TNCSSP S4 EP 153 | NBA First Round Predictions & More | April 16, 2025

Join us for another episode of TNCSSP as we'll be giving our NBA first round predictions as well as discussing other hot button sports topics!!! #tncssp #wheresportsandconvoscollide #dopesportspodcast #nba #collegefootball #nil #newmedia

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the no Cast for show podcast with sports
and con Hoots. Collie, I'm your host of Cobra.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's me.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Just let you guess. That's all I am.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
We got the we had the O G back in
the building for a special occasion and what's up?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
O G?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
What up, Dough. It's good to be back, man. It's
it's always a hon and the pleasure, uh to be
back and forth forth with one brothers, even even if
it's briefly.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, yes, for real, straight out man.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I can't call it man, I've been cooler man, just
just being the uh uh my son's personal show fursoo
whatever you want to call it. Man, you know what
I'm saying. Taking this over the practice and yeah, everything, man,
seem like every day, every thing out It seemed like
it every day.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Nah, yeah, bro, I remember those days. I got girls,
But I remember those days, man. Yeah, how many years
you got left?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
See he's gonna be a singer, man. So we're going
on just the last season.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay, that's what something man, that's the something man. Yeah,
I gotta I gotta check out young and myself for real.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, you know that basketball season twenty all year round
twenty four seven.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Now, man, who are you telling Brok? I was hoping
he was just at the h the younger we supposed
to have on Darius Rivers. I had never heard of
him until we went to this little workout last week
two weeks ago and was like, oh, man, you're supposed
to be he supposed to be the business and uh yeah,

(01:44):
younger Knights Man.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I was, yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
You're talking about prototypical man, prototypical point god. Yeah, yeah, man,
I like I said, I saw him. I saw him
the last two years at T. C. Williams.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Uh, I don't. I don't give out too many accolades
like that. Trust me. I'm a hard I'm a hard judger.
But I'm telling you something that young and right there
got the whole time package. Man, you're talking about basketball acumen,
I mean court vision and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I Q.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, I don't put praise on too many players like that,
and he's one of them.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
So yeah, I wouldn't saying him buogie like it was.
It wasn't, you know. I Mean it's an elite travel team,
so everybody was nice, you know what I'm saying. So
it wasn't no it wasn't no no wreck like it
was some good records and he understood out. So I'm
looking forward, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
To our view as the listeners that was expecting to
see an interview with the young superstar Darius Business from
O'Connell formerly of t C. Williams. We're going to reschedule
his show. He had uh basketball priorities tonight. So you know,
we definitely understand that young man on his grind trying
to get to where you need to get to so

(03:03):
he can be on our tube on Tuesday or Fridays
and and all that good stuff. So yeah, we'd definitely
be looking out for the notifications of the next uh
the new date for Darius Business interview and will be
coming real soon. So with that being saying, man, let's
jump in to the show, because there's been a lot

(03:24):
of things happening over the last few days, over the
last week or so, and I know our viewers and
listeners are waiting for, you know, get our opinion on everything.
So before before we get into the actual topics, I
was just sitting here watching YouTube and they was talking
about Isaiah Thomas and his comments about Lebron James going

(03:49):
out early and shooting with the duke rag on and
no shirt on. And I just wanted to get your
guys opinion on that because well, you know, I'll go first,
because because my thoughts are I'm like, dang Isai you
having the bad year right now?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Like you? But but I thought I thought he here,
he overstepped. He sounded like an old grouchy uncle or
whatever the case may be. But he got to realize
that Lebron goes to the stadium super super early, like
when he was out there shooting getting no shots up.
Wasn't nobody in that stadium except for the staff. He

(04:26):
gets there four or five hours before game time. That's
what he got to realize. So it wasn't his teammates,
wasn't there yet, the coaching staff, wasn't there yet, nobody.
He has his routine that he's been doing for twenty
two years. You know, he lift his waist, he get
his shots, he do his stretching, he get his massages,
all that stuff. So you know, and then you just

(04:49):
got to remember that Lebron has always been a model
of professionalism. So he's not going to come on, man,
Lebron know what he do. He's not gonna just go
out there and do rag no shirt off, and you
got have to have the stadium field with fastball. Bro,
your man stall, your man out. What did you think
about that?

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Old G?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Hey, look, man, I really don't have too much to
say on it or what have you. I mean, you know,
like I said, Look, you know, just like I mean,
everybody knows, like I said, that's one of my favorite
players ever. You know what I'm saying. But in terms
of his comments, in terms of that, man, yeah, I
don't know where that came from. You know what I'm saying.
I mean, this is this is this is the same

(05:31):
guy that played for the Bad Boy Pissones and stuff
like that, and he wanted to talk about, you know,
what's right and what's wrong and stuff like that would happen.
He's entitled to his opinion. But like I said, to
that extreme, bro, I just I thought that was Yeah.
I thought that was pretty much irrelevant. You know what
I'm saying. I'm like it. You know, you could have
could have kept that to yourself. Man, so o G.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
He was pissed off too, like he just sign he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Man, he came heah, he was very pissed off, you
know what I'm saying, talking about the unprofessionalism and and
all this other stuff. I'm like, you know, look here,
man is uh as bad as I was a bad
boy Detroit Pistons fan back in the days when when
all you know, when when we broke all the rules
and stuff like that, and he and he was the
lead of it. I mean, you know, I mean you

(06:16):
got to watch you know what I'm saying. You just
got to watch what you say in terms of, you know,
in terms of looking back what you used to do
and stuff like that, but in terms of what he
said about Lebron with his shirt with his shirt off,
in terms of practice and stuff like that. I thought
it was a non story at the end of the day.
I didn't think it needs to be hyped up than
what it is right now. Matt, to be totally.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Honest, right, Well, what's your thoughts in that pool?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I think this once you considered the fact, like you said,
COVID Lebron did find that was five hours before tip off.
You know what I'm saying. Nobody's in that building, but
the staff is working with him and they setting up
the TV and stuff, and they only setting that up
because they just changed over from the ice hockey. But
if Thomas didn't exist in this twenty four hour news cycle,

(07:03):
you know what I'm saying. When he played, there wasn't
nobody filming you doing that when you know what I'm saying,
because it was no it was no avenue, no platform
for it to be talked about, you know what I'm saying.
Now there's the avenue of the platform for it to
be talked about, so they always I want to talk
about anything now. So the people who play back the

(07:24):
day and they I don't know, I don't understand why
the older players can find something wrong with everything the
youngest do you know what I mean? But it is
it almost diminishes their greatness to me, you know what
I'm saying, Like it's like, man, man, y'all was great.
Y'all were great, But everything can't be wrong with the
new game, you know what I'm saying, Like, everything can't

(07:46):
be wrong with it? Like and if you listen to
them told, they're like, oh man, everything is down, this
is that that? Well, guess what. They just signed the
largest TV contract And if you and shit was there
that much? How did they get sign this new TV
deal that're gonna get people five hundred being the I
mean five hundred million dollar contracts. You know what I'm saying. Like,

(08:07):
so if the bad thing't master like, y'all can say
what y'all want, but the money talks and bullshit runs
the marathon, man, And they just signed the new deal
the Richard So you know y'all got they I can
even point their brains. I think on something levels, it's
a little bit of jealous nick Man like says, back

(08:28):
when gay you getting it making three million dollars, and
now if you make three million dollars, your name is
uh yeah, you know what I'm saying, you Q eleven
twelve man on the bench, you know what I'm saying. So, hey, man,
I absolute all them old guys for what they built.

(08:48):
They helped build it. But man, let these young boys cook. Man,
let them cook. Like I just I don't like.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
But but you said, but you said something, Uh you
said something great?

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
When you say you talking about like I said, the
social media climb and stuff like that, if you took
if you took social media now and you applied it
back to when Isaiah and then was planned. And I
mean come on, man, you're talking about that, uh you're
talking about it being that much heightened. I mean, come on,
I mean you if you took if you took Magic
Johnson and and and you took Isaiah Thomas kissing Magic

(09:20):
Johnson on the cheek, you know what I'm saying. And
today's climate and stuff like that right now, I mean,
come on to social with the social media era and
stuff like that, I.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Would have blown up the social media back then. Man,
all them tuff throwing cocaine. Man, they was beating the wives,
they were throwing crazy. You know what I'm saying. Like
you know what I'm saying, Like we had to they
had to grow group into this. They like they children

(09:49):
are social media, the children are again and that the
children are cell phones. Drop that. Back in the eighties,
you imagine, I mean, people would have been taking a
picture of Magic content free party, you know what I'm saying.
In La or Mike George what he knew? He games?
You know, yeah, I love him cook Man, you know

(10:10):
it's it's I respect, I respect all the old guys,
but just like anything man. Jesse Owens was the fastest
man alive in nineteen thirty six and twenty twenty five.
He am couldn't win the fucking me at You know
what I'm saying, like every shitty balls, man, it's colors,

(10:34):
you know what I'm saying. Like you can take the
Dayton basketball team from twenty twenty five and they go back,
and I'm just telling you that taking a good Division
one team, you take them back, they're gonna run them out.
Fucking Bill Russell Celtics off the floor like they just
two big twelve you know what I'm saying. And that's
no disrespect the old guys. He cain't this stage, man.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
You know what I'm saying, Like he said, bigger, stronger, faster, right.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
The biggest bastard. You know what I'm saying. And it
and it's just you know what I'm saying. It's tracked,
it's basketball, it's football, is baseball. You know what I'm saying.
All that ship.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
So now I say, I say, if if the Ogs
had the science and the medicine, uh, you know what
I'm saying, Like the players today, Okay, I get that,
but you right, like you said, the keyword has evolved
over time. So you.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm I'm gonna send you. I'm gonna send it in
the group check. But somebody sent me. I guess back
in the day, the NBA used to do this, uh
like a like a one on one horse. Right since
Bob McAdoo versus pistol Pete Murmage, right, I'm telling you

(11:45):
right now, I'm telling Bob two hall of famous use
he do around the clear up?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
They put me on one today, Kober and.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Then let him cut And people people always want to
dismiss evolution, man, but it's just that's that's what it is.
I mean, the athletes are a different. The equipment that
they use are different, like O. G said, the medicine,
the science, something, everything's just now.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Many every day is different. And the problem is when
people like they just romanticize the past. Rado. You're a
Washington fan, right.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I am. I'm everything Washington, bro.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay, the Hogs with the best offensive lineman off the
line of football through the eighties, right, that is correct.
We have had one joking was three hundred five pounds?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Man?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
What could they do today? That? If they were they
could do nothing like great players? But that office line
as a whole. You know why because Leon was great?
But Leon, Look, wasn't it wasn't like uh Aaron Donald
or or what what or not. I ain't gonna hurt
Donald like good players now they're just bigger, stronger, faster

(13:21):
like sure.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
But like resolution over time. You're absolutely right, man, yes, sir, absolutely,
you know.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
And I want I want to stay on the NBA,
And I don't want to start with you put me because
I know you you're a little bit closer to it
then than the rest of us, or you got a
little bit more emotional times to it. But your your man,
Nico Harrison Man, he had a a no camera media
session earlier and kind of explaining trading away Luca, don

(13:55):
Jig and and some some some more b s. But
I wanted to start out with you Pool because I
know you, Dallas Maverage fan. You love Luca Danci Man
made me with Nico Harrison make sense, man, Make what
he said makes sense.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
At this point, right, I don't like I've already I
want to from the menduce for somebody said I didn't
believe it when it happened, like it was unbelievable to me,
Like you don't trade somebody that caliber like when you
lived in the history of the NBA, and to go
five times First Team out NBA in the first six years, right,

(14:31):
five times?

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Only?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
That was only ten Duncan, Larry Bird and Katie you
know what I'm saying, Like, through up the history of
the NBA, five thousand people that played in the NBA,
three people did it far with Lucas, and Luca wanted
to be there, like he wasn't somebody that was like,
oh man, we're gonna have to worry about like signing

(14:54):
him back. He wanted to be there. He was the
best that you could see, how emotional he was, Like
didn't like so I don't like how they have tried
to frame this narrative that, uh he was you know,
all this everything that was wrong with him. You know
what I'm saying, Like no basketball players perfect, No basketball
player is one hundred sad hole. Everybody got flaws in

(15:15):
their game, right, and it's kind of like, all right, well,
how can we maximize our team around his flaws? You
know what I mean? I think Dallas did a good
job for that. I think they did a better job
of what they bought even this year. I don't know
as a black man for everybody black, right, but I

(15:37):
just I gotta take me cause what the hell was
he doing? Like what like it doesn't even make sense
and it's not a shot of a d because even
though I don't like AD, I don't think personally I'd
rather have Bam out of Byo than AD. I think
it is more child there. But I think Bam out
of Bayo is there right and he goes harder, Like
I think Bamas is a tougher competitor. I think that,

(15:59):
Like I said with that group chat, I said, I
think eighty is one of the most talented players in
the history of the NBA. Like if he just put
like all his skills down, what he can do. His
size is athleticism, you know, all his abilities. He's one
of the most talented. Yes, he's just a guy like
he was been in New Orleans for what eight or

(16:19):
nine years and never get any friction, no motion Like
that means something like that means something like if you
look at Luca team that he took to the finals
when I mean the first not I mean the Western
Conference finals. Right when he went to work the conference finals,
who's on the team he said that best Please was
spensive been with him? You know what I'm saying, Like

(16:40):
so it's something to say for somebody that can win
with whatever you put him around him, you know what
I mean. And Luca can do that. I don't. It
doesn't make business sense because you're not going to be
able to run the value of the ballons down so
bad to let them move to Vegas, right because the

(17:02):
other owners don't care about these other tickets, you know
what I'm saying, Like, if you're not selling ticket, that's
your money. But if you move a team from the
TI to move a team from a top five TV
market to the number twenty TV market, and I said,
that's everybody else money, you know what I'm saying. So
them owners not gonna let ever let her move the
Mavericks to be that's never gonna happen. Like it's never

(17:27):
gonna happen. So the PUMI is that she's trying to
run it down into the ground. It's just the dumbest
shit I've ever got. I can't make sense of it.
Everything you try to think about, you're like, well what
but that doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Like.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
You know you didn't like them what you said at
Polly finishing, you about to say.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
It, I mean, listen, if he ain't like them, then
you need to change your job. Like if you are
a basketball executive and you think that I have a
better team without Luca Dauntets, you're a basketball person, like
you're a bad basket That's what I'm saying now. If
he wanted to, if that trade would have said we're

(18:07):
bringing in uh, Austin Reeves, Vanderbilt, a D and two
F round picks, and I'm like, all right, that makes sense,
but a one for one. The only one for one
for is joker, Like that's all. But I've been like,
all right, oh, Yanna joking. I'd be like, all right,
that's one for one. But beyond that, he's not. So

(18:28):
you look in that you look regarded, You look like
you let somebody take advantage of you. You know what
I'm saying, Like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
He tried. He trying to justify, and he made a
statement that, uh, you know, defense wins championships. So he's
making his decision not just for now, in the future.
He said, defense wins championships and these things that the
team that they have a symbol right now is more
prepared to compete for a championship than team that they

(19:00):
had prior to the trade. So I think I think
that was just dumb as hell. Anytime, like Coon just said,
the man just led you to the to the NBA Finals,
you know what I mean? You you wasn't preaching that.
I mean, everybody know Luki not a strong defensive player,
but he got defensive players around him. You know you
can hide them, good coach know how to hide you.

(19:23):
But what you do need is that that superstar player
that can put a team on their back and take
them from point A to point Z. And right now
on that roster, they don't have that. I don't even
know if Kyrie is that. Even though Kyrie is a
great dynamic player, but even when he comes back healthy,
I don't think he's that guy that's going to put

(19:43):
the franchise on his back and take him. It's only
half four players that go in that bucket, and Luka
is one of them.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Right.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
But okay, and I think Komi agreed with this as well.
If you had currently constructed, if you have a healthy
Dallas team with that you know what I'm saying, with
a d and you know what I'm saying. And Kyrie
and and and those two centers in Gafford and all
those other players would have you. I mean barn injury.
That is a championship contendent squad. That is a championship

(20:18):
contendent squad.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I'm not.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
I'm not gonna I'm not.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm not gonna debate that. I don't. I think. I think,
I think rest. I think when we signed Marshall, Quinton Grimes,
Klay Thompson, I think all those things SOLIDI fight our
roster right and I think that that roster with a
one a superstar like in a NBA ten, like a

(20:44):
finals level roster. It's a finals level roster. Now that
the question comes in with like so the Kobe, Like, yeah,
Luke don't played good d But it wasn't Luca not
playing defense by Boston Beatle last year. It's the fact
that PJ. Washington and all them guys couldn't the wild
open shots like you know what I'm saying that we
shot thirte like if they would have down the shots,

(21:06):
then it makes it a whole different series. So that's
when we went to stay all right, like I gotta
go get some shooters to knock down these open shots.
So that's what like that was. That's the bigger that
was to me, though, was the biggest issue, Like it's
all right, Luca, don't play just what jumping, don't play
D either, don't play right, you don't play D. So

(21:28):
you you and it's it's I love Lebron, Lebron, don't
play D no more. You know what I'm saying, Like
so it there's a couple of like defensive like superstars
Lebron large like man, the NBA is can I outscore you?
You know what I'm saying, And one hundred percent of
the time every night when Lucas stepped on the floor,

(21:50):
he can outscore whoever checking him. You know what I'm saying,
Like all right, you know and and to me like
so even when like Jaylen Brown, if you score thirty
five on looker Lucas, thirty five is going to hit
you so much more because Jaylen Brown, you're hitting it
off of pull ups. And you know what I'm saying,
Lucas hitting that shit that keep your deepense. You know
what I'm saying, he's getting and Wansey So but I

(22:16):
ain't gonna lot to you, man, I ain't gonna lie
street hold on pon me.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
It can't be that much vulnerable because I'm gonna go
back to Kobe's original question, the thoughts on Nico Harrison's
no camera media session. See, and I thought I thought
you was going. I thought you was about to go
where I'm about to say, Pony and Kobe, you didn't.
You didn't mention this as well. I keep hearing all
this criticism from the media and from the fan base

(22:43):
in terms of, you know, the trade that Nico Harrison
Harrison made. Hey, guys, news flash, Nico didn't make that trade.
Ownership made that trade. Nico is just the fall guy,
ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
That's all he is.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
That's all he is. The key the fact that the
matter is this.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
That is Maverick.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
That was Maverick coming up, came up with this narrative
that they did not want to sign Luca to that
what I think, four hundred million dollars Maxfield this summer,
what have you. And they start putting these narratives out
there and wait, it's not taking this series and stuff
like that. And then the ownership wanted to move or
wanted to relocate, but they can't relocate because I think

(23:24):
they're in the casino business or whatever the case.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
May be, or what have you.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
So that this is, this is behind that. Nico has
just ownership.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
So my only problem, my only problem with that, Freido right,
And I understand people coming with that, but my only
problem with that is, Nah, Nico, you can't be the
fault guy for that. You know what, if you ever
want to work in basketball again, if you ever want
to work in basketball again, you can't sit in front

(23:55):
of an owner and say I cheated Luca Donci Like.
You can't sit in front of an owner and say
that is You can't say I prayed that, that was
my decision, I did it.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
You can't say.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
But you'll never nobody's gonna give you a job again.
That's what I'm saying. Like you had a future in basketball,
and he said no, and they fired him. They said,
why you fire them? Oh man, they wanted me to trade.
I wasn't gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Like you don't have.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
That.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
He didn't make that trade. That NBA circle is pretty tight,
and you and you know how and you know how
far that runs. They know he didn't make that trade.
They know what time it is.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm saying Danny Ames may.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
Have some protection.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Nigo Harrison ain't got no protection. Yeah, he got the
complexion for rejection. You know what I'm saying. So, and
I'm saying on that premise, man, I'm not doing it.
No y'all want to do this, dumb yourself. I'm not.
I'm not acting my man. I'm not stepping up there.
I'm not taking the bullet or something. I don't believe it.

(25:01):
Like and if they want to be a general manager
like that's that's your name on the chicken. You know
what I'm saying, You the colonel, your name on the chicken. Like, Man,
this ship I'm putting out there, I'm not. I'm not
putting my name behind that ship. If y'all want to
do what y'all do, y'all can find me, tay my
contract out, I go back to Nike, y'all go somewhere else.
But I got a future in basketball. If I make

(25:22):
this ship, I ain't got no future anybody sitting behind it.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
And you know what I'm not, I'm not. I'm not
too sure that that Nico Harris said, what wasn't the
person to pull the trick? I know you said ownership,
but but I think he did. I mean well heard,
because we all heard the reports about you know this,
excuse me, This whole trade happened because his relationship with

(25:48):
Rob Polinka, you know what I mean. And you know,
they pretty much had a private conversation like hey, if
I give you this, will you give me that? That
that type of business, and they kept it hush hush
because of their relationship. They kept it tight, you know,
tight close to the vest. So I'm not pretty I'm
not sure if this wasn't a Nico idea that he

(26:09):
brought to the ownership and ownership signed off on it.
But I don't know if it was a directive coming
from ownership down to Nico. I'm not I'm not I'm
not convinced that.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I think, you know,
some people like and you know that you have attent coaches,
sometimes they don't like how the head coach treats a player,
you know what I'm saying, how he let what he
lets him get away with. And I think that I
think that's what it was like. I think that Nigo

(26:41):
didn't like how Mark Cuban let Luca run, you know,
and do what he wanted. But the years, man, when
you got somebody that talented, hey, man, you just gotta
eat that ship like you're gonna be They're gonna be great,
and you take that greatness pays off in a lot
of ways. It pays off of your and dice and

(27:01):
your season tickets, you know what I'm saying, and your
TV revenue. Everything's gonna come up when you have a superstar.
So guess what if you were ornery motherfucking around the
building and we just runing shit, would have ordered you
my fucking around the building because they've lost they said
they've lost one hundred and twenty six million dollars just

(27:22):
since that trade with people canceling they shit, people reducing
their season takes one hundred and twenty six million dollars,
and so Frado and to the point of they didn't
want to sign Lucas. You know, the NBA, they got
a salary cap, but they also got a salary floor.
Like you can't. You got to spend the money, you
know what I'm saying, Like you ain't giving it to Luca.

(27:43):
You're not giving that fifty seven to Luca. They're gonna
give the three people. And my thing is, if you're
gonna get three people, are say fifty seven, they ain't
as good as him together, why not giving the fucking money.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, they said ownership was being petty about it since
they couldn't relocate and their other there were other factors
as well, that's why they didn't.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
You just saying that. But all those things don't make
sense at the end of the day, Like, none of
it doesn't make sense because you have to spend the
money anyway. You can't you the NBA, you can't just
sign twelve batmanium players, you know what I'm saying, because
you're gonna come too far under the uh under the floor.

(28:23):
You gotta spend a certain amount of money. You know
what I'm saying to the people. You gotta spend the money, so.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
You gotta They got this, I mean, but you're right,
But you say they got to spend his money as
if they had one hundred and fifty million dollars worth
of salary cap space would have you so you know that.
I mean, it doesn't matter whether he's coming up on
his UH, his UH at the end of his current
MAX deal or not. They still retain his bird rights.
So whether you over the salary cap or whatever the
floor it is, would have you, you can resign him.

(28:50):
You know what I'm saying, it would have you.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
So it was I love PJ. Washington, I love Daniel Gap,
I love doctor. But now the three of them is
gonna get the same money combined that you're gonna give Luca.
Are they worth it? Now?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Now you gotta seure out this because like I said,
uh uh, Kyrie got what another year left? I think
he has a player option. So now you look at
it as if what what I'm assuming that they're gonna
extend him to another two three year deal as well,
So you know what I'm saying, to match it up
with the like I said, to match it up with
the general manager and ad that has three year.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
But so so.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
But then now you're assuming because Kyrie took a short
on his last one right when he read up. But
he but he took the reduced salary as well because
he said he liked Luca, he liked the environment that
was his brother. So now you're assuming that Kyrie gonna
come back after y'all have sugar on this man, Like

(29:53):
that's that's the reality, Like y'all sit it on them
and Kyrie you were God, yeah, Kyrie backs hide. So
Kyrie even though, because the A c l ain't burnt
out king a c l no more. You know what
I'm saying, Like ahblo, people come back from that ship
all the time. You know what I'm saying, Yo, I

(30:15):
don't know that that should that bothers me because and
I don't know, you know, and I just I would
rapen Nco Harrison go and be a stephen Ay say.
You know what, I just ain't like Luca. I ain't
like him. I ain't want him on the team no more.
I'm in charge. I sent him away.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
Rob Blake and my man.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I let him be his problem, and I think that
we can win with But I think that listen, I
think that I'm heading right now to go watch his game.
Because even though we got Kyrie Lively back, gamping back,
every day people Washington back like we're we're we're a problem.

(30:58):
You know what I'm saying, even without Kyrie, like we're
a problem because we are what we walking away with
at a ridiculous high level. You know what I'm saying,
Because when they put Clay comas a statement plan good
D this year, you know it's just now we we
just we're gonna, We're gonna Hey, we're gonna we're gonna

(31:24):
count out a way to sixty eight the sixty seven.
You know what I'm saying. We can't talk port.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
He said, Hey, y'all, you're not a problem.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I just want to start right there.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Y'all, y'all, yeah, y'all, y'all a problem to the to
the fans said that Dallas matthy Frank, Yeah, y'all a problem.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Man.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Then hold up. Then you're gonna say five minutes ago,
he said, Lebron don't play defends no more. And then
in the same breath he said, please.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
No.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I said what I have been pouring better deed this year.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
He better a lot better what it was?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Hey, man, you over here, fan, man.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Something to marriage fan.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
You're man, he really is, bro.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I look at I'm telling what I was saying, black Man,
that he really got he look at what what what
I what I was saying, Man is the same face
I would saying. I got too emotional. Man in the day,
I couldn't even wash the luper Dallas game. Man, I
got to more. All I had to go out said
about God is the god ball man. You know what

(32:49):
I'm said in the corner when I I can't watch
that ship, man, I can't watch it.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Hey, look you and probably about a million of the
Dallas Mavered fan couldn't either, bro. So I understand that
that's that's a that's I would never understand that trade.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
For like me, But that that that awesome defensive team
they put together looks like man semen on their feet,
the one to do.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
He did whatever, And that's the problem. Like when you
look at that game, right, I mean I did turn
it on and I did watch something, but Luca went
out there like he was trying to prove a point, right,
like I got something to prove, like y'all can never

(33:39):
and he went out there like I want to let
Luca prove his for it, you know what I'm saying,
Like I don't want I don't want to understand Luker
improving his point, Like go ahead, look you do what
you do. He's sure night, Like I ain't got you
to do with this, like I ain't get traded too,
Like I ain't the superstar. That's why that's why I say,
like you can't you cannot win with him as your guy,
you know what I'm saying. And I like Kyrie a

(34:00):
lot too, But you can win with car like the proops.
Every time the guy he hasn't won, you know, every
time he the guy he ain't won, Like we got
two Batmans, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, but you know what was obvious just to just
to piggyback off your point before we moved to the
next topic. But uh, what was obvious is the way
the Lakers embraced Luca Daci being the Lakers like, they
embraced him and they encouraged him to go out there
and put in work, and they was gonna support him
no matter what. They was gonna do whatever they needed

(34:36):
to do to let Luca get off. You also come
leave with that win. But then when you looked on
the other side, you know what I mean, they still
those those guys on the Mary Jersey still had emotional
tie to Luca. It wasn't like you didn't see the
same You didn't see the same support and encouragement for
a d like man a d god. Then bust Luca

(34:58):
ass and and the team did rally around him like
like the Lakers there for Lucas. So you know, it's
it's almost like Averone Davis not a full fledged member
of the Mavis ship, because that that should have been
a moment where they embraced him and be like, man,
you it's us now, you know, Lucas, God, it's us.

(35:18):
You our guy. Let's go out there and get busy.
But you didn't you didn't see that same type of support.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Play games for ball?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, oh you man, Nico said, you can tell what
type of team we could be up to two and
a half quarters.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Quarter's brother.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Man.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, they got that brainwashed over there, man.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, yeah, you know yeah. Sticking with the NBA, man,
we got the playoffs about to start. I know, we
had some playing games yesterday. We got some playing games tonight.
I want to get I want to get your predictions
on the first round of in NBA playoffs.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Who do you like?

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Who you think going to advance to the next round?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
H yeah, So I mean what right now? We got
what Cleveland Cavaliers versus to be determined, It don't matter.
I'm taking Cleveland. Okay, we got Boston, Basis Orlando. I
got Boston, New York. This is gonna be a great
series right here, New York, Detroit. I'm going with. I'm
going with Detoy. I am I'm going with Detoy for
the upset right there.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I like the way they playing Indiana versus Milwaukee. I'm
taking Indiana, Okay, see versus to be determined, Okay, see
Houston versus Golden State. Man, damn man, Now that's a
tough one right there. But I'm gonna give it. I'm
gonna give I'm gonna get an edge to Golden State.
At the end of the day. I think Golden State

(36:56):
has more a little just to tab bit, more offense
would have you. Uh, Houston, you know what I'm saying,
They're not as offensively rounded. You know what I'm saying.
It's Golden State. So I'm taking although they can contend
at a high level, but I'm taking Golden State with
that one. In terms of UH, Lakers in Minnesota, Minnesota
Denver versus l A Clippers, I'm going with the Clippers.

(37:21):
Those are my predictions. Man, Look look at it. Tina Turner,
Ike Turner, Kobe Turner, Lakers not in five buddy.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Sorry, man, I would say that on the East something
that East is easy to call. For the most part.
Of course, nobody Cleveland, Boston gonna run through.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I don't think Detroit is ready if well, hold on,
let me say this is uh were healthy, it's Jenn
brust and healthy and yeah, oh healthy New York. They
gonna I got New York and uh who is that
in Milwaukee? Oh no, they.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Milwaukee. They round.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
The first round.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That makes it a toss up. That makeing a toss up.
I say this, I say.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
A say with your chest.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
It's just hard for me to go. I think I
think a lot of times in the first rounds, man
that the best player when you got the best player
by far, like and the Milwaukee got the best player.
Giannis can win three games against Indiana by himself.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
He didn't, he didn't do that. Was he was outlast?
Wasn't he was out?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
So how I don't know. I'm gonna call that a tasso.
I ain't gonna make it full on that. I'm feel
good about it right now. On the other side, Uh,
we're gonna have uh okay, see first Dallas.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Okaye gonna be Dallas.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Don's gonna beat the Sacrament on the night, and then
we're gonna beat uh Memphis on on on Friday. So
we're gonna uh stebling and and they might have uh,
they're gonna have some nightmare from when we played them last.
They're like, damn. You know what I'm saying, when they
got rid of white boys, I got, I got okay self. Okay,

(39:45):
she might get him myself. You know what I'm saying.
I'm uh Houston and go to State. Yeah, and I
gotta see if Jimmy Buckets is healthy. You know what
I'm saying. You've been doing a whole lot of lepers.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Jimmy was available a night, buddy.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
You think he was available.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, he hit thirty eight hit.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Oh well yeah, I'll getting back then I'm taking go
to stay, I take to the city. Come on, man,
Lakers was going And Edwards is a great young player,
but I think that his detament to stop him from
like being elite is the fact that he settles for

(40:26):
too many three pointers. But he will be so much
more effective if he went to the whole because he
he creates pown trouble. Uh, it's just so much more so,
I think, and is in his own way, So he
got to get over that. I get on.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, well pull me And just just ain't mean to
cut you off, but I just want to I just
want to add this because I was joking about the
Lakers and in Minnesota, Lakers gonna win that series. I
want to you want that one because here's the thing. Well,
the Lakers, like I said, they keep talking about Miss.
You know, they gonna do the Ruby Rudy go bed.

(41:05):
You're I think all of us already though, right, that's Miss.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
He's not gonna play Nadree gonna play yeah, because they
first of all, Lucas showed you last year what he
did to every time Luca put him in a pick
and roll, and he's gonna do the same thing. Like
he's gonna do the same thing. And they're gonna put
all the shooters out and listen, man, Lebron.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
The fact that Lebron gas in the.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Corner now willingly is outstanding the standing in the corner
and just wait for an open shot. And he let
Luca ride, and he let Austin reaves and then it's
kind of like, man at the end, man let me,
let me jump in, and we're gonna all bring it home.
So I ain't gonna like to see. I'm not gonna lie.
I like the Lakers in the Pro Brown.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
I like him in the second round.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Against Golden State, and man, okay, she's been good. But
I don't I just don't think I think that the
Lakers are gonna have the best player on the floor.
I think I'll have the third best player on the floor,
and probably the fourth best player on the floor.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
You know what about what do you think about him?
Deficively though? Are they gonna get deficively in those later rounds?
I mean it, I mean it because I mean that
they ain't got nobody in the middle. They ain't got
no shot blockers like that. But that but that strategy

(42:35):
that uh, that dissipated over time, man, y'all was getting
you you know what It's like.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
No, no, that happened, but.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
That that didn't happen until Lebron went down with the
with the growing he remember he was all for like
seven that the defense took it, you know, took a
dep But it looks like it's starting to come back
around again, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
We'll we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Uh, you ain't a different than the Clippers, bro who
you got dimper clippers.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Clippers clip and you know what now now I forgot
the Clippers. Now the way Kawhi plays, Yeah, there you
go okay, right, like the past them maybe right?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:25):
And now if James Hart to get over the bullshit
playoffs James and that he usually is, and then man, look,
I'm calling it Clippers over o k see in the
second round in the Western in the in the Western

(43:46):
Commerce Finals.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I ain't mad at that.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I got the Lakes show waiting going to the finals
against the Boston Celtics. Oh okay, legs Boston, Okay, who
is that? Huh?

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Boston is five.

Speaker 6 (44:11):
Creative. I think the Lakers can win it all.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I do, Okay, I think what you got, Coke?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
So so I got whoever Cleveland played first round? I'm
going with Cleveland. Originally I had Milwaukee beating up, beating
the Pacers, but without without Dame Dolla, I'm gonna go
with the Pacers, you know.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Pacey got a good team they built for the playoffs,
and I'm like Holland and Cheeseburger whatever is Yeah. And
then and then the Knicks and the Pistons. I got
that going going the distance, but I got the Knicks
pulling it out. But that's gonna be one of the
best first round series in my opinion. Right, They're gonna

(45:05):
get it in it.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, that's that's like a ninety that's like a mid
nineties matchup.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, that's the perfect analogy.

Speaker 8 (45:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
And then I got, of course, I got the Celties
over Orlando. That next round, I got the Celtics over
the Nicks. I got Cleveland over the Pacers. I got
the Celtics in and Cleveland, you know, balloting out for
Eastern Conference supremacy. And I'm gonna go with the upset.

(45:36):
It's really not an upset because they the number one seed.
But I got the Cleveland Cavallys representing the Eastern Conference
in the finals. Over on the west side, I got okay,
see whoever they play that first round, Okay, se going demolished, Dell.
I got the Clippers over the Nuggets. I like, I like,

(45:59):
go to State over the Rockets. Rockets, young guns, they
up and coming. But I don't think I think that
the experience and those vets Steph Curry too much stuff,
too much, Jimmy too much, Draymond getting getting in getting
in their heads mentally. I got Golden State winning that.
And then come on, bro, you already know, man, the Lakers,

(46:19):
the Lakers, gonna you know, they're gonna do their things. Minnesota. Man,
that that ship that o g Fredo said in the beginning. Man,
I ain't know if he had a damage bring, if
he was insane or he was on cocaine, but lacas apply. Hey, hey,

(46:43):
straight up. But I got to look that second round,
I got the Clippers being OKC. I'm with you on that, Pooony.
I was talking about that earlier. I mean, Kawhi Leonard
been playing the basket of basketball. We seen him playing years.
He fully, he fully back to himself. Yeah, he got
to stay healthy. And James Harden he's balling out. He's

(47:06):
not only being UH an elite facilitator, but now he's
scoring the ball like he typically can score the ball,
especially when they need it, you know, down the stretch.
So I'm going with that. I'm going Clippers over OKC
on that one. I got the Lakers over Golden State.
Lakas pretty much being on the Golden State in the

(47:27):
past half full of years, you know, carry without without
the rant man he needed, he needed, he need his protector.
So I ain't got carried, you know, doing nothing, doing
nothing against the Lakers. And then the all l a
Western Conference Final. I'm gonna go with the Lakers, and
you got Lebron, Cleveland boy going against his own team,

(47:48):
his his own his old stopping grounds to win his
fifth title.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
I will come on this joint. I will come on
here when y'all talking about Lebron.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, you don't ready know you you you recognize greatness
when you hear nah.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
I just recognized when I hear people talking ship. So
I be ready for that. I be ready to talk
ship back.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
You know what I'm maying, We'll talk your ship.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Nah. I ain't got nothing. I don't, I don't got
nothing to say. I think it's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
You know.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
I think it's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 7 (48:23):
And like I said, one thing, I will say, oh gee,
first and foremost, Man, what a pleasure it is to
have you back on the show. Man.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
Is feel good to see you?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Brother?

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (48:36):
Hey, With that being said, man, let's talk about that
bumba ass nigga.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
A d.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
We ain't talking about.

Speaker 7 (48:47):
I knew it was coming, man, it was only people
talking about people talking about greatness, and he his talent
and this and this and that.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
I guess we're gonna see we're gonna see.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Tonight because gymster ten toes down for him earlier today.

Speaker 7 (49:07):
Man, he tryed, but uh but no, I think it's
I can't wait to see it, man.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
And like I said, when you got Luca, Man, Luca
making that man job so much easier.

Speaker 7 (49:19):
Man, that's why he's so fresh in the fourth quarter,
and that allows him to do what he does.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Facts. Yes, no lives detective.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
So that's just that's just my that's just that's just
my take on you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah, yeah, give us your first round of predictions.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Chap uh, I got it.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
I don't have my I'm I'm gonna throw it at you.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I'm gonna So he got Cleveland coming out the first round.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
You say you got Cleveland and who.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
What you say called?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I'm saying day so they don't know they're gonna play
first round. Yeah, but whoever they play, you got them
coming out the first round.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Yeah, yeah, right, I got Cleveland going to the Eastern Conference. Foundals.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Okay, Cobe, you got the same You got the same
thing too, Yeah, I got.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Cleveland going to the East Yeah the conference.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Who you got you got the you got the Bucks
or the Pacers?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
I got is uh is uh Damian little able.

Speaker 7 (50:30):
I got the upsetting them I got I got the
Pacers upset in Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
All right, the next of the Pistons, the nixt.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
He sounds like he's.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Like, I like, I like, I like this.

Speaker 7 (50:54):
I like I like Detroit, but it's hard to beat
the New York That's something about that Matterson square guard
and man get crazy in it.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah yeah, and then of course you got the Celdiers
and the Magic.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
I like. I like to sell example, I sweep mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, yeah, what about whoever?

Speaker 4 (51:25):
I like Minnesota. I like Minnesota to upset the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Okay, well, well, would you like to place a bed
on that? How about that? I would I would like
a wages forever one.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
I like Minnesota, the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yes, we.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Like Houston State.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
M hmm, he froz.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Okay, gready, what do you say State?

Speaker 4 (52:08):
I think I'm gonna go with.

Speaker 8 (52:09):
Houston man, okay, Denver l a Clippers, Denver Okay, Okay, And.

Speaker 7 (52:19):
Yeah, I don't I don't believe in James Harden, he determined. Okay,
I don't believe it. I don't believe in James Harden.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
What y'all?

Speaker 7 (52:29):
I know y'all already talked about it. What y'all think
about the quarterback from tenn Tennessee, No, we ain't got
to it yet.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Oh okay, my back, let's move on.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
So at the end of the day, we had we
had a draft w n b A Draft twenty twenty
five w NBA Draft page backers went first. Uh, she's
going to the wings. Who you think? Who you guys opinion?
Who you think was the biggest winners of the w
n b A drive the mystics?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Three, yeah, I mean yeah, you pick up what sonya Citron,
the guard forwards out of or the dame. Then you
pick up Kiki uh interframe, Uh what the forwards last
center of the USC. Then you pick up the point guard.
Georgia Moore, you know what I'm saying, used to play
for Virginia Tech. Now she she played this year at Kentucky. Yeah,

(53:31):
I mean yeah, I mean yeah. You talk about versatility, man,
And now that they got a chance to start, they
got the actually got a chance to start and get
a significant planning time.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yeah, because they all the guard slashes empty right now.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Like that, Yeah, they got Yeah, you're absolutely right. So yeah,
they uh, yeah, they got rid of a lot of
veterans and stuff like that, although they got a couple
still left on that squad, but yeah, the young and
then they picked up another young and from out uh
Lucy Osen. She's a nice point that she's to take
for Villanova. So yeah, so yeah they picked her up
as well in the second in the second round. So

(54:09):
now I love what they did, man.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, yeah, I wish I could uh get a pass
to their practices ahead of the opening night to see
that that that front court battle for for starting spots
because a little younger, cheeky everything that they just drafted
as the real deal. So I know that. Leah Edwards
she said, yeah, nice, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I

(54:35):
wanted to see her in Austin battleing it out in
practice because they that's who's going to be battling for
that starting power forward spot. But is it Sena though,
well her and shorty uh Leah.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Edwards, they kind of okay, like interchangeable, interchangeable.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, I got you. Uh And then you know Page Becketts, Man,
I think she's gonna she she's gonna have his twenty
plus off rip. I think she's gonna come in the
league and do her thing, don't. I don't think she's
gonna have any grown pains. I think it's gonna be
a smooth transition.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I don't like your playing, god though, I don't think
I think you want to be a good player. But uh,
they got that there, they got that that joke down
there that they got ain't giving up no whole lot
of shots. She ain't gonna be getting twenty.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
But she's gonna pay you, gonna have the ball in
her hand.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
And Ricke is gonna have herds and them shots going
up through Uh do a Rik. He's gonna get hurds.
But but it's hard to get twenty in forty minutes
for two people, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Right, But she she's gonna take she gonna take some
press off of ri K too. She's gonna take a
take some press off. I just don't like I just
don't like her at the point guard position. That's I
guess That's what I'm somewhat you know, I'm somewhat confused
about because they like that point And I was like, what, okay,
I mean, I'm not saying that she can't and not
say that she's incapable, but yeah, I'd like to see

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her playing a little bit off the ball as well.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
So yeah, yeah, you got a man, who else you
like from from the first round, from that w NBA
drift that you think is maybe a sleeper or gonna
make an impact as a rookie in a w NBA
coming up this summer.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
The number two pick, the number two pick that got
picked up from Seattle to.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
The young girl.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yeah six six six seven, uh six six sixty seven center. Man,
she can, like I say, she can shoot it from outside.
She can you know, she can play inside. She I mean,
she dunked the ball with ease. So yeah, I really
like her. I can't pronounce her name, but I really
like her. I really like her game.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah yeah, I just didn't you know, I haven't watched
her enough in terms of playing it against competition. You know,
I've seen her workouts and all that stuff, and and
like you said, she's done for she does probably better
than your your boy, you know what I'm saying. But uh,
I just didn't know if she was one of those

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ones that's going to need maybe a couple of seasons
as under her.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Bellow, I don't I don't think so, bro, because she
played in the professional played against the Olympic team this year.
She played on there, the number one euro League team whatever.
I think she averaged like thirteen and like thirteen or
eight or what have you. Don't you know what I'm saying.
She had these numbers, man, So yeah, she has playing
professional for the past couple of years. So yeah, the NBA, BRO, like, no,

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she's starting day one. She's not a project or anything.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
I think.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I don't know. I just don't know. When you gotta
get that good bump every single night, like every single night,
you're gonna get your better So Welana.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
By the way, dominated Malunga ma Longa.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I don't know about the first round for that first Tiger,
the second round out of Alabama.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Did you see her and her sister Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah Barker, Barker, you know what Alabama?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah, man, yeah, no no, no, no, no, no no,
I'm not talking about Barker. I'm talking about uh did
you see her and her sister's coch.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
But guess what for me what the mystics got her?
The mystics got her?

Speaker 2 (58:24):
No, no to uh, I forget what she went Listen man,
I'm just saying that. Man, that girl find as frogs here. Man,
I ain't gonna lie to you. He plays well. She
played for Alabama. She she was a three point shooter
for Alabama. Her last name is Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
You're right nine. You're absolutely right, bro, Yeah, you're right.
She had three points specialists.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Barker girl did go through the mystics.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
I think, Okay, I got you, I got you. Yeah yeah, okay,
yeah no for me, Yeah yeah, I get your honey
on that one. Yeah you're right.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah. But yeah, man, look, I want to I want to.
I want to end the show. I want to wind
down and show by by talking about uh Tennessee's quarterback.
I'm not even gonna try to butcher his last name.
I think it's e my Layover or something like that.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah, So I want to get your guys start on
him leaving Tennessee after n I l contract dispute and
it seemed like it's not really a big market for
right now that he's in the transfer portal.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
So I want to.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
I know Old Dog had some had some thoughts about
about Nico, So I want to start with you, o Dog,
what's your what's your thoughts from Tennessee quarterback leaving the
school and entering the transfer portal. Uh.

Speaker 7 (59:46):
My thing is, uh, you know, uh Nick Saban told
us about this happening a long time ago.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
The reports are, mh they went to the college football playoffs.

Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
He wanted some more money because they went to the
college football playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
And my thing is, if you are in a contract.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
And you sign, you sign it, then you should you
should you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Honor honor that joint.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Regardless if you go to the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
And what we're finding out is these kids and I
and I think I think it's to be honest with you,
I think it's really the the people that are behind
this thing, right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
I think it's that O. G.

Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
Or that person who was helping them with their overall,
their overall, you know, the person that is helping them out.
I think that's the one that that that's becoming the
problem because they the ones that's asking for more money.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
They know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
I think I think it's though, I think it's those guys.
But now now people to seem like he ain't really
he truly don't love the game.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
He really about himself.

Speaker 7 (01:01:10):
I mean, if you an officer of lineman, I mean,
poom probably can speak to this more than I can.
You really want block for somebody like that, Like you really,
you know, you really gonna try, you know what I'm saying.
Like you, you know, I'm all for you getting your money,
but slim you like we in the middle of a player.
We were in the middle of the college football playoffs

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and you saying, you you you, I need some more bread.
We're trying to go to o how We're trying to
go to Ohio State and win. You know, I'm a
different I'm a different type of person. I truly love football,
trust and believe I would have I would have wanted
to get compensated for me out there. But if somebody

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give me two million dollars, you know what I'm saying,
and I'm out there for all and doing my things. Yeah,
and then you and then if you wanted to read
theotiate bro at least wait till after the season.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
You renegotiating in the middle in.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
The during the college football playoffs, and then you don't show,
and then you don't show, and then you don't show
up for the you know, for the for the spring
ball and practices and stuff like that, that sort of
I can't even fathom that type of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
And uh yeah, so I think it's wild.

Speaker 7 (01:02:25):
He showed his hand, whoever was behind him, his team
showed their hand.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
So now down school's gonna be like, now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
We're good, we're good on you.

Speaker 7 (01:02:34):
Because for every young and that's at Tennessee, it's another
one in Washington, DC quarterback that's eleven years old. It's
another quarterback somewhere in Florida, it's another quarterback somewhere out
on the West coast.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
It's too much push from the bottom. So yeah, that's
just my serion.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Because like I think I would be more if he
tried out in the playoffs. I think we're just getting reports,
and reports are always gonna be put from no.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
Hold on pool. I'm not just getting reports.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
I actually spoke to t Martin, who is the officer
coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens and who is who brought
University of Tennessee a national championship. Well, I'm not I'm
not getting reported. I'm getting it live from the I'm
getting it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
To stab last year. I ain't think you under stand last.

Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
Year you understand you want to stablish Ti Mart's Baltimore
Ravens staff, but his staff. But like I said, he
brought Tennessee a national championship.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I know, I know what I'm not debating that. What
I'm saying is those reports are coming from the coaching staff.
You know what I'm saying. They coming from to say, oh,
he was doing this in the That's coming from the
coaching staff, is what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Okay,
but my only report that is if young a money
like we hear a lot about that, won't hear nothing

(01:04:03):
about Miadi? My mom?

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
Just so far?

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Come back? Hey man, this ship, ain't it a spring ball?

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
You need to get the funk on. I know we
promise you for a million, but get the on and
he's gone to Georgia.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
What's the what's the problem with that? If you know
what I'm doing, If we're treating him like pros.

Speaker 7 (01:04:22):
And we can, if we can pay him, then if
they're not good, then what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
What I'm saying, Oh, if the school can say we're
gonna get this fly, you could you ain't what we thought?

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Why can't the kids say, man, I'll.

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
Perform what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I want more money.

Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
I didn't say you couldn't ask for more money after
the season was over with, after we.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Go over your overall over your overall spring ball.

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
You know, he was trying to get.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Yeah and now and now on that point me, he
he didn't leave. They said, nah, you go, were good.
So he didn't leave. Basically, what he tried to do
is hold them hostage and say you know what, Hey,
I know where you're paying me two point four million dollars.
I'm looking for it. I'm looking to get up to
four million dollars. So look at and this message of

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a Nico. Next time you negotiate, make sure that you
got something in hand.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
So I don't know if you thought you I don't
know if he thought that he was gonna catch Tennessee
bluffing or what have you. And they called his bluff.
Come to find out, he really didn't have a backup
plan because everybody backed up. Now I heard that he
did sound with uc LA today or what have you.
And then he said this is what he said. It
was not really about the money, it was about the system.
He didn't he felt that he didn't fit the system

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at Tennessee. Come on, I love what Tennessee did, did
what you call a precedent in terms of this ain't.
We ain't gone for no shit like this going for.
We're not. And now I love and admire everything they
did until old's point. Nick Saban said this, this exactly
what Nick Saban said a couple of years ago. And

(01:06:05):
now it's coming to fruition.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I'm saying that SA had years to do right by
the kids, and they didn't. At every turn they said
fuck them kids. And now that the kids got the power,
I'm alright with it. Like it's a decision you make
as a young man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
He said for his team, he said fuck my team.
He left his team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
He didn't leave. When did he leave his team? What
are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
He didn't show up the practice. He didn't show up
the practice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
He didn't show it right last Friday, he didn't show up.
So he was like, man that I'm here basically saying
I'm holding out. I ain't going to I ain't going
to I ain't going to o t A. Now what
he's saying, I ain't showing up at Oka no more.
You know, he said, I'll be in can't, but I
ain't going to Oka until I get this new money.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
But but I want you to answer this because oh
said this, So you being a former uh office a
lineman slash all Americans, right, how would you have felt
in that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
If he ain't show up in springall?

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
You know, you're not football, You're not you look at
we all played football, but you played. You're playing on
a high level.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
And you know what it is in terms of I think,
I think it's I think so the spring ball thing
I probably wouldn't have problem with. If it was the
playoffs and he ain't show up, That's that's a totally
different stores. You know what I'm saying that if he
if we if he don't get on that play we
go to the playoffs and he like I need Yeah,
that's a totally different stores. I got we you know,

(01:07:35):
have to smell my cologne. But in springball you over
and try and get more money.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Go ahead, Yeah, I just respect what Josh Haipel did. Man, Like,
you know what, now, we ain't gon We ain't going
for this man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Uh, I'm just saying I've all football coaches got they
are uh they get drunk with power you know what
I'm saying, they love they they're controlling bunch. Like it's
it's a reason that you look at at football is
like the only sport where professionals still got curfew you

(01:08:14):
know what I'm saying. Like they ain't got no curfews
in the Major League Baseball or the NBA, you know
what I'm saying, Like it's just in football, Like because
football coaches are they like to control so much, you
know what I'm saying. And I think that the fact
that now these youngers have some power and they can't
control it. You know, they don't like it. They don't
like the fact that they can jump in the portal

(01:08:34):
when they want to. Coaches always you know they're saying,
now all this shit making all these schools like junior college,
Well guess what before coaches left whenever they wanted to.
You know, coaches, you can have an assistant coach and
they'll go all the way through the spring, summertime a
better job open up, they leave, you know what I'm saying.
So that's it's always finish stepping stone for the coaches.

(01:08:58):
But now the players are and they don't like Yeah,
but poon me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Uh but here's the thing that you you're missing though. Bro,
it's not like he had It's not like he had
an All American years prime. It's not like he was
putting cam Ward numbers up. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
It's not like he threw through four hundred yards. He
threw over four hundred yards against Ohio State. You know
what I'm saying. In the playoffs with Abby, they shut
his ass down. Now I'm not You're right, I'm off
for people. I'm off of these players getting paid. But
when he did this, like I said, he misutilized his
power and you and and until those points talking about Palles,
it was his ad and it was greed and they

(01:09:41):
tried to utilize it and they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Predo to remember when they offered the free well seven
million dollars and he said, I can't eat and feed
my family off that. And guesses that much he made
after that not a iCal. Ain't nobody getting no money,
So that that's a that. Uh, I'm forty youngers getting
the money. I'm for them, But in that you're gonna

(01:10:06):
learn some life lessons. You learn, you learning, Like I'm
not saying, I'm not saying younger dond I'm not saying
do wrong. I'm saying that he got the option to
do it. Like, all right, you think you don't play Joe,
you're dealing. You're going to ask for more. That's cool,
But it's some ship to come with that flip. There's
some shit to come with that. You might not get

(01:10:26):
the two points back. I don't know what you feel
like gave them, you know what I'm saying. But what
I'm saying is now, I don't have a problem with
the kids having that option. You know what, I don't
have to I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Never I never said.

Speaker 7 (01:10:39):
I've obviously stated that when we had the basketball on
here with Chris, and I've obviously said that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
I'm talking about it as a teammate. I'm talking about it.

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
You saying, once again, you saying from the coaches, that's
what the coaches is saying, that's what we're hearing from
the coaches. I just I'm I'm telling you what I
heard it personally from somebody that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
Is around the program. That's somebody who has a street
named after him in Knoxville. That's what I'm saying. I
heard it from. So I don't care.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
I'm telling you as a as a teammate, if if
our leader is that's, if that's what he's on, you
know what I'm saying, then you know, I'm just saying
as a teammate, I.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
Really don't want nothing to do with a motherfucker like that.

Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
So your offensive lineman, if you choose a block four motherfucker,
then that's y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
You know, so big.

Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
But I'm just telling you as a teammate, if that's
what he on, when we're trying to build and we're
trying to come together and we're trying to do something,
and he and he talking about I'll played my deal
now if it's not true, if they didn't do it
in the college if he didn't do it in the
college football playoffs, and he and he and he did
it you know after you know, right after the season,

(01:11:53):
and he's been you know, going back and forth, then
so bid. But when it's time to go to work
and we're trying to we're trying to go to Ohio
State and we're trying to win, you know, our first
playoff is the very man.

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
We're trying to do something, then I have I have
That's just me. I have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
So you know what I mean, if it's a playoffs,
I got a problem. I would not have the same
problem as spring Boat. That's why I was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
I got you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:22):
I got you because you because you like, if you're
gonna get it something done, then do it in the
spring before we go to the fall, right before we
before time your real bullet go.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
I got you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
Understand that, But like you said, what comes with it? Good?
Good luck?

Speaker 7 (01:12:36):
Good luck to him at U C l A and
every and every year everywhere else he goes. You know
what I'm saying, because now the president is out on
the young kids, so he got to go crazy and
have some crazy numbers. Because if I'm a if I'm
an NFL guy, I don't want nothing to do with
him period because they said, asshole last year, you can't
run my you you ain't gonna run my team.

Speaker 5 (01:12:56):
You ain't gonna be in my locker room.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
I'm good, good, yeah, yeah, I mean I think you
all made made some made some great points, and I
agree with oh. Like, as a teammate, you know, you
come into the season with one goal in mind, and
you think that all of you are lockstep. You know
what I'm saying to to reaching that goal, and with

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the quarterback being your leader, you expecting him to lead
the way, be an example, you know what I mean,
And and let's get busy. But then all of a
sudden you like, oh, no, I'm not I'm not coming
to camp because you know, I want a couple extra
million dollars because I felt like I outplayed my my
original agreement, you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
But at the same time, on the business side of it,
you know that's how you feel, That's how you feel.
The whole nil thing is supposed to be kind of
like on a job training anyway, let these youngins know
how to deal with getting contrast big money, managing it.
And then also part of the part of the next
level is it's going to be since wasting where people
gonna sit out, hold out from camp and want new

(01:14:04):
contracts in this, that or the other. So let just
be a learning opportunity for the young man. Let him
sit down, negotiate with him, or get some people around
him where that you get is there and say, look,
just how you do this. You don't do it like this,
but you need to do it like that. So that's
going to better prepare him when he does get to
the next level. Let him make all the mistakes she's making. Now,

(01:14:25):
you know it's college, it's still I know they getting paid.
It's still college amateur sports in my eyes. So if
he's gonna make the mistakes, let him make it now
so that way he'll be more prepared when he get
to the next level.

Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
Hey, pig back on what he said and what you
all are saying. I got a person, I got an
example of how they move on. I got a young kid,
went to went to Marshall, left Marshall and transport portal.
He went with the quarterback. The quarterback left Marshall and
went down up Florida Atlantic.

Speaker 5 (01:15:01):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:15:02):
He was there for two years, right, But then this
year this offseason, jumped in the portal right after the season.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
Now he's at Central Florida.

Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
Central Florida's told the wide receiver my little young Hey,
we're good on you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:15:21):
So now he's at Florida Atlantic. He's doing he did well,
he killing or whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:15:27):
But now you know the NBA the back in football scholarships,
it's not or the roster, it's no more than one fifteen.

Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
I think it's one on five or something. Like that
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Okay, so scholarship, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
No more walk on you sure?

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
The kid I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 7 (01:15:49):
I just know that the kid that told him, the
kid that told him, and why he felt so fucked up,
was was a walk on. He didn't get the he
didn't get the news from a five star. He didn't
get kid news from a four star. He got the
news from a fucking walk on that he was one
of the kids the last ops, you know, the last
three or four on the chopping block. So he go, so,

(01:16:12):
now he goes, so, now this what's fucked up, though, Fredo,
and this is what's messed up.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
Coach Boom. They tell him that he finds out from
the walk on kid. He calls the head coach. He
caused the position coach. Position coach keeps.

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
A buffet, said, yup, you are one of the last three,
last five that's on the chopping block.

Speaker 5 (01:16:32):
Balls the head coach, head coach like yep. But they
tell him.

Speaker 7 (01:16:37):
He finds out the spring game is last Friday. He
found out on Thursday, Thursday morning, Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:16:47):
So now he goes, he does well in the spring game.
He has he balls, out leads, passing yards, whatever, everything,
Monday on it. You're no longer will You're no longer
once you finish this semester. You are no longer on scholarship,

(01:17:10):
no longer, n I M. We will not be uh
you know you nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
So now he gotta go on the transfer report.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Yeah, transfer transferport is about to close too, right, So
on some aspect, I get it because a lot of
these college kids ain't gonna play pro anyway, So get
as much money as you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
Can when you can.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
So I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
But but in the in in a minute, cold and
fraid of what they really gonna do is they're gonna
get it. They're gonna just do contracts. We're gonna do
a contract and it's probably gonna be a thing where
you can go in the portal one time.

Speaker 5 (01:17:47):
After that, you gotta you for your contracts. You trying,
you gotta you gotta you know what I'm saying, You
gotta uh, you gotta play it out. So yeah, it's
it's a dirty game out here, man, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Yeah. It needs to have some some type of you know, like,
so I'm off, I'm off for the transfer portal and
and players getting paid and stuff like that. But you're right,
it gotta be some type of guidelines and restrictions it
do because right now, out of hand on both sides,
it's out of hand.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
I like the wild Wild West to do it the
right way. Let it be the wild wild West. Get
as much money as you can. Everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
You're saying, free enterprise, why not because situations like this.
But then again, if you're saying, hey, it's on them.
They put this stuff in this situation like the like
you know what I'm saying in terms of uh, the
story that O just told us.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Then yeah, we're talking about putting rules in place. All
the rules that everybody wants is rules to restrict the kids.
They want rules to benefit the colleges. If the rules
will come in and be beneficial to the kids, I'm
for it, right, But but what I don't want to restrict.
I don't want to restrict the kids ability to move

(01:19:11):
to earn for the college. Like because so they want
a rule and that you can only so to the
old point like that that you can only chance for
a one time, right, And I get it, I get it,
but that benefits the school the young and and O
talking about what his where's his protection. They ain't saying, like,
all right, if that rule and you can want to

(01:19:33):
transfer once, but once transfer and you go to a
school of a school can't get rid of you. You
know what I'm saying that that that deal is that
is locked in and you you sign that deal, you
you straight for four years. If that's the case, then
I'm for it.

Speaker 7 (01:19:46):
But if if the deal says the kid change, that's
what I said.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
I said that you do.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
You know what I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Just said.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
Once I said they're gonna start doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
No I heard that. What I'm saying, But if that
deal doesn't have protection for the kids, is what I'm saying,
because coaches since the beginning of time have always been
able to run kids off in certain ways. And what
I'm saying is if they got protections for the school,
for the coaches, if I'm behind it. As long as
the kids got protection, I'm behind them. Signed that contract

(01:20:24):
as long as like you said, oh, they can't keep that, dude,
you can't be one of the last on that chopping block.
Because I got it. I got a contract for three years,
then I'm gonna get my I'm gonna give my three
years of my education whatever. So if I give my
three years, I ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Well, it's not gonna be a contract for three years.
It's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be a contract on
an annual basis. They're not. It's not gonna be a
three year contract. Yeah yeah, because hey, look at today's production.
Ain't tomorrow's production. You understand saying Kobe gave me eighteen.
If Kobe gave me eighteen points a game last year,

(01:21:00):
movies ams in two point three. You know what I'm saying, saying,
what what two point seven turnovers a game? Kobe ain't
getting what he got last year. I mean, we all
know that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
That's but that's that's the part of the contract. That's
what you that's the dice roll. If I want to
sign somebody. This was just eighteen you know, ship no
different than give the readers. When Gil the Renas was
scoring thirty, his deal looked good. When his knee blew up,
it did not look like a good deal no more.
That's part that's a that's the dice of rolling that kind. So,
and that's what I'm saying. A contract for one year

(01:21:29):
only benefits the school. It only benefits the school how.

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
Would it not benefit the kids?

Speaker 7 (01:21:36):
Because the kid can transfer if he if it's if
a one if it's a one year contract, the kid
can get as much money he can.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
He can transfer a full.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
Time Okay, So so then what if it's just a
one year then then then where's then? Then what is it?
What's the benefit of a one year because kids on
the one year?

Speaker 7 (01:21:54):
Now, I mean I just feel like because you get
it in you get it in writing, and I feel
like when you got it in writing and it's in
that contract, I just feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
That your scholarship is in writing.

Speaker 7 (01:22:10):
Yeah right, but but you got but you got the
situations like the young but you got situations like the
quarterback from Vegas this past year he played three games
and then he wanted to ring.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
Yeah, but if it's a one year contract, he.

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
Would have had the players you play that contract out,
yeah and.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
See and see see.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Oh but to my point, that only benefits the school.
They don't benefit the kids.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
How does it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:43):
The kid when it's teaching the kid about you? If
you if you signed something, then you man, how is
that not benefiting the kids?

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Yes, that's not it's not benefiting them because every kid
not gonna be the kids. Some kids gonna be like
your wide receiver and gonna be on the chopping block
at the end of the year. So so that one
of your dealer is not benefiting them. My one deal,
it ain't gonna benefit everybody because.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Everybody you know what put me I'm i'm me personally, man,
I'm into life lessons, right, look at it again. I
think we all can. I think we all agreed that Hey,
you know what, we have no issues with these uh
with these college kids getting paid, college kids getting paid.
I'm I'm, I'm for all of that. But at the

(01:23:32):
end of the day, and then we're talking about and
then we're talking about the transfer a portal. I don't
like these kids where every time something go wrong you
gotta transfer. I like, like I said, you get one transfer.
Any transfer as after that you gotta sit you got this,
you have to sit out all for a year. Or
if it's a situation where your coach leave, then you
know what I'm saying, then you can transfer or something

(01:23:54):
like that. But sense the thing, boomy, what are we
teaching these kids At the end of the day, anytime
something go wrong, you run. Nah, you came through the
goddamn job.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Man, you fight through it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
You know what I'm saying. You want your assf you compete?
What happened to the practitions?

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
I think you you certain I understand what you're staying
like on a micro level, right, But it's a it's
a I think it's a bigger cultural thing, right because
where you work, afraid of.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
You?

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Where you were at the trademark office.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
How long you been there?

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Fourteen years?

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Fourteen years? Right? And then before that you was wet.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Uh really I was in real estate. I was a
real estate.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
But my point is, now these your kids have seven
jobs in ten years, they move jobs. Where you come
from generation where people work somewhere and they worked for
twenty thirty years, they you know, and then you may
move a job, but you can't move a job every
one or two years. If you saw a resume where
somebody was had seven jobs in ten years, you'd be like, man,

(01:24:55):
what the fuck was wrong with this person? Now if
you see somebody resume somewhere for ten years now, they're like,
what then is wrong with that person? Why they why
they not moving? Why? So I'm saying I think it's
it's cultural like this, this younger generation. They're not They
don't get nerved to things the same way. They don't
get stuck in situations. They're more looser saying all right,

(01:25:16):
well i'll go here, I'll go there, you know, and
that that is what it is.

Speaker 9 (01:25:21):
Yeah, but you know what I think that Yeah, okay,
look at hey, coach, I ain't trying I'm not trying
to nong with this because we get this just right here, man,
because I got I got I got crazy opinions on this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Yeah, that's that's no. It's a great conversation. It's a
great topic and I agree with For me, I was
just talking about that yesterday. Put me, it's funny you
just mentioned that where you know people you know, back
in the day, they stayed at a job twenty thirty
years retired or maybe longer. I mean, I know, to
come network for we got people been at fifty years plus.

(01:25:58):
But now you know what I'm saying, the new wave,
the new thing to do is you go to a
job a couple of years, then you're gone going to
the next one. Go go to that job a couple
of years, a few years, you gone to the next one.
So it is a it is a I guess a
new trend or a new thing. That's what these kids
are growing up with. They're not growing up with the

(01:26:19):
same type of mindset that we had where you start whatever,
wherever you start at, that's what you're sticking with, the
loy ut thing and all that good stuff. They don't
have that no more.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
I'm glad you said that, Kobe, because I'm gonna come
up with this point and then I and then I'll
fall back. So, yeah, you're right, because if I look
at a resume, if I look at it, and to
what Kobe, to Kobe's point for me, if I see
a resume, right, and I see a resume where a kid,
let's just say a twenty eight year old had ten jobs,

(01:26:54):
let's just say, had ten jobs in five years, that's
very disturbing to me, that that really is, because that's
telling me if I hire you, then how long I'm
gonna have you keep jumping? And you keep jumping and
jumping you know what I'm saying, jumping job a job,
So I mean, what are we doing here? So why
should I hire you? Because I don't see any stability,
you know what I'm saying. At you know what I'm

(01:27:15):
saying at these particular jobs and stuff like that. I'm
saying that to say this in terms of this particular generation,
it's not all. But in terms of this generation whatever,
it just seems like we live in a we we
live in all we live in a microwavable society, and
we live in a and we live in a participation
trophy society. Nobody wants to work. Nobody wants to put

(01:27:35):
in that work. Nobody wants to get that. Nobody wants
to get that, get that good bump every when shit
go wrong. People want to run. That's I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
You can't fathom that for for anybody, can't out of anybody,
I can't fathom that. Man, get hard. You want to run, Well,
guess what, That's not what life is about. Because when
football ends and you got to get in the real
world or what have you? And guess what and you
and you facing Game seven every day of your life,
Young step saying, when you reach adulthood, then what then?

Speaker 5 (01:28:06):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
So what are we teaching these kids? I agree with
everything that everybody said in terms of the transfer reportal
and these and these players getting paid, but it needs
it just need to be We just need to rill
it in just a little bit, man, because again I'm
off of everybody getting paid transfer reportal would have you.
We just got to tone it down a little bit, man,
because this ship is like the wild Wild West, bro,

(01:28:28):
it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Yeah, excellent point and I think that's a good note
to end on. Man. I I couldn't have said it
any better. O g And look, man, this was a
great conversation, great show this evening fellas we had the
og back with us, Man, it was definitely a pleasure
rapping would you chopping it up and debating with you?

(01:28:53):
One more gear for the note cast forts show. So
in the spite of og Fredo being man, where would
you take it out?

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
G hey, look here, I'm gonna keep it like I'm
gonna keep it like, what's my man? What's my man
named Russell?

Speaker 8 (01:29:06):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
What's what's the what's the dude from death comedy jam?

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
What's you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Look at?

Speaker 7 (01:29:22):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
God?

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
Blessing?

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
Good night?

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Have you I got your Michael will bobble Hey, I'm
trying to the playoffs