January 24, 2025 • 57 mins
What if finding balance in life meant moving halfway across the world? Our journey from the fast-paced hustle of YouTube fame to the serene landscapes of Scotland has been nothing short of transformative. We kick off Season 4 of Raising Ohana by sharing personal stories from our whirlwind collaborations with household names like Disney and Lego, and the toll that lifestyle took on our health. Hear how the pandemic brought an unexpected pause, forcing us to reevaluate our priorities and embrace a slower, more meaningful pace focused on family and well-being.
Ever felt like chasing success was leading you down a path of burnout? Our 2019 was a rollercoaster year, filled with the excitement of working with Nickelodeon but also immense stress and personal struggles. Therapy helped us navigate the chaos, and our Christian faith offered a guiding light towards service and family. Listen as we recount our spiritual journey, which inspired us to engage in service missions and make a bold move to Scotland. This decision was fraught with its own challenges but taught us invaluable lessons about resilience, faith, and the joy of simplifying life.
While it may seem like abundance is the key to happiness, our experiences taught us otherwise. True fulfillment often lies in small acts of kindness and nurturing meaningful relationships rather than accumulating material wealth. Join us as we explore the joys and struggles of adapting to life abroad, highlighting how even simple gestures can enrich our lives and those around us. We also invite you to engage with us across various platforms as we continue to build a supportive and inspiring community. Let's walk this journey of growth and discovery together.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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There we go, it's recording.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
All right, welcome back to Raising Ohana.
I'm Rachel.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm Jace and this is season four.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
That's right.
Episode one so excited we have,if you've seen it, a new space.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It is a work in progress.
We are working on it.
It's getting closer.
But you know what's so cool is,last time we thought we were
starting this whole big season,everything was epic.
We were going crazy and we gotthree episodes done, and then
what did we do?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Nothing no.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
See Okay.
That is actually a perfectexample of how we see things.
I see like growth andopportunity and she's like
whatever, I'm always looking forgrowth and opportunity.
We moved out of the country.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We did move out of the country and we slowed life
down.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So we'll tell you what happened, but not yet.
Let's get into why we slowedlife down.
So because we were done.
I'm Jace, I'm crazy, I'm active, I see lots of opportunity, I
move forward with things.
This is Rachel.
She has six children.
We share these six children,but she birthed them and I was
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just there to support.
I didn't do a very good job,but I was there to support, but
she also sees opportunity andcharges and gets it and does it,
and so yes, that's what we weredoing Going, going, going.
How many YouTube channels did wehave in 2023, which was when
our last episode was filmed,january 2023.
?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Probably eight, which was scaled down from 10.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right.
So we had all these YouTubechannels going.
We were chasing the dream, wewere helping our kids.
They were making money.
We were making money, we werehaving opportunities.
What let's see in 2023.
?
Nope, because January is whenwe decided.
In 2022, we filmed for whatkind of brands?
(02:04):
Actually, any of those coupleyears right there, that were
just madness.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We're going to go back even farther, 2018, we hit
some real big growth on ourYouTube channel, the Ahana
Adventure.
Loved it, it was awesome.
2019 was out of control.
This is where things got socrazy.
We were filming for Disney.
What was it?
(02:30):
Blue studios, lego, nestle,nestle.
We were filming for um likeviral nation, which had like
many um like it was an agency.
Everything star wars, every,every movie coming out like sony
pictures as well as like oh mygosh, I can't even remember all
the things we were doing so manyorganization like brand deals,
where we worked with brands.
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We featured their products onour youtube channel, which we
loved.
It was all products we loved orcompanies that we like to work
with.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We never said yes to ones we didn't and we were
filming, except for the diaperone, that one, uh, that was
actually.
You said no and I said yes.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
We won't get into that, but wewere still putting out in 2019,
five videos a week.
Four to five videos a weekProbably.
We dialed down to four thatyear and we were traveling
almost every couple every othermonth.
We were putting out so muchcontent and that's the year that
, like my health, declinedseverely.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh my goodness, you had to go to the ER how many
times?
Oh, not in 2019.
In 2020.
In COVID, I went to the ER.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And that was beyond crazy.
But we were going because itwas like growth and we were
motivated.
We were so excited and it wasepic.
It really was epic.
We had these grandiose dreamsfor our family.
Our YouTube channels, all thekids' channels, were pumping out
content so much.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Now I'm going to rewind even farther.
We first got married.
It's really far.
You worked at a bagel shop.
I was doing mortgages and somereal estate.
We were super broke.
Then we opened up a littlevideo store, then a scrapbooking
store.
Clay was sitting in the littlebouncer.
You were sitting there or youwere nursing her with customers
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in our store.
I would go throw net fishingjust north of laie point on the
north shore of oahu, literallyto bring fish so that we had
meat, because we honestlystrapped.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We were like constantly strapped we couldn't
even afford 15 years.
I mean like Jason real estatein Hawaii, which was epic.
But not very often do these big, huge deals close that would
pay for six months of our life,before have to pay for three to
six months of our life in thefuture because we were like
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stretching the dollar as far aswe could.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And I mean we were happy, though I mean we were
plugging along and doing all thethings.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So that is a point.
It was simple.
Yes, we had a hard time payingour bills, but we would just
walk down the street from ourhouse and play at the beach, and
it was free.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, I'm going to say, like life in Hawaii,
everyone's in the same boat.
You're all just differentlevels of poor, right?
Like it's just really, reallytrue.
The majority of the people, weall live in this like kind of
semi-poor life, and then there'sextremely wealthy, but there's
in Hawaii, the majority all dothe same same thing.
We all go to the beach, we allsurf, we all play in the water,
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we all like play in the water.
Explain play in the water for meI sit there and watch the baby
skies I did get in the water alot, I love the warmth of hawaii
.
But we, I saw that, I saw thatwink what was that?
I thought only the camera sawthat, oh my gosh, whatever.
But what I thought?
Only the camera saw that wink,oh my gosh, whatever.
But what we're saying is it isthe entertainment is free, the
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people are wonderful, humblepeople, everyone's kind of in
that same boat and we all likejust kind of plug along.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It was great.
Okay, so the reason for thatrewind was that we were so broke
and we were willing to work sohard, but then fast forward from
2009 to 2019, we were stillbroke in our minds.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's true, Once you live in a certain mentality for
a long time whether that's likea nine to five job going to be
changing to an entrepreneur,that's a hard mindset change as
well.
But going from not having a lotof finances really like
stretching the budget, makingsure we can just pay for
groceries, we can pay our bills,we can maybe have enough money
(06:34):
to like which final notice doyou pay first?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Right, that's where we were at, literally.
Which final notice?
Like this, one's red ink ismore red than the rest, so we've
got to pay this more.
Are they gonna kick us out?
Actually gonna turn right?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
yes, and that was for how many years?
15, 15 years of like good job,honey.
And then we finally get into um, where we can save money.
When we started growing youtube, we were able to pay off some
of our debts that we hadacquired from all these
businesses and starting to payoff anything that we had
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debt-wise and starting to have asavings account and starting to
grow that.
But still I felt this is me,it's probably not Jace I felt
broke constantly still, becauseI'm like it's still at the same
time.
No, there's no high five foryou, oh my gosh.
(07:31):
But yes, in 2019, still feelinglike that, even though we had
good savings, I made sure thatwe had savings kids had savings
accounts, all the things, um,and that's, I think, why we were
just pushing.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So hard because we wanted to save way more for the
future.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Exactly, I wanted a nest egg for us for the future,
in case YouTube just blew up, Idon't know, oh, like they did to
us in 2017.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Our first month we were going to have an epic
milestone in 2017, september of17 our channel blew up things
were going on income was comingin music video hit and then,
viral thanksgiving morningyoutube.
Shut down our channel, not shutit down demonetized our channel
off the monetization from itnow we don't.
(08:22):
You guys don't need to careabout that as much, but that was
what was going on in MadamRachel's mind.
I think honestly what if we getfired?
We don't have that asentrepreneurs.
But what if you get fired?
What if you lose?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
this you have to have a savings at any time.
So that's why you have to startand have that preparation for
yourself.
So that's my mentality we'reconstantly broke.
We've got to have this.
Savings.
Do we have enough for so manymonths, years, whatever in the
future?
So fast forward, back again2019, we are pushing and pushing
and pushing more more, moreMerch line employees, more
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employees, new departments ofour company.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
We've got editors more employees, new departments
of our company.
We've got editors, filmers, Imean producers, scriptwriters.
We were growing and we weregoing crazy and it looked good.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It did.
It looked good Like progress.
It was definitely progressivein some way.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But what was happening in this couple year
period was Rachachel and rykel.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Rykel is one of the main friends for legos, so
rachel and rykel every coupleweeks are hopping on all over
the place, flying all over theplace, me and the boys.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
All of us ended up at disneyland to film for disney
world.
Then me and the boys, literallythat night, flew up to new york
to go and film with blue skystudios.
They're the ones that did IceAge and Spy when Will Smith is
the spy and he turns into apigeon, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Anyways, they showed us all that it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But what was funny is I showed up there and we were
running around so fast I forgotdeodorant, so that whole day it
was all these blogger women whoare amazing and successful and
doing all this and whenever I'dintroduce myself, I'm like man,
keep the arms down.
They all thought I hated them,they thought I was sexist
because the way I was acting.
(10:13):
But I just felt so bad that Ididn't have deodorant, didn't
even have time to run down to ashop.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It was a great indication as to how fast we
were moving Exactly, honestly,like we were going from one trip
to the next, coming homecatching up on school, and we
homeschooled, so you know, likewe made sure that they were
bringing school when we weredoing these shoots, we plane
schooled at that point we did.
We did a lot of plane school.
I mean the kids, honestly, theyprobably didn't know how crazy
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it was.
I think they enjoyed, obviouslybecause they would show up.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
they got to go to disney world, they got to do all
these things um, but rachel, ona stage with all these girls
screaming and she's like a lego,like I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, it was, it was amazing it was fun, but it was
high stress, high demand and ittook a toll on our relationship.
We have never fought so muchthan that year of 2019.
Like just fighting constantly.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
We actually hired a therapist to come to our house
and do a two day intensive withus because we needed to figure
it out.
But what's the funny thing?
Here's the crazy part.
There's many crazy parts, butthe most crazy part was we had
no idea it was our choices thatled to that.
We didn't know that we hadchosen to be crazy, that we had
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chosen to have all this.
We were just taking advantage.
Nickelodeon filming in vegas.
Nickelodeon filming here.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Nickelodeon going to la and we were honestly burning
the candlestick from both ends,right, like with a blowtorch.
We were going so hard and stillto this day, like I'm still
feeling the health effects oftoo much burnout.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like Rach, had to have some surgeries because of
this.
Her body was failing.
Thing it was.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
it was scary, it was very scary and honestly we
didn't love COVID.
But we welcomed the effects ofwhat COVID did, like the
shutdown, the time to kind ofslow down and like stay at home.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
We actually welcomed that because I welcomed the stay
at home, the shutdown and allthat I still.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
We're not.
We're not saying like COVIDitself Stay at home as a family,
the results of it.
Is what we needed as a family.
Slow down, we were stillfilming.
We were still filming.
We were still filming yeah, butwe were filming painting murals
on our wall in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
We were like in our house in our backyard, whatever
we could do.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It was so fun, but we slowed down, we slowed down
even more, we slowed down all ofthose things because it got to
a point where more was just moreRight, like we had this talk
just this week.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It wasn't better, it wasn't anything but more.
More is not necessarily growth.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
More is not necessarily better.
All the time it was just more,and for us it was more stress,
more headaches.
It was more growth and moremoney, but at the same time
there was also more cost.
So it wasn't like we weremaking and taking home more
money, it was just getting usedin other ways.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
If it wasn't late in the evening, I'd sing the Mo
Money, Mo Problems song rightnow.
Ah, coming Anyways, so that wasso the wrong song.
No no.
Okay, but there's a movie thatdid this perfectly.
It was Wonder Woman, I think.
The second one, when the guy'slike you can have more, you can
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have more and all these people.
They have more, but it's worsefor them to have more.
I totally remember that, and sowe've seen many friends go
through this, where they'regoing for the more, but the more
is ruining what they had, andwe went through that More
ruining what they had.
And we went through that Moreruined what we had.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Honestly, I say we welcomed the effects of COVID
because we needed a slap in theface.
We needed someone to go.
What the crap are you doing?
You need a reset.
We were so sucked into themiddle of it.
It was like we were in thistornado or hurricane or whatever
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and we were just used to it.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Right, we were just used to chaos and things flying
around us we were the frogs inthe pot and the water was slowly
being turned up and we had noidea we were about to boil to
death yeah, honestly and I amgrateful that we had no idea we
were about to boil to death yeah, honestly.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And I am grateful that we had the opportunity in
COVID to slow down.
Don't say that word anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Just grateful for the opportunity to slow down.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yes, we're grateful for the opportunity to slow down
and to reflect.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Because then 21 was slowly building back up.
You know, like things wereopening, things were doing
things like that and there was alittle bit traveling happening,
and then 22 kind of got back upto speed a little bit more, and
that's when we actually had theopportunity to evaluate in 22
and go do we want?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
more again.
Well, we felt it because from2015, when we started this
business, up until 2019, wedidn't feel that swing.
But from 2020 to 2022, all of asudden, we felt the swing right
the water got turned up way toofast.
We're like oh, we're out ofhere, which led to us being done
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.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We were done with more.
Now that sounds like reallycrazy.
It sounds like we're going tobe lazy and it sounds like we're
ready to just like give up.
But that's not the case.
We wanted to give more to ourfamily.
We wanted to invest more in ourpersonal health, our
relationship health, more thananything, our family health.
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So instead of looking sexy and,oh, we have this big business,
we do all of these things.
We gave that all up so that wecould-.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Have a beer belly.
I'm not sexy anymore.
I'm sorry it's called a rootbeer belly.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Nice honey, nice, thank you, no, but so that we
could have more together.
Yeah, called a root beer belly.
Nice honey, nice, thank you, no, but so that we could have more
together.
Yeah, and that's when we weredone and we decided to leave the
united states.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, we decided to go and do service.
So we're very religious, we'revery christian, we really
believe in serving others.
I think one of our favoritethings up until the decision to
leave the country was when wewent to Africa and did that
service with the wells and thenwe did the big fundraiser and it
really opened our eyes to like,wait a second, we don't just
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need to keep growing this nestegg.
I mean, what's the point If oneof us dies early?
That thing's useless, isuseless.
I mean it'll help the onethat's still here, but it's not
worth.
All the focus we did thatwasn't bringing us closer,
garnering better relationships,taking care of our family
instead of taking care of ourfamily's bank accounts.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And you know what.
What's so funny is I personallyand I don't know if this is all
relationships so you guys needto comment down below or find us
on Instagram and tell us.
No comment down below, you know, find us on instagram and tell
us no comment down below.
Go to comment down below.
Go to our youtube channel watchthis podcast.
But is that something thathappens in a relationship where
one person jace is all about theperspective and the other one's
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sexy is that where she's goingwith?
no, no, I'm saying I had such ahard time slowing that down
because we were so poor for solong that mental was still
really hard for me, even thoughduring 2020 I had my gallbladder
removed.
I had so many like it felt likeulcers consistently.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
But they weren't ulcers, they literally were
stress eating my stomach aliveand that happened to me earlier
in our marriage we just tradedplaces.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
We took turns.
It's so great.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I learned my lesson and then you had to learn yours,
and that sucked, and that doessuck.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And the reason why I think it's funny is because,
perspective wise, I feel like wethink so differently and Jace
is trying to like change my mindand it took literally health
scares to change me and go notime to wake up and slow it down
.
You know, time to refocus.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
See, and so what?
I don't want this to come offas is progress and creation and
building.
Those aren't bad, but it'salmost like when people say, oh,
you know, the money is the rootof all evil.
No, the love of money is theroot of all evil.
Loving money more than people,loving money more than service.
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Loving money more than allthese other things.
And so what we're trying to sayis once we wanted growth just
for growth sake, not for whatthe growth is supposed to do.
Right, eating you're supposedto eat healthy, so your body's
great.
Now, when I eat the entire boxof Oreos in one movie, that's
not great.
That's not great.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That's not sexy and I think that is really.
The key is obviously moderationin all things.
Now, I do think that there arepeople where they have these big
corporations or they grow these, you know these charity
companies, or they have theirbusinesses, and that's great.
Um, in keeping in perspectivehow your family is doing, how
your relationship is doing, youknow, it brings me back to the
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devil.
Wears prada, and there's apoint does he?
though she does.
Oh, I'm just kidding, so thatin the movie the devil wears
prada um, meryl streep is inlike the car with Anne Hathaway
and she like says something.
I love this scene.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And I hate it when she's like.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
She's like, says like , cause she, Anne Hathaway's
complaining Like I have, youknow, I want to go to this, I
want to do this or something,and like my world's falling
apart or something like that.
And she says something likewell, wait till you really have
success, Then you like wait tillall your friends have abandoned
you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Then you'll know you've had success.
I think we should run that clipright here because we butchered
it, but it's totally true,because once you're willing to
give up on everybody for thatsuccess, then you'll know you're
getting there Pause.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Is it recording?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yep, okay.
So with that, you see, whenpeople are willing to give up on
people for success and dowhatever you will with that, but
for us, I always say one thing.
I always say one thing and Iget so frustrated Like I
literally will tell people offin public, out loud if I feel
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like this is the case and Rachgets so embarrassed when it is
policy over people.
I get pissed when people won'tunderstand another person
because they can hide behind acompany policy or some statute
or some other thing, when,honestly, if they were to look
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the person in the eye as a human, they would definitely not do
that, and so I get veryfrustrated.
There's a really good book bythe Arbinger Institute they did,
and I forget the name of itLeadership and Self-Deception,
and it talks about how, when itgives one that's impressive,
what.
You just pulled that out of hat.
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So it's.
There's this great example ofwhen people get onto an airplane
and you sit down and you've gotthe seat next to you open, how
do you look at everyone elsethat gets on the plane when you
have that open?
Oh my gosh, you're like don'tsit down.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, yes, so are you looking at?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
people or are you looking at enemies?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
or are you looking at ?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
robots.
Are you looking at rats?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
That is so interesting because you're
really like, you know, like, oh,I hope.
And maybe if you were like asingle person and you were
hoping to like meet a friend,you'd be like, oh, I hope.
And maybe if you were like asingle person and you were
hoping to like meet a friend,you'd be like, ooh, that person
looks cute, have them sit down.
Or ooh, this person, you know.
So maybe it would be like anopposite view, whereas, like
when we sit and we book a ticketand we leave the middle seat
open, we're like, please, no onesit down, please, because we're
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hoping for a little bit morespace, yep, but let's flip it.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Somebody is tired, Somebody is getting on a plane,
Somebody really wants to havesome room up in the baggage
thing and sit down so they canget to their funeral yeah, but
to you they are some idiotthat's going to take your extra
leg room, right.
And so the whole thing is abouthow you need to see others as
humans.
You need to see one thing forme, when I'm driving down the
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freeway, every once in a whileI'll look at the car next to me
and I literally will say this inmy mind I'll go.
God knows them just as much asme.
They're the main character intheir story.
He loves them.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
That's such a great perspective.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But me, I know all this stuff, I'm this, loves them
.
That's such a great perspective.
But me, I know all this stuff,I'm this.
How can that person be as aliveas I am?
How can that person have goalslike I do?
How can that person be as humanas I am?
And I think the world is tryingto dehumanize everyone that
isn't you, via social media, viaall these other things.
No, it's just NPCs, it's justanons with you know what I mean?
And it's we're humans.
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I mean prick us, do we notbleed?
I mean, let's go intoshakespeare, but we actually are
all humans trying to do this.
Why can't we treat each otherlike that?
Instead of going back to thesubject, just progress, just
growth and out of my way andthat's so true.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You know, I think like this is a really good time
to like reflect and like justtake an inventory essentially,
and I think that's also good todo in all of your, in your life,
in multiple times your life, inyour day, because sometimes we
get caught up when you'redriving and you get road rage
and you forget that they're thehero in their story or they're,
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you know, the one.
That's important, right, andlike remembering people.
So back to our whole, likeprogress for progress and more,
more, more.
We were forgetting about themost important people in our
lives, which essentially is us,right, our family, us as a
relationship and our family, andreally talking about, like
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what's important for our familyand progress, it could be really
important for our family, andreally talking about what's
important for our family andprogress, it could be really
important for our family,because getting out of debt,
that was important for ourfamily Every single prayer, yeah
, every single prayer for atleast 12 of those 15 years, our
children-.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Our cute little girls Would say Please bless us,
we'll get out of debt.
Please bless us to get out ofdebt.
And I don't even know if theyreally knew what it meant, but
they knew that stressed us out.
I mean, I guess we were prayingfor it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
We were praying for it, so that's why they did
clelia brought her little piggybank.
No, and rikel and rikelchristmas would give us their
money, and we were I was like ohmy gosh, that's amazing.
It was was so, it was so sweet.
So it really was a familyaffair in the sense of all of us
had the same family concern.
We wanted to get out of debt sowe could provide more
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opportunities for our family.
So the progress was a greatthing.
In the beginning it was awesome.
We got to spend more timetogether doing some family trips
.
We got to spend money forafterschool curricular
activities like sports, all thethings we wanted.
That's what it was there for,and then it just became too much
.
It was more, and we were doingmore for more sake and not
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thinking about how importantthis relationship is.
And maybe this relationshipneeds to just sit down and have
a conversation and not film somany videos and fly across the
world.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
This relationship is supposed to be more.
That's what was supposed to bemore, and what were we teaching
our children at the time, In thebeginning?
Sacrifice for the greater right.
We are trying to do all thisgrowth.
But once we got up there, itwas just can we squeeze this
trip in with this trip?
Can we make this brand changetheir dates for this?
Can we just have more?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
more, more, more more .
That is what our family wanted.
We thought that's what the kidswanted.
We thought this was going tobenefit the family.
So that's when we go back tothat word for myself, when we
reflect and we take like apersonal inventory of what is
important.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Explain personal inventory.
I'm very I would love to hearyou explain that really quickly.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Honestly this could be a whole other podcast but I
absolutely love, I follow and Ilisten to a lot of people that
do thought work and where wethink about like how important
and how powerful our thoughtsare.
But a personal inventory isreally just reflecting.
If we're going to do physicalpersonal inventory, I do that a
lot because my stomach will hurtif I eat certain things and I
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inventory all the things thatI've done pro for my body and
maybe things that have affectedmy body in a negative way, Like
we went to the movie.
Did I eat too much popcorn?
Did I?
eat these things that Ishouldn't have, or did I offset
it with?
I had a lot of water.
I exercised today, I moved mybody, I got enough sleep, right.
That's an inventory.
But now, emotionally ormentally, we take a personal
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inventory of how are my thoughts.
Am I feeling stressed?
Is this work too much for me?
Is this whatever too much forme?
Am I feeling stressed?
Is this work too much for me?
Is this whatever too much forme?
Am I feeling not just satisfied, because I hate that word, I
hate satisfied from EmmaHamilton.
But you know, like, kind oflooking through our life and
(27:20):
going, is this giving me thepositive things that I need
emotionally, spiritually,mentally, as well as offsetting
maybe some of those negativethings that happen to us?
Stress?
Or you know, like that burnoutthat we're talking about, like,
how is that inventory working?
Am I spending enough timeemotionally or like in a
relationship with my spouse?
How is that doing?
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How is that going Right?
Or we're going to pause onemore time?
Are we burning up?
So, with personal inventory,there's many ways to do it.
Whether you write it down,journal, there's so many
different techniques.
But that, I think, helps us tokind of regulate if we are in a
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good zone right, like kind ofstaying in the focus zone of
what we want to do and whatwe're like, what our goals are
for our family, our relationshipand things like that.
Is that what you were thinking?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, because for me we've owned so many different
retail type businesses For meit's just inventory, Like how
many shirts do we have, how many, how many of this?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
How many kisses did I get from my husband today?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Definitely not enough .
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know I'm always there for more kisses definitely
not enough.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You know I'm always asking more kisses, but for me
and our family, that inventory,what I noticed was more was
empty, more wasn't fulfillingand so we were looking for more
because our spirits I think wenaturally or spiritually want to
help others.
Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'm going to step in really fast.
I heard this quote and I haveto share it.
I love the quote because we arequite religious people.
I love the quote because itresonates with me really well
that we are spiritual beingshaving a human experience.
Not human beings have anyspiritual experience.
Absolutely true.
So we have to fill thespiritual bucket, right, like
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those are the things that ourspirit needs.
But in this life I think we getcaught up in the human needs,
right?
I mean we definitely have allthe human needs.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
We have them all Well it's carnal, that's what our
body wants.
Our body wants all thesedifferent things, but our spirit
is supposed to be in control.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Oh my gosh, we need to do a whole different podcast
on this and like indulgence,because I've done a ton of study
on this, but I think we need tostay focused on where we're
going, because this is so trueand we've had great discussion
on this because we get sucked in, especially for me and my
health.
I find that I get sucked inbecause I have these cravings
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for sugar and I have thesecravings for salty things or
whatever it is.
Are you doing?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
this.
You're doing this cravings forsugar lots of cravings for sugar
, but.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
But I go and I eat certain things and my body feels
worse.
So giving into thoseindulgences, those physical
things, wasn't actuallyfulfilling me.
But at the same time I mighthave been needing a emotional
need or a spiritual need, and soit was portrayed in a physical
need.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, so we're going.
After all this, we decide thatwe need to calm down.
We didn't even know how much weneeded to calm down, but we knew
we kind of needed to calm downand so we started looking for
opportunities in our church todo more service.
And our church, the way it'sorganized, is, everybody that
lives within the geographic area, goes to one of our chapels and
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it depends on where you live,right, and that's called a ward
and our ward attends at 10 am atthe chapel.
That's right here.
All the people in that wardhave different callings.
You're not paid for these, it'sservice, these it's service.
And so one of my callings at thetime was one of the people that
was I don't even know how you'dsay a little bit more in charge
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, which doesn't mean you're atthe top of the pyramid.
It means it's an invertedpyramid and you're at the bottom
trying to hold it all up, andso it's not.
Some people look up to it, butto me it was just I am called to
serve more.
So that was very fulfilling forme.
We were so busy I was, it wasgreat, I was very needed and
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Rach had a calling with theprimary children, which is, the
younger children up to age 12,up to 11.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I got to teach them songs and music and you were all
in and songs that were allaround.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Basically, she spent hours every week preparing these
songs and the lessons thatwould go with them, so that we
can learn these songs.
And these are the lessons thatcome from this and, anyways, it
was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
It was wonderful, it was so fun.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
But after Sunday we were like gosh, what else?
But I got released because youonly do these callings for a
certain amount of time to giveeveryone the opportunity to
serve.
I was released from thatcalling and then I was put in a
calling that was in charge ofteaching and helping everybody
that taught lessons fordifferent age groups on Sundays.
I would help them become betterteachers.
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It was wonderful, but literallyit was maybe 30 minutes a week.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
And it's set up in that way so that many people can
help serve in different aspects, as to not obviously overwhelm
one person, because, again, it'snot a profession we don't get
paid to do any of the librarianforever right, but you know so
that you can do this in additionto your everyday life yes and
our everyday life was doing thismore and more and more thing
(32:46):
and we were like, okay, we needto dial that down and maybe do
more of the service thing,because the service is truly
giving us that fulfillingfeeling and, honestly, it's like
creating more love and morepeace in our home as we served
more, and so Rach actually wenton our church's website to look
for service opportunities aroundthe globe, actually went on our
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church's website to look forservice opportunities around the
globe and she had found one inEdinburgh, scotland, and she's
like, hey, we could go and beyouth leaders for the 18 to
30-year-olds and organize stuffand be all in charge of that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Do activities and fun things and found out we do not
make the qualifications, becauseone of the nicer qualifications
, because one of the nicerthings or one of the policies
with our church is that if youhave children at home, you can't
go out and do one of these bigthings, because your children
are more important than thesetypes of things.
The more, more, more you canget into that in the service
area as well, as you could.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
What Jason's talking about is essentially doing more
full-time service.
Well, as you could.
What Jason's talking about isessentially doing more full-time
service, much like our childrenhave.
So if you followed our family,our oldest child, clay, and in
the youth in our church, they goand they give up a year and a
half to two years of their lifeand they do full-time service.
So they go anywhere around theworld in the United States, all
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over the world and they teachWait, they submit.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'll give you a quicker.
They submit, they choose ifthey want to go or not.
Nobody's forced to.
They choose it.
They fill out all theirpaperwork and they put it in,
and then the church says okay,well, you are called to go here
or else everybody would just sayI want to go to Tahiti.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's so true.
So Clay went to Brazil, and nowour second oldest, raquel, is
serving her full-time mission inRome, and both of them it was
for 18 months.
So what Jason's talking about isin our neighborhoods we go and
we serve weekly.
We go and serve on Sundays,maybe sometimes in the middle of
the week, so it's notdisrupting really your family
time, because that's what it'sfocused on.
The thing I really enjoy aboutour church is it is family
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focused and then churchsupported.
So the church is supposed to besupporting the families, which
is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But what we wanted to do is we wanted to kind of
serve a little bit more of afull time kind of service thing
somewhere in the world, soselfish.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
We thought it would be really fun, but they
discouraged that when you havechildren at home children still
in school because they don'twant you to not focus on your
family, which I think is a greatplan.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Absolutely.
But for us with homeschooledchildren, digital businesses and
a load of time on our handsbecause we canceled all these
other channels and all theseother things that we were doing
these.
I sold the shares of my companyto my business partners.
I sold another one of mybusinesses to the president and
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he bought the whole company andtook that on.
So I literally was basicallyretired, and so I went and
bought myself a watch because Iknew nobody else would, because
I've never actually had a realjob.
But now we had this bigopportunity all this time and so
we wanted to do this.
There were the ups and downs oftrying to figure out a way, but
we ended up on a road trip toScotland.
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We ended up going to church andall the right church leaders
that could make certaindecisions like this were sitting
there in the building.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It was meant to be.
And then this madam was like,hey, you should go talk to him.
I was like you should go talkto him.
Hey, you should go talk to him.
And he's like I don't want to.
And I'm like, no, you should gotalk to him.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
No, you will go talk to him.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
And we ended up talking to them and saying, hey,
if we be able to help and be ofservice in this area.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
She's making it very official sounding.
It was kind of in jest.
I was like, oh well, you know,I mean we could always move here
and help out.
They're like don't tempt us.
I was like, no, actually don'ttempt us.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
So it literally started like that and turned
into a beautiful it justhonestly, we really felt.
We really felt that the lordwas like yes, you should do this
, this will be good for yourfamily this is what will help.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
The scriptures say a burzing, a burzing, uh burning
in the bosom.
It literally like we had firein the bosom.
We were like I like was somotivated we felt this is the
next step so that next step weended up confirming, with them
saying, all right, if we cameout here, would you actually
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have something for us to do?
And they're like well, actuallywe would need people in charge
of communications and PR andinterfaith work.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
We know how to do that, yes.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
And I love studying world religions.
We did not fill these shelveswith all the books that I have
because we were trying to decideto or not.
Of all of the books we have ondifferent world religions and
apocryphal works, all the thingsthat I study and read, I
literally wake up at five and Iread till seven, till everyone
else is awake, and I love thesesubjects and Rach is so good at
(37:55):
it and I'm kind of a nutcase,but I really love it too.
So we said, well, if that's athing social media, interfaith
work, all these things oh mygosh, we would actually love to
come out here for that.
That sounds like a full-timejob to us.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
We, we literally jumped at it.
We jumped at it so much that weput our house on the market to
sell.
We felt that we could go foryears.
We were like we could do threeyears, five years.
I think this would be amazing.
We put our house on the market.
We sold so many things that Iam now-.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Half of my arcade is still gone.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
We sold so many things because we were dead set.
We thought we need to move, sowe put our house on the market.
We sold so many things.
We put offers on homes inScotland.
That's right.
We offered on homes in Scotland.
We worked with people inScotland after the offers fell
through because we learned somethings about buying houses in
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another country.
It's not super easy, but we hadso much help on the Scotland
side.
We made some wonderful friendsand they helped us find a rental
.
They helped us find all thesethings and it was not easy.
You would think that we hadthis burning and we thought this
was the right thing to do anddoors would just open.
It was freaking hard, it wasnot easy.
Like you would think that, likewe had this burning and we
thought this was the right thingto do and doors would just open
.
It was freaking hard.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It was not easy at all.
Probably 14 times, maybe onlythree.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
But we, there were a couple days.
He's like we're not doing it,we're not going.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Well, okay, so we go to one of our church meetings
there's like 300 people in thisone.
It's more of an area one, notjust these little ones here
where we live, just to put thatin there and we go and sit down
and we had just been told no, afew different times on us being
able to go and serve.
This was before we went toScotland, but they wanted us to
come.
Oh, it wasn't before.
(39:43):
Okay, so we had gone toScotland, talked with them.
They wanted us to come, wewanted to go, and we go to this
church meeting.
They're like we need morepeople to serve internationally
from our area.
We're like we're trying youhave the means, you have the
lifestyles that you could takesome time away and go and help
out in these other areas.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
And we're like we didn't physically put our hands
up.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
And then they called some friends of ours they're in
between acquaintance and friendsand they literally called them
to the exact thing they had justtold us no to, but in a city,
in Birmingham instead of inEdinburgh.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
And we were like no, what is happening?
Why can't we go and do this?
I?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
literally almost walked out of the room.
Rach had to put her hand on me.
I leaned over and I said I'mwalking out of here.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
She's like there were some serious words.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I put my elbows on my knees, I leaned my head down
and I sat there grumblingbecause we wanted to do it.
It was the right motives, butwhat's interesting now is it
couldn't have happened that way.
The way that it happened is theonly way that actually would
have worked, and so, once again,I'm a stubborn dirtbag and once
again, we were blessed in somany ways that it happened the
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way that it did.
Oh my goodness, if they wouldhave accepted our offers on our
home, we would have lost so muchmoney and we would not like.
We wouldn't have been able tobuy it and they would have kept
all of our money.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
We learned so many things, and many negative things
, that we learned about livingin another country, which will
be in another podcast.
So stay tuned for that, but wewere so grateful that it was a
little bit harder that our housedidn't sell, because now we're
back in our house, which isfantastic.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
So happy.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
You know, and we're so grateful for all the ways
that it happened, but we dideventually make it to Scotland.
We left, we made it to Scotland, we were done with this life,
but we kind of took some of itwith us.
We took the YouTube with us.
We went from a huge team downto just our family again.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Just to us again.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
And we took our family to Scotland.
We literally sold so manythings and we packed how many
bags?
20?
, 23 bags.
We packed 23 bags, which 12 ofthose were giant luggages, like
the duffel bags that we checked,like massive 50 pound.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
We ended up getting upgraded, and so we were allowed
to pack some of them like fourof them to 70 pounds.
So we had I forget it was likea thousand something pounds we
took to Scotland.
But what's funny is is on theway home we brought just that
much.
We brought more than that back,but nothing that we took there
did we bring back because thekids all tripled in size this
way.
Not like me this way.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
But we literally moved our whole family across
the world and in those duffelswere really just like clothes,
shoes, a lot of books and coats,because it's real cold there.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
And so we arrived.
The house was built in 1745.
We had to heat it with oil andcoal fireplaces.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
We did not know what that meant.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
We didn't know what that meant, we didn't know how
to do that.
We learned that's a very coldway to heat your house and
expensive.
But what ended up happening waswe had breakfast every single
morning as a family and we did ascripture study at, I'd say, 80
, some odd percent of thosebreakfasts in that one room,
looking over the river, at thecountryside.
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I cried when, my last timelooking out that window, if you
want to go and find our actualYouTube channel, don't?
It is so sad.
It was so hard to leave.
We ended up completelyintegrating into our local ward,
just like we had here, but overthere, and instead of three to
six hundred people attending,there was 40 to maybe 70 on a
really big day oh, man and wewere able to help.
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But what was crazy was wethought we were going there to
help others.
It changed.
We ended up going there and theyhelped us.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
It was, it was what happened, an incredible,
incredible thing that we did forour family, and I know this,
this can't happen for everybody,um, and we have like a special
kind of circumstance that itworked out really great for us,
but giving up the more, more,more.
We progressed in totallydifferent ways by not having the
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more, more, more and by goingand serving we gained so much
more.
We're going to do it in the nextepisode, the next podcast
episode, so you're going to haveto listen or watch for that,
because we gained so much moreand there were some things that
we were like.
We learned that we were didn'tlove, we didn't love.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, no, it wasn't all roses and pomegranates it
was.
It was hard, it was hard.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
It was hard, but probably the best growth that we
have had as a couple, as afamily and in relationships with
our kids, like individually,you know, like with our children
.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
So what could other people that might not have the
extenuating circumstances thatwe have, with kids at home and
all this, what are things,normal, people that you looking
at what we did, what are microversions of that or just
different versions of that thatother people can go and do?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I fully believe that service will change your life.
Now I know that there's somepeople that do charities but
really small service and that'sso weird, Like you want to make
this huge impact, Like we did goto Africa and we helped build
wells.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And schools and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
And that was really wonderful and definitely
impactful.
But I'm going to say that thisamount of daily service, weekly
service, that we did where wefocused on service.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It was every day, it was every single day.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Like we, focused on service.
It was every single day Like wefocused on service.
That changed us and that, Ithink, made a bigger impact than
raising $15,000 for wells inAfrica.
Like I mean for me, that's whatI feel.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
You know what we've done.
That, I think, was just asimpactful.
But a micro version of this iswhen we went to the road home
and took blankets and coats andthen you go and serve food and
things like that are the exactsame as this and they won't cost
you tens of thousands ofdollars.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Honestly, there are so many opportunities in every
community and I think we justneed to have kind of our
blinders taken off to whatservice looks like.
I think that service is notnecessarily these huge things
all the time.
Right, we can't go in and serveat the homeless shelter every
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week.
You know, like I know, thatlife doesn't always permit that.
But I think service looksdifferent all around you.
But if you are focusing on iton a daily basis, things will
come up.
I truly believe that if you arepraying for opportunities to
serve someone in your family,serve a community member serve a
neighbor or just helping.
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in some way, the opportunitieswill come, and that literally
like if you're a member of ourfaith or a member of
Christianity, you can serve inyour own congregation, serve in
your own church, asking yourchurch leaders how you can help
people, whether that's just hey,come over for a meal and I'll
feed you.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Can I sweep the building?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Can I sweep the building Literally in Scotland
every three months.
It was our turn as a family inthat ward to clean the chapel
and that's how it is.
All around the world Members ofour congregation take turns
cleaning the chapel.
That keeps the cost down andstuff.
And we're washing windows andwe're vacuuming the you know,
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the rugs and the carpet and it'snot a big deal.
It took our family an hourbecause there's many of us.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
It was actually wonderful.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
But it was fun.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
It was kind of fun.
It sucked to get in the car andto go over there, but then it
was wonderful when we got backinto the car when we were done.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Serving lifts your spirits in a way that nothing
else can.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Oh my gosh, think of this.
Your body craves the sugars andthe nasty foods and all of that
stuff.
It thinks that's going to begreat.
Once you eat it, then it'sterrible.
You hate it.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It's a bad feeling your body's like service.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Your body does not naturally want to go and do.
But, by the time you're done.
Your spirit loves it.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yep, and your spirit is craving it more and more.
So, honestly, even though we,the things we were doing in
Scotland, were not life changingone thing, right it was, it was
multiple things.
So we would go and clean thechapel, we would help out in the
youth programs.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
We organized events for gathering youth together to
have fun.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Jace would create honestly like little, like
Instagram, facebook reels ofthings that other people were
doing, other services orspending time with family or,
you know, focusing on yourcommunity, like he was creating
nice, uplifting, happy typethings and sharing it.
This was these are small things, but things that, like,
everyone can do and if we focuson it, even if it's just once a
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week, like oh, I'm gonna do alittle, I wanna increase my
service, maybe I'm gonna say hito my neighbor, maybe my
neighbor wants some cookies,maybe I'm just gonna Pull in
their trash bins for them.
Yeah, like I mean honestly itdoesn't have to be huge and
we're coming up on fall and theholidays.
There's so many opportunitiesraking leaves, going and
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donating old blankets or coats,like Jay said, to homeless
shelters.
You know there are biggerthings that you can do and those
things will be way moreimpactful on yourself, your
family, your relationships, andthat's like such a great memory
to have with your family, likeour kids remember bringing their
old coats that were too smallfor them to wear, old blankets
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that you know we just had newerones and bringing them to the
homeless shelter, right, likethat's a memory that they're
going to keep.
So if we have thoseopportunities, that's something
that's going to last way longerthan, honestly, going to
Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
What I love with this is we don't have like this big
note board and bullet points andwe just kind of see where this
goes.
And in my mind I'm goingthrough this and it was we had
literally almost nothingphysically, or you know,
monetarily, and then we got tothe point where we did, and then
we had anything you could everwant.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
We had all the things we weren't billionaires.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
We weren't like we're all this great, but we could
afford what we wanted.
And then we took it back downto living in this other house
and it wasn't like we went brokeor anything, but we lived a
completely different lifestyle.
And so what's the takeaway fromall of this?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
For me.
I would like to say that thetakeaway is more is just more,
and more can be amazing, but Ithink it's up to you to decide.
Is more beneficial to you andyour family, is it?
You know, taking that personalinventory we kind of talked
(51:21):
about and deciding is this goingto benefit your life in the
long run and your relationshipsin the long run?
Because I think the houses, allthe things, they're going to go
to waste eventually, they'regoing to corrode and they're
going to, like, go nasty, butthe relationship that we have,
the relationships that we havewith our kids, that's what's
(51:41):
going to last forever.
Right, like the stories of howwe spend time together.
That's what's going to lastforever.
So, is more what you reallywant?
Is that something that is goingto help your relationship
progress and get better, or ismore just more?
Speaker 2 (52:01):
So basically that tipping point right, it's good,
good, good, good, good, goodgood, and then all of that good
gets to a point to where it tipsand then it's not actually good
anymore.
Malcolm Gladwell did a book Ithink this one was in David and
Goliath but also the tippingpoint was a good one.
But was that Seth Godin?
Nevermind, but there's onecalled David and Goliath and
there's a point where he sayswhat's interesting at the time
this was like early 2000s and hesaid what's interesting is the
(52:27):
level of happiness people feelafter about $72,000 a year.
Their happiness doesn'tincrease with the income.
That gets higher, and once itgets even so much higher, it
actually goes down.
And there's all these differentcases of where it was really
easy when they didn't haveanything.
When their kids are like mom, Iwant a pony, we can't afford a
(52:48):
pony, it's so much harder.
But then they have all thismoney and now all of a sudden
they're like mom, I want a pony.
Okay, oh wait, now we have topay to.
Now we have to pay to board it,we have to pay to train it, we
have to pay to do this.
And all of a sudden, all thisextra money and all this stuff
you've been working for is whatyou're using to pay for your
houseboat slip and the rentalsand all the different things to
(53:11):
where now?
you're not happier, it's justmore, it's just more stuff.
You're not happier, it's justmore, it's just more stuff, more
.
So for us, what we try is, whenwe start to have some turmoil,
when we start to have issues,we're like okay, have we added
too much in one area?
Where do we need to take awayfrom?
And Rach doesn't like itbecause the way that I do this
(53:31):
isn't very good.
He likes to rip off the bandaidand and take it all away.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
I love ripping, which is finding a balance of when.
That is the right time for that, because if it's like, oh wait,
a second.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
I have cancer that has taken out this part of my
leg.
I would cut the fricker off.
I would I would cut it off.
And so you know, right, likewhen the scriptures if you're
left-eyed, you pluck it out.
If this hand offends, you cutit off, right.
I truly am like if there is acancer in the family, what is it
(54:07):
?
And I'm going to cut it out.
And not children or familymembers or any of that.
That's not what I'm talkingabout.
Is it a certain TV show all ofa sudden we're all watching
that's putting us in a funkymood?
Is it the type of music that'sall of a sudden creeping into
the house that's ruining things?
I will cut things out.
Did we get a new board gamethat's pissing everybody off?
Yeah, I will chuck the boardgame.
(54:29):
I will chuck the ps3.
I will chuck the remote controlguys, he has done it before I
have done it chucked so manythings and it again, baby.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
But I think it's an important thing to note that
he's just honestly, he's justdoing an inventory of what is
good in the home, what is notgood in the home, what is
benefiting the home, creatinggood, better relationships,
creating better experiences andwhat is causing negativity in
the home.
Now, not always is stressnegative, right?
(55:00):
So that's a little bit of adifferent thing.
But I think that that's a hugetakeaway is to take that
inventory of yourself.
And don't be as rash as I am.
Don't be, no, don't.
Don't.
Don't just rip off the bandaid.
Do we still need the bandaid?
We might need the bandaid.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
I promise we won't bleed to death once the
bandaidaid is off, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
But I think it's important to take that inventory
and kind of evaluate if you'removing in the right direction
that you wanted to as a couple,as a person, as a relationship,
as a family, you know or again,is it just more stuff that needs
to be thrown away?
Speaker 2 (55:35):
I think with that, that is the takeaway from this.
Do an inventory, see if themore that you're focused on is
just more, or if that focus isgoing towards something that is
actually beneficial.
And it can be really scary.
We can say this sitting here,because we did this version of
it.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
But if you're in it it is nearly impossible to see.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah hard.
If you're in it, it is nearlyimpossible to see yeah and it
and it is really really hard toto accept somebody else's um
thoughts on what you're goingthrough, you know what I mean.
It's hard for us to do thatbetween the two of us it's very,
very hard, but if you can cometo a state where you can accept
people's thoughts and not, youdon't have to take everyone's in
(56:16):
.
But maybe you think is thissomething I need to think about?
Speaker 2 (56:20):
is this something that you're saying?
Do an inventory of what peopleare saying and giving you advice
on maybe so there's lots ofways you can do inventory.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Comment down below if we should do an inventory
podcast or if you actually wantto hear in our next episode all
the crazy things that we wentthrough living in another
country and the takeaways thatwere not always great.
There was amazing things thathappened which we can share as
well, but there was some reallyhard things so thank you guys
(56:51):
for hanging out with us again.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
We are so excited for this season.
We are going to try as hard aswe can to do an episode every
week, and I am 90% sure we can,unless our week is crazy and
this filming another episodejust becomes more.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
It's never more, because it's valuable for you
guys and for us, and Iabsolutely love it, so we're
going to try.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
So thank you for coming along for our personal
therapy sessions that we'regoing through but comment down
below.
We love the comments.
Go to past videos.
See what other people havecommented on our Raising Ohana
podcast YouTube channel, becauseI am always in those comments.
Rach is in those comments.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
We love to have a discussion and if you are
listening to this podcast,wherever you listen to podcasts,
go and check out our YouTubepodcast or follow us on
Instagram at Rach Bennett andJace Bennett with an S, because
we want to interact with you, wewant to answer your questions,
as well as bring on some expertsas well as some fun friends.
Oh, you've got some epic peopleto discuss some topics that
(57:51):
we've got coming up okay, thankyou guys for watching, listening
and hanging out.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
All right, welcome back to Raising Ohana.
I'm Rachel.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm Jace and this is season four.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
That's right.
Episode one so excited we have,if you've seen it, a new space.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It is a work in progress.
We are working on it.
It's getting closer.
But you know what's so cool is,last time we thought we were
starting this whole big season,everything was epic.
We were going crazy and we gotthree episodes done, and then
what did we do?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Nothing no.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
See Okay.
That is actually a perfectexample of how we see things.
I see like growth andopportunity and she's like
whatever, I'm always looking forgrowth and opportunity.
We moved out of the country.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
We did move out of the country and we slowed life
down.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So we'll tell you what happened, but not yet.
Let's get into why we slowedlife down.
So because we were done.
I'm Jace, I'm crazy, I'm active, I see lots of opportunity, I
move forward with things.
This is Rachel.
She has six children.
We share these six children,but she birthed them and I was
(01:17):
just there to support.
I didn't do a very good job,but I was there to support, but
she also sees opportunity andcharges and gets it and does it,
and so yes, that's what we weredoing Going, going, going.
How many YouTube channels did wehave in 2023, which was when
our last episode was filmed,january 2023.
?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Probably eight, which was scaled down from 10.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Right.
So we had all these YouTubechannels going.
We were chasing the dream, wewere helping our kids.
They were making money.
We were making money, we werehaving opportunities.
What let's see in 2023.
?
Nope, because January is whenwe decided.
In 2022, we filmed for whatkind of brands?
(02:04):
Actually, any of those coupleyears right there, that were
just madness.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We're going to go back even farther, 2018, we hit
some real big growth on ourYouTube channel, the Ahana
Adventure.
Loved it, it was awesome.
2019 was out of control.
This is where things got socrazy.
We were filming for Disney.
What was it?
(02:30):
Blue studios, lego, nestle,nestle.
We were filming for um likeviral nation, which had like
many um like it was an agency.
Everything star wars, every,every movie coming out like sony
pictures as well as like oh mygosh, I can't even remember all
the things we were doing so manyorganization like brand deals,
where we worked with brands.
(02:51):
We featured their products onour youtube channel, which we
loved.
It was all products we loved orcompanies that we like to work
with.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We never said yes to ones we didn't and we were
filming, except for the diaperone, that one, uh, that was
actually.
You said no and I said yes.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
We won't get into that, but wewere still putting out in 2019,
five videos a week.
Four to five videos a weekProbably.
We dialed down to four thatyear and we were traveling
almost every couple every othermonth.
We were putting out so muchcontent and that's the year that
, like my health, declinedseverely.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh my goodness, you had to go to the ER how many
times?
Oh, not in 2019.
In 2020.
In COVID, I went to the ER.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And that was beyond crazy.
But we were going because itwas like growth and we were
motivated.
We were so excited and it wasepic.
It really was epic.
We had these grandiose dreamsfor our family.
Our YouTube channels, all thekids' channels, were pumping out
content so much.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Now I'm going to rewind even farther.
We first got married.
It's really far.
You worked at a bagel shop.
I was doing mortgages and somereal estate.
We were super broke.
Then we opened up a littlevideo store, then a scrapbooking
store.
Clay was sitting in the littlebouncer.
You were sitting there or youwere nursing her with customers
(04:16):
in our store.
I would go throw net fishingjust north of laie point on the
north shore of oahu, literallyto bring fish so that we had
meat, because we honestlystrapped.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We were like constantly strapped we couldn't
even afford 15 years.
I mean like Jason real estatein Hawaii, which was epic.
But not very often do these big, huge deals close that would
pay for six months of our life,before have to pay for three to
six months of our life in thefuture because we were like
(04:48):
stretching the dollar as far aswe could.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And I mean we were happy, though I mean we were
plugging along and doing all thethings.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So that is a point.
It was simple.
Yes, we had a hard time payingour bills, but we would just
walk down the street from ourhouse and play at the beach, and
it was free.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, I'm going to say, like life in Hawaii,
everyone's in the same boat.
You're all just differentlevels of poor, right?
Like it's just really, reallytrue.
The majority of the people, weall live in this like kind of
semi-poor life, and then there'sextremely wealthy, but there's
in Hawaii, the majority all dothe same same thing.
We all go to the beach, we allsurf, we all play in the water,
(05:27):
we all like play in the water.
Explain play in the water for meI sit there and watch the baby
skies I did get in the water alot, I love the warmth of hawaii
.
But we, I saw that, I saw thatwink what was that?
I thought only the camera sawthat, oh my gosh, whatever.
But what I thought?
Only the camera saw that wink,oh my gosh, whatever.
But what we're saying is it isthe entertainment is free, the
(05:49):
people are wonderful, humblepeople, everyone's kind of in
that same boat and we all likejust kind of plug along.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It was great.
Okay, so the reason for thatrewind was that we were so broke
and we were willing to work sohard, but then fast forward from
2009 to 2019, we were stillbroke in our minds.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's true, Once you live in a certain mentality for
a long time whether that's likea nine to five job going to be
changing to an entrepreneur,that's a hard mindset change as
well.
But going from not having a lotof finances really like
stretching the budget, makingsure we can just pay for
groceries, we can pay our bills,we can maybe have enough money
(06:34):
to like which final notice doyou pay first?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Right, that's where we were at, literally.
Which final notice?
Like this, one's red ink ismore red than the rest, so we've
got to pay this more.
Are they gonna kick us out?
Actually gonna turn right?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
yes, and that was for how many years?
15, 15 years of like good job,honey.
And then we finally get into um, where we can save money.
When we started growing youtube, we were able to pay off some
of our debts that we hadacquired from all these
businesses and starting to payoff anything that we had
(07:11):
debt-wise and starting to have asavings account and starting to
grow that.
But still I felt this is me,it's probably not Jace I felt
broke constantly still, becauseI'm like it's still at the same
time.
No, there's no high five foryou, oh my gosh.
(07:31):
But yes, in 2019, still feelinglike that, even though we had
good savings, I made sure thatwe had savings kids had savings
accounts, all the things, um,and that's, I think, why we were
just pushing.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So hard because we wanted to save way more for the
future.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Exactly, I wanted a nest egg for us for the future,
in case YouTube just blew up, Idon't know, oh, like they did to
us in 2017.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Our first month we were going to have an epic
milestone in 2017, september of17 our channel blew up things
were going on income was comingin music video hit and then,
viral thanksgiving morningyoutube.
Shut down our channel, not shutit down demonetized our channel
off the monetization from itnow we don't.
(08:22):
You guys don't need to careabout that as much, but that was
what was going on in MadamRachel's mind.
I think honestly what if we getfired?
We don't have that asentrepreneurs.
But what if you get fired?
What if you lose?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
this you have to have a savings at any time.
So that's why you have to startand have that preparation for
yourself.
So that's my mentality we'reconstantly broke.
We've got to have this.
Savings.
Do we have enough for so manymonths, years, whatever in the
future?
So fast forward, back again2019, we are pushing and pushing
and pushing more more, moreMerch line employees, more
(09:00):
employees, new departments ofour company.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
We've got editors more employees, new departments
of our company.
We've got editors, filmers, Imean producers, scriptwriters.
We were growing and we weregoing crazy and it looked good.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It did.
It looked good Like progress.
It was definitely progressivein some way.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But what was happening in this couple year
period was Rachachel and rykel.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Rykel is one of the main friends for legos, so
rachel and rykel every coupleweeks are hopping on all over
the place, flying all over theplace, me and the boys.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
All of us ended up at disneyland to film for disney
world.
Then me and the boys, literallythat night, flew up to new york
to go and film with blue skystudios.
They're the ones that did IceAge and Spy when Will Smith is
the spy and he turns into apigeon, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Anyways, they showed us all that it was amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But what was funny is I showed up there and we were
running around so fast I forgotdeodorant, so that whole day it
was all these blogger women whoare amazing and successful and
doing all this and whenever I'dintroduce myself, I'm like man,
keep the arms down.
They all thought I hated them,they thought I was sexist
because the way I was acting.
(10:13):
But I just felt so bad that Ididn't have deodorant, didn't
even have time to run down to ashop.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It was a great indication as to how fast we
were moving Exactly, honestly,like we were going from one trip
to the next, coming homecatching up on school, and we
homeschooled, so you know, likewe made sure that they were
bringing school when we weredoing these shoots, we plane
schooled at that point we did.
We did a lot of plane school.
I mean the kids, honestly, theyprobably didn't know how crazy
(10:42):
it was.
I think they enjoyed, obviouslybecause they would show up.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
they got to go to disney world, they got to do all
these things um, but rachel, ona stage with all these girls
screaming and she's like a lego,like I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, it was, it was amazing it was fun, but it was
high stress, high demand and ittook a toll on our relationship.
We have never fought so muchthan that year of 2019.
Like just fighting constantly.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
We actually hired a therapist to come to our house
and do a two day intensive withus because we needed to figure
it out.
But what's the funny thing?
Here's the crazy part.
There's many crazy parts, butthe most crazy part was we had
no idea it was our choices thatled to that.
We didn't know that we hadchosen to be crazy, that we had
(11:28):
chosen to have all this.
We were just taking advantage.
Nickelodeon filming in vegas.
Nickelodeon filming here.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Nickelodeon going to la and we were honestly burning
the candlestick from both ends,right, like with a blowtorch.
We were going so hard and stillto this day, like I'm still
feeling the health effects oftoo much burnout.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like Rach, had to have some surgeries because of
this.
Her body was failing.
Thing it was.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
it was scary, it was very scary and honestly we
didn't love COVID.
But we welcomed the effects ofwhat COVID did, like the
shutdown, the time to kind ofslow down and like stay at home.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
We actually welcomed that because I welcomed the stay
at home, the shutdown and allthat I still.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
We're not.
We're not saying like COVIDitself Stay at home as a family,
the results of it.
Is what we needed as a family.
Slow down, we were stillfilming.
We were still filming.
We were still filming yeah, butwe were filming painting murals
on our wall in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
We were like in our house in our backyard, whatever
we could do.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It was so fun, but we slowed down, we slowed down
even more, we slowed down all ofthose things because it got to
a point where more was just moreRight, like we had this talk
just this week.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It wasn't better, it wasn't anything but more.
More is not necessarily growth.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
More is not necessarily better.
All the time it was just more,and for us it was more stress,
more headaches.
It was more growth and moremoney, but at the same time
there was also more cost.
So it wasn't like we weremaking and taking home more
money, it was just getting usedin other ways.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
If it wasn't late in the evening, I'd sing the Mo
Money, Mo Problems song rightnow.
Ah, coming Anyways, so that wasso the wrong song.
No no.
Okay, but there's a movie thatdid this perfectly.
It was Wonder Woman, I think.
The second one, when the guy'slike you can have more, you can
(13:28):
have more and all these people.
They have more, but it's worsefor them to have more.
I totally remember that, and sowe've seen many friends go
through this, where they'regoing for the more, but the more
is ruining what they had, andwe went through that More
ruining what they had.
And we went through that Moreruined what we had.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Honestly, I say we welcomed the effects of COVID
because we needed a slap in theface.
We needed someone to go.
What the crap are you doing?
You need a reset.
We were so sucked into themiddle of it.
It was like we were in thistornado or hurricane or whatever
(14:09):
and we were just used to it.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Right, we were just used to chaos and things flying
around us we were the frogs inthe pot and the water was slowly
being turned up and we had noidea we were about to boil to
death yeah, honestly and I amgrateful that we had no idea we
were about to boil to death yeah, honestly.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And I am grateful that we had the opportunity in
COVID to slow down.
Don't say that word anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Just grateful for the opportunity to slow down.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yes, we're grateful for the opportunity to slow down
and to reflect.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Because then 21 was slowly building back up.
You know, like things wereopening, things were doing
things like that and there was alittle bit traveling happening,
and then 22 kind of got back upto speed a little bit more, and
that's when we actually had theopportunity to evaluate in 22
and go do we want?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
more again.
Well, we felt it because from2015, when we started this
business, up until 2019, wedidn't feel that swing.
But from 2020 to 2022, all of asudden, we felt the swing right
the water got turned up way toofast.
We're like oh, we're out ofhere, which led to us being done
(15:20):
.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We were done with more.
Now that sounds like reallycrazy.
It sounds like we're going tobe lazy and it sounds like we're
ready to just like give up.
But that's not the case.
We wanted to give more to ourfamily.
We wanted to invest more in ourpersonal health, our
relationship health, more thananything, our family health.
(15:43):
So instead of looking sexy and,oh, we have this big business,
we do all of these things.
We gave that all up so that wecould-.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Have a beer belly.
I'm not sexy anymore.
I'm sorry it's called a rootbeer belly.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Nice honey, nice, thank you, no, but so that we
could have more together.
Yeah, called a root beer belly.
Nice honey, nice, thank you, no, but so that we could have more
together.
Yeah, and that's when we weredone and we decided to leave the
united states.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, we decided to go and do service.
So we're very religious, we'revery christian, we really
believe in serving others.
I think one of our favoritethings up until the decision to
leave the country was when wewent to Africa and did that
service with the wells and thenwe did the big fundraiser and it
really opened our eyes to like,wait a second, we don't just
(16:34):
need to keep growing this nestegg.
I mean, what's the point If oneof us dies early?
That thing's useless, isuseless.
I mean it'll help the onethat's still here, but it's not
worth.
All the focus we did thatwasn't bringing us closer,
garnering better relationships,taking care of our family
instead of taking care of ourfamily's bank accounts.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And you know what.
What's so funny is I personallyand I don't know if this is all
relationships so you guys needto comment down below or find us
on Instagram and tell us.
No comment down below, you know, find us on instagram and tell
us no comment down below.
Go to comment down below.
Go to our youtube channel watchthis podcast.
But is that something thathappens in a relationship where
one person jace is all about theperspective and the other one's
(17:15):
sexy is that where she's goingwith?
no, no, I'm saying I had such ahard time slowing that down
because we were so poor for solong that mental was still
really hard for me, even thoughduring 2020 I had my gallbladder
removed.
I had so many like it felt likeulcers consistently.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
But they weren't ulcers, they literally were
stress eating my stomach aliveand that happened to me earlier
in our marriage we just tradedplaces.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
We took turns.
It's so great.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I learned my lesson and then you had to learn yours,
and that sucked, and that doessuck.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And the reason why I think it's funny is because,
perspective wise, I feel like wethink so differently and Jace
is trying to like change my mindand it took literally health
scares to change me and go notime to wake up and slow it down
.
You know, time to refocus.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
See, and so what?
I don't want this to come offas is progress and creation and
building.
Those aren't bad, but it'salmost like when people say, oh,
you know, the money is the rootof all evil.
No, the love of money is theroot of all evil.
Loving money more than people,loving money more than service.
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Loving money more than allthese other things.
And so what we're trying to sayis once we wanted growth just
for growth sake, not for whatthe growth is supposed to do.
Right, eating you're supposedto eat healthy, so your body's
great.
Now, when I eat the entire boxof Oreos in one movie, that's
not great.
That's not great.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That's not sexy and I think that is really.
The key is obviously moderationin all things.
Now, I do think that there arepeople where they have these big
corporations or they grow these, you know these charity
companies, or they have theirbusinesses, and that's great.
Um, in keeping in perspectivehow your family is doing, how
your relationship is doing, youknow, it brings me back to the
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devil.
Wears prada, and there's apoint does he?
though she does.
Oh, I'm just kidding, so thatin the movie the devil wears
prada um, meryl streep is inlike the car with Anne Hathaway
and she like says something.
I love this scene.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And I hate it when she's like.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
She's like, says like , cause she, Anne Hathaway's
complaining Like I have, youknow, I want to go to this, I
want to do this or something,and like my world's falling
apart or something like that.
And she says something likewell, wait till you really have
success, Then you like wait tillall your friends have abandoned
you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Then you'll know you've had success.
I think we should run that clipright here because we butchered
it, but it's totally true,because once you're willing to
give up on everybody for thatsuccess, then you'll know you're
getting there Pause.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Is it recording?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yep, okay.
So with that, you see, whenpeople are willing to give up on
people for success and dowhatever you will with that, but
for us, I always say one thing.
I always say one thing and Iget so frustrated Like I
literally will tell people offin public, out loud if I feel
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like this is the case and Rachgets so embarrassed when it is
policy over people.
I get pissed when people won'tunderstand another person
because they can hide behind acompany policy or some statute
or some other thing, when,honestly, if they were to look
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the person in the eye as a human, they would definitely not do
that, and so I get veryfrustrated.
There's a really good book bythe Arbinger Institute they did,
and I forget the name of itLeadership and Self-Deception,
and it talks about how, when itgives one that's impressive,
what.
You just pulled that out of hat.
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So it's.
There's this great example ofwhen people get onto an airplane
and you sit down and you've gotthe seat next to you open, how
do you look at everyone elsethat gets on the plane when you
have that open?
Oh my gosh, you're like don'tsit down.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, yes, so are you looking at?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
people or are you looking at enemies?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
or are you looking at ?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
robots.
Are you looking at rats?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
That is so interesting because you're
really like, you know, like, oh,I hope.
And maybe if you were like asingle person and you were
hoping to like meet a friend,you'd be like, oh, I hope.
And maybe if you were like asingle person and you were
hoping to like meet a friend,you'd be like, ooh, that person
looks cute, have them sit down.
Or ooh, this person, you know.
So maybe it would be like anopposite view, whereas, like
when we sit and we book a ticketand we leave the middle seat
open, we're like, please, no onesit down, please, because we're
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hoping for a little bit morespace, yep, but let's flip it.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Somebody is tired, Somebody is getting on a plane,
Somebody really wants to havesome room up in the baggage
thing and sit down so they canget to their funeral yeah, but
to you they are some idiotthat's going to take your extra
leg room, right.
And so the whole thing is abouthow you need to see others as
humans.
You need to see one thing forme, when I'm driving down the
(22:30):
freeway, every once in a whileI'll look at the car next to me
and I literally will say this inmy mind I'll go.
God knows them just as much asme.
They're the main character intheir story.
He loves them.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
That's such a great perspective.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But me, I know all this stuff, I'm this, loves them
.
That's such a great perspective.
But me, I know all this stuff,I'm this.
How can that person be as aliveas I am?
How can that person have goalslike I do?
How can that person be as humanas I am?
And I think the world is tryingto dehumanize everyone that
isn't you, via social media, viaall these other things.
No, it's just NPCs, it's justanons with you know what I mean?
And it's we're humans.
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I mean prick us, do we notbleed?
I mean, let's go intoshakespeare, but we actually are
all humans trying to do this.
Why can't we treat each otherlike that?
Instead of going back to thesubject, just progress, just
growth and out of my way andthat's so true.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You know, I think like this is a really good time
to like reflect and like justtake an inventory essentially,
and I think that's also good todo in all of your, in your life,
in multiple times your life, inyour day, because sometimes we
get caught up when you'redriving and you get road rage
and you forget that they're thehero in their story or they're,
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you know, the one.
That's important, right, andlike remembering people.
So back to our whole, likeprogress for progress and more,
more, more.
We were forgetting about themost important people in our
lives, which essentially is us,right, our family, us as a
relationship and our family, andreally talking about, like
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what's important for our familyand progress, it could be really
important for our family, andreally talking about what's
important for our family andprogress, it could be really
important for our family,because getting out of debt,
that was important for ourfamily Every single prayer, yeah
, every single prayer for atleast 12 of those 15 years, our
children-.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Our cute little girls Would say Please bless us,
we'll get out of debt.
Please bless us to get out ofdebt.
And I don't even know if theyreally knew what it meant, but
they knew that stressed us out.
I mean, I guess we were prayingfor it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
We were praying for it, so that's why they did
clelia brought her little piggybank.
No, and rikel and rikelchristmas would give us their
money, and we were I was like ohmy gosh, that's amazing.
It was was so, it was so sweet.
So it really was a familyaffair in the sense of all of us
had the same family concern.
We wanted to get out of debt sowe could provide more
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opportunities for our family.
So the progress was a greatthing.
In the beginning it was awesome.
We got to spend more timetogether doing some family trips
.
We got to spend money forafterschool curricular
activities like sports, all thethings we wanted.
That's what it was there for,and then it just became too much
.
It was more, and we were doingmore for more sake and not
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thinking about how importantthis relationship is.
And maybe this relationshipneeds to just sit down and have
a conversation and not film somany videos and fly across the
world.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
This relationship is supposed to be more.
That's what was supposed to bemore, and what were we teaching
our children at the time, In thebeginning?
Sacrifice for the greater right.
We are trying to do all thisgrowth.
But once we got up there, itwas just can we squeeze this
trip in with this trip?
Can we make this brand changetheir dates for this?
Can we just have more?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
more, more, more more .
That is what our family wanted.
We thought that's what the kidswanted.
We thought this was going tobenefit the family.
So that's when we go back tothat word for myself, when we
reflect and we take like apersonal inventory of what is
important.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Explain personal inventory.
I'm very I would love to hearyou explain that really quickly.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Honestly this could be a whole other podcast but I
absolutely love, I follow and Ilisten to a lot of people that
do thought work and where wethink about like how important
and how powerful our thoughtsare.
But a personal inventory isreally just reflecting.
If we're going to do physicalpersonal inventory, I do that a
lot because my stomach will hurtif I eat certain things and I
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inventory all the things thatI've done pro for my body and
maybe things that have affectedmy body in a negative way, Like
we went to the movie.
Did I eat too much popcorn?
Did I?
eat these things that Ishouldn't have, or did I offset
it with?
I had a lot of water.
I exercised today, I moved mybody, I got enough sleep, right.
That's an inventory.
But now, emotionally ormentally, we take a personal
(27:00):
inventory of how are my thoughts.
Am I feeling stressed?
Is this work too much for me?
Is this whatever too much forme?
Am I feeling stressed?
Is this work too much for me?
Is this whatever too much forme?
Am I feeling not just satisfied, because I hate that word, I
hate satisfied from EmmaHamilton.
But you know, like, kind oflooking through our life and
(27:20):
going, is this giving me thepositive things that I need
emotionally, spiritually,mentally, as well as offsetting
maybe some of those negativethings that happen to us?
Stress?
Or you know, like that burnoutthat we're talking about, like,
how is that inventory working?
Am I spending enough timeemotionally or like in a
relationship with my spouse?
How is that doing?
(27:42):
How is that going Right?
Or we're going to pause onemore time?
Are we burning up?
So, with personal inventory,there's many ways to do it.
Whether you write it down,journal, there's so many
different techniques.
But that, I think, helps us tokind of regulate if we are in a
(28:02):
good zone right, like kind ofstaying in the focus zone of
what we want to do and whatwe're like, what our goals are
for our family, our relationshipand things like that.
Is that what you were thinking?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, because for me we've owned so many different
retail type businesses For meit's just inventory, Like how
many shirts do we have, how many, how many of this?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
How many kisses did I get from my husband today?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Definitely not enough .
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know I'm always there for more kisses definitely
not enough.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You know I'm always asking more kisses, but for me
and our family, that inventory,what I noticed was more was
empty, more wasn't fulfillingand so we were looking for more
because our spirits I think wenaturally or spiritually want to
help others.
Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'm going to step in really fast.
I heard this quote and I haveto share it.
I love the quote because we arequite religious people.
I love the quote because itresonates with me really well
that we are spiritual beingshaving a human experience.
Not human beings have anyspiritual experience.
Absolutely true.
So we have to fill thespiritual bucket, right, like
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those are the things that ourspirit needs.
But in this life I think we getcaught up in the human needs,
right?
I mean we definitely have allthe human needs.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
We have them all Well it's carnal, that's what our
body wants.
Our body wants all thesedifferent things, but our spirit
is supposed to be in control.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Oh my gosh, we need to do a whole different podcast
on this and like indulgence,because I've done a ton of study
on this, but I think we need tostay focused on where we're
going, because this is so trueand we've had great discussion
on this because we get sucked in, especially for me and my
health.
I find that I get sucked inbecause I have these cravings
(29:57):
for sugar and I have thesecravings for salty things or
whatever it is.
Are you doing?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
this.
You're doing this cravings forsugar lots of cravings for sugar
, but.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
But I go and I eat certain things and my body feels
worse.
So giving into thoseindulgences, those physical
things, wasn't actuallyfulfilling me.
But at the same time I mighthave been needing a emotional
need or a spiritual need, and soit was portrayed in a physical
need.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, so we're going.
After all this, we decide thatwe need to calm down.
We didn't even know how much weneeded to calm down, but we knew
we kind of needed to calm downand so we started looking for
opportunities in our church todo more service.
And our church, the way it'sorganized, is, everybody that
lives within the geographic area, goes to one of our chapels and
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it depends on where you live,right, and that's called a ward
and our ward attends at 10 am atthe chapel.
That's right here.
All the people in that wardhave different callings.
You're not paid for these, it'sservice, these it's service.
And so one of my callings at thetime was one of the people that
was I don't even know how you'dsay a little bit more in charge
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, which doesn't mean you're atthe top of the pyramid.
It means it's an invertedpyramid and you're at the bottom
trying to hold it all up, andso it's not.
Some people look up to it, butto me it was just I am called to
serve more.
So that was very fulfilling forme.
We were so busy I was, it wasgreat, I was very needed and
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Rach had a calling with theprimary children, which is, the
younger children up to age 12,up to 11.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I got to teach them songs and music and you were all
in and songs that were allaround.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Basically, she spent hours every week preparing these
songs and the lessons thatwould go with them, so that we
can learn these songs.
And these are the lessons thatcome from this and, anyways, it
was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
It was wonderful, it was so fun.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
But after Sunday we were like gosh, what else?
But I got released because youonly do these callings for a
certain amount of time to giveeveryone the opportunity to
serve.
I was released from thatcalling and then I was put in a
calling that was in charge ofteaching and helping everybody
that taught lessons fordifferent age groups on Sundays.
I would help them become betterteachers.
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It was wonderful, but literallyit was maybe 30 minutes a week.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
And it's set up in that way so that many people can
help serve in different aspects, as to not obviously overwhelm
one person, because, again, it'snot a profession we don't get
paid to do any of the librarianforever right, but you know so
that you can do this in additionto your everyday life yes and
our everyday life was doing thismore and more and more thing
(32:46):
and we were like, okay, we needto dial that down and maybe do
more of the service thing,because the service is truly
giving us that fulfillingfeeling and, honestly, it's like
creating more love and morepeace in our home as we served
more, and so Rach actually wenton our church's website to look
for service opportunities aroundthe globe, actually went on our
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church's website to look forservice opportunities around the
globe and she had found one inEdinburgh, scotland, and she's
like, hey, we could go and beyouth leaders for the 18 to
30-year-olds and organize stuffand be all in charge of that.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Do activities and fun things and found out we do not
make the qualifications, becauseone of the nicer qualifications
, because one of the nicerthings or one of the policies
with our church is that if youhave children at home, you can't
go out and do one of these bigthings, because your children
are more important than thesetypes of things.
The more, more, more you canget into that in the service
area as well, as you could.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
What Jason's talking about is essentially doing more
full-time service.
Well, as you could.
What Jason's talking about isessentially doing more full-time
service, much like our childrenhave.
So if you followed our family,our oldest child, clay, and in
the youth in our church, they goand they give up a year and a
half to two years of their lifeand they do full-time service.
So they go anywhere around theworld in the United States, all
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over the world and they teachWait, they submit.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'll give you a quicker.
They submit, they choose ifthey want to go or not.
Nobody's forced to.
They choose it.
They fill out all theirpaperwork and they put it in,
and then the church says okay,well, you are called to go here
or else everybody would just sayI want to go to Tahiti.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's so true.
So Clay went to Brazil, and nowour second oldest, raquel, is
serving her full-time mission inRome, and both of them it was
for 18 months.
So what Jason's talking about isin our neighborhoods we go and
we serve weekly.
We go and serve on Sundays,maybe sometimes in the middle of
the week, so it's notdisrupting really your family
time, because that's what it'sfocused on.
The thing I really enjoy aboutour church is it is family
(34:54):
focused and then churchsupported.
So the church is supposed to besupporting the families, which
is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But what we wanted to do is we wanted to kind of
serve a little bit more of afull time kind of service thing
somewhere in the world, soselfish.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
We thought it would be really fun, but they
discouraged that when you havechildren at home children still
in school because they don'twant you to not focus on your
family, which I think is a greatplan.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Absolutely.
But for us with homeschooledchildren, digital businesses and
a load of time on our handsbecause we canceled all these
other channels and all theseother things that we were doing
these.
I sold the shares of my companyto my business partners.
I sold another one of mybusinesses to the president and
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he bought the whole company andtook that on.
So I literally was basicallyretired, and so I went and
bought myself a watch because Iknew nobody else would, because
I've never actually had a realjob.
But now we had this bigopportunity all this time and so
we wanted to do this.
There were the ups and downs oftrying to figure out a way, but
we ended up on a road trip toScotland.
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We ended up going to church andall the right church leaders
that could make certaindecisions like this were sitting
there in the building.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It was meant to be.
And then this madam was like,hey, you should go talk to him.
I was like you should go talkto him.
Hey, you should go talk to him.
And he's like I don't want to.
And I'm like, no, you should gotalk to him.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
No, you will go talk to him.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
And we ended up talking to them and saying, hey,
if we be able to help and be ofservice in this area.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
She's making it very official sounding.
It was kind of in jest.
I was like, oh well, you know,I mean we could always move here
and help out.
They're like don't tempt us.
I was like, no, actually don'ttempt us.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
So it literally started like that and turned
into a beautiful it justhonestly, we really felt.
We really felt that the lordwas like yes, you should do this
, this will be good for yourfamily this is what will help.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
The scriptures say a burzing, a burzing, uh burning
in the bosom.
It literally like we had firein the bosom.
We were like I like was somotivated we felt this is the
next step so that next step weended up confirming, with them
saying, all right, if we cameout here, would you actually
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have something for us to do?
And they're like well, actuallywe would need people in charge
of communications and PR andinterfaith work.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
We know how to do that, yes.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
And I love studying world religions.
We did not fill these shelveswith all the books that I have
because we were trying to decideto or not.
Of all of the books we have ondifferent world religions and
apocryphal works, all the thingsthat I study and read, I
literally wake up at five and Iread till seven, till everyone
else is awake, and I love thesesubjects and Rach is so good at
(37:55):
it and I'm kind of a nutcase,but I really love it too.
So we said, well, if that's athing social media, interfaith
work, all these things oh mygosh, we would actually love to
come out here for that.
That sounds like a full-timejob to us.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
We, we literally jumped at it.
We jumped at it so much that weput our house on the market to
sell.
We felt that we could go foryears.
We were like we could do threeyears, five years.
I think this would be amazing.
We put our house on the market.
We sold so many things that Iam now-.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Half of my arcade is still gone.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
We sold so many things because we were dead set.
We thought we need to move, sowe put our house on the market.
We sold so many things.
We put offers on homes inScotland.
That's right.
We offered on homes in Scotland.
We worked with people inScotland after the offers fell
through because we learned somethings about buying houses in
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another country.
It's not super easy, but we hadso much help on the Scotland
side.
We made some wonderful friendsand they helped us find a rental
.
They helped us find all thesethings and it was not easy.
You would think that we hadthis burning and we thought this
was the right thing to do anddoors would just open.
It was freaking hard, it wasnot easy.
Like you would think that, likewe had this burning and we
thought this was the right thingto do and doors would just open
.
It was freaking hard.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It was not easy at all.
Probably 14 times, maybe onlythree.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
But we, there were a couple days.
He's like we're not doing it,we're not going.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Well, okay, so we go to one of our church meetings
there's like 300 people in thisone.
It's more of an area one, notjust these little ones here
where we live, just to put thatin there and we go and sit down
and we had just been told no, afew different times on us being
able to go and serve.
This was before we went toScotland, but they wanted us to
come.
Oh, it wasn't before.
(39:43):
Okay, so we had gone toScotland, talked with them.
They wanted us to come, wewanted to go, and we go to this
church meeting.
They're like we need morepeople to serve internationally
from our area.
We're like we're trying youhave the means, you have the
lifestyles that you could takesome time away and go and help
out in these other areas.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
And we're like we didn't physically put our hands
up.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
And then they called some friends of ours they're in
between acquaintance and friendsand they literally called them
to the exact thing they had justtold us no to, but in a city,
in Birmingham instead of inEdinburgh.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
And we were like no, what is happening?
Why can't we go and do this?
I?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
literally almost walked out of the room.
Rach had to put her hand on me.
I leaned over and I said I'mwalking out of here.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
She's like there were some serious words.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I put my elbows on my knees, I leaned my head down
and I sat there grumblingbecause we wanted to do it.
It was the right motives, butwhat's interesting now is it
couldn't have happened that way.
The way that it happened is theonly way that actually would
have worked, and so, once again,I'm a stubborn dirtbag and once
again, we were blessed in somany ways that it happened the
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way that it did.
Oh my goodness, if they wouldhave accepted our offers on our
home, we would have lost so muchmoney and we would not like.
We wouldn't have been able tobuy it and they would have kept
all of our money.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
We learned so many things, and many negative things
, that we learned about livingin another country, which will
be in another podcast.
So stay tuned for that, but wewere so grateful that it was a
little bit harder that our housedidn't sell, because now we're
back in our house, which isfantastic.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
So happy.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
You know, and we're so grateful for all the ways
that it happened, but we dideventually make it to Scotland.
We left, we made it to Scotland, we were done with this life,
but we kind of took some of itwith us.
We took the YouTube with us.
We went from a huge team downto just our family again.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Just to us again.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
And we took our family to Scotland.
We literally sold so manythings and we packed how many
bags?
20?
, 23 bags.
We packed 23 bags, which 12 ofthose were giant luggages, like
the duffel bags that we checked,like massive 50 pound.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
We ended up getting upgraded, and so we were allowed
to pack some of them like fourof them to 70 pounds.
So we had I forget it was likea thousand something pounds we
took to Scotland.
But what's funny is is on theway home we brought just that
much.
We brought more than that back,but nothing that we took there
did we bring back because thekids all tripled in size this
way.
Not like me this way.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
But we literally moved our whole family across
the world and in those duffelswere really just like clothes,
shoes, a lot of books and coats,because it's real cold there.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
And so we arrived.
The house was built in 1745.
We had to heat it with oil andcoal fireplaces.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
We did not know what that meant.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
We didn't know what that meant, we didn't know how
to do that.
We learned that's a very coldway to heat your house and
expensive.
But what ended up happening waswe had breakfast every single
morning as a family and we did ascripture study at, I'd say, 80
, some odd percent of thosebreakfasts in that one room,
looking over the river, at thecountryside.
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I cried when, my last timelooking out that window, if you
want to go and find our actualYouTube channel, don't?
It is so sad.
It was so hard to leave.
We ended up completelyintegrating into our local ward,
just like we had here, but overthere, and instead of three to
six hundred people attending,there was 40 to maybe 70 on a
really big day oh, man and wewere able to help.
(43:43):
But what was crazy was wethought we were going there to
help others.
It changed.
We ended up going there and theyhelped us.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
It was, it was what happened, an incredible,
incredible thing that we did forour family, and I know this,
this can't happen for everybody,um, and we have like a special
kind of circumstance that itworked out really great for us,
but giving up the more, more,more.
We progressed in totallydifferent ways by not having the
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more, more, more and by goingand serving we gained so much
more.
We're going to do it in the nextepisode, the next podcast
episode, so you're going to haveto listen or watch for that,
because we gained so much moreand there were some things that
we were like.
We learned that we were didn'tlove, we didn't love.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, no, it wasn't all roses and pomegranates it
was.
It was hard, it was hard.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
It was hard, but probably the best growth that we
have had as a couple, as afamily and in relationships with
our kids, like individually,you know, like with our children
.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
So what could other people that might not have the
extenuating circumstances thatwe have, with kids at home and
all this, what are things,normal, people that you looking
at what we did, what are microversions of that or just
different versions of that thatother people can go and do?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I fully believe that service will change your life.
Now I know that there's somepeople that do charities but
really small service and that'sso weird, Like you want to make
this huge impact, Like we did goto Africa and we helped build
wells.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And schools and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
And that was really wonderful and definitely
impactful.
But I'm going to say that thisamount of daily service, weekly
service, that we did where wefocused on service.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It was every day, it was every single day.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Like we, focused on service.
It was every single day Like wefocused on service.
That changed us and that, Ithink, made a bigger impact than
raising $15,000 for wells inAfrica.
Like I mean for me, that's whatI feel.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
You know what we've done.
That, I think, was just asimpactful.
But a micro version of this iswhen we went to the road home
and took blankets and coats andthen you go and serve food and
things like that are the exactsame as this and they won't cost
you tens of thousands ofdollars.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Honestly, there are so many opportunities in every
community and I think we justneed to have kind of our
blinders taken off to whatservice looks like.
I think that service is notnecessarily these huge things
all the time.
Right, we can't go in and serveat the homeless shelter every
(46:51):
week.
You know, like I know, thatlife doesn't always permit that.
But I think service looksdifferent all around you.
But if you are focusing on iton a daily basis, things will
come up.
I truly believe that if you arepraying for opportunities to
serve someone in your family,serve a community member serve a
neighbor or just helping.
(47:12):
in some way, the opportunitieswill come, and that literally
like if you're a member of ourfaith or a member of
Christianity, you can serve inyour own congregation, serve in
your own church, asking yourchurch leaders how you can help
people, whether that's just hey,come over for a meal and I'll
feed you.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Can I sweep the building?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Can I sweep the building Literally in Scotland
every three months.
It was our turn as a family inthat ward to clean the chapel
and that's how it is.
All around the world Members ofour congregation take turns
cleaning the chapel.
That keeps the cost down andstuff.
And we're washing windows andwe're vacuuming the you know,
(47:56):
the rugs and the carpet and it'snot a big deal.
It took our family an hourbecause there's many of us.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
It was actually wonderful.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
But it was fun.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
It was kind of fun.
It sucked to get in the car andto go over there, but then it
was wonderful when we got backinto the car when we were done.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Serving lifts your spirits in a way that nothing
else can.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Oh my gosh, think of this.
Your body craves the sugars andthe nasty foods and all of that
stuff.
It thinks that's going to begreat.
Once you eat it, then it'sterrible.
You hate it.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It's a bad feeling your body's like service.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Your body does not naturally want to go and do.
But, by the time you're done.
Your spirit loves it.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yep, and your spirit is craving it more and more.
So, honestly, even though we,the things we were doing in
Scotland, were not life changingone thing, right it was, it was
multiple things.
So we would go and clean thechapel, we would help out in the
youth programs.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
We organized events for gathering youth together to
have fun.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Jace would create honestly like little, like
Instagram, facebook reels ofthings that other people were
doing, other services orspending time with family or,
you know, focusing on yourcommunity, like he was creating
nice, uplifting, happy typethings and sharing it.
This was these are small things, but things that, like,
everyone can do and if we focuson it, even if it's just once a
(49:23):
week, like oh, I'm gonna do alittle, I wanna increase my
service, maybe I'm gonna say hito my neighbor, maybe my
neighbor wants some cookies,maybe I'm just gonna Pull in
their trash bins for them.
Yeah, like I mean honestly itdoesn't have to be huge and
we're coming up on fall and theholidays.
There's so many opportunitiesraking leaves, going and
(49:43):
donating old blankets or coats,like Jay said, to homeless
shelters.
You know there are biggerthings that you can do and those
things will be way moreimpactful on yourself, your
family, your relationships, andthat's like such a great memory
to have with your family, likeour kids remember bringing their
old coats that were too smallfor them to wear, old blankets
(50:05):
that you know we just had newerones and bringing them to the
homeless shelter, right, likethat's a memory that they're
going to keep.
So if we have thoseopportunities, that's something
that's going to last way longerthan, honestly, going to
Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
What I love with this is we don't have like this big
note board and bullet points andwe just kind of see where this
goes.
And in my mind I'm goingthrough this and it was we had
literally almost nothingphysically, or you know,
monetarily, and then we got tothe point where we did, and then
we had anything you could everwant.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
We had all the things we weren't billionaires.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
We weren't like we're all this great, but we could
afford what we wanted.
And then we took it back downto living in this other house
and it wasn't like we went brokeor anything, but we lived a
completely different lifestyle.
And so what's the takeaway fromall of this?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
For me.
I would like to say that thetakeaway is more is just more,
and more can be amazing, but Ithink it's up to you to decide.
Is more beneficial to you andyour family, is it?
You know, taking that personalinventory we kind of talked
(51:21):
about and deciding is this goingto benefit your life in the
long run and your relationshipsin the long run?
Because I think the houses, allthe things, they're going to go
to waste eventually, they'regoing to corrode and they're
going to, like, go nasty, butthe relationship that we have,
the relationships that we havewith our kids, that's what's
(51:41):
going to last forever.
Right, like the stories of howwe spend time together.
That's what's going to lastforever.
So, is more what you reallywant?
Is that something that is goingto help your relationship
progress and get better, or ismore just more?
Speaker 2 (52:01):
So basically that tipping point right, it's good,
good, good, good, good, goodgood, and then all of that good
gets to a point to where it tipsand then it's not actually good
anymore.
Malcolm Gladwell did a book Ithink this one was in David and
Goliath but also the tippingpoint was a good one.
But was that Seth Godin?
Nevermind, but there's onecalled David and Goliath and
there's a point where he sayswhat's interesting at the time
this was like early 2000s and hesaid what's interesting is the
(52:27):
level of happiness people feelafter about $72,000 a year.
Their happiness doesn'tincrease with the income.
That gets higher, and once itgets even so much higher, it
actually goes down.
And there's all these differentcases of where it was really
easy when they didn't haveanything.
When their kids are like mom, Iwant a pony, we can't afford a
(52:48):
pony, it's so much harder.
But then they have all thismoney and now all of a sudden
they're like mom, I want a pony.
Okay, oh wait, now we have topay to.
Now we have to pay to board it,we have to pay to train it, we
have to pay to do this.
And all of a sudden, all thisextra money and all this stuff
you've been working for is whatyou're using to pay for your
houseboat slip and the rentalsand all the different things to
(53:11):
where now?
you're not happier, it's justmore, it's just more stuff.
You're not happier, it's justmore, it's just more stuff, more
.
So for us, what we try is, whenwe start to have some turmoil,
when we start to have issues,we're like okay, have we added
too much in one area?
Where do we need to take awayfrom?
And Rach doesn't like itbecause the way that I do this
(53:31):
isn't very good.
He likes to rip off the bandaidand and take it all away.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
I love ripping, which is finding a balance of when.
That is the right time for that, because if it's like, oh wait,
a second.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
I have cancer that has taken out this part of my
leg.
I would cut the fricker off.
I would I would cut it off.
And so you know, right, likewhen the scriptures if you're
left-eyed, you pluck it out.
If this hand offends, you cutit off, right.
I truly am like if there is acancer in the family, what is it
(54:07):
?
And I'm going to cut it out.
And not children or familymembers or any of that.
That's not what I'm talkingabout.
Is it a certain TV show all ofa sudden we're all watching
that's putting us in a funkymood?
Is it the type of music that'sall of a sudden creeping into
the house that's ruining things?
I will cut things out.
Did we get a new board gamethat's pissing everybody off?
Yeah, I will chuck the boardgame.
(54:29):
I will chuck the ps3.
I will chuck the remote controlguys, he has done it before I
have done it chucked so manythings and it again, baby.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
But I think it's an important thing to note that
he's just honestly, he's justdoing an inventory of what is
good in the home, what is notgood in the home, what is
benefiting the home, creatinggood, better relationships,
creating better experiences andwhat is causing negativity in
the home.
Now, not always is stressnegative, right?
(55:00):
So that's a little bit of adifferent thing.
But I think that that's a hugetakeaway is to take that
inventory of yourself.
And don't be as rash as I am.
Don't be, no, don't.
Don't.
Don't just rip off the bandaid.
Do we still need the bandaid?
We might need the bandaid.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
I promise we won't bleed to death once the
bandaidaid is off, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
But I think it's important to take that inventory
and kind of evaluate if you'removing in the right direction
that you wanted to as a couple,as a person, as a relationship,
as a family, you know or again,is it just more stuff that needs
to be thrown away?
Speaker 2 (55:35):
I think with that, that is the takeaway from this.
Do an inventory, see if themore that you're focused on is
just more, or if that focus isgoing towards something that is
actually beneficial.
And it can be really scary.
We can say this sitting here,because we did this version of
it.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
But if you're in it it is nearly impossible to see.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah hard.
If you're in it, it is nearlyimpossible to see yeah and it
and it is really really hard toto accept somebody else's um
thoughts on what you're goingthrough, you know what I mean.
It's hard for us to do thatbetween the two of us it's very,
very hard, but if you can cometo a state where you can accept
people's thoughts and not, youdon't have to take everyone's in
(56:16):
.
But maybe you think is thissomething I need to think about?
Speaker 2 (56:20):
is this something that you're saying?
Do an inventory of what peopleare saying and giving you advice
on maybe so there's lots ofways you can do inventory.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Comment down below if we should do an inventory
podcast or if you actually wantto hear in our next episode all
the crazy things that we wentthrough living in another
country and the takeaways thatwere not always great.
There was amazing things thathappened which we can share as
well, but there was some reallyhard things so thank you guys
(56:51):
for hanging out with us again.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
We are so excited for this season.
We are going to try as hard aswe can to do an episode every
week, and I am 90% sure we can,unless our week is crazy and
this filming another episodejust becomes more.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
It's never more, because it's valuable for you
guys and for us, and Iabsolutely love it, so we're
going to try.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
So thank you for coming along for our personal
therapy sessions that we'regoing through but comment down
below.
We love the comments.
Go to past videos.
See what other people havecommented on our Raising Ohana
podcast YouTube channel, becauseI am always in those comments.
Rach is in those comments.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
We love to have a discussion and if you are
listening to this podcast,wherever you listen to podcasts,
go and check out our YouTubepodcast or follow us on
Instagram at Rach Bennett andJace Bennett with an S, because
we want to interact with you, wewant to answer your questions,
as well as bring on some expertsas well as some fun friends.
Oh, you've got some epic peopleto discuss some topics that
(57:51):
we've got coming up okay, thankyou guys for watching, listening
and hanging out.
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