December 6, 2023 • 52 mins
Do you ever feel disconnected, 'othered', or not quite fitting into the societal norms? We've all been there. In fact, our guest today, the incredible Chelsea Camin, a past life witch, once felt the same. She took us on an incredible journey of spiritual awakening, self-discovery, and authenticity, inspiring us with her courage to break free from an oppressive education system and the societal norms that held her back from realizing her true potential.
Chelsea deftly guided us to explore the depths of our inner genius and the witch wound, navigating the complex world of imposter syndrome. She shed light on the significance of honing our unique gifts, embracing authenticity, and finding the right community. With her valuable insights into overcoming fears and fostering self-acceptance, Chelsea helped us better understand the power we all hold within ourselves and how we can utilize it to transform our lives.
Lastly, we delved into the intriguing world of past life work and its integration into daily life, with Chelsea sharing her transformative experiences with candle magic. We also discussed practical ways to protect our spiritual wellbeing in the online space and the importance of setting boundaries. Wrapping up our journey, Chelsea reflected on the intricacies of being a healer and the desire to be 'normal.' In an episode filled with wisdom and inspiration, Chelsea's story is a brilliant reminder of the joy that comes from embracing our true selves. Don't miss out on this empowering conversation!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Ode to Joy podcast, a show where we
talk about joy how do wecultivate it, how do we maintain
it and what are the things thatget in the way.
I'm your host, shamanicDeathdula Alana Box, and we are
talking with the past life witch, chelsea Kemen, all about her
internal muse, or inner genius.
(00:21):
I'm so excited for you to havea listen.
I hope you enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hello and welcome back to the Ode to Joy podcast.
I'm your host, alana Box, andit is my sincere pleasure to
invite my friend Chelsea Kemento the show.
Welcome, chelsea.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm so happy to be here, yes, I'm so happy you're
here as well, and I'm so happythat we were connected through
the wonderful world of Instagramand social media.
I know I just love everythingthat you share and everything
that you do, so it's such apleasure to bring you on to the
show.
So if you could just drop us into where you are, let our
(01:08):
listener know where are youjoining us from today?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So I am here in Fort Wayne, Indiana, but I am from
New York.
I'm from Long Island.
You have a strong island girl.
I am a strong island girl.
I grew up in Garden City Southand, yeah, Nassau County baby
the 516, if you're familiar andby way of many events in the
(01:36):
last few years, we found our wayto Indiana, mostly for my birth
of this business and to getsome healing.
So, yeah, it's been quite ajourney, since around like 2019
or so.
But, yeah, now we're here inIndiana and it's been nice.
(01:56):
It's been a really good respitefor me.
They say you can't heal in theenvironment.
You got sick.
So taking a little pause fromNew York life and being here has
been really healing andinstrumental in a lot of my own
personal growth.
So it's been really good.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Mm-mm-mm.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm so excited to get into that with you today I know
it's the topic everyone wantsto hear.
They're like how did you makeit to Fort Wayne, Are?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
you there.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, we could get right into it.
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We're going right into it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I get what's I've been in.
So, yes, I'm joining from LongIsland, north Shore, nassau
County and repping that 516 also, so it's just so nice to have a
familiar voice come on to theshow.
Yeah, yeah, and I also getneeding to.
I want to say extricate oneselffrom the space where you were
(02:57):
raised, because I think I'vealways indulged in expanding my
awareness of other cultures andtravel and places, because it
gives good perspective.
Perspective yeah, and then Icome back home and I go OK.
So how can I serve?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Right, how can I integrate?
How can I integrate what I'velearned and bring it back to the
community that I love?
Yeah, I resonate with that.
For sure, for sure, yeah, so itall started.
I was always a very spiritualkid.
I was that kind of child.
I was mostly very bullied andthings like that.
So I find when you suffer fromsome sort of oppression in your
(03:34):
school system, you go inwardmore than most kids do, right,
you search for meaning, yousearch for understanding and you
search for validation.
And so it started way back whenI was a kid.
Really, I had to become very intune with myself and understand
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why oppression happens and whyother people don't speak out and
all of that.
So this is kind of like thebasis of my heart, where I've
always stood and who I am, andcouple that with my upbringing,
where I was raised by a Jewishmother and an Italian Catholic
father and I grew up in a systemwhere there was where I felt
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othered or like the outsiderwithin my community which was
quite Italian at the time andfeeling that opposition within
my community there and thenfeeling opposition within my
mother's community as well.
So I never felt like I fit in.
So by the time I was around 10years old, I had proclaimed that
(04:42):
I was a witch and that I wasgoing to always be like this.
I was going to always.
And I was, of course, born onHalloween.
So it all, you know, it allchecked out in my kid mind.
I'm like, well, it was ablueprint for me.
And, of course, you know thenmy parents being who they were,
the generation, everythingthey're like.
You're not a witch, you'recrazy.
(05:04):
So over time, I went and got amusic degree.
I studied the arts.
I got two music educationdegrees.
I fully stepped my feet intowhat it meant to be a music
educator.
I went to Teachers College inNew York City, which is
affiliated with ColumbiaUniversity.
I did the thing Like I went,you know, as far as I could to
(05:27):
show that I could do this, thatI could, I could win capitalism.
Look at me, you know like I feltlike I was very much just
assimilating as much as I couldand, you know, kept saying it
was for the love of music andfor the love of art and for the
love of children and everything.
But deep down I was veryunhappy, and I knew this in my
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undergrad, that I didn't want todo this.
I knew this in my master's,that I didn't want to do this.
But I felt, if I kept studyingand I kept believing in the core
of it, which was I love thearts and I love serving children
.
But there was something.
When you put those two togetherand put it in a system, I
didn't want to work in thatsystem, I didn't want to work in
the education system.
It felt again like anotheroppression to me.
(06:09):
It felt like another thing thatI had to fit in the box to and
I just couldn't do it.
And this is partially becauseI'm neurodivergent.
I just and I give that, I givethat to myself.
You know, I know that I'm notgoing to assimilate as easily
with other people, because Ithink very critically and I see,
I see the lack in systems andfor me it hurt more to be in
(06:29):
those systems because I had toabide by them where I felt like
it didn't align with the child'spurpose, the child's spirit,
the child.
So it's always been like Ireally don't like seeing people
controlled.
So if all of these things are atmy core and as I'm going
through awakenings, I'mrealizing like my true nature is
to be a healer, is to besomeone that connects to
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humanity and takes care of it.
But how does this fit in ourWestern culture, how does this
fit into our world?
And the answer is it reallydoesn't.
I'm.
I'm looked at like I am such anoddball right.
So over time it really was notso much like oh, I found this,
but oh, I came home to it.
So it was like I steppedoutside myself to find parts of
(07:16):
me that were palatable for theuniverse, for whomever was
watching me.
And as I got more and morecomfortable with who I truly was
, my authentic self, I startedto really like peel away those
layers and I realized, like asmy healer self, as a
regressionist, as a hypnosis, ahypnotist, as you know, as
someone doing all of thesehealing modalities like that is
(07:38):
my truest expression.
And I still have a couple ofvoice students, I have to say.
Still, I still do have a coupleof voice students on the side,
but it's because I get to nowcarry out my exact values and
mission and beliefs through allthe work that feels so good to
me.
So for a very long time I I hada really thriving business on
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the North Shore of SuffolkCounty.
I had been really catering toeveryone in, like Huntington and
Lloyd Neck, and so it was inthat, in those spaces, that I
was, you know, creating a namefor myself.
I was doing really well there,but there was no way to scale.
It was just me and I could feelthe pressures after the
(08:20):
pandemic.
We just had a baby girl in 2019.
So I had to really readjustwhat I was bringing to the table
and what my husband wasbringing to the table.
And for the first couple ofyears, because of the pandemic,
my husband was the solecaregiver and I was working.
Because of how successful mybusiness was and just the way it
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worked out, we didn't feelcomfortable putting her in a
daycare.
We didn't feel comfortable withcertain things that would be,
you know, something where shecould take home illness and we
wanted to keep her safe,especially her being our first
child.
So through a series of all ofthese you know, trial, trial by
fire, right it got to the pointwhere I just couldn't resist it
anymore.
I got to that breaking point,that dark night, and then it
(09:04):
just came to like a lot ofthings come to me in visions and
then I share it with my husbandand then we make it work
together.
But this came as a huge visionthat I had to.
We had to move, we had to makethis decision so he could find
work here.
Because we're all musicians,we're musically trained, so
there's sweet water here.
If you're familiar with, it'spretty big like music business.
(09:27):
It's just, it's fine.
It's mostly online but likepeople that are like real,
really in the music scene.
They're like yes, I know it.
So it afforded me the abilityto now switch roles a little bit
and also expand my spiritualbusiness.
But I was still afraid.
But it got to a point where Ithen joined a marketing group
(09:49):
and it was called Witch andFamous with Captolia and I
joined that as a voice teacherstill and I was like it was like
I was just trying so hard tokeep making it work and
eventually I just had doneseveral sessions in a week of
regressions and healing sessionsand I was like who are we
(10:11):
kidding now?
Like I can't.
There is an undeniable now,like there is not.
It got to the point where I hadso far past that apprentice
stage.
I had so passed that impostersyndrome.
I for real, I knew I couldchannel past lives.
I was right there with thepeople I had now had hundreds of
(10:35):
testimonials from peopletelling me like, oh my God, this
is spot on, your work is spoton.
And at what point do I keepdenying myself?
Because I'm afraid of how I'llbe perceived.
And it just got souncomfortable for me, basically
got so uncomfortable.
I just couldn't shut myself offanymore.
I had to share that this iswhat I do and, yes, it created
(10:59):
some confusion and a lot ofpeople that had me as a voice
teacher, like the parents of thestudents, they're struggling.
They were struggling tounderstand this change.
They're struggling tounderstand.
But it's really.
It's not that I've changed,it's an uncovering.
And so, like you see now, myheart, my beliefs, everything
right out on paper now or onyour screen, and it's who I
(11:23):
always was.
So it only shows me, as peoplereject me or don't feel
comfortable to change.
I realized that really what Iwas doing was I was just making
myself palatable.
I wasn't.
I didn't change necessarily, Ijust allowed myself to express
myself more.
So that is the longest shortstory ever.
(11:44):
I didn't like that, but it'sthis coming in.
This is what a calling trulyfeels like.
Like you know, I used to thinklike how do nuns know?
How do they know when it's time?
And I felt this way just thispast summer, this real call to
just stop faking it, stop tryingto be something you're not
(12:04):
anymore, because I was dilutingmy message, I was diluting
myself and I could only serve aportion of the population, and I
was just so ready to serve nowon a global scale, but also just
on my global scale, like toserve all parts of me, and so
that's how I'm where I'm atright now I love it because,
(12:27):
like literally, in this time ofyou sharing.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm like cool, so that's all my questions.
Thanks so much.
Thanks for coming on the show,but like there's so many, I have
so many questions, let's talk.
Let's talk, I'll pick them.
Thanks so much for coming.
No, I mean, that's.
The thing is like there's somany questions that I had as you
were just talking and I'm socurious.
Yeah, so I love that you've justfully stepped into and you're
(12:52):
embracing this role, as I didn'teven say your name in the
beginning.
You're the past life witch,which I am the past life, she's
the past life witch and I'd loveto, yeah, bring it back to
really like the beginning.
So I love that you mentionedthat, like you had this
blueprint over you.
So, bringing it back to thetopic of the day, the muse, the
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inner genius.
All of us are born with thissort of like inner genius, inner
muse, this gift essentially,that almost operates as this, I
want to say, like sort ofspiritual sidekick, you could
say.
And there's a lot of readingthat one could do about this.
Some people call it the daemon,the inner daemon.
So it's like I believe all ofus have this and I'm just so
(13:37):
curious about people and theirjourney of like how they embrace
it, how they nurture it at thetimes when perhaps they've
rejected it, and how to reallylike have the kind of
relationship with it, thatyou're in sort of constant
communication with it and, in away, serving that inner muse and
that inner daemon.
So I want to bring it back tobaby you and obviously, like you
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knew, coming in you were likeall right, so cool, I'm born on
Halloween, so like this is who Iam everybody.
And I'm just curious, likebring us back to like was there
a moment that it came into youor is it something you always
knew?
Like when did you sort of firstclock that this was who you are
?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I definitely knew.
I remember myself coming intolike conscious awareness that I
was doing things differently.
Because, well, one, I likedFunny Girl but that's another
story In around like fourth,fifth grade, oh yeah, oh yeah,
funny Girl was like my top movie.
And I knew that when I wassitting in class and I'm like
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Funny Girl is my favorite movieand everybody else was like
Terminator, this, so yeah.
So I knew already I was anartsy little gal.
But when I would feel stressed,I innately knew I would go up to
this little room upstairs thatreally was used as like a, you
know, let's put all the presentsin that room and like it was
(15:05):
just like an extra room, right,which is a luxury these days,
but anyway.
So we had this extra room, Iwould put on Anya and I would
put on my favorite little likebell bottom yoga pants, which at
the time they weren't calledyoga pants, it was 1998.
And I would put this on and Iwould meditate and I would do my
own form of yoga.
(15:25):
And I didn't realize that thatwas what it was, but I used
elements that you know, peoplein their 30s just come to learn.
And I was doing itinstinctually, instinctively.
I was already, you know, doingmy own sort of yoga and
listening to things, and I couldfeel my spirit want to slow
(15:47):
down like this.
I could feel myself, you know,even when I had like later days
and I was a kid I would liketake a bath and like relax, and
it's like I knew how to do allthese things.
I knew how to comfort myselfwithout giving, without being
given any true like tools.
I had never been told how torelax, I'd never been told about
(16:07):
yoga or anything like that, soI was finding it all on my own.
It got to a point where it'sfunny.
But a friend of mine, you know Idon't know if she truly knew
this, but I was in, you know, Iwas in fifth grade and I was 10.
And she was like Chelsea, Ithink you're a witch, and
something with her saying thatresonated with me, even though
to this day I don't know if shepractices anymore or anything,
(16:30):
or if we would just like teenwitches, you know, like being
funny, right, right, I'm.
I was like, oh, I'm stillpracticing, I'm.
I just took that and I ran withit.
But I had also shunned it forsome time until I got to be an
adult, and when I did eventuallyshare that, like I was doing
professional witchery, my familywas actually like, oddly okay.
(16:50):
They were like listen, you'rean adult, you can make your own
choices, things like that.
But it was definitely somethingthat's hard for people who are
like you just got your mastersat Columbia.
It's, it's confusing for a lotof people and I think you know,
I think there's a certain subsetof people that will think you
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know, you've totally lost yourmind.
And then other people whoreally get it who are like oh
yeah, okay, she tried the thingand then she woke up and you
know so.
So there's that part too.
But yeah, baby Chelsea knewinstinctively, I knew
intuitively who I was in a realway.
I had deep relationship withmyself.
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Also because I was an onlychild, I didn't have very many
friends.
So like my whole environmentwas getting to know myself.
My whole environment was aboutprocessing my emotions because I
would come home and do theshadow work.
Why was this person mean to metoday?
Let's work through it.
So while I had been freaking,doing the mental health work my
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whole childhood, you know,people started coming, coming
across their own shadow work.
By the time I was a pro, youknow, like so.
So it only made sense to meRight, like, because I was
always the carer, I was alwaysthe person to.
You know, we get this so muchas healers.
We understand people almost toa fault.
We make excuses for peoplealmost to a fault.
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We're like I can see wherethey're coming from, because we
would want somebody to give usthat grace.
So it's like, just, I'd alwaysbeen just a kindhearted person
and in this world it is notalways well received, even as a
voice teacher.
You know, I think, like don'tyou want me to be kind and
loving to your kids?
And it's like, it's so funnythat people are like would
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reject that in a sense.
So no, you know, so yeah, it'salways been a part of me, I have
to say, and while I have attimes, put away my spirituality,
it's never been fully gone,like there have been times where
my husband has witnessed mehyper focused on my career, but
there was always a componentthat I was always like, even
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just a few years ago, that is,when I started publicly sharing
that I was spiritually mentoringpeople.
So I was coming out onInstagram as voice teacher and
spiritual mentor, and this wasyears ago and I was working in
that capacity too.
So I had never just solely done,just voice, and I never woke up
to anything.
Like I had been practicingmediumship since 2013.
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I had been taking courses, butI was doing that all on the side
.
I got Reiki certified in 2015,.
Yoga certified.
Like I had been doing all thesethings, but like without
sharing it with my voice.
Teaching business, because I sawthat business as like the
corporate self, as the mask thatI had to put on and everything
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that I was doing spiritually wasreally for me that I hadn't
considered for it to be work.
So I had ultimately been doingthat to feed myself.
Like I want to learn morehealing modalities.
I want to be able to helpmyself and my family.
I want to expand my mind inthis way.
I want to learn more about this.
So it was always secret becauseit's personal.
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I find that people who come outso easily sometimes it's like
because they consider this justanother venture, not a real
coming out story of who they are.
So that's why it was so painfuland so a part of my story that
it was painful.
Because it's painful when it'syour calling.
It's scary, yeah, that witchwound, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So that's where I wanted to get into.
Yes, honey, we got that.
Which one coming through?
Yeah, it's big, it's scary,there's so much there.
So you brought up a lot ofquestions and things that I'm
I'm always just interested inspeaking to other people who've
gone through this because it'ssort of like let's share notes,
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like how are you at on yourjourney.
Because you brought up the witchwound and imposter syndrome
which I feel like you know, sortof go hand in hand in some ways
, at least from my experience,which is, you know, I have my
background is I'm a trainedperformer and I also worked in
politics and so you know, likethe outward persona of who I've
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been has been sort of like I'vebeen very confused, like how,
you know, I want to incorporateand bring everybody to the party
and everybody to the show, butthen it sort of means, like what
you spoke to earlier, sort ofnot alienating, but it feels as
if I'm I might freak out thepeople who are more sort of like
in that corporate world or thatsort of thing.
(21:30):
So you know, but then it'spainful for me to sort of shun
like the really oddball, weirdpart of me.
That's really my gift, and butit comes back to that witch
wound, like if I really showedand I'm still in this process
like I'm in this process nowwhere, similarly, like I went
into this huge portal of havingto learn all of these spiritual
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tools simply because I neededthem to survive, yeah, during my
father's passing, andafterwards I was like cool, so
I've been doing comedy and Ineed to just pause it because
all I want to do is sit andmeditate.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, who wants to laugh?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
right, now yeah, yeah like.
I'll laugh with the spirits alittle bit when they're telling
me jokes, but like you know, Igot nothing right now when it
comes to comedy, so I'm in thislike fun kind of moment where
I'm, yeah, where I was just likecool.
So I've been a hermit and it'sbeen sort of challenging to like
see everyone.
You know the compare anddespair cycle of being like, wow
(22:25):
, so cool.
Everybody else seems like somuch further on their career
track and I find that usuallyit's because they've followed
sort of like a very linearcareer track and I'm like cool,
so I followed this and then Ihad to pause and go and learn a
ton and now I'm in this place oflike merging both worlds of the
spiritual work and the comedyand the performance, and it's
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awkward as heck, I know, it isvery awkward, weird, I know, and
it comes back to like impostersyndrome because because that's
the thing you said somethingearlier that I love You're like
I'm past apprentice stage andI'm like, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, we know this.
Oh, I'm like great, so we'renot.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I said this the other day.
I was like I'm like past thekiddie pool play time.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, you know, like I'm done with that, that you
should get very real with that,right?
Because I think also, so manyof us are like I'm not ready,
I'm not ready, I'm not ready,I'm not ready.
There really has to come apoint where the true healers
have to realize we're ready,because the other ones who, who
are just again checking a box ontheir career track, they are
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saying they're ready, butthey're not, they're giving not.
You know.
So it's tricky.
Go on, sorry, I just yeah, no,it's true.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I mean that are like I don't know.
Yeah, because it's once youknow sort of the power and
that's why I'm so fascinatedwith the muse and the energy and
it's like that's why I'mtalking about all of this is
that it's so fricking powerful.
It's like once you tap intothat sort of river of power,
you're like holy crap, likeright, it's a lot to own and
it's a lot to step into.
And I would say also, like whenyou speak to the people who are
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like cool, I did my yogateacher training, like I'm ready
to you know, like I'm a masterteacher.
It's like you know, it takestime and I know not to say that
somebody who's just starting,like I'm sure they have a lot to
give, they do.
But I think there's alsosomething to be said about going
into deep study and reallyhoning your gifts, because each
person on their path is going tobe very, very specific about
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what they're serving.
So I think there's something tobe said about that, correct.
But to bring it back to sort oflike imposter syndrome mixed
with which wound is really thatfear that like I feel that is so
gosh.
It can be very present for meand in this moment it's very
present where I'm kind of likeit's that moment I'm going to
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say a curse, so I'm going to sayit's like shit or get off the
pot.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I have no choice but to dive into this, but I'm
terrified and so I'm curious,like for your experience.
It's like I'm so scared that ifI really showed everything, all
of it that I you know, there'sa fear of of like literal
persecution.
It's like past life stuffcoming up, being like if you
show your power, they willliterally kill you.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yes, yes, crazy, I mean.
Maybe not, though I.
So that's, and that's why Istarted this work, because,
first of all, I'd always beenvery, very interested in past
lives.
Like that was the other thing,like all we get interested in
reincarnation had tons of booksas a kid, like that's the one
thing my parents did sanction,like a lot of spiritual books, a
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lot of dream books, a lot of,you know, like I had, I had
those, those things in my reach.
And so from past life work, Iwould get a lot of clients who
were in some way shape or form,medicine, women, healers,
midwives, doctors In somecapacity.
They all had a witch wound andin many of those lives not so
(25:54):
pretty, didn't always make itout alive, and this is for
hundreds and thousands of years.
It's been like this over time.
So we, technically, you know,and also witches, healers, you
know, we are here for theoppressed.
We're not necessarily here.
We're here to really helppeople that are disenfranchised
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and struggling, and you knowthat's our purpose, because
that's who we are.
And so over time it can be veryscary, especially because I had
been trying to assimilate withthe oppressor.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I've been trying to yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I've been trying to assimilate with the oppressor so
I was like nothing to see here.
I'm not rattling a snake infront of you.
You know like.
You know, like, so I had triedto assimilate for so long in all
these different ways and Irealized, well, I'm trying to
assimilate with the Jews, I'mtrying to assimilate with the
Christians, I'm trying toassimilate and I don't even know
(26:54):
myself, you know.
So it got to a point where,once I made peace with myself, I
realized that I was makingpeace with the witch wound.
I didn't realize, like, like,my whole self really identifies
as a witch in ways, not justwith the term, but if you really
look up, like, what a witch is.
(27:14):
I mean, it was everything thatI stood for, everything that I
am, everything that I believe in.
And so it got to the pointwhere, like, I had to accept
myself so much and love myselfso much and believe that the
people that are falling away aremeant to fall away because they
(27:36):
don't see me in the extreme.
Also, I find online is safer forme because if you're going to
say something, mean, I can blockyou.
I'm not going to die from that.
You know what I mean.
Like, so I feel safer in thislife because right now I'm
expressing it all behind ascreen, if you're going to call
me a name.
(27:56):
I'm like I've been there, youknow, like I'm good, you know, I
know.
I know the names, I've heardthese things and it's really
just about knowing truly in myheart where I stand.
If I know that within my spirit, my heart, I am good, I'm doing
what's good and right for me,then it helps, it's protection,
it's that shield of armor, butit's it's not easy to feel also
(28:21):
like you're shunning anyone else.
That's also not my intention,but people that that feel
shunned, that are not normally,you know, just have to
understand that like we are alsohere for a specific type of
person, a type of audience.
But I get it because, moving,shifting from voice teaching,
I'm using the same account thatyou know I started my music
(28:42):
business with, so I've had thisaccount since 2014.
It used to be Cam and Music, soI had people following me on
there from that life where Ijust got out of college and I
was just a little baby and I was, you know, like so tender and
now really starting to see whereI stand, like where I draw the
line in the sand and where youknow where my beliefs are.
(29:05):
And it's scary, like I amscared every day I'm posting.
I'm posting like big themes forpeople to chew on, but also
like I have found a secret thirdaudience.
It's not necessarily the peoplethat followed me for just the
spirituality or just the voiceteaching, but there's like this
third group that's comingthrough that loves that.
(29:27):
I do both.
So I also say, like you know,you're going to get those people
and the more we dive deep andlike heal these wounds, the more
we feel we can be out there andperforming again and things
like that.
So I find that the more I dothis work, the more also I feel
called to share maybe a littlediddy or two on my page, like
I've felt called to sing a bitmore and people can feel
(29:49):
inspired to sing as well.
So it's not like I'm alsoforsaking any, any of my past
things that I've enjoyed, butI'm also now integrating it a
little bit more.
It looks different, it shifts,but it's all still me.
You're just seeing it indifferent lights.
You're just seeing thosedimensions shift and change as
we grow, as we grow on thisearth.
(30:09):
So it's been, it's been, I'mplaying with it.
It's not all easy.
I have people that I loverejecting me.
I have people that I don't knowrejecting me, and you know it
can be.
It can be tricky, but you knowwhat it's like.
I've been through harder and wecan move through this, you know
.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Well, that brings me to a question that I feel is
sort of like a juicy question,cause I really I wanted to ask,
like you know, are there toolsthat you've gained from doing
this past life work that help inthis process of sort of nursing
this witch wound, the impostersyndrome, the rejection, because
(30:50):
that, like, I don't know aboutyou, but if I get you know,
thank God I don't have a ton ofhaters yet just because I've
been keeping a pretty lowprofile so far, because I've
been playing it safe and it'sdone.
I'm done playing safe.
But when I've gotten a few likehate comments to me, it's like
somebody like sticking a swordin me.
(31:10):
I know, I know I've got acancer moon, I'm a sensitive
girl, I know.
I'm a strong, badass chick butlike I have a sensitive little
like inside I'm marshmallow.
So I'm just curious, likebecause to me that's like okay,
so you might not be actuallyhurting me physically, but like
it hurts.
So I'm curious you know, fromprocessing and integrating your
work, your past life work, youknow how do you bring that into
(31:34):
your life now, like otherspecific tools that you use.
Yeah, what can you share aboutthat?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, a lot of it.
Really.
For me, the way I do it is alot of mindset work and a lot of
I'll do candleworkings aroundit.
So I will literally and I'llmeditate with my phone open on
Instagram and cleanse it so.
So there are several things.
So I will set the intention toalso remove all evil eyes off my
(31:59):
phone.
So that's one thing.
But to like go into detail withthat, you can just have your
screen open or a screenshot of,like your face and the name and
everything and just sending itpositive intentions and removing
any entities from that kind ofspace, really imagining it as
like a 3d kind of space.
And that one I actually gotfrom Capitolia.
(32:20):
She, she walked us through ameditation in which in famous
last spring about, and it was sohelpful to me because at that
point I was really visualizing.
You know, it's really about howyou visualize people receiving
you.
If I'm in a weird space andI've had a weird interaction, I
suddenly think now all 20,000people feel that way, but that's
(32:41):
not true.
That's just that one person.
So it's about also likehypnotically removing that one
little person, not allowing themto be the main theme of your
page now, but just like a little, nothing, like I'm just
removing an ant and removing alittle piece of flint you know
lint, whatever but you know, sothat candlework I will do like a
(33:03):
cord cutting.
If I had a weird specific eventor if I feel honestly, even if
I'm feeling weird aboutconsuming someone else's content
and that's giving me a weirdvibe, I will also remove myself
from their space If I feel likeI'm giving them the evil eye and
I'm like, yeah, like if I findthat coming up, I'll be like I
don't like this in me, so I'mgoing to remove myself, so I
(33:24):
don't do that to them.
So that happens to not as much.
But you know I'm not perfect.
I'm still human.
We can still be like cringe.
You know it's like it's normal,I think it's.
You know I think so manyspiritual teachers out there we
want to, we want to just looklike a perfect.
You know perfect, good, neutral, that's like you're allowed to
be like kind of about people.
So those tools have helped.
(33:45):
And as far as my past life work, you know when you do this, you
know I do this hours every weekat this point because you know
most people are booking two hoursessions and so for many hours.
I have seen countless deaths.
I have witnessed countlesspeople trying to just help the
(34:05):
collective and get hurt andreally I think, as healers, we
are waking up to this idea thatyou know we are.
We are the special ones rightnow because we have so much love
and care in our hearts andthat's why it hurts.
So it's not a bad thing that weget hurt.
It actually shows our empathyand shows that we are good
(34:26):
people.
But at the end of the day, wehave to really remember how
powerful we are, that thesesmall people feel like saying
like two little curse words atus is going to do anything.
So it's really aboutenvisioning yourself as the
grandtide priestess of your,your corner and that these
people are just the small youknow.
Also, I like to also usearchetypes.
Jesus was not well liked by alot of people, so I think you
(34:49):
know this is true.
Listen, at the end of the day,I hone in on archetypes.
Who?
Who was persecuted through timeand and also then became a huge
archetype for us all to love.
These people that weresocialists, that were lovers of
people, these people that saidthings that were quote
(35:11):
blasphemous, but it was reallyjust like being a prophet, being
someone that stood by God andthe word and didn't want to
control people.
So I think of Jesus a lot.
I think of Mother Mary when Iwant to show compassion to
people.
So I do a lot of archetypalwork.
I work with my ancestors, whoare wise and well.
(35:32):
I work with you, know mycandles and everything.
So these are all tools that Iuse to spiritually affect my, my
internet space and also justremembering, like not to always,
like consume so much that youthink that that's your real
world, because I think it hurtsmore when we think that this is
(35:52):
our real world, like this littlescreen, and it's not like I'm a
whole mother, I'm a wholespiritual worker, I'm a whole
life.
I am a whole Trader Joe's fan.
Okay, like I, there's moreparts to me.
So it's just about honing in.
What makes you multifaceted.
Who are the people remembering?
The people that love and carefor you.
(36:14):
But it comes with a lot of work.
You have to build thatcommunity first.
You have to build that safespace around you so that those
little things don't bother youand you have people to go to to
say like they will mean to metoday.
You have to go to somebody totell.
You have to tell someone andthen you have to also realize
that at some point, if you'retelling the same person the 10th
(36:35):
time like this person is me andthey know you're all that and
you know you're all that it getsridiculous to even care.
So there comes a point where ithappens so much, the
persecution can happen sofrequently.
I really enjoy the small momentsof peace.
But also you know you can blockcertain words now, certain
(36:56):
comments, certain, so I justlike I go in there, I'm like
ugly, stupid.
I just type in like I don'twant to see these words.
So I just also protect it's aprotection spell Also within my
comments like I will protect thespace and be like this is a
space for people like this.
If you don't agree, pleasedon't comment.
You will be blocked, you willbe deleted because this is a
(37:18):
safe space for my community.
I'm not.
I'm open to feedback, but I'mnot open to bullying and that's,
that's a big thing.
I'm open to feedback, I'm opento hearing if I've done any harm
.
But if you're just here to likeshout at me please, please, go
find another, go find another,go find another.
So that's where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
That's where you're at.
I love that.
So another question is you knowyou mentioned these tools and
well, I am curious.
Before I ask this otherquestion, I am curious could you
explain a little bit about whatcandle work is, because I feel
that there's some I mean for meas well, like I work with
(37:59):
candles all the time but I havesort of my own way that I do it
and I'm really curious like whatyou do.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah.
So I've learned candle workingsfrom multiple teachers and the
main thing is that you know youget two candles if you're doing
a candle cutting or something.
It's really a visualization andit's less about oh my god, I'm
hexing people or you know,witchcraft, but more so about
planting these seeds in yoursubconscious and when you, when
(38:28):
you are gazing upon a candle,psychologically what's happening
is you are, you are envisioningthe thing happening.
So if you are seeing, I meanthere's a spiritual explanation
to this and then there's also,just like science backed.
So if you are looking at acandle and it's represented, one
candle is representing you.
One candle represents the otherparty.
(38:51):
Let's say it's, it's been arough relationship and you're
ready to finally start thosetoxic cycles.
A lot of people come to me likeI just want to be done with him
.
We're broken up, but I alwaysgo back.
I see this a lot.
So let's say it's you and thatother candle and they represent
you.
Know, each candle representsone and what I'll do is I'll tie
twine on one candle, have itattached and tie it on the other
(39:14):
side.
You can also dress your candlesand by dressing you'll put like
some sort of oil that is usedfor a particular reason.
So let's say you want to havean uncrossing.
So I have many different oilsthat I work with and mostly I
get them through bossy brujha.
But you can also get them andthey all come like this, and so
(39:37):
I'll.
I work with oils a lot justbecause I have a strong sense,
sensory memory.
So when I smell things, when Ifeel things, it helps my magic,
and so I'll use different oilsthat represent different things
that they carry out.
So let's say you want more love, or you want less, or you want,
you know you want things to bedone.
(39:58):
You would then consecrate ormake that candle really emulate
that vibe, kind of.
So you can do that and then youcan add I also add like herbs,
like if I want more mentalwellness, and you know there's
just all different herbs thatyou can use, that that assist
you in these things, becauseit's also it's all psychological
(40:20):
, it's the thing that I'mgrabbing and I'm mindfully and
intentionally putting this onthe candle and this is going to
represent that I'm protected andsafe and things like that.
And then you light it at thesame time and over over the
course of an hour, the you knowthe string will then break, and
that is to also subconsciouslyplant the seed that it is done.
(40:41):
We are very powerful creatureswith our minds and it's
important for us to visualize.
So I use it as a visual aid, Iuse it as magic, I use it as a
way to signify that the thing isdone, and I will film this for
my clients and show them andI'll read it too.
(41:01):
So it also depends on how it'sburning and you know who's
coming out on top.
Maybe the other person already,so let's say the X, the flame
broke off first from him.
That then shows us that thatperson already was gone.
So they were already not eveninvested.
So the reason why you'refinished is because you're
(41:23):
feeling that a lot of women feelthis kind of like something's
off.
He's not him, you know.
So that'll happen a great dealas well.
So yeah, that's kind of how Iuse my candle workings.
I will also do like singularcandles as well.
If somebody is harming othersand harming themselves, I'll
bind them to make sure thatthey're protected.
But mostly, you know, it's allfor protection, it's all you
(41:46):
know, for the common good.
You know I'm trying not to hurtanyone per se, but that's
technically like how I work withmy candles and of course, like
I have my whole altar I use.
I use candles, you know, torepresent all my deities and you
know like they'll all be likemy little prayer candles.
But yeah, I got a whole teamover there, it's got like a
whole football team of candlesover there.
Yeah, of course I just usecandles to visualize, you know
(42:10):
like, so that's like my main, mymain thing for candleworking.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I love that.
Wow, Wow, Wow, Very useful,Very useful.
So that leads me into, Isuppose, what my last question
is.
And you can really take it,take this and run, take it where
you want to go.
It's sort of like amultifaceted question, of course
, which is really about how doyou?
It's a multi, multi, multitiered question, perhaps, like
(42:36):
sure, sure, sure.
First is, how do you nurtureyour inner muse, this gift every
day, and or is it every day?
And so that sort of leads intothe next question, which is
because I'm just personallycurious are there times or
moments when you know thatthere's something that you could
(42:56):
do, that there is some magicthat you could do to help with a
certain situation and you, howdo I say, sort of resist it or
drag your feet with it a littlebit?
Or are there times where, likenurturing this gift and like
using your gift feelschallenging, and it's not even
the right word for it, but it'salmost like I'll put it.
(43:16):
I'll put it in the frame ofreally how I'm thinking about it
which is I don't know if you'veever seen this meme where, like
it's this girl, she's like oh,I'm so sad, or whatever,
whatever.
And then somebody's like you'rea witch girl, you're a witch,
yeah For sure.
I guess it's like for mesometimes.
That's.
That's sort of where I feelsometimes.
Where I was talking with mypartner about this the other day
(43:37):
, I was like you know, if Icould just wave my fingers and
like have this be done, you know, magically?
I would you know if I couldjust snap my fingers magically?
And he was like well magic and Iwas like, damn, you're right.
So like there's times where Iknow that I'm in need of like
using my own tools.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
And I forget.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
but I'm also kind of like there's like comfort and
being like I'm just a normalperson and I'm in the victim
hood and there's something kindof like I don't know alluring
about that of like do you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yes, I think also it's like sometimes it's a
burden, because who heals thehealer, you know.
So I think it's so normal forus to also be like and like I
was.
I was sick last week and I'mletting a lot of you know events
move through me and a lot ofgrief is happening to us as a
collective, no matter why.
And so when I get sick andeverything I, you know, all I
(44:31):
want to do is be in bed, but Ialways hear that voice.
It's like go to your altar, goto your you know, like I hear
the spirits because the spiritscommunicate with me like this,
like as a constant thought.
I got to, I got to do this.
I've been ignoring this, I'vebeen that's spirit talking to me
.
You know, it's not my OCD, thatis, you know, because I could
be, I could be OCD about thelaundry that's backed up.
(44:53):
So so I know that my spiritsare communicating with me and
I've gotten so much stricterwith how I show up.
But when life happens, it'shard sometimes to show up, but
luckily, what I've done to makeit easier.
I mean, obviously, like havingmy own home.
I am very privileged to have aspace designated in my office.
(45:17):
I'm very privileged that myfamily is fine with this.
So these are all other thingsIf you're listening and you
don't have space for this, youknow.
So I want to acknowledge that Ido have space to sit and be
with myself and be with myspirits, and I used to do it in
my closet.
I used to call it my meditationcloset.
(45:38):
But you know, like, whereveryou can find it, whatever piece
you can find within yourselfwhile you're going through hard
times, is so helpful.
I think, if we all are herereminding people, whether
witches, healers or not, we allforget sometimes to take care of
ourselves.
We all forget to motherourselves and reparent ourselves
.
So for me, because now it is myfull time work, I've gotten so
(46:03):
much better at showing up at myaltar twice a day, especially
during the winter, more sospring and summer.
I'm like, hey guys, like I do,you know, more of a quick one
and I can feel but I feel myconnection lowering.
You know what I mean, like youcan feel that a little bit of
disconnection, though they arewith me always, I find that you
(46:26):
know, when I'm sitting here andreally just like being in this
space, you know I'm here, butalso there's life to live.
So there's there's definitelybalance.
It's all about balance always,and I think you know some days
I'm lifeing a little bit morethan I am spiritual, but but
that's what being spiritual is.
It's just about like allowingyourself to just live as well,
(46:47):
as well as you can.
So, yeah, I want to say thatlike finding a routine that does
work for you helps, especiallyin the beginning.
I say you know, if you can makeit I know it's not always easy
in the mornings for people, butI say, if you can make 10
minutes, carve 10 minutes atnight.
People come to me all the time.
I don't know where to start.
I'm like one candle sit.
(47:08):
I'm like it's really like thisis not so hard.
This is what I, you know.
But I think we we've lostpatience or we think that it's
going to be some divine miracleand it's like just connect in
some way and connect.
For me, connecting with a lovedone is the easiest way to start
, like connecting with my, myaunt, who passed was the real
(47:29):
way.
I mean anyone that had passedin my family was how I knew I
could connect with the dead.
So I'd been doing that since Iwas little, so for me it's easy
to think like, oh, okay, I'mgoing to connect with my aunt,
I'm going to connect with thisperson.
So, starting small also, juststart with someone.
You know someone, you'refamiliar with their energy, so
you know when they come up, oh,this is my aunt, this is grandma
(47:51):
.
Because you can feel thedifference and I think when you
start there it really is a nicegateway to other spirits that
you might want to work with.
Again, all these things used toscare me before I did shout a
work, before I realized you knowthere's far scarier things in
this earth than what you couldeven do to imagine what's
(48:14):
happening on the other side.
And as long as you're protected, you're calling in wise and
well people, spirits you knowyou'll be protected and it's
just about believing that too.
So those are all my tricks andtips right now.
I love that, I love that veryuseful, yes, very wise.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
And you're right, it is as simple as lighting a
candle.
That's just one candle, morningand evening, just one.
I do one candle in the littleJapanese incense stick and I'm
like, okay, this is me and thisis not all you need my daily
thing.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Or even if it's like you know, you, you, you're in
the shower and you're reallytaking a minute to let the water
wash over you.
You know it's taking spiritualbaths has been transformative
for me too.
But yeah, starting so smallbecause I think it's just so
easy to grab a $2 candle and sitwith your, you know what I mean
.
So, yeah, those are.
(49:06):
Those are all.
That's what I would suggest forsure.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, I love it, I love it, I love it All right, so
we're going to wrap it up there, even though I know that
there's so much more like you'resuch a beautiful well we'll do
a part tool, part two.
Ladies and gentlemen, so towrap it up, I would love for you
to share with our listener ifthere's anything interesting or
fun you have coming up and howthey can work with you and how
(49:31):
they can reach you and find you.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Sure.
So you can find me on the pastlife which dot com or on
Instagram at the past life which, and right now I'm booking for
I'm doing currently some morewhich work.
So I'm doing those candleworkings and those jars and
things like that as we head intowinter and you know I want to
hermit all the time.
(49:53):
But I'm also doing, obviously,past life regressions which come
in one and two hour packages.
So if you are a mom on the goor if you are, you know you're
on limited time and don't havethree hours to devote to
traveling to a past life.
I've made shorter sessions thatare also more affordable for
most people.
(50:14):
So my goal is to help morepeople on a larger scale while
also being a little bit moreprice inclusive.
So I have a lot of differentthings that I offer, from
literally free, from my podcastto just free downloads and
things like that, to a wholesliding scale that moves upwards
(50:34):
, but I try to include all kindof all types of price ranges so
that everyone can experiencesome sort of healing.
So, yeah, that's that's what I'mdoing as far as psychic work,
and then I'm also I've alsostarted bringing back some
support and care sessions duringthis time where people are just
like having a lot more conflictwithin themselves, within their
(50:56):
homes.
So that is a space that I liketo also like we'll do terror
readings, we also do channeledreadings and also just any any
sort of healing that people needin those sessions.
So I like to create that spacealso for just a space that like
we can kind of work throughwhat's going on, some shadow
work, and just like feelingsupported.
(51:17):
I think you know it's soimportant to have a cheerleader
in your corner and we, we needit, you know.
So that was a big thing too.
I just want to.
I just want to give to people alittle bit more like one on one
, not just in the psychic space.
Yeah, so you can find abeautiful gift.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
We'll have all the links in the show notes, dear
listener, so go ahead, check itout and definitely follow her on
Instagram, because she's alwayssharing really wonderful
content and I'm just so blessedand I feel really happy that you
came on the show to share yourexperience and your voice.
Thanks, all right, my friend.
(51:55):
Thank you for listening.
This has been another episodeof the Ode to Joy podcast.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
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, dear listener.
I hope it was as a joy for youto listen to as it was for me to
have.
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Welcome to the Ode to Joy podcast, a show where we
talk about joy how do wecultivate it, how do we maintain
it and what are the things thatget in the way.
I'm your host, shamanicDeathdula Alana Box, and we are
talking with the past life witch, chelsea Kemen, all about her
internal muse, or inner genius.
(00:21):
I'm so excited for you to havea listen.
I hope you enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hello and welcome back to the Ode to Joy podcast.
I'm your host, alana Box, andit is my sincere pleasure to
invite my friend Chelsea Kemento the show.
Welcome, chelsea.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm so happy to be here, yes, I'm so happy you're
here as well, and I'm so happythat we were connected through
the wonderful world of Instagramand social media.
I know I just love everythingthat you share and everything
that you do, so it's such apleasure to bring you on to the
show.
So if you could just drop us into where you are, let our
(01:08):
listener know where are youjoining us from today?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So I am here in Fort Wayne, Indiana, but I am from
New York.
I'm from Long Island.
You have a strong island girl.
I am a strong island girl.
I grew up in Garden City Southand, yeah, Nassau County baby
the 516, if you're familiar andby way of many events in the
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last few years, we found our wayto Indiana, mostly for my birth
of this business and to getsome healing.
So, yeah, it's been quite ajourney, since around like 2019
or so.
But, yeah, now we're here inIndiana and it's been nice.
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It's been a really good respitefor me.
They say you can't heal in theenvironment.
You got sick.
So taking a little pause fromNew York life and being here has
been really healing andinstrumental in a lot of my own
personal growth.
So it's been really good.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Mm-mm-mm.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm so excited to get into that with you today I know
it's the topic everyone wantsto hear.
They're like how did you makeit to Fort Wayne, Are?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
you there.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, we could get right into it.
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We're going right into it.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I get what's I've been in.
So, yes, I'm joining from LongIsland, north Shore, nassau
County and repping that 516 also, so it's just so nice to have a
familiar voice come on to theshow.
Yeah, yeah, and I also getneeding to.
I want to say extricate oneselffrom the space where you were
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raised, because I think I'vealways indulged in expanding my
awareness of other cultures andtravel and places, because it
gives good perspective.
Perspective yeah, and then Icome back home and I go OK.
So how can I serve?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Right, how can I integrate?
How can I integrate what I'velearned and bring it back to the
community that I love?
Yeah, I resonate with that.
For sure, for sure, yeah, so itall started.
I was always a very spiritualkid.
I was that kind of child.
I was mostly very bullied andthings like that.
So I find when you suffer fromsome sort of oppression in your
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school system, you go inwardmore than most kids do, right,
you search for meaning, yousearch for understanding and you
search for validation.
And so it started way back whenI was a kid.
Really, I had to become very intune with myself and understand
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why oppression happens and whyother people don't speak out and
all of that.
So this is kind of like thebasis of my heart, where I've
always stood and who I am, andcouple that with my upbringing,
where I was raised by a Jewishmother and an Italian Catholic
father and I grew up in a systemwhere there was where I felt
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othered or like the outsiderwithin my community which was
quite Italian at the time andfeeling that opposition within
my community there and thenfeeling opposition within my
mother's community as well.
So I never felt like I fit in.
So by the time I was around 10years old, I had proclaimed that
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I was a witch and that I wasgoing to always be like this.
I was going to always.
And I was, of course, born onHalloween.
So it all, you know, it allchecked out in my kid mind.
I'm like, well, it was ablueprint for me.
And, of course, you know thenmy parents being who they were,
the generation, everythingthey're like.
You're not a witch, you'recrazy.
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So over time, I went and got amusic degree.
I studied the arts.
I got two music educationdegrees.
I fully stepped my feet intowhat it meant to be a music
educator.
I went to Teachers College inNew York City, which is
affiliated with ColumbiaUniversity.
I did the thing Like I went,you know, as far as I could to
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show that I could do this, thatI could, I could win capitalism.
Look at me, you know like I feltlike I was very much just
assimilating as much as I couldand, you know, kept saying it
was for the love of music andfor the love of art and for the
love of children and everything.
But deep down I was veryunhappy, and I knew this in my
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undergrad, that I didn't want todo this.
I knew this in my master's,that I didn't want to do this.
But I felt, if I kept studyingand I kept believing in the core
of it, which was I love thearts and I love serving children
.
But there was something.
When you put those two togetherand put it in a system, I
didn't want to work in thatsystem, I didn't want to work in
the education system.
It felt again like anotheroppression to me.
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It felt like another thing thatI had to fit in the box to and
I just couldn't do it.
And this is partially becauseI'm neurodivergent.
I just and I give that, I givethat to myself.
You know, I know that I'm notgoing to assimilate as easily
with other people, because Ithink very critically and I see,
I see the lack in systems andfor me it hurt more to be in
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those systems because I had toabide by them where I felt like
it didn't align with the child'spurpose, the child's spirit,
the child.
So it's always been like Ireally don't like seeing people
controlled.
So if all of these things are atmy core and as I'm going
through awakenings, I'mrealizing like my true nature is
to be a healer, is to besomeone that connects to
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humanity and takes care of it.
But how does this fit in ourWestern culture, how does this
fit into our world?
And the answer is it reallydoesn't.
I'm.
I'm looked at like I am such anoddball right.
So over time it really was notso much like oh, I found this,
but oh, I came home to it.
So it was like I steppedoutside myself to find parts of
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me that were palatable for theuniverse, for whomever was
watching me.
And as I got more and morecomfortable with who I truly was
, my authentic self, I startedto really like peel away those
layers and I realized, like asmy healer self, as a
regressionist, as a hypnosis, ahypnotist, as you know, as
someone doing all of thesehealing modalities like that is
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my truest expression.
And I still have a couple ofvoice students, I have to say.
Still, I still do have a coupleof voice students on the side,
but it's because I get to nowcarry out my exact values and
mission and beliefs through allthe work that feels so good to
me.
So for a very long time I I hada really thriving business on
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the North Shore of SuffolkCounty.
I had been really catering toeveryone in, like Huntington and
Lloyd Neck, and so it was inthat, in those spaces, that I
was, you know, creating a namefor myself.
I was doing really well there,but there was no way to scale.
It was just me and I could feelthe pressures after the
(08:20):
pandemic.
We just had a baby girl in 2019.
So I had to really readjustwhat I was bringing to the table
and what my husband wasbringing to the table.
And for the first couple ofyears, because of the pandemic,
my husband was the solecaregiver and I was working.
Because of how successful mybusiness was and just the way it
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worked out, we didn't feelcomfortable putting her in a
daycare.
We didn't feel comfortable withcertain things that would be,
you know, something where shecould take home illness and we
wanted to keep her safe,especially her being our first
child.
So through a series of all ofthese you know, trial, trial by
fire, right it got to the pointwhere I just couldn't resist it
anymore.
I got to that breaking point,that dark night, and then it
(09:04):
just came to like a lot ofthings come to me in visions and
then I share it with my husbandand then we make it work
together.
But this came as a huge visionthat I had to.
We had to move, we had to makethis decision so he could find
work here.
Because we're all musicians,we're musically trained, so
there's sweet water here.
If you're familiar with, it'spretty big like music business.
(09:27):
It's just, it's fine.
It's mostly online but likepeople that are like real,
really in the music scene.
They're like yes, I know it.
So it afforded me the abilityto now switch roles a little bit
and also expand my spiritualbusiness.
But I was still afraid.
But it got to a point where Ithen joined a marketing group
(09:49):
and it was called Witch andFamous with Captolia and I
joined that as a voice teacherstill and I was like it was like
I was just trying so hard tokeep making it work and
eventually I just had doneseveral sessions in a week of
regressions and healing sessionsand I was like who are we
(10:11):
kidding now?
Like I can't.
There is an undeniable now,like there is not.
It got to the point where I hadso far past that apprentice
stage.
I had so passed that impostersyndrome.
I for real, I knew I couldchannel past lives.
I was right there with thepeople I had now had hundreds of
(10:35):
testimonials from peopletelling me like, oh my God, this
is spot on, your work is spoton.
And at what point do I keepdenying myself?
Because I'm afraid of how I'llbe perceived.
And it just got souncomfortable for me, basically
got so uncomfortable.
I just couldn't shut myself offanymore.
I had to share that this iswhat I do and, yes, it created
(10:59):
some confusion and a lot ofpeople that had me as a voice
teacher, like the parents of thestudents, they're struggling.
They were struggling tounderstand this change.
They're struggling tounderstand.
But it's really.
It's not that I've changed,it's an uncovering.
And so, like you see now, myheart, my beliefs, everything
right out on paper now or onyour screen, and it's who I
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always was.
So it only shows me, as peoplereject me or don't feel
comfortable to change.
I realized that really what Iwas doing was I was just making
myself palatable.
I wasn't.
I didn't change necessarily, Ijust allowed myself to express
myself more.
So that is the longest shortstory ever.
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I didn't like that, but it'sthis coming in.
This is what a calling trulyfeels like.
Like you know, I used to thinklike how do nuns know?
How do they know when it's time?
And I felt this way just thispast summer, this real call to
just stop faking it, stop tryingto be something you're not
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anymore, because I was dilutingmy message, I was diluting
myself and I could only serve aportion of the population, and I
was just so ready to serve nowon a global scale, but also just
on my global scale, like toserve all parts of me, and so
that's how I'm where I'm atright now I love it because,
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like literally, in this time ofyou sharing.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm like cool, so that's all my questions.
Thanks so much.
Thanks for coming on the show,but like there's so many, I have
so many questions, let's talk.
Let's talk, I'll pick them.
Thanks so much for coming.
No, I mean, that's.
The thing is like there's somany questions that I had as you
were just talking and I'm socurious.
Yeah, so I love that you've justfully stepped into and you're
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embracing this role, as I didn'teven say your name in the
beginning.
You're the past life witch,which I am the past life, she's
the past life witch and I'd loveto, yeah, bring it back to
really like the beginning.
So I love that you mentionedthat, like you had this
blueprint over you.
So, bringing it back to thetopic of the day, the muse, the
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inner genius.
All of us are born with thissort of like inner genius, inner
muse, this gift essentially,that almost operates as this, I
want to say, like sort ofspiritual sidekick, you could
say.
And there's a lot of readingthat one could do about this.
Some people call it the daemon,the inner daemon.
So it's like I believe all ofus have this and I'm just so
(13:37):
curious about people and theirjourney of like how they embrace
it, how they nurture it at thetimes when perhaps they've
rejected it, and how to reallylike have the kind of
relationship with it, thatyou're in sort of constant
communication with it and, in away, serving that inner muse and
that inner daemon.
So I want to bring it back tobaby you and obviously, like you
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knew, coming in you were likeall right, so cool, I'm born on
Halloween, so like this is who Iam everybody.
And I'm just curious, likebring us back to like was there
a moment that it came into youor is it something you always
knew?
Like when did you sort of firstclock that this was who you are
?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I definitely knew.
I remember myself coming intolike conscious awareness that I
was doing things differently.
Because, well, one, I likedFunny Girl but that's another
story In around like fourth,fifth grade, oh yeah, oh yeah,
funny Girl was like my top movie.
And I knew that when I wassitting in class and I'm like
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Funny Girl is my favorite movieand everybody else was like
Terminator, this, so yeah.
So I knew already I was anartsy little gal.
But when I would feel stressed,I innately knew I would go up to
this little room upstairs thatreally was used as like a, you
know, let's put all the presentsin that room and like it was
(15:05):
just like an extra room, right,which is a luxury these days,
but anyway.
So we had this extra room, Iwould put on Anya and I would
put on my favorite little likebell bottom yoga pants, which at
the time they weren't calledyoga pants, it was 1998.
And I would put this on and Iwould meditate and I would do my
own form of yoga.
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And I didn't realize that thatwas what it was, but I used
elements that you know, peoplein their 30s just come to learn.
And I was doing itinstinctually, instinctively.
I was already, you know, doingmy own sort of yoga and
listening to things, and I couldfeel my spirit want to slow
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down like this.
I could feel myself, you know,even when I had like later days
and I was a kid I would liketake a bath and like relax, and
it's like I knew how to do allthese things.
I knew how to comfort myselfwithout giving, without being
given any true like tools.
I had never been told how torelax, I'd never been told about
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yoga or anything like that, soI was finding it all on my own.
It got to a point where it'sfunny.
But a friend of mine, you know Idon't know if she truly knew
this, but I was in, you know, Iwas in fifth grade and I was 10.
And she was like Chelsea, Ithink you're a witch, and
something with her saying thatresonated with me, even though
to this day I don't know if shepractices anymore or anything,
(16:30):
or if we would just like teenwitches, you know, like being
funny, right, right, I'm.
I was like, oh, I'm stillpracticing, I'm.
I just took that and I ran withit.
But I had also shunned it forsome time until I got to be an
adult, and when I did eventuallyshare that, like I was doing
professional witchery, my familywas actually like, oddly okay.
(16:50):
They were like listen, you'rean adult, you can make your own
choices, things like that.
But it was definitely somethingthat's hard for people who are
like you just got your mastersat Columbia.
It's, it's confusing for a lotof people and I think you know,
I think there's a certain subsetof people that will think you
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know, you've totally lost yourmind.
And then other people whoreally get it who are like oh
yeah, okay, she tried the thingand then she woke up and you
know so.
So there's that part too.
But yeah, baby Chelsea knewinstinctively, I knew
intuitively who I was in a realway.
I had deep relationship withmyself.
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Also because I was an onlychild, I didn't have very many
friends.
So like my whole environmentwas getting to know myself.
My whole environment was aboutprocessing my emotions because I
would come home and do theshadow work.
Why was this person mean to metoday?
Let's work through it.
So while I had been freaking,doing the mental health work my
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whole childhood, you know,people started coming, coming
across their own shadow work.
By the time I was a pro, youknow, like so.
So it only made sense to meRight, like, because I was
always the carer, I was alwaysthe person to.
You know, we get this so muchas healers.
We understand people almost toa fault.
We make excuses for peoplealmost to a fault.
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We're like I can see wherethey're coming from, because we
would want somebody to give usthat grace.
So it's like, just, I'd alwaysbeen just a kindhearted person
and in this world it is notalways well received, even as a
voice teacher.
You know, I think, like don'tyou want me to be kind and
loving to your kids?
And it's like, it's so funnythat people are like would
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reject that in a sense.
So no, you know, so yeah, it'salways been a part of me, I have
to say, and while I have attimes, put away my spirituality,
it's never been fully gone,like there have been times where
my husband has witnessed mehyper focused on my career, but
there was always a componentthat I was always like, even
(19:00):
just a few years ago, that is,when I started publicly sharing
that I was spiritually mentoringpeople.
So I was coming out onInstagram as voice teacher and
spiritual mentor, and this wasyears ago and I was working in
that capacity too.
So I had never just solely done,just voice, and I never woke up
to anything.
Like I had been practicingmediumship since 2013.
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I had been taking courses, butI was doing that all on the side
.
I got Reiki certified in 2015,.
Yoga certified.
Like I had been doing all thesethings, but like without
sharing it with my voice.
Teaching business, because I sawthat business as like the
corporate self, as the mask thatI had to put on and everything
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that I was doing spiritually wasreally for me that I hadn't
considered for it to be work.
So I had ultimately been doingthat to feed myself.
Like I want to learn morehealing modalities.
I want to be able to helpmyself and my family.
I want to expand my mind inthis way.
I want to learn more about this.
So it was always secret becauseit's personal.
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I find that people who come outso easily sometimes it's like
because they consider this justanother venture, not a real
coming out story of who they are.
So that's why it was so painfuland so a part of my story that
it was painful.
Because it's painful when it'syour calling.
It's scary, yeah, that witchwound, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So that's where I wanted to get into.
Yes, honey, we got that.
Which one coming through?
Yeah, it's big, it's scary,there's so much there.
So you brought up a lot ofquestions and things that I'm
I'm always just interested inspeaking to other people who've
gone through this because it'ssort of like let's share notes,
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like how are you at on yourjourney.
Because you brought up the witchwound and imposter syndrome
which I feel like you know, sortof go hand in hand in some ways
, at least from my experience,which is, you know, I have my
background is I'm a trainedperformer and I also worked in
politics and so you know, likethe outward persona of who I've
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been has been sort of like I'vebeen very confused, like how,
you know, I want to incorporateand bring everybody to the party
and everybody to the show, butthen it sort of means, like what
you spoke to earlier, sort ofnot alienating, but it feels as
if I'm I might freak out thepeople who are more sort of like
in that corporate world or thatsort of thing.
(21:30):
So you know, but then it'spainful for me to sort of shun
like the really oddball, weirdpart of me.
That's really my gift, and butit comes back to that witch
wound, like if I really showedand I'm still in this process
like I'm in this process nowwhere, similarly, like I went
into this huge portal of havingto learn all of these spiritual
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tools simply because I neededthem to survive, yeah, during my
father's passing, andafterwards I was like cool, so
I've been doing comedy and Ineed to just pause it because
all I want to do is sit andmeditate.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, who wants to laugh?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
right, now yeah, yeah like.
I'll laugh with the spirits alittle bit when they're telling
me jokes, but like you know, Igot nothing right now when it
comes to comedy, so I'm in thislike fun kind of moment where
I'm, yeah, where I was just likecool.
So I've been a hermit and it'sbeen sort of challenging to like
see everyone.
You know the compare anddespair cycle of being like, wow
(22:25):
, so cool.
Everybody else seems like somuch further on their career
track and I find that usuallyit's because they've followed
sort of like a very linearcareer track and I'm like cool,
so I followed this and then Ihad to pause and go and learn a
ton and now I'm in this place oflike merging both worlds of the
spiritual work and the comedyand the performance, and it's
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awkward as heck, I know, it isvery awkward, weird, I know, and
it comes back to like impostersyndrome because because that's
the thing you said somethingearlier that I love You're like
I'm past apprentice stage andI'm like, yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, we know this.
Oh, I'm like great, so we'renot.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I said this the other day.
I was like I'm like past thekiddie pool play time.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, you know, like I'm done with that, that you
should get very real with that,right?
Because I think also, so manyof us are like I'm not ready,
I'm not ready, I'm not ready,I'm not ready.
There really has to come apoint where the true healers
have to realize we're ready,because the other ones who, who
are just again checking a box ontheir career track, they are
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saying they're ready, butthey're not, they're giving not.
You know.
So it's tricky.
Go on, sorry, I just yeah, no,it's true.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I mean that are like I don't know.
Yeah, because it's once youknow sort of the power and
that's why I'm so fascinatedwith the muse and the energy and
it's like that's why I'mtalking about all of this is
that it's so fricking powerful.
It's like once you tap intothat sort of river of power,
you're like holy crap, likeright, it's a lot to own and
it's a lot to step into.
And I would say also, like whenyou speak to the people who are
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like cool, I did my yogateacher training, like I'm ready
to you know, like I'm a masterteacher.
It's like you know, it takestime and I know not to say that
somebody who's just starting,like I'm sure they have a lot to
give, they do.
But I think there's alsosomething to be said about going
into deep study and reallyhoning your gifts, because each
person on their path is going tobe very, very specific about
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what they're serving.
So I think there's something tobe said about that, correct.
But to bring it back to sort oflike imposter syndrome mixed
with which wound is really thatfear that like I feel that is so
gosh.
It can be very present for meand in this moment it's very
present where I'm kind of likeit's that moment I'm going to
(24:43):
say a curse, so I'm going to sayit's like shit or get off the
pot.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I have no choice but to dive into this, but I'm
terrified and so I'm curious,like for your experience.
It's like I'm so scared that ifI really showed everything, all
of it that I you know, there'sa fear of of like literal
persecution.
It's like past life stuffcoming up, being like if you
show your power, they willliterally kill you.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yes, yes, crazy, I mean.
Maybe not, though I.
So that's, and that's why Istarted this work, because,
first of all, I'd always beenvery, very interested in past
lives.
Like that was the other thing,like all we get interested in
reincarnation had tons of booksas a kid, like that's the one
thing my parents did sanction,like a lot of spiritual books, a
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lot of dream books, a lot of,you know, like I had, I had
those, those things in my reach.
And so from past life work, Iwould get a lot of clients who
were in some way shape or form,medicine, women, healers,
midwives, doctors In somecapacity.
They all had a witch wound andin many of those lives not so
(25:54):
pretty, didn't always make itout alive, and this is for
hundreds and thousands of years.
It's been like this over time.
So we, technically, you know,and also witches, healers, you
know, we are here for theoppressed.
We're not necessarily here.
We're here to really helppeople that are disenfranchised
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and struggling, and you knowthat's our purpose, because
that's who we are.
And so over time it can be veryscary, especially because I had
been trying to assimilate withthe oppressor.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I've been trying to yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I've been trying to assimilate with the oppressor so
I was like nothing to see here.
I'm not rattling a snake infront of you.
You know like.
You know, like, so I had triedto assimilate for so long in all
these different ways and Irealized, well, I'm trying to
assimilate with the Jews, I'mtrying to assimilate with the
Christians, I'm trying toassimilate and I don't even know
(26:54):
myself, you know.
So it got to a point where,once I made peace with myself, I
realized that I was makingpeace with the witch wound.
I didn't realize, like, like,my whole self really identifies
as a witch in ways, not justwith the term, but if you really
look up, like, what a witch is.
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I mean, it was everything thatI stood for, everything that I
am, everything that I believe in.
And so it got to the pointwhere, like, I had to accept
myself so much and love myselfso much and believe that the
people that are falling away aremeant to fall away because they
(27:36):
don't see me in the extreme.
Also, I find online is safer forme because if you're going to
say something, mean, I can blockyou.
I'm not going to die from that.
You know what I mean.
Like, so I feel safer in thislife because right now I'm
expressing it all behind ascreen, if you're going to call
me a name.
(27:56):
I'm like I've been there, youknow, like I'm good, you know, I
know.
I know the names, I've heardthese things and it's really
just about knowing truly in myheart where I stand.
If I know that within my spirit, my heart, I am good, I'm doing
what's good and right for me,then it helps, it's protection,
it's that shield of armor, butit's it's not easy to feel also
(28:21):
like you're shunning anyone else.
That's also not my intention,but people that that feel
shunned, that are not normally,you know, just have to
understand that like we are alsohere for a specific type of
person, a type of audience.
But I get it because, moving,shifting from voice teaching,
I'm using the same account thatyou know I started my music
(28:42):
business with, so I've had thisaccount since 2014.
It used to be Cam and Music, soI had people following me on
there from that life where Ijust got out of college and I
was just a little baby and I was, you know, like so tender and
now really starting to see whereI stand, like where I draw the
line in the sand and where youknow where my beliefs are.
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And it's scary, like I amscared every day I'm posting.
I'm posting like big themes forpeople to chew on, but also
like I have found a secret thirdaudience.
It's not necessarily the peoplethat followed me for just the
spirituality or just the voiceteaching, but there's like this
third group that's comingthrough that loves that.
(29:27):
I do both.
So I also say, like you know,you're going to get those people
and the more we dive deep andlike heal these wounds, the more
we feel we can be out there andperforming again and things
like that.
So I find that the more I dothis work, the more also I feel
called to share maybe a littlediddy or two on my page, like
I've felt called to sing a bitmore and people can feel
(29:49):
inspired to sing as well.
So it's not like I'm alsoforsaking any, any of my past
things that I've enjoyed, butI'm also now integrating it a
little bit more.
It looks different, it shifts,but it's all still me.
You're just seeing it indifferent lights.
You're just seeing thosedimensions shift and change as
we grow, as we grow on thisearth.
(30:09):
So it's been, it's been, I'mplaying with it.
It's not all easy.
I have people that I loverejecting me.
I have people that I don't knowrejecting me, and you know it
can be.
It can be tricky, but you knowwhat it's like.
I've been through harder and wecan move through this, you know
.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Well, that brings me to a question that I feel is
sort of like a juicy question,cause I really I wanted to ask,
like you know, are there toolsthat you've gained from doing
this past life work that help inthis process of sort of nursing
this witch wound, the impostersyndrome, the rejection, because
(30:50):
that, like, I don't know aboutyou, but if I get you know,
thank God I don't have a ton ofhaters yet just because I've
been keeping a pretty lowprofile so far, because I've
been playing it safe and it'sdone.
I'm done playing safe.
But when I've gotten a few likehate comments to me, it's like
somebody like sticking a swordin me.
(31:10):
I know, I know I've got acancer moon, I'm a sensitive
girl, I know.
I'm a strong, badass chick butlike I have a sensitive little
like inside I'm marshmallow.
So I'm just curious, likebecause to me that's like okay,
so you might not be actuallyhurting me physically, but like
it hurts.
So I'm curious you know, fromprocessing and integrating your
work, your past life work, youknow how do you bring that into
(31:34):
your life now, like otherspecific tools that you use.
Yeah, what can you share aboutthat?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, a lot of it.
Really.
For me, the way I do it is alot of mindset work and a lot of
I'll do candleworkings aroundit.
So I will literally and I'llmeditate with my phone open on
Instagram and cleanse it so.
So there are several things.
So I will set the intention toalso remove all evil eyes off my
(31:59):
phone.
So that's one thing.
But to like go into detail withthat, you can just have your
screen open or a screenshot of,like your face and the name and
everything and just sending itpositive intentions and removing
any entities from that kind ofspace, really imagining it as
like a 3d kind of space.
And that one I actually gotfrom Capitolia.
(32:20):
She, she walked us through ameditation in which in famous
last spring about, and it was sohelpful to me because at that
point I was really visualizing.
You know, it's really about howyou visualize people receiving
you.
If I'm in a weird space andI've had a weird interaction, I
suddenly think now all 20,000people feel that way, but that's
(32:41):
not true.
That's just that one person.
So it's about also likehypnotically removing that one
little person, not allowing themto be the main theme of your
page now, but just like a little, nothing, like I'm just
removing an ant and removing alittle piece of flint you know
lint, whatever but you know, sothat candlework I will do like a
(33:03):
cord cutting.
If I had a weird specific eventor if I feel honestly, even if
I'm feeling weird aboutconsuming someone else's content
and that's giving me a weirdvibe, I will also remove myself
from their space If I feel likeI'm giving them the evil eye and
I'm like, yeah, like if I findthat coming up, I'll be like I
don't like this in me, so I'mgoing to remove myself, so I
(33:24):
don't do that to them.
So that happens to not as much.
But you know I'm not perfect.
I'm still human.
We can still be like cringe.
You know it's like it's normal,I think it's.
You know I think so manyspiritual teachers out there we
want to, we want to just looklike a perfect.
You know perfect, good, neutral, that's like you're allowed to
be like kind of about people.
So those tools have helped.
(33:45):
And as far as my past life work, you know when you do this, you
know I do this hours every weekat this point because you know
most people are booking two hoursessions and so for many hours.
I have seen countless deaths.
I have witnessed countlesspeople trying to just help the
(34:05):
collective and get hurt andreally I think, as healers, we
are waking up to this idea thatyou know we are.
We are the special ones rightnow because we have so much love
and care in our hearts andthat's why it hurts.
So it's not a bad thing that weget hurt.
It actually shows our empathyand shows that we are good
(34:26):
people.
But at the end of the day, wehave to really remember how
powerful we are, that thesesmall people feel like saying
like two little curse words atus is going to do anything.
So it's really aboutenvisioning yourself as the
grandtide priestess of your,your corner and that these
people are just the small youknow.
Also, I like to also usearchetypes.
Jesus was not well liked by alot of people, so I think you
(34:49):
know this is true.
Listen, at the end of the day,I hone in on archetypes.
Who?
Who was persecuted through timeand and also then became a huge
archetype for us all to love.
These people that weresocialists, that were lovers of
people, these people that saidthings that were quote
(35:11):
blasphemous, but it was reallyjust like being a prophet, being
someone that stood by God andthe word and didn't want to
control people.
So I think of Jesus a lot.
I think of Mother Mary when Iwant to show compassion to
people.
So I do a lot of archetypalwork.
I work with my ancestors, whoare wise and well.
(35:32):
I work with you, know mycandles and everything.
So these are all tools that Iuse to spiritually affect my, my
internet space and also justremembering, like not to always,
like consume so much that youthink that that's your real
world, because I think it hurtsmore when we think that this is
(35:52):
our real world, like this littlescreen, and it's not like I'm a
whole mother, I'm a wholespiritual worker, I'm a whole
life.
I am a whole Trader Joe's fan.
Okay, like I, there's moreparts to me.
So it's just about honing in.
What makes you multifaceted.
Who are the people remembering?
The people that love and carefor you.
(36:14):
But it comes with a lot of work.
You have to build thatcommunity first.
You have to build that safespace around you so that those
little things don't bother youand you have people to go to to
say like they will mean to metoday.
You have to go to somebody totell.
You have to tell someone andthen you have to also realize
that at some point, if you'retelling the same person the 10th
(36:35):
time like this person is me andthey know you're all that and
you know you're all that it getsridiculous to even care.
So there comes a point where ithappens so much, the
persecution can happen sofrequently.
I really enjoy the small momentsof peace.
But also you know you can blockcertain words now, certain
(36:56):
comments, certain, so I justlike I go in there, I'm like
ugly, stupid.
I just type in like I don'twant to see these words.
So I just also protect it's aprotection spell Also within my
comments like I will protect thespace and be like this is a
space for people like this.
If you don't agree, pleasedon't comment.
You will be blocked, you willbe deleted because this is a
(37:18):
safe space for my community.
I'm not.
I'm open to feedback, but I'mnot open to bullying and that's,
that's a big thing.
I'm open to feedback, I'm opento hearing if I've done any harm
.
But if you're just here to likeshout at me please, please, go
find another, go find another,go find another.
So that's where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
That's where you're at.
I love that.
So another question is you knowyou mentioned these tools and
well, I am curious.
Before I ask this otherquestion, I am curious could you
explain a little bit about whatcandle work is, because I feel
that there's some I mean for meas well, like I work with
(37:59):
candles all the time but I havesort of my own way that I do it
and I'm really curious like whatyou do.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah.
So I've learned candle workingsfrom multiple teachers and the
main thing is that you know youget two candles if you're doing
a candle cutting or something.
It's really a visualization andit's less about oh my god, I'm
hexing people or you know,witchcraft, but more so about
planting these seeds in yoursubconscious and when you, when
(38:28):
you are gazing upon a candle,psychologically what's happening
is you are, you are envisioningthe thing happening.
So if you are seeing, I meanthere's a spiritual explanation
to this and then there's also,just like science backed.
So if you are looking at acandle and it's represented, one
candle is representing you.
One candle represents the otherparty.
(38:51):
Let's say it's, it's been arough relationship and you're
ready to finally start thosetoxic cycles.
A lot of people come to me likeI just want to be done with him
.
We're broken up, but I alwaysgo back.
I see this a lot.
So let's say it's you and thatother candle and they represent
you.
Know, each candle representsone and what I'll do is I'll tie
twine on one candle, have itattached and tie it on the other
(39:14):
side.
You can also dress your candlesand by dressing you'll put like
some sort of oil that is usedfor a particular reason.
So let's say you want to havean uncrossing.
So I have many different oilsthat I work with and mostly I
get them through bossy brujha.
But you can also get them andthey all come like this, and so
(39:37):
I'll.
I work with oils a lot justbecause I have a strong sense,
sensory memory.
So when I smell things, when Ifeel things, it helps my magic,
and so I'll use different oilsthat represent different things
that they carry out.
So let's say you want more love, or you want less, or you want,
you know you want things to bedone.
(39:58):
You would then consecrate ormake that candle really emulate
that vibe, kind of.
So you can do that and then youcan add I also add like herbs,
like if I want more mentalwellness, and you know there's
just all different herbs thatyou can use, that that assist
you in these things, becauseit's also it's all psychological
(40:20):
, it's the thing that I'mgrabbing and I'm mindfully and
intentionally putting this onthe candle and this is going to
represent that I'm protected andsafe and things like that.
And then you light it at thesame time and over over the
course of an hour, the you knowthe string will then break, and
that is to also subconsciouslyplant the seed that it is done.
(40:41):
We are very powerful creatureswith our minds and it's
important for us to visualize.
So I use it as a visual aid, Iuse it as magic, I use it as a
way to signify that the thing isdone, and I will film this for
my clients and show them andI'll read it too.
(41:01):
So it also depends on how it'sburning and you know who's
coming out on top.
Maybe the other person already,so let's say the X, the flame
broke off first from him.
That then shows us that thatperson already was gone.
So they were already not eveninvested.
So the reason why you'refinished is because you're
(41:23):
feeling that a lot of women feelthis kind of like something's
off.
He's not him, you know.
So that'll happen a great dealas well.
So yeah, that's kind of how Iuse my candle workings.
I will also do like singularcandles as well.
If somebody is harming othersand harming themselves, I'll
bind them to make sure thatthey're protected.
But mostly, you know, it's allfor protection, it's all you
(41:46):
know, for the common good.
You know I'm trying not to hurtanyone per se, but that's
technically like how I work withmy candles and of course, like
I have my whole altar I use.
I use candles, you know, torepresent all my deities and you
know like they'll all be likemy little prayer candles.
But yeah, I got a whole teamover there, it's got like a
whole football team of candlesover there.
Yeah, of course I just usecandles to visualize, you know
(42:10):
like, so that's like my main, mymain thing for candleworking.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I love that.
Wow, Wow, Wow, Very useful,Very useful.
So that leads me into, Isuppose, what my last question
is.
And you can really take it,take this and run, take it where
you want to go.
It's sort of like amultifaceted question, of course
, which is really about how doyou?
It's a multi, multi, multitiered question, perhaps, like
(42:36):
sure, sure, sure.
First is, how do you nurtureyour inner muse, this gift every
day, and or is it every day?
And so that sort of leads intothe next question, which is
because I'm just personallycurious are there times or
moments when you know thatthere's something that you could
(42:56):
do, that there is some magicthat you could do to help with a
certain situation and you, howdo I say, sort of resist it or
drag your feet with it a littlebit?
Or are there times where, likenurturing this gift and like
using your gift feelschallenging, and it's not even
the right word for it, but it'salmost like I'll put it.
(43:16):
I'll put it in the frame ofreally how I'm thinking about it
which is I don't know if you'veever seen this meme where, like
it's this girl, she's like oh,I'm so sad, or whatever,
whatever.
And then somebody's like you'rea witch girl, you're a witch,
yeah For sure.
I guess it's like for mesometimes.
That's.
That's sort of where I feelsometimes.
Where I was talking with mypartner about this the other day
(43:37):
, I was like you know, if Icould just wave my fingers and
like have this be done, you know, magically?
I would you know if I couldjust snap my fingers magically?
And he was like well magic and Iwas like, damn, you're right.
So like there's times where Iknow that I'm in need of like
using my own tools.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
And I forget.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
but I'm also kind of like there's like comfort and
being like I'm just a normalperson and I'm in the victim
hood and there's something kindof like I don't know alluring
about that of like do you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yes, I think also it's like sometimes it's a
burden, because who heals thehealer, you know.
So I think it's so normal forus to also be like and like I
was.
I was sick last week and I'mletting a lot of you know events
move through me and a lot ofgrief is happening to us as a
collective, no matter why.
And so when I get sick andeverything I, you know, all I
(44:31):
want to do is be in bed, but Ialways hear that voice.
It's like go to your altar, goto your you know, like I hear
the spirits because the spiritscommunicate with me like this,
like as a constant thought.
I got to, I got to do this.
I've been ignoring this, I'vebeen that's spirit talking to me
.
You know, it's not my OCD, thatis, you know, because I could
be, I could be OCD about thelaundry that's backed up.
(44:53):
So so I know that my spiritsare communicating with me and
I've gotten so much stricterwith how I show up.
But when life happens, it'shard sometimes to show up, but
luckily, what I've done to makeit easier.
I mean, obviously, like havingmy own home.
I am very privileged to have aspace designated in my office.
(45:17):
I'm very privileged that myfamily is fine with this.
So these are all other thingsIf you're listening and you
don't have space for this, youknow.
So I want to acknowledge that Ido have space to sit and be
with myself and be with myspirits, and I used to do it in
my closet.
I used to call it my meditationcloset.
(45:38):
But you know, like, whereveryou can find it, whatever piece
you can find within yourselfwhile you're going through hard
times, is so helpful.
I think, if we all are herereminding people, whether
witches, healers or not, we allforget sometimes to take care of
ourselves.
We all forget to motherourselves and reparent ourselves
.
So for me, because now it is myfull time work, I've gotten so
(46:03):
much better at showing up at myaltar twice a day, especially
during the winter, more sospring and summer.
I'm like, hey guys, like I do,you know, more of a quick one
and I can feel but I feel myconnection lowering.
You know what I mean, like youcan feel that a little bit of
disconnection, though they arewith me always, I find that you
(46:26):
know, when I'm sitting here andreally just like being in this
space, you know I'm here, butalso there's life to live.
So there's there's definitelybalance.
It's all about balance always,and I think you know some days
I'm lifeing a little bit morethan I am spiritual, but but
that's what being spiritual is.
It's just about like allowingyourself to just live as well,
(46:47):
as well as you can.
So, yeah, I want to say thatlike finding a routine that does
work for you helps, especiallyin the beginning.
I say you know, if you can makeit I know it's not always easy
in the mornings for people, butI say, if you can make 10
minutes, carve 10 minutes atnight.
People come to me all the time.
I don't know where to start.
I'm like one candle sit.
(47:08):
I'm like it's really like thisis not so hard.
This is what I, you know.
But I think we we've lostpatience or we think that it's
going to be some divine miracleand it's like just connect in
some way and connect.
For me, connecting with a lovedone is the easiest way to start
, like connecting with my, myaunt, who passed was the real
(47:29):
way.
I mean anyone that had passedin my family was how I knew I
could connect with the dead.
So I'd been doing that since Iwas little, so for me it's easy
to think like, oh, okay, I'mgoing to connect with my aunt,
I'm going to connect with thisperson.
So, starting small also, juststart with someone.
You know someone, you'refamiliar with their energy, so
you know when they come up, oh,this is my aunt, this is grandma
(47:51):
.
Because you can feel thedifference and I think when you
start there it really is a nicegateway to other spirits that
you might want to work with.
Again, all these things used toscare me before I did shout a
work, before I realized you knowthere's far scarier things in
this earth than what you couldeven do to imagine what's
(48:14):
happening on the other side.
And as long as you're protected, you're calling in wise and
well people, spirits you knowyou'll be protected and it's
just about believing that too.
So those are all my tricks andtips right now.
I love that, I love that veryuseful, yes, very wise.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
And you're right, it is as simple as lighting a
candle.
That's just one candle, morningand evening, just one.
I do one candle in the littleJapanese incense stick and I'm
like, okay, this is me and thisis not all you need my daily
thing.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Or even if it's like you know, you, you, you're in
the shower and you're reallytaking a minute to let the water
wash over you.
You know it's taking spiritualbaths has been transformative
for me too.
But yeah, starting so smallbecause I think it's just so
easy to grab a $2 candle and sitwith your, you know what I mean
.
So, yeah, those are.
(49:06):
Those are all.
That's what I would suggest forsure.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, I love it, I love it, I love it All right, so
we're going to wrap it up there, even though I know that
there's so much more like you'resuch a beautiful well we'll do
a part tool, part two.
Ladies and gentlemen, so towrap it up, I would love for you
to share with our listener ifthere's anything interesting or
fun you have coming up and howthey can work with you and how
(49:31):
they can reach you and find you.
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Sure.
So you can find me on the pastlife which dot com or on
Instagram at the past life which, and right now I'm booking for
I'm doing currently some morewhich work.
So I'm doing those candleworkings and those jars and
things like that as we head intowinter and you know I want to
hermit all the time.
(49:53):
But I'm also doing, obviously,past life regressions which come
in one and two hour packages.
So if you are a mom on the goor if you are, you know you're
on limited time and don't havethree hours to devote to
traveling to a past life.
I've made shorter sessions thatare also more affordable for
most people.
(50:14):
So my goal is to help morepeople on a larger scale while
also being a little bit moreprice inclusive.
So I have a lot of differentthings that I offer, from
literally free, from my podcastto just free downloads and
things like that, to a wholesliding scale that moves upwards
(50:34):
, but I try to include all kindof all types of price ranges so
that everyone can experiencesome sort of healing.
So, yeah, that's that's what I'mdoing as far as psychic work,
and then I'm also I've alsostarted bringing back some
support and care sessions duringthis time where people are just
like having a lot more conflictwithin themselves, within their
(50:56):
homes.
So that is a space that I liketo also like we'll do terror
readings, we also do channeledreadings and also just any any
sort of healing that people needin those sessions.
So I like to create that spacealso for just a space that like
we can kind of work throughwhat's going on, some shadow
work, and just like feelingsupported.
(51:17):
I think you know it's soimportant to have a cheerleader
in your corner and we, we needit, you know.
So that was a big thing too.
I just want to.
I just want to give to people alittle bit more like one on one
, not just in the psychic space.
Yeah, so you can find abeautiful gift.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
We'll have all the links in the show notes, dear
listener, so go ahead, check itout and definitely follow her on
Instagram, because she's alwayssharing really wonderful
content and I'm just so blessedand I feel really happy that you
came on the show to share yourexperience and your voice.
Thanks, all right, my friend.
(51:55):
Thank you for listening.
This has been another episodeof the Ode to Joy podcast.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Thank you so much for tuning into this latest episode
, dear listener.
I hope it was as a joy for youto listen to as it was for me to
have.
I just love having thisconversation.
So hey, if you haven't alreadygo ahead, hit the subscribe
button.
We've got plenty more episodeson the Way to you.
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