March 23, 2025 • 48 mins
What happens when childhood lessons go untaught, leaving us to figure out life's fundamentals through trial and error? In this raw and revealing conversation, Kenny joins the podcast to share his journey as a father determined to break generational cycles despite growing up without consistent male guidance.
Kenny opens up about his transition from barbering to pursuing an HVAC certification—a decision driven by his unwavering commitment to provide stability for his children. Working graveyard shifts, caring for his kids during the day, and attending school until 11pm, he embodies the sacrifices parents make to create better futures. "I just want to see my family happy," he explains, revealing how his priorities have shaped his career decisions.
The conversation takes a deeper turn when exploring the psychological impacts of inconsistent parenting. All three share personal stories of searching for validation in unhealthy ways and making conscious decisions to parent differently than they were parented. Kenny's powerful insight that "inconsistency can mess you up real bad" resonates throughout this discussion on identity formation and healing childhood wounds.
What makes this episode particularly impactful is the vulnerability with which these friends discuss their determination to give their children what they never had—consistency, communication, patience, and financial literacy. Kenny's metaphor of growing from a "watermelon seed" to a "whole watermelon" perfectly captures the personal growth that comes from facing life's challenges head-on.
Whether you're a parent working to break generational patterns or someone still processing your own upbringing, this conversation offers both comfort in shared experiences and hope that with commitment, we can create healthier futures for ourselves and those we love.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
inconsistency sucks.
Yeah, that really does suck.
That messed me up so much inthe head and I like to say when
I was growing up that it didn't.
But I was looking forvalidation, like from fighting
people, like not saying like afighting is cool, but I was
fighting people just to take outmy anger or whatever.
And then it was like where's myround of applause?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ladies and gentlemen, hold on, let me fix my mic
because I gotta give you anintroduction because whatever we
have to.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, guys, eric, are you talking?
All right, my introductionwe're gonna have an introduction
battle no damn what's thatwelcome to to the Other Half
Podcast.
You feel me we got a specialguest today.
What they say on that?
What's that?
Shoot, shoot, cool kicks.
We got a legend in the building.
We got a legend in the building.
(00:55):
But check it out, hey, pressingbuttons on the board.
But check it out, dog.
We got a great father, one ofmy very first clients, um my
brother, my dog, great friend, agreat friend um a crash out, a
real life crash out, barber.
(01:15):
Um hvac and a future hvac input.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
and I, employee owner , you feel me, you feel me, you
feel me, we speaking that in twothree, four, yeah, yeah, no, I
like that, I like that my boyKenny, yes, sir, my boy Ken,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He trigger happy today Hell yeah.
Yeah, welcome to the podcast.
Appreciate it, brother.
This is the first podcastyou've done.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm used to being in front of the camera.
I'm used to be behind thecamera.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So it is different.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And then you used to be behind.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, what?
Hey, welcome to the podcast man.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Hey, how's life in Arizona?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Life in Arizona is beautiful.
It's just been a strugglelately.
You know life's life.
But hey, you know, in this nextyear, this time next year,
hopefully you give me guys, youguys give me back in the podcast
(02:13):
, for sure life will becompletely different, for sure,
so no, but right now, you know,just living, living good, I
guess, and trying to survive.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's what's up?
How are?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
you everybody, I'm good today.
Today, yeah, based off the lastpodcast, I'm trying to.
You know it's crazy.
So after I watched it, it'skind of like, okay, I'm aware of
what I'm going through.
I'm fully aware that I'mpossibly depressed, I don't know
why.
But now I want to you know whatI mean.
It's like watching yourselfback.
So now I'm like, okay, I'mtrying to be in better spirits
(02:39):
and, yeah, I feel good today.
I'm just tired, that's what'sup, though tired every day I
hear it which kind of goes intoa wonderful today.
I'm just tired, that's what'sup though Tired every day.
I hear it, which kind of goesinto.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's wonderful, I'm never tired.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's a little hot today.
It is hot today.
It's too hot for this jersey.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And I'm wearing jeans , you decide to not wear a shirt
underneath.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I had to check right quick.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I had to check right.
Quick, man.
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Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, yes, read the card, man.
All right.
So today's card is parenting ishard.
What should your parents havetaught you when you were younger
?
I could talk about this all thetime, kenny go first.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Good, you want me to go first.
What they should have taught me, dang, this is how much I go in
my head.
I think patience is number oneFacts, because kids will push
you to that limit, even whenlife takes you to that limit.
So I'm kind of going throughthat right now.
Life is just, I kid you, notevery day.
(03:59):
It's like a left hook, but Iget right back up and handle my
business, but you know I'll gethit with some life stuff, get
home and then my kids push me tomy limit.
You know what I'm saying?
I step on a Lego.
You know what?
I'm saying I step on a Lego andthen my son has a blowout.
But you know I wouldn't tradeit for the world.
(04:21):
My kids are my number onepriority.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, I love that.
You know I wouldn't trade itfor the world.
My kids are my number onepriority.
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know.
But I think patience is numberone because I didn't expect I'm
not very much of a patientperson.
I'll be real with you, I'm justnot that patient.
So when it came to my kids, Ihad to get on my feet quick and
learn how to be patient, and Idid that.
So patience.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah how to be patient and I did that, so
that's so patient yeah, um, Ifeel like mine is a lot of
things, to be honest.
I just feel like we don't havea lot.
I know, I know my mom's like sowhat are you guys talking on
the podcast?
Are you talking about thefamily?
Um, I feel like for me it washow to not react so quickly.
(05:07):
That goes with anything kids.
I'm quick to be like who didthis?
You know what I mean.
And then I just assume with youtwo same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Just quick to react yeah, I done got cussed out for
something I didn't do by me,everybody, yeah, by me.
Huh, it was like april yeah,just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I feel like I just communication, actually, that's
like the major, major thing.
I feel like my family,especially coming from a
hispanic family, mexican familywe just don't know how to
communicate.
It's like if you get hurt, it'slike get up, walk, walk it off
that's what I remember hearing alot or get over it.
You know what I mean.
So just communication, learninghow to deal with certain
situations.
(05:55):
I just feel like I wasn'treally taught how to do that
that's real.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
alex me, I think it was I feel like finances.
I didn't grow up learning.
I mean I grew up without my dadand then I mean he's still not
around, but my mom raised mewhen I was 17.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
She didn't really know much.
Of course, now she knows a lotmore, but definitely finance it
how to save All that.
How to save, how to budget allthat.
It's harder when you learn itlater.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, Because you already have habits that you
formed.
That's like when I was tellingyou that my manager said that
her son, who's 18, turning 19 um, she already has him.
Every time he gets paid, theytake out 150 from his check and
save it for him but it's likeyeah, we weren't taught that.
We weren't taught about creditbank accounts credit especially.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, man, I learned credit like three years ago.
I'm almost 30, that's how I beyou know, you're still young.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
You're not even past your 30s.
No, I'm right on the edge ofglory man you seasoned.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I got two kids.
I feel old.
That boy seasoned.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm Lowry bang up, bang up, bang up the beer gonna
come eventually nah give it timegive it time give it time.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Oh my god, that's wild, that's crazy so how's
barbering treating you man?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
it's uh it's cool yeah barbering is one of those
things.
Like when I started it, Ididn't really care for it as
much I guess, no, it's not thatI didn't care for it.
I wanted to do something that Iwould be financially stable,
but over time it ended up beingsomething that fulfilled me in
other ways.
(07:53):
You know what I mean.
Like I'm out here talking tothe, the youth, and stuff like
that yeah, hold on, he's cuttingout right.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah.
Yeah, you had to talk into itmore.
Don't turn away.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, dang, okay, sorry.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Make sure they can hear you.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Cutting hair was just you know, it was one of those
things that just it fulfills menow but I didn't think it did
before.
I learned how to actually talkto people and have conversations
and stuff like that as a barber, so it's been cool, you know.
You know you was one of myfirst clients.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I was for sure I used to mess Kenny up dog.
Hey, not let it happen, but Imean he's talking like he didn't
have really good conversations.
He had great conversations.
Hold on, let me tell you how Imet Kenny.
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
He comes in the.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He tells the story all the time.
He would come in the shop.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He had a girl at the time.
Come in the shop she was likeyeah, I got a boyfriend, he
needs a haircut.
Can somebody do it?
I said I'll cut him, boy.
My boy came in the shop lookinglike Uncle Bernie.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Oh no, glasses.
High socks, shorts.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I think his shirt was red dog.
Ah yeah, one of my firstclients.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He was like this haircut's fire bro, I was
messing that fuck up.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, he was is that, uh, walmart days, when he used
to work at Walmart, you told meyou met him way before that that
was way before that dang thatwas a struggle too in my life
that's what he tells me when hemet you.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, y'all was in some stages of my life, y'all
saw some stuff, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I'm like y'all definitely.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Your grandfather right now?
Yeah, okay, no, we ain't.
We definitely saw that Shoutout.
I got a video actually whereI'm over here hyped in my car.
I'm in the beater.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
My car is like about to break down.
I'm like look at the face.
I remember that you used tohave some of the most
motivational videos I've everseen.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'll tell you I'm very supportive of all my
friends oh no, the one way Iremember here we go get some
nice butt.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
What he was like get a nice cut, get some nice butt.
He said come get a haircut, buty'all don't support local
businesses, so y'all ain't goingto come, so forget y'all.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I really was hot bro.
I know I was really hot bro.
That was a motivational talk,right through that turd left.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You don't understand, you don't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You don't understand.
So I started thinking about itas the video went.
So I was really hyped, I wasreally into it, just because a
lot of people told me, yeah, youknow what, I'm going to go to
you for this haircut.
And all these people justdisappeared.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
They never showed up again, is that the one where
you're in the mirror in the shopI'm hot and my hat says save
money.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I made no money.
Save money, walmart.
I got that video.
We don't need to show thesepeople, we ain't doing that.
You got to put that in there.
That's going to be in thecredits.
(11:04):
Nah, I ain't talking to y'allfor one whole week.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Put it in the end.
Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So what's today's topic, ma'am?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I don't really have like a specific topic.
I just had a bunch of questionsto talk about.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Go ahead, just do one yeah like even now.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I just wanted to know .
You know, I know that you'redoing um hvac, so how do you
feel like I think we have a lotwe've always talked about this.
I feel like we really a lot ofways like doing something that
maybe you thought was going tomake you happy and then it
wasn't, and you just feel like,okay, this is not the route I
want to go, let me do somethingelse yeah and is it just about
stability or is it also going tomake me really happy to do this
(11:46):
?
So I feel like, do you feel likewhat you're going for now is
what's really going to make youhappy, based off you know, or
rather than barbering?
Or like what made you decide todo that, besides barbering?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Like you mentioned, stability was like a really big
thing.
We'll start with the barberingthing.
Barbering is like somethingI've been wanting to do.
When I met Tino it was like,yeah, I want to do this.
And then he really he gave me myfirst pair of fast feeds.
I remember that I still gotthem.
They broke down, I still gotthem.
I still got them, though, andyeah, I don't know, like you
(12:25):
said, when I got into it it waskind of like I just wanted to
make some FU money, likewhatever it's.
Just I wanted to make somepaper, but then I ended up
falling in love with makingrelationships with people you
know, and then I actually metman.
I met Ken Griffey Jr.
Like who knew.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I would have met.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Ken Griffey man.
Look at that, you know what I'msaying.
Like I'm wearing I met KenGriffey man, look at that, you
know what I'm saying.
Like I'm wearing a mariner Igot Ken Griffey's over there.
Like I'm wearing Ken Griffey'sright now.
But, yeah, so I got to meetlike people.
I really looked up to growingup and I thought that was really
cool.
Like I said, I maderelationships, but with this
barbering thing I moved threetimes in three years.
(13:06):
So I would build clientele andthen lose my clientele, then
I'll build it again, break itdown again, build it one more
time.
My last time I moved back hereto Arizona.
I kind of found myself withoutmoney right away, but I had to
build clientele right away andthat doesn't go hand in hand
together.
So, um, you know, I was alreadynot making any money and I
(13:29):
couldn't find a job anywhere soI just said you know what?
I'm kind of tired of being inthis position.
I'm almost 30 years old andmaking nothing.
You know, all I'm kind of doingis paying for booth rent and my
phone bill and my rent, andit's just like it's too much so.
So I said you know what, let mejust look up what I could do
that I know will be sustainable.
Crazy thing about growing up inmy high school they never
(13:53):
brought up trade schools.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
They always brought up.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
They do it now though .
Yeah, I bet now, cause we're solike understaffed in trade
schools.
So anybody out there, Irecommend going to trade school.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Can you explain what a trade school is exactly?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
A trade school is basically a blue collar job and
like it's a job that would nevergo away.
So electricians, plumbing, hvac, that type of stuff,
construction, and the thing is,even when everything shuts down
in the world, we're still goingto need these people because
we're still going to need housesand stuff.
So, and when COVID happened, Ifound out like okay, you know,
(14:31):
barbers are kind of reliable, Ican really slide to people's
houses and stuff like that.
But it was very limited becauseeverybody was kind of scared to
die.
Yeah, but when I startedthinking about all this other
stuff and what came to be was Istarted after I left the
barbershop.
I did not know what to doanymore.
I didn't have a job and it waslike it caused problems at home
(14:56):
and I was like, you know, I needjust, I just need something to
happen.
And, of course, my kids areright there.
I'm looking at them like, yeah,you guys, you guys are hungry,
I got to get up and do something.
All eyes on you, right?
So it was like it became a loton my shoulders, so I decided to
do hvac.
Actually, I took a tour to thecollege as just like a whim.
(15:17):
I just passed the school and Isaw it trade school.
So I just busted you, went inthere and I was like, yeah, I
don't know if it'll work myschedule because I take care of
my kids all day.
So, um, they're like oh, we canwork around your schedule.
So if you guys, if you can comein at six o'clock, you'll get
out before midnight.
You just have it going on.
So I went in there.
(15:38):
I was like, okay, yeah, we canmake that happen.
I was like, but I just don'tgot no money right now.
They're like sixty dollars amonth and pull alone you're good
.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I was like yeah let's do it.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, right then.
And there um they.
So they got me through everyclass.
They got me through electricity, plumbing, car mechanics, and
then they put me in HVAC and forsome reason I was like yeah,
that's the one, yep.
That's the one.
I did it and, oh crazy thing,congratulations to me.
They gave me an opportunity totake my HVAC EPA license and I
(16:08):
passed that first try and Ididn't even graduate yet.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Oh, my God, you need a little applause button there.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's the wrong.
Oh, the mother button.
There's a crowd that applaudssomewhere in there.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Oh wait, hold on my fault, my fault, my fault.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The bird.
Oh my God, yeah, yeah,appreciate it, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I'm very motivated for this, but if I just dodge
the question, I came here forstability, but I realized that
this is going to make me happybecause I just want to see my
family happy.
You know, I think that's moreso what I'm doing all this for.
That's the reason why I didbarbering as well.
I love taking my kids to work.
That made me happy.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But I wasn't making no money, so it was a f**k wait.
Like it was flexible yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
But now, if I could just make money, yeah, I could
get whatever they want to make.
That yeah, because then youcould spend more time and
roaches.
Hell yeah, rats.
You know I am scorpion.
Go on, we saw a big grasshopperout here, we just ducked off oh
yeah, I'm scared ofgrasshoppers, of all all things.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
We ducked off.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, I'm scared of roaches.
But hey, you know, I'm gonna,I'm gonna get that thing.
He's gonna turn into the.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Terminator.
Hell yeah, orkin.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
My teacher said he saw a rat Like it almost bit him
.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
He had to grab that he had to, I said damn.
I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Are you doing that?
I don't know, mortal Kombat,maybe.
I don't know, mortal Kombat,maybe what I might have to just
chop it.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Oh my God, Are there rats here?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
They got to go somewhere, yeah they got to go
somewhere.
Yeah, but roaches are big outhere in Arizona man they grow
big sizes.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
In Texas they fly yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
They fly here.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, no, they're big in Texas and they fly.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
They're big and they fly at the same time.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And they got big rats .
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It's like New York.
I don't want to hear that, Justsaying I've lived everywhere.
We can go to the next subject.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
No, I just wanted to know because I feel like, yeah,
I can relate to that a lot Sick,but I think that's amazing.
Thank you.
Because sometimes one road isjust not.
One route's not the way to gooh, I got another story on that.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I really wanted to say freaking.
Uh, you guys invited me tochurch once.
This is before I left barberingand this is actually what kind
of motivated me quittingbarbering.
Um, the priest said he said godwill just make you go a path,
even though it's against thegrain, even though you do not
want to give it up.
You're gonna keep going downthat road.
(18:32):
He's not telling you to stop,but it just don't feel right
yeah man, until you go with, thegrain just gonna fall okay,
that's how I yeah we alreadyknow my story?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
yeah, because I didn't want to leave the store I
feel, like I'm like I, and evennow it's like I do miss what I
did, because I loved what I didyeah that wasn't the issue.
It was more of like when we weretalking about this last time,
I'm like I feel like I justbrought a lot of what was going
on in the store, though, with mehome and I would come home just
in a bad mood, or like I couldhave an okay day, but I would
(19:06):
come home and if there's my goldspoon in the sink, I'm mad.
You know what I mean.
So I just I realized it was thejob that was making me so
unhappy, but also just otherreasons that.
I don't really want to talkabout but but I did like the job
, so I didn't want to let it go.
Now I feel like a huge weighthas been lifted off my shoulder
because I am actually going touse my license.
(19:29):
But, it's that thing, too, whereto use my license.
But it's that thing, too, whereyou feel like, am I doing this
though, because I'm I know that,like he would want this for me,
or like what this would make usreally, really financially
stable, or am I gonna be happytoo, and I still don't know yet,
because I haven't gotten thatthat routine yet of waxing and
making money, and you know whatI mean yeah but I definitely am
(19:51):
seeing it now like I'm a lothappier, I wake up happier, I go
to work happier, it's just abetter feeling, um, but I don't
know.
I feel like god told me a longtime ago to close the door and I
wouldn't, and you would eventell me all the time yeah, but
yeah, I get it, yeah, I'm happyyeah.
I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, I'm happy for you too, dude.
That for sure was a big pivotin life for both of us, for sure
, and you holding it down toowas.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I forget, you Forget y'all.
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Because you just always seem to have it together.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Right, yeah, I think you hold pressure pretty well.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I do, but look, speaking of the pastor.
Hey, shout out, pastor Justin.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Today he was talking about your identity, and then I
know you grew up without yourdad.
I know you grew up without yourdad and I did too.
Yeah, but check it out, he was.
He was talking about identitiestoday, about identities today,
and he was like there's so manydifferent identities that you
(20:55):
could have based on how you grewup or whatever how life has
treated you.
However it may be, um, but it'scrazy because we see so many
like, even in a barbershop, wesee so many kids that are like
oh, I gotta be this because myparents told me I have to be
this and this, this and this,and it's like you don't.
Yeah, you know what I mean, butI realized that as a kid I grew
up.
You know, my mom always workedall the time.
(21:18):
I grew up thinking that it washard for me to be confident.
It was hard for me to feel likesomeone wants me.
You know what I mean, becausemy my goal in life was to be a
father, so he was talking abouthow.
He was talking about how.
Basically, what is youridentity and why did it become
(21:43):
this?
And it was because, like youknow, when I was younger, I
didn't have confidence.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
mean.
So he was talking about thattoday and I was like yeah, it
hit home a lot, but I didn'thave confidence because I felt
like my father wasn't you knowwhat I mean?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
a lot of stuff.
I knew that from my father yep,but it was.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It was a pretty good day it was fire.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Sad I missed him.
It was fire though.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I know I thought about it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I was like I really wanted to but you already know
my schedule busy right now.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, hey, my boy Andre was there.
Well, good thing it's onYouTube, yeah, so catch it, I'll
definitely catch it, that'scool.
Yeah, no, it was a good messagebecause it talked about a lot of
stuff we've been talking abouttoo Mental health and stuff and
just feeling not, not worth it.
Or like you just yeah, it'strue, not worth it.
(22:32):
Or like you, just yeah, it'strue.
It's kind of like the questionwe started with like you know,
what could you, what could yourparents have taught you when you
were younger, that would helpyou live life happily and
successfully nowadays.
So now it's like we go throughstuff and we don't know how to
handle it.
Or we don't know how toemotionally react, we don't know
how to communicate.
On top of that, we don't knowhow to save.
We don't know right it's a lotof stuff and then be a parent,
(22:54):
but yeah, just which one lost mytrain thought huh, which one do
you think you were?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
he said the one that was the broken mirror, broken
mirror.
Broken mirror was you're likegoing through stuff.
You only let people decide.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, I hear you, you know what I mean.
I get you what other ones werethere, the other one was.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So the first one was no identity.
That was me.
No identity because when I wasa kid, I felt like I didn't have
an identity.
I didn't know how to do this, Icouldn't think for myself,
whatever my homies were doing, Iwould do it.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
So how are you able to do that now?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Because no one would ever guess that, knowing you,
because when I turned 18, no,when I turned 18, all the way
until 22, I was like that Wentout there and visited my brother
.
He made me confident and then Imet my wife.
Aww.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I was gonna say so, cedric.
Oh f*** he pressing the wrongbutton.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I like this so much yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I just feel like no one I mean, I don't know any
things, but I just feel like noone would ever guess that
Because you are super confident,you know how to save.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So when I went out there at first I was like he
gave me confidence, but it wastoo much, so I had to do that
yeah.
Because, if you know my brother, he's confident.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Shout out to Cedric.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Cedric is confident.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Oh, my God, I got Shout out my brother.
He's like super duper confident.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I don't really got stories on him, but every time I
was out he was out, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That's how we met, because he was out, I'm telling
you?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
No, that's how it was , though, and then you know, I
met you and got humbled a little.
You know, mm-hmm, you know howdo you say that, that you know
why no, I don't, I was just, itwas just like I seen, I don't
know, I was just humbled.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know we went through stuff that okay, in our
life not in our relationshipnecessarily, no, just in our
life.
Yeah, you know, well, we bothhad nothing.
Yeah, we got evicted but I was.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That was the first mirror at church right.
First one was no identity.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Second was like I guess it was like a misguided
identity, right yeah, well, justeveryone telling you that you
should do this, you should dothat right, instead of what
really makes you happy.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's like your friends.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And then the last one , or the, the second, the third
one was the broken one and thefourth one was the perfectly
fine mirror.
That one, it's where you'resupposed to be oh, okay, you
know.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, I definitely relate with no identity, that's
for sure, for sure for sure?
Yeah, I definitely wassurrounded by a lot of people
that I shouldn't have been yeahyou know and I just try to
please them realize like, oh,dang, I'm not happy.
Oh, okay, let me go here, thenyou know.
Like you said, though, it'slike by the time I hit like 23,
24, I started realizing like, oh, I know who I am, yeah, but
(26:05):
like I've come so far, now Igotta rearrange my life right,
yeah, I feel you yeah that'swhere I'm at, like 36 and still
fit.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I I'm still figuring it out, are you?
36.
I know y'all.
Oh, bro, I know.
So, if anything it's, it's me.
Yeah, I'm still figuring it out.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's fine.
That's most people in thisworld anyway, I figured it out
now you know right, instead of55 facts I know bro, I know a.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I know a dude.
That was when I first movedhere in the barbershop.
He was like 50 something.
He's like man ain't nobodytrying to put me on from chicago
.
They ain't trying to put you onout here.
I'm like bro, put you on thewhat you're 50, bro.
Like you're trying to be in thestreets.
Still, what are you talkingabout?
He was dead serious trying tobe in the streets.
He's like they ain't trying toput me on, bro.
(27:00):
Well, you are three days awayfrom a seizure or a coma or
whatever.
Like you're old, bro, a badcough away, bad cough away.
Exactly, you catch covid, youmight.
You gotta stay in the house foronce.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's one thing about Arizona.
Arizona got too many peoplethat are not from Arizona.
That's facts.
You might step on the wrongtoes without even knowing.
Yes, that's true, you might saygood morning, and somebody
would tell you like what thatmean.
I was at Winco I said nah, I'mstraight.
I was talking to the mother ofmy children.
(27:34):
I was like nah, I'm straight.
This lady says you're not fromhere.
Huh what.
I said what do you mean she'slike we don't say that here?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I said okay.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I was like I'm confused and she's like we just
don't say that.
And then turned around andwalked around, walked away.
I was like, okay, damn, arizonais different.
She must have took it that oldlady was about to slide you.
No, no, she was.
She said it with a smile.
I was just confused.
I was looking at her like whatthat mean but then again, you
know, you never know.
Throw you down the aisle.
(28:05):
You never know, man but do youfeel?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
like you've had.
You've been able to have moregrowth being in arizona like
definitely would you recommendliving in Arizona.
I would definitely.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But if you're very small-minded, don't come here.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Unless you want to build who you are as a human
being and your career, do it andfeel the pressure.
Right, because you'redefinitely going to feel the
pressure.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yes, because there's so many successful people around
you and it feels like everybodyis trying to do something.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I think Arizona is the third best state to become a
millionaire, or third statewith the most millionaires that
start their own business.
I think that's a statistic.
I could be wrong, though.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
My boy says it's a statistic.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I got a little bit of my fault Statistic.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You got me saying it wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, man, yeah, if you want to move out here, just
know there's pressure to it, butyou could definitely become
successful.
Facts I married a fewmillionaires and that's just by
walking in the street.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Streets.
I was trying to get put onFacts.
Trying to get put on bro Facts.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
He's like the pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'm Will Smith Dang.
I do got a question for you,though.
You mentioned that you didn'tgrow up with a father, and how
did that help you become thefather you are today?
Because I see your kids happy.
My kids are mean.
(29:37):
Yeah, they are.
Yeah, for sure April, for sureman.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No, you got to get to a point where it's like what do
you want in life, right?
And most of us who didn't growup with a father the pastor was
talking about this today Shoutout, pastor, justin, how you
dang.
I just lost my train of thought.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I know you're going to have to cut you grow up right
With without a father, and thenBasically, you grow up without
a father, so you may havesomebody else in your life that
is trying to be that fatherfigure for you, or it could be
your friends you know, and thenthey lead you down the wrong
path or they tell you what youshould be doing with your life
and then you just never reallyfigure out who you are, because
(30:23):
you're living off of everybodyelse's opinion of what you
should be doing so for me it was, I should have went to church
today
Speaker 2 (30:29):
yes, it was, I should have went to church.
I almost crip walked, but no,it was, uh, I think, growing up
without a father.
I wanted to be a father since Iwas a kid, and when you want to
be a father, you just that'syour goal.
You know what I?
mean whatever happens, happenslike I know cutting hair is cool
.
Being a father, as long as mykids can have everything they
want, I'm good.
(30:49):
Yeah, like I don't care whathappens as long as my kids are
happy.
Yeah, that that was mydeterrent, like that's what made
me want to be a better father,giving my kids whatever they
wanted.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
That you didn't have Just doing everything I didn't
have.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean, because I got other
siblings.
Their father wasn't in theirlife.
You know what I mean, so I haveto do what I can for them as
well.
But then, you have people alsowho grew up with both fathers,
or you got people in your lifethat grew up with both people in
their family, in your.
You know both your parentsrewind, rewind you got people in
(31:33):
your life like do you?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
you have people that have no oh, that's not what I'm
saying.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
This is right this is the problem right here.
You got people in your liferight, so you have both parents.
Sometimes, when you have bothparents, you don't accept
responsibility the same becausethey're like, oh, I'll do this
for you, I'll do this for you.
So you have to learn somehowhow to get responsibility right
when you don't have a father.
It's like I have to do this orelse it's not going to work.
(32:02):
I have to be better than thisperson or it's going to be worse
.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's how it.
That's how I look at itsometimes, because I know plenty
people both of their parents intheir life.
They're they're, they feel likethey're.
What's the word when you'relike you have everything
entitled, they feel entitled.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
They feel privileged.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
They feel like they don't need to work for other
people but those same people, ifthey're a single child or only
child, they're always afraid tohave kids.
And that's insane to me becauseyou know when you have siblings
, you grow up sharing, you growup knowing what it's like to
fight with your sibling and allthat.
I cut some people and they'reafraid to have kids Damn.
(32:47):
So I'm more happy that I didn'tgrow up with a father than
ending up like some people likethat.
I hear that Because I feel likea lot of people are afraid of
pressure.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, or they don't handle it well, I am.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Pressure sucks.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yes, I am, it pushes your limits.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You got to know you're going to be good, though,
right.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
But if you don't have the confidence, that's
something I've always struggledwith.
I don't always have theconfidence, like people think I
do, to do something.
That's why, for me, being awaxer, I don't really like to
have conversations as much as Ilike to talk.
I don't really know how to haveconversations with people.
I'm not a people person Like youknow what I mean.
(33:30):
So for me it's like that'sscary.
It's scary when I think aboutit every time, that I think
about me going into waxing again, that I'm going to have to have
again, that I'm gonna have tohave, I'm gonna have to form
relationships.
And how am I gonna likeseparate, being fake and being
genuine, because they can seethat a mile away.
But if you're not somebody thatis like that, that likes to be
a people person or formrelationships, that's, it's
(33:53):
tough, it feels like pressure,it's like, okay, that's when I'm
saying like am I doing itbecause of the money and because
I'm good at it, or is it allthree?
I feel like you do.
I feel like you have to fake itall the time.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
This is why people be like oh, I think so-and-so is
going to win, or I'm a big Lakerfan, or I support whatever
president I support.
I'd be like that's what's up.
And then I move on to the nextsubject.
Yeah, but I'd be like, oh yeah,oh, that's crazy.
Anyways, you just got to, butno, when you get in the field
and you start finding the people, or people start finding you
(34:29):
that want to find you, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's wonderful Like you cut hair before you find
people.
That's cool.
I definitely found my littlegroup of people.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
They're really cool.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Facts, but Yep yes.
Really cool Facts, but thatcomes with time too.
Like he mentioned too, he wasjust in it, just to be in it,
and then he learned to love it.
That's how I was too.
I was kind of just like I wantmy money.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, I feel like that's me.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I just wanted to go to work, just to talk to the
people.
Facts.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I know that's a weird thing to say.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I know you can make it easier on yourself.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
It doesn't feel like work after a while yeah, it
definitely didn't I have gooddays every day I know you always
say that I'm just cutting hairman he always says that and I'm
just like I don't have bad daysI know I, I don't know how it's
just.
It's just who I am it's a goodlife, like the other day he said
.
He said what did you me?
You're like, what do you wantto do?
You asked me what I want toaccomplish or whatever.
(35:25):
I was like I don't know.
Then I said what do you want toaccomplish?
Literally, you said I've doneeverything that I wanted to do.
I've lived my life.
Now I'm just worried.
I'm focused on what you need todo To get Like.
I've lived my life.
Now I'm just worried.
I'm focused on what you need todo so to get to that point.
That is the goal.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I want to get to that point.
Yeah, you'll get thereeventually, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, you'll get there.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
All right, I got a question for you Because in the
group chat you know the groupchat me, Liddell Tez, Darius,
all them guys, Shout, guys,shout out to group chat.
Shout out to group chat brandonall them, my cousins, joe.
Um, a lot of us didn't grow upwith fathers, so there was a
question one time and we were.
(36:10):
We had some conversations.
It was like who had it worse?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
oh, it was bad right.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
but it got to a point where, like, do you Taz asked a
question?
Do you think it's better foryour parent to have never been
there in the first place, likelet's say they passed away, or
do you think it's better if theycome in and then they leave?
You know what I mean.
If they're just inconsistentBoth of those?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's a good question, yeah we all three here
are something yeah yeah, so, um, yeah, my little situation is
weird with my parents, but, um,inconsistency sucks, yeah, that
really does suck.
That met, that messed me up somuch in the head and I like to
say when I was growing up thatit didn't.
But I was looking forvalidation, like from fighting
(37:00):
people, like not saying like afighting is cool, but I was
fighting people just to take outmy anger or whatever.
And then it was like where's myround of applause, right?
Where's my homies saying goodjob, right.
But it was like why?
And now that I'm older, it'sjust all of it sounds so stupid,
but it sounds so stupid.
(37:26):
But, like I said, what happenedwith me or my parents?
Anyway, they split up and theyjust had their relationship and
they kind of just held grudgesversus each other, right, how?
old were you when they split up?
When they split up, I was aboutone or two Dang.
Yeah, okay, that's kind of likeGrowing up.
My dad tried, right, my dadtried With the phone call.
I never saw his face.
I couldn't put a face to thevoice, right, but like my mom
would talk good about him andthen bad about him.
And then I'll be on the phonewith my dad and then he'll talk
(37:49):
good about my mom but then badabout my mom, right?
So I'm confused, like whichside am I on?
But the whole time they're,they got this little revenge
thing going on, but I'm in themiddle.
It was kind of it kind of feltlike they were looking at each
other but never at me, right,you know it's like, but it is
what it is.
Now, now that I'm older, my mama, my mama knows like, hey, you
know, like I'm sorry thathappened, right, I really am
(38:11):
like I just want to take care ofyou now, right, but, and the
whole time I'm trying to takecare of her, like that's what
this whole age back thing is tooabout.
That's cool.
But, um, also, my dad came backin my life.
He don't live too far from here, live like an hour from here,
and he's like I told him, um, Ijust want him in my kid's life
now, since he got taken, since Iwas taken away, right, I just
(38:31):
want you in my kid's life right,and he's all on board.
So I think it came around fullcircle.
Yeah, that's for sure, but Idefinitely had to check my
parents.
Oh yeah, you know what I'msaying, like my kids now are on
a pedestal, they're never goingto have to go through anything
like that, even if me and themother of my children do go
through something.
If that were to happen, we'restill going to be cordial with
(38:55):
our kids, that's for sure.
Yeah, um, do you feel like he's?
consistent with them, um, asmuch as you would like him to be
, as much as I would like him tobe, just because, um, like I
said, I got a busy scheduleright now so even if you tried
ways, yeah, even if you tried Iwouldn't be able to let you in,
you know, but like when he, whenthere's opportunity, it happens
(39:15):
yeah that's cool.
I'm very proud of.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
That's cool.
I'm very proud of it, that'scool.
Yeah, I think I dealt with alot of inconsistency, but I do
think, as far as like, if myparent were to pass away at a
younger age, I feel like youwould always look at that as
like the reason to do better.
But for us it's like theinconsistency sometimes.
(39:38):
Or I know, for me it was likethe inconsistency sometimes.
Or I know, for me it was likemy dad just show up, then he not
for a long time, and then youtry to show up again and I'm
like, bro, the older you get,the worse it gets.
So I think it would have beeneasier had you dealt with a
parent that passed away, becauseit's like, oh, I'm gonna do
better for this person, I'm todo better for this person, I'm
(39:58):
going to do better for thisperson.
My dad would be happy, my dadwould be.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, but then you have aparent that's living and they're
doing terrible by you.
So it's tough, yeah, definitely, but I think, I don't know,
it's a rough one.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
That is a rough one.
Just to add context to thatquestion if your parent were to
die, in what context would it belike?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
You already don't like that parent or you like
that parent.
I'm at an age where I wouldn'tcare.
Okay, I hear you and thatsounds messed up, but it's to
the point where I'm at peacewith the situation.
This is who you are, this iswhat you do.
I'm cool with the point whereI'm at peace with the situation.
This is who you are, this iswhat you do.
I'm cool with that.
But I'm not going to allow that.
Right, I accept you for who youare.
I'm not going to allow thatfrom my kids.
(40:50):
Yeah, I'm not bringinginconsistent people around my
kids, and that's because I'veseen what it's done to me.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I mean, and that's inconsistency can mess you up,
it does bad, bro, real bad.
And I mean even you know Ericasees it all the time.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
So yeah, that's why.
Yeah, that's why theirbiological father is not in
their life.
And I had to make that toughdecision because I think about
it every day like, am I reallydoing the right thing by keeping
him from them, or am I doingwhat's right?
I talk to Avery about this allthe time because I'm like
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sometimes I feel like I'msupposed to be.
You know, like when I thinkabout God, I'm like I'm supposed
to be.
I'm supposed to love everybodyand forgive everybody, and I
don't know that I've everforgiven him.
And he was like well, you know,you could forgive people and
just not deal with them, but Ido that so much already.
That's why I don't really havea lot of people around me,
(41:53):
because I do that, I forgive,and then I'm like okay, but I
don't want you around me.
So with the kids, it's like Ididn want consistent
inconsistency in their life,because he did that when they
were just one, and two, and thatthat's when I met avery, um,
and now that they're gettingolder, I'm sure that they're
getting more curious because, um, it's like my situation, me
(42:14):
wanting to know who my mom was,who my real father was.
You know, I wanted to know whoI looked like.
They're gonna be curious andwant to know so but see with me,
it's like my real well, not myreal father, but my real father.
Yes, he exists, but he's never.
He's not around.
I've never met him.
Then it's like I had a fatherthat supposedly raised me till I
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was three and then he passedaway.
Never knew him.
That doesn't affect me at all Idon't feel anything for it, just
like I don't feel anything formy father, who is alive but he's
not around.
Then I only had a mom, but mymom had to work three jobs, go
to school.
Barely saw her, barely saw her,not because she didn't care, but
(42:56):
because she was trying toprovide and take care of us.
So for me I feel like um I thatreally affected me a lot.
I think certain situationsaffect you in different ways and
different reasons.
Y'all have very similarsituations of why and
inconsistency I see with my, mydaughter's father.
That's why I don't want that intheir life, but also because I
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didn't have that consistencyalso, I didn't have a father
figure.
That's why I looked for love inboys.
That's why you know what.
I mean, so you make really baddecisions when you don't have a
father around at all.
As a woman, I think it's justyou look for love in in all the
wrong places and then having aparent that's always working all
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the time, and, yeah, I wouldjust kind of do whatever I
wanted.
I have a father to put his footdown and tell me, hey, you need
to come home, or you know whatI mean.
So I think either way it'sstill bad.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I I feel like it's just as bad, age back is cool,
it's so cool.
I met some really cool peoplethat, uh, they're not gonna let
me fail.
There's a couple times where Iwas like I can't do this anymore
, I'm done, I can't do it.
I can't do it, no more.
My schedule starts at 1 to 2 amand ends at 11 pm.
(44:12):
Repeat, so I only go to sleep.
I go to sleep at like 1130 andthen wake up at 1 30.
Repeat my whole day again forseven days a week.
Wait 11 30 am, 11 30 pm andthen I wake up at 1 30 am and
why I'm telling you?
because I, uh, I go to work atin the morning I do a graveyard
(44:35):
shift and I get off around like9 or 10 and then take care of my
kids all day until like 5.30.
And then I go to school from 6to 11.
Get home around 11.30.
Try to go to sleep as soon as Itouch down.
That never happens.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
How long do you have to do that for?
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I do that for about I do that until July, end of July
, but I do that every day, aboutsix or seven days a week.
So you graduate in July, end ofJuly Are you going to have an
actual graduation.
Yeah, that's what they said.
I just man, I just hope it's abig ceremony.
I saw videos, but videos arelike in California like.
Nevada like where's Arizonastuff I want to see?
(45:14):
I see one Arizona ceremony.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Is y'all class big?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
It's about to be what ?
Arizona ceremony yeah, is y'allclass big it's about to be.
So what does that mean?
So we got to pass a prereq.
So it'll be like two classeswhich will be like two months,
and then you go into a biggerclass and you kind of merge with
another class.
Luckily, the class that wemerged with was only like four
people, so it became a totallike eight to ten people.
Yeah, the class that's rightbehind us next month is going to
(45:42):
join us and that was like anadditional ten, so it's going to
be a whole big class.
That kind of sucks, because thesmaller classes meant more
hands-on.
Now we're just going to bedoing rotations, now I'm just
going to be waiting.
It's like okay, can I touchthose refrigerant or not?
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Dang you working on a refrigerator, fix my
refrigerator I can do that.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Or microwave.
I can do that.
I'm EPA certified.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Certified.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
But just think about it.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
So after what?
July?
Yeah, you'll be able to, justit'll be so different.
Yeah, way different the rest ofyour future is going to be
exactly what you want it to be.
All the hard work will pay off.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
It's going to sound like this no, I seriously like.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
I commend you so much because there's not a lot of
fathers that would do whatyou're doing at all.
Like you need to be.
I've told you this before, butyou really do need to be proud
of yourself.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
I really am.
I be proud of yourself.
I really am.
I wasn't at first and I waslike man, why'd I quit?
I quit barbering.
You know, when you're lookingat myself in the mirror like man
, I want to break this mirrorright now.
I can't believe I did that.
You're sick, huh?
I'm licensed in two states,still, still the only person got
a license in washington.
I still got a license inwashington.
(46:57):
Why you don't want to go back?
I'm never going back.
Never, it's too small, like Isaid.
Back to the mindset thing whenI was living over there my mind
was like a watermelon seed.
Now I'm out here, wholewatermelon.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
You know what I'm saying he's a whole watermelon,
a whole watermelon that boygrown it up, the big one's, not
the little small one.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
That I'm telling you I'm thinking different now.
I'm not thinking small anymore.
Facts.
That's just how I am.
I love that, but I'll nevermove back to Iowa.
That's not the plan.
I never heard anybody say that,that they would do that.
Facts I never, heard anybodysay they would do that.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Facts Mm-mm.
Well, all right, it's aboutthat time, cuz.
Oh man, thank you for having me, buddy, it's about that time,
thank you.
Thank you, man, you know,appreciate you.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Hopefully I get back on the podcast in like a year or
two.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
A year or two in progress.
Yeah, we want to know whereyou're at.
You know that'll be season likethree for us.
Hold up in a Hellcat.
Maybe We'll see though.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Okay, lambo Lewis, whatever, all right.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Well, that's the end of this video.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Podcast, whatever.
Hey, I've been doing YouTubeall day.
I know I've been doing YouTubeall week, so I'm used to saying
video.
The end of this podcast.
Anything you want to say, ma'am?
Speaker 3 (48:14):
No, just thank everybody for watching.
If you guys have anysuggestions for anything you
want us to talk about, let usknow as you can see.
We're very open, so yeah, thankyou, kenny.
Thank you so much for having meyou're very inspiring and I
really appreciate you and welove you so subscribe and follow
the podcast, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
You ain't even gotta like it, no more.
I'm asking y'all to do too much, so alright, catch y'all in the
next one.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Bye, peace, peace, peace Peace.
inconsistency sucks.
Yeah, that really does suck.
That messed me up so much inthe head and I like to say when
I was growing up that it didn't.
But I was looking forvalidation, like from fighting
people, like not saying like afighting is cool, but I was
fighting people just to take outmy anger or whatever.
And then it was like where's myround of applause?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ladies and gentlemen, hold on, let me fix my mic
because I gotta give you anintroduction because whatever we
have to.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Okay, guys, eric, are you talking?
All right, my introductionwe're gonna have an introduction
battle no damn what's thatwelcome to to the Other Half
Podcast.
You feel me we got a specialguest today.
What they say on that?
What's that?
Shoot, shoot, cool kicks.
We got a legend in the building.
We got a legend in the building.
(00:55):
But check it out, hey, pressingbuttons on the board.
But check it out, dog.
We got a great father, one ofmy very first clients, um my
brother, my dog, great friend, agreat friend um a crash out, a
real life crash out, barber.
(01:15):
Um hvac and a future hvac input.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
and I, employee owner , you feel me, you feel me, you
feel me, we speaking that in twothree, four, yeah, yeah, no, I
like that, I like that my boyKenny, yes, sir, my boy Ken,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He trigger happy today Hell yeah.
Yeah, welcome to the podcast.
Appreciate it, brother.
This is the first podcastyou've done.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm used to being in front of the camera.
I'm used to be behind thecamera.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So it is different.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And then you used to be behind.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, what?
Hey, welcome to the podcast man.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Hey, how's life in Arizona?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Life in Arizona is beautiful.
It's just been a strugglelately.
You know life's life.
But hey, you know, in this nextyear, this time next year,
hopefully you give me guys, youguys give me back in the podcast
(02:13):
, for sure life will becompletely different, for sure,
so no, but right now, you know,just living, living good, I
guess, and trying to survive.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's what's up?
How are?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
you everybody, I'm good today.
Today, yeah, based off the lastpodcast, I'm trying to.
You know it's crazy.
So after I watched it, it'skind of like, okay, I'm aware of
what I'm going through.
I'm fully aware that I'mpossibly depressed, I don't know
why.
But now I want to you know whatI mean.
It's like watching yourselfback.
So now I'm like, okay, I'mtrying to be in better spirits
(02:39):
and, yeah, I feel good today.
I'm just tired, that's what'sup, though tired every day I
hear it which kind of goes intoa wonderful today.
I'm just tired, that's what'sup though Tired every day.
I hear it, which kind of goesinto.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's wonderful, I'm never tired.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's a little hot today.
It is hot today.
It's too hot for this jersey.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And I'm wearing jeans , you decide to not wear a shirt
underneath.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I had to check right quick.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I had to check right.
Quick, man.
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Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, yes, read the card, man.
All right.
So today's card is parenting ishard.
What should your parents havetaught you when you were younger
?
I could talk about this all thetime, kenny go first.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Good, you want me to go first.
What they should have taught me, dang, this is how much I go in
my head.
I think patience is number oneFacts, because kids will push
you to that limit, even whenlife takes you to that limit.
So I'm kind of going throughthat right now.
Life is just, I kid you, notevery day.
(03:59):
It's like a left hook, but Iget right back up and handle my
business, but you know I'll gethit with some life stuff, get
home and then my kids push me tomy limit.
You know what I'm saying?
I step on a Lego.
You know what?
I'm saying I step on a Lego andthen my son has a blowout.
But you know I wouldn't tradeit for the world.
(04:21):
My kids are my number onepriority.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, I love that.
You know I wouldn't trade itfor the world.
My kids are my number onepriority.
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know.
But I think patience is numberone because I didn't expect I'm
not very much of a patientperson.
I'll be real with you, I'm justnot that patient.
So when it came to my kids, Ihad to get on my feet quick and
learn how to be patient, and Idid that.
So patience.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah how to be patient and I did that, so
that's so patient yeah, um, Ifeel like mine is a lot of
things, to be honest.
I just feel like we don't havea lot.
I know, I know my mom's like sowhat are you guys talking on
the podcast?
Are you talking about thefamily?
Um, I feel like for me it washow to not react so quickly.
(05:07):
That goes with anything kids.
I'm quick to be like who didthis?
You know what I mean.
And then I just assume with youtwo same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Just quick to react yeah, I done got cussed out for
something I didn't do by me,everybody, yeah, by me.
Huh, it was like april yeah,just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I feel like I just communication, actually, that's
like the major, major thing.
I feel like my family,especially coming from a
hispanic family, mexican familywe just don't know how to
communicate.
It's like if you get hurt, it'slike get up, walk, walk it off
that's what I remember hearing alot or get over it.
You know what I mean.
So just communication, learninghow to deal with certain
situations.
(05:55):
I just feel like I wasn'treally taught how to do that
that's real.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
alex me, I think it was I feel like finances.
I didn't grow up learning.
I mean I grew up without my dadand then I mean he's still not
around, but my mom raised mewhen I was 17.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
She didn't really know much.
Of course, now she knows a lotmore, but definitely finance it
how to save All that.
How to save, how to budget allthat.
It's harder when you learn itlater.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, Because you already have habits that you
formed.
That's like when I was tellingyou that my manager said that
her son, who's 18, turning 19 um, she already has him.
Every time he gets paid, theytake out 150 from his check and
save it for him but it's likeyeah, we weren't taught that.
We weren't taught about creditbank accounts credit especially.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, man, I learned credit like three years ago.
I'm almost 30, that's how I beyou know, you're still young.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
You're not even past your 30s.
No, I'm right on the edge ofglory man you seasoned.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I got two kids.
I feel old.
That boy seasoned.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm Lowry bang up, bang up, bang up the beer gonna
come eventually nah give it timegive it time give it time.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Oh my god, that's wild, that's crazy so how's
barbering treating you man?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
it's uh it's cool yeah barbering is one of those
things.
Like when I started it, Ididn't really care for it as
much I guess, no, it's not thatI didn't care for it.
I wanted to do something that Iwould be financially stable,
but over time it ended up beingsomething that fulfilled me in
other ways.
(07:53):
You know what I mean.
Like I'm out here talking tothe, the youth, and stuff like
that yeah, hold on, he's cuttingout right.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah.
Yeah, you had to talk into itmore.
Don't turn away.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, dang, okay, sorry.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Make sure they can hear you.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Cutting hair was just you know, it was one of those
things that just it fulfills menow but I didn't think it did
before.
I learned how to actually talkto people and have conversations
and stuff like that as a barber, so it's been cool, you know.
You know you was one of myfirst clients.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I was for sure I used to mess Kenny up dog.
Hey, not let it happen, but Imean he's talking like he didn't
have really good conversations.
He had great conversations.
Hold on, let me tell you how Imet Kenny.
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
He comes in the.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He tells the story all the time.
He would come in the shop.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He had a girl at the time.
Come in the shop she was likeyeah, I got a boyfriend, he
needs a haircut.
Can somebody do it?
I said I'll cut him, boy.
My boy came in the shop lookinglike Uncle Bernie.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Oh no, glasses.
High socks, shorts.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I think his shirt was red dog.
Ah yeah, one of my firstclients.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He was like this haircut's fire bro, I was
messing that fuck up.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, he was is that, uh, walmart days, when he used
to work at Walmart, you told meyou met him way before that that
was way before that dang thatwas a struggle too in my life
that's what he tells me when hemet you.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, y'all was in some stages of my life, y'all
saw some stuff, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I'm like y'all definitely.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Your grandfather right now?
Yeah, okay, no, we ain't.
We definitely saw that Shoutout.
I got a video actually whereI'm over here hyped in my car.
I'm in the beater.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
My car is like about to break down.
I'm like look at the face.
I remember that you used tohave some of the most
motivational videos I've everseen.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'll tell you I'm very supportive of all my
friends oh no, the one way Iremember here we go get some
nice butt.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
What he was like get a nice cut, get some nice butt.
He said come get a haircut, buty'all don't support local
businesses, so y'all ain't goingto come, so forget y'all.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I really was hot bro.
I know I was really hot bro.
That was a motivational talk,right through that turd left.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You don't understand, you don't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You don't understand.
So I started thinking about itas the video went.
So I was really hyped, I wasreally into it, just because a
lot of people told me, yeah, youknow what, I'm going to go to
you for this haircut.
And all these people justdisappeared.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
They never showed up again, is that the one where
you're in the mirror in the shopI'm hot and my hat says save
money.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I made no money.
Save money, walmart.
I got that video.
We don't need to show thesepeople, we ain't doing that.
You got to put that in there.
That's going to be in thecredits.
(11:04):
Nah, I ain't talking to y'allfor one whole week.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Put it in the end.
Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So what's today's topic, ma'am?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I don't really have like a specific topic.
I just had a bunch of questionsto talk about.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Go ahead, just do one yeah like even now.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I just wanted to know .
You know, I know that you'redoing um hvac, so how do you
feel like I think we have a lotwe've always talked about this.
I feel like we really a lot ofways like doing something that
maybe you thought was going tomake you happy and then it
wasn't, and you just feel like,okay, this is not the route I
want to go, let me do somethingelse yeah and is it just about
stability or is it also going tomake me really happy to do this
(11:46):
?
So I feel like, do you feel likewhat you're going for now is
what's really going to make youhappy, based off you know, or
rather than barbering?
Or like what made you decide todo that, besides barbering?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Like you mentioned, stability was like a really big
thing.
We'll start with the barberingthing.
Barbering is like somethingI've been wanting to do.
When I met Tino it was like,yeah, I want to do this.
And then he really he gave me myfirst pair of fast feeds.
I remember that I still gotthem.
They broke down, I still gotthem.
I still got them, though, andyeah, I don't know, like you
(12:25):
said, when I got into it it waskind of like I just wanted to
make some FU money, likewhatever it's.
Just I wanted to make somepaper, but then I ended up
falling in love with makingrelationships with people you
know, and then I actually metman.
I met Ken Griffey Jr.
Like who knew.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I would have met.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Ken Griffey man.
Look at that, you know what I'msaying.
Like I'm wearing I met KenGriffey man, look at that, you
know what I'm saying.
Like I'm wearing a mariner Igot Ken Griffey's over there.
Like I'm wearing Ken Griffey'sright now.
But, yeah, so I got to meetlike people.
I really looked up to growingup and I thought that was really
cool.
Like I said, I maderelationships, but with this
barbering thing I moved threetimes in three years.
(13:06):
So I would build clientele andthen lose my clientele, then
I'll build it again, break itdown again, build it one more
time.
My last time I moved back hereto Arizona.
I kind of found myself withoutmoney right away, but I had to
build clientele right away andthat doesn't go hand in hand
together.
So, um, you know, I was alreadynot making any money and I
(13:29):
couldn't find a job anywhere soI just said you know what?
I'm kind of tired of being inthis position.
I'm almost 30 years old andmaking nothing.
You know, all I'm kind of doingis paying for booth rent and my
phone bill and my rent, andit's just like it's too much so.
So I said you know what, let mejust look up what I could do
that I know will be sustainable.
Crazy thing about growing up inmy high school they never
(13:53):
brought up trade schools.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
They always brought up.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
They do it now though .
Yeah, I bet now, cause we're solike understaffed in trade
schools.
So anybody out there, Irecommend going to trade school.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Can you explain what a trade school is exactly?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
A trade school is basically a blue collar job and
like it's a job that would nevergo away.
So electricians, plumbing, hvac, that type of stuff,
construction, and the thing is,even when everything shuts down
in the world, we're still goingto need these people because
we're still going to need housesand stuff.
So, and when COVID happened, Ifound out like okay, you know,
(14:31):
barbers are kind of reliable, Ican really slide to people's
houses and stuff like that.
But it was very limited becauseeverybody was kind of scared to
die.
Yeah, but when I startedthinking about all this other
stuff and what came to be was Istarted after I left the
barbershop.
I did not know what to doanymore.
I didn't have a job and it waslike it caused problems at home
(14:56):
and I was like, you know, I needjust, I just need something to
happen.
And, of course, my kids areright there.
I'm looking at them like, yeah,you guys, you guys are hungry,
I got to get up and do something.
All eyes on you, right?
So it was like it became a loton my shoulders, so I decided to
do hvac.
Actually, I took a tour to thecollege as just like a whim.
(15:17):
I just passed the school and Isaw it trade school.
So I just busted you, went inthere and I was like, yeah, I
don't know if it'll work myschedule because I take care of
my kids all day.
So, um, they're like oh, we canwork around your schedule.
So if you guys, if you can comein at six o'clock, you'll get
out before midnight.
You just have it going on.
So I went in there.
(15:38):
I was like, okay, yeah, we canmake that happen.
I was like, but I just don'tgot no money right now.
They're like sixty dollars amonth and pull alone you're good
.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I was like yeah let's do it.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, right then.
And there um they.
So they got me through everyclass.
They got me through electricity, plumbing, car mechanics, and
then they put me in HVAC and forsome reason I was like yeah,
that's the one, yep.
That's the one.
I did it and, oh crazy thing,congratulations to me.
They gave me an opportunity totake my HVAC EPA license and I
(16:08):
passed that first try and Ididn't even graduate yet.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Oh, my God, you need a little applause button there.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's the wrong.
Oh, the mother button.
There's a crowd that applaudssomewhere in there.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Oh wait, hold on my fault, my fault, my fault.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The bird.
Oh my God, yeah, yeah,appreciate it, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I'm very motivated for this, but if I just dodge
the question, I came here forstability, but I realized that
this is going to make me happybecause I just want to see my
family happy.
You know, I think that's moreso what I'm doing all this for.
That's the reason why I didbarbering as well.
I love taking my kids to work.
That made me happy.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But I wasn't making no money, so it was a f**k wait.
Like it was flexible yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
But now, if I could just make money, yeah, I could
get whatever they want to make.
That yeah, because then youcould spend more time and
roaches.
Hell yeah, rats.
You know I am scorpion.
Go on, we saw a big grasshopperout here, we just ducked off oh
yeah, I'm scared ofgrasshoppers, of all all things.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
We ducked off.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, I'm scared of roaches.
But hey, you know, I'm gonna,I'm gonna get that thing.
He's gonna turn into the.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Terminator.
Hell yeah, orkin.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
My teacher said he saw a rat Like it almost bit him
.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
He had to grab that he had to, I said damn.
I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Are you doing that?
I don't know, mortal Kombat,maybe.
I don't know, mortal Kombat,maybe what I might have to just
chop it.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Oh my God, Are there rats here?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
They got to go somewhere, yeah they got to go
somewhere.
Yeah, but roaches are big outhere in Arizona man they grow
big sizes.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
In Texas they fly yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
They fly here.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, no, they're big in Texas and they fly.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
They're big and they fly at the same time.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And they got big rats .
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It's like New York.
I don't want to hear that, Justsaying I've lived everywhere.
We can go to the next subject.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
No, I just wanted to know because I feel like, yeah,
I can relate to that a lot Sick,but I think that's amazing.
Thank you.
Because sometimes one road isjust not.
One route's not the way to gooh, I got another story on that.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I really wanted to say freaking.
Uh, you guys invited me tochurch once.
This is before I left barberingand this is actually what kind
of motivated me quittingbarbering.
Um, the priest said he said godwill just make you go a path,
even though it's against thegrain, even though you do not
want to give it up.
You're gonna keep going downthat road.
(18:32):
He's not telling you to stop,but it just don't feel right
yeah man, until you go with, thegrain just gonna fall okay,
that's how I yeah we alreadyknow my story?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
yeah, because I didn't want to leave the store I
feel, like I'm like I, and evennow it's like I do miss what I
did, because I loved what I didyeah that wasn't the issue.
It was more of like when we weretalking about this last time,
I'm like I feel like I justbrought a lot of what was going
on in the store, though, with mehome and I would come home just
in a bad mood, or like I couldhave an okay day, but I would
(19:06):
come home and if there's my goldspoon in the sink, I'm mad.
You know what I mean.
So I just I realized it was thejob that was making me so
unhappy, but also just otherreasons that.
I don't really want to talkabout but but I did like the job
, so I didn't want to let it go.
Now I feel like a huge weighthas been lifted off my shoulder
because I am actually going touse my license.
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But, it's that thing, too, whereto use my license.
But it's that thing, too, whereyou feel like, am I doing this
though, because I'm I know that,like he would want this for me,
or like what this would make usreally, really financially
stable, or am I gonna be happytoo, and I still don't know yet,
because I haven't gotten thatthat routine yet of waxing and
making money, and you know whatI mean yeah but I definitely am
(19:51):
seeing it now like I'm a lothappier, I wake up happier, I go
to work happier, it's just abetter feeling, um, but I don't
know.
I feel like god told me a longtime ago to close the door and I
wouldn't, and you would eventell me all the time yeah, but
yeah, I get it, yeah, I'm happyyeah.
I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, I'm happy for you too, dude.
That for sure was a big pivotin life for both of us, for sure
, and you holding it down toowas.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I forget, you Forget y'all.
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Because you just always seem to have it together.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Right, yeah, I think you hold pressure pretty well.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I do, but look, speaking of the pastor.
Hey, shout out, pastor Justin.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Today he was talking about your identity, and then I
know you grew up without yourdad.
I know you grew up without yourdad and I did too.
Yeah, but check it out, he was.
He was talking about identitiestoday, about identities today,
and he was like there's so manydifferent identities that you
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could have based on how you grewup or whatever how life has
treated you.
However it may be, um, but it'scrazy because we see so many
like, even in a barbershop, wesee so many kids that are like
oh, I gotta be this because myparents told me I have to be
this and this, this and this,and it's like you don't.
Yeah, you know what I mean, butI realized that as a kid I grew
up.
You know, my mom always workedall the time.
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I grew up thinking that it washard for me to be confident.
It was hard for me to feel likesomeone wants me.
You know what I mean, becausemy my goal in life was to be a
father, so he was talking abouthow.
He was talking about how.
Basically, what is youridentity and why did it become
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this?
And it was because, like youknow, when I was younger, I
didn't have confidence.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
mean.
So he was talking about thattoday and I was like yeah, it
hit home a lot, but I didn'thave confidence because I felt
like my father wasn't you knowwhat I mean?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
a lot of stuff.
I knew that from my father yep,but it was.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It was a pretty good day it was fire.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Sad I missed him.
It was fire though.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I know I thought about it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I was like I really wanted to but you already know
my schedule busy right now.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, hey, my boy Andre was there.
Well, good thing it's onYouTube, yeah, so catch it, I'll
definitely catch it, that'scool.
Yeah, no, it was a good messagebecause it talked about a lot of
stuff we've been talking abouttoo Mental health and stuff and
just feeling not, not worth it.
Or like you just yeah, it'strue, not worth it.
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Or like you, just yeah, it'strue.
It's kind of like the questionwe started with like you know,
what could you, what could yourparents have taught you when you
were younger, that would helpyou live life happily and
successfully nowadays.
So now it's like we go throughstuff and we don't know how to
handle it.
Or we don't know how toemotionally react, we don't know
how to communicate.
On top of that, we don't knowhow to save.
We don't know right it's a lotof stuff and then be a parent,
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but yeah, just which one lost mytrain thought huh, which one do
you think you were?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
he said the one that was the broken mirror, broken
mirror.
Broken mirror was you're likegoing through stuff.
You only let people decide.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, I hear you, you know what I mean.
I get you what other ones werethere, the other one was.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So the first one was no identity.
That was me.
No identity because when I wasa kid, I felt like I didn't have
an identity.
I didn't know how to do this, Icouldn't think for myself,
whatever my homies were doing, Iwould do it.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
So how are you able to do that now?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Because no one would ever guess that, knowing you,
because when I turned 18, no,when I turned 18, all the way
until 22, I was like that Wentout there and visited my brother
.
He made me confident and then Imet my wife.
Aww.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I was gonna say so, cedric.
Oh f*** he pressing the wrongbutton.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I like this so much yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I just feel like no one I mean, I don't know any
things, but I just feel like noone would ever guess that
Because you are super confident,you know how to save.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So when I went out there at first I was like he
gave me confidence, but it wastoo much, so I had to do that
yeah.
Because, if you know my brother, he's confident.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Shout out to Cedric.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Cedric is confident.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Oh, my God, I got Shout out my brother.
He's like super duper confident.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I don't really got stories on him, but every time I
was out he was out, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That's how we met, because he was out, I'm telling
you?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
No, that's how it was , though, and then you know, I
met you and got humbled a little.
You know, mm-hmm, you know howdo you say that, that you know
why no, I don't, I was just, itwas just like I seen, I don't
know, I was just humbled.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know we went through stuff that okay, in our
life not in our relationshipnecessarily, no, just in our
life.
Yeah, you know, well, we bothhad nothing.
Yeah, we got evicted but I was.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That was the first mirror at church right.
First one was no identity.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Second was like I guess it was like a misguided
identity, right yeah, well, justeveryone telling you that you
should do this, you should dothat right, instead of what
really makes you happy.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's like your friends.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And then the last one , or the, the second, the third
one was the broken one and thefourth one was the perfectly
fine mirror.
That one, it's where you'resupposed to be oh, okay, you
know.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, I definitely relate with no identity, that's
for sure, for sure for sure?
Yeah, I definitely wassurrounded by a lot of people
that I shouldn't have been yeahyou know and I just try to
please them realize like, oh,dang, I'm not happy.
Oh, okay, let me go here, thenyou know.
Like you said, though, it'slike by the time I hit like 23,
24, I started realizing like, oh, I know who I am, yeah, but
(26:05):
like I've come so far, now Igotta rearrange my life right,
yeah, I feel you yeah that'swhere I'm at, like 36 and still
fit.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I I'm still figuring it out, are you?
36.
I know y'all.
Oh, bro, I know.
So, if anything it's, it's me.
Yeah, I'm still figuring it out.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's fine.
That's most people in thisworld anyway, I figured it out
now you know right, instead of55 facts I know bro, I know a.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I know a dude.
That was when I first movedhere in the barbershop.
He was like 50 something.
He's like man ain't nobodytrying to put me on from chicago
.
They ain't trying to put you onout here.
I'm like bro, put you on thewhat you're 50, bro.
Like you're trying to be in thestreets.
Still, what are you talkingabout?
He was dead serious trying tobe in the streets.
He's like they ain't trying toput me on, bro.
(27:00):
Well, you are three days awayfrom a seizure or a coma or
whatever.
Like you're old, bro, a badcough away, bad cough away.
Exactly, you catch covid, youmight.
You gotta stay in the house foronce.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's one thing about Arizona.
Arizona got too many peoplethat are not from Arizona.
That's facts.
You might step on the wrongtoes without even knowing.
Yes, that's true, you might saygood morning, and somebody
would tell you like what thatmean.
I was at Winco I said nah, I'mstraight.
I was talking to the mother ofmy children.
(27:34):
I was like nah, I'm straight.
This lady says you're not fromhere.
Huh what.
I said what do you mean she'slike we don't say that here?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I said okay.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I was like I'm confused and she's like we just
don't say that.
And then turned around andwalked around, walked away.
I was like, okay, damn, arizonais different.
She must have took it that oldlady was about to slide you.
No, no, she was.
She said it with a smile.
I was just confused.
I was looking at her like whatthat mean but then again, you
know, you never know.
Throw you down the aisle.
(28:05):
You never know, man but do youfeel?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
like you've had.
You've been able to have moregrowth being in arizona like
definitely would you recommendliving in Arizona.
I would definitely.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
But if you're very small-minded, don't come here.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Unless you want to build who you are as a human
being and your career, do it andfeel the pressure.
Right, because you'redefinitely going to feel the
pressure.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yes, because there's so many successful people around
you and it feels like everybodyis trying to do something.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I think Arizona is the third best state to become a
millionaire, or third statewith the most millionaires that
start their own business.
I think that's a statistic.
I could be wrong, though.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
My boy says it's a statistic.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I got a little bit of my fault Statistic.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You got me saying it wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, man, yeah, if you want to move out here, just
know there's pressure to it, butyou could definitely become
successful.
Facts I married a fewmillionaires and that's just by
walking in the street.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Streets.
I was trying to get put onFacts.
Trying to get put on bro Facts.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
He's like the pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'm Will Smith Dang.
I do got a question for you,though.
You mentioned that you didn'tgrow up with a father, and how
did that help you become thefather you are today?
Because I see your kids happy.
My kids are mean.
(29:37):
Yeah, they are.
Yeah, for sure April, for sureman.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No, you got to get to a point where it's like what do
you want in life, right?
And most of us who didn't growup with a father the pastor was
talking about this today Shoutout, pastor, justin, how you
dang.
I just lost my train of thought.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I know you're going to have to cut you grow up right
With without a father, and thenBasically, you grow up without
a father, so you may havesomebody else in your life that
is trying to be that fatherfigure for you, or it could be
your friends you know, and thenthey lead you down the wrong
path or they tell you what youshould be doing with your life
and then you just never reallyfigure out who you are, because
(30:23):
you're living off of everybodyelse's opinion of what you
should be doing so for me it was, I should have went to church
today
Speaker 2 (30:29):
yes, it was, I should have went to church.
I almost crip walked, but no,it was, uh, I think, growing up
without a father.
I wanted to be a father since Iwas a kid, and when you want to
be a father, you just that'syour goal.
You know what I?
mean whatever happens, happenslike I know cutting hair is cool
.
Being a father, as long as mykids can have everything they
want, I'm good.
(30:49):
Yeah, like I don't care whathappens as long as my kids are
happy.
Yeah, that that was mydeterrent, like that's what made
me want to be a better father,giving my kids whatever they
wanted.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
That you didn't have Just doing everything I didn't
have.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean, because I got other
siblings.
Their father wasn't in theirlife.
You know what I mean, so I haveto do what I can for them as
well.
But then, you have people alsowho grew up with both fathers,
or you got people in your lifethat grew up with both people in
their family, in your.
You know both your parentsrewind, rewind you got people in
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your life like do you?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
you have people that have no oh, that's not what I'm
saying.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
This is right this is the problem right here.
You got people in your liferight, so you have both parents.
Sometimes, when you have bothparents, you don't accept
responsibility the same becausethey're like, oh, I'll do this
for you, I'll do this for you.
So you have to learn somehowhow to get responsibility right
when you don't have a father.
It's like I have to do this orelse it's not going to work.
(32:02):
I have to be better than thisperson or it's going to be worse
.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's how it.
That's how I look at itsometimes, because I know plenty
people both of their parents intheir life.
They're they're, they feel likethey're.
What's the word when you'relike you have everything
entitled, they feel entitled.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
They feel privileged.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
They feel like they don't need to work for other
people but those same people, ifthey're a single child or only
child, they're always afraid tohave kids.
And that's insane to me becauseyou know when you have siblings
, you grow up sharing, you growup knowing what it's like to
fight with your sibling and allthat.
I cut some people and they'reafraid to have kids Damn.
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So I'm more happy that I didn'tgrow up with a father than
ending up like some people likethat.
I hear that Because I feel likea lot of people are afraid of
pressure.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, or they don't handle it well, I am.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Pressure sucks.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yes, I am, it pushes your limits.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You got to know you're going to be good, though,
right.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
But if you don't have the confidence, that's
something I've always struggledwith.
I don't always have theconfidence, like people think I
do, to do something.
That's why, for me, being awaxer, I don't really like to
have conversations as much as Ilike to talk.
I don't really know how to haveconversations with people.
I'm not a people person Like youknow what I mean.
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So for me it's like that'sscary.
It's scary when I think aboutit every time, that I think
about me going into waxing again, that I'm going to have to have
again, that I'm gonna have tohave, I'm gonna have to form
relationships.
And how am I gonna likeseparate, being fake and being
genuine, because they can seethat a mile away.
But if you're not somebody thatis like that, that likes to be
a people person or formrelationships, that's, it's
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tough, it feels like pressure,it's like, okay, that's when I'm
saying like am I doing itbecause of the money and because
I'm good at it, or is it allthree?
I feel like you do.
I feel like you have to fake itall the time.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
This is why people be like oh, I think so-and-so is
going to win, or I'm a big Lakerfan, or I support whatever
president I support.
I'd be like that's what's up.
And then I move on to the nextsubject.
Yeah, but I'd be like, oh yeah,oh, that's crazy.
Anyways, you just got to, butno, when you get in the field
and you start finding the people, or people start finding you
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that want to find you, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's wonderful Like you cut hair before you find
people.
That's cool.
I definitely found my littlegroup of people.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
They're really cool.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Facts, but Yep yes.
Really cool Facts, but thatcomes with time too.
Like he mentioned too, he wasjust in it, just to be in it,
and then he learned to love it.
That's how I was too.
I was kind of just like I wantmy money.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, I feel like that's me.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I just wanted to go to work, just to talk to the
people.
Facts.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I know that's a weird thing to say.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I know you can make it easier on yourself.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
It doesn't feel like work after a while yeah, it
definitely didn't I have gooddays every day I know you always
say that I'm just cutting hairman he always says that and I'm
just like I don't have bad daysI know I, I don't know how it's
just.
It's just who I am it's a goodlife, like the other day he said
.
He said what did you me?
You're like, what do you wantto do?
You asked me what I want toaccomplish or whatever.
(35:25):
I was like I don't know.
Then I said what do you want toaccomplish?
Literally, you said I've doneeverything that I wanted to do.
I've lived my life.
Now I'm just worried.
I'm focused on what you need todo To get Like.
I've lived my life.
Now I'm just worried.
I'm focused on what you need todo so to get to that point.
That is the goal.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I want to get to that point.
Yeah, you'll get thereeventually, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, you'll get there.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
All right, I got a question for you Because in the
group chat you know the groupchat me, Liddell Tez, Darius,
all them guys, Shout, guys,shout out to group chat.
Shout out to group chat brandonall them, my cousins, joe.
Um, a lot of us didn't grow upwith fathers, so there was a
question one time and we were.
(36:10):
We had some conversations.
It was like who had it worse?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
oh, it was bad right.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
but it got to a point where, like, do you Taz asked a
question?
Do you think it's better foryour parent to have never been
there in the first place, likelet's say they passed away, or
do you think it's better if theycome in and then they leave?
You know what I mean.
If they're just inconsistentBoth of those?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's a good question, yeah we all three here
are something yeah yeah, so, um, yeah, my little situation is
weird with my parents, but, um,inconsistency sucks, yeah, that
really does suck.
That met, that messed me up somuch in the head and I like to
say when I was growing up thatit didn't.
But I was looking forvalidation, like from fighting
(37:00):
people, like not saying like afighting is cool, but I was
fighting people just to take outmy anger or whatever.
And then it was like where's myround of applause, right?
Where's my homies saying goodjob, right.
But it was like why?
And now that I'm older, it'sjust all of it sounds so stupid,
but it sounds so stupid.
(37:26):
But, like I said, what happenedwith me or my parents?
Anyway, they split up and theyjust had their relationship and
they kind of just held grudgesversus each other, right, how?
old were you when they split up?
When they split up, I was aboutone or two Dang.
Yeah, okay, that's kind of likeGrowing up.
My dad tried, right, my dadtried With the phone call.
I never saw his face.
I couldn't put a face to thevoice, right, but like my mom
would talk good about him andthen bad about him.
And then I'll be on the phonewith my dad and then he'll talk
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good about my mom but then badabout my mom, right?
So I'm confused, like whichside am I on?
But the whole time they're,they got this little revenge
thing going on, but I'm in themiddle.
It was kind of it kind of feltlike they were looking at each
other but never at me, right,you know it's like, but it is
what it is.
Now, now that I'm older, my mama, my mama knows like, hey, you
know, like I'm sorry thathappened, right, I really am
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like I just want to take care ofyou now, right, but, and the
whole time I'm trying to takecare of her, like that's what
this whole age back thing is tooabout.
That's cool.
But, um, also, my dad came backin my life.
He don't live too far from here, live like an hour from here,
and he's like I told him, um, Ijust want him in my kid's life
now, since he got taken, since Iwas taken away, right, I just
(38:31):
want you in my kid's life right,and he's all on board.
So I think it came around fullcircle.
Yeah, that's for sure, but Idefinitely had to check my
parents.
Oh yeah, you know what I'msaying, like my kids now are on
a pedestal, they're never goingto have to go through anything
like that, even if me and themother of my children do go
through something.
If that were to happen, we'restill going to be cordial with
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our kids, that's for sure.
Yeah, um, do you feel like he's?
consistent with them, um, asmuch as you would like him to be
, as much as I would like him tobe, just because, um, like I
said, I got a busy scheduleright now so even if you tried
ways, yeah, even if you tried Iwouldn't be able to let you in,
you know, but like when he, whenthere's opportunity, it happens
(39:15):
yeah that's cool.
I'm very proud of.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
That's cool.
I'm very proud of it, that'scool.
Yeah, I think I dealt with alot of inconsistency, but I do
think, as far as like, if myparent were to pass away at a
younger age, I feel like youwould always look at that as
like the reason to do better.
But for us it's like theinconsistency sometimes.
(39:38):
Or I know, for me it was likethe inconsistency sometimes.
Or I know, for me it was likemy dad just show up, then he not
for a long time, and then youtry to show up again and I'm
like, bro, the older you get,the worse it gets.
So I think it would have beeneasier had you dealt with a
parent that passed away, becauseit's like, oh, I'm gonna do
better for this person, I'm todo better for this person, I'm
(39:58):
going to do better for thisperson.
My dad would be happy, my dadwould be.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, but then you have aparent that's living and they're
doing terrible by you.
So it's tough, yeah, definitely, but I think, I don't know,
it's a rough one.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
That is a rough one.
Just to add context to thatquestion if your parent were to
die, in what context would it belike?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
You already don't like that parent or you like
that parent.
I'm at an age where I wouldn'tcare.
Okay, I hear you and thatsounds messed up, but it's to
the point where I'm at peacewith the situation.
This is who you are, this iswhat you do.
I'm cool with the point whereI'm at peace with the situation.
This is who you are, this iswhat you do.
I'm cool with that.
But I'm not going to allow that.
Right, I accept you for who youare.
I'm not going to allow thatfrom my kids.
(40:50):
Yeah, I'm not bringinginconsistent people around my
kids, and that's because I'veseen what it's done to me.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I mean, and that's inconsistency can mess you up,
it does bad, bro, real bad.
And I mean even you know Ericasees it all the time.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
So yeah, that's why.
Yeah, that's why theirbiological father is not in
their life.
And I had to make that toughdecision because I think about
it every day like, am I reallydoing the right thing by keeping
him from them, or am I doingwhat's right?
I talk to Avery about this allthe time because I'm like
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sometimes I feel like I'msupposed to be.
You know, like when I thinkabout God, I'm like I'm supposed
to be.
I'm supposed to love everybodyand forgive everybody, and I
don't know that I've everforgiven him.
And he was like well, you know,you could forgive people and
just not deal with them, but Ido that so much already.
That's why I don't really havea lot of people around me,
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because I do that, I forgive,and then I'm like okay, but I
don't want you around me.
So with the kids, it's like Ididn want consistent
inconsistency in their life,because he did that when they
were just one, and two, and thatthat's when I met avery, um,
and now that they're gettingolder, I'm sure that they're
getting more curious because, um, it's like my situation, me
(42:14):
wanting to know who my mom was,who my real father was.
You know, I wanted to know whoI looked like.
They're gonna be curious andwant to know so but see with me,
it's like my real well, not myreal father, but my real father.
Yes, he exists, but he's never.
He's not around.
I've never met him.
Then it's like I had a fatherthat supposedly raised me till I
(42:36):
was three and then he passedaway.
Never knew him.
That doesn't affect me at all Idon't feel anything for it, just
like I don't feel anything formy father, who is alive but he's
not around.
Then I only had a mom, but mymom had to work three jobs, go
to school.
Barely saw her, barely saw her,not because she didn't care, but
(42:56):
because she was trying toprovide and take care of us.
So for me I feel like um I thatreally affected me a lot.
I think certain situationsaffect you in different ways and
different reasons.
Y'all have very similarsituations of why and
inconsistency I see with my, mydaughter's father.
That's why I don't want that intheir life, but also because I
(43:20):
didn't have that consistencyalso, I didn't have a father
figure.
That's why I looked for love inboys.
That's why you know what.
I mean, so you make really baddecisions when you don't have a
father around at all.
As a woman, I think it's justyou look for love in in all the
wrong places and then having aparent that's always working all
(43:40):
the time, and, yeah, I wouldjust kind of do whatever I
wanted.
I have a father to put his footdown and tell me, hey, you need
to come home, or you know whatI mean.
So I think either way it'sstill bad.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I I feel like it's just as bad, age back is cool,
it's so cool.
I met some really cool peoplethat, uh, they're not gonna let
me fail.
There's a couple times where Iwas like I can't do this anymore
, I'm done, I can't do it.
I can't do it, no more.
My schedule starts at 1 to 2 amand ends at 11 pm.
(44:12):
Repeat, so I only go to sleep.
I go to sleep at like 1130 andthen wake up at 1 30.
Repeat my whole day again forseven days a week.
Wait 11 30 am, 11 30 pm andthen I wake up at 1 30 am and
why I'm telling you?
because I, uh, I go to work atin the morning I do a graveyard
(44:35):
shift and I get off around like9 or 10 and then take care of my
kids all day until like 5.30.
And then I go to school from 6to 11.
Get home around 11.30.
Try to go to sleep as soon as Itouch down.
That never happens.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
How long do you have to do that for?
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I do that for about I do that until July, end of July
, but I do that every day, aboutsix or seven days a week.
So you graduate in July, end ofJuly Are you going to have an
actual graduation.
Yeah, that's what they said.
I just man, I just hope it's abig ceremony.
I saw videos, but videos arelike in California like.
Nevada like where's Arizonastuff I want to see?
(45:14):
I see one Arizona ceremony.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Is y'all class big?
Speaker 1 (45:19):
It's about to be what ?
Arizona ceremony yeah, is y'allclass big it's about to be.
So what does that mean?
So we got to pass a prereq.
So it'll be like two classeswhich will be like two months,
and then you go into a biggerclass and you kind of merge with
another class.
Luckily, the class that wemerged with was only like four
people, so it became a totallike eight to ten people.
Yeah, the class that's rightbehind us next month is going to
(45:42):
join us and that was like anadditional ten, so it's going to
be a whole big class.
That kind of sucks, because thesmaller classes meant more
hands-on.
Now we're just going to bedoing rotations, now I'm just
going to be waiting.
It's like okay, can I touchthose refrigerant or not?
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Dang you working on a refrigerator, fix my
refrigerator I can do that.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Or microwave.
I can do that.
I'm EPA certified.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Certified.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
But just think about it.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
So after what?
July?
Yeah, you'll be able to, justit'll be so different.
Yeah, way different the rest ofyour future is going to be
exactly what you want it to be.
All the hard work will pay off.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
It's going to sound like this no, I seriously like.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
I commend you so much because there's not a lot of
fathers that would do whatyou're doing at all.
Like you need to be.
I've told you this before, butyou really do need to be proud
of yourself.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
I really am.
I be proud of yourself.
I really am.
I wasn't at first and I waslike man, why'd I quit?
I quit barbering.
You know, when you're lookingat myself in the mirror like man
, I want to break this mirrorright now.
I can't believe I did that.
You're sick, huh?
I'm licensed in two states,still, still the only person got
a license in washington.
I still got a license inwashington.
(46:57):
Why you don't want to go back?
I'm never going back.
Never, it's too small, like Isaid.
Back to the mindset thing whenI was living over there my mind
was like a watermelon seed.
Now I'm out here, wholewatermelon.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
You know what I'm saying he's a whole watermelon,
a whole watermelon that boygrown it up, the big one's, not
the little small one.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
That I'm telling you I'm thinking different now.
I'm not thinking small anymore.
Facts.
That's just how I am.
I love that, but I'll nevermove back to Iowa.
That's not the plan.
I never heard anybody say that,that they would do that.
Facts I never, heard anybodysay they would do that.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Facts Mm-mm.
Well, all right, it's aboutthat time, cuz.
Oh man, thank you for having me, buddy, it's about that time,
thank you.
Thank you, man, you know,appreciate you.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Hopefully I get back on the podcast in like a year or
two.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
A year or two in progress.
Yeah, we want to know whereyou're at.
You know that'll be season likethree for us.
Hold up in a Hellcat.
Maybe We'll see though.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Okay, lambo Lewis, whatever, all right.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Well, that's the end of this video.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Podcast, whatever.
Hey, I've been doing YouTubeall day.
I know I've been doing YouTubeall week, so I'm used to saying
video.
The end of this podcast.
Anything you want to say, ma'am?
Speaker 3 (48:14):
No, just thank everybody for watching.
If you guys have anysuggestions for anything you
want us to talk about, let usknow as you can see.
We're very open, so yeah, thankyou, kenny.
Thank you so much for having meyou're very inspiring and I
really appreciate you and welove you so subscribe and follow
the podcast, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
You ain't even gotta like it, no more.
I'm asking y'all to do too much, so alright, catch y'all in the
next one.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Bye, peace, peace, peace Peace.
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