May 11, 2023 • 53 mins
Do you want to be extremely emotionally wrecked? Anna and Krista point you toward Kevin Puts' The Hours, based on the novel and movie. From the libretto and music to the acting, it takes hold and doesn't let go till the end. And you thought Terrence Blanchard had that market cornered...
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Hello one, and welcome to ourlate late and welcome to a late in
the week episode of the Opera TrashPodcast. I am Krista and I am
Anna and uh yeah this this wegot side tracked because of course this past
weekend was not only it was theconsistor be and we also got caught up
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in the in the uh the Helleeluethat was the coreation of King Charles third
Um. Happy side Day, Yeah, Happy side chick Day. Prince Louis
or Prince Louis just look like youdidn't have one single solitary fuck to give
of him. Yeah. People werelike, what's a lot of good for
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I'm like me, this means thatyoungest one is excellent. For means I've
loved him. I love That's whatcares. Not a single fig. No,
what was it? I watched itwas it Monday, I said,
I saw clips of of of theof Cayton, William, Catherine and William
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with the kids. They were itwas like the big it was like a
big day out or something like that, the Big Hell Day or something like
that. Whatever. It was likebecause there's a bank holiday on the Monday
and they were doing volunteering at thisone place, and and Louis they had
him like trying to put dirt ina will barrel. Oh yeah, he
was like not giving a ship howhe did it. No, I'm just
gonna do this my own way.And it's all over the place. Oh
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yeah. And then of course,um and of course he was like he
was yeah, he was, Yeah, you don't want to have a five
room messing around with paint, andyet they did that. He's like walking
around paint on his hands because theyhad like he did like a handprint on
the wall and he's walking around like, yeah, like and where I put
on my handprints? Yeah? Everywhere? Yeah, all the handprints were suckers
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like. And then they had likethe three kids were doing like archery,
okay it with like weapon down.Oh god was glorious. I'm reerly.
My mom was like, oh,well he's five now, maybe he'll behave
himself a little bit more. AndI'm like that hold when Harry out a
window, like, I sincerely fuckingdown, that child will be Look,
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I don't think he'll cost too muchof a ruckus, but he's definitely he
does not yet. Yeah, helike I can tell that Catherine is a
like cracks down on them. SheI see her like in pictures, like
bending down in her stiletters to school. Yeah, to scoold them when they
were when they were at a line. But yeah, yeah, there's no
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way that child will ever have asingle solitary again. But I don't think
no, no, So go thosetwo principles to Prince Louis of Wales.
We love him, We love thatkid. Yes, um And it was
what was it? I saw itin TikTok somebody had somebody had recorded like
when Queen Camilla comes in the intothe to the choir in the in the
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church, and the choir scenes vibead to Regina Camilla. They're like the
person post is that who posted?Like the coaption it sounds that, it
sounds this is what it sounds like. I like Vagina Camilla. Well,
isn't that what Charles said to her? Don't we remember? We don't?
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We do remember champun Gate, don'twe we try to forget that? Yeah,
we do play place. Don't googletampon Gate if you if you named
Brussel Howard, that got me intoand on his UM one special, he
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sang a song about the igs tuneof God Save the King and it went
and those are a quarter of yearsand years ago, so quinl was.
But the second was a live andit went and I sang it like after
all the times they played God Savedthe King, Um I was. I
finally just snapped and started singing it. Yeah, because I hate they talked
about it, moming lost it.The song goes and I quote God Saved
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mar Ahs. It really is thebest. Liz will be fine. Hell
those and party keep kids himself hungfor me. Give Donald trumpa la barto
me EII when he sings it.Yeah, I sang in mom cut lost
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her ship, laughing. Okay,let I'm gonna look at I'm not gonna
play it, but we'll look atand find it. Oh no, you
know what. I'm gonna play itscared. Let's see scure, I'm gonna
find it. I mean for gorandamshow. Yeah, really you see?
Uh, God Save the na dashere we go. Oh my god?
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How's this for a new naturally anthem? The English National anthem as some sad
song in the world. We're English. We love singing it, but we
don't believe in bods. We knowshe's safe and you've seen it time magic
man in the club. Look,God, lady, what safe? Why
have we not evil time for thiscountry? Three cannibany. We need a
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new anthem that can bring everyone together. I want to hear this Wembley God
Save Chess verse. I can't,but that's not the entire thing. Wait
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a bite, Yeah, that's notthe entire thing. Hold on, but
if I can, let me,let me message it. Oh wait,
wait it's Affe versions. Don't youmight sh I have a lunch maybe some
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chance? The cold Ray spongebab thetea monkey calls, oh did you find
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it? No? I didn't findout. Why you always stay here?
You know what? I'm just gonnamessage shouldn't and be like, shouldn't you
have the fool God save our NHS? Clip? But yeah, that was
too short of a clip. MIt's on his special Recalibrate which is on
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Netflix, and I highly recommend itwatching it in full because it is fucking
hilarious. Okay ooh hell is itIM saying do you have the fool God
save already chess? Crystal wants it. I may or may not have sang
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it on our podcast. Oh hereally, Crystal Howard recalibrating. Yeah.
Uh, god sink we know that. I mean you no, that's part
of it. That's part of it. Well, that's part of the whole
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thing. But that's not where Okay, okay, oh yeah, it's one
of the best things. Let's see. Oh, let's see. Yeah,
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this is awesome. Yeah, thisis this is us looking at it,
looking up, start looking up thegod. That's hilarious. This will be
fine Ei ei I love that.Okay, good Lord. But while she's
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looking that up, Uh, thereis really not much. Yeah, there
is really not much news to go. If you get you can tell uh
the onody else is getting a mostinfra sexual harassion. But surprisingly it's not
plaster. Yeah it isn't. Uh. Let really, um let's see now
the Berlatin Field Harmonic did uh releaseit's um It's twenty three twenty season.
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And of course the reason I mentionedit is because from last year, uh
yonis did you know a series threeconcerts? Uh for New Year's um,
let's see yoonas coffin Rings of theNew Year with feet with what that can't
pronounce all same, but it's tosay it's the lady who was the zigland
to his Zigland uh In uh InNaples and Derek Zappinfeld Zepperinfeld is al still
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going to be there for a concertof works by Wagner. So it's gonna
be a vader evening to bring inthe new year with Korea drank out so
um girl fashion Bob, yes,good lord. Yeah. The best part
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of get is insist in your captain. Yeah, that's pretty much the only
thing. Oh and by the way, speaking of the coordination, Uh,
if you didn't if you didn't watchit, find it good like Ica BBC
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News and yeah, um and uhand um. Pretty sang at it as
well as so very terribul he sanghe signed the curiate in Welsh, sang
the curiate in Welsh and also conductingthe orchestra for the coordination was our very
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sir Anthony M. Yeah. Yeah, pretty under started to sing and Mom's
like, oh, like, Iknow that, but I think that's pretty
yay. I've seen her. I'veseen the productions or production of Melicier to
more so damn any time. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way,
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the the the Astro della pro romathey are going to have they are gonna
show the um h, They're notgonna show the Uh, they're not gonna
show the good version, um,the good version of them Butterfly, it's
gonna be the oppera Australia co production. Um, it's a new production code,
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it's a new stagtion with it,which is a co production with Opera
Australia. Um, yeah, it'sit's gonna be it's gonna be new.
I thought it was the picture thatthey show. It's a little deceiving because
it's the met Opera staging. Uh, their beloved Anthony and Della production.
But Elinor or Barado is going tobe. Uh, it's gonna play on
as to see, and let's seewith Dmitro Papa's Pinkerton, Adam Buria Cheri
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as Suzuki and Roberto Frontale as Sharplessand Roberto Aboto will conduct a cat will
conduct the cast. But I thoughtthat was interesting. I thought at first
it was oh, the anthem Yngelaversion is on. It's a bright new
production. Um, let's see.That's pretty much it. And in terms
of news, a lot of justman, you know, just oh um
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oh yeah yeah wait wait, letme find her, let me find her.
Yeah, she was a she wasa very there was a we we
didn't want to do a deucation.Let me find her here, I don't
forgot about that. Let's see here, Yeah, let me find her.
Yeah, Chris bumb she uh.This is a legendary and trail blazing met
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soprano. Grace Bumbry has passed awayat the eighty passed away of May seventh
in vi end of Austria. Recently, she suffered in acute estemic stroke football
fall and was hospitalized. Bumber wasa member of a pioneering generation of African
America opera and African American opera andclassical singers in the worlds of opera and
classical music and help help pave theway for teuture generations of African American opera
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and concert singers. She was alsoa seer with a wide range that Nulli's
saying mesa roles, but also performednews soprano roles with great success. Um,
let's see, let's see she oh, this is. Her father was
a rail importer. Her mother wasa school teacher. She graduated from the
prestigious Charleston Their High School, thefirst black high school west of the Mississippi.
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Her voice teacher, Kenneth Phillips praisedher for her vocal prowess and urged
her to enter a teen talent contestsponsored by Statelierwis radio station KMOX. She
would win the contest, which includeda one thousand dollars ward on a trip
to New York and the scholarship tothe Sailoris Institute of Music. However,
the institute not accept her because shewas black. However, the concert promoters
arrange that she appeared on author guardArthur Bodfrey's nationally televised Talent Scouts program,
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singing a Verity's Opera Verities Area odinFatale. That performance allowed her to a
Boston University College of Fine Arts,and she later transferred to north Western Bumbara
would later it would study with LastedLayman at the Music Academy of the West
in San Barbara and in nineteen fiftyeight one the Metropolitan Opera National Council Auditions.
Her operatic debut came in nineteen sixtyat Naires and at the Paris Opera
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at the age of twenty four.International recognition when she's saying as Venus and
Tanhoiser at Barboy and because the firstblack singer who appear at the Fame Festival.
Yeah, she received a thirty minuteovation for her Yeah. She received
a thirty minute ovation for her performancethere, including forty two curtain calls,
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fuck you, Wagner, so good, Bangner, Okay, Wagner Um.
That performance led her to the WhiteHouse at the invination of Dapplin Kenedy.
She would return to An in eighteeneighty one to sing at Ronald Brain's denegration.
Brumbery went onto debut at every majoropera house, including the Royal Opera
House in nineteen sixty three, Loscalain nineteen sixty four and in the Mean
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in nineteen sixty four, and theMat and Matt in nineteen sixty five.
In the seven in the seventies,Bumber made her debuts soprano, singing the
role of Zalame in nineteen seventy atSetup in Barton, and later debuted the
title of Tuska at the Met.Her repertoire included Princess Ebili in Don Carlo,
These Days, Carmen, Lady Macbethin Verduce McBeth, Bellini's Norma,
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Abigail and Verdues Mbuko, Laura Dornoand Lejaconda, and the title role of
Tosca she took. She also tooka rail roles such Ziona Chiufa, Lucas
arian at arian A Barbleu and andZelika in Myerba for keen A noticed soprano
rules in her career have included shemen listed Elizabeth in Hanhuiser and Leonora and
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both Eltervatory and La Force Destino andamong others, nay Um in n teen
I. She found it and touredwith the Grace Bumbree Black Musli Heritage Ensemble,
a group to vote two preserve andperforming traditional Negro churchles. She also
devoted herself to teaching and judging internationalcompetitions into the concert stage. In twenty
ten, after an absence of manyyears on from the opera stage, she
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performed in Scott John's Truman Trumanisia atthe Chatais in Paris, and twenty and
thirteen she returned to de Lan asthe count Is in checov Sees the Queen
of Spades Uh. She went onto a meny awards, including being adducted
into the Saint Lotis Walk of Fameand was episode with Eudesco Award, the
Distinguished Alumna Award from the Academy Musicof the West, Italy's Premio gies Up
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be very U and she was alsonamed committed common dude is Electa by the
French she received agreem she received.She received a Grammy Award in n eighteen
seventy two for Best Opera Recording.On December sixteen nine, she was among
those honored with the two thousand nineKennedy Center Honors. On December fifth,
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twenty twenty one, she made tributeto her friend just Usino Diaz, who
was one of the five people beinghonored that night for the twenty one twenty
one County Center Honors. In twentytwenty, Recision Award in Martina Franca,
becoming the first African American to beto be recognized with the award. Premio
or Dolpho Cheletti Barbaria left him legendary. Discovera includes recordings of Carmen Norma,
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Don Carlo, I Got La Forza, Deltas to Do and Carmen Jones Yeah
So Yeah, let us dedicated tothis episode to Grace Bumbree, trailblazing badass
woman who who couldn't get into thecouldn't get into a into Lewis but bought
in but got her but succeeded elsewhereand yeah and in abundance. So yeah,
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may her memory be for a personyep, make your yeah, and
yeah, fuck your counse founder,and may her memory be a blessing may
the eternal. Oh my god,that is wonderful. Um. So yeah,
that's I think. And I thinkif if this had been if this
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had been a role, if inthis, if this opera we're gonna talk
about to say, if this hadbeen a role that she would have been
that she would have been available beforeshe probably would have saying it. I
think she would have. All right, So let us get to and that
and that aufers that we were talkingabout, because we were gonna talk about
uh, we were gonna watch uhum yeah, yeah, we were gonna
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yeah, we were gonna talk aboutthat. We were gonna watch that,
but we were gonna watch with verTerror. But were we watched hard.
We werena watch him, but Ifound on the Met's website the hours if
you remember, backpay December. Um, we were all set to watch that
on the Live at home yeah,because they because that was like the second
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that would have been the second onethat watched after Medeia. Um but the
yeah, but some at pat hackedthe Mets website in their box office and
we couldn't watch it. Yeah yeah, and if you remember the box office
even it was hacked to the pointwhere uh if an f at Hall had
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to had to just stepped in andsaid, hey, if anybody needs tickets
to a performance, we'll we'll we'llprocess the tickets for them. Follow down,
we'll process the tickets for them.So so it took a while,
but it came but they came back. But in the meantime, like I
HI already purchased my ticket for thehours, it had been refunded. So
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so that made me mad that he'slike, god damn it, I wanted
to watch that, so I've Soit took five months for us for that's
come in to come around. Butit's now on that on demand. So
if you whether you can have aseven when you do the seven day trial
or you purchase it like to runit, you can you can now watch
the hours and let me fucking tellyou, watch the goddamn thing. Yes,
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that's all we're gonna tell you forright now, watch the god damn
thing. We'll get into it.So. Um, So I'm going to
go ahead and read these roles umbecause there are quite a few of them.
But let me go ahead read these. Um. So the roles are
as follows. And I sent youthat I sent you the outline. Um.
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Okay, So the roles are asfollows. Clarissa Vaughan book editor,
who is the surprio Virginia Wolf.And is this the cast? By the
way, I'm gonna read the castas well, because this was the premier
cast because it made its premiere atthe mat Um Clursiva book editor who was
played by Renee Flying Virginia Wolf,novelist of Missus Dollaway who was played by
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Joystano, who's a metsto. LaraBrown housewife and mother who was played by
Kelli O'Hara. Richard Clares's friend,baritone played Kettleson uh Sally Claris's partner who's
played by mezzo sop James Graves.Richie Laura's son played by way soprano Kai
Edgar. He was he was uhlet Wolf, Virginia's husband who was played
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by Tennor Sean Panakar. Dan BrownMoore's husband played by bass Barton Brendan Sadel,
Louis Richards former lever who was playedby tender William Burton Walter writer Averman's
novels, played by tender Chodi Stephenson. Barbara Forrest who was played by Kathleen
Soprano Kathleen kim She if you rememberuh in Tales of Hoffman, she was
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Olympia H. Kennedy. Laura's dabwho is a soprano is Sylvia Derremo.
The man under the arch who wasa Who's count tenor John Holiday, Nellie
Virginia and Leonard's cult who was amissus soprano Eva Gelotti. Uh yeah,
and um Vanessa Virginia's sister who issoprano? Who who was against Sylvia Derrimo?
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I hope the hotel clerk was Johnhalliway missus latch what Richie's babysitter was
Katherine Camp Uh. There and thereare three There are three children, Julian
Kaunton and Angelica Finessed his children playedby a s where Patrick Scott McDermott and
Lena jos being Ranto. And thenthere's uh. There are a couple of
dancers. There's Missus Delaway. Thetitle character of Virginia's nol and Septimus Warren
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Smith another character, and Missus Dalloway, and then there's chorus and dancers.
Okay, and of course, bythe way, the conductor was our precious
campositum role. Okay, all right, go ahead and reads the composition narre
story. It was written by KevinePutts with a lobroto by Greg Pearce.
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It's based on the book The Hoursby Michael Kinnaham and the movie version which
was written by David character by StephenDaldry. And they did remember twenty second
twenty twenty two at the Met.According to Christa, the punk fact is,
the idea for this all came fromKevin Potts and Nie Dummings. Yeah,
they were cording Tournie flamming. Theythey have been talking and one and
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uh Renny got the idea of theywere they were thrown around different ideas for
operas and this this came and thiswould an opera, This would be a
good opera and hec yeah, hedid the thing. Yeah, so let
me go ahead and read. Uh, now this is this is an operate
in two acts. So uh.The performance history is The Hours was first
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performed on March eighteenth point twenty two, in a preview concert presentation at the
Kimmel Center by the Philadelphia Orchestra underconductor cambracoas sediment role the singers including everybody
knows who does uh? Everybody knowsYeah, Everybody's Richie, everybody knows couva
uh. The singers included Renee Flemingas Clarissa, Jeffer Johnson Kno as Virginia
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Wolf, Callie Hara as Lauren Brown, Brett Polagon, Coladado as Richard,
Yums, mccorkill as Letter Wolf,Defra and Steele as Sally, and Brendan
Settle as Dan Nan, who wasalso music to recommend conduct of the stage
premiere at that Coope's House on devepertwenty second, twenty twenty two, in
a production by Fellow McDermott. Ifyou remember who Fella McDermott is, he's
the guy who did the staging forboth Aknat and satikaha Um. The set
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and costume designer was Tom High,and the choreographers and B Parston. According
to Jeff London, writing for NPR, the course of dancers are constantly on
stage, helping to underline the centralcharacter emotional states. The company performs the
opera eight times. As part oftheir twenty twenty three season. The opera
was boadcast on their on met Operadioon series XM video streamed at met Opera
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dot Org. That is actually nottrue. The performance of Tennis Cember was
videocast to maybe theaterists parts of theMetropolitan Live an HD series, and it
was telecast on March March seventeenth byPDS. Is part of the Great Performances
at the Met series. So that'swhy it's now on on demand. All
right, So let me get intothe synopsis. This is the story is
about a single day in the livesof three women. Book editor Club Vaughan
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in New York's West Village in eighteeneighty nine, novelist Genia Wolf in Richmond,
England in eighteen twenty three, andhousewife and mother Laura Brown in Los
Angeles in eighteen twenty nine. Allright, so Act one says the chorus
sings fragments of the opening of Virginia'snovels and Missus Dollaway the working title,
which was the Hours Missus Dollaway saidshe would buy the flourish herself Clarissa and
her partner Sally, are preparing herpartment for party in honor of Clariss's best
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friend, Richard, who later thatdays tended to receive an award which recently
published novel. Richard is seriously ohwith aids, and Sally questions whether he'll
be able to come. Clarissa insistshe will be able to attend. Lorisa
goes without by Flowers any Boy's shop. On her way, she passed through
Washington Square knows is the unusual singingof a man under the arch. By
chance, she encounters Walter, thewriter of ge Erman Says, who knows
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Richard and who she invites the party. Walter also expresses doubt that Richard is
well enough to atend the party.In her house in the London blooded summer
of Richmond, Virginia has awakened andentered her office, anxious to begin her
new new novel. Her husband,Leonard, a proof editor, is concerned
about her health and tries to gether to eat some breakfast, but she
refuses. She considers the many roleshe plays her life. Clarissette arrives at
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the Flowers Shot and the floriss Barbarakisses her on the mouth. Clarissa Briteing
imagines what would be like if Barbaraand she were lovers and they would never
need to leave the job. Shefinds the flowers she wants and departs for
Richard's department. In her office,Virginia finds it difficult to begin her novel.
Thinks of central London and its manydiversions so different from her drap existence
in the suburban Richmond. Overcoming herhesitation, she starts to write. In
Los Angeles. In her bed,Laura Brown is reading the same lines from
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Missus Dallaway. She feels guilty thatshe's avoiding her Dude's his wife and mother.
Although it is her Dan hunting Dan'sbirthday and he and their six year
old son, Richie are waiting forher in the kitchen. She resumes reading.
Eventually she goes down to the kitchen. Brire, Dana Ritchie express worries
for about her dan leashed work.Clarissaber considers whether her relationship of almost eighteen
years for Sally is filling enough.Virginia cannot decide which of the characters in
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her novel will die. Laura allowsRichie to help her bake Dan's birthday cake,
even though Richie will surely spoil it, and feels even her efforts are
inadequate. Clara stops on the streeton Lady Richards and remembers the time she
casually broke off the romantic relationship withsimple, thoughtless words. She wonders what
they had been had if she hadnot done so. She edgues Hitch's heartment
to remind him of the party,but finds him weak and forgetful. He
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calls her missus Daladwise's. Her firstname is the same as the novel's being
director. She dislikes the nickname becauseit's because it is such a tragic story.
He says he is unable to attendthe party, but Clarissa approaches him
for not making more of an effort. He confesses he still physicizes about whether
they could have been lovers. Clarissasays she needs to leave and return to
her heart apartment put the flowers inwater so they will not wilt. In
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her kitchen, Laura is unhappy withthe progress of the King. Virginia asked
her Cooknelly about whether whether young girlwho started the day happy could decide commune
suicide. He says if the girlbecame despairing, it was possible. Virginia
engages a suicidal fantasy for seeing herdeath. Kitty unexpectedly visits Laura. The
doctor has told her she just agrowth inside her and needs to have to
look at it can more feed herjob. Laura is sorry for Kitty,
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feels tenderness for her and holds her. They touched the lips together, but
after a moment, Kitty pulls away. Virginia, who has become anxious,
stops writing and goes outdoors. Clarissaenters her apartment. Sally is thinking about
how's her brains the chairs. Clarissa, worried about Richard, decided to go
back to see him. Virginia wantedto escape Richmond considers whether to take the
train to London or round herself inthe river. Laura's feeling in sightful the
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home, takes Richard to Vicius lastand miss Lass there's hicitor and drives towards
Pasadena with no plan. In Acttwo, Laura enters the room at the
Normandy Hotels, their tattered copy ofMissus Dallaway and a bottle of bills she
calls as art. Encounter with thehotel clerk. While reading Missus Dalloways,
she imagines Virginia heading to the Rugurdto kill herself. Laura considers suicide.
Virginia, distracted by the voice ofthe man offer of the arch, is
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found by Leonard, who expresses hisfair finding her dad having to tell her
sister Vanessa of his failure to saveher, Virginia is deserved by the intensity.
Is distressed on her way to RichardsClosely Here's a Quire, seeing lyric
exceedingly directed at her. In frontof Richard's building, she encounters Lewis and
Richards from her boyman, who can'tstop whether to visit him. Lewiser calls
heard the three of them are lovelywhen he was shut up by their closeness,
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Richard wanting him only for his body, but wanting Clarissa for everything else.
In her office, Virginia hears childrentalking and wondering is she's going crazy.
In her garden, she finds hersister and send her three children,
Julian Quenton and Angelica Quarantina is nota sick word, which she thinks is
still alive. They decided to makea bed of grass root to die in
Virginia identifies the birdis female because itis a bit more draft than the males.
She begins making the bed for thebird, adding roses picked from the
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garden. She realizes that the birdis dead and begins for nigely making the
bed, accidentally pricking Angelica's finger witha thornton. Vanessa and her children retreat,
realizing the severity of Virginia's illness,Laura and her hood and rebukes herself
for things to her side, andshe has a young son and her baby
on the way to take care of. She decides to remain alive and return
to her her obligations as a mother. Claire still lets herself into Richard's aparden
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and find someone wouldn't have still andlearned sell five stories above the ground.
She attempts to persuade him to comeback inside. He said he only wanted
to write something good, not great, something that would touch someone. He
tells her he loves her, slidesoff the stew and falls outside. Claire
the hesitant, leapers out the oneand realizes he is dead. Clarissa appears
on the street and bends over Richard'slifeless body. The of course can be
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heard repeating and reassembling words and thoughtsfrom the day. Laura leaves the hotel,
Virginia realizes that she's losing her mind. Laura x Rishi up from the
citter and he tells her he wasscared because he thought, like Katie,
she had something growing inside her.At their dining table, Virginia express his
gratitude to Leonard for having given herthe greatest possible happiness. Dan returns home
just birthday party and it tells usfamily how happy they have made him.
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At Sally clarissas the party has becomeawake, Richard's mother Laura arrives and realizes
interviews she abandoned Dan and Richie andfeels your crime because the three family you
know, protagonists Laura Thurs and Virginia'sSecuria, realizing that if in their connection
to one another across different kinds ofplaces, they are not of them.
Okay, can I tell you fromthe outset as we're watching, thus it
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hits you like yeah, there,it's like it's like a champion. It
builds like champion it was, itwould build, it would get Yeah,
it took a while her to buildup and just you know, look like
like hits you Okay, this hitsyou from the get go. Yeah,
and and it just gets more andmore intense as it goes on. Um
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Anna point out at the end whenthey're sitting when Virginia and then he actually
at the table Virginia is sitting,is singing the lyrics, the lyrics as
she's singing or from her suicide note. Yep, they quoted her suicide note
which I actually pull up they'd noticed. My only complaint is they cut they
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didn't. They didn't use your truthsfinal line that they did from the movie
in the book, Um, andit will make more. And what he
says is before he jumps out thewindow, he says to her, he
says to Clarissa, I don't thinkanyone me hold on, I'm trying to
(32:00):
I don't think people could have beenhappier than we have been. Yeah,
and then he jumps yea he quoteand it was just so so. But
honestly, the way they changed it, I didn't think it could be made
any sadder or more heartwrenching, butthey managed it. Yeah, but this
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was um Virginia Wolves note they actuallyuse this in the movie to quet him
in. Wolf narrated that while she'swriting it, Dearest, I feel certain
that I'm going mad again. Ifeel we can't go through another of those
terrible times, and I shouldn't recarrethis time. I begin to hear voices,
and I can't concentrate. So I'mdoing what seems the best thing to
do. You've given me the greatestpossible happiness. You have been in every
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way all that anyone could be.I don't think two people could have been
happier until this terrible disease came.I can't find it any longer. I
know that I'm sparing your life,that without me you could work, and
you will. I know you see. I can't even work this properly.
I can't read. What I wantto say is all the happliness of my
life to you. You have beenentirely patient with me and incredibly good.
I want to say that everybody knowsthat if anybody could have saved me,
it would have been new. Everyonehas gone from everything has gone for me,
(33:05):
but the third hero goodness. Ican't go and spoiling you're like any
longer. I don't think people couldhave been happier than we have been.
FEET say that, I because becauseat one point in the in their in
their interactions, she says, I'mspoiling your life. It's like, yeah,
but oh my god. Another thingthat they cut from the ending that
(33:27):
actually would have made it even moreum awful. M Um at the end,
when they revealed finally that Laura BrownChidred's mother, she um at the
end mentions that um dan Um diedof alcoholism and the baby that she was
(34:00):
pregnant with, the daughter, letit be daughter, and that she died
in a car accident. Yeah,they don't mention that. Yeah, so
they don't mention any in the movie. Yeah, in the opera. I
do believe they mentioned it in inthe movie. Yeah, but but I
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think it's like there's that's like whenyou watch it and when you watch the
movie version, there's that tension inthe build up, you know, especially
when you see Clarissa and Richard,there's that tension to build and I will
maintain until the day I fucking die. That Ed Harris got robbed at the
Oscars that year. He did heplayed Richard and robbed. Oh yeah he
(34:50):
did. And yeah, there thatthat tension between him and Meryl Streep in
that scene, and that in thescene and and you get that it's like
amplified with the music and with thesinging between Kyle Kentleman and uh and Rinick
Fleming, it is amplified. Soyou are holding your breath because if you're
(35:14):
if you're familiar with the story,you know what's going to happen. But
to hold your breath thinking, ohgod, you know, I think,
you know, wondering when when it'sgoing to happen, and then it does,
and and it's like, oh shit, you know um and to know
that, like and it's it hitsyou so hard, like the like that
(35:36):
part Laura's like what Laura goes throughand get the end when she says that
she left Dan and Ritchie and thenuh, and then to know that even
with that, you know, withwith with that little snippet of of um
Verninia Wolf's life, that you knowwhat happened shortly after that, Uh yeah,
(35:57):
you're You're just It's another emotionally wreckingopera. It is. I sobbed
I can do. I've read thebook multiple times and I've seen the movie
and I just I had to callmy mother after you were done. It
was after midnight, and I said, my mom, are you still awake,
I have a doll. Oh mygod. It was like, I'm
(36:17):
not okay, So what did wedo? Compress? So we watch compress.
We watched the video for Tom Carter'ssong how do you checked your both
hole? Yeah, that's a goodpellet glaser right there, U, but
no, seriously if it's n God, and what Richard says, yeah before
(36:43):
he jumps about you know, okay, so it makes a better but what
about the hours after that? Andafter that and after that? Mhm.
It finally as an adult, um, my dad, those of you who
are regular listeners, no, mydad's no or alive. He died of
lung cancer when I was nineteen,and I found out a few years after
(37:06):
that. Mom was honest with meand had said that, you know,
Dad that even though the twombers andevery came, we're shrinking, chemo had
worked and they were talking about radiation. The Dad said, no, I
don't want to do it anymore.And it took me until watching the Hours
and hearing Richard that Richard's last areato finally understand exactly why Dad made that
(37:30):
choice, because it was making thechemo was getting rid of the cancer,
but everything else was making him sick. Yeah, and if this was like
nineteen and nine, then whatever,Well, I mean, we know the
cops aren't all that good now keepingpeople from having side effects and stuff.
But back in ninety nine, holyshit. So it it different? Is
(37:54):
but I understood finally, Yeah,and that made it hit possibly even harder.
Yeah, if that's possible. Andthen just when I had gotten myself
calmed down, the final three yearof happen and I saw, yeah,
yeah, it's like this is what. It grabs your heart and twists it.
(38:15):
Yeah. And it does that.Yeah, it does that from the
very beginning. It grabs your heartbecause because like because like the whole thing
is like I don't know if Richard'sgonna be well enough to come to party.
Oh he's going to be, soyou already know. Yeah, there's
a big chance that he's not gonnamake it. But how he's not gonna
make it is Yeah. If ifyou're not if you're not familiar with the
(38:36):
storyline, you know, you're like, oh, how is it? What
do you mean? He may notmake it? But how is so?
How is he not gonna make it? Grabs your heart? Then there's Virginia,
who is who you know is suffering, you can tell. And she
and she's bad. She's trying towork through it and um and trust me,
yeah, like Anna and I bothknow we we are you know,
(38:57):
we battled metal llists. We knowhow that is. You know that feeling
like suffocate, the suffocating doing Yeah, and so so to see that and
Joyce and kudos to all three ofthese women. Joycey's not a Rayfleming and
Kali Era like Joyce did not knowinarticular because there's not because she got into
(39:20):
she got into that character she thatwas amazing. Um and and just she
she ran with it. But youknow, just to see and to know
how badly she how badly, howbad it was with her and and that
her and that Leonards stood by herand it was trying to help her in
(39:44):
any way he could, in anyevery way he could. That was you
know that like you start your itstarts to twist your heart and then you
have and then you have Laura whois kind of disengaged from me from like
her her motherly wifely duties. Butuh and and she's like it's like I
(40:04):
don't know, it's kind of likeyou know, things aren't what they should
things aren't what she thought they wouldbe. I guess and uh, and
she tries to, she tries toto make the best of it. And
at one point and she's just like, I can't do this. I remember,
I'll be honest with you guys.My mom when she hit men a
pause, it it made her crazy. Um she went, she spiraled into
(40:29):
depression and she had to be puton Zoe lof But at one point,
uh, she for with no warning, she jumped in her car and drove
off and she ended up lost onthe eye Turnmike, so she had to
find her way back home. SoI understand, like, lord, driving
off capacities with no with you know, no, yeah, because that's what
(40:52):
Mom did the one time. AndI can tell you I can say I
dreaded being the him now because that'saround the time that Mom did that.
That happened to Mom. And I'mlike, I don't want to turn that
age. I don't want to endup. I don't want to end up
losing my mind like my mother whenI when I hit menopause. Thankfully I
have embraced it. I can sithere and make a joke like, oh,
(41:14):
it's my it's my five o'clock.My five a hot flash, you
know, I I joke about that. My five, My five o'clock hot
flash is here. Um, butthe five all I can think of that
with the boots on five o'clock.Thanks, sorry, not sorry flash,
you know, I'm not sorry.But yeah, yeah, I have that.
(41:36):
I do like I can't sorry becauseI can't address because it'll trigger hot
flash. I can't, you know, I have. I have to like
underdress when I go to bed becauseif I already, if I get chally,
it's rigger hot flash. Yeah,it's yeah. If I yeah,
(41:57):
seriously, if I if I putlike something on that I'll keep me warm.
At some point in the night,I'll get overheated, and it will
your hot flash, which effortably whatit does too, it triggers. It
triggers the response of oh, youhave to go pee. Seriously, I
got hot flash. I have totake this. It's it's it's bad.
So it's like the metopause version ofPhilbert's comic book reading, get a flash,
(42:22):
take a piss, Yeah, anda flash tis yeah it is.
And so then I forget wash yourhand, yes, and then and then
of course, and then of courseI go back you got to come out
of the bathroom. Out of thebathroom half sleep, I go back to
bed and I lay there until Iuntil my body stopped feeling like it's going
(42:44):
to spontaneously can bust, and Istart feeling cold again. So then I
ever go back to sleep. Sothat that is that is my that is
my met pause experienced in a nutshellor with their kids, uh me at
forty eight years old, but aParamenopausle was like, you know, going
through this every morning at five am, and thought, um, but you
(43:07):
know, the bottom line is Ithought I was going to like I know
what you know, I know kindof you know, from from the second
hand experience, I'm seeing what Momwent through, what Laura was going through,
Like it was like maybe she wasn'tlike she was pregnant. Maybe it
was a horment, but like um, some form like three creat depression.
(43:32):
Yeah yeah, instead of instead ofit being postpartum depression, it's like premidial
depression. Um. But yeah,but but you know in Mom it was
it was it was her menopause,sugar, and Laura it was probably you
know, the the you know,the premia is probably premial depression. Um.
(43:52):
But yeah, so I know,you know, Laura's open in her
car and driving off. That's it'slike, oh my mom did that?
Wait a minute, um, butthat yeah. So it's just it.
That's just me like it like itlike it hit and at the end of
the opera hit me like that.It's not uncommon. Um, but um,
(44:15):
it's just this well and it doesn'tlike you go even even between acts.
It does not let you go.You jump right back into it.
It's like, oh it never itnever left me. Shit, yeah,
um yeah, it's just but itis. It is the It is like
we said that, we said thatChampion and fire Stockline Bones were emotionally exhausting
(44:37):
and emotionally like, um, youknow, it just rextr feelings. This
one, I would say, isworse, Like it really fucking you know
that scene in The Avengers where wherea Hall takes Loki and smashes him and
just because yeah, and it smasheshim back and forth, like flopped him
(44:58):
like a fucking rag on the floor, like it matches them in the floor.
Yeah, that's what The Hours doeswith your emotions. Um, seriously,
that's what The Hours does with youremotions. And I mean, like
you come out you come out ofwatching that, and you know, Jesus
fucking Christ, you know, amI ever, my good? I'm a
rep What the fuck am I gonnado? Now? I don't watch it
(45:19):
when you're don't watch it late atnight like we did. No, if
we if if if whoever, ifit hadn't hacked, we would have been
able to watch it like in theafternoon and we would have had the rest
of the day to recover from it. But no, we watched it late
at night, and we're like,we were like rex to go to bed
as like thanks, you know,but if there's any fuck boy of this
(45:42):
opera, it's the person who whowho hacked the box office and the website.
Yeah, fuck you for fuck youfor for doing that, because we
would have be able to watch it, and we would have talked about it
already and you know, talking abouthow emotionally gut ranching this is. But
well now we're doing it now,so you and then and now you don't
have to wait to watch it becauseit's up on the web. It's up
(46:05):
on the meth website. So youcan watch that, um and be and
be as emotionally emotionally racked as wewere, um, yeah, all the
seriously, and we're not talking aboutlike like noticing and no, we're not
talking like that. We're talking likelike stick and Knie stick and knife andy
(46:25):
and twist it until you're like yeah, like yeah that's what you mean.
I mean, shit, seriously,your your tense like like I noticed,
I was, My body was liketens up the entire opera. It's watching
us like shit, you know II usually am very relaxed and you know,
while I'm watching the opera making atense up during different scenes. But
(46:46):
I was like, I was liketense the entire time. That's how and
that's how invested and that's how that'show much it grabs you. Um,
but that yeah, I would honestly, got honest side highly highly highly recommend
watching US. Um seriously out itbroke my heart. I would definitely watch
(47:10):
it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, um, but that is our and
Kevin Boots I think he said thathe wants to write another opera for the
MAT so I look forward to seeingwhatever what what he did? It?
Couldn't he take? He and TerenceBlansherd are are those those two guys will
just ruin you watching their ship.They will ruin you, and not a
(47:35):
bad way, in a good way, like they will the best way.
They will ruin you in the bestway. So I cannot wait to see
what they had, what they whatthe future holds from them in terms of
what they put, what they bringto the mat um. So you know
that. And judging by judging bythe Hours, Yeah, I highly doubt
(47:55):
that he's gonna put out in fearof Kevin put his good, but put
out in fear of content. Seriously, He's it's gonna be stellar, just
like this was. So that isour review of the Hours, or long
awaited review of the Hours. Um. Next week we are going to watch
Farter at Covent Garden. We're goingto this weekend watch Farter at Covent Garden.
(48:21):
I happened to just the other night. Just breathe through it. Just
different scenes. Yeah, yeah,we're we gonna have to watch this because
then I because we because we bothwatched Jonas. Yeah, we watched Jonis
in the same production, not necessarilythe same place, because Yonis made his
(48:42):
world debut in the same production andben Waha version uh in Paris in twenty
and ten, and this was fromtwenty and sixteen with Auntie Joyce and uh
and Victoria Crogolo. So uh yeah, this is going to be this and
and we'll be able to not onlytalk about what we thought of we thought
of their performances, but we're gonnabe able to make a comparison between illnesses
(49:05):
uh portrayal of Farner compared to VictoriaGoogolos, because I see two very very
different uh styles of how they seeof how these guys see Farner, you
know, like like two vastly liketwo sides of the same point. Let's
just say um, but that's gonnabe for next week. So as always,
(49:28):
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Hello one, and welcome to ourlate late and welcome to a late in
the week episode of the Opera TrashPodcast. I am Krista and I am
Anna and uh yeah this this wegot side tracked because of course this past
weekend was not only it was theconsistor be and we also got caught up
(00:23):
in the in the uh the Helleeluethat was the coreation of King Charles third
Um. Happy side Day, Yeah, Happy side chick Day. Prince Louis
or Prince Louis just look like youdidn't have one single solitary fuck to give
of him. Yeah. People werelike, what's a lot of good for
(00:46):
I'm like me, this means thatyoungest one is excellent. For means I've
loved him. I love That's whatcares. Not a single fig. No,
what was it? I watched itwas it Monday, I said,
I saw clips of of of theof Cayton, William, Catherine and William
(01:10):
with the kids. They were itwas like the big it was like a
big day out or something like that, the Big Hell Day or something like
that. Whatever. It was likebecause there's a bank holiday on the Monday
and they were doing volunteering at thisone place, and and Louis they had
him like trying to put dirt ina will barrel. Oh yeah, he
was like not giving a ship howhe did it. No, I'm just
gonna do this my own way.And it's all over the place. Oh
(01:32):
yeah. And then of course,um and of course he was like he
was yeah, he was, Yeah, you don't want to have a five
room messing around with paint, andyet they did that. He's like walking
around paint on his hands because theyhad like he did like a handprint on
the wall and he's walking around like, yeah, like and where I put
on my handprints? Yeah? Everywhere? Yeah, all the handprints were suckers
(02:00):
like. And then they had likethe three kids were doing like archery,
okay it with like weapon down.Oh god was glorious. I'm reerly.
My mom was like, oh,well he's five now, maybe he'll behave
himself a little bit more. AndI'm like that hold when Harry out a
window, like, I sincerely fuckingdown, that child will be Look,
(02:30):
I don't think he'll cost too muchof a ruckus, but he's definitely he
does not yet. Yeah, helike I can tell that Catherine is a
like cracks down on them. SheI see her like in pictures, like
bending down in her stiletters to school. Yeah, to scoold them when they
were when they were at a line. But yeah, yeah, there's no
(02:53):
way that child will ever have asingle solitary again. But I don't think
no, no, So go thosetwo principles to Prince Louis of Wales.
We love him, We love thatkid. Yes, um And it was
what was it? I saw itin TikTok somebody had somebody had recorded like
when Queen Camilla comes in the intothe to the choir in the in the
(03:17):
church, and the choir scenes vibead to Regina Camilla. They're like the
person post is that who posted?Like the coaption it sounds that, it
sounds this is what it sounds like. I like Vagina Camilla. Well,
isn't that what Charles said to her? Don't we remember? We don't?
(03:42):
We do remember champun Gate, don'twe we try to forget that? Yeah,
we do play place. Don't googletampon Gate if you if you named
Brussel Howard, that got me intoand on his UM one special, he
(04:03):
sang a song about the igs tuneof God Save the King and it went
and those are a quarter of yearsand years ago, so quinl was.
But the second was a live andit went and I sang it like after
all the times they played God Savedthe King, Um I was. I
finally just snapped and started singing it. Yeah, because I hate they talked
about it, moming lost it.The song goes and I quote God Saved
(04:29):
mar Ahs. It really is thebest. Liz will be fine. Hell
those and party keep kids himself hungfor me. Give Donald trumpa la barto
me EII when he sings it.Yeah, I sang in mom cut lost
(04:58):
her ship, laughing. Okay,let I'm gonna look at I'm not gonna
play it, but we'll look atand find it. Oh no, you
know what. I'm gonna play itscared. Let's see scure, I'm gonna
find it. I mean for gorandamshow. Yeah, really you see?
Uh, God Save the na dashere we go. Oh my god?
(05:25):
How's this for a new naturally anthem? The English National anthem as some sad
song in the world. We're English. We love singing it, but we
don't believe in bods. We knowshe's safe and you've seen it time magic
man in the club. Look,God, lady, what safe? Why
have we not evil time for thiscountry? Three cannibany. We need a
(05:46):
new anthem that can bring everyone together. I want to hear this Wembley God
Save Chess verse. I can't,but that's not the entire thing. Wait
(06:11):
a bite, Yeah, that's notthe entire thing. Hold on, but
if I can, let me,let me message it. Oh wait,
wait it's Affe versions. Don't youmight sh I have a lunch maybe some
(06:36):
chance? The cold Ray spongebab thetea monkey calls, oh did you find
(07:01):
it? No? I didn't findout. Why you always stay here?
You know what? I'm just gonnamessage shouldn't and be like, shouldn't you
have the fool God save our NHS? Clip? But yeah, that was
too short of a clip. MIt's on his special Recalibrate which is on
(07:30):
Netflix, and I highly recommend itwatching it in full because it is fucking
hilarious. Okay ooh hell is itIM saying do you have the fool God
save already chess? Crystal wants it. I may or may not have sang
(07:51):
it on our podcast. Oh hereally, Crystal Howard recalibrating. Yeah.
Uh, god sink we know that. I mean you no, that's part
of it. That's part of it. Well, that's part of the whole
(08:11):
thing. But that's not where Okay, okay, oh yeah, it's one
of the best things. Let's see. Oh, let's see. Yeah,
(08:37):
this is awesome. Yeah, thisis this is us looking at it,
looking up, start looking up thegod. That's hilarious. This will be
fine Ei ei I love that.Okay, good Lord. But while she's
(09:03):
looking that up, Uh, thereis really not much. Yeah, there
is really not much news to go. If you get you can tell uh
the onody else is getting a mostinfra sexual harassion. But surprisingly it's not
plaster. Yeah it isn't. Uh. Let really, um let's see now
the Berlatin Field Harmonic did uh releaseit's um It's twenty three twenty season.
(09:30):
And of course the reason I mentionedit is because from last year, uh
yonis did you know a series threeconcerts? Uh for New Year's um,
let's see yoonas coffin Rings of theNew Year with feet with what that can't
pronounce all same, but it's tosay it's the lady who was the zigland
to his Zigland uh In uh InNaples and Derek Zappinfeld Zepperinfeld is al still
(09:54):
going to be there for a concertof works by Wagner. So it's gonna
be a vader evening to bring inthe new year with Korea drank out so
um girl fashion Bob, yes,good lord. Yeah. The best part
(10:16):
of get is insist in your captain. Yeah, that's pretty much the only
thing. Oh and by the way, speaking of the coordination, Uh,
if you didn't if you didn't watchit, find it good like Ica BBC
(10:37):
News and yeah, um and uhand um. Pretty sang at it as
well as so very terribul he sanghe signed the curiate in Welsh, sang
the curiate in Welsh and also conductingthe orchestra for the coordination was our very
(11:00):
sir Anthony M. Yeah. Yeah, pretty under started to sing and Mom's
like, oh, like, Iknow that, but I think that's pretty
yay. I've seen her. I'veseen the productions or production of Melicier to
more so damn any time. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way,
(11:20):
the the the Astro della pro romathey are going to have they are gonna
show the um h, They're notgonna show the Uh, they're not gonna
show the good version, um,the good version of them Butterfly, it's
gonna be the oppera Australia co production. Um, it's a new production code,
(11:41):
it's a new stagtion with it,which is a co production with Opera
Australia. Um, yeah, it'sit's gonna be it's gonna be new.
I thought it was the picture thatthey show. It's a little deceiving because
it's the met Opera staging. Uh, their beloved Anthony and Della production.
But Elinor or Barado is going tobe. Uh, it's gonna play on
as to see, and let's seewith Dmitro Papa's Pinkerton, Adam Buria Cheri
(12:05):
as Suzuki and Roberto Frontale as Sharplessand Roberto Aboto will conduct a cat will
conduct the cast. But I thoughtthat was interesting. I thought at first
it was oh, the anthem Yngelaversion is on. It's a bright new
production. Um, let's see.That's pretty much it. And in terms
of news, a lot of justman, you know, just oh um
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oh yeah yeah wait wait, letme find her, let me find her.
Yeah, she was a she wasa very there was a we we
didn't want to do a deucation.Let me find her here, I don't
forgot about that. Let's see here, Yeah, let me find her.
Yeah, Chris bumb she uh.This is a legendary and trail blazing met
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soprano. Grace Bumbry has passed awayat the eighty passed away of May seventh
in vi end of Austria. Recently, she suffered in acute estemic stroke football
fall and was hospitalized. Bumber wasa member of a pioneering generation of African
America opera and African American opera andclassical singers in the worlds of opera and
classical music and help help pave theway for teuture generations of African American opera
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and concert singers. She was alsoa seer with a wide range that Nulli's
saying mesa roles, but also performednews soprano roles with great success. Um,
let's see, let's see she oh, this is. Her father was
a rail importer. Her mother wasa school teacher. She graduated from the
prestigious Charleston Their High School, thefirst black high school west of the Mississippi.
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Her voice teacher, Kenneth Phillips praisedher for her vocal prowess and urged
her to enter a teen talent contestsponsored by Statelierwis radio station KMOX. She
would win the contest, which includeda one thousand dollars ward on a trip
to New York and the scholarship tothe Sailoris Institute of Music. However,
the institute not accept her because shewas black. However, the concert promoters
arrange that she appeared on author guardArthur Bodfrey's nationally televised Talent Scouts program,
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singing a Verity's Opera Verities Area odinFatale. That performance allowed her to a
Boston University College of Fine Arts,and she later transferred to north Western Bumbara
would later it would study with LastedLayman at the Music Academy of the West
in San Barbara and in nineteen fiftyeight one the Metropolitan Opera National Council Auditions.
Her operatic debut came in nineteen sixtyat Naires and at the Paris Opera
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at the age of twenty four.International recognition when she's saying as Venus and
Tanhoiser at Barboy and because the firstblack singer who appear at the Fame Festival.
Yeah, she received a thirty minuteovation for her Yeah. She received
a thirty minute ovation for her performancethere, including forty two curtain calls,
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fuck you, Wagner, so good, Bangner, Okay, Wagner Um.
That performance led her to the WhiteHouse at the invination of Dapplin Kenedy.
She would return to An in eighteeneighty one to sing at Ronald Brain's denegration.
Brumbery went onto debut at every majoropera house, including the Royal Opera
House in nineteen sixty three, Loscalain nineteen sixty four and in the Mean
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in nineteen sixty four, and theMat and Matt in nineteen sixty five.
In the seven in the seventies,Bumber made her debuts soprano, singing the
role of Zalame in nineteen seventy atSetup in Barton, and later debuted the
title of Tuska at the Met.Her repertoire included Princess Ebili in Don Carlo,
These Days, Carmen, Lady Macbethin Verduce McBeth, Bellini's Norma,
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Abigail and Verdues Mbuko, Laura Dornoand Lejaconda, and the title role of
Tosca she took. She also tooka rail roles such Ziona Chiufa, Lucas
arian at arian A Barbleu and andZelika in Myerba for keen A noticed soprano
rules in her career have included shemen listed Elizabeth in Hanhuiser and Leonora and
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both Eltervatory and La Force Destino andamong others, nay Um in n teen
I. She found it and touredwith the Grace Bumbree Black Musli Heritage Ensemble,
a group to vote two preserve andperforming traditional Negro churchles. She also
devoted herself to teaching and judging internationalcompetitions into the concert stage. In twenty
ten, after an absence of manyyears on from the opera stage, she
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performed in Scott John's Truman Trumanisia atthe Chatais in Paris, and twenty and
thirteen she returned to de Lan asthe count Is in checov Sees the Queen
of Spades Uh. She went onto a meny awards, including being adducted
into the Saint Lotis Walk of Fameand was episode with Eudesco Award, the
Distinguished Alumna Award from the Academy Musicof the West, Italy's Premio gies Up
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be very U and she was alsonamed committed common dude is Electa by the
French she received agreem she received.She received a Grammy Award in n eighteen
seventy two for Best Opera Recording.On December sixteen nine, she was among
those honored with the two thousand nineKennedy Center Honors. On December fifth,
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twenty twenty one, she made tributeto her friend just Usino Diaz, who
was one of the five people beinghonored that night for the twenty one twenty
one County Center Honors. In twentytwenty, Recision Award in Martina Franca,
becoming the first African American to beto be recognized with the award. Premio
or Dolpho Cheletti Barbaria left him legendary. Discovera includes recordings of Carmen Norma,
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Don Carlo, I Got La Forza, Deltas to Do and Carmen Jones Yeah
So Yeah, let us dedicated tothis episode to Grace Bumbree, trailblazing badass
woman who who couldn't get into thecouldn't get into a into Lewis but bought
in but got her but succeeded elsewhereand yeah and in abundance. So yeah,
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may her memory be for a personyep, make your yeah, and
yeah, fuck your counse founder,and may her memory be a blessing may
the eternal. Oh my god,that is wonderful. Um. So yeah,
that's I think. And I thinkif if this had been if this
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had been a role, if inthis, if this opera we're gonna talk
about to say, if this hadbeen a role that she would have been
that she would have been available beforeshe probably would have saying it. I
think she would have. All right, So let us get to and that
and that aufers that we were talkingabout, because we were gonna talk about
uh, we were gonna watch uhum yeah, yeah, we were gonna
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yeah, we were gonna talk aboutthat. We were gonna watch that,
but we were gonna watch with verTerror. But were we watched hard.
We werena watch him, but Ifound on the Met's website the hours if
you remember, backpay December. Um, we were all set to watch that
on the Live at home yeah,because they because that was like the second
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that would have been the second onethat watched after Medeia. Um but the
yeah, but some at pat hackedthe Mets website in their box office and
we couldn't watch it. Yeah yeah, and if you remember the box office
even it was hacked to the pointwhere uh if an f at Hall had
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to had to just stepped in andsaid, hey, if anybody needs tickets
to a performance, we'll we'll we'llprocess the tickets for them. Follow down,
we'll process the tickets for them.So so it took a while,
but it came but they came back. But in the meantime, like I
HI already purchased my ticket for thehours, it had been refunded. So
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so that made me mad that he'slike, god damn it, I wanted
to watch that, so I've Soit took five months for us for that's
come in to come around. Butit's now on that on demand. So
if you whether you can have aseven when you do the seven day trial
or you purchase it like to runit, you can you can now watch
the hours and let me fucking tellyou, watch the goddamn thing. Yes,
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that's all we're gonna tell you forright now, watch the god damn
thing. We'll get into it.So. Um, So I'm going to
go ahead and read these roles umbecause there are quite a few of them.
But let me go ahead read these. Um. So the roles are
as follows. And I sent youthat I sent you the outline. Um.
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Okay, So the roles are asfollows. Clarissa Vaughan book editor,
who is the surprio Virginia Wolf.And is this the cast? By the
way, I'm gonna read the castas well, because this was the premier
cast because it made its premiere atthe mat Um Clursiva book editor who was
played by Renee Flying Virginia Wolf,novelist of Missus Dollaway who was played by
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Joystano, who's a metsto. LaraBrown housewife and mother who was played by
Kelli O'Hara. Richard Clares's friend,baritone played Kettleson uh Sally Claris's partner who's
played by mezzo sop James Graves.Richie Laura's son played by way soprano Kai
Edgar. He was he was uhlet Wolf, Virginia's husband who was played
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by Tennor Sean Panakar. Dan BrownMoore's husband played by bass Barton Brendan Sadel,
Louis Richards former lever who was playedby tender William Burton Walter writer Averman's
novels, played by tender Chodi Stephenson. Barbara Forrest who was played by Kathleen
Soprano Kathleen kim She if you rememberuh in Tales of Hoffman, she was
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Olympia H. Kennedy. Laura's dabwho is a soprano is Sylvia Derremo.
The man under the arch who wasa Who's count tenor John Holiday, Nellie
Virginia and Leonard's cult who was amissus soprano Eva Gelotti. Uh yeah,
and um Vanessa Virginia's sister who issoprano? Who who was against Sylvia Derrimo?
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I hope the hotel clerk was Johnhalliway missus latch what Richie's babysitter was
Katherine Camp Uh. There and thereare three There are three children, Julian
Kaunton and Angelica Finessed his children playedby a s where Patrick Scott McDermott and
Lena jos being Ranto. And thenthere's uh. There are a couple of
dancers. There's Missus Delaway. Thetitle character of Virginia's nol and Septimus Warren
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Smith another character, and Missus Dalloway, and then there's chorus and dancers.
Okay, and of course, bythe way, the conductor was our precious
campositum role. Okay, all right, go ahead and reads the composition narre
story. It was written by KevinePutts with a lobroto by Greg Pearce.
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It's based on the book The Hoursby Michael Kinnaham and the movie version which
was written by David character by StephenDaldry. And they did remember twenty second
twenty twenty two at the Met.According to Christa, the punk fact is,
the idea for this all came fromKevin Potts and Nie Dummings. Yeah,
they were cording Tournie flamming. Theythey have been talking and one and
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uh Renny got the idea of theywere they were thrown around different ideas for
operas and this this came and thiswould an opera, This would be a
good opera and hec yeah, hedid the thing. Yeah, so let
me go ahead and read. Uh, now this is this is an operate
in two acts. So uh.The performance history is The Hours was first
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performed on March eighteenth point twenty two, in a preview concert presentation at the
Kimmel Center by the Philadelphia Orchestra underconductor cambracoas sediment role the singers including everybody
knows who does uh? Everybody knowsYeah, Everybody's Richie, everybody knows couva
uh. The singers included Renee Flemingas Clarissa, Jeffer Johnson Kno as Virginia
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Wolf, Callie Hara as Lauren Brown, Brett Polagon, Coladado as Richard,
Yums, mccorkill as Letter Wolf,Defra and Steele as Sally, and Brendan
Settle as Dan Nan, who wasalso music to recommend conduct of the stage
premiere at that Coope's House on devepertwenty second, twenty twenty two, in
a production by Fellow McDermott. Ifyou remember who Fella McDermott is, he's
the guy who did the staging forboth Aknat and satikaha Um. The set
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and costume designer was Tom High,and the choreographers and B Parston. According
to Jeff London, writing for NPR, the course of dancers are constantly on
stage, helping to underline the centralcharacter emotional states. The company performs the
opera eight times. As part oftheir twenty twenty three season. The opera
was boadcast on their on met Operadioon series XM video streamed at met Opera
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dot Org. That is actually nottrue. The performance of Tennis Cember was
videocast to maybe theaterists parts of theMetropolitan Live an HD series, and it
was telecast on March March seventeenth byPDS. Is part of the Great Performances
at the Met series. So that'swhy it's now on on demand. All
right, So let me get intothe synopsis. This is the story is
about a single day in the livesof three women. Book editor Club Vaughan
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in New York's West Village in eighteeneighty nine, novelist Genia Wolf in Richmond,
England in eighteen twenty three, andhousewife and mother Laura Brown in Los
Angeles in eighteen twenty nine. Allright, so Act one says the chorus
sings fragments of the opening of Virginia'snovels and Missus Dollaway the working title,
which was the Hours Missus Dollaway saidshe would buy the flourish herself Clarissa and
her partner Sally, are preparing herpartment for party in honor of Clariss's best
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friend, Richard, who later thatdays tended to receive an award which recently
published novel. Richard is seriously ohwith aids, and Sally questions whether he'll
be able to come. Clarissa insistshe will be able to attend. Lorisa
goes without by Flowers any Boy's shop. On her way, she passed through
Washington Square knows is the unusual singingof a man under the arch. By
chance, she encounters Walter, thewriter of ge Erman Says, who knows
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Richard and who she invites the party. Walter also expresses doubt that Richard is
well enough to atend the party.In her house in the London blooded summer
of Richmond, Virginia has awakened andentered her office, anxious to begin her
new new novel. Her husband,Leonard, a proof editor, is concerned
about her health and tries to gether to eat some breakfast, but she
refuses. She considers the many roleshe plays her life. Clarissette arrives at
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the Flowers Shot and the floriss Barbarakisses her on the mouth. Clarissa Briteing
imagines what would be like if Barbaraand she were lovers and they would never
need to leave the job. Shefinds the flowers she wants and departs for
Richard's department. In her office,Virginia finds it difficult to begin her novel.
Thinks of central London and its manydiversions so different from her drap existence
in the suburban Richmond. Overcoming herhesitation, she starts to write. In
Los Angeles. In her bed,Laura Brown is reading the same lines from
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Missus Dallaway. She feels guilty thatshe's avoiding her Dude's his wife and mother.
Although it is her Dan hunting Dan'sbirthday and he and their six year
old son, Richie are waiting forher in the kitchen. She resumes reading.
Eventually she goes down to the kitchen. Brire, Dana Ritchie express worries
for about her dan leashed work.Clarissaber considers whether her relationship of almost eighteen
years for Sally is filling enough.Virginia cannot decide which of the characters in
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her novel will die. Laura allowsRichie to help her bake Dan's birthday cake,
even though Richie will surely spoil it, and feels even her efforts are
inadequate. Clara stops on the streeton Lady Richards and remembers the time she
casually broke off the romantic relationship withsimple, thoughtless words. She wonders what
they had been had if she hadnot done so. She edgues Hitch's heartment
to remind him of the party,but finds him weak and forgetful. He
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calls her missus Daladwise's. Her firstname is the same as the novel's being
director. She dislikes the nickname becauseit's because it is such a tragic story.
He says he is unable to attendthe party, but Clarissa approaches him
for not making more of an effort. He confesses he still physicizes about whether
they could have been lovers. Clarissasays she needs to leave and return to
her heart apartment put the flowers inwater so they will not wilt. In
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her kitchen, Laura is unhappy withthe progress of the King. Virginia asked
her Cooknelly about whether whether young girlwho started the day happy could decide commune
suicide. He says if the girlbecame despairing, it was possible. Virginia
engages a suicidal fantasy for seeing herdeath. Kitty unexpectedly visits Laura. The
doctor has told her she just agrowth inside her and needs to have to
look at it can more feed herjob. Laura is sorry for Kitty,
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feels tenderness for her and holds her. They touched the lips together, but
after a moment, Kitty pulls away. Virginia, who has become anxious,
stops writing and goes outdoors. Clarissaenters her apartment. Sally is thinking about
how's her brains the chairs. Clarissa, worried about Richard, decided to go
back to see him. Virginia wantedto escape Richmond considers whether to take the
train to London or round herself inthe river. Laura's feeling in sightful the
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home, takes Richard to Vicius lastand miss Lass there's hicitor and drives towards
Pasadena with no plan. In Acttwo, Laura enters the room at the
Normandy Hotels, their tattered copy ofMissus Dallaway and a bottle of bills she
calls as art. Encounter with thehotel clerk. While reading Missus Dalloways,
she imagines Virginia heading to the Rugurdto kill herself. Laura considers suicide.
Virginia, distracted by the voice ofthe man offer of the arch, is
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found by Leonard, who expresses hisfair finding her dad having to tell her
sister Vanessa of his failure to saveher, Virginia is deserved by the intensity.
Is distressed on her way to RichardsClosely Here's a Quire, seeing lyric
exceedingly directed at her. In frontof Richard's building, she encounters Lewis and
Richards from her boyman, who can'tstop whether to visit him. Lewiser calls
heard the three of them are lovelywhen he was shut up by their closeness,
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Richard wanting him only for his body, but wanting Clarissa for everything else.
In her office, Virginia hears childrentalking and wondering is she's going crazy.
In her garden, she finds hersister and send her three children,
Julian Quenton and Angelica Quarantina is nota sick word, which she thinks is
still alive. They decided to makea bed of grass root to die in
Virginia identifies the birdis female because itis a bit more draft than the males.
She begins making the bed for thebird, adding roses picked from the
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garden. She realizes that the birdis dead and begins for nigely making the
bed, accidentally pricking Angelica's finger witha thornton. Vanessa and her children retreat,
realizing the severity of Virginia's illness,Laura and her hood and rebukes herself
for things to her side, andshe has a young son and her baby
on the way to take care of. She decides to remain alive and return
to her her obligations as a mother. Claire still lets herself into Richard's aparden
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and find someone wouldn't have still andlearned sell five stories above the ground.
She attempts to persuade him to comeback inside. He said he only wanted
to write something good, not great, something that would touch someone. He
tells her he loves her, slidesoff the stew and falls outside. Claire
the hesitant, leapers out the oneand realizes he is dead. Clarissa appears
on the street and bends over Richard'slifeless body. The of course can be
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heard repeating and reassembling words and thoughtsfrom the day. Laura leaves the hotel,
Virginia realizes that she's losing her mind. Laura x Rishi up from the
citter and he tells her he wasscared because he thought, like Katie,
she had something growing inside her.At their dining table, Virginia express his
gratitude to Leonard for having given herthe greatest possible happiness. Dan returns home
just birthday party and it tells usfamily how happy they have made him.
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At Sally clarissas the party has becomeawake, Richard's mother Laura arrives and realizes
interviews she abandoned Dan and Richie andfeels your crime because the three family you
know, protagonists Laura Thurs and Virginia'sSecuria, realizing that if in their connection
to one another across different kinds ofplaces, they are not of them.
Okay, can I tell you fromthe outset as we're watching, thus it
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hits you like yeah, there,it's like it's like a champion. It
builds like champion it was, itwould build, it would get Yeah,
it took a while her to buildup and just you know, look like
like hits you Okay, this hitsyou from the get go. Yeah,
and and it just gets more andmore intense as it goes on. Um
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Anna point out at the end whenthey're sitting when Virginia and then he actually
at the table Virginia is sitting,is singing the lyrics, the lyrics as
she's singing or from her suicide note. Yep, they quoted her suicide note
which I actually pull up they'd noticed. My only complaint is they cut they
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didn't. They didn't use your truthsfinal line that they did from the movie
in the book, Um, andit will make more. And what he
says is before he jumps out thewindow, he says to her, he
says to Clarissa, I don't thinkanyone me hold on, I'm trying to
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I don't think people could have beenhappier than we have been. Yeah,
and then he jumps yea he quoteand it was just so so. But
honestly, the way they changed it, I didn't think it could be made
any sadder or more heartwrenching, butthey managed it. Yeah, but this
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was um Virginia Wolves note they actuallyuse this in the movie to quet him
in. Wolf narrated that while she'swriting it, Dearest, I feel certain
that I'm going mad again. Ifeel we can't go through another of those
terrible times, and I shouldn't recarrethis time. I begin to hear voices,
and I can't concentrate. So I'mdoing what seems the best thing to
do. You've given me the greatestpossible happiness. You have been in every
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way all that anyone could be.I don't think two people could have been
happier until this terrible disease came.I can't find it any longer. I
know that I'm sparing your life,that without me you could work, and
you will. I know you see. I can't even work this properly.
I can't read. What I wantto say is all the happliness of my
life to you. You have beenentirely patient with me and incredibly good.
I want to say that everybody knowsthat if anybody could have saved me,
it would have been new. Everyonehas gone from everything has gone for me,
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but the third hero goodness. Ican't go and spoiling you're like any
longer. I don't think people couldhave been happier than we have been.
FEET say that, I because becauseat one point in the in their in
their interactions, she says, I'mspoiling your life. It's like, yeah,
but oh my god. Another thingthat they cut from the ending that
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actually would have made it even moreum awful. M Um at the end,
when they revealed finally that Laura BrownChidred's mother, she um at the
end mentions that um dan Um diedof alcoholism and the baby that she was
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pregnant with, the daughter, letit be daughter, and that she died
in a car accident. Yeah,they don't mention that. Yeah, so
they don't mention any in the movie. Yeah, in the opera. I
do believe they mentioned it in inthe movie. Yeah, but but I
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think it's like there's that's like whenyou watch it and when you watch the
movie version, there's that tension inthe build up, you know, especially
when you see Clarissa and Richard,there's that tension to build and I will
maintain until the day I fucking die. That Ed Harris got robbed at the
Oscars that year. He did heplayed Richard and robbed. Oh yeah he
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did. And yeah, there thatthat tension between him and Meryl Streep in
that scene, and that in thescene and and you get that it's like
amplified with the music and with thesinging between Kyle Kentleman and uh and Rinick
Fleming, it is amplified. Soyou are holding your breath because if you're
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if you're familiar with the story,you know what's going to happen. But
to hold your breath thinking, ohgod, you know, I think,
you know, wondering when when it'sgoing to happen, and then it does,
and and it's like, oh shit, you know um and to know
that, like and it's it hitsyou so hard, like the like that
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part Laura's like what Laura goes throughand get the end when she says that
she left Dan and Ritchie and thenuh, and then to know that even
with that, you know, withwith with that little snippet of of um
Verninia Wolf's life, that you knowwhat happened shortly after that, Uh yeah,
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you're You're just It's another emotionally wreckingopera. It is. I sobbed
I can do. I've read thebook multiple times and I've seen the movie
and I just I had to callmy mother after you were done. It
was after midnight, and I said, my mom, are you still awake,
I have a doll. Oh mygod. It was like, I'm
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not okay, So what did wedo? Compress? So we watch compress.
We watched the video for Tom Carter'ssong how do you checked your both
hole? Yeah, that's a goodpellet glaser right there, U, but
no, seriously if it's n God, and what Richard says, yeah before
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he jumps about you know, okay, so it makes a better but what
about the hours after that? Andafter that and after that? Mhm.
It finally as an adult, um, my dad, those of you who
are regular listeners, no, mydad's no or alive. He died of
lung cancer when I was nineteen,and I found out a few years after
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that. Mom was honest with meand had said that, you know,
Dad that even though the twombers andevery came, we're shrinking, chemo had
worked and they were talking about radiation. The Dad said, no, I
don't want to do it anymore.And it took me until watching the Hours
and hearing Richard that Richard's last areato finally understand exactly why Dad made that
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choice, because it was making thechemo was getting rid of the cancer,
but everything else was making him sick. Yeah, and if this was like
nineteen and nine, then whatever,Well, I mean, we know the
cops aren't all that good now keepingpeople from having side effects and stuff.
But back in ninety nine, holyshit. So it it different? Is
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but I understood finally, Yeah,and that made it hit possibly even harder.
Yeah, if that's possible. Andthen just when I had gotten myself
calmed down, the final three yearof happen and I saw, yeah,
yeah, it's like this is what. It grabs your heart and twists it.
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Yeah. And it does that.Yeah, it does that from the
very beginning. It grabs your heartbecause because like because like the whole thing
is like I don't know if Richard'sgonna be well enough to come to party.
Oh he's going to be, soyou already know. Yeah, there's
a big chance that he's not gonnamake it. But how he's not gonna
make it is Yeah. If ifyou're not if you're not familiar with the
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storyline, you know, you're like, oh, how is it? What
do you mean? He may notmake it? But how is so?
How is he not gonna make it? Grabs your heart? Then there's Virginia,
who is who you know is suffering, you can tell. And she
and she's bad. She's trying towork through it and um and trust me,
yeah, like Anna and I bothknow we we are you know,
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we battled metal llists. We knowhow that is. You know that feeling
like suffocate, the suffocating doing Yeah, and so so to see that and
Joyce and kudos to all three ofthese women. Joycey's not a Rayfleming and
Kali Era like Joyce did not knowinarticular because there's not because she got into
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she got into that character she thatwas amazing. Um and and just she
she ran with it. But youknow, just to see and to know
how badly she how badly, howbad it was with her and and that
her and that Leonards stood by herand it was trying to help her in
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any way he could, in anyevery way he could. That was you
know that like you start your itstarts to twist your heart and then you
have and then you have Laura whois kind of disengaged from me from like
her her motherly wifely duties. Butuh and and she's like it's like I
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don't know, it's kind of likeyou know, things aren't what they should
things aren't what she thought they wouldbe. I guess and uh, and
she tries to, she tries toto make the best of it. And
at one point and she's just like, I can't do this. I remember,
I'll be honest with you guys.My mom when she hit men a
pause, it it made her crazy. Um she went, she spiraled into
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depression and she had to be puton Zoe lof But at one point,
uh, she for with no warning, she jumped in her car and drove
off and she ended up lost onthe eye Turnmike, so she had to
find her way back home. SoI understand, like, lord, driving
off capacities with no with you know, no, yeah, because that's what
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Mom did the one time. AndI can tell you I can say I
dreaded being the him now because that'saround the time that Mom did that.
That happened to Mom. And I'mlike, I don't want to turn that
age. I don't want to endup. I don't want to end up
losing my mind like my mother whenI when I hit menopause. Thankfully I
have embraced it. I can sithere and make a joke like, oh,
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it's my it's my five o'clock.My five a hot flash, you
know, I I joke about that. My five, My five o'clock hot
flash is here. Um, butthe five all I can think of that
with the boots on five o'clock.Thanks, sorry, not sorry flash,
you know, I'm not sorry.But yeah, yeah, I have that.
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I do like I can't sorry becauseI can't address because it'll trigger hot
flash. I can't, you know, I have. I have to like
underdress when I go to bed becauseif I already, if I get chally,
it's rigger hot flash. Yeah,it's yeah. If I yeah,
(41:57):
seriously, if I if I putlike something on that I'll keep me warm.
At some point in the night,I'll get overheated, and it will
your hot flash, which effortably whatit does too, it triggers. It
triggers the response of oh, youhave to go pee. Seriously, I
got hot flash. I have totake this. It's it's it's bad.
So it's like the metopause version ofPhilbert's comic book reading, get a flash,
(42:22):
take a piss, Yeah, anda flash tis yeah it is.
And so then I forget wash yourhand, yes, and then and then
of course, and then of courseI go back you got to come out
of the bathroom. Out of thebathroom half sleep, I go back to
bed and I lay there until Iuntil my body stopped feeling like it's going
(42:44):
to spontaneously can bust, and Istart feeling cold again. So then I
ever go back to sleep. Sothat that is that is my that is
my met pause experienced in a nutshellor with their kids, uh me at
forty eight years old, but aParamenopausle was like, you know, going
through this every morning at five am, and thought, um, but you
(43:07):
know, the bottom line is Ithought I was going to like I know
what you know, I know kindof you know, from from the second
hand experience, I'm seeing what Momwent through, what Laura was going through,
Like it was like maybe she wasn'tlike she was pregnant. Maybe it
was a horment, but like um, some form like three creat depression.
(43:32):
Yeah yeah, instead of instead ofit being postpartum depression, it's like premidial
depression. Um. But yeah,but but you know in Mom it was
it was it was her menopause,sugar, and Laura it was probably you
know, the the you know,the premia is probably premial depression. Um.
(43:52):
But yeah, so I know,you know, Laura's open in her
car and driving off. That's it'slike, oh my mom did that?
Wait a minute, um, butthat yeah. So it's just it.
That's just me like it like itlike it hit and at the end of
the opera hit me like that.It's not uncommon. Um, but um,
(44:15):
it's just this well and it doesn'tlike you go even even between acts.
It does not let you go.You jump right back into it.
It's like, oh it never itnever left me. Shit, yeah,
um yeah, it's just but itis. It is the It is like
we said that, we said thatChampion and fire Stockline Bones were emotionally exhausting
(44:37):
and emotionally like, um, youknow, it just rextr feelings. This
one, I would say, isworse, Like it really fucking you know
that scene in The Avengers where wherea Hall takes Loki and smashes him and
just because yeah, and it smasheshim back and forth, like flopped him
(44:58):
like a fucking rag on the floor, like it matches them in the floor.
Yeah, that's what The Hours doeswith your emotions. Um, seriously,
that's what The Hours does with youremotions. And I mean, like
you come out you come out ofwatching that, and you know, Jesus
fucking Christ, you know, amI ever, my good? I'm a
rep What the fuck am I gonnado? Now? I don't watch it
(45:19):
when you're don't watch it late atnight like we did. No, if
we if if if whoever, ifit hadn't hacked, we would have been
able to watch it like in theafternoon and we would have had the rest
of the day to recover from it. But no, we watched it late
at night, and we're like,we were like rex to go to bed
as like thanks, you know,but if there's any fuck boy of this
(45:42):
opera, it's the person who whowho hacked the box office and the website.
Yeah, fuck you for fuck youfor for doing that, because we
would have be able to watch it, and we would have talked about it
already and you know, talking abouthow emotionally gut ranching this is. But
well now we're doing it now,so you and then and now you don't
have to wait to watch it becauseit's up on the web. It's up
(46:05):
on the meth website. So youcan watch that, um and be and
be as emotionally emotionally racked as wewere, um, yeah, all the
seriously, and we're not talking aboutlike like noticing and no, we're not
talking like that. We're talking likelike stick and Knie stick and knife andy
(46:25):
and twist it until you're like yeah, like yeah that's what you mean.
I mean, shit, seriously,your your tense like like I noticed,
I was, My body was liketens up the entire opera. It's watching
us like shit, you know II usually am very relaxed and you know,
while I'm watching the opera making atense up during different scenes. But
(46:46):
I was like, I was liketense the entire time. That's how and
that's how invested and that's how that'show much it grabs you. Um,
but that yeah, I would honestly, got honest side highly highly highly recommend
watching US. Um seriously out itbroke my heart. I would definitely watch
(47:10):
it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, um, but that is our and
Kevin Boots I think he said thathe wants to write another opera for the
MAT so I look forward to seeingwhatever what what he did? It?
Couldn't he take? He and TerenceBlansherd are are those those two guys will
just ruin you watching their ship.They will ruin you, and not a
(47:35):
bad way, in a good way, like they will the best way.
They will ruin you in the bestway. So I cannot wait to see
what they had, what they whatthe future holds from them in terms of
what they put, what they bringto the mat um. So you know
that. And judging by judging bythe Hours, Yeah, I highly doubt
(47:55):
that he's gonna put out in fearof Kevin put his good, but put
out in fear of content. Seriously, He's it's gonna be stellar, just
like this was. So that isour review of the Hours, or long
awaited review of the Hours. Um. Next week we are going to watch
Farter at Covent Garden. We're goingto this weekend watch Farter at Covent Garden.
(48:21):
I happened to just the other night. Just breathe through it. Just
different scenes. Yeah, yeah,we're we gonna have to watch this because
then I because we because we bothwatched Jonas. Yeah, we watched Jonis
in the same production, not necessarilythe same place, because Yonis made his
(48:42):
world debut in the same production andben Waha version uh in Paris in twenty
and ten, and this was fromtwenty and sixteen with Auntie Joyce and uh
and Victoria Crogolo. So uh yeah, this is going to be this and
and we'll be able to not onlytalk about what we thought of we thought
of their performances, but we're gonnabe able to make a comparison between illnesses
(49:05):
uh portrayal of Farner compared to VictoriaGoogolos, because I see two very very
different uh styles of how they seeof how these guys see Farner, you
know, like like two vastly liketwo sides of the same point. Let's
just say um, but that's gonnabe for next week. So as always,
(49:28):
guys, we want to thank youso so so so much fortune man.
We love that you guys are orlisten to us. Um uh and
you know, go find us whereveryou have your part, wherever you find
your podcast Apple, Spotify, Iheeart, Um, Stitcher, wherever Amazon,
Amazon Podcasts, U Google Play ofMusic funds there um and uh go
(49:52):
to ourps. Go yeah, buyour shit. This is this is a
tie in, but these next twouh, buy our ships. Support us.
Go to our cheap public page becauseI just put it, just put
the link to our tea public pageon I finally put it up on our
on our Facebook page, and youwill see our our our friend Mandy or
my friend Andy. She got herT shirt the other day, her off
(50:15):
somebody. Yes, there is somebodyactually bottling our shit. I love it.
She got an Opera trash T shirtand she is probably she's probably wearing
it. So be like Mandy andbuy some shit from from our tea public
stort. She again as always,if your person who oft the bitch was
on your T shirt, please letus know. Yeah, come on,
(50:37):
guys, we need to know whobought the bitch was on your shirt.
If you know who bought it,if you did he bought it, or
you know who bought it. Tellus this is gonna this is gonna bug
us till the day we die.So come on, tell us who bought
this bitch? Even Mandy wants toknow, but she she mentioned that the
other day. She says, Ithought, I want to know who bought
(50:57):
this. Oh my god, it'slike the biggest mystery out there, who
bought this obscure T shirt? Um, but yeah, it's just just uh
yeah. The the money that youthe money that you spend on our ship
will go to uh to go toI hopefully it won't use but to bail
(51:19):
bail my trip is two months away. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
that's trying to record about that.Well, let's say i'd be recording at
nine o'clock at night, you'd beif we did it at three Eastern like
we usually do, that'd be ninelike you know, be trips about you,
(51:42):
um coming for the future. Yeah, turn you alive from the future
from some random jail cell in.They gave me one phone call and I'll
use it for this. Yeah.God, but yeah, that that's uh,
(52:09):
yeah, we're gon. We'll haveto think of something to do that
we had to record to talk about. Probably I'll probably talk about Yeah,
we'll gotta I gotta everybody report andof course the recital I talked about,
you know about um the recital ofcourse um and uh and I will not
of course if I of course,if there is an encounter with you and
(52:32):
this, I will tell you allabout that, but uh, I won't
go into I won't go into hotand head details if there are any Lady
never tells telling me everything, youknow it, Yeah, a lady ever
tells it. I always tells yourbest friend, get me best friend.
(52:52):
Yeah. Yeah that so so uhto mark your calendars for, like,
is it's gonna be to live thirtiethweekend to last point eight thirtieth. I
will feel like sometimes sometimes that thatweekend and we'll be recording our podcasts uh
(53:13):
live from Live from from Pennsylvania inGermany, UM five from Pennsylvania and Break
Break and Hotel Me Break um.UM. So, so don't forget guys.
Next week we're gonna talk about we'regonna talk about Foreigner again and uh
because we just can't get off ofthe King of the of the emails.
(53:35):
Um. But until then, guys, stay drafting. We love you.
We'll talk to you guys next week. By
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