Step inside The Goat Brewing with us in this vibrant episode of the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast! We dive deep into a diverse tasting session featuring ten unique beers that showcase the creativity and innovation of craft brewing. From classic brews like the Black Ruby Oatmeal Stout to bold experiments such as the Gose with Salsa, each sip opens a new conversation about flavors, aromas, and personal preferences.
Meet us at the bar as we sample a mix of stouts, sours, and creative ciders. We'll share our candid thoughts on the light yet bold Katz Imperial Pilsner, ponder the complex notes of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre Raspberry Chocolate Dark Sour Ale, and appreciate the balance of flavors in the Racket Caramel Cinnamon Hard Cider.
As we explore the Boss Doppelbock and the Mountain Goat Belgian Tripel, we reflect on the significance of style-specific characteristics and how they influence our ratings. This episode isn't just a tasting—it’s a celebration of craft beer culture, highlighting the community and camaraderie that surrounds it.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome to the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast.
Grab a beer and pull up a chair.
Welcome to the Northwoods BeerGuy Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the
Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast.
This is Mike, the NorthwoodsBeer Guy, and, as always, I'm
joined by Jim.
Hello everybody.
Hey, mike, how are you doing?
I'm doing good man.
How about yourself?
Well, we're in a bar, so youcan't not be good no we're not
in a bar, we're in a tap room.
We're in a tap room, so it'seven better.
It's even better In a brewery,in a brewery, so it's really
(00:54):
good.
We are actually in Lee Summit,missouri, never heard of it.
Have you?
I have heard of it, but notthat much, there you go uh, and
we are in the goat, the goat.
So is there a town?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
that's close by this lee summit.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And what's the bigger town?
Oh, the bigger town, it'skansas city.
There you go.
Yep, so we had.
We had left kansas city afterwe went to my boulevard and
we're working our way backtowards where we're actually
staying Right, and we found thegoat, the goat, the goat.
Is it now?
You told me before, before itwent on the air?
(01:33):
This is different than HornyGoat.
Yes, this is correct.
This is a different brewery.
This is the goat brewing, notHorny Goat brewing Okay so.
I just want to make sure I so Ididn't taste these incorrectly.
Correct, correct, okay, and weare doing a couple of flights,
and here there are five beerflights.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So we got 10 beers.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That's five beers.
Five beers in a flight, so wehave 10 beers.
We're going to try and it'skind of an interesting flight.
I mean, they got these littlemetal.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Look like mustaches.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Kind of yeah, but I think they're supposed to be
goat horns, I think.
Oh, but we'll leave it at that.
You could like grab this andlike throw it around, can't you?
Oh yeah, you could, exceptdon't stab yourself, they're
kind of sharp.
And he said don't slide them.
And don't slide them, he said,because they kind of tip over.
So the first beer that we have,we already got interruptions.
(02:24):
Oh geez, now she doesn't haveto drink a beer now.
Now she doesn't have to be partof it.
We can't block that out.
See, oh yeah, okay, we're doingfive on the first beer that we
have.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I don't have a piece of paper, is there?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Black Ruby, it's an oatmeal stout, yes, and we do
not have any kind of write-upother than ABV and IBUs.
And style and style 4.6% ABV,28 IBUs.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
All right, oh it smells like an oatmeal stout.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I wonder why it got the name Black Ruby, the same
way that it got the name theGoat.
There's a stout aroma.
Yes, it's not bad.
It is not bad it definitely tome has a little bit of that
roasted malt.
It's roasted.
You get that burnt flavor to ita little bit.
It's not bad but, it's not like.
(03:23):
It's kind of a what's a goodword.
I'm trying to think of a goodword for the flavor.
The burntness kind of sticksout more than anything.
It definitely has like aroasted malt flavor.
I'm trying the aroma.
I'm trying to look at the color.
I mean the color is not.
It's a little lighter.
I mean I can see my fingersthrough it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So it's not.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's dark, but it's not like Smooked oil.
There you go.
Yeah, it is.
So I mean, it's what you wouldexpect for an oatmeal stout kind
of that color, you know.
I guess the burnt comes outmore.
Oh, we got a smoky coming overhere.
Smoky, yeah, that's kind of theyeah Kind of.
The main flavor is kind of thatburnt malt.
(03:59):
That really.
Now, on my second taste, itreally comes through.
Yeah, I agree with you.
So, mike, what do you think I'mgoing to go?
I'm going to do like a 2.77.
It's not bad, it's better thanaverage, but it definitely still
has that, like I said, a lot ofa burnt, like a roasted malt
(04:20):
flavor.
It almost dries your mouth outtoo, and the finish does.
I think I was going to go with2.6.
And our guest that wants toremain anonymous is going to say
what are you going to say?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
What are the from 1 to 1?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
0 to 5.
In 1 tenth increments I'd go2.8.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
2.8.
I enjoyed it 2.8.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
2.8.
I enjoyed it.
2.8.
2.8 for our guests.
All right, all right, so not abad way to start off.
Like I said, I've never had anybeers from here before, so you
don't know what you're gettinginto.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Right, and we don't have any.
Yeah, there's no write-up.
We don't know what's in it Evenon their menu.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was just here's the beer, here's the style.
It was the same thing, so allright.
So we got one done, yes, andnow we're doing.
The next one is the StValentine's Day Massacre
Raspberry Chocolate Dark SourAle.
So this does have a differentcolor.
This is a different color 4.4%ABV, two IBUs.
(05:23):
Have we ever had a beer withthat few IBUs?
I don't know that.
That actually calls it out.
I don't know.
2 IBUs, that's odd.
I can't really smell much ofanything.
Huh Well, let's give her awhirl, all right, as long as you
try it first, you don't hurl.
It's not bad.
It's a sour but it's definitely.
(05:46):
You get that raspberry of thechocolate kind of brings it down
.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's not bad.
Oh, I don't mind that thatone's not like a part.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
No, not a tart.
That one surprises me a littlebit then the raspberry is not
that bad.
No, the raspberry is not.
It's not like a tart raspberryand that one chocolate kind of
mellows it down.
It's not bad.
That kind of reminds me of thebar in town brewing.
So a little bit, a little bit,it's, it's.
It's actually not that bad.
But there is like the faintsour on the finish.
I hate to say it, between thefirst two I'd rather drink this
(06:13):
one.
Honestly, it's not.
I mean, the sour is like righton the very, very end.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean, it's not that bad really.
It's not a strong, sour.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's surprising, but I don't get the dark chocolate.
The raspberry kind ofoverpowers the chocolate.
I think you get the raspberryfor sure, right?
Yes, the chocolate.
I'm guessing that's whatprobably mellows it out a little
bit, but it's not bad.
It's better than I thought itwas going to be.
Right, this is definitelybetter than the first one.
(06:43):
Yes, I would agree, I guess.
What do you think on the scoreon that one, jim?
So the Raspberry Chocolate DarkSour Ale, st Valentine's Day
Massacre.
The second one was even moresour than the first two.
I think I'm going to have togive it a solid 2.0.
For me it's just as sour.
Okay, I can't.
I thought it would get weakeras I drank it more, down to the
(07:06):
glut, but they actually thesourness came out more.
So it's a little.
I was.
I was hoping for more raspberrychocolate.
I'm gonna have to go to pointtwo, point oh, all right, what
are you thinking?
Um, I don't mind it, I'm gonnatake another taste here.
I'm gonna go a.
I'll go like a 2.4.
Oh, I mean, it's almost averagefor me, I know, for you it's
(07:28):
not terrible by any means, but Imean we've had better.
Don't get me wrong.
It didn't reach Barn Town.
I thought it would.
It was like the first sip wasgood and then Barn Town was
really, really good.
This is for, like your othersour beer place.
This is not a bad sour for adifferent place, right, but it's
(07:52):
not Barntown level.
So, yes, all right, our guestAnonymous.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I actually think it's a nice blend of flavors.
The raspberry does come onstrong, but if you're a
raspberry lover, then you'regoing to like this one.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So what would you give it for a score?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Probably a 2.6.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So you like the first one better.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, no.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, you just said 2.8.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well then, I'm going higher with this.
It's 2.9.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
2.9?
.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I like it All right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, you've got to make sure you get your scores
right.
The listeners are going to getconfused.
If you see you like the firstone, we get this worst score.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
This is actually.
This is a.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's a completely different type of drink than the
first one To me it's a complete.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I don't know, from a stout to a sour.
Yeah, it's completely different.
Yeah, you can finish my part.
It's that difference I loveraspberries, so that's probably
why the raspberries?
But?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
the raspberries are mellow.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes On the right, it could be the dark chocolate or
the dark sour.
I don't know which one it is.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Either one.
At the end you have theraspberries and at the end you
taste the chocolate.
My tongue gets it.
I have the berries.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yes, I'll pass, not my favorite, all right.
All right, what do we gotcoming up?
So the next one we have is catsLike meow Yep, and this is
their Imperial Pilsner.
All right, 8.5 percent abv and13 ibus.
(09:30):
So do you know offhand I'mputting you in a spot how many
imperial pilsners have we tried?
Not very many, I mean.
It's not many.
I mean like I was thinking likeunder five, I would think I'm
sure.
I'm sure I mean we had manyPilsners, right.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Pilsners are not.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Pilsners all day long , but Imperial.
We haven't had that many, sothis should be twice as strong,
it should be, Like two MillerLights in one, can you would
think.
You would think it's definitelydarker than your normal
(10:07):
Pilsilsner.
You know, I mean darker, butstill you can see through it,
right, right.
So this is a double millerlight.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, flavor isn't bad, so there is flavor, there's
flavor to it and it's thickerthan I thought it was going to
be.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
you know what I mean.
Um, but I don't know what theflavors are coming through.
Right, right, it doesn't tastelike your mass-produced big-box
beers, but it does have flavorto it.
I mean it's not, I mean for aPilsner Right and, like I said,
for 8.5%, it drinks smooth.
You know, I mean that one'sactually, I think I like that
(10:39):
one, the best for me so far,just because I mean so.
I know it's going to be apilsner, so I know there's not
going to be flavor, but there'ssomething that's a little bit.
It puts it a step above it.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yep, I agree, I agree .
I wish I knew what that it'sgot an intangible being, that
imperial Right In a good way.
In a good way.
That's what are you thinking ona score?
Well, let me have one more sip.
All right, I'll take another sipBecause, like I said, we are
doing taster glasses.
So what are you?
8.5%, so much that I'm going togo with 3.1.
Wow, I like this one.
(11:15):
I like the flavor.
I think I could drink a couplebottles of this on a hot date.
Okay, oh, we.
A couple bottles of this on ahot date.
Okay, oh, we almost had acatastrophe.
We almost had a catastrophe andshe doesn't even realize it.
Okay, so you're going to 3-1.
I'll go 3-1.
Okay, what are you thinking?
I'm thinking I'm going to golike a 2.8.
(11:37):
All right, it's not bad.
I mean, for a pilsner it'spretty good, you know.
It definitely has more flavor,I think, than your box store
type Pilsners.
But like I said, personally Iguess I would rather drink
either one of the first two thesecond one for sure over this
one.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But it's not bad.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I know my score was still higher than this one,
but I do still think that socould you drink this on a hot
day after you get done mowing,yeah, you could.
If you had this on ice coldsitting in the shade.
This would be the.
I think I would reach for thisbeer.
Yeah, you could drink this one,Even though it's 8.5%.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
it's not a lawn mower beer by any means but it's
still you could drink it Afteryou get done lawn mowing.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, any means, but it's still After you get done
one more.
Yeah, you can drink it, Ourguest.
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I think this is my favorite so far.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh, even better than the rest.
The rest, Barry.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yes, this has a nicer blend.
It's not getting ending.
It's just a nice mix of flavors.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So could you drink a whole glass of this?
Oh, yes, definitely.
So, what would you give for ascore?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Probably a 3.3.
I like it a lot.
Wow, I like it a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
You didn't say it right.
I like it a lot, is that how?
Yeah, a lot, a lot.
Oh, you're getting it.
So you can finish that one.
Yeah, I thought that one wasvery good, yeah, so you can
finish that one.
Yeah, I thought that one wasvery good, yeah, I mean it has
good flavor to it.
It's not your normal Pilsnerflavor you don't get many like
(13:10):
just the basic, ale lagerPilsner flavor.
This one has something.
Yep I agree with you.
I don't know exactly what, butit has flavor.
Yep, I agree with you.
All right, so we're down threeout of five on the first.
Yep, I agree with you.
All right, so we're down threeout of five on the first Yep.
So we got two left in the firstflight, all right.
So what do we got next?
So the next one.
We'll grab the darker coloredone, which is kind of like an
(13:33):
amber.
Look, all right, this is theBoss.
Doppelbach.
Ale Is it this Boss, or is itthis Boss?
It's not the Boss.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh, it is the Boss it .
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's not the boss, oh , it is the boss.
It's not the boss, it's theboss.
Oh, can we call it BruceSpringsteen?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No, we can't call it Bruce Springsteen.
Oh okay, we don't want to getin trouble.
Ah okay, all right, this is8.3% ABV and 19 IBUs.
Oh, it smells like a Doppelbach.
So is this like a doppelbach?
So is this like a doppelgangerkind of?
So it like mimics another one,right?
Oh, that's got kind of athicker flavor to it.
I would say we've definitelyhad some other doppelbachs that
(14:13):
are better.
Yeah, there's something.
I mean, it's got really a darktaste to it, almost.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't know how you want to classify it, but so you
know and it weird, you know,armchair quarterbacking it
without knowing so.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Right.
What did they do then to thedoppel to make it 8.3 yeah, I
don't know, because that's highfor a doppel right.
So they did something you know,and I wonder if that affected
the flavor it could have,because, like I said it, it
definitely.
Most of your doppelbox are notthat high of abv, no, but, and
this one is, but it's definitelygot a stronger flavor to it.
(14:47):
I'm still, the finish is stillit's not cleared by mouth yet.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I mean it's like hanging on, I mean, and what's
weird?
It's not like totally bad Right, it's not horrendous, but it's
like it's there.
I mean, you know so a lot ofbeers.
You want to be able to take thedrink after the finish.
Your mouth is clean.
But this one is like ooh,there's stuff there.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
There's something hanging.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
That's the only way to say it is.
There's stuff there.
It's like got my tongue andit's not going to let go.
I agree, dude.
I agree, I'm not sold on thisone.
Yeah, this one's a little.
I mean, you know me, I likeDoppelbox, I like Box, all that
stuff.
This one is definitely astronger flavor to it and kudos
for them, you know, bumping upthe ABV.
Oh yeah, yes, kudos, but theflavor is just a little.
(15:38):
But boy, it's a strong.
It's not an easy uh drink,right?
I agree with you?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
what?
Uh?
Oh, you're gonna put me in thecorner, put you in the corner.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
What do you think on the score?
I think I'm gonna have to golike a 2.2.
I think I'm gonna have to lowerit down.
Yeah, it's, it's not bad, it'sjust it.
It takes some getting used to.
It's right, I agree.
Yeah, the finish.
I my mouth is drying out likeit's hoppy.
I mean it's not the hop, butthere's something drying my
mouth out, right, and it's stillthere lingering.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, and I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And I really like Doppelbox, you know I do I like?
Doppelbox.
I like Box, but boy, this one,the flavor is really strong, and
again it's 8.3%, so it'sdefinitely higher than normal
Yep, but boy, that flavor reallyhits you in the mouth.
Oh, and I'm going to go.
I agree, I'm going to go like a2.2 as well, are you?
Yeah, it's just really strong Alittle bit too much.
(16:38):
Yes, there you go.
I agree 100%.
That's the best way to say it.
It is.
I agree 100%.
That's the best way to say it.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I think they had a good plan, but it didn't really
kind of come off it didn'tmaterialize.
Guest.
I agree, this is my leastfavorite of all of them.
So far.
At the end it stays in yourmouth and it's not one of that
people.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It hangs on too long and it's like I'm probably going
to get a better one.
2.0?
Yeah, all right, there too longand it's like I'm probably
gonna get about 2.0.
All right, there is, there areno wrong answers no, it's still
in my mouth.
Yeah it dries it out.
Yes, almost like super hoppy,but but it's not a hop but it's
not because I I mean, no, it'snot, it's something different.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It just doesn't get out of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
All right, so now all .
So our last, 100% agree.
Our last beer on the firstflight.
All right, is there RocketCaramel Cinnamon.
Wait wait, wait, that's an A.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Rocket, I'm sorry, I thought you said Rocket, it's
Rocket.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Caramel, cinnamon.
I just caught that too.
It's a sweet, a sweet hardapple cider with caramel and
cinnamon, cinnamon, cinnamon,cinnamon, cinnamon, cinnamon,
and it's a 6% ABV, wow, and itdefinitely looks like it's an
apple cider.
So it's hard apple cider.
Oh boy, wait till you smellthis one.
(17:57):
You farted.
No, no, oh, no, no.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I thought you were warning me.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
This one smells like caramel apple, all right, well,
just let me know if you do,though this one's about the
clearest one we got.
Yeah, I can see my fingers allthe way through.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I can see.
Take a whiff on that one.
Oh, there's caramel.
There's caramel in that one,wow, yeah, there's caramel apple
in that for sure.
Wow, but that's not a beer, isit?
It's a cider.
So is that technically a beer?
Or, yeah, it's technically abeer?
Oh, again, I guess is likegoing what?
(18:33):
Well, pass that one around tosee what.
Yeah, well, everybody else, trythat one, that's a caramel.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It tastes like a beer car are sent.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's a racket.
Caramel, cinnamon, that's 6%.
Yep, pass it down that way.
So what do you think of thatone, jim, I mean?
So I struggle.
I think we went through this,since it's a hard cider, is it
technically a beer?
I know we talked that it is abeer.
Right, it's a beer.
(19:02):
Yeah, so it's.
I mean it's because it doesn'thave a lot of the qualities of a
beer.
Right, that's, that's right.
You know, that's where Istruggle.
So I'm trying to compare thishard cider against some of our
good beers.
But I mean, there's nothing,nothing bad, nothing wrong,
nothing horrendous.
I mean right, could I drink asix pack of it?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
no, I mean I couldn't , because I get heartburn.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I think so on a hot day, could I?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
get an ice cold one.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh yeah, An ice cold one.
Yeah, you could For sure.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You know, that's always the kicker with cider is
like, is it beer or not?
Right, and technically, yes, itis, but you know, that's just
kind of the hard part of it.
You know, yes, and we're tryingto be like, I think, give the
cider the benefit, we're nottrying to knock it because it's
not 100% a beer, correct?
(19:48):
So do you want me to go?
I'll go.
I'm going to go with two points.
I've got to double check so youdon't get mad.
Oh, I had what I was going togo with.
I'll go with two and a half.
Right in the average, right inthe middle.
It's not bad, I do think if youdrink more than one, you get
heartburn?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, I get heartburn , yeah, and it's 26%.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's not bad.
It definitely has that caramelflavor.
Yes, you know, I get thecaramel.
I kind of get cinnamon, I getapple and caramel is what I get.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Right, oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So yeah, all right, I'm going to actually go a 2.3.
Okay, I'm not a big fan, it's,it's okay, it's just, uh, I
don't know it, somehow it justdoesn't mix right for me as a
beer, right, it almost has, italmost has a french toast smell
to it.
Yeah, you know, I mean it'skind of that, that smell and
(20:42):
like, well, huh, it is for me.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I think it smells better than it tastes sure, yeah
, you know and it's not one thatI don't think I could drink a
whole day, not even on a hot day.
No, I don't enjoy that.
I didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So what do?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
you think 1.9.
I really didn't like it, oh wow.
She's dropping the hammer Evenafter mowing the lawn with the
bush mower, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Even on a hot day.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I don't think so.
I think you're going to share.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
All right well.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
And I love apples and I love apple cider and I love
that and I just didn't get theblend.
All right, it didn't cometogether for me I understand.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Good answer, all right, perfect.
So I understand.
Good answer, all right, perfect.
So now we're going to move onto our second.
Oh, there we go, flight.
This one's going to.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
This one.
There's a few more.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
That could be interesting, yeah, so.
So can we have the goose withthe salad?
You want to do that one first?
Yeah, we can.
So this is their cartel.
And this is a goose with salsa.
Oh, and this is a ghost withsalsa.
Oh, it's not the goose withsalad.
It's not the goose with salad,it's a ghost with salsa.
It looked like that.
(21:53):
Four and a half percent andnine IBUs.
So when I ordered the flight,the gentleman at the bar said
this is something that you'venever had before.
I've never had goose with salad.
So I'm not sure if that meansit's going to be really bad or
what.
So we're going to find out.
So what is a goose?
A goose is a style of beer.
(22:15):
It's not a goose.
It's not a goose, it's a ghost.
There's only one out.
But I don't know what salsa is.
I've never had a beer withsalsa, and that's not a salad.
There's not a fruit salad inthere.
I'm trying to concentrate onthe smell here.
Oh, I might have parted.
Don't concentrate too hard.
There's salsa in there, that isI can safely say, I've never
tasted a beer like that onebefore.
You may have just intimidatedme to have some.
(22:37):
Wow, interesting, that isinteresting.
Give her a whirl, are you sure?
Oh yeah, give her a whirl.
Definitely salty.
Oh my gosh, it tastes likesalsa, like liquid salsa.
It is liquid salsa.
(22:58):
Wow, that is definitelydifferent.
Where's my chip?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
wow, I need a chip with that, one that is liquid
salsa.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Very salty, very salty flavor.
The finish is very.
The finish is very salty.
Very salty flavor.
The finish is very.
The fish is very salty verysalty we had a oh good God.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
no, oh good God.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Let me give it to Mike's dad.
That is definitely unique.
It tastes like liquid salsa,that is, it is like liquid salsa
and it's only 4.5% ABV.
All right, that is definitelyunique.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, you're going first on this one buddy he did
not lie.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
He said it's like nothing you've ever tasted
before, and I agree 100%.
We've never had that I've nevertasted a beer like that before.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Does that mean, it's good?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It doesn't necessarily mean it's good.
I'm already getting heartburn.
Yeah, I'm going to go, I'mburping it.
So do we have to rate it basedon the beers we had on the first
page or no, or is this a brandnew?
Okay, I'm going to go with 2.0because it's definitely,
definitely different.
But it's like whew, I don'tnecessarily know if I could
(24:29):
drink a can of that.
You couldn't.
I'm not sure.
It's four point five.
Four point five, nine I'd use.
Yeah, there's no.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
There's no hoppy in this no, no, no, there's no hops
it's just that it's like woof.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Oh, it's interesting, you went down to it too.
Huh, when I have though Irarely see you go down that low.
You know that, I know, but thisone was.
It was kind of wow, you knowI'm thinking you're not even
going to go up a two, are you?
I'm going to go 1.5.
Yeah, see it, definitely it'sstill there.
(25:05):
I can't get it out.
Like I said, it tastes like aliquid salsa.
I might need some sandpaper.
All right, our special guest.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Well, when I can tomatoes, it's like what's left
in the bottle of the can.
I didn't enjoy it.
It wasn't beer, it wasn't asalsa, it wasn't anything.
It was that good?
Oh no, it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh, it wasn't a beer.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It wasn't a salsa ride, it wasn't anything.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
It was that good, oh, no, it wasn't oh.
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, if you want to pour it over some chips, maybe
it'd be good, but to drink, no,it could be.
I'm a pretty mean critic, Ithink yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I would give it like a 1.
0?
, 1.0.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Wow.
Wow, like I said, I think Iwould get heartburn out of that
deal If I drank a whole can ofit.
It would be like.
Yeah, you could surprisesomebody if you did that.
Totally that was different thananything I've ever tasted
before.
So crazy.
I was like points fororiginality.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yes, yes I mean that was a good effort though.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yes, but they may have just poured out some salsa.
Yeah, screened it, yeah allright.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
What are we on the?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
next one we have is their mountain goat.
Mountain goat and this is theirbelgian triple.
All right, 10.3 abv and 32 ibus.
All right, so we're stepping itup a notch.
We're stepping her up quite abit.
A Belgian Tripel, so it shouldbe it should have that Belgian
(26:33):
flavor to it, so it should tastesimilar to the last one then,
right.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
How do you clear that up?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That definitely tastes like a Belgian Tripel.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Similar to the last one.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
No, that didn't taste like salsa at all.
There's no salsa in that one.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
How do you clear from the one before though?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But for a Belgian triple that's not bad.
That is definitely not thesalsa.
No, that's not the salsa.
But there's definitely Belgianyeast in there.
Oh, yeah, there's Belgian yeastfor sure in there.
You know, and not to knock thisone, but the cherry quad that
we had at Boulevard, oh, thatwas extremely, that was really
good, very good.
(27:10):
Yeah, this is not.
This definitely has thatthicker mouthfeel to it.
Yeah, this is not, as it hasthat thicker mouthfeel to it and
it's like it definitely hasthat Belgian yeast flavor.
You can tell it's Belgian, ohyeah for sure I mean, I can
(27:33):
handle this one though.
Yeah, oh yeah, compared to theIf you want this or the salsa,
I'll take this one all day long.
Because that salsa one was justlike oof, oof, oof.
I'm surprised, you know, Idon't see your score down that
low, I know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I know, I'm surprised you know I don't see your score
down that low.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I know, I know that one caught me off guard.
This might be my.
I might be in unchartedterritory with you.
2.0.
So on the triple, on the triple, I'm going to go.
I don't mind that one as bad.
I'm going to do like a 2.8.
Oh, wow, yeah, I don't mind it.
I could drink this one or thesalsa one.
I don't know if I could drinkthat one.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
to be honest, with you, you couldn't drink the
whole can.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I couldn't drink a can of it.
It was too freaky-beaky for me.
I think it had a little slighttouch of Dutch.
It had something in there thatwas not very good.
Wow, and you know me, I am nota Belgian, right?
Yep, that's why I was so takenback by the cherry from
(28:33):
Boulevard, right, because thatwas good.
Yep, this one, that's good forme.
I'm going to say a 2.5.
Okay, it's got that Belgian,just like it's got that Belgian
yeast flavor, if you're not usedto it, where the quad at
Boulevard didn't really havethat.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
It kicks you in the knee Right If you're not used to
it.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, I agree, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And I enjoy Belgian gear.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Oh, so what do you think?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I enjoy Belgian gear.
I would give it like a 2.9 atleast.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Wow.
What did she say?
2.9, at least wow.
What did she say 2.9?
Oh, dang see, how did you see?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
wow it gets in your mouth, it's in there, you drink
it and it just wait wait, wait,wait.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Say that again.
What did I do?
Say that louder, it gets inyour mouth.
That's a good thing right.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, it is a good thing.
I enjoy Belgian beer.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I'm not a Belgian guy .
Speaker 3 (29:41):
You know, you've got to remember, I lived in Germany
before and after, so you know Ilike that little bit of
strongness.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Did you try that Belgian quad with the cherry at
the last that?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
was Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's liquid salsa.
The cherry actually overtookthe Belgian yeast part.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Was it good?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Was the cherry good?
The cherry was good.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
We're at now.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
We are on to our 2.9.
Our lone barrel-aged beer here.
Okay, this is their barrel-agedRiverside Park.
All right, imperial Stoutwhiskey, barrel-aged we don't
know what kind of whiskey.
Whiskey 10% ABV, 40 IBUs.
All right, so still not way outthere, right, not to get scared
(30:32):
.
Right, it should be decent.
Yeah, I can't.
Just from the aroma I can'ttell what kind of it, definitely
does have.
It has kind of a whiskey flavorto it.
I can smell something.
It's smooth.
It does definitely have more ofa whiskey, a little bit of a
whiskey burn to it.
I can smell something.
It's smooth.
It does definitely have more ofa whiskey, a little bit of a
whiskey burn to it more so thanBoulevard did Riverside Park,
(30:55):
would you agree?
Yes, I think it has a littlebit more of a burn to it than
what the other ones Boulevarddid, definitely it's stronger.
Oh yeah, it's got that littlebit more of a burn to it.
Yeah, this is not just theregular Imperial Stout.
So what do you like?
I said I think I'm reallygetting the strong.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I'm getting more of the bourbon.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yes, the whiskey flavor Right Than I am any other
, even the Stout part, Becauseit says barrel aged or whiskey
barrel aged Okay so.
Like we talked about before,right, right.
So they have a base, right.
They're imperial stuff, right.
We haven't tried that.
No, we don't know what that isat all.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
We don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
But then they age it in a whiskey barrel.
So now we're trying to decipherwhat these are.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So I don't know we're Right, these are.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I don't know I wish I knew what this one was.
Yes, because that or what thewhiskey?
What whiskey they use?
You know what I mean?
Because I wish I knew what thewhiskey that they used was.
I'm sorry we're laughing atPeople are trying the salsa beer
yet and it's not going oververy well.
So this is their whiskey barrelage Right.
(32:10):
So we talk about you.
You know there are somebreweries right that have a
really good stout, yes, who thenmake it imperial stout, who
have a good.
They have a good base, yeah.
And then when they put it inthese bourbon barrels or whiskey
barrels or, right, any kind ofbarrel, right, they have it.
They comes out good becausecorrect.
So for me I'm strugglingbecause I don't taste the good
(32:32):
base, I agree, you know I tastemore of.
So did they age it?
They aged the, I don't know.
They see there's a lot of theplate, the bourbon, the
whiskey's coming through, forthe hard part is we're coming
off of going to boulevard.
They know what they're doing,yes.
I don't know if this is thegoat's first attempt at a barrel
(32:53):
age.
I don't know 100%.
You know what I mean.
So we really don't know wherein the progression they're at.
100%, you and I can tell that,right, because we're not experts
, correct, correct, but we'reprobably.
We've drank enough to know ifsomething's good or not.
(33:14):
We're probably pretty close.
So for us, for me, I think Iwould have to say this is not as
good as I was hoping.
Right, it's not bad, but Idon't know if I can give it a
good, solid score.
No, no For a barrel-aged beerlike.
I said I wish we knew if thiswas their first attempt at it or
not.
Yes, If it was their firstattempt, I probably would give
(33:36):
it a little more leniency, Yep.
But we don't know that, so I'mgoing to just rate it like I
normally would.
I'm going to go like a 2.4, Iguess.
I mean, I think it's a littlebit below average, you know, and
I know that it's 10%, but it'sjust kind of lacking you know,
and whatever that flavor is.
(33:58):
It's not something that I couldsit there and say, oh, you need
to try this, right, and you know, in good conscience, to say
you've got to try it becauseit's really just kind of it's
there and here's.
I don't know if I can evenoffer a recommendation that they
would get through this, but youknow, you're trying a new beer
(34:18):
and you have all these othervariants and you might I can't
say you are, but you might bescaring away some novice beer
drinkers I agree 100 with you,you know, because in this place
your first, somebody that hasn'thad a barrel age beer before.
This is not one I recommendbecause it does have that
stronger right.
(34:39):
And here we are at a place with, I mean, there's a lot of
younger people hanging out andthis might be their first try
and I'll be like well, I'm nevergonna try a barrel age's beer
again.
Right.
So I'm right with you.
I was going to go with 2.4.
I think it is just a little bitbelow average.
Okay, I agree 100%, and ourguests.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
My favorite part of that was the finish.
It's done.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, vanilla came out for me, vanilla came out of
that.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It For me vanilla came out of that.
It wasn't the beginning of.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Did she say vanilla?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Vanilla, I didn't get vanilla.
Ice ice baby, I didn't getvanilla.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
She must be hammered drunk.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
At the end of it it was vanilla.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Which one.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I mean, I'm not saying it was bad, but the end
of it was vanilla.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Oh, that was the Crass, Crass yeah, isn't that
For me, the end was vanilla.
That was a very strong taste ofvanilla at the end of it.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I did not catch that, but I really didn't taste it.
But so what are you thinking onthe score?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
It was a strong flavor to begin with, and then
also just like that of meld, andit was vanilla.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Right, that's kind of very.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Right, yeah, right.
So what are you thinking?
2.9.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, she's hammered drunk.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Wow, Wait, wait wait.
You just gave them all and goto 2.9.
You can't have the same scores.
Oh she yeah she can.
It's because you changed therules.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
She can have it.
She can have the same score, solet me ask you this yeah know
then, if you like one more thanthe other.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
If you give them the same score, maybe I liked them
equally, so then how would?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
the listener know that you should, because I have
the same score there and therebut you have a belgian triple
but for a different reason.
My reasons were different fromthat one to that one.
You're not gonna win.
You can punch him if you wantto.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Well, so you do this we don't do it for us, we do it
for the, the listeners.
So I'm going to put you on thespot which one is better, the
triple or the stout?
Which?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
one's the triple.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I'm sorry, I'm still trying to finish.
I'm still trying to finish thissalsa beer and it's just like
ugh.
I'm going to put you on thespot, just so that the listeners
know you have one that's betterthan the other.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I would say the mountain goat is better.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Okay, so it's not going to hurt.
But then the listeners know,hey, if they come in here.
They don't know who your secretperson is.
Right, exactly All right.
So, mike, what do we got now?
I'm sorry, I'm trying to getrid of that salsa taste up in my
mouth.
The next one we have is theChesterfield Club Barbara Ann.
(37:11):
Barbara Ann, this is astrawberry chocolate blonde ale.
Okay, 4.9% ABV and 16 IBUs.
This kind of has me intrigued.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
It actually does this , has these good flavors.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So, kat, we have a chocolate strawberry blonde ale.
I'm kind of looking forward tothis one, low ABV and low ABU.
Oh, it smells chocolatey.
It smells color-wise, I mean itlooks like you're a blonde ale,
a normal blonde ale.
It looks like a blonde ale.
Aroma-wise, it smellschocolatey.
(37:48):
That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That is actually not too bad.
The chocolate kind of keeps thestrawberry in check.
It's not over the top of eitherone.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
That's not bad.
It's not bad.
Strawberry blonde, strawberry,chocolate blonde, ale that's
different.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's actually not bad .
Speaker 2 (38:05):
That one's that's not .
I don't mind that one.
I mean for the other flavors Iwas.
I mean that's actually prettygood.
Yeah, I mean for the otherflavors I was.
I mean that's actually prettygood.
Yeah, for a blonde ale whichnormally doesn't have much
flavor, realistically to have astrawberry chocolate, right, it
gives it just enough to whereyou can taste it, right, you
(38:27):
know it's not bad.
I'm actually liking it a littlebit.
Yeah, I hate to say it, it'skind of not bad.
Yeah, the strawberry andchocolate kind of balance each
other out and I don't mind it,honestly.
I think I could actually drink acan of it.
I could probably drink a can ofit after mowing the lawn and
(38:49):
it's hot out.
It's a cold day, it's a coldbeer.
That's not bad.
That one's not bad.
That one's it's not bad.
Yeah, I mean I think that theflavors are not over the top.
No, I mean they're a little bitmuted.
So I mean, right like I don't.
And somehow they got thechocolate and the strawberry.
(39:09):
They almost counteract eachother yeah, you know, yeah, and
it.
it's yeah, and it doesn't havelike that.
Like normally you get likealmost a sour flavor to it.
It doesn't have that you know,or the strawberries are too
bitter.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I mean, when you smell it, you definitely get
yeah, I get the strawberry, butit's not that over-the-top, you
know, because we've had some too.
Over-the-top strawberries.
Oh yeah For sure.
So I guess I'll go first.
I'm like a mediocre fan, Ithink.
Okay, I'll probably go like a2.7.
Okay, my rationale is theflavors are not very distinct.
(39:45):
It's not bad, but I don't tastea lot of strawberry, I don't
taste a lot of chocolate.
I don't know if they counteracteach other, but they make a
good flavor, but not anover-the-top flavor.
So I was kind of looking for alittle bit more flavor.
Okay, yep, I understand, formyself, boy, I'm going to go
(40:06):
like a.
I'm going to do a 2.7 as well.
Okay, I think, honestly, thestrawberry and chocolate flavors
I thought worked very welltogether, but there wasn't
enough there to raise it up tolike a 3.
Right, you know what I mean.
It's good, but it needed alittle bit more.
(40:30):
That's what I thought, you know.
So I could drink one.
Right, you know, on a hot dayyou could drink it, but I think
that it was just kind of it hada little bit more and it would
have been even better.
Yes, yep, I agree.
Our guest.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
To me it was a better mix with the chocolate and the
strawberries Okay, and I wouldnot drink it as a beer like when
it was hot out, okay, I woulddrink it as a dessert beer.
Okay, it's because thoseflavors came out from the
chocolate and strawberries.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
All right, so what would you give it as a?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
A 3.1.
3.1.
I enjoyed it.
3.1.
I enjoyed it.
She is hammered girl.
Wow, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
She is hammered girl.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Wow, I would not drink it as a beer.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I would drink it as a dessert beer.
As a good beer as a dessertbeer or a dessert beer.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Okay, she's hammered girl.
That's hammered like a dance onthe table.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
All right, so we're done with our tenth.
Here's our tenth and final beerhere at the Goat, and this is
Eastwood coming around.
This is Clint oh, not Eastwoodthe Clint the Crusher.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know, I think you knowanother Clint.
Yep, I sure do so, do you?
(41:50):
Do you call him the Crusher?
No, no, that's the name of thisbeer.
Is that the nickname you had?
Nope, back across the river.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Maybe so you can ask your dad.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
This is a smoked porter with dark cherry.
5.4% ABV, 30 IBUs.
We got the Clint.
Jim finally admits he's got theClint that has a definite
smoked flavor to it.
You're going to get that smoked,oh yeah.
Oh, I don't.
This is a smoked porter withdark cherry, but I don't taste
(42:25):
the dark, the cherry at all.
I get smoke, heavy smoke, heavysmoke flavor.
Wow, a heavy smoke flavor, wow.
And again, we've tried a lot ofsmoked beers, but every time
it's like taking a bite of aburnt log.
This has a very smoky flavor toit.
(42:46):
This is smoky, very smoky.
My mouth is drying out like I.
It's smoky, it's smoky, it'ssmoky Boy.
I don't know about that one.
I don't taste any cherry at all.
No, I don't get that at all,especially dark cherry.
Yeah, when that's what it callsis a smoky porter with dark
(43:10):
cherry, I'm expecting to get thedark cherry flavor.
I mean, the color of the beeris a little bit red, right, but
it is.
I don't get any cherry flavorwhatsoever it is so.
I just I get smokiness andthat's it.
It tastes like I reached into afire and grabbed out a stick
(43:32):
and stuck it in my mouth and youwent.
Oh, that's good, you know, Idon't know.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that one.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
You want to throw your score out right now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I'm going to go a 2.
Well, let's see, you got a 2, a2.7.
What was that one?
Oh, that's on the run.
I'm got a 2, a 2.7.
What was that one?
Oh, that's on Iran.
I'm going to go like a 2.3.
Oh, it's very it's smoky to me.
I don't get any of the cherryflavor whatsoever, so I'm going
(44:06):
to go, yeah, 2.3.
So would you recommend this tothe novice beer drinker?
I don't think so, because it'sa lot of novice if they have
never tasted especially a smokybeer before.
This is pretty smoky, yes, andI think a smoked flavor can turn
people off real quick.
So that's what I think.
So I'm going to have to golower than you, buddy.
(44:29):
I got to go 1.9.
I am not a big smoke guy.
I can't.
My mouth is still drying out.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It's very smoky I can't, I can't do it.
The smoke completely overtookthat beer.
You smelt it, you tasted it younever tasted, taste it any more
yeah no, no, I'm going to golower than you.
I'll $1.8.
$1.8?
Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, there we go All right.
So we're at the goat brewing.
Yep, we're at goat brewing.
Overall, I mean it was a neatplace.
I mean I like the brewery theyhave.
I give them credit, for theytry all sorts of different
things.
Yep, and they got a lot of tabs, a lot of taps, a lot of
(45:18):
different mixed drinks too.
Yes, yeah, so you can get amixed drink and food, so you got
a lot.
You can come in here and theygot the.
There's a karaoke going, so Ithink it's worth the stop.
Yeah, I mean some of the beersI think they have to do some
tweaking on.
Yeah, I mean some of the beersI think they have to do some
tweaking on to get them good.
But there was beers, I think,that are just not quite there,
(45:39):
but they're very close to beingthere.
Yes, and there's other onesthat are kind of like need a
little bit more work.
Yes, but they're close.
Yes, and, like I said, I'venever been here before, so this
is my 161st brewery I've been to.
All right, yeah, they did agood job.
It's a nice place.
It's almost like a baratmosphere.
(46:01):
Well, they're breaking intokaraoke now, so we probably
should cut them down.
All right, yeah.
So the Goat in Lee's Summit,missouri.
It's a cool place.
Yes, like I said, they have allsorts of different beers,
different food, all that.
It's really a cool environment.
(46:24):
Yes, and I'm glad we came hereand, like I said, some of the
beers are extremely close tobeing super good.
They're close, they're veryclose.
So, yes, like I said, if youget a chance, stop here, stop
here.
Yes, I think you'll enjoy it.
Same thing.
Awesome.
Let's get a beer and let's havesome food.
Yeah, we're going to get somefood and some beer and, ladies
(46:46):
and gentlemen, thank you forlistening and, like we always
say, I hope your campfire isalways warm and your beers are
always cold, see you?
Speaker 1 (46:52):
See ya.
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(47:14):
your beer is cold.
Welcome to the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast.
Grab a beer and pull up a chair.
Welcome to the Northwoods BeerGuy Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the
Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast.
This is Mike, the NorthwoodsBeer Guy, and, as always, I'm
joined by Jim.
Hello everybody.
Hey, mike, how are you doing?
I'm doing good man.
How about yourself?
Well, we're in a bar, so youcan't not be good no we're not
in a bar, we're in a tap room.
We're in a tap room, so it'seven better.
It's even better In a brewery,in a brewery, so it's really
(00:54):
good.
We are actually in Lee Summit,missouri, never heard of it.
Have you?
I have heard of it, but notthat much, there you go uh, and
we are in the goat, the goat.
So is there a town?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
that's close by this lee summit.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And what's the bigger town?
Oh, the bigger town, it'skansas city.
There you go.
Yep, so we had.
We had left kansas city afterwe went to my boulevard and
we're working our way backtowards where we're actually
staying Right, and we found thegoat, the goat, the goat.
Is it now?
You told me before, before itwent on the air?
(01:33):
This is different than HornyGoat.
Yes, this is correct.
This is a different brewery.
This is the goat brewing, notHorny Goat brewing Okay so.
I just want to make sure I so Ididn't taste these incorrectly.
Correct, correct, okay, and weare doing a couple of flights,
and here there are five beerflights.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So we got 10 beers.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That's five beers.
Five beers in a flight, so wehave 10 beers.
We're going to try and it'skind of an interesting flight.
I mean, they got these littlemetal.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Look like mustaches.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Kind of yeah, but I think they're supposed to be
goat horns, I think.
Oh, but we'll leave it at that.
You could like grab this andlike throw it around, can't you?
Oh yeah, you could, exceptdon't stab yourself, they're
kind of sharp.
And he said don't slide them.
And don't slide them, he said,because they kind of tip over.
So the first beer that we have,we already got interruptions.
(02:24):
Oh geez, now she doesn't haveto drink a beer now.
Now she doesn't have to be partof it.
We can't block that out.
See, oh yeah, okay, we're doingfive on the first beer that we
have.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I don't have a piece of paper, is there?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Black Ruby, it's an oatmeal stout, yes, and we do
not have any kind of write-upother than ABV and IBUs.
And style and style 4.6% ABV,28 IBUs.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
All right, oh it smells like an oatmeal stout.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I wonder why it got the name Black Ruby, the same
way that it got the name theGoat.
There's a stout aroma.
Yes, it's not bad.
It is not bad it definitely tome has a little bit of that
roasted malt.
It's roasted.
You get that burnt flavor to ita little bit.
It's not bad but, it's not like.
(03:23):
It's kind of a what's a goodword.
I'm trying to think of a goodword for the flavor.
The burntness kind of sticksout more than anything.
It definitely has like aroasted malt flavor.
I'm trying the aroma.
I'm trying to look at the color.
I mean the color is not.
It's a little lighter.
I mean I can see my fingersthrough it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So it's not.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's dark, but it's not like Smooked oil.
There you go.
Yeah, it is.
So I mean, it's what you wouldexpect for an oatmeal stout kind
of that color, you know.
I guess the burnt comes outmore.
Oh, we got a smoky coming overhere.
Smoky, yeah, that's kind of theyeah Kind of.
The main flavor is kind of thatburnt malt.
(03:59):
That really.
Now, on my second taste, itreally comes through.
Yeah, I agree with you.
So, mike, what do you think I'mgoing to go?
I'm going to do like a 2.77.
It's not bad, it's better thanaverage, but it definitely still
has that, like I said, a lot ofa burnt, like a roasted malt
(04:20):
flavor.
It almost dries your mouth outtoo, and the finish does.
I think I was going to go with2.6.
And our guest that wants toremain anonymous is going to say
what are you going to say?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
What are the from 1 to 1?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
0 to 5.
In 1 tenth increments I'd go2.8.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
2.8.
I enjoyed it 2.8.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
2.8.
I enjoyed it.
2.8.
2.8 for our guests.
All right, all right, so not abad way to start off.
Like I said, I've never had anybeers from here before, so you
don't know what you're gettinginto.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Right, and we don't have any.
Yeah, there's no write-up.
We don't know what's in it Evenon their menu.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It was just here's the beer, here's the style.
It was the same thing, so allright.
So we got one done, yes, andnow we're doing.
The next one is the StValentine's Day Massacre
Raspberry Chocolate Dark SourAle.
So this does have a differentcolor.
This is a different color 4.4%ABV, two IBUs.
(05:23):
Have we ever had a beer withthat few IBUs?
I don't know that.
That actually calls it out.
I don't know.
2 IBUs, that's odd.
I can't really smell much ofanything.
Huh Well, let's give her awhirl, all right, as long as you
try it first, you don't hurl.
It's not bad.
It's a sour but it's definitely.
(05:46):
You get that raspberry of thechocolate kind of brings it down
.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's not bad.
Oh, I don't mind that thatone's not like a part.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
No, not a tart.
That one surprises me a littlebit then the raspberry is not
that bad.
No, the raspberry is not.
It's not like a tart raspberryand that one chocolate kind of
mellows it down.
It's not bad.
That kind of reminds me of thebar in town brewing.
So a little bit, a little bit,it's, it's.
It's actually not that bad.
But there is like the faintsour on the finish.
I hate to say it, between thefirst two I'd rather drink this
(06:13):
one.
Honestly, it's not.
I mean, the sour is like righton the very, very end.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I mean, it's not that bad really.
It's not a strong, sour.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's surprising, but I don't get the dark chocolate.
The raspberry kind ofoverpowers the chocolate.
I think you get the raspberryfor sure, right?
Yes, the chocolate.
I'm guessing that's whatprobably mellows it out a little
bit, but it's not bad.
It's better than I thought itwas going to be.
Right, this is definitelybetter than the first one.
(06:43):
Yes, I would agree, I guess.
What do you think on the scoreon that one, jim?
So the Raspberry Chocolate DarkSour Ale, st Valentine's Day
Massacre.
The second one was even moresour than the first two.
I think I'm going to have togive it a solid 2.0.
For me it's just as sour.
Okay, I can't.
I thought it would get weakeras I drank it more, down to the
(07:06):
glut, but they actually thesourness came out more.
So it's a little.
I was.
I was hoping for more raspberrychocolate.
I'm gonna have to go to pointtwo, point oh, all right, what
are you thinking?
Um, I don't mind it, I'm gonnatake another taste here.
I'm gonna go a.
I'll go like a 2.4.
Oh, I mean, it's almost averagefor me, I know, for you it's
(07:28):
not terrible by any means, but Imean we've had better.
Don't get me wrong.
It didn't reach Barn Town.
I thought it would.
It was like the first sip wasgood and then Barn Town was
really, really good.
This is for, like your othersour beer place.
This is not a bad sour for adifferent place, right, but it's
(07:52):
not Barntown level.
So, yes, all right, our guestAnonymous.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I actually think it's a nice blend of flavors.
The raspberry does come onstrong, but if you're a
raspberry lover, then you'regoing to like this one.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So what would you give it for a score?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Probably a 2.6.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So you like the first one better.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, no.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, you just said 2.8.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well then, I'm going higher with this.
It's 2.9.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
2.9?
.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I like it All right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, you've got to make sure you get your scores
right.
The listeners are going to getconfused.
If you see you like the firstone, we get this worst score.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
This is actually.
This is a.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's a completely different type of drink than the
first one To me it's a complete.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I don't know, from a stout to a sour.
Yeah, it's completely different.
Yeah, you can finish my part.
It's that difference I loveraspberries, so that's probably
why the raspberries?
But?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
the raspberries are mellow.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes On the right, it could be the dark chocolate or
the dark sour.
I don't know which one it is.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Either one.
At the end you have theraspberries and at the end you
taste the chocolate.
My tongue gets it.
I have the berries.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yes, I'll pass, not my favorite, all right.
All right, what do we gotcoming up?
So the next one we have is catsLike meow Yep, and this is
their Imperial Pilsner.
All right, 8.5 percent abv and13 ibus.
(09:30):
So do you know offhand I'mputting you in a spot how many
imperial pilsners have we tried?
Not very many, I mean.
It's not many.
I mean like I was thinking likeunder five, I would think I'm
sure.
I'm sure I mean we had manyPilsners, right.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Pilsners are not.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Pilsners all day long , but Imperial.
We haven't had that many, sothis should be twice as strong,
it should be, Like two MillerLights in one, can you would
think.
You would think it's definitelydarker than your normal
(10:07):
Pilsilsner.
You know, I mean darker, butstill you can see through it,
right, right.
So this is a double millerlight.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, flavor isn't bad, so there is flavor, there's
flavor to it and it's thickerthan I thought it was going to
be.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
you know what I mean.
Um, but I don't know what theflavors are coming through.
Right, right, it doesn't tastelike your mass-produced big-box
beers, but it does have flavorto it.
I mean it's not, I mean for aPilsner Right and, like I said,
for 8.5%, it drinks smooth.
You know, I mean that one'sactually, I think I like that
(10:39):
one, the best for me so far,just because I mean so.
I know it's going to be apilsner, so I know there's not
going to be flavor, but there'ssomething that's a little bit.
It puts it a step above it.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yep, I agree, I agree .
I wish I knew what that it'sgot an intangible being, that
imperial Right In a good way.
In a good way.
That's what are you thinking ona score?
Well, let me have one more sip.
All right, I'll take another sipBecause, like I said, we are
doing taster glasses.
So what are you?
8.5%, so much that I'm going togo with 3.1.
Wow, I like this one.
(11:15):
I like the flavor.
I think I could drink a couplebottles of this on a hot date.
Okay, oh, we.
A couple bottles of this on ahot date.
Okay, oh, we almost had acatastrophe.
We almost had a catastrophe andshe doesn't even realize it.
Okay, so you're going to 3-1.
I'll go 3-1.
Okay, what are you thinking?
I'm thinking I'm going to golike a 2.8.
(11:37):
All right, it's not bad.
I mean, for a pilsner it'spretty good, you know.
It definitely has more flavor,I think, than your box store
type Pilsners.
But like I said, personally Iguess I would rather drink
either one of the first two thesecond one for sure over this
one.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But it's not bad.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I know my score was still higher than this one,
but I do still think that socould you drink this on a hot
day after you get done mowing,yeah, you could.
If you had this on ice coldsitting in the shade.
This would be the.
I think I would reach for thisbeer.
Yeah, you could drink this one,Even though it's 8.5%.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
it's not a lawn mower beer by any means but it's
still you could drink it Afteryou get done lawn mowing.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, any means, but it's still After you get done
one more.
Yeah, you can drink it, Ourguest.
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I think this is my favorite so far.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh, even better than the rest.
The rest, Barry.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yes, this has a nicer blend.
It's not getting ending.
It's just a nice mix of flavors.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So could you drink a whole glass of this?
Oh, yes, definitely.
So, what would you give for ascore?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Probably a 3.3.
I like it a lot.
Wow, I like it a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
You didn't say it right.
I like it a lot, is that how?
Yeah, a lot, a lot.
Oh, you're getting it.
So you can finish that one.
Yeah, I thought that one wasvery good, yeah, so you can
finish that one.
Yeah, I thought that one wasvery good, yeah, I mean it has
good flavor to it.
It's not your normal Pilsnerflavor you don't get many like
(13:10):
just the basic, ale lagerPilsner flavor.
This one has something.
Yep I agree with you.
I don't know exactly what, butit has flavor.
Yep, I agree with you.
All right, so we're down threeout of five on the first.
Yep, I agree with you.
All right, so we're down threeout of five on the first Yep.
So we got two left in the firstflight, all right.
So what do we got next?
So the next one.
We'll grab the darker coloredone, which is kind of like an
(13:33):
amber.
Look, all right, this is theBoss.
Doppelbach.
Ale Is it this Boss, or is itthis Boss?
It's not the Boss.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh, it is the Boss it .
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's not the boss, oh , it is the boss.
It's not the boss, it's theboss.
Oh, can we call it BruceSpringsteen?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No, we can't call it Bruce Springsteen.
Oh okay, we don't want to getin trouble.
Ah okay, all right, this is8.3% ABV and 19 IBUs.
Oh, it smells like a Doppelbach.
So is this like a doppelbach?
So is this like a doppelgangerkind of?
So it like mimics another one,right?
Oh, that's got kind of athicker flavor to it.
I would say we've definitelyhad some other doppelbachs that
(14:13):
are better.
Yeah, there's something.
I mean, it's got really a darktaste to it, almost.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't know how you want to classify it, but so you
know and it weird, you know,armchair quarterbacking it
without knowing so.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Right.
What did they do then to thedoppel to make it 8.3 yeah, I
don't know, because that's highfor a doppel right.
So they did something you know,and I wonder if that affected
the flavor it could have,because, like I said it, it
definitely.
Most of your doppelbox are notthat high of abv, no, but, and
this one is, but it's definitelygot a stronger flavor to it.
(14:47):
I'm still, the finish is stillit's not cleared by mouth yet.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I mean it's like hanging on, I mean, and what's
weird?
It's not like totally bad Right, it's not horrendous, but it's
like it's there.
I mean, you know so a lot ofbeers.
You want to be able to take thedrink after the finish.
Your mouth is clean.
But this one is like ooh,there's stuff there.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
There's something hanging.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
That's the only way to say it is.
There's stuff there.
It's like got my tongue andit's not going to let go.
I agree, dude.
I agree, I'm not sold on thisone.
Yeah, this one's a little.
I mean, you know me, I likeDoppelbox, I like Box, all that
stuff.
This one is definitely astronger flavor to it and kudos
for them, you know, bumping upthe ABV.
Oh yeah, yes, kudos, but theflavor is just a little.
(15:38):
But boy, it's a strong.
It's not an easy uh drink,right?
I agree with you?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
what?
Uh?
Oh, you're gonna put me in thecorner, put you in the corner.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
What do you think on the score?
I think I'm gonna have to golike a 2.2.
I think I'm gonna have to lowerit down.
Yeah, it's, it's not bad, it'sjust it.
It takes some getting used to.
It's right, I agree.
Yeah, the finish.
I my mouth is drying out likeit's hoppy.
I mean it's not the hop, butthere's something drying my
mouth out, right, and it's stillthere lingering.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, and I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And I really like Doppelbox, you know I do I like?
Doppelbox.
I like Box, but boy, this one,the flavor is really strong, and
again it's 8.3%, so it'sdefinitely higher than normal
Yep, but boy, that flavor reallyhits you in the mouth.
Oh, and I'm going to go.
I agree, I'm going to go like a2.2 as well, are you?
Yeah, it's just really strong Alittle bit too much.
(16:38):
Yes, there you go.
I agree 100%.
That's the best way to say it.
It is.
I agree 100%.
That's the best way to say it.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I think they had a good plan, but it didn't really
kind of come off it didn'tmaterialize.
Guest.
I agree, this is my leastfavorite of all of them.
So far.
At the end it stays in yourmouth and it's not one of that
people.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It hangs on too long and it's like I'm probably going
to get a better one.
2.0?
Yeah, all right, there too longand it's like I'm probably
gonna get about 2.0.
All right, there is, there areno wrong answers no, it's still
in my mouth.
Yeah it dries it out.
Yes, almost like super hoppy,but but it's not a hop but it's
not because I I mean, no, it'snot, it's something different.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It just doesn't get out of your mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
All right, so now all .
So our last, 100% agree.
Our last beer on the firstflight.
All right, is there RocketCaramel Cinnamon.
Wait wait, wait, that's an A.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Rocket, I'm sorry, I thought you said Rocket, it's
Rocket.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Caramel, cinnamon.
I just caught that too.
It's a sweet, a sweet hardapple cider with caramel and
cinnamon, cinnamon, cinnamon,cinnamon, cinnamon, cinnamon,
and it's a 6% ABV, wow, and itdefinitely looks like it's an
apple cider.
So it's hard apple cider.
Oh boy, wait till you smellthis one.
(17:57):
You farted.
No, no, oh, no, no.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I thought you were warning me.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
This one smells like caramel apple, all right, well,
just let me know if you do,though this one's about the
clearest one we got.
Yeah, I can see my fingers allthe way through.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I can see.
Take a whiff on that one.
Oh, there's caramel.
There's caramel in that one,wow, yeah, there's caramel apple
in that for sure.
Wow, but that's not a beer, isit?
It's a cider.
So is that technically a beer?
Or, yeah, it's technically abeer?
Oh, again, I guess is likegoing what?
(18:33):
Well, pass that one around tosee what.
Yeah, well, everybody else, trythat one, that's a caramel.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It tastes like a beer car are sent.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's a racket.
Caramel, cinnamon, that's 6%.
Yep, pass it down that way.
So what do you think of thatone, jim, I mean?
So I struggle.
I think we went through this,since it's a hard cider, is it
technically a beer?
I know we talked that it is abeer.
Right, it's a beer.
(19:02):
Yeah, so it's.
I mean it's because it doesn'thave a lot of the qualities of a
beer.
Right, that's, that's right.
You know, that's where Istruggle.
So I'm trying to compare thishard cider against some of our
good beers.
But I mean, there's nothing,nothing bad, nothing wrong,
nothing horrendous.
I mean right, could I drink asix pack of it?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
no, I mean I couldn't , because I get heartburn.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I think so on a hot day, could I?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
get an ice cold one.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh yeah, An ice cold one.
Yeah, you could For sure.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You know, that's always the kicker with cider is
like, is it beer or not?
Right, and technically, yes, itis, but you know, that's just
kind of the hard part of it.
You know, yes, and we're tryingto be like, I think, give the
cider the benefit, we're nottrying to knock it because it's
not 100% a beer, correct?
(19:48):
So do you want me to go?
I'll go.
I'm going to go with two points.
I've got to double check so youdon't get mad.
Oh, I had what I was going togo with.
I'll go with two and a half.
Right in the average, right inthe middle.
It's not bad, I do think if youdrink more than one, you get
heartburn?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, I get heartburn , yeah, and it's 26%.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's not bad.
It definitely has that caramelflavor.
Yes, you know, I get thecaramel.
I kind of get cinnamon, I getapple and caramel is what I get.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Right, oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So yeah, all right, I'm going to actually go a 2.3.
Okay, I'm not a big fan, it's,it's okay, it's just, uh, I
don't know it, somehow it justdoesn't mix right for me as a
beer, right, it almost has, italmost has a french toast smell
to it.
Yeah, you know, I mean it'skind of that, that smell and
(20:42):
like, well, huh, it is for me.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I think it smells better than it tastes sure, yeah
, you know and it's not one thatI don't think I could drink a
whole day, not even on a hot day.
No, I don't enjoy that.
I didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So what do?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
you think 1.9.
I really didn't like it, oh wow.
She's dropping the hammer Evenafter mowing the lawn with the
bush mower, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Even on a hot day.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I don't think so.
I think you're going to share.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
All right well.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
And I love apples and I love apple cider and I love
that and I just didn't get theblend.
All right, it didn't cometogether for me I understand.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Good answer, all right, perfect.
So I understand.
Good answer, all right, perfect.
So now we're going to move onto our second.
Oh, there we go, flight.
This one's going to.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
This one.
There's a few more.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
That could be interesting, yeah, so.
So can we have the goose withthe salad?
You want to do that one first?
Yeah, we can.
So this is their cartel.
And this is a goose with salsa.
Oh, and this is a ghost withsalsa.
Oh, it's not the goose withsalad.
It's not the goose with salad,it's a ghost with salsa.
It looked like that.
(21:53):
Four and a half percent andnine IBUs.
So when I ordered the flight,the gentleman at the bar said
this is something that you'venever had before.
I've never had goose with salad.
So I'm not sure if that meansit's going to be really bad or
what.
So we're going to find out.
So what is a goose?
A goose is a style of beer.
(22:15):
It's not a goose.
It's not a goose, it's a ghost.
There's only one out.
But I don't know what salsa is.
I've never had a beer withsalsa, and that's not a salad.
There's not a fruit salad inthere.
I'm trying to concentrate onthe smell here.
Oh, I might have parted.
Don't concentrate too hard.
There's salsa in there, that isI can safely say, I've never
tasted a beer like that onebefore.
You may have just intimidatedme to have some.
(22:37):
Wow, interesting, that isinteresting.
Give her a whirl, are you sure?
Oh yeah, give her a whirl.
Definitely salty.
Oh my gosh, it tastes likesalsa, like liquid salsa.
It is liquid salsa.
(22:58):
Wow, that is definitelydifferent.
Where's my chip?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
wow, I need a chip with that, one that is liquid
salsa.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Very salty, very salty flavor.
The finish is very.
The finish is very salty.
Very salty flavor.
The finish is very.
The fish is very salty verysalty we had a oh good God.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
no, oh good God.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Let me give it to Mike's dad.
That is definitely unique.
It tastes like liquid salsa,that is, it is like liquid salsa
and it's only 4.5% ABV.
All right, that is definitelyunique.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, you're going first on this one buddy he did
not lie.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
He said it's like nothing you've ever tasted
before, and I agree 100%.
We've never had that I've nevertasted a beer like that before.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Does that mean, it's good?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It doesn't necessarily mean it's good.
I'm already getting heartburn.
Yeah, I'm going to go, I'mburping it.
So do we have to rate it basedon the beers we had on the first
page or no, or is this a brandnew?
Okay, I'm going to go with 2.0because it's definitely,
definitely different.
But it's like whew, I don'tnecessarily know if I could
(24:29):
drink a can of that.
You couldn't.
I'm not sure.
It's four point five.
Four point five, nine I'd use.
Yeah, there's no.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
There's no hoppy in this no, no, no, there's no hops
it's just that it's like woof.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Oh, it's interesting, you went down to it too.
Huh, when I have though Irarely see you go down that low.
You know that, I know, but thisone was.
It was kind of wow, you knowI'm thinking you're not even
going to go up a two, are you?
I'm going to go 1.5.
Yeah, see it, definitely it'sstill there.
(25:05):
I can't get it out.
Like I said, it tastes like aliquid salsa.
I might need some sandpaper.
All right, our special guest.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Well, when I can tomatoes, it's like what's left
in the bottle of the can.
I didn't enjoy it.
It wasn't beer, it wasn't asalsa, it wasn't anything.
It was that good?
Oh no, it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh, it wasn't a beer.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
It wasn't a salsa ride, it wasn't anything.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
It was that good, oh, no, it wasn't oh.
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, if you want to pour it over some chips, maybe
it'd be good, but to drink, no,it could be.
I'm a pretty mean critic, Ithink yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I would give it like a 1.
0?
, 1.0.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Wow.
Wow, like I said, I think Iwould get heartburn out of that
deal If I drank a whole can ofit.
It would be like.
Yeah, you could surprisesomebody if you did that.
Totally that was different thananything I've ever tasted
before.
So crazy.
I was like points fororiginality.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yes, yes I mean that was a good effort though.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yes, but they may have just poured out some salsa.
Yeah, screened it, yeah allright.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
What are we on the?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
next one we have is their mountain goat.
Mountain goat and this is theirbelgian triple.
All right, 10.3 abv and 32 ibus.
All right, so we're stepping itup a notch.
We're stepping her up quite abit.
A Belgian Tripel, so it shouldbe it should have that Belgian
(26:33):
flavor to it, so it should tastesimilar to the last one then,
right.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
How do you clear that up?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
That definitely tastes like a Belgian Tripel.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Similar to the last one.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
No, that didn't taste like salsa at all.
There's no salsa in that one.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
How do you clear from the one before though?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But for a Belgian triple that's not bad.
That is definitely not thesalsa.
No, that's not the salsa.
But there's definitely Belgianyeast in there.
Oh, yeah, there's Belgian yeastfor sure in there.
You know, and not to knock thisone, but the cherry quad that
we had at Boulevard, oh, thatwas extremely, that was really
good, very good.
(27:10):
Yeah, this is not.
This definitely has thatthicker mouthfeel to it.
Yeah, this is not, as it hasthat thicker mouthfeel to it and
it's like it definitely hasthat Belgian yeast flavor.
You can tell it's Belgian, ohyeah for sure I mean, I can
(27:33):
handle this one though.
Yeah, oh yeah, compared to theIf you want this or the salsa,
I'll take this one all day long.
Because that salsa one was justlike oof, oof, oof.
I'm surprised, you know, Idon't see your score down that
low, I know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I know, I'm surprised you know I don't see your score
down that low.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I know, I know that one caught me off guard.
This might be my.
I might be in unchartedterritory with you.
2.0.
So on the triple, on the triple, I'm going to go.
I don't mind that one as bad.
I'm going to do like a 2.8.
Oh, wow, yeah, I don't mind it.
I could drink this one or thesalsa one.
I don't know if I could drinkthat one.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
to be honest, with you, you couldn't drink the
whole can.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I couldn't drink a can of it.
It was too freaky-beaky for me.
I think it had a little slighttouch of Dutch.
It had something in there thatwas not very good.
Wow, and you know me, I am nota Belgian, right?
Yep, that's why I was so takenback by the cherry from
(28:33):
Boulevard, right, because thatwas good.
Yep, this one, that's good forme.
I'm going to say a 2.5.
Okay, it's got that Belgian,just like it's got that Belgian
yeast flavor, if you're not usedto it, where the quad at
Boulevard didn't really havethat.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
It kicks you in the knee Right If you're not used to
it.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, I agree, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
And I enjoy Belgian gear.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Oh, so what do you think?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I enjoy Belgian gear.
I would give it like a 2.9 atleast.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Wow.
What did she say?
2.9, at least wow.
What did she say 2.9?
Oh, dang see, how did you see?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
wow it gets in your mouth, it's in there, you drink
it and it just wait wait, wait,wait.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Say that again.
What did I do?
Say that louder, it gets inyour mouth.
That's a good thing right.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, it is a good thing.
I enjoy Belgian beer.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I'm not a Belgian guy .
Speaker 3 (29:41):
You know, you've got to remember, I lived in Germany
before and after, so you know Ilike that little bit of
strongness.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Did you try that Belgian quad with the cherry at
the last that?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
was Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's liquid salsa.
The cherry actually overtookthe Belgian yeast part.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Was it good?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Was the cherry good?
The cherry was good.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
We're at now.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
We are on to our 2.9.
Our lone barrel-aged beer here.
Okay, this is their barrel-agedRiverside Park.
All right, imperial Stoutwhiskey, barrel-aged we don't
know what kind of whiskey.
Whiskey 10% ABV, 40 IBUs.
All right, so still not way outthere, right, not to get scared
(30:32):
.
Right, it should be decent.
Yeah, I can't.
Just from the aroma I can'ttell what kind of it, definitely
does have.
It has kind of a whiskey flavorto it.
I can smell something.
It's smooth.
It does definitely have more ofa whiskey, a little bit of a
whiskey burn to it.
I can smell something.
It's smooth.
It does definitely have more ofa whiskey, a little bit of a
whiskey burn to it more so thanBoulevard did Riverside Park,
(30:55):
would you agree?
Yes, I think it has a littlebit more of a burn to it than
what the other ones Boulevarddid, definitely it's stronger.
Oh yeah, it's got that littlebit more of a burn to it.
Yeah, this is not just theregular Imperial Stout.
So what do you like?
I said I think I'm reallygetting the strong.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I'm getting more of the bourbon.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yes, the whiskey flavor Right Than I am any other
, even the Stout part, Becauseit says barrel aged or whiskey
barrel aged Okay so.
Like we talked about before,right, right.
So they have a base, right.
They're imperial stuff, right.
We haven't tried that.
No, we don't know what that isat all.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
We don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
But then they age it in a whiskey barrel.
So now we're trying to decipherwhat these are.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So I don't know we're Right, these are.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I don't know I wish I knew what this one was.
Yes, because that or what thewhiskey?
What whiskey they use?
You know what I mean?
Because I wish I knew what thewhiskey that they used was.
I'm sorry we're laughing atPeople are trying the salsa beer
yet and it's not going oververy well.
So this is their whiskey barrelage Right.
(32:10):
So we talk about you.
You know there are somebreweries right that have a
really good stout, yes, who thenmake it imperial stout, who
have a good.
They have a good base, yeah.
And then when they put it inthese bourbon barrels or whiskey
barrels or, right, any kind ofbarrel, right, they have it.
They comes out good becausecorrect.
So for me I'm strugglingbecause I don't taste the good
(32:32):
base, I agree, you know I tastemore of.
So did they age it?
They aged the, I don't know.
They see there's a lot of theplate, the bourbon, the
whiskey's coming through, forthe hard part is we're coming
off of going to boulevard.
They know what they're doing,yes.
I don't know if this is thegoat's first attempt at a barrel
(32:53):
age.
I don't know 100%.
You know what I mean.
So we really don't know wherein the progression they're at.
100%, you and I can tell that,right, because we're not experts
, correct, correct, but we'reprobably.
We've drank enough to know ifsomething's good or not.
(33:14):
We're probably pretty close.
So for us, for me, I think Iwould have to say this is not as
good as I was hoping.
Right, it's not bad, but Idon't know if I can give it a
good, solid score.
No, no For a barrel-aged beerlike.
I said I wish we knew if thiswas their first attempt at it or
not.
Yes, If it was their firstattempt, I probably would give
(33:36):
it a little more leniency, Yep.
But we don't know that, so I'mgoing to just rate it like I
normally would.
I'm going to go like a 2.4, Iguess.
I mean, I think it's a littlebit below average, you know, and
I know that it's 10%, but it'sjust kind of lacking you know,
and whatever that flavor is.
(33:58):
It's not something that I couldsit there and say, oh, you need
to try this, right, and you know, in good conscience, to say
you've got to try it becauseit's really just kind of it's
there and here's.
I don't know if I can evenoffer a recommendation that they
would get through this, but youknow, you're trying a new beer
(34:18):
and you have all these othervariants and you might I can't
say you are, but you might bescaring away some novice beer
drinkers I agree 100 with you,you know, because in this place
your first, somebody that hasn'thad a barrel age beer before.
This is not one I recommendbecause it does have that
stronger right.
(34:39):
And here we are at a place with, I mean, there's a lot of
younger people hanging out andthis might be their first try
and I'll be like well, I'm nevergonna try a barrel age's beer
again.
Right.
So I'm right with you.
I was going to go with 2.4.
I think it is just a little bitbelow average.
Okay, I agree 100%, and ourguests.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
My favorite part of that was the finish.
It's done.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, vanilla came out for me, vanilla came out of
that.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It For me vanilla came out of that.
It wasn't the beginning of.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Did she say vanilla?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Vanilla, I didn't get vanilla.
Ice ice baby, I didn't getvanilla.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
She must be hammered drunk.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
At the end of it it was vanilla.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Which one.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I mean, I'm not saying it was bad, but the end
of it was vanilla.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Oh, that was the Crass, Crass yeah, isn't that
For me, the end was vanilla.
That was a very strong taste ofvanilla at the end of it.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I did not catch that, but I really didn't taste it.
But so what are you thinking onthe score?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
It was a strong flavor to begin with, and then
also just like that of meld, andit was vanilla.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Right, that's kind of very.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Right, yeah, right.
So what are you thinking?
2.9.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, she's hammered drunk.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Wow, Wait, wait wait.
You just gave them all and goto 2.9.
You can't have the same scores.
Oh she yeah she can.
It's because you changed therules.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
She can have it.
She can have the same score, solet me ask you this yeah know
then, if you like one more thanthe other.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
If you give them the same score, maybe I liked them
equally, so then how would?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
the listener know that you should, because I have
the same score there and therebut you have a belgian triple
but for a different reason.
My reasons were different fromthat one to that one.
You're not gonna win.
You can punch him if you wantto.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Well, so you do this we don't do it for us, we do it
for the, the listeners.
So I'm going to put you on thespot which one is better, the
triple or the stout?
Which?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
one's the triple.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I'm sorry, I'm still trying to finish.
I'm still trying to finish thissalsa beer and it's just like
ugh.
I'm going to put you on thespot, just so that the listeners
know you have one that's betterthan the other.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I would say the mountain goat is better.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Okay, so it's not going to hurt.
But then the listeners know,hey, if they come in here.
They don't know who your secretperson is.
Right, exactly All right.
So, mike, what do we got now?
I'm sorry, I'm trying to getrid of that salsa taste up in my
mouth.
The next one we have is theChesterfield Club Barbara Ann.
(37:11):
Barbara Ann, this is astrawberry chocolate blonde ale.
Okay, 4.9% ABV and 16 IBUs.
This kind of has me intrigued.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
It actually does this , has these good flavors.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So, kat, we have a chocolate strawberry blonde ale.
I'm kind of looking forward tothis one, low ABV and low ABU.
Oh, it smells chocolatey.
It smells color-wise, I mean itlooks like you're a blonde ale,
a normal blonde ale.
It looks like a blonde ale.
Aroma-wise, it smellschocolatey.
(37:48):
That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That is actually not too bad.
The chocolate kind of keeps thestrawberry in check.
It's not over the top of eitherone.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
That's not bad.
It's not bad.
Strawberry blonde, strawberry,chocolate blonde, ale that's
different.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's actually not bad .
Speaker 2 (38:05):
That one's that's not .
I don't mind that one.
I mean for the other flavors Iwas.
I mean that's actually prettygood.
Yeah, I mean for the otherflavors I was.
I mean that's actually prettygood.
Yeah, for a blonde ale whichnormally doesn't have much
flavor, realistically to have astrawberry chocolate, right, it
gives it just enough to whereyou can taste it, right, you
(38:27):
know it's not bad.
I'm actually liking it a littlebit.
Yeah, I hate to say it, it'skind of not bad.
Yeah, the strawberry andchocolate kind of balance each
other out and I don't mind it,honestly.
I think I could actually drink acan of it.
I could probably drink a can ofit after mowing the lawn and
(38:49):
it's hot out.
It's a cold day, it's a coldbeer.
That's not bad.
That one's not bad.
That one's it's not bad.
Yeah, I mean I think that theflavors are not over the top.
No, I mean they're a little bitmuted.
So I mean, right like I don't.
And somehow they got thechocolate and the strawberry.
(39:09):
They almost counteract eachother yeah, you know, yeah, and
it.
it's yeah, and it doesn't havelike that.
Like normally you get likealmost a sour flavor to it.
It doesn't have that you know,or the strawberries are too
bitter.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, because.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I mean, when you smell it, you definitely get
yeah, I get the strawberry, butit's not that over-the-top, you
know, because we've had some too.
Over-the-top strawberries.
Oh yeah For sure.
So I guess I'll go first.
I'm like a mediocre fan, Ithink.
Okay, I'll probably go like a2.7.
Okay, my rationale is theflavors are not very distinct.
(39:45):
It's not bad, but I don't tastea lot of strawberry, I don't
taste a lot of chocolate.
I don't know if they counteracteach other, but they make a
good flavor, but not anover-the-top flavor.
So I was kind of looking for alittle bit more flavor.
Okay, yep, I understand, formyself, boy, I'm going to go
(40:06):
like a.
I'm going to do a 2.7 as well.
Okay, I think, honestly, thestrawberry and chocolate flavors
I thought worked very welltogether, but there wasn't
enough there to raise it up tolike a 3.
Right, you know what I mean.
It's good, but it needed alittle bit more.
(40:30):
That's what I thought, you know.
So I could drink one.
Right, you know, on a hot dayyou could drink it, but I think
that it was just kind of it hada little bit more and it would
have been even better.
Yes, yep, I agree.
Our guest.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
To me it was a better mix with the chocolate and the
strawberries Okay, and I wouldnot drink it as a beer like when
it was hot out, okay, I woulddrink it as a dessert beer.
Okay, it's because thoseflavors came out from the
chocolate and strawberries.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
All right, so what would you give it as a?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
A 3.1.
3.1.
I enjoyed it.
3.1.
I enjoyed it.
She is hammered girl.
Wow, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
She is hammered girl.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Wow, I would not drink it as a beer.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I would drink it as a dessert beer.
As a good beer as a dessertbeer or a dessert beer.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Okay, she's hammered girl.
That's hammered like a dance onthe table.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
All right, so we're done with our tenth.
Here's our tenth and final beerhere at the Goat, and this is
Eastwood coming around.
This is Clint oh, not Eastwoodthe Clint the Crusher.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know, I think you knowanother Clint.
Yep, I sure do so, do you?
(41:50):
Do you call him the Crusher?
No, no, that's the name of thisbeer.
Is that the nickname you had?
Nope, back across the river.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Maybe so you can ask your dad.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
This is a smoked porter with dark cherry.
5.4% ABV, 30 IBUs.
We got the Clint.
Jim finally admits he's got theClint that has a definite
smoked flavor to it.
You're going to get that smoked,oh yeah.
Oh, I don't.
This is a smoked porter withdark cherry, but I don't taste
(42:25):
the dark, the cherry at all.
I get smoke, heavy smoke, heavysmoke flavor.
Wow, a heavy smoke flavor, wow.
And again, we've tried a lot ofsmoked beers, but every time
it's like taking a bite of aburnt log.
This has a very smoky flavor toit.
(42:46):
This is smoky, very smoky.
My mouth is drying out like I.
It's smoky, it's smoky, it'ssmoky Boy.
I don't know about that one.
I don't taste any cherry at all.
No, I don't get that at all,especially dark cherry.
Yeah, when that's what it callsis a smoky porter with dark
(43:10):
cherry, I'm expecting to get thedark cherry flavor.
I mean, the color of the beeris a little bit red, right, but
it is.
I don't get any cherry flavorwhatsoever it is so.
I just I get smokiness andthat's it.
It tastes like I reached into afire and grabbed out a stick
(43:32):
and stuck it in my mouth and youwent.
Oh, that's good, you know, Idon't know.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that one.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
You want to throw your score out right now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
I'm going to go a 2.
Well, let's see, you got a 2, a2.7.
What was that one?
Oh, that's on the run.
I'm got a 2, a 2.7.
What was that one?
Oh, that's on Iran.
I'm going to go like a 2.3.
Oh, it's very it's smoky to me.
I don't get any of the cherryflavor whatsoever, so I'm going
(44:06):
to go, yeah, 2.3.
So would you recommend this tothe novice beer drinker?
I don't think so, because it'sa lot of novice if they have
never tasted especially a smokybeer before.
This is pretty smoky, yes, andI think a smoked flavor can turn
people off real quick.
So that's what I think.
So I'm going to have to golower than you, buddy.
(44:29):
I got to go 1.9.
I am not a big smoke guy.
I can't.
My mouth is still drying out.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
It's very smoky I can't, I can't do it.
The smoke completely overtookthat beer.
You smelt it, you tasted it younever tasted, taste it any more
yeah no, no, I'm going to golower than you.
I'll $1.8.
$1.8?
Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, there we go All right.
So we're at the goat brewing.
Yep, we're at goat brewing.
Overall, I mean it was a neatplace.
I mean I like the brewery theyhave.
I give them credit, for theytry all sorts of different
things.
Yep, and they got a lot of tabs, a lot of taps, a lot of
(45:18):
different mixed drinks too.
Yes, yeah, so you can get amixed drink and food, so you got
a lot.
You can come in here and theygot the.
There's a karaoke going, so Ithink it's worth the stop.
Yeah, I mean some of the beersI think they have to do some
tweaking on.
Yeah, I mean some of the beersI think they have to do some
tweaking on to get them good.
But there was beers, I think,that are just not quite there,
(45:39):
but they're very close to beingthere.
Yes, and there's other onesthat are kind of like need a
little bit more work.
Yes, but they're close.
Yes, and, like I said, I'venever been here before, so this
is my 161st brewery I've been to.
All right, yeah, they did agood job.
It's a nice place.
It's almost like a baratmosphere.
(46:01):
Well, they're breaking intokaraoke now, so we probably
should cut them down.
All right, yeah.
So the Goat in Lee's Summit,missouri.
It's a cool place.
Yes, like I said, they have allsorts of different beers,
different food, all that.
It's really a cool environment.
(46:24):
Yes, and I'm glad we came hereand, like I said, some of the
beers are extremely close tobeing super good.
They're close, they're veryclose.
So, yes, like I said, if youget a chance, stop here, stop
here.
Yes, I think you'll enjoy it.
Same thing.
Awesome.
Let's get a beer and let's havesome food.
Yeah, we're going to get somefood and some beer and, ladies
(46:46):
and gentlemen, thank you forlistening and, like we always
say, I hope your campfire isalways warm and your beers are
always cold, see you?
Speaker 1 (46:52):
See ya.
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If you have a question, acomment or a beer you'd like us
to review, please feel free tosend us a message at
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(47:14):
your beer is cold.
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