August 29, 2025 • 29 mins
I SURVIVED REAL ESTATE 2025
Industry insiders focus on what's ahead for 2025-2026
The Norris Group Presents: The 18th Annual I Survived Real Estate – LIVE at the Nixon Presidential Library
We’re back! The Norris Group’s award-winning black-tie gala, I Survived Real Estate, returns for its 18th year—LIVE from the Nixon Presidential Library. Since 2008, this event has raised over $1 million for Make-A-Wish, and we’re not slowing down.
This year’s backdrop?
A California housing market still starved for inventory, mortgage rates hovering above comfort zones, affordability hitting generational lows, inflation and tariffs. Add in global uncertainty, sticky inflation, and the ever-watchful eye of the Federal Reserve—and you’ve got a landscape full of questions.
- Inventory Drought: California’s housing supply remains critically low
- Rate Pressure: Mortgage rates linger well above buyer comfort zones
- Priced Out: Affordability has collapsed to generational lows
- Global Tensions: War, tariffs, and instability rattle investor confidence
- Inflation’s Grip: Costs remain stubbornly high, squeezing margins
- Tariff Troubles: Rising import costs could ripple through construction and development
- All Eyes on the Fed: Every rate hint could send shockwaves through the market
As always, our expert panel will feature some of the brightest minds in economics, investing, and housing, ready to tackle challenges we didn’t even know we’d have to face—and to help us all prepare for what’s next.
Leading up to the event, The Norris Group Podcast will spotlight both local and national voices shaping the market. If you’re a real estate investor, 2025 is not the year to sit back and watch—it’s a year to be engaged, informed, and ready.
I Survived Real Estate was born out of a crisis. Our mission remains: to unite thought leaders, serve a meaningful cause, and prepare our industry to navigate whatever comes next.
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In this episode:
- Bruce Norris addresses the misleading narratives shaping the real estate market and the role of social media in fueling uncertainty.
- Craig Evans and Bruce discuss how market confusion impacts investors and why clarity is crucial in today’s environment.
- Joey Romero raises the biggest questions on investors’ minds, with Craig stressing the need for reliable data and informed strategies.
- A look ahead to the Investor Panel, where personal stories and experiences provide valuable lessons for today’s market.
- Craig and Bruce explains why mortgage professionals and realtors can gain a strategic edge by attending and applying insights from seasoned investors.
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Narrator (00:01):
Welcome to The Norris Group real estate podcast, a
show committed to bringing youinsights from thought leaders
shaping the real estateindustry. In each episode, we'll
dive into conversations withindustry experts and local
insiders, all aimed at helpingyou thrive in an ever-changing
real estate market. continuingthe legacy that Bruce Norris
(00:24):
created, sharing valuableknowledge, and empowering you on
your real estate journey.
Whether you're a seasoned pro ora newcomer, this is your go-to
source for insider tips, markettrends and success strategies.
Here's your host, Craig Evans.
Joey Romero (00:43):
The Norris Group is proud to present our 18th annual
gala. I Survived Real Estate atThe Nixon Presidential Library
on Friday, September 12. Since2008, our event has raised well
over a million dollars. Thisyear, we'll be raising funds
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Productions, Realty411, and DBLCapital. Welcome back everyone
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to part two of the I SurvivedReal Estate Preview Show. So
this question is for the bothyou also and now you guys have
both different perspectivesright now, because you're
obviously a builder in, youknow, active, working every day,
Bruce, you're, you know, I don'tbelieve that real estate
investors ever retire. Theyjust, they just, kind of...
Bruce Norris (01:48):
Oh, I'm not, I'm not retired yet. I'm still on
unloading 12 houses.
Joey Romero (01:53):
Yeah. So, so you have different perspectives. So
here's my question, what do youthink the most pressing question
is on the minds of investorsthat are showing up to I
Survived Real Estate?
Bruce Norris (02:05):
Well, you know, there's, there's...
Craig Evans (02:07):
Is that only one question?
Joey Romero (02:09):
Let's just start with one, and then we'll, you
know.
Bruce Norris (02:13):
Well...
I think it's soeasy today to get misled by a
Joey Romero (02:13):
Go ahead, Bruce.
website, YouTube, and havepeople that have no clue what
they're talking about, usepercentages as saying that this
is turning into a disaster.
Foreclosures are up 87% whichmean they went from one to 1.87
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not even as a percentage of thevolume of sales, you know, that
type of thing. It's a truestatement. That's very
misleading. There's a guy that Ireally like his data, but, he's
all in kind of on that, youknow, and he uses percentages
all the time, and he believesthat's a correct thing. This is
the worst downturn since 2008.
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Well, there hasn't been onesince 2008. So, okay?
The next one's the worst one.
Bruce Norris (03:06):
Yeah, it's, it's a correct statement that's totally
meaningless. Totallymeaningless. I'm in escrow with
four properties right now. So,you know, somebody wants this
stuff. And anyway, I thinkthat's the biggest problem that
wasn't around before. Can youimagine if it was around in 2006
and '07?
Joey Romero (03:27):
I mean, what's a thousand in 800%?
Bruce Norris (03:31):
But it, you know, it just, I think it allows
people to gain an audience, andI even think that they think
they're correct. So I think thebiggest concern is people are,
is this going to mimic 2008,okay? Well, it's missing
something. It's calledforeclosures. People have loans
at a two and a half and threeand a half percent that make
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their payment less than rent,and they didn't borrow a bunch
of money, so that the hugeequity. So let's say you lose
your job and you can't make yourpayment, you'll sell it, and
you'll walk away with a few$100,000 and it isn't going back
to the lender. So to think thatthat's going to be catastrophic.
So let's, let's go to a subjectwhere Craig is much more expert
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at an eye. There can be otherbundles of properties that have
stress. One of the things thatwe can do is that, you know, we
can take a look at inventory.
Let's say, of people that are 80years old in Florida, they own a
lot of real estate that's goingto get passed on in chunks. So
anyway, there's alwayssomething. But by and large, if
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you think this is going toreplicate 2008, it is not.
Joey Romero (04:46):
So their biggest question is, are you seeing
crash coming? All right? So,right, Craig. Craig, what? What
do you think you're talking todifferent types of people? What
do you think the biggestquestion of investors is going
into, I Survive Real Estate?
Craig Evans (04:58):
Uh, well, I think it stems more around the unknown
and, as Bruce said, themisdirection and misconception
of what's out there. You know,Bruce was talking earlier about
2008 you know, if we look back,you know, social media started
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with MySpace back in like, early2000s, right? By 2010 Facebook
had started like, what was kindof the prevalent social media?
But it was just everybodyshowing a picture of themselves
and talking, right? And what issocial media now? I mean, look
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at some of the stuff that's outthere. How many people look to
social media for their news? Soyou're talking about what was
taking place in 2008 you werestill having to look to news to
get that cycle of what was goingon. Now let's look at what's
happened. You know the thegentleman here in southwest
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Florida, that's a realtor that'sdone 84 transactions in seven
years, somehow gets quoted byThe Wall Street Journal, and
he's now supposedly the expertof Southwest Florida? And the
entire world thinks thatSouthwest Florida is imploding
because of one gentleman that'sdone on average of seven
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transactions a year, and most ofthose were land transactions? At
30 to $40,000 I mean, you knowthis so, so what I'm getting at
is so many people are confusedand don't know what is going on
because they don't know where toget their source of data,
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because data is coming fromeverywhere, and just like Bruce
said, is the aspect of this,this next crash is going to be
the worst since 2008? Well, it'sa true statement, there hasn't
been one, so we're saying that'sa true statement, but it doesn't
mean anything, right? So, so Ithink what I'm really excited
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for this year, with the panelthat we've got and the
announcement that we're going tobe making at I Survived Real
Estate of what's coming. I thinkwe're going to be able to
provide a lot of clarity forpeople this year. I think we're
going to be able to get in andget in an answer and kind of
stabilize the mood of claritythat people just are grasping
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for, what is, what is all of theinformation that we see? What
does it really mean, you know?
That's, honestly my thought. Idon't think it's just one
question. I think it's more of Imean, I love Bruce's moodometer.
What does it show it's reallyabout the mood of the culture of
the buyers and the culture ofthe economy. And so when you
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look at that, and then we lookat social media and the news and
all of the stuff that's beingsaid, it's clear that most of
the people that are talkingdon't know what they're talking
about. They get snippets ofthings, but they don't know how
to correlate that and turn itinto what's actually real and
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factual.
Bruce Norris (08:14):
They have no history of the data, so they
have this little box of data,and think that's the story?
Well, no.
Joey Romero (08:24):
Yeah. Zoom out a little bit.
Bruce Norris (08:27):
Yeah.
Joey Romero (08:27):
So, all right, so 2025 has been a weird economy to
say the least, and especially inthe housing market. You know,
there, we've seen the marketsoften, stock market tank and
recover all time highs, right?
Yet it doesn't feel like we'rethriving. The country doesn't
feel like we're thriving, youknow. Inflation is hanging
around the uncertainty, evenstill with the tariffs. So we
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just talked about what you thinkis on the investor's mind. What
do you guys personally hope totake away from this year's
event?
Bruce Norris (09:00):
I love their background. So same thing, I
have a background in charts forreal estate. Doug Duncan would
have that length of period oftime dealing with recessions and
things that interchange and playwith that. So yeah, I've always
enjoyed attending our own event,because there are smarter people
on the panel tonight.
Joey Romero (09:22):
Half the times, is, how do we solve Bruce's
problems?
Bruce Norris (09:26):
Oh, no, thank you for saying that. That's funny.
Craig Evans (09:32):
That's what's great about this group of people, is
it's not like Facebook orInstagram, where we're trying to
show the best of us. We'rewilling to expose ourselves and
show the worst of us sometimesand say, how the heck do we
solve this? But we're not soarrogant that we're we think we
all know it and and Bruce,through his wisdom of years now,
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has put together groups ofpeople that come to speak in and
pour in and then they're willingto also step back and say, I
know a lot, but I may not knowit all either.
Bruce Norris (10:04):
Yeah, you know what's interesting? What you
just said, the panelists startedto go there. You know, each
panelist had their expertise,and it's like, I know it, but
all of a sudden, over years, itwas sort of like, Hmm, what did
you just say? Wow, that's a cooltwist, you know. And all of a
sudden, truth and exchanges comeout with the, you know,
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brightest brains, but each withan expertise in a different
category, where you could say,Okay, what about this? Or what
about that, you know? So, yeah,it was. It's been so much fun.
Craig Evans (10:35):
So, you know, I'm anxious to see Joey. I'm sorry.
I'm anxious to see what youknow. Bruce, Joey had put a lot
of thought into, who needs to beon these panels, right? What
does this really look like? Andwith the year that we've had,
and the the amount of questions,and the lack of clarity that is
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in the marketplace now, theuncertainty, yeah, I wanted to
make sure that we've got peoplethat have lived those
experiences. So let's look atwhat you got, like you just
mentioned it Doug Duncan, theamount of background that he has
had in seeing inflationarysituations and seeing crashes
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and all of the stuff that had tohappen or that happened through
those periods. He was at thehelm of having to deal with
that. You've got Dan Wallach,you know, he's CEO of Shepperd's
now, well, he was a CFO of 84Lumber during '08. And so you're
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talking about what the numberthree lumber provider in the
country? Number three, numberfour, and all of a sudden,
their, their receivables werenow they knew they weren't
getting them. How do you workthrough just hundreds of
millions of dollars that youknow you're not getting because
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everybody below you is crappedout on you too? You've got and
then, and then we've got you.
We've got investors that arecoming to the table, that have
lived life and can talk aboutscenarios.
Joey Romero (12:16):
Yeah, let me get to that right now, because last
year we had a great investorpanel, tons of takeaway, great
feedback. Probably my favoritemoment of the of the year last
year, but this year we've got aninvestor legends panel. And so
this question is for Bruce.
Bruce, can you give me yourfavorite Pete Fortunato story?
Bruce Norris (12:41):
Wow, I'm blindsided by that.
Joey Romero (12:42):
Hey, you did.
You're the one who doesn't wantthe questions.
Bruce Norris (12:45):
I think, I think Pete Fortunato, honestly, is one
of my, one of my favorite peopleon Earth. That's the best thing
I can say about him. Yeah, he's,he's got a lot of character.
Flew across the country to be atsomebody's funeral that, you
know, was one of the people thatwe've known, and I was just
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like, wow, that's, you know,because, I mean, he's 80
something, it's a little hard toget around, little hard to get
up to the podium, because hemade some that's for Jack
Fullerton funeral. He goesOrange County. Yeah. I just
think, Wow, this is a genuine,genuine human being, man, and
he's always, he's alwaysavailable, yeah? I just Well,
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that's what the Rohny Award waslooking for.
Joey Romero (13:33):
He and John Schaub wanted together in 17.
Bruce Norris (13:36):
Yeah, that's he's just forget about being the real
estate investor as much as it'sjust a human being that actually
really cares, no agenda. That's,you know, that's what I love
about. He doesn't need anythingfrom anybody. He just, he's just
a true individual. What's kindof cool about when he teaches,
of course, he doesn't needanything. He doesn't need to
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look at that book. And the bestthing when you ever attend a
seminar is the Q and A. It goesoff, it goes off the charts
somewhere else.
Joey Romero (14:06):
Well, you know, our investor panel this year is you,
it's Pete and then we have ourold friend, Tony Alvarez, who
is, you know, really excited topick my brain about my weight
loss journey. But that's foranother, another day. But why
does Tony Alvarez stand outamongst investors?
Bruce Norris (14:26):
Oh, it's his personality. I think. I mean he
he gets people to do stuff. I'mtalking about repetitive
relationships. So he's aLancaster. I meet him. He heard
me speak. You know, it's kind offunny. It's It's interesting how
things happen, and peoplerecognize who the other person
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is because of what they did. SoI was speaking in front of an
audience. There was a questionabout commercial real estate,
and without batting an eye, infront of 300 people, I said, you
know, I'm not, I'm really not anexpert on that category, so I'm
the wrong person to ask thatquestion to well, Tony was in
the audience that impressed him,that I automatically just told
the truth, and I didn't have to,I didn't play with it. So he
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came to meet me. Now this wasprobably 2000 and I'm sorry, let
me think about when this was,um, yeah, probably 2001 maybe or
2002 and he owned 50 propertiesin Lancaster, and he came to me
with this list, and he said,I'm, you know, I'm going to be
selling all these things. Isaid, really? Why would you do
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that? He said, why? You know,it's gone up from where it was.
And so that was our firstconversation. I said, Well, I
own 93 building lots nine milesfrom Lancaster, and I'm dragging
my feet to build them. And hewas like, Okay, why? I said,
because you're nowhere, donepeeking out. And so we talked
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about why that was, and what wasthe trigger for me, was
Lancaster was the number onedestination in the whole country
for migration. So if you pricedout a U-Haul going to Lancaster,
it was free. Going out ofLancaster, it was $3,000 some
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crazy or the opposite. Anyway,yeah, the opposite. So he
listened and held on to hisrentals. Now, when it got to the
peak, now it's 2005 I'm sellingthese 93 houses. I'm calling to
Tony. I said, get rid of yourstuff. You know what he says to
me, what month should I do that?
I said...
Joey Romero (16:39):
He's still mad at you because he held a couple of
I stole a couple of them tooearly. He said I could have, I
could have held out two moremonths.
Bruce Norris (16:45):
He said he made 3 million extra dollars. So
anyway, that's how I. Oh, okay.
Now, okay. But one other thingso I said about his character
and personality. He had neverspoken in front of an audience,
but I got to know the guy, and Ireally liked him. I liked who he
was. And we had an event where Imade him the last speaker. Mike
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Cantu said after me, thank Godyou put him not in front of me,
because Mike was still lookingat this notes, you know, reading
basically, and Tony was justpersonable. Well, after a
standing ovation, that was twominutes, people lined up to hug
him. I've never seen anythinglike that.
Joey Romero (17:26):
It was like an Italian deli. You needed a
number.
Bruce Norris (17:29):
It was, it was crazy. I mean, people just love
this guy. So anyway, yeah,that's, uh, he's a special guy.
Joey Romero (17:36):
All right, we're getting a little long here, so
I'm gonna wrap up with a couplelast questions. This was for
both of you, and I'll start withCraig. All right, I get it why
real estate investors want tocome to our event, but give me
your best pitch on why mortgageprofessionals and realtors
should come?
Craig Evans (17:50):
Again, I think if you look at the group of people
that are going to be on stageand the wisdom that they're
going to impart, let me back up.
I don't want to look at this asa meet and greet in a place that
you're going to, you know, do 12deals. Does that happen?
Absolutely. People get in. Theyget a talk and but, but what
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I've seen is that, that's reallynot what happens there, right?
But for real estateprofessionals, for mortgage
brokers, for agents to be there,I think they're going to gain an
understanding of, really, moreabout what the market is doing.
Again, I go back to gainingclarity in the market. You know,
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I was talking with some salesteams from another broker's
office this morning about thisprocess, and they were
dumbfounded that that's whatwe're putting on because they
never heard of that. They'venever heard of something that is
in what we're doing. And I thinkthat so many industries like
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real estate sales, real estatebrokerages, things like that,
oftentimes they're just, they'revery transactional in nature,
and so they just go along withwhat's riding. But to be able to
gain clarity on what themarket's really doing, you know,
I think, I believe that real
Bruce Norris (19:15):
And he was a realtor that got the 2006
estate agents, mortgage brokerscan start to strategize how
their business grows from therein an aspect to really change
their business structure and howthey do business based off the
clarity they can receive.
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California Crash. Well, becausehe believed it, he called all
the lenders before they had anREO. Is that you're going to get
a lot of REOs, and I'm your man.
You know how many listings hetypically had at all times after
it hit?900 I would I went tospeak to his you know, where he
was just, he was just one of thebroker, the one of the agents,
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right? I went to speak to hisoffice. Not, it wasn't his
company, but he worked there, sothey were giving awards. Okay?
This gentleman has 37 closingsthis month, and the next two
have won a piece. Now it's truethat what it, my dog is barking.
Joey Romero (20:34):
Aubrey, go lay down.
Bruce Norris (20:36):
Yeah, lay down.
What it does for mortgage peopleand for realtors, is have them
be able to look at charts and bein the next right position
early. Because that is a bigdeal. That is a very big deal
because once you haverelationships, let's say, with
lender owned properties, theydon't replace you, you've got
the next 20, okay, so Andthere's, there's also, there's
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just a lot of things you canknow in advance and say, Okay,
I'm gonna put myself in theright position deal with the
right people. So investorswouldn't have been really smart
to deal with. Investors thatcould buy 50 houses like Tony
Alvarez when the things were todiscount. Not very many people
did that. That wasn't theirniche. But how many 1000s of the
properties, could they have soldif they did it? So that's why I
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like charts. It gives youdirection in advance, if you
know what it says.
Craig Evans (21:27):
Well, I think Bruce, what you brought out of
that is, again, there's notgoing to be this massive REO
rush of that coming to theproduct. So how do realtors and
mortgage brokers know how tostrategize getting that clarity
and learning that I think isgoing to be so crucial for them
to be able to continue and pushthrough these, seasons of what's
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happening in our market.
Bruce Norris (21:49):
Well, I think it's very valuable, because if you
understand that you're dealingwith a buyer, this is, you know,
I'm just going to, I'm justgoing to wait until prices
crash. Well, that's really not agood idea. If you see the home
you love for the next 20 years.
You know you want to make anoffer and go on it, because what
you're waiting for isn't goingto occur, as a matter of fact,
and this is something that we'llprobably get to talk about on
the, on the panel. But there's acouple of laws that that gets
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passed as some serious gamechanging going to go on for real
estate.
Craig Evans (22:18):
I was gonna say, don't say too much.
Bruce Norris (22:20):
I won't.
Joey Romero (22:22):
All right, you heard it here. Hey. All right,
so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I wasgonna talk about legacy, but you
guys have talked about that.
That was gonna be my lastquestion. So I want to, I want
to take a fun one. All right, sosecond and last question, if you
can get anybody in the countryright now to attend and be on
the panel, who would be yourdream guest?
Bruce Norris (22:42):
Craig, go first.
Craig Evans (22:43):
Wow. Dream guest, wow. So this is, this is an
interesting one, and it'llprobably seem weird, but I think
one of the, I mean, you starttalking about investor, an
institutional investor. Who isit that you come to mind, right?
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Is Warren Buffett. I think tohave Warren Buffett on a panel
like what we're doing with asbrilliant a mind as he is, I
think would be a lot of fun tohave someone like that on a
panel, and not just because ofhis name, but just how he has
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looked at things in the economy,year after year after year, had
been right.
Joey Romero (23:33):
Bruce, who would you? Who would you be your dream
panelist?
Bruce Norris (23:36):
You know what? I'm gonna this isn't a cop out.
We've we've had him, you know.
We've had him for the last howmany years . We've had our we've
had our choice of people coming,and I really feel like we have
the battle that I it's who's whoof our industry, character and
different approaches, you know,like Pete Fortunato. What's cool
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about Pete is who he is, but youpresent Pete Fortunato with a
problem. Oh, it's 20 solutionspop into his head instantly, you
know, because that's where hegoes. So, anyway, I don't have a
Warren Buffett in mind, but Ijust think over the years, we've
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been able to attract the rightgroup of people that have
different expertises and arewilling to let their hair down
and listen to the other peopleand contemplate, huh. Hadn't
thought of that, you know.
Joey Romero (24:38):
So I'll, I'll give you guys an opportunity to just
give you your little lastclosing remarks. But I want to
say something first, for me, ISurvive Real Estate feels like a
family reunion. It really does.
I get to see people that wedon't get to see that often. You
know, we don't do the clubcircuit as much as we did
before, and we got to know a lotof people with our Boot camps,
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with our events. And it reallydoes feel like a family reunion
every I Survived Real Estate. Sothat's what I'm really excited
to see, all the people that arestill in the game. I get to see
all the old pictures of when itfirst started, and to get to see
like, man, like they've beencoming for 20, you know, 18
years these, some of thesefolks. So for me, that's what's
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most exciting to get to see alot of our old friends and a lot
of great, good people that wouldliterally give you the shirt off
their back. So let's, let'sclose with some, just some
closing remarks. Bruce, whydon't you go first and we'll let
it. Craig, finish it off.
Bruce Norris (25:35):
I think my favorite thing about the event
is there's no agenda other thanthe truth. You know, there's no
sales pitches and stuff likethat. It's just like, we've just
got the best people in theindustry that don't do this for
anybody else on on a whole paneltogether, and they trust each
other enough to bat it around.
It just doesn't get better thanthat. It's just doesn't.
Joey Romero (25:55):
Craig?
Craig Evans (25:56):
I mean, listen, it is an honor to carry on the
tradition and the legacy thatBruce and Aaron started. So
there's a lot of weight everytime I you know, last year and
now this year, and there's a lotof weight of prepping for that
and things like that. But I takethat with love and cherish it.
But as I said at the beginning,listen, all the stuff that we do
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in the industry is great, but atthe end of the day, to have an
opportunity to, as an industry,affect children's lives that
need a touch at the mostdevastating time of their lives.
To me, I am I am unashamed atsaying, if you don't have your
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ticket, go get it. If youhaven't sponsored, go get it.
And it's not about making money.
We we lose money on this deal asa company, and I, we will
forever do that if that's whatwe do to be able to effectively
change kids lives. So I amthrilled for September the 12th.
Can't wait. I'm excited, excitedto see everybody. I'm excited to
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be around greats, of the greatsand best of the best. But I'm
excited to know that as a groupof people, we can effectively
change kids lives. That's whatI'm ready for.
Joey Romero (27:14):
Craig, Bruce, thank you so much for jumping on and
doing our I Survived Real Estatepreview show. So there you heard
it. September 12 at The NixonPresidential Library again. Come
dressed to the night and enjoy agreat meal and some great
information, and go give yourold your old family members,
some hugs. All right, guys,thank you. That'll be all for
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this week, and we'll see you ina couple weeks.
Bruce Norris (27:37):
I can't wear this shirt?
Joey Romero (27:39):
You can. You can.
Bruce Norris (27:45):
Put it under my touch.
Craig Evans (27:46):
That's it, that's it.
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to part two of the I SurvivedReal Estate Preview Show. So
this question is for the bothyou also and now you guys have
both different perspectivesright now, because you're
obviously a builder in, youknow, active, working every day,
Bruce, you're, you know, I don'tbelieve that real estate
investors ever retire. Theyjust, they just, kind of...
Bruce Norris (01:48):
Oh, I'm not, I'm not retired yet. I'm still on
unloading 12 houses.
Joey Romero (01:53):
Yeah. So, so you have different perspectives. So
here's my question, what do youthink the most pressing question
is on the minds of investorsthat are showing up to I
Survived Real Estate?
Bruce Norris (02:05):
Well, you know, there's, there's...
Craig Evans (02:07):
Is that only one question?
Joey Romero (02:09):
Let's just start with one, and then we'll, you
know.
Bruce Norris (02:13):
Well...
I think it's soeasy today to get misled by a
Joey Romero (02:13):
Go ahead, Bruce.
website, YouTube, and havepeople that have no clue what
they're talking about, usepercentages as saying that this
is turning into a disaster.
Foreclosures are up 87% whichmean they went from one to 1.87
(02:34):
not even as a percentage of thevolume of sales, you know, that
type of thing. It's a truestatement. That's very
misleading. There's a guy that Ireally like his data, but, he's
all in kind of on that, youknow, and he uses percentages
all the time, and he believesthat's a correct thing. This is
the worst downturn since 2008.
(02:59):
Well, there hasn't been onesince 2008. So, okay?
The next one's the worst one.
Bruce Norris (03:06):
Yeah, it's, it's a correct statement that's totally
meaningless. Totallymeaningless. I'm in escrow with
four properties right now. So,you know, somebody wants this
stuff. And anyway, I thinkthat's the biggest problem that
wasn't around before. Can youimagine if it was around in 2006
and '07?
Joey Romero (03:27):
I mean, what's a thousand in 800%?
Bruce Norris (03:31):
But it, you know, it just, I think it allows
people to gain an audience, andI even think that they think
they're correct. So I think thebiggest concern is people are,
is this going to mimic 2008,okay? Well, it's missing
something. It's calledforeclosures. People have loans
at a two and a half and threeand a half percent that make
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their payment less than rent,and they didn't borrow a bunch
of money, so that the hugeequity. So let's say you lose
your job and you can't make yourpayment, you'll sell it, and
you'll walk away with a few$100,000 and it isn't going back
to the lender. So to think thatthat's going to be catastrophic.
So let's, let's go to a subjectwhere Craig is much more expert
(04:15):
at an eye. There can be otherbundles of properties that have
stress. One of the things thatwe can do is that, you know, we
can take a look at inventory.
Let's say, of people that are 80years old in Florida, they own a
lot of real estate that's goingto get passed on in chunks. So
anyway, there's alwayssomething. But by and large, if
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you think this is going toreplicate 2008, it is not.
Joey Romero (04:46):
So their biggest question is, are you seeing
crash coming? All right? So,right, Craig. Craig, what? What
do you think you're talking todifferent types of people? What
do you think the biggestquestion of investors is going
into, I Survive Real Estate?
Craig Evans (04:58):
Uh, well, I think it stems more around the unknown
and, as Bruce said, themisdirection and misconception
of what's out there. You know,Bruce was talking earlier about
2008 you know, if we look back,you know, social media started
(05:19):
with MySpace back in like, early2000s, right? By 2010 Facebook
had started like, what was kindof the prevalent social media?
But it was just everybodyshowing a picture of themselves
and talking, right? And what issocial media now? I mean, look
(05:40):
at some of the stuff that's outthere. How many people look to
social media for their news? Soyou're talking about what was
taking place in 2008 you werestill having to look to news to
get that cycle of what was goingon. Now let's look at what's
happened. You know the thegentleman here in southwest
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Florida, that's a realtor that'sdone 84 transactions in seven
years, somehow gets quoted byThe Wall Street Journal, and
he's now supposedly the expertof Southwest Florida? And the
entire world thinks thatSouthwest Florida is imploding
because of one gentleman that'sdone on average of seven
(06:24):
transactions a year, and most ofthose were land transactions? At
30 to $40,000 I mean, you knowthis so, so what I'm getting at
is so many people are confusedand don't know what is going on
because they don't know where toget their source of data,
(06:44):
because data is coming fromeverywhere, and just like Bruce
said, is the aspect of this,this next crash is going to be
the worst since 2008? Well, it'sa true statement, there hasn't
been one, so we're saying that'sa true statement, but it doesn't
mean anything, right? So, so Ithink what I'm really excited
(07:07):
for this year, with the panelthat we've got and the
announcement that we're going tobe making at I Survived Real
Estate of what's coming. I thinkwe're going to be able to
provide a lot of clarity forpeople this year. I think we're
going to be able to get in andget in an answer and kind of
stabilize the mood of claritythat people just are grasping
(07:29):
for, what is, what is all of theinformation that we see? What
does it really mean, you know?
That's, honestly my thought. Idon't think it's just one
question. I think it's more of Imean, I love Bruce's moodometer.
What does it show it's reallyabout the mood of the culture of
the buyers and the culture ofthe economy. And so when you
(07:50):
look at that, and then we lookat social media and the news and
all of the stuff that's beingsaid, it's clear that most of
the people that are talkingdon't know what they're talking
about. They get snippets ofthings, but they don't know how
to correlate that and turn itinto what's actually real and
(08:11):
factual.
Bruce Norris (08:14):
They have no history of the data, so they
have this little box of data,and think that's the story?
Well, no.
Joey Romero (08:24):
Yeah. Zoom out a little bit.
Bruce Norris (08:27):
Yeah.
Joey Romero (08:27):
So, all right, so 2025 has been a weird economy to
say the least, and especially inthe housing market. You know,
there, we've seen the marketsoften, stock market tank and
recover all time highs, right?
Yet it doesn't feel like we'rethriving. The country doesn't
feel like we're thriving, youknow. Inflation is hanging
around the uncertainty, evenstill with the tariffs. So we
(08:48):
just talked about what you thinkis on the investor's mind. What
do you guys personally hope totake away from this year's
event?
Bruce Norris (09:00):
I love their background. So same thing, I
have a background in charts forreal estate. Doug Duncan would
have that length of period oftime dealing with recessions and
things that interchange and playwith that. So yeah, I've always
enjoyed attending our own event,because there are smarter people
on the panel tonight.
Joey Romero (09:22):
Half the times, is, how do we solve Bruce's
problems?
Bruce Norris (09:26):
Oh, no, thank you for saying that. That's funny.
Craig Evans (09:32):
That's what's great about this group of people, is
it's not like Facebook orInstagram, where we're trying to
show the best of us. We'rewilling to expose ourselves and
show the worst of us sometimesand say, how the heck do we
solve this? But we're not soarrogant that we're we think we
all know it and and Bruce,through his wisdom of years now,
(09:55):
has put together groups ofpeople that come to speak in and
pour in and then they're willingto also step back and say, I
know a lot, but I may not knowit all either.
Bruce Norris (10:04):
Yeah, you know what's interesting? What you
just said, the panelists startedto go there. You know, each
panelist had their expertise,and it's like, I know it, but
all of a sudden, over years, itwas sort of like, Hmm, what did
you just say? Wow, that's a cooltwist, you know. And all of a
sudden, truth and exchanges comeout with the, you know,
(10:26):
brightest brains, but each withan expertise in a different
category, where you could say,Okay, what about this? Or what
about that, you know? So, yeah,it was. It's been so much fun.
Craig Evans (10:35):
So, you know, I'm anxious to see Joey. I'm sorry.
I'm anxious to see what youknow. Bruce, Joey had put a lot
of thought into, who needs to beon these panels, right? What
does this really look like? Andwith the year that we've had,
and the the amount of questions,and the lack of clarity that is
(11:00):
in the marketplace now, theuncertainty, yeah, I wanted to
make sure that we've got peoplethat have lived those
experiences. So let's look atwhat you got, like you just
mentioned it Doug Duncan, theamount of background that he has
had in seeing inflationarysituations and seeing crashes
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and all of the stuff that had tohappen or that happened through
those periods. He was at thehelm of having to deal with
that. You've got Dan Wallach,you know, he's CEO of Shepperd's
now, well, he was a CFO of 84Lumber during '08. And so you're
(11:42):
talking about what the numberthree lumber provider in the
country? Number three, numberfour, and all of a sudden,
their, their receivables werenow they knew they weren't
getting them. How do you workthrough just hundreds of
millions of dollars that youknow you're not getting because
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everybody below you is crappedout on you too? You've got and
then, and then we've got you.
We've got investors that arecoming to the table, that have
lived life and can talk aboutscenarios.
Joey Romero (12:16):
Yeah, let me get to that right now, because last
year we had a great investorpanel, tons of takeaway, great
feedback. Probably my favoritemoment of the of the year last
year, but this year we've got aninvestor legends panel. And so
this question is for Bruce.
Bruce, can you give me yourfavorite Pete Fortunato story?
Bruce Norris (12:41):
Wow, I'm blindsided by that.
Joey Romero (12:42):
Hey, you did.
You're the one who doesn't wantthe questions.
Bruce Norris (12:45):
I think, I think Pete Fortunato, honestly, is one
of my, one of my favorite peopleon Earth. That's the best thing
I can say about him. Yeah, he's,he's got a lot of character.
Flew across the country to be atsomebody's funeral that, you
know, was one of the people thatwe've known, and I was just
(13:07):
like, wow, that's, you know,because, I mean, he's 80
something, it's a little hard toget around, little hard to get
up to the podium, because hemade some that's for Jack
Fullerton funeral. He goesOrange County. Yeah. I just
think, Wow, this is a genuine,genuine human being, man, and
he's always, he's alwaysavailable, yeah? I just Well,
(13:30):
that's what the Rohny Award waslooking for.
Joey Romero (13:33):
He and John Schaub wanted together in 17.
Bruce Norris (13:36):
Yeah, that's he's just forget about being the real
estate investor as much as it'sjust a human being that actually
really cares, no agenda. That's,you know, that's what I love
about. He doesn't need anythingfrom anybody. He just, he's just
a true individual. What's kindof cool about when he teaches,
of course, he doesn't needanything. He doesn't need to
(13:56):
look at that book. And the bestthing when you ever attend a
seminar is the Q and A. It goesoff, it goes off the charts
somewhere else.
Joey Romero (14:06):
Well, you know, our investor panel this year is you,
it's Pete and then we have ourold friend, Tony Alvarez, who
is, you know, really excited topick my brain about my weight
loss journey. But that's foranother, another day. But why
does Tony Alvarez stand outamongst investors?
Bruce Norris (14:26):
Oh, it's his personality. I think. I mean he
he gets people to do stuff. I'mtalking about repetitive
relationships. So he's aLancaster. I meet him. He heard
me speak. You know, it's kind offunny. It's It's interesting how
things happen, and peoplerecognize who the other person
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is because of what they did. SoI was speaking in front of an
audience. There was a questionabout commercial real estate,
and without batting an eye, infront of 300 people, I said, you
know, I'm not, I'm really not anexpert on that category, so I'm
the wrong person to ask thatquestion to well, Tony was in
the audience that impressed him,that I automatically just told
the truth, and I didn't have to,I didn't play with it. So he
(15:11):
came to meet me. Now this wasprobably 2000 and I'm sorry, let
me think about when this was,um, yeah, probably 2001 maybe or
2002 and he owned 50 propertiesin Lancaster, and he came to me
with this list, and he said,I'm, you know, I'm going to be
selling all these things. Isaid, really? Why would you do
(15:34):
that? He said, why? You know,it's gone up from where it was.
And so that was our firstconversation. I said, Well, I
own 93 building lots nine milesfrom Lancaster, and I'm dragging
my feet to build them. And hewas like, Okay, why? I said,
because you're nowhere, donepeeking out. And so we talked
(15:59):
about why that was, and what wasthe trigger for me, was
Lancaster was the number onedestination in the whole country
for migration. So if you pricedout a U-Haul going to Lancaster,
it was free. Going out ofLancaster, it was $3,000 some
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crazy or the opposite. Anyway,yeah, the opposite. So he
listened and held on to hisrentals. Now, when it got to the
peak, now it's 2005 I'm sellingthese 93 houses. I'm calling to
Tony. I said, get rid of yourstuff. You know what he says to
me, what month should I do that?
I said...
Joey Romero (16:39):
He's still mad at you because he held a couple of
I stole a couple of them tooearly. He said I could have, I
could have held out two moremonths.
Bruce Norris (16:45):
He said he made 3 million extra dollars. So
anyway, that's how I. Oh, okay.
Now, okay. But one other thingso I said about his character
and personality. He had neverspoken in front of an audience,
but I got to know the guy, and Ireally liked him. I liked who he
was. And we had an event where Imade him the last speaker. Mike
(17:06):
Cantu said after me, thank Godyou put him not in front of me,
because Mike was still lookingat this notes, you know, reading
basically, and Tony was justpersonable. Well, after a
standing ovation, that was twominutes, people lined up to hug
him. I've never seen anythinglike that.
Joey Romero (17:26):
It was like an Italian deli. You needed a
number.
Bruce Norris (17:29):
It was, it was crazy. I mean, people just love
this guy. So anyway, yeah,that's, uh, he's a special guy.
Joey Romero (17:36):
All right, we're getting a little long here, so
I'm gonna wrap up with a couplelast questions. This was for
both of you, and I'll start withCraig. All right, I get it why
real estate investors want tocome to our event, but give me
your best pitch on why mortgageprofessionals and realtors
should come?
Craig Evans (17:50):
Again, I think if you look at the group of people
that are going to be on stageand the wisdom that they're
going to impart, let me back up.
I don't want to look at this asa meet and greet in a place that
you're going to, you know, do 12deals. Does that happen?
Absolutely. People get in. Theyget a talk and but, but what
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I've seen is that, that's reallynot what happens there, right?
But for real estateprofessionals, for mortgage
brokers, for agents to be there,I think they're going to gain an
understanding of, really, moreabout what the market is doing.
Again, I go back to gainingclarity in the market. You know,
(18:33):
I was talking with some salesteams from another broker's
office this morning about thisprocess, and they were
dumbfounded that that's whatwe're putting on because they
never heard of that. They'venever heard of something that is
in what we're doing. And I thinkthat so many industries like
(18:54):
real estate sales, real estatebrokerages, things like that,
oftentimes they're just, they'revery transactional in nature,
and so they just go along withwhat's riding. But to be able to
gain clarity on what themarket's really doing, you know,
I think, I believe that real
Bruce Norris (19:15):
And he was a realtor that got the 2006
estate agents, mortgage brokerscan start to strategize how
their business grows from therein an aspect to really change
their business structure and howthey do business based off the
clarity they can receive.
(19:49):
California Crash. Well, becausehe believed it, he called all
the lenders before they had anREO. Is that you're going to get
a lot of REOs, and I'm your man.
You know how many listings hetypically had at all times after
it hit?900 I would I went tospeak to his you know, where he
was just, he was just one of thebroker, the one of the agents,
(20:10):
right? I went to speak to hisoffice. Not, it wasn't his
company, but he worked there, sothey were giving awards. Okay?
This gentleman has 37 closingsthis month, and the next two
have won a piece. Now it's truethat what it, my dog is barking.
Joey Romero (20:34):
Aubrey, go lay down.
Bruce Norris (20:36):
Yeah, lay down.
What it does for mortgage peopleand for realtors, is have them
be able to look at charts and bein the next right position
early. Because that is a bigdeal. That is a very big deal
because once you haverelationships, let's say, with
lender owned properties, theydon't replace you, you've got
the next 20, okay, so Andthere's, there's also, there's
(21:00):
just a lot of things you canknow in advance and say, Okay,
I'm gonna put myself in theright position deal with the
right people. So investorswouldn't have been really smart
to deal with. Investors thatcould buy 50 houses like Tony
Alvarez when the things were todiscount. Not very many people
did that. That wasn't theirniche. But how many 1000s of the
properties, could they have soldif they did it? So that's why I
(21:22):
like charts. It gives youdirection in advance, if you
know what it says.
Craig Evans (21:27):
Well, I think Bruce, what you brought out of
that is, again, there's notgoing to be this massive REO
rush of that coming to theproduct. So how do realtors and
mortgage brokers know how tostrategize getting that clarity
and learning that I think isgoing to be so crucial for them
to be able to continue and pushthrough these, seasons of what's
(21:48):
happening in our market.
Bruce Norris (21:49):
Well, I think it's very valuable, because if you
understand that you're dealingwith a buyer, this is, you know,
I'm just going to, I'm justgoing to wait until prices
crash. Well, that's really not agood idea. If you see the home
you love for the next 20 years.
You know you want to make anoffer and go on it, because what
you're waiting for isn't goingto occur, as a matter of fact,
and this is something that we'llprobably get to talk about on
the, on the panel. But there's acouple of laws that that gets
(22:12):
passed as some serious gamechanging going to go on for real
estate.
Craig Evans (22:18):
I was gonna say, don't say too much.
Bruce Norris (22:20):
I won't.
Joey Romero (22:22):
All right, you heard it here. Hey. All right,
so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I wasgonna talk about legacy, but you
guys have talked about that.
That was gonna be my lastquestion. So I want to, I want
to take a fun one. All right, sosecond and last question, if you
can get anybody in the countryright now to attend and be on
the panel, who would be yourdream guest?
Bruce Norris (22:42):
Craig, go first.
Craig Evans (22:43):
Wow. Dream guest, wow. So this is, this is an
interesting one, and it'llprobably seem weird, but I think
one of the, I mean, you starttalking about investor, an
institutional investor. Who isit that you come to mind, right?
(23:06):
Is Warren Buffett. I think tohave Warren Buffett on a panel
like what we're doing with asbrilliant a mind as he is, I
think would be a lot of fun tohave someone like that on a
panel, and not just because ofhis name, but just how he has
(23:27):
looked at things in the economy,year after year after year, had
been right.
Joey Romero (23:33):
Bruce, who would you? Who would you be your dream
panelist?
Bruce Norris (23:36):
You know what? I'm gonna this isn't a cop out.
We've we've had him, you know.
We've had him for the last howmany years . We've had our we've
had our choice of people coming,and I really feel like we have
the battle that I it's who's whoof our industry, character and
different approaches, you know,like Pete Fortunato. What's cool
(24:01):
about Pete is who he is, but youpresent Pete Fortunato with a
problem. Oh, it's 20 solutionspop into his head instantly, you
know, because that's where hegoes. So, anyway, I don't have a
Warren Buffett in mind, but Ijust think over the years, we've
(24:21):
been able to attract the rightgroup of people that have
different expertises and arewilling to let their hair down
and listen to the other peopleand contemplate, huh. Hadn't
thought of that, you know.
Joey Romero (24:38):
So I'll, I'll give you guys an opportunity to just
give you your little lastclosing remarks. But I want to
say something first, for me, ISurvive Real Estate feels like a
family reunion. It really does.
I get to see people that wedon't get to see that often. You
know, we don't do the clubcircuit as much as we did
before, and we got to know a lotof people with our Boot camps,
(24:58):
with our events. And it reallydoes feel like a family reunion
every I Survived Real Estate. Sothat's what I'm really excited
to see, all the people that arestill in the game. I get to see
all the old pictures of when itfirst started, and to get to see
like, man, like they've beencoming for 20, you know, 18
years these, some of thesefolks. So for me, that's what's
(25:19):
most exciting to get to see alot of our old friends and a lot
of great, good people that wouldliterally give you the shirt off
their back. So let's, let'sclose with some, just some
closing remarks. Bruce, whydon't you go first and we'll let
it. Craig, finish it off.
Bruce Norris (25:35):
I think my favorite thing about the event
is there's no agenda other thanthe truth. You know, there's no
sales pitches and stuff likethat. It's just like, we've just
got the best people in theindustry that don't do this for
anybody else on on a whole paneltogether, and they trust each
other enough to bat it around.
It just doesn't get better thanthat. It's just doesn't.
Joey Romero (25:55):
Craig?
Craig Evans (25:56):
I mean, listen, it is an honor to carry on the
tradition and the legacy thatBruce and Aaron started. So
there's a lot of weight everytime I you know, last year and
now this year, and there's a lotof weight of prepping for that
and things like that. But I takethat with love and cherish it.
But as I said at the beginning,listen, all the stuff that we do
(26:20):
in the industry is great, but atthe end of the day, to have an
opportunity to, as an industry,affect children's lives that
need a touch at the mostdevastating time of their lives.
To me, I am I am unashamed atsaying, if you don't have your
(26:41):
ticket, go get it. If youhaven't sponsored, go get it.
And it's not about making money.
We we lose money on this deal asa company, and I, we will
forever do that if that's whatwe do to be able to effectively
change kids lives. So I amthrilled for September the 12th.
Can't wait. I'm excited, excitedto see everybody. I'm excited to
(27:01):
be around greats, of the greatsand best of the best. But I'm
excited to know that as a groupof people, we can effectively
change kids lives. That's whatI'm ready for.
Joey Romero (27:14):
Craig, Bruce, thank you so much for jumping on and
doing our I Survived Real Estatepreview show. So there you heard
it. September 12 at The NixonPresidential Library again. Come
dressed to the night and enjoy agreat meal and some great
information, and go give yourold your old family members,
some hugs. All right, guys,thank you. That'll be all for
(27:34):
this week, and we'll see you ina couple weeks.
Bruce Norris (27:37):
I can't wear this shirt?
Joey Romero (27:39):
You can. You can.
Bruce Norris (27:45):
Put it under my touch.
Craig Evans (27:46):
That's it, that's it.
Joey Romero (27:49):
Don't forget to visit isurvivedrealestate.com
for tickets to the event onFriday, September 12. The Norris
Group would like to thank thefollowing Gold sponsors,
Keystone CPA, The Inland ValleysAssociation of Realtors,
Pasadena FIBI, The North SanDiego Real Estate Investors
Association, LA south REIA,NorCal REIA, The Wizard of the
(28:11):
Wobbly Box, Andy Teasley,Shepherd's Finance, The Thompson
Group, PropertyRadar and WhiteHouse Catering. The dinner wine
is provided with a generouscontribution by Rick and Leanne
Rossiter. Hope see you allthere.
Narrator (28:25):
For more information on hard money loans, trust deed
investing, and upcoming eventswith The Norris group. Check out
thenorrisgroup.com. For moreinformation on passive investing
through the DBL Capital RealEstate Investment Fund, please
visit dblapital.com.
Joey Romero (28:44):
The Norris Group originates and services loans in
California and Florida underCalifornia DRE license 01219911.
Florida mortgage lender license1577 and NMLS license 1623669.
For more information on hardmoney lending go to
thenorrisgroup.com and click thehard money tab.the Norris group
originates and services loans inCalifornia and Florida under the
California Dre license,01219911, Florida mortgage
lender license, 1577, and an MLSlicense, 1623669, for more
information on hard moneylending. Go to the Norris
group.com and click the hardmoney tab.
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