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Heredes (00:09):
Colin, how are you
doing today?
Outro (00:11):
I'm good man.
How are you?
Heredes (00:12):
I'm great man.
It's another episode, it'sanother week, it's another
season and it's a special,special episode.
It's our is it our?
Most busted episode.
Yet it's about to be, it'sabout to be right, about to be.
Why?
Because, with us.
Collin (00:28):
We're going to be the
creators of Busted Cribs, a home
renovation show.
We take rundown houses and fixthem up to make them a home.
Heredes (00:37):
So yeah, I'm super
excited.
Please welcome Justin andStephanie Jones Say hello, hello
.
Good morning guys, good morning.
Justin Jones (00:43):
Good to have you
guys.
Stephanie Jones (00:44):
Busted.
We are nine out of ten timesbusted ourselves.
Yes, we are.
Justin Jones (00:48):
I went and got a
haircut.
She curled her hair so, likethey were not they were not
Looking good, Looking good yeahwe're happy to be here.
Stephanie Jones (00:55):
Thanks for
having us Check out the clips.
Collin (00:58):
But yeah, man, I'm so
excited to get into this and
talk with you guys about it andso just want to hear maybe you
start out by just hearing alittle bit of your story when
did you know?
Where did you guys start?
How did you get to where youare today?
Tell us the busted crib tale.
Stephanie Jones (01:14):
You want to
tell it.
Justin Jones (01:15):
You tell it better
than I tell it.
Stephanie Jones (01:17):
Yeah, but
you're short, and concise, you
should.
Justin Jones (01:18):
Just, I'm really
really short, like if you want a
reader's digest version, if youwant the full detail.
Heredes (01:24):
That's me.
Justin Jones (01:25):
We'll do a
director's cut link here to the
full story.
I'll let Stephanie handle thatone.
Mine will be just short andsweet.
But there's a lot of nuggets inthe story, from our marriage to
business, to her leaving herexecutive job.
You know there's a lot in there.
I'll let her.
I softballed that up for you.
(01:45):
Come on, that was a Tia.
Heredes (01:46):
Come on For the whole
brand.
Stephanie Jones (01:47):
So how did we
become busted cribs?
Collin (01:49):
Yeah.
Stephanie Jones (01:50):
Okay.
So yeah, there is a long story.
Justin and I got married we hada couple of people previously
and we had busted lives Gottotally restored and renovated
us, which was amazing, and so wecame into a marriage both whole
people, instead of two brokenhalf people, praise God.
And I was working at atelevision network at the time.
I on television I'll just sayit because I was, you know, I
(02:12):
was there.
I don't know you would call it,I was the head designer, but
they would send me out to talentshoots so I'd go to New York
and Toronto, which is so funnybecause I don't really know
anything about the technicalside of it, I'm just the
creative side.
So they were having me leadthese, you know multi-million
dollar shoots and it was totalimposter syndrome.
(02:32):
But I loved it and for thelongest time before I was set
free, I didn't love my job.
It was like very taxing for me.
It was really.
You know, I was like alwayslike, oh, I just want to leave
and find another job.
But when I got restored and whenI got set free, I was always a
Christian.
But when I was set free, theLord just really gave me a love
and passion for things ingeneral and my job became one of
(02:52):
those things where it was likea mission field and it was
really beautiful and I reallyenjoyed working there.
And so, fast forward, justin.
I get married and aboutprobably what, like four months
into our marriage, he says Ineed you to leave your job.
And I was like what, what Lord,I don't want to do that.
I finally love it.
It's really.
It's really awesome.
He's like I'm taking you into anew thing and so, just being
(03:13):
faithful in that we I left myjob and he was kind of like what
are you doing, right?
Justin Jones (03:19):
You were not okay
with it.
Is she a gold digger?
Yeah, let's reenact that.
Heredes (03:24):
Let's reenact that real
quick.
Let's cue the music and go, goahead, yeah.
Justin Jones (03:28):
Yeah.
Outro (03:29):
Kick it, jamie Foxx, yeah
.
Justin Jones (03:31):
No, she, she came
to me and she's like listen, you
know, I think Lord's telling melike leave my job, like there's
something that's you knowcoming, there's something that's
more for us.
And I'm like okay, like yourexecutive level salary, like it
was a good salary, like it was asweet gig, like I got to go to
some of the events and I'm likethis is this is awesome.
You know, and as an, as anentrepreneur, you don't get to
(03:53):
go to all those executive typethings that corporations big
multi-million, if not billiondollar corporations get to put
on.
So me, I'm showing up my bluecollar self and I'm like man,
this is awesome, you know, gotsome steak instead of you know
hamburgers.
And I was like don't leave thisjob, this thing's, this is a
good gig.
Stephanie Jones (04:13):
So yeah, and so
I left and it was really hard.
I stayed on for two months justto help them transition, and
again I was kind of holding onfor dear life because I loved it
, but I wanted to be obedientand faithful and that's.
That's pretty much been ourwhole.
Our whole guide is justlistening to Holy Spirit and
just allowing him to lead us andjust really relying on his
voice, cause otherwise we couldend up in so many different
(04:36):
places.
So once I quit, I found out Iwas pregnant like a month later,
and then we you know, it'salways the best time, that's
exactly when you want to findthat out.
And Justin owned a constructioncompany.
So I would just kind of ridealong with him, cause I'm now
don't have a job and I was likethis is weird, I don't love this
, I'm not that type of personthat enjoys not working.
(04:56):
And so I would ride along withhim and just found that I was
really good at the design sideof things and so when he would
meet with clients, I wouldreally help them walk through
things and give them ideas.
And he's like you know what,let's do a flip.
That'd be really fun If we dida flip.
We have some extra cash andlet's put it into a flip.
And so we did our first flipwhen I was super pregnant with
my first son.
And I remember I have a pictureand I'm like really pregnant
(05:19):
and I have a hammer in my handand I was building a bench seat
or something for this likelittle kitchen nook.
And I just remember telling himI'm like I really feel like
this is where we need to be,like this, us together, doing
this restoring homes, just likeGod restored us, is just such a
beautiful testimony of our lives.
And so, lo and behold, we'dstart doing it more regularly.
(05:39):
And then you know, we justrandomly started filming it.
I don't remember why, even Ithink we just were like, hey, I
want to document this cool thingthat we're doing.
And our kids were growing upLike I now then had a newborn
and I got pregnant.
Right after two months afterI've had my son, I was pregnant
again.
So you know, we're now goinginto what now is for kids, and
(06:02):
so we started doing it, likelet's film it.
It'd be really fun to documentit because they were coming
along with us Now tell us aboutthat.
Heredes (06:06):
So did you flip a phone
open?
Did you bring a wholeproduction crew from your
production years?
Justin Jones (06:12):
And I can go into
that, yes, I can go into that.
So for me, I would flip up acell phone and good to go.
And she's like no, the audio,no the video, the angle, the
light, and I'm like and they'regoing just to shoot this thing.
Let's go, let's roll, let's dothis, let's get to the next line
.
Stephanie Jones (06:27):
We're not
coordinated enough to do that.
Justin Jones (06:30):
I mean just
because I'm from that background
.
Stephanie Jones (06:31):
I mean, I
wouldn't even know how to do
that.
I mean I'd have to like reallyfigure it out.
Justin Jones (06:36):
Yeah, so she's so
backtracking just a little bit.
So she's pregnant the firsttime she's riding with me.
Like she said, she's notworking for the company anymore
and there's the emotions that gointo having a pregnant wife too
.
Heredes (06:48):
So we're riding along
and she might Well tell us more.
That could be a whole otherepisode.
She might be like Go deep intodetail on that.
Stephanie Jones (06:52):
No, no, no.
We won't do that today.
No, no, no, no.
Justin Jones (06:56):
So we're rolling
up to client's house and she's
like you know, with all thebeautiful emotions that come
along with pregnancy and I'mlike, oh my gosh, like this is.
so it was a challenge, but thecoolest part, I will tell you
the coolest part was when wewould roll and we'd started to
flip open a phone and she wouldpost something Everybody's like
we want to see more of that.
(07:16):
We want to see more of what youguys are doing, we want to see
more of you guys interacting andstuff like that.
So we were just kind of justkicking it around and we grabbed
a guy from from church and said, hey, can you come just film
this, let's see what it lookslike.
And he came out there and hefilmed one and it happened to be
like the day that he came outto start filming, there was a
(07:40):
not a lice infestation.
What was it?
Stephanie Jones (07:42):
It was a flee
flee infestation.
That's our flee house.
Justin Jones (07:46):
So he's walking
around filming.
Heredes (07:47):
And I'm sure you staged
this right.
You put the flee there for thedrama of the movie.
So that's no, you staged.
Justin Jones (07:52):
It would be that
would have cost a lot less if I
would have hired somebody to heybring the fleas and then leave
with the fleas.
No, no, no, no.
Stephanie Jones (08:02):
So we're
actually walking through filming
and there's fleas coming up ourlegs and I mean it was thick,
you guys, it was thick, it waslike an inch thick of fleas.
Just the ground was moving.
It was so nice.
And I had my newborn with me inmy arms and I'm like yeah, it
was something else, so westarted posting that content.
Justin Jones (08:20):
People are like
man, that's awesome.
You know this is really cool.
And then go into what she saidabout let's start capturing more
of this Like art.
I know how quickly kids grow up.
I've watched my 16 and a 14year old.
I've watched how quickly I waslike let's film this.
You know, from that perspective, more of like a documentary
type, just watching the kidsgrow up, watching the process of
(08:42):
the house, the time capsulereally of the journey.
Stephanie Jones (08:44):
Yeah, it is.
Justin Jones (08:44):
It is, and it was.
It was more of a passionproject.
There's not a lot of money, youknow, that goes into like we're
not getting paid for thiscontent, we're not influencer
stars or anything like that, sowe just put it out there.
But our lives lived, you know,naturally and in front of the
camera is exactly the same.
So you have faith.
(09:05):
You have the marriage aspect,you have the entertaining
aspects of watching a marriedcouple navigate through
challenging projects that werehappening every single day.
Then we think it's totally,totally different.
Stephanie Jones (09:18):
So different.
Justin Jones (09:19):
She's a creative
and I'm like let's just get this
done, yeah, yeah, you know.
So there's that aspect of itand it just made for creative TV
Content.
Outro (09:28):
Yeah.
Justin Jones (09:29):
That's totally
organic.
It's all natural.
There's nothing at stage.
Stephanie Jones (09:32):
We do not
script anything.
That was one thing that we toldour producer.
We're like we do not want toscript anything and so and that
was great, because he lovesworking in that way too.
So we would literally just showup on the day at the prop
property and we're like theyaction I love that, and then
they edit a lot and do a lot ofmagic behind behind the scenes
because it's in a post.
Heredes (09:50):
Well, tell our
listeners about the show Busted
Cribs.
It's season season three at themoment, yeah, so right.
I've caught the first timeactually saw it was a thumbnail
on the provider.
I think it pure flicks was theprovider on season one and I got
to see it.
It's like wait a minute.
I think it was kind of thiscool catch moment of like nice
and then got to explore it onYouTube as well.
Tell us why the name Some?
(10:10):
It's obvious to some, to somemaybe not, and what exactly do
you do?
Break it down for the listenerwho hasn't seen it's about to
Check out the episode question.
Stephanie Jones (10:18):
You can answer
that.
Justin Jones (10:19):
Yeah, busted cribs
we, when we were starting to
try to figure out a name forthis.
I'm born in the 80s, she's bornin the 80s.
So, coming into the 90s, whatwas popular?
Outro (10:30):
MTV.
Heredes (10:32):
They say Buster, I'm
snow, never mind.
So MTV cribs was popular, youknow and we're like man MTV
cribs.
Justin Jones (10:46):
But man, these are
busted and we're, and it just
kind of.
Stephanie Jones (10:50):
It was late at
night, yeah, cuz we had gone
over.
We're trying to like reallycome up with some meaningful
names that really show, becausewe're not just flippers right,
we're not your average flippers.
Collin (10:59):
What are some of the
names that didn't make it in the
list?
Stephanie Jones (11:01):
I'm here and,
you know, joined at the flip.
We really loved that one.
Outro (11:04):
But then when?
Stephanie Jones (11:05):
we looked it up
like HGTV had already owned it
and so we had to.
We actually started promotingthat because we had no idea that
it was and they're not using itcurrently, but you know that
was owned by HGTV, so we had tochange it and we just were
sitting there one night andwe're like, you know it's like
hey, welcome to my crib, come onin.
It's busted.
And he's like, oh, let's dobusted cribs, boom.
(11:25):
That was it.
Justin Jones (11:26):
So, yeah, so there
was some more names on there,
like we had a bunch.
We were kicking them around toother business owners, family
members, and finally we landedon busted cribs and we're like
man, that just sounds good.
So what we do is we we go inand we're real estate investors.
So we'll buy properties, we'llgo in, assess them Stephanie
designs them.
I'll go through my constructionbackground, figure out what
(11:47):
needs to be done to it, pull thepermits, renovate them yeah,
put them on the market, sellthem and then move on to the
next one.
Heredes (11:54):
Yeah, that's how you.
You said you're not the averageflipper.
Stephanie Jones (11:57):
Yeah why, well,
the whole purpose behind what
we do is like, immediately whenI walk into a property, I don't
see it for what it is, I see itfor what it can be and I've
always had that gift of beingable to see the end result and
people, and then properties andfurniture.
I used to flip furniture to andjewelry.
I would remake jewelry andstuff like that.
Heredes (12:19):
So I always can see
Flip furniture.
Let's get that clear, becausemy kids flip furniture at the
house.
Stephanie Jones (12:23):
Oh yeah, my
dude too.
Not that tight, not that okay,just make sure.
Yeah, ours flip that furniture,can I?
Heredes (12:29):
make money off this.
Is that good.
They're wrestling.
Wait a minute.
Is there a business there?
Stephanie Jones (12:35):
No, I would
take, um, you know, see
something on the side of theroad, a piece of furniture, and
I would paint it or renovate itand sell it for a profit and, um
, it was fun for me and it was,you know, never anything like
profitable, super profitable,but I just have always been able
to see something not for whatit is but what it can be, just
like kind of how God is for us,like he Sees us, for who he's
created us to be not all thejunk, right, not all the clutter
(12:57):
, all the hoarding, becausewe've walked into some crazy
busted houses and People alwaysask me, like how do you?
I mean, I could never haveenvisioned it looking like this
in the end, and I was like Iguess I can just look at it
through like God's eyes, likehow he looks at us, and so I
just have this really beautifulrelationship in that way.
So to me, flipping is like adirty word, it's it's just a
(13:18):
business where this is like atransformative Ministry, I guess
, and so I guess that's kind ofwhere the show even makes sense
for us.
I wouldn't keep doing it ifthere wasn't that, that heart
behind it, because to me it wasnever about fame or getting our
name out there or being Any kindof anything other than just
giving God the glory for whathe's done in us and what he can
(13:40):
do in these properties and justshowing that tangibly, because
when people see these houses,they look neglected, they look
like they don't belong and theylook like they're trash right.
I mean, we've seen some crazyhouses and Just being able to
take that and make it intosomething that's beautiful and
worthy and desired for a newhomeowner is just a really
(14:01):
beautiful.
I don't know faith in action orlike a, I don't know, but you
can see it tangibly, yeah right.
I I he's like we just make money, yeah, no it's not about the.
Justin Jones (14:14):
There's more
purpose than profit.
That's what I tell everybody.
There's more purpose in what wedo, and Then money aspect of it
.
There's obviously a lot ofmoney in real estate, so the
profits come along with that,and obviously when we're out
there shooting from start tofinish, everybody always wants
to know what would you put intothat property, what'd you make
on that property, what this,what's that?
(14:35):
Everybody always wants to knowthe numbers and it's like okay,
so we share some of the numbersand then some of the numbers we
decide not to share.
Heredes (14:42):
Yeah, talk to.
That's an intersection.
That's important, becausesometimes we don't talk about it
right, so so people don't know,so that there's assumptions
made.
I love it that it's.
It's the cause, it's a purpose,it's a lifestyle.
That's just an overflow for youguys.
So this is not something youmanufactured.
No to for the profit.
The profits important though,because I think you got right.
(15:03):
You got kids to feed, you got alegacy to.
You know to move and continue.
Yeah, that purpose and thatcause.
So the business model, becausetalk to us about a little bit
about that.
You know some of its standard,whether it's the flipping or
remodeling, the renovations,some with the actual show and a
strategy there, whether it'straditional or modern marketing
(15:25):
television media.
Give us a little insight on howthat's played out and how it's
going Well.
Stephanie Jones (15:30):
So, to go back
a little bit, the more money we
make on the property, the morewe can give, and that's like,
really, when we get excited is,if we make more money, then
we're like, oh, we can give more, and I know it's such a weird
backwards way of thinking, butthat's just our heart in it and
we don't really share this witha lot of people.
Even doing the podcast, we'relike, oh my gosh, we don't.
We don't want to share thatside of it, like our giving,
(15:52):
because we don't want, you know,we don't want to boast and brag
, but to us it's really exciting.
The more money we make, the morewe can give to nonprofits, and
so that's a big thing for uswith um, with the nonprofit side
of it is.
Heredes (16:03):
And, by the way, we've
met just they.
You know we've met and seen youguys in action, giving back and
being the generous Couple youare through the show and through
your life.
So I know you're not asking forthat, I know.
Um so so that's how we'veinteracted, that's how we've
gotten to connect Um in the pastcouple of years.
Yeah, so so I've seen that andyou don't have to, like I said.
Stephanie Jones (16:21):
but we're not
good at hiding it, babe.
No, no, no, no, no.
And.
Heredes (16:24):
I think it's.
It's even more than it's justmore in your presence and you're
.
Collin (16:27):
I think it just comes
through.
Stephanie Jones (16:28):
Yeah, it does.
It's our life and that's that'sthe thing.
It's not contrived, it's notlike us trying to be something.
It's just we recognize that ourmoney is not ours, it's gods,
and so we just operate in thatway in every facet.
So when we say we make a lot ofmoney and we do make a lot of
money on the flips, but it'sexciting to us when we make a
lot of money that we can thenGive more, you know I want to
continue the cause.
Heredes (16:48):
A lot of times they're
good ideas, folks with good
heart.
If the business model doesn'tmatch and there's not a
sustainability factor Right,then the mission's over.
Stephanie Jones (16:57):
Yeah, and then?
Heredes (16:58):
nobody wins right.
So there's a there's a tensionthere that I think it's
important to.
Stephanie Jones (17:01):
Yeah, and then
you can talk more about the
business model.
You're the business guy, I'mjust making things pretty
business model side of things.
Justin Jones (17:07):
What's really
interesting is prior to us
getting married I was and Iowned a company heavenly
foundations for 12 years priorto us getting married.
So I had marketed, I had a name, I'd been around, it was
profitable, there was 13 to 17employees, so the marketing was
pretty much already out there.
People knew who I was, so therewas no issues with that.
(17:28):
When Stephanie came along and Istarted bringing her to these
properties, it just elevated theprocess, because a lot of times
a contractor will go out thereand they'll look at a project
and it'll be like, okay, it'sgonna cost this amount of money
to do it.
And then the customer's like,okay, well, when do we get
started?
When we go get tile?
When do we go pick out kitchen?
Stephanie Jones (17:47):
And.
Justin Jones (17:47):
I'm like I don't
do that part.
Stephanie Jones (17:49):
It's like
you're going your own you want
the, you want the pretty.
Justin Jones (17:52):
You need to go get
a designer.
So, Stephanie comes along, she'slike, oh, I'll go do that with
you.
And all of a sudden this kindof natural progression of
business is born from that sideof things.
So people already knew who Iwas in Pinellas County and in
the surrounding areas.
So when we came and startedmarketing for busted cribs it
was just another extension of ofwho we were.
(18:14):
And then we had a little bit ofoverlap in it to where some of
these houses I'd come across Ilike, wow, this thing is pretty
Busted up.
Well, real estate investorsnaturally don't want really,
really busted houses.
They look for more of like alipstick type or can I get in?
Can I get out?
Stephanie Jones (18:32):
And that's like
where you just like put little
minor changes because a lotpeople don't know the term but,
Lipstick flipping is when youlike, just you know.
Change out some cabinets orpaint the walls A little refresh
, we end up we end up, we end upgetting the fire sales.
Justin Jones (18:46):
Man, the termite
eaten to, caught fire to, I mean
just the nastiest of nastiesthat you can think of.
Those are the ones where we'relike, we're like, yeah, we're
gonna buy this one and peoplelove it.
Heredes (18:59):
random question have
you ever gotten into a situation
where it's you know what?
It's full demo here?
Stephanie Jones (19:05):
We can't have
you gotten into, you have to
tear the whole thing down almostbasically yeah, but sometimes
we've bought them knowing thatit needs to go down.
It was a risk.
Justin Jones (19:12):
And I'll share
this story One over in St Pete
off of Taylor and we shot awhole thing on it.
It was new construction.
We couldn't walk all the wayaround the property because it
was just so overgrown.
It was so nasty and youcouldn't walk kind of through
the property because it wasovergrown and disgusting To
jungle this house, yeah, so weended up buying it, I don't
remember for how much $500,000or something like that Like we
got to get a deal on it.
(19:33):
And when we had the clearingcompany coming in and start
clearing around, we realizedthat there was a tree that had
fallen on the house, on thehouse.
Stephanie Jones (19:43):
We didn't know
you can't make this up.
Justin Jones (19:45):
And there's a
whole video on it and we walk
out and we're like, wow, Ididn't see that.
Heredes (19:51):
Is this an episode
Season one?
Stephanie Jones (19:52):
It is, yeah, it
is, what did we call that one?
Oh new.
Justin Jones (19:56):
New beyond the
block.
Stephanie Jones (19:57):
New beyond the
block.
Outro (19:58):
Like I don't know why.
It was like step by step manwe're good New house on the
block.
Heredes (20:02):
You're 90s kids.
Stephanie Jones (20:03):
90s kids,
because that was our first new
construction home, gotcha, andso it was like our new, beyond
the block, the new house on theblock.
Heredes (20:09):
I would have called it
a UD house.
Outro (20:11):
Yeah, it was crazy.
We have a tree house.
Stephanie Jones (20:13):
Oh, yeah, we do
Well, not only that because we
were like, OK, we can rebuildthat, but the window remember,
when we were doing some demoUnderneath the windows outside,
I mean there was like there wasnothing there.
Termite poop was holding it up.
There was nothing.
Justin Jones (20:25):
You couldn't see
this stuff because it was so
overgrown around it and I lookat Stephanie and she's, like you
know, like kind of like thetear in her eye because she
wants to restore everything,whether it's a puppy a piece of
furniture.
Collin (20:39):
Like she's just showing
up at stuff Tell us about puppy
restoration.
How do you, you know, think ofthe bust of this puppy?
She'll come home with that.
We used to have one, we used tohave one From pimples to
poodles.
Outro (20:49):
We got you right, we got
you, doesn't matter.
Busted pups, here we go Listen.
Justin Jones (20:56):
So we end up
looking at each other and we're
like, yeah, this thing, thisthing's not going to make it and
it was only like 700 squarefeet, so it was more expensive
to rebuild that and kind of tieinto than it would be to just
level it, start now.
So we ended up hiring, you know,demo company.
Comes out there, you know,three and a half hours later
this whole house is scraped andit's gone and I was like man, we
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really need to think aboutdoing some new construction too.
And the market was starting toshift at that time.
Where our houses are, you know,pricing on houses is going
through the roof.
Well, when prices start goingthrough the roof, it limits the
amount of properties obviouslyyou can buy because stuff is
getting more expensive.
So we happened to make a pivotinto doing more new construction
(21:40):
than renovation.
And of course, she could careless about new construction and
I'm like this is extremelyprofitable.
Outro (21:46):
You know this is great,
it's simple.
Justin Jones (21:48):
It's easy.
I'm not having to worry abouttermites and all this, I can
just come in.
And so we've built, I think,six new ones or something like
that to date, and I love it.
But she's like, yeah, I'm notinterested.
Stephanie Jones (21:58):
I'm not super
excited about it, but the Lord
did give me this beautifulvision over it that sometimes
you do have to go all the way tothe foundation and build
backups from scratch, and so,once it made sense in my heart
to do it, then I was behind it.
But yeah, at first I wasapprehensive.
But you do make good profit onit and unless we have to tear
something down, we do not.
Justin Jones (22:19):
That's very true,
and I'm working on one right now
Nice, that should have beentorn down.
Outro (22:25):
Uh-oh yeah.
Justin Jones (22:26):
And this one, and
the guys are out there working
and they're like no bueno, hefeno bueno hefe, muy malo, muy
malo.
Heredes (22:33):
Every.
For those of you that don'tspeak Spanish, that is no good,
no good.
Justin Jones (22:37):
No good, scrape
this one and I'm like no boys
like Black, make it happen.
Yeah, the boss said we're not.
Stephanie Jones (22:44):
Esposa.
Justin Jones (22:45):
Say bueno.
Stephanie Jones (22:46):
No, I mean, I'm
fine with it if we needed to,
but then we'd have to go all theway through the permits again
because we just we waited solong for these permits.
Let's be honest.
Heredes (22:54):
Because I would be fine
with it.
She's the one.
Ok, tell us about this.
We've got leaders in nonprofitsand doing different types of
you know causes or servingdifferent kinds of people.
Your skill set slash gifting,slash calling lends itself to
flip the camera.
The dynamics are there.
(23:15):
It's kind of what there's asometimes that exists in
organizations too.
We're like you know what, ifthey just flip the camera here,
they can capture the tensions,capture the beauty, sometimes
the mess, sometimes the tensionsSpeak to that.
What changed when the camerascame on?
What was?
Some pros and cons, somechallenges of you know, and I
(23:35):
know you film tons and tons ofhours and have to reduce that to
a few minutes of an episode andencourage because I think we're
encouraging some of the folksto, hey, document, archive this
for the sake of legacy timecapsule but also to promote your
cause, your mission, yourvision, especially if it's
connected to eternal purposes,like we talked about.
Right, If it's going to impactsomeone with the gospel and
point them to Jesus, it's like,yeah, leverage all of it.
(23:57):
Talk to us about that.
Stephanie Jones (23:59):
Yes, we're
actually talking to one of our
friends that owns a nonprofitand because we don't just help
out financially, we like to comealongside of nonprofits and
help them with business and helpthem, you know, just really
gear up.
And hey, maybe you didn't thinkof this before.
Have you ever thought of X, yand Z?
And we had told them that, like, I mean, this is such a
beautiful thing you're doing,you need to record this, like,
and you need to get this outthere, because when people see
(24:21):
it, they want to get behind yourmessage, they want to get
behind what you're doing,because all the nonprofits are
so good, especially that we're apart of, and if we never saw it
or we never, you know,experienced it firsthand, like
you don't get behind it in thesame way.
You know, I mean, I know for youtoo, it's like once you see it
and you can really you see theheart, you see the people
they're working with, you seethe day to day, like the heart
(24:42):
and the good.
And you know, we were justtalking to a missionary.
They stayed with us a couple ofmonths ago and we were like you
need to document your day today life because we want to see
the challenges you have.
We want to see the things thatyou're doing, like it doesn't
have to be pretty, it doesn'thave to be professional.
You don't have to have a cameracrew, a production crew, like
we do, but just flip on yourcamera and show it and he's I
mean, he's gotten so many more.
Justin Jones (25:04):
He's crushing it.
They're based out of.
Honduras.
They're based out of Honduras,so third world country aspect,
they live on a dollar and a halfa day down there.
Well, flip open your iPhone, orwhatever that it might be, and
just capture these situations,capture anything and everything
that you can and then figure outwhere you're going from there.
(25:26):
So he started building out hisnonprofit and getting some land
and getting some opportunities.
When I came alongside him andpartnered up with him on a lot
of just the 10,000 view of justlooking like what this needs to
look like, he started goingthrough and actually putting
(25:47):
action behind it and I said doit this way or do it that way,
crushing it.
Absolutely crushing it, Becausethe money that we would put in
here whether it be a hundreddollars or a couple hundred
dollars really isn't a whole lot, but down there a hundred to
$200, that feeds people forthree months.
That goes a really, really longway.
So now he's filming the housesthat are being built and then I
(26:12):
shot a whole video on it down inHonduras and I don't know where
that ended up, but it's about athree minute video, Just kind
of going through that entireprocess, and it encouraged him
to just keep this going and hehas.
He's kept it going.
Now he's adding in aquaponics,he's adding in solar, he's
adding in a whole entire loggingfacility down there.
Outro (26:33):
Cause down there, it's
all raw wood.
Justin Jones (26:35):
There's not two by
fours and stuff like we have
here.
Down there it's like you getraw wood right off the tree.
Stephanie Jones (26:41):
Yeah, their
main ministry is building houses
because people are living inthe dump, like on trash,
legitimately and then anotherexample here.
Justin Jones (26:48):
So we were just on
a podcast on two weeks ago,
three weeks ago, and thequestion that they asked was
like what are your thoughts?
Like why did you get behind andchampion this mission?
Because I could literally seewhat you guys were doing.
And they're in the exploitationand human trafficking.
Stephanie Jones (27:07):
Just restoring
women's lives?
Justin Jones (27:09):
Yeah, mm-hmm To
the jails and from my
perspective, it was like this tomake sense.
And I can get behind it To mywife.
She's like this is amazing andall those, but for me it's just
like this just makes sense.
There's boots on the ground,they're going in the Tampa,
they're getting this done.
I'm gonna come alongside youand back you up on this one.
Stephanie Jones (27:29):
Well, for you,
it was the stories.
It's hearing these people'sstories, the women, the
survivors, the ones that were inthe jail and were reached by
their ministry, that really madeyou finally get behind it.
You know, and I think that'swhy it's so important for
nonprofits or anybody inministry or that's doing the
work right.
This amazing work for thecommunity and for their area,
(27:52):
like they need to show itBecause people, you can kind of
write it as much as you want,you can talk about it as much as
you want, you can try andfundraise as much as you want,
but till you see it and you hearthe stories and you see the
good that's being done and thechallenges, so that hey, oh,
there's a need here, I need tofill it.
And being hyper-focused on theneed, like we were telling the
missionary, like you need to doa video about, hey, $100 will do
(28:14):
this, $5 will do this.
You know, just show these.
Heredes (28:19):
Really be very
authentic, be very Practical
connect the dots right.
Stephanie Jones (28:22):
Yeah, cause
people want to know.
Oh, I can do that, that's easy.
Justin Jones (28:26):
I love it.
Stephanie Jones (28:26):
Oh if I just
cut out coffee once a week, I
can donate, I can give you know.
It's like practical I'm notcutting out coffee.
Heredes (28:32):
There's some sacrifices
that are just too.
Before you go, colin, one thing, just a good reminder on the
vision casting on the storybranding that we do.
One is now you guys with bustedcribs have had offers, have
gotten distribution, exposureand multiple seasons.
It didn't start that way.
It's not like somebody showedup with a multimillion dollar
contract.
Would you like to?
You know, and yeah, sign yoursouls away?
(28:52):
No, it didn't start that wayand you guys haven't signed your
souls away.
Don't do it.
We never will, but it's just theimportance for brands for
non-profits organizations.
You can start.
Start where you are.
There are multiple platformsout there for you to use free of
charge, and it's just take someintentionality, some creativity
and capture, Capture theessence of what you're doing,
(29:13):
and that's vision casting,that's getting the mission
statement, the purpose, thecause, the call to action.
How do they join?
How do they participate?
Where do they sign up?
As simple as that.
Leverage the storytelling andthe powerful medium, video
photography, sometimes goodwriting right.
Just all the creative elementscoming together and helping you
know.
Stephanie Jones (29:32):
Yeah, it's 100%
.
Collin (29:33):
Yeah.
So what are let's get maybe alittle more practical what are
some of like the insights youguys have that you guys have now
, after years of doing this tohelp a non-profit who's saying,
like I hear what you're saying,I wonder how do I do that?
Like, what are some insights ofcreating a compelling story
that people want to listen toand want to see?
Like, what have you guys foundin that Cause you're, you guys,
(29:55):
you're taking houses, inanimateobjects that you know but but
you're creating these reallycompelling and beautiful stories
out of them.
Give us a little more insightthere.
Justin Jones (30:04):
Yeah, absolutely
so.
I'll touch on that one when wedo.
I'll give example Jeff Ford manup and go.
Fantastic guy, fantastic man ofGod, and when we looked at his
organization and and startedcoming alongside him whether it
be through CBMC or whatever thatit ended up, you know.
However, we ended up just kindof connecting all those dots.
He would do these these thingsthat like sports bars and all
(30:29):
these different fun raisers andtrying to raise capital.
Thank you for putting a name tothat.
Heredes (30:35):
There's these things.
Justin Jones (30:45):
For for him I was
like, hey, like we do these
inspections through the businessand let me just give you the
inspection fees.
You know, let me come in andyou know, come alongside you and
champion.
And then we started doing thatamongst the company and it kind
of caught on.
And it caught on with someother, some other Companies, and
he's really kind of taken thatand grown through you know
(31:05):
Florida legislature and stufflike that.
He's doing amazing things.
But that was just one smallexample that a for-profit
company can come through and do.
And then, when it comes toanswering your question, like
storytelling storytelling isExtremely important and I don't
read like I'm not a reader.
They always say leaders arereaders.
I'm like, give me a video andjust let me watch that and I'll
(31:30):
go ahead and replicate it orwhatever needs to be done.
So I'm watching the video and Imight read the closed captions.
That's about all the reading.
That.
Heredes (31:36):
I'm doing that off, man
, I turned that off.
Storytelling is amazing.
Justin Jones (31:43):
So when Jeff
really started sharing that
story and and he does greatvideo content through emails and
he has multiple people that areup there, multiple businesses
and these aren't nonprofits,these are for-profit companies
that are coming alongside himand champion with him, and I
think nonprofits have a great,great stage if their
storytelling is good, it'scompelling and they can get
(32:04):
other businesses, the champion,beside them.
It makes little work for many,many people, yeah, and I'm a
firm believer in that.
I know he has ignitechiropractic, raul Serrano, and
he has a couple other guys, youknow, amongst his board that
will come alongside and championthat and I think it's really,
really important.
But I think other nonprofitscan really take advantage of hey
(32:27):
, get these Businesses that wantto come alongside, because I
think deep down inside, a lot offor-profit companies Want to do
something.
Yeah but the excuse comes in whyI don't have the time.
Stephanie Jones (32:40):
Yeah, I have a
family, I have this, I have that
or like which one, like whichthere's so many Support and help
.
You know what?
Justin Jones (32:48):
do I get behind?
And naturally, you know, beingin the trades, I'm like, well,
maybe there's a tradeorganization I can get behind.
Okay, well, the tradeorganization is filled with guys
that are hurting, broken, andI'm like, okay, well, that used
to be me, so let me comealongside them, whether it be
with discipleship, leadership,training, whatever that it might
be, and that's action and ittakes time and it's not just
(33:11):
investing my money into that,but it's investing my time and
it's you have to end up findingsomething that you can really
come alongside.
But you're gonna be dealingwith people, whether it's
nonprofit for profit, whateverthat it is, and if you have a
heart for that, then I think thesky's the limit on that.
Stephanie Jones (33:29):
So really cool
story that when I was working at
Ion they had these teambuilding things and it was
always so like corporate basedand so kind of selfish.
And at the time I was workingwith a I was working, not
working with but I was kind ofpartnering with them and work,
doing a lot of events with them,called feeding children
everywhere, and they do thesepacking events and it was so fun
and so cool.
And I went to the my boss atfirst and I said, hey, I think
(33:52):
we should do this as one of theyou know corporate building team
building events or things.
And they're like, well, whatdoes that look like?
And I was like I just thinkit'd be really cool.
And so they, they kind ofbrought it up the ladder and
talked about it and they're like, yeah, let's do it.
And so that was before.
I mean, obviously I was, I wasafter, I was kind of set free
and I was really loving my jobat that point and just really
bringing just God into myworkplace.
(34:14):
And they are still to this daydoing that event, even though
I'm gone.
They still are now Giving backin that way.
Outro (34:22):
Love it.
Stephanie Jones (34:22):
So I think
sometimes when you have this
dream or this vision, like, oh,I really love this, this
Non-profit, then you can bringthat into your workplace and say
, hey, can we do a team event orcan we, you know, raise funds
for this, this group, or howeverthat looks like.
If you're not a non-profit andyou're wanting to get involved,
that could be a really cool waywhere I didn't personally have
enough money to do a packingevent on my own, but it was a
(34:44):
really cool team building thing.
They they make it really funand that was a really practical
way to then start getting them.
Now this really huge and itkeeps growing every year and
it's just really cool.
How one little thing of me justbeing like, hey, we should do
this as a team building insteadof our normal luncheon, you know
, instead of putting our moneythere, let's actually help
people love it like let's stillteam build, but in a really
(35:06):
practical, helpful way.
Collin (35:08):
Yeah, that's amazing.
So we've talked about Kind ofspecifically for profits
partnering with nonprofits.
So for a nonprofit leaders whoare, you know You're looking for
it's nonprofit, but you needmoney.
Stephanie Jones (35:24):
Money.
Collin (35:26):
So, like what makes a
good Non-profit partner for a
four part?
Like what is a for-profitbusiness looking for?
Like what when they're you knowIf I'm leading a nonprofit?
It's like what do I need to beso that I you know, so that I
make these people Actually wantto partner with me, want to be a
part of of what we're trying todo?
Stephanie Jones (35:46):
Yeah, I mean
for me.
I think it's if I reallybelieve in what you're doing,
right, like I want to know thatyou're passionate and that
Passion then spills over to meand I get excited.
So if you're excited about whatyou're doing whether it be
exploited women or helping youknow the homeless, or you know
doing something you know in thelibrary, whatever that looks
(36:07):
like if you're passionate aboutit, you're naturally gonna be
able to get people on board withyou, because that passion then
just naturally spills over.
And Every nonprofit we've beena part of, if they're not in
that place of like excitement,we come alongside of them and
help them get excited aboutagain because it's really hard.
Nonprofits are hard, like it isnot a fun, it's not for the
weary, it is really difficultand we know that because we're
(36:29):
friends with a lot of peoplethat are in that grind right and
so just kind of Even sharingthat like this is hard and I
need support in that way too,like just someone coming
alongside of me, like they needto show all of it, but I want to
know that they're reallypassionate about it, like that
they and I want to see that,like You're saying, like in that
media in that content like showme how excited you are have
(36:50):
someone follow you for a day,just a day in the life of a
nonprofit.
You know a day in the life,what, what we do, you know, even
if you have to blur out faces,like, whatever that looks like,
show us, so we see your struggle.
We see your, your joys, we seethose beautiful moments, because
if you don't see, you reallycan't believe, you know.
And so, and I had to show mycompany eye on, I had to show
them videos of these packingevents and how much good it does
(37:13):
and the back end of it, likethis, is who it's going to?
These are not, it's not goingout of the country.
These are people that arehungry here.
These are children that are notgetting fed in the United
States.
And so once I was passionate,obviously, and the company is
passionate, so I'm now bringingit to them and they're like I
want to get behind this.
This is cool, you know what Imean, and so I think you gotta
(37:33):
have the story telling down.
Justin Jones (37:35):
It doesn't matter
what you're doing, whether
you're creating a podcast orcreating whatever that you are.
You got to have a compellingstory that naturally,
good-hearted people are gonnawant to come alongside, and for
me, I like seeing the numbers.
That's what it is for me.
For her it's different.
Outro (37:53):
I'm like.
Justin Jones (37:54):
I'm like how many
people did it help?
Right seeing the impact?
Yeah that's what I want to know.
I want to know, like, when Igive ten dollars, if nine
dollars of it's going out in thefield and dollars going to
leadership, or however that goesfor me.
I just like knowing the numbersand I'm not like everybody, but
I want to see what is it doing?
How is it impacting who's?
(38:15):
So?
To answer your question like,how do they go out and find
these people?
When they're championing it andthey're putting it out there,
they're naturally gonna startnetworking in areas that people
are gonna come there.
Sure, looking for something,yeah as well.
Whether it be a luncheon or itbe a dinner or be the Rotary
Club or that it be, doesn'treally matter.
(38:36):
It could be at church, could bewherever, but you have to have
a compelling story and get it infront of them, yeah.
Or when it's your turn to standup and you give an elevator
speech, and you get up and yougo.
Man, my organization helpedsave three kids last night from
being exploited.
I'm like, oh, tell me more.
Collin (38:53):
Yeah, that was five
seconds.
How can I get that to five?
Yeah, how can I be part of that?
Yeah.
Justin Jones (38:57):
Yeah, hey, we did
that through the help of this
many donors.
If you're interested, Get meafterwards.
Stephanie Jones (39:03):
Yeah, I'm like
yes, please, it's short, that
was eight seconds and I'm going.
Justin Jones (39:08):
I Can help save
more kids.
Yeah, from what?
Tell me more.
Yeah and all of a sudden, I'mvested.
Collin (39:14):
So we've talked a lot
about how important is to share
your story and what.
What do you think that is thebarrier To orgs not doing that
Like?
Why do you think there's maybeless orgs that aren't taking a
bit like?
Stephanie Jones (39:26):
honestly, it's
a lot.
You're in the grind.
I mean I can understand,because we that's why we hired a
production company I'm likewe're not gonna be able to film
this, I'm not gonna mentally beable to do that and my job
period like I'm just not gonnabe able to do both.
So if they just come alongsideof us and they film it, that's
great.
If they don't have the money todo that, they can get a
volunteer and they literallyjust come alongside of them and
film it.
(39:47):
I think it's just it'soverwhelming to think of all the
steps and people like I don'teven know what to do with that
video or partner with aproduction company or a
marketing company or you know umsocial media Networking people
I don't know what they callthose and you know what I'm
saying, like those companiesthat do that.
That way, you yourself aren'ttaking on that burden.
It's another burden, it'sanother cost, it's another thing
(40:08):
you have to fundraise for.
So I think it's it'soverwhelming and I think for
some they're like oh well, thepayoff is not gonna be there, so
why would I put that money intoit?
But to me it's like you need todo that and put that money in.
It's kind of like with us whenwe hey, we need to get more
clients, we need to promoteourselves.
Right, it's the same with anormal business you need to
promote yourself in order to getmore business, in order to get
(40:29):
more funding, and so that moneyspent, or that time spent, it
needs to become part of theirdaily workflow.
But I think they don't do itbecause they're just in the
grind.
It's a lot, it's a lot andyou're just in it every day.
I mean the part of a lot of thenonprofits that we've worked
with.
They're just, they're all in andso there's no time and I don't
(40:50):
think they have the capacityright, I don't know about it.
Justin Jones (40:54):
I'm gonna just say
something that isn't, that's
not gonna be popular.
Heredes (40:57):
Bring it on.
Drum roll, please, drum roll.
We've been waiting for it.
Justin Jones (41:00):
It is not gonna be
popular.
But if you are in charge likeyou're the boss, you're the CEO,
whatever you wanna callyourself, put your title
whatever that you wanna be.
If you're not the best fit forthat position, you need to get
out of that position and putsomebody else in.
And it's not popular and itmight be hard, especially as a
man, to lower my pride and belike hey, I'm not the best for
(41:23):
this position, and when I had todo that and step out of that
position, that was the bestthing that I could have done,
because a lot of times leadersare getting in their own way.
Whatever that it might be,whatever they might be going
through, whatever they might nothave the same heart as when
they first started, they mightnot be as hungry.
You put whatever you want inthat blank, but you step out of
(41:47):
that position.
Put somebody in there that'sgonna come in there and really
run with this thing, becausethen you will find people that
wanna come alongside and,naturally, run with that new
person that's in charge.
Heredes (41:59):
That'll preach.
Listen if that's for you.
You're listening right now.
We're gonna put Justin's phonenumber right here on this
podcast episode.
Give him a call.
Give him a call.
You may need to go work forBuzz and Gryff starting, but
it's a healthy thing to do, Iagree.
I agree it's a healthy for theorganization, for yourself, for
the long play, for the long termof your emotional, physical,
(42:21):
spiritual health, of what God'sgifted you to do and the calling
and the priorities thatsometimes we invert right we
just sit on the throne thatwe've created, like, wait, what
am I doing here?
Stephanie Jones (42:33):
Well, I just
think about like we were reading
this is a random thing to say,but we were reading about Moses
and God asks him to do thisreally hard thing and he's like
we'll bring Aaron with you andMoses had Aaron running
alongside of him and itstrengthened Moses.
So if you don't have thatperson that's there with you to
help, like, be the voice,because Aaron was the one kind
of that, was the voice and, okay, encouraging and really pushing
(42:55):
Moses along because he wasscared, truthfully, moses was
like I can't do this.
What are you talking about?
He's like I have Aaron to goalongside with you.
Find your person that's reallygonna be there, like what you're
saying, if you, you know youdon't necessarily have to step
out, but find that person that'sgonna help you bring it back to
life again and bring thatpassion and that excitement.
Heredes (43:13):
Yeah, I'm a big
believer that people follow
people, people buy into peopleand relationships before they
buy into brands.
You guys have demonstrated that, I think, and you have
displayed that and broadcastedthat, which I love.
Talk to the leader, who's likeyou know what?
I just I don't wanna be outthere, I wanna put my face out
there, I don't want my name, andthere's this, and sometimes
(43:34):
there's a humility that's likeis it true humility, is it not?
That's we're not questioningmotives, but are you leaving
something on the table?
Stephanie Jones (43:41):
Go ahead.
Oh yeah, we did not wanna film.
Heredes (43:43):
That is.
Justin Jones (43:43):
Stephanie Jones.
I will put her phone number uphere.
If you wanna talk to somebodywho has imposter syndrome.
Yes, stephanie Jones.
Stephanie Jones (43:52):
I was like
we're really gonna film this.
Like I'm not I don't even knowwhat I'm doing.
Like I'm not a flipper, I'm nota designer, I have like a graph
design background.
Outro (44:01):
I did not wanna film.
Stephanie Jones (44:02):
I didn't.
It's so funny because we weredoing it for fun.
And then, when PureFlix reachedout to us to buy our episodes,
I was like, oh my goodness, nowa lot of people are gonna see
this.
This is awkward, this isembarrassing.
Outro (44:11):
Is it real?
Stephanie Jones (44:11):
now yeah
because again, we weren't like
going out to do that.
So it just I was really awkwardbehind the camera.
Justin Jones (44:18):
first effort, I
will just say, my wife is
actually an introvert.
Stephanie Jones (44:22):
I'm totally an
introvert.
Justin Jones (44:23):
She's naturally
introvert and I'm naturally an
extrovert, so when you put bothof us together, she described it
best one time.
I have five coins that I cangive out throughout the day,
whether it be kids, you, thebusiness, whatever that it is, I
have five coins.
Outro (44:42):
And I start my day with I
like when this is going.
Heredes (44:44):
And.
Justin Jones (44:44):
I start my day
with no coins as an extrovert,
and what do I try to do?
Heredes (44:49):
I'm collecting coins.
I collect coins all day, likeMario.
Justin Jones (44:52):
So I'm going this
way, she's coming that way, and
naturally, what's gonna end uphappening is people are gonna
wanna talk to her.
Heredes (44:59):
People are gonna wanna
meet with her.
The kids took all your coinsalready, so you're done, oh yeah
.
Justin Jones (45:03):
And there's no
real way other than to encourage
her just keep loving on her toreally give her more coins.
Hey honey, I got five or sixcoins, let me try to give you
one more.
Get you through whatever it isthat you might be going Get me
in front of Jesus and we're good.
There you go.
Stephanie Jones (45:17):
Give me that
space, I'm good.
Justin Jones (45:18):
Not my coins, but
Jesus and me.
Heredes (45:20):
Those are bills, those
are dollar bills.
Collin (45:22):
Jesus, is it?
That's it, the blank check.
Justin Jones (45:24):
So she naturally
doesn't.
She naturally doesn't reallywant the exposure, she naturally
doesn't wanna platform, shenaturally doesn't want any of
that kind of stuff.
So she will just kind of sit inthe sideline.
She does it at church too, likeshe's a fantastic.
She's fantastic at everything,mother, wife.
But she can stand in the backof the auditorium and she's got
(45:48):
a beautiful voice and whenpeople hear it they're like why
aren't you up there on the stage?
And she's like nope.
Heredes (45:53):
Out of coins, don don't
?
She's like God has me.
Stephanie Jones (45:57):
Yeah, if he
told me to go, I would.
Justin Jones (45:58):
But yeah, she
would be the one that would be
in the back.
She's the one that's in therear with the gear.
Let's get this going, let's dothis.
And I'm the one that's justpony out front just rocking and
rolling, collecting coins allday long.
But she does that really,really well.
And a lot of people, when theydo meet us and they do talk with
us, they're like, oh my gosh,like I need to film this, like
(46:20):
you guys are the same in person.
Stephanie Jones (46:22):
Yeah, as you
are, I think we're like doing
something different as you areon camera like this is the.
Justin Jones (46:27):
You guys are real,
you know, and it's unauthentic.
But it's also very encouragingto us to know whether we're on
camera, off camera, filming apodcast, whatever that we might
be doing, it's gonna come offauthentic because that's just
who we are.
Stephanie Jones (46:42):
You get what
you get.
I think some stuff gets cut out.
Really crazy stuff gets cut out.
Heredes (46:47):
We're gonna wrap soon
here, but I wanna talk about
bloopers soon and just aboutstuff that did not make.
Outro (46:51):
There's lots of those
Didn't that air.
Stephanie Jones (46:53):
And then Pure
Flix mates us cut it down even
more because they've come acrossstuff that are like this is not
acceptable.
Collin (46:59):
Yeah Well, maybe along
those lines.
I got one last question for you.
You guys, you've made a livingout of renovating houses.
Most marriages don't make itpast one house renovation.
Outro (47:10):
Yeah, how do you guys do?
Collin (47:12):
How do you guys?
What's the secret there?
Cause you guys obviously havefound the secret.
Stephanie Jones (47:16):
Jesus.
Collin (47:17):
Okay there, yeah, maybe
that's it, but you know you get
Just a default answer.
Stephanie Jones (47:21):
No, the minute
we I think I knew it would agree
, like the minute we startedunderstanding that we are
different and that he offerssomething that I can't offer and
I offer something he can'toffer.
It's a beautiful partnership atthat point.
But when we were trying to buttheads at the beginning, it was
really hard, cause I was likewhy can't you just see it the
way I see?
Outro (47:38):
it.
Stephanie Jones (47:39):
Why, why, why.
And I'm like I just had toreally understand like he is
gifted in a beautiful way, thatI'm not gifted and I'm gifted in
a way that he is like he cannotsee a house until it's done.
Like I'll be, like, oh, it'llbe so cool.
And he's like I don'tunderstand what you're saying,
but cool, we'll do it, and soHis mold is getting in the way
of yeah.
But he has this really coolbusiness mind where he can see
(48:00):
the big picture of all thenumbers and you know, just being
able to see a project throughall the steps.
But me, I just can see itvisually.
So it's just a really cool Oncewe finally did that.
And we still have ourchallenges on our job site.
Justin Jones (48:13):
It's a lot of fun
To answer your question, like
when Mary To put the camera downsometime.
Collin (48:17):
Yeah, oh, I don't know
if you guys saw that, but he
actually threw a sledgehammer atme one time.
Stephanie Jones (48:22):
He's like the
power of Thor and he threw it
and that wasn't staged.
You guys Like.
This is the kind of stuff thathappens.
If the camera's on or thecamera's off, like this is just
who we are and that's how he isand he's like, look, catch,
cause we think it's funny and wejust live our lives.
Heredes (48:37):
I thought it was
special effects of the entire
time.
Like no, they must have addedthat own later.
Stephanie Jones (48:41):
I'm like you
did not just throw a
sledgehammer at me.
Justin Jones (48:45):
Married couples
going through renovations.
First off, a little majorityand I'll just speak broadly on
this don't go through too manyrenovations in their life, just
in general.
Okay.
Now you take the aspect ofbeing married, potentially
having kids, pets, anything andeverything that's in a home.
(49:06):
Okay, that they love, cherish adoor.
Now you're having all of thesestrange men, strange women come
through their home around theirkids around their pets around
all these different things, andif it's not stressful enough
trying to get kids out the door,get kids to eat their breakfast
(49:28):
, and I've seen this, so I'mspeaking from experience.
Now I'm going.
Hey, mrs Jones, mrs Smith, hey,how much longer until you're
out of here, cause I gotta startworking on this.
It creates another level ofstress and as a married couple
you don't get to get away fromit.
You go to the office, you comehome and your house is destroyed
(49:49):
.
There's a level of stress thatgoes into that that you're not
prepared for.
You don't learn about it inschool.
You don't learn about it intrade school, college.
You don't learn about anything.
You don't learn about it inmarriage counseling Right before
you get married.
They don't tell you.
Do not renovate your house Justdon't go there.
Outro (50:09):
The leading cause of
divorce we tell people that.
Collin (50:11):
Buy a new one.
Justin Jones (50:12):
The only thing
that you can do is you can sit
down and you can look at yourpartner and go listen, we are
gonna get through this.
This will be for a very shortperiod, but we are gonna
absolutely love this kitchen.
We're absolutely gonna lovethis bathroom.
It will get stressful and I'mthe one that sits there and I go
after doing thousands of theseand I go listen, guys, you guys
(50:34):
are not gonna like me at thethird week and you're not gonna
like each other.
You are gonna think that I wassent from.
Stephanie Jones (50:40):
Down Under.
Outro (50:42):
We're not talking.
Justin Jones (50:42):
Australia.
Heredes (50:43):
We're not talking
Australia.
Is that why they pay up front,just to make sure that?
That's why we get deposits?
Justin Jones (50:50):
Yes, that's why we
get deposits, and if you can
come alongside your wife, yourhusband, and have that authentic
conversation and go, we willget through this.
This will just be like a phaseand then we'll be out of there.
The other thing that you reallyneed to do is hire a good
contractor, a contractor thatunderstands people, not just
(51:11):
profits, not just hey, I gottaget these subs in there, but a
good contractor that understands, that can walk alongside you.
And the other thing is, too, isa lot of homeowners and I made
this mistake up front they wannaknow what's happening.
Meanwhile it's all playing outin my head but, I, didn't put a
lot of stuff down on paper, Puta schedule out there.
(51:34):
Hey, here's one we're gonna beover for the next week or two.
Here's when you're not gonnahave power.
Here's when you're not gonnahave plumbing.
That way, Mrs Jones isn'tplanning on making spaghetti
that night and she doesn't haveany water.
There's things that can be doneahead of time that just aren't
done ahead of time, and thenagain it just creates an added
stress, an added stress, anadded stress.
Stephanie Jones (51:54):
And we don't
have to really deal with that on
our business side for the mostpart, other than like we become
a marriage counselor to some ofour clients.
Heredes (52:01):
Because again we're
trying to hold them together.
Justin Jones (52:02):
Yeah, that's a
whole, nother podcast, that's a
free benefit, by the way, if youwant to sign up.
We'll put the link here, Notgetting that with most.
Collin (52:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Stephanie Jones (52:09):
Because it
isn't.
It's not easy working with yourspouse, but I think it's really
beautiful and it's a gift fromGod.
Truly, we really we wentthrough a lot of counseling and
therapy.
We're not ashamed of it becausewe did.
We did come into a marriage andwe're two different people and
we needed to really figure outhow to work together in that,
and once we did, we then wereable to play to each other's
strengths and weaknesses a lotbetter.
Heredes (52:29):
Well, it's obvious in
the episodes.
I highly encourage you to watchand click watch all of them on
replay.
And then, what's next?
What's next for Busted Cribs?
What's in the works?
What episode is in the making?
Anything you can leak Anythingyou can leak right now.
Stephanie Jones (52:44):
Yeah, well,
we're in season three right now,
finishing up season three, butwe don't know what's going to
happen with Pierflex.
They just got bought out and sothey haven't signed us on for
two and three, like they weresupposed to, because they got
bought out.
So they're kind of on a freezeand we're just kind of waiting
to see what the Lord does.
We're going to maybe reach outto a couple more networks, but
yeah, just as long as they keepour show, our show, that's been
(53:07):
really big for us because we gotapproached by a major network,
probably about what, two yearsago, a year ago, and they were
like, hey, we'd like to film apilot with you.
And we kind of, you know, asked, well, can we still do this?
Can we like?
Because that's us like, andthey're like, oh no, and your
filming schedule is going to be,you know, you have to do eight
houses and you know set X amountof weeks.
And I'm like, oh, that's not us.
That's very good, because it'snot.
(53:29):
That's not us and we don't wantto portray something we're not.
So I don't know what's next, Idon't know what's coming and
it's a really weird place to bein, but our business is still
thriving.
We're just maybe not going tofilm it for the season, I don't
know.
Justin Jones (53:42):
There's one house
that I really want to film.
I think we're going to do moresocial, like those little one
minute clips, their shorts andstuff like that.
I think we're going to startdoing more of that and getting
back to like the grassroots oflike people seeing like what we
do on a daily basis and thenwe'll throw in some of the
interactions that me and her do.
(54:03):
But I think we're going tostick with more short form
content than long episodes.
I kind of see us going goingthat route and just keep
encouraging people.
Stephanie Jones (54:13):
Our production
crew just started filming all
the time, like on the off time,and we didn't even know that
they're filming half the time.
But they'll, kind of likesubtly, keep the camera on and
that's where they capture allthose really funny moments,
because we're just beingourselves like in between
bloopers.
Justin Jones (54:26):
Yes, there's yeah,
there's so many bloopers when
we're going through and doingthat and it's the funniest one
that people still come up to methis day and they're like, hey,
did you fart?
And I'm like, I'm like what?
Outro (54:41):
No, dude, I did fart,
like we're at church, like what
are you talking about?
Did you fart and it's like.
Justin Jones (54:47):
And then they're
like.
And then they just startlaughing and I'm like what in
the world?
And then they're like don't youremember?
Like you farted, like on thecamera and like the whole world
saw it.
Yeah.
Stephanie Jones (54:56):
He thinks it's
so funny to get our whole crew
in a small bathroom and thenjust let one go and it's so
awful for all of us.
Outro (55:03):
but they can't do
anything about it.
Collin (55:04):
So they're stuck Because
we have to keep rolling.
Clearly clearly we're on thesame page.
We're like that's all there.
Justin Jones (55:10):
I don't care, I
don't care who you are.
That's some team building rightthere, when the cameraman is
like like wedged up in the tubof this little small five bite
bathroom.
Collin (55:19):
It's a little bit bigger
than this table.
Outro (55:21):
He can't get out and I
wait.
I wait for that perfectopportunity.
Justin Jones (55:24):
And I'm just like,
and then he's like, and he
can't say nothing because he'sgot to stay quiet.
And then I'm like, all right,we got to go now.
And I shut that door rightbehind me.
He's like he's like man, I justabsolutely love you.
One time I was I had to go pee.
Well you're like so you'remic'd up and a lot of people
(55:45):
don't know this, but you'remic'd up the entire time, Like
I'm not going to turn the mic on.
Stephanie Jones (55:49):
And we're in
the middle of a scene, me
talking about the plan.
Like man, I really got to pee.
Justin Jones (55:53):
I peed for at
least three and a half minutes.
And these are all just bodilyfunctions, I guess.
Stephanie Jones (55:57):
I found that
just absolutely hilarious.
Justin Jones (55:59):
The episode teaser
here by the way, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.
Yeah, so, and then justinteractions between me and her.
So a lot, of, a lot of thebloopers too, like Stephanie can
see, like the house, like it'salready done, but if I have,
just like a slab there,Stephanie's like oh yeah, unlike
where the wall's at.
Stephanie Jones (56:15):
I don't like
what is this?
I can't see what it is.
Justin Jones (56:17):
So the crew knows
that about her.
So they messed with her.
They're like hey, hey, I'mgoing to shoot you real quick,
Tell us where everything's at.
Heredes (56:23):
Can you do a?
Justin Jones (56:23):
walkthrough and
it's just flat Like.
It's a slab, like this.
Stephanie Jones (56:26):
It's just open
block house, no walls.
Oh, I think the kitchen's here.
Justin Jones (56:32):
Here Like she has
no idea.
Heredes (56:35):
And then she's looking
over at me like save me and I'm
just like it's all you so do youlock those in.
Collin (56:40):
At that point it's like,
well, she said it was yeah the
kitchen in the bathroom right.
Like you know, they're one.
Yeah, there's, there's, there's, I'm sure there's more funny
moments.
Justin Jones (56:50):
Obviously, the the
, the crowd pleaser, just kind
of opening up a door as she'strying to walk through a small
hallway, and you know the little, the little things like that
that, like the married couples,can get away with.
Stephanie Jones (57:00):
So I love it.
Yeah, it's just us being us.
I love it Truly.
It's what it is.
Justin Jones (57:05):
Yeah, holding
character, holding character.
Stephanie Jones (57:08):
Oh yeah, I'm
like what character am I holding
?
I'm barely being myself, rightnow Stephanie.
Justin Jones (57:12):
Stephanie is like
if she hears a plane going over.
Heredes (57:15):
She's like yeah,
squirrel, there's no ignore.
Right, there's a fire truck.
Justin Jones (57:21):
There's a fire
truck Five blocks over and and
the camera guy's like if I tellyou to stop then you stop then
you stop.
If not, we keep rolling because, you got to reshoot the whole
scene over again.
You know, and it's it's notstaged.
Stephanie Jones (57:36):
We don't like
stage it, so like oh, were we
talking about?
Justin Jones (57:39):
So then it's like,
oh man, what were we talking
about?
Get back in like the standingpositions and stuff.
So of course, after like a longday of filming, I'm like you
got to be kidding me.
Bring me a professional.
Stephanie Jones (57:50):
I like you need
to hire someone else.
Thanks, I'm not a professional.
Justin Jones (57:53):
That's right, sure
.
Heredes (57:54):
Well, bussacribscom,
anywhere else they can find you
guys and anything else you wantto promo or plug.
Stephanie Jones (58:01):
Yeah, Season
one and two are on YouTube on
our on our YouTube channel,Buster Cribs channel, and then
Pierflex has season one.
Still Wait, wait and to see ifthey do season two and three.
Hopefully two and three, yeah.
Heredes (58:13):
And if they want, if
they look and someone's got
either the funds or the need forsome help to renovate, they've
got the property they want toget rid of or get your eyes on.
How do they reach you?
Outro (58:24):
Yeah for sure.
Heredes (58:24):
Yeah.
Justin Jones (58:24):
Just give us a.
Give us a call, go online.
My phone number is 727644016.
Stephanie Jones (58:30):
Oh, you're
giving out that phone number.
Zero.
Okay, it's on the internet.
Justin Jones (58:34):
Yeah, you can give
us a call if you get an
unwanted house or something gotgiven to you.
You know through probate orwhatever that it might be and
it's like they house this forsome reason turn into burdens
for people, whether they want tomove away, they're going
through divorce, there's justtoo much renovation.
It turns into a burden and ifyou're starting to feel like
(58:54):
that burden in the house, thenjust give us a call.
We'd love to we'd love to figureout a way to help you out, and
a lot of times we don't buyevery single house, because some
of the times it's like, well,let's just do this, get it on
the market, it'll sell for more,or maybe it might be in an area
where I'm, like I know, anexpert in that area.
So, utilizing us as a resource,to not just to be like, oh well
, they'll buy it, you know.
(59:15):
So utilizing us for a resource,feel free to just give me a
call and you know if we can helpmove that burden along.
Stephanie Jones (59:21):
And on
bussacryptscom too, we have like
a form someone can fill out,and we also give a finders fee.
So if people send us a goodreferral for a house that we buy
, we give them a referral fee.
Heredes (59:30):
I want to send you
Collins house, yeah, yeah.
Collin (59:33):
As long as you're
planning to upgrade, that's you
know are you renovating rightnow?
Stephanie Jones (59:37):
No, we're not.
Outro (59:38):
No, no, we're good when
we are.
Collin (59:42):
We're fine.
Justin Jones (59:43):
That's why we want
to keep it that way.
He's like how do I get through?
Collin (59:47):
this that was a very
selfish question yeah, we're
going to talk off air that thetears will flow then.
Heredes (59:53):
He's going to title
this episode dear in his wife,
just listen to this one,exclusive one, just for you,
well thanks for having us guys.
Stephanie Jones (01:00:00):
This was fun.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Collin (01:00:01):
Thank you also for
listening to the nonprofit
Renaissance.
We'll see you guys on the nextepisode.
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