
It's so simple.
But it's just that in thosetimes you can feel like you're
alone.
Jordan (29:17):
You're just doing it by yourself particularly if you're
a soul trader and it isliterally just you and the
business.
I'd imagine it'd be far easierfor people doing it as a joint
venture.
David (29:31):
But when do you see the business going in the next 12
months, three years, five years?
Jordan (29:39):
Definitely growing.
I've never stopped trying tolearn new things here and there.
Next step I'm currentlylearning about tenders, so the
next step is to literally get acontract, and that's new
territory for me.
(30:00):
Like I was saying, I've neverbeen in management, so I don't
know what's the pathway for it,and that's the other thing that
IBA's come in to help with.
They can helping us teach me.
You know what is the pathway,what, what, what to do, and
(30:22):
making a big thing seem muchsmaller and achievable.
Well and truly.
So that'll be the first.
Next step will be actuallyactively sourcing and tenders,
seeing what's out there, whatcan I do realistically, and just
(30:44):
keep an eye out, looking andlearning.
David (30:53):
And in your toys you find yourself Googling any beasts
machines that live in thelandscape of landscaping.
I didn't mean to do that, itjust came out.
Jordan (31:03):
Definitely more attachments.
I'd like to diversify the listof services I offer.
There's other things than justslashing that a lot of people
want on the sites.
So, whether it's a wood chipperto clean up the bush areas, a
lot of it's ex-farmland too, andso it really helped with
(31:27):
getting paddocks back to good.
You sort of got to intervene,do a little bit more than just
slashing.
So that's where, if it's supercompacted ground, you've got to
get a ripper into it andliterally rip up the ground,
loosen it up.
If it's not too bad, then a bitof aeration in the soil.
(31:50):
Also, spraying is a big one.
Depends on whether or notyou're comfortable with
chemicals being used on yourproperty, but it's literally
been used everywhere.
Not the only option, though,for control of weeds.
There's a lot of direction, alot of directions I can go in,
(32:16):
and I'm currently askingproperty owners out there what's
the need of yours, sort ofdoing a bit of research in that
sense, literally asking them,and that will heavily determine
what I go for next In return interms of contracts and tenders.
(32:38):
It's likely I'm going to haveto get a much larger machine to
really be able to compete withthe big boys, the big companies,
which is cool too and I'd liketo get to that point where I can
hire actually hire someone toreally make, make a go of the
(33:01):
business and grow it properly,because there's only so far I
can get, just as a sole traderit's a perfect plan.
David (33:09):
some tenders, grant, grant writing, contracts,
infrastructure with themachinery.
Yeah, you know, staff could bea part-time capacity and then
full-time and outside of work.
What does Jordan?
Jordan (33:25):
like to do.
Well, literally last night hada date night with the missus,
went to a candlelight concert inBrisbane.
It's always good to make timefor your partner.
That's the whole thing, thestruggle of finding time.
Making time outside of work foryour life, but definitely going
(33:51):
on road trips with the missus,seeing Brisbane get out and
about, go for a walk here andthere.
That's basically it.
I'd like to get time forhobbies, particularly cars, but
it'll come eventually.
David (34:10):
What sort of cars are you into?
I'm genuinely curious.
Jordan (34:15):
Old Holden and Fords.
My last proper daily driverbefore starting a business was a
1984 Holden WB one tonneau.
Really cool driving that as adaily driver in this day and age
.
It was cool.
David (34:33):
I am a fan of the old Fords.
Love an old F truck.
Yeah, there's a couple aroundhere.
I see Narangba, there's onethat floats around.
I actually pulled up one day,saw him at a servo and asked for
a business card so that wecould call him one day to hire
it for a film.
Yeah, you know what I meanthose cool old cars.
(34:56):
Now you've got a website.
New website, is that right?
New website yep, when did thatgo live?
Where can people check it out?
Google?
uh wwwnhq slashing and hqslashingcomcom, and how has it
been since you've got the newwebsite, now that it's been
professionally done?
(35:17):
Has it impacted your business?
Jordan (35:19):
I want to be a proper business, so all proper business
have website.
All right, I'll do that.
But it also helped too withgoing for contracts and tenders.
So the big businesses orgovernments, whether it's local
state, they've got a really goodpoint of reference.
If you've got a website, theycan just go straight to it and
(35:40):
literally all information'sthere for them easily.
They don't have to scrollthrough Facebook and get lost in
that world.
It helps in that regard thatcredibility for the business.
David (35:53):
It helps in that regard that credibility for the
business Now moving forward 2025and beyond.
We've talked about some of thegoals for the business.
We've talked about a milestonewith the business and the
importance of reaching out,connection, loved ones time with
the people you care about.
What does balance look likemoving into later 2025?
(36:19):
And talk me through your mindmap of how you're going to
navigate work-life balance.
Jordan (36:27):
Really make sure you take time off, focus on
something else other than work.
I think that's the best answerI can give for that one.
I don't know how else todescribe it.
David (36:40):
You give great answers, because sometimes people can
talk about three minutes aboutsomething where what you
actually say is quite concise.
It's very important to taketime off, separate yourself from
work, even though, like yousaid, you can love what you do.
I struggle to do that, to pullmyself away, because I genuinely
(37:01):
love what I do, but very, verygood advice.
So you're dropping gems ofknowledge.
The end of the year, businessis going great.
We talked about separatingourselves.
What are you going to do toreward yourself from practicing
what you're preaching?
It seems like you're very awareand you take the time to read,
(37:24):
to look for knowledge andinspiration for self-improvement
, self-powerment, which we allneed.
What are you going to do onChristmas to celebrate
self-powerment?
Jordan (37:34):
which we all need.
What are you going to do onChristmas?
To celebrate Christmas is ahard one, because middle of
summer that's the growing season, that's when all gears are
going.
I'd like to do a bit of a roadtrip with the missus.
David (37:49):
Where do you want to go?
Jordan (37:50):
North Queensland yeah, there's nothing.
I love a good road trip upnorth, I agree.
David (37:59):
Now I just want to close with a little bit of, maybe an
inspirational quote.
It could be a song or a movieor something that gives you
inspiration.
Life's short, give it a crack,follow your short, give it a
crack, follow your gut.
(38:19):
Just have a go.
I love it.
Jordan, thank you for coming.
Thank you for putting it inneutral, rolling down to see us.
I would love to chat to younext year, follow up, see how
the business is going, and wouldlove to have you back.
It'd be great.
(38:40):
Beautiful, be bigger thanJimim's.
That's it.
Thanks, brother.
Cheers, thank you for tuning into the new dreaming podcast in
partnership with iba.
Stay inspired, stay connectedand we'll see you next time.
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