July 18, 2024 • 37 mins
Can Tyler Perry’s newest film make us swear off his movies for good? Join us on the latest episode of the Open Book Podcast as we humorously dissect "Divorce and the Black." After Jay's grueling recovery from a kidney stone and Nia's much-needed break from moving, we decided to unwind with this two-hour and one-minute movie, which felt like two lifetimes. We dive into the storyline, exposing Megan Good’s mysterious character and unraveling the familiar tropes of struggle, flawed male figures, and the ever-present church influences that Perry fans have come to expect.
We don’t hold back in our critique, openly discussing the apparent decline in Tyler Perry’s film quality. From poor wigs and visible microphones to nonsensical character choices, we spotlight how Corey Hardrick's unnecessary wig and other production missteps contribute to our growing disappointment. Our conversation delves into the repetitive themes of trauma and redemption through a "clean" man, questioning if there’s still potential for Perry to use his platform to champion emerging talent instead of churning out subpar content.
In a particularly memorable segment, we analyze a park scene with a weeping willow, where the mismatched song lyrics left us scratching our heads. We argue that the song would have been more impactful in a scene laden with conflict, perhaps involving Hardrick’s character. Wrapping up, we ponder if we’ll ever watch another Tyler Perry film, despite the inevitable buzz each new release generates. Don’t miss out on our candid and often hilarious take on "Divorce and the Black" and our broader thoughts on Perry’s cinematic trajectory.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
So we just finished watching Tyler Perry's Divorce
and the Black.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Divorce and the Black .
How long was that movie?
It was two hours and one minuteRight, two lifetimes, okay.
(00:41):
So let's start with.
We probably include this on ourpodcast too, so welcome
everybody to the Open BookPodcast.
Welcome to the Open BookPodcast.
I'm Jay.
This is Nia.
Y'all know what we do.
This is the Open Book.
We talk about our life, we showyou our life, we review some
(01:04):
movies so we both took days off.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I took the day off because I passed a kidney stone
this morning self-care dayself-care day drinking tiny
cranberry juice essential watersgot our 40 ounces of essential
water and I'm exhausted becausethere's so much gold that goes
into kidney stones and myhusband told me to take the day
(01:31):
because I was going to go backto work.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So we're in the process of moving and she goes
to work.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So while we're resting, we decided to watch In
the Black Divorce in the Black,and the movie started out.
So I guess the question is itkind of started out like excuse
me, I didn't really know, likeif Megan Good was like in on,
(02:01):
like if it was something dark.
That happened Because itstarted off first off.
The intro was amazing, I haveto say.
The intro was an intro yeah um,but that was it.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I feel like it's one of them it just felt like it was
supposed to go a differentroute and it didn't yeah it was
just kind of a long line of thesame thing you know, the more I
learn about writing and what ittakes to write, be it a book or
a movie, and writing scenes,writing acts.
This is one of the movies whereit's pretty like the
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differences in the scenes andthe acts stand out.
You can see kind of the chopsthat were put together.
That first scene was the cellar.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That was the one that was like, okay, got him, yep.
And then it was like, okay,what happens next?
Do we believe that he revealedsomething at the very beginning?
And then it's like, you know,know, as the movie went on, it's
like do we believe that meganis as innocent as she appears to
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be, or is something, didsomething dark in her past
happen and tie her to this guy?
Like what exactly is going on?
And then benji pops into thepicture and I really enjoyed
that song that they had by ChrisSomebody.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, let's give the full context for anybody who
hasn't seen it.
Which is why I'm trying not tosay anything, but let's lay out
what the movie's about.
The movie stars Megan Good as acountry girl.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Married, wife Married country girl.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
She's married to Coreyory hardrick's character
and, um, they are from two.
They're from a small town.
They don't really say what town, but it's.
One of the things they madesuper clear is that it's an hour
and 15 minutes away fromatlanta.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They said that about 20 but they didn't specifically
say the town and we didn't learnthat it was Atlanta until like
the middle of the movie.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, so we know that they are from a country town and
they now live in the city.
But they're from a country town, so the movie starts with them
in the country town because thehusband, corey Hardrick's
brother, has been killed in someway and they're starting the
funeral.
Obviously, the big killer sceneis which I had already knew
(04:29):
about.
I just didn't know the contextof it because a lot of people
have been.
I saw people online saying theypulled him out of a casket.
I didn't know who got pulledout of a casket or why I didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I literally skipped past anything that had to do
with this movie, so I had nocontext of anything yeah, so
that's this, that's the sellingscene, but obviously the movie
is about this couple.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Uh, it's a tyler perry movie, so you can imagine
the struggle of this couple,right?
It's?
It's gonna be a woman and it'sgonna be who's, who's wronged by
a man, and she has a, the, theanswer to her problem supposedly
right in front of her, in theform of a another good, squeaky
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clean man and because it's atyler perry movie, it's gonna
have something to do with thechurch, and the church was
present for everybody elsefailing you except you and the
pastor.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You're probably going to be the pastor's daughter and
your mama and your daddy dideverything for everybody in the
church and completely neglectedyou, or the church just wronged
you in some kind of way, and youare scorned because church
people are bad.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But you're still going to get church music and
you're still going to get churchmusic and you're still going to
get church all over the placeYou're going to get God.
So you get the hooks of churchYou're just going to get that
church is not good.
Yes, so I think I feel likeTyler Perry definitely has a
process that's working.
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He got a business model that'sworking.
Obviously, he's not trying tomake A-plus or 10 out of 10
classic type movies.
He's writing from his ownpersonal pain.
I know he got a documentarythat I haven't watched.
I haven't watched it either.
People said it explains why hismovies are like this.
I'm pretty sure I don't evenneed to watch that with
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understanding why it's are likethis.
I'm pretty sure I don't evenneed to watch that with
understanding why it's probablylike this.
Um, but back to this movie,though the movie, there was an
incident that occurred.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The husband is not right, the wife is nothing.
There's nothing wrong with herand my thought is like is
something, something happened inthe earlier years that tied her
to him Like did?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
something happen in the earlier years that tied her
to him.
That would be in a regularmovie.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, like, why is it that this?
You know, maybe there'ssomething extra going on.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
No, some people are evil, some people are good and
blameless, and that's just whatit was.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It was evil and good and the church is trash and you
know it just was a continuationof that.
You know it just was acontinuation of that and it just
kind of went from beinginteresting to kind of just very
quickly going off the cliff.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Super interesting that the first scene was the
best scene of the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And that's it for me.
I don't know about for you,honey.
Was it the same for you?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
It almost felt like some of the scenes felt like
they were, only they weren'teven written.
I got no one scene at the endwhere they're like did she call
her best friend or best friends?
Like we just think it's on thecouch.
We got to go and come on.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That was just kind of like even the scene where the
couple her best friend and theythat incident and it just kind
of like completely got glossedover and it was like, okay,
let's move on back to her inDallas.
It was just kind of like y'allnot going to acknowledge, like
you're not going to support yourfriend in this, you want to get
back to just kind of doing whaty'all was doing before.
It was just all over the place.
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I thought it was horrible.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I think the thing I thought it was an interesting
premise poorly executed.
I think what you're looking foris a backstory.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
There was nothing Some depth of character.
It was so many holes in thestory.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Why is this dude evil ?
Why is Ray?
What happened to him?
Why would she be so loyal tohim?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Why wouldn't she think about the repercussions
being with somebody like thiswould have on her family, not
just her and her children, buther family, her and her family.
I just it didn't make sense andit didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think my two biggest problems with it and I
try not to be a such a big TylerPerry basher because I have
been in the past.
Like I said, from a businessstandpoint, I completely
understand what he's doing, butfrom a consumer standpoint, as
somebody who just watched thisjoint, my two biggest problems.
One the same thing I always gotwith him.
My man only writesone-dimensional characters, man,
(09:02):
especially male characters.
But this time he pretty muchdid it with everybody in the
movie.
Everybody had no backstory, noreason to do why they were doing
what they were doing at all.
This person was just bad.
This person was good, thisperson was was good.
It's like there was no depth, nosecondary reason for anything
and everything transpired inlike a week yes and on top of
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that, like the biggest thingthat stood out to me, especially
at the end what it's hard tofind a like there was a clear
antagonist.
Right like there's a bad guybut this bad guy comes from a
bad family.
Right like it's like the badfamily it.
The crazy thing about it is andno offense to these actors, man
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but Tyler Perry made them allugly Like they looked bad.
They all was making ugly facesLike I thought that was just
over the top and just lazy to me.
I hate when stories are writtenlike that.
Like let me sift through it andfeel where I want to feel.
(10:05):
Don't just slap.
All of these people are justhorrific, evil people.
There's no reason that any ofthem are mad.
They're just all mad and wantdestruction for everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I don't like that and it was super interesting
because here it is, you have thepastor and the wife and you see
that their daughter is goingthrough this and instead, when
it was like, well, we shouldpray about it, it's like, hmm,
let's not, let me push you on toanother man and it's like, and
they said they was gonna prayyour daughter a chance to heal,
like remember they said theywere gonna pray and they didn't,
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and then it was no, you justneed to get back, you need to go
to the guy that you weresupposed to be with and it's
just like it.
Just it.
It was just, it was too muchyeah like literally everything
happened within a week.
It wasn't discussed why dallashad the issues that he had.
It wasn't discussed thedifferent things that he did.
(10:57):
I mean just like littlesprinkles you don't understand,
like why his mentality is theway it is.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Why is his mother like that?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Why is his family like that?
His brothers?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They said, he killed his father.
Why did that happen, oh?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
we're not supposed to say that that's such a spoiler.
Is that a spoiler?
Yeah, it's a spoiler.
I'm so sorry y'all, I apologize.
Man, we can't even.
Well, okay, I'm so sorry, butthat's out there.
It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'll put spoiler alert in the description of this
for y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I just didn't think that it was a good movie.
It didn't end well at all.
It didn't go well throughoutthe movie.
It was a lot of violence,unnecessarily.
I just don't think that I willprobably watch another Tyler
Perry movie.
I think that this one isofficially just kind of did it
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for me.
It was a waste of my time towatch this.
It just didn't.
I just did not like it at all.
I didn't like anything about it.
Not one thing that I like aboutit.
Nothing Like how can youencourage this woman that's been
in this abusive, horrificmarriage for 17 years?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, something like that Even longer right, Because
she said she was 37 and then shesaid they had been together
since she was 17.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
And then you push her onto another man without her
getting the healing and the helpthat she needs.
It's like and, and all youcould say is oh we, we didn't,
we didn't tell you enough thatwe were proud of you.
And her say oh well, I justthought that I'm supposed to put
up with this because marriageis frowned upon and divorce is
(12:40):
frowned upon in the church andhe's supposed to stand by your
man.
It's like, what world are youliving in?
Like I just um, I don't likehis.
I'm just not gonna watch anymore of his movies.
His, his messages within themovie are trash and the movie
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itself is trash.
And it sucks that he gets thesebig actors to come and do these
movies to lure you in to watchit and you think, oh, maybe this
one is going to be good.
And I mean, this one wasprobably the worst of all of the
ones that I've seen, and I, forme, is this is a, it was pretty
up there.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I've never really liked any.
I can't recall liking.
I can't recall feeling like anyof his movies were excellent.
I did enjoy one or two of them.
Yeah, I can't recall feelinglike any of his movies were
excellent.
I did enjoy one or two of them.
Yeah, I can't recall thinkingyeah, I think that was my
favorite one.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That was a long time ago when he first came out and
he really was like playingaround with different things.
Since then they have just gotworse and worse yeah and it's
like, it's almost like a joke,right?
Oh, the wigs are bad, theclothes are bad you can see the
mics and ha ha ha.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And, by the way, corey Hardrick did have a
strange wig that I did not likeand it was like A lot of them
had weird things.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He didn't even have to do that, it just didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I can't imagine why that character needed to have a
round afro head.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I don't understand what was on Corey Hartwick's
head that needed to be coveredup for this character.
I don't get it.
Here's the thing Tyler Perryhas made so much money and he
has acquired such success thatthis is the time where you start
taking people under your wingor you incorporate some of these
actors, these writers, thesepeople you know, directors who
are trying to get in the gameand give them a platform.
(14:25):
It's time for you to just quit.
I don't think that he shouldmake any more movies.
I really think that he shouldallow people to be able to have
the platform that they need toget seen, because it's clear
that that's what you're doing.
People know that your moviesare not going to be very good.
They're hoping that it may beand it's always the hype and
it's the hype of it and it'slike, man, this is such a
(14:46):
disappointment.
This is just kind of a clownsession.
But me, I feel like I reallywish that he would use his
platform for something else,instead of him putting just
these incomplete movies out thatdon't make any sense.
And you know, we want tosupport our black people, our
black artists, our black writersand directors and, and you know
, I just feel like it's just awaste.
(15:07):
It's just it's.
You know, obviously this movieis gonna be for someone.
It was not for me and if in,like I said, I just feel like
you know he there's other waysfor him to use his platform for
good.
Well, you can make a good movie, you've made him before but I
think, as time goes, this hasjust kind of been like this is
the box that he's kind of puthim himself in and it sucks to
(15:30):
see, I mean, but especially withthis whole mentality about
church, and you know it's beenlike that in every movie and I'm
just so sick of seeing it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I'm so sick of seeing it I think his one of the
knocks I saw in this movie.
Before we watched it.
One of the things I saw anumber of people say was that he
deals in trauma porn.
I think that is definitelysomething he's done historically
and this was like this moviewas just like complete trauma
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porn, like there was, there wasno resolution or redeeming value
or like there was really nolessons to be learned or any
point proven other than to showtrauma, pain, right, this
there's like you said, this thiscould be for some people.
It's probably for women whohave been through things like
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this who might relate to MeganGood character.
I can't imagine anybody elsegetting anything out of this
movie because it really didn'tdo anything else other than show
this woman go through thisunexplainable thing story, this
trauma and then find a new manand jump right into it with her.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I mean literally jumped right in the fire with
her and it's like why would you?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
and that's completely unnecessary because she kept
trying to hold him off and it'slike he has this traditional
hook of this there being thisredeeming, big, strapping
country boy, clean man.
It's like usually in all thesemovies right, there's some clean
man in front of you that thewoman is not interested in at
first and then she realizes thisis where all the trouble comes
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from.
I've been looking at the wrongtype of man.
He tends to do this in everymovie, but it was like
completely pointless in this one.
It really didn't lead toanything and I think this movie
had the most potential andreally just delivered the least
out of all his movies.
It really didn't deliveranything.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It was such a dumpster fire.
I just I can't even believethat I just wasted two hours of
my life watching this.
It was just trash for me, itwas such a just.
I'm just so disappointed.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
The funny part is he also has found ways now, because
you know there's always a knockon his, his writing, because he
wants to write the script.
He owns writing the script thescripts do suck right, like you
mean, I think they.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
They really kind of pointed it out perfectly.
It's like you put this trashout nothing's complete,
everything's post, we'll fix itin post and you put it out and I
, honestly, I'm I'm disappointedin myself.
That's really what it boils.
Honestly, I'm disappointed inmyself.
That's really what it boilsdown to.
I'm disappointed in myself forwasting my time and watching
this.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So yes, to that point .
This is what I ultimately thinkabout Tyler Perry.
Tyler Perry is and y'all got tofollow me on this one y'all.
Tyler Perry to me is DonaldTrump.
Tyler Perry is dealing insomething that is successful.
It's working.
I think.
When we watch his movies, wealways see that the quality is
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bad.
We always have complaints.
We normally feel like we wastedour time, but we did it, and so
for him as a businessman,there's no reason for him to
stop and make higher qualitystuff because the public is
showing him.
We're going to show up for thisand a lot of people like most
of the people that I see andinteract with, half of them only
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watch it so they can see is itreally trash?
And can I come and review itand argue with people?
And some people say I got todefend him because he's a black
man and he's employing people.
And some people say I got todefend him because he's black
man and he's he's employingpeople.
And some people say it doesn'tmatter, he's still trash, and I
need to say this.
So it feels like to me, likemost of us are really consuming
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it because we already know it'sgoing to be trash and we like,
is it?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
is it going to be this time?
I did not.
I didn't read anything aboutthis movie and I tend not to do
that.
I like to, especially now.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
it seems like all of the previews really kind of give
the entire movie away, and Imean, that's for some people, oh
yeah, and this movie didn'thave much, so it would have
definitely given away.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
They enjoy that because they can decide if they
want to see the movie or not.
I I haven't heard anythingabout this movie, I just know he
came out with a new one and Iwatched his last one with Kelly.
What's her name?
Kelly, kelly, kelly With Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Beyonce's sister.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Cousin yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Nolan Rowland Rowland Kelly.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Rowland.
I watched the last one withKelly Rowland and I was just
like eh, I did a review on thatone.
You remember that I did areview on that one.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You remember that, remember we was down, remember
we watched that in Phoenix,right.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I watched that here.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh no, that was the other one we watched.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
What was that?
That was with Earl.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Michael Ealy, that wasn't Tyler Perry, was it?
No, that wasn't Tyler Perry.
It felt like Tyler Perry alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But no, I watched that one here and we watched it
separate, because I think youwatched it on a plane.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah.
And it was still like I mean,you know, I thought Michael Ealy
was going to be in this becausea lot of people have been
passing around memes of CoreyHardrick and Michael Ealy, so I
thought they were both in thismovie.
I kept waiting for the sceneLike where's Michael Ealy at?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, I mean I, I um.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
There's nothing you liked about it.
He also brings down some reallygood actors like debbie morgan
is in this and she's a like.
She's been in the game for theyears and she kind of sucked in
this.
I thought her acting washorrible.
I was like man.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I thought she did a good job.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
maybe it's the script that she's reading because it
just just feels like it'slacking, like these are not
realistic reactions from people.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I thought the characters played their role.
I thought the script washorrible.
It was just all bad.
I just didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The script was really bad and there were some times
where it felt like there wasn'teven a script and they didn't
even know what to say next, itwas horrible.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It was horrible and it was like the same thing.
It felt like a recordeverything was consistently the
same thing, like didn't you justsay that and didn't?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
you just say that, yeah, they did say everything
like three or four times thisscene just literally happened
like a couple minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Why is it happening again?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I thought that too.
I had to look down at thesubtitles, like he did.
Just say that didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Didn't she just wear pink in the last scene?
Did y'all just recycle thatscene and just put it in this
one?
Because why does it feel likeI'm watching this scene over
again?
I?
Don't know, I just I no honey.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
It's a no for me.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It is a no for me.
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So will you ever?
You will never watch a TylerPerry movie again.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Not anything new that he has coming out, absolutely
not.
I will watch it, but you knowwhen the next one come out.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It's going to have the hype.
It's going to have the hook.
It might even have Beyonce init.
It's going to have something.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You know he's going to have something, unless Tyler
Perry comes out to say that he'soffering an apprenticeship to
young writers and directors tohelp give them a platform to,
you know, get their movies outthere.
No, thank you.
I mean, we know people.
We know people who are reallyout here trying to make it and
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get their movies and their,their shows out there and it
just seems like that would havebeen.
why can't you do that instead ofput out this nonsense?
I mean, it's gotten to thepoint now like he used to make
quality stuff Now.
Granted, he did it as Medea andit started in plays and it was
super entertaining, but it'slike it just morphed into
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something else and it justdoesn't.
It's like there's no effort putinto it, it just I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I agree with him as a playwright.
I thought he was great.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I just don't agree.
It's just like allow people touse their to to come out and and
actually put some quality workout there.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I thought he was a genius as a playwright.
It almost felt like as soon ashe went to movies he was still
writing plays.
And it just doesn't translatewell.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
He had another one that he did too, where he was um
, I can't remember what it wascalled, but it was good, but
that was a long time ago.
It's been a while since I'veliked a Tyler Farrah movie.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It's been a long while I probably like two, I
still wouldn't say any of themare great movies.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I like the Family that Prays, but even then it was
starting to get like, okay, Isee where it's going now.
Everything has kind of been Ilike the family that prays, but
even then it was starting to getlike, okay, I see where it's
going.
Yeah, it had all its hooks.
Now everything has kind of beena scenario that a family that
prays what was that?
The one with Taraji P Henson?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
The one with.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Daddy's Girls or something.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, I mean, it's just kind of been.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It was the one with Aegis Elbow with Corn Rose, it
was the one with Boris Kojo withan afro, or Aegis Elbow with an
afro and somebody else withCorn Rose or something, and
there was another one at thevery beginning with Not at least
me.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It was somebody else where she was married to the
lawyer and he got shot, oh yeah.
And that was the one you'rethinking about with.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Those usually had Madea in them to push them over.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, they did have Madea in them, but these last
ones where you just drop it andit'd be like, ooh, the wigs are
bad, everything's bad, it's somuch violence.
Ooh, it's just like I didn'tunderstand the wigs in this one.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I don't think it was needed.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm good, you know he's an artist and he is
extremely talented and he, youknow he's he has an audience
that he speaks to, and I'm justnot that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I will say that I agree with you.
I do think he is extremelytalented.
He knows exactly what he'sdoing, what he wants to do, and
he's successful at it.
I think, when it comes to like,you would expect somebody with
that much talent to also haveambition to make the greatest
movies right, the best, to begetting better and better as
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time goes on.
But he seems to be just likemailing it in it's actually
getting worse, if you judge bythis movie, and I don don't know
, maybe he's using this as cashgrab to build his empire down
there in Georgia and it willturn into what you said yeah,
down in Douglasville.
So hey, hit us up, we gotstories.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We know folks, you know, y'all see my husband's
hair.
It's really nice, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, my wife got me twisted up.
We's really good.
We don't usually do videopodcasts you know.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
so y'all get to see us in bed.
Me not At my best, I don't feelthe rightest.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I know my babe's getting better, but at least
y'all get to see us as we are,candid as we are.
You know Y'all lucky we ain'tdoing some other stuff in bed.
You know what I'm saying.
Maybe we would for our purposes.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
this is the open book podcast, and this is our review
of what was the name of themovie, by the way, I don't know
yo.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And then she signed the divorce papers without
reading them.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
No lawyer, it was just like and I get it.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
that's a cool scene if you're setting up the fact
that she just signed over somestuff, but you never did.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You never said it.
Everything happened in a day.
You go party, they throw you aparty, old boy is there, you
take him back to your house, youtalk about you changed your
locks, when, when you literallyjust cite the papers Especially
when you live an hour and 15minutes away from your job.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You already said that you live an hour and 15 minutes
away from your hometown.
You've said that multiple timesno, but they had this at her
house, at the old girl's houseoh yeah, that's right, but what
I wanted to know is how did thedude her best friend's husband?
He was at the party First ofall.
He had all kinds of malestrippers there and dude
chilling up in the.
I would not have been chillingat that party, but dude was at
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the party.
He was there to support hiswife he was at the party.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's a good thing.
He was there because he was agood old boy out of there.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
But he was wearing a different suit than he was 10
minutes before when he was 10minutes before when he was
signing the thing, but that wassupposed to be earlier in the
day right, it just was likeeverything was just like.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
The timing was just trash.
They probably filmed all ofthat in a day.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Probably I will say this man, my man.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
He did good with some of the scenes visually,
although again, but there wassome nice, some beautiful shots,
yes, but Tyler Perry issubtlety is not his thing
weeping willow trees yes, andthe country and that song they
played was beautiful the songwas dope that was probably, but
he beat you over the head withit.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
He don't be subtle with it, right?
So he mentioned Chris Stapletonright before they played the
Chris Stapleton song.
Then he had the Weeping Willowtrees.
As soon as I saw them walk,drive past Weeping Willow trees,
I was like there's going to bea sad scene with this.
There's going to be some waythat he uses these trees, and he
did, but he used them in a verybeautiful way.
But one of the things that Ithought it kind of was like a
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harking back.
It was like a throwback toEve's Bayou.
Where wasn't Megan Good andDebbie Morgan, both in East
Bayou?
So I thought that was prettydope.
You know, like, for the movieheads to reckon back, you know
what I mean to hearken back andbe like yo, I remember that.
So I thought that was prettygood.
I thought he did pretty goodwith the visuals, Everything
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that he does, though he'sextremely heavy-handed and he
does not use subtlety.
But I mean that's just a style.
You know.
If you're into it, you're intoit.
You know like what was?
The one line dude was like Iguess I'm gonna put the fire out
tonight, and it was like thatwas very overt of what's going
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on right now which was cool, itworked it worked.
Yeah, that's what that isalright, babe, run it up one out
of ten.
Run it up.
What is?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
it zero for that scene.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, I did so.
That's what.
That is.
All right, babe, run it up.
One out of ten.
Run it up.
What is it?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Zero.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Ooh.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Ooh, I'd give it a three, maybe a four, definitely
not a five Best scene.
Gotta be the funeral scene,right I mean, that was the one
that caused the intrigue theypulled on my casket.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's gotta be what about you?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
what was your?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
list.
What is it gotta be?
Oh, my rating four what is your?
Best scene, best funeral scene?
Gotta be the funeral scene.
There were no other good scenesin my opinion.
Like there were some decentones, Like you know them at the
park.
I like the weeping willow, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I don't like the scene.
I like the transition of themplaying the song and you getting
the bigger picture of theweeping willow.
That's it.
That scene was just like.
You know what I thought.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
The one thing that messed that scene up for me was
that song was so beautiful, butthe words of that song didn't
match that scene.
The words were about the couplefighting.
Those words should have beenplayed, with her and Corey
Hardrick going at it.
I thought that would have beenmore, but they never showed them
.
It wouldn't have been realisticin that way, that's true.
It wouldn't have been realisticin that way, though.
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That's true.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It didn't fit.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I think if they could have showed some scenes of them
actually having a marriage thatthey wanted to fight for, that
music would have went perfectwith it.
But that's not what this moviewas about.
They didn't have a marriagethat they wanted to show that
was worth fighting for.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And I think that he said the song because maybe that
was what the outcome was of hismarriage.
Yeah, and that's why he wantedher to hear it, but it didn't
fit for her marriage.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No it didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
All right, this is 30 Minutes.
Deuces y'all Deuces.
Peace y'all Rock with us.
So we just finished watching Tyler Perry's Divorce
and the Black.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Divorce and the Black .
How long was that movie?
It was two hours and one minuteRight, two lifetimes, okay.
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So let's start with.
We probably include this on ourpodcast too, so welcome
everybody to the Open BookPodcast.
Welcome to the Open BookPodcast.
I'm Jay.
This is Nia.
Y'all know what we do.
This is the Open Book.
We talk about our life, we showyou our life, we review some
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movies so we both took days off.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I took the day off because I passed a kidney stone
this morning self-care dayself-care day drinking tiny
cranberry juice essential watersgot our 40 ounces of essential
water and I'm exhausted becausethere's so much gold that goes
into kidney stones and myhusband told me to take the day
(01:31):
because I was going to go backto work.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So we're in the process of moving and she goes
to work.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So while we're resting, we decided to watch In
the Black Divorce in the Black,and the movie started out.
So I guess the question is itkind of started out like excuse
me, I didn't really know, likeif Megan Good was like in on,
(02:01):
like if it was something dark.
That happened Because itstarted off first off.
The intro was amazing, I haveto say.
The intro was an intro yeah um,but that was it.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I feel like it's one of them it just felt like it was
supposed to go a differentroute and it didn't yeah it was
just kind of a long line of thesame thing you know, the more I
learn about writing and what ittakes to write, be it a book or
a movie, and writing scenes,writing acts.
This is one of the movies whereit's pretty like the
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differences in the scenes andthe acts stand out.
You can see kind of the chopsthat were put together.
That first scene was the cellar.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That was the one that was like, okay, got him, yep.
And then it was like, okay,what happens next?
Do we believe that he revealedsomething at the very beginning?
And then it's like, you know,know, as the movie went on, it's
like do we believe that meganis as innocent as she appears to
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be, or is something, didsomething dark in her past
happen and tie her to this guy?
Like what exactly is going on?
And then benji pops into thepicture and I really enjoyed
that song that they had by ChrisSomebody.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, let's give the full context for anybody who
hasn't seen it.
Which is why I'm trying not tosay anything, but let's lay out
what the movie's about.
The movie stars Megan Good as acountry girl.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Married, wife Married country girl.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
She's married to Coreyory hardrick's character
and, um, they are from two.
They're from a small town.
They don't really say what town, but it's.
One of the things they madesuper clear is that it's an hour
and 15 minutes away fromatlanta.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They said that about 20 but they didn't specifically
say the town and we didn't learnthat it was Atlanta until like
the middle of the movie.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, so we know that they are from a country town and
they now live in the city.
But they're from a country town, so the movie starts with them
in the country town because thehusband, corey Hardrick's
brother, has been killed in someway and they're starting the
funeral.
Obviously, the big killer sceneis which I had already knew
(04:29):
about.
I just didn't know the contextof it because a lot of people
have been.
I saw people online saying theypulled him out of a casket.
I didn't know who got pulledout of a casket or why I didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I literally skipped past anything that had to do
with this movie, so I had nocontext of anything yeah, so
that's this, that's the sellingscene, but obviously the movie
is about this couple.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Uh, it's a tyler perry movie, so you can imagine
the struggle of this couple,right?
It's?
It's gonna be a woman and it'sgonna be who's, who's wronged by
a man, and she has a, the, theanswer to her problem supposedly
right in front of her, in theform of a another good, squeaky
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clean man and because it's atyler perry movie, it's gonna
have something to do with thechurch, and the church was
present for everybody elsefailing you except you and the
pastor.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You're probably going to be the pastor's daughter and
your mama and your daddy dideverything for everybody in the
church and completely neglectedyou, or the church just wronged
you in some kind of way, and youare scorned because church
people are bad.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But you're still going to get church music and
you're still going to get churchmusic and you're still going to
get church all over the placeYou're going to get God.
So you get the hooks of churchYou're just going to get that
church is not good.
Yes, so I think I feel likeTyler Perry definitely has a
process that's working.
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He got a business model that'sworking.
Obviously, he's not trying tomake A-plus or 10 out of 10
classic type movies.
He's writing from his ownpersonal pain.
I know he got a documentarythat I haven't watched.
I haven't watched it either.
People said it explains why hismovies are like this.
I'm pretty sure I don't evenneed to watch that with
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understanding why it's are likethis.
I'm pretty sure I don't evenneed to watch that with
understanding why it's probablylike this.
Um, but back to this movie,though the movie, there was an
incident that occurred.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The husband is not right, the wife is nothing.
There's nothing wrong with herand my thought is like is
something, something happened inthe earlier years that tied her
to him Like did?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
something happen in the earlier years that tied her
to him.
That would be in a regularmovie.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, like, why is it that this?
You know, maybe there'ssomething extra going on.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
No, some people are evil, some people are good and
blameless, and that's just whatit was.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It was evil and good and the church is trash and you
know it just was a continuationof that.
You know it just was acontinuation of that and it just
kind of went from beinginteresting to kind of just very
quickly going off the cliff.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Super interesting that the first scene was the
best scene of the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And that's it for me.
I don't know about for you,honey.
Was it the same for you?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
It almost felt like some of the scenes felt like
they were, only they weren'teven written.
I got no one scene at the endwhere they're like did she call
her best friend or best friends?
Like we just think it's on thecouch.
We got to go and come on.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That was just kind of like even the scene where the
couple her best friend and theythat incident and it just kind
of like completely got glossedover and it was like, okay,
let's move on back to her inDallas.
It was just kind of like y'allnot going to acknowledge, like
you're not going to support yourfriend in this, you want to get
back to just kind of doing whaty'all was doing before.
It was just all over the place.
(08:00):
I thought it was horrible.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I think the thing I thought it was an interesting
premise poorly executed.
I think what you're looking foris a backstory.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
There was nothing Some depth of character.
It was so many holes in thestory.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Why is this dude evil ?
Why is Ray?
What happened to him?
Why would she be so loyal tohim?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Why wouldn't she think about the repercussions
being with somebody like thiswould have on her family, not
just her and her children, buther family, her and her family.
I just it didn't make sense andit didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think my two biggest problems with it and I
try not to be a such a big TylerPerry basher because I have
been in the past.
Like I said, from a businessstandpoint, I completely
understand what he's doing, butfrom a consumer standpoint, as
somebody who just watched thisjoint, my two biggest problems.
One the same thing I always gotwith him.
My man only writesone-dimensional characters, man,
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especially male characters.
But this time he pretty muchdid it with everybody in the
movie.
Everybody had no backstory, noreason to do why they were doing
what they were doing at all.
This person was just bad.
This person was good, thisperson was was good.
It's like there was no depth, nosecondary reason for anything
and everything transpired inlike a week yes and on top of
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that, like the biggest thingthat stood out to me, especially
at the end what it's hard tofind a like there was a clear
antagonist.
Right like there's a bad guybut this bad guy comes from a
bad family.
Right like it's like the badfamily it.
The crazy thing about it is andno offense to these actors, man
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but Tyler Perry made them allugly Like they looked bad.
They all was making ugly facesLike I thought that was just
over the top and just lazy to me.
I hate when stories are writtenlike that.
Like let me sift through it andfeel where I want to feel.
(10:05):
Don't just slap.
All of these people are justhorrific, evil people.
There's no reason that any ofthem are mad.
They're just all mad and wantdestruction for everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I don't like that and it was super interesting
because here it is, you have thepastor and the wife and you see
that their daughter is goingthrough this and instead, when
it was like, well, we shouldpray about it, it's like, hmm,
let's not, let me push you on toanother man and it's like, and
they said they was gonna prayyour daughter a chance to heal,
like remember they said theywere gonna pray and they didn't,
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and then it was no, you justneed to get back, you need to go
to the guy that you weresupposed to be with and it's
just like it.
Just it.
It was just, it was too muchyeah like literally everything
happened within a week.
It wasn't discussed why dallashad the issues that he had.
It wasn't discussed thedifferent things that he did.
(10:57):
I mean just like littlesprinkles you don't understand,
like why his mentality is theway it is.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Why is his mother like that?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Why is his family like that?
His brothers?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They said, he killed his father.
Why did that happen, oh?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
we're not supposed to say that that's such a spoiler.
Is that a spoiler?
Yeah, it's a spoiler.
I'm so sorry y'all, I apologize.
Man, we can't even.
Well, okay, I'm so sorry, butthat's out there.
It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'll put spoiler alert in the description of this
for y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I just didn't think that it was a good movie.
It didn't end well at all.
It didn't go well throughoutthe movie.
It was a lot of violence,unnecessarily.
I just don't think that I willprobably watch another Tyler
Perry movie.
I think that this one isofficially just kind of did it
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for me.
It was a waste of my time towatch this.
It just didn't.
I just did not like it at all.
I didn't like anything about it.
Not one thing that I like aboutit.
Nothing Like how can youencourage this woman that's been
in this abusive, horrificmarriage for 17 years?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, something like that Even longer right, Because
she said she was 37 and then shesaid they had been together
since she was 17.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
And then you push her onto another man without her
getting the healing and the helpthat she needs.
It's like and, and all youcould say is oh we, we didn't,
we didn't tell you enough thatwe were proud of you.
And her say oh well, I justthought that I'm supposed to put
up with this because marriageis frowned upon and divorce is
(12:40):
frowned upon in the church andhe's supposed to stand by your
man.
It's like, what world are youliving in?
Like I just um, I don't likehis.
I'm just not gonna watch anymore of his movies.
His, his messages within themovie are trash and the movie
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itself is trash.
And it sucks that he gets thesebig actors to come and do these
movies to lure you in to watchit and you think, oh, maybe this
one is going to be good.
And I mean, this one wasprobably the worst of all of the
ones that I've seen, and I, forme, is this is a, it was pretty
up there.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I've never really liked any.
I can't recall liking.
I can't recall feeling like anyof his movies were excellent.
I did enjoy one or two of them.
Yeah, I can't recall feelinglike any of his movies were
excellent.
I did enjoy one or two of them.
Yeah, I can't recall thinkingyeah, I think that was my
favorite one.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That was a long time ago when he first came out and
he really was like playingaround with different things.
Since then they have just gotworse and worse yeah and it's
like, it's almost like a joke,right?
Oh, the wigs are bad, theclothes are bad you can see the
mics and ha ha ha.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And, by the way, corey Hardrick did have a
strange wig that I did not likeand it was like A lot of them
had weird things.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He didn't even have to do that, it just didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I can't imagine why that character needed to have a
round afro head.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I don't understand what was on Corey Hartwick's
head that needed to be coveredup for this character.
I don't get it.
Here's the thing Tyler Perryhas made so much money and he
has acquired such success thatthis is the time where you start
taking people under your wingor you incorporate some of these
actors, these writers, thesepeople you know, directors who
are trying to get in the gameand give them a platform.
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It's time for you to just quit.
I don't think that he shouldmake any more movies.
I really think that he shouldallow people to be able to have
the platform that they need toget seen, because it's clear
that that's what you're doing.
People know that your moviesare not going to be very good.
They're hoping that it may beand it's always the hype and
it's the hype of it and it'slike, man, this is such a
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disappointment.
This is just kind of a clownsession.
But me, I feel like I reallywish that he would use his
platform for something else,instead of him putting just
these incomplete movies out thatdon't make any sense.
And you know, we want tosupport our black people, our
black artists, our black writersand directors and, and you know
, I just feel like it's just awaste.
(15:07):
It's just it's.
You know, obviously this movieis gonna be for someone.
It was not for me and if in,like I said, I just feel like
you know he there's other waysfor him to use his platform for
good.
Well, you can make a good movie, you've made him before but I
think, as time goes, this hasjust kind of been like this is
the box that he's kind of puthim himself in and it sucks to
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see, I mean, but especially withthis whole mentality about
church, and you know it's beenlike that in every movie and I'm
just so sick of seeing it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I'm so sick of seeing it I think his one of the
knocks I saw in this movie.
Before we watched it.
One of the things I saw anumber of people say was that he
deals in trauma porn.
I think that is definitelysomething he's done historically
and this was like this moviewas just like complete trauma
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porn, like there was, there wasno resolution or redeeming value
or like there was really nolessons to be learned or any
point proven other than to showtrauma, pain, right, this
there's like you said, this thiscould be for some people.
It's probably for women whohave been through things like
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this who might relate to MeganGood character.
I can't imagine anybody elsegetting anything out of this
movie because it really didn'tdo anything else other than show
this woman go through thisunexplainable thing story, this
trauma and then find a new manand jump right into it with her.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I mean literally jumped right in the fire with
her and it's like why would you?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
and that's completely unnecessary because she kept
trying to hold him off and it'slike he has this traditional
hook of this there being thisredeeming, big, strapping
country boy, clean man.
It's like usually in all thesemovies right, there's some clean
man in front of you that thewoman is not interested in at
first and then she realizes thisis where all the trouble comes
(17:11):
from.
I've been looking at the wrongtype of man.
He tends to do this in everymovie, but it was like
completely pointless in this one.
It really didn't lead toanything and I think this movie
had the most potential andreally just delivered the least
out of all his movies.
It really didn't deliveranything.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It was such a dumpster fire.
I just I can't even believethat I just wasted two hours of
my life watching this.
It was just trash for me, itwas such a just.
I'm just so disappointed.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
The funny part is he also has found ways now, because
you know there's always a knockon his, his writing, because he
wants to write the script.
He owns writing the script thescripts do suck right, like you
mean, I think they.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
They really kind of pointed it out perfectly.
It's like you put this trashout nothing's complete,
everything's post, we'll fix itin post and you put it out and I
, honestly, I'm I'm disappointedin myself.
That's really what it boils.
Honestly, I'm disappointed inmyself.
That's really what it boilsdown to.
I'm disappointed in myself forwasting my time and watching
this.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So yes, to that point .
This is what I ultimately thinkabout Tyler Perry.
Tyler Perry is and y'all got tofollow me on this one y'all.
Tyler Perry to me is DonaldTrump.
Tyler Perry is dealing insomething that is successful.
It's working.
I think.
When we watch his movies, wealways see that the quality is
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bad.
We always have complaints.
We normally feel like we wastedour time, but we did it, and so
for him as a businessman,there's no reason for him to
stop and make higher qualitystuff because the public is
showing him.
We're going to show up for thisand a lot of people like most
of the people that I see andinteract with, half of them only
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watch it so they can see is itreally trash?
And can I come and review itand argue with people?
And some people say I got todefend him because he's a black
man and he's employing people.
And some people say I got todefend him because he's black
man and he's he's employingpeople.
And some people say it doesn'tmatter, he's still trash, and I
need to say this.
So it feels like to me, likemost of us are really consuming
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it because we already know it'sgoing to be trash and we like,
is it?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
is it going to be this time?
I did not.
I didn't read anything aboutthis movie and I tend not to do
that.
I like to, especially now.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
it seems like all of the previews really kind of give
the entire movie away, and Imean, that's for some people, oh
yeah, and this movie didn'thave much, so it would have
definitely given away.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
They enjoy that because they can decide if they
want to see the movie or not.
I I haven't heard anythingabout this movie, I just know he
came out with a new one and Iwatched his last one with Kelly.
What's her name?
Kelly, kelly, kelly With Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Beyonce's sister.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Cousin yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Nolan Rowland Rowland Kelly.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Rowland.
I watched the last one withKelly Rowland and I was just
like eh, I did a review on thatone.
You remember that I did areview on that one.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You remember that, remember we was down, remember
we watched that in Phoenix,right.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I watched that here.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh no, that was the other one we watched.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
What was that?
That was with Earl.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Michael Ealy, that wasn't Tyler Perry, was it?
No, that wasn't Tyler Perry.
It felt like Tyler Perry alittle bit.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But no, I watched that one here and we watched it
separate, because I think youwatched it on a plane.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah.
And it was still like I mean,you know, I thought Michael Ealy
was going to be in this becausea lot of people have been
passing around memes of CoreyHardrick and Michael Ealy, so I
thought they were both in thismovie.
I kept waiting for the sceneLike where's Michael Ealy at?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, I mean I, I um.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
There's nothing you liked about it.
He also brings down some reallygood actors like debbie morgan
is in this and she's a like.
She's been in the game for theyears and she kind of sucked in
this.
I thought her acting washorrible.
I was like man.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I thought she did a good job.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
maybe it's the script that she's reading because it
just just feels like it'slacking, like these are not
realistic reactions from people.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I thought the characters played their role.
I thought the script washorrible.
It was just all bad.
I just didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The script was really bad and there were some times
where it felt like there wasn'teven a script and they didn't
even know what to say next, itwas horrible.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It was horrible and it was like the same thing.
It felt like a recordeverything was consistently the
same thing, like didn't you justsay that and didn't?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
you just say that, yeah, they did say everything
like three or four times thisscene just literally happened
like a couple minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Why is it happening again?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I thought that too.
I had to look down at thesubtitles, like he did.
Just say that didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Didn't she just wear pink in the last scene?
Did y'all just recycle thatscene and just put it in this
one?
Because why does it feel likeI'm watching this scene over
again?
I?
Don't know, I just I no honey.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
It's a no for me.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It is a no for me.
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So will you ever?
You will never watch a TylerPerry movie again.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Not anything new that he has coming out, absolutely
not.
I will watch it, but you knowwhen the next one come out.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It's going to have the hype.
It's going to have the hook.
It might even have Beyonce init.
It's going to have something.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You know he's going to have something, unless Tyler
Perry comes out to say that he'soffering an apprenticeship to
young writers and directors tohelp give them a platform to,
you know, get their movies outthere.
No, thank you.
I mean, we know people.
We know people who are reallyout here trying to make it and
(22:33):
get their movies and their,their shows out there and it
just seems like that would havebeen.
why can't you do that instead ofput out this nonsense?
I mean, it's gotten to thepoint now like he used to make
quality stuff Now.
Granted, he did it as Medea andit started in plays and it was
super entertaining, but it'slike it just morphed into
(22:53):
something else and it justdoesn't.
It's like there's no effort putinto it, it just I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I agree with him as a playwright.
I thought he was great.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I just don't agree.
It's just like allow people touse their to to come out and and
actually put some quality workout there.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I thought he was a genius as a playwright.
It almost felt like as soon ashe went to movies he was still
writing plays.
And it just doesn't translatewell.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
He had another one that he did too, where he was um
, I can't remember what it wascalled, but it was good, but
that was a long time ago.
It's been a while since I'veliked a Tyler Farrah movie.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It's been a long while I probably like two, I
still wouldn't say any of themare great movies.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I like the Family that Prays, but even then it was
starting to get like, okay, Isee where it's going now.
Everything has kind of been Ilike the family that prays, but
even then it was starting to getlike, okay, I see where it's
going.
Yeah, it had all its hooks.
Now everything has kind of beena scenario that a family that
prays what was that?
The one with Taraji P Henson?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
The one with.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Daddy's Girls or something.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, I mean, it's just kind of been.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It was the one with Aegis Elbow with Corn Rose, it
was the one with Boris Kojo withan afro, or Aegis Elbow with an
afro and somebody else withCorn Rose or something, and
there was another one at thevery beginning with Not at least
me.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It was somebody else where she was married to the
lawyer and he got shot, oh yeah.
And that was the one you'rethinking about with.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Those usually had Madea in them to push them over.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, they did have Madea in them, but these last
ones where you just drop it andit'd be like, ooh, the wigs are
bad, everything's bad, it's somuch violence.
Ooh, it's just like I didn'tunderstand the wigs in this one.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I don't think it was needed.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I'm good, you know he's an artist and he is
extremely talented and he, youknow he's he has an audience
that he speaks to, and I'm justnot that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I will say that I agree with you.
I do think he is extremelytalented.
He knows exactly what he'sdoing, what he wants to do, and
he's successful at it.
I think, when it comes to like,you would expect somebody with
that much talent to also haveambition to make the greatest
movies right, the best, to begetting better and better as
(25:14):
time goes on.
But he seems to be just likemailing it in it's actually
getting worse, if you judge bythis movie, and I don don't know
, maybe he's using this as cashgrab to build his empire down
there in Georgia and it willturn into what you said yeah,
down in Douglasville.
So hey, hit us up, we gotstories.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We know folks, you know, y'all see my husband's
hair.
It's really nice, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, my wife got me twisted up.
We's really good.
We don't usually do videopodcasts you know.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
so y'all get to see us in bed.
Me not At my best, I don't feelthe rightest.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I know my babe's getting better, but at least
y'all get to see us as we are,candid as we are.
You know Y'all lucky we ain'tdoing some other stuff in bed.
You know what I'm saying.
Maybe we would for our purposes.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
this is the open book podcast, and this is our review
of what was the name of themovie, by the way, I don't know
yo.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And then she signed the divorce papers without
reading them.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
No lawyer, it was just like and I get it.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
that's a cool scene if you're setting up the fact
that she just signed over somestuff, but you never did.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You never said it.
Everything happened in a day.
You go party, they throw you aparty, old boy is there, you
take him back to your house, youtalk about you changed your
locks, when, when you literallyjust cite the papers Especially
when you live an hour and 15minutes away from your job.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You already said that you live an hour and 15 minutes
away from your hometown.
You've said that multiple timesno, but they had this at her
house, at the old girl's houseoh yeah, that's right, but what
I wanted to know is how did thedude her best friend's husband?
He was at the party First ofall.
He had all kinds of malestrippers there and dude
chilling up in the.
I would not have been chillingat that party, but dude was at
(27:08):
the party.
He was there to support hiswife he was at the party.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's a good thing.
He was there because he was agood old boy out of there.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
But he was wearing a different suit than he was 10
minutes before when he was 10minutes before when he was
signing the thing, but that wassupposed to be earlier in the
day right, it just was likeeverything was just like.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
The timing was just trash.
They probably filmed all ofthat in a day.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Probably I will say this man, my man.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
He did good with some of the scenes visually,
although again, but there wassome nice, some beautiful shots,
yes, but Tyler Perry issubtlety is not his thing
weeping willow trees yes, andthe country and that song they
played was beautiful the songwas dope that was probably, but
he beat you over the head withit.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
He don't be subtle with it, right?
So he mentioned Chris Stapletonright before they played the
Chris Stapleton song.
Then he had the Weeping Willowtrees.
As soon as I saw them walk,drive past Weeping Willow trees,
I was like there's going to bea sad scene with this.
There's going to be some waythat he uses these trees, and he
did, but he used them in a verybeautiful way.
But one of the things that Ithought it kind of was like a
(28:15):
harking back.
It was like a throwback toEve's Bayou.
Where wasn't Megan Good andDebbie Morgan, both in East
Bayou?
So I thought that was prettydope.
You know, like, for the movieheads to reckon back, you know
what I mean to hearken back andbe like yo, I remember that.
So I thought that was prettygood.
I thought he did pretty goodwith the visuals, Everything
(28:35):
that he does, though he'sextremely heavy-handed and he
does not use subtlety.
But I mean that's just a style.
You know.
If you're into it, you're intoit.
You know like what was?
The one line dude was like Iguess I'm gonna put the fire out
tonight, and it was like thatwas very overt of what's going
(28:55):
on right now which was cool, itworked it worked.
Yeah, that's what that isalright, babe, run it up one out
of ten.
Run it up.
What is?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
it zero for that scene.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, I did so.
That's what.
That is.
All right, babe, run it up.
One out of ten.
Run it up.
What is it?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Zero.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Ooh.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Ooh, I'd give it a three, maybe a four, definitely
not a five Best scene.
Gotta be the funeral scene,right I mean, that was the one
that caused the intrigue theypulled on my casket.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's gotta be what about you?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
what was your?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
list.
What is it gotta be?
Oh, my rating four what is your?
Best scene, best funeral scene?
Gotta be the funeral scene.
There were no other good scenesin my opinion.
Like there were some decentones, Like you know them at the
park.
I like the weeping willow, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I don't like the scene.
I like the transition of themplaying the song and you getting
the bigger picture of theweeping willow.
That's it.
That scene was just like.
You know what I thought.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
The one thing that messed that scene up for me was
that song was so beautiful, butthe words of that song didn't
match that scene.
The words were about the couplefighting.
Those words should have beenplayed, with her and Corey
Hardrick going at it.
I thought that would have beenmore, but they never showed them
.
It wouldn't have been realisticin that way, that's true.
It wouldn't have been realisticin that way, though.
(30:23):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It didn't fit.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I think if they could have showed some scenes of them
actually having a marriage thatthey wanted to fight for, that
music would have went perfectwith it.
But that's not what this moviewas about.
They didn't have a marriagethat they wanted to show that
was worth fighting for.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And I think that he said the song because maybe that
was what the outcome was of hismarriage.
Yeah, and that's why he wantedher to hear it, but it didn't
fit for her marriage.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No it didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
All right, this is 30 Minutes.
Deuces y'all Deuces.
Peace y'all Rock with us.
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