August 15, 2025 • 51 mins
What if we told you that craft beer diversity doesn't require high alcohol content? In this enlightening tasting session, Mike and Jim explore six completely different beer styles all under 6% ABV, proving that lower-alcohol options can still deliver exceptional flavor and craftsmanship.
The journey begins with Leinenkugel's Northwoods Amber (4.9%), a beer with an interesting comeback story, before moving to the true star of the show: Urban Growler's Vanilla Latte Blonde Ale. This remarkable creation from Minnesota's first women-owned microbrewery perfectly balances vanilla, coffee, and lactose for a uniquely satisfying experience that had both hosts reaching for a perfect 3.0 rating – high praise indeed!
As the tasting continues through Urban Growler's D-Lovely Porter, Bent Paddle's Munchen Pretzels Marzon Party Lager, Prairie Artisan Ales' Albino Rhino white stout, and Crafted Meadery's barrel-aged Maple Pecan Pie mead, the hosts share valuable insights about each brewery's approach while peppering the conversation with fascinating beer trivia. Did you know Iceland prohibited all alcoholic beverages for 74 years? Or that the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock because they ran out of beer?
Whether you're new to craft beer or a seasoned enthusiast looking for more sessionable options, this episode demonstrates that lower ABV doesn't mean compromising on flavor or variety. These accessible beers span the spectrum from light and refreshing to rich and complex, making them perfect introductions to craft styles that might otherwise intimidate newcomers.
Ready to explore the lighter side of craft beer? Grab a cold one, pull up a chair, and join Mike and Jim on this flavorful journey through the world of low-ABV brewing excellence.
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Grab a beer and pull up a chair.
Welcome to the Northwoods BeerGuy Podcast.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, andwelcome back to the Northwoods
Beer Guy Podcast.
This is Mike, the NorthwoodsBeer Guy, and, as always, I am
joined by Jim.
Hey, buddy, how are you doing?
Doing good, how about yourself?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Just another day in paradise living the dream.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
There you go.
We are still in the summer,somewhat summer beer mode.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I guess.
Yes, it still feels like summeroutside.
There's a lot of humidity outthere.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It was humid and hot and icky.
You got sweat going places, youdon't want to tell people about
that's right Not to you know.
Polite company anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm ready for some cool beer.
I think this is a perfect dayto be doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I think so.
I think so.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Looks like we've got a smorgasbord of beer.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We've got like a mixed bag of different styles,
and I guess part of the reasonwe kind of look at it this way
is just to show that there are alot of different styles that
are available in a lower ABV, oh, you know where.
It's not just Shandy's andPilsners and that kind of stuff,
all right.
So yeah, we've got one, two,three, four, five, six, six
(01:28):
different beers and probably sixdifferent styles, I'm guessing.
I think so.
I think I don't see anythingthat's close to the same.
Yeah, that's pretty wild.
Now it should be interesting,because it's probably going to
be kind of difficult to rankthese.
You know, like we did last week,right, but, we'll do our
scoring and then just kind ofgive our thoughts and such you
know, okay, all right.
But it should be interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it should be.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh boy, Now you got some trivia.
Oh, I do have some questions.
I was wondering why.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I only had Look at you, see them all.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I only had three pages and I wondered why you had
more.
So we, I need to have somethingto help my thinker.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Stimulate your brain cells?
Yeah, all right.
Well, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
The first one that we have, and I'm going to kind of
give you a little story on thisone.
This is Leinenkugel's,northwood's Amber, amber, yes,
and it's what did it say?
4.9%, yep.
Now, years ago, amber had, orAmber see oh, not Heather, but
Amber.
No, not Heather yeah, lion andKugel's head, they called it
(02:34):
just Northwoods.
You know it was Northwoods andit was an Amber and it was
almost a real dark Amber kind ofa reddish kind of color.
It had a little bit of strongerflavor.
It was really good.
And then they decided that, uh,they were going to stop making
it because they they, theirthought process was they the
most of that that they sold wasin northern wisconsin.
Okay, okay, I don't see whatthe problem is, but neither here
(02:56):
nor there they decided to quitmaking it and they expanded
their shandy production.
Oh, you know so they could getevery flavor of shandy you could
think of.
Well, I think I think they hadgot enough people that were kind
of saying hey, we wantNorthwoods back.
That it was probably, oh, I'mguessing, four or five years
later, they decided that, hey,we're coming back out with
Northwoods, and the only way youcould get it, though, was in
(03:17):
that pack that you had got.
Was it from Sam Adams?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh, the variety pack.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, they had a 12-pack like that sam adams
variety pack.
Yeah, they had a 12 pack likethat, and the only place you
could get northwoods was in thatwinter variety pack.
Oh so, and it's kind of funny.
So I looked all over town and Ifound I found it at walgreens
of all places.
Really it was the weirdestthing I've ever noticed.
But so I had bought it ran, itwas in their cooler so it was
cold.
So I was like great, ran home,put the rest of it in the in the
(03:44):
fridge, and then I took out oneof those northwoods and when I
cracked it open it was thelightest pilsner color you've
ever seen, really.
And I'm like this isn'tnorthwoods, you know.
And they, they had a beer thatwas called I think it was like
special or something specialedition or something like that,
and it looked kind of like that.
So when I tasted, it'm likethis is not Northwoods at all,
(04:04):
whoa, and so I was really bummed.
So then I went on like theirFacebook page just to look and,
boy, they were just gettingblasted by people on social
media that that is notNorthwoods.
So it went like that for aboutoh, I'm guessing, three, four
weeks and all of a sudden,lainey's makes a post and they
(04:26):
admitted.
Admitted, yes, that is not the,the northwoods.
Oh okay, remember, this was.
This was a different recipe,quote unquote.
So then they still, you know,they still offered that one.
It's still out there.
It's lineys, northwoods and butthen, probably the year after
that, I believe it was they cameout with this Northwoods Amber.
So this is closer to what theNorthwoods beer was, but it's
(04:48):
still not the same.
All right, but it's closer thanit was.
So anyway, that was thebackstory on this one.
I don't know if you haddiscovered any.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I followed up a little bit like a couple
sentences because we got the4.9% ABV right Yep, 18 IBUs and
it says originally introduced in1986, Northwood's Amber quickly
became a fan favorite incoolers across the country.
In fact Northwood's Amber haswon a gold medal in 1993 at the
Great American Beer Festival inthe premium lager category.
(05:20):
It's made with some of thefinest quality ingredients,
including some hops, barley oatsand water from right here in
Wisconsin.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And I will seriously tell you yes, that original one
was very good, okay, very good,and I can see how it won awards,
so we're going to hold you toit.
You're going to guarantee thisone right, I'm not guaranteeing
that it's that because, again tome, it's not the same as what
it was.
Oh you're not going toguarantee and it's got a twist
off, all right, twist off, wewill uh let's see what happens
(05:50):
here.
So you see, I mean it's, it'sstill, it's an amber, but it's
not.
The original one was really adarker amber, so it's it's
closer, it's red ish, yeah, Istill think that maybe it was
probably expensive to make, youknow, and after they got
purchased, right, let's cutcorners, you know, cheapen stuff
up at times, I don't know.
(06:11):
Just my opinion.
So, all right, yeah, this is,it's an amber, but it's kind of
a definitely a lighter amber.
It's almost like golden, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A little darker than a golden.
Yeah, yeah, smells like a lager.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No, it's like a lager .
Yes, you know definitely.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Good aroma.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yep Got kind of that sweetness in the aroma.
It's not bad.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I mean, this is it's one I could drink on a hot day,
you know where.
The original one was a littlelittle heavier, oh right, you
know, but it was still very good.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But I mean, this isn't bad, this is better than
what all.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
No, not really.
I mean it's been around for awhile and yeah.
I mean the flavor.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
it's decent so what do you want to start with your
first score of the day?
See this is where I always getmyself hurt or in trouble
because I say a score and thenit's like dang it.
I should have waited on thatone, especially since we don't
know what the other one's goingto taste like Right, right, If
we do that, it would be a loteasier to score them Exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
So, boy, I'm going to go a 2.4, so I can leave the
2.5 open.
I usually start there and thenI'm like dang it, I shouldn't
have put that there.
I do like it, but rememberingwhat the old one was, you know
what I mean.
It really to me is kind of alower version of that, but again
, I could drink it on a hot dayand this is coming out of the
cooler.
It'd be good.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, I'm going to see your 2.4 and I'm going to
raise it a little bit Onlybecause I don't have the back
history that you do Right.
So I'm going to say a 2.6.
I mean there's no bad.
The first, maybe second timesI've ever had it it still tastes
good, so I'm good with it.
I mean it's still.
(07:48):
It's not overly flavorful, soyou can't really go too far out
of our median score, but I thinkit's still okay.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, I mean, if you had this in a cooler and you had
their summer shandy in a cooler, I'd grab this a hundred times
before oh summer shandy in acooler.
I'd grab this a hundred timesbefore.
Oh, would you?
Oh, yeah, so yeah, it's it's.
I don't mind it, you know it's,it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So let's see here, should I give you some of the
harder questions or some of theeasier?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
questions.
Well, I'm sure they're allgoing to be difficult, so All
right, so let's start with theeasy one.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay, can you tell me the four states in the United
States that have the most craftbreweries?
It doesn't have to be insequence, just four states that
have the most.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That have the most located in the state.
Yep, okay, I would say, let mesee California's got to be on
there, because they're a largepopulation, Yep there's one.
Okay, so that's in there, let'ssee who would be.
Another one I'm going to say Iwould say Colorado.
(08:47):
Well, you're lucky.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's the second one .
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh dang, I got lucky on that one, you got two for two
Okay.
Nice, can you do the rest?
Let's see.
Let's see who else would be alot of birdies man, because I
know there's.
Well, I'll throw Wisconsin outthere.
No, no, close though.
Is it close Really?
Yeah, somewhere close, let'ssee.
I don't think I'm going tothrow North Carolina out there
(09:16):
because Asheville is loaded withthem, but I don't think they're
on there.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That was close too, Was it?
You're like almost through thetarget?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
What are the other two?
So we don't.
Washington starts with a W.
How was that?
Washington is.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, wisconsin or Washington is the start with a W
, and then Oregon.
I should have said M-N-O, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I know I should have said Oregon because that's where
.
Remember, I told you how mybrother went to go there for
work, right, and he was hittingall sorts of breweries and just
the area that he was at.
Interesting, so there was fourchances you got two right, so I
got zero points, so you got 50%of them, right?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So you get 50% of a point.
Oh, nice you got 0.5.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay, hey, that's better than I usually start.
All have them in order of howmany.
I did not Okay, but that's thetop four.
So California, washington,oregon, the entire West Coast,
yep and Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And Colorado.
Okay, interesting, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's a good factoid to know.
Yeah, so that was the easy one.
Well, that's good, so I was 50%right.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Right, some of the other ones.
They get a little morechallenging.
Baits, oh okay.
And some locations, and I evenI'm going to throw one into the
Queen Victoria Museum and ArtGallery.
Okay, that's on a ship, sothat's in one of the questions,
oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
All right, well, I'm going to need some more beer
before we get there.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So what do we got now ?
All right, Well, the next one,actually the next two cans that
we have.
I actually got from BK.
He gave me these before they'reout of St Paul, Minnesota.
All right, and the brewery isUrban Growler Brewing.
Okay.
And right on the can it sayswomen owned.
So women own this brewery.
So the first one we have istheir Vanilla Latte Blond Ale.
(10:59):
Okay, and this is a 16 ouncecan and it's 5.6% ABV, all right
.
So let's see.
All right on the can here I'mjust looking it says hey,
barista, make mine a largecreamy blonde ale, not too sweet
, and hold the hop.
Make sure you add vanilla and ashot of the local roast.
(11:20):
So I'm guessing it's coffee init and vanilla.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So I also found that it's 15 IBUs.
Okay, but it just said a smoothblonde ale infused with vanilla
and a special blend of lightespresso roasts from St Paul's
own True Stone Coffee Roasters.
Lactose adds a creamy, subtlesweetness.
The perfect brew.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
All right.
So it's got espresso in it, sowe're going to be wired.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
There we go.
So it says so.
The other factoid with thebrewers it says it's the first
woman-owned microbrewery inMinnesota.
Oh, wow.
So not only that it'swomen-owned, but it's the first
one.
Yeah, the first one.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So did it have.
I wonder if it said what yearthey started?
Yes, it did.
Oh, that's all great.
What's your guess?
I'm just going to say Close2005.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
July 2014.
2014.
Okay, yes, so that was, that's11 years.
The master brewers are DebLocke and the co-head, honcho,
jill Pavlik.
Hmm, all right, so let's seehow they did.
I don't smell much.
I say I don't get a whole lotof aroma.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
This is very light color, I mean well, it's just a
shade darker or lighter than theamber.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, and this is supposed to be a brown ale.
It says blonde ale on the can.
Oh, when I looked on the thing,it said brown.
So we could well, let's findout.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well, we'll find out.
Well, I get the.
You can definitely taste thecoffee and I get the vanilla.
Yeah, there's a little bit.
Wow, that's not bad, it's alittle bit surprising, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Honestly, I mean it's .
Maybe it's that lactose thatmaybe makes it a little sweeter.
It could be.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, that's Boy going to be.
You know what I mean, becausewe've had some vanilla beers
that you can't taste the vanilla.
You have coffee beers thateither you can't or it's way
over the top.
This is actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
What's weird for me is, like if you didn't tell me
that that was a beer and yousaid try this, I wouldn't even
think that it's a beer.
The way the flavor is, italmost is very.
The taste is so unique.
Yeah, wow, I kind of like it.
Yeah, I mean, if I was a blindtaste test trying to taste this,
I wouldn't think that this wasa beer at all.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It tastes so good.
Yeah, it does not have thatbeer taste to it.
That is wild.
Very, very good job.
Yeah, I'm impressed.
They did a good job on this andyou could drink a whole can of
it.
Yeah, it's not over the top,you know it is in a pint can,
but still, that's pretty good.
This is Urban Growler.
Urban Growler, hmm, wow, oof.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Dang.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, so what are you thinking on a score for this
Vanilla latte blonde?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Wow.
So my positives, everythingthat they said in the write-ups
on the can.
I can taste which does nothappen very often, right?
I mean we're not.
I don't think I'm not trying toknock any of the beers, I'm
just saying wow, that's good.
I mean, like you brought out,you know, vanilla is really a
difficult flavor to capture, butthey did a good job and it's
(14:14):
not over the top.
The coffee, I mean, is verysubtle in there.
It's not over the top.
The lactose makes it creamy.
I mean this is.
I would have to say that ifthis would be barrel aged, we
might have one for the beer ofthe year running.
Just my opinion.
I don't know, maybe I'm talkinga little bit too much, but I
(14:34):
like it.
I mean I'm going to go with 3.0.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I like it, nice.
I like the beer.
It's good.
I agree with you a hundredpercent, because I know exactly
what you're saying, cause we'vehad especially vanilla beers.
We've had so many vanilla beersthat you can't even taste it,
that it's like really, again, ifit's on the can, it should be
in the can, and this is thefirst word.
Is vanilla, yeah, and you cantaste it, and the espresso does
not overpower it.
No, you know, and I thinkthat's a good thing, I like the
(14:58):
flavor.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I mean even some of our friends that don't like
coffee and cigarettes.
They probably could.
I think they wouldn't even knowthat there was coffee Right If
we didn't tell them.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I think they'd be pleasantly surprised.
I agree with you.
I definitely agree with you.
And barrel aging it.
That would be Urban Growler, ifyou're listening.
If you've ever thought aboutbarrel aging a beer, it should
be this one, yeah.
As far as we know, you know,that's what we would recommend,
though, because that's I agreewith you, jim.
That's good.
I'm going to go a 3.0 as well,are you?
Oh yeah, I was like I'm hopingI'm not going too high, but
(15:28):
that's good, I really do enjoythat.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I mean for me it like checks all the boxes that we
always kind of mentally gothrough when we're tasting.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
The only thing that I could say is I wish there was a
little bit more aroma, yes, butthe flavor makes up for it.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Right and the finish is smooth.
It doesn't have an aftertaste.
I mean, really really good jobon that one.
Yeah, that is really good, wow.
So, speaking of good job, let'ssee how good you do on this
question.
Okay, all right.
So which country in Europe wasthe first to prohibit all
alcoholic beverages?
The first to prohibit?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
all alcoholic beverages.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Alcoholic beverages.
The first to prohibit allalcoholic beverages.
What country Boy?
It's an easy one too.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm sure it is.
I'm trying to think where Is itstill banned today, do you?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
know, I know, but it's you, don't, it is not today
.
It is not today.
So that's part of my otherquestion, jeez, and if you think
about it, it's actually part ofdrinking too, the country's
name Part of drinking, that's it.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean that hint should give it away.
I don't particularly knowdrinking Estonia.
I don't think that's a country.
Birooslavia, You're close.
I'm going to say Great Britain.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I have no idea How's that tied to how about Iceland?
Iceland, yeah, you put ice inyour drink.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Okay, well, wow, I'm trying to give it away, okay,
alright, so Iceland.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Prohibited all alcohol In 1915.
Wow, and it was.
And it remained banned In thatcountry, iceland, until when
2000.
Close 1 March 1989.
And it remained banned in thatcountry, iceland, until when
2000.
Close 1 March 1989.
74 years, wow.
So now, what do they call thatday, the day that it?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
came back.
Yep, happy day, beer day, skål.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Skål, yeah, see, I tried to tie you in a Minnesota
part for you there.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Dang.
Why did it say why theyoutlawed it or banned it?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So apparently, iceland had a long battle with
Denmark over their independenceand as the Danes were big fans
of a brew, it was viewed asunpatriotic to enjoy one oh Boy.
When bans on other alcoholbegan to lift the following
decades, the government wereconcerned that the availability
of cheap beer would encouragealcohol abuse.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, I can understand that part of it After
74 years.
Somebody was butthurt becausethey liked a beer or whatever,
and so they didn't.
We're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You could have picked another one, See.
So that was three easyquestions.
That was minus 300.
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I still think Beeristovia, or whatever, should
be a country.
You were close, you were in thenorthern parts of Europe.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
so you were close.
Yes, I was getting closer, sogeographically you were really.
So I'll take one point.
So you only got minus 299.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Okay, I appreciate that.
Yes, thank you, I'm not upsetthere.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
All right, so what do we got next?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
All right, so we're going to stick with Urban
Growler, Okay, and this is Urban.
This is another beer that BKgave me, okay, and this is the D
Lovely Porter.
And this one is oh look, itdoesn't say on the can what the
ABV is.
Oh, I found 5.6.
Oh look, it doesn't say on thecan what the ABV is.
(18:42):
Oh, I found 5.6.
Oh, okay, so it's the same asthe other one.
Then 33 IBUs, all right.
So let's see, does this say asmooth melody of dark, malty
deliciousness, notes of carameland chocolate, perfect for year
round enjoyment.
And if you look on the can,it's got like musical
instruments on it, like asaxophone and a.
I don't know if that's like abig, if it's like a stand-up
(19:03):
bass kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know what I mean?
One of those big like a giantViolin.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Violin and a keyboard and some drums.
Wow, so interesting.
Now.
Did you find any more on thisone?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Two sentences Okay, nice, it's delightful, it's
delicious, it's delightful, it'sdelicious, it's de-lovely.
Okay, smooth and dark, yetrefreshing.
You don't have to wait untilthe snow falls to enjoy this
dark beauty.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Okay, I'm hoping that it has kind of a similar vibe
as what the latte did.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
It's our first dark one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And 5.6,.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
is that what you said ?
Yep and 33, so maybe a littlehigher in hoppiness, Maybe a
little bit hoppier.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But we'll see, because hopefully you know some
of the porters.
You need a little bit of a biteto it, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, this is dark For a porter.
This is darker, still not much,still pretty light on the aroma
.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yep Tastes like a porter.
That's definitely malty yeah,Definite malty.
Roasted malt flavor.
That's not bad it's not bad, Ithink between the two, I would
grab the vanilla one first.
Yes, this one.
The flavor does linger a littlebit on you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean we've had some decent pours.
I mean, this is definitely onthe upper side of pourers, it's
not on the lower side for myopinion, but I think, like you
mentioned, they probably couldhave put a little bit additional
flavor, something else with it,and I think it would have made
it really good.
I don't know what, I don'treally have a good idea of what
type of flavor, but something.
I don't think it would have hadto have been sweet, but maybe
like a little, maybe a fruit orsomething.
(20:29):
Sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, it's, you know cause we've had this, but but
this one it it.
You definitely get that.
That roasted malt flavorCaramel.
I don't know if I really get acaramel flavor out of it, I
definitely.
I do get the chocolate, yes,you know, and but the the malt
(20:51):
really kind of overpowers alittle.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, that's what you reallypick up on the chocolate and
then that roasted malt flavor,right.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, maybe the caramel would have helped it a
little bit more, maybe.
Maybe that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, I do like it.
For a porter it's still verygood.
Yes, I think that I do agreewith you.
They could have just tweaked itJust something, just a little
bit, and I think it would havereally made it even that much
better, Even a much betterflavor.
Score-wise I'm going to go likea 2.9 on this one.
All right, so just a touch.
I do like that vanilla latteone better.
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Okay, this one for a porter.
It is a good porter and it's5.6%.
I don't know on a hot day ifI'd want to sit around and drink
this like sitting out in thegarage.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
This may not be a summer time drink.
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I mean fall, no problem at all.
But yeah, no problem at all,you know.
But yeah, I think that, but youcould do it, but I just I don't
think that would be the firstone, just because and I do like
porters, you know, we both likeporters and it does have a good
flavor, but I just think on ahot day it's probably going to
be a little bit much for yousitting there.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
you know, and I mean they do say in here you don't
have to wait until the snowfalls to enjoy this.
So maybe, and I don't know whenif BK had found those at the
same, maybe the timing was just,even though we have it now,
maybe it wasn't a summertimebeer.
Right right, nothing againstthe beer itself, but I mean
maybe it is more of a wintertimebeer.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean, is that such a thing?
Yeah, I'm trying to rememberwhen he gave it to.
I think it was this spring thathe got them, but it's
definitely not.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's a very good beer .
Oh, exactly, it's just now,like you mentioned, it may not
be a summertime beer, right, Ithink?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
if we had that one in a porter lineup, it would hold
its own oh easily.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yes, Just that this one is still kind of we're in
that little bit lighter.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yes, you know and I think I'm gonna say, with the
same score, you had a 2.9.
I think you're right up, spoton there.
I mean I like it.
I mean it's not, but I likewhat you said too, that the
vanilla latte is definitely astep up in flavor.
Right, I like that one.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I will touch better I will say this that it these two
have made me really kind ofwant to look for some more urban
growler and see what otherbeers they have.
Or you know jump online, checkout their website, see where
they're located, you know, andcheck them out, possibly because
they're both very good.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yes, you know Really good, I'm happy with them.
Yeah, all right, are you ready?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So to bring my happiness down, why don't you
hit me with another question?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
All right, we're always talking about homebrewing
, right?
Yes, what year and by whomapproved home brewing in the
United States?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well, no, I guess because, George Washington
originally, I think he homebrewed.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Right, he did, but he didn't actually sign anything
to say it is legal, see?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
trick.
Question Okay, good questionOkay Because.
I know he home brewed?
Yep, he sure did.
But how long To make itofficial?
Boy, this is a tricky one.
Now can you give me a hint?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I mean, is it way back when?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I know the year starts with a one.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
It starts with a one and the second number's a nine.
Oh, okay, so it was in the1900s, yep Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So it went for over 100 years before it became legal
Right.
It became illegal.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, ah, in the 1900s, who would be the
president, right, I'll give youthat Okay and this easy one.
Once you hear the name, you'llbe like oh yeah, now I know I'm
trying to think what presidentout there really liked beer.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I'm just going to Jimmy Carter, because Billy Beer
.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
No, that's my guess.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yes, woo-hoo, did you get my notes?
Nope, I pulled that one Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
The only reason I thought that is because his
brother had that Billy Beer orsomebody made it Billy.
Beer.
So, man, that was the 1970s 78.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, late 70s, president Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Wow, wow.
Hey, urban Growler, thanks forgetting my thinker thinking.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Man, that was a good.
I didn't think you'd get that,but that's congratulations.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
When you said, once you hear, I thought okay, the
only president, because I'mtrying to think okay, do I know
a president that drank a lot ofbeer?
They never really say that Idon't think he drank a lot, but
I think his correct.
But the only one I knewanything that had any kind of
tie to beer was his brother.
Yep, Because there's still.
I know you can find onlinewhere people still have those
full.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh, I do have a can.
Oh, do you, you got the can?
Open it from the bottom, fromthe bottom, yep.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So that's pretty crazy.
Yes, nice, so I get like 1,000points for that.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You got one, so 298.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
If I wouldn't have asked those hints.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'd have got 1,000, right, Yep see but see, you got
it right though Dang.
So you've actually got 50% onone question and one question
right, an entire one, right yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I don't know what's going on, jim Wow must be the
beer.
It could be, I don't know.
Well, what do we got up next?
Well, the next one we have, andthis one when brought it out,
it did surprise me, because thisis our first Marzon beer of the
season, and this is by BentPaddle and it says a Marzon
Party Lager.
Have we had one of those before?
(25:49):
I'm not sure.
This is Munchen Pretzels.
Nice you know it's supposed tobe Munchen Pretzels, but it's
spelled like Munich MunchenPretzels.
And this is Bent Paddle BrewingCompany and they're in Duluth,
minnesota, and it is.
Is it 6%?
Yep, I got 18 IBUs, okay.
Does it say on the can anythinghere?
(26:11):
Roll out the barrel with ourMarzon Party Lager, a festive
blend of German hops and malts.
Polka in your stein.
Serve with pretzels Prost.
Now we're getting close.
Jim informed me that heactually was able to find some
new.
Well, some 2025.
(26:32):
Oktoberfest, oktoberfest.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So we're going to have our third annual August
Oktoberfest will be coming up.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It won't be long, won't be long.
So did you have any otherlineup on this one, won't?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
be long, won't be long.
So did you have any otherlineup on this one?
So it says the Munchen Pretzelis a classic Marzon Bayer.
Marzon beer, bayer Bayer thatboasts a rich amber color and a
medium-bodied mouthfeel.
Brewed with traditional Germanmalts and hops, this beer offers
a perfect balance of sweetnessand bitterness.
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The aroma is characterized bynotes of toasted bread, caramel
and a hint of spicy hops A hint,hint.
The flavor profile is dominatedby a delicious bready malt
character with hints of caramel,making it an excellent choice
to pair with traditional Germancuisine, especially soft
(27:23):
pretzels and sausages.
Nice, prost, prost, awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So let's hope that right up there we had a pretty
good talking lot there, so thisshould be exciting to get our
first taste of a.
So this is almost likepre-season right, yeah.
This is our pre-season for ourAugust Toberfest here.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, this might be the second darkest beer we've
had today.
This is definitely dark.
The Oktoberfests aren't usuallythis dark, are they?
Maybe not quite this dark, butit's close, close.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
yeah, it has that faint Oktoberfesty type.
You know what I mean, reallyfaint.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Very faint.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's the one thing so far with all these.
They've been pretty faint yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
That's the one thing so far with all these.
They've been pretty faint, yeah, not much for aroma, kind of
Very.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
The mouthfeel is definitely smooth.
I don't mind that Flavor-wise.
So far on the first it didn'treally jump out.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, it tastes almost sweeter, though it's like the
sweetest one we've had today Alittle bit yeah.
Yeah, I would agree with you.
Yeah, but I don't know what,actually.
I don't know what soggy toastedbread tastes like.
I don't know if that's a goodthing.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Usually, if the bread is soggy, I throw it away.
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Sometimes it may not be the best choice of words to
like describe your beer, butyeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
it does get me in the mood, though, to get into some
Oktoberfest.
Yeah, but it's just.
The flavor is just a little bitmuted for me for being a Marzan
, but it's definitely drinkable.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I guess you know we talked
about how, the urban growler,you could really taste their
different flavors.
This one, I don't know if Idon't taste spicy hops, no, I
don't.
The toasted bread, the, maybe,the caramel, maybe maybe that's
(29:07):
a little disappointing.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, I mean, I know before I've talked about it that
Oktoberfests are all across theboard.
On the flavor there's notreally.
You know, a lot of times youget an amber, you kind of get
every amber has a somewhat atleast a hint of the similar
flavor, right, you know?
Or something like that, whereOktoberfests are just all over,
all over.
You can't one tastes completelydifferent than another and this
is a party lager, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So that's.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I don't know if there's a difference there,
right?
So we don't know that.
That's the one thing I wouldlike to know.
If is a Marzen party lagerdifferent than just a Marzen,
very good question.
I don't know that.
It's again.
I think somebody that's neverhad an Oktoberfest they could
drink this one, yeah.
Because I mean it is prettymellow yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You're not going to get scared away by it.
No, no.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Because you know some of the Oktoberfests we've had
in the past, they have some thathave really kind of a bite to
them, right, you know, and otherones definitely taste more on
the lager end and I don't know.
This one is pretty I don't wantto say nondescript, but it's
very mellow, easy drinking.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Right, it's probably right in the middle of all the
Marzan flavors.
I think you're right.
It's like right down.
I'm actually going to go onestep.
I'm going to say a 2.3.
I'm sorry, 2.4.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Real close to the middle for me.
Yeah, I'm going to go.
I kind of have a preconceivedthought of it should be kind of
in this type of a range offlavors, and this one is very
good.
If you've never had anOktoberfest, you could
definitely drink this.
Yes, but for you and I and kindof our group of people that are
definitely into craft beer,they'd all be kind of like, okay
(30:40):
, can we try a different one,right?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Just because it's very mellow, yes, you know, so
no doubt about that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
But it's, it's, it's good.
I wouldn't if that's allsomebody hadn't said hey, you
want one of these, sure, I'lltake one, you know.
But yeah, I think, I thinkwe'll get into some more higher
on the scale.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
So it's probably a good thing.
This wasn't competing againstthe other ones, it was
standalone, correct?
I think you're right, and thismay not be then the summer beer
that we thought maybe we couldadd to this category.
Oh sure Well.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I think you know, I'm kind of learning.
I think, well, same with thePorter.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Maybe it's early fall .
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, late summer, early fall, that we went from 4.
What was the first one?
4.6 or 4.9?
4.9.
And we're at 6 now.
Yes, our thing was it's lowerABV, right.
Yes, and 6%.
I know some people think 6% ispretty high, but it's just
scratching the surface.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yes, we, we got some.
Well, these are all.
These are actually.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, All of these are lower 6% or under 6% or
under.
Yeah, yep, so we have two morethat are 6% as well.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
And it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I'm not going to lie.
I think the last two are goingto definitely be an interesting
to see how they are, you know,compared to all these other ones
.
So I'm, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right Is well.
I know there is a place becausethey told me about it.
Name the location where you cancombine your love of beer with
your love of athletics, my loveof beer.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
with my love athletics, or you mean with
athletics, athletics.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Because that could be a whole different thing,
because this place has a poolfilled with beer.
What?
Which is not only a novelty,but is also said to have
benefits for your skin.
So where is this?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
at, so you can go somewhere and swim in a pool
full of beer.
Yep, where in the world wouldthat be?
Okay?
It could be two possibilities.
Is it in the United States?
No, okay, that rules out theone.
You're wanting the actuallocation or just the country.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I have the name of the brewery, the city and the
country name.
Oh my word.
So you can try any one of thethree.
Swim in a pool of beer, and Idon't think we've had a beer
from there either.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Oh, that makes it even more difficult Boy country.
I'm just going to throw outGermany.
It's wrong, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You were close you were close Guam.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Is it because it starts with a G?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
or what so it's actually at Starkenberger
brewery okay, in turenz, austriaoh, I was close.
I know, I said I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So my other one, jim, that I was thinking, because
there's is it brew dogs,somebody?
They have a hotel and I know Ithink you've seen it online as
well okay, because I've seen iton like social media there's a
hotel where you can you staythere and it's hooked to a
brewery and there's beer in yourroom and you've got.
I mean, it's just, it's likethis whole beer thing.
So I thought, okay, maybethat's you know they have a
(33:41):
swimming pool full of beer.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You know it wouldn't have shocked me, but apparently
and I didn't know this beer isrich in calcium and other
vitamins that help with skinconditions, and hops have a
calming agent to help you relax.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Well, I know my brother always said if you catch
you feel like you're catching acold you're supposed to drink
six IPAs.
Oh, and that's supposed to helpbecause of the.
You know the properties of thehops.
And I said, well, is it that?
Or after six beers you'regetting drunk, so you really
don't care how you feel.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Then you go to sleep no matter what Exactly
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So in Austria that's pretty wild.
Yeah, like I said, I don'trecognize the name of the
brewery, so we may not have everhad something from them.
And they said also, you're notsupposed to drink from the pool.
Just FYI.
I was going to say how are yougoing to know if somebody pees
in the pool?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Right, and plus it's probably not as cold as what
we're drinking, I'm guessing notBoy.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
you just ruined my dream there, I guess.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But it still is available.
Okay, so if we're ever inAustria, we can go there and
swim in the beer pool, All right.
So what do we have last?
We got two to go, dude.
Two to go.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Now, we've had some very good beers from this
brewery before, but they'veusually been on the higher ABV
side, so I'm kind of intriguedby this one.
This is by Prairie artisan ales.
This is their albino rhino,really, yes.
And this is a white stout withcacao nibs, vanilla and coffee,
(35:10):
and this is is it's six percentabv as well.
Yep, now the artwork on the canis a bunch of different colored
rhinos and one is white, yes,with a baseball cap on it.
So Different, different, yes,very artsy looking can.
So did.
Were you able to find no?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
no that's all it had.
All right it just says a whitestout with cacao, vanilla and
coffee.
All right.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Well, we'll crack into it.
Let's see what happens.
I'm real interested.
You know, we've had, like theDragon's Mill White Stout.
We've had a few White Stoutsand they usually have more of a
vanilla flavor to them.
And I'm excited to see how theydo on this, because their other
actual stouts are very good andit's definitely not a darker
stout.
No, it looks like a white stout.
You know it's like that.
A little bit darker than apilsner color.
Right, you know whitehead.
(36:03):
Again, I'm not getting a huge.
I can smell coffee on the aroma.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Very, very faint.
It's not strong aroma.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
No, there's something there, I get the vanilla.
Is that coffee?
I get the coffee for sure, thecocoa Cacao, the cacao.
Well, I suppose that's probablythe coffee.
I think is probably covering upmore of that, but I do get
vanilla in the coffee.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's not bad, though.
I mean it's okay, it's just,the flavors are really competing
with each other.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Very smooth though Interesting.
This is like one of the fewones I've seen where they've had
that has been in a can Right.
Most of their beers are in thebottles Right Like the Bomb, and
the Deconstructed Bomb, theBomb, the Deconstructed Bomb,
the Birthday Bomb, the Christmas.
Bomb, you know all that stuff,and they do a good job Right,
very good job.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
So this one.
It's interesting.
Different.
Do you get the?
Yeah, I've never heard of thisone before.
It's possible this might be asummertime beer.
Just by the color it could be.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And the flavor is good, but it definitely has a
little bit of a stronger coffeeflavor, right?
So I think some of our friendswould be like, oh, coffee and
cigarettes.
So you might have to have thiswhen you first wake up, right?
Like I said, I do get thecoffee, I get the vanilla.
I don't really pick up thechocolate from the cacao nibs no
(37:18):
, up the chocolate from thecacao nibs no.
But I think the coffee probablykind of masks some of that.
Right, I'm gonna go a 2.7 onthis one.
I do like it, but I do wish thatit maybe it was a little more
vanilla and just a little bitless of the coffee, you know.
And then it would be kind ofright in line with all those
other white stouts that we'vehad, right, you know, and I do
like that flavor.
So this is.
But hey, prairie Artisan Ale,this is a good beer, mm-hmm, you
(37:41):
know.
And I think the only thing, Ithink a new person would be like
boy, if they don't like coffee,they're not going to like it,
because it is very strong in acoffee flavor.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I echo everything you're saying.
I would even, maybe, evenemphasize, maybe drop the coffee
flavor a little bit, add alittle bit more cacao and
vanilla.
It'd be spot on.
Yep, perfect, yep.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
So I think I'm actually going to go with the
same score.
I'm going to say a 2.7.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I like, like it just Not bad, you know, and I guess
it's good to see that they cando lower stuff, abv stuff too.
Yes, you know because most oftheir stuff is Strong.
That you know 9, 10.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
There's a lot of it's barrel aged.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Oh yeah, so yeah they do a lot of barrel aging stuff
too, so so I was going to giveyou an update on your points.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Okay, so that one question, the Iceland question,
really tanked you right therebecause you were doing so good,
I was doing so good.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
So now you're only down 297.5 points.
Oh, that's not bad.
It's better than I normally do,right?
So here we'll end this episodewith an easy question for you.
Okay, why did the pilgrims landat Plymouth Rock?
Why did?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
they land at Plymouth Rock.
Yes and yeah.
Any fourth graders yelling atme right now going really, Are
you smarter than a fifth grader?
Probably not.
It's been a long time since Iwas in fifth grade, Uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It wasn't last year.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
No, that was the toughest two years of my life.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
No, I'm joking, I'm joking.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Why did they land at Plymouth Rock?
I have no idea.
They ran out of beer.
Oh I should have known that.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
What kind of podcast are we doing?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh my gosh, Wait, let's do this over.
Take two what was the?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
question.
That's a minus 500, becausethat one was too easy.
Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I thought well, how in the world I don't know if
there's a wind blew in there?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I don't know if there's a wind blew them there.
I don't know.
Gosh, I thought you had thatone easy.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, I totally dropped the ball on that one
because they ran out of beer.
I was going to say to get tothe other side first.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I might even give you a little credit for that one.
Yeah, so this one even soundsgood.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I think, dude, now this is kind of crazy.
Okay, so this is a mead, a mead, a mead.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Okay, and honey, you're going well, wait a minute
.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You know this is an easy drink in lower ABV class.
Yep, and that's what this is.
Now here's the second thingthat confuses me.
Okay, it's barrel aged, barrelaged, a barrel aged mead, that
is 6% ABV.
And is it aged in bourbonbarrels?
That I don't know.
The writing on here is kind ofsmall.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh, I don't know if you found anything on it.
All it says is barrel Inbarrels, six months.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
We don't know what kind of barrel, but it was six
months.
Yes, this is now.
We've had other ones of these.
Okay, this is by CraftedArtisan Ales or Meadry.
I should say I apologize, but Iapologize, but this is their
maple pecan pie.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Ooh, Now we've struggled to get a good pecan,
haven't we?
We have.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Pecan-flavored beer.
Now, if this tastes like pecanpie, I'll be in heaven.
Okay, so we'll find out Now.
Did you find anything?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I don't know.
All I got was so it saysSession, but is that right?
Session Mead?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It could be yeah, because it's a lower ABV,
because meads are typicallyhigher in.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
ABV Session mead with maple pecans.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Well, I don't want to talk over you, but your opener
is an opening All right.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Oh, I got it.
Oh, you got to be smarter thana tool.
So we got maple, pecans andnatural flavors.
That's all it says.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
All right, it looks like a mead, it's light.
I mean, it's definitely alighter, very light in color, in
color.
Yes, boy, this is going to bein our oh what's on the back?
One more slice, please.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Oh, one more slice of the pie, of the pie, what
smells like honey to me?
I was going to say I don't geta whole lot of.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Is that honey that I smell?
I think so, but that's whatmead is made out of.
Yes, so we should probablysmell that.
I don't taste pecan pie at all,but I get the barrel I can take
well on the finish, hang on.
There's something sweet inthere All of a sudden.
It's like wait a second.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I thought it was like a cider at first, right cider.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
It almost has that flavor Boy and, like I said it's
.
I'm just trying to read on thebottle here.
It doesn't, yeah, it doesn'tsay I get the barrel, you get
that barrel flavor.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
What kind of what are you tasting?
What barrel flavor?
What type of?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
barrel.
It is almost.
It's almost a super faintbourbon barrel, is it?
But you know, I mean you getthat oaky, so maybe just an oak
barrel maybe it could be just anoak barrel, because it doesn't
say a liquor was aged in thatbarrel, right.
Because typically if there'sbourbon they're going to say
bourbon.
They may not tell you whatbrand, but it'll say bourbon,
right.
So this could be just in oakbarrels, but I do get that
(42:28):
flavor.
It's not bad, I guess.
No, I mean it's different.
I can safely say I don't thinkwe've ever had a barrel-aged
beer.
That was 6%.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I would almost guarantee that we haven't,
because every time that I guesswhat we found if somebody's
going to take the time tobarrel-age it, they're going to
increase the ABV.
I think that's usually what wefound Yep At least nine, if not
double digits percent.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Man, I don't taste maple pecan pie.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
No, I don't really get a maple flavor even no,
that's what I thought it was.
It almost at first that veryfirst sip tasted like one of
those apple ciders.
To me it was a little sweeterbecause my teeth were actually
hurt, you know from thesweetness Right it was not over
the top, but I mean just alittle bit sweet I mean.
So it's not bad, it's just Idon't get the flavors that they
were telling me were going to bethere.
That's the hard part.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I agree with you.
Like I said, I'd taste thatbarrel.
Now you know, is it okay?
Did they age maple syrup in abarrel?
I don't know, but I'm notgetting.
Typically, when you have amaple syrup, beer or whatever,
you definitely taste that.
I don't taste that.
I get that hint of the barreland then I just get the
sweetness yes, like you said, ofmore of a cider.
(43:38):
And I don't know if I taste apecan either.
No, I don't taste pecan.
I don't taste pecan pie at all.
No, gosh.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I was.
You know, I was kind of looking.
This is the last one.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I was like man, this is like going to be the cherry
on top of the episode.
Again, I was just like I stilllike it.
I'm not saying that it's bad,but it's different than what I
was hoping it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yes, I know exactly.
I mean, and I mean we haven'tdone on the podcast, we haven't
done a lot of meads.
So I mean it's nothing againstmeads, right.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I mean they definitely have a different
flavor how they're made, they'rebuilt, constructed, so BK and I
did a podcast on meads and thatwas the first one that we did
Right.
This one yeah, like I said, I'mgoing to have some more, but I
just wish it tasted like pecanpie, you know, or maple, or
something you know Right.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I was so looking forward to that barrel-aged
maple pecan pie.
I mean, the way those words arekind of has you salivating,
like, oh, this is going to begood, exactly, and the bottle
has a.
It's a unique shaped bottle too, so I was like they did extra
work on the bottle.
I mean the flavors.
I was like, oh shoot, yep, thisis probably the, for me,
(44:53):
probably the biggestdisappointment of today's class
Right, probably the biggestdisappointment of today's class.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Right, yeah, I would say you know.
Going back to the, if it's onthe label, it should be in the
can or bottle.
You know?
Maple, I don't get maple.
I don't get pecan, I don't getpecan pie.
I don't, you know I do get thebarrel a little bit.
I still like it because it'sdifferent than the other crafted
ones that we've had Right andcrafted crafted ones that we've
(45:23):
had right and crafted does.
All their stuff is that I'vehad so far is all right at six
percent, okay, so they make it.
So pretty much anybody candrink it, which is cool, don't
get me wrong, but but I again itshould be in there and what do
you that is disappointing boy.
what do I give it for a score?
Because I I do like the flavor,but if it tasted like maple
pecan pie it would have beenreally good, really good.
This could have been the bestone of the day.
I'm going to go a 2.5.
It's average Average scoreright down the middle.
(45:44):
Just because of that I like theflavor.
It has a sweetness.
I do think a lot of peoplecould drink it, but we're more.
I guess you could say sticklerson if it says that and that's
the big on the label maple pecanpie.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
That's why people would buy this Correct.
That's why I bought it Rightbecause of what it says on the
bottle and what it's going totaste like Yep.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
So, yeah, I like the flavor, but I got to knock it to
a 2.5, which is average, butit's because it had so much
potential.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
I'm going to echo right with you.
2.5 I mean I was.
It's my biggest disappointment.
Not because it tastes bad, butbecause I had such high
anticipation of what it said onthe outside of the bottle that
it was going to actually tastelike, because all those flavors
are really good.
I was so looking forward tohaving that, those flavors with
me.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
So that's I agree real close, yep, so overall it
was an interesting class.
Yes, like I said, it was you.
It was all over the board forstyles.
We didn't have anything thesame we had nothing the same, so
that was cool.
Yes, like I said, the commonwas 4.9% to 6% ABV.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Low ABV.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
And basically anybody could drink them Right.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah, we had no stinkers.
No, I mean, none of them werebad, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
For me.
Bad, exactly.
Uh, for me I would still saythat the vanilla latte was my
number one.
Again, I just think that flavorwas outstanding, really good.
You know, uh, they could havetweaked it just a little bit,
but not, they didn't have totweak it much at all to be
really good, or put it in abarrel, it could be in the
running for a beer of the year,so we're just throwing that out
there.
Urban growler, if you need a prostaff, please email us.
And the other ones I guess youknow I did like their porter.
(47:21):
The albino rhino kind of wassuper close.
It was close that one needed tobe tweaked a little bit, you
know, and I did still enjoy themaple pecan pie, but it just
wasn't what it said.
But if I had to pick to me theclear number one was that
vanilla latte blonde.
(47:42):
But like I said, the nice thingis anybody could drink any of
these and I would not be ashamedto recommend any of these
honestly to somebody that reallyhasn't drank a lot of that
style.
Right, I guess the only onewould probably be the porter,
just because it definitely ithad that porter flavor, and I
think the malt.
If a person has never had it,they might be like oh you know,
(48:04):
that's too strong For us.
It was totally fine, you know.
So yeah, I guess that's kind ofmy consensus for this class.
What'd you think?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, clear number one hands down was the vanilla
latte.
That was really really goodbeer.
Highly recommend that one foranybody, whether you're a novice
or a seasoned craft beerdrinker.
That one was really good.
The other ones again, they'reall.
We had such a big variety.
We didn't have anything incommon other than we're just
trying them today.
Right, there wasn't.
(48:32):
So they're all kind of standalone on themselves and they're
all very good beers which Idon't think anybody would get
scared of drinking craft beer byany of them.
But my clear number one was avanilla latte, I think.
My number two, I did like theporter and I did like the rhino
albino.
Yeah, so those three areprobably at the top, but then
just a half a step below werethe other three.
(48:54):
Yeah, all were still good.
I'm glad we tried them and I'mglad we I mean cause this is
good just to have a big variety.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, exactly, and, like I said, our whole point of
this class was just so manydifferent styles that you can
get in a lower ABV.
Right, you know, so they'rereally.
If you're just getting intocraft beer, you can try any.
Basically any style out thereis going to have a lower ABV
representation, and you canstart there and then work your
way into some some higher stuff.
Yes, for sure, you know.
(49:20):
So.
Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
So what do we do?
We know, or have you thoughtabout what might be in the next
episode?
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Well, you know we're, we've done too many of these
low ABV things.
I think, Okay, I think we'regoing to.
We got to put our.
We're going to jump her up, Ithink in the next one, but then
after that, then we're going tostart breaking into Oktoberfest
stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Okay, all right.
It smells like that might be inthe air.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
It smells like it's getting closer to being in the
air, because we just had one,yeah, and, like I said, this
would be our third annualAugustoberfest, all right, so
hopefully we can keep.
I know you said you had found anumber of them, so I'm looking
forward to that.
I'm looking, you know, thisfall, of course I'm looking
forward to.
We've got to find pumpkin beers, right, you know that's always
(50:03):
good.
And then we get into the barrelage stuff we might have to do
that again, huh.
Yeah, I know you don't like to.
You're going to force us to dothat we may have to do and I
both have a lot.
We'll just say a lot.
Looking at my bar how many?
Speaker 2 (50:18):
boxes.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, in my basement and I've got three fridges of
beer and I don't have enoughroom for all of that stuff.
Yeah it's a lot, so we're goingto wrap up this easy drinking
thing with this episode, andthen we'll just kind of see
where it takes us.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Let's see how it goes .
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Well, awesome, well, hey.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank youso much for listening to us.
Please go out, visit any craftbrewery, go to a store, buy a
craft beer and just start tryingit.
Support local.
The money stays local, you know, that's always a good thing,
yes, and you know, keeplistening, there you go so hey,
like we always say, weCampfire's always warm and your
beers are always cold, see ya.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
See ya.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
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Guy podcast.
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(51:17):
your beer is cold.
Grab a beer and pull up a chair.
Welcome to the Northwoods BeerGuy Podcast.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, andwelcome back to the Northwoods
Beer Guy Podcast.
This is Mike, the NorthwoodsBeer Guy, and, as always, I am
joined by Jim.
Hey, buddy, how are you doing?
Doing good, how about yourself?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Just another day in paradise living the dream.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
There you go.
We are still in the summer,somewhat summer beer mode.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I guess.
Yes, it still feels like summeroutside.
There's a lot of humidity outthere.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
It was humid and hot and icky.
You got sweat going places, youdon't want to tell people about
that's right Not to you know.
Polite company anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm ready for some cool beer.
I think this is a perfect dayto be doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I think so.
I think so.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Looks like we've got a smorgasbord of beer.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We've got like a mixed bag of different styles,
and I guess part of the reasonwe kind of look at it this way
is just to show that there are alot of different styles that
are available in a lower ABV, oh, you know where.
It's not just Shandy's andPilsners and that kind of stuff,
all right.
So yeah, we've got one, two,three, four, five, six, six
(01:28):
different beers and probably sixdifferent styles, I'm guessing.
I think so.
I think I don't see anythingthat's close to the same.
Yeah, that's pretty wild.
Now it should be interesting,because it's probably going to
be kind of difficult to rankthese.
You know, like we did last week,right, but, we'll do our
scoring and then just kind ofgive our thoughts and such you
know, okay, all right.
But it should be interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it should be.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh boy, Now you got some trivia.
Oh, I do have some questions.
I was wondering why.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I only had Look at you, see them all.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I only had three pages and I wondered why you had
more.
So we, I need to have somethingto help my thinker.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Stimulate your brain cells?
Yeah, all right.
Well, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
The first one that we have, and I'm going to kind of
give you a little story on thisone.
This is Leinenkugel's,northwood's Amber, amber, yes,
and it's what did it say?
4.9%, yep.
Now, years ago, amber had, orAmber see oh, not Heather, but
Amber.
No, not Heather yeah, lion andKugel's head, they called it
(02:34):
just Northwoods.
You know it was Northwoods andit was an Amber and it was
almost a real dark Amber kind ofa reddish kind of color.
It had a little bit of strongerflavor.
It was really good.
And then they decided that, uh,they were going to stop making
it because they they, theirthought process was they the
most of that that they sold wasin northern wisconsin.
Okay, okay, I don't see whatthe problem is, but neither here
(02:56):
nor there they decided to quitmaking it and they expanded
their shandy production.
Oh, you know so they could getevery flavor of shandy you could
think of.
Well, I think I think they hadgot enough people that were kind
of saying hey, we wantNorthwoods back.
That it was probably, oh, I'mguessing, four or five years
later, they decided that, hey,we're coming back out with
Northwoods, and the only way youcould get it, though, was in
(03:17):
that pack that you had got.
Was it from Sam Adams?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh, the variety pack.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, they had a 12-pack like that sam adams
variety pack.
Yeah, they had a 12 pack likethat, and the only place you
could get northwoods was in thatwinter variety pack.
Oh so, and it's kind of funny.
So I looked all over town and Ifound I found it at walgreens
of all places.
Really it was the weirdestthing I've ever noticed.
But so I had bought it ran, itwas in their cooler so it was
cold.
So I was like great, ran home,put the rest of it in the in the
(03:44):
fridge, and then I took out oneof those northwoods and when I
cracked it open it was thelightest pilsner color you've
ever seen, really.
And I'm like this isn'tnorthwoods, you know.
And they, they had a beer thatwas called I think it was like
special or something specialedition or something like that,
and it looked kind of like that.
So when I tasted, it'm likethis is not Northwoods at all,
(04:04):
whoa, and so I was really bummed.
So then I went on like theirFacebook page just to look and,
boy, they were just gettingblasted by people on social
media that that is notNorthwoods.
So it went like that for aboutoh, I'm guessing, three, four
weeks and all of a sudden,lainey's makes a post and they
(04:26):
admitted.
Admitted, yes, that is not the,the northwoods.
Oh okay, remember, this was.
This was a different recipe,quote unquote.
So then they still, you know,they still offered that one.
It's still out there.
It's lineys, northwoods and butthen, probably the year after
that, I believe it was they cameout with this Northwoods Amber.
So this is closer to what theNorthwoods beer was, but it's
(04:48):
still not the same.
All right, but it's closer thanit was.
So anyway, that was thebackstory on this one.
I don't know if you haddiscovered any.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I followed up a little bit like a couple
sentences because we got the4.9% ABV right Yep, 18 IBUs and
it says originally introduced in1986, Northwood's Amber quickly
became a fan favorite incoolers across the country.
In fact Northwood's Amber haswon a gold medal in 1993 at the
Great American Beer Festival inthe premium lager category.
(05:20):
It's made with some of thefinest quality ingredients,
including some hops, barley oatsand water from right here in
Wisconsin.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And I will seriously tell you yes, that original one
was very good, okay, very good,and I can see how it won awards,
so we're going to hold you toit.
You're going to guarantee thisone right, I'm not guaranteeing
that it's that because, again tome, it's not the same as what
it was.
Oh you're not going toguarantee and it's got a twist
off, all right, twist off, wewill uh let's see what happens
(05:50):
here.
So you see, I mean it's, it'sstill, it's an amber, but it's
not.
The original one was really adarker amber, so it's it's
closer, it's red ish, yeah, Istill think that maybe it was
probably expensive to make, youknow, and after they got
purchased, right, let's cutcorners, you know, cheapen stuff
up at times, I don't know.
(06:11):
Just my opinion.
So, all right, yeah, this is,it's an amber, but it's kind of
a definitely a lighter amber.
It's almost like golden, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A little darker than a golden.
Yeah, yeah, smells like a lager.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No, it's like a lager .
Yes, you know definitely.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Good aroma.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yep Got kind of that sweetness in the aroma.
It's not bad.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I mean, this is it's one I could drink on a hot day,
you know where.
The original one was a littlelittle heavier, oh right, you
know, but it was still very good.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But I mean, this isn't bad, this is better than
what all.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
No, not really.
I mean it's been around for awhile and yeah.
I mean the flavor.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
it's decent so what do you want to start with your
first score of the day?
See this is where I always getmyself hurt or in trouble
because I say a score and thenit's like dang it.
I should have waited on thatone, especially since we don't
know what the other one's goingto taste like Right, right, If
we do that, it would be a loteasier to score them Exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
So, boy, I'm going to go a 2.4, so I can leave the
2.5 open.
I usually start there and thenI'm like dang it, I shouldn't
have put that there.
I do like it, but rememberingwhat the old one was, you know
what I mean.
It really to me is kind of alower version of that, but again
, I could drink it on a hot dayand this is coming out of the
cooler.
It'd be good.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, I'm going to see your 2.4 and I'm going to
raise it a little bit Onlybecause I don't have the back
history that you do Right.
So I'm going to say a 2.6.
I mean there's no bad.
The first, maybe second timesI've ever had it it still tastes
good, so I'm good with it.
I mean it's still.
(07:48):
It's not overly flavorful, soyou can't really go too far out
of our median score, but I thinkit's still okay.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, I mean, if you had this in a cooler and you had
their summer shandy in a cooler, I'd grab this a hundred times
before oh summer shandy in acooler.
I'd grab this a hundred timesbefore.
Oh, would you?
Oh, yeah, so yeah, it's it's.
I don't mind it, you know it's,it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So let's see here, should I give you some of the
harder questions or some of theeasier?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
questions.
Well, I'm sure they're allgoing to be difficult, so All
right, so let's start with theeasy one.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay, can you tell me the four states in the United
States that have the most craftbreweries?
It doesn't have to be insequence, just four states that
have the most.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That have the most located in the state.
Yep, okay, I would say, let mesee California's got to be on
there, because they're a largepopulation, Yep there's one.
Okay, so that's in there, let'ssee who would be.
Another one I'm going to say Iwould say Colorado.
(08:47):
Well, you're lucky.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's the second one .
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh dang, I got lucky on that one, you got two for two
Okay.
Nice, can you do the rest?
Let's see.
Let's see who else would be alot of birdies man, because I
know there's.
Well, I'll throw Wisconsin outthere.
No, no, close though.
Is it close Really?
Yeah, somewhere close, let'ssee.
I don't think I'm going tothrow North Carolina out there
(09:16):
because Asheville is loaded withthem, but I don't think they're
on there.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That was close too, Was it?
You're like almost through thetarget?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
What are the other two?
So we don't.
Washington starts with a W.
How was that?
Washington is.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, wisconsin or Washington is the start with a W
, and then Oregon.
I should have said M-N-O, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I know I should have said Oregon because that's where
.
Remember, I told you how mybrother went to go there for
work, right, and he was hittingall sorts of breweries and just
the area that he was at.
Interesting, so there was fourchances you got two right, so I
got zero points, so you got 50%of them, right?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So you get 50% of a point.
Oh, nice you got 0.5.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay, hey, that's better than I usually start.
All have them in order of howmany.
I did not Okay, but that's thetop four.
So California, washington,oregon, the entire West Coast,
yep and Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And Colorado.
Okay, interesting, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's a good factoid to know.
Yeah, so that was the easy one.
Well, that's good, so I was 50%right.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Right, some of the other ones.
They get a little morechallenging.
Baits, oh okay.
And some locations, and I evenI'm going to throw one into the
Queen Victoria Museum and ArtGallery.
Okay, that's on a ship, sothat's in one of the questions,
oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
All right, well, I'm going to need some more beer
before we get there.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So what do we got now ?
All right, Well, the next one,actually the next two cans that
we have.
I actually got from BK.
He gave me these before they'reout of St Paul, Minnesota.
All right, and the brewery isUrban Growler Brewing.
Okay.
And right on the can it sayswomen owned.
So women own this brewery.
So the first one we have istheir Vanilla Latte Blond Ale.
(10:59):
Okay, and this is a 16 ouncecan and it's 5.6% ABV, all right
.
So let's see.
All right on the can here I'mjust looking it says hey,
barista, make mine a largecreamy blonde ale, not too sweet
, and hold the hop.
Make sure you add vanilla and ashot of the local roast.
(11:20):
So I'm guessing it's coffee init and vanilla.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
So I also found that it's 15 IBUs.
Okay, but it just said a smoothblonde ale infused with vanilla
and a special blend of lightespresso roasts from St Paul's
own True Stone Coffee Roasters.
Lactose adds a creamy, subtlesweetness.
The perfect brew.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
All right.
So it's got espresso in it, sowe're going to be wired.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
There we go.
So it says so.
The other factoid with thebrewers it says it's the first
woman-owned microbrewery inMinnesota.
Oh, wow.
So not only that it'swomen-owned, but it's the first
one.
Yeah, the first one.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So did it have.
I wonder if it said what yearthey started?
Yes, it did.
Oh, that's all great.
What's your guess?
I'm just going to say Close2005.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
July 2014.
2014.
Okay, yes, so that was, that's11 years.
The master brewers are DebLocke and the co-head, honcho,
jill Pavlik.
Hmm, all right, so let's seehow they did.
I don't smell much.
I say I don't get a whole lotof aroma.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
This is very light color, I mean well, it's just a
shade darker or lighter than theamber.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, and this is supposed to be a brown ale.
It says blonde ale on the can.
Oh, when I looked on the thing,it said brown.
So we could well, let's findout.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well, we'll find out.
Well, I get the.
You can definitely taste thecoffee and I get the vanilla.
Yeah, there's a little bit.
Wow, that's not bad, it's alittle bit surprising, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Honestly, I mean it's .
Maybe it's that lactose thatmaybe makes it a little sweeter.
It could be.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, that's Boy going to be.
You know what I mean, becausewe've had some vanilla beers
that you can't taste the vanilla.
You have coffee beers thateither you can't or it's way
over the top.
This is actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
What's weird for me is, like if you didn't tell me
that that was a beer and yousaid try this, I wouldn't even
think that it's a beer.
The way the flavor is, italmost is very.
The taste is so unique.
Yeah, wow, I kind of like it.
Yeah, I mean, if I was a blindtaste test trying to taste this,
I wouldn't think that this wasa beer at all.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It tastes so good.
Yeah, it does not have thatbeer taste to it.
That is wild.
Very, very good job.
Yeah, I'm impressed.
They did a good job on this andyou could drink a whole can of
it.
Yeah, it's not over the top,you know it is in a pint can,
but still, that's pretty good.
This is Urban Growler.
Urban Growler, hmm, wow, oof.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Dang.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, so what are you thinking on a score for this
Vanilla latte blonde?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Wow.
So my positives, everythingthat they said in the write-ups
on the can.
I can taste which does nothappen very often, right?
I mean we're not.
I don't think I'm not trying toknock any of the beers, I'm
just saying wow, that's good.
I mean, like you brought out,you know, vanilla is really a
difficult flavor to capture, butthey did a good job and it's
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not over the top.
The coffee, I mean, is verysubtle in there.
It's not over the top.
The lactose makes it creamy.
I mean this is.
I would have to say that ifthis would be barrel aged, we
might have one for the beer ofthe year running.
Just my opinion.
I don't know, maybe I'm talkinga little bit too much, but I
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like it.
I mean I'm going to go with 3.0.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I like it, nice.
I like the beer.
It's good.
I agree with you a hundredpercent, because I know exactly
what you're saying, cause we'vehad especially vanilla beers.
We've had so many vanilla beersthat you can't even taste it,
that it's like really, again, ifit's on the can, it should be
in the can, and this is thefirst word.
Is vanilla, yeah, and you cantaste it, and the espresso does
not overpower it.
No, you know, and I thinkthat's a good thing, I like the
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flavor.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I mean even some of our friends that don't like
coffee and cigarettes.
They probably could.
I think they wouldn't even knowthat there was coffee Right If
we didn't tell them.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I think they'd be pleasantly surprised.
I agree with you.
I definitely agree with you.
And barrel aging it.
That would be Urban Growler, ifyou're listening.
If you've ever thought aboutbarrel aging a beer, it should
be this one, yeah.
As far as we know, you know,that's what we would recommend,
though, because that's I agreewith you, jim.
That's good.
I'm going to go a 3.0 as well,are you?
Oh yeah, I was like I'm hopingI'm not going too high, but
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that's good, I really do enjoythat.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I mean for me it like checks all the boxes that we
always kind of mentally gothrough when we're tasting.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
The only thing that I could say is I wish there was a
little bit more aroma, yes, butthe flavor makes up for it.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Right and the finish is smooth.
It doesn't have an aftertaste.
I mean, really really good jobon that one.
Yeah, that is really good, wow.
So, speaking of good job, let'ssee how good you do on this
question.
Okay, all right.
So which country in Europe wasthe first to prohibit all
alcoholic beverages?
The first to prohibit?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
all alcoholic beverages.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Alcoholic beverages.
The first to prohibit allalcoholic beverages.
What country Boy?
It's an easy one too.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm sure it is.
I'm trying to think where Is itstill banned today, do you?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
know, I know, but it's you, don't, it is not today
.
It is not today.
So that's part of my otherquestion, jeez, and if you think
about it, it's actually part ofdrinking too, the country's
name Part of drinking, that's it.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean that hint should give it away.
I don't particularly knowdrinking Estonia.
I don't think that's a country.
Birooslavia, You're close.
I'm going to say Great Britain.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I have no idea How's that tied to how about Iceland?
Iceland, yeah, you put ice inyour drink.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Okay, well, wow, I'm trying to give it away, okay,
alright, so Iceland.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Prohibited all alcohol In 1915.
Wow, and it was.
And it remained banned In thatcountry, iceland, until when
2000.
Close 1 March 1989.
And it remained banned in thatcountry, iceland, until when
2000.
Close 1 March 1989.
74 years, wow.
So now, what do they call thatday, the day that it?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
came back.
Yep, happy day, beer day, skål.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Skål, yeah, see, I tried to tie you in a Minnesota
part for you there.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Dang.
Why did it say why theyoutlawed it or banned it?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So apparently, iceland had a long battle with
Denmark over their independenceand as the Danes were big fans
of a brew, it was viewed asunpatriotic to enjoy one oh Boy.
When bans on other alcoholbegan to lift the following
decades, the government wereconcerned that the availability
of cheap beer would encouragealcohol abuse.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, I can understand that part of it After
74 years.
Somebody was butthurt becausethey liked a beer or whatever,
and so they didn't.
We're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You could have picked another one, See.
So that was three easyquestions.
That was minus 300.
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I still think Beeristovia, or whatever, should
be a country.
You were close, you were in thenorthern parts of Europe.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
so you were close.
Yes, I was getting closer, sogeographically you were really.
So I'll take one point.
So you only got minus 299.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Okay, I appreciate that.
Yes, thank you, I'm not upsetthere.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
All right, so what do we got next?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
All right, so we're going to stick with Urban
Growler, Okay, and this is Urban.
This is another beer that BKgave me, okay, and this is the D
Lovely Porter.
And this one is oh look, itdoesn't say on the can what the
ABV is.
Oh, I found 5.6.
Oh look, it doesn't say on thecan what the ABV is.
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Oh, I found 5.6.
Oh, okay, so it's the same asthe other one.
Then 33 IBUs, all right.
So let's see, does this say asmooth melody of dark, malty
deliciousness, notes of carameland chocolate, perfect for year
round enjoyment.
And if you look on the can,it's got like musical
instruments on it, like asaxophone and a.
I don't know if that's like abig, if it's like a stand-up
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bass kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know what I mean?
One of those big like a giantViolin.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Violin and a keyboard and some drums.
Wow, so interesting.
Now.
Did you find any more on thisone?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Two sentences Okay, nice, it's delightful, it's
delicious, it's delightful, it'sdelicious, it's de-lovely.
Okay, smooth and dark, yetrefreshing.
You don't have to wait untilthe snow falls to enjoy this
dark beauty.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Okay, I'm hoping that it has kind of a similar vibe
as what the latte did.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
It's our first dark one, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And 5.6,.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
is that what you said ?
Yep and 33, so maybe a littlehigher in hoppiness, Maybe a
little bit hoppier.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But we'll see, because hopefully you know some
of the porters.
You need a little bit of a biteto it, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, this is dark For a porter.
This is darker, still not much,still pretty light on the aroma
.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yep Tastes like a porter.
That's definitely malty yeah,Definite malty.
Roasted malt flavor.
That's not bad it's not bad, Ithink between the two, I would
grab the vanilla one first.
Yes, this one.
The flavor does linger a littlebit on you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean we've had some decent pours.
I mean, this is definitely onthe upper side of pourers, it's
not on the lower side for myopinion, but I think, like you
mentioned, they probably couldhave put a little bit additional
flavor, something else with it,and I think it would have made
it really good.
I don't know what, I don'treally have a good idea of what
type of flavor, but something.
I don't think it would have hadto have been sweet, but maybe
like a little, maybe a fruit orsomething.
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Sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, it's, you know cause we've had this, but but
this one it it.
You definitely get that.
That roasted malt flavorCaramel.
I don't know if I really get acaramel flavor out of it, I
definitely.
I do get the chocolate, yes,you know, and but the the malt
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really kind of overpowers alittle.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, that's what you reallypick up on the chocolate and
then that roasted malt flavor,right.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, maybe the caramel would have helped it a
little bit more, maybe.
Maybe that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, I do like it.
For a porter it's still verygood.
Yes, I think that I do agreewith you.
They could have just tweaked itJust something, just a little
bit, and I think it would havereally made it even that much
better, Even a much betterflavor.
Score-wise I'm going to go likea 2.9 on this one.
All right, so just a touch.
I do like that vanilla latteone better.
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Okay, this one for a porter.
It is a good porter and it's5.6%.
I don't know on a hot day ifI'd want to sit around and drink
this like sitting out in thegarage.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
This may not be a summer time drink.
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I mean fall, no problem at all.
But yeah, no problem at all,you know.
But yeah, I think that, but youcould do it, but I just I don't
think that would be the firstone, just because and I do like
porters, you know, we both likeporters and it does have a good
flavor, but I just think on ahot day it's probably going to
be a little bit much for yousitting there.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
you know, and I mean they do say in here you don't
have to wait until the snowfalls to enjoy this.
So maybe, and I don't know whenif BK had found those at the
same, maybe the timing was just,even though we have it now,
maybe it wasn't a summertimebeer.
Right right, nothing againstthe beer itself, but I mean
maybe it is more of a wintertimebeer.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean, is that such a thing?
Yeah, I'm trying to rememberwhen he gave it to.
I think it was this spring thathe got them, but it's
definitely not.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's a very good beer .
Oh, exactly, it's just now,like you mentioned, it may not
be a summertime beer, right, Ithink?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
if we had that one in a porter lineup, it would hold
its own oh easily.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yes, Just that this one is still kind of we're in
that little bit lighter.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yes, you know and I think I'm gonna say, with the
same score, you had a 2.9.
I think you're right up, spoton there.
I mean I like it.
I mean it's not, but I likewhat you said too, that the
vanilla latte is definitely astep up in flavor.
Right, I like that one.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I will touch better I will say this that it these two
have made me really kind ofwant to look for some more urban
growler and see what otherbeers they have.
Or you know jump online, checkout their website, see where
they're located, you know, andcheck them out, possibly because
they're both very good.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yes, you know Really good, I'm happy with them.
Yeah, all right, are you ready?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
So to bring my happiness down, why don't you
hit me with another question?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
All right, we're always talking about homebrewing
, right?
Yes, what year and by whomapproved home brewing in the
United States?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well, no, I guess because, George Washington
originally, I think he homebrewed.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Right, he did, but he didn't actually sign anything
to say it is legal, see?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
trick.
Question Okay, good questionOkay Because.
I know he home brewed?
Yep, he sure did.
But how long To make itofficial?
Boy, this is a tricky one.
Now can you give me a hint?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I mean, is it way back when?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I know the year starts with a one.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
It starts with a one and the second number's a nine.
Oh, okay, so it was in the1900s, yep Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So it went for over 100 years before it became legal
Right.
It became illegal.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Okay, ah, in the 1900s, who would be the
president, right, I'll give youthat Okay and this easy one.
Once you hear the name, you'llbe like oh yeah, now I know I'm
trying to think what presidentout there really liked beer.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I'm just going to Jimmy Carter, because Billy Beer
.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
No, that's my guess.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yes, woo-hoo, did you get my notes?
Nope, I pulled that one Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
The only reason I thought that is because his
brother had that Billy Beer orsomebody made it Billy.
Beer.
So, man, that was the 1970s 78.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, late 70s, president Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Wow, wow.
Hey, urban Growler, thanks forgetting my thinker thinking.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Man, that was a good.
I didn't think you'd get that,but that's congratulations.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
When you said, once you hear, I thought okay, the
only president, because I'mtrying to think okay, do I know
a president that drank a lot ofbeer?
They never really say that Idon't think he drank a lot, but
I think his correct.
But the only one I knewanything that had any kind of
tie to beer was his brother.
Yep, Because there's still.
I know you can find onlinewhere people still have those
full.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh, I do have a can.
Oh, do you, you got the can?
Open it from the bottom, fromthe bottom, yep.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So that's pretty crazy.
Yes, nice, so I get like 1,000points for that.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You got one, so 298.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
If I wouldn't have asked those hints.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I'd have got 1,000, right, Yep see but see, you got
it right though Dang.
So you've actually got 50% onone question and one question
right, an entire one, right yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I don't know what's going on, jim Wow must be the
beer.
It could be, I don't know.
Well, what do we got up next?
Well, the next one we have, andthis one when brought it out,
it did surprise me, because thisis our first Marzon beer of the
season, and this is by BentPaddle and it says a Marzon
Party Lager.
Have we had one of those before?
(25:49):
I'm not sure.
This is Munchen Pretzels.
Nice you know it's supposed tobe Munchen Pretzels, but it's
spelled like Munich MunchenPretzels.
And this is Bent Paddle BrewingCompany and they're in Duluth,
minnesota, and it is.
Is it 6%?
Yep, I got 18 IBUs, okay.
Does it say on the can anythinghere?
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Roll out the barrel with ourMarzon Party Lager, a festive
blend of German hops and malts.
Polka in your stein.
Serve with pretzels Prost.
Now we're getting close.
Jim informed me that heactually was able to find some
new.
Well, some 2025.
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Oktoberfest, oktoberfest.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So we're going to have our third annual August
Oktoberfest will be coming up.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
It won't be long, won't be long.
So did you have any otherlineup on this one, won't?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
be long, won't be long.
So did you have any otherlineup on this one?
So it says the Munchen Pretzelis a classic Marzon Bayer.
Marzon beer, bayer Bayer thatboasts a rich amber color and a
medium-bodied mouthfeel.
Brewed with traditional Germanmalts and hops, this beer offers
a perfect balance of sweetnessand bitterness.
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The aroma is characterized bynotes of toasted bread, caramel
and a hint of spicy hops A hint,hint.
The flavor profile is dominatedby a delicious bready malt
character with hints of caramel,making it an excellent choice
to pair with traditional Germancuisine, especially soft
(27:23):
pretzels and sausages.
Nice, prost, prost, awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So let's hope that right up there we had a pretty
good talking lot there, so thisshould be exciting to get our
first taste of a.
So this is almost likepre-season right, yeah.
This is our pre-season for ourAugust Toberfest here.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, this might be the second darkest beer we've
had today.
This is definitely dark.
The Oktoberfests aren't usuallythis dark, are they?
Maybe not quite this dark, butit's close, close.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
yeah, it has that faint Oktoberfesty type.
You know what I mean, reallyfaint.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Very faint.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's the one thing so far with all these.
They've been pretty faint yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
That's the one thing so far with all these.
They've been pretty faint, yeah, not much for aroma, kind of
Very.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
The mouthfeel is definitely smooth.
I don't mind that Flavor-wise.
So far on the first it didn'treally jump out.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, it tastes almost sweeter, though it's like the
sweetest one we've had today Alittle bit yeah.
Yeah, I would agree with you.
Yeah, but I don't know what,actually.
I don't know what soggy toastedbread tastes like.
I don't know if that's a goodthing.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Usually, if the bread is soggy, I throw it away.
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Sometimes it may not be the best choice of words to
like describe your beer, butyeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
it does get me in the mood, though, to get into some
Oktoberfest.
Yeah, but it's just.
The flavor is just a little bitmuted for me for being a Marzan
, but it's definitely drinkable.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I guess you know we talked
about how, the urban growler,you could really taste their
different flavors.
This one, I don't know if Idon't taste spicy hops, no, I
don't.
The toasted bread, the, maybe,the caramel, maybe maybe that's
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a little disappointing.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, I mean, I know before I've talked about it that
Oktoberfests are all across theboard.
On the flavor there's notreally.
You know, a lot of times youget an amber, you kind of get
every amber has a somewhat atleast a hint of the similar
flavor, right, you know?
Or something like that, whereOktoberfests are just all over,
all over.
You can't one tastes completelydifferent than another and this
is a party lager, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So that's.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I don't know if there's a difference there,
right?
So we don't know that.
That's the one thing I wouldlike to know.
If is a Marzen party lagerdifferent than just a Marzen,
very good question.
I don't know that.
It's again.
I think somebody that's neverhad an Oktoberfest they could
drink this one, yeah.
Because I mean it is prettymellow yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You're not going to get scared away by it.
No, no.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Because you know some of the Oktoberfests we've had
in the past, they have some thathave really kind of a bite to
them, right, you know, and otherones definitely taste more on
the lager end and I don't know.
This one is pretty I don't wantto say nondescript, but it's
very mellow, easy drinking.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Right, it's probably right in the middle of all the
Marzan flavors.
I think you're right.
It's like right down.
I'm actually going to go onestep.
I'm going to say a 2.3.
I'm sorry, 2.4.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Real close to the middle for me.
Yeah, I'm going to go.
I kind of have a preconceivedthought of it should be kind of
in this type of a range offlavors, and this one is very
good.
If you've never had anOktoberfest, you could
definitely drink this.
Yes, but for you and I and kindof our group of people that are
definitely into craft beer,they'd all be kind of like, okay
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, can we try a different one,right?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Just because it's very mellow, yes, you know, so
no doubt about that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
But it's, it's, it's good.
I wouldn't if that's allsomebody hadn't said hey, you
want one of these, sure, I'lltake one, you know.
But yeah, I think, I thinkwe'll get into some more higher
on the scale.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
So it's probably a good thing.
This wasn't competing againstthe other ones, it was
standalone, correct?
I think you're right, and thismay not be then the summer beer
that we thought maybe we couldadd to this category.
Oh sure Well.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I think you know, I'm kind of learning.
I think, well, same with thePorter.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Maybe it's early fall .
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, late summer, early fall, that we went from 4.
What was the first one?
4.6 or 4.9?
4.9.
And we're at 6 now.
Yes, our thing was it's lowerABV, right.
Yes, and 6%.
I know some people think 6% ispretty high, but it's just
scratching the surface.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yes, we, we got some.
Well, these are all.
These are actually.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, All of these are lower 6% or under 6% or
under.
Yeah, yep, so we have two morethat are 6% as well.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
And it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I'm not going to lie.
I think the last two are goingto definitely be an interesting
to see how they are, you know,compared to all these other ones
.
So I'm, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
All right Is well.
I know there is a place becausethey told me about it.
Name the location where you cancombine your love of beer with
your love of athletics, my loveof beer.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
with my love athletics, or you mean with
athletics, athletics.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Because that could be a whole different thing,
because this place has a poolfilled with beer.
What?
Which is not only a novelty,but is also said to have
benefits for your skin.
So where is this?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
at, so you can go somewhere and swim in a pool
full of beer.
Yep, where in the world wouldthat be?
Okay?
It could be two possibilities.
Is it in the United States?
No, okay, that rules out theone.
You're wanting the actuallocation or just the country.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I have the name of the brewery, the city and the
country name.
Oh my word.
So you can try any one of thethree.
Swim in a pool of beer, and Idon't think we've had a beer
from there either.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Oh, that makes it even more difficult Boy country.
I'm just going to throw outGermany.
It's wrong, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You were close you were close Guam.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Is it because it starts with a G?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
or what so it's actually at Starkenberger
brewery okay, in turenz, austriaoh, I was close.
I know, I said I was thinking.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So my other one, jim, that I was thinking, because
there's is it brew dogs,somebody?
They have a hotel and I know Ithink you've seen it online as
well okay, because I've seen iton like social media there's a
hotel where you can you staythere and it's hooked to a
brewery and there's beer in yourroom and you've got.
I mean, it's just, it's likethis whole beer thing.
So I thought, okay, maybethat's you know they have a
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swimming pool full of beer.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You know it wouldn't have shocked me, but apparently
and I didn't know this beer isrich in calcium and other
vitamins that help with skinconditions, and hops have a
calming agent to help you relax.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Well, I know my brother always said if you catch
you feel like you're catching acold you're supposed to drink
six IPAs.
Oh, and that's supposed to helpbecause of the.
You know the properties of thehops.
And I said, well, is it that?
Or after six beers you'regetting drunk, so you really
don't care how you feel.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Then you go to sleep no matter what Exactly
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So in Austria that's pretty wild.
Yeah, like I said, I don'trecognize the name of the
brewery, so we may not have everhad something from them.
And they said also, you're notsupposed to drink from the pool.
Just FYI.
I was going to say how are yougoing to know if somebody pees
in the pool?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Right, and plus it's probably not as cold as what
we're drinking, I'm guessing notBoy.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
you just ruined my dream there, I guess.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But it still is available.
Okay, so if we're ever inAustria, we can go there and
swim in the beer pool, All right.
So what do we have last?
We got two to go, dude.
Two to go.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Now, we've had some very good beers from this
brewery before, but they'veusually been on the higher ABV
side, so I'm kind of intriguedby this one.
This is by Prairie artisan ales.
This is their albino rhino,really, yes.
And this is a white stout withcacao nibs, vanilla and coffee,
(35:10):
and this is is it's six percentabv as well.
Yep, now the artwork on the canis a bunch of different colored
rhinos and one is white, yes,with a baseball cap on it.
So Different, different, yes,very artsy looking can.
So did.
Were you able to find no?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
no that's all it had.
All right it just says a whitestout with cacao, vanilla and
coffee.
All right.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Well, we'll crack into it.
Let's see what happens.
I'm real interested.
You know, we've had, like theDragon's Mill White Stout.
We've had a few White Stoutsand they usually have more of a
vanilla flavor to them.
And I'm excited to see how theydo on this, because their other
actual stouts are very good andit's definitely not a darker
stout.
No, it looks like a white stout.
You know it's like that.
A little bit darker than apilsner color.
Right, you know whitehead.
(36:03):
Again, I'm not getting a huge.
I can smell coffee on the aroma.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Very, very faint.
It's not strong aroma.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
No, there's something there, I get the vanilla.
Is that coffee?
I get the coffee for sure, thecocoa Cacao, the cacao.
Well, I suppose that's probablythe coffee.
I think is probably covering upmore of that, but I do get
vanilla in the coffee.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
It's not bad, though.
I mean it's okay, it's just,the flavors are really competing
with each other.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Very smooth though Interesting.
This is like one of the fewones I've seen where they've had
that has been in a can Right.
Most of their beers are in thebottles Right Like the Bomb, and
the Deconstructed Bomb, theBomb, the Deconstructed Bomb,
the Birthday Bomb, the Christmas.
Bomb, you know all that stuff,and they do a good job Right,
very good job.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
So this one.
It's interesting.
Different.
Do you get the?
Yeah, I've never heard of thisone before.
It's possible this might be asummertime beer.
Just by the color it could be.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
And the flavor is good, but it definitely has a
little bit of a stronger coffeeflavor, right?
So I think some of our friendswould be like, oh, coffee and
cigarettes.
So you might have to have thiswhen you first wake up, right?
Like I said, I do get thecoffee, I get the vanilla.
I don't really pick up thechocolate from the cacao nibs no
(37:18):
, up the chocolate from thecacao nibs no.
But I think the coffee probablykind of masks some of that.
Right, I'm gonna go a 2.7 onthis one.
I do like it, but I do wish thatit maybe it was a little more
vanilla and just a little bitless of the coffee, you know.
And then it would be kind ofright in line with all those
other white stouts that we'vehad, right, you know, and I do
like that flavor.
So this is.
But hey, prairie Artisan Ale,this is a good beer, mm-hmm, you
(37:41):
know.
And I think the only thing, Ithink a new person would be like
boy, if they don't like coffee,they're not going to like it,
because it is very strong in acoffee flavor.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I echo everything you're saying.
I would even, maybe, evenemphasize, maybe drop the coffee
flavor a little bit, add alittle bit more cacao and
vanilla.
It'd be spot on.
Yep, perfect, yep.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
So I think I'm actually going to go with the
same score.
I'm going to say a 2.7.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I like, like it just Not bad, you know, and I guess
it's good to see that they cando lower stuff, abv stuff too.
Yes, you know because most oftheir stuff is Strong.
That you know 9, 10.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
There's a lot of it's barrel aged.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Oh yeah, so yeah they do a lot of barrel aging stuff
too, so so I was going to giveyou an update on your points.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Okay, so that one question, the Iceland question,
really tanked you right therebecause you were doing so good,
I was doing so good.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
So now you're only down 297.5 points.
Oh, that's not bad.
It's better than I normally do,right?
So here we'll end this episodewith an easy question for you.
Okay, why did the pilgrims landat Plymouth Rock?
Why did?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
they land at Plymouth Rock.
Yes and yeah.
Any fourth graders yelling atme right now going really, Are
you smarter than a fifth grader?
Probably not.
It's been a long time since Iwas in fifth grade, Uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It wasn't last year.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
No, that was the toughest two years of my life.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
No, I'm joking, I'm joking.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Why did they land at Plymouth Rock?
I have no idea.
They ran out of beer.
Oh I should have known that.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
What kind of podcast are we doing?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh my gosh, Wait, let's do this over.
Take two what was the?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
question.
That's a minus 500, becausethat one was too easy.
Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I thought well, how in the world I don't know if
there's a wind blew in there?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I don't know if there's a wind blew them there.
I don't know.
Gosh, I thought you had thatone easy.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, I totally dropped the ball on that one
because they ran out of beer.
I was going to say to get tothe other side first.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I might even give you a little credit for that one.
Yeah, so this one even soundsgood.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I think, dude, now this is kind of crazy.
Okay, so this is a mead, a mead, a mead.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Okay, and honey, you're going well, wait a minute
.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You know this is an easy drink in lower ABV class.
Yep, and that's what this is.
Now here's the second thingthat confuses me.
Okay, it's barrel aged, barrelaged, a barrel aged mead, that
is 6% ABV.
And is it aged in bourbonbarrels?
That I don't know.
The writing on here is kind ofsmall.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh, I don't know if you found anything on it.
All it says is barrel Inbarrels, six months.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
We don't know what kind of barrel, but it was six
months.
Yes, this is now.
We've had other ones of these.
Okay, this is by CraftedArtisan Ales or Meadry.
I should say I apologize, but Iapologize, but this is their
maple pecan pie.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Ooh, Now we've struggled to get a good pecan,
haven't we?
We have.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Pecan-flavored beer.
Now, if this tastes like pecanpie, I'll be in heaven.
Okay, so we'll find out Now.
Did you find anything?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I don't know.
All I got was so it saysSession, but is that right?
Session Mead?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It could be yeah, because it's a lower ABV,
because meads are typicallyhigher in.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
ABV Session mead with maple pecans.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Well, I don't want to talk over you, but your opener
is an opening All right.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Oh, I got it.
Oh, you got to be smarter thana tool.
So we got maple, pecans andnatural flavors.
That's all it says.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
All right, it looks like a mead, it's light.
I mean, it's definitely alighter, very light in color, in
color.
Yes, boy, this is going to bein our oh what's on the back?
One more slice, please.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Oh, one more slice of the pie, of the pie, what
smells like honey to me?
I was going to say I don't geta whole lot of.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Is that honey that I smell?
I think so, but that's whatmead is made out of.
Yes, so we should probablysmell that.
I don't taste pecan pie at all,but I get the barrel I can take
well on the finish, hang on.
There's something sweet inthere All of a sudden.
It's like wait a second.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I thought it was like a cider at first, right cider.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
It almost has that flavor Boy and, like I said it's
.
I'm just trying to read on thebottle here.
It doesn't, yeah, it doesn'tsay I get the barrel, you get
that barrel flavor.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
What kind of what are you tasting?
What barrel flavor?
What type of?
Speaker 1 (42:07):
barrel.
It is almost.
It's almost a super faintbourbon barrel, is it?
But you know, I mean you getthat oaky, so maybe just an oak
barrel maybe it could be just anoak barrel, because it doesn't
say a liquor was aged in thatbarrel, right.
Because typically if there'sbourbon they're going to say
bourbon.
They may not tell you whatbrand, but it'll say bourbon,
right.
So this could be just in oakbarrels, but I do get that
(42:28):
flavor.
It's not bad, I guess.
No, I mean it's different.
I can safely say I don't thinkwe've ever had a barrel-aged
beer.
That was 6%.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I would almost guarantee that we haven't,
because every time that I guesswhat we found if somebody's
going to take the time tobarrel-age it, they're going to
increase the ABV.
I think that's usually what wefound Yep At least nine, if not
double digits percent.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Man, I don't taste maple pecan pie.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
No, I don't really get a maple flavor even no,
that's what I thought it was.
It almost at first that veryfirst sip tasted like one of
those apple ciders.
To me it was a little sweeterbecause my teeth were actually
hurt, you know from thesweetness Right it was not over
the top, but I mean just alittle bit sweet I mean.
So it's not bad, it's just Idon't get the flavors that they
were telling me were going to bethere.
That's the hard part.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I agree with you.
Like I said, I'd taste thatbarrel.
Now you know, is it okay?
Did they age maple syrup in abarrel?
I don't know, but I'm notgetting.
Typically, when you have amaple syrup, beer or whatever,
you definitely taste that.
I don't taste that.
I get that hint of the barreland then I just get the
sweetness yes, like you said, ofmore of a cider.
(43:38):
And I don't know if I taste apecan either.
No, I don't taste pecan.
I don't taste pecan pie at all.
No, gosh.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I was.
You know, I was kind of looking.
This is the last one.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I was like man, this is like going to be the cherry
on top of the episode.
Again, I was just like I stilllike it.
I'm not saying that it's bad,but it's different than what I
was hoping it was going to be.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yes, I know exactly.
I mean, and I mean we haven'tdone on the podcast, we haven't
done a lot of meads.
So I mean it's nothing againstmeads, right.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I mean they definitely have a different
flavor how they're made, they'rebuilt, constructed, so BK and I
did a podcast on meads and thatwas the first one that we did
Right.
This one yeah, like I said, I'mgoing to have some more, but I
just wish it tasted like pecanpie, you know, or maple, or
something you know Right.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I was so looking forward to that barrel-aged
maple pecan pie.
I mean, the way those words arekind of has you salivating,
like, oh, this is going to begood, exactly, and the bottle
has a.
It's a unique shaped bottle too, so I was like they did extra
work on the bottle.
I mean the flavors.
I was like, oh shoot, yep, thisis probably the, for me,
(44:53):
probably the biggestdisappointment of today's class
Right, probably the biggestdisappointment of today's class.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Right, yeah, I would say you know.
Going back to the, if it's onthe label, it should be in the
can or bottle.
You know?
Maple, I don't get maple.
I don't get pecan, I don't getpecan pie.
I don't, you know I do get thebarrel a little bit.
I still like it because it'sdifferent than the other crafted
ones that we've had Right andcrafted crafted ones that we've
(45:23):
had right and crafted does.
All their stuff is that I'vehad so far is all right at six
percent, okay, so they make it.
So pretty much anybody candrink it, which is cool, don't
get me wrong, but but I again itshould be in there and what do
you that is disappointing boy.
what do I give it for a score?
Because I I do like the flavor,but if it tasted like maple
pecan pie it would have beenreally good, really good.
This could have been the bestone of the day.
I'm going to go a 2.5.
It's average Average scoreright down the middle.
(45:44):
Just because of that I like theflavor.
It has a sweetness.
I do think a lot of peoplecould drink it, but we're more.
I guess you could say sticklerson if it says that and that's
the big on the label maple pecanpie.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
That's why people would buy this Correct.
That's why I bought it Rightbecause of what it says on the
bottle and what it's going totaste like Yep.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
So, yeah, I like the flavor, but I got to knock it to
a 2.5, which is average, butit's because it had so much
potential.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
I'm going to echo right with you.
2.5 I mean I was.
It's my biggest disappointment.
Not because it tastes bad, butbecause I had such high
anticipation of what it said onthe outside of the bottle that
it was going to actually tastelike, because all those flavors
are really good.
I was so looking forward tohaving that, those flavors with
me.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
So that's I agree real close, yep, so overall it
was an interesting class.
Yes, like I said, it was you.
It was all over the board forstyles.
We didn't have anything thesame we had nothing the same, so
that was cool.
Yes, like I said, the commonwas 4.9% to 6% ABV.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Low ABV.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
And basically anybody could drink them Right.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah, we had no stinkers.
No, I mean, none of them werebad, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
For me.
Bad, exactly.
Uh, for me I would still saythat the vanilla latte was my
number one.
Again, I just think that flavorwas outstanding, really good.
You know, uh, they could havetweaked it just a little bit,
but not, they didn't have totweak it much at all to be
really good, or put it in abarrel, it could be in the
running for a beer of the year,so we're just throwing that out
there.
Urban growler, if you need a prostaff, please email us.
And the other ones I guess youknow I did like their porter.
(47:21):
The albino rhino kind of wassuper close.
It was close that one needed tobe tweaked a little bit, you
know, and I did still enjoy themaple pecan pie, but it just
wasn't what it said.
But if I had to pick to me theclear number one was that
vanilla latte blonde.
(47:42):
But like I said, the nice thingis anybody could drink any of
these and I would not be ashamedto recommend any of these
honestly to somebody that reallyhasn't drank a lot of that
style.
Right, I guess the only onewould probably be the porter,
just because it definitely ithad that porter flavor, and I
think the malt.
If a person has never had it,they might be like oh you know,
(48:04):
that's too strong For us.
It was totally fine, you know.
So yeah, I guess that's kind ofmy consensus for this class.
What'd you think?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, clear number one hands down was the vanilla
latte.
That was really really goodbeer.
Highly recommend that one foranybody, whether you're a novice
or a seasoned craft beerdrinker.
That one was really good.
The other ones again, they'reall.
We had such a big variety.
We didn't have anything incommon other than we're just
trying them today.
Right, there wasn't.
(48:32):
So they're all kind of standalone on themselves and they're
all very good beers which Idon't think anybody would get
scared of drinking craft beer byany of them.
But my clear number one was avanilla latte, I think.
My number two, I did like theporter and I did like the rhino
albino.
Yeah, so those three areprobably at the top, but then
just a half a step below werethe other three.
(48:54):
Yeah, all were still good.
I'm glad we tried them and I'mglad we I mean cause this is
good just to have a big variety.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah, exactly, and, like I said, our whole point of
this class was just so manydifferent styles that you can
get in a lower ABV.
Right, you know, so they'rereally.
If you're just getting intocraft beer, you can try any.
Basically any style out thereis going to have a lower ABV
representation, and you canstart there and then work your
way into some some higher stuff.
Yes, for sure, you know.
(49:20):
So.
Yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
So what do we do?
We know, or have you thoughtabout what might be in the next
episode?
Speaker 1 (49:26):
Well, you know we're, we've done too many of these
low ABV things.
I think, Okay, I think we'regoing to.
We got to put our.
We're going to jump her up, Ithink in the next one, but then
after that, then we're going tostart breaking into Oktoberfest
stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Okay, all right.
It smells like that might be inthe air.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
It smells like it's getting closer to being in the
air, because we just had one,yeah, and, like I said, this
would be our third annualAugustoberfest, all right, so
hopefully we can keep.
I know you said you had found anumber of them, so I'm looking
forward to that.
I'm looking, you know, thisfall, of course I'm looking
forward to.
We've got to find pumpkin beers, right, you know that's always
(50:03):
good.
And then we get into the barrelage stuff we might have to do
that again, huh.
Yeah, I know you don't like to.
You're going to force us to dothat we may have to do and I
both have a lot.
We'll just say a lot.
Looking at my bar how many?
Speaker 2 (50:18):
boxes.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, in my basement and I've got three fridges of
beer and I don't have enoughroom for all of that stuff.
Yeah it's a lot, so we're goingto wrap up this easy drinking
thing with this episode, andthen we'll just kind of see
where it takes us.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Let's see how it goes .
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Well, awesome, well, hey.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank youso much for listening to us.
Please go out, visit any craftbrewery, go to a store, buy a
craft beer and just start tryingit.
Support local.
The money stays local, you know, that's always a good thing,
yes, and you know, keeplistening, there you go so hey,
like we always say, weCampfire's always warm and your
beers are always cold, see ya.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
See ya.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
Thank you for listening to the Northwoods Beer
Guy podcast.
If you have a question, acomment or a beer you'd like us
to review, please feel free tosend us a message at
northwoodsbeerguy at gmailcom.
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Until next week, I hope allyour campfires are warm and all
(51:17):
your beer is cold.
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