What if you could remember all your past lives? | A conversation with Matías De Stefano

In this episode, Matías De Stefano recounts what it's like to remember all his past lives—all the way to Atlantis (and beyond). We also discuss the liminal space between lifetimes, artificial intelligence, Heaven and Hell, the Age of Aquarius and so much more. Watch the video version of this podcast on YouTube.

About the Guest: Many of you may recognize Matías De Stefano from his series "Initiation" on Gaia TV, his six-part book series, and his documentary titled "The Rememberer."

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Episode Transcript

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Hello, everyone, My name is Nicholas Ashbaugh. Welcome to my podcast. Each and every episode
we dig a little bit deeper into things like the paranormal metaphysics or the unknown. Today,
of course, is no exception. And in fact, we have a really special guest. His name is Matías De
Stefano, and many of you may recognize him from Gaia TV's Initiation, his six-part book series,

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or his documentary which is called the Rememberer. So without any further delay,
I'd like to welcome both Matías and everybody that decided to tune in. Let's get started.
Matías, it's a pleasure. Welcome.Thank you for inviting me.
You're very, very welcome. So I actually want to start with an interesting personal aside because
normally before a podcast I'll just kind of like dig into everybody's the books that they've done,

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the TV stuff that they've done, and really kind of absorb. But my guides almost kind of gave me a
kick in a different direction. So for the past two weeks, I've had this weird experience where I've
been going through vertigo and lightheadedness and all of this. And I was like, I even went
to the doctors. There was nothing wrong, and I'm like, "Okay, this is like a spiritual realignment

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chakra upgrade." And I'm a medium too, so I'll talk about some of the stuff I picked up on.
I have a bunch of questions, but I think this is a lot more interesting actually,
because it's kind of more relevant to why I wanted to talk to you today. So it
started about two or three weeks ago before this. It's almost like with a black hole,
there's an event horizon. So as we started to get closer to this particular podcast,

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I felt like I crossed the event horizon. And energetically, I can tell you work on a lot of
different dimensions because I was rewatching season one of Initiation and you were kind of
talking about how things were spherical and there's all these different dimensions. And
I feel like what was happening initially while I was trying to tune into your energy was I was kind
of sliding on all the different dimensions, trying to get a read of you for a second.

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Yes.So I just took it very easy
and instead kind of mediumship kicked in. And what came through was kind of cool because it's not Los
Angeles, but I saw myself in the rainforest and I was outside just kind of really enjoying the rain,
which I don't normally in my human body. But it felt very good to kind of be out there and just

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kind of like drink it all in. And so I decided to do a little research. And you recently did
a video on the rain earlier this year and talking about vulnerability and sometimes self-judgment.
And it's interesting because I think just because we're spiritual, sometimes people think that we
don't have human emotions and complex things. So I like to start there. What is it that you do to

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kind of normalize when you have those periods of disorientation like I went through, or feeling
a little bit more sensitive? How do you find yourself and ground yourself in those moments?
I allow myself to experience it fully. I am a very extrovert person that, of course, speaks

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a lot with a lot of people and all the time but within I have this constant seed of depression.
Okay.And instead
of fighting it, I usually embrace it. I don't try to be a happy person. I enjoy being sad.
Okay. I was going to say the rain is normally connected to letting

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that all kind of process. So that makes sense.Yeah, it has to. We wouldn't have water in the
rivers if there's not drops. So sometimes whatever is in a high vibration, it can also be not good
for our health because we are a whole being, not just up. So when you think in terms of the sphere,

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you can think about ascension, you can only think about contraction or expansion. So we have had
this mindset constantly of having to ascend to a higher vibration, to be happy ever after like
in Disney. And that's not how nature works. So I allow myself to embrace it, to feel it,

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and to go so deep into it until I find the root. And instead of trying to say, "I have to take this
emotion away so I can fully live in harmony or happy," instead of doing that, I understand that
that is my teacher, that that emotion is showing me something that is important too. So yeah,

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I kind of have a crisis every week. [laughter]I was going to start off just by saying, how are
you feeling? Because that's what I was kind of picking up on a little bit just from empathic
energy. But I think it's important to know that whether you see the past or the future, you have
to really live right here, right now. And that's kind of one of the focuses of this particular

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conversation. I think today is how we can leverage that. You remember a lot. I can sort of see in the
future. And I feel like our conversation can be in the middle today, if that makes sense. Just
to kind of help people that maybe haven't seen as much of the TV series or read the books, or this
might be their first introduction to you, could you tell them a little bit about your gift and

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maybe sometimes challenge as being a rememberer, being able to see past several lifetimes,
all the way back-- beyond even Atlantis, right, because you can see the beginning, correct?
As an introduction, people call me rememberer because since I was a child, I used to remember
everything that I've done before I was born. Of course, in a very creative way. So everyone in my

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environment was not spiritual. So I didn't have the background or the context of saying, "Oh,
that's a spiritual thing." For everyone around me, it was like, oh, I have a lot of imagination
and I'm a storyteller, let's say. So it took me years to understand that what I actually had
was something from other dimension, even though I remember those dimensions. I was born with that,

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it just kept going and it got more complex. And then throughout all the years of teenagehood,
I have to go through all these emotions from different timelines and different dimensions
and missions and purpose and things from the past and the future until I understood
that I was not just remembering past lives, I was actually remembering parts of myself in different

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timelines and dimensions and to put them back all towards me here. And when I managed to do that,
I was able to help others to understand their part in all of this. So I started to study
education to help kids in school, actually, those who might have the same thing as I do,

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but they don't have the support or the understanding. But eventually, it all turned
into teachers and parents making me questions. And some of those people recorded me and put it
in YouTube. So that's like, yeah, all the--Okay. It kind of blew up from there. Yeah.

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Yeah. It came from there. So it was all in Spanish for a while. And I was not a
YouTuber trying to explain things. I was in a mission of going places and connecting dots
and all of that. So eventually, when Gaia me and said, would you do something in English? I said,

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sure. So I did my best on doing that first season. And that's what also was--
--catalyst.That's why we are here.
Exactly. No, it's great. And I think having that tool is so amazing. For me,
I didn't kind of have the awakening until much later, like in my 30s. So the interesting

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thing with that is that it kind of gave me a chance to live a normal life a little bit, so.
Normal is overrated as you and I kind of know. But what I would say is how did you normalize? Because
one of my planetary goals here is to elevate consciousness, teach like you are, but also like,
normalize conversations around spirituality so it isn't seen as outlandish, so that people can feel

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more open with it. But how have you dealt with all of the remembering? Because I think there
is-- I got some past life flashbacks, maybe like 10 or so. But later in life. And again, maybe I
didn't know what they were initially, and now I can definitely recognize when it's a flashback.
But having it all at the beginning, what's been the biggest sort of gift and challenge with that,

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particularly when it comes to relationships or situations? How can you become fully present
when some of that baggage is there with you?Yeah, well, it's a challenge, of course. And
I also used to say to people when I was younger, and I still say it,
that as you said, most of the people are living a normal life and then they have an awakening.

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Yeah. You were always awake.Yeah, for me was I was always awake and
suddenly I started to get sleepy.Interesting.
And so I usually say, don't follow me, because if you follow me, you're going down. I'm going
down. And I have no interest on going up because I remember that. I know that I will come back to

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that so I'm not doing any effort on going down.Understood.
So I love and enjoy this reality. But it was very tough at the beginning because I couldn't relate
to this reality. I didn't understand why I was a human. I actually accepted I was a human when I
was 21. I literally remember that sentence that I said. It was like, "Oh, I'm one of them." In

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that moment when I was 21, it was like, "Oh my gosh, I'm one of them." And that changed
completely for me. It was very difficult at the beginning because, not because of the environment,
but because I couldn't understand this reality. I couldn't relate to what was happening around.

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But my environment was very helpful because I didn't have this pressure on trying to be
someone that I was not. Everyone was allowing me to be. I had no problems with some teachers.
Some teachers understood what I was going through. So it was very easy in the external,

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let's say, but difficult to try to organize everything. And I guess that one of the main
things that I thank my culture, what I decided to be born in, is that Argentinian culture,
which comes from mostly south Spain and south Italy, we have a culture of many hundreds of years

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of self-destruction. And we are so used to live in a mess that we learn how to make fun of it.
Okay.So I think humor has been one
of the main things that kept me seen.Grounded. Present. Yeah.

(12:09):
Grounded. Yeah. Yeah.I used to get in trouble
as a kid because I made people laugh too much. But I think humor is amazing and it's really,
really important to not take yourself too seriously, too. That actually is sometimes
when I have my worst moments is if I put too much pressure on something, which is, I think why the
guys were like, "Just stop for a second here."Also, for sure, in my own life, my best friends,

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they didn't believe in anything. For example--Not atheists, but just nothing, basically. Yeah.
Yeah. Some of my best friends, for example, they were completely the opposite to me. They
were atheist and heavy metal. And so I was completely the opposite. But they helped me
ground so much. I would say, "I'm feeling this." And they said, "Shut up." It was a healthy bully.

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Yeah. Well, it's kind of a cold blast of air, too. It helps you stay in the body a little bit, too.
Exactly. Yeah.You were talking a little bit about
choosing the culture, too. I had this flashback where I could see myself with guides. And maybe
after I've been watching your series, I thought maybe it was in a triangle or something, too. But
I remember kind of choosing the body, choosing the language. So it was like a dressing room. That's

(13:29):
the best way I can describe it. And there was maybe two guides that I could see with me and
me. And the power of three is something you talk about to trinities. So do you have remembrances
of the liminal spaces between lifetimes and if so, what? Because I also really aligned with your

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concept of hell and heaven being a projection of our consciousness. I think it could free so many
of us from feeling guilt and being stuck and being judged because I don't think that it is exactly
the way that we think it is. So I'd love to hear your experiences of the liminal space. Maybe your

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experience in choosing this body. Anything you want to talk about. The in-between space.
The choosing this reality. When we try to remember that or try to explain this situation,
we humanize it a lot. Because it's very difficult to actually comprehend what is happening. Because

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I don't know, it's like trying to-- it's like trying to explain what you see in the screen,
but instead of saying, oh, there's a person and there's colors and there's letters or
these things you have to explain actually. Oh, there is [0111 101100?]. So there are layers of

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information that when you access to how it works is not literally you as a soul standing in front
of two people that gives you a body or that's the way in your brain in which your brain says,
"Okay. I have to get all this data in the most easier way for me to get it." But actually,

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what is happening it's like a beautiful combination of ways and data that is mixing in
different dimensions that by resonance they get together, and by gravity and polarity you

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kind of bound and balance towards a specific location. So it's so beautiful and so complex
that to explain it, it's easier to say yes, you choose where you're going to be born. So
it's easier to say that way. And you need three aspects or three beings to anchor that in the

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matter. So it's like a tetrahedron. That is--There could have been one behind me. I was
probably looking at the two in front. There could have been one behind. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's like you need that position in order to locate. It's like if you are trying to--0
Triangulation.Yeah, the triangulation is like math.
In order for you to have a result, you need this triangulation in order to locate the hight, depth,

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width, and which exact location you're going to be manifesting. So. So it's basically math, geometry,
combination of infinite data that has no time. So that's why it feels eternity. That is when you are

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being downloaded. But what happened when you are being uploaded to the system? So when you're being
uploaded, now you are stuck in a system because for every experience, everything that you have
done now you have an emotion, a name. So all your programming or your programs are like a software.

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Anchored.Yeah, a software that is already that. So when you
upload the software, you cannot become everything. You are going to be related to the level of that
software. So that means that if you're in a low vibration, everything that you will-- the places

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where you're going to move in these waves is low vibration. And that's what we call hell. So it's
not that there is a place called hell, and you go, if you do bad things, there's a lot of good
people that are in hell, I must say. So there's a lot of good people in hell. There's a lot of
bad people that reach heaven. And you will say, why? Because of the state of vibration.

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Interesting.It's like you can be a bad person and
love classical music and be in a high vibration, and you can be a very good person and love heavy
metal and it's a low vibration. So how do you compensate that? It's not about good or bad.

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You talk a lot about the positive and negative polarities and how if you just go towards one,
if you just go towards the light or just towards the dark, you're missing the big picture. And
that's kind of the triangulation piece that you were talking about, too. Or the third piece is to
help you see the bigger picture. So is that maybe something that we're moving towards as we go into

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this age of Aquarius and hopefully let go of some of the past? Because there is a lot of division on
the planet right now. That's why I think this is a beautifully timed podcast, because we're recording
it right before the solstice, right before the New Year's. Right, as Mercury is direct, but
Mars is kind of retrograde for a bit. So there's a lot going on right now. And so in this new year,

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what's the one piece of advice you can do to kind of help them see beyond the division, beyond the
polarities, to get to that triangulated point?We need to remember this, that polarity is not a
bad thing. Polarity is creative, is creativity.That's how we divided and become
the human. Right? Yeah.From this. So everything exists

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just because of polarity. The concept that we have to transcend is not polarity, it's duality.
Duality. Thank you.The concept of duality
is when you think that two things need to be opposite or there's always something
against me. So the concept of there's always two things, and in our minds, those two things are

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usually against each other. So this is a cultural thing that helped people in the past to organize
because in times where we didn't have law, you had to tell people what is good and what is wrong. And
because you cannot control people, because--They want chaos, right?

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Have control because is a chaos. So you have to create an idea of if you do bad things,
you're going to die and go in a bad place. So your own consciousness is constantly judging yourself
to kind of say, okay, this is good, or this is bad. This is so. So without the need of justice.

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So that's why they created divine justice. But what happened when you start to realize,
"Oh, wait a moment, that's not how the universe works." There's no divine justice,
or there is no someone judged me or observing me and these kind of things. The actual thing

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that I need is to remember that it's not that I'm here to go there or there. It's that I am
the middle point of all of those possibilities, which changes completely the point of view of
going somewhere from somewhere. Like we usually say, we come from this place to go somewhere,

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to become someone. So we have to get away from the past to go to the future. So all this programming
that we have is duality because of polarity. But the triangulation here tells you about something,
that it doesn't matter where you go towards the past, the future, up, down, you will be always in

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the middle. You will be always there. It doesn't matter how far you go in the future, you will be
always in the middle point. And so that helps you to understand something that is transcendental
related to the triangulation, which is harmony.So harmony is the ability to find coherence

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between all the different aspects without trying to escape one of them. So to make a very practical
example is get a guitar. You have a guitar, and you have a string, and you have the upper
part of the guitar. So if the string is not being pulled by the tuning in the other side,

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you have to put pressure on it in order for the chord to tune. But there is no good sound
without the hole in the center. So the thing that makes you sound perfectly is the tension between
two opposites. But the only thing that makes you sound perfectly is where in this string you put

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the pressure in the middle. So the balance of the note, the frequency of the sound, it's only
related to the pressure you put in the present between past and future, or positive and negative.
So it's not about leaving the negative or going away from the past to go to the future and set

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yourself free into a new dimension, but how myself can tune myself sometimes towards the past and
the negative, sometimes towards the future and the positive in order to make different songs.
And you also touched on something there with the tension piece, which is sometimes in the
most challenging situation when we're put into tension, we can find what's been missing. So you,

(23:45):
in one of your videos, you were talking about if life isn't going, quote-unquote, "right". If
there's a lot of challenges and you're constantly up against-- I always, like on my channel, say,
follow the energy, where the opening is. So if you're not in resonance with it, if it's hard,
that's probably for reason. If you've gone through something difficult and it makes you stronger,
that's also probably a life lesson that you needed to learn. So the tension also helps

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you make a more beautiful song of life. Does that make sense if I take the metaphor another level?
Yeah. Totally. Yeah. And that's something that I would say. It's very interesting when you
start to see it that way, that you are just creating a song. And songs have up and down.
It has the tension and resolution in order to have actually music. Because otherwise

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what's the point of a song?It's just noise. Yeah.
It's just noise. So the only way for a song to exist is if you have tension and resolution with
chords, which is these three aspects. So if your life is a song, you would need a lot of tension,
a lot of resolutions, tensions and resolutions. But you will be always the middle point that set

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the pressure of that tension. If it's shorter, if it's longer. So you decide where do you--
That's the free will, right?That's the free will. Exactly.
The core is there. That's not free will because it's already existing.
But you choose what to do with those notes.The other thing from that metaphor - and I

(25:19):
know you talked about this - kind of I think it is the divine theme [inaudible] where you
have to close your eyes to kind of tune in. That sort of center space too represents-- we try to
fill our space up all the time, I feel like. Our schedules, our mind, our playlists and everything.
And I feel like one of the things that we can do maybe on this new year too, is just to kind
of create some space, hold some space to receive, right? Any advice besides just closing your eyes

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and meditating? Music is obviously something you love because I've seen many videos that you've
done and actually you can even remember some of the lyrics in Atlantean or whatever it's called;
is that correct?Yeah, yeah.
So obviously music's a great way. Writing, meditating, more of this,
right? That would be a great way to connect to source and to your higher consciousness.

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Yeah. Basically, the universe is vibration. So when you put it in words, when you express, when
you sing, you are manifested something because the waves are hitting everything around you and they
create you back. So this is basically like if you all the time-- if you criticize all the time, so

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eventually everything will be critics on you. So this is the simplest way, but also a better way is
when you threw a rock to a pool. So eventually the waves will come back to the center [crosstalk]--
Rippling.--the ripples of the waves. So that's how,
when you speak, that's also happening in the whole, in everything. So be careful with what you

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say, and try to be the most coherent with what you try to say. Because I think that one of the main
things that we have to understand is that it's not about sitting and meditating. It's about action,

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feeling, and thoughts. So the chord of a living being is what you think, what you feel,
and what you do, it must be coherent. And most of us, we don't act coherently because we do what we
don't think, and we think what we don't feel. So we are kind of in disharmony with everything. So I

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would say that one of the main things that we have to acknowledge is to make ourselves the question,
"Am I coherent? Am I acting according to what I feel? Am I thinking in according to
what I do. So, we have to do those questions constantly to ourselves in order to tune.

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I think questions are a great way to work beyond fears, too, because on a lot of the
readings that I do, if there's something critical that comes up, like if we think, I can't do it,
you can kind of start to walk yourself into it. Like, why can't I do it? How can I do it?
How will I do it? And then you kind of get to, I can, I will, I am. And I know you're a
big fan of the I am because that's kind of how the original-- whatever you want to call God,

(28:34):
became aware, right? Was that I'm here, I am. What am I? And that's kind of what we are. Is the
universe trying to make sense of itself? Correct?Yeah. Trying to find itself through questions. And
what you said about, how can we open ourselves to receive? The only way to open yourself to receive
is by giving away. So, you can, for example, the only way to receive God within you is if you let

(29:04):
yourself go. And this idea, it's for everything. If you want to receive a book, then you have to
give away a book. When we say, I want to feel God, then you cannot have your personality. You have to
live away your personality because it's filling up the space for something else to come. So,

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it's very important. That's why they say in the spiritual path, release the ego. And I think
that everyone misunderstood this concept of, release the ego, because it's mistaken with the
idea of you shouldn't be egoistic or selfish, you shouldn't be like all the senses is myself. No,

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it's not about that. It's about, when you are in the spiritual path
you have to acknowledge that you don't exist. And in order to be everything, you have to just
give away the possibility of being a slice of it. And that's a very intense work because the ego,

(30:17):
which is the point of gravity-- I call the ego the point of gravity. The point of gravity of
who we are is there in order to give order, sense to our existence. Without the ego,
we don't exist. We don't know who we are. So, it's important to have ego. It's very important

(30:37):
to have the ego center where it belongs.We'd just be tumbleweed otherwise. Yeah.
Yeah. You have to put the ego here. The problem is that we have usually the ego here, here, here,
like in different parts of the body. So that's when we have this conflict. But if you put the
ego where it belongs, in between the plexus and the heart, so you are center. And when

(31:04):
something bigger wants to come, you just release the ego outside so something bigger can come in,
express, and then you bring the ego back so you can share it with others.
Makes sense.But this goes to the
simplest thing which is, if you want a hug, then you have to give a hug. Like something simple.

(31:28):
Well, and the heart as well, is something that I think we've been shutting down and protecting
over the past few years or decades. And now that's also-- you talk about that being sort of a central
way to connect with the universe. Because love is really the currency of the universe, I think,
anyway. So, we have to be able to open up that channel, be more vulnerable. That's

(31:52):
why we're having conversations like this. Any advice or any sort of comments on what people
might be focusing on with the heart space to open it up or let go of some of the walls that they've
built because it really is holding you back otherwise. You can't find your voice if the
heart is shut down. You can't connect with your power if the heart is shut down. And you can't

(32:13):
connect with others. It's like the CPU even though we think of this as the CPU. That's why Egyptians,
this was the seed of knowledge, right? Yeah.Well, it's--
Complicated. [laughter]It's the whole deconstruction of your own house,
of your own self. So for example, in 2020 and 2021, I was living in Egypt for one year. And

(32:40):
for 370 days, I went inside the pyramid.That's a long time.
Every morning. Yeah, 370 times in a row every morning to the Great Pyramid,
received an information, wrote the conversation that I received from myself talking with the self,

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and then explain it online. So that was what I did for a year. Every day, the conversation was about
breaking me apart, about destroying who I thought I was. So every information was my ego asking,
"Why? I don't get it. I don't understand it." And then the answers were destroying me and everything

(33:28):
that I believed. So I had to go through science, spirituality, past family, all the different
concepts, until the higher self said, "Oh, this is not true. This is not like this. This is not
that. But it is like this just because you created it in that way. So the only way for

(33:51):
you to release yourself from all this weight is if you just deconstruct all of that because you
created it." And when it says you, it's not Matthias. It's the program of human beings,
for example. "You are trapped. You, humanity," it said, "are trapped in a system because you

(34:12):
created that system in order to survive in an environment." So whether you have to honor that
system or by honoring you keep it or by honoring you release it. But when you release it, suddenly
your ego is naked. Iimagine that, for example, a pearl, how pearls are created, it's just--

(34:39):
Right. A little bit of grit or irritation, right?Yeah. It's a grain of sand that enters the oyster.
And it's so annoying. It's something that is so annoying that the oyster says, "I cannot release
this." So it starts to cover it. It starts to put calcium on it until it finally is so smooth and

(35:02):
soft that it doesn't bother. And that's what we call a pearl. So imagine that it's like,
"Okay. This is me. That pearl, this is me." But actually, all that is you is just holding
something that was bothering you.Interesting.
So to go to the root of who you are, you have to--You have to break through the shell.

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Break the shell, break the oyster, break the pearl. And the pearl is not even the thing.
It's just the cover for the whole thing. So then you say, "Oh, this is myself. And I have to take
care of it because I'm like a pearl in this universe." But actually, what is the pearl?
It's just a neutros that has been protecting something that was annoying. [laughter] So you

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can take it as a beautiful thing. Or you can say, "No. I need to go to the root." Why do I exist.
What you're describing is almost like denial, right? Or there's other words,
but that's what kind of-- that's what came to mind. So we can talk ourselves out of things,
and we're hiding things from ourselves, and we make it look pretty, but there is something

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deep-rooted that needs to be healed or released.Yes, totally. That's what it is. We have to
release even the things that we love. And that's why the spiritual path is not just
about doing yoga and meditation. The spiritual path is terrible.
It's not always easy, for sure.That's why I say, "Are you sure?"

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Two weeks of nausea. So yeah, sometimes the awakenings aren't always fun.
Not fun at all.I feel good now, but there
was stuff I had to transmute. I realize that now. But yeah, sometimes there's stuff that goes on
where you're thinking, "What did I sign up for? I know I signed up for it." But that's where I think
the remembrance can be kind of nice because you can at least go back to maybe the lesson.

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But it's painful because imagine with 12 years old to have to remember the worst things that
ever happened to you throughout all history, and none of that makes sense today. So remembering
is not just about understanding the links. Remembering is also about going through every

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emotion that keeps the memory of it. So it's not easy because when you start to wonder,
"Who am I?" the first thing you have to do is to face your dad and your mom and to see, "Oh, I'm a
programming of them," and then grandparents and so on and so on until you reach the first cell. And

(37:48):
for that, you have to face so many fears, beliefs, structures, so many things until you can release
everything. But the problem is if you release everything during your life, that means that
you are-- whether ascended or die, that's--You can't let it all go.
You cannot let it all go because part of that programming is the one that allows you to be

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here. I wouldn't be here talking to you if I don't get attached to part of that program.
Agreed. As we're talking, I'm grateful that I've maybe only seen about 10 because they're not all
good. So for me, the remembrances have happened when there's core events that are going to happen
in my life and I need to see someone or something for what it truly is. And sometimes it's been

(38:36):
like, "Oh, this is an unhealthy attachment," or this is someone that you really love coming
back. And so it can be good stuff, but you have to face the shadow stuff too because we're not
perfect in every lifetime. And sometimes you see aspects of yourself that you wish you didn't. But
I guess that's part of peeling back the pearl, right, and getting to the core of the matter.

(38:58):
Okay. Good. One of the questions that I originally had kind of sent your way was-- and I think we've
touched on this. If there's people that are feeling that they're so stuck or they've made
so many mistakes that they can't move forward, I think we've hopefully given them some tools
here to realize that's not the case. It's just a series of choices. You may not be able to change

(39:20):
the past, but you can change the future. And you can affect how you deal with all of that.
So any advice on releasing-- because you've done a lot of it yourself. How do you release some of
the pain of regret or just past, if we want to call it, a mistake or lesson? What do you do to
contextualize that so it doesn't get in the way of you seeing what's around you, right?

(39:41):
Yeah. Well, as I said at the beginning of the talk, if you try to escape that
in order to be free, so that's the first mistake that we usually do because--
So go deeper is what you're saying?Because that pain, that problem, that thing
that is forbidding you to actually move forward is not something that is in you. It's also you.

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Yeah.So it's like--
Go into the rainforest and let it rain [laughter].Yeah. So it basically is like saying, "You know
what? The left hand is bothering me so I will cut it so I can use better, the right hand."
Yeah, that doesn't make sense.Doesn't make sense. So you might not
be able to write with your left hand because I'm silly with the right hand, so I cannot write with

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it. I'm not fast like with this one. I can do more things. But it doesn't mean that you don't need it
or in order to go to the future and do it faster, you don't need your past and your silliness like
the wage of your soul. So that's why it's important to acknowledge it, to understand

(40:57):
why do you have it? Where does it come from? Because every conflict that we have today, it was
the solution in the past, and when you acknowledge that, like, for example, every fear that we have,
and we say you have to release the fear because fears are the opposite to love, and I think that
when we think in those terms, we are basically, dishonoring the people that discovered that that

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fear was the key for survival.Okay.
So you have that fear within because that saved your ancestors' life.
You were talking in some of your videos about the fear of nighttime or darkness, and it really has
to do with the fact that we have one star, right.Exactly.
So it doesn't mean that the darkness is dangerous. It meant that there were wolves

(41:44):
and things at the nighttime that made it maybe feel that way. But so kind of going to your
belief systems and seeing where they're coming from and maybe where they're limited, is that
kind of what you're hitting on here as well?And honoring that is okay. I feel frustration,
but why because that frustration, it might have been a tool for someone to make me be here today.

(42:11):
Makes sense.So when you go backwards in time and you go to
those specific moments, then you honor the system. You honor what have helped you survive until now.
So when you honor that and you acknowledge this and you thank your ancestor for going through that
experience so you can be here today--Be alive. Yeah.

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Yeah. Now, in that moment, is when you can decide, but that's not the tool that I need now.
Yeah.And in that moment, you choose another tool.
Speaking of tools, we're in a different-- I mean, this is a radically different period
from probably all the past lifetimes that you can remember with technology,

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in particular. I mean, there was technology in Egypt, and we've forgotten some of that.
[Very?] different.Different. Yeah. Artificial intelligence,
different. So I know you've talked about this a little bit before, but how do you feel like as
we go into this next year and this next sort of period of time, what are the biggest challenges
here that we're facing as a modern society that may be-- there's two things. What's new and how

(43:21):
can we prepare for that? And then were there any mistakes or any lessons that maybe some of the
fallen societies went through that we could kind of use to our advantage because history repeats
itself. So given your rich sort of memory.Yeah. Well, we are entering in 2,500 years
ahead of Aquarius and Aquarius is basically technology, innovation, individuality, networks,

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then powering of the self through the freedom of the self. It's completely opposite to the
background that we have from Pisces.For sure. Less structured, too. Yeah.
Yeahand a
lot of spiritual people that remember the purpose of setting themselves free from

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the Pisces point of view will be horrified by Aquarius. Because it's completely unexpected.
We all know some Aquarius person. And you have no idea how to make a plan with them.
It's impossible. Even if you try your best to try to put them in a box and saying, "This is

(44:35):
how it's going to work," they will destroy the box like, "Oh, there was a box. I didn't see
it." It's completely out of whatever you try to expect. So technology and innovation are a very

(44:57):
essential thing in [inaudible] time. And AI is just the beginning. AI is just the door for 2000
years of this story. So it's going to be crazy.Yeah, it can go a few different ways. It can
go dystopia if it's not handled correctly. Because we're already getting a disconnect

(45:21):
between what's real and what isn't. Or it could be positively useful. We'll see.
But we have to think about, for example-- let's think it this way. Because sometimes when we as
humans-- we think in terms of just our life and not as a civilization, so sometimes we

(45:42):
miss some points regarding history and how it worked. You asked the question about the past,
what other civilizations can give us to understand what to do? One of the main things that we can
learn from other civilizations that didn't work, like Atlantis, it's control. And it's not about

(46:08):
just external control. It's about our internal control. We want to be in charge. Our ego,
our center of gravity-- when it's not in the center of gravity, but it's outside
its center of gravity and it's somewhere else, it tries to control. It tries to take benefit
from the most of the energy of the environment. So it says in order for me to be in the center-- even

(46:36):
if I'm not in the center, I want to be in the center. So I would swallow everything that is
around and control everything that is around. Imagine if your ego, instead of being here,
it's in this shoulder. So that means that you will always try to control someone else by giving them
love, money, or stuff like that. Because it's like, "Oh, in that way, I will have everyone--

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I will be the center by controlling someone in my side because I'm not here, I'm here." So in those
terms, think that every civilization has been doing the same when their center is not where it
belongs. It tries to invade, to control the other, to be afraid of, "Maybe if I don't attack first,

(47:20):
they will attack me later." So all of those thoughts are bringing us to the idea of
AI will turn into Terminator.Right.
And the reason why AI can turn into Terminator is because we are Terminator.
The drones are already flying in the sky.Yeah. And I don't know, ask a cow.

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Exactly.Ask a cow. Ask a tree what humans are.
We are Terminators. We are destroyers. We're the worst species ever created in this planet Earth.
We don't have to be. But yeah, there is--Even though we are beautiful, our species
is amazing. It's unbelievable what we can do. It's great. But from the point of view of the

(48:12):
other realms, we are--That's right. Yeah.
From our point of view, it's like, oh, humans, we are the middle point between
angels and-- but from the cow's point of view, from some plants' point of view is like, oh, no,
they are terrible. So now, going backwards in the idea of time, we are just discovering what

(48:36):
technology can do. We have 2,000 years ahead of Aquarius, and we just started. Imagine how
started the Pisces era. Pisces era started 2500 years ago with someone that said, we don't have

(48:59):
to kill a goat in order to honor God. And everyone said, you are crazy. You're crazy. He said, "No,
God is in your path." You have to walk the path of God. You have to find God as you speak with
others and as you commune with the others. That's how you make God. And people said, no, you have

(49:24):
to kill a goat. You have to give offerings to the gods. If you don't bring something to the temple--
They'll punish you. Yeah.Yeah. So that was a huge issue.
But at the end of our civilization, for Pisces, which is the development of science, 18th century,
19th century, we created that. We created the communes. We created the countries. We created

(49:52):
laws. So we lived like, oh, we have democracy. We have philosophy. We have science. We have
organizations. So we accomplished that. But to get there, we had to go through all these holy
wars and fights who was the better God or the very community. And we have to go through-- we don't

(50:16):
have to kill a goat. So it was not easy. It took a long time. And we are right now having the same
conversation between the one that was killing the goat and the one that said, no,
it's just about commune. So we have a long way.Yeah, like I said, history repeats. Unfortunately.

(50:39):
But the essence is kind of the same. So my suggestion for technology and for these
times that are coming is not to pay attention into, oh, my gosh, technology is going to take
over. It's about what is triggering me about--Who's the programmer? Right. We're programming

(51:03):
the technology so we can put some fail safes in. We can choose to do better. So yes,
back to free will once more.Yeah.
Okay, that's good. So one thing that I think that we so much focus on work, I love that you produce
music that you are-- what do you do to kind of take yourself out of, again, focusing so much

(51:29):
on the past or the future. What are your current projects and ways that you're kind of connecting
to make a difference right now? And this is also a chance to plug some of that, too, because I know
one of your purposes on the planet is to teach. So talk a little bit about-- music is great fun. So
I'd love to know what you do for fun, what you're trying to do right now to kind of make an impact

(51:53):
or some changes, and if people want to connect with some of that stuff where they could find you.
Well, we're of course trying to rearrange a lot of things and a lot of projects for or next year.
So we're going to be sharing all of that slowly because we are putting shape on all
apps. But we are basically-- the essence of everything is that we are trying to build a

(52:19):
new state of consciousness. And in order to build a new state of consciousness,
what we need is to think in terms of how a state is formed. And also a country, a state of being,
a state of a nation. So the project that I am working on is, we have to go to the philosophy of

(52:48):
every nation, of every human. What is the origin of all the stories? And try to tie all the stories
to make sense to one another, to reframe our way of thinking from the very beginning. What is the
origin of all our thinkings? So we have to reframe that, rethink about why those stories exist. And

(53:14):
once we do that, we say, "Okay, this is our story, but what is your part in the story?" So we are
going to tell a story through making encounters, festivals that we are going to organize in every
sources and equinox from next year on. And by creating a method of designing a path to organize

(53:43):
all this information. So we are going to create-- with the help of technology, we are developing
apps and platforms that can help the individuals to discover what is their part on that story.
To reframe it, to make a new sense of that. So to build up slowly and a conscious individual

(54:06):
for a conscious society. So the first stage is, "Let's tell a story." To invite people on
a platform where they can organize the whole thing themselves so they can then access to
projects that they can help to one another towards the development of the idea of a new philosophy

(54:29):
nation based in a different social system that I describe as ontocracy, which is based in biology.
So it's three stages of the project. First the storytelling, then the platform to reorganize
the being, and then the manifestation of that new state of consciousness, which is how can we

(54:55):
create a new nation that is conscious and walking the path within to transcend the [whole?] story.
The ontocracy, that also has harmony is one of the tenets of that, right? Or trying to find--
and also equity, ff I remember reading up, there's more shared knowledge shared,

(55:15):
almost back to that initial planet that you talked about where everything was connected. Is that
correct? Kind of like in that same vision?Yes. To reach there we have to release the
control. We have to release the idea of control. That's why the first thing that you have to do
as a conscious being in a new society is to walk backwards until you release all the need

(55:43):
of control so you can trust the others. So that's one of the main things of this conscious society.
And the reference I was giving too was one of your earliest remembrances was a planet where
it was kind of like you were very connected to the planet and to each other. It was a
lot more networked is a good way to describe it. Everyone was plugged in, is that correct?

(56:04):
Yes yes.So this seems like a
natural outgrowth of that, if I'm following. Yeah.Of course, yes. But they got there because they
evolved with the planet. And what does it mean? We as humans still have this thought that we

(56:26):
are living on a planet, but--It's symbiotic time.
-- it's going to take a long time to realize that we are the planet.
We literally come from the stuff from the planet.Yeah, we are made of the minerals that are in the
mountains, in the ocean, just organized in a different way. But we are the plant. We

(56:49):
are not beings living on Earth.Harnessing it, using it. Yes.
Yeah. And it's crazy how people still believe that, oh, we are just random things that are
living on a rock, and it's not like that. So when we start to think in those terms,

(57:10):
like some of those planets that I remember, they did, they don't have any problem with merging with
the mountains. They don't have any problems with merging with the plants. We do. We have
this thing of, "No, we have to be humane." What makes us human? The thing that makes us human
is being earth, not mammals. So we think that to be human is to be like a monkey, like a hominid,

(57:40):
and not to be human is to be earth. So that means that you have to merge with mushrooms,
you have to merge with plants, you have to merge with technology. This phone here is actually
silica. So this is the same crystals that you use to meditate, but organized in a different way.
Different types of glass, but yeah.Different types of glass, different

(58:03):
types of organizations. So if we think that everything that is outside is just a tool for
human beings to be enlightened, so we are still believing that there is a God above the clouds
and hell under the mountains. So that's why the civilizations in that planet, like [Luddok?],

(58:25):
that planet that I remember, they managed to-- they don't go to other worlds and say, I come from
the planet [Luddok?]. They say, I am [Luddok?]. Yeah, they say, this is me. This is I am a cell
of this world because they became one with it.I mean, honestly, I think that's the biggest shift

(58:46):
that we need to make, which is rather than-- I was even thinking about it before this interview. We
call it real estate, but it's actually like artificial lines that we create and then we
carve it up and sell it. So we try to market it in a certain way, but we're all connected
energetically, compositionally. We have our own sort of different energy, but we are connected in

(59:10):
the same way that the network-- that we're able to talk across time and space right now. So if
we could see the similarities and quit punishing or judging because of the differentiating pieces,
because it goes back to what we were talking about earlier, positive and negative or light
and dark, it's just all different sides of the same hole. Is that correct?
Yeah. And it all takes us to consciousness. Because, for example, when someone becomes a

(59:38):
spiritual person connected to a tree, and suddenly it's like I connected to the tree and I connected
to Mother Nature, sometimes we start to criticize society and we start to say, this is wrong,
or technology is not good because it disconnects you from the actual connectivity. But without my 0:59:58.440,1:00:06.200 computer here and without your computer there and  wi-fi and everything, we wouldn't be here speaking 1:00:06.200,1:00:15.080 and sharing this with so many people. So this  technology, it's also part of the consciousness. 1:00:15.080,1:00:20.240 It's kind of psychic too, because we can do things  in real time that would require telepathy, but it 1:00:20.240,1:00:27.480 is kind of like we're getting more connected if we  can stop focusing on the things that don't matter. 1:00:27.480,1:00:29.000 Totally. Totally. Because there's great tools 1:00:29.000,1:00:33.200 for connection, but we do still focus on-- it's  almost like the shirt that I'm wearing does not 1:00:33.200,1:00:38.880 define me. It's just what I chose to wear today. Yeah. I think that when we speak in terms of 1:00:38.880,1:00:47.320 evolution, some people are losing a lot of time on  thinking if the knife is good or bad. It's just a 1:00:47.320,1:00:52.720 knife. So with a knife you can kill someone  or save someone's life. So it's not about if 1:00:52.720,1:00:59.280 the tool is good or bad. It's about how we use  it. How we use our consciousness. How aware are 1:00:59.280,1:01:05.040 we about the reality that we live in and what  we create. So it's not about if technology is 1:01:05.040,1:01:11.040 bad or civilization is bad, or if the planet  should be better connected to something. No, 1:01:11.040,1:01:17.880 it's not about that. It's about how aware and  conscious you're going to use the same thing. 1:01:17.880,1:01:29.480 So that's why I think the biggest challenge that  we have for the future is to stop judging the tool 1:01:30.640,1:01:39.720 or that aspect of myself. To stop judging and to  start acknowledging which is completely different. 1:01:39.720,1:01:43.280 It's weird because I feel like there's  almost more of a shift between, like, 1:01:43.280,1:01:51.280 with Aquarius coming in versus 2000. So that was  an interesting year that was invented. But there's 1:01:51.280,1:01:55.960 more of an energetic shift. So this to me feels  more like a century shift here. There's a lot 1:01:55.960,1:02:02.200 more going on right now in this moment. And  again, it kind of boils down to slowing down, 1:02:02.200,1:02:10.360 tuning in, making choices, maybe smarter  choices. But yeah, it's kind of like that's 1:02:10.360,1:02:16.520 the cool thing on this planet is free will. But  we sometimes forget that we have the free will. 1:02:16.520,1:02:25.080 Yes, the free will. Of course. Of course. That  we are so conditioned by so many things. That we 1:02:25.080,1:02:34.520 don't have free will until we become conscious. So  we don't have actual free will until you realize 1:02:34.520,1:02:41.640 that you are everything. So when you realize, oh,  I'm everything. So, for example, I was having a 1:02:41.640,1:02:53.040 conversation today with a friend that-- she  told me maybe I'm here to help you to become 1:02:53.040,1:03:05.160 more patient. Because I'm not patient at all. So  she told me her mastery is to be patient, which is 1:03:05.160,1:03:13.200 not my mastery for sure. So. But sometimes where  we confuse-- and that was our conversation. Where 1:03:13.200,1:03:20.640 we confuse, sometimes it's like, oh, maybe then  I have to learn how to be patient, for example. 1:03:20.640,1:03:30.120 And it's not that. It's that I have to become  aware that if I expand myself, I realize that 1:03:30.120,1:03:40.000 she is my patient in my life. She's the one, that  mastery patient, to teach in her presence for me 1:03:40.000,1:03:50.120 to be able to express patience. So it's not that.  So when you realize, oh, you are another me, so 1:03:50.120,1:03:57.080 you are mastering that, and I can give you this. And when we become one together, you don't have to 1:03:57.080,1:04:06.960 give me something for me to change. I just have  to expand myself to be part of you. So when we 1:04:06.960,1:04:14.280 change this concept, this point of view of, "Oh,  maybe I have to get enlightened. So I have to be," 1:04:14.280,1:04:22.280 I don't know, "Buddhist and have to do everything  like Christ would do." And no, I had once a very 1:04:22.280,1:04:31.000 intense meditation where I saw Buddha and Buddha  explained me everything. And I was like, "If you 1:04:31.000,1:04:39.280 are explaining me this, so why I'm not-- if I get  what you're saying, why I'm not enlightened?" And 1:04:39.280,1:04:50.520 Buddha said, "Because I already am. So you do  you. I do me. And when you connect with me, 1:04:50.520,1:04:57.320 you are also enlightened. But if you become  enlightened, then you are not doing your part." 1:04:57.320,1:05:04.640 So I found that so interesting in that moment. Well, it also takes pressure off because there 1:05:04.640,1:05:09.960 are certain things that we should be focusing on.  Otherwise, you become like the generalist trying 1:05:09.960,1:05:14.840 to do everything but nothing really well. There's  a card in Tarot, the Magician, it has everything 1:05:14.840,1:05:20.080 in front of it. But discernment is the tool that  the magician has to use to progress to the next 1:05:20.080,1:05:24.400 card. Because if you try to use everything, you'll  just be stuck, or you're not going to make a lot 1:05:24.400,1:05:29.200 of progress. So I agree. You have to be discerning  and decide, "What's my calling? What can I really 1:05:29.200,1:05:36.160 focus on?" And, yeah, surround yourself by amazing  people. Even just as we were going to connect, 1:05:36.160,1:05:42.200 I felt the energy and the resonance even across  distances. So you pick up on people in your field 1:05:42.200,1:05:47.080 and so positive people, positive energy, positive  traction. But you don't have to be everything. 1:05:47.080,1:05:50.440 There's plenty of people on the planet to do  different things. So I agree with you on that. 1:05:50.440,1:05:52.760 Exactly. Yeah. Quick question. I 1:05:52.760,1:05:59.280 love the way you kind of talked about the Akashic  Records, but you mentioned it almost like a spinal 1:05:59.280,1:06:04.920 cord or a cord to God. Can you talk a little  bit about how you connected with the Akashic 1:06:04.920,1:06:09.280 Records? Because I'm sure a lot of people  that watch this would be interested in that. 1:06:09.280,1:06:17.280 Akashic Records, for me, it's like if you have the  biggest beehive in the entire cosmos, where every 1:06:17.280,1:06:25.240 data is a bee harmonizing a specific frequency,  which is the data and information, and it goes 1:06:25.240,1:06:33.280 through all existence. So actually, there's  nothing else but that. All that we experience 1:06:33.280,1:06:42.600 is just an expression of that record. And just  because of the different frequencies, you leave 1:06:42.600,1:06:51.752 one reality or the other, one expression or the  other. But actually it's like this [loop hole?]. 1:06:51.752,1:06:52.360 Musical? Huh? 1:06:52.360,1:06:57.200 Is it musical for you, kind of? It's like an orchestra. Yeah, 1:06:57.200,1:07:03.160 it's all like [inaudible]. This is how I-- I've not connected with that, 1:07:03.160,1:07:09.160 but I imagined it in a book that I wrote as, I  called it, the Akashic Sea. But I was like, "What 1:07:09.160,1:07:14.360 if you could just pick a chord or put-- so I could  hear music?" So to me, it would be musical too, 1:07:14.360,1:07:19.280 because you'd be tuning into the frequency. So  that was fascinating. I was just kind of curious 1:07:19.280,1:07:25.760 what your connection was. But again, I guess  we can also try to put our own sort of spin on 1:07:25.760,1:07:30.000 how we understand it. So to someone else  it could be completely different. Correct. 1:07:30.000,1:07:36.760 When I started to explain what I was seeing, I  had to describe a library. Because it was very 1:07:36.760,1:07:42.560 difficult for me to say, "Well, the books." How  do you describe data in a human way? You have 1:07:42.560,1:07:50.560 to describe books. But actually when you see how  the data works, that is not a book. It's spheres 1:07:52.000,1:08:00.480 that are not in the shape of a sphere that are  actually waves, so yeah. And it's beautiful to 1:08:00.480,1:08:11.280 see - I don't know - these vibrations that does  it's so beautiful how it moves. It's orgasmic. 1:08:11.280,1:08:14.480 But how can you explain that? You can't. 1:08:14.480,1:08:21.040 So suddenly you say, oh, fairies. When I wrote the chapter, I talked about exactly 1:08:21.040,1:08:25.720 what I felt today which was vertigo-- or a couple  weeks ago, which is vertigo because sometimes 1:08:25.720,1:08:32.360 when your human brain tries to contextualize  and articulate, there's only so many things that 1:08:32.360,1:08:38.440 words can do. I've had a couple experiences with  archangels where their download is just visuals, 1:08:38.440,1:08:42.280 they don't actually-- you get the word.  You can ascribe meaning to what you see 1:08:42.280,1:08:47.600 but they don't use words. Have you ever had  that experience with some extra-dimensional 1:08:47.600,1:08:51.920 beings, whatever we want to call them? Yeah, of course. Yeah. The language and 1:08:51.920,1:09:01.320 the images are like-- I think that a way  to explain why, for example, some beings, 1:09:01.840,1:09:07.520 when you channel some beings, it's so difficult  to speak in other languages, for example. And 1:09:07.520,1:09:14.320 they usually speak your language in the same way  as you see the sky blue when it's actually not. 1:09:14.320,1:09:19.320 It's true. That's just the light  that's not-- yeah, you're right. 1:09:19.320,1:09:24.080 Yeah. So it's your brain. It's your brain. Also, our human eyes perceive it differently 1:09:24.080,1:09:28.720 than a cat or a dog or a bird. Yeah. Exactly. Because it's your brain capturing 1:09:28.720,1:09:34.200 a different wavelength of how the photons move. It's what wasn't absorbed usually that we see, 1:09:34.200,1:09:38.880 right? So everything but the blue. And that's  why at sunset, the longer waves come across. 1:09:38.880,1:09:48.160 Exactly. Yeah. So your brain interprets  information. So when a being from other 1:09:48.160,1:09:52.600 dimension tries to speak to you-- We'll Just do a picture book. 1:09:52.600,1:09:55.320 It's kind of like that. Yeah. Most of the information, 1:09:56.000,1:09:58.440 what happened? It will be absorbed. Yeah. 1:09:58.440,1:10:03.800 So the only thing that you will receive  is what keeps on going. So that's why 1:10:03.800,1:10:10.920 it's so tiny and it's so difficult to actually  grasp the whole idea of what they are sharing 1:10:12.000,1:10:18.240 because not like maybe just a tiny little  percentage of it actually reaches your brain. 1:10:18.240,1:10:24.440 True. That makes sense. I do a lot of dream  interpretation too. And the same thing there. 1:10:24.440,1:10:31.080 You're shown symbols, you're shown abstracts, and  you have to do your best to kind of break it down 1:10:31.080,1:10:37.240 into things that make sense. But that makes sense  to me. So I think it'll help people to realize 1:10:37.240,1:10:43.240 that intuition is also-- it's subjective and  it's abstract and it's personal. And so there's 1:10:43.240,1:10:48.240 no right or wrong way. I think that's one kind of  takeaway from this, is we all have our different 1:10:48.240,1:10:52.280 ways of connecting. So however you want to tune  in, I feel like that's the main thing here, 1:10:52.280,1:10:57.760 is make sure you're making some time to do so. There has been a lot of people that when they 1:10:57.760,1:11:04.600 start to connect with themselves, they usually  ask me, but what if I am making it up? What if 1:11:04.600,1:11:13.400 it's all my imagination? I say, of course, it  is. Of course, it is. That's why keep imagining 1:11:13.400,1:11:20.640 because all the world that you see around is  just an interpretation of your brain. So if 1:11:20.640,1:11:25.240 you want to change that reality, the first thing  you have to do is to change here, not change that. 1:11:26.160,1:11:35.360 So imagining a new reality, it can create the way  you live that reality. So that's why it's like, 1:11:35.360,1:11:40.520 okay, I'm channeling, I don't know, an archangel. Yeah. 1:11:40.520,1:11:49.200 And you believe it. And I say, well, it's  actually not an archangel but if you imagine 1:11:49.200,1:11:54.280 that and believe that, you eventually  will tune with information of that. So 1:11:54.840,1:12:02.680 that's why we have to like kids. How kids can  learn so many things in such a short time? 1:12:02.680,1:12:06.760 Right. Because of imagination. They are still 1:12:06.760,1:12:11.840 open without any limits that they allow themselves  to be an astronaut, they allow themselves to 1:12:11.840,1:12:15.560 be a cat. At the same time, they allow-- So they believe they can because no one's 1:12:15.560,1:12:19.200 told them that-- well, hopefully hasn't told  them that they can't because that's when the 1:12:19.200,1:12:23.760 blocks start to come up. But yeah, you're right. And that's why they can learn many languages, 1:12:23.760,1:12:30.080 they can learn culture, they can learn so  many things. It's amazing the amount of data 1:12:30.080,1:12:35.080 that they can storage just because they're  able to imagine. And we lost that ability 1:12:35.080,1:12:43.440 because someone told us this is the truth. Yeah, a gift to all the listeners out there. 1:12:43.440,1:12:48.040 You can be intuitive if you believe in your  own sort of voice. You just have to kind of 1:12:48.040,1:12:54.080 trust in that. Tune into that regularly and keep  practicing. I think that's a good piece of advice. 1:12:54.080,1:12:59.000 Yeah. Practice how to imagine. Reconnect to it. Because again, 1:12:59.000,1:13:04.760 we don't get playtime anymore when we're adults.  So unfortunately. So the last thing here that I 1:13:04.760,1:13:11.280 want to talk about here is one of the videos that  you recently published. You were saying some souls 1:13:11.280,1:13:16.360 might be getting ready to kind of permanently  move into a different-- leave the planet or 1:13:16.360,1:13:21.560 go somewhere else. How long do you think souls  will kind of stick around on this planet? Is it 1:13:21.560,1:13:28.360 a choice? Is it something where you've signed  up for it? What is your take on reincarnation 1:13:28.360,1:13:36.040 on Earth, for instance, and ascension, etc.? Yeah, well, most of us are related to this planet, 1:13:36.040,1:13:43.400 and it's very difficult to leave this planet.  Because it's like gravity. Once you are inside 1:13:43.400,1:13:52.200 a planet, your soul is energy, so it's  going to be bounded by magnetism. Your 1:13:52.200,1:13:59.160 mind will be also aligned by magnetism. Your  body is stuck by gravity because of the weight 1:13:59.160,1:14:06.240 of the planet. So it's very difficult to leave  this world unless you manage somehow to escape 1:14:06.240,1:14:16.760 the gravity of the moon. So, for example, an  astronaut that goes farther from the moon and 1:14:16.760,1:14:25.040 dies farther than the moon, it's easier for  that person to actually go somewhere else-- 1:14:25.880,1:14:31.280 Makes sense. --in terms of space and time. Most of us, 1:14:31.280,1:14:38.400 we are constantly coming back once and again,  and we are so stuck with the idea of what this 1:14:38.400,1:14:47.600 planet is that we are always coming back to  this reality. But the interesting thing is, 1:14:47.600,1:14:54.640 the reason why we do that is because our minds  are not quantic. We don't think in terms of the 1:14:54.640,1:15:00.600 quantum realms. We think in terms of the atomic  realm. And when we think in terms of atomic, 1:15:00.600,1:15:07.560 then we are bounded by magnetism, which keeps  us trapped constantly in life after life, 1:15:07.560,1:15:14.320 after life after life. But if you manage  to, instead of trying to go out of this 1:15:14.320,1:15:24.960 planet to go within the particles until  you reach the middle point between muons, 1:15:26.760,1:15:36.920 where there's no gravity, when you manage to  escape that inside, then you're everywhere, and 1:15:36.920,1:15:42.080 you expand in any planet, any galaxy, anywhere,  because you're not bounded anymore by the laws 1:15:42.080,1:15:53.560 of physics. So that's why the only way out is in. It's counterintuitive, but it makes sense. Well, 1:15:53.560,1:15:59.800 before you wrap up, if people want to learn more  about you and want to connect with the next event, 1:15:59.800,1:16:06.040 the next production, what's the best place for  them to connect? Your website, obviously, and we 1:16:06.040,1:16:09.680 can put a graphic up with that. Is there anything  else that they should be taking a look at? 1:16:09.680,1:16:15.400 There are. Well, the Instagram. I usually share  everything through my Instagram. Everything, 1:16:15.400,1:16:19.680 any project, anything that I'm doing.  So you can search it like that. And 1:16:19.680,1:16:22.400 we're going to be sharing everything there. I just want to say thank you so much. This 1:16:22.400,1:16:27.960 was a really enjoyable conversation. I hope that  everybody got a lot out of it as well, and I look 1:16:27.960,1:16:34.064 forward to seeing what you guys produce next. Thank you. Thank you very much. 1:16:34.064,1:16:37.440 Thanks, Matias. 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