TNCSSP S5 EP 181 - December 10, 2025 - The No Cap Sports Show Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah, yeah, this is still a Canadian and I wonder
welcome you to a sports experience I like no other.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You announce into the note.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Capp Sports Show with sports and convos Collide, authentic, unapologetic,
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(00:39):
to the No Cat Sports, your podcast for sports and
convos Collide. I'm your host of Cobra.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm your host more money.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Hey, I'm your coach. I'm your host, coach Milton. Let's
get it done quick, getting out of hand. Hey, I'm
calling out puem me call it all. Pull me where
you at? Need you to stop through poom? Need you
to stop through poom? Come holler at us, come out

(01:10):
that corner man. No, I don't know. We don't need
pull him on the show today. I don't want him here. No, No,
he can't come. I got I ain't got I ain't
got time. I ain't got time to hear that bullshit today.
I need I need to hear where he's staying.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Come.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
No, we don't need nothing. He can't he stay out
there with the cigu and in one of them back alleys.
I don't know where you be at. You at the
corner proposition Joe moving, pats whatever he's right now. Let
let him, let him just continue to do. Leave him be,
Leave him be. And I knew, man, something I knew.

(01:56):
I knew it was some bad news because he was
the first my run. My phone didn't ring all morning,
and my phone finally run and I saw I had
a miscalled from Poon, I said, I said, nah, I
know this same way I think it is. I noticed

(02:17):
what I think it is. And then as soon as
I you know, get up and get my stuff going,
I get a call from Fredo.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Then I get a call from my cousin. Uh. Then
I get a call from another person, another person. I said, no, man,
I was pissed off. Man, I couldn't believe. I had
to turn first, I'm searching on my Google first. I'm like, nah,
this case they bullshit. I turned on the TV. Sure enough,

(02:47):
know the dang left out of the college football playoffs.
I couldn't believe it. I was shot. I was shot.
Started started my start of my Sunday off back sports. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Then the Ravens didn't help.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
And then the raven and then the Ravens didn't help.
That just was throwing start in the wound. I'm like,
this is a bad sports weekend for your boy, except
for them Lakers. Except for them Lakers and the King's
see more, mother was talking all that ship about the
King and then and then you already know Coach Mill

(03:25):
was gonna coach side because he a low key Lebron hater.
So he's like two years old. Come on, he just
got back. You know what it is.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
He ain't come I don't know if you watched that
game on Friday night, bro, but he had he.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Looked her, Hey, you go, you gonna see what I
get it though. I know I know what you saw,
and and that's fair, but you gotta look at the
totality of what what what's happening with him? First of all,
First of all, just like a pre season for him,
so you know he off season. He didn't really have

(04:04):
no preseason. He didn't have you know, he had the
sciatica and the hip, but it wasn't even sciotica. I
was bothering. I didn't know this until I went back
and I saw somebody post you know, that game when
he had his first real breakout game. I think he
had like twenty five eight and eight, twenty five nine
and eight, something like that. I can't remember against who.

(04:26):
But at the tail end of that game, he ran
into the backdrop of the basket and stubbed his toe.
And then they showed that they showed not the three yeah,
but but look, they showed that they showed him. So
they showed the next three games after that incident thirty

(04:48):
twenty six percent. But the three four games before that,
he was extending upwards, you know what I mean. Started seventeen,
then eighteen a triple double, and then and then the
twenty five game. So he's going up and then he
had that that little injury, and I know they reported it,
said it was joint ar writers in his in his

(05:09):
foot or whatever the case may be. But that's when
you saw those games where he looked, oh, looks slow,
wasn't moving well, wasn't shooting well, you know, but he
was just trying to contribute where he could. But most
started talking ship. He made that call, he got his
chipment from York, He took his little shot, took his

(05:31):
little doc and then he back. Now he putting on
the crown again. It was it was.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Good to see. It was good to see, he said.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Athletic. He looked fast, so he going, so he going
to the minic kitt the minic clinic for those thirty
day shots. No, no, he now he billionaire brother. That's
street that's straight from Europe. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's some
exclusively that's exclusive list. Hey man, so you're go watching

(06:04):
the night because they play San Antonio. Yeah, what does
he talk about? Hey, hey, I'm gonna tell you what though?
The games last night was good Banes. Banes played real
well last night, thirty six points in thirty seven minutes.
And then New York New York played well against who

(06:25):
was it? Toronto New York killed? Toronto New York kill.
But in the first quarter. Look you see what happened
in the first quarter. Uh old boy had twenty twenty the
first quarter and Brandon Ingram had seventeen in the first quarter.
And then after that it was just all down.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
They switched Michael Bridges on the Ingram and it was
a rat.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah. Make a difference, bro, Yeah, he don't get enough props.
He he's a difference making. He don't know, he all in.
He'll make a difference in the game. Yeah, and he
unlike he unlike uh Davis. Yeah, I'm like, uh pumis
man that the mother forger that he that missed every game.

(07:05):
Michal's don't miss.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
A game, don't want to come out, don't.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Want bridges, bridges like the small full version of ju Holiday. Yes,
that one person you gotta have on your team, you
know what I mean? That X factor. You don't complain,
don't complain.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Don't look for touches. If he gets it, he get it.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man. Look, we got a lot of
we have a lot of topics to touch on the day.
So man, let's jump right into this. Man, let's I
think we still start off with the NFL though we
we we will work our way up to the to
to to the nitty gritty. So, uh, what what games
did you see over the weekend that kind of caught
your eye that you was really focusing on that you

(07:50):
thought that that was one of those games that's important
in terms of leading into the playoffs. Uh? What I watched?
Who was the Bears versus the Packers. That was a
good game. I thought, Uh, you know, Parsons talked a
little ship before the game and uh you know said

(08:13):
that you know, put him on notice about you know,
what he was going to do. And all of his stuff,
and they for the most part, you know, green Bay,
green Bay held up. But uh, I'm telling you, man,
Caleb Williams is starting to He's starting to shut a
lot of people up. Man. You know, he threw you know,
he threw that interception down. That dude, man, he gonna

(08:34):
he I've always known he's you know, he's a local product. Dude,
that's been a real deal for a long time. But
you got a lot of people that's always talking about
his fingernail polished and his little sassiness. The dude is
a football player, bro. You know, just because he drank
sweet tea don't mean he can't can't please. But look,

(08:57):
tell me that the coach. Do you think the criticism
in terms of his play on the field was was
too egregious because when they put his rookie numbers next
to Jayde Dann's rookie numbers, it's pretty much the same
except for the team wins and losses, but the but
just uh statistically stay the same yards, touchdowns, good stuff.

(09:23):
I think I think everybody nitpicking that little stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
They got to remember the dude, he's only what two
years in the league and had two this is second
head coach, second offensive coordinator. I mean, and and he
playing in Chicago, so what they expect the kid. The
kid is a talent. You have to be patient with him.
And now he has a coach, an offensive minded coach

(09:46):
that knows how to work with quarterbacks. And now you're
starting to see people gonna find stuff to pick about.
But you can't deny that you're watching greatness unfold right
in front of your Oarsmen, the kid is gonna be spectacular.
So nitpick all you want, but when it's all said
and done, they're gonna be eating a lot of crow

(10:06):
because the dude is putting us. You know, he makes
you know, he's gonna make mistakes, right, He's gonna make mistakes.
He's still you know, he's still young. He's still trying
to figure it out. But you see flashes. Man, the
talent is there, Dude. The dude is is awesome. He
got he got that. That is capability. Man. Like his
pocket awareness is crazy. You just watch how he's like

(10:28):
in the pocket. If you just watch him, nothing around him,
Just watch him in the pocket. Man, he just just
his sense aroup, like that football sense. He's you could
just see it. He just gets out of situations effortlessly. Man.
The dude, the dude has great pocket pocket player yep, yep,
so and put the touches on the huh he said, yeah,

(10:55):
I said, baby on you said, yep, that's where that
capability at, Yes, sir, but no he yeah. I mean
people nit picking, but you know that's that's because you
know that's what they do, right, They ain't got nothing
better to do. Yeah, he's the head of a quarterback

(11:16):
and the Skys are living for him. You can see
the talent absolutely for sure. What was the what the
marquee game? For you? More money?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
So I watched every minute, damn there, every minute of
the Steelers uh Ravens game, just because I watched damn
there every Stealers Ravens game. It's always a good game
to me.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Two division riders always agree. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I love it. You know, they talk a lot of trash,
they hit each other. So watching that game, win, lose,
a draw, both teams. I know what the end result was,
but they both were pretty evenly matched. It was a
pretty good game. It came down to a couple of mistakes,
a couple of calls. So I thought that was a
good game, the Titans Browns.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Game, the Titans and Browns. So we just gonna gloss
over the fact that the Ravens got cheated. You so,
so that that word.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Cheated he did.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
But at the same time, Kobe, somebody got shit. Isaiah
likely down and tell him get his ship together. I'm
just gonna keep it the honey because.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
You right. But on that particular play, what could he
have done different? On that particular play, I don't know
what he could have done different. He caught it, he
secured it, he had the ball out. What else could
he done? So, so here's my question before you answer them,
or here's my question, hot because I'm watching that real
time like y'all were. And if you call that not
a touchdown, how do you call a to a two

(12:43):
tap a touchdown? Because the two tap is just two
touches and the ball is at the back. He caught
the ball, he held it out, clearly had control. It
took two steps.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
What football movie.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Is supposed to play when in general all the ball
has to do is break the plane? So what do
we what are they what are they saying? That wasn't
What was a football? Like the dude was trying to
knock it out of his hand, and he clearly had
it out. He'd established control of the ball. So coach,
they said, They said, if he would have extended the
ball like that last, that would have been considered a

(13:17):
football move. So what but he was keeping But no,
what do we what do we tell receivers to do?
Man attack the football? Right? If he would have caught
the ball ahead, the damn dB would have knocked it
out of his hand. So what since that meant he
already made the football move. He caught the ball out
here and kept it out there and put the dude
on his back, and you already in the end zone.

(13:40):
By rule the ball, all the ball has to do
is crossed the plane. He was in control of it. Yeah,
he mean he had. He could have merged the ball.
The dude was just grabbing that his own. But he
already said. If that's the case, then how do you
say that an over shoulder catch a two tap toe

(14:03):
touch catch, because all they do is been bang bang
catches out like you, you can't even make it move.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
If they dropped, the ball is incomplete. If a guy
took two taps and then he go out and then
he go out of and he dropped the ball. They
gonna call it incomplete.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
You have, but he had control of the ball though
he took two steps, So that ain't that the same
as two feet? It was.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
It was close when I watched it live. It was
too close. And then I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna
give you my opinion. So a lot of times I
think refs are human, right, and his reputation is somebody
who does goofy things around the end zone, you know,
not getting two feet in bounds against the chief, fumbling
the ball last week. I can go on and on
with Isaiah likely and making mistakes. I think his reputation

(14:51):
played a part into the referee.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
About that money keeping a record. But and I had
to be asked for a third move or a football move,
a third foot or a football move. Why you need
to make a football move? You're already in an end zone.
You're not I get it if you're in a field
of play, but you're in the zone. And I can

(15:16):
agree with and I can see if he was bobbling
the ball at any point, he clearly had control of
the ball because he was out here with it. I
agree the stationary, Like you stay in a stationary quarterback,
throw your ball, you catch it and hold it, and
the dB just come after you already catch and slap
it out your hands. That's a touchdown? Is nothing? Yeah,

(15:38):
nothing else but catch the ball.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
My point is I just don't think Isaia likely gonna
get any grace. So if it's close, it is what
it is. Like, I agree with both of you, it
should have been a touchdown for my My problem is
as a shadow rapist fan, he always doing some on
head and ship like.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I didn't even see it. I didn't see the funel
against k C until they ran it back. I didn't
even know he had did that. I was like, oh god.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
They seemed like every big game he's the guy either
he making a great catch or he doing something that's like, bro,
come on man, what we doing? So when he caught it,
I was like, please, let's go to the ground.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah. But they still had chances and Lamar might be
might have the worst luck as a quarterback. You got
Bateman drops a drops the ball that was an automatic
first down, could have been a touchdown. We don't know,
but it looked like it could have been a touchdown.
And then he has hockeys in the back of the
end zone, spots him throw it to him, and then

(16:39):
the tight end comes out of nowhere and put his
hand up and tipped the ball. I guess thinking he
can catch the ball or thought it was for him.
But hockeys in the back of the ar zone all
by stuff. They showed the replay over and over and over,
hockeys wide over. So that's why Lamar like grad his
hammer and ran off the field, like, what are you doing, bro?
It's not for you? So out too. Tight ends be
doing some stuff in the past year too.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
They have. But I mean, like you said, Baltimore had
chance after chance in that game. It wasn't like the
stealers just beat them down. The only thing I wur
fault Baltimore on is it looked like they was a
little scared of DK Metcalf. I don't know what happened,
but they Hill boys was scared to tackle. They want
no parts of DK Metcalf in that particular.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah. Yeah, it took them a while to settle where,
particularly the fourth quarter. That's when they started settled. Second half,
but particularly the fourth quarter, they really started to lock
down there and they didn't give up any big plays anymore,
because it was wasn't getting big plays against anybody until
last Sunday.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
They were scared. It was five weeks.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
It was five weeks that they didn't have a pass
play over twenty yards. They started the game off in
the first quarter with like three of them.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Back to back, and then Mike Green, I mean, at
the end of the day, bro, if you can't sack
Anon Rodgers at forty what were doing? Like he had
two sacks Aaron Aaron Rodgers dead the rights and they
were on third down two and he just let them
get out of his grass, you know. But yeah, that
was one game. And then the other game, Wash was

(18:12):
seeing the young guns go at it, Shadua Sanders and
Cam Warre. So I'm flipping back and forth. Actually I'm
going from the living room to the den watching both games.
Shadua Sanders looked amazing. His coaches a knucklehead. You know
it is what it is. We know what it is
over there. Why would you take shaduor Sanders out the
game and run some play that they running pee wee?

(18:32):
Where you got the running back throwing backside? Man? Come on, man,
it's in the red zone.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Like it's an It was two rekies too, two rekies.
What do you think? Do y'all think that that what's
happening with your door is coming from Stefanski or coming
from ownership.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm I'm gonna keep it a bug. This this what
I know. This what I know. It ain't what I
what I think. This is what I know. Kevin Steven
Stefanski didn't want to draft, should do a Sandus. So
if if he doesn't want to draft him now he
doesn't want to play him, somebody in ownership, whether it's
a GM, a player personnel or scout, somebody wanted to draft,

(19:13):
should do sand this or he wouldn't have got drafted, right.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Something the black dude was he the GM? Right?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
So you think it's a clear message from the coach
that this not who I wanted to be my quarterback
for whatever reason. You know, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Should do it. Sand This is a little brash, right,
He's not for every coach. He's not for every coach, right,
He's just not. You know, some some coaches can't take
a brash player. They just can't. So you know, I'm

(19:41):
not gonna fault him from from that standpoint.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
But what I will love Jackson Dark though we love
Jackson Dark.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
But they didn't draft Jackson Dark know what I.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Mean, but you don't. But he he the same type
of confidence, right. But here's the thing that I can say,
and I think texted it in the group. The one
thing that you can say. You can call shar Door
any and everything brash, cocky, but the dude is always
professional man like he ain't. I've been watching your Door
since he was freaking ten years old, when they were playing,

(20:12):
when they were out in Texas, when they had the
little reality show on. He is still that same kid.
He speaks eloquently. He's a very smart young man. He's
very respectful, you know. But just like any quarterback, you
want your leader to have some confidence. Man. And I
don't understand it. And someone was saying something early maybe
it's it's an opportunity for those who don't like Dion

(20:36):
to now, you know, use that as an opportunity to
be against Shador and I'm like, but at the end
of the day, you can clearly see that the kid
is talented. No matter what he does, he is a leader.
He's a leader of men, and he goes out and
he performs, So what about that you don't want as
a quarterback for your organ especially the Browns.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Now it's this but coach, look at this though, it's
the same coach that ran Baker Mayfield out of out
of town. I don't think this coach was ever ever
fully embraced Deshaun Watson. So I think my point is
it's just him. I mean, is the furthest.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Thing from Brashshawn is as mild mannered as meek as
you want him to be. So yeah, okay, I mean yeah,
but I'm just looking at it from the standpoint and
probably you have some back end because he's getting away
with a lot of this stuff. So someone that higher
up has to be okay with what he's doing, or
he wouldn't keep doing it because he wouldn't have a job.

(21:36):
I don't think, I don't. And if he keeps his job,
then we know that it's spaship.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, you got another thing about the Browns coach. They
don't like to fire people in season because they cheap
as hell, you know what I mean, that's what and
the coach know that, right, you know, you know he
know the saint It's not you know, the Cowboys or
another franchise that has money that are just like, I'm
gonna eat that. I'm gonna eat that. So you see

(22:04):
what I mean. So they don't they don't want to
terminate this. Yeah, so he knew he could, he could
do some stuff get with. Yeah, he knew it. And
you know, and and he had a little bit of
justification because you start Joe Flacco because I don't want
to start the rookies. Then I played the guy that
was drafted ahead and should do it. So he was
keeping things on the up and up. But he knew

(22:25):
what he was doing. He because I mean, at the
end of the day, should do it. Sanders ain't just
start making plays. He been making plays in practice, is
what I mean. So, and then Dylan Gabriel at the
end of the day, you've seen him in practice too,
So the coach, I say, it's more on the coach
than anybody else, you know what I'm saying, what I mean,
And I can't blame upper management when should win in

(22:47):
the fifth round. So that mean that was a lot
of teams that passed on should do with Sanders and
the Cleveland Browns would just happened to be the one
that gave him a chance. But I got one more
game coche before I passed it over to you. And
I've been waiting to say this for a long time.
Jalen hurts. Look like Jalen hursts.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
God.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
That boy, Hey, that boy look bad and he looked
bad out there. The boy can't read the defense. He
cannot read a defense.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, hey, man, that's a that's another coach that need
to be fire. The offensive coordinator is terrible on that team.
You got all that talent and you can't draw up
a play last I checked. Damn uh uh the running
back and catch coming out the bicycle. Why you keep
trying to force force to do bro like swing the
damn ball out to him and let him let him

(23:38):
work in space? Man? Is the being being handicapped by
the quarterback?

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yes, that's what I was about to say. Coach, you
will coach, you are very intelligent. Man. I want you
to go watch that game again. Right, So this this
is just me. I play mad for a living. I
don't play high school football. But let me tell you
what the coach did, right. So what the charge we're
doing is they primarily played cover three and they put

(24:04):
the linebackers into the zone space. So what the offensive
courter is He ran Dallas god it on seam routes,
which is the weakness of that cover three. Jalen Hurts
rarely looked at Dallas got it. Let me tell you
another thing he did. He had Sakuon Barkley as an outlet.
He didn't look at it.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, well he didn't even look that way. Yep.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
His first read was the AJ Brown or Devontae Smith,
and then it was either some combination of Dante Dodson
or Brown. And then after that he looked to run.
He took his eyes off the defense and he would
look to run. He got away with stuff last year
because you had to put seven people in the box,
maybe eight, because Sakuon Barkley was special, Right, he had

(24:52):
a special season. Well, he's looking average with the average
offensive line, and it's making the numbers go back into
the defense's favors. And now he gotta read defense. He
been doing this since Game one against our sorry defense.
He made the Cowboys defense look like the eighty five Bears.
Everybody was like, oh man, Dallas got a good defense. No,

(25:12):
we was trashed and we've been trashed.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
And the and the crazy thing about Dallas and Oh,
if O was on here, he said that, he said
the same thing all the time. The DV is just
sitting on the routes. They just sitting. You can clearly
see they sitting. They ain't even acting like they're gonna move.
And he still yeah, it's when he threw when he
threw that that last interception, I'm like, bruh, didn't nobody move.

(25:35):
Why you even looking over there? But like you said,
he didn't look. He didn't. He didn't take his eyes
and go to read three. He stayed on one. Two.
Pull it down or he's gonna try to force it
in there. Yeah he uh. I'm you know, I agree
with oh. And I like Hurts. You know, all he's
done is win. But when you make him throw the ball,

(25:57):
it it chokes, like his decision making shows. And but
still though he draws plays, it's.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Hard to draw plays when you're working with half the field.
Jammer Hurts been the same quarterback since Alabama. He can
only work half the field. That's why Tulla came in.
And he cannot read the whole field. What Keller Moore
did a masterful job at is getting him out and
moving him and so that it condensed the field. This

(26:33):
new offensive coordinator came in, was like, oh, you super
Bowl m v P or you've been working. Let's let's
see if you can play quarterback. Until this point, he
has not played quarterback consistently. Hell, just give AJ Brown
a chance. He is a he is a contested ball catcher.
So that and and I'm real passionate about it.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Didn't j didn't do his part either.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
He dropped he did, he dropped the ball. It's gonna happen, right,
Why I receives gonna drop the ball every now and then.
You don't want them to, especially when they, you know,
making the money AJ making. But it's gonna happen. But
nine times out of ten, eight, nine times out of ten,
AJ gonna come down with that ball. To think the
reason why I'm so passionate about it, And Kobe you
will understand this more than most. We sometimes credit so

(27:19):
much on team success and we and we bail out individuals.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
What I mean by that, Lamar Jackson, if he was
playing like Jalen Hurst, we would ridicule him. We would
say he need to be out of the league. Right
because Lamar Jackson hasn't had a prolonged playoff success. We
would say that in some capacity, Jalen Hurst might be better.
That's what some pun this would say. That's stupid. If
you got two eyes right and you watch football, you

(27:45):
will know that Jalen Hurst and Lamar Jackson don't belong
in the same category. You would know that he probably
shouldn't have won that MVP last year. It should have
went to Josh Weat. But we put too much onus
on role players when Super Bowl championships are hand it out.
He was on one of the best teams in the
National Football League in the last five years. He was

(28:05):
a product of the system. He's never been a difference
maker and he will never be a difference maker unless
he changes the way that he approaches the game.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, I mean long long, as long long as the
team is great. He got a great supporting canst around him,
and his responsibility isn't heavy as a quarterback. He's gonna
he does fine. You know, he he does fine. But
you know now with their team needing him to do

(28:35):
a little more, needing him to carry a little bit
more of the load on his shoulders, this is when
you're seeing his true talent and that's why you see
him play bad on a consistent basis, or he made
mistakes on a consistent basis. And I called it yesterday.
I was I was watching the game with a Philly fan.
I said, Bruh, y'all need to y'all need to give

(28:57):
get his ball a heavy doze or say kwan baki
that said, because if Hurts throw the ball, if he
keep passing the ball, he's gonna throw another pic. And
he's like, you know, man, we straight straight and sure
enough threw a picture in the game. I'm like, brouh,
you can't, can't you can't depend on him. Like he's like, man,

(29:18):
you super Bowl, super Bowl, every p all that. But
you know, sometimes you just got the perfect mix of gumbo,
you know what I'm saying. And it makes you look
better than what you are, you know what I mean.
But yeah, y'all know, y'all know my household. I have
a I have a I have a mine, my Minnesota
Vikings fan and the Eagles fan. So my youngest son

(29:39):
is a Minnesota Vikes man. He always says, when Jailen
Hurts plays, if you make him throw the ball ten
or fifteen yards, he gonna he's gonna show who he
really is.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
A small man man. That's that's the thing about it. Right,
you look at some interceptions, right, you know, tip passes,
you know, you know you have some quarterbacks that take
chances because they're supremely talented, they believe it in arms,
and then you got some that you just like, bro,

(30:09):
why did you what are you looking at?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Looking at?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Like?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
What did you see?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
What did you see? And that's that's what.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Who who was commentating that game because they was in
it from first quarter all the way through overtime.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Wasn't it College Worth?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh yeah, yeah? College with College with Collingworth was saying
in the entire game that he doesn't know how to
read read the field, read defenses and that's another part
of this game that he needs to improve on. And
how he missed the easy play and he throws bone
head players because he just doesn't see the field. Well,
he's he said that the entire game. He called up

(30:48):
what you were saying too, when he didn't look over
and you have Haquon just sitting over as a safety guy,
was like, he didn't even look over to de see
Haquon just drop it to him and let him do.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, ain't looking good for the Eagles, fellas. I'm gonna
tell you that right now, unless they change well for
one y'all, we all play sports, right When you're in
that locker room and things aren't going well, as men, right,
you start to look around like, damn, what's going on?
But we're gonna get some energy from When it's your quarterback, bro,
it's hard. All the energy is sucked out the room

(31:20):
because typically the backup and as good as the starter.
So where you're gonna get the Joda energy from and
all the stuff that we talking about good. We're just
three dudes on a podcast, right. There's NFL defensive coordinators
that get paid a lot of money to decipher what
we're talking about. So every defensive coordinator is gonna look
at that same tape and they gonna dare Jalen Hurst

(31:42):
to throw it. Yeah, so don't. I don't see them
making the playoffs. I don't And if they do, they're
gonna get smacked in the first round. I don't see it.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm gonna tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
The playoffs, I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm calling
it right now, Washington will steal one of those games
and they will lose against the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah they Yeah, they'll lose the Buffalo. But I don't
see Washington beating them either out of the game.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I didn't see the Giants beating them. The Giants with
two and eleven and one of them wins is against
the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
And if Marioda plays like he played the last game,
I don't see because Marioda don't put the ball in
Harm's way. You know, he's a smart and you know,
if they can handle who was at the who's at
the Chargers that they played who when they them, they
make them? Yeah, yeah, that's a great defense there, that's
a great defense. And Marioda moved their game. They game

(32:35):
playing that for Mariota. And if they if he just
does that, man, that's gonna be a tough game.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's that's They gotta play them twice twice, and they
gotta play the Giants again, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
With with Jackson dart back to.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's not gonna be It's never good when you play
these division divisional folds because even if they sorry, they
get up for you.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
So that's just my opinion. I don't I don't see it.
And I don't like the field that they have right now.
I don't see the energy. I don't I don't see
the camaraderie. And that's what football is all about.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, and the defense and the defenses like most like,
like most said, the defense is gonna start thinking about
conference championship weekend from college football. It was great, great,
great Gray. You know, we got you know, shout out
to my man, uh Mikyle Kamara number six, and Indiana

(33:31):
pulled it out.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
That that was That was a closely content The one
thing that I was shocked, pleasantly shocked to see was
Indiana produced that running game that I was questioning, like
that was the only question I had was if they
could be physical enough. And I think we all said, I,
if they can produce any type of running game, it's
gonna give Ohio State problems. And that's what they did.

(33:57):
They ball controlled. I thought. I thought the quarterback going
down the first player of the game, I thought it
was all like, all the hell, here we go. But
you know, bounce back and play a great game, man,
And you know that that was That was That was
a dope. That was a dope game. Both of the
games was good. Actually so so. Yeah, but you see

(34:20):
you see uh, you see the defensive end from Indiana,
the top defensive end. He he blew his knee out celebrating,
so he out for Yeah, he stepped my son. My
son was there with him and said he just stepped up.
They were celebrating on the bleachers and he stepped up
to reach up to give somebody a high five or
something to step down mister bleachers and towards knee up.

(34:44):
Look after the game, after the game, just just celebrating, yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
And.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Hopefully it's not an a c L or nothing and
he can get back for the combine hopefully, you know.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, but but yeah, nah man, that's uh, it's it's
let's let's talk about it. Cod what what what? Uh?
Because you know we we we talked about it man,
like what is what is your I like what you said?
You know, the power of the Catholics? What the hell
is going on with them not wanting to play in

(35:24):
a ball game like.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Game?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
And what so when you play the season for that
to make it to the college football playoffs, the ball
games are meaningless? Now what what did you play the
ball game for? Buh? So? Why why don't you gonna
go playing the boat. What you're gonna play in the
ball game? Give give college football ratings. Let them, Let

(35:52):
them get some bread off of off of, off of
the brand and not the dame after you just screwed them.
Why making spars damn money? They don't share no money
with nobody. What is you talking? Yeah, but if they
go to the bowl game, Uh, college football get that
money and whoever's sponsoring that that particular bowl, they get

(36:16):
a piece of the bread too. Like you, you're helping college
football by playing in the bowl. If you're not to day,
you're bringing, you're bringing viewers, you're bringing, you're bringing ratings,
you're bringing, you're putting butts in the seat in the stadium.
I'm not I'm not. I'm not helping them out after
what y'all just pulled. Man, you crazy, and I know

(36:39):
they am not going So you are you a big
talk not of that? Why do they not enter into
a conference because this is what it's gonna be like
what we got there. You don't have guns, so you
don't have that because because because that's the foundation of
our institution. We we we take conference. We've always been that.

(36:59):
You we got our own, We got our own network
every Saturday. We we don't have to share no money
with nobody else. What we what we need to go
to conference for. We don't need a conference. A conferences
trying to show us different. So you who would not

(37:20):
be in the conference and you cool would make your
own money, but you ain't cool with not making the playoffs.
But when you deserve it, now, when you deserve it.
But we ain't got nothing to talk about.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
They well, Kobe, you gotta you gotta understand something right
and and more, the Dame's not politics in the right
way when it's close like this, and you not like
everybody else money they made.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
But you put yourself in a situation where you gotta
go undefeated every year. Then because.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
You can't lose the first game of the season then
and then complain about it. Hey, what the fucking Northern
Illinois last year? The first game of the season. Northern Illinois,
I ain't even know they had a football team. Y'all
was counting me on this podcast the first a football
team I din't know had a football team. We lost

(38:16):
to them, y'all counting us. What we do? We run
the table, We get better. We started playing dominated football.
We get into the college football playoffs and guess what
we ended up back the national championship game. Everybody know,
if we would have got into the playoffs this year,
especially as a seven or ten seed that bracket, we'd

(38:36):
be right back in the national championship game. Wasn't nobody
playing better football to know the game in the last
seven eight weeks of the season. Nobody. The problem is
if you're not, if you're not in a conference, you don't.
It's already like like just we were talking about that. Okay, okay,
we're gonna go to the conference with James Madison. At

(38:59):
how about that, James Madison is one of the top
twelve teams in the country. Looking at y'all schedule next year,
you might as well be in James y'all. Y'all schedule
next year. He talking about we got the toughest schedule
in the country next year. You must you looking at
you must be looking at girls basketball or something not

(39:19):
not know to day football twenty twenty six. We got
the toughest, one of the toughest schedule in the country.
You ain't see our schedules crazy pull it up because
I'm like, y'all, I don't know, I thought.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
But but the coaches point Kobe, Man, the thing is,
if they're not in the conference, you can't make bold
stances like this, and you can't call out the A c. C.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
And you can't because the thing that's why we can't
know the dame.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Around the world.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
What do you say, money, We're gonna we're gonna show
the power to.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Right. Yeah, they gonna show the power of the committee.
Y'all ask gonna be at home again next year. Every year,
y'all don't run the table.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
And even if you run the table, if something goes
wacky in the other conferences, you're gonna get screwed out
of it anyway because you you can't protect this up.
Look at what just happened with the ACC. But listen,
but listen, this was This was different because this is
the first year that they got screwed. They haven't got

(40:31):
gotten screwed until this season. I don't know what happened.
I don't know what was going on with the whole
back and forth, the power struggle, and they got screwed
this season. But typically the know the thing because of
their brand, because of who they are. They get a
benefit of the doubt. That's how it's been for forever.
But what I what I overlooked is and we've been

(40:52):
talking about this on the podcast for what the last
couple of years, is how they're trying to turn this
into almost like it nfc AC type thing where you're
gonna have the Big Ten and you got the CC
and those are the two Titans. Everybody's funneling, funneling into
those conferences, and those are the teams, the power teams

(41:15):
that you see in the college football playoffs. And then
and then now you want to put these Tulane and
James Madison's in. I don't know why they did that.
That's like, that's that that's the whole how V When
UVA didn't take care of business, they left it all
up to the game, Like UVA should have beat Duke

(41:37):
and it would have been it would have hashed itself up.
But that's what happens. You leave it up to chance.
I don't care if you could, I don't care if
UVA lost that game. Eighty did nothing. They will beat
James Madison one hundred to nothing.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Come on, bruh, they got you got durn McClinton in
the playoffs. Man, come on, man, James Madison, come on, brother,
Like I told you that this this this this new era. Man,
we're getting soft because now we're giving our participation trophies.
Oh y'all did good. Y'all deserve to be in here

(42:16):
with the big dogs. Come on, come on there. We
got a spy for Tulane. We got a spy for
James Madison. Oh no to Dame. Oh yeah, y'all one
of the best five ten teams in the country. But
guess what, you're not gonna make it this year. B y.
You you had a hell of the season. You're a
dominant team. Guess what, You're not gonna make it this year.

(42:38):
I was shocked. I would I was, you know, all
climbing this side. I was shocked that they didn't because
I thought they was gonna oust Miami. Yeah, allowed that
to happen just because of the way the losses that
Miami had were bad losses and so but but just
like that, what about Alabama? What about Alabama? You we

(42:58):
continuously to give Alabama passes.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Because they play championship game.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
What so so the U b A they play in
the conference championship, but you still let James Madison get
in over there got three losses, and one of those
losses was to sorry, ass Florida State. That you old
dog for Florida State is dookie, they trash.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I mean, no, you're right, but it showed that was in.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
The conference, in the conference championship. It wasn't even a game.
It wasn't close.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Now they I mean, I think the committee takes into
an account whenever Georgia plays in the SEC championship, that's
like a home game, you know what I mean, It
really is Georgia.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
So, and it had already been you know how hard
it is to be the team twice in a in
a in a season. They had already Georgia once, you
know in Athens. Now you play a second home game.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
What about the other two losses?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I don't I mean Florida State. That was the first
game of the season, right, that was the first game
of the season. And then who else did they lose to.
It's hard for me to count first first games of
the season. I say that every year. I've been consistent
with that.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
But you want to count Miami's first game of the season, Huh.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
The reason why y'all ain't in, Kobe is the same
arrogance that you're displaying.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
On here, y'all walking on water coat. Just say that's
what y'all said. Oh and we and we got something
for the a CEC ass We got something for them
because they had their little campaign trying to push Miami
to get there. You know what I mean, Like the
a d SAL we we your biggest partner, business partner,

(44:55):
and you overhead throwing this big campaign to get Miami
into the playoffs and getting No, they ain't taking out
you know what I'm saying. I mean, what.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Kobe, that acc that Miami's in the conference conference.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
I mean, every single every single Notre Dame sports team
is a CEC except for the fool for football. But
we played but we but we have an agreement to
play five a c C games every season and we
do that. We bring a lot to the a CC.
We give we we give them a lot like team

(45:31):
like North Carolina Duke all that, man, we know to Dame.
Come in town. Man, that's the biggest man, that's the
biggest thing for them ever. Come on, bro, the conference football.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Football, wat basketball conference.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
But you're talking about a basketball We talked football and basketball.
Come on, broh, you I mean, you're gonna try to
undercutters like that, but we got stuff for them. Don't
don't worry about it, but talk about You gotta take
an account the head, the head Miami versus Noda, Dame

(46:06):
or August the thirty first, August thirty first, Know the
Dame was trying to figure out the identity. You know
what I'm saying. By the time you get five, six
weeks into the season. No, the Dame was an entirely
different team than than what they were when they played
Miami in Week one. Entirely different team. You can't tell

(46:29):
me right now today. No, the Dame isn't a much
better team than the Miami Hurricanes, and they played the
same conference game, same conference teams. Pretty much. You lose
the two unranked teams in the ACC. It's not like
ACC one of the top three four conferences in the country.
You lose the two unranked teams. You don't even you're

(46:51):
not even a representative in your conference championship. You got
Dukes seventy five playing for the ACC championship Virginia. You
got Christian Layton against Junior Barrow in the in the
damn HTC Championship, and you want to put this team
in a college football playoff and they couldn't even win there.

(47:12):
They couldn't even win the a c C.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Come on, man, they don't have nothing to do with
the schedule. It had nothing to do with any of
that is I got a chance to teach your independent
as a lesson. Now sit on the sideline and watch
these motherfucking games. That's what it. That's what it comes
down to.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yah, well look, move, move, look we look. We still
going to say we still know the day, we still
get that bread. So so when we look so in
the beginning of the games, uh, moving forward, when we
come out the tunnel, were playing Deon Sampers. Must be

(47:54):
the money, that's what we're saying. All be a society.
I am gonna miss seeing love play like That's what
I was looking forward to watching him play because he's
a special talent man, and I you know, uh he
I'm assuming he's in the final four, the Hosman running
I think his name is in that he'll be in
New Year. But I was looking forward to seeing him

(48:17):
put work in in the playoffs. That that's that's me
being selfish, just as a running back. That's a dude
man that I love watching him play, and I think
I think he would have done himself a great service
to be able to you know, to be on the
stage and how people take a look at him. Oh
like like he did last year. Like he did last year.

(48:42):
They just didn't want him to do it again. They
didn't want raised that trophy because we were going to
win the national championship. At least have a chance to
And that's real.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Well, at least y'all had a chance.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Stage. Let me let me bring cuts over. You brought
him in. He he came in in the right time.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
What y'all na go in at the wrong time. I listen,
I've been all this bullship and all this performer. Come on, man, stop,
you ain't get in.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
You and you and you guess what you just got out.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Looks.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
That's how I know to day feel. We we thought
we was in all weekend. Look, we was in. Boom,
we was in all weekend. Ninety five percent there boom.
We're not a college football player. That's how that's how,
that's how I feel.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Nah nah, Come on.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Saturday, they put the percentage they don't has a ninety
five percent chance of making the college football.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
He has got job that five percent.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I mean, I mean you you understand more than us, y'all,
y'all didn't make the college football player.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I don't understand nothing. I don't understand that. I don't
understand up.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Oh, then I.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Understand that, y'all. Y'all, y'all at home and we at home.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
What's the difference.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
What's the difference because we chose to be home, so
we chose to be home to y'all got invited to
a ball games?

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Dad, y'all ain't get invited to ship?

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yes, we did, man, we chose not to play.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
We got all what ball game y'all get invited to?
The coach Frans St.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Francis, the White Oak, the white Oak boat. It was
the white Oak Apartment the boat they was gonna play
at the They was gonna play at the at the Fountain.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
It was gonna be off the boy that don't gonna
be off the UK. I'm telling you. It was called
the White Oak Apartment's boat.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Sponsored by sponsored by oh e oh mar average but
old English, you know what I mean, all the all
the all the boosters was gonna be off there, white Head, Petey,
pretty Riggy, everybody was gonna be all there. We had
all the boosters out there.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
What you mean wasps?

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Come on, man, I go first down as the tree man.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
That don's gonna be lit. You mean.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
First down that first tree back talk? Come on? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:50):
What you mean?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Who? But let's so so you already what's your predictions
in the college football playoffs? Who who you got representing
in a in a championship game, and who who you
got ultimately winning? It's gonna be tough, man, because uh

(52:15):
this is I don't I don't. I don't see no real,
no real true dominant team right now, Vegan saying, watch
your for the mighty mighty ug.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Don't who said that.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Any anybody can win it right now? League? Uh that though,
because you look at you, look at jam you playing
Oregon and then the winner gets Texas Tech. Texas Tech
their offense ain't worth for damn but their defense is
damn near perfect. Like their defense is crazy. So I

(52:59):
don't think Texas Set can really do anything with Oregon's offense,
but you never know. And then Oklahoma Alabama. Either one
of them can beat Indiana at any time, I mean,
any one of them teams come out of there. Old Miss.
I think Georgia has the cleanest route. I don't know
if old I don't even know who's gonna play for

(53:20):
Old Miss against Georgia and then Miami. Who is that Miami,
Texas Old Miss played Georgia though, if they, if they,
if Tulane, if Tulane, if Old Miss beats Too Lane,
that's they that's they get to Georgia. So so so

(53:41):
if Old Miss, huh, that's that's that's how we know.
That's that's what I'm saying, you know, Lane, No, no, No,
What I'm saying is is everybody planning for Old Miss
because some of them muses opted out playing.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
They don't need them, no matter who was playing for,
they don't need them. They don't need them. All the
guys that said too Lane, they wish they could be
an Old Miss.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Hey, And that's what that's what they might be. They
might go out there put on the show. Brother.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
They they unless they already unless they was at LSU,
unless they i'mbouna say, unless they was at l s
U and they wasn't getting no plans.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Transport like that transport, it's people in the transh bron say.
Because Indiana quarterback then, wasn't he wasn't that Indiana. He
came from somewhere else, right, matter of fact, I think
it was too.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Lane and all them cats, all them casters, y'all keep
talking about Jim You all them casters playing right now
for Indiana came from j m U except for the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
At the end of the day, they're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Since you're so confident in the time you got let's
see what Darren mc clinton do in the first round.
They got Organ? Who they play Organ? That was the
that was the jam Clinton Organ.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be good for him
not playing or it's in Orgon, it's in Uggs. Tough.
That's tough.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Y'all got December. Back in September, old Mens and Tulane
played and it we're like fifty ten.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
That's what I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yeah, this f why, no, I mean, it should be
it should be a clear shot. The only the only
game I seen the truth getting to take How you
see the words he using coach man, what are we
doing here. I'm just being because again, end of the day,
you gotta I thank you. I believe you got a
turn of motive when when you start because I'm using, Hey,

(55:57):
if old myth be tulane and yeah, I'm just I'm
just saying I think, I think, I think. I'm just
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, brother,
you're talking to a dude to play D three ball
and we used to kick Virginia texts ass every year.
I'm just saying, opportunity given.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
For proof of that.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah, you you can't.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Just see it's no way possible. You're saying a D
three school be Virginia taxis every.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Next time, next time, next time, Christy, next time.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Chris Michael Jordan tellig, I'm telling I questioned everybody you can't.
You can't. That's like, that's like you're telling you what
I'm saying. Why do I gotta ask, Chris Ward, why
can't Why can't you say.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
We go to.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
The video tape or we go to the to the
internet out what years you said? I got you was.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Game. It was just it was just a game, Like
it's just a game. But at the end of the day,
all the bullshit aside. You laced him up, you play
the game, you play the FU game.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Wait a minute, wait wait no, no, no, no, no,
we're not going into twenty twenty. I no see Kobe
trying to be funny. I'm being serious. I want to
know because I think that I think that's dope.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
What I'm saying is when we played when we played
against Virginia Tech, it wasn't a scheduled game. It was
a screamist game, I give you that, but we played
against them. We whooped the ass when we played against them,
A division it was not. But again.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
It's not a regular season game.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. But my point is
we still line up.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
That's what That's why, that's why, that's why I was acting.
That's why I'm saying that. That's why I'm being shocked
because I know, I don't I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
We're saying that met him.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no,
you know, I'm not going you're talking about y'all played
like some seven or seven We just.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
No, just like we were scrimm jhim every year. We
were scrimm jam every year, like like before the season start,
we were screaming. But at the end of the day,
with what I'm saying, when I'm saying, when we when
these guys go a line up and play, anything can happen.
Anything that happened, Kobe has left the building when UVA played,

(59:00):
when UVA played Florida State, Fellers, that we don't We
don't been through that.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I ain't even I didn't even know that teams was
allowed to scrimmage other football teams and n C coach.
I ain't know that that must have been that much
they must that must have been before Virginia Tech was
in the n C Double.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Let Nah, bro, this was back in ninety what was
eighty what I can't I can't ninety ninety year, ninety
ninety one. We've finished them every year. I was there
for two years.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
So hey, we coach. But bottom line, up front, they
at y'all, they're gonna get their ass.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
No, but I'm just I'm getting gonna be to the
fact that these dudes are lining up and playing football
right and anything, anything can happen. So it should be
it should be Oregon Texas Tech. Mm hmm, it should
it would be I don't know who's gonna come out

(01:00:01):
of Alabama Oklahoma game? Yeah, that's also and then either
one of them teams can beat Indiana. I don't you know.
So the only clear the only clear one that I
see is Georgia having to clear a sleep because again
old Miss Tult, I don't think either one of those teams,
even fully loaded, could mess with Georgia because Georgia is

(01:00:22):
a good team. Georgia is a great team, and they're
playing good football right now. And then I don't see
anybody beating Ohio State coming out of I mean who Miami,
Texas A and m I don't see either one of
them two teams beaten Ohio State. So said Georgia beat

(01:00:44):
Indiana for the championship.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I say the Georgia and Ohio State me personally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
So who would who would it be? Uh Texas Tech
or Oregon playing Indiana, Georgia planting Ohio State? Yeah, I
guess Indiana has a because again I don't see Texas
Texas offense been able to score points on on Indiana.

(01:01:15):
But who knows uh that Georgia, that Georgia Ohio State. Man,
I would say the winner of that that game, the
winner of that game would be your champion. Yeah, Georgia
Ohio State. Whoever, whoever is the winner of that game,
I would say they would be the champion. Who whatever

(01:01:35):
winner comes out of the Georgia Ohio State game, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
The championship for me. Yeah, yeah, I mean Georgia Ohio State.
If they make it there, that's my championship, my bag.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I lost service, fellas, but I'm trying. I ain't get
a chance to hear you explain what you were saying, Coach,
I lost services.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I was just saying. I was saying to clear the
winner between the Georgia Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
State No no, no, no, no no no no, no, no,
I'm talking about the Virginia Tech and the Firman.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Thing I want.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
I didn't get a chance to hear you explained, Like,
how y'all, I ain't get a chance to hear that.
Go ahead, I want what I'm saying. I'm saying because
you said y'all scrimmage. You said y'all scrimmaging. What I'm saying,
is it y'all scrimmage with pass?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Is it over? Did y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Was it like y'all worked out with them or or
y'all saying you had coaches out there and y'all had
a real live scrimmage game, were scrimmaging them. We would
play them every year. Okay, that's cool, that's all I need.
It's perfect. Okay, some more money.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
You gotta winning it all?

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Based off of what coach Milton just laid out, I
like Georgia to win it all because Georgia has to
play Ohio State. I think Ohio State has been a
team that's kind of skated by and the last week
we saw them get a little exposed and a game
against Indiana as far as the physical nature of Indiana

(01:03:03):
up front. So I like, I like Georgia this year,
to be honest with you, but I would Ohio State winning.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
What What is Georgia's because again I don't really pay
attention to Georgia. What is the running game like? Because
that's that's that's that would be the difference against Ohio State.
If you can run the ball against Ohio State, you
stand a chance against Ohio State. George, what your running
game look like?

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Bro? It's nice?

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Who is that running back? I don't know much about
the running back. I just they talk about the quarterback
all the time, and the defense I don't know who
the running back is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
They got a committee because Georgia keeper committee. That's how
that's how they run it. It's a running back. They
got a speedback, they got a power back, and then
they got a back that that's really nice out the backfield.
But so they can hit you in any of those things.
And then, like you said, Stockton is proven as a quarterback.
He's pretty good. My problem with Ohio State is sometimes

(01:04:01):
saying doesn't play well, and I mean he didn't really
play all that well against Michigan, to be honest with you,
from what I saw, I mean, they got some plays.
Jeremiah Smith made some plays, but he missed it. He
left a lot on the field. And then last week
against Indiana, he definitely left some plays on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
And then and then to be honest too, Ohio State,
I think they got three or four guys, some of
their main guys not even playing in the game because
they enter into the draft, which I don't know if
that's gonna make sense, because I think that the safety's
not playing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
No Cat Caleb is not playing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, he's not playing, and I think, uh,
I think one of the other corners is not playing
But I think that was predetermined. I think they knew
that wasn't a shock to the team. I think that
was already predetermined. But Ohio State reloads every year, so
they got they got somebody that can you know, that's
gonna step in and do whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
But not right now though, Like they got a guy
better than Caleb Downs, I ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Seen well not better, but you know, no it ain't.
It ain't too many of us better than that dude.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Yeah, because he doesn't so much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
They keep him in the train brown there though they
keep him, they keep him in the trainer. Well they
do well. The thing about Caleb is you can move
him around. He makes the defense interchangeable. Yeah, he makes
the defense interchangeable. So you can do a lot with him,
which allows them to to to to disguise a lot
of stuff out there because you can bring him from anywhere.
He can cover, he can you know, he can come

(01:05:25):
down in the box, you can blitz him, and so
he frees up those corners to really get after it.
So but again, Ohio State, Georgia, those teams they reload.
They gotta get kids sitting on this alum may not
be better, but they definitely get out there and hold
it down. So so, like I said, I think Georgia
the winner between the Georgia Ohio State game, that that

(01:05:50):
should be a champion. But again if Indiana, if Indiana
take care of business, I don't, it won't shock me
if they win it because they got They've already beaten
Ohio State, so wouldn't shot. But I think I think
they have. Ohio State is still the favorite to win.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
It all, if I'm not mistake, if not of all
them players ain't playing do they do they know that
that Caleb Downs ain't playing it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Somebody man, you think they're announce But I think they're
still They're still the overall favorite to win it. I
believe numbers one percentage wise.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Mhm, that's crazy. That's great. What you think, Kobe, You ain't.
You ain't give us your pick? What you think?

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
I don't have a pick. I'm boycott.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Oh that's right, that's all the power.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
The power the cat. I'm not watching one. I'm not
watching one. I'm not watching one down of college football
moving forward until next season. So you you not no
bowl game, no National championship game, no first round, no

(01:06:56):
second round, no third round. Thank goodness for basketball season.
I will be glued into college basketball, NBA basketball, and wow,
you you are boycotting the rest of the playoffs. That's
that's why we are doing it. You see, you ain't
on it. You ain't on the You ain't gonna know

(01:07:16):
the Dame group chat.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
We all we.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Iris Catholic stand up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
At least scout man. You're a Ravens fan, you know
what I mean? Look at some of the top players
in the countries. Who could he could wear that? Uh
you know that raven on the side of.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
The Yeah, we got number four love. He needed to
be in Baltimore and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
He ain't gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Coach, I known it. He should, he should be talking.
He should be coming out with top five, top five.
I don't. I don't know how high he's gonna go.
But they say he will be the first running back
taking Yeah, definitely the first.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Running back if anything. Keep him down there to be positional.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
We don't win him real bad though, more money.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Oh hell yeah, we do. Hell yeah. I mean the
run on the street is if you know, we get
our top ten pick like we're supposed to, he's not
gonna make it past top ten.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Hold on what you got who you got hold off?

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
I got who we're talking about winning that joint, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
I got I got Ohio State winning.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
I think he's gonna do the same thing they did
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
I think Ohio State got to awakened like they did
a few years ago. As far as them losing Caleb down,
so what it's time for him to go anyway, you
gotta reload. At one point in time, Sean Springs then
Shawn Springs was on the bench and one of the
players left, and Shawn Springs got his opportunity when the
guy had before him played and went to the league.

(01:08:54):
And Sean was able to get his first good bump
and start when he was in the bowl game in
the Citrus Bowl back in the day. So that's been
going on for years. I think it's just next man up.
They just gonna reload, just like they do it Georgia.
I think he's gonna don't know if Georgia, Georgia, Ohio
State on the same side, yeah, I think though. I
think it's gonna be the final four, Georgia, Ohio State.

(01:09:17):
I think Texas A and m got it away. I
think Texas A and them gonna play. I think they're
gonna make it to the final four.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Texas A and m Is Texas and will be one
of the teams that will play Ohio State if they
if they come out.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
I thought tea and was on the other side. So
who's on the other side on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
The other side is jam U Oregon, Alabama, Oklahoma and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
And d also Alabama.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
The Miami Miami, Miami, Texas A and m will the
winner would play.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
No, I don't think. I don't think. I don't think.
I'm not even though the quarterback has played better than ship.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
I just think he's going to UH.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
I think he's gonna people. They're gonna put him in
a tough situation and he's not going to do as
well as UH. I don't think he's going to do
that good. So, but I think Ohio State's going to
win it. I think they're gonna reload. I don't I know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
The defensive end can't leave the one. Number eight, he
can't leave because he's only a sophomore or a redshirt freshman.
Number eight he can't leave. Came down for leave in
the corner, the one that got beat. He needs to
leave anyway good bye. I think, yes, he's only a sophomore.
He has to control both of the styles is coming back,

(01:10:40):
the safety and the and the brother and the what
car they're gonna play for? The simple factor is their dad.
Their dad ain't having that. That's a tradition those that's
a legacy right there. So they ain't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
They're not going nowhere. So I know for a fact
they're going. They're gonna play. So yeah, that's just my
man on the side.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I gotta I got an administration going tomorrow that
I gotta go to tomorrow. They just told me this,
and uh, I just had to pick up a I
was trying to pick up like a little like a
Christmas shirt because I didn't r s v P to
go to the Christmas party.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
But the principal just said you gotta go. I said, man,
I'm not no principal. Man, I'm suspending kids. How do
I gotta go to the Christmas park?

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
She she just came to my money.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
You hear him say he's suspending kids.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Two days. Oh, I haven't talked to you money more.
Oh two days.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
That's what I made a kid freestyle the other day
in the middle of class. I said, you want to
be a jokester. You want to get up and you
want to play around all the time in class and
you want okay, go to your platform here, you go
to stage of yours.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
So so he got nervous. He didn't do it. So
I said, Okay, this on I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
I'm gonna get today's Tuesday when I come in here,
because they don't have school on Friday. So I said,
when I come here on Thursday, if you don't have
your freestyle ready, you will be suspended for two days.
He killed it, knocked it out the box. So that's
what it's about. But anyway, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I'm in here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
But no, that's how I feel. I think they're gonna
do it. They ain't got a raise, ain't no shot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Yeah, y'all play the college football playoffs, man, I'm sure
it's gonna be entertaining.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Well, you just sounded like like you sound like the
rest of you, sound like the rest of the Notre
Dame fans.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Right, we stick together?

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
You should, y'all. You want to come over there and
hang out with us? You wanna come hang with us? No?

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Why why.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Today we were both at home?

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
You might as well. You might as well come over
and hang out with us.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
Know today, Yeah we moved home.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
But our houses looking a little different, you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Right, But it don't look different. It ain't gonna look
different on this more is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
More comfortable where we at. It's more comfortable. We at, y'all, y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Bet it ain't gonna look different for this bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
The boxing. Man, Hey, we we started with boxing. Why
is it that they never advertised these damn fights?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Man, I don't know, coach, I've been saying the same
thing for years, and I ain't even watched the I'm
be honest, I ain't watch the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Promoters.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I don't know. I ain't know it was happening. It
was a PBC.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
It was a PBC fight. It was it was on
PBC and you you, you had to you stumble across
the damn thing. I didn't even know they were fighting.
Everybody talking about you. Yeah. The only the only fight
that I've heard about, which is crazy is damn the
Jake Paul fight that's supposed to be coming up next weekend,

(01:14:08):
the weekend after next against Joshua. I ain't even fight.
I ain't even know she was fighting till till femo
on in February. Really, yeah, that's gonna be a nice fight.
Where is that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
I got to get that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
And because I was talking to uh, talking to one
of one of the guys named Silk out here, who
you know, he's heaving a box and we were I
didn't even know they were fighting. He was talking about
the road fight. So I'm like, man, why they, why they?
Why they don't advertise these fights?

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Man, Christal Shields fighting two weeks? Christ still fights in
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
You hear more about her fight than the damn Alicia
Bam Gardener that's her name, right, She fighting like another
couple of weeks. Yeah, they got to do better. But
Roach just gonna have to knock somebody out. Man, They
keep that dude. He got off to a slow start,
he got tagged in the third round, and let that

(01:15:06):
dude bully him a little bit. You know, I think
all the way through the seventh I think the seventh round,
the dude got a point taken away from him something
and then he you know, Roach was able to back
him off, you know, but I think he just got
back behind too early and he left it up to
the judges. Man, and they screwed him again. I agree, though,

(01:15:29):
you know he's just gonna have to knock him up.
He's gonna have to knock somebody out. Man. That's that
because that's the second that's crazy that that's the second
fight he'dne lost to a majority draw. Yeah, that's crazy.
I mean I watched the fight. I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Know the Dame got something in common with him because
he you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Know, look, look look Lamar wrote a good fighter right here,
a good fighter, but he not one of those ones,
you know what I mean. He's not somebody that's gonna
go and dominate a fight. I don't think he has

(01:16:10):
tremendous power until I know he was like, go knock
somebody out. I don't think he got that in him.
I just think he's a good boxer. He'll he'll get
he'll he'll win rounds, get points. But when you fighting
somebody like a pit bull cruise that's aggressive, that's trying
to knock your head off, you know what I mean,
it's gonna make the fight look clear close then what

(01:16:33):
it really is, just because you seeing that aggressively and
those power shots where Lamart roach. He's good, he's technical,
but it's nothing but it's nothing that wilds you about
his his fight game, you know what I mean. So
anytime anytime that anytime to fight it is close, he
is going to happen. He's going to have a draw,
or he's gonna lose. I mean, I just don't see him.

(01:16:57):
He's a he's a second tier fighter.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
I agree, Yeah, I agree, I agree, But they still
need to advertise them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Tho. Guys still need to advertise it. Like that's crazy. Whenever,
whenever you go to barbershop at Paul is getting all
the headlines. It is crazy. That's that's insane that they
allowed that to happen, for him to dominate the boxing headlines.
That that's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Matter of fact. The coach's point. They had a super
card fight. It was like five fights on there that
was top tier, and I stumbled on that on accident.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
I didn't even know they was fighting because the only
fight I knew about this weekend was the damn UFC fight.
You know that. But that's the same thing that happened. Well,
it was a few weeks ago when death handed that
that whole card for I didn't know they were fighting
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Ke that's yeah, Car, every fight was legit and I stumbled.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
On him because because because what's up the one dude
name O Money. I wanted to see him fight bad too,
and I missed him. I think I think he fought
the first fight on that card, young black dude, be man,
he was getting busy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Yeah, not boots enis uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Not hell or No that boots young boy. You're talking
with the little skinny cat, the skinny cat that's always or.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Damn, I can't think of his name. I know you're
talking about. He had a good fight too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Man, He's he's a he's a button superstar, like he's
going to be great.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
What the whole card was great? Like I want to say,
that was like ninety percent of boxing was on that
card and it wasn't propped up on ESPN. It wasn't
propped up anywhere. Because that's the problem with these contractual
you know contracts. Now, back in the day, ESPN didn't
didn't host the fight, but they still advertised they would
still show the press offers and things like that. But

(01:19:02):
now with these network deals, they don't even show the
press conference.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Yeah, yep, I don't know, man, they gotta do better,
like y'all said, like we like it's some good fights
that come on every month that your average boxing fan
with would never know. Yep that that till female Chacor
fight should be really really good. That should be Yeah,
I think that's I think that's February thirty first. I believe.

(01:19:30):
I think it's the end up either in the It
may be the end of January, my bag. Maybe not
can't be January because that's New Year's Eve, February thirty first,
and uh Jake Paul fake fight Joshua on the nineteenth.
I believe I'm watching it more money. Abdulham Mason Abdulla Mason. Yeah,

(01:19:51):
I wanted to see him fight bad Man, and I
missed it because I didn't even know the fights was on.
It's a classes here is it? What wealth? Wait? Of course.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
I think he's a world to weight. I'm pretty sure
he's a wealth tweight.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Let me see the Mason. There's a lightweight lightweight.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Lightweight and I ain't know us stand man, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Mm hmm, yeah, but I'll catch him. But I did
get to see Ben and Vitas fight, and then of
course I saw the Handy fight, which which was too well.
I'm glad I got to start up those two fights.
But that, Yeah, that entire car was was was like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Yeah, that that was the best too. On the on
the night the Mason fight wasn't really that good because
he kind of dominated, uh, to be honest with Yeah,
but Carissa Shields though, Man, y'all, y'all gotta watch her live,
should be in it. I think about two weeks watch
her get in that ring.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
It's it's because, I mean, at the end of the day,
there's times where female boxes kind of dominate their their
side of the sport, and she's doing that right now.
I don't know why. Hearing Bumguarden and won't fight. I
think they're both terrific fighters, but they kind.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Of that's the way.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Oh it's the way difference, Yeah, it's the way she
how much we're talking, I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Think it's too two or three weight classes. She she's small.
Who getting in the ring with? Who the hell does
she find the fighter?

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I don't know, But whoever it is, they go the fighter,
though they do well the last.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Fight the fighters because they're gonna ain't mean to cut
you off my bad money, Moore.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
They probably line up the fighter because they know that's
their biggest payoup. I'll go in there and try to
get some bread to try if I could. So So.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Is a super featherweight really?

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Yeah, Yeah, they'll never fight.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Yeah, that's she's small. She's small.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
They'll never fight.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Then, I know, I know. Clarissa says she's gonna fight
two more fights and then she taking Tom off to
have a baby or.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Something, her and Papoosa. But there's no competition at this point.
She's just putting her legacy on the line, you know
what I mean. Because the last fight she fought that
that young lady wasn't scared. Man, she was not scared.
She was going toe to toe unto about round three
and then it was over.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Yeah. They all until they until they don't blocked. Yeah.
Because the thing with Clarissa, man, she can change up
the South like you can't. You can't figure her out, man.
She can she can box, she can slug. Then she
can get in there and just fuck with your head
a little bit like she and she and she can
put on like she puts on the show for the

(01:22:52):
fans because, like she said, she give the fans the
money worth. So she just in there doing the own thing, man.
And it's it's like I said, it's a great payday
for people. But don't nobody really stand a chance with her?
Like they're standing in there with for a little bit
and then she tagging one time and it's over with,
Like she get them up out of there, you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Know, because go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Now said, because she always complains, because if she does
certain things, they always criticize her if she if she
dominates the fight one where they always say what she
can't do? So she tries to mixes it up, and
she's like she's tired of trying to just please everybody,
and she's like, the hell with it, you know, I'm
just gonna go in and do my thing and get
the hell out of there. So, yeah, you know, she's

(01:23:35):
two different errors. But in your opinion, who who do
you think is a better fighter? Clarissa Shills or or
Leyla Lee?

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Carissa Shills for me and her prime Leayle wasn't even
the best fighter, and she wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
The best fighter in her problem. Yeah, and was the
one trick.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
No, who's better than.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
What's what's the Saint Jeans St?

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
John?

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Whatever the name is? You think she was the best?

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
What was her name? She was knocking motherfuckers out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
She was just politician, was just talking about her. Oh
the one that got the movie, the one got the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Yeah, yeah, she might got.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
She was tough. She was like, dude, white chick, white
chick fighting dudesyea, knock the motherfuckers out. Yeah that's what.
That's what Clivers said. You're coming after me and you
want even the best fight in your era. Like matter
of fact, she was just at the movies. Christy Martin,

(01:24:46):
Christy yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Christy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Christy Martin make a statement that she wanted to come
out of retirement and said she would come out of it. Yeah,
she said she would come out of and Clarisa told
the same thing, you're too old, stay put.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Why would she? She just want money?

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
That bad man, like keep trying it, but that's what
But Clarissa gave her her flowers. Clarissa was like, if
I had to, she said she would be a better
fight than Laila because she just felt like Chris Martin
was a better fighter. So she gave her flowers but
told her to stay stay put. You know, I'm I'm
the I'm the I'm the talk of the town now.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
So hey, no, you know, I ain't get a chance
to hear who you said was the best rapper?

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
We got to it yet, matter of fact, that's a
good transition. Let's talk about it. So so so Game
posted some on Instagram. I think he was being interviewed
by Shannon Shock and uh Shannon Shop asked him who

(01:25:54):
the best rapper from Compton is first and and and
Game said it was him, without a doubt. And then
he changed it to like, who's the best rapper on
the West Coast? He like me, like, it's not even
close basically, so so so Shan was like, what like

(01:26:18):
for real life ice Cube and he named some names
and all that. He was like, he like, ice Cube
can't fuck with me, Like nobody from n w A
came fuck with me, and you know, and Snoop can't
fuck with me, like he said he I remember, you know,
I came out after them, so you know they's the
o G. So I took this and pieces from them
and you know, added to what I got shop from

(01:26:40):
the Sword, so they can't be better than me. So
and then he tried to use the analogy, like, you know,
the kind of the same way Kobe took from Jordan's
Like when when Kobe was at his prime. Jordan couldn't
fuck with No Kobe like so, so he was, he was,
he was, he was all over the place. But I
want to get you guys take on that, like, is

(01:27:02):
this cap or no cap?

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Oh, it's one hundred percent cap.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Please explain it's a hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Nothing. The fact that he said that Jordan Kobe thing,
that's all I needed to hear. So I don't have
an opinion on that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
I'm not gonna let him get me in the Lord
of So go ahead, y'all got it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
I'm gonna say it like this, when you when you
think of the West Coast, or even if you think
of Confident, the game is not the first rapper, the
second raffer, or even the third rapper that come to
your mind for the West Coast. You know what I mean?
It could have been. He's a talented individual, but he
messed He messed that up on the business side of it.
You understand what I mean. He's not the top selling

(01:27:42):
artists of all time. He doesn't have the most his
he's not the most impactful. So I don't know what
category does he think he's the best. He's not the
most lyrical. Kensel Lamar is so lyrical that he wraps
hisself out of my playlist because I don't know what
the hell he talking about. Sometimes that's how lyrical he is.
Shit just be going on over my head. I'm sorry,
kense Lamar, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
So what.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Are you the best thing this? I don't get him, man,
but k do for me. Even though I'm not like
the best Kense Lamar fan. With you you you would
have to say he's probably the best rapper on the
West Coast right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
But but I mean, I mean, I guess you can
get to him. I'm I like, I like k now.
I just think he overrated. I don't think he is
nice as people try to make him mouth to be.
But back the game, Game was saying she's the best
rapper from the West Coast all time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Oh all time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
That I just sent y' all quarterback from E forty.
He can't mess with that. Like, I went back and
just because we were talking about game, I went back
and listened real quick to he was on. He shared
a song with Kendrick Lamar, he shared a song with
uh uh who else? He nipsy, he shipt like he

(01:29:05):
won't even the best rapper on his own song with
those dudes guest appearance for like you know, featuring them dudes.
He is talented. But but the only song that that
that he had that that I like from him is
It's Okay and that that had that little the little
reggae tune to it. He had the two songs that

(01:29:28):
he did with what was it dream and put Your
Game on? Put your Own Game?

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
After that, all that was with fifty so man that
I'm glad at least said it best. The d OC
man growing up, that was one of my faith before
you got in that car accident. That was one of
my favorite rappers from the West Coast. He not He
not messing with the d O C produces, he raps.
He not messing with Snoop Dog. None of them know.

(01:29:53):
That's with none of them old school rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Really south though, if you really get technical.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Yeah, because he from me from tech This is right.
People take Dallas from Dallas.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Yeah, so it is Tupac really from Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
I got.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
We're gonna consider Tupac from the West Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
I take Tupac is East Coast. To me, I don't
even put him in that conversation. He's not a West.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
To me, he's definitely he's definitely to me, he's definitely
not an East Coast rapper. So I don't ask what
I'm asking.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Yeah, I'm put Tupac West Coast because most of the
impact that he made was out in the West Coast.
Once he got into the rap game, it was mostly
West Coast.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Well, what we're talking about, if it's if Tupac on
the west, we get in this now in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
I'm just I'm just throwing names out there. I'm not
even I'm not debating. I'm just doing names.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Of people. What about ice Cube?

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
What about ice Cube?

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Lyrical wise?

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Ice Cube?

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
When he was Jack for Beats and I'm talking about
this old you know you were talking about all time.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
I'm talking about like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
I mean, I got some songs, but you know you
could put up ice Cube joints.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
I mean when he came out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
I meant to get ice c was tough man back
in the day. He did write all the lyrics.

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
Everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
When when it comes when it comes to the lyrical
MC from the West Coast, I think, hands down, ice
Cube gotta be number one out of all of them.
I don't know, I don't know another West Coast rapper
that that was lyrically better than Iceque where ice Cube
was really out there doing it like Tupac. When when
you talk about rap, people don't really talk about Tupac

(01:31:41):
for his lyrical skills. I mean, he's a really good rapper,
but Tupac was different, Like he's in his own category.
It's like, it's hard to it's hard to rate Tupac.
Tupac is like Steph Perry to me, it's hard to
rate them. They like in their own category that you
really don't know how to to evaluate him and put
him in like the the pantheon of all the great

(01:32:04):
so so that I mean, he's in his own category.
But far as lyrical, MC definitely going with ice Q.
But I don't want to take nothing from Game because
Game has shown Game, especially when he first came out
Game Game was spending some fire. He can rap, he talented,
can rack and rap. He talented, but he ain't the

(01:32:25):
best of nothing. Yeah, I would say I would say lyrically,
lyrically top three to me, just just my list, lyrically
top three will be ice Cube, Young Young Snoop and Nipsy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Hut and That's what I was gonna say too, that
that young Snoop where he was spinning in the same
back I'm talking about on one eight on deep Cover,
and I'm talking about on and people don't realize, like
Snoop said, he wrote damn near the whole chronic for
Doctor Dray Doctor d Yeah him Dad, and don't forget

(01:33:01):
about corrupt, corrupt from corrupt from Philly. But yeah, corrupt
was a monster out there. So I'm like, Damn, that's
that's a lot of that's a lot of people said
to say you're better than but hey, maybe that's.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Just how you feel.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
I mean, does he got a new album coming out?

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
He made he was allowed ten years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
He made No he done made the album since then,
you just ain't listened to it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
Sometimes he had a song with Meat Mills.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Sometimes I look at it like this, take game's best song.
It didn't take ice Cube best song?

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Oh no, it's not question, Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Take take game's best song. Take Snoop one of Snoop
Dogg's best songs, no question, but okay, but the.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Game was coming from I don't think he was. He
was talking about like songs he was talking about talking.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
About lyrics, talking about I'm talking about lyrics because I
put on Bump Bump on on Snoops joint and play
and let and fast forward at the snoops part and
just let everybody listen to it when he goes crazy,
and and then we could put on games thing when
you know lyric wid like you said a young snooping.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
About uncle und bars that a hundred bars. He was like,
you gotta get a hundred and I can go ice
Cue and I could go by problem ice c talking
for a beach.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
The problem I got with game Cove, Old Dog and
coach he recycled his bars because it's some of the
same stuff you heard from the honey bars. It was
in something else and it was on something else. So
I don't I don't know if that was like original
content now with like to Old Dog's point back in
the day, that was a no no. So I know
what Old whatever ice Cube was spitting was original.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Ice Crew.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
Ice Cub did that jacket boar beats. That motherfucker did
that joint on on four different beats.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
That ship.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
When he did that jack and for a beat ship,
that ship was crazy. And then he and yeah, then
he then he then he went on every last one
of the motherfuckers in India, n w A, when the
motherfuckers was at the top of the world, and that
motherfucker went at all the motherfuckers And that's that's just tough.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
He said that. He said, he said that one. That
that one, this made him the best group of all
that motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
That motherfucker ice Cube and Snoop.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
That's that's that's some ship.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
To say the best effort.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
I ain't even talking about selling records and ship like that.
I'm just saying, man, it was some man's some West
Coast motherfuckers talk that ship. God damn until you're better
than you're better than too short like too short, too
short talk some ship. Now, lyric wise, it might not
be our style of lyrics, but them, nigga, but we
all know people from the Bay they live by too short, right,

(01:36:07):
So And like I said, yeah, he forty, I think
it's your cup of tea. But regardless, that's that's a
bold ass statement for it for the game to come
and say some ship like that, that's crazy the best
ever I see if he said right now, because if
he would have a real good argument between him and
Kendrick tomorrow. But but but when you start adding the

(01:36:31):
greats in it, man, let them let them chill. Man,
you don't need to bring up their name. Let them chill.
In my opinion, that is my opinion, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Yeah, dead on.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
I don't know, like that's that's crazy, Like I don't
I feel like I'm I'm you know, I'm one of
the best to ever fucking touch of football and if
fucked not just the state of Maryland fucking d MV.
But I ain't gonna sit up there and say, motherfucker
that that motherfucker over in Anadale, What is you that

(01:37:08):
motherfucker down there in Prince William County or mother You gotta,
you gotta, you gotta be careful, bro, when you when
you talk Leonard Green, you know it's some people, it's
some bad motherfuckers out there. Bro, you gotta be careful
when you say that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
You're talking about you talking about one of the deepest,
one of the deepest areas of rap like that that
the area is, Yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
You talk about the Gold School Rappers, rap roops. That
was that was tough that people forget about like you know,
you had the far side, you had souls of a mischief.
You had bro.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
About Say what about em C? What about m C A.
You can't m C at one song? Man? Come on, man,
it ain't no B.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
Did you quick as he put most of the Death
Row songs on.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Come on, bro, you gotta he got it. He gotta relax, Bro.
They got to relax. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
But the game does ship like that. That's why, in
my opinion, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Why do your album coming out money more. That's why
I asked you, wasn't it does he have a matter
of fact, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
About to go on looking he gotta think you he
got he got to.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
Speaking. You knows.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
Here I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
I think he just went on speaking of the new albums.
Friday light Years. Now you better get it. This greatest
of all the greatest of all time, this Friday light Years.
He's back with DJ Premier.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Already got it, already got it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect no less from you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
Can I'm look, I'm I put I put it up
on the uh he got a joint. I put it
in the group text. I thought, I ain't put the
song in the groove text.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
No, put the song, but I ain't. I ain't know
you had the whole the whole bang.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
It's called it's called all for the Cash here, I'm
putting it in the group text right now? Hold on, yeah,
the whole now maybe now he got a joint with
this joint right head is it with green Land group
chest y'all looking check and see.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
And he only got and he only got one feature
on the entire album, and that's a z.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Oh yeah, who is this?

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
Who is this with this with?

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
DJ Green Oh, this is DJ green Lantern. So he
put out a mixtape. So NAS put out a Mixtape's
DJ green Landing and NAS and DJ Premier and this
joint right that that song, that song right there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
He got a whole.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
He got twenty He got twenty five songs. Some of
some of his old songs were over a new some
of his old songs over like a new beat and
stuff like that, and the other ones is uh he
just going crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
The other ones he yeah, he going crazy. But some
some of it's just old songs that he just wrapped
over a new you know, over a different beat, but
then he got joints like that song. I just put
in the group text where it's a totally different song.
And that's probably some of the songs is gonna be
on the album Code Green because Green Lander and DJ
Premier did it. They did it together.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Yeah, I heard that. I heard the single from the album,
the single that was tough. He was flowing, So I'm
looking for it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
At this point, is putting our music just just to
chill because he can. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
He putting it out for us because we tired of
this bullshit that's coming.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Out everything, everything that Master Peel put out this year.
What's the best ship on on on the in the
on the market, bro. Everything he's put out this ship,
whether it was ghost Face, Rape, Kwan Min, dep Slick Rick,
he just put out, uh what's their name? Damn who

(01:41:18):
Dave Day?

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
Oh yeah, he just saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
I saw that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
I saw I saw that he got because he got
because he on that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
He on the album. He on that he on the
album because if you listen, you are the album.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
If you watched, if.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
You watch Jada in Fat Joe when when Day Lost
Soul was on Jada Kitschen Fat Joe podcast. They Day
Lost Souls on there and they played the song with Nas.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Nas was killing that jump.

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
Yeah yeah, I look.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
I like this though this conversation, man, because it was
a time they were like, who's the best rapper? Nas,
jay Z, except or et cetera. If you just let
time play out, you know, talent or rise to the top,
because it's no question that Nas is the greatest MC
of all time to meet.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
Speaking of, speaking speaking of, speaking of, speaking of, speaking of,
speaking of rappers. Did y'all see that picture on the
social media with Navs, I mean, with jay Z and
and and he got him. It got him looking sort
of like the devil man with the with the lips
and the I mean with the fake Uh. It was

(01:42:32):
like a cartoon, but they were trying to put it
like towards that old devil worshiping what's it called, what's
it called? The Illuminati stuff? Do y'all do y'all truly
believe in with so many people talking about gatekeeping and
howards out now and if you watch the the the

(01:42:52):
Netflix serige with the Diddy thing or whatever the case
may be, do you all believe like that it is
truly like a secret underworld like what Mike be talking
about and stuff like that, like gatekeeping because I won't
or or when when if you if you can, if

(01:43:14):
you guys, look up what's his name? The light skinned
brother that played in the Best when Church Howard talk
about how he did he try to try to basically
try to you know what him you know what I'm saying,
and how he kept inviting him talking about you want
to be an acting coach, but wouldn't up what he
was never did any acting, Always try to get him

(01:43:35):
to hang out, party and drink, and he just wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
Going for it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
Like do you feel like it's an underworld?

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
I don't know about the underworld, but I do know
that in that culture, if you demasculate somebody that you
know you pretty much own them at that point. I
think they're so powerful that they do that. They do
it to men and women. You know, it's how much
you willing to give up to make it in life,
and that's in those surface are you, babe, Like you're

(01:44:08):
willing to give up your soul? Right right?

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
I mean you got and you gotta look at it too.
You keep hearing the same names come up. You hear
Oprah Winford, you hear jay z, you hear like you
hear the same names coming up when it comes to
the gate keeping the power moves, all of the illuminati stuff,
how they're how they are attached to, some of the
political figures. When all this stuff starts, look like it

(01:44:33):
all points back to the same type of ship, the
money in the power, right right, But you want people
automatically put people in that box because they're successful, and
they will yeah, yeah, they're saying, hey, they are a
part of this illuminati or their secret society society. But
but but we have enough information from people who's who's

(01:44:56):
in and know that has told the world that hey,
this is what happened behind the scenes. A lot of
your favorite actors, favorite musicians, favorite whatever, has gone through
some shit to get to where they are. And there's
some people that have leverage over them because of the

(01:45:17):
acts that they did and it may be recorded, you
know what I mean, They may got evidence of that
and they don't want that stuff to come out. So
you kind of you know, you you like prisoner to that.
Like sometimes you might go to us somebody like a
video or whatever, somebody and then you drink whatever you drink,
or eat whatever you eat. You and you fucked up

(01:45:40):
and you don't know what's going on. And something happened
to you that night without your knowledge, but they recording it.
And now on the next day, you trying to sit
at the table make a deal for for your for
your record deal, and they say, look, this is what's
gonna happen, or unless we just take about and then

(01:46:00):
you know what I'm saying, Like people get people getting
the trick bag like that. Man, it's a dirty it's
a dirty business. Man, it's a dirty business.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
What Cat Williams say. You gotta tell him no.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
You gotta say no. The Diddy man gotta say no.
The Jenny Man. Man man is putting out all this
information because of his kid's mother. Y'all tripping fifty been
going that Diddy for over twenty years. Everybody, don't give

(01:46:33):
it down. He said he wished his oldest kid got
hit by bus. You think you care about that chick? Hey,
he didn't talking about be Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
He been.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
He been talking about Diddy since Diddy offered to take
him shopping. Man, that ship turned. That dude was like
what you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Said, I believe him too, because you remember what did
he said, the fabulous we ain't party party.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
And that was a creepy That was a creepy interview
right there, that whole that whole five to ten minutes
was uncomfortable everybody in bost But but he've been calling.
He's been calling many a look and he don't made

(01:47:19):
blow out the damn stand his mother saying blow out
the champer. That man that blew out the candle? Man,
that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
Hey, did y'all see this?

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
Have y'all seen in net Flex special Dug?

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Yeah, you told me about it because I watched that thing.
I watched the whole thing. Hey, man, you need to
watch it. Man. It is man that I put on
the Saint Francis game. It popped up then, but I
ain't looked at it yet, but I heard it. It will.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
I will not listen that that his music.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
I don't care if he got a.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
Verse on that junt.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
I won't listen to it ever again. Man, that man,
that man, that man got rid of. Well, I'm just
saying something on some joints, you know, you know, yeah,
I mean Craig mag you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
Man, Hey, on some of them.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Joints on some of the sorry fellas. My beautiful wife,
what this what happens? I'm trying all kinds of pot
piles and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
She said, Kobe, she said, and coach Milton Money Moore.
You know we're good out here in the West. But
she said, if you guys needed her to send something,
she said, I know it's a little cold of this,
so if y'all need some good warm pot pie or
you know, I heard his ten degrees out there where
y'all at Man, you know what I'm saying, She said,

(01:48:51):
if y'all have some hot chocolate or something.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
Let her know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
She got y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
Asked how the forty is doing? She said, all you patty,
she Patty Petty, you know it's fifteen degrees. You offering
us a pop pop?

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
I definitely did not.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
That was Omar.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
You gotta remember that's mister Petty right there, So you
gotta consider my bad, my bad.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
White's only pie. Hey, man, y'all need to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
That Netflix man that that Hey, I can't believe man,
Daddy did that man. Shut that man up. Man, shut up,
big and small tupac man.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
But that's something we all already knew for real. What
was you get was account of what happened real time.
It's kind of that group Daddy King was calling him
about way back when he was doing what was that?
The show? He had the the virtue of the reality
show making a band, Yeah, making the band when he was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
She on She on the she in the Netflix back there,
she should be the lead singing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
She was. She was on him from the jump.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
She Jean Jaguar right. I thought Jaguar right was crazy.
I mean, I don't know. I'm sorry people, no no
no money, money Moe.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
She ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
She is, but some of the stuff she was saying
was right. But she is a little over there. She
was telling Shi blow for blow like Jean deal too.
I was like, damn Jean.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
I thought Gene was just you know, cloud chasing. Nah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
He was getting real. If I had my hat our
tip o tipp. We had this security guard down at
the REP where I used to work at and he
from New York and he used to know people that
was in the you know, doing the security or whatever.
And uh he said, man, oh I'm telling you. He said,

(01:51:13):
I put my life on it. He said they going
they just way back. This gotta be probably about three
years now because we've been out here with one one
almost two. Yeah, so it was probably about three four
years he said. Man, I'm telling you, he said, Man,
they going after uh Puffy and he's And when people
find out how he was the one that basically set

(01:51:34):
up uh Pop and how Big didn't really know even
though they was in the same studio, he didn't know that,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
And then if you listen to some of.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
The people when you start putting the pieces together, like
you know what I mean, like how shocked Big He
was like, damn, but what Callum knew that he was
coming through the studio. But then you know, like, man,
that's man, that's what that's a cruddy, that's a And
then if you hear then if you hear what uh not?

(01:52:07):
What's the what's the boy name?

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Shine?

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
And Craig macwife when he got the number one song
in the world and he and he can't even pay
him and his wife can't even pay for a childcare
or man, and that's man.

Speaker 1 (01:52:28):
His business partner, the co founder Bad Boy, signed over
his shares with a bat in his hand, like you better,
like you better sign you better sign sign this? These
shares over to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
Take that, take that. Yeah, I mean, I mean, we
don't let.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
Coach Miller get a chance to watch it, and we're
gonna we're gonna discuss this more depth next week. I'll
watch it this weekend. I'm definite because it popped up
right before, like I said, the Hospital get came on.
I was like, I ain't got time to even pull
it up because the game.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
You gotta make time, coach gotta make time. I'll pull
it up the same already played the championship game.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
Yeah they yeah, no, they played tonight. They played tonight.
They got to you. They play that team from Utah, right, Hey,
oh it's twenty one and nothing that halftime, bro, twenty
one and nothing at halftime.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
I could have told you that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
Yeah yeah, spirits whopping up on the moke. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
Oh, I ain't gonna need to watch it then.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Ship forty quarter?

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Where where are you supposed to watch NBA basketball? I
don't even know where to watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
I used to turn the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Games on prom now right, is it on prom tonight?
Is it still on prom?

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Like boxing? Having the ESPN and NBC and T and
T Man, you gotta go. Yeah, next thing, it's gonna
be on Netflix. Man's doing too much.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Yeah, you look up the scheduling. You got nothing. It's
just the game is on like nowhere, Like what is
put it in? You been, like said, at least be
able to go to ESPN to find a game. They
didn't even you can't even get it on NBA TV
now like man, Man, it turned on Hulu. Man, that

(01:54:18):
thing right there? Who I mean, that's why, That's why
I watched that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Yeah, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
So what what about?

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
What about Christmas? When you know Christmas is supposed to
be NBA games on all day.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
Probably just brought him back. They just brought him back
on prom It's gonna be on prom. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
Well y'all, y'all, y'all, Well, if y'all make the topics
about NBA, I just excuse myself and just letten to y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
And I'm not watching were about We're about to get
about it here. But coach Milton, you got some rapid
fire questions for the crew. I just had one. I
just had one and it was so so give me
your guys' top five characters from a Living Color Oh

(01:55:11):
that's a good one. Oh yeah, I don't even man,
how you want your bill?

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
Definitely the uh what's the principal? Mcatree, that's the name,
your principal? Yeah? Uh home me don't play that?

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
Yeah, this ship is bang? Which is uh?

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
I mean two more?

Speaker 1 (01:55:41):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:55:42):
Yes, bomb, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
Know where you even how you learned how to do this.
I'm sorry, fellas my bad. She got me over here
on these she got me over here on these uh
p she got me over here on these little mini
white so on their pipe. I actually I said where
the nigga pie.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
Get them back?

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
Keep on, keep on?

Speaker 1 (01:56:18):
You still got too more coke? Yeah, I mean I
know too more, but I don't want to put them
in my top five. Okay, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Uh oh oh no no.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
The dude used to play the guitar, uh yeah Calhoun. Yeah,
and my last one would be I'm sorry, can hon tubs,

(01:56:52):
I said anton ant.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
At that that was gonna be my guy, hey with
the pickle with.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Time?

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
Yeah time, so so antime fire Marshall bill uh the
dude with the guitar, The two snaps in a swirl.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
Yeah, let me see who h what's her name? The
ugly girl Jamie.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
Wander. Uh, let's see who else? Y'all are pretty much
named that everybody in the whole thing I have for
for the what about the what about the superhero dude
and the man? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Yeah, hell yeah, they made a whole movie all of
Handy Man, black Man, the same name, the same dude. Uh,
what about that? A lot of good the Homeboy Shopping Network,
Yeah about them? Who else? Who do we leave off there? Uh?

(01:58:11):
The other the what's the the Jim Carrey played the
uh the gym instructor. Yeah, yeah, that was a good
that was a good question. Coach, that was a good
one right there. Tell you that show Man. We had

(01:58:34):
to dig, We had to dig in the vote for
that one. Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
Uh what what what?

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
Uh? What g say? He watched That's how most all
of that TV show? Oh yeah, hey, you know, speaking
of qualm lea, that's it pulled up man, that's look
with an old porno movie. Whenever I said, what the hell?

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
What the hell?

Speaker 1 (01:59:06):
He said it look like a seventies movie.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
I pulled it up too. On Prime. I was like,
I ain't watching this.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
Wait a minute, what we're doing here watching.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
This ship was before my time. That's why I was
gonna stay there because I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Not watching this like, I'm like, we sure we want
to go down this road?

Speaker 2 (01:59:33):
Hey, hey, coach, that ship was in one one eighty
eight P, Man one eight p. It was Grainy's head.
I said, oh no, and you knew the dude.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
You knew the dude full name, full government name. Hey, hey,
g different man, g different bro? Like what kind of
seventies once is we given to watch here?

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
Some of them movies got to stay where they at.
They don't have the same effect. I'm gonna tell y'all
another one that that messed me up. I went back
and watched it was Conan the Barbarian. That they don't
hit the same in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
Man, none of them shows back then? Due is that?

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
What?

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
Who was that?

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Who was that? Arnold Swartz? Nigga that?

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:00:26):
Yeah, hey let me let me let me tell y'all
a new joinge. Y'all should watch that. Have y'all watched
The Mayor of Kingstown?

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
Yeah, yes, the new seasons like that Mary Kings Money Moe.
You ain't watched it now? Yeah, No, I'm gonna watch
it watching now.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
Hey, hey the new season. I didn't think the new
season was gonna top last season. New season is crazy
and we what were four? Five? Five?

Speaker 4 (02:00:58):
In?

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:00:59):
Well five father, I think they just did five or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
Crazy on the watch.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
So the break now then, okay crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:01:09):
Once you start that, you're not gonna stop.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
Yeah, it's laying man lad man. Yeah, show man, yes man.

Speaker 3 (02:01:26):
But that be making me mad because I'll be like, man,
hurry up. That's I'll be getting mad at the show
be so good. I'd be like, damn, I got wait
the whole week ship man.

Speaker 1 (02:01:37):
Yeah man, lamb man, lamb man.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
And yeah, I gotta find.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
Money.

Speaker 3 (02:01:46):
It's gonna be good for them to watch because it's
so cold, y'all. Not going nowhere.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
It's so cold over there being ten degrees.

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
Y'all, y'all, so you can binge watch mon mo.

Speaker 2 (02:01:59):
They can be is.

Speaker 3 (02:02:00):
Yeah, they got they got ice. They gotta go go
on their cab. I picked use the ice, picked the
ice defraud y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:02:10):
Let me know, man, I gotta find something, man, because
because petty ass fifty that is about to take power
off off the off the air man.

Speaker 1 (02:02:17):
Yeah, that that one is that was good to the Tommy,
the Tommy one. That's it, that's given the powers. What
three episodes to come out, the one with young young
Ghots and young Tommy.

Speaker 2 (02:02:31):
Okay, okay, oh yeah, okay, okay, I know BMF gone,
I ain't coming back.

Speaker 1 (02:02:38):
Wait a minute, the Young the Young Ghost and on Tommy,
or they gonna do the one with Tommy joining the Sun.
I thought that was gonna happen. They showing young ghots
young time when when they got it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
Okay, that's gonna be dope. That's gonna be after the
next Canan. Oh, that's gonna be before.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
I mean, I don't know if they don't know they
got his own name. But but it's the next the
next fifty TV series that's coming after uh what you
call it the Timmy one? Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be dope.

Speaker 2 (02:03:17):
That's gonna be dope. I guess those those those.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
Three bangals right there laying Man and uh and King Amazon.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
And you know that the one that does all those
shows is the same. It's called Edge Shirt something. He
the one that started off doing.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
Yellowstone.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Yeah, they got you know, they got the spin off
called Marshall coming out off of that one. Too with
the sun.

Speaker 2 (02:03:45):
Yeah, him him.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
To him and what was gonna didn't get along.

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
So that's the reason why they canceled that ship him
and uh, what's the dude that what's the Yellowstone least? Actually, Uh,
what's the dude name Kobe? He was in the movie
with Whitney Houston.

Speaker 1 (02:04:05):
Yeah, the bodygud.

Speaker 3 (02:04:08):
Kevin Coxton, Kevin co Yeah, So that's the reason why.
So him and Kevin caughtn That's why. That's why he
killed him in Yellowstone in the it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
And that last year he said he.

Speaker 1 (02:04:20):
Had to go. He said he had to go like
Lyons is about to come back out.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (02:04:31):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:04:32):
That dude got all those shows. So he beefing with
Paramount or whoever, and he said if they don't act right,
he's gonna take your shows and he gonna go somewhere else. Yeah,
because all those thoughts are under one thing.

Speaker 1 (02:04:49):
The said wolf. Let me look up as far I said,
it's another one where it's it's a two. It's a two.
It's too serious where the dude is uh dude, it's
like line this but it's uh r engagement. Yeah yeah, yeah,
that was too Yeah. Yeah, I watched that prime. I

(02:05:13):
watched that. Yeah, that's what's that about? Who's that? It's
the same one like Line Military Joints. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's called Wolf Rules of Engagement And they had its
two two separate uh series.

Speaker 4 (02:05:34):
Part one.

Speaker 1 (02:05:34):
In part two they put it off backward the kind
of messment because I didn't I didn't know the first
one was out, so I watched it backwards. But it's
it's two of them out and it's called Wolf something.
But y'all are like it. It's it's right up there
with with this. I'm gonna take in its own prom
it's own prime. So now all those are dope, All
those are dope.

Speaker 2 (02:05:54):
I got a bunch of the watch now then, okay,
yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
He said the Kings Okay, yeah, I checked that out.

Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
King Hey, but you're gonna love Kings Mary Kingstown.

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
That that Mary kings Town. And that's on Paramount.

Speaker 1 (02:06:10):
That is Paramount. Yeah, Paramount.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
I guess I gotta reading it. That subscription.

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
Man, you got a lot of you got a lot
of a lot of catching up.

Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
Man, I ain't gonna lie to you. I have Paramount.

Speaker 1 (02:06:28):
Just started Dark Wolf, Dark Wolf. Yeah, there you go,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
Yeah, man, I'm tired of paying all these damn subscriptions too, man.
I know, man, I canceled Paramount I watched, I watched
the football game on that one time, and I canceled
that joint. Man, I guess I gotta get it. I'm
gon use somebody else's email address and binge watching this stuff. Yeah,
all them shows?

Speaker 3 (02:06:53):
Uh money more Mary Kings.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
What I just say, just something Mike.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
Watch you know.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
Day that joint, Michael Monster. But yeah, man, good seeing y'all,
good talking to y'all. Mind, But I'm starting to get
a little cold, man, So I got.

Speaker 1 (02:07:19):
To go, man, go ahead, go get him out of here. Man,
petty something man, petty dude. Man, and he can't. He
showed up both in time, caught you just the time.
I took him all the way. I kicked him for
the entire studio. He ain't even backstage. Look I was

(02:07:42):
calling for I was calling for poo Me to come up. Okay,
came through right on tire.

Speaker 2 (02:07:47):
Yeah, man, hopefully talk.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
He ain't had no langer staying noing no, but poot
Me had Pooty had some bragging. Right. So I'm still
popped through. Yeah real quick, A money, I mean cod
and money. Uh, y'all really, did y'all see that Asian
Wilson got female athlete or do y'all know? I know

(02:08:12):
that's that's the that's the queen. So give her a
quick shot on here as well. She got the Asia
Man salute to her. Yeah, balling out. She's been balling
out man. She she's an awesome ball player. Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
Indeed carrying the league, man, She carrying the league real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:08:31):
Before we get out of here, what what do you
guys think about this one? Because we were talking about
how to better the All Star Game? So you know,
Shot got the dunk Man Contest where he's paying those dudes,
the Street Dunkers two hundred I think it's two hundred,
two hundred thousand dollars. What do y'all think about him
taking the top five street Dunkers and just going on
the NBA All Star Weekend and going against whoever is

(02:08:52):
coming out for the NBA Dunk Contest and stay long.
I've been saying that, Yeah, like it would make sense
because you you would get the crowd. You know, people
would tune in because those dudes can dunk and you
have the NBA guys. I think it'll start calling out
some of those not top tier guys that I don't
think any of those guys cann really dunk if they're

(02:09:13):
not in there. But that's but that's who that's that's
who people want to see though, those top chaer guys,
the big name guys. They wanted to take Anthony Edwards.
They wanted to see Jama Rent, they want to see Zion,
you know what I mean. Yeah, I think it'd be
dope to do that and then have that one on
one put all that on the skills like on that
Saturday the Skills Challenge. They Man, I think you'll get

(02:09:36):
the viewer rating up. I think it'll make it dope
because those dudes, those dudes I was watching some of
tho those it's called dunk man. I believe them dudes
be out there tearing the rim down. Bro. They wild stuff. Bro. Yeah. Yeah,
So I'm hoping they do something like that and they
got emerged to to pick that up because you you

(02:09:56):
know you and the reason I thought about it is
you see these dudes man, like I think the loser
of last night's NBA Cup game, those dudes got fifty
thousand dollars for losing, and then it goes up to
one hundred and two hundred what the winner winner takes
all five hundred thousand dollars a person. So those dudes
balling for, you know, for that extra cash, man, so

(02:10:17):
and were getting some good basketball that you typically don't
get at this time of the year, And you know,
you would just like to see the NBA do something
to get the viewership back, man, because I think I
think that would be dope, just to kind of how
people peek in and see, you know, see what those
guys look like. So hopefully they do something about I
just wanted to bring that up on here just to

(02:10:38):
see if you guys what you guys would think about that. Yeah, yeah, no,
I like I like that. Yeah. I mean those the
best dunkeys in the world. They do dunks that we
haven't seen before. So yeah, most definitely would like to
see them showcase. It'll be better than the dunk contest
that we uh that we've been putting out there in
the past what five years or so. Club MC club come,

(02:11:04):
he show he shows off. He doesn't think you know
what I'm saying, but but he can ball too. But
they kind of they kind of put him in a box.
Now it's just the All Star with done. Yeah, why
he can't stick on a team, man, because the dude
can play. He can play. He doesn't get past some
ten day contracts. Man, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:11:23):
Because when he do play, he don't he's not scoring
enough to offset the fact that he don't play no defense.
So that's the that's the problem, because he had a
couple of stints, especially with the Sixers. I think with
the Magic he just don't play defense. He like they're

(02:11:43):
attack him on defense and he's not scoring enough to
set that.

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
Yeah, so you know, I'm always gonna support a Virginia boy,
So you know, but I do believe.

Speaker 2 (02:11:56):
There's a role for him somewhere on a team. But
he just got to come.

Speaker 1 (02:12:00):
Because last year he was m v P of the
G League. Yeah, I mean, I mean the boy boy. Yeah,
definitely can.

Speaker 2 (02:12:11):
Well, whoever pull off this Joannis trade gonna need him
because the're gonna have to give up all their assets.
So they're gonna need some players when traded.

Speaker 1 (02:12:19):
Where you think is trying to land that where you
throw York, New York, Yeah, for sure, you're gonna be on.
He gonna be in New York A. Everybody know that
one of the one of the Yeah, it's no other.
There's no other choice New York.

Speaker 2 (02:12:36):
He's not leaving Milwaukee to go to Oklahoma City. He's
trying to go to a big city. Yeah, that's what it.
That's what it comes down to. Both of those markets
give him a chance to win a championship. So yeah, yeah,
I hope it happens. It'll be interesting basketball for each
one of those franchises in the league.

Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
Yeah, yeah, brothers. The worst get about of here, man,
it was, it was it was. It was nice talking
to you. No great show man, great conversations. Man, y'all,
y'all have fun watching college football playoffs. Just don't don't

(02:13:17):
include me in it. I don't want to hear anything
about I don't want to talk about it. You know,
we bought boycott. Man. Shout out to all mind my
Irish Catholics out there. You know, we're gonna stand, We're
gonna stand, talk and talk toes down. We're gonna locks
and we're going to and we're going and we're gonna

(02:13:37):
boycott this thing.

Speaker 2 (02:13:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:13:39):
This thing is bigger than football. Man, go irishuting on
always a pleasure. Fellas, y'all be good, all right,

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