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Welcome to the Nick Oliveri show. I am your host, the host, Nick Oliveri, Ukrainian-born, five-time United States independent, best-selling author.
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Independent author. And I still maintain that.
Got a collection of poems coming out April 1st.
Yeah, I know a lot of people call it April Fool's Day, but it's April 1st. Happens to come out on April Fool's Day.
It's a collection of poems called This Book is Expensive.
Anyways, this is the show, if you're just seeing it now, where we talk about great art, great people, and the many things in between.
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So we have a lot of broad categories.
And if you like my allegories, if you like my metaphors, or if you like how I tie patterns, or at least elicute patterns,
in between certain happenings in pop culture, arts, entertainment, sports, media, you name it, then hang on.
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Let's go.
I got something to get off my chest right now.
I got something to get off my chest.
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh.
I got something to get off my chest right now.
Star Wars.
Disney. I'm coming for ya.
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I'm coming for ya.
I'm doing it.
Let's go. Let's go right into it.
Disney ruined Star Wars.
Rogue One was the only good thing that happened.
That came out before episode 8 in the canon The Last Jedi.
Star Wars ruined.
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Or, my apologies, I wish I could talk right now.
Disney ruined Star Wars.
They maimed it, and they assaulted it.
They found it in a back alley, vulnerable, and they pantsed it, and had their way with it.
They took it for everything it had, and now it has nothing left.
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Do you know what you should do with an IP like Star Wars, which basically comes around every, oh, I don't know,
50 years, 100 years, maybe every lifetime?
Once in a lifetime?
Nurture it.
Listen to the fans.
You know, the people that made it what it was.
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What a novel idea from a novelist.
What a novel idea. What a novel idea.
What a new revelatory idea. Oh wait, it's not new, it's not revelatory.
Let's walk through a few things.
I saw, and by the way, if this is the first time you're seeing or listening to this podcast,
The Nick Oliveri Show by Nick Oliveri.
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I'm a bestselling novelist and fashion designer, and I will go on pseudo-rants with pseudo-tangents,
and I will tie everything back into a concept, so please bear with me. Come on now.
I saw a clip the other day.
I forget what platform it was on. I was probably doom-scrolling on Instagram.
I do it more than I like, but a little less than most people should.
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So, it was a Vince Vaughn.
Vince Vaughn who has been, you could say blacklisted from Hollywood.
Name the last movie Vince Vaughn was big in. Vince Vaughn.
I'm talking dodgeball. I'm talking wedding crashers.
I'm talking, well, he's been in a lot, and he's made tens to hundreds of millions of dollars off Hollywood.
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He is a gigantic star and was an A-lister, and now he's not.
I'm not really going to broach the topic of Vince Vaughn specifically right now, but let me tell you what he said.
He was in a very candid interview because, granted, he has F-U money.
Do you know what F stands for? It stands for F-U-C blank.
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U, money. Meaning he can say what he wants and get away with it.
Because there aren't going to be repercussions that are big enough, strong enough,
or with enough sharp teeth and enough PSI in that bite to hurt him at all.
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He's probably got six houses. If he doesn't have six, he probably has four, right?
He's doing good. He's Vince Vaughn. Everyone knows him.
I love the guy. At least I love his work anyway.
He had a quote. I'm not going to say it verbatim. Sorry.
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I'm not going to say it verbatim, but let me tell you what he said, roughly paraphrasing,
but I'm going to capture the essence of what he said. He said,
OK, here's the deal with Hollywood today.
And granted, he didn't come off as bitter because he doesn't have to.
He's Vince Vaughn and he has a ton of money. A ton.
Like, if you think a ton of money is 25 grand or 50 grand or a million dollars or five million dollars,
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Vince Vaughn has more than you. Way more.
So when I say a ton of money, I mean a ton of money.
Vince Vaughn. So he didn't come off as bitter.
He just came off as candid and normal when he said, hear me clearly, Vince Vaughn in an interview
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in this specific maybe Instagram real. I kind of forget.
It was either Instagram or Facebook, something meta related, right?
Meta, meta, praise be to Meta, Facebook.
He said, basically, Hollywood is now scared to delve into new IPs.
They only recycle old ones because it's safe.
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Hollywood does not want new ideas.
They are castigating people that want to come up and in companies, people, entities, creatives and artists
that want to come up with new ideas and new IPs to mass market.
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And I mean really put the machine in the capital by Israel.
Oh, boy, we just got I just opened a can of worms there.
But like, yeah, by Israel and the Mossad and the bankers that be in the Hollywood total machine
that is, by the way, I'm Ashkenaz, that is Hollywood.
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You can't get a fully Hollywood backed project if it is not either a Scorsese film has Leo in it,
which probably is directed by Scorsese Spielberg, some giant name like Tom Cruise.
Or if it's an IP that's been around since the 60s, 70s, 80s or 90s, you can't do it.
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You can't do it. And he said this.
And it made me think about my goodness, Star Wars.
Star Wars was about 25 percent of my childhood.
You can call me a nerd, a loser. You can call me a weirdo for that.
I'm not sorry. I'm not going to apologize for putting a huge emphasis on Star Wars.
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I was born in 2000 in Nikolai of Ukraine. I was forgotten as an orphan there.
I was eventually adopted by a wonderful family in the United States
and brought to the northeast of the U.S.
And throughout growing up, I watched Star Wars Revenge of the Sith.
It was a success written and directed by George Lucas.
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Episode three, but the final episode under George Lucas's control of Star Wars to come out.
I watched it in theaters. Yes, I was five years old.
I was born in 2000.
And then we got it on DVD. And then we got disc one and disc two, the bonus track.
Bonus track, bonus track. Real ones now.
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Look them up. They were a cool sketch group, kind of low key.
They're kind of underground, can peel. You wouldn't know them.
Bonus track. I got the bonus discs to Star Wars Revenge of the Sith.
I watched and have seen Star Wars Revenge of the Sith, Empire Strikes Back,
Return of the Jedi and probably Phantom Menace, those four movies of Star Wars.
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A collective aggregate of about.
I'm being dead serious and saying this in full earnest, earnestness.
I can only be authentic on this because if I wasn't, I wouldn't be doing it.
Just like my writing. I wouldn't write if I couldn't be earnest.
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Do you understand?
So I have seen those four movies and take the entire first six movies of the Star Wars trilogy
from Episode One Phantom Menace all the way to Episode Six, Return of the Jedi,
in not chronological order.
I have seen every Star Wars movie in aggregate, in aggregate, about 150 times, 150 times.
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It was about a quarter of my childhood.
Now the rest of it was playing outside. It was playing roller hockey.
I played roller hockey till, or sorry, not roller hockey.
I played roller hockey in the neighborhood. I played street hockey on my feet.
I played ice hockey and all sorts of hockey until I was about 19, 20 years old.
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For about 18 years of my life, literally.
I loved Pokemon, but you know what?
Star Wars, Anakin, Luke Skywalker, the hero's journey, Joseph Campbell, you ever heard of it?
Luke Skywalker was a whiny little bitch when he was on Tatooine at about 19, 20 years old.
Kind of the same time I started, or rather stopped playing hockey.
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He was on Tatooine and he was whiny.
He wasn't ready for his destiny. He didn't really want to do anything, but he was curious.
He was curious for the journey. He was curious.
And Obi-Wan came, right?
That collection of six movies, that bifurcation of the two trilogies that come together,
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the prequels and the sequels, old heads that are listening to this might say,
well the prequels are kind of garbage. There are a few good moments in Revenge of the Sith.
Younger folks that are about my age or even younger might say,
well the prequels triumph, the prequels are just straight up better, scabitty toilet, whatever.
I'm saying to you right now, those six movies, that arc,
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is one of the most beautiful, grandiose, operatic, maximalist, yet simple, best, greatest
movie franchises of all time. If not the best.
The most revelatory, the most revolutionary, and yes the revolution was televised.
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He changed the game and by he I mean George Lucas.
He inspired so much of my childhood as Zelda did, as Pokemon did, as literally leaves on branches did.
You know you have childlike wonder and then when you have that such boundless energy
and that open mind of a child and you're exposed to something like Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith
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and you watch it on repeat when you're sick and you watch it six times in a day every time you're sick
and then ten times on a weekend and then once per day?
You memorize all the lines. I know all the lines.
Hello there. I want more, but I know that I shouldn't.
That's Star Wars to me. Star Wars is my childhood.
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I watched Revenge of the Sith as a very young person for a Star Wars enjoyer, right?
A lot of Star Wars folks, you know, Star Wars came out in the, I believe, in the 70s.
A New Hope came out.
I've never been very impressed by that movie, but I've seen it countless times.
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Maybe a dozen, maybe two dozen times. Star Wars A New Hope.
I don't think it's a very good movie.
The rest of the series? Fantastic. Attack of the Clones, whatever.
I don't want to get into semantics here. What I'm trying to tell you is I love Star Wars.
What am I going to bring this back to and why did I mention Vince Vaughn before this?
Well, Disney bought the IP from George Lucas for about four billion dollars.
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It wasn't an undisclosed amount, but who knows how many backroom dealings
and I haven't looked at the paperwork of like how he sold the franchise.
So, but granted he gave up creative control and most likely most if not all royalties
and ownership of the Star Wars intellectual property to a company called,
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I don't know if you've ever heard of them, Disney.
Why is this important? Because Disney killed my childhood.
Disney scarred me. I have spoken to war veterans.
I have spoken to folks that have been in combat.
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I have spoken to people close to me or even just acquaintances of mine
that have either been attacked, mugged or even sexually assaulted.
I am not downplaying their experiences.
What I am saying is I went through the five stages of grief and got,
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I don't know what the DSM would say about this, but low grade PTSD
by watching episode eight of Disney Star Wars or supposedly the Star Wars canon.
Disney made a new trilogy once they bought it immediately.
They had something, something, something movie, which was episode seven.
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I watched it on my couch with my dad. I didn't bother going to the theaters.
And they said, or he said, you know, yeah, it's J.J. Abrams, man.
He's like, reliable. I watched it.
I watched Ray as a strong female character. And I said, that's fine.
I saw Finn and I was like, man, there's promise there.
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I think at the end, I saw Emperor Snoke and I was like, hey, what does he do?
That's interesting. It wasn't the greatest movie.
I left some, if not a lot to be desired. And I saw Luke Skywalker at the end.
Trust me, I'm going to tie this back to Vince Vaughn.
I'm going to tie this back to publishing.
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I'm going to tie this back to the corporate establishment in the arts
and entertainment field in general in just a couple moments.
But bear with me. This is passion unbridled, unsaddled, stallion in the wind.
Bear with me.
I watched episode seven with my father.
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I watched episode five with my father when I was five years old.
Do the math. If I'm recording this in February of twenty twenty five
and I was born in May, I am twenty four years old.
I went to the theaters and saw episode three Revenge of the Sith in theaters.
Guess who took me? My father, whom I love so much, who has given me,
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granted me and equipped me with all the wisdom and but also culture.
He gave me the gift of Star Wars.
Him and I, the amount of times we watched Empire Strikes Back,
would probably sicken a lot of you.
Or if you're here, it might impress you or you might or it might underwhelm you.
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You're like, no, I've actually watched just that movie about two hundred and seventy times.
You've only seen it like 40 times. OK, fine.
Star Wars is a big part of me and a big part of my childhood.
So when I went in theaters.
And saw.
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Star Wars. Supposedly.
Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man. Supposedly it was called Star Wars, the last Jedi.
And the parent company was. Of course, at Disney, right?
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I. Said, hey, you know what?
Episode seven by Disney. I forget the name of it.
I don't really care. Was fine.
It left a lot to be desired, but you know what? It's set up.
Episode eight.
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Episode eight wasn't directed by by J.J. Abrams.
It was directed by a lowly, shit eating worm.
Whose name is Ryan Johnson, R.I. not Y.I.A.N. Johnson.
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It was episode eight of Star Wars, supposedly Star Wars.
I don't count it as Star Wars. I saw it in theaters with my father.
He said, hey, bud, just letting you know, you know, I went into theaters and saw this with your uncle and, you know.
It wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen.
And that was him being polite and trying to tamper and temper my expectations for the movie.
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And all in my head, while he was saying that and downplaying the movie, he didn't say it was awful,
although he thought it was awful in his head.
He didn't tell me that on the way to the theater.
And this was much later. This was like either 2014, 15 or 16.
Right. When I was 14, 15 or 16, because I'm a centarian.
Right. Or centurion, whatever.
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I'm telling you right now, I went through the five stages of grief during and after I watched that movie.
Episode supposedly eight of Star Wars, the canon, directed by R.I.A.N. Johnson, who is a war criminal and a rapist.
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He raped Star Wars.
He was offended by me saying that word.
Go watch the movie yourself.
Live my life and then see what you would say.
Do it. Do it.
I know it's a sensitive topic nowadays, but if you lived in, say, the 1290s or the early 1300s in a village
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and the Mongols came knocking at your village door, your city doors,
they think you would throw that our word rape around a lot more.
R.I.A.N. Johnson is a war criminal.
R.I.A.N. Johnson is an abuser.
R.I.A.N. Johnson is a thief.
R.I.A.N. Johnson is the director of the single worst, not just movie, worst piece of media I've ever seen.
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Period.
Since we're already 20 minutes in, I can't give you a review of the movie because it would sicken me.
It's called The Last Jedi, Star Wars The Last Jedi, Episode 8.
But it's not Star Wars, folks.
When my dad downplayed the movie, I was just like, you know what?
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Kylo Ren is an interesting figure.
I don't know what Rey's up to.
There's this guy Poe who's kind of cool.
He's like a pseudo younger Han Solo guy.
He's like a gunslinger kind of dude.
They got Finn, like the ex Stormtrooper-esque guy who rebelled and whatever.
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It broke my heart.
It was like any other...
It was one of the worst breakups I've had in my life, and I mean that.
You say, you're a loser, Nick.
You're a nerd, Nick.
You're weird.
Sure.
Label me.
Label me all you want.
I'm not going to go into the review of the movie.
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I am going to say that Disney, when they bought from George Lucas for X billion dollars, billion with a B, by the way,
B isn't B or buzzing or bastard as the corporation of Disney is, a bastard.
It's a bastard.
As I was when I was born in Nikolayev, Ukraine, or now Mikolayev, Ukraine, a bombed city with bridges burned, destroyed.
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Disney.
I have been boycotting their products since 2016 when I saw that movie for myself with my own eyes.
I wanted to leave the theater so badly.
But even back then when I was 16, still a minor, under the roof of my parents' house, I just respected my dad enough to say I'll stick it out.
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But I didn't want to.
I wanted to leave.
And when I say I went through the five stages of grief, I mean I literally looked up the five stages of grief after I was discussing the film with my dad.
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It was so horrendous. I haven't even been consuming Hulu and barely and rarely an ESPN clip because I know Disney owns ESPN now.
And ESPN, by the way, has become a shell of its former self.
They don't do anything fun.
They never give incisive, insightful takes.
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They never do anything good.
ESPN is rarely, if ever, making the right move and they just want to control you like the motherfuckers they are, like the cockroaches they are.
They will never go away because they have funding from the Fed and the Mossad and all sorts of bankers.
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I'm sure do well, doisha, but I call them Dusha Bank.
I bet they have lines with them.
I bet they have lines with Wells Fargo, Trafic and Children.
You know what? De-platform me.
This hurt me to no end.
I'm an existentialist.
I believe that the experience of one individual is infinitely, if not insanely and utterly important.
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My experience with this movie wrecked a lot of my childhood.
Did I ever say the A word in this podcast, Anakin?
It defeated the purpose of Anakin.
It defeated the purpose of the Force.
It defeated the purpose of the Republic, of the Jedi Council and the Jedi Order.
It defeated the purpose of the Sith.
It defeated the purpose of quite literally everything.
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What does Vince Vaughn have to do with this?
Oh, you were wondering.
I went on a little bit of a rant.
A little bit of a rant there.
Let's put a smile on it.
I'm just kidding.
Vince Vaughn said it himself.
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Disney is not going to go out and make some new IP.
And then detractors of me are saying, well, Nick, you sexist, racist bigot who is going against Disney,
who is clearly fighting the establishment.
Disney is fighting the establishment and is an ally for feminism.
Retarded take.
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They bought Star Wars.
Yes, they created a couple of new IPs as an intellectual property, if you don't know what that is,
in Moana in the last five, six, seven years.
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Frozen, I saw the first one.
Pretty good movie.
If that's even their property, I think it's Disney.
And then they bought Marvel, too.
That was actually the impetus of this video, by the way, which I'm going to be ending shortly.
That was the impetus of this video, by the way, which was a new fourth.
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Captain America just came out, which by most metrics and most critics,
even the most staunch Disney supporters really, really, really disliked.
Hated, might I add.
That's a strong word.
But you know what?
This situation needs a strong word.
A lot of folks hated that movie.
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Just came out.
Captain America 4.
Don't know the name of it.
Guess who owns the Marvel franchise, which Captain America is under the umbrella of
and within full jurisdiction of whoever controls the Marvel franchise and its creative direction.
It's Disney.
It's Disney.
It's Disney.
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I hope you see why I was boycotting.
Let's move it back to Vince Vaughn's little tiny interview quote that I saw on like some Instagram reel
or something.
Some short form content.
The reason why I bring it up is because it makes so much sense.
Star Wars.
They could have just Ryan Johnson, which he basically did, by the way,
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but he could have just taken a poop on the screen and had like a really high definition camera
and added some really cool effects to like the poop coming out of his butt and like the weird Ace hardware
bucket that he pooped in and could have been like like an alien's mouth or something like the blue guy
like Greedo because like everyone knew Greedo.
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Han Solo shot him and that was cool.
Back in actual Star Wars, Ryan Johnson could have just did that for like two hours straight,
which he basically did.
That would have been a better movie, by the way, if it was just like pooping and like Greedo was like the
bucket for poop. He was like the toilet, you know, the bounty hunter in what I believe is episode four or five.
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I think it's four.
It's actual Star Wars.
Ryan Johnson could have done that.
I didn't watch episode nine.
I haven't watched any movies of Star Wars after Rogue One in episode seven, The Last Jedi,
where they maim Luke Skywalker.
Let's go back to Vince Vaughn right now.
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Vince Vaughn said Hollywood just wants steady returns.
Hollywood just wants to control narratives and have steady returns.
Not so they can stay in business.
They can stay in business because I presume they have a lot more power than they do have money, right?
They do have a lot of money.
And I say Hollywood so loosely, folks, so loosely, like in a way, I'm part of Hollywood.
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I've spent so much time in L.A., talked to so many people in L.A.
and connected with so many people in L.A.
I don't mean just like Hollywood is some amorphous blob.
OK, so if you listen to this only 20 minutes in or 10 minutes in or two minutes in,
I don't mean Hollywood as every single person that works in the industry.
I just mean the powers that be that bought Star Wars and then wiped their filthy asses with it
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need to come to justice, and I am inciting that, by the way.
Take my free speech away then.
I'm inciting that they come to justice, whatever you think that means.
They ruined a fragment in a rather large shard of my childhood.
Like I said, call me a nerd, call me a loser.
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But five, six, and seven-year-old Nick loved Anakin Skywalker and loved General Grievous
and loved Obi-Wan Kenobi, both old as an old man and the young Obi-Wan Kenobi with that cool beard, man.
Ewan McGregor, Emperor Palpatine, before he turned into Darth Sidious with a deformed face.
It was cool. Disney's not cool. Disney's not cool.
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Vince Vaughn said it himself.
Hollywood just wants steady returns to keep the narrative in place
and to have a captive enough audience so they can continue to consume content that they produce
that is quite literally no good.
They don't care so long as they have the eyeballs and discussions around their content.
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It is disgusting and they maimed my childhood, at least a big part of it.
Oh Nick, you're being dramatic. Well, I'm a dramatist.
Oscar Wilde called himself a dramatist. I'm a dramatist. I'm a dramatist.
What do you think writing novels is? What do you think becoming...
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You think I like chose to be a novelist?
Yeah, I guess literally I did.
And not to be corny, but it also chose me.
It was such a logical and irrational step that made the most sense
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and yet didn't make much sense at the time, but it just made so much sense and clicked with me.
I'm a dramatist and I'm being dramatic.
And they maimed a good part of my childhood and even a good part of my future
as they continue to crush and be the primary teacher's pet example
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of how to ruin, pillage, and rape franchises all across the spectrum of what we used to love so much.
Don't give in. I encourage you to boycott as I've done.
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Disney and any other company that's buying an IP and rather than just promoting it
and saying, hey, this is a great IP from the past or from the past that's still currently ongoing.
This is a popular intellectual property.
We're not really going to tamper with it, but like here you go.
We have it on our streaming platform. South Park on Paramount Plus is an example.
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I don't not support Paramount Plus. I support Paramount Plus.
You think I'm just like down on every streaming service?
Granted, I watch very little TV.
I'm recording this podcast episode at the wee hours of the night on a Monday.
Right. Just hear me clearly when I say what Vince Vaughn said matters.
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Hollywood doesn't want and doesn't need to take chances anymore on new IPs
on new intellectual property, on new ideas, on new storylines, on new heroes, on new villains, on new ideas, on new archetypes.
They can stay within their own sociopolitical, narratively regimented path,
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superstructure monolith and get away with it.
My call to action to you before I end this quickly.
Hear me clearly. Don't let them get away with it.
Yeah, we're all tiny individuals that can only spend so much on like Hulu or Disney Plus.
Just don't spend your money with them.
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And if you do, I'm not blaming you. I'm not hating on you. I don't hate you for doing so.
But boy, did I did I just say my truth today.
They killed something I love.
And now I bootleg copies of the original six episodes because it's very easy to do.
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I hate Disney. I hate everything about them.
I don't necessarily hate all their employees, but if a lot of them were to get fired, so be it.
Say Nick, that's callous. Detractors of this will say Nick, that's callous.
That's actually almost like sociopathic. That's insane.
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You want people to lose their livelihoods just because you don't agree with their creative decisions?
No, I don't want them to lose their livelihoods.
I'm just saying I wouldn't be upset if Disney had massive layoffs and continues to lose money
and continues to have massive layoffs. I wouldn't be that upset.
They need to hurt.
Sorry.
I hope this was cohesive enough. I know it wasn't a very well woven tapestry.
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If we're going to be honest, this is going to end at 36 minutes basically flat.
I hope this was cohesive enough bringing to Vince Vaughn's point who was a Hollywood insider for so long,
got paid so much, and he just tells the candid truth not as a bitter outsider,
not as a bitter wannabe, if you want to put it that way, but as someone who just knows.
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And he told the truth. He was like, Hollywood doesn't really need a lot of new intellectual property.
They're not going to spend a ton of money on new IP.
Think of Game of Thrones. That was already a successful book series.
Now, that wasn't Disney. That was HBO Max, but still part of the Hollywood apparatus.
Think on that.
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Dwell on that. Or don't.
Ruminate on that. Or don't.
Heed my words or don't.
Appreciate what I do or don't.
It's your life.
Go do and live your life.
If you love Disney, go love Disney.
I'm just not going to support Disney for all these reasons.
If I was aggressive, egregious, if I was too harsh in your opinion, just let me know.
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Hey, I got a lot of links down below.
Actually, not a lot, but a couple of links.
You can follow me on Amazon. You can check out my website.
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Peace.
Welcome to the Nick Oliveri show. I am your host, the host, Nick Oliveri, Ukrainian-born, five-time United States independent, best-selling author.
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Independent author. And I still maintain that.
Got a collection of poems coming out April 1st.
Yeah, I know a lot of people call it April Fool's Day, but it's April 1st. Happens to come out on April Fool's Day.
It's a collection of poems called This Book is Expensive.
Anyways, this is the show, if you're just seeing it now, where we talk about great art, great people, and the many things in between.
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So we have a lot of broad categories.
And if you like my allegories, if you like my metaphors, or if you like how I tie patterns, or at least elicute patterns,
in between certain happenings in pop culture, arts, entertainment, sports, media, you name it, then hang on.
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Let's go.
I got something to get off my chest right now.
I got something to get off my chest.
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh.
I got something to get off my chest right now.
Star Wars.
Disney. I'm coming for ya.
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I'm coming for ya.
I'm doing it.
Let's go. Let's go right into it.
Disney ruined Star Wars.
Rogue One was the only good thing that happened.
That came out before episode 8 in the canon The Last Jedi.
Star Wars ruined.
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Or, my apologies, I wish I could talk right now.
Disney ruined Star Wars.
They maimed it, and they assaulted it.
They found it in a back alley, vulnerable, and they pantsed it, and had their way with it.
They took it for everything it had, and now it has nothing left.
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Do you know what you should do with an IP like Star Wars, which basically comes around every, oh, I don't know,
50 years, 100 years, maybe every lifetime?
Once in a lifetime?
Nurture it.
Listen to the fans.
You know, the people that made it what it was.
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What a novel idea from a novelist.
What a novel idea. What a novel idea.
What a new revelatory idea. Oh wait, it's not new, it's not revelatory.
Let's walk through a few things.
I saw, and by the way, if this is the first time you're seeing or listening to this podcast,
The Nick Oliveri Show by Nick Oliveri.
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I'm a bestselling novelist and fashion designer, and I will go on pseudo-rants with pseudo-tangents,
and I will tie everything back into a concept, so please bear with me. Come on now.
I saw a clip the other day.
I forget what platform it was on. I was probably doom-scrolling on Instagram.
I do it more than I like, but a little less than most people should.
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So, it was a Vince Vaughn.
Vince Vaughn who has been, you could say blacklisted from Hollywood.
Name the last movie Vince Vaughn was big in. Vince Vaughn.
I'm talking dodgeball. I'm talking wedding crashers.
I'm talking, well, he's been in a lot, and he's made tens to hundreds of millions of dollars off Hollywood.
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He is a gigantic star and was an A-lister, and now he's not.
I'm not really going to broach the topic of Vince Vaughn specifically right now, but let me tell you what he said.
He was in a very candid interview because, granted, he has F-U money.
Do you know what F stands for? It stands for F-U-C blank.
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U, money. Meaning he can say what he wants and get away with it.
Because there aren't going to be repercussions that are big enough, strong enough,
or with enough sharp teeth and enough PSI in that bite to hurt him at all.
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He's probably got six houses. If he doesn't have six, he probably has four, right?
He's doing good. He's Vince Vaughn. Everyone knows him.
I love the guy. At least I love his work anyway.
He had a quote. I'm not going to say it verbatim. Sorry.
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I'm not going to say it verbatim, but let me tell you what he said, roughly paraphrasing,
but I'm going to capture the essence of what he said. He said,
OK, here's the deal with Hollywood today.
And granted, he didn't come off as bitter because he doesn't have to.
He's Vince Vaughn and he has a ton of money. A ton.
Like, if you think a ton of money is 25 grand or 50 grand or a million dollars or five million dollars,
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Vince Vaughn has more than you. Way more.
So when I say a ton of money, I mean a ton of money.
Vince Vaughn. So he didn't come off as bitter.
He just came off as candid and normal when he said, hear me clearly, Vince Vaughn in an interview
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in this specific maybe Instagram real. I kind of forget.
It was either Instagram or Facebook, something meta related, right?
Meta, meta, praise be to Meta, Facebook.
He said, basically, Hollywood is now scared to delve into new IPs.
They only recycle old ones because it's safe.
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Hollywood does not want new ideas.
They are castigating people that want to come up and in companies, people, entities, creatives and artists
that want to come up with new ideas and new IPs to mass market.
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And I mean really put the machine in the capital by Israel.
Oh, boy, we just got I just opened a can of worms there.
But like, yeah, by Israel and the Mossad and the bankers that be in the Hollywood total machine
that is, by the way, I'm Ashkenaz, that is Hollywood.
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You can't get a fully Hollywood backed project if it is not either a Scorsese film has Leo in it,
which probably is directed by Scorsese Spielberg, some giant name like Tom Cruise.
Or if it's an IP that's been around since the 60s, 70s, 80s or 90s, you can't do it.
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You can't do it. And he said this.
And it made me think about my goodness, Star Wars.
Star Wars was about 25 percent of my childhood.
You can call me a nerd, a loser. You can call me a weirdo for that.
I'm not sorry. I'm not going to apologize for putting a huge emphasis on Star Wars.
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I was born in 2000 in Nikolai of Ukraine. I was forgotten as an orphan there.
I was eventually adopted by a wonderful family in the United States
and brought to the northeast of the U.S.
And throughout growing up, I watched Star Wars Revenge of the Sith.
It was a success written and directed by George Lucas.
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Episode three, but the final episode under George Lucas's control of Star Wars to come out.
I watched it in theaters. Yes, I was five years old.
I was born in 2000.
And then we got it on DVD. And then we got disc one and disc two, the bonus track.
Bonus track, bonus track. Real ones now.
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Look them up. They were a cool sketch group, kind of low key.
They're kind of underground, can peel. You wouldn't know them.
Bonus track. I got the bonus discs to Star Wars Revenge of the Sith.
I watched and have seen Star Wars Revenge of the Sith, Empire Strikes Back,
Return of the Jedi and probably Phantom Menace, those four movies of Star Wars.
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A collective aggregate of about.
I'm being dead serious and saying this in full earnest, earnestness.
I can only be authentic on this because if I wasn't, I wouldn't be doing it.
Just like my writing. I wouldn't write if I couldn't be earnest.
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Do you understand?
So I have seen those four movies and take the entire first six movies of the Star Wars trilogy
from Episode One Phantom Menace all the way to Episode Six, Return of the Jedi,
in not chronological order.
I have seen every Star Wars movie in aggregate, in aggregate, about 150 times, 150 times.
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It was about a quarter of my childhood.
Now the rest of it was playing outside. It was playing roller hockey.
I played roller hockey till, or sorry, not roller hockey.
I played roller hockey in the neighborhood. I played street hockey on my feet.
I played ice hockey and all sorts of hockey until I was about 19, 20 years old.
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For about 18 years of my life, literally.
I loved Pokemon, but you know what?
Star Wars, Anakin, Luke Skywalker, the hero's journey, Joseph Campbell, you ever heard of it?
Luke Skywalker was a whiny little bitch when he was on Tatooine at about 19, 20 years old.
Kind of the same time I started, or rather stopped playing hockey.
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He was on Tatooine and he was whiny.
He wasn't ready for his destiny. He didn't really want to do anything, but he was curious.
He was curious for the journey. He was curious.
And Obi-Wan came, right?
That collection of six movies, that bifurcation of the two trilogies that come together,
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the prequels and the sequels, old heads that are listening to this might say,
well the prequels are kind of garbage. There are a few good moments in Revenge of the Sith.
Younger folks that are about my age or even younger might say,
well the prequels triumph, the prequels are just straight up better, scabitty toilet, whatever.
I'm saying to you right now, those six movies, that arc,
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is one of the most beautiful, grandiose, operatic, maximalist, yet simple, best, greatest
movie franchises of all time. If not the best.
The most revelatory, the most revolutionary, and yes the revolution was televised.
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He changed the game and by he I mean George Lucas.
He inspired so much of my childhood as Zelda did, as Pokemon did, as literally leaves on branches did.
You know you have childlike wonder and then when you have that such boundless energy
and that open mind of a child and you're exposed to something like Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith
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and you watch it on repeat when you're sick and you watch it six times in a day every time you're sick
and then ten times on a weekend and then once per day?
You memorize all the lines. I know all the lines.
Hello there. I want more, but I know that I shouldn't.
That's Star Wars to me. Star Wars is my childhood.
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I watched Revenge of the Sith as a very young person for a Star Wars enjoyer, right?
A lot of Star Wars folks, you know, Star Wars came out in the, I believe, in the 70s.
A New Hope came out.
I've never been very impressed by that movie, but I've seen it countless times.
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Maybe a dozen, maybe two dozen times. Star Wars A New Hope.
I don't think it's a very good movie.
The rest of the series? Fantastic. Attack of the Clones, whatever.
I don't want to get into semantics here. What I'm trying to tell you is I love Star Wars.
What am I going to bring this back to and why did I mention Vince Vaughn before this?
Well, Disney bought the IP from George Lucas for about four billion dollars.
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It wasn't an undisclosed amount, but who knows how many backroom dealings
and I haven't looked at the paperwork of like how he sold the franchise.
So, but granted he gave up creative control and most likely most if not all royalties
and ownership of the Star Wars intellectual property to a company called,
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I don't know if you've ever heard of them, Disney.
Why is this important? Because Disney killed my childhood.
Disney scarred me. I have spoken to war veterans.
I have spoken to folks that have been in combat.
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I have spoken to people close to me or even just acquaintances of mine
that have either been attacked, mugged or even sexually assaulted.
I am not downplaying their experiences.
What I am saying is I went through the five stages of grief and got,
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I don't know what the DSM would say about this, but low grade PTSD
by watching episode eight of Disney Star Wars or supposedly the Star Wars canon.
Disney made a new trilogy once they bought it immediately.
They had something, something, something movie, which was episode seven.
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I watched it on my couch with my dad. I didn't bother going to the theaters.
And they said, or he said, you know, yeah, it's J.J. Abrams, man.
He's like, reliable. I watched it.
I watched Ray as a strong female character. And I said, that's fine.
I saw Finn and I was like, man, there's promise there.
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I think at the end, I saw Emperor Snoke and I was like, hey, what does he do?
That's interesting. It wasn't the greatest movie.
I left some, if not a lot to be desired. And I saw Luke Skywalker at the end.
Trust me, I'm going to tie this back to Vince Vaughn.
I'm going to tie this back to publishing.
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I'm going to tie this back to the corporate establishment in the arts
and entertainment field in general in just a couple moments.
But bear with me. This is passion unbridled, unsaddled, stallion in the wind.
Bear with me.
I watched episode seven with my father.
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I watched episode five with my father when I was five years old.
Do the math. If I'm recording this in February of twenty twenty five
and I was born in May, I am twenty four years old.
I went to the theaters and saw episode three Revenge of the Sith in theaters.
Guess who took me? My father, whom I love so much, who has given me,
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granted me and equipped me with all the wisdom and but also culture.
He gave me the gift of Star Wars.
Him and I, the amount of times we watched Empire Strikes Back,
would probably sicken a lot of you.
Or if you're here, it might impress you or you might or it might underwhelm you.
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You're like, no, I've actually watched just that movie about two hundred and seventy times.
You've only seen it like 40 times. OK, fine.
Star Wars is a big part of me and a big part of my childhood.
So when I went in theaters.
And saw.
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Star Wars. Supposedly.
Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man. Supposedly it was called Star Wars, the last Jedi.
And the parent company was. Of course, at Disney, right?
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I. Said, hey, you know what?
Episode seven by Disney. I forget the name of it.
I don't really care. Was fine.
It left a lot to be desired, but you know what? It's set up.
Episode eight.
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Episode eight wasn't directed by by J.J. Abrams.
It was directed by a lowly, shit eating worm.
Whose name is Ryan Johnson, R.I. not Y.I.A.N. Johnson.
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It was episode eight of Star Wars, supposedly Star Wars.
I don't count it as Star Wars. I saw it in theaters with my father.
He said, hey, bud, just letting you know, you know, I went into theaters and saw this with your uncle and, you know.
It wasn't the greatest movie I've ever seen.
And that was him being polite and trying to tamper and temper my expectations for the movie.
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And all in my head, while he was saying that and downplaying the movie, he didn't say it was awful,
although he thought it was awful in his head.
He didn't tell me that on the way to the theater.
And this was much later. This was like either 2014, 15 or 16.
Right. When I was 14, 15 or 16, because I'm a centarian.
Right. Or centurion, whatever.
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I'm telling you right now, I went through the five stages of grief during and after I watched that movie.
Episode supposedly eight of Star Wars, the canon, directed by R.I.A.N. Johnson, who is a war criminal and a rapist.
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He raped Star Wars.
He was offended by me saying that word.
Go watch the movie yourself.
Live my life and then see what you would say.
Do it. Do it.
I know it's a sensitive topic nowadays, but if you lived in, say, the 1290s or the early 1300s in a village
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and the Mongols came knocking at your village door, your city doors,
they think you would throw that our word rape around a lot more.
R.I.A.N. Johnson is a war criminal.
R.I.A.N. Johnson is an abuser.
R.I.A.N. Johnson is a thief.
R.I.A.N. Johnson is the director of the single worst, not just movie, worst piece of media I've ever seen.
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Period.
Since we're already 20 minutes in, I can't give you a review of the movie because it would sicken me.
It's called The Last Jedi, Star Wars The Last Jedi, Episode 8.
But it's not Star Wars, folks.
When my dad downplayed the movie, I was just like, you know what?
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Kylo Ren is an interesting figure.
I don't know what Rey's up to.
There's this guy Poe who's kind of cool.
He's like a pseudo younger Han Solo guy.
He's like a gunslinger kind of dude.
They got Finn, like the ex Stormtrooper-esque guy who rebelled and whatever.
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It broke my heart.
It was like any other...
It was one of the worst breakups I've had in my life, and I mean that.
You say, you're a loser, Nick.
You're a nerd, Nick.
You're weird.
Sure.
Label me.
Label me all you want.
I'm not going to go into the review of the movie.
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I am going to say that Disney, when they bought from George Lucas for X billion dollars, billion with a B, by the way,
B isn't B or buzzing or bastard as the corporation of Disney is, a bastard.
It's a bastard.
As I was when I was born in Nikolayev, Ukraine, or now Mikolayev, Ukraine, a bombed city with bridges burned, destroyed.
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Disney.
I have been boycotting their products since 2016 when I saw that movie for myself with my own eyes.
I wanted to leave the theater so badly.
But even back then when I was 16, still a minor, under the roof of my parents' house, I just respected my dad enough to say I'll stick it out.
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But I didn't want to.
I wanted to leave.
And when I say I went through the five stages of grief, I mean I literally looked up the five stages of grief after I was discussing the film with my dad.
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It was so horrendous. I haven't even been consuming Hulu and barely and rarely an ESPN clip because I know Disney owns ESPN now.
And ESPN, by the way, has become a shell of its former self.
They don't do anything fun.
They never give incisive, insightful takes.
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They never do anything good.
ESPN is rarely, if ever, making the right move and they just want to control you like the motherfuckers they are, like the cockroaches they are.
They will never go away because they have funding from the Fed and the Mossad and all sorts of bankers.
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I'm sure do well, doisha, but I call them Dusha Bank.
I bet they have lines with them.
I bet they have lines with Wells Fargo, Trafic and Children.
You know what? De-platform me.
This hurt me to no end.
I'm an existentialist.
I believe that the experience of one individual is infinitely, if not insanely and utterly important.
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My experience with this movie wrecked a lot of my childhood.
Did I ever say the A word in this podcast, Anakin?
It defeated the purpose of Anakin.
It defeated the purpose of the Force.
It defeated the purpose of the Republic, of the Jedi Council and the Jedi Order.
It defeated the purpose of the Sith.
It defeated the purpose of quite literally everything.
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What does Vince Vaughn have to do with this?
Oh, you were wondering.
I went on a little bit of a rant.
A little bit of a rant there.
Let's put a smile on it.
I'm just kidding.
Vince Vaughn said it himself.
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Disney is not going to go out and make some new IP.
And then detractors of me are saying, well, Nick, you sexist, racist bigot who is going against Disney,
who is clearly fighting the establishment.
Disney is fighting the establishment and is an ally for feminism.
Retarded take.
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They bought Star Wars.
Yes, they created a couple of new IPs as an intellectual property, if you don't know what that is,
in Moana in the last five, six, seven years.
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Frozen, I saw the first one.
Pretty good movie.
If that's even their property, I think it's Disney.
And then they bought Marvel, too.
That was actually the impetus of this video, by the way, which I'm going to be ending shortly.
That was the impetus of this video, by the way, which was a new fourth.
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Captain America just came out, which by most metrics and most critics,
even the most staunch Disney supporters really, really, really disliked.
Hated, might I add.
That's a strong word.
But you know what?
This situation needs a strong word.
A lot of folks hated that movie.
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Just came out.
Captain America 4.
Don't know the name of it.
Guess who owns the Marvel franchise, which Captain America is under the umbrella of
and within full jurisdiction of whoever controls the Marvel franchise and its creative direction.
It's Disney.
It's Disney.
It's Disney.
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I hope you see why I was boycotting.
Let's move it back to Vince Vaughn's little tiny interview quote that I saw on like some Instagram reel
or something.
Some short form content.
The reason why I bring it up is because it makes so much sense.
Star Wars.
They could have just Ryan Johnson, which he basically did, by the way,
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but he could have just taken a poop on the screen and had like a really high definition camera
and added some really cool effects to like the poop coming out of his butt and like the weird Ace hardware
bucket that he pooped in and could have been like like an alien's mouth or something like the blue guy
like Greedo because like everyone knew Greedo.
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Han Solo shot him and that was cool.
Back in actual Star Wars, Ryan Johnson could have just did that for like two hours straight,
which he basically did.
That would have been a better movie, by the way, if it was just like pooping and like Greedo was like the
bucket for poop. He was like the toilet, you know, the bounty hunter in what I believe is episode four or five.
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I think it's four.
It's actual Star Wars.
Ryan Johnson could have done that.
I didn't watch episode nine.
I haven't watched any movies of Star Wars after Rogue One in episode seven, The Last Jedi,
where they maim Luke Skywalker.
Let's go back to Vince Vaughn right now.
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Vince Vaughn said Hollywood just wants steady returns.
Hollywood just wants to control narratives and have steady returns.
Not so they can stay in business.
They can stay in business because I presume they have a lot more power than they do have money, right?
They do have a lot of money.
And I say Hollywood so loosely, folks, so loosely, like in a way, I'm part of Hollywood.
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I've spent so much time in L.A., talked to so many people in L.A.
and connected with so many people in L.A.
I don't mean just like Hollywood is some amorphous blob.
OK, so if you listen to this only 20 minutes in or 10 minutes in or two minutes in,
I don't mean Hollywood as every single person that works in the industry.
I just mean the powers that be that bought Star Wars and then wiped their filthy asses with it
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need to come to justice, and I am inciting that, by the way.
Take my free speech away then.
I'm inciting that they come to justice, whatever you think that means.
They ruined a fragment in a rather large shard of my childhood.
Like I said, call me a nerd, call me a loser.
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But five, six, and seven-year-old Nick loved Anakin Skywalker and loved General Grievous
and loved Obi-Wan Kenobi, both old as an old man and the young Obi-Wan Kenobi with that cool beard, man.
Ewan McGregor, Emperor Palpatine, before he turned into Darth Sidious with a deformed face.
It was cool. Disney's not cool. Disney's not cool.
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Vince Vaughn said it himself.
Hollywood just wants steady returns to keep the narrative in place
and to have a captive enough audience so they can continue to consume content that they produce
that is quite literally no good.
They don't care so long as they have the eyeballs and discussions around their content.
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It is disgusting and they maimed my childhood, at least a big part of it.
Oh Nick, you're being dramatic. Well, I'm a dramatist.
Oscar Wilde called himself a dramatist. I'm a dramatist. I'm a dramatist.
What do you think writing novels is? What do you think becoming...
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You think I like chose to be a novelist?
Yeah, I guess literally I did.
And not to be corny, but it also chose me.
It was such a logical and irrational step that made the most sense
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and yet didn't make much sense at the time, but it just made so much sense and clicked with me.
I'm a dramatist and I'm being dramatic.
And they maimed a good part of my childhood and even a good part of my future
as they continue to crush and be the primary teacher's pet example
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of how to ruin, pillage, and rape franchises all across the spectrum of what we used to love so much.
Don't give in. I encourage you to boycott as I've done.
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Disney and any other company that's buying an IP and rather than just promoting it
and saying, hey, this is a great IP from the past or from the past that's still currently ongoing.
This is a popular intellectual property.
We're not really going to tamper with it, but like here you go.
We have it on our streaming platform. South Park on Paramount Plus is an example.
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I don't not support Paramount Plus. I support Paramount Plus.
You think I'm just like down on every streaming service?
Granted, I watch very little TV.
I'm recording this podcast episode at the wee hours of the night on a Monday.
Right. Just hear me clearly when I say what Vince Vaughn said matters.
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Hollywood doesn't want and doesn't need to take chances anymore on new IPs
on new intellectual property, on new ideas, on new storylines, on new heroes, on new villains, on new ideas, on new archetypes.
They can stay within their own sociopolitical, narratively regimented path,
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superstructure monolith and get away with it.
My call to action to you before I end this quickly.
Hear me clearly. Don't let them get away with it.
Yeah, we're all tiny individuals that can only spend so much on like Hulu or Disney Plus.
Just don't spend your money with them.
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And if you do, I'm not blaming you. I'm not hating on you. I don't hate you for doing so.
But boy, did I did I just say my truth today.
They killed something I love.
And now I bootleg copies of the original six episodes because it's very easy to do.
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I hate Disney. I hate everything about them.
I don't necessarily hate all their employees, but if a lot of them were to get fired, so be it.
Say Nick, that's callous. Detractors of this will say Nick, that's callous.
That's actually almost like sociopathic. That's insane.
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You want people to lose their livelihoods just because you don't agree with their creative decisions?
No, I don't want them to lose their livelihoods.
I'm just saying I wouldn't be upset if Disney had massive layoffs and continues to lose money
and continues to have massive layoffs. I wouldn't be that upset.
They need to hurt.
Sorry.
I hope this was cohesive enough. I know it wasn't a very well woven tapestry.
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If we're going to be honest, this is going to end at 36 minutes basically flat.
I hope this was cohesive enough bringing to Vince Vaughn's point who was a Hollywood insider for so long,
got paid so much, and he just tells the candid truth not as a bitter outsider,
not as a bitter wannabe, if you want to put it that way, but as someone who just knows.
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And he told the truth. He was like, Hollywood doesn't really need a lot of new intellectual property.
They're not going to spend a ton of money on new IP.
Think of Game of Thrones. That was already a successful book series.
Now, that wasn't Disney. That was HBO Max, but still part of the Hollywood apparatus.
Think on that.
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Dwell on that. Or don't.
Ruminate on that. Or don't.
Heed my words or don't.
Appreciate what I do or don't.
It's your life.
Go do and live your life.
If you love Disney, go love Disney.
I'm just not going to support Disney for all these reasons.
If I was aggressive, egregious, if I was too harsh in your opinion, just let me know.
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Hey, I got a lot of links down below.
Actually, not a lot, but a couple of links.
You can follow me on Amazon. You can check out my website.
And I got all sorts of handles for social media, Instagram, TikTok, X, and Twitter, or X Twitter.
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I have nine published novels. I got a collection of poems coming out on April 1st.
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