TNCSSP S4 EP 168 - Sports Talk

Join TNCSSP as we discuss current sports events!!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, this is till a counter am and I want
to welcome you to a sports experience elect no occup.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
You announce it down to the No Cap Sports Show
with sports and.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Co hosts Collide, authentic, unapologetic, no head, no.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Let the car vote begin, no count.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Welcome to the No Cat Sports Show with sports and
cor Hos Colide.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I'm your host of Cobra.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm your host more money. I'm not no host, I'm
a guest. I'm coach. Oh aka old dog? What's up?

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Fellas nigga? You host? Man?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
What's how going on? Are you doing to day man? Today?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Man? Podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Day? You know? Yeah, sir? Good?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Get us over the hump?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah? What's good? What? Nothing? Much? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
How you feeling y'all good?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, how you feeling on day?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
I get like that with money more.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I couldn't, man, I don't come in in and out?
What's up? What he say? I ain't know who you're
talking to? Who are you talking to? Is it me? You're
talking talking about me?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
We're talking? Oh? I asked you what the weather like
out there? A Z is still hot the ship?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, it's gonna be. It's hot.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
To tell it's hot October.

Speaker 7 (02:02):
Okay, so we just we just were just getting started
being hot. Okay, yeah, it's hot. It's it's hot till October. Bro,
I ain't even don't need to add that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
So more money.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
You might notice because I keep seeing it popping up,
pop out, and I don't know if there's true or not,
but it's Jake Paul scheduled to fight Tank Davis.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Did they agree for I saw that?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Or is that? Or is that?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Is that fake news?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
That ain't fake? Ain't that's real?

Speaker 8 (02:39):
Like and well, you know it's preliminary, so you know,
he can still get canceled because it's still kind of
you know, but yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Damn what you think about that.

Speaker 8 (02:51):
It just depends on if Javonte Davis doing it for
the bag or he doing it for the sport. If
he's doing it for the sport, he gonna beat Jake Paul.
Last's gonna be pretty Oh yeah, man, A lot of them,
even with the size difference, right, Like any true boxer

(03:11):
will tell you if you're fighting another non boxer like
he ain't on that level, size really don't matter. Like
Davante Davis, Nah, he'd be he'd be fighting tomato cans
and in old folks like he hasn't fought an actual
certified you know goon with those hands. He's fighting guys

(03:34):
that are older or they're just laying down for him,
you know.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, damn yeah, I saw it. I was like, man,
this this is ai something like that.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
I thought.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I was thinking, like, there's no way take David was
gonna fight this joker, you know what I mean? So, Wow,
it's good or bad for boxing because it's kind.

Speaker 6 (03:56):
Of like, why would why would you why would you
not think that if he just got Mike Tyson thirty
million dollars and Mike Tyson ain't even have to swim.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Now, I get that, but you're talking about somebody that's
still pretty much in their prime, top of the top
of the sport, and it's a serious fighter right now,
and he's the number one draw in in real boxing.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
I mean, why would he have to take a fight
like that?

Speaker 6 (04:23):
And kind of just because no matter how much money
he gonna get as being a real fighter and fighting
one of these other guys, he's not gonna bring as
much money as Jake Paul gonna bring in no matter
who he fights.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
True, what about the being a respectable box that I mean,
he looked at it like I'm a respectable boxer.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Every time I look at my account.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
I could care less what Coach, Omar, Coach and Kobe
think about me.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Care about y'all. I'm somewhere in the south of France, Chick.
I did what I had to do. I don't care.
He's looking at generational wealth. Now, that's fact. Hold up
a great point.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
But also you gotta think Tank walked away like he's retired.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
He's not.

Speaker 8 (05:12):
He's not fighting actively right now. He walked away from
the sport. He put that out there on Twitter, on
the social media accounts. He says he's done with boxing,
so right now, in that sense, he's really no difference
than any other fighter.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
That that Jake Paul has fault. He's a retired fighter. Okay,
I don't agree. I don't agree with it. But if
he I can get somewhere.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
They said, they said that he will easily this will
easily be the.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Most watched whatever fight in the last however many years.

Speaker 6 (05:47):
That's more than Bud Crawford canello all them.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
So I don't.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
Agree with it at all, But I don't agree with
a lot of stuff. A lot of these young guys
do nowadays to get the bag. But you know who
am I to tell them how to how to feed
this plan? Right?

Speaker 8 (06:05):
I just hope he fight for real, like, don't lay
down for him, like actually we don't do what I hope.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
I hope he fighting, really show him that I'll be
on not throw bunches and stuff like that, like what
Mike did that that was back?

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Man, all right, man, I might watch it.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
It might not.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
That's one of them fights. I might just wait till
the highlights come on YouTube. Man, I just don't want
I don't want to see Tank in that position.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Man.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I know he's gonna get paid. I get it, I
get that, but I just don't. I just don't like
when a real serious boxer, somebody that's gonna go down.
It's one of one of our greats in the sport,
you know, go in the ring and fight this clown.
Even though he's still gonna get He's probably gonna get
the most money he's ever got in a fight in

(06:57):
his career.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's a the Kobe. I didn't mean to cut you off,
but let me ask you something.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Is he really wanted. Is he really one of your breaks?
He's not nowhere near one of mine.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
I'm just saying his era, he's going to go there
when you talk about like you know, like basketball, dude, Uh,
they had the top fifty, then they had the top
seventy five. So if boxing did something similar to that,
his name would be he would be part of that group.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
Right right, yeah, yeah, yeah for for for his error,
no question, but absolutely, but one of the breaks not
even close. Don't nowhere therelers nowhere near the Higlers or
the Sugar Rays or the or the or the or
Madweth not. Well, no, we're not gott it that even

(07:49):
Ye we're not even bringing up his name, like I'm
not even bringing up Leonard. Yeah, like we don't even
need to bring up his like that's not even a question.

Speaker 8 (08:02):
But Kobe, you know the problem with boxing, right, like
the fighters, if you really look at it. A good
friend of mine told me a long time ago, there's
only about ten to fifteen mega fights a boxer gonna
get in their lifetime. And that's if they're lucky, right,
if that's if they really skill. So and I'm not
counting anybody pockets, Yeah, they get paid, but for what

(08:25):
they do. That's why they have to do stuff like that.
That's why they fighting it in their forties and doing
things like that because they their prime doesn't match the
bags that they getting, right, and then you got these
promoters that be in their pockets. So that's why they
have to do And I believe there'll be more fighters
doing this because the way that the game is rigged now,

(08:46):
they're not really getting those mega bags like they used to.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Right, unless you go fight a Jake Paul Well, he promised,
probably gonna promise this man eighty million dollars or sixty
million something.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Crazy.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
I mean, he got Mike Tyson thirty right, he got
Mike Tyson, a fifty a sixty year old man, thirty
million dollars?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
What you think he what you think he gonna give him?

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's gonna at least double.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, Okay, Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
It's just somebody.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's just somebody.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Needs to be done for him, man, because his division
got some dogs in it.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
I think he's he.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Got some dogs in it, but ain't none of them dogs.
Ain't none of them dogs for you nowhere in here
type of money. He'll have to fight all all those
guys that got dogs in it to equal one fight.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
What he gonna get with that? With that, Jake Paul got.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, you're absolutely right in terms of the money aspect
of it. But if he fight all those dudes and
let's say he whipple, then your opinion might change.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
When you put him man on the all time.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
You're wasting time, man, shut out the toast, tis sauce safe.
But Berverda.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
One of the best chips out give so shout out
to I want to be sponsored tost Tito, he has
the boat.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Shout out the sauce. Some Verder.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Man, when you had a long.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
Day and you want some chips with a little bit
of the dips, get you a sauce, some Verder. Wasting
my time money more talking about him getting wonted man.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Next topic.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Look, that's your opinion. It's a lot of people out
here that will put them in there. I'm just saying, man,
it's all out.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Hold on the topic. I'm just hey, go one thing.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
I'm not trying to change people's mind.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Man.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Everybody have their own.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Man.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
If that's if that's what a lot of people think
out back steakhouse is the is the best steakhouts.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
A lot of people think Texas Road is the best
steak out. Hey, ef you act of what they think?
Who am I?

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Who am I to tell them that the Blooming Onion
and in the Texas row House, you know from Australia,
and that's their steakout, that's what they think.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
They might not they might not like man strolls. They
might not like that.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
He needs take you a little too far? Now, what.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
WHI some people some people like what they like. So
I get you. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
That's a fact. But let's jump let's jump into this
first topic. The line for the Colorado season came out
and uh, they got them at six games, so over under.
I want to know your guys thoughts Colorado over or

(11:53):
under six games this season?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
For me, I got them, I got them over. I
got them at nine.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
The only losses that I can see right now is
b YU Georgia Tech's a toss up because they got
a pretty good team, and the Utah Those are only
ones that I see the rest of them. I could
see them beating Delaware, I could see them beating Houston, Wyoming, TCU.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Iowall stay in Arizona. So I got them at nine.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
So you got Georgia Tech as a toss up.

Speaker 8 (12:27):
I do just because it's the first game, and I
don't know if people have done a lot of research
on Georgia Tech's quarterback. They running back the wide receiver,
and they got a few defenders out there that if
you're not careful that first night, and odall can attest
it is you can't too more than anybody.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I don't trust.

Speaker 8 (12:46):
Twenty year olds in nineteen year olds when the season start,
you know what I mean. I don't know them mentally
if they're gonna be locked in or not, you know
what I mean. So I don't I don't know if
they if they view Georgia Tech as a worthy opponent
to respect them in the first game, you know what
I'm saying. So that's the only reason I have it
as a toss up, because I just don't know where
their mental space will be at in that first game.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Right right, Yeah, yeah, I get that they may they
may have an advantage because they're at home sometimes, you know,
those those those younger kids, they get a little hyped
up to play at home at your fans. They scream
your name. You know what I'm saying, you show out,
you do your thing. You know how much love you're
gonna get out of the game. So you know, young
young players, you know they.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Thrive on that. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Right? Oh? Dog?

Speaker 4 (13:30):
What you think of the over and others for Colorado
this season?

Speaker 6 (13:35):
I need to see game one, so I don't have
no thoughts about it, bro, I need to see game one.
It's tough here, I mean you, it's that. I mean,
they ain't We ain't got no preseason, we ain't seen nothing.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
So I need to see at least.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
One game and then well we'll revisit the topic and
I'll give you. You know what I'm saying, a very a
very clear broken down offense, defense, special teams, the whole nine.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
So but for me to sit up here, what do
I think? I don't know.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
That's one thing about college you don't never know, bro,
you don't never know. So I'm anxious.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
C Uh. I don't know who their quarterback.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
I mean, I know they got the quarterback to transferred
from Liberty, but hey, did you watch did you see
a Liberty.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Game last year?

Speaker 6 (14:17):
I did, so I don't I don't know what's going
on with the team, So I wait and see game one.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, I heard they had a good team, but I
don't I don't know what type of competition Liberty was
playing though, But yeah, but.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
They played some they played some good but I think
they're in a conference in USA if I'm not mistaken
or they you know, they they played some good ball.
But you know, it's just like, well, who's the receivers?
You know, what what do they got? Do they got
some offensive lineman?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Did they what do who did they get in the
trand you know, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
So they gotta they got a lot. So I don't
know over one hundred and six games. I waiting and
watch game one and then I'll give you a better analogy.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
What do I think will better break down?

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna go blindly.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I'm gonna say over six, just just without even seeing
Liberty or I mean, without seeing that quarterback play, without
seeing Colorado play. I'm gonna just blindly say over because
if you're gonna put your money on it, you're gonna
go better on it now that this is when you
want to do it, just when the you know, the

(15:27):
stock is the highest. So I'm gonna go ahead blindly
and say over six, I think that Dion is going
to have his best coaching year ever because I think
he he'll get to show everybody how good of a
coach he is. And first time without having his son

(15:49):
at quarterback, without having Travis Hunter, you know, all the stuff.
He's coaching a brand new group of players that's not
related to him, didn't grow up in his household, and
and I think that, uh, this is good for him,
and this is this is definitely a time that's going
to put a shine on him to really show us
coaching ability. And in my opinion, he's been showing his

(16:10):
coaching ability since he was coaching that uh that team
out in Florida that uh like his select team or
whatever you want to call it, before he started coaching
college football.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
I think I think he's going to do well with
those young men.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
I will say this coach, just to add on to
what you said, they do, got a monster wide receiver
from a school down in Texas. He was a four star,
five star, one and one. They showed him all over ESPN.
I think he had something like three four touchdowns in
the state championship game at Dallas Stadium with the Cowboys.

(16:47):
But he went crazy and uh he he is a monster.
I mean when I say explosive, super explosive. So he
is one of the I do know about him. He
is one of the gentlemen that I am anxious to
see see the little younger duers thing. But besides that, man,
I don't know who's throwing the ball. I don't know
who's blocking. I don't know you know, or what secondary.

(17:08):
So I can't wait to see them play week one.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Okay, yeah, same here bro another over and under. That
that kind of picked my curiosity in. It's making me
want to put a couple of dollars on it. It's
the dollars Cowboys. So they got that over under at
eight games, so more money, I know, Cowboys, that's your mob.
So we're gonna start with you what you think over

(17:33):
under eight games for the Cowboys.

Speaker 8 (17:36):
So I got them just over at nine, right, So
I'll tell you the games that I haven't winning. So
I haven't beaten the Giants twice. Dak Prescott is thirteen
and two against the Giants. I haven't beaten the Jets,
the Panthers, splitting with the Commanders, the Raiders, the Lions,
and I have them splitting with the Eagles, because again

(17:57):
they usually beat the Eagles at home if we got
a conferenent quarterback. The toss up games are the Vikings,
the Broncos, and the Bears, because I don't know what
the Bear is gonna be this year, so they could
they could easily be a ten or eleven win team,
or they could easily be around eight or nine wins.
So that's that's pretty accurate.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
So I got him. I got him at over. You're
safe with the open in my opinion, what.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
You think, oh doll, you get to see him playing
preseason a little bit so far.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I like to have boys to go over eight games.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
If that pot stays healthy, I think Dak Prescott will
have one of his best years that he got you
very good receivers. I think Michael Parsons whenever he do
come in, come back to play, even if he sits
out for eight games and then you know you gotta
play to get credited. I think it's nine games or
six games or whatever, he gonna come back and he's
gonna be a.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Fucking monster.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
He gonna terrorize his own teammates, to crowd everybody. He
will be a uh bang from Superman or whatever, Batman,
whatever movie that. Well, you know what I'm saying, he
gonna he gonna go right, So look out for that.
So I definitely I think he gonna win three games
by himself. Wow, guaranteed, I think and that young boy

(19:16):
that if you if they can keep him his mind right, uh,
what's it?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Picket his mind right?

Speaker 6 (19:26):
And he doesn't because he might not get the type
of you know, ball of Paul's, the type of footballs
he won early in the season. But they can keep
his mind right, He's gonna see a lot of working
against that number two receiver. You know what I'm saying
the things I mean, that number two defensive back, and
I think he's gonna win those one on ones, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
So I'm I am anxious to see what he's gonna do.
So I definitely I got I got the Cowboys winning
ten games.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, I agree with both of you. I think they
they definitely went over eight games. Uh, ten is probably
the magic number for me. They could win more. I
think to Odoll's point, if Dak Prescott is healthy, you
know that that would guarantee them to win to me
at least ten games and if you look historically, dark

(20:17):
Prescott is favored very well against NFC opponents and in
his own division. So with that factor in place, I
just think I just think it's a no brainer that
you you go ahead and go in there and put
your bread on Cowboys getting over.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Fact. Okay.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
In other news, there's been a lot of talk about
Shaduel Sanders. We've been hearing all training camp along how
well he's been doing, how good he looked, how mature
he is, his leadership qualities, how he asks questions from
the veterans, whether they do he fins offense, special teams

(21:02):
like he's he's trying to learn and he's being a spudge.
And then, uh, he's been fourth string all the whole
time though, he's been the four fourth string quarterback with
with that group, and then he got an opportunity to start.
Uh in the first preseason game. In my opinion, I
was a setup game. They thought they was gonna set

(21:22):
him up and he was gonna wet the bed.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
But uh, that backfired on him.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
But they didn't have nobody to play Kobe. Everybody was injured.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, I get I get it, but I still I
still think. I still think they thought he was gonna fail.
You know, I didn't think they thought he was gonna farewell. Start,
but not taking snaps with the first team the whole.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
No, but but Kobe, nobody, none of the none of
the first team players played in the in the first
preseason game. He played with the guys. But he played
with the guys that he met with all all training camp.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
But in the second half, though, right, No, in the.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
First ain't no no starts in Cleveland play in the
first preseason game. Don't don't know starters played in the
UH in the first preseason game, So he ain't. He
ain't get a chance to play with the Jared Jared
Judy's and in the in the tight end and play Yeah,
Chris Over None of them boys played.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
So it worked in my opinion, it worked out in
this favor.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
I got to I got to throw the ball to
who I've been throwing the ball to with the threes
and the fours. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That
makes sense if I'm throwing too, if I'm working with
the three legs and I got to receive it and
I noticed killing, I'm gonna go to him all the time.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
You know what I'm saying or the or the two.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
You know what I'm saying, comfortable out there, Well, there
you go.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
I got you. I got you.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Even with that being said, you know, a lot of
people praised them on the way he uh, the way
he played, and.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
The poise that he showed and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
But yet still, I know he got injured and didn't
play in the next preseason game, but a lot of
people thought because of his showing in the first pieces
a game, he should have moved up the ladder at
least to second string and get a little bit of
rep with the first dring.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
But he's still sitting a four. Uh.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Would you like to see him remain with the Cleveland
Browns or would you like to see Chador Sanders get
traded to another team?

Speaker 8 (23:34):
So I'll take my U my bid I put my
bias hat on.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I would love to see him play for US.

Speaker 8 (23:40):
I think the Cowboys starting units is very good, but
I couldn't evaluate anything in the preseason because Joe Milton
has been terrible, so we definitely need a backup quarterback.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
So I would love to see Shador Sanders and uh
in Dallas.

Speaker 8 (23:54):
From a personal standpoint, now, professionally, I think he's in
the in a in a situation where he can learn
as the fourth string, you know what I mean. So
I'm torn because personally I'd like to see him on
my mob right, but professionally, I think he can grow
in the role that he's in because he will fade
as the season goes on. Right, the first pass that

(24:17):
Joe Burrow josh Allen Lamartine action, they gonna forget about
Shada Sayers unless he does something off the field and
he'll be able to learn from the quarterbacks in front
of him. Because one thing about it that Cleveland brown offensive.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Line, they're not all that, you know.

Speaker 8 (24:34):
It's no Pro bowlers that I'm aware of on that
offensive line. Jared Judy is a very good wide receiver,
but it ain't like they're the nineteen eighty seven Browns.
So he needs to learn and they need to build
a team system around That's my opinion on it.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, I like that take.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
For me.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I just I just want to see him get an
opportunity to play, whether it's what Cleveland or somewhere else.
I think he deserves an opportunity to get on the field.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
I think it.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I think it was it was bog with him going
so far down in the draft, you know what I mean.
I thought, for sure he'll be the second quarterback taking
in this in this year's draft, but he wasn't. But
at the same time, I think that he has the
talent and I think he uh he he deserves to
get out of on the feeling and show his true

(25:29):
talent and see what he got because we we've seen
a lot of ricky quarterbacks. So even quarterbacks that's been
in the league that's starting right now, that come on, brud,
like what are we doing? Like you know why why
they start?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
You know?

Speaker 4 (25:42):
We we've seen Daniel Jones play for the last.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
I don't know how many years, and he he's backing
to start lining up in Indy, you know what I'm saying.
So just I would like to see somebody likes you
doing get get an opportunity because I don't know what
they're doing out there in Cleveland, man, and I don't
know if they got got the man's best interest at
heart either. So that's that's my opinion on what you

(26:06):
what's your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Oh dog, I just I just want to see him,
see him get some reps against the ones.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Uh, But I bothers people.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
I would tell people to be very careful and what
you what you ask for.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
So that's just my opinion as a as.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
A quarterback, sometimes you want people to the best quarterback
in the league sat set a year behind Alex Smith.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Right.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
I mean sometimes you throw people out there in the
fire and and and you know people you throw, You
throw these quarterbacks out in the fire, and then all
of a sudden, well, well we ain't have chance to
develop them. Well wait a minute, hold up. You just
said you wanted him to get reps, you wanted him
to play. Now you're talking about he ain't get a
chance to get developed. Now, which one is? Yeah, you
know what I mean. So be careful, you know, like

(26:50):
you said, moneymow and it ain't. Last time I check,
it's eleven people. Man, this ain't this ain't this ain't basketball.
Last time I check, it's eleven eleven p g T.
It's eleven people. So you gotta be careful. You gotta
be careful with what you Uh, you gotta be careful
what you asked for. So if I if I if

(27:12):
I was them. If I was, do I sit back
and chill work on my game. Pick Joe Flacco, super
Bowl champion. Uh? And and like I said, we also
gotta be careful when we criticized quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Trent Dipper was the number one pick to the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
If I'm not mistaken or I think, yeah, but he
won the Super Bowl with with your team Baltimore Ray. Yeah. Right,
So sometimes sometimes you need to change a change the
senior to.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Have uh a good career. Uh. The last the last.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Quarterback after the first round pick was in Cleveland was
uh Baker Mayfield. He ain't work out too well for him,
but he doing pretty good down there in Tampa. So
sometimes you gotta be like I said, you gotta have
some pieces around. Football is not a one person game.
I do not care how good the quarterback is. I

(28:10):
don't care what he did in college, right, don't care
what he did in Corge. So better have some pieces around.

Speaker 8 (28:18):
Hey, hey, somebody need to get a GT tested or
he need to refer to Dak Prescott as mister Prescott.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Hey, g Hey, g o over there cooking the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 8 (28:28):
Hey, No, but that's fictional, real life we're eleven and
two against the commanders.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Eleven and two.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
And he said in his prediction, y'all gonna go two
and fifteen.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
One of them gonna be against the commanders because we
be on a backup quarterback.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Him like that. G we beat it with a backup quarterback.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
In his house, damn g Hey, gee, man, you got
pop up on the show man. You can't let more
money do that to you.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
Hey, Jay Daniels wouldn't running no options that day. He
was looking for a leven. So the only way Michael
Parson's gonna be in Washington is if he had a
go go party. He ain't going to no dagon. Commanders
will not.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Do whereas coming actually is a good segue into the
next question.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Dude, do you guys think Michael Michael Parson's.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Future in Dallas is over or do you think he
will be a cowboy for now and the foreseeable future.

Speaker 8 (29:35):
Man, people gotta understand how Jerry Jones, how the Bengals owners,
how they do business right there, old school, I've.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Said it in the past.

Speaker 8 (29:45):
They came in in the NFL where there was no
salary cap, there was no franchising, so these guys that
are still doing things the old way. Whether it's right
or wrong or indifferent, it's the way they do business.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
You know that as an agent, you know that as
a player.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
It's Michael Parsons ain't going anywhere, just like t Higgins
didn't go anywhere. Now Trey Henderson is a different story
because I don't think he's on that level.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
This me personally right.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
But they gonna take care of the guys that they
need to take care of in due time. If the
franchise has your contractual rights for three years three years
now we got the fifty year player option two franchise tasks.
They are in no hurry whether I agree with it
or not to give you the bag.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
So he ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 8 (30:29):
They own his rights for three years right now. I
think the cooler heads will prevailed. They'll get together on
a contract because it helps out the salary cap for
the Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
But it's just an ego thing right now. It's just
Jerry and Steven.

Speaker 8 (30:43):
They're trying to teach Michael a lesson, like, hey, we
own your rights when we'll come to you when we
ready to do this contract.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Because you not up, you not up next.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah, yeah, it may.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Maybe you guys can make sense of this for me,
because because I don't know, so i'll post the question.
So why like every year you have, you have a
star player on a team that has another year or
so on their contract, but they ready for a new contract.
They demanded more money, but you still got another year

(31:15):
or two on a on your current contract. Why why
is the expectations for the team to go ahead and
get a deal done now instead of waiting until that
current contract is about to expience.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Go ahead, money, mob, you roll.

Speaker 8 (31:31):
So it's it's it's two lines of thinking, right, It's
they're no different than you and I. I want more
money now because the football is a very violent sport
and I want to secure my future.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
That's the player side of it, not a business side
of it. The ownership.

Speaker 8 (31:49):
Yeah, I know this salary cap gonna go up and
the numbers gonna go up, but that's okay, that's pennies
to a billionaire, right. The issue is that you set
up bad precedence for every Michael Parsons that want to
get paid. You got a James Cook And I'm not
saying nothing bad about the young man, but obviously he's
not on a track to be a Hall of.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Famer, So he's messing up the game.

Speaker 8 (32:10):
That's how the quarterback market got out of whack because
they started getting that contract so early. So I believe
the owners are trying to get the players back in
line until we get another CVA and they rectify it
to say, Look, I'm not giving.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
You this money right now.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
I don't care how good you are. This is the protocol.
This is how we're gonna handle business. Yeah, and when
with your thoughts on that oldoll and you sign a contract,
and yeah, the money does the money does go up
you Right, But if I signed you two years ago, right,

(32:46):
and two years ago, use the top three dips your back, well,
money money, new moneys come in, TV revenue, all this
other stuffs come in.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Hey, that's what happens.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
Right, But I have you under contract, So as a business, right,
I'm I'm thinking about it. Ask if I own the business, right,
if I own the business, I did my job. I
signed you early, gave you some good money back then.
So because I'm looking at the future too, I don't
want to have to pay him if he keep having
seven interceptions, nine interceptions, eight interceptions, whatever, just like the

(33:24):
boy y'all had to.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
I'll give you a.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Perfect example, the young boy that played for uh the
Cowboys when Digg's got hurt. He had what nine interceptions
sixty dollars So men men Springs. Sean was like, man,
you got to give that man something crazy. You got

(33:46):
to give them something crazy, I said, Sean, for what
For what I said?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I said?

Speaker 6 (33:53):
If I said, I'm gonna wait for him to come
back next year, see what he does. If he does well,
then maybe I'll I'll reward him and get him something new,
because I think he was a low draft pick or
undrafted free agent.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
So I will definitely reward him. I will give him.
I will definitely give him a little sum.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
But I'm also I also want to see what he
gonna do after people know about him.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
After you know, can can he stay healthy? Right?

Speaker 6 (34:21):
That's how That's how the NFL look at you, you
know what I'm saying. So that's why you gotta That's
why you gotta have an agent. You gotta have a
good team. You gotta be able to get that money,
you know what I'm saying, when you can, And a
lot of people don't understand it's not so much about
the contract.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
And this and this and that.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
What it is is a lot of people and what
the differences come in is with the guaranteed money, right,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
So you know, if I'm an owner and I own
a team and I have.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
Just like with the Cherry with the Washington thing, GT, Yeah,
Cherry does deserve.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
It, right, But if you own it, if you own
the team, right, you you gonna GT.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
You're gonna keep paying the people just because they're doing
good stuff out in the community.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
You're gonna keep paying people.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Uh, just because he's a thirty some year old reseason
in the National Football League.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
He on his way out. That's that's what happens.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Because what happened was that's why you got so many
people now GT and let me put people on game
here on the Note Sports Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
That's why you got so many young kids.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Now we're back where for a moment there people were
reclassing money bow and because they was reclassing their kids
to do what go back right now you got kids
reclassing to.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Do what for.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
So now they're looking at it six seven, eight years
from now, you'll be able to get to maybe three
deals instead of just getting two. Well, And Terry McClaren's
thing was, he was he went to a prep school
whatever whatever, went to college. He was twenty four when
he came out, right, so he was. He had a
third round deal. Then they blessed gave him a new deal.
Then they took care of him again. Washington, like, he

(36:04):
can reap be thirty two year if they give him
another three for he'll be thirty two thirty three years old.

Speaker 8 (36:10):
Yeah, that's right, like to old Dogg's point. Right, we
laugh at Kirk Cousins. Obviously, Kirk Cousins will never have
Josh Allentana. But he finessed the hell out of the system, right, right,
He's better on himself. He took these shorter contracts with
all guaranteed money.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Right.

Speaker 8 (36:28):
So so whatever you think about him or whatever, his
situation is, his checks gonna catch.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah. And he and money Moe. He did money Moe.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
He did just enough to keep people interested, to keep
general managers interested. He did just enough to win enough
games to turn to give Minnesota a fighting chance. Right,
So he did what he did, what he did in Atlanta.
You know that whole situation. It's a new regime that
came in.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, so go ahead, go ahead on top of that.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
Right, it's he did the right things on the field,
off the field, and in the locker room, so he
checked all the boxes to get paid. Sometimes when you
look at these players, their talent may be similar, but
what they represent is totally different. Right when you look
at TJ Watt and you look at Michael Parsons, their
their talent level may be comparable, but their maturity is

(37:23):
worlds apart.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Right, So see, you don't lose. You't losing sleep when you.

Speaker 8 (37:28):
Give TJ watch that bad because you know what you're
gonna get when you go Michael Parsons. You're like, shit,
I don't hey gg, I'm not smoking enough.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
And I'm just telling you what they think, what they
think behind closed doors. I can say this is what
I think. I'm just telling you what they think behind
closed doors. See, I'm not smoking nothing, because that's why
your man ain't signed yet.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I'm trying to put you up on game.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
I've been I've been behind closed doors with general managers
I don't want the dinners and been in private rooms
and listen.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I'm trying to you. They not more, they not. That's
why Terry ain't.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
That's why many Terry is not getting his money because
of his age.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
It's that simple.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
If Terry is twenty seven right now, he's deal would
have been done if he's twenty eight. Yeah, once you start,
once you start getting into that, what's if they do
if he's about to be thirty thirty one?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Thirty?

Speaker 6 (38:23):
Ah? Bro, for what am I gonna pay Terry? Why
am I gonna pay him? And it's another dude right
now at Climpton that's number team. Yeah, it's too much
push in the bottom chap.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
What you're talking about to Hey, look, I.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
Help you out GT and I help all our listeners
and viewers out right now.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Kobe.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Now we're talking about the predictions, right, youre talking about predictions.
Let me put you on game what ESPN right now?
And what was the first thing that what the first
thing that they have to pop up? Twenty twenty six
NFL pre dry It ain't even what he play yet yet.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
But got the pre track. You know what, who's gonna do? What?

Speaker 6 (39:10):
It's souse from the bottom chat GGS staying not for long.
I didn't say he was washed. I'm telling you that
that's how they look at him. They saying he get older.
He getting older, that's all. He ain't nowhere near washed,

(39:31):
I think, And I think you're supposed to pay a
gentleman like Terry because he that security blank, yes, right,
But the question is what he asking for? How much
he asking for? Now?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't want to giving him some guaranteed money.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
I give him some more guaranteed money, But just how
much guaranteed money is he asking for?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
He got to be asking for a lot of guaranteed money,
you know, he gotta be, because I to me, I
think that franchise would have would have signed him already
after guaranteed money if they could agree to that, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
So I agree with.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Both of y'all, O mo in terms of they're not
giving him the bread because of age. And then also
I think that teams are trying to change the president
of you know, re signing somebody or restructing the contract
when they still got time left on their current contract.
Because look at my man from Pittsburgh Steelers, he just

(40:36):
he just signed the contract last year and now he
holding out right now because he wasn't another one because
he had a good year and he trying to capitalize
off the good year. Man, you just signed the contract.
It ain't even a year yet.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
But but but but with that being said, to his
defense code and to his defense money mode, like I said,
with a lot of people don't know. The only reason
why I know because he's got you know, for our
listeners and yours, and we got some family and friends
in the in the what he say, I need help,
I'm always pro player. Fu Well, there you go. Well,

(41:10):
there you go, I get you. You say fifty five
million guaranteed. That's what's up. So hey man tee, he's
his own brother. There you go. I'm all I'm for
the players as well. I was one up, still got
my NFL players called so. But my point of saying
it is the young man. He did say if he

(41:33):
if he he'll take this deal. But if he is
a all pro, he gets to come back to the
table like he had that that's why.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
That's why.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
So he said in his in his writing in his contract,
he said, if I hit these numbers, now I'm gonna
take this deal. But if I hit these numbers, because
y'all sleeping on me and I'm an all pro, and
I got seven sacks and I got this this and
that I'm going back.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I'm coming right back.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
To the table as he should then, as it's.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Good, no question, And I'm and i'm and I'm with that,
you know what I'm saying, As he should both. But
it's but the thing about it is what's messed up
is that's why the players just like, no, I'm gonna
try to get this money because they can cut They
can cut you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Right, That's right, they can cut.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
They can they can cut us whenever they want, you
know what I'm saying. So that's why the players it's like, well,
if you can cut me whenever you want, then I'm
gonna I'm gonna try. I'm gonna come back and capitalize
off of me having a great year. I want, I want,
I want more guaranteed money. So because that way, even
if you do cut me, my guaranteed money is good, right,
And you're less likely to cut me if you on

(42:44):
the cap and I got guaranteed money coming to me
no matter what, as long as I pass my physical
I got I got.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Twenty five coming, right, You're less likely to cut.

Speaker 8 (42:53):
Me, you know what I'm saying, under the current terms. Oh,
though I'm always pro player, right because you know, oh
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
I don't know no owners, you know what I mean?
I know a few players, right.

Speaker 8 (43:04):
So at the end of the day, what what players
have to understand is their their positioning comes in the
collective bargaining agreement.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Right. If you gave these owners.

Speaker 8 (43:14):
These rights to your contractual rights for like an extra
two years, that's on you.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
That's the game.

Speaker 8 (43:20):
If you don't like your situation, play it out better
on yourself. Let the franchise tag be what it's gonna be,
and then you can sever tize with this organization and
be a free agent and then shop your services. But
under the current CBA, y'all gotta change it. The players
have to change it.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
They got to stop being shortsighted with some of these negotiations.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Go to the table what.

Speaker 8 (43:42):
They had on because it's not fair, to be honest
with It's not some nobody should own your rights past
your contractual obligation, like I shouldn't have.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
Your rights two years later. Yeah like that that. I
think that's one of the worst things ever. The uh,
the franchise tag. Then I get it your franchise tag,
so I can help youp so it gives me a
little bit more time to resign you. But being able
to franchise you twice, that's crazy, that's great, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
What up about g Freido? You one hundred?

Speaker 6 (44:13):
Hey, look, hey, g T talking that talking about because
he ain't the one cut the check. You know what
I'm saying, GT, you was cutting that check. If you
was cutting that check and you and you had to
ditch that money out, I bet you wouldn't be saying
that g T be gonna g T is gonna get
right up over that Clinton. Go down there to Ala,
go get that boy number two, get him on a

(44:34):
rookie contract, or go get that boy from Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Come on, man, it's too.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
Much push from the bottom mane Yeah, it's too much
youngest from the bottle draft.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
And speaking with its hard and as a and as
a fan, you know what I mean. And and you know,
like we all say we were like for Terry mcclarin
a game bread, we would allowed to see him get
his bread. But you gotta think about you know, a business,
you know, an organization, and how should how they should
operate their business? Love like me, I give him money

(45:10):
just based off where he represented for the team.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
All these years.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yep, yeah, where he represents for your for your franchise
quarterback yup.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
But I'm not giving them. I'm not giving him fifty
million though, no what he or? No, I'm not giving
them no fifty million at thirty.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Man, thank you, Chelsea Clinton, give a million?

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Hey, but you know where he hey? Oh yeah, hey, Fred,
you know where?

Speaker 6 (45:43):
You know where I think what Terry messed up in
his and his team messed up him being older gentleman,
when he signed that last deal, why why sign a
four year? Why not just better on yourself? Like you said,
honey Moon, let me sign a two year. Let me
sign a two year because you know the money gonna
go up. Let me just sound the two here. You

(46:03):
know what I'm saying. Let me sound let me do Nah.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I don't want no four year deal. Give me a
two year deal, give me two.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Yeah, I agree. Ge said, I'm gonna pay the check if.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
I have.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
The that's my man, man, Uh salute. Moving on, man,
so that you know the last talk before we before

(46:42):
we get out of here. I want to go around
the horn and we start with you more money because
you've been cooking all day, Both of y'all been cooking.
But I want to predict every NFL division champion.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
So, oh you heard who that is?

Speaker 1 (47:01):
How about forty nine ers? Shout out?

Speaker 6 (47:04):
Shout out, shout out to the wife and a listeners
out there.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
He says, cut it out, says.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
She's talking about Bay Area.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
All so more money, l C East Man, you know
I got the Bills in that division.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
Bill's mafia.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Yeah you think you shout shout out the big pom, Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You think anybody gonna give him some
go in that division?

Speaker 1 (47:39):
No, not me personally. I don't see it. I don't.
I don't either.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Now I think this next division, the al C West,
I think it's gonna be more interesting than what we think.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
But who who you predicted? When that? When that division?

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Man, I'm about to say something very controversial in that division, man,
I like the Raiders in that division?

Speaker 4 (48:00):
You like the Raiders to win a division?

Speaker 1 (48:04):
I do?

Speaker 8 (48:04):
I really do, either the Raiders or the Chargers. But
my problem with the Chargers is I don't trust Justin Hrber.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I don't like Justin Hurt. I'm gonna tell you why
I like the Raiders.

Speaker 8 (48:15):
Right one thing that Pete Carroll does is he gonna
run the football.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
He got two young men in that backfield that can
run that rock.

Speaker 8 (48:23):
Geno Smith is a pretty good game manager, not in
a derogatory sense, but in a real honorable sense.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Right.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
He got a pretty good defense.

Speaker 8 (48:32):
So that's enough of a formula to win games in
the AFC West.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
The reason I don't believe the Chiefs will win the division.
I believe the Chiefs will make the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
I don't know if the schedule permits them enough games
to win the Vision because they playing a first play schedule.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
The Raiders playing a last play schedule. That's my team.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, and it's funny that you you mentioned a couple
of teams. You said the Raiders and the Chargers. You
talk to a lot of people. They pretty high on
the Broncos as well. They think that they got a
chance to slip through the cracks and win that division.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
I'm gonna tell you this right here, man, I watch
a lot of sec football, Bold Kniss's Foods, Gold, don't
buy that stock stock is game stock, bro. I'm trying
to tell you, hey, once that takee get rolling right now,
we're gonna speak a little bit of a little bit
of facts here, and they realize that Bolt.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Nickcks still can't read his own defense.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
Right if you if you're in a cover of three
and you gotta cover two looking, he still can't read
that thing because Sean Payton was hand feeding him last year.
And they realized that about Game five, that you know,
the Broncos look like the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
So the next division, and I'm paying close attention to
your words more money, I'm paying real close attention, amc North.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
Well, that's a tough division, man, that's a tough division.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I like.

Speaker 8 (49:56):
I like Baltimore, and it's only one reason because Cincinnati's
defense is terrible. If they had a good defense, I
would go Cincinnati because I think they have the best
quarterback in the division, even though I'm a Jackson fan.
But their defense is just not good. And I'm not

(50:17):
talking about the Steelers, man. I think Aaron Rodgers has
watched up me personally.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
So Cincinnati got the best quarterback in the division.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
They pure pure quarterback.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
No quarter back quarterback, man, I don't care. Just quarterback.
Darrel Burrow might be show the problem. It's tough, hey,

(50:53):
Kobe is tough. When you get off the bus and no,
you got to go thirty five every game.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Look, I get it, I get it, but you know,
you know I'm biased anyway, but I get it.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
I can't debate that I can, but I get somebody
who believes.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
That he's the best quarterback.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
But when you play another quarterback in your division nine
times and only one once.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
You know, you know, hey, Kobe, he don't play Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
That's why A look, that's why everybody else go by right.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Hey, I gotta I gotta call it like it is, bro, Hey,
Joe Burrow be back?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
They running for in life? Man.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
So look last year they both had terrible defenses when
they played the first time. At least the first and
second time, Baltimore defense improved. They start balling out. But
the first ten eleven games they both sucked on defense.
And it was a shootout. And what I would do
with the other That's all I'm saying. But but now
I get out. I love Joe, I love Joe Burrow,

(52:06):
but I will not say nothing positive about the fuck
boys with him.

Speaker 6 (52:11):
Right there?

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Where we going next?

Speaker 6 (52:18):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (52:19):
South? He's South, the Texans. I keep it simple. CJ. Stroud.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
I think you have a bad bounce back year. I
like Texas. I like the head coach too.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Yeah yeah, all right, nfcas.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Ship.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
I'm gonna go with the Eagles. They're gonna repeat champions. Man,
they probably the best team in football.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Hold on, I gotta I gotta put this up there, gee,
because you said you're speaking the gospel right now.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I can see that. I can see that.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
So who the hey ge?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Tell me that.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
You said Tomara's second best quarterback on the playing at
Who the first?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I know? What? Say? So?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
We got fit? Okay, you got Philly with the NFC East.
Who you got within the NFC West?

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Yeah, be capful since since listening to you right now too,
it's man, that's that's tough.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go with the Seahawks.
I'm gonna have to disappoint. I'm gonna go with the Seahawks.
I like the Seahawks in that division.

Speaker 8 (53:30):
The forty nine ers are good too, man, but they
lost a lot of pieces, man, And I don't I
don't know what the wide receiver position gonna bring you
in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
I like Ricky Pirasol. I think he was talented that Florida.

Speaker 8 (53:43):
He's talented, but I don't know how talented hes gonna
be when he getting double team because Dawan Jennis don't
scare anybody.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
And how you not coming back for like six games? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:54):
And name what's good?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Ebane? What's up? Man?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Just going to the show this year? See, that's the
only thing about.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
A Commander's fan formally known as the Washington football team
formally known as the Redskins. You can't have you can't
have an England of success or the whole fan base
is going to say, we're going to the show.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
But that's the same with your fan base too. More money.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
And I think the Dallas and Washington they we class
told so much because it's the same type of people.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
It's the same fans, you're right, Yeah, NFC.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
North, Uh shoot, I like the Packers in that division.
Yeah me too.

Speaker 8 (54:54):
Yeah, the NFC West. Hold on real quick, cochon. I
know they're gonna talk about the Rams. Problem is, I
don't know how healthy Matthew Stafford to beat. That's my
only issue with that one.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Oh they're saying he hurt, he nicked out back. Yeah,
and then the uh last one.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
NFC South, that's probably one of the worst divisions in football.
Give me the Falcons in that division.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Yeah, I mean, Falcons was the playoff team last year.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
So hey for the record.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Up, speaking of the Falcons, O, Gi Fredo, I told
you that they drafted a Pennis for a reason.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Brother, Yeah, that's I told you that. I told you
they was I told you they were driving for a rigon.
But you're right.

Speaker 6 (55:45):
But with that being said, oh, g Fredo, you all right,
they definitely could have used some other pieces. But that's
the thing about it when you're when you're a new
head coach, you want your quarterback, you want your you
want who you you're gonna you know what I'm saying,
Because at the end of the day, when you get fired,
you don't want to get fired because you got somebody
else's quarterback.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
Uh huh. So tho, let's let's start off with with
the NFC South. So you got win in that division? Tampa, okay? Uh?

Speaker 3 (56:19):
NFC North Rams No, they they they they NFC West,
NC North My bad.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Detroit, my bad, I apologize Detroit. I think Detroit gonna
they're gonna have a chip on the show.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Uh yeah, I believe so too. Man. That's a that's
a sneaky strong division.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Man.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
You got the packings and the vikings, and then you know,
we don't know what this.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
I don't know too much about the vikings though, because
it's one thing that would be a to be a
rookie quarterback.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
It's one thing to look good in practice.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
It's another thing to look good on Monday night football
when everybody watching and you're going against his one and
you and you ain't had you know, you got a
red jersey on it, you ain't had a hit yet,
and then all of a sudden that ball that you
you waiting for, that you waiting for that post route
to come open, you know what I'm saying. But yet
this younger Hutchison coming off the edge, you know what
I'm saying. And it's a lot, a lot of things

(57:23):
go into it that a lot of our listeners and
viewers don't understand. So, uh, you know, I'm gonna go
with the veterans. I'm gonna go with I think, like
I said, I think Detroit they got some they got
you know, for.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
How they lost.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
Uh, I'm happy that they you know, for the hometown
always Washington. But I think they're gonna come up with
a chip on their shoulder and try to handle business.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
The good thing for the young boy matter Mike is
he got Justin Jefferson as a safety.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
That that that is you know, you do it, he's
gonna get The only difference ain't basketball and football, though.
You gotta have time to throw it, you know what's fair.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Nf C West, remember you gotta eat tonight.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
Uh she's not watching the show right now, so it's
all good. I'm going with the rings ran Oh, okay,
I'm going with the ranks a lot. But I mean why,
I don't know why. That's a shot the Rams. The
Rams was two minutes away from beating the Eagles in Phillips, right. Yes,

(58:37):
one thing Shauna Bay gonna do is have.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Them boys ready to play, so you will.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Yeah, and that's that would be, you know, based off
the quarterbacks health too, right of course, of course, Uh,
NFC East, it's hard.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
It's tough to go against the Eagles, but uh, I
think Washington has some things.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
And see, I just don't want Washington to to you know.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
What, I don't want Washington to believe I hype so
much and everybody knows that, you know what I mean, Like,
I don't want them to be so hyped, you know
what I mean? But you right, miss Loft, and I
gotta go with I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go
to Washington, Redskin.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Going with to Washington Redskin.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
Nice uh m C.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
Obviously Buffalo, right, But I'm gonna be honest with you guys.
Mike Rable was a hell of a coach, and he
will have the new He will have the New England Patriots.
I think the Patriots gonna be number two and that
and that. I think they're gonna come out and they
gonna shock a lot of people. And I think, once again,
like we said, when you gotta receiver it that can help.

(59:57):
I think Steph is gonna help out uh just like
he did with Josh Right. A lot of people don't
remember that, now, come on, man, he helped that man's
career out a lot. I think he's gonna help out
May a lot in New England. So I'm going with Buffalo.
But I definitely think the Patriot's going surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
A lot of people.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Okay, AFC, West.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Kansas City, y'all better go watch Kingdom.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
I still haven't watched it yet I'm gonna do y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah, you better go watch Kingdom.

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
Yeah, I'm not going against I'm not going against Patrick Mahons,
especially after that showing that they had in the Super Bowl. No, sir,
right's coming back off your injury. They're gonna take the
time with him. They got a couple of other pieces
if they stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Yeah yeah, AMC.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
South, why you while you wait? While you're going, our
division lasts to the a f C South, a f
C se Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
I like the Texas, like like money moow make great points.
I want I want to see that young boy bounce back.
But once again, we know football is not one on one.
It is eleven man. So he got his team gotta
stay healthy. I think I think hopefully they got a
tackle to help. Hopefully they went and got a left
tackle because the Tunsu is in Washington now, so they

(01:01:35):
better get somebody to protect that young man's blind side
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
So but but I'm rooting for that head coach. I
was a fan of him. I was a fan of
him since way back in Alabama days. I was a
fan when he in the league. He the type of
coach you're gonna run through a wall for and then
asked questions later.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
Right, Yeah, yeah, that's dope. Uh A C North, I think, uh,
I think Baltimore's will. I think the Baltimore Ravens definitely
will win the division. I think Baltimore has a lot
to prove. I think I think I'm being serious, I
think Baltimore has a lot to prove. They can't they

(01:02:20):
keep having, they keep getting MVPs, they the greatest of
all time home Phil Advans regular season and then lose.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
So, uh, something gotta you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Know, because because if it doesn't happen this year, a
lot you a lot of questions gonna start getting asked about, Hey,
what we're doing here because we can't keep we can't
keep having home pill advantage. We can't be a fifteen
and two such and such and such and not getting
a gun. So somebody's gonna have to go, whether it's
hardball or somebody. Sometimes you need to bring a new

(01:02:50):
regime in there and spice it up a little bit,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
As the Tampa Bay Buccaneers worked out well for them.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
Yeah that's right, right, Okay, so you got the Bengals challenging,
no know for for that first place.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
No, not at all. Defense, not at all, not at all.
I can go start the corner.

Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
I can go start a corner right now for them
and give them twenty five great players.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Right now, right now. Put me inside of the slot. Man.

Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
I gotta be all it, gotta play. We gotta play
alls on. I ain't playing man the man with no
We play all for those twenty five players. I guarantee
you I'm a grade out gug and I'm gonna make
it play. I'm gonna do something, get a pick forst fumble.
I'm gonna I'm gonna make some plays and and and
that is the problem. The defense is discussing it offense.

(01:03:42):
I'm not even till me from off place with this man.

Speaker 8 (01:03:46):
It seemed like you remember early in Peyton's career how
grat he was, and the Coasts kind of took advantage
of it. They didn't get around him with defensive talent. Yeah,
I feel like that's what the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Are going Joe Burrow percent. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
And then you know Cincinnati is just a terrible franchise
because they don't pay anybody. Right, That's the reason why
the young boy not getting paid down. People is up
and the arm Giant.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Oh my gosh, he's not paying him. I can't believe it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:14):
All you gotta do is go back to one of
the legends in Atlanta, to Kiyo, go back Courty. It's
the reason why Corey Dillon got out of there. It's
a reason why it's a lot of people. You right,
You're right, GT, You're right, T you right, one hundred percent.
They are the Bengals defense is I wouldn't even even
if I was playing on the Bengals and I was started,

(01:04:36):
people will ask me what I will What you do, man,
I don't do nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Bro, you ain't got to go back that far back?
What Jesse Bates a pro bowler.

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
That's what I'm saying. He was just a pro in Atlanta.
You know what I'm saying. We let one of the
top five top ten safeties go. He not he not
asking to be something crazy and outrage is we just
give him something that's up there with some of the
top safety take care of him, showing some love.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
We let him go.

Speaker 6 (01:05:06):
He go to Atlanta and go crazy. Yeah, So that's
just what Cincinnati does. They do not take care of
their own. I mean, goes with him, costing Palmer, this person,
that person that. I mean, the list goes on and on.
So that's why they will continue to be what they are.
It takes a different type of motherfucker the root for
the Bengals. But that's why I root for him, you

(01:05:26):
know what I'm saying, because I'm different to that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Period to that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
I'm different. I've been I've been rooting for the Bengals
way back in the day. So all this new people
talk about, people talk about Joe Burrow and ship like that.
I tell people all the time, is the reason why
we got the number one pick. You know what I'm saying,
I'm I'm before cassing Palmer, Champ leave that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Yeah, so that's the fact. Yeah, I'm gonna run through
my list real quick. So AFC Sounds. I got the
Texans AFC North, I got the races an f C West.
I think it's gonna be tough, but it's hard for
me to go against the Chiefs, So so I'm gonna

(01:06:12):
just go with somebody I'm familiar with. They the top
dogs into somebody knock them off their posts. AFC East,
that's easy. I think the Bills run away with that division.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Uh A f C South.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
I'm gonna go with the Falcons. Falcons showed me something
last year. They was really competitive. There was a playoff team.
That game against Washington was a great, great game. They
could have easily won that game last last season.

Speaker 6 (01:06:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
NFC North, I'm gonna go to Lions. I think the
Lions are the best out of that group. And to
Old Mar's point, I think they got a chip on
their shoulder because they know they know what they could
have done last season and they didn't. So I think
they kind of got the same mindset that I hope
the Baltimore Ravens got that. Like this season, you know

(01:07:06):
you're on the mission. NFC West, Uh, I'm gonna go
to forty nine ers. I'm gonna need some hospitality next week.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
I'm not gonna burn, he said, he said, breakers you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
And then and then the n s A East Dallas
Cowboys G t Abney We out.

Speaker 6 (01:07:39):
This is no cat sports show podcast reports of Cowbos
could line so.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
Loo Loo we gone.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
What happened to the North