Invisible Soprano 3: She's a Soprano and She's Digging a Hole

Oh, the saga continues... this time, Angela Gheorghiu gave an interview in which she outright LIES about the Korea Incident and about the VIenna Incident. Did we mention that she also lies about Jonas? Yeah, she went there. This will not stand, and Krista and Anna (mostly Krista) give her the Brandy Rhodes Treatment.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, welcome everybody to another episode of your beloved
Opera Trash Podcast. I am Chris aka pissed off, and
I am Anna aka. I have not had enough caffeine. Okay, yeah,

(00:22):
I've been. There's not enough caffeine in the world at
the moment I've been. I was over cafinated. I woke
up this morning. I'm like, you're an over caffeinated I'm
under caffeinated. That's unusual. Now. I woke up like yesterday,
I was not feeling well at all, Like that was
like my second day of having massive horrible hot flashes,

(00:45):
like I had one Friday during work and I like
to the point where I felt nauseous and I wanted
to lay down, and that is rare. Like in the
like three years since I had been diagnosed as perimidtal puzzle,
I had never had a hot flash like that. Might

(01:08):
have always been very mild and very intermittent, And yesterday
it hit me as I was sitting there, like I
walked out. I I like, I was I walked out
of my room because it's normally cold, and I'm like, yeah,
I woke up and I woke up, and I'm like,
why is my room so warm. I walk out into
the and walk out into the apartment, I'm like, why

(01:30):
does it feel like it's a thousand degrees in here?
I put you know, I get dressed and everything. I'm
sitting there at my death sweating, and I felt nauseous
and like really really like I really need to lay down,
but I'm on the phone's right now, but like I'm
temporarily working the phones uh in call center and and late,

(01:53):
so I couldn't lay down, And thankfully I got over it,
but I was really tired on front. Well then yesterday
same thing hit me, not as bad, but I was
still but I still had that that that fatigue all day.
So that explains why yesterday I fell asleep during Crown Jewel.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
She was snoring on our voys chat and I kept
shouting random ship to try to wake her up.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, unlike with her trying to wake me up during
the anniversary recording. It worked. Yeah. Yeah, it just beems
I'm a loud ass bitch. She counting Rod, I'm like,
oh god, I completely missed. I completely missed seth Rawlins

(02:49):
beating uh Bronston. I was real mad, I said, mad,
But at least you were awake to see Adam Pierce
get arcadoed. But I was. I was awake to see that. Like,
those are one of the most beautiful things I've ever
seen in my life. And I say that as someone
who likes Adam Pierce. I just I just want to
see everyone get Arkao. To be honest, I.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Want to see Markao, pat mcabee. I would love to
see Marco Wade Barrett. That'd be beautiful, just because I'm so
sick of listening to Wade Barrett ride Dominic Mysterios Dick
every Monday.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, Like he's not that cool.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Look, he doesn't even have have a molecule of the
charisma that Eddie Eddie Gerrero did and Stoff trying to
make Dominic as Eddie happen.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's not going to happen. Yeah, stop making it has
a better chance of happening, Yeah, there's a better chance.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Miranda dressed as Dominic Mysterio for Halloween looked more like
he could be Eddie Garrera's kid than Dominic Mysterio.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, absolutely, kudos to I will say curdos.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
To Dominic Mysteria for playing along with that, because his
reaction was really funny.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, kudos to kudos to lend Manuel Miranda for doing that.
That was great. Yeah. Okay, so let's see. But I
feeling Yeah, now I'm feeling better right now, thank thank god.
I am. Like I woke up this morning not feeling

(04:19):
hot and sweaty and gross and nauseous. Uh, and I
had but I was feeling I was starving because I
hadn't eaten very much yesterday. So uh all, like, all
I had yesterday to eat was uh it was a
thing of uh KARAOKEI chicken with noodles. That's it. That's
all I had yesterday eat. And I so today for lunch,

(04:45):
dinner like yellow like breakfast brunch I had, I had
a turkey sausage sandwich with and my go to thing
to do is to not get egg with it. When
I ordered the sandwich and get one of those get
you know what, an order of those uh veggie egg
white omelets, and I cut it and I split it

(05:08):
and lay the split one and lay it on the
turkey eat it. And you know, there's my because they
because they used to have the veggie a egg white
almlet as a choice now because they have it separately
they don't have that anymore. So in lieu of the
fried egg I usually do I sometimes do that, is
I is, I cut up the veggie egg white almond

(05:31):
and put it on the put it on my turkey
sausage sandwich, and then I got I got it. I
got a large coffee. Oh the uh the the peppermint
mocha and toasty white chocolate flavors are out already for
the holidays. And uh the toasty white chocolate is delicious.

(05:54):
No norm is delicious. I like as I've gotten order,
gotten away from from getting mocha in my uh in
my coffee drinks. But this was good. This was good. Anyway,
Enough about that, So today we are We're not review

(06:17):
ain't opera yet. We're trying, we're working on that, but yeah,
we're working on it. But we had to do we
had to recording day because Angela Georgia is fucking at
it again and this time actually outright lying through her
damn teeth.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yes, both face provable lying because and that's why I
say my name is krit I'm Krista, and I'm pissed
because oh you'll find out why Krista mad Krista smash
and not in the fun way, no, but Anna wants
to talk about something first.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yes, so.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Earlier this week, actually earlier today. Yonas Kaufman Christis Boo
did an interview with Blick ahead of his concert at
the KKL, and he the subject devind under Trepko came
up because her consert, of course, that the KKL was

(07:19):
canceled in May after she had condemned the War of
the Ukraine over two years ago, with a theater noting
KKL Lissen is not available for an Intrepko's concert on
June first, twenty twenty four. Public perception of the soloist
remains controversial, and he says it was the bands were

(07:40):
essentially short sighted. The full quote is, she's undisputedly one
of the most talented artists we have, and it is
simply too short sighted if we allow such artists disappeared
from our schedules. You can't freeze yourself and unfreeze yourself
in twenty years to continue their career. And he also
implied that there's been a double standard with her say

(08:01):
with her say, we have never had such a conflict
in which artists, regardless of their background, for asked to
share their color so often, I dare say that in
an earlier times they would have.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Been left alone. And that got me thinking, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Now we on, Like he pointed out, you know, she's
lived in Austria for many, many years, essentially has Austrian
citizenship if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, still have has relatives
in Russia. And he said she may not have behaved
ideally in the past, you know, true, but no matter
what she does now, she's unwanted in the West and persona.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Non grata in Russia. So one, I mean, I mean,
that's one hundred percent two he he done. The thing
about the.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Double standard is what I kept coming back to. And
as this actually occurred to me, as I was I'm
picking up my dinner, I'm pmsing like a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I'm late.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'm gonna be end up being a day late, which
it possibly more, which sucks because one, I know, I'm
not pregnant, so there's not even a baby at the
end of this bullshit. And to my little sister's getting
married on Friday and I'm the maid of honor, and
that this is like the absolute last week that I
need to have my period.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I was going down the stairs to my car to
pick up my dinner, which cobbled together through free points
on various apps go me. And it occurred to me
because I had read a little bit.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Of the article just to get myself familiarized with it,
and it occurred to me that he's really right with
the double standard.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
And this is why.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Now, Granned, you are considerably older than me, and I
don't know if this, this may have gone down while
you were a child. I'm not entirely sure, but and
let me actually bring it up, and I really he
Oh good, I spoke his first name correct.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
So no, you this you might have been just an
and you may have been just an infant when this happened.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Okay, so I think back to what to nineteen seventy
four when Barishnikoff defected.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, this was when someone was in office in Russia
that was.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Quite a bit easier to deal with politically then Pewtin was.
But Borishikoff still could not, you know, speak out and
do what he wanted and wanted and needed to do
performance wise without having to defect.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah. Fifty years later, here we've got on an a Trebgo,
another Russian performer.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Who, because of how much Russia gave to her career,
you know, and who is in office in Russia at
the time.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Now, Like I said, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Saying that ruse Cheff's a fuzzy little teddy bear like
everybody fucking made him out to be. Kruz Steff did
horrible shit, but the fact remains that politically he was
easier to deal with and marginally less batshit insane than
Putin was.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, because Peutin would not have done a pizza Hut commercial. Yeah,
like Khrushcheff not a nice guy, but definitely easier to
deal with. Yeah. Ananda Trupko ches.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
The line with Russia because you know, they gave her
so much of the career and she you know, has
Austrian citizenship, possibly feels that you know, that might that
might save her career. Yeah, still has family remaining in Russia.

(12:06):
Her career gets torpedo. Yeah, what happened with what happened
with Barishnikov's career though?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Nothing? Nothing? Uh huh? So I I am I agree
with Yona's coffin that there is a double standard there. Yeah. There,
And despite how famous an opera like an opera singer
or a dancer is maybe they don't always have the
option to defect.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, especially when or they have the option, but the
collateral damage to their family would be too unthinkable.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah. Well it's like though, it's like like when when
the Yonda's coffins. Right, is a double standard. Also, it's
been two years and she's behaved herself since then. Yeah,
she and she and he her husband. Well they're now
splitting up. From what I understand, that kind of sucks,

(13:13):
but I won't give you credit. He still posts pictures
of himself and Thiago and basically is like my son,
my son, my son. That's like that's how you do
a break up. Yes, that's how you do it properly. Yes,
but anyway, but like and also also look at his career.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
He's he basically did the same thing as his wife,
and he's not had near the amount of cancelations and
and she had and Yona's COPN is one hundred, right,
there is a double standard.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, And yeah, and Uh is off he is unabashedly
pro Azerbaijani. Okay, and you know, like to like in
that when uh, you know the conflict between Osibajean and
UH in Armenia, Yeah, the fighting and he is he

(14:11):
is the new the new genocide. Yeah, the new genocide.
So he is, he is pro Azerbaijani. He's a friend
of the Aibaijani president blah blah blah. And he has
not caught any slacks. Like yeah, nobody fucking said boo
to him about that? Yeah, about that. So, yes, there
is a double standard. Where is whereas you?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
And like I said, back fifty years ago, Brushnikov when
he defected nothing No, now, granted, I will say this,
defecting under Putin and defecting under Khrushchev were two different
beasts entirely because I'm pretty sure Krushchef was still in
charge in seventy four.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah he was, so yeah, so grided that was probably
quite a bit easier. And and like yeah, and and
Khrushchev was not paranoid beyond belief and did not uh

(15:18):
like I said, kruse Chef not a good person at all,
no mistake, but not a cuddly teddy bear. No, but
he did some funny shit, just like how.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Kissinger used to troll people at disney World, like Disneyland,
I should say, yeah, but it was fun what Kissinger
used to do, Folks was go. He loved Disneyland, which
that's just funny in itself. Yeah, he'd actually when he'd
go to the park, he wouldn't have them shut it
down at all.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
He'd like go there just when when like the general
public was there, and he'd asked to work some of
the stands, and he'd just sit there and watches people
kind of like recognize that actually, like I know that accent.
But then not being a to place him, I'm like, like,
horrible people can do funny ship but anyway, and for

(16:07):
our generation, that's that would be khrush Chef and his
Pizza Hut commercial. Yeah, but but he was in like,
like you said, nowhere near his paranoid yeah, like like
like look at Alexavalny, Like look at Alex Navalni. Yeah.
All he did was speak out against Putin and he's dead.

(16:30):
Yeah you know, and look at how many of the
people like the rice and umbrella dude, the guy that
yeah got shot with the rice and umbrella. Yeah, hello,
now great. I think that might have been like the
eighties or some early nineties possible. I forget the rice,

(16:51):
the rice and umbrella, but hold on right, rice and umbrella.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh, nineteen seventy eight, so it would have been like starting, Yeah,
oh he was a Bulgarian.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
He was a Bulgarian dissident. Okay, Bulgaria was a bit
weirder than Yeah, Bulgaria was a bit weirder than than
the Soviet Union back in the day. But at the
same like I said, well, at the same time or
like or like who is it? Like, uh was it

(17:29):
the poisoning? Is it? Like like the dioxin poisoning. Yeah, yeah,
like dioc the dioxin poisonings over in Russia, like the Ukraine.
The one Ukrainian president has been you know, physically scarred
for life on his face because the yeah, the former

(17:51):
because of the dioxan poisoning. The one guy was poisoned.
You And there were pictures of him all over the news,
like at in a hospital bed and he died, yeah,
because he was poisoned. And I can't and I can't thallium.
Was it thallium? I think it was thallium. Yeah, And

(18:13):
it's like, you know, like he was seriously and he
like but yeah, like I said, the Kruise Jeff was
not a nice cuddly guy, but.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
He was infinitely easier to deal with politically and get
out from under than Putin is. Yeah, so I'm on
so yeah, after thinking of after reading what Jonas Kaufman
had to say and thinking about it, Yes, he's one
hundred percent right, and he makes a good point like it,

(18:54):
it doesn't matter how well on in a Tripo behaves.
Now they're a pair, only her career is basically screwed,
whereas you, suf i Isov is running around doing the
same goddamn things.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
And he still has his career. Yeah, and that is
not fair at all. No, Look, if you're gonna condemn
some one person from saying it, condemn everyone who does it. Yeah,
does it? I would be saying the same thing.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
If say Pyotr Vashalla came out in favor of the
Azerbaijani or or spoke or came out on Russia's side,
I'd be calling for him to lose all his ship too.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, and I'd be hoping that a bird pooped on
his car, because that's just how I roll.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, but yeah, it like, it doesn't matter who does
it they If one person is losing their career for it,
anyone who does it should lose their career.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, seriously, here and he's right, you.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Can't and you can't freeze yourself and the I know,
freeze yourself in twenty years to continue your career.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, that's just not how it works. I mean, and
again this is gonna sound we're coming from me, but
you know it makes sense. But yeah, I mean that's
probably like, I mean, look at Placid Domingo.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
If he had frozen his career twenty years ago and
tried to come back now, I mean, granted he would
be in a different position because he was one of
the three tenors.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
But it probably would be kind of difficult. Yeah, And
the fact that he that he changed as he aged,
he went back to his natural baritone voice that he
would not like if he tried to compete at a

(20:46):
tenor level now, he would not be able to hack
it with the tenors that are out there, like Yonus,
like Pyotr like And even if he.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Came back, had stopped for twenty years and then came
back and did just as a baritone, people would be
concerned because one they're not using being a baritone, but
two there's also.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
The age factor.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yes, although I'll say this, he's had less health issues
than Poe Jose Carreras has but still people would be
a little bit concerned that they'd be running into the
possibility of him dropping mid Aria.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, there's still I would wish how has happened? Yeah,
I would still be concerned about that. Now, well he
doesn't say as much anymore. He usually he mostly conducts.
But so he but he's still performing. Yeah, yeah, so
yeah he's one rate. Yeah. But now so there's that.

(21:51):
But let's get to this bitch over here, and then
we have something nice to round up everything. Yes, well,
let's get to the nice. Let's shall we say that
for a chaser? Yeah, the nice can be the chaser. Okay,
all right, so let me get to this bitch over here,

(22:14):
because I I read this on Friday and I was Apple,
and I'll tell you I was apoplectic when I read this.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Okay, she was apoplectic over it still before we started recording.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Oh yeah, so okay, if you recall we have told
you about about uh Angela Gilgiu uh and in the
in uh this bitch right, she went she was in
Korea and she she was performing in Tosca and and

(22:58):
as and you know how the tenors do the third act,
They sometimes they will do the encore for UH, for
the rerecord UH. And as the tenor was doing that
in this particular production, she came stomping out on the

(23:19):
UH onto the thing and said onto the stage and said,
excuse me, it's a performance, not a it's not a recital.
Respect me, and stomped off and then f yeah. And
the of course at the during the curtain call, she
came out to for her curtain call and was promptly booed,

(23:44):
and she turned right and she turned right around on
a noped off stage and yeah, so and then of course,
you know, she tried to say, I told them we
were all agreement that I do not do UH, I
would not do a an encore and and everybody was

(24:09):
in agreement with it. But then of course the the
theater came out and said, why you always lie while
you always lie and you know and lie, yeah, lie,
And they said no. She was the only one that

(24:30):
said that. No one else agreed to it. And if
anyone does a and it is up to the conductor
and the tenor if they want to do an encore,
it's not up to anyone else. It's not an arbitrary decision.
Okay yo, if yeah, that's up to the tenor and

(24:53):
the conductor. So so of course there strike one against
or she fucking right lie, And so here we go here.
Oh we have a new we have a new plot
twist here, which is why I'm pissed. Okay, so oh

(25:15):
hold my hold my diet, coke, hold my diet gone
care bitch uh. Angela Gargue is doubling down on the
incident in Corea. In a recent interview with People Person
in Bucharest. People Person is a I guess it's like
it's a media entity in Romania. The Romanian diva was

(25:39):
asked about the incident where she interrupted her colleagues's encore
uh during the performance. She said that she has always
respected the flow of an opera performance and even cited
conductors who never allowed orange encorees like gay org Zolte,
James Levine and Outre Toscanini. Why would yeah, yeah, creeper

(26:03):
hair and Artura Tuscanini, the fucker who chopped the original
Alfano ending to Turin doot. Okay, I will never forgive
him for that, yeah, bitch, yeah? And why would you
cite dead conductors? First of all, so she said, I

(26:26):
have been singing in Korea for twenty four years now,
so Uh. In thirty four years of career, together with
all my colleagues, I had a principal a backbone and
a respect for opera. The opera performance must have fluency
in the theater. An actor does not repeat a monologue
in a performance because it immediately spoils the flow of

(26:48):
the story. For me, the most important thing in opera
is the story. Opera is a stage plut. Yeah, opera
is a stage play and should not be interrupted. There
were great conductors who did not even allow applause during
a performance, and we were talking. We were talking about
here about Arturo Toscanini, Herbert Vonkarian, George Sulti, Garrick Sulti,

(27:12):
Laura Mazzelle, Zuba Meta, or James Levine who did not
allow and did not conceive encorees during a performance. She
added that she had been asked to do an encore
and fly out said no, which is her preference. By
the way, she can do that, uh, she said. In Korea,
I was asked by the conductor before the second act

(27:33):
if I would do like the encore my aria vc d'Arte,
and the answer was category categorically, No, I too had
huge applause at VC Darte, but I respected the artistic
principle to the end. Georget added, Yeah, yeah, georg you added,
we discussed this very thing before these shows and agreed

(27:54):
with the production team and the conductor that there would
be no encores. Technically, he's a lie. Yeah, technically speaking, Uh,
I entered the stage immediately after my colleagues a riyah,
I have to take a step or if he encorese
I have to go backstage. I take a step back
to wait for him. Oh, how fucking terrible? Boo fucking he? Who? Who? Seriously?

(28:24):
Then this is what pissed me off. This started the pissing,
the pissing off of me. Okay, the diva also took
a dig at yonas Kaufman, and he inded it. In
twenty sixteen, when following an encore of a Luchevan Mastella,
Georgi did not come out and the tenators told Tendor

(28:44):
to only honest, no biano, no no na bian soprano
Kaufman sang in Puccini like strains before the opera was
stopped and had to restart. Uh. She also inferred to
helping Kaufman elevate his career to stardom. Nonna you thought, okay,

(29:07):
So let me get to what she said first, and
then I shall and then I shall rip into miss
gr Gill, she said in Vienna. I went right into
the booth because it was close to the stage, only
after the encore of my colleague, the tenor whom I
helped a lot in his career over time, and who
had told me during the rehearsals that he wouldn't accept encores. No, no,

(29:31):
that was there was no more applause, not at all.
So I had to run out of the booth to
get on stage. The conductor or in these cases, the conductor,
together with the tenor, decides whether to resume the aria,
and the reactions were not spontaneous but pre programmed. Are
you fucking kidding me? Also, let me tell you a secret,

(29:53):
and encore never sounds better than the first time you
sang the aria in a personal content. Yeah, in a
personal concert you're only which you're only invited to do.
If you're a big name, you can do as many
encores as you want, it's your concert. But in a
show you respect the score. Fuck off, you dumb ass. Bitch.

(30:18):
First of all, I have watched okay, yonas do encorees. Okay,
they're never pre programmed. Okay, yeah, she's lying yes, because
it is it is up to like if if it
is up to the conductor, if the conductor will signal

(30:39):
to the tendor do you want to do an encore?
The tenor will encore, and the tenor will you decide yeah, okay,
you know, like he'll say, okay, yeah, let's let's do
this encore and then you know, like so it's so,
it's it's basically it is up to the conductor. It

(30:59):
is mainly the conductor's choice. If he wants to do
an encore, they will pause the they will pause the
uh the opera too, for the applause. Okay, they have
done that. I have seen that happen when like in

(31:20):
Vienna when Yoda sang uh che, let's say ada, they
stopped to let the audience you know that. And in Aida,
and in nineteen eighty five when Lantine Price sang opatria Mia,
she got like a ship, she got what forty minutes
of applause or so, and she stood there and and

(31:45):
it was James Levine, Hello, fu face, who let that happen.
Who's let the opera stop while they while the audience
applauded her. So again, whore and here's a bitch ass liar? Yes,
uh so and yeah, so she's lying about that, I

(32:09):
honestly okay he ah, you know, it's like, come on,
so and so my second I have a second point
that I'm pissed at about, Like now she's just saying
shit that's demonstrably untrue. Yeah. The tenor whom I helped
a lot in his career over time, you didn't do shit. Okay,

(32:35):
he started with her, Let's see, he's only I he
he did a concert wory Abu Dhabi with her. I
remember that he was normal present. I don't know, I think, yeah, anyway,
uh he he did a concert with her. There he

(32:58):
he's she's He started with her in Larundine in two
thousand and four in London. He started with her in
two thousand and six at the met in Traviata. He
did an album with her in two thousand and eight

(33:19):
for uh and he did he did Butterfly. That was
the only time he ever did Butterfly to Yes, the
only time he ever sang Fingerton. Yeah. So and then
of course he started with her in twenty eleven in
Tosca and then in twenty and then again in twenty
sixteen to Vienna, and there was no soprano. Yeah, and

(33:46):
he and that was the last time as as far as.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Working with someone multiple times doesn't count as helping.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah. And by the time that and by the time,
let's say, you know, like two thousand and eight, at
the same time that he was storry that he was
doing uh, that he was doing trovi Yeah, he did
Travia on in two thousand and six. At that same
time in London, he was he was debuting as John

(34:23):
Don Josette. Okay, Don fuck Fay. Yeah, he was making
his debut as Don fuck face without her, not her
on she was not on stage, okay. Two years later
was that Anita.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Was?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Two years later was Anita in Milan? Oh? It was
the lock Dance one? Yeah, the lock dance Carmen was
the was the open shirt lap dance? Yeah, it was
the should we be seeing this Carmen? Yeah? And and
so like the first like the two thousand and six
one was uh was her? Uh was uh Anna Catherine

(35:01):
and a Katerina Yeah, yeah, uh And Uh, I got it,
I got it right, just anglicized. But anyway, yeah, that's
that's the one where she did. Yeah, that he did
with her, and uh I liked her dress in that production,
I did.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
But anyway, he yeah, that he that was his debut
with was it with Angela curegu And like since then,
like in that like in the what.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Really like and just have the audacity to say that
you helped them, that she's helping them. She don't make
the casting decisions, bitch. Yeah, And she's referring to the
fact that he was on the met stage and that's

(35:59):
where he first got really noticed. Okay, not bitch. Yeah.
So now in the autistic community, in the autistic advocacy community,
we call we we have this saying when it comes
to vaccine, you know, vaccine, bastards. Okay, correlation does not

(36:23):
equal causation, equal causation. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Look, just because he was in a few productions with
you that did really, really well does not mean you helped.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
That implies that you had a hand in him getting cast,
which we all know is not fucking correct. Yeah. Now,
by this time he had started, you know, by the
time he got there, he was already he was already
uh signed with the with uh open House Zurich, which

(36:55):
that's one of the major they're not gonna sign.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
They're not gonna sign someone they don't think it's going
to be a big fucking hit.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, so you know, and he'd already made a name
for himself in Stuttgarten and saw it broken and where
you didn't help him with Ship Yeah, and in London.
So it's like you didn't do ship for him?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah, you're what you the amount of help you
gave him his equivalent to what they found combing the
desert in spaceballs.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
You ain't helped ship Yeah no, so uh yeah, it's like, seriously,
this bitch, I mean, now you know and now yeah,
now you know why Jonas threw her under the bus

(37:51):
in that documentary. Yeah, he knows the kind of person
she is. Yeah. And and here's a question he has.
He has co starred with so many other sopranos over
the past eight years, and that's the eight years since
he last co starred with her. Why has he he
co starred with her again? It's I do not know.

(38:16):
Gollye G whizzed. What could have happened? Yeah, seriously, he
could say like he has started multiple times with a
trump go multiple times with Sandra Rodvanovsky, multiple times with
uh Maria Agresta, with Rachel Willis Sorensi. He has asked that,

(38:38):
you know, Sonyava, he has asked them to be on
his there on his on their albums, Okay, he has.
He has asked them to be on his albums. He has,
you know, like, look at who he recorded with, uh,
you know on Puccini, he look who he look who
he did, you know, like the sixth the six sopranos

(38:58):
he chose. He even says pretty end day who he
never worked with before.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
That's helping. Yeah, that right there is how you help
someone's career. Yeah, when you've never recorded with them at all,
you've never performed with them at all, but you know
that they're good as hell, so you say, hey, come
beyond an album with me. Yeah, because that will do

(39:26):
a lot for their career because people will be listening
to that album and hearing that soprano and being like,
you know what, I really like this oude of their voice.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Maybe I should check out some more of their work.
That's fucking helping a career.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, just being on stage with them doesn't help because
you could have the best staging in the world and
if they're you know, say, not going to be able
to hit that it's or something goes wrong with the
say the the orchestra, like someone accidentally hits a bum node.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Like there's a million things that could.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Go wrong during a performance that would be out of
their control. The more people would remember and it wouldn't
do boo for that person's career.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, so she's just.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I mean, where did she pick up where did she
pick up the audacity of a straight white male?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Seriously, That's what I want to know. Oh, and there's
one more thing I wanted to mention that she said
in this article, which is a bold face fucking lie. Uh.
The soprano also, and I love how they said this.
How upright for this incorrectly stated that both tenors, that
not only the tenor that was in Korea, but Yonis

(40:41):
have only on cored when she is on stage she said.
It is also a demonstrable fucking lie. It is also
worth noting that these tenors have never done encores on
stage during opera performances, accepting those where they sang with.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Me, and that of course, like like I said, demonstrable
fucking lie. What the hell is wrong with this bitch?

Speaker 1 (41:03):
And of course, at right after that, Kaufman made history
alongside Sandra Radvanovsky in twenty nineteen when both stars been
on course during a performance in Tosca at the Teatra
Reale de Madrid. Yeah. So she's, like I said, she
is so.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Hell bent on being in the right, but now she's
just fucking lying about literally everything.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, it's like okay, oh oh, listen to this. This
is a digget yonas. This is another digit yonas. She
doesn't mention him by name in this aspect, but this
is a this is a dig of him. In the interview,
George You also spoke about turning down roles and the

(41:51):
fact that she has never suffered vocal issues, unlike some
of her colleagues who ended up in doctor for accepting
rules that were too heavy for their voices. She also
spoke about the modern diva and addressed the fact that
many have called her difficult. Well maybe that, well, maybe
there's a reason. Yeah, Collige, g whizz, She said, Yes,

(42:16):
I turned down more than half of the show proposals,
especially the modern ones. I have nothing against them if
they respect the story the libretto. But if this modernism
becomes adberrant, I don't want to take part in it. Well,
not like Christianna would hire her ass anyways at this point, seriously,
I mean, yeah, Christianna is not gonna Not even Christiana

(42:39):
would hire her. Fuck and Christianna's like dealing. She'd hire
her and then she'd like put the people out. Oh sorry,
this is too modern for you. Bye, bitch. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
That is pettiness that I mean. Honestly, I don't think
she'd be that petty. But at the same time, if
she did, I would totally.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Support that pettiness. Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's just.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, it's just how pompous. That's the word that I
was looking for. How pompous and fucking full of yourself.
You have to like and honestly, as much as we
rip on Domingo for you know, I mean rightfully so

(43:26):
in most cases, but for being like, oh, I'm a
big star.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Has he ever behaved like her? I don't. I don't
ever think he has. Yeah, like, I'll give him that
he he granted, the man doesn't know how to behave
entirely and can confirm that. But this is a good dude. Yeah, like, okay,

(44:02):
you know that you know the key. Oh god, it
just lady, you do not have the type of career
to pull that sort of shit off that you think
you do. Yeah, what are they fucking? Ah? And I
I said when I put that, when I put the
article up on my on my Facebook page, I said,

(44:23):
who the hell told you? Yeah? You went full Brandy
Rhodes on her. I said, who the hell told you? Yeah?
Who the hell told you? Was open Mic night? You sorry?
Asked you lie? And asked second? Great uh cosplay of
Maria kallis h I swear I said something in return

(44:47):
on that that was also uh oh yeah, what what
did I say? Because I know I said something.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I we we like. Brandy Rhodes's promos on a W
are so infinitely quotable and so goddamn many.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I loved her.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I loved but like Brandon Roose is a badass and
Cody Rhodes is lucky to have been able to land her,
Like I'm just.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Going back through to find it's like, who the hell is? Like,
Brandy's the one that started who the hell told you?
Is open Mic? Dye bitch?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
And I was gonna put that, But I just wanted
that she was that Angela. Angela Giorgio is the Kanye
West of opera.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, there you go. Because she said I hope to
ask her. All I could think of was his line
from line about Taylor Swift. I made that bitch famous.
No you didn't. Yeah, I mean, granted that was a
whole ass mess on its own, but she's really reaching
that level of hubris at this point. Yeah. Yeah, that's

(45:58):
that's not good. Yeah, that's like, come on, you know
that's the lady. Knock it off. You're just digging the
You're just digging the deep, the hole deeper, you know.
I And you know what, I hope Yonis takes the
time to sit down, like somebody takes the time to

(46:21):
sit down with Jonas ask them about her. I'm sorry,
my brain just so.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
There's this dwarf metal band, so literally they sing metal
songs as if they were dwarfs from like folklore. Yeah,
and they have and their name is Windrows, and they
have this song called Diggy Diggy Hole and the chorus
is I am a dwarf and I'm digging a hole.
All I could think of is, I'm a soprano when
I'm digging a hole, digggy digging a hole.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I'm like, you're you and I'm digging a hole. I
was good name it now. I was going to name
this episode the Audacity of this Bitch. But I think

(47:16):
now I'm the Audacity of this bitch. I was going
to name it. Now, I'm gonna name it diggy diggy hole. Okay, ah,
well I should name it. I think I think I'm
gonna name it. Said, the soprano is digging a hole. Yeah,

(47:37):
that way, we don't, we don't. Yeah, soprano dig it
a whole. The soprano diggs. We don't take anything away
from Windrows, which the soprano digs a whole. Fucking awesome
and diggy digg hole is catchier that it has any
goddamn right to be. Yeah, the soprano digs the whole,
digs the hole deeper. There you out kah my god,

(48:00):
it's just seriously. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
And by the way, Angela killed you to quote to
quote one of the adderals from Star Trek, and this
actually was in an episode of The card Sheer fucking
hue Breast.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, there you go, and let me to And by
the way, Angela, your gu keep my man's name out
your damn mouth. Consider that a verbal slap to to paraphrase,
will Smith keep my man's name out? No, keep my

(48:41):
man's name out your fucking mouth. There you go to
quote to paraphrase will Smith keep my man's name out
your fucking mouth, and to quote yeah, and and also
to quote, uh Canisca to Okada.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
Bitch, I was gonna say, where's the ocon quote yeah,
and I knew that was coming it just when bitch.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Like now yeah, seriously, no, bitch, bitch, no, seriously. Yeah,
this I want, I want and I want a journalist
to call up Yonis and say, can I interview you
about things that Angela cured you has said and what

(49:30):
she has done? And you know, Jonas does not live
in a vacuum. You know he has heard about this.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Oh yeah, I'm sure he's heard about this because she's
now brought him into it.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Oh yeah she oh yeah, she directly made it his
business now oh yeah, yeah it is he is, Yeah,
it is his business. Now he is going to clap back.
I am sure he's going to be professional battle like
he did with what about Addam Go. But you know

(50:01):
he's going to clap back. Ah, and you know, like
he's gonna say, he's probably gonna I wish there was
a clip. I wish there was a clip of that
of that where you could see that he discusses it.
You know, mind you that, mind you. The the uh

(50:25):
documentary is in German, but it's a subtitled Engling English.
But still we're sitting like it. And I sat there
and watched it. We're like, oh, shut you know where,
Like it's like, okay, like shove her under the bus
and that as this said, now, the man also threw

(50:45):
Domingo under the bus, so you know.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
But I mean who had but at that point, honestly,
who hadn't thrown Domingo under the bus?

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Wait? Wait, feed that man to the path bus tires
every damn time we record pretty much oh yeah, oh yeah,
like seriously, but like for Jonas to do that, that
was great and he and the best word is he
didn't do it in like a pissy, smarmy way or

(51:16):
kind of a bituay like we like we admittedly do,
but you know, we admit we're bitches. So there's no
surprise there. He threw him under the bus in probably
the most polite way possible. Oh yeah, he said, I
they they name, but the way he just but there's
really no one.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Else it could have applied to, considering one of the
three tenders is unfortunately dead yea, and the other one
has retired from performing because of health issues.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah, and like he like, there's like no one there's
there was literally no one else that he could have
been referring to. Yeah, he like his friend out. Alexander
asked him what he's gonna do when he retires, yeah,
or you know, and he said, well, I have my family,
I have my hobbies. And he says, and he was

(52:08):
going on. He says, it's a shame. He says, I
see this one performer. He says, I've seen this one
singer who he says, I have a life off, you know,
outside of opera. He says, there are He says, I've
seen one person who doesn't know who, who refuses to
stop performing because they can't stay off stage because they

(52:30):
have no life beyond it, you know what given you know?
And I don't want to say and again, correlation is
not causation, Yeah, but I can't help but wonder since
Domingo is only really doing concert performances.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Now, yeah, if maybe he saw that documentary that was
like a wake up call to him, like you know what,
maybe he's right, yeah, because well he still has very
much anymore except for like the occasional concert performances.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Well, he still does stuff outside. He still works in Europe,
off and on.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
He's like I said, though, off and on, he's not
constantly constantly on stage anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
No, and he but he does do some conducting. He
does still sing occasionally conducting. We're not conducting, we're not
counting because that's not on stage. Okay, I was gonna say,
well he had well he's yeah, he does, he does
that occasionally, does sing occasionally. But he has but like
I think what Jannis was referring to, not just like singing,

(53:40):
he just does nothing else but work. Yeah, because he
has that doesn't make sense, because he has the conducting
he has He does the occasional singing, but he has
the conducting, and he has the opera, the oper alia
that's not just in Los Angeles, it's worldwide. So that's why.
And and because he doesn't, he can't set foot in

(54:02):
the La op or anymore. You know it, you know it.
I will say this for him.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
He learned, he learned, and he I and I can't
believe I'm about to say something nice about him, but again, hormones,
So maybe I'm inclined to Well, no, let's be honest, looking.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
At all of the things he's done since that incident, Yeah,
he seems to have gotten the fucking message.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
And been behaving himself, because I think there was like,
what one other thing that came out after that and
then nothing else. Yeah, since then, and I think it, well,
it could be I think that he honestly realized that
he genuinely realized. I'm willing to give him the benefit
of the doubt that he realized how badly he fucked

(54:58):
up and has genuinely changed his behavior.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Of course, on the other hand, it's yeah, But at
the same time, I think that with people knowing that they're.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Knowing that they'd be more now that they'd be believed
if they reported that he did something shady to them.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Mm hmm. I think that we would have heard about it, yeah, because,
like I said, with the.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
La Opera find saying yeah, this genuinely happened, we don't
want him anymore. That right there gives people every who
would encounter him if he did do something else, every
reason to believe that they would be believed and that
things would be done properly for them.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
So, and looking at how other opera companies have dealt
with things like that, there's more, there's a better chance.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
That they be believed no matter what. Now. Oh yeah, so,
I honestly, I think in his old age he has
wised the fuck up. Yeah, too bad, Too bad it
happened in so late.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
But I mean, honestly, even if that shit hadn't come out,
I'm pretty sure we would have made fun of him anyways,
because he's the only one of the three tenors that
had a goofy ass muppet. Yeah, I don't after him. Yeah, so,
I mean I'm pretty sure we would have been ripping
on him anyways. Yeah, but uh, well, you know, we're

(56:36):
Pavaratti gals. So yeah, but you can only choose one
of the tenors to like apparently.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
But you know, yeah, so it's like, but yeah, like
he learned from his missteps.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Angelina Georgio is stomping the grapes further. Yeah, she's not
getting wine, she's getting dregs. At this point, She's getting
the dregs at this.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Point and whatever whatever comes. I hate to quote this
only because of the person that it's from, but you
remember that bit from Bill Cosby himself where he says
about his parents behaving.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
He says, you're seeing people. You're not seeing good people.
You're seeing people that are trying to get into heaven. Yes,
we're seeing a soprano who's trying to salvage what's left
of her career and failing miserably.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
M h yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
And like I said, I hate to quote that, but
it's but the idea is the same, essentially, that you're
seeing someone who's trying, who's not sorry for what they did.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
You're seeing someone who's trying to save their career. Yeah,
you have to. It's like, it's like I I it's
and when you resort to making claims that, in at
least one case, if not more, are are very demonstrably
untrue and provably untrue, oh yeah, you're You're fucked. But

(58:20):
it's like, honestly, I want her publicist to be like,
who the hell to literally quote Brandy Rhodes at her Yeah,
because I think the best thing for her to do
in this case is just stop fucking talking seriously.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
And I do not say that lightly, you know, being
a woman who has been told repeatedly to shut her
fucking mouth and not defend herself. But this isn't a
case of defending yourself when you're in the right. This
is a case of you're defending yourself and you're lying
to make yourself look better. Yeah, she's behaving like I

(58:58):
even go so far as to say she's behaving as
an adult the way a high school bully went to
get out of trouble.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Oh yeah, it's like we're literally walking into Darvo the Opera. Ah,
this is just I like, and I don't I also
don't say.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
This lightly, but I can't help but remember the one
birthday where we went to this real themed restaurant in
Mount Pleasant, my parents, my little sister, and my grandparents,
and the Steelers game was on. It was a Sunday
and it was an afternoon Steelers game, and we're at

(59:44):
the counterpan and dad and granddad and I are watching it.
And it was Tommy Maddox's last game as a Steeler
and he fucked up something and I can't remember exactly
what it was, but my dad with frightening Prussians from
at decades, I would assume of watching football, looked at

(01:00:06):
the TV and then looked at my granddad and said, Gene,
I think we both I think we're watching a man's
career end.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Sure enough that Tuesday they released Tommy Maddox.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Get with this latest interview, I'm getting the feeling that
the same thing is happening, that we are watching Angelina
Georgia torpedo her own career. Oh yeah, like she's she's
literally torpedo in what a thirty four year career?

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Sure, because Kathleen battles off somewhere going yeah, y'all, and
y'all fired me because I was difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Look what you got left with?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yeah, I mean because yeah, I mean, granted, Kathleen Battle's
behavior not the best, but she also would not have
stomped out and pulled that bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
She kept it backstage. Yeah, yeah, and eventually the met
Yeah she's gone back yeah for a concert performance, which
is which kind of sucks because she's an amazing, amazing singer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
She is, And the first reason I thought of when
when I read what Yona said about you can't freeze
and then unfreeze a career twenty years later. Yeah, she
I think she definitely got cheated out of the type
of career she should have had. Yeah, but here's someone
that had that career and it's just throwing it all

(01:01:40):
away because she has a more inflated sense of her
importance than she should.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah. I mean I watched I watched a video and
granted this is from two thousand and eight, but it
was a make of that album of Madame Butterfly with
her and Yondahs and you know how I you know

(01:02:08):
how I I've said before, I don't like the way
she the way she presents herself on stage where she
can't keep her arms down, you know, she's like, yeah,
she does that when she's singing off stage as well,
she cannot. It's like she It's like it's like are

(01:02:30):
you trying? It's like do you have like really, it's
like your is your is your deodorant? You know? Do
you need to air out your arm pits as you
deodorant not working? Right? What's going on? She can't keep
her arms down when she's singing. Yonahs is standing there,
you know, arms crossed. He sings like yeah, he'll he'll

(01:02:53):
sing like that, he'll you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Know, he's got like the Mary Bless him, He's got
the Mary Catherine Gallagher position, going mm hm oh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Yeah, and he just he just she she's sitting there
like she's trying to like, like, for God's sake, what
is she doing, trying to fly away or something? And
motherfuckers and she actually, like if you look at the

(01:03:22):
the cover of that CD she has, she she is
a white woman, okay, And she cosplayed as a white
woman and like with her hair up and like wearing
a kimono posing for Madama Butterfly for that cover. I'm like, nah, nah,

(01:03:51):
excuse you. I can tell you are not Asian, Okay. Now, granted, like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
In the UH, in the only as far as we know,
there's only been one. We've only seen one Asian performer.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Yeah, and but you know, like at the same time,
Nanna bitch, yeah she she she just went full white lady,
put it on kimoo and put her hair. He told
you it was cultural appropriation, night, bitch. Seriously. I'm like, no,

(01:04:34):
you know that, No you I asked, motherfucker seriously. And
there and in the in the UH, in the UH
making a video, it shows her in different poses like that.
I'm like why, like why is the one gift from

(01:04:59):
SNL and like no and like don't. Yes, so this
tells you like and that was her, and that was her.
That was her first time singing Chu chas on and
dishonor on your cow, dishonor on you dishonor on your family,

(01:05:20):
dishonor on your cow? Oh my god, where is? Where is?
Where is j Yeah? Where is? Where is Jeremy when
you need him? Jeremy, Jeremy Jeremy Kim, the Jeremy Kim
and Eddie Murphy both dishonoring her cow? Yes? Where is? Yeah?
Where where are they? Because Jeremy Kim you don't know him.

(01:05:43):
He's on TikTok and Instagram. I don't know Jeremy Kim.
Your life is sad. He's he's the angry rice guy
or the angry Mulan guy. He on on TikTok. He yeah,
he goes disona desda you desa your family on your cow,
and like seriously, and he was your fucking rice. Yes, yeah,

(01:06:12):
we were actually talking about him. There was a work
function I went to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
That my friend bes was was telling us about and
that washing the rice came up and I'm like, what,
just because I never heard of him before.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Yeah, and she was just like, yes, you need to
know about this guy. Oh yeah, oh oh yeah. So
like and like he was he dressed he went to
a comic con and he he went to New York

(01:06:54):
Comic Con and dressed as Mulan. Because that guy when
he dresses like Milan, he he looks awesome in makeup.
He'm's a badass. Oh yeah, I love him, Yeah you
like him, but yeah, he's seriously to quote to quote

(01:07:17):
to quote, angry Race got disauna on you, desaona on
your family, on your cow, like god, your whole ass cow,
your whole ass cow, not just not just you know,
not just you know, the the the the ribs there,
just you know the whole cow. Uh seriously, shot on

(01:07:43):
every goddamn bit of that cow, even the butthole. Yeah,
oh my god. But like, seriously, we are seeing we
are seeing your career. Yeah, we're watching it. We're watching
the death spiral of Angeley Jorgy's career. And it didn't
have to be like this, No, it did not, absolutely

(01:08:06):
did not. She chose to step on to step on
that stage and do that and say that and shout
that and then go off and she chose then to
further lie through her damn teeth. Yes, you hate to

(01:08:28):
see somebody bring it on themselves, but she brought it
on herself. Yeah, and it's like it's like, oh, you
know it's with the old meme memes and photo mam
ma'am oh yeah, but seriously that she's going to she's

(01:08:54):
gonna turn around and when people start not wanting to
sign her, she's gonna be like, oh, what was me? Why? Yeah?
You know exactly why? Yeah. You know it's like like
and Gido Jonas, it's not going to be like unless

(01:09:16):
he's prompted to like he did, like they did with
like they did in one article. He's not going to
tell you why he he has not worked with her
in eight years, but like like it's obvious, yeah, but
with by like with by Right, he is not. He

(01:09:37):
has not sung it by Right since twenty ten and
you know since that since that rat production in of
Low and Grin. And he will tell you he has said,
he said in an interview, I do not They told
me I have to sing a certain way, you know,
I told them, I you know, I yeah, I studied

(01:09:59):
you Vogner, and I know that he he wants it.
He wanted it sung in a legato and you know,
Loan Bred was to be sung in an Italian way,
in a logato way, and they didn't want that. They
wanted it. They wanted it shouted and sung harshly, and
I told them no. And after that and so after
that production, he has not set forth in by Raid again.

(01:10:24):
But he only mentioned that in an interview that he did. Yeah,
somebody asked him outright now, he's not gonna he.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
He actually had a good reason because he's like, look,
I've studied the person that basically created all this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Yeah, this is how it's supposed to be done. This
is how he says it's supposed to be done. And
this is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
What makes it worse is that it was Wagner's own
like foundation was like no, yeah, it's like motherfuckers. Yeah,
and he took excuse the fuck out of my goddamn
French seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
But he, you know, like he he's not going to
be like and with this, He's not going to outright
come out and say, hey, I'd like to say something
about Angela your gu He's not going to do that.
He's not that kind of c Yeah, he's he's he's
that he's too much of a gentleman to actually come
out and say, yeah, he's going to he's going to

(01:11:36):
say something if he's asked, if he's asked in an interview,
would you mind making would you mind commenting on the
things that Angela Georghu has said about you? And he's
going to say, Okay, let's you know, here's what happens.
I would like to say a few things. Yes, you
know he's going to be polite and you know, you

(01:11:57):
know he's here. Here's here's where he would need uh
uh an anger translator that you volunteer as his anger translator? Yes,
who the hell told you? It was opened bits like

(01:12:19):
we get.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
It's like the only thing that saves us from a
lawsuit from Bradie Roads is the fact that we're just
too damn funny.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Oh god, she's I love that. Yeah, you know, I
love that people listen to our podcast, but that were
not important enough to get sued. It's like the perfect
middle ground.

Speaker 6 (01:12:41):
It is, Yeah, enough people that we can say, hey,
we've got a following, but not enough people for anyone
to pay attention for how many times.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
We've ripped off their lines.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Yeah, whatever, it's perfect because of the perfect middle ground there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
But seriously, like he's he's he's gonna sit down and
he's gonna be polite about it. Where you know, in
his head he's like, I could, god damn rip her
a new asshole. You know, it is that he is
the motherfucking pterodactyl. Yeah, oh my god. Just seriously, it's

(01:13:21):
just he's gonna be like they'll ask him, he'll be
polite about it, but he'll say, uh, this is what
actually went on. Yeah, he'll say, I'm I you know,
in my defense, this is he well, he won't say that.
He'll say, uh, this is what happened. Yeah, this is
what actually, this is what actually happened in twenty sixteen

(01:13:46):
that he says. He'll say, you know, she did not
help me with my career. She was on stage with
me a few times, but she did nothing to help
me with my career. And then he'll and then he'll
turn around and say, uh, by the way, I have
on poured many many times, and she has never been
in those times. She has not been on stage. Oh

(01:14:13):
my god. Yeah, he put the record straight and also
make her look like a booch. Oh yeah, I think
Yonas is at the point now where he fucks no no,
like there are like there are up and coming opera

(01:14:34):
singers that look up to him, that have idolized him,
that use him, like like his hit like Yonas's uh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Uh like he he.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
He says he wants to sing in the style not
of Paparatti or anybody that like that, but he thinks
his style matches. Uh Franko Correlli and uh, having seen
I would agree, yeah, and uh I'm videos by yes, yes,

(01:15:09):
uh and yeah, there are there are up and coming
singers who look to Jonas as a model for their
singing style. They like Jonathan Tedeleman has said that Jonas
is one of his the guys who look the tenors
he looks up to. Uh and and he's close to it,

(01:15:33):
you know. Uh. There there are some that have said
he could be the next Younis Kaufman. Uh but yeah, seriously,
they like he's not like it's like with it's like
with the older. Yeah, like the the older these hockey
players get, uh, the more that they become the the

(01:15:56):
hockey heroes of the younger generation. Everybody is everybody, right, Now,
who's a hero to someone? Is Ya's baby essentially? Yeah,
Yagarle and Gretzky's babies. Oh yeah, like I looked up
to like Crosby, I looked up to Lemoeux. Now everybody
looks up to Crosby. Oh yeah, it's just you know,

(01:16:24):
it's it's like that. But like, get you, Yonas looked
up to looked up to Correlli and now every people
are looking up to Yonas now. And yeah, but he's
but seriously, he is at the point now where he's
comfortable in his career. He's not gonna retire, he said.

(01:16:45):
He said multiple times they ask him, get the your
career is at this point now where there aren't that
many Uh, there aren't that many rules that you have
left to say. And he's named a couple that he
wants to try. Fedora is one of them. Yeah. Uh
uh he wants to do that one. Yeah he does, uh,

(01:17:11):
the one that Pyotr did with Sonya. Yeah uh he uh.
And he said he wants to try peals in Malisan
but he yeah, but he uh but he said, you know,
he he's you know, he'll he'll keep doing the ones

(01:17:32):
that he'll keep rotating the ones that he's done before,
because he he likes guess, he likes to do those,
you know, over and over again. But there are ones
that he hasn't done that often. And of course Tosca
is the one is always in rotation. He loves that one.
But uh, and I don't blame him, because God damn,

(01:17:53):
he's hot as casts as uh as Cavalidosi holy ship.
But uh, seriously, like every so often he'll like, like,
what is it? What is it? Next year? Next he's
he's going to do Partifal again at the the the

(01:18:13):
music festival that he's he's the artistic director of. Now
he's gonna do that. He's gonna do I think he's
gonna do Tristan. And he's old at the act two
of Tristan, he's old. Uh he's going to you know,
and he's so he's he's putting that back in his
rotation for next year, he's gonna yeah, like this time,

(01:18:33):
like this this winter, he's gonna do for the Destiny.
He hasn't done that in a while. He's going to
uh he's doing uh Palliaci this time, he's only only
doing Palliaci. But he's gonna do polyiachi this next year.
So he's kind of putting everything in rotation to keep

(01:18:55):
to a get to keep up, you know, to keep
up the uh the pace. You know, he's not gonna
add anything new. Like every once in a while he
will like you did with Peter Grimes, like he did
with uh, you know, like a few years ago with Tristan,
like he did with Atello. He's like, he's gonna add something,
you know, inevidently Joe Honda, he he had that this

(01:19:17):
past year. But he's going to he's gonna he got
a good repertoire now he can rotate. He can rotate
it every once in a while. And so it's it's
not like he's on the verge of retirement anytime soon.

(01:19:38):
You know. If he says, if his voice, if it's
the way he well, hopefully hopefully if his voice keeps,
if his voice holds out, uh, you know, he'll he'll
have a few more years in it. You know. If
his kid would stop bringing home every kind of disease
on earth from school, Uh oh, like that will ever happen.

(01:19:59):
That that means he would have to stop being a kid. Yeah,
that's true. The justness will just have to like wrap
himself up in bubble tape, bubble wrap or or bubble tape. Yeah,
rubble bubble tape, and he'll or or start uh or
start you know, eating uh eating that. Uh? What is

(01:20:22):
that airborne stuff that vitamins like candy? Airborne does help?
Hey we wait, hey, you know what, I may have
to stick that, you know, like when I when I
take that where take that where? When I take my
when I take the scarf to him next summer, I

(01:20:44):
may have to put the boxes Airborne in it. Yeah,
but I'll put it. I'll put a box of Airborne
in the in the bag and say here, just tell
him to do with the grandad with the dad on
my big factory wedding. Did put someone to ex on it?

(01:21:07):
A rottin let that tussin sink in that every time.
So I cannot take her potesten because I cannot stand
the taste of it. I have never been able to
stand the taste of it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Diamond half when I was a kid, delsim as an adult,
Mom takes ropotesten and every time she asks me for
a dose, I'll I'll come come in, just giggling, and
she knows I'm thinking of that Chris rock Ban because
she has seen that one do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
That's what I think of everything, she says.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
She says, that's literally how it was when they were
for most kids, when they were younger. Now, her mom,
my grandmother was a nurse, so that wasn't how shit
went down at their house.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
But yeah, she says, it's basically how it was. He's like,
so I'll be like, let that Tussin sink in there. Seriously,
But Grandma at the point, for those who don't know,
and I didn't really talk about, my mom had an
accident on the on the ninth and broke her ankle.

(01:22:10):
So she's been at a facility recovering. But when she
was in the hospital, we knew that there wasn't anything
wrong heartwise or anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
They put the boot on her and she goes, I
don't think they'll cast me. I'm like, yeah, they don't.
I'm like, yeah, but now that opens you to being
able to pour Tussin on it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
I got the new little ship. But that's a really
funny facial expression. And then she finally and then when
she said she was finally able to get robotuss and
I'm like what did they think you actually were going
to pour it on the broken boat, which, to be
her mom thought was hilarious. Now she's gonna come home,

(01:22:54):
she's coming home tuesday. Yay, you still got the boot on,
but she to day. Yeah, but seriously, like that, he's
he's you know, he needs to pour that tu Yeah,
he needs to put that tusson on his vocal hords.
But yeah, i'd i'd be tempted to buy him a

(01:23:17):
box of the Airborne so I can, ye just to
say I'm thinking of you and your and your and
your health here. You know, you have a you have
a school aged child now, so there's one for you
and one for your wife, and just help there might
you might be able to divide it up amongst your
elder your elder children, and your son in law too, yeah,

(01:23:42):
any in laws you might have. Good, Lord, just divide
it up good. Maybe maybe give give the kiddo some too.
There's there's a kid's form of Airborne, yeah there is.
But uh but like you know, just bottom line on

(01:24:05):
this whole bullshit is shut the fuck up, Angela Gjorgu,
keep my man's name out your fucking mouth, and uh
kiss your career, goodbye. Why the fuck you lieon what?
Mm hmmm, why you always lie? Lie? And oh my god,

(01:24:29):
stop fucking lying. Seriously, this this is just at this point,
it's ridiculous from her. Yeah, at this at this point,
she's trying, she's at this point, she's.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
A third class pack She's clinging to a lifeboat like
a third class passenger from the Titanic.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
In the water. Yeah, she's not there there. There is
literally nothing she can that will save her right now. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just going to serve to make her look worse.
There's no room on that person. That one person who.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Said they were going to explain why I was wrong
on that New York on that New York Times article
never came back.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
I think she forgot about me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Oh I feel I love Actually, I feel like that
proves I was right and she realized she's a fucking
dumb ass.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
But hey, that is why. That is why Folks, if somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Is being a dick about something like they make a
like a joke or something that's genuinely horrific, always say,
I don't get why it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Explain it to me like I'm five. Yeah, guarantee it'll
throw them the fuck off. Oh yeah, and that's exactly
what I said to that person. Explain it to me,
like I'm five, And they couldn't so well. They said
they were traveling and they'd explain when they get back.
Yeah mm hmm. Even my friend Virginia who you know,

(01:26:05):
saw that, who saw that? My who saw my comment,
and she said she her comment was, she sounds entitled
and awful. She doesn't watch opera, She just she just
knows about opera from me. Okay, she really is. But

(01:26:25):
even she, even a non opera listener, has said she
sounds entitled and awful. And if and if and and
you know, my friend Virginia is is a she's one.
She's she's a very smart lady. She is. She's a

(01:26:45):
very smart lady. And I know her and I know
her brother. She I went to school with her brother.
Uh but yeah, she it's like, yeah for her to
say this woman sounds the title and awful she is.
She is Virginia, She's entitled and awful. Uh but uh yeah,

(01:27:06):
for her to say that, that's saying that's you know,
you got you got people who don't even listen to
opera telling you they're saying that you're entitled titled an
awful bitch. Okay, she said, Oh I love how, I
love how the artist said that she's She addresses the
fact that many call it, many of people say that

(01:27:28):
she's difficult to work with. I wonder why, geez, you
ever wonder you ever think that maybe it's not that
it's the problem is it's not a them problem, it's
a you problem. No, because that will completely burst her
cognitive dissonance bubble. Yes, Oh, oh my god, I can't wait.

(01:28:00):
I seriously, I hope somebody asks Yonas about this whole
bullshit and he sits and he said. He finally sits
down and says, here's the god damn tea. Okay, here's
the tea. Oh my god. And that's the day that
Anna and I will stand well, wherever we are, we

(01:28:23):
will stand up and applaud that man. I mean, we
always do, we always do anyway, But still you like God, damn, yes,
God damn it, Yona's home run lord ah which which,

(01:28:46):
by the way, I have I I forgot because I
had forgotten. I told Anna this the other day. I
had bought myself a a uh magazine in French, just
an opera magazine in French, just for one article about
yaas because I could not, uh, because it would not
let me read the digital version of the magazine, so

(01:29:11):
I ended up buying the physical copy of it. It
finally came last week, and at first I'm like, what
the hell is this word? Oh it's in front. Oh
it's the magazine I bought. I'm teen weeks ago. So yeah,
but we have some. But after that, after the whole

(01:29:34):
this whole bullshit with Angela with invisible soprano with a
stick up her ass. Uh, we have some good news.
Invisible soprano on a steak on a steak. Yeah, man,
we have some Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
So from Christa's favorite city in the entire world. Yes,
Ficago Opera Theater to celebrate Puccini with unique concert. Yes
and Says Chicago Opera Theater is set to celebrate the
centennial of JACOBU. Puccini's death with bohem and Beyond the

(01:30:13):
Legacy of Puccini. The concert will highlight how Puccini's work
impacted the evolution of opera and musical theater and will
be performed at the Paul University's Gannon Hall at the
hol Schneider Performance Center on December seventh. The concert will
feature beloved arias and ensembles from Puccini's operas, alongside of
a variety of scenes from operas and musicals by composers
who were influenced by the great Italian composer, including Jules Massone.

(01:30:38):
So further incoming, Yeah, Friends, lehar Leos, Janachek, Eric Wolfgang,
corn Goold, Samuel Barbrow, Gian Carlo Menotti, Daniel Kattan, Juan Rowe,
Richard Rodgers, Yo sis On Him, Andrew Lloyd Webber, and
Adam Gettle. Guest artists include Jeffrey Augbol who's a tenor,

(01:31:01):
Terracy Canton soprano, Meghan Cassanders soprano, Yasuko Aura pianist and
musical director, Loriano Quand baritone, and Chasmine Williams Ali tenor.
General director Lauri Edilson will be joined by aclaimed dramator
Corey Ellison throughout the concert to provide insight into the
musical selections and the remarkable legacy of Puccini's work.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
I wonder if Chicago Opera Theater would be streaming that
or will put that online at some point, because I
would act. I would genuinely love to see that. Oh yeah,
let me see here. That sounds really fucking cool. Yeah,
let me see because there's no that's no let me
check here. Chicago Opera Theater they usually don't stream, but

(01:31:46):
let me see here. Let's see hellas it's like a
the Chicago Opera Theater is more like a grassroots opera
theater opera company. So it's it's not like the lyric.

(01:32:08):
Let's see well, I mean like or like even just
put it on YouTube or something. Yeah, let me see here.
Let's see and that's on a Saturday, so let's see here.
And it's on in December, yeah, December seventh, let's see,

(01:32:35):
just messing cot. Thanks Nancy Dumlow and the Morris and
Genius Morse Ingenious Operating Reserve Fund for the genuine generous
support of you know, it's graciously sponsored by Penelope or Steiner.
Let's see here. I don't see hmm, yeah, I don't

(01:32:56):
see here anything about them streaming it. Let's see here.
Patht Repertoire Senior Gay Ajor Gift for All. Let's see
what that is education for Oh, that's the education programs. Yeah,

(01:33:23):
that's that's it's this opera for all its Chicago Opera
Theaters comprehensive arts learning program for Chicago public school students
and inspire students to understand the art by participating it
within production and in performance. Nice. Yeah that Yeah, I
don't see anything, uh where there is going to be

(01:33:47):
a stream, but I'm sure we could, you know if
if yeah, there's a thing that is contact us. Let's
see here. Oh, let's see please see staffed director to
blow to breach. I mean it's not a big important thing. Yeah,

(01:34:12):
somebody put it online. It would be cool. Oh yeah,
but you know, like that that's something that but that's
something if you're in the Chicago area and yeah, go
see this because yeah, go see the thing. Yeah, so
you know it's I should really right in front of

(01:34:33):
my Puccini, I should say, yeah, it's like this should
this like Angela Orgu and all this bullsh is like
really right in front of Puccini's death anniversary? Come on,
you know, seriously, because it's the one hundredth universary of
Puccini keeling over. Uh that's why that's why Puccini take

(01:34:56):
it forever and app right here. Yeah, the old dirt
nap he took a big old dirt nap in nineteen
twenty four. This is the but yeah, it's but that. Yeah,
that that cluster. If you are if you are so

(01:35:16):
inclined with the you know, go to Topa De Paul
University's Gannon Hall and check that out. It's December seventh
at three pm. Go on the you should You can
go on the website, the Chicago Theater's website, which is
where did I just have that up? Why did I

(01:35:38):
do that? Uh? Okay, go to Uh it's Chicago Opera
Theater dot org, dot O RG, and uh it's under
let's see. Yeah, it's Chicago Opera Theater dot r G
slash BOM and beyond and uh and it tells like

(01:36:00):
the yeah, it's on the concert Hall is on uh
North Halstead Street in Chicago, so it's in Uh it's
in the heart of of Lincoln Park. So uh, go
ahead and go there if you are a if you

(01:36:21):
are one of our Chicago peeps listening, and uh check
the thing. Go check that out. Oh yeah, it proves
like it's gonna be awesome. Oh yeah, like look how
many Look how many people the other composers they mentioned
massin a corn gold. You know there's going to be

(01:36:44):
farther farther. Oh yeah, there's a far farther and uh
and uh mental further and Ho Deluxe, ye oh yeah,
because what they said that because Giovannas one time, he's
because he's done both versions, he's done, uh Massinet and Puccini,

(01:37:05):
and he said that whereas Massone wrote about the he
he wrote about the emotions behind mental uh he uh.
Puccini wrote that just did the narrative, like he didn't
include the emotion, uh, the emotions behind it. He just

(01:37:29):
he like he worked more on the narrative and the
character and the characters. But there were but he didn't
so much put any put the emotion behind it like
Massone did with with his version. But you know, like

(01:37:50):
there was no like, for example, there's no sense of
peace scene in uh in in Puccini's Ho Deluxe. But
but uh yeah no no uh no mental rippin' uh
uh no sloody Priest, Yeah no, no hot Priest. Yeah.

(01:38:15):
So the original Hot Priest. Yeah, the original Hot Priest.
Uh but uh yeah, so go ahead, go go check
that out and uh if you go to see that,
let us know about that. Yeah, you know, just drop

(01:38:37):
us a line and let us know all about that,
so we can uh either get you on here on
the show and and you can't tell us all about it,
or give us a rundown of what it was like
and we'll relay it to the audience. Yeah m hm.
So now that we have gotten done, now that we

(01:39:00):
have finished bitching, we want to thank you guys for listening.
A few weeks ago, we uh we noticed we had
forty downloads in one week. Yo, I couldn't believe that, Like,
forty fucking downloads in one week. Who's who's downloaded all this?

(01:39:24):
Thank you, whoever you are. Yes, thank you to everybody
who down who did those forty downloads. We we love
you to bits and pieces, we we do. But uh
but yeah, we we we appreciate your love and support.
And we promise we will uh we will get situated

(01:39:46):
and find ourselves an opera to watch. Uh yeah, we
do have some plans to do that, but uh, and
and you know we can't forget that. December eleventh is
when Maria comes on Netflix. So we're going to watch
that and and my yes we will, uh because it

(01:40:12):
looks amazing. We saw the for the fishing trailer forward.
It looks amazing. So we're gonna do that. We're gonna,
you know, we have that have that film festival over
the weekend, over that weekend, and uh but yeah we are,
We're gonna get into gear. But uh yeah, so we'll

(01:40:38):
keep you posted on what we're doing. But we but
in the meantime, keep spread the word about us, keep
tuning into our to the to the podcast on your
favorite platform, and uh and go to our Facebook page,
go to our merch store. I know we have an

(01:41:00):
updated anything. But buy our ship. Please please buy our ship.
Buy our ship, buy our ship please. Yes, uh yeah,
so we uh yeah, because we love you and we
want we still want to know who bought the bitch
Lasagna shirt. Yeah, we're still on the lookout for you.

(01:41:20):
Just look, just tell us. We just want to to
applaud you. Seriously. We're not gonna if you If you
want to remain anonymous to the rest of.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Just just let us know so we can privately applaud
you as well. You want to hear your props whether
or not you want them public. We are totally quo
with keeping you anonymous if that's what you would like. Yeah,
but we just want to applaud you again, give you,
give you props.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
For for buying it. Yeah, because that's the biggest, that's
the most that's the deepest inside joke I could ever
think of. Seriously, but uh, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
That's the running thread of all our podcast episodes since
I was like, who bought the bitch Lasagna T shirt?

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Yeah, No, one can say we don't have a common
thread in every episode, no, no, but but yeah, so yeah,
that's I mean, you know, buy our ship, keep supporting us,
keep loving us, because you know, we we love we
love that you love us, and we love you back.

(01:42:23):
But uh, just just hang in there. We'll let you
know what we're doing and uh, until next time, guys,
stay trash and we love you and we'll see you soon. Bye.