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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're alive all right.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, welcome to the No Cap Sports Show. I am
your host, more Money.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm your host, Coach Milton, I am your host old
dog a k a oh, we are missing one of
our hosts today, Uh coach Kobe Turner A ka da Kobra.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Shout out to you, safe travels to you and the fen.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Indeed, what that what that being said?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
What's happening fellas? Hey?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Another good week to start.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The football?
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Oh man, hey, hey, we got football from now on
until till the Super Bowl. Let's do it U, no question,
no question. I'm excited. I can't wait for tomorrow. Starting
tomorrow in these preseason games go. And I know a
lot of people don't like to watch the preseason, but
(00:57):
I'm a big preseason guy because, uh, I know how
what those young men are fighting for.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So I'm a I'm a big preseason guy.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
So I like to watch a lot of the preseason
and find the hitting gyms and things like that. So
I'm excited to see these guys get their opportunity. And
uh also see some of the veterans that you know
that's coming off of injuries or you know, maybe gonna
play a couple of snaps things like that. So I'm excited.
I'm excited about tomorrow and this weekend asolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I think it's a It's good to point out that
the NFL preseason is not like the NBA. No offense
to those guys, but some of those guys.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
You might not ever hear again in life. But in
the NFL you got Hall of famers out there. Man,
it was a preseason legend and the list going and on.
Shannon Shark was a preseason lesson, So yeah, you never
know who you might see out there.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
For sure, either of you guys.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Catch the Buffalo Bills, the what is it? Hard Knocks?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
No, I didn't find out about it.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I knew it was coming the show was coming on,
but I didn't know it started until earlier in the day.
I saw somebody mention it and I was like, damn,
I missed the first episode, but I'm gonna watch it
as soon as down here, I'm gonna watch I was
the first episode it was.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
It was dope. It was dope, so definitely catch it.
Definitely catch it.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Some of the things you spoke about, you got some
veterans balance with some of the new guys. It's cool
to see how they're taking each other under the wing
and getting h you know how that Buffalo Mafia crowd
is the fan base. This is pretty dope. And they
got the new stadium that they're building too.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah that that opens that opens up next next year,
twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I mean one thing to point out though, unlike the
NBA where it's coming back, because of the way the
NFL salary cap is right now, with the quarterbacks taking no.
Lie forty forty to sixty percent of the salary cap,
you gotta have vets in there.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
You gotta have vests in it. Yeah. I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I don't know why the NFL don't just make the
quarterbacks you have your own salary cap and then just
let the then chop up that money with the you know,
the rest of that money with the players, man. But
you know, with the quarterbacks taking damn there fifty of
the salary cap, man, it's hot.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
And then when you add a cumulative quarterbacks, so let's
say you got a good room, right, you know, I'm
going with that like you got a justin Herbert and
I just say like a Chase Daniels from back in
the day. Chase Daniels wasn't the normal backup quarterback, so
ten to you know, five to ten mil, not to
count his pockets. But then you got somebody like Justin Herbert,
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who getting another forty fifty million.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That's sixty million sitting in one.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Room in one run.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I love. Look, I would love to be in there
with him. Give me.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
I mean, I wouldn't I be the best water boy
clipboard holder and water boy clipboard Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Man, you wouldn't have to worry about me.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Pride head be held, high, head be held.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
You you want to have to worry about me for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
For speaking of that though, you know they brought Teddy
b back, Teddy Bridgewater just to do that presence to
the locker help our Baker Mayfield Bridge. So your reputation,
you said all the time, Oh dog, your reputation will
precede you. And sometimes they pay you just about your
attributes more than your talent, no, no question, no question, And.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And then and then on that.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Now now, now the parents can do what they want
to do with that high school football team since they
don't want to happen there.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Good luck, Yeah, shout out the DVD shout out and
Sean Spence, I know you all with some of the
guys that was fighting for for for y'all former teammate.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Uh, but y'all gotta get that together, man, y'all gotta
get that together.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
You know they are Northwest alumni, but y'all got to
get that. I know Spencer's I don't think. I think
I don't know about d v D, but I know
for sure Spencers.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So y'all gotta.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Get Hey, Teddy said, don't worry about it. Y'all can
go play on Friday night. Come see your coach down
on the sideline on Sunday. We're gonna be all right.
I still got you, man.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, they fumbled the bag on that one man, And
like I said, I feel bad for the kids and
the alumns.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, kids the one to take the blount of it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Man, most great, great, Well what we got.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Congratu.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I was starting it off money mope, man.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I tell you what we're gonna We're gonna kick it
back old school, old dog. Well back in the day
we first started, no cap each one of us had
a topic. Ain't no prompting, no scripting. Hey, what you
want to talk about. Oh, so I'll kick it off,
all right. The first topic or thing that's really bothered me.
Y'all seen it in the chat. I'm sorry been blowing
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y'all up about it. I feel like it's not just
Jerry Jones, but it's other owners too. The Bengals owner,
I don't know his name. He come to mind too,
to where I don't think they respect the players for
what they put out there on the field. So how
do y'all feel like NFL owners view players in their relationship?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Go ahead, Coach Milton, I'm go ahead.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
You know what's crazy? Man?
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I just me and my wife just sat down Friday night.
We was bored nothing on TV and we pulled up
the Kaepernick Black or White specials. That's how I feel
about it. Both my boys were sitting to the left
and right.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Is that a stretch? I said, what do you think?
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
When they pulled the slavey line through, they was doing all,
you know, mesurable stuff. I say, hey, man, how many
how many black owners are in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
And then how many black players in the NFL? You know?
Speaker 6 (07:07):
And so for me, I just think, you know, not
not only Jerry Jones, but just as a as a
ownership group.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Man, it's it's a good old boys club, you know. Uh.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
They they run it like a high operating corporation. I
think it's probably the biggest corporation in America. I think
it's probably one of the most powerful organizations in America.
And it's a billionaires boys club, you know. I think
you got a few minority owners, you got a few
women owners. But that's that's old that's old, old money, man,
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and they gonna do what they want to do. They
treat the players how they want to treat them. And
if you get out of line, and you know, a
lot of people don't believe it, but look at what's
happening with your door. They keep them in line. And
if you step out of the line as an owner,
you see how the Cleveland Brown's owner like, hey man,
that wasn't me, you know, because they they those guys
penalize each other in those rooms when they're having a
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big meeting.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So you know, that's what it is. And I think
everybody knows.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
That, some more than others, because you know, when you're
in the league and you're dealing with it, you understand
what it is and there's really nothing you can do
about it except for step away. But how many people
going to turn down that money?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Man? You know, it's it's I don't think it's selling
your soul.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
You're making you're making a living for your family, and
it's a great opportunity to be one of the few,
you know, elite players in the world. But that's what
you deal with, you know. And I don't think it's
just in the NFL. I think it's you know, professional
sports across the board. You know, the owners run it.
I think the NBA gives a little bit more leeway,
but still if you step out of line, they'll let
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you know, Hey, this is what it is. As most says,
protect the brand. Nobody's bigger than the brand. Nobody's bigger
than the brand. And I think the NFL is is
probably one of the most powerful organizations out there.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So, oh, how you feel about it? Oh? The question?
What was the question to get money Moe? Was what?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
How do you feel like do you feel the owners
respect the players in their business relationship?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Got you?
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I feel like I feel like the the owners run this,
run that ship as a business man, and I feel
like they feel like if I could get cheaper. Uh.
If I can get cheaper workers, that might not be
you know, money, Moe might be the best. But for
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every money, Moe or Michael Parsons, for every for every
Andre what's his name?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Uh? What was his name? Where they used to play
with the Calvin markets. Everything market is.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Where there's a market, there's a Michael Parsons. It's always
gonna be pushed from the bottom. And I feel like
Jared Jones, I'm not making no excuse for my I
feel like he like, well, shit, we've been burned on
a couple of these.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Last ones man, and he like shit.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Looking at it as a business wise, we get this
man sixty million dollars a sign.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I mean, who knows what might happen.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
But overall, I feel like the owners is, you know,
they always going to It's been like that forever. Especially
you know you brought up to Cincinnati Bengals. Cincinnati ain't
never paid anybody. I mean, think about it. Farston Palmer
had to sit out t Kiyo's fighters. He had to
go to he left Buffalo or he started in Buffalo.
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He started since he did have to go to Buffalo
and get his money, you know, didn't finish his career.
I think in the A if I'm not mistaken, you know,
Corey Dillon, he had to leave Cincinnati. He was one
of the top three Russians in the National Football League.
His numbers was up there with everybody, and he was
no disrespect to the offensive arm of the Cincinnati but
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he running by them. Yeah, and he's still in the
top five. And y'all, y'all two and fourteen. You know
what I mean, you can't name some of the players
that was playing with Corey Dillon back in the when
they was playing, right, That's my point. So you know,
Cincinnati always been cheap like that. They don't you know,
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they gonna do the bare minim. But you know, I
mean a lot of people talking about, well Martin Lewis
was there for twenty some years, well fifteen years or
whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, Martin Lewis also wasn't a top ten played.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
The highest paid coaches, right, Yeah, he was right in
that right in that he was getting some good money,
But he wasn't never top five, top ten, nah, because
if it was, they were the Choppins ass a long
time ago. Right, So I personally feel like I'm not
for real, I personally feel like it comes with the
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bit business. Is it fair? No, But I don't think
it's fair for somebody at McDonald's and the owner to
treat the one of the other people, the French fry
guy bet worse than the person that's.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
On the cash rep.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I don't think it's I think it's I think it's
obviously because of the sport and because of the people
being in the limelight and in the media and things
like that. It's it gets trust way way more publicity
and more things like that, or whatever the case. But
this shit happens in all different type of professions, you know,
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and it's it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's why you want to get with a good organization.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
A lot of people don't understand, like you want to
get with a good organization that's going to take care
of you. I mean, I mean, look at Philadelphia. Say
Quarantine signed a new contract last year. They didn't have
to redo his deal.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I don't care how.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Much he outplayed his deal. So what you signed the
contract last year? Do I did they have to did
they have to do they have to band? Okay, That's
what I'm saying. Sometimes I don't think it's all the owners.
I think it's some of the owners, right, I think
it's some of the owners. Then we go to situations
where some of these owners pay these players because they
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need to fill out, to fill out the stands. A
lot of me and me and the O g Fredo
got in got into it on this show. Why would
you pay? Why would you pay? Uh? The boy down in?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Uh? Trevor Lawrence? Yeah? And Jack will Well?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Who else was that?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Who else was you gonna pay? Who else was the
people gonna come? See? That's right. I gotta I gotta put.
I gotta put somebody, you know, just like I got
to book a band, right, I gotta book some talent
for for for my for my nightclub, or somebody will
come into the club and and and and get some
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of this liquors, some of these hot dogs, these chicken strips. Well,
you know what I'm saying, Beer's beer's twelve dollars, right.
So I think it's an overall I look at it
just as an overall business. Is it is it messed up? On?
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Is it gonna change?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's not. You know a little bit. What we I
think they should change up to how the pies split up?
You know, like we talked about.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
And I think it will be a little bit better,
but it's it's overall, it's a messed up system.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But that's what you sign up for, you know what
I mean. That's just like I tell people all time.
People say, well, football is violent, and you know it's
it's a fit, you know. I said, well, that's why
they had basketball sign up, That's why they had soccer,
you know. Band Nobody told these kids or people to
go sign up for football.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
It's a contact sport, right And it's also they come
to the business wise.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
This is the business. So let me get my business
in order and things like that.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
And you gotta be willing sometimes moneymore to do what
Michael Parson is doing. Man, just well trade me or
I got an injury, I'm gonna be in camp so
I don't get fined my back hurn. Now we'll figure
it out, even figure it out, and then I don't
have to play. I think you only got to play
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eight games or six games, or to be eight or
something whatever it was for him to have a credited season.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Right right.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, So but I'm older, everything is spot on and
I'm gonna just add to it like this coach as well.
When we sign these collective bargaining agreements, you now you're
in ben with the owners, right, we know they don't
really respect your talents. No owner and employee, there's there's
a certain amount of level of disrespect, whether it's intentional unintentioned.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Right, how own the company you work for?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Me? Right?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Just align When you sign these CBA agreements, you put
that in there. So not only do Michael Parson have
to play out this rookie deal with a fifth year
option that you negotiated, they own your rights for another
two years because they can franchise tack you. They can
put a restricted free agent tender on you, they can
put a second round tendo on you. These are things
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that I think sometimes haven't been a part of a
somewhat of a bootleg player association that everybody got to
come to the table and be on one accord and
don't get greedy because you screw over not only the
highest paid man, but the lowest man when you're doing
these things. So that's what's putting Jerry Jones and even
the Bengals owners in a predicament because if you think
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about it, Jerry Jones owned the Cowboys before that was
a salary cap. So he used to doing business under
a certain pretension. I should even evolved. He should have,
but he a billionaire. How many in them maxuly evolved?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You either do it my way or it's the hotway.
I think that's what makes it messy.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
The players have to stop being a greedy take a
step back, you know, save your money. I know that's
harder to say, easier said than done. When you when
you gotta feed your family, but if you know it's coming,
be prepared. The w n b A is in the
same stance. They don't need to take no sucker deal
just to get some money right now, because you shorten
the next generation of ballers. That's why it looks bad
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in the NFL. So do I reprieve Jerry.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But at the same time, like oh Dog said, I
can't blame them either because these are the rules that
are in place. So that was my rant on that
feelers coach. What you got with you, what's your topic,
what you want, what you want to chop it up about.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I think it's a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
But I think the biggest thing for me is I
put in the chat group was this what did your
guys stance on this whole stephen A. Smith Michelle Obama
thing with if you guys paid any attention to it,
where Michelle Obama basically says steven A. Smith is like
the Atlanta Housewives's he's being allowed, he's messy, you know,
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and he's doing more entertainment than reporting. And then Stevin
A went back at her and said, well, I don't
appreciate you saying that about me, and then he jumped
right into the political loop about what Obama did and
all this, and I'm like, bruh, what are you? Are
you trying to be a politician or you trying to
be a sportscaster?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
And I ain't you know, and ain't I don't have
no no.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
You know, steven A has hustled, he's he's built his empire.
But I just think that the whole sports casting has
become more entertainment than informative, and uh, you know, that's
that's just And so for me, I don't know if
he's politic and for political for political stance, or if
he's serious. I don't take him serious anymore. You know,
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he's always out there in the middle or something. So
if you got. What do you guys think about it?
If anything at all?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think he.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I think he has the number one show sports show
for the last fit for the last ten years.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, I think he.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I think he got an NBA Players Association contract with ESPN, right.
I think he wanted to high So I'm not I
don't agree with how he went about it, but I
mean it's obviously whatever he's doing is working for him.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Would I do that but something? Absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
But as far as the going at Michelle Obama is
like or you know, going back and forth with her,
I think he should use one of the things that
he says all the time when people go at him
or say things to him. I'm pretty sure he can
get that Michelle Obama's number. Why not give her a
call instead of going at another African American, black, beautiful
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woman regardless if you disagree with her. You can disagree
with her, you know off, you know, and be like, hey, look,
you don't come in me, you know, such as a
judge or whatever, you know what I mean. But to
go back and forth and then talk about the politics thing,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I stay away from politics. I don't really get involved
in that. Type stuff, So I just think I would
just say I think it's unfortunate one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Although I agree with you that last statement was spot
on as well as the rest of the points that
you articulated. It's unfortunately whenever we have two African Americans
that are both recognizable figures, one being the first lady,
the other being a very successful sportscaster, I think two
things can be true. Right, the politics acide, I ain't
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even getting into that. But as far as ESPN being
more of an entertainment business, it is. I'm an eighties baby,
so I grew up in ESPN just loose highlights all
day long. That's all they did toil the next live event, right,
no first take what, none of this craziness.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But then at the same time, we also didn't have
the Internet. We also didn't have blogs. Like I don't
even have to watch ESPN. I could go look at
the Bleacher Report, or I can go follow Matt Barnes
and Steven Jackson or somebody else if.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I want to get a sports tape.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
So that's what ESPN has to compete with because they
still are in business with Disney to get make dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So yeah, is it a little corny sometime in my opinion, Yeah,
that's why I don't watch it. But there are other
people that do. That's what they enjoy it. If I
wanted to watch a soap opera watching Young and the Wrestlers,
I don't need to watch grown men arguing all day.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It's just me right, more money. Not to cut you off,
but Steven a is on Young in the Wrestlers as well.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
My point I can't right, you know that what I'm saying,
he on you know, yeah, he on the shows.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
He on, like you said, soap o shows too. He's
transcended sports.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
And good on him because he didn't he didn't he
didn't do He did it his.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Way right, whatever way that is. I might not agree
with it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It's not in my character to do some of those things,
but that's what he did, right, So I can't be
mad at him. But at the same time, I think
people have to stop, you know, taking shots at how
ESPN does their programming. It works, and they gotta eat
over there and that's that's how they have to eat
man's And it's my last point. I ain't gonna be labor,
but it's like right now, right, if I'm talking to
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one of my kids, that my five year old, I
gotta say what I need to say in three seconds
because that's all I got And that's the attention span
of most viewers these days. You got three to five
seconds or they moving on.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
They're gonna find what they want for sure, right right, right?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, my.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Topic, my topic is what do you guys think about
the Detroit it's on football.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
What do you guys think about the Detroit.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Lions with them losing their officive coordinator as well as
the decordinator. Do you feel like they're going to be
able to bounce back and have the great succession get
back to the NFC champ Well, it didn't make to
the MC championship game, but do you think they will
be able to get back and have a strong season
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like they did last year?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
In my opinion, I'm gonna say no, and I say
it has less to do with them losing that offensive
coordinator defensive coordinator as it does with the attrition of sports. Right, So,
if you're number one in your division, the way that
the NFL is set up is a parody league.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
The bottom team is getting better. That bottom team is
the Chicago Bears. You can't just walk on your schedule
and pencil in two wins against the Chicago Bears. They're
very talented team. They could catch you. The Green Bay
Packers are very talented team in that division. The Vikings
are a very talented team in that division. So in conjunction,
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like you pointed out, Old Dog were losing that offense
coordinator defense coordinator, their division has gotten that much better
in the process. Right, If JJ McCarthy plays anything like
competent football.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
The Vikings will be right in that conversation.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
So I believe that the Detroit Lions will take a
step back because they lost their offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator,
but also because the division got better.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Gotcha right, what's the what's the what's the head coach's name?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Dan Campbell?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Dan Campbell? Okay, I don't know. I was gonna say
Dan Quinnon. I know there wasn't, but so don't. I
don't think it's so much of them losing their offensive
coordinator as it does for their defensive coordinator, because last year,
if I'm not mistaken, their their defense got decimated with injuries, correct,
and they were still they.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Were still all too talented.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
They were still competing and still killing people. And I
think with Dan Campbell, he was still even though they
had Johnson, who was the creative mind behind what I
call him the mastermind, but all the trick plays, Dan
Campbell was still the offensive courd like they were running
his plays. He just had to spin off Johnson. So
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I think they still have the base, they still have
all the talent. I don't think they lost anybody on offense,
and I think they're going to have a healthy None
of their key players I'll say that none of their keeps,
so most of their offenses coming back. Very talented offensive
group of guys can score in multiple ways, can beat
you multiple ways.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
And I think defensively, I think Hutchinson is coming back.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
So I think if they get a if they can
feel the healthy defense and and the coordinator is half
as competent as the defensive coordinator was last year, I
think again they may take a step back.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
But I think there's still.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
A very dangerous team in a highly competitive division. Like
I said, everybody's getting better, but I don't. I don't
think the loss of the coordinators are really gonna be
the the problem. I think it's just making sure that
they can get their defense back up and running because
them casts was dangerous on the offensive side of ball.
They just couldn't they couldn't outscore enough people because the
defense couldn't stop nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So that's that's where I think. That's where I think
they are.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Matter of fact, I'm I'm gonna go out on a limb, right,
I'm gonna because I've been watching a lot of the
Commander's games, right when Senora screenshot watching them James Daniel plays,
and I went back and I looked at some of
the Kyler Murray plays and when the offensive coordinator was
in Arizona, and then you look at the second half
of the Commanders. I'm telling you right now, I don't
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think the Commander is gonna make the playoffs. And I
don't think the Lion's gonna make the playoffs. And I'll
tell you why.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
A lot of the things that their offensive coordinator does
is predicated. It's smoking mirrors, right, it's not. They don't
have a real true identity. It's not like, Okay, we're
gonna run this power or we're a stretched team, or
we run a lot of slants.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So goals.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We run a lot of quick routes.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
No, a lot of that is based on trickery and
that quarterback bringing keys right. So defense is being a
lot like undisciplined in their key recognition. So I'm supposed
to take a dive, I take the pitch and the
quarterback runs for ten yards. Well, once it's on tape
and you start reading those keys, that ten yard run
now is getting your quarterback hit right, and repetition to
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getting hit. He not gonna get hurt, but he gonna
get shy, and the offense coordinator gonna stop calling some
of those plays. So I don't believe they'll be able
to full defenses this year. That's one and then two
with Terry McLaurin being out. The wide receiver quarterback connection
is one of those things that has to be repetitious.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I saw it last year with Dallas and.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
CD Whenever those quarterbacks and the wide receivers missed key time,
which is the training camp. When you're going live in
these scrimmages, it messes up your rhythm. It takes three
to four games to get it back. In Detroit, Jared
Golf is Jared Goff. We can say that whoever plays
they was running. It was the offensive coordinator in that
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quarterback coach that was keeping them saying, and they lost,
can't win it Wiz Hunt. Right now, I think that
was a quarterbacks coach. I'm not sold on Jared Goff,
so he has to run a certain type of system
to be successful. He was successful on the Sean McVay,
and he was successful on the Ben Johnson.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
The two stops in between, then he looked pedestrian. So
that's just that's my prediction on Fellas. And I'm still
looking at a couple of Lions games to see if
I'm right, but I'm going on a limb right now.
I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
And that and I think and I think Dan Campbell
also has to show that he can stay out of
his own way when it comes.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
To going for it, right. I mean.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Like sometimes you gotta be like, Okay, yeah, you know,
I'll switch it up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
But uh, that's an interesting take money.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
And then to go back to the Terry McLain situation,
you think Terry.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Mccloin gonna get some not to not to jump over
the subject.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Oh but what uh, what do y'all think with the
ter mclauin situation, when it when you.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Since you brought that up, that's tough, is it?
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Are they gonna you think they're gonna get it done
or they're gonna try to wait it out.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's different from Michael Parsons in the fact that Michael
Parsons what twenty six years old?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Right, yep.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Terry McLain's thirty.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
His timeline doesn't exactly match Jaden Daniels in that sense.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And I don't know the Washington Commanders ownership.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I know Jerry Jones, Jerry gonna wolf all that he's
gonna pay Michael.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
They might take a stance and say, you know what,
we rather collect assets for Terry mccorn. We got Devo,
and they might not pay him. I honestly don't know
with Washington. If I had to, what would I do?
I'll pay him well if what makes economical sense, it
makes sense to trade him.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
To be honest with you, Oh do you think do
you think he can do you think he could be
successful anywhere else?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh? Arry, Yeah, he was successful in Washington.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
No, that's what Yeah, I just want to hear.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You, Jaydon Dan just got here this year.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I mean last year, Yeah, thousand yards, last four year,
last four season, he a thousand yards.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Do you know whose quarterback was two years ago?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Do you stay from Carolina?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Do you know whose quarterback was before that?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Nope.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So that's that's my answer to that. Yes, I think
he can be successful. I think he can be successful anywhere.
I think he just I just think he was caught
up in Well, that's one of the things what happens
when you come out of school at a at a
when you're a little bit older, you gotta People don't
realize he came out of Ohio State at twenty four
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years old.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
He did all four years at Ohio State. You know
what I mean, he was old. He was an older cat.
So you know, whether he went to a prep school,
red shirt and then went to for school four years whatever,
he twenty three, twenty four years old. So then when
he got his new deal, but then he did, he
outplayed it, right, So it's like, damn, these guys don't
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have half the numbers I have.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
DK Metcalf just got this and he.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Didn't do half of what I did, and I was
playing with way worse ported you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I won't say that, but you know, no.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Name guys Nay.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
So I think that's the reason why he like, well,
ship man, let me get one more. Let me just
get some more guaranteed money, because I know they're gonna
and then after that I'm gonna be on one year deals,
you know, or too.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
So I think he's he has a right to because
when you you when you have the cards, I mean,
it's just like, I don't play poker like that, but
I can only imagine when.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
You got that good hand and you got all the cards, man,
you got to stand firm and and I think that's
that's what he's doing right now. And that's what it's,
you know, because this is it for him. It is
no he won't get another big payday, right. So yeah,
so he's he's like, well, shit, I thought the last one,
but ship Jaden Dames came. I went crazy like no, no, no,
(32:54):
I'm I'm I should easily be up getting paid top
ten wide receiver money. And and if I was Washington,
I would me personally, I would pay them because it
was make your quarterback feel more comfortable, and that's that's
who your franchise is I don't care. I don't care
if they brought in my receiver, Chase, I don't care
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if they brought in whoever. Davante asked, I don't care
what receiver you brought in. They still like you said money, know,
they gotta get that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
They got to get that.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Man and you know, everything together, And why would you
mess that up right now, right now? Why you just
had the best year you've had and we I don't know,
in eighty something, right, why wouldn't you Why wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
You just build any And then I would just tell Terry, look,
I'm not giving you no long term deal. I'll give
you a three year deal. I'll give you a three
year deal, and I give you some guaranteed money. But
I'm gonna let you know now, I probably am gonna
get rid of you after two up two years. So
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you want to do a two.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Years, you want to do a three year deal, right,
We'll do a three year deal, give you guaranteed money
for you know whatever, forty million, I don't know, forty
five I don't know, you know, pay him to whatever
to going rate is in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Because I think he was getting twenty.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
But he like thirty five thirty seven so much.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, I'll give him something.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I'll tell you, you know, okay, three years, sixty million
or whatever, you know, a sixty five or set even seventy.
And then I'll just say, okay, I'll give you guaranteed
thirty thirty five. Yeah, and I keep him for two
years and that that, you know, whatever I mean, then
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get rid of him. So I don't know. I just
if I was Washington, I would try to hurry up.
And if not, if you're not gonna, if you don't
see it in your plans, then trade them.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Here's some people, let him go. Trade him. Now? Why
are you?
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Why are you messing up? Why are you having negative
energy around the team that just went to the damn
NFC Championship game and you just got approved for a
billion dollars brand new, billion dollar stadium, bringing it back
to Washington, d C. Right where you had the old stadium?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Got base all excited and the biggest thing that's been missed.
I don't think they've said much about it. He hasn't said,
but that's that's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yes. He has said no, yes, he.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Has said something, No, I'm talking about Oh, I thought
you were talking about Terry mcclo Terry.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Saying Jaden Daniels, it has to be messing with who's
who's like who he got to throw to and and
a lot of his players predicated off of what action
term mccorn creates on the back top end of that defense.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
So it's terrible, terrible business, gentlemen, terrible business.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
I'm at the end of the day, we can say
the slave mentality whatever I get it.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'm I'm a business. I think like business. They're all commodities.
At the end of the day, you call it what
it is. Right, if you have a if you have
a chess piece like Terry McLaurin, just like Seattle deal
with DK metcalf, you sit down, you have a conversation,
like oh said, if the dollars ain't making sense, you.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Get rid of them during the draft.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
One thing that's sure, an old doll coach, y'all can
attest to this. Y'all been in mini camps, right, whether
it's a seven on seven, whether it's a were getting
we're getting together and were just running together. Everybody knows
everybody in the in the draft class that just happened
in the next draft class. So all these wide receivers
that was in this draft class that just passed, they
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know Jayden Dams. They probably got relationships. They probably done
chopped it up together. So you could have you could
have traded Terry McLaurin and drafted one of those young fellas,
whether it's a Matthew Golden, a Mecca a Booker, Tech McMillan,
because you think Carolina.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Will won't want a little bit of Terry mccaorn.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
You could have moved up in the draft, got one
of them young fellas, impaired him with Jay Names. Now
you master the wide receiver that's on his timeline and
you maximize that asset.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
That's just bad business for Washington.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
This is how franchises mess it up when you don't
maximize your assets.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
And that's astonishing because Washington is coming off of being
known for doing bad business.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
So the fallow suit.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Like O said, with all the excitement behind it, with
all the success you had to start off this season
like that, it's crazy. I mean, you got fans crying
for tern Man like Terry is a fan favorite around here.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah, I see if he was I see if he
was an asshole like he could have been some years
when even last year when he wasn't getting the ball,
not even getting looks, nothing in it, uh, not getting
looks things like that, like he could have he could
have really went, you know, he could have went crazy, like, man,
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it should never be a game where it's the fourth
quarter and I'm just now getting one passed on my way.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Are y'all crazy?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
You know?
Speaker 5 (38:12):
So the fact that he didn't go to the media,
and that's why, that's that's why when you see him
go to the media, that's why I said, coach, nah,
I thought you were talking about Terry when he went
to the media and.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
He really expressed how he felt.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
He's like, damn, I've done everything right. Ye I've done
everything right. If I wasn't, if I wasn't playing good,
you guys wouldn't have any problem cutting me and releasing me.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
So so right now I'm not Yeah now, I don't
know what he asking for. You know, what he asking
for is crazy. I'll just be like, bro, look this
is what I can give you. I'm a I'm a
like like I said the Philadelphia Eagles, they rewarded say
kwam for the year that he had, right what you
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call him rewarded Baltimore rewarded who running back?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Then they give him a new deal, you know what
I'm saying. So when people gonna give you a new
DA like you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
But for Washington to do that with Cherry's like, that's
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So it is what it is. Yeah, I mean, it
is what it is, man. I mean, it don't matter.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
You can change the franchise, but sometimes you can't change
I mean the owners, but you can't change the mentality.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It seemed like that same mentality.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And sometimes and know if no offense to Magic Johnson,
but if you bringing in an ownership group or some mentors,
yeah he can help you on the money side.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
But he ain't old though he been.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
In that locker room all the dynamics of what he
takes to build a foundation in football.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, sometimes people sometimes people get caught.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Up and looking at the numbers and don't realize and
ship that it's shipped that people do off the books
and make those numbers look the way.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
That they do.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Yep, my definite real quick on.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
You said, you said something to me the other day
that made me think on that point, I had to
think about Michael Parson's actions too.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Right, we don't talk about that. What's going what leads
you up to getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars?
It's not just between the lines, it's off the field
as well. Right, we got a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You said it when you first came on the show,
and it I was like, man, what old are all
talking about? I had to think about it. If we
got a playoff game going on? What the hell am
I doing on the podcast? You got all off season
on this podcast? You say so, then you're coming.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
To me like, now you want me to pay you
a quarter of a billion dollars to be the pay
of my franchise, and you.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
And your podcast of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Shot shout out, shout out to gt what's up? What's up?
Gu What he said.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Was right, pay Cherry three years eighty five No, not
eighty five, eighty five million, and then guarantee him about
sixty eight. Okay, I'm cool, that's that's about thirty. You know,
give him thirty, give him sixty or fifty five. You know,
that's what I'm saying. Give him, just give him some
more guaranteed money. That's all you want. And some guaranteed money.
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You don't have no more guaranteed money left on his deal.
That's why you that's why players get you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Just give him some more guaranteed money.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
And in the background, yeah, make it look good.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Give him some stupid give him some dumb and centers.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
If you play, if you start every game, you get
an extra five mili you.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Know, do stupid stuff like that. If he lead the
team and receiving yards, that's an extra two and a half.
You know what I'm saying, Like stuff that he know
he gonna that.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
We know he's Yeah, yeah, that won't hit your cap
so much because it's incentives and things.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Like that, you know what I mean. But you know,
like like.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
I said, they sometimes but now if I'm from chariots,
like I don't know if I really even want to go.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
First of all, y'all Washington, y'all facilities suck. Y'all gott
y'all got some of the worst facilities in the National
Football League.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Y'all finish in the top in the worst two Yeah,
y'all just now, y'all got a bubble, But y'all ain't
even got an indoor facility, y'all, y'all cafeteria, it was
in the gym, y'all just redid yall cafeteria. So Washington,
you gotta relax a little bit too, now, y'all for
y'all organization. Yeah, y'all changing, and y'all about to build
this brand new stadium and beautiful stadium.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
But where they practice every day is straight trash.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
And did y'all know Washington Commanders was voted the worst
football field International Football League.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah, the city and then found down last year.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah they got they got Sure's leagueing and stuff.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
The practice facility damn better than the field. The freaking
stated the ball knighter than that ship.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
The bro It had a list of people that done
lost their careers in the Washington stadium, R three Adrian Peterson.
The list go on and on and on, the players
and until the A c L s and in the
Commander Slash Redskins state.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
That's just crazy, right, what what what what girl saying
is is dude, you talking about he looking at a
are you and DK contracts you?
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
But where they where Washington really.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Messed up was they should have fucking traded for are
you last year, two years ago and got so that
way Jaden could they had his maceiver that he had
in calls, and now you would have paid him, you
know what I'm saying. Now you already had Terry on
the joint. You can let Terry go now, you now
when you trade Terry, if he's saying he wants, go ahead,
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go about your business because we already got somebody that's
rocking with him, that's already been you know what.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so but now they put
themself behind the eight ball.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
But anyway, I ain't about to keep talking about no
Washington Redskins, no Washington.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
What y'all got? What we got? What's that? Oh? The fight?
What we think about the fight coming up? Man? But
Croft and and uh Canelo.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
It's uh well, we got a month about a month
and a half away.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
It's September, the September the thirteen twelve.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
Got just less than a month, Yeah, just lasted what what?
What what we're thinking? What you guys thinking?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I'm I like, I like Budd.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
I mean, I think this is a fight that is
gonna you know, I think he now Panelo is a
lot bigger guy.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Paul but.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
You know, I like the fact that he is going
at least going to try to fight him, and you
know what I'm saying, and trying to get, you know,
trying to get that big fight under this belt. I
think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be dope.
I think it's gonna be dope.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I like it from the standpoint of course, I'm a
Budd Crawford guy. He could be fighting Muhammed and Aliam
rocking with Bud Crawford.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I'm biased. I'm just keeping real.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I grew up like in the sport of boxing. Not literally,
I don't know Bud Crawford, but I grew up with him.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
That's that's my guy, right, So I don't I'm not
even gonna comment on who's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'm gonna look at the larger picture, right. I think
this is great for the sport of Boston. You got
two fighters that are pretty much in their prime. Window
Canelo a little bit, a little bit maybe on the outside.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Just a little bit, but not not crazy.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
This is what we need in boxing, right, you need
those mega fights a whole Chrissa Shields and Alicia get
it together and they fight. I want all the mega
fighters to fight man as a as an eighties baby.
That's what I grew up watching. Y'all got older than me,
That's what that's all y'all knew like we in this
ducking era. So I'm just good for what it's gonna
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do for the sport of Boxton.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
I agree, Man and I and again the thing that
I think is a mist normal and Mo, you can
you can correct them wrong? Is I think old said
it like a lot of people assume that Canelo is bigger.
I think Canelo fights at the heavier weight, but Bud
walks around it that way. So when they when they
standing there right in front of each other, it ain't
no size difference. And I think may I think Crawford
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has not the same skill set. It's madeweather, but but
Buck can fight man. Bud is a fighter, you know,
like he ain't just no slugger, but he can get
in there and knock you out. But then he can
also he's technical as all get out. So I think
even though Canelo has a good tin, I think Canelo
is strong. I think when it comes to size and power,
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I think Bud is a perfect matchup for him and
he's crafty enough to trap Canelo a little bit. Because Canelo,
he you know, he's gotten better since he's fought in Mayweather.
But Mayweather gave the blueprint to how to beat him. Man,
You just you just put him at angles and force
them for some because he goes, he gonna try to
knock out, and when he go to knockyout he opens
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himself up too much for too many calendars and too
many attacks on his body.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Man. So I think it's great for boxing. I think
it's great for boxing.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
I'll tell you what, I'm damned sure gonna If I
don't go, I'm damned sure gonna purchase it.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Tell you that.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
So I don't mind purchasing a fight like that, seeing
that man, seeing that man fight.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
For sure, both of them, both of them, there's one
thing I know about both of them. They gonna fight.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Yeah, they're gonna, They're gonna, they're gonna box and they're
gonna fight.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
So absolutely, I mean, it's what It's what the sports need, man,
Because like I watched that Carrissa Shields fight. I think
it was two weeks ago now, Man, she put it
on old girl. I'm talking about it. It was a
masterclass in boxing. Nobody knew about it, what I'm saying, Yeah,
I know, I know nobody. You know, we gotta do
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better at her undercard. I forgot the fighters, ain't that
forgive me. But they were just as entertaining, the more
entertaining because Carrista Shills really did body that girl. But
at the end of the day, this, this, this will
put a lot of these boxes on the on the mainstream.
I hope the undercard is right. I don't know what
it is. I gotta look at it, but we need more.
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Fight boxing is fundamental in every hood in America. You
need to have it. It's not that expensive to get
into some of those gyms, right, I'm pretty sure we
all did it as you.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
It needs to come back in America.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
It's another avenue for African Americans to get up out
of the hood.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
So it needs to get back to what it used
to be.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Hey, well, you know what's crazy.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
Before the fight they talking about Clarician Shills fighting Leila
Ali more than a damn fight that.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Was coming up.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
They was like, you said, they won't even talking and
if they did bring it up, it was dismissal. Well,
we know Claric are gonna go in and handle business.
What we're thinking about you getting in the ring with
Laila Lee and the fifteen million dollars and how big
Leayla Lei is and when she come out of retirement,
and you know, like I said, they don't they don't
do a great job of promoting it. But I think
(49:49):
I don't think there's really nobody out there for Claricia Shills.
The fight that the two fighters that Jake Paul had
on his fight, those are the two ladies that she
said that, you know, once she gets through this one,
I think she talking about having a baby or something
and then she's like, you know, if one of those
two ladies want to step up and fight her. You know,
I think she said the one that lost the fight
(50:10):
is a little bit more technically sound, but the one
that won, you know, of course, she gotta give honor
to her because she wanted and she's the you know,
defending title holder.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
But I don't think there's nobody out there for man.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
So it's hard because everybody dismisses anybody that she goes against,
and even they liked that fight. But I think she's
what three class three weights above Alsa Bumgarden and.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Her we didn't even hear nothing about her fight. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
It was a good fight too. I think it was
the undercard on one of them.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
It was the undercard on that on that Jake Paul
and she had just signed with him as a partner
and they didn't even promote her ship, which was crazy.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
I think they can meet in the middle with those
weight classes, because I think.
Speaker 6 (50:52):
She said she said she would come down to fifty four,
but she ain't going there no farther than that.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
She said, Alyssa gotta come up.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
I think Alissa could.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
She could definitely come up, especially you know, I see
ages and that would be an eleble fight.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
That would be a mega fight, that would be on.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Par with the men, just because they are in the
class of of women's boxing. But on that yeah, she
should fight realmy Mom on paper through I mean based
off what I see with this last fight.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
I ain't never seen real Mom fight.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
But man, she don't want no parts of Carrisa Shields
Street fight in there. It don't map Carrisa Shields is uh?
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Is she about that?
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Because I've seen her switch up two to three styles
in that fight.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
She went from a brawler to a defender.
Speaker 5 (51:35):
It was it was it was nice man, Like I said,
if anybody get a chance, it's free.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Now you go on YouTube and watch it.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
But you got some talking about and that's what she
was talking about. She was saying that they got on
her for knocking people out. Then they said she didn't
have no skills. So she said, now when she bought,
she has to show a little bit of both because
they they dinger for doing one or more of the other.
So she said, I gotta show I got some power
and I gotta show I got some skill. So she said,
I'm just out there putting on the show. But back
(52:02):
to that Remy mast They hey, man, Remy like, oh
said Remy from the streets, Clarisia from the streets. But
I tell you what, hey, Clarissa love herself. So popoop
what's his name? Po poos? When she was speaking about
that dude, man, she's then crying about that dude.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Man.
Speaker 6 (52:20):
That dude doesn't changed her life. Man, So I don't
think Mama wanted to deal with that. And now you
lost that one.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Let him go.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
At the end of the day, any man that's willing
to hold a woman down is out there, but that
long as long as he helped the man that respecting him,
salute him. And if he's still walking in that light,
she got a real one. Remy mar fumbled the bag
with poos.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Hey what y'all?
Speaker 5 (52:47):
Hey, not switching up topics a little bit. We also
are less less than a month away from the kickoff
of college football.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
Mm hmmm mmmm excited man August thirty first, Like, we
talked about these games, man, we we we were three
weeks away. Mm hmmm, Man, I can't wait.
Speaker 6 (53:15):
So oh so oh, Money wasn't on the last on
the last show, So can we get your your thoughts
money on?
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Oh yeah, schedule on the week one schedule on that
you got you? Can you look up to the other game? Well, Money,
can you look the games up for the thirty first?
Speaker 6 (53:32):
Let me look it up really quick? And then it
just released. Week two gonna be a monster.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Of them games.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
Man, Well you know what.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Hell, while I'm looking at while I'm looking it up,
I'm gonna get you all my opinion on that while
I'm looking up Week one, right, I think the college
football playoffs allows us to get games like this because
in the past they didn't always schedule these powerhouses was
running from each other like boxing.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
The way that is out now I love it. Yeah,
let's see.
Speaker 6 (54:07):
And I think and I think old touchdown the last
week they got to schedule it that way more because
the schedule come back to hauntum at the end of
everybody crying like yo, I played such and such. No,
you your strength of your strength of schedule was a two.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
So so I guess.
Speaker 5 (54:23):
So the games we talked about was the first one
was Ohio State obviously in Texas. Yeah, give me Texas, okay,
you know, you know it's not it's not on the
neutral grounds at the Horseshoe.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
And who the quarterback for Oio State?
Speaker 4 (54:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Exactly, give me, give me.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
You know, I got you, so okay, then then you
got I think.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Then it was ls. The second game was U L
s U and Clampson l C.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
Yeah, I like.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
Clinton quarterback is a Heisman Trophy, uh, you know, contender
this year. So so so it's Clemson's club kneck.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
I'm talking about L s U. I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (55:17):
And L s Us what's his name, Housman or looseman
or something. He's one of them dudes. That's in the talks.
I don't know if he's up there, but they both
have Hosmond contenders.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
So I'm gonna go with k just because of number ten.
I think it's ten to either ten or one from Clemson.
The wide receiver. He should be a first round pick.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
I have to look up.
Speaker 5 (55:39):
And then we got and then we got uh, Ohio State,
I mean Florida State.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Alabama, Man, Floyd. Every year, I'm gonna be easy real
with y'all.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Every year I put money.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Down on Florida State, and I don't know, but for
the last two years, don't you know?
Speaker 1 (55:58):
I got my money two years?
Speaker 6 (56:00):
Go man, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
I don't need to come back and put the mute
button on himself. He set himself off of that and
then walked off.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
I'm a realistic person.
Speaker 5 (56:14):
He's got to tell him the games. I ain't gonna
not tell him the games. That's the game, man. I'm
going to Alabama.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Hey, unlet's Bobby Bell, Chris Week, Charlie Ward, the War
the wart.
Speaker 5 (56:33):
We do got a nice little transfer. They say you've
been throwing the ball around pretty good.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
But I don't know, man. We'll see and they say
that crap every year. And then you get DJ l
or whatever his name was, great crazy, then you got
then you.
Speaker 5 (56:50):
Got uh who else? Oh, Miami Notre Dame. That's the
late game, Miami Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Well that's gonna be that's that might be the game
of the night, man, because.
Speaker 6 (57:05):
So Miami got uh what's his name Carson back at
quarterback and they got a defense that that should be toubable.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
But know the day, bro he man?
Speaker 1 (57:20):
I mean, and where is it at?
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Though?
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Where is it at? I don't know. You have to
look on your h Let me look, let me look
it up.
Speaker 4 (57:27):
Let me look it up.
Speaker 5 (57:28):
That's a good question. I'm going with the home team
on that one. Whoever at home plus cocaine calp for.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Uh Man. The way esp ain't do the schedule, it's crazy. Yeah,
it's somewhat I had.
Speaker 5 (57:54):
I had a little being in my phone. I don't
know if I sent it. I thought I had put
it in the group check.
Speaker 6 (57:59):
I think it should it should be in the group chat.
I think I put it in the group chat. Let
me let me see if I can pull it up.
Speaker 4 (58:06):
I don't know how to do it without If I
if I cut off. I'll be right back on.
Speaker 5 (58:12):
Okay, did y'all talking about the housing the trophy potentials?
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah, yeah, a little bit. This game.
Speaker 5 (58:27):
It's some it's it's some good games week won man.
I'm glad it's back to this. It was getting it
was getting bad for a little while. The conferences is
a little weird though. Oh this it looks like it's
in Miami. Looks like, yeah, I'm going Miami. You're gonna
(58:51):
go to Miami, just just because they and then they
got they got Baylor. I think the late game is better.
Oh no, No, Colorado played Georgia Tech. But that's when
I think they played Friday night. Look look out for.
Speaker 6 (59:07):
That's the uh, that's the seven o'clock game.
Speaker 4 (59:11):
Uh, that's the game before the youth we were talking about.
Speaker 5 (59:14):
The Yeah, and in Utah maybe is you and then
Utah played b y U or Utah played somebody at
the end of the night.
Speaker 4 (59:21):
U c l A U c l A Yeah, la man.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
I'm gonna put it. I'm gonna tell you all the
team to look out for this year.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
Maybe because I went to a couple of their practices
when I was home the South. The game cops man
Ladarius Sellers is a good quarterback and he got a
couple of wide receivers that if they just hang on
to the ball, South Carolina has a chance.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
They're not gonna win the National.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Championship, but they have a chance to scare some people
this year. They got a pretty good defense and they
definitely have a really good offense.
Speaker 4 (59:55):
The only reason I.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Got to see they practice because I done paid them
a lot of money this year.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
But that's when my son going at the n this
end of this month.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
So, hey, what you say about against Virginia Tech? Who
I like?
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
South?
Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
What you think about I know I'm jumping around, But
what you think about this backup quarterback? Y'all gotten guy? Man?
I think I think the young man has potential.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
He just needs to hone his skills, work on his craft,
learn to playbook, work on his accuracy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
But he got a cannon. I mean, he got a
thing that only God can give.
Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
You the ability to flick your wrists and throw the
ball eighty of you see that ball he threw today
or yesterday, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Yes, go.
Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Hey, I like it because if you all miss.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
That's the way you missed.
Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
You overthrow him I'd rather you overthrow him than underthrown.
Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
Yeah, And I like it because he gonna put he
gonna make that tightening shut up. Because what's his name,
Josh Milton or something Milton, Yeah, Joe Milton. The dude
can play, man, He can play, and he got some
wheels on him too.
Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
And it's just a coach.
Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
You remember, this remind you of Quincy Carter.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Quincy Carter.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Sometimes which is sometimes not.
Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
He said he won't he won't, he won't win them light,
but he could get you in trouble.
Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
But he get you in the hole.
Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
Boy, he'll throw you into some trouble. But he definitely
got an arm on him. And I just think it's
good competition for Dak Man. I think Dak gotta go
earn his money.
Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
I know, you know, I ain't gonna keep power on.
Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
The Cowboys, but I think they got too much talent
man to be underperforming. And it's hard to say they're underperforming.
It's just when they get into the games that matter,
they don't show up. And that's that's the part that's
disappointed as a fan.
Speaker 8 (01:01:53):
You know, it's put it all together, you know what
coach Like I said me and Old Dog was lesson
for me because he gave me a different respective on football.
Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
And one of the things Old Dog told me a
long time ago was about quarterback talent.
Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Because I was the same way, right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
So we put all these quarterbacks into the same category,
right they not when they come out in the draft.
Some are first rounders, some are second rounders, third and
so on. It ain't a whole lot of Tom Brady's
out there. These guys that go in the first round.
Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
God gave them a little bit more talent, actually a
lot more talent than the Dak Prescotts of the world.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
So this is my opinion based off you know, well
old Dog told me. I started thinking about it made sense.
I think Dak will maximize his God giving ability and
he don't have no more to give. It's up to
the Cowboys to raise their loveable play. But as far
as you know, Dallas not being as talented. It come
down to first round quarterbacks. And I thought about it.
(01:02:57):
Y'all tell them if I'm wrong. If you look at
the history of the game, how many teams win Super
Bowls without a first or second round quarterback?
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
And damn it don't happen.
Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Not not that men, you don't find too many because
even if they are first rounders and say they didn't
play well at that particular team that drafted them, you know,
and they go to another team. For instance, Trent Dilford,
he still was the first top you know, top two,
top five pick, you know, you know, even though we
(01:03:31):
did just get one last year, win one jail the
Hurst in the second round.
Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
You know. So it does happen. But like I tell
people all the time, like we can't.
Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
You can't, like people get drafted to these organizations and
you know, some people go to good teams.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Some people go to teams and they don't understand.
Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
You you, sometimes going a little later is putting you
in a better situation, right you know.
Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
So the only the only thing that I'll have pushed
back on that is is again I'm not I mean,
I watched that play in college, you know, so I
knew what they were getting when they got him, and
I thought he was perfect for the situation.
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Okay, but did you did you?
Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Okay, hold on and say you said you watched him
playing college? Which which college are you talking about? When
he was in Alabama? Are you talking about when he
was in Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Who Dak?
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Oh my bad?
Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
That okay, I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
I'm talking about that. I'm talking about that you watched.
Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
So you watched that. You watched Dak Prescott playing.
Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
In Mississippi State at Mississippi State played Alabama because he
ain't no, I'm like, what channel did he play?
Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Like I ain't.
Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
I wanted I want him play a couple of games.
I watched him play a couple of games because he
was he was out there. And then there was another
cat because Mississippi State had another dude before him that
got hurt before Dak came in that year. So Mississippi
State was one of those dudes that because it was
a white, big white running quarter they had before Dak
got there the year before that, before he went before
(01:05:05):
he went in to the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
So Mississippi State was one of them teams.
Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
That was you know, they were there was one of
them what do you call them night matchup nightmares against
certain teams, and so you know, you were catching him
on a couple of games here and there just because
they were feeling some talent. But watching Dak play not
only at Mississippi State but when he came in, like
I thought he earned the role. I just felt like
he fell off after he got the money. Now, I've
(01:05:30):
always been a Dak fan because I'm like he fits
and then they put the pieces around him right, and again,
I'm not expecting Dak to go out here. And I
felt like when they got Jason Garrett, I think that
hurt Dak a little bit, kind of like they were
saying with and I'm not gonna you know again because
we already talked about Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Jalen Hurts is a winner, and I feel Dak was
a winner.
Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Jason who is who did d Prescott get drafted to? Jayson? Uh? Jason?
Who's the court? Who's the head coach? He was?
Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Jason Garrett was the head coach. Jason.
Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
I don't understand what you mean by when they got
Jason Garrett. That's the ones who are not.
Speaker 6 (01:06:08):
Saying I'm saying, I said, Jason Garrett hurt that personal
because they kept putting them in past like when you
get a kid that again, you're trying to put them
in situations I believe in not everybody fits the system, right.
You gotta put the kids, you gotta put these guys
in situations that fit their skill set. Dak is not
a drop back and throw fifty fucking times a game.
(01:06:30):
You got a running back back there that you got
to handle the ball. And I felt like they just
leaned on Dak a little bit too much to throw
them in and out of situations trying to prove that
again kind of like I don't know, kind of like
the dude over in Baltimore, like sometimes you don't need
to prove these dudes that you can throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Just win the game. Make the play, like.
Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
Put it in a put it in a situation where
we have a winning play, where it fits the skill
set that is on the field. And I just felt
like they got past Happy Jason Garrett and they kept
put them in those situations where you got a running
back back. Then Ezekel Elliott. You know again, I don't
give a shit if you know you run it. And
I think me and Oh we talked about it. We
kind of went back at it when I was saying
when Baltimore was playing somebody, I'm like, man, you got
(01:07:14):
fucking you got your quarterback. They can fuck the running
air the ball you got Derek Henry, goddamn it, I'm
running the ball every time.
Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
And I'm gonna tell you my money until you fucking
stop me.
Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
I'm not gonna keep putting the passes in these receivers
hands because at the end of the day, the quarterback
got an answer for the ship that these dudes dropping
the ball.
Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
And again, I know you got to mix it up, but.
Speaker 6 (01:07:33):
If I got a thousand yard rusher, I got two
of them back there with goddamn it, you can't stop
both of us. And so for me with Ezekiel Elliott
and and and uh.
Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
That, I just felt like they put him in bad situation.
Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
So am I expecting him to do anything outside of
the norm? No, but goddamn it, show up and you know,
And I don't know if I'm wrong for saying I
know he's had some injuries. I know he's not the
same guy that he was before that the ankle injury
and whatever else he had. I just feel like, I
don't know. Well, I'll say this this year is going
(01:08:07):
to show a lot about him and the Cowboys all together,
because again you say, Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Dak is not the number one.
Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
He's not a number one guy, So why the hell
Jerry Jones didn't go out and at least talked to
Derrick Henry. That's one of the best running backs that
was out there. He was in Texas. I know y'all
can't answer that, but to me, that's just dumb shit. Right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
But to answer that question, we go back to dollars
and cents.
Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Right, If you look at I don't know the dynamics
of the coaching and who because it's politics. Right, If
you look at it, if Rigodald would a guy the
carries that he needed to get because you gotta think
Jerry at every practice he see who running the ball, Right,
Rico Dallad's production wasn't that far off of Derrick Henry
(01:08:51):
for the moneyed Right, If Dear'reck getting ten Ricodald getting
one point five, I just saved eight million dollars. That's
what it comes down to. Sometimes it's dollars and cents.
But with Dak Prescott, my point is Dak can win
you games. So can Kirk Cousins. They're both for fourth
round quarterbacks. What separates a.
Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
First round quarterback from a fourth round quarterback is intangibles.
Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Right, You got to think about the pressure.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Right, This guy that's a first round quarterback, more likely
he was a four or five star recruit. The guy
been the guy since elementary. He been dealing with pressure.
He knows how to walk that walk. The guy us
a fourth round quarterback. He may have had some adversity,
he overcomes some things, but he just don't have that
guy giving that guy given ability and he just don't.
(01:09:39):
He missing something. That's why he slipped to the fourth round.
He's talent evaluators. They're not that incompetent or they wouldn't
have a job.
Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
So it's something missing, and that something missing is the
difference between them making a play and not making a play.
Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
I think that's what it comes down to. And we
in our eyes don't lie.
Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
You look at Joe Burr and you look at Jalen Hurst,
no disrespect. I know he just won the Super Bowl,
but there's no way you can tell me they're in
the same class with Towna.
Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
No way. You look at Dak Prescott and you look at.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Jalen Hurts when the game is on the line, there's
something that God gave Jalen Hurst that he didn't give
Dak Prescott. They don't have much to do with coaching.
You could put Dak Prescott in the right situation. He
just doesn't have it, right, Like you said, maybe take
the ball out his hand. May me make it easy
for him, but he don't have it because he ain't
shown that he got it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
That's just that's my take on it.
Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
When I talk about first round versus fourth round, take
Tom Brady out the conversation, Tom Brady the trivia answer
for every damn thing.
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
What about Joe? What about it? What about Joe Montana?
Joe Montana too? I mean shit, but that's nineteen eighty
to two thousand. I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
I'm just saying, those are the two, arguably two of
the best quarterbacks that haven't played a game, and they
they was d under the third ramp.
Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
But on top of that, old doll, they played for
two of the best head coaches and systems.
Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Right, And that's what I was.
Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
But that's what I'm trying to say, and I will
continue to tell all our listeners and viewers it don't matter.
Sometimes Wes Walker went to Miami Dolphins. I'm gonna repeat that.
Wes Walker was at Miami returning punts.
Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
He was about to be out the league, the young
the other boy, the Adaman or whatever.
Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
He was instead with the Rams in Saint Louis. Yeah,
I mean, Julian dam I mean it's like you gotta
go to the Sometimes you're blessed to go to the
right system, in the right system and the right coaches
around you to highlight your skill set to make the
(01:11:57):
overall team better.
Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
It's what wins.
Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
If I got big offensive lineman and my running backs
ain't in my skill positions, ain't the best. Well, you
know what, we're gonna go sweep right, sweet left power left, power.
Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Right, don't make the foot don't make the game harder
than what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
Yeah, I personally when Dak Prescott played against the Green
Bay Packers in that NFC of I don't know, I
forgot what Johnny was. They lost, but I thought Dak
Prescott played pretty well and he made some big time throws.
That's why I get on Lamar Jackson so much. It's
not that I'm not rute. I root for Lamar more
than I'm not a Baltimore fan. But I root for
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him all the time because I want to see him
do well. But Lamar got him eventually. Coach Milt talking
about yeah, okay, well you're gonna have to run and
run man, you ain't running in no playoffs like that.
You gotta eventually because what happens is the same thing
that would won the Super Bowl for the Philadelphia Okay,
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everybody thought Sakwan was gonna run.
Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Okay, now we're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
We're gonna put nine in the box, or we're gonna
put eight in the box. Now what you're gonna do.
We're gonna force you to throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
So it's gonna come to a point in a in
a in a big time game, like you're saying money mowhere,
You're gonna have to play quarterback and you're gonna have
to make some throws in a tight window. Lamar, whether
it's Lamar Jackson or who or Joey d or whoever
the case may be. Because what happens is the good
defensive coordinators and the good coaches will take away from
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you what you do best. I put Instead of putting
one spy on Lamar, We're gonna put two spies on
the mark.
Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
You any of Baltimore receivers really feel like, can I
go out and party?
Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Yeah, I'm out. I'm not worried about d Hop no more.
He slow.
Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
That's true, he's slow, he he ain't fat. You know,
if I'm a young corner, if I'm anna Pete Patrick sertain,
I'm not worried about him.
Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Who am I worried about? What receivers? Am I worried about?
Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
In Baltimore, they gotta say, I'm not worried about Bateman
Flowers playing the slot? So we can we can double
team him with a with a nickel in a in
a in a in a wheel lineback right, he playing
in the slot, Yeah, he gonna be, He gonna play,
he gonna do whatever in the slot. He might he
might win his matchup. The bottom line is when I
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when we're talking about football, how you win NFL games?
Is you the team that wins more individual battles will
win the game.
Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Period. It's just that simple. So if coach Millon want
to run the ball all day and he's a running team, cool.
Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
No problem.
Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
If money Mode you're a passing team, we're gonna drop
back and we're gonna play. We only gonna rush four
go ahead, and we're gonna force you to force you
to get you gonna drive all the way down to
the field and in the red zone.
Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
You're gonna be kicking field goal. That's how some decoordinators think.
I've literally been in de.
Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
Courting, whether it's at Ohio State with Mike Rable when
he was the decordinator assistant head coach. That's sometimes what
they're saying. Okay, we're going against Wisconsin. They got this
young boy tune his son. He can fly out boogie. Okay,
when he go to this side, we're gonna roll covers
to him. When we go backside. Hey, Shay's ear, you
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gonna you're gonna, you know, you're gonna, You're gonna whatever,
get get appalled. You're gonna get underneath all in and
rob all inside routes.
Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
So you it's it's it's a game. It's a chess game.
But what happens is eventually, when you're playing in the playoffs,
those windows get even smaller and a quarterback is going
to have to I don't care. Jayleen Hurst just showed
us he had to make some throws. Look at the
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throws and look at the placement of the ball on
those throws. He had the boy from Washington looking good.
And they've got rid of and they've got rid of
the receiver.
Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
You don't even know who he was. He was a
first round pick. He didn't last three years money Moe.
They got rid of him after two seasons. The boy
out of Penn State, he go to Philadelphia. He catching
fade routes for touchdowns and the N zone. What did
we just talk about, all three of us. It talks
(01:16:26):
about sometimes when you get in the place and you
go to a situation and a team that knows how
to use your skill set trouve.
Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
I mean Russell Wilson. Okay, yeah we can. We can
talk about it in basketball football no matter what. Non
be Austome was. He go to Philly, he leave, he
leaves Oakland, come to Philly, Philly played. You know, they
mix it up. He lost when it comes to playing
Cover two twenty two man and Cover three, Cover four.
Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
He like, man, I'm a man, the man guy, I'm
a cat.
Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah what am I what? I don't run with him.
Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
I gotta stand here and look and play zone and wait,
I gotta play I gotta play off technique?
Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
Alvin Hainesworth is another one. Okay, that's my point. Sometimes
you know it just goes to you know, where where
your team and where you go. Sometimes some of these
quarterbacks are blessed to go with great situations. You know,
is the quarterback from Carolina? Is he gonna be a
bus As much as we say the quarterbacks that are
(01:17:36):
first rounders, they got that it factor.
Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Well a lot of.
Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
Them first rounds sometimes don't pan out too good. Right,
So will yeah, will know how this year.
Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Test six five or a six seven Wings fan if
he if he overthrow him?
Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
I agree. Oh though, it's time to look again because
you got yeah, so you know it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
But the bottom line is, like I said, I'm happy
for all these players because I look at.
Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
It like this money Moe. Just like if you if
you was the one.
Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
That was cutting the checks, if coach Miller coach was
cutting the checks. If I can cut you a check
for sixty, then so what they're the ones that's getting
the brand I'm cut Yeah, I'm paying him sixty? Yeah, okay,
So how much am I bringing in? If I can
cut him a check for sixty and don't lose no sleep?
Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Hey fa on that on that note? Or you see
they just an NFL just signed. They just bought uh
they just uh bought Uh what's the red zone package?
Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
And all that shit. They just solidified that deal this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
Man, it's a billion wall. It's no, it's no. And
you think they worried about the cherryman. Listen, it's a
terryman right now at Ohio State in Alabama, it's another one.
So that's why for the players, you got to say,
you gotta get your money while you can, right, You
(01:19:03):
gotta get your money while you can, while you hot.
You gotta go big. You gotta go big. You ain't
gonna have too many owners. It's gonna show you love
and take care of you. So it is what it is.
It's all about what have you done for me? Later
and even and even then they might not give you your break.
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
My boy, that's the one from Maryland. That's one. What's up?
I think that's my man one. What's up?
Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
One?
Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
University? I think that's one.
Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
If that's my man, the one I could fly boogie
University of Maryland wide Receiver.
Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
I don't know if that's him, that might be somebody else.
Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
But if that's the Won Jones that went to Roosevelt
High School, fly out buggie, but once again he go
to University of Maryland, he coming in. If that's the
Wonn Jones, I don't know if that's him, Is that him?
Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Then what's so I'm about to I'm about to put
you on blast.
Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
So Wan go to University of Maryland right after Jermaine Lewis,
right after man Cell Johnson. So he a part of
that crew that you know what I'm saying, is going
just about to go crazy with Scott Milanovich and them quarterback.
That's when Maryland was one of the first ones with
that super duper spread, fast offense. Well, coach Duffliner, who
(01:20:27):
I'm good friends with to this day, and I'm gonna
put it in the group. I should put it on show.
Y'all Me and Mark Dufflin. A lot of y'all don't know.
Me and Mark Dufflin are still good friends to this day.
University of Maryland had football coach, Yeah win you already
know so, but one goes there, Mark Duffler gets fired.
(01:20:49):
They bringing a new coach, change up the whole offense.
Now you gotta wire man Cell Johnson. He ain't have
to worry about it because man, he was getting ready leaved.
He only had one more year. Wine got three more
years left. Situation right.
Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Sometimes, But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Sometimes you go into these situations and it ain't always
the player, it ain't always and it's not always the coaches.
Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
For he didn't recruit one one, A fourth one running
four two, he on he on want of the him
and Jermaine Lewis man Cell Johnson. They just finished running
up at the pen relays, number one high school track team,
in the top five in the country. He get to Maryland.
Now you got him stalk blocking. He fo he faster
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than everybody in the stadium. But you want to move,
you want him to stalk block.
Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
You. You gonna too, You're gonna double tight ends to
ide receive I for major with somebody that that's faster
than half of people in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
That's what I'm saying. Something.
Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
So sometimes you don't know. You know what I'm saying.
Sometimes you don't know. You gotta get with a coach,
you gotta get with a system.
Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
You gotta go. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
Because if that presscott goes to if that presscott messages
with Andy Reid, you think you don't think he gonna
be a better quarterback?
Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Absolutely, Okay, Then That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Well on that point, Oh, before we wrap it up,
do you think it's advantageous sometime as a player to
take a pay cut to stay where you at or
to chase the break?
Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
I think it's I think if I already got my money, yeah,
if I've if I already got my my if I've
been blessed to get too big deal.
Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
You want to always try to get too big deals
if you can't.
Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
But if I've already got that super duper crazy deal
in my fine and my finances are right, and I
don't mind taking a pay cut, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
You know, you know everybody's different me.
Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
If you actually personally, I'm simple, You're talking to somebody
I don't care how much money I'm white teasing air
Max and bucket hats.
Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
I ain't never been in the Valenciagos and Murray Murry's
and Christy I can't even spell that ship.
Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Why am I wearing?
Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
They don't want me, They don't want niggas in excuse
my language, they don't want black folks into stuff anyway.
Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Yeah, But.
Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
With that being said, I respect all of those in
the fashion and love, you know, love what they do.
That's that's that's with them. But me personally, I want
to win. I want to win.
Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
So if I got to take two, if I got
to take you know, two million less or million, like
I said, it all depends if I've already gotten.
Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
My big deal.
Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
But if I got if I got my big deal already,
and we're saying, well, hey, oh I know you up man.
We're trying to bring money mode back to be that
to be the number three corner. You know, you need
three solid corners. You and coach Milton already locked in.
Hey man, you know, would you man, what we gotta do.
Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
To keep it? Let's get it done.
Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
You know what I'm saying, what we gotta do because
that's that's the type of person I am. But everybody,
I get it. Everybody not like that. You gotta get
your money when you can. Now, would I have done
that if I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Going on my first deal? Absolutely not. My boy, oh
Man Morgan probably watching this joint.
Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
When I had a chance to sign in Montreal and
instead of staying in Saskatchewan, I man, they gave me that,
And I'm the type of person, and I would I
hope Old Washington. I put Oh on the phone with
the general manager because oh was my veteran. And when
we got off the phone, I let him listen to
the whole conversation. He said goodbye.
Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
He said, you'd be a damn fool to stay in
Saskatchewe will Montreal offering you that type of money. He
said bye, He said, don't don't eve, he said, matter
of fact, get off my phone.
Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
Hung the phone.
Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
So my point is, sometimes you gotta have that type
of you know, you gotta have that type of but
don't be loyal to a fault because you know the
team ain't gonna be loyal to you. Yeah, but if
we're gonna we got a chance to go win the
super Bowl, and I get a chance to play with
coach Milton, who I've been playing with three years, and
money more who I've been playing and we know how
(01:25:25):
to man We switching stuff in you know whereas to
the point.
Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Where we ain't even got to think about it.
Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
We can do.
Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
We all we got to do is look to each
other and put it and go like this, And we
know what that means. You know what I'm saying like that,
that's you know, that's gonna make us fly around and
go out and make play. So if I gotta take
you know, a little bit of a pay cut, coach Miller,
so we can keep that nucleus together for a little bit,
then I'm all for that. That's that's just me. That's
(01:25:53):
just now, that's just me money more, that's just me.
Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
After I got that. Hey, but you know who did
that in real life? Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Michale Bridges.
Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
They left thirty five million dollars on the table, Yeah,
to play with each other.
Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
Yeah, then Bridges didn't Bridges get didn't Bridges just get
a contract earlier.
Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
For one twenty five he could have gotten. Yeah, I
got more, and we know Jalen could have got more,
way more. But he left money on the table to
sign Josh Hart.
Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
So that's my point, Like like said the comfort man,
when you can when you call and you can play
this ship play thoughtless. Man, I know what's gonna happen
over here if I do this and and he know
what's Hey, everybody flying around having a good time, and
you know you got each other's back.
Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Come on, man, Sincinnati's gonna be there.
Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
But man, since now we might lose every game, but
damn in on offense, we're gonna be fun to watch. Yes,
watch you know a A one you should have been
playing with my man, Joey Bart.
Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (01:26:59):
Now one one could flat out doing one. We appreciate
you watching the show. Brother, I miss you, brother, love you.
Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Man. He was one was like a o G to
me when I was.
Speaker 5 (01:27:09):
When I should have been in school, But I'm up
at University of Maryland campus hanging out with him. I'm
a junior in high school. Good little because your fault.
You know what I'm saying. But no, that's uh. He
was him and man Sell them boys was but and Darnielle.
All them boys they playmakers. They know them boys had
the mob man. They could they could fly out fly man.
(01:27:32):
I mean all three of them, all world track stars
and on the Roosevelt football team. Then all three of
them went to University of Maryland. One was the class
of ninety two, one was a class in ninety three,
and one was a class of ninety four. All three
of them University of Maryland track stars. Four bout one
relay team and you got them and you got him
(01:27:55):
running stock on a tall suite, said man Wan, if
you on transfer and go play somewhere our west where
they throw the ball forty times, you already know.
Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Hey, real quick get said, he hopes that Terry get
his money too. I think that go back to old point.
Terry got shorter on the first deal because of his
draft status. So yeah, it's time for him to get
his bread. We all agree with that. We all agree
it's time.
Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
No question, no question, fellas, is there anything on your
mind as we get ready to wrap this thing up.
Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
That's then I want to and listeners to know. That's it, man.
Speaker 5 (01:28:36):
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Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
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Speaker 5 (01:28:55):
We've had everybody on here, so we once again we
just want I just want to say and say from us.
Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Hey man, we appreciate it. That's just me saying, hey,
we appreciate y'all. You already know that.
Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
On that note, thank you everybody for tuning in. One GT.
Kobe you'll be back next week.
Speaker 5 (01:29:15):
One call my phone. Man call me sometime. Damn well, coach,
you got anything.
Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Hey, Man as always, Man, respecting honor. Man y'all. Y'all dudes,
be good. Man. Appreciate everybody watching Z Slut
You're alive all right.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, welcome to the No Cap Sports Show. I am
your host, more Money.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm your host, Coach Milton, I am your host old
dog a k a oh, we are missing one of
our hosts today, Uh coach Kobe Turner A ka da Kobra.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Shout out to you, safe travels to you and the fen.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Indeed, what that what that being said?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
What's happening fellas? Hey?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Another good week to start.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The football?
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Oh man, hey, hey, we got football from now on
until till the Super Bowl. Let's do it U, no question,
no question. I'm excited. I can't wait for tomorrow. Starting
tomorrow in these preseason games go. And I know a
lot of people don't like to watch the preseason, but
(00:57):
I'm a big preseason guy because, uh, I know how
what those young men are fighting for.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So I'm a I'm a big preseason guy.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
So I like to watch a lot of the preseason
and find the hitting gyms and things like that. So
I'm excited to see these guys get their opportunity. And
uh also see some of the veterans that you know
that's coming off of injuries or you know, maybe gonna
play a couple of snaps things like that. So I'm excited.
I'm excited about tomorrow and this weekend asolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I think it's a It's good to point out that
the NFL preseason is not like the NBA. No offense
to those guys, but some of those guys.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
You might not ever hear again in life. But in
the NFL you got Hall of famers out there. Man,
it was a preseason legend and the list going and on.
Shannon Shark was a preseason lesson, So yeah, you never
know who you might see out there.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
For sure, either of you guys.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Catch the Buffalo Bills, the what is it? Hard Knocks?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
No, I didn't find out about it.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I knew it was coming the show was coming on,
but I didn't know it started until earlier in the day.
I saw somebody mention it and I was like, damn,
I missed the first episode, but I'm gonna watch it
as soon as down here, I'm gonna watch I was
the first episode it was.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
It was dope. It was dope, so definitely catch it.
Definitely catch it.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Some of the things you spoke about, you got some
veterans balance with some of the new guys. It's cool
to see how they're taking each other under the wing
and getting h you know how that Buffalo Mafia crowd
is the fan base. This is pretty dope. And they
got the new stadium that they're building too.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yeah that that opens that opens up next next year,
twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I mean one thing to point out though, unlike the
NBA where it's coming back, because of the way the
NFL salary cap is right now, with the quarterbacks taking no.
Lie forty forty to sixty percent of the salary cap,
you gotta have vets in there.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
You gotta have vests in it. Yeah. I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I don't know why the NFL don't just make the
quarterbacks you have your own salary cap and then just
let the then chop up that money with the you know,
the rest of that money with the players, man. But
you know, with the quarterbacks taking damn there fifty of
the salary cap, man, it's hot.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
And then when you add a cumulative quarterbacks, so let's
say you got a good room, right, you know, I'm
going with that like you got a justin Herbert and
I just say like a Chase Daniels from back in
the day. Chase Daniels wasn't the normal backup quarterback, so
ten to you know, five to ten mil, not to
count his pockets. But then you got somebody like Justin Herbert,
(03:43):
who getting another forty fifty million.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That's sixty million sitting in one.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Room in one run.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I love. Look, I would love to be in there
with him. Give me.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
I mean, I wouldn't I be the best water boy
clipboard holder and water boy clipboard Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Man, you wouldn't have to worry about me.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Pride head be held, high, head be held.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
You you want to have to worry about me for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
For speaking of that though, you know they brought Teddy
b back, Teddy Bridgewater just to do that presence to
the locker help our Baker Mayfield Bridge. So your reputation,
you said all the time, Oh dog, your reputation will
precede you. And sometimes they pay you just about your
attributes more than your talent, no, no question, no question, And.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And then and then on that.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Now now, now the parents can do what they want
to do with that high school football team since they
don't want to happen there.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Good luck, Yeah, shout out the DVD shout out and
Sean Spence, I know you all with some of the
guys that was fighting for for for y'all former teammate.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Uh, but y'all gotta get that together, man, y'all gotta
get that together.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
You know they are Northwest alumni, but y'all got to
get that. I know Spencer's I don't think. I think
I don't know about d v D, but I know
for sure Spencers.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So y'all gotta.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Get Hey, Teddy said, don't worry about it. Y'all can
go play on Friday night. Come see your coach down
on the sideline on Sunday. We're gonna be all right.
I still got you, man.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, they fumbled the bag on that one man, And
like I said, I feel bad for the kids and
the alumns.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah, kids the one to take the blount of it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Man, most great, great, Well what we got.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Congratu.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I was starting it off money mope, man.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I tell you what we're gonna We're gonna kick it
back old school, old dog. Well back in the day
we first started, no cap each one of us had
a topic. Ain't no prompting, no scripting. Hey, what you
want to talk about. Oh, so I'll kick it off,
all right. The first topic or thing that's really bothered me.
Y'all seen it in the chat. I'm sorry been blowing
(06:10):
y'all up about it. I feel like it's not just
Jerry Jones, but it's other owners too. The Bengals owner,
I don't know his name. He come to mind too,
to where I don't think they respect the players for
what they put out there on the field. So how
do y'all feel like NFL owners view players in their relationship?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Go ahead, Coach Milton, I'm go ahead.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
You know what's crazy? Man?
Speaker 6 (06:38):
I just me and my wife just sat down Friday night.
We was bored nothing on TV and we pulled up
the Kaepernick Black or White specials. That's how I feel
about it. Both my boys were sitting to the left
and right.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Is that a stretch? I said, what do you think?
You know?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
When they pulled the slavey line through, they was doing all,
you know, mesurable stuff. I say, hey, man, how many
how many black owners are in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
And then how many black players in the NFL? You know?
Speaker 6 (07:07):
And so for me, I just think, you know, not
not only Jerry Jones, but just as a as a
ownership group.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Man, it's it's a good old boys club, you know. Uh.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
They they run it like a high operating corporation. I
think it's probably the biggest corporation in America. I think
it's probably one of the most powerful organizations in America.
And it's a billionaires boys club, you know. I think
you got a few minority owners, you got a few
women owners. But that's that's old that's old, old money, man,
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and they gonna do what they want to do. They
treat the players how they want to treat them. And
if you get out of line, and you know, a
lot of people don't believe it, but look at what's
happening with your door. They keep them in line. And
if you step out of the line as an owner,
you see how the Cleveland Brown's owner like, hey man,
that wasn't me, you know, because they they those guys
penalize each other in those rooms when they're having a
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big meeting.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So you know, that's what it is. And I think
everybody knows.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
That, some more than others, because you know, when you're
in the league and you're dealing with it, you understand
what it is and there's really nothing you can do
about it except for step away. But how many people
going to turn down that money?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Man? You know, it's it's I don't think it's selling
your soul.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
You're making you're making a living for your family, and
it's a great opportunity to be one of the few,
you know, elite players in the world. But that's what
you deal with, you know. And I don't think it's
just in the NFL. I think it's you know, professional
sports across the board. You know, the owners run it.
I think the NBA gives a little bit more leeway,
but still if you step out of line, they'll let
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you know, Hey, this is what it is. As most says,
protect the brand. Nobody's bigger than the brand. Nobody's bigger
than the brand. And I think the NFL is is
probably one of the most powerful organizations out there.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So, oh, how you feel about it? Oh? The question?
What was the question to get money Moe? Was what?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
How do you feel like do you feel the owners
respect the players in their business relationship?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Got you?
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I feel like I feel like the the owners run this,
run that ship as a business man, and I feel
like they feel like if I could get cheaper. Uh.
If I can get cheaper workers, that might not be
you know, money, Moe might be the best. But for
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every money, Moe or Michael Parsons, for every for every
Andre what's his name?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Uh? What was his name? Where they used to play
with the Calvin markets. Everything market is.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Where there's a market, there's a Michael Parsons. It's always
gonna be pushed from the bottom. And I feel like
Jared Jones, I'm not making no excuse for my I
feel like he like, well, shit, we've been burned on
a couple of these.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Last ones man, and he like shit.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Looking at it as a business wise, we get this
man sixty million dollars a sign.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I mean, who knows what might happen.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
But overall, I feel like the owners is, you know,
they always going to It's been like that forever. Especially
you know you brought up to Cincinnati Bengals. Cincinnati ain't
never paid anybody. I mean, think about it. Farston Palmer
had to sit out t Kiyo's fighters. He had to
go to he left Buffalo or he started in Buffalo.
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He started since he did have to go to Buffalo
and get his money, you know, didn't finish his career.
I think in the A if I'm not mistaken, you know,
Corey Dillon, he had to leave Cincinnati. He was one
of the top three Russians in the National Football League.
His numbers was up there with everybody, and he was
no disrespect to the offensive arm of the Cincinnati but
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he running by them. Yeah, and he's still in the
top five. And y'all, y'all two and fourteen. You know
what I mean, you can't name some of the players
that was playing with Corey Dillon back in the when
they was playing, right, That's my point. So you know,
Cincinnati always been cheap like that. They don't you know,
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they gonna do the bare minim. But you know, I
mean a lot of people talking about, well Martin Lewis
was there for twenty some years, well fifteen years or
whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, Martin Lewis also wasn't a top ten played.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
The highest paid coaches, right, Yeah, he was right in
that right in that he was getting some good money,
But he wasn't never top five, top ten, nah, because
if it was, they were the Choppins ass a long
time ago. Right, So I personally feel like I'm not
for real, I personally feel like it comes with the
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bit business. Is it fair? No, But I don't think
it's fair for somebody at McDonald's and the owner to
treat the one of the other people, the French fry
guy bet worse than the person that's.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
On the cash rep.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I don't think it's I think it's I think it's
obviously because of the sport and because of the people
being in the limelight and in the media and things
like that. It's it gets trust way way more publicity
and more things like that, or whatever the case. But
this shit happens in all different type of professions, you know,
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and it's it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's why you want to get with a good organization.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
A lot of people don't understand, like you want to
get with a good organization that's going to take care
of you. I mean, I mean, look at Philadelphia. Say
Quarantine signed a new contract last year. They didn't have
to redo his deal.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I don't care how.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Much he outplayed his deal. So what you signed the
contract last year? Do I did they have to did
they have to do they have to band? Okay, That's
what I'm saying. Sometimes I don't think it's all the owners.
I think it's some of the owners, right, I think
it's some of the owners. Then we go to situations
where some of these owners pay these players because they
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need to fill out, to fill out the stands. A
lot of me and me and the O g Fredo
got in got into it on this show. Why would
you pay? Why would you pay? Uh? The boy down in?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Uh? Trevor Lawrence? Yeah? And Jack will Well?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Who else was that?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Who else was you gonna pay? Who else was the
people gonna come? See? That's right. I gotta I gotta put.
I gotta put somebody, you know, just like I got
to book a band, right, I gotta book some talent
for for for my for my nightclub, or somebody will
come into the club and and and and get some
(14:00):
of this liquors, some of these hot dogs, these chicken strips. Well,
you know what I'm saying, Beer's beer's twelve dollars, right.
So I think it's an overall I look at it
just as an overall business. Is it is it messed up? On?
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Is it gonna change?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's not. You know a little bit. What we I
think they should change up to how the pies split up?
You know, like we talked about.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
And I think it will be a little bit better,
but it's it's overall, it's a messed up system.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But that's what you sign up for, you know what
I mean. That's just like I tell people all time.
People say, well, football is violent, and you know it's
it's a fit, you know. I said, well, that's why
they had basketball sign up, That's why they had soccer,
you know. Band Nobody told these kids or people to
go sign up for football.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
It's a contact sport, right And it's also they come
to the business wise.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
This is the business. So let me get my business
in order and things like that.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
And you gotta be willing sometimes moneymore to do what
Michael Parson is doing. Man, just well trade me or
I got an injury, I'm gonna be in camp so
I don't get fined my back hurn. Now we'll figure
it out, even figure it out, and then I don't
have to play. I think you only got to play
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eight games or six games, or to be eight or
something whatever it was for him to have a credited season.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Right right.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, So but I'm older, everything is spot on and
I'm gonna just add to it like this coach as well.
When we sign these collective bargaining agreements, you now you're
in ben with the owners, right, we know they don't
really respect your talents. No owner and employee, there's there's
a certain amount of level of disrespect, whether it's intentional unintentioned.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Right, how own the company you work for?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Me? Right?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Just align When you sign these CBA agreements, you put
that in there. So not only do Michael Parson have
to play out this rookie deal with a fifth year
option that you negotiated, they own your rights for another
two years because they can franchise tack you. They can
put a restricted free agent tender on you, they can
put a second round tendo on you. These are things
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that I think sometimes haven't been a part of a
somewhat of a bootleg player association that everybody got to
come to the table and be on one accord and
don't get greedy because you screw over not only the
highest paid man, but the lowest man when you're doing
these things. So that's what's putting Jerry Jones and even
the Bengals owners in a predicament because if you think
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about it, Jerry Jones owned the Cowboys before that was
a salary cap. So he used to doing business under
a certain pretension. I should even evolved. He should have,
but he a billionaire. How many in them maxuly evolved?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You either do it my way or it's the hotway.
I think that's what makes it messy.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
The players have to stop being a greedy take a
step back, you know, save your money. I know that's
harder to say, easier said than done. When you when
you gotta feed your family, but if you know it's coming,
be prepared. The w n b A is in the
same stance. They don't need to take no sucker deal
just to get some money right now, because you shorten
the next generation of ballers. That's why it looks bad
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in the NFL. So do I reprieve Jerry.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But at the same time, like oh Dog said, I
can't blame them either because these are the rules that
are in place. So that was my rant on that
feelers coach. What you got with you, what's your topic,
what you want, what you want to chop it up about.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I think it's a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
But I think the biggest thing for me is I
put in the chat group was this what did your
guys stance on this whole stephen A. Smith Michelle Obama
thing with if you guys paid any attention to it,
where Michelle Obama basically says steven A. Smith is like
the Atlanta Housewives's he's being allowed, he's messy, you know,
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and he's doing more entertainment than reporting. And then Stevin
A went back at her and said, well, I don't
appreciate you saying that about me, and then he jumped
right into the political loop about what Obama did and
all this, and I'm like, bruh, what are you? Are
you trying to be a politician or you trying to
be a sportscaster?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
And I ain't you know, and ain't I don't have
no no.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
You know, steven A has hustled, he's he's built his empire.
But I just think that the whole sports casting has
become more entertainment than informative, and uh, you know, that's
that's just And so for me, I don't know if
he's politic and for political for political stance, or if
he's serious. I don't take him serious anymore. You know,
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he's always out there in the middle or something. So
if you got. What do you guys think about it?
If anything at all?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think he.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I think he has the number one show sports show
for the last fit for the last ten years.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, I think he.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I think he got an NBA Players Association contract with ESPN, right.
I think he wanted to high So I'm not I
don't agree with how he went about it, but I
mean it's obviously whatever he's doing is working for him.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Would I do that but something? Absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
But as far as the going at Michelle Obama is
like or you know, going back and forth with her,
I think he should use one of the things that
he says all the time when people go at him
or say things to him. I'm pretty sure he can
get that Michelle Obama's number. Why not give her a
call instead of going at another African American, black, beautiful
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woman regardless if you disagree with her. You can disagree
with her, you know off, you know, and be like, hey, look,
you don't come in me, you know, such as a
judge or whatever, you know what I mean. But to
go back and forth and then talk about the politics thing,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I stay away from politics. I don't really get involved
in that. Type stuff, So I just think I would
just say I think it's unfortunate one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Although I agree with you that last statement was spot
on as well as the rest of the points that
you articulated. It's unfortunately whenever we have two African Americans
that are both recognizable figures, one being the first lady,
the other being a very successful sportscaster, I think two
things can be true. Right, the politics acide, I ain't
(20:54):
even getting into that. But as far as ESPN being
more of an entertainment business, it is. I'm an eighties baby,
so I grew up in ESPN just loose highlights all
day long. That's all they did toil the next live event, right,
no first take what, none of this craziness.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But then at the same time, we also didn't have
the Internet. We also didn't have blogs. Like I don't
even have to watch ESPN. I could go look at
the Bleacher Report, or I can go follow Matt Barnes
and Steven Jackson or somebody else if.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I want to get a sports tape.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
So that's what ESPN has to compete with because they
still are in business with Disney to get make dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So yeah, is it a little corny sometime in my opinion, Yeah,
that's why I don't watch it. But there are other
people that do. That's what they enjoy it. If I
wanted to watch a soap opera watching Young and the Wrestlers,
I don't need to watch grown men arguing all day.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It's just me right, more money. Not to cut you off,
but Steven a is on Young in the Wrestlers as well.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
My point I can't right, you know that what I'm saying,
he on you know, yeah, he on the shows.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
He on, like you said, soap o shows too. He's
transcended sports.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
And good on him because he didn't he didn't he
didn't do He did it his.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Way right, whatever way that is. I might not agree
with it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It's not in my character to do some of those things,
but that's what he did, right, So I can't be
mad at him. But at the same time, I think
people have to stop, you know, taking shots at how
ESPN does their programming. It works, and they gotta eat
over there and that's that's how they have to eat
man's And it's my last point. I ain't gonna be labor,
but it's like right now, right, if I'm talking to
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one of my kids, that my five year old, I
gotta say what I need to say in three seconds
because that's all I got And that's the attention span
of most viewers these days. You got three to five
seconds or they moving on.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
They're gonna find what they want for sure, right right, right?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, my.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Topic, my topic is what do you guys think about
the Detroit it's on football.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
What do you guys think about the Detroit.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Lions with them losing their officive coordinator as well as
the decordinator. Do you feel like they're going to be
able to bounce back and have the great succession get
back to the NFC champ Well, it didn't make to
the MC championship game, but do you think they will
be able to get back and have a strong season
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like they did last year?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Mhm.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
In my opinion, I'm gonna say no, and I say
it has less to do with them losing that offensive
coordinator defensive coordinator as it does with the attrition of sports. Right, So,
if you're number one in your division, the way that
the NFL is set up is a parody league.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
The bottom team is getting better. That bottom team is
the Chicago Bears. You can't just walk on your schedule
and pencil in two wins against the Chicago Bears. They're
very talented team. They could catch you. The Green Bay
Packers are very talented team in that division. The Vikings
are a very talented team in that division. So in conjunction,
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like you pointed out, Old Dog were losing that offense
coordinator defense coordinator, their division has gotten that much better
in the process. Right, If JJ McCarthy plays anything like
competent football.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
The Vikings will be right in that conversation.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
So I believe that the Detroit Lions will take a
step back because they lost their offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator,
but also because the division got better.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Gotcha right, what's the what's the what's the head coach's name?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Dan Campbell?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Dan Campbell? Okay, I don't know. I was gonna say
Dan Quinnon. I know there wasn't, but so don't. I
don't think it's so much of them losing their offensive
coordinator as it does for their defensive coordinator, because last year,
if I'm not mistaken, their their defense got decimated with injuries, correct,
and they were still they.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Were still all too talented.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
They were still competing and still killing people. And I
think with Dan Campbell, he was still even though they
had Johnson, who was the creative mind behind what I
call him the mastermind, but all the trick plays, Dan
Campbell was still the offensive courd like they were running
his plays. He just had to spin off Johnson. So
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I think they still have the base, they still have
all the talent. I don't think they lost anybody on offense,
and I think they're going to have a healthy None
of their key players I'll say that none of their keeps,
so most of their offenses coming back. Very talented offensive
group of guys can score in multiple ways, can beat
you multiple ways.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
And I think defensively, I think Hutchinson is coming back.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
So I think if they get a if they can
feel the healthy defense and and the coordinator is half
as competent as the defensive coordinator was last year, I
think again they may take a step back.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
But I think there's still.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
A very dangerous team in a highly competitive division. Like
I said, everybody's getting better, but I don't. I don't
think the loss of the coordinators are really gonna be
the the problem. I think it's just making sure that
they can get their defense back up and running because
them casts was dangerous on the offensive side of ball.
They just couldn't they couldn't outscore enough people because the
defense couldn't stop nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So that's that's where I think. That's where I think
they are.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Matter of fact, I'm I'm gonna go out on a limb, right,
I'm gonna because I've been watching a lot of the
Commander's games, right when Senora screenshot watching them James Daniel plays,
and I went back and I looked at some of
the Kyler Murray plays and when the offensive coordinator was
in Arizona, and then you look at the second half
of the Commanders. I'm telling you right now, I don't
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think the Commander is gonna make the playoffs. And I
don't think the Lion's gonna make the playoffs. And I'll
tell you why.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
A lot of the things that their offensive coordinator does
is predicated. It's smoking mirrors, right, it's not. They don't
have a real true identity. It's not like, Okay, we're
gonna run this power or we're a stretched team, or
we run a lot of slants.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
So goals.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We run a lot of quick routes.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
No, a lot of that is based on trickery and
that quarterback bringing keys right. So defense is being a
lot like undisciplined in their key recognition. So I'm supposed
to take a dive, I take the pitch and the
quarterback runs for ten yards. Well, once it's on tape
and you start reading those keys, that ten yard run
now is getting your quarterback hit right, and repetition to
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getting hit. He not gonna get hurt, but he gonna
get shy, and the offense coordinator gonna stop calling some
of those plays. So I don't believe they'll be able
to full defenses this year. That's one and then two
with Terry McLaurin being out. The wide receiver quarterback connection
is one of those things that has to be repetitious.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I saw it last year with Dallas and.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
CD Whenever those quarterbacks and the wide receivers missed key time,
which is the training camp. When you're going live in
these scrimmages, it messes up your rhythm. It takes three
to four games to get it back. In Detroit, Jared
Golf is Jared Goff. We can say that whoever plays
they was running. It was the offensive coordinator in that
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quarterback coach that was keeping them saying, and they lost,
can't win it Wiz Hunt. Right now, I think that
was a quarterbacks coach. I'm not sold on Jared Goff,
so he has to run a certain type of system
to be successful. He was successful on the Sean McVay,
and he was successful on the Ben Johnson.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
The two stops in between, then he looked pedestrian. So
that's just that's my prediction on Fellas. And I'm still
looking at a couple of Lions games to see if
I'm right, but I'm going on a limb right now.
I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
And that and I think and I think Dan Campbell
also has to show that he can stay out of
his own way when it comes.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
To going for it, right. I mean.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Like sometimes you gotta be like, Okay, yeah, you know,
I'll switch it up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
But uh, that's an interesting take money.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
And then to go back to the Terry McLain situation,
you think Terry.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Mccloin gonna get some not to not to jump over
the subject.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Oh but what uh, what do y'all think with the
ter mclauin situation, when it when you.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Since you brought that up, that's tough, is it?
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Are they gonna you think they're gonna get it done
or they're gonna try to wait it out.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's different from Michael Parsons in the fact that Michael
Parsons what twenty six years old?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Right, yep.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Terry McLain's thirty.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
His timeline doesn't exactly match Jaden Daniels in that sense.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And I don't know the Washington Commanders ownership.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I know Jerry Jones, Jerry gonna wolf all that he's
gonna pay Michael.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
They might take a stance and say, you know what,
we rather collect assets for Terry mccorn. We got Devo,
and they might not pay him. I honestly don't know
with Washington. If I had to, what would I do?
I'll pay him well if what makes economical sense, it
makes sense to trade him.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
To be honest with you, Oh do you think do
you think he can do you think he could be
successful anywhere else?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh? Arry, Yeah, he was successful in Washington.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
No, that's what Yeah, I just want to hear.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You, Jaydon Dan just got here this year.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I mean last year, Yeah, thousand yards, last four year,
last four season, he a thousand yards.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Do you know whose quarterback was two years ago?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Do you stay from Carolina?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Do you know whose quarterback was before that?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Nope.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So that's that's my answer to that. Yes, I think
he can be successful. I think he can be successful anywhere.
I think he just I just think he was caught
up in Well, that's one of the things what happens
when you come out of school at a at a
when you're a little bit older, you gotta People don't
realize he came out of Ohio State at twenty four
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years old.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
He did all four years at Ohio State. You know
what I mean, he was old. He was an older cat.
So you know, whether he went to a prep school,
red shirt and then went to for school four years whatever,
he twenty three, twenty four years old. So then when
he got his new deal, but then he did, he
outplayed it, right, So it's like, damn, these guys don't
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have half the numbers I have.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
DK Metcalf just got this and he.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Didn't do half of what I did, and I was
playing with way worse ported you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I won't say that, but you know, no.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Name guys Nay.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
So I think that's the reason why he like, well,
ship man, let me get one more. Let me just
get some more guaranteed money, because I know they're gonna
and then after that I'm gonna be on one year deals,
you know, or too.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
So I think he's he has a right to because
when you you when you have the cards, I mean,
it's just like, I don't play poker like that, but
I can only imagine when.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
You got that good hand and you got all the cards, man,
you got to stand firm and and I think that's
that's what he's doing right now. And that's what it's,
you know, because this is it for him. It is
no he won't get another big payday, right. So yeah,
so he's he's like, well, shit, I thought the last one,
but ship Jaden Dames came. I went crazy like no, no, no,
(32:54):
I'm I'm I should easily be up getting paid top
ten wide receiver money. And and if I was Washington,
I would me personally, I would pay them because it
was make your quarterback feel more comfortable, and that's that's
who your franchise is I don't care. I don't care
if they brought in my receiver, Chase, I don't care
(33:18):
if they brought in whoever. Davante asked, I don't care
what receiver you brought in. They still like you said money, know,
they gotta get that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
They got to get that.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Man and you know, everything together, And why would you
mess that up right now, right now? Why you just
had the best year you've had and we I don't know,
in eighty something, right, why wouldn't you Why wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
You just build any And then I would just tell Terry, look,
I'm not giving you no long term deal. I'll give
you a three year deal. I'll give you a three
year deal, and I give you some guaranteed money. But
I'm gonna let you know now, I probably am gonna
get rid of you after two up two years. So
(34:07):
you want to do a two.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Years, you want to do a three year deal, right,
We'll do a three year deal, give you guaranteed money
for you know whatever, forty million, I don't know, forty
five I don't know, you know, pay him to whatever
to going rate is in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Because I think he was getting twenty.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
But he like thirty five thirty seven so much.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, I'll give him something.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I'll tell you, you know, okay, three years, sixty million
or whatever, you know, a sixty five or set even seventy.
And then I'll just say, okay, I'll give you guaranteed
thirty thirty five. Yeah, and I keep him for two
years and that that, you know, whatever I mean, then
(34:51):
get rid of him. So I don't know. I just
if I was Washington, I would try to hurry up.
And if not, if you're not gonna, if you don't
see it in your plans, then trade them.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Here's some people, let him go. Trade him. Now? Why
are you?
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Why are you messing up? Why are you having negative
energy around the team that just went to the damn
NFC Championship game and you just got approved for a
billion dollars brand new, billion dollar stadium, bringing it back
to Washington, d C. Right where you had the old stadium?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Got base all excited and the biggest thing that's been missed.
I don't think they've said much about it. He hasn't said,
but that's that's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yes. He has said no, yes, he.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Has said something, No, I'm talking about Oh, I thought
you were talking about Terry mcclo Terry.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Saying Jaden Daniels, it has to be messing with who's
who's like who he got to throw to and and
a lot of his players predicated off of what action
term mccorn creates on the back top end of that defense.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
So it's terrible, terrible business, gentlemen, terrible business.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
I'm at the end of the day, we can say
the slave mentality whatever I get it.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'm I'm a business. I think like business. They're all commodities.
At the end of the day, you call it what
it is. Right, if you have a if you have
a chess piece like Terry McLaurin, just like Seattle deal
with DK metcalf, you sit down, you have a conversation,
like oh said, if the dollars ain't making sense, you.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Get rid of them during the draft.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
One thing that's sure, an old doll coach, y'all can
attest to this. Y'all been in mini camps, right, whether
it's a seven on seven, whether it's a were getting
we're getting together and were just running together. Everybody knows
everybody in the in the draft class that just happened
in the next draft class. So all these wide receivers
that was in this draft class that just passed, they
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know Jayden Dams. They probably got relationships. They probably done
chopped it up together. So you could have you could
have traded Terry McLaurin and drafted one of those young fellas,
whether it's a Matthew Golden, a Mecca a Booker, Tech McMillan,
because you think Carolina.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Will won't want a little bit of Terry mccaorn.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
You could have moved up in the draft, got one
of them young fellas, impaired him with Jay Names. Now
you master the wide receiver that's on his timeline and
you maximize that asset.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
That's just bad business for Washington.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
This is how franchises mess it up when you don't
maximize your assets.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
And that's astonishing because Washington is coming off of being
known for doing bad business.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
So the fallow suit.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Like O said, with all the excitement behind it, with
all the success you had to start off this season
like that, it's crazy. I mean, you got fans crying
for tern Man like Terry is a fan favorite around here.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah, I see if he was I see if he
was an asshole like he could have been some years
when even last year when he wasn't getting the ball,
not even getting looks, nothing in it, uh, not getting
looks things like that, like he could have he could
have really went, you know, he could have went crazy, like, man,
(38:05):
it should never be a game where it's the fourth
quarter and I'm just now getting one passed on my way.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Are y'all crazy?
Speaker 4 (38:11):
You know?
Speaker 5 (38:12):
So the fact that he didn't go to the media,
and that's why, that's that's why when you see him
go to the media, that's why I said, coach, nah,
I thought you were talking about Terry when he went
to the media and.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
He really expressed how he felt.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
He's like, damn, I've done everything right. Ye I've done
everything right. If I wasn't, if I wasn't playing good,
you guys wouldn't have any problem cutting me and releasing me.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
So so right now I'm not Yeah now, I don't
know what he asking for. You know, what he asking
for is crazy. I'll just be like, bro, look this
is what I can give you. I'm a I'm a
like like I said the Philadelphia Eagles, they rewarded say
kwam for the year that he had, right what you
(38:59):
call him rewarded Baltimore rewarded who running back?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Then they give him a new deal, you know what
I'm saying. So when people gonna give you a new
DA like you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
But for Washington to do that with Cherry's like, that's
that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So it is what it is. Yeah, I mean, it
is what it is, man. I mean, it don't matter.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
You can change the franchise, but sometimes you can't change
I mean the owners, but you can't change the mentality.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It seemed like that same mentality.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And sometimes and know if no offense to Magic Johnson,
but if you bringing in an ownership group or some mentors,
yeah he can help you on the money side.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
But he ain't old though he been.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
In that locker room all the dynamics of what he
takes to build a foundation in football.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, sometimes people sometimes people get caught.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Up and looking at the numbers and don't realize and
ship that it's shipped that people do off the books
and make those numbers look the way.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
That they do.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Yep, my definite real quick on.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
You said, you said something to me the other day
that made me think on that point, I had to
think about Michael Parson's actions too.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Right, we don't talk about that. What's going what leads
you up to getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars?
It's not just between the lines, it's off the field
as well. Right, we got a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You said it when you first came on the show,
and it I was like, man, what old are all
talking about? I had to think about it. If we
got a playoff game going on? What the hell am
I doing on the podcast? You got all off season
on this podcast? You say so, then you're coming.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
To me like, now you want me to pay you
a quarter of a billion dollars to be the pay
of my franchise, and you.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
And your podcast of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Shot shout out, shout out to gt what's up? What's up?
Gu What he said.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Was right, pay Cherry three years eighty five No, not
eighty five, eighty five million, and then guarantee him about
sixty eight. Okay, I'm cool, that's that's about thirty. You know,
give him thirty, give him sixty or fifty five. You know,
that's what I'm saying. Give him, just give him some
more guaranteed money. That's all you want. And some guaranteed money.
(41:28):
You don't have no more guaranteed money left on his deal.
That's why you that's why players get you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Just give him some more guaranteed money.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
And in the background, yeah, make it look good.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Give him some stupid give him some dumb and centers.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
If you play, if you start every game, you get
an extra five mili you.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Know, do stupid stuff like that. If he lead the
team and receiving yards, that's an extra two and a half.
You know what I'm saying, Like stuff that he know
he gonna that.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
We know he's Yeah, yeah, that won't hit your cap
so much because it's incentives and things.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Like that, you know what I mean. But you know,
like like.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
I said, they sometimes but now if I'm from chariots,
like I don't know if I really even want to go.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
First of all, y'all Washington, y'all facilities suck. Y'all gott
y'all got some of the worst facilities in the National
Football League.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Y'all finish in the top in the worst two Yeah,
y'all just now, y'all got a bubble, But y'all ain't
even got an indoor facility, y'all, y'all cafeteria, it was
in the gym, y'all just redid yall cafeteria. So Washington,
you gotta relax a little bit too, now, y'all for
y'all organization. Yeah, y'all changing, and y'all about to build
this brand new stadium and beautiful stadium.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
But where they practice every day is straight trash.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
And did y'all know Washington Commanders was voted the worst
football field International Football League.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah, the city and then found down last year.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah they got they got Sure's leagueing and stuff.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
The practice facility damn better than the field. The freaking
stated the ball knighter than that ship.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
The bro It had a list of people that done
lost their careers in the Washington stadium, R three Adrian Peterson.
The list go on and on and on, the players
and until the A c L s and in the
Commander Slash Redskins state.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
That's just crazy, right, what what what what girl saying
is is dude, you talking about he looking at a
are you and DK contracts you?
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
But where they where Washington really.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Messed up was they should have fucking traded for are
you last year, two years ago and got so that
way Jaden could they had his maceiver that he had
in calls, and now you would have paid him, you
know what I'm saying. Now you already had Terry on
the joint. You can let Terry go now, you now
when you trade Terry, if he's saying he wants, go ahead,
(44:05):
go about your business because we already got somebody that's
rocking with him, that's already been you know what.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so but now they put
themself behind the eight ball.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
But anyway, I ain't about to keep talking about no
Washington Redskins, no Washington.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
What y'all got? What we got? What's that? Oh? The fight?
What we think about the fight coming up? Man? But
Croft and and uh Canelo.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
It's uh well, we got a month about a month
and a half away.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
It's September, the September the thirteen twelve.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
Got just less than a month, Yeah, just lasted what what?
What what we're thinking? What you guys thinking?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I'm I like, I like Budd.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
I mean, I think this is a fight that is
gonna you know, I think he now Panelo is a
lot bigger guy.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Paul but.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
You know, I like the fact that he is going
at least going to try to fight him, and you
know what I'm saying, and trying to get, you know,
trying to get that big fight under this belt. I
think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be dope.
I think it's gonna be dope.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I like it from the standpoint of course, I'm a
Budd Crawford guy. He could be fighting Muhammed and Aliam
rocking with Bud Crawford.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I'm biased. I'm just keeping real.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I grew up like in the sport of boxing. Not literally,
I don't know Bud Crawford, but I grew up with him.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
That's that's my guy, right, So I don't I'm not
even gonna comment on who's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I'm gonna look at the larger picture, right. I think
this is great for the sport of Boston. You got
two fighters that are pretty much in their prime. Window
Canelo a little bit, a little bit maybe on the outside.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Just a little bit, but not not crazy.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
This is what we need in boxing, right, you need
those mega fights a whole Chrissa Shields and Alicia get
it together and they fight. I want all the mega
fighters to fight man as a as an eighties baby.
That's what I grew up watching. Y'all got older than me,
That's what that's all y'all knew like we in this
ducking era. So I'm just good for what it's gonna
(46:29):
do for the sport of Boxton.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
I agree, Man and I and again the thing that
I think is a mist normal and Mo, you can
you can correct them wrong? Is I think old said
it like a lot of people assume that Canelo is bigger.
I think Canelo fights at the heavier weight, but Bud
walks around it that way. So when they when they
standing there right in front of each other, it ain't
no size difference. And I think may I think Crawford
(46:58):
has not the same skill set. It's madeweather, but but
Buck can fight man. Bud is a fighter, you know,
like he ain't just no slugger, but he can get
in there and knock you out. But then he can
also he's technical as all get out. So I think
even though Canelo has a good tin, I think Canelo
is strong. I think when it comes to size and power,
(47:22):
I think Bud is a perfect matchup for him and
he's crafty enough to trap Canelo a little bit. Because Canelo,
he you know, he's gotten better since he's fought in Mayweather.
But Mayweather gave the blueprint to how to beat him. Man,
You just you just put him at angles and force
them for some because he goes, he gonna try to
knock out, and when he go to knockyout he opens
(47:44):
himself up too much for too many calendars and too
many attacks on his body.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Man. So I think it's great for boxing. I think
it's great for boxing.
Speaker 5 (47:51):
I'll tell you what, I'm damned sure gonna If I
don't go, I'm damned sure gonna purchase it.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Tell you that.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
So I don't mind purchasing a fight like that, seeing
that man, seeing that man fight.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
For sure, both of them, both of them, there's one
thing I know about both of them. They gonna fight.
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Yeah, they're gonna, They're gonna, they're gonna box and they're
gonna fight.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
So absolutely, I mean, it's what It's what the sports need, man,
Because like I watched that Carrissa Shields fight. I think
it was two weeks ago now, Man, she put it
on old girl. I'm talking about it. It was a
masterclass in boxing. Nobody knew about it, what I'm saying, Yeah,
I know, I know nobody. You know, we gotta do
(48:32):
better at her undercard. I forgot the fighters, ain't that
forgive me. But they were just as entertaining, the more
entertaining because Carrista Shills really did body that girl. But
at the end of the day, this, this, this will
put a lot of these boxes on the on the mainstream.
I hope the undercard is right. I don't know what
it is. I gotta look at it, but we need more.
(48:53):
Fight boxing is fundamental in every hood in America. You
need to have it. It's not that expensive to get
into some of those gyms, right, I'm pretty sure we
all did it as you.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
It needs to come back in America.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
It's another avenue for African Americans to get up out
of the hood.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
So it needs to get back to what it used
to be.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Hey, well, you know what's crazy.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
Before the fight they talking about Clarician Shills fighting Leila
Ali more than a damn fight that.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Was coming up.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
They was like, you said, they won't even talking and
if they did bring it up, it was dismissal. Well,
we know Claric are gonna go in and handle business.
What we're thinking about you getting in the ring with
Laila Lee and the fifteen million dollars and how big
Leayla Lei is and when she come out of retirement,
and you know, like I said, they don't they don't
do a great job of promoting it. But I think
(49:49):
I don't think there's really nobody out there for Claricia Shills.
The fight that the two fighters that Jake Paul had
on his fight, those are the two ladies that she
said that, you know, once she gets through this one,
I think she talking about having a baby or something
and then she's like, you know, if one of those
two ladies want to step up and fight her. You know,
I think she said the one that lost the fight
(50:10):
is a little bit more technically sound, but the one
that won, you know, of course, she gotta give honor
to her because she wanted and she's the you know,
defending title holder.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
But I don't think there's nobody out there for man.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
So it's hard because everybody dismisses anybody that she goes against,
and even they liked that fight. But I think she's
what three class three weights above Alsa Bumgarden and.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Her we didn't even hear nothing about her fight. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
It was a good fight too. I think it was
the undercard on one of them.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
It was the undercard on that on that Jake Paul
and she had just signed with him as a partner
and they didn't even promote her ship, which was crazy.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
I think they can meet in the middle with those
weight classes, because I think.
Speaker 6 (50:52):
She said she said she would come down to fifty four,
but she ain't going there no farther than that.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
She said, Alyssa gotta come up.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
I think Alissa could.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
She could definitely come up, especially you know, I see
ages and that would be an eleble fight.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
That would be a mega fight, that would be on.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Par with the men, just because they are in the
class of of women's boxing. But on that yeah, she
should fight realmy Mom on paper through I mean based
off what I see with this last fight.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
I ain't never seen real Mom fight.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
But man, she don't want no parts of Carrisa Shields
Street fight in there. It don't map Carrisa Shields is uh?
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Is she about that?
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Because I've seen her switch up two to three styles
in that fight.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
She went from a brawler to a defender.
Speaker 5 (51:35):
It was it was it was nice man, Like I said,
if anybody get a chance, it's free.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Now you go on YouTube and watch it.
Speaker 6 (51:42):
But you got some talking about and that's what she
was talking about. She was saying that they got on
her for knocking people out. Then they said she didn't
have no skills. So she said, now when she bought,
she has to show a little bit of both because
they they dinger for doing one or more of the other.
So she said, I gotta show I got some power
and I gotta show I got some skill. So she said,
I'm just out there putting on the show. But back
(52:02):
to that Remy mast They hey, man, Remy like, oh
said Remy from the streets, Clarisia from the streets. But
I tell you what, hey, Clarissa love herself. So popoop
what's his name? Po poos? When she was speaking about
that dude, man, she's then crying about that dude.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Man.
Speaker 6 (52:20):
That dude doesn't changed her life. Man, So I don't
think Mama wanted to deal with that. And now you
lost that one.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Let him go.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
At the end of the day, any man that's willing
to hold a woman down is out there, but that
long as long as he helped the man that respecting him,
salute him. And if he's still walking in that light,
she got a real one. Remy mar fumbled the bag
with poos.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Hey what y'all?
Speaker 5 (52:47):
Hey, not switching up topics a little bit. We also
are less less than a month away from the kickoff
of college football.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
Mm hmmm mmmm excited man August thirty first, Like, we
talked about these games, man, we we we were three
weeks away. Mm hmmm, Man, I can't wait.
Speaker 6 (53:15):
So oh so oh, Money wasn't on the last on
the last show, So can we get your your thoughts
money on?
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Oh yeah, schedule on the week one schedule on that
you got you? Can you look up to the other game? Well, Money,
can you look the games up for the thirty first?
Speaker 6 (53:32):
Let me look it up really quick? And then it
just released. Week two gonna be a monster.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Of them games.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
Man, Well you know what.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Hell, while I'm looking at while I'm looking it up,
I'm gonna get you all my opinion on that while
I'm looking up Week one, right, I think the college
football playoffs allows us to get games like this because
in the past they didn't always schedule these powerhouses was
running from each other like boxing.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
The way that is out now I love it. Yeah,
let's see.
Speaker 6 (54:07):
And I think and I think old touchdown the last
week they got to schedule it that way more because
the schedule come back to hauntum at the end of
everybody crying like yo, I played such and such. No,
you your strength of your strength of schedule was a two.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
So so I guess.
Speaker 5 (54:23):
So the games we talked about was the first one
was Ohio State obviously in Texas. Yeah, give me Texas, okay,
you know, you know it's not it's not on the
neutral grounds at the Horseshoe.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
And who the quarterback for Oio State?
Speaker 4 (54:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Exactly, give me, give me.
Speaker 5 (54:46):
You know, I got you, so okay, then then you
got I think.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Then it was ls. The second game was U L
s U and Clampson l C.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
Yeah, I like.
Speaker 5 (55:02):
Clinton quarterback is a Heisman Trophy, uh, you know, contender
this year. So so so it's Clemson's club kneck.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
I'm talking about L s U. I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (55:17):
And L s Us what's his name, Housman or looseman
or something. He's one of them dudes. That's in the talks.
I don't know if he's up there, but they both
have Hosmond contenders.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
So I'm gonna go with k just because of number ten.
I think it's ten to either ten or one from Clemson.
The wide receiver. He should be a first round pick.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
I have to look up.
Speaker 5 (55:39):
And then we got and then we got uh, Ohio State,
I mean Florida State.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Alabama, Man, Floyd. Every year, I'm gonna be easy real
with y'all.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Every year I put money.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Down on Florida State, and I don't know, but for
the last two years, don't you know?
Speaker 1 (55:58):
I got my money two years?
Speaker 6 (56:00):
Go man, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
I don't need to come back and put the mute
button on himself. He set himself off of that and
then walked off.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
I'm a realistic person.
Speaker 5 (56:14):
He's got to tell him the games. I ain't gonna
not tell him the games. That's the game, man. I'm
going to Alabama.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Hey, unlet's Bobby Bell, Chris Week, Charlie Ward, the War
the wart.
Speaker 5 (56:33):
We do got a nice little transfer. They say you've
been throwing the ball around pretty good.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
But I don't know, man. We'll see and they say
that crap every year. And then you get DJ l
or whatever his name was, great crazy, then you got
then you.
Speaker 5 (56:50):
Got uh who else? Oh, Miami Notre Dame. That's the
late game, Miami Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Well that's gonna be that's that might be the game
of the night, man, because.
Speaker 6 (57:05):
So Miami got uh what's his name Carson back at
quarterback and they got a defense that that should be toubable.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
But know the day, bro he man?
Speaker 1 (57:20):
I mean, and where is it at?
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Though?
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Where is it at? I don't know. You have to
look on your h Let me look, let me look
it up.
Speaker 4 (57:27):
Let me look it up.
Speaker 5 (57:28):
That's a good question. I'm going with the home team
on that one. Whoever at home plus cocaine calp for.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Uh Man. The way esp ain't do the schedule, it's crazy. Yeah,
it's somewhat I had.
Speaker 5 (57:54):
I had a little being in my phone. I don't
know if I sent it. I thought I had put
it in the group check.
Speaker 6 (57:59):
I think it should it should be in the group chat.
I think I put it in the group chat. Let
me let me see if I can pull it up.
Speaker 4 (58:06):
I don't know how to do it without If I
if I cut off. I'll be right back on.
Speaker 5 (58:12):
Okay, did y'all talking about the housing the trophy potentials?
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah, yeah, a little bit. This game.
Speaker 5 (58:27):
It's some it's it's some good games week won man.
I'm glad it's back to this. It was getting it
was getting bad for a little while. The conferences is
a little weird though. Oh this it looks like it's
in Miami. Looks like, yeah, I'm going Miami. You're gonna
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go to Miami, just just because they and then they
got they got Baylor. I think the late game is better.
Oh no, No, Colorado played Georgia Tech. But that's when
I think they played Friday night. Look look out for.
Speaker 6 (59:07):
That's the uh, that's the seven o'clock game.
Speaker 4 (59:11):
Uh, that's the game before the youth we were talking about.
Speaker 5 (59:14):
The Yeah, and in Utah maybe is you and then
Utah played b y U or Utah played somebody at
the end of the night.
Speaker 4 (59:21):
U c l A U c l A Yeah, la man.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
I'm gonna put it. I'm gonna tell you all the
team to look out for this year.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
Maybe because I went to a couple of their practices
when I was home the South. The game cops man
Ladarius Sellers is a good quarterback and he got a
couple of wide receivers that if they just hang on
to the ball, South Carolina has a chance.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
They're not gonna win the National.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
Championship, but they have a chance to scare some people
this year. They got a pretty good defense and they
definitely have a really good offense.
Speaker 4 (59:55):
The only reason I.
Speaker 2 (59:55):
Got to see they practice because I done paid them
a lot of money this year.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
But that's when my son going at the n this
end of this month.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
So, hey, what you say about against Virginia Tech? Who
I like?
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
South?
Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
What you think about I know I'm jumping around, But
what you think about this backup quarterback? Y'all gotten guy? Man?
I think I think the young man has potential.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
He just needs to hone his skills, work on his craft,
learn to playbook, work on his accuracy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
But he got a cannon. I mean, he got a
thing that only God can give.
Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
You the ability to flick your wrists and throw the
ball eighty of you see that ball he threw today
or yesterday, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Yes, go.
Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Hey, I like it because if you all miss.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
That's the way you missed.
Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
You overthrow him I'd rather you overthrow him than underthrown.
Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
Yeah, And I like it because he gonna put he
gonna make that tightening shut up. Because what's his name,
Josh Milton or something Milton, Yeah, Joe Milton. The dude
can play, man, He can play, and he got some
wheels on him too.
Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
And it's just a coach.
Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
You remember, this remind you of Quincy Carter.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Quincy Carter.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Sometimes which is sometimes not.
Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
He said he won't he won't, he won't win them light,
but he could get you in trouble.
Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
But he get you in the hole.
Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
Boy, he'll throw you into some trouble. But he definitely
got an arm on him. And I just think it's
good competition for Dak Man. I think Dak gotta go
earn his money.
Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
I know, you know, I ain't gonna keep power on.
Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
The Cowboys, but I think they got too much talent
man to be underperforming. And it's hard to say they're underperforming.
It's just when they get into the games that matter,
they don't show up. And that's that's the part that's
disappointed as a fan.
Speaker 8 (01:01:53):
You know, it's put it all together, you know what
coach Like I said me and Old Dog was lesson
for me because he gave me a different respective on football.
Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
And one of the things Old Dog told me a
long time ago was about quarterback talent.
Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Because I was the same way, right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
So we put all these quarterbacks into the same category,
right they not when they come out in the draft.
Some are first rounders, some are second rounders, third and
so on. It ain't a whole lot of Tom Brady's
out there. These guys that go in the first round.
Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
God gave them a little bit more talent, actually a
lot more talent than the Dak Prescotts of the world.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
So this is my opinion based off you know, well
old Dog told me. I started thinking about it made sense.
I think Dak will maximize his God giving ability and
he don't have no more to give. It's up to
the Cowboys to raise their loveable play. But as far
as you know, Dallas not being as talented. It come
down to first round quarterbacks. And I thought about it.
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Y'all tell them if I'm wrong. If you look at
the history of the game, how many teams win Super
Bowls without a first or second round quarterback?
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
And damn it don't happen.
Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Not not that men, you don't find too many because
even if they are first rounders and say they didn't
play well at that particular team that drafted them, you know,
and they go to another team. For instance, Trent Dilford,
he still was the first top you know, top two,
top five pick, you know, you know, even though we
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did just get one last year, win one jail the
Hurst in the second round.
Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
You know. So it does happen. But like I tell
people all the time, like we can't.
Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
You can't, like people get drafted to these organizations and
you know, some people go to good teams.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Some people go to teams and they don't understand.
Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
You you, sometimes going a little later is putting you
in a better situation, right you know.
Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
So the only the only thing that I'll have pushed
back on that is is again I'm not I mean,
I watched that play in college, you know, so I
knew what they were getting when they got him, and
I thought he was perfect for the situation.
Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Okay, but did you did you?
Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Okay, hold on and say you said you watched him
playing college? Which which college are you talking about? When
he was in Alabama? Are you talking about when he
was in Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Who Dak?
Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Oh my bad?
Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
That okay, I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
I'm talking about that. I'm talking about that you watched.
Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
So you watched that. You watched Dak Prescott playing.
Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
In Mississippi State at Mississippi State played Alabama because he
ain't no, I'm like, what channel did he play?
Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Like I ain't.
Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
I wanted I want him play a couple of games.
I watched him play a couple of games because he
was he was out there. And then there was another
cat because Mississippi State had another dude before him that
got hurt before Dak came in that year. So Mississippi
State was one of those dudes that because it was
a white, big white running quarter they had before Dak
got there the year before that, before he went before
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he went in to the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
So Mississippi State was one of them teams.
Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
That was you know, they were there was one of
them what do you call them night matchup nightmares against
certain teams, and so you know, you were catching him
on a couple of games here and there just because
they were feeling some talent. But watching Dak play not
only at Mississippi State but when he came in, like
I thought he earned the role. I just felt like
he fell off after he got the money. Now, I've
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always been a Dak fan because I'm like he fits
and then they put the pieces around him right, and again,
I'm not expecting Dak to go out here. And I
felt like when they got Jason Garrett, I think that
hurt Dak a little bit, kind of like they were
saying with and I'm not gonna you know again because
we already talked about Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Jalen Hurts is a winner, and I feel Dak was
a winner.
Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Jason who is who did d Prescott get drafted to? Jayson? Uh? Jason?
Who's the court? Who's the head coach? He was?
Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Jason Garrett was the head coach. Jason.
Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
I don't understand what you mean by when they got
Jason Garrett. That's the ones who are not.
Speaker 6 (01:06:08):
Saying I'm saying, I said, Jason Garrett hurt that personal
because they kept putting them in past like when you
get a kid that again, you're trying to put them
in situations I believe in not everybody fits the system, right.
You gotta put the kids, you gotta put these guys
in situations that fit their skill set. Dak is not
a drop back and throw fifty fucking times a game.
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You got a running back back there that you got
to handle the ball. And I felt like they just
leaned on Dak a little bit too much to throw
them in and out of situations trying to prove that
again kind of like I don't know, kind of like
the dude over in Baltimore, like sometimes you don't need
to prove these dudes that you can throw the ball.
Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Just win the game. Make the play, like.
Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
Put it in a put it in a situation where
we have a winning play, where it fits the skill
set that is on the field. And I just felt
like they got past Happy Jason Garrett and they kept
put them in those situations where you got a running
back back. Then Ezekel Elliott. You know again, I don't
give a shit if you know you run it. And
I think me and Oh we talked about it. We
kind of went back at it when I was saying
when Baltimore was playing somebody, I'm like, man, you got
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fucking you got your quarterback. They can fuck the running
air the ball you got Derek Henry, goddamn it, I'm
running the ball every time.
Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
And I'm gonna tell you my money until you fucking
stop me.
Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
I'm not gonna keep putting the passes in these receivers
hands because at the end of the day, the quarterback
got an answer for the ship that these dudes dropping
the ball.
Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
And again, I know you got to mix it up, but.
Speaker 6 (01:07:33):
If I got a thousand yard rusher, I got two
of them back there with goddamn it, you can't stop
both of us. And so for me with Ezekiel Elliott
and and and uh.
Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
That, I just felt like they put him in bad situation.
Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
So am I expecting him to do anything outside of
the norm? No, but goddamn it, show up and you know,
And I don't know if I'm wrong for saying I
know he's had some injuries. I know he's not the
same guy that he was before that the ankle injury
and whatever else he had. I just feel like, I
don't know. Well, I'll say this this year is going
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to show a lot about him and the Cowboys all together,
because again you say, Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Dak is not the number one.
Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
He's not a number one guy, So why the hell
Jerry Jones didn't go out and at least talked to
Derrick Henry. That's one of the best running backs that
was out there. He was in Texas. I know y'all
can't answer that, but to me, that's just dumb shit. Right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
But to answer that question, we go back to dollars
and cents.
Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Right, If you look at I don't know the dynamics
of the coaching and who because it's politics. Right, If
you look at it, if Rigodald would a guy the
carries that he needed to get because you gotta think
Jerry at every practice he see who running the ball, Right,
Rico Dallad's production wasn't that far off of Derrick Henry
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for the moneyed Right, If Dear'reck getting ten Ricodald getting
one point five, I just saved eight million dollars. That's
what it comes down to. Sometimes it's dollars and cents.
But with Dak Prescott, my point is Dak can win
you games. So can Kirk Cousins. They're both for fourth
round quarterbacks. What separates a.
Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
First round quarterback from a fourth round quarterback is intangibles.
Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Right, You got to think about the pressure.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Right, This guy that's a first round quarterback, more likely
he was a four or five star recruit. The guy
been the guy since elementary. He been dealing with pressure.
He knows how to walk that walk. The guy us
a fourth round quarterback. He may have had some adversity,
he overcomes some things, but he just don't have that
guy giving that guy given ability and he just don't.
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He missing something. That's why he slipped to the fourth round.
He's talent evaluators. They're not that incompetent or they wouldn't
have a job.
Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
So it's something missing, and that something missing is the
difference between them making a play and not making a play.
Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
I think that's what it comes down to. And we
in our eyes don't lie.
Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
You look at Joe Burr and you look at Jalen Hurst,
no disrespect. I know he just won the Super Bowl,
but there's no way you can tell me they're in
the same class with Towna.
Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
No way. You look at Dak Prescott and you look at.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Jalen Hurts when the game is on the line, there's
something that God gave Jalen Hurst that he didn't give
Dak Prescott. They don't have much to do with coaching.
You could put Dak Prescott in the right situation. He
just doesn't have it, right, Like you said, maybe take
the ball out his hand. May me make it easy
for him, but he don't have it because he ain't
shown that he got it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
That's just that's my take on it.
Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
When I talk about first round versus fourth round, take
Tom Brady out the conversation, Tom Brady the trivia answer
for every damn thing.
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
What about Joe? What about it? What about Joe Montana?
Joe Montana too? I mean shit, but that's nineteen eighty
to two thousand. I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
I'm just saying, those are the two, arguably two of
the best quarterbacks that haven't played a game, and they
they was d under the third ramp.
Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
But on top of that, old doll, they played for
two of the best head coaches and systems.
Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Right, And that's what I was.
Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
But that's what I'm trying to say, and I will
continue to tell all our listeners and viewers it don't matter.
Sometimes Wes Walker went to Miami Dolphins. I'm gonna repeat that.
Wes Walker was at Miami returning punts.
Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
He was about to be out the league, the young
the other boy, the Adaman or whatever.
Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
He was instead with the Rams in Saint Louis. Yeah,
I mean, Julian dam I mean it's like you gotta
go to the Sometimes you're blessed to go to the
right system, in the right system and the right coaches
around you to highlight your skill set to make the
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overall team better.
Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
It's what wins.
Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
If I got big offensive lineman and my running backs
ain't in my skill positions, ain't the best. Well, you
know what, we're gonna go sweep right, sweet left power left, power.
Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Right, don't make the foot don't make the game harder
than what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
Yeah, I personally when Dak Prescott played against the Green
Bay Packers in that NFC of I don't know, I
forgot what Johnny was. They lost, but I thought Dak
Prescott played pretty well and he made some big time throws.
That's why I get on Lamar Jackson so much. It's
not that I'm not rute. I root for Lamar more
than I'm not a Baltimore fan. But I root for
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him all the time because I want to see him
do well. But Lamar got him eventually. Coach Milt talking
about yeah, okay, well you're gonna have to run and
run man, you ain't running in no playoffs like that.
You gotta eventually because what happens is the same thing
that would won the Super Bowl for the Philadelphia Okay,
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everybody thought Sakwan was gonna run.
Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Okay, now we're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
We're gonna put nine in the box, or we're gonna
put eight in the box. Now what you're gonna do.
We're gonna force you to throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
So it's gonna come to a point in a in
a in a big time game, like you're saying money mowhere,
You're gonna have to play quarterback and you're gonna have
to make some throws in a tight window. Lamar, whether
it's Lamar Jackson or who or Joey d or whoever
the case may be. Because what happens is the good
defensive coordinators and the good coaches will take away from
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you what you do best. I put Instead of putting
one spy on Lamar, We're gonna put two spies on
the mark.
Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (01:13:40):
You any of Baltimore receivers really feel like, can I
go out and party?
Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Yeah, I'm out. I'm not worried about d Hop no more.
He slow.
Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
That's true, he's slow, he he ain't fat. You know,
if I'm a young corner, if I'm anna Pete Patrick sertain,
I'm not worried about him.
Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Who am I worried about? What receivers? Am I worried about?
Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
In Baltimore, they gotta say, I'm not worried about Bateman
Flowers playing the slot? So we can we can double
team him with a with a nickel in a in
a in a in a wheel lineback right, he playing
in the slot, Yeah, he gonna be, He gonna play,
he gonna do whatever in the slot. He might he
might win his matchup. The bottom line is when I
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when we're talking about football, how you win NFL games?
Is you the team that wins more individual battles will
win the game.
Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Period. It's just that simple. So if coach Millon want
to run the ball all day and he's a running team, cool.
Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
No problem.
Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
If money Mode you're a passing team, we're gonna drop
back and we're gonna play. We only gonna rush four
go ahead, and we're gonna force you to force you
to get you gonna drive all the way down to
the field and in the red zone.
Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
You're gonna be kicking field goal. That's how some decoordinators think.
I've literally been in de.
Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
Courting, whether it's at Ohio State with Mike Rable when
he was the decordinator assistant head coach. That's sometimes what
they're saying. Okay, we're going against Wisconsin. They got this
young boy tune his son. He can fly out boogie. Okay,
when he go to this side, we're gonna roll covers
to him. When we go backside. Hey, Shay's ear, you
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gonna you're gonna, you know, you're gonna, You're gonna whatever,
get get appalled. You're gonna get underneath all in and
rob all inside routes.
Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
So you it's it's it's a game. It's a chess game.
But what happens is eventually, when you're playing in the playoffs,
those windows get even smaller and a quarterback is going
to have to I don't care. Jayleen Hurst just showed
us he had to make some throws. Look at the
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throws and look at the placement of the ball on
those throws. He had the boy from Washington looking good.
And they've got rid of and they've got rid of
the receiver.
Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
You don't even know who he was. He was a
first round pick. He didn't last three years money Moe.
They got rid of him after two seasons. The boy
out of Penn State, he go to Philadelphia. He catching
fade routes for touchdowns and the N zone. What did
we just talk about, all three of us. It talks
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about sometimes when you get in the place and you
go to a situation and a team that knows how
to use your skill set trouve.
Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
I mean Russell Wilson. Okay, yeah we can. We can
talk about it in basketball football no matter what. Non
be Austome was. He go to Philly, he leave, he
leaves Oakland, come to Philly, Philly played. You know, they
mix it up. He lost when it comes to playing
Cover two twenty two man and Cover three, Cover four.
Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
He like, man, I'm a man, the man guy, I'm
a cat.
Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah what am I what? I don't run with him.
Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
I gotta stand here and look and play zone and wait,
I gotta play I gotta play off technique?
Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
Alvin Hainesworth is another one. Okay, that's my point. Sometimes
you know it just goes to you know, where where
your team and where you go. Sometimes some of these
quarterbacks are blessed to go with great situations. You know,
is the quarterback from Carolina? Is he gonna be a
bus As much as we say the quarterbacks that are
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first rounders, they got that it factor.
Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Well a lot of.
Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
Them first rounds sometimes don't pan out too good. Right,
So will yeah, will know how this year.
Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Test six five or a six seven Wings fan if
he if he overthrow him?
Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
I agree. Oh though, it's time to look again because
you got yeah, so you know it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
But the bottom line is, like I said, I'm happy
for all these players because I look at.
Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
It like this money Moe. Just like if you if
you was the one.
Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
That was cutting the checks, if coach Miller coach was
cutting the checks. If I can cut you a check
for sixty, then so what they're the ones that's getting
the brand I'm cut Yeah, I'm paying him sixty? Yeah, okay,
So how much am I bringing in? If I can
cut him a check for sixty and don't lose no sleep?
Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Hey fa on that on that note? Or you see
they just an NFL just signed. They just bought uh
they just uh bought Uh what's the red zone package?
Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
And all that shit. They just solidified that deal this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
Man, it's a billion wall. It's no, it's no. And
you think they worried about the cherryman. Listen, it's a
terryman right now at Ohio State in Alabama, it's another one.
So that's why for the players, you got to say,
you gotta get your money while you can, right, You
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gotta get your money while you can, while you hot.
You gotta go big. You gotta go big. You ain't
gonna have too many owners. It's gonna show you love
and take care of you. So it is what it is.
It's all about what have you done for me? Later
and even and even then they might not give you your break.
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
My boy, that's the one from Maryland. That's one. What's up?
I think that's my man one. What's up?
Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
One?
Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
University? I think that's one.
Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
If that's my man, the one I could fly boogie
University of Maryland wide Receiver.
Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
I don't know if that's him, that might be somebody else.
Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
But if that's the Won Jones that went to Roosevelt
High School, fly out buggie, but once again he go
to University of Maryland, he coming in. If that's the
Wonn Jones, I don't know if that's him, Is that him?
Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Then what's so I'm about to I'm about to put
you on blast.
Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
So Wan go to University of Maryland right after Jermaine Lewis,
right after man Cell Johnson. So he a part of
that crew that you know what I'm saying, is going
just about to go crazy with Scott Milanovich and them quarterback.
That's when Maryland was one of the first ones with
that super duper spread, fast offense. Well, coach Duffliner, who
(01:20:27):
I'm good friends with to this day, and I'm gonna
put it in the group. I should put it on show.
Y'all Me and Mark Dufflin. A lot of y'all don't know.
Me and Mark Dufflin are still good friends to this day.
University of Maryland had football coach, Yeah win you already
know so, but one goes there, Mark Duffler gets fired.
(01:20:49):
They bringing a new coach, change up the whole offense.
Now you gotta wire man Cell Johnson. He ain't have
to worry about it because man, he was getting ready leaved.
He only had one more year. Wine got three more
years left. Situation right.
Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Sometimes, But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Sometimes you go into these situations and it ain't always
the player, it ain't always and it's not always the coaches.
Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
For he didn't recruit one one, A fourth one running
four two, he on he on want of the him
and Jermaine Lewis man Cell Johnson. They just finished running
up at the pen relays, number one high school track team,
in the top five in the country. He get to Maryland.
Now you got him stalk blocking. He fo he faster
(01:21:40):
than everybody in the stadium. But you want to move,
you want him to stalk block.
Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
You. You gonna too, You're gonna double tight ends to
ide receive I for major with somebody that that's faster
than half of people in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
That's what I'm saying. Something.
Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
So sometimes you don't know. You know what I'm saying.
Sometimes you don't know. You gotta get with a coach,
you gotta get with a system.
Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
You gotta go. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
Because if that presscott goes to if that presscott messages
with Andy Reid, you think you don't think he gonna
be a better quarterback?
Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Absolutely, Okay, Then That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Well on that point, Oh, before we wrap it up,
do you think it's advantageous sometime as a player to
take a pay cut to stay where you at or
to chase the break?
Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
I think it's I think if I already got my money, yeah,
if I've if I already got my my if I've
been blessed to get too big deal.
Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
You want to always try to get too big deals
if you can't.
Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
But if I've already got that super duper crazy deal
in my fine and my finances are right, and I
don't mind taking a pay cut, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
You know, you know everybody's different me.
Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
If you actually personally, I'm simple, You're talking to somebody
I don't care how much money I'm white teasing air
Max and bucket hats.
Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
I ain't never been in the Valenciagos and Murray Murry's
and Christy I can't even spell that ship.
Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Why am I wearing?
Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
They don't want me, They don't want niggas in excuse
my language, they don't want black folks into stuff anyway.
Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Yeah, But.
Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
With that being said, I respect all of those in
the fashion and love, you know, love what they do.
That's that's that's with them. But me personally, I want
to win. I want to win.
Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
So if I got to take two, if I got
to take you know, two million less or million, like
I said, it all depends if I've already gotten.
Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
My big deal.
Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
But if I got if I got my big deal already,
and we're saying, well, hey, oh I know you up man.
We're trying to bring money mode back to be that
to be the number three corner. You know, you need
three solid corners. You and coach Milton already locked in.
Hey man, you know, would you man, what we gotta do.
Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
To keep it? Let's get it done.
Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
You know what I'm saying, what we gotta do because
that's that's the type of person I am. But everybody,
I get it. Everybody not like that. You gotta get
your money when you can. Now, would I have done
that if I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Going on my first deal? Absolutely not. My boy, oh
Man Morgan probably watching this joint.
Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
When I had a chance to sign in Montreal and
instead of staying in Saskatchewan, I man, they gave me that,
And I'm the type of person, and I would I
hope Old Washington. I put Oh on the phone with
the general manager because oh was my veteran. And when
we got off the phone, I let him listen to
the whole conversation. He said goodbye.
Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
He said, you'd be a damn fool to stay in
Saskatchewe will Montreal offering you that type of money. He
said bye, He said, don't don't eve, he said, matter
of fact, get off my phone.
Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
Hung the phone.
Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
So my point is, sometimes you gotta have that type
of you know, you gotta have that type of but
don't be loyal to a fault because you know the
team ain't gonna be loyal to you. Yeah, but if
we're gonna we got a chance to go win the
super Bowl, and I get a chance to play with
coach Milton, who I've been playing with three years, and
money more who I've been playing and we know how
(01:25:25):
to man We switching stuff in you know whereas to
the point.
Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Where we ain't even got to think about it.
Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
We can do.
Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
We all we got to do is look to each
other and put it and go like this, And we
know what that means. You know what I'm saying like that,
that's you know, that's gonna make us fly around and
go out and make play. So if I gotta take
you know, a little bit of a pay cut, coach Miller,
so we can keep that nucleus together for a little bit,
then I'm all for that. That's that's just me. That's
(01:25:53):
just now, that's just me money more, that's just me.
Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
After I got that. Hey, but you know who did
that in real life? Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Michale Bridges.
Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
They left thirty five million dollars on the table, Yeah,
to play with each other.
Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
Yeah, then Bridges didn't Bridges get didn't Bridges just get
a contract earlier.
Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
For one twenty five he could have gotten. Yeah, I
got more, and we know Jalen could have got more,
way more. But he left money on the table to
sign Josh Hart.
Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
So that's my point, Like like said the comfort man,
when you can when you call and you can play
this ship play thoughtless. Man, I know what's gonna happen
over here if I do this and and he know
what's Hey, everybody flying around having a good time, and
you know you got each other's back.
Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Come on, man, Sincinnati's gonna be there.
Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
But man, since now we might lose every game, but
damn in on offense, we're gonna be fun to watch. Yes,
watch you know a A one you should have been
playing with my man, Joey Bart.
Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (01:26:59):
Now one one could flat out doing one. We appreciate
you watching the show. Brother, I miss you, brother, love you.
Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Man. He was one was like a o G to
me when I was.
Speaker 5 (01:27:09):
When I should have been in school, But I'm up
at University of Maryland campus hanging out with him. I'm
a junior in high school. Good little because your fault.
You know what I'm saying. But no, that's uh. He
was him and man Sell them boys was but and Darnielle.
All them boys they playmakers. They know them boys had
the mob man. They could they could fly out fly man.
(01:27:32):
I mean all three of them, all world track stars
and on the Roosevelt football team. Then all three of
them went to University of Maryland. One was the class
of ninety two, one was a class in ninety three,
and one was a class of ninety four. All three
of them University of Maryland track stars. Four bout one
relay team and you got them and you got him
(01:27:55):
running stock on a tall suite, said man Wan, if
you on transfer and go play somewhere our west where
they throw the ball forty times, you already know.
Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Hey, real quick get said, he hopes that Terry get
his money too. I think that go back to old point.
Terry got shorter on the first deal because of his
draft status. So yeah, it's time for him to get
his bread. We all agree with that. We all agree
it's time.
Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
No question, no question, fellas, is there anything on your
mind as we get ready to wrap this thing up.
Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
That's then I want to and listeners to know. That's it, man.
Speaker 5 (01:28:36):
We just let him know we appreciate y'all watching tuning in.
Please subscribe once again, it costs you nothing on all
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Tell a friend and tell a friend.
Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
We are not just a sports show. We talk about everything.
Speaker 5 (01:28:55):
We've had everybody on here, so we once again we
just want I just want to say and say from us.
Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Hey man, we appreciate it. That's just me saying, hey,
we appreciate y'all. You already know that.
Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
On that note, thank you everybody for tuning in. One GT.
Kobe you'll be back next week.
Speaker 5 (01:29:15):
One call my phone. Man call me sometime. Damn well, coach,
you got anything.
Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Hey, Man as always, Man, respecting honor. Man y'all. Y'all dudes,
be good. Man. Appreciate everybody watching Z Slut
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