June 25, 2025 • 46 mins
Sometimes the most powerful conversations happen when family comes together. In this special Father's Day episode, we welcome Guy – Tino's "little lying brother" – who recently made the bold move from Iowa to Arizona to pursue his barbering dreams. His fresh perspective as a newcomer to the desert provides the perfect backdrop for our exploration of life's big questions.
"Are you living the life you always dreamed of?" This deceptively simple icebreaker reveals striking differences in how each of us measures fulfillment. Guy, standing at the threshold of adulthood, feels aligned with his path. Erika acknowledges gratitude for family and stability while still hungering for more. Avery finds contentment in his current life while maintaining ambition for financial growth. Their varied responses illuminate how our relationship with success evolves throughout different life stages.
The Father's Day theme prompts heartfelt appreciation for the men who've shaped their lives. Guy's reflection that "having a dad in my life is a flex" strikes a powerful chord, highlighting how something some take for granted represents profound privilege for others. The conversation takes an unexpectedly vulnerable turn when Guy shares his journey with syndactyly – a congenital hand condition requiring multiple childhood surgeries. His matter-of-fact resilience and adaptation as a barber showcase remarkable strength.
We explore how geography shapes aspiration, contrasting the limited horizons of small Midwestern towns with Arizona's visible prosperity and opportunity. Those palm-tree lined streets from movies like "Friday" aren't just aesthetic backdrops – they represent possibility. For transplants from places where "we never saw successful Black people in our neighborhoods," the access to diverse models of achievement becomes transformative.
Join us for this intimate look at family bonds, personal growth, and the courage to chase dreams beyond familiar territory. Whether you're contemplating a major life change or simply appreciating the father figures in your world, this episode reminds us that our definitions of success are always evolving.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
all right, hello out there in tv land.
We back with another episode.
This is the other half podcast.
We got my little big brother.
He go by guy manny marvinmaxwell jamal malik I don't even
know buddy real name for real,but yeah, this is my lion
(00:25):
brother.
This is my lion little brotherman Talk.
Okay, he got his own YouTubechannel.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
He cut hair.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
He cutting hair.
He about to go to barber school.
He just moved to Arizona.
He lit yeah On online he thereal seven baby, but he's not
seven foot.
So I just want y'all to knowthat I'm halfway there.
Anyways, let's get into thisicebreaker Powered by Hella
Awkward, shout out Hella Awkward.
Hella Awkward is a black andAsian owned business, and that's
(01:01):
really dope.
And it is Father's Day today,just so y'all know yes, so happy
father's day to all the fathers, mentors yes, everybody coaches
, all that anybody who everplayed a role in somebody's life
yes, and happy father's day toyou well, I appreciate that
you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I appreciate that.
Appreciate that you're welcome.
I appreciate that.
So it's an icebreaker, allright.
So the icebreaker of today isare you living the life that you
always dreamed of?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
now we're gonna let you go first, sir, since you're
the guest well, first, all right, since you're new here.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Uh, he gotta clear his throat too look, I'll say
I'll say yeah, like at this, atthis, at this age, like at this
moment of time, yeah, but likeuh, but yeah, like at this age,
I'll say yeah, but of coursewhen I get older and stuff, like
(02:04):
, I have other plans and stuff,but for right now, yeah, like
I'm on track.
Why do you feel that?
Because, like, I've alwayswanted to move to Arizona, like
it's been my plan since eighthgrade, my first time coming out
here, I wanted to move out here.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Wait.
So I have a question then, nowthat you just said that since
eighth grade but so is thatbecause, like you, have friends
that are out here that you heardabout Arizona, or was it like
ever since Avery moved out hereand are you?
Just always wanted to move toArizona.
In general, yeah my first timevisiting.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
My first time visiting it was like it was like
really nice and stuff and likey'all got everything out here.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Like.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I used to be really big so I was like heavy on food.
Y'all got all the food out here.
You know you, it's never boringout here.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That boy was big on food, what yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
That's why I be trying to tell people there's so
much to do.
You can't be bored in it.
But the problem yeah,everything costs money to do
something.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So let me ask you this how much you used to weigh?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
300.
I was at.
I was at 296.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
The highest 298.
Isn't that like, not abnormal?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But what you is now Two you said 215.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
241.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
241.
You hear that we're makingprogress out here in these
streets.
The sun got the skin fallingoff them sounds like butter in a
skillet alright so your turnma'am okay.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
So for me, I feel like, although I'm thankful to
have you know, my family, mykids, a husband, my job, my
citizenship, like that's thebiggest thing.
Um, I am thankful for all ofthat, although I feel like I'm
destined for more.
So I'm still aspiring for morefor my family, for myself to
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feel really fulfilled, like mycup is full.
So, um, I would say I'm about Iam a little more than halfway
there for me.
What about you?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, I think for me I am right where I want to be.
Of course we can pay off bills,all that that's going to come,
but everything else I think it'spretty good.
I think I just got everything Iwant.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's so crazy to me, though, because you're so sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I always wanted kids.
I always wanted to livesomewhere where it doesn't snow.
I always wanted to be able tohelp other people.
I go to work every day.
I love my job.
I talk to people Everybody'scool.
I'm an old head to help otherpeople.
I go to work every day.
You know I love my job.
I talk to people Everybody'scool.
I'm an old head in the shop now, so I get to see the young dumb
people.
(04:52):
I get to see the older peoplewho I can learn from, and then I
get to give all the informationto everybody else.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, Well, I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So yeah, I think I'm where I want to be, but I mean,
obviously there's more.
We could always improve onfinances and stuff like that,
but for the most part I meanwhen I say that.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
That's all I mean by like.
You've heard me say thisalready.
I just mean, like you ever seenthat the saying like you work
five days a week.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
And then you have like two.
What is it?
They say, you have like 48hours to yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
That's not living to me.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So I just want to get to the point where I'm working
less, you're working less, butwe still have the means for
things that we want the kidslike whatever they need.
I mean not like necessity-wise,but they need um.
I mean not like necessity wise,but things that they want, you
know um, and just like more forthem, like I said, more more
space, things like that, just toreally feel like we're living
(05:52):
life.
And I think for me it hitsharder because I'm older than
you.
I'm older than you and I feellike I excuse me, grandma, you
know I just I.
I don't want to.
I only have so many more yearsto live and I don't want to be
like in the same predicament fortoo long.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah makes sense, see , but I didn't.
I never wanted to be thatperson that was.
I see so many people chasingfinances, like so many people,
and it's like they put thatabove everything.
So I feel like for me, I alwayswent the opposite way.
Of course it matters, but tosome people it only matters,
(06:32):
like I know people who arescared to have kids.
I know people who puteverything to the side and put
work, work, work.
You know what I mean, and Ithink we have somewhat of a
decent balance with that right,because I feel like in the
future, you'll be able to workless and you'll make more, and
that's the goal for me.
(06:52):
You know, what I mean To haveyou be comfortable and not have
to work as much as I do and dosomething you enjoy.
That's a good answer, huh, girl, I know Girl.
All right, since today isFather's Day, we are going to
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give flowers to men, importantmen that are in our lives.
Out of our lives not out of ourlives, I'm tripping in our
lives but just people whodeserve flowers.
Whoever you feel deservesflowers.
It could be our fathers, itcould be coaches, it could be
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mentors, it could be whoever,whoever you know.
There's like a lot of guys whostep up in other people's lives,
so it's important to make sureeverybody gets their flowers.
So you want to start this off,boy.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I'll start it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's not you, ladies, first, but I'm going to let you
go ahead.
I'm going to let you finish.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Erica had the best speech All right, ladies first,
then no, go ahead, ladies first,ladies first.
Okay, I'll say my pops.
Because I'll say my pops.
Because I'll say my pops?
Because, just because I got tohave no reason.
But you know, my dad notperfect, he is in my life, I can
(08:17):
call him Whenever I want to.
That's a flex, that's a flex, aflex, yeah, like I can actually
say, my dad is in my life.
I feel like that's a flex.
That's a flex, mm-hmm, a flex.
Yeah, like I can actually say,my dad is in my life.
I feel like that's a good thing.
There is distance between us,like we don't live in the same
city.
Now, we don't live in the samestate, but when I was back in
Iowa we didn't live in the samecity still.
But, yeah, I do have like Idon't know if my other siblings
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I do have, like my.
I don't know if my othersiblings like, if they feel the
same way or if, if they feeldifferent, but I don't, I really
don't know, but I'm, I'm.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I like my pops.
I mean, that's all that.
Yeah, that's all that matters.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You may have a different relationship or
connection anyways.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, and I feel like he's um the reason like that.
I am how I am today and how areyou yeah, in what sense?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
yeah, how are you?
I know you tall, I'm a man boy.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
No, honestly though I will say I really do.
I have to say this go ahead, youknow, because I'm gonna get
your flowers too I really,really commend you for being at
the age that you are and movingaway from where your family is.
I know you have us and we'refamily, but still like to move
away from all your family, yourfriends, um, and to come into a
(09:32):
whole new state, starting fresh.
That's commendable, becausethere's so many people your age
that are just letting it slide,not taking the opportunities and
you know, even if they have it,it's just not.
You have like the motivation.
I feel like that's what it islike.
You're motivated.
The fact that you get up andyou fold your blanket is crazy.
You know, like, yeah, becauseromeo, okay, no, I'm just saying
(10:05):
it really is.
I mean, regardless, if youdidn't do that at home or
whatever.
The fact is that, like you havethe mindset of like, okay, I am
in somebody else's home, it'snot just Avery's home, it's
Erica's home too.
Let me make sure you clean upafter yourself.
I mean everything.
Like I really do appreciatethat about you.
I really do admire the factthat you're very motivated and
that you want to go to barberschool, you want to be a barber
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or whatever it is that you wantto do.
I just feel like you're goingto make it really far if you
keep the same mindset that youhave now and you stay motivated.
That's why I told you, I feellike you're a lot like Avery, in
a sense of you like to be busy,you're a go-getter, you don't
wait around for you, and I thinkthat that's what's going to
make you go really far yeah, Iraised him, so yeah but thank
(10:51):
you you're welcome.
I just had to let you know whatabout you, avery?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
what about you?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Erica, ladies, first, who is your father that you
would like?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
to give props to.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I don't have a father , but I said I feel like it's
you because I didn't have thatgrowing up and as we've talked
about this before.
But if you're new coming on thepodcast, and y'all know that
avery fathered my kids and, um,he raised asia and april at one
(11:24):
and two years old.
They are now almost.
April's gonna be 11 this monthand then Asia's 12.
And I would say if I could justgive my speech.
I think it's the fact that youget up every day happy, you
don't complain, you get themready for school, you get them
there on time, you have aroutine.
Everything that he does forthere on time, you have a
(11:45):
routine.
Everything that he does for thekids is like in a schedule, so
that I think it's because, likeyou, don't want them to be
unorganized and have a messed uplife and procrastinate and not
be successful.
So I think that even right now,like you're setting them up for
success and I admire that a lotand that's what made me fall in
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love with you, because I knowthat you're you.
It's like you aspire to be thegreatest dad that you could be.
So I do want you to know Ireally do appreciate you, but I
feel like this should be aneveryday thing, not just a once
a year thing.
Yeah, I feel like you workreally hard, sometimes harder
(12:28):
than you need to.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Hold on, man, I need to work hard.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
No, but you just got through saying that people focus
too much on finances and money,and that's where I feel like
people, parents, we have to takea moment and step back and just
live in the moment and not.
You know, you do work a lotharder than you need to
sometimes.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But it don't feel like work.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
You provide.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You just have it for her.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Then you gotta figure out why I'm just having a jolly
old time.
Oh, it don't feel like work,work.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, it doesn't feel like work.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Well, that's good Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We appreciate your speech.
Okay, we appreciate your speech, girl, we appreciate your
speech.
Let's go See.
You got to do better.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I tell you this stuff all the time, though I don't
need to say it on camera.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't do my speech now.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I tell you this stuff all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, we done.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Like subscribe.
All right you.
What was yours?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
All right you.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
What was yours?
All right, I got to give ashout out to my uncle, tony.
Happy Father's Day to him.
I feel like he is someone whodoesn't always get flowers and
he was around a lot.
When I was a kid we used to goto his house, and then later in
life we used to go to his houseand then later in life we used
(13:46):
to, uh, go to his house burn cds.
But he was always around, hewas always available.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
he always welcomed us in his home you should say what
burn cds mean for the youngfolks for the young people when
you burn a cd not actually burna cd cd into a c into a computer
.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It puts songs on there.
You got about 20 songs made,probably less than that.
You got a certain amount oftime, yeah, and then you take
the cd out.
You got songs on, you go toyour car, put in the cd.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's like downloading music from your computer.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Come on man, all right, but yeah, we used to go
to his house burn cds.
Later in life he got me a.
He gave me a ride to and fromthat job.
Then, later in life, after thatI think, he got me another job.
He helped me get a couple jobsand, yeah, he's always been
around and he's always lookedout for me.
(14:36):
He's always kept me in checkand he's always, you know, he's
just always there.
He's never been a bad person inmy eyes.
He's just.
He's just an uncle.
You know, I mean like I got twouncles.
Well, I got three uncles, butthe uncles I grew up with are my
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uncle tony and my uncle chris,and and Tony is closer in age to
me, so my mom had me at 17, andTony is not that much older
than me, but I always look athim like an older brother rather
than older, like an uncle.
Right, I look at Chris as anuncle, I look at Tony as an
older brother, because I've seenTony grow up in a way to where
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a sibling would see your unclegrow up, in a way to where a
sibling would see your unclegrow up rather than the other,
the other way around.
You know what I mean.
So, yeah, a little my uncle, mylittle uncle, my yeah, shout
out my uncle Tony.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
But I do remember like going to his house.
He lived upstairs in anapartment with, uh, his kid's
mom and uh, yeah, I remembergoing over there as a kid.
So shout out, my uncle okay,yeah, cool so what's your?
What's your other question?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I know you got it up your sleeve I know I was trying
to remember what it was.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It was another question I got you, oh it up
your sleeve.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I know, I was trying to remember what it was.
It was another question I gotyou.
Oh, it was.
So the other question I wantedto do a card for was what you
wanted to accomplish by the endof the year.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, what do you want to accomplish by the end of
the year?
You out here in Arizona.
You know it's wonderful outhere, the weather is good.
You know it's wonderful outhere, the weather's good you can
make up something new.
I can tell you what you say,yeah, Make up something new,
Like just answer.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I mean so you're in Arizona Like what's your plan?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
What's your plan for the year?
What are you here for?
What are you here for?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
What do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
What do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
All year.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Make some friends.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I ain't got no friends.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I mean, I was all day , every day, bored.
You feel me Taking up all thesunlight.
I hope I'm graduating frombarber school by then, so I
could just go right into thebarbershop, and then I hope I'm
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financially happy with myself.
Then, yeah, yeah, that's aboutit that's it okay and everything
else will come after that.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I hope.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I hope life is good, like I hope I'm not that you're
happy yeah, I hope that I'mhappy you wanna be happy, huh.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
What makes you happy, huh?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I don't know, I just I just be having like I be
having like times like it berandom, like different times in
my life.
I feel like it'd be like once ayear like depression be on and
off, so like I hope I'm not likein that stage yeah, that's why
you got to stay active, for sure, yeah, and it's good thing you
say you're comfortable earlier.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Tell me you're comfortable, that's good, that
you're not afraid to meet peopleand stuff and be.
That's gonna make you a greatbarber too, because I know
that's how avery is bepersonable and able to have
relationships with peoplewithout being afraid, because
then you're like me yeah be, youwill take your own advice here,
because there you go, take thatown advice yeah, because I
struggle with that, but then Istruggle with depression I'm not
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scared to meet people alone,like introduce myself and stuff
like that, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
But everybody in arizona's like happy and
friendly and all that so it'seasy out here, but I when I
started I didn't talk to peopleI didn't know.
Yeah, back home.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
We in washington we don't do that.
If somebody talks to you, yougive them a look like yeah, it's
weird it's weird that you'retrying to talk to me right now.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
They have classes in high school, like about that do
they?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
yeah, you know we ain't been in high school in
about 20 years that's good thatthey did because of mental
health, though.
That's why it's it's a bigthing right now but there's also
a lot of kids that don't knowhow to talk to people yeah like
I literally didn't know how totalk to people until I became a
barber, and it wasn't untilafter, like the first year yeah,
you didn't even know how totalk to me, excuse me no, really
(18:55):
your communication skills hasgotten a lot better what I'm
just being serious erica, youknow, I met you 10 years ago I
know, isn't that crazy, butthat's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
10 years ago you were not how you are now you don't
know what I said 10 years agoeither.
I said no, whatever I'm saying.
Like, come on, dog, you didn'tknow how to like communicate, so
I couldn't imagine how youwould communicate with.
You know people as a barber.
So that's definitely whathelped you a lot, cause now you
hate when people don'tcommunicate with you.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I don't know what you're talking about In the shop
.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Like you said, when they text you and then or you
text them and they don't respond, and men just don't want to
communicate.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, it's just a naturally a guy's thing to not
be good at communicating.
You know a lot of guys areprideful and they don't want you
to know what's going on, andall that I've been telling my
clients straight up.
Man, me and my girl got into ittoday, man, we be in there
talking.
Man, let me tell you about mybrother.
(19:59):
Man, that's fine, though,because sometimes you need
people to tell you.
Yeah, sometimes you need aExactly Sometimes you need that
outside opinion because theydon't have any emotions involved
.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's not bias.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It is bias, because they're my client.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I know I feel like I should have been a therapist.
No, I'm just playing.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You should have been a therapist, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
They do make a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Yeah, because I feel like what you don't think, I
could be a therapist.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You gotta do a sit down talk.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I feel like, like because I get it, though you
have to understand.
I've been there where, like Igrew up at, my mom said I never
would talk.
I would always be in my room bymyself because she never we
never had talked as a family, wenever communicated, it was
always yelling arguing.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
How does this make you a good therapist?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
because I feel like I , it also involves psychology.
I kind of understand why peopledo what they do.
I have empathy for people tooand I give people grace.
You know, I'm not like, I'm notgonna not give you a chance to
figure out what is going on withyou, what's wrong.
I've done that with you no, youhaven't.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes, I have okay whatever you just say, I don't
communicate with you.
That's fine.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Everyone else has no problem with me, just you.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
When did you give me grace?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I give you grace, all the time.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
But I'm also telling you where you're wrong.
But no, it's just like if Guyneeded to talk to me about
something, I would sit listen.
And it's because I have a lotof like wisdom, Like I've been
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through a lot of things, so Ican give ask you something.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Do people ask you about your hands?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Uh, not really Like, not not anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Do you tell people about your hands?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I mean in high school , like early high school
freshman year, sophomore yearpeople didn't really know.
But yeah, I like explained tothem what happened but like
nobody's really asked In thepast couple years.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
So let me ask you this Does it make you
Embarrassed or anything?
No, I just ask, cause sometimespeople ask Like hey, man, what
happened to your brother'sfingers who I can't tell you.
All that?
Somebody did ask and I justtold him I don't even notice.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Do you know A?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
him like I don't even notice.
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
yeah, a lot of people don't notice until like I'd be
at school and I like take themup, it's like that.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I'm up like I thought that they don't really be
noticing I don't feel like it'ssomething that big of a deal you
want to tell the story.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, I'll tell the story okay, um, I'll tell the
story.
Okay, um, when I was born, well, first, when my dad was born,
he was born with a first.
It's called syndactyly.
Uh, it's hands and feet, um,it's like your fingers are
connected and stuff and likeyour tendons are messed up in
your hands and stuff and it's itand it's it cause you.
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So, like my hand, like myfinger, I can't, I can't
straighten it Like it's, it'sstuck like this Halfway.
And then the little one.
I have a little finger, my ringfinger, on my right hand, and
then this, like my bigger hand,cause like it stretch out A
little bit more.
So like this hand small andthis hand big.
So that's something I had torecognize.
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And then, but yeah, my dad wasborn with it.
His wasn't as bad, Like he wasable to go to the doctor when he
was a kid and just get like,just get the little because he
had his connection just by alittle piece of skin.
So he was able to get his fixto normal.
But mine was like a little bitmore complicated.
I had about Seven or eightsurgeries Between fourth grade
(23:55):
and when I was born, yeah, I hadto get surgery Like Soon, as I
was born, I had like threesurgeries and then, yeah, that's
about it.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, and it doesn't affect how you cut hair or
anything.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Nothing, I mean.
What's it called when you'redoing A little sheer work With
it, called when you're doing alittle sheer work with you?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
know yeah, when you're grabbing the hair.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, yeah make sure you guideline I got to do it
with my ring finger and my pinky.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I just be having to learn like how to do it, ways to
go around it, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Like do it my own way and stuff.
But I think I was in sixthgrade one time I was cool with
him.
He thought I was faking and hehad grabbed my finger and like
pulled it back.
I about beat the brakes on him.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Nah, when I was younger, I used to.
When you was a kid, I used tothink like dang man, I'm
terrified for you to go toschool, because I used to think
somebody step on it and then itopen up all the way.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, if somebody step on it, like it probably
like go to the side, it probablymight, it might.
I mean I've never had thathappen, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, I used to.
I used to be terrified of that,because you know kids in school
, they don't be watching wherethey're going.
Yeah, They'll step on yourfinger, you on the floor with
your hands out.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, they'll step on your hands for sure that has
happened before and when I wasliving in Iowa City it was
reading time on the carpet, theywent to their desk and stepped
right on my hand Dang.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, but yeah no, Crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
That's rough Dang.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
That's rough, dang, that's rough.
But another story is like mylast one.
I had pins in my hand, likegoing from like the top of my
finger.
It was like down the middle ofmy bone all the way to my joint
to keep my fingers stiff so itcan grow the right way.
But I was playing with mycousin J Leah and see, I hit me
with a pillow and I put my handup to reflect the pillow and it
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hit my hand and it like bent ita little bit.
I went in the bathroom where Iwould look like Curly Fries from
Arby's.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I was like why you gotta go into details like that
it was disgusting, and thenanother time um.
I gotta put an advisory on thisepisode.
Boy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
No, when I was, like when it first happened, like
like a week after, like I gotout of surgery, I had my cast on
and when I was outside playingand some girl did a cartwheel
and her leg came up and hit thetop of the cast and like they
had left the cast open a littlebit so my hands can get some air
and hit the top of the cast andit hurt so bad.
(26:37):
I didn't know what was wrongwith it but like I went back in
the house crying like 45 minutes.
Blood was just running out ofthe cast.
My god, it was so disgusting.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
My mom wasn't there, nothing I had to.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Just I didn't know what to do that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That's crazy have you ever had any surgeries?
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Any major surgeries no.
Or broke a bone no.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You never broken a bone.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Have I had any surgery?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You wasn't outside enough.
No, no I really don't.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Hey, tell them about the elbow.
You thought you was Superman.
Hold on, man, what?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You wasn't even he trying to tell stories, he
wasn't even born for what Storyabout elbow?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I broke my arm.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I just broke my arm, that's it.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I didn't know you broke your arm, I just know the
story about when Mike jumped onyou and that hurt your back.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
That's why your tailbone's like that's a
different story.
I ain't never heard that one.
My spine is crooked.
You got what mom got when Istand, that's why he walks a
certain way.
No, when I stand, one of myshoulders is lower.
When I work out and stuff,Because Mike jumped on my.
I was sitting up on the bed,right.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
This boy jumped on my shoulders, put his legs around
here and here and just jumpedand I was like, oh, I don't know
if my spine went down like this, but it hurt so bad I couldn't
move.
Hey, he was terrible so theelbow story.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
This is the elbow story.
Go ahead.
I was a kid, right, we wasplaying around.
It was me, mike, and somebodyelse's kid, I don't remember who
, but he was a baby.
I jumped off this bike.
He throws his bottle where I'mjumping, bam laying right on it.
Boy, I was knocked out, but atleast that's what I was told.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Woke up in the cast Did you feel it Woke up in the
cast.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I just woke up in the cast.
That's how it be man.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
That's how it be.
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
See you, that's how I be.
Yeah, that's all right.
That's crazy.
See you never had like a thirddegree burn or nothing.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
No, it must be nice.
Oh, actually.
No, I know I have like a.
I used to have a burn from whenI touched.
No, just like an oven burn,normal burn I've never had
anything crazy happen to me.
I've never broken a bone, neverhad a a surgery.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Hey, Erica takes.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
No, I just don't really do activities.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Erica takes pans out the oven with her bare hands.
What Thank you.
I know I'm not tripping.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Hey, you got to have at least five kids to do that.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Hey, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Crazy boy.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
No, I really I haven't had anything crazy like
that happen to me.
The most I've had is me passingout.
That's it, nothing else.
Can't think of anything else.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
So how does?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
it feel to live in Iowa now, I mean not Iowa,
arizona, arizona.
It's hot out here right now.
You moved in the summer.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I ain't gonna lie, I really don't mind the heat.
Like it's not that bad to me.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
It's not that bad to me, but it's supposed to get
worse, right yeah?
Like 120?
Yeah, it's supposed to get 120.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
It gets up there.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But anything from one T and a 120 feel the same.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Okay, it's just hot.
I mean, I really don't mind it.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I'll go play basketball right now.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
No, you tripping.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You're going to die out there, boy, I really don't
mind it.
You're going to get heat stroke.
I mean I just moved out here.
Well, it's been like a wholeweek now.
Yep, it's been one whole weekBoring so far.
But I love the scenery of uharizona.
You know palm trees love it,never get tired of it yeah facts
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.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah, hopefully it'll be better a lot of places to
shop, a lot of places to eat, Imean, but I ain't never got
nothing to do yeah yeah, butthat's gonna change six years
yeah
Speaker 1 (30:30):
so it don't really get old to me.
I don't know about you.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well, because we don't get to like, experience
all that, yet we don't really beout like that.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, but I All we do is Topgolf.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, but that's cool , Because I mean, they're
building so much stuff closer,but I feel like we've done
everything close.
We haven't done stuff this far.
We haven, or even all ofChandler.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Arizona.
Big man, I know it's going totake a long time.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
You want to go in the mountains?
I've never been in themountains before.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
We should have taken more.
We went with Chris.
Yeah, we don't hike.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
We just drive to the top.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, I'm serious.
No, people die that drive crazythough that drive is crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
They were scared.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
He was flying, wasn't he?
No, I was like this.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Because Chris was like Holding on to the steering
wheel while I was getting,because there's no railing for
like the roads when you'returning, so all you all is it's
down from there and you're goingthousands of feet up.
And I remember him going like alittle bit over the speed limit
on these winding roads andChris being like hey, hey, you
can slow down right here.
And you were still going.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You're, you can slow down right here and you were
still going.
You're gonna snitch.
It was scary, but but it's coolbecause you can see the whole
city.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
I mean all the cities .
You can see all the cities, soit's cool yeah, I've still
haven't learned like I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I'm gonna explore Phoenix, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Phoenix is, phoenix is Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, I don't you say it dirty, but like that can't
be like.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
The whole Phoenix.
No, it's different areas.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
It's different areas.
Yeah, every city has a dirtyarea.
It's different from the EastValley.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I think the East Valley Is more for me.
Some people are like oh, itain't enough Black people out
here.
It ain't enough.
This, it ain't enough that Isee black people all the time
it's a little bit everything outhere.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
It's a variety also.
I just feel like it's cleanerhere.
It is more like scottsdale in away yeah whereas phoenix is
more.
Not.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's the only difference um but I I also feel
like, when people say there'snot enough black people they're
looking for, like they're fromsomewhere where its majority is
black people, because I mean, weliterally have everything
around here hispanic asians youjust saw last night everything,
yeah like so yeah last night wewent to juneteenth block party
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there's a lot of black peopleout there, so and it's just
growing more and more shout outmy boy jazz, he he black now.
Yeah, he's down.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
No, but I mean and all of that will change too,
Once you have a car and you'reable to get around on your own.
You don't have to depend on usand wait around on us, and then
you meet your friends that havecars.
You know what I mean.
You have your own money to gospend on whatever you want to go
do and experience life.
It's going to be good.
I you want to go do andexperience life, it's going to
be good.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I want to try Dave's hot chicken, but he act like he
don't want to take me.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I tried it already.
You tried it, I ain't had it.
I'm going to say this Dave'shot chicken is not good.
No, okay, I'm going to takethat back.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's your opinion.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Dave's hot chicken is more hot than flavor, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
It's more hot than flavor, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It's spicy, it's not.
Yes, the flavor's not there tome.
Okay, I mean it's cool, butit's just not the flavor's not
there to me.
I don't know.
It's me to me.
You got to try it for yourself.
People crazy about it, but Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Have, we had that.
We've had it together.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
No, I had it in Vegas .
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, that's Vegas.
I went to Vegas.
What you mean they?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
was not chicken.
They was not chicken.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's like saying oh , In-N-Out good, but that's
Vegas In-N-Out good, or it ain't.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
No no.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
It's not the same.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
No In-N-Out was fire, but it ain't all that like you
were saying it was.
It's still fire, though Ididn't say anything that was on
it Uh well like but people hypeit up that way.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, the burgers are good, but the fries are not
that good.
Yeah, like regular fries.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
That's a good burger, mm-hmm.
Yeah, I got a question.
Okay, you got 10 secondsQuestion when did you see
yourself when you were like 10years old, Like growing up?
Where did you see yourself LikeDid you see yourself here or I
didn't.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I would not be in Arizona If I didn't meet Erica.
She dragged me out here by myhands and feet and beat me with
wet knees.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I had to convince.
You know it was me and Levantethat convinced him, cause we
came out To visit the kids,cause you know my what.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
You think, levante, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Oh, I don't know, I just remember the conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
No we came out here To visit, cause I never met the
kids.
So we came out To see them andI was like, oh, these look nice
Out here.
We flew into Vegas and then wedrove here.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Dang why y'all ain't just fly here.
It's only four hours.
It was cheaper.
It was cheaper to fly to Vegas.
Yeah, it's just a four-hourdrive.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
We got a rental and drove here.
We're going to have a rentaleither way, okay.
But yeah, we probably shouldhave just flew in here, yeah.
But when we first got here Iwas like, oh, this cool, it's
nice out here.
They're not seeing the head ofGanya's grill, so you want to
move it's not but look, and thenwe went to Tucson.
(35:38):
Now it's like, oh, I can't livehere.
Well, tucson is.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I used to live in.
Tucson.
That's where the kids live.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
And it looks different.
Tucson is what I expectedPhoenix to look like, because
they say, oh, it's the desert,it's the desert, but they don't
realize, like it's a city here.
You know what I'm saying.
Out there it's a city, but it's.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
It's more desert it's a city than there is desert
yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
And it's and everybody that that live there
or lives there Knows it'schanged a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I was out there looking at cactuses.
It wasn't even palm, it waspalm trees, but it was cactuses.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Heavy.
I've never seen like a tallcactus, like a human-sized
cactus.
They got it out there for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I mean, I just feel like because Arizona is so close
to California, we have more oflike what California looks like
compared to I agree.
Yeah, so it's like pretty muchthe same literally Facts, Except
for we don't have LA.
It's the same thing.
But yeah, I used to live inTucson years ago and I always
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said I was going to always moveback to Arizona because my
oldest kids were here.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
And I asked her what's one place you would want
to live that you'd never want tomove from?
Because you look at Washingtonlike we look at iowa, like it's
not for me, I don't want to bethere.
Yeah, um, so she said arizonaand I said let's go visit.
What do you?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
know that was because , remember, we moved to iowa
yeah no, I was tired of moving.
No, I'm trying to say the storywe moved to iowa, remember from
washington, tried that out,we're there for six months.
That was a no for us.
We even moved to where we were.
We moved to Iowa, remember fromWashington, tried that out,
we're there for six months.
That was a no for us.
We even moved to where we weregoing to move to Des Moines.
We were in Cedar Rapids.
We said, okay, where else couldwe live?
(37:21):
You asked me that would makeyou happy than to be here or
back home, and I said Arizona.
That's where my kids are.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Well, where else were y'all thinking that's it.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Just moving back to Washington.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
No, we did move back to Washington.
This is when we moved back toWashington.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Okay, so, yeah, what about you, erica?
Where did you see yourselfgrowing up?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Arizona, arizona.
Well, yes, arizona because ofthe kids.
But I always wanted to live inCalifornia.
I've always been likeCalifornia is where I want to
live because of the palm trees,the vibe, everything.
And then now I hear Californiais not at all what it used to be
.
Now it's like you're better offbeing in Northern California
(38:03):
than Southern California, likeeven LA.
It's not what it used to be atall.
I whack so many people that havemoved from LA and basically
it's like people are shooting updrugs on the street.
There's feces on the street,it's just, it's not good it is
not what they show.
It's not what it yeah that wasthe only reason why I ever
wanted to move there.
I wanted to live in la I sawmyself as a la girl.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
That's crazy I never wanted to.
I never saw myself outside ofiowa because we never like when
I was a kid.
We never saw myself outside ofIowa because we never like when
I was a kid, we never sawnothing outside of Iowa unless
you were watching TV, yeah, fair.
So I never seen myself outsideof Iowa and we didn't really
travel as a kid.
We didn't go nowhere.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, the first time I got onan airplane we went to Hungary,
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we went to Europe and that'swhere we lived and that was it
Okay.
My whole time as a kid I waslike I want to be a dad, I want
to be married, I want to have agood household, this, that and
the other, but I didn't knowwhere, so I didn't know.
I was going to be in Arizona.
You know what I mean.
I didn't know I was ever goingto move out of Iowa, I think you
thought you would be havestayed in Washington, but I do
(39:09):
think that leaving Iowa waswhat's best for me.
I feel like you can only do somuch in Iowa.
But it was also a I don't wantto move somewhere where I don't
know anyone, because then it'slike I don't want to move to a
bad neighborhood.
I don't want to be caught upwith the wrong people.
So I was always afraid ofmoving out of Iowa.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, so you've seen yourself in Iowa the whole time.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, because all our family was there.
Yeah, I didn't know nobody inTennessee.
We had family in Tennessee.
I didn't know any of them.
And then my brother was theonly person I knew that lived
outside of Iowa.
So I went to visit him.
I was never thinking, oh, I'mgoing to move here one day.
I was just like, let me govisit him and see how he doing
out there, just to go visit.
I was never like, oh, one dayI'm going to move over here with
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my brother.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Is it like Iowa out there?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's different, it's getting worse though.
It's different.
I don't think it's like Iowa.
I think there's a lot ofHispanics out there.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And one thing I learned about Washington was
like ownership, becauseHispanics believe in ownership.
You learn from other culturesbut they're very, very family
oriented, which I feel like Inour, in our family.
We're family oriented to anextent.
You know what I mean.
They're family oriented towhere it's like you grow up as
an adult, you stay in thehousehold but you take this one
bill.
Yeah, mom got one bill, dad gotone bill, brother got one bill,
uncle got one bill and theyjust they look out for one
(40:37):
another like that.
But there's also no like.
I feel like with blackhouseholds we have a lot more
issues.
We have a lot more things thatwe worry about and we don't
always think about each other,but there are also and we don't
always think about each other,but there's also like we just
lost the family aspect.
We don't have men in householdsanymore.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so that's the biggestdifference that I learned out
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there in Washington yeah, andthe Latino family.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
I learned how to cut hair.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I learned all that, yeah.
So it was cool, but it wasdifferent.
Where did you see yourself?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
You know, kind of like what you said in Iowa I
didn't know nothing outside ofIowa except for watching TV.
So one day I had seen, I wasthinking about like where I want
to move, because I know.
I ain't want to stay in Iowaand so I had seen.
I was like watching a wholebunch of movies I seen Friday.
You know it's good Like showinghow the West Coast looks and
(41:34):
stuff.
Yes, and I'm like, yeah, yeah,that's nice.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I know that's nice.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
The palm trees and stuff, and then I don't know
what movie it was, but it's kindof like all American you know
and the street they live on.
It's like the palm trees goingall the way down the street.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Yeah, that's what you see when you're driving on the
10.
It looks so nice.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
And then you remember the post you had shared on
Instagram with the old school LAmusic.
And then it's like blue skies,like just straight sun and blue
skies, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
All that.
Yeah, I feel like it makes youhappy, yeah that's what you say.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
You said it makes you want to make money palm trees,
yeah, that's what well alsobecause, like we've said before,
even out here, it's like it isa lot like california in the
sense where, because you have somany californians living here,
yeah that it's even more so likethat, where people here like,
even now, me being a waxer, ohmy god, people have like money
(42:36):
because they just they believein having businesses.
They believe in like doingsomething.
You got to do something,whether you are your
entrepreneur, you went to school, whatever it is, but I feel
like that's what drives you towant more, because you see,
people around you that arealways trying to.
They're always motivated anddoing more.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
You know but see for I, for us in iowa, it was more
of a.
It's almost like you're in abox and you're always looking
out watching tv was us lookingout?
Because we had commercials ofrestaurants we didn't even have
yeah you know what I mean.
We had golden corral commercials, we had all these different
commercials.
We never had any of it.
So it's like, oh, that's what'sgoing on in the world, that's
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cool, but that don't happen hereand we'll probably never be
able to go there.
You know what I mean.
So now it's like we didn't seeno successful black people in
our neighborhoods.
We didn't see successful peopleat all for real.
Real.
They look like us.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
You always talk about the cars.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
We never seen nothing .
Speaker 4 (43:34):
You always say that people just have old cars.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Oh yeah, absolutely, or the houses are all not the
houses are all older here, it'smore modern.
Like we never seen stuff likethis in person.
We seen it on TV, even backhome.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Like back home we don't see the cars that we see,
like the McLarens and Maseratisand all of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, we've been behind them.
You've not seen a McLaren outhere.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Yeah, they come from Scottsdale.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
No, I got a client.
Yeah, you'll see them.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
There's the Alfa Romeros, the Maseratis, the
McLarens, the Lamborghinis, thePorsche, even just a a lot of
Mercedes, bmws, like that's allyou see driving around.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Those are like normal cars out here though yeah, but
also you see brand new carsgetting drove off the lot right.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
We don't see that at all.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
It's always hey, who got a $1500 car for sale?
And it's like we ain't reallygot money like that in Iowa.
It's not money like that inIowa, and there are places like
that in Iowa.
It's not money like that inIowa.
There are places like that.
You know what?
I'm saying Smaller cities wedon't have access to a lot of
these things.
You can drive down the highwayand you can go to an Ashton
Martin dealership.
It's just access that you haveout here.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
It's access yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
But everyone has something going on a side,
hustle whatever to where theyare here getting to it.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
I feel like there's a lot of opportunity to be
successful.
That's why I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Facts, facts.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So, yeah, that's about it for this episode.
Okay.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
All right.
Yeah, but anyways, yes, happy.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Father's.
Day to you what time is?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
it, don't worry about it, sweetheart.
About time we finna grill.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I'm finna grill.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I have to help you.
I'm finna grill.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I can't cook.
That's crazy.
Anyways like subscribe.
If you on Apple Music, you knowwhat I'm saying.
Subscribe or, however they doit, follow us Spotify as well,
all that, but yeah, we'll be allour social medias.
Follow guys youtube yo boy man,he got his youtube channel, he
do vlogs y-o-b-o-a-n-n-y tellhim to start vlogging what he
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doing in school so we can see ifthey let me, if they allow me,
they better.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Cause this ain't high school Facts.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Alright, we'll catch y'all.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
In the next one, peace.
all right, hello out there in tv land.
We back with another episode.
This is the other half podcast.
We got my little big brother.
He go by guy manny marvinmaxwell jamal malik I don't even
know buddy real name for real,but yeah, this is my lion
(00:25):
brother.
This is my lion little brotherman Talk.
Okay, he got his own YouTubechannel.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
He cut hair.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
He cutting hair.
He about to go to barber school.
He just moved to Arizona.
He lit yeah On online he thereal seven baby, but he's not
seven foot.
So I just want y'all to knowthat I'm halfway there.
Anyways, let's get into thisicebreaker Powered by Hella
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really dope.
And it is Father's Day today,just so y'all know yes, so happy
father's day to all the fathers, mentors yes, everybody coaches
, all that anybody who everplayed a role in somebody's life
yes, and happy father's day toyou well, I appreciate that
you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I appreciate that.
Appreciate that you're welcome.
I appreciate that.
So it's an icebreaker, allright.
So the icebreaker of today isare you living the life that you
always dreamed of?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
now we're gonna let you go first, sir, since you're
the guest well, first, all right, since you're new here.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Uh, he gotta clear his throat too look, I'll say
I'll say yeah, like at this, atthis, at this age, like at this
moment of time, yeah, but likeuh, but yeah, like at this age,
I'll say yeah, but of coursewhen I get older and stuff, like
(02:04):
, I have other plans and stuff,but for right now, yeah, like
I'm on track.
Why do you feel that?
Because, like, I've alwayswanted to move to Arizona, like
it's been my plan since eighthgrade, my first time coming out
here, I wanted to move out here.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Wait.
So I have a question then, nowthat you just said that since
eighth grade but so is thatbecause, like you, have friends
that are out here that you heardabout Arizona, or was it like
ever since Avery moved out hereand are you?
Just always wanted to move toArizona.
In general, yeah my first timevisiting.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
My first time visiting it was like it was like
really nice and stuff and likey'all got everything out here.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Like.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I used to be really big so I was like heavy on food.
Y'all got all the food out here.
You know you, it's never boringout here.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
That boy was big on food, what yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
That's why I be trying to tell people there's so
much to do.
You can't be bored in it.
But the problem yeah,everything costs money to do
something.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So let me ask you this how much you used to weigh?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
300.
I was at.
I was at 296.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
The highest 298.
Isn't that like, not abnormal?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But what you is now Two you said 215.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
241.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
241.
You hear that we're makingprogress out here in these
streets.
The sun got the skin fallingoff them sounds like butter in a
skillet alright so your turnma'am okay.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
So for me, I feel like, although I'm thankful to
have you know, my family, mykids, a husband, my job, my
citizenship, like that's thebiggest thing.
Um, I am thankful for all ofthat, although I feel like I'm
destined for more.
So I'm still aspiring for morefor my family, for myself to
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feel really fulfilled, like mycup is full.
So, um, I would say I'm about Iam a little more than halfway
there for me.
What about you?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, I think for me I am right where I want to be.
Of course we can pay off bills,all that that's going to come,
but everything else I think it'spretty good.
I think I just got everything Iwant.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's so crazy to me, though, because you're so sweet.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I always wanted kids.
I always wanted to livesomewhere where it doesn't snow.
I always wanted to be able tohelp other people.
I go to work every day.
I love my job.
I talk to people Everybody'scool.
I'm an old head to help otherpeople.
I go to work every day.
You know I love my job.
I talk to people Everybody'scool.
I'm an old head in the shop now, so I get to see the young dumb
people.
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I get to see the older peoplewho I can learn from, and then I
get to give all the informationto everybody else.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, Well, I'm happy for you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So yeah, I think I'm where I want to be, but I mean,
obviously there's more.
We could always improve onfinances and stuff like that,
but for the most part I meanwhen I say that.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
That's all I mean by like.
You've heard me say thisalready.
I just mean, like you ever seenthat the saying like you work
five days a week.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
And then you have like two.
What is it?
They say, you have like 48hours to yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
That's not living to me.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So I just want to get to the point where I'm working
less, you're working less, butwe still have the means for
things that we want the kidslike whatever they need.
I mean not like necessity-wise,but they need um.
I mean not like necessity wise,but things that they want, you
know um, and just like more forthem, like I said, more more
space, things like that, just toreally feel like we're living
(05:52):
life.
And I think for me it hitsharder because I'm older than
you.
I'm older than you and I feellike I excuse me, grandma, you
know I just I.
I don't want to.
I only have so many more yearsto live and I don't want to be
like in the same predicament fortoo long.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah makes sense, see , but I didn't.
I never wanted to be thatperson that was.
I see so many people chasingfinances, like so many people,
and it's like they put thatabove everything.
So I feel like for me, I alwayswent the opposite way.
Of course it matters, but tosome people it only matters,
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like I know people who arescared to have kids.
I know people who puteverything to the side and put
work, work, work.
You know what I mean, and Ithink we have somewhat of a
decent balance with that right,because I feel like in the
future, you'll be able to workless and you'll make more, and
that's the goal for me.
(06:52):
You know, what I mean To haveyou be comfortable and not have
to work as much as I do and dosomething you enjoy.
That's a good answer, huh, girl, I know Girl.
All right, since today isFather's Day, we are going to
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give flowers to men, importantmen that are in our lives.
Out of our lives not out of ourlives, I'm tripping in our
lives but just people whodeserve flowers.
Whoever you feel deservesflowers.
It could be our fathers, itcould be coaches, it could be
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mentors, it could be whoever,whoever you know.
There's like a lot of guys whostep up in other people's lives,
so it's important to make sureeverybody gets their flowers.
So you want to start this off,boy.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I'll start it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's not you, ladies, first, but I'm going to let you
go ahead.
I'm going to let you finish.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Erica had the best speech All right, ladies first,
then no, go ahead, ladies first,ladies first.
Okay, I'll say my pops.
Because I'll say my pops.
Because I'll say my pops?
Because, just because I got tohave no reason.
But you know, my dad notperfect, he is in my life, I can
(08:17):
call him Whenever I want to.
That's a flex, that's a flex, aflex, yeah, like I can actually
say, my dad is in my life.
I feel like that's a flex.
That's a flex, mm-hmm, a flex.
Yeah, like I can actually say,my dad is in my life.
I feel like that's a good thing.
There is distance between us,like we don't live in the same
city.
Now, we don't live in the samestate, but when I was back in
Iowa we didn't live in the samecity still.
But, yeah, I do have like Idon't know if my other siblings
(08:40):
I do have, like my.
I don't know if my othersiblings like, if they feel the
same way or if, if they feeldifferent, but I don't, I really
don't know, but I'm, I'm.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I like my pops.
I mean, that's all that.
Yeah, that's all that matters.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You may have a different relationship or
connection anyways.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, and I feel like he's um the reason like that.
I am how I am today and how areyou yeah, in what sense?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
yeah, how are you?
I know you tall, I'm a man boy.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
No, honestly though I will say I really do.
I have to say this go ahead, youknow, because I'm gonna get
your flowers too I really,really commend you for being at
the age that you are and movingaway from where your family is.
I know you have us and we'refamily, but still like to move
away from all your family, yourfriends, um, and to come into a
(09:32):
whole new state, starting fresh.
That's commendable, becausethere's so many people your age
that are just letting it slide,not taking the opportunities and
you know, even if they have it,it's just not.
You have like the motivation.
I feel like that's what it islike.
You're motivated.
The fact that you get up andyou fold your blanket is crazy.
You know, like, yeah, becauseromeo, okay, no, I'm just saying
(10:05):
it really is.
I mean, regardless, if youdidn't do that at home or
whatever.
The fact is that, like you havethe mindset of like, okay, I am
in somebody else's home, it'snot just Avery's home, it's
Erica's home too.
Let me make sure you clean upafter yourself.
I mean everything.
Like I really do appreciatethat about you.
I really do admire the factthat you're very motivated and
that you want to go to barberschool, you want to be a barber
(10:26):
or whatever it is that you wantto do.
I just feel like you're goingto make it really far if you
keep the same mindset that youhave now and you stay motivated.
That's why I told you, I feellike you're a lot like Avery, in
a sense of you like to be busy,you're a go-getter, you don't
wait around for you, and I thinkthat that's what's going to
make you go really far yeah, Iraised him, so yeah but thank
(10:51):
you you're welcome.
I just had to let you know whatabout you, avery?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
what about you?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Erica, ladies, first, who is your father that you
would like?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
to give props to.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I don't have a father , but I said I feel like it's
you because I didn't have thatgrowing up and as we've talked
about this before.
But if you're new coming on thepodcast, and y'all know that
avery fathered my kids and, um,he raised asia and april at one
(11:24):
and two years old.
They are now almost.
April's gonna be 11 this monthand then Asia's 12.
And I would say if I could justgive my speech.
I think it's the fact that youget up every day happy, you
don't complain, you get themready for school, you get them
there on time, you have aroutine.
Everything that he does forthere on time, you have a
(11:45):
routine.
Everything that he does for thekids is like in a schedule, so
that I think it's because, likeyou, don't want them to be
unorganized and have a messed uplife and procrastinate and not
be successful.
So I think that even right now,like you're setting them up for
success and I admire that a lotand that's what made me fall in
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love with you, because I knowthat you're you.
It's like you aspire to be thegreatest dad that you could be.
So I do want you to know Ireally do appreciate you, but I
feel like this should be aneveryday thing, not just a once
a year thing.
Yeah, I feel like you workreally hard, sometimes harder
(12:28):
than you need to.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Hold on, man, I need to work hard.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
No, but you just got through saying that people focus
too much on finances and money,and that's where I feel like
people, parents, we have to takea moment and step back and just
live in the moment and not.
You know, you do work a lotharder than you need to
sometimes.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But it don't feel like work.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
You provide.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You just have it for her.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Then you gotta figure out why I'm just having a jolly
old time.
Oh, it don't feel like work,work.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, it doesn't feel like work.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Well, that's good Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We appreciate your speech.
Okay, we appreciate your speech, girl, we appreciate your
speech.
Let's go See.
You got to do better.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I tell you this stuff all the time, though I don't
need to say it on camera.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't do my speech now.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I tell you this stuff all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, we done.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
No, we're not.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Like subscribe.
All right you.
What was yours?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
All right you.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
What was yours?
All right, I got to give ashout out to my uncle, tony.
Happy Father's Day to him.
I feel like he is someone whodoesn't always get flowers and
he was around a lot.
When I was a kid we used to goto his house, and then later in
life we used to go to his houseand then later in life we used
(13:46):
to, uh, go to his house burn cds.
But he was always around, hewas always available.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
he always welcomed us in his home you should say what
burn cds mean for the youngfolks for the young people when
you burn a cd not actually burna cd cd into a c into a computer
.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It puts songs on there.
You got about 20 songs made,probably less than that.
You got a certain amount oftime, yeah, and then you take
the cd out.
You got songs on, you go toyour car, put in the cd.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's like downloading music from your computer.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Come on man, all right, but yeah, we used to go
to his house burn cds.
Later in life he got me a.
He gave me a ride to and fromthat job.
Then, later in life, after thatI think, he got me another job.
He helped me get a couple jobsand, yeah, he's always been
around and he's always lookedout for me.
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He's always kept me in checkand he's always, you know, he's
just always there.
He's never been a bad person inmy eyes.
He's just.
He's just an uncle.
You know, I mean like I got twouncles.
Well, I got three uncles, butthe uncles I grew up with are my
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uncle tony and my uncle chris,and and Tony is closer in age to
me, so my mom had me at 17, andTony is not that much older
than me, but I always look athim like an older brother rather
than older, like an uncle.
Right, I look at Chris as anuncle, I look at Tony as an
older brother, because I've seenTony grow up in a way to where
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a sibling would see your unclegrow up, in a way to where a
sibling would see your unclegrow up rather than the other,
the other way around.
You know what I mean.
So, yeah, a little my uncle, mylittle uncle, my yeah, shout
out my uncle Tony.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
But I do remember like going to his house.
He lived upstairs in anapartment with, uh, his kid's
mom and uh, yeah, I remembergoing over there as a kid.
So shout out, my uncle okay,yeah, cool so what's your?
What's your other question?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
I know you got it up your sleeve I know I was trying
to remember what it was.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
It was another question I got you, oh it up
your sleeve.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
I know, I was trying to remember what it was.
It was another question I gotyou.
Oh, it was.
So the other question I wantedto do a card for was what you
wanted to accomplish by the endof the year.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, what do you want to accomplish by the end of
the year?
You out here in Arizona.
You know it's wonderful outhere, the weather is good.
You know it's wonderful outhere, the weather's good you can
make up something new.
I can tell you what you say,yeah, Make up something new,
Like just answer.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I mean so you're in Arizona Like what's your plan?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
What's your plan for the year?
What are you here for?
What are you here for?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
What do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
What do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
All year.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Make some friends.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I ain't got no friends.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I mean, I was all day , every day, bored.
You feel me Taking up all thesunlight.
I hope I'm graduating frombarber school by then, so I
could just go right into thebarbershop, and then I hope I'm
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financially happy with myself.
Then, yeah, yeah, that's aboutit that's it okay and everything
else will come after that.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I hope.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I hope life is good, like I hope I'm not that you're
happy yeah, I hope that I'mhappy you wanna be happy, huh.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
What makes you happy, huh?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I don't know, I just I just be having like I be
having like times like it berandom, like different times in
my life.
I feel like it'd be like once ayear like depression be on and
off, so like I hope I'm not likein that stage yeah, that's why
you got to stay active, for sure, yeah, and it's good thing you
say you're comfortable earlier.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Tell me you're comfortable, that's good, that
you're not afraid to meet peopleand stuff and be.
That's gonna make you a greatbarber too, because I know
that's how avery is bepersonable and able to have
relationships with peoplewithout being afraid, because
then you're like me yeah be, youwill take your own advice here,
because there you go, take thatown advice yeah, because I
struggle with that, but then Istruggle with depression I'm not
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scared to meet people alone,like introduce myself and stuff
like that, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
But everybody in arizona's like happy and
friendly and all that so it'seasy out here, but I when I
started I didn't talk to peopleI didn't know.
Yeah, back home.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
We in washington we don't do that.
If somebody talks to you, yougive them a look like yeah, it's
weird it's weird that you'retrying to talk to me right now.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
They have classes in high school, like about that do
they?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
yeah, you know we ain't been in high school in
about 20 years that's good thatthey did because of mental
health, though.
That's why it's it's a bigthing right now but there's also
a lot of kids that don't knowhow to talk to people yeah like
I literally didn't know how totalk to people until I became a
barber, and it wasn't untilafter, like the first year yeah,
you didn't even know how totalk to me, excuse me no, really
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your communication skills hasgotten a lot better what I'm
just being serious erica, youknow, I met you 10 years ago I
know, isn't that crazy, butthat's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
10 years ago you were not how you are now you don't
know what I said 10 years agoeither.
I said no, whatever I'm saying.
Like, come on, dog, you didn'tknow how to like communicate, so
I couldn't imagine how youwould communicate with.
You know people as a barber.
So that's definitely whathelped you a lot, cause now you
hate when people don'tcommunicate with you.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I don't know what you're talking about In the shop
.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Like you said, when they text you and then or you
text them and they don't respond, and men just don't want to
communicate.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, it's just a naturally a guy's thing to not
be good at communicating.
You know a lot of guys areprideful and they don't want you
to know what's going on, andall that I've been telling my
clients straight up.
Man, me and my girl got into ittoday, man, we be in there
talking.
Man, let me tell you about mybrother.
(19:59):
Man, that's fine, though,because sometimes you need
people to tell you.
Yeah, sometimes you need aExactly Sometimes you need that
outside opinion because theydon't have any emotions involved
.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's not bias.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It is bias, because they're my client.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I know I feel like I should have been a therapist.
No, I'm just playing.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You should have been a therapist, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
They do make a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Yeah, because I feel like what you don't think, I
could be a therapist.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You gotta do a sit down talk.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I feel like, like because I get it, though you
have to understand.
I've been there where, like Igrew up at, my mom said I never
would talk.
I would always be in my room bymyself because she never we
never had talked as a family, wenever communicated, it was
always yelling arguing.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
How does this make you a good therapist?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
because I feel like I , it also involves psychology.
I kind of understand why peopledo what they do.
I have empathy for people tooand I give people grace.
You know, I'm not like, I'm notgonna not give you a chance to
figure out what is going on withyou, what's wrong.
I've done that with you no, youhaven't.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes, I have okay whatever you just say, I don't
communicate with you.
That's fine.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Everyone else has no problem with me, just you.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
When did you give me grace?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I give you grace, all the time.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
But I'm also telling you where you're wrong.
But no, it's just like if Guyneeded to talk to me about
something, I would sit listen.
And it's because I have a lotof like wisdom, Like I've been
(21:47):
through a lot of things, so Ican give ask you something.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Do people ask you about your hands?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Uh, not really Like, not not anymore.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Do you tell people about your hands?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I mean in high school , like early high school
freshman year, sophomore yearpeople didn't really know.
But yeah, I like explained tothem what happened but like
nobody's really asked In thepast couple years.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
So let me ask you this Does it make you
Embarrassed or anything?
No, I just ask, cause sometimespeople ask Like hey, man, what
happened to your brother'sfingers who I can't tell you.
All that?
Somebody did ask and I justtold him I don't even notice.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Do you know A?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
him like I don't even notice.
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
yeah, a lot of people don't notice until like I'd be
at school and I like take themup, it's like that.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I'm up like I thought that they don't really be
noticing I don't feel like it'ssomething that big of a deal you
want to tell the story.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, I'll tell the story okay, um, I'll tell the
story.
Okay, um, when I was born, well, first, when my dad was born,
he was born with a first.
It's called syndactyly.
Uh, it's hands and feet, um,it's like your fingers are
connected and stuff and likeyour tendons are messed up in
your hands and stuff and it's itand it's it cause you.
(23:11):
So, like my hand, like myfinger, I can't, I can't
straighten it Like it's, it'sstuck like this Halfway.
And then the little one.
I have a little finger, my ringfinger, on my right hand, and
then this, like my bigger hand,cause like it stretch out A
little bit more.
So like this hand small andthis hand big.
So that's something I had torecognize.
(23:33):
And then, but yeah, my dad wasborn with it.
His wasn't as bad, Like he wasable to go to the doctor when he
was a kid and just get like,just get the little because he
had his connection just by alittle piece of skin.
So he was able to get his fixto normal.
But mine was like a little bitmore complicated.
I had about Seven or eightsurgeries Between fourth grade
(23:55):
and when I was born, yeah, I hadto get surgery Like Soon, as I
was born, I had like threesurgeries and then, yeah, that's
about it.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, and it doesn't affect how you cut hair or
anything.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Nothing, I mean.
What's it called when you'redoing A little sheer work With
it, called when you're doing alittle sheer work with you?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
know yeah, when you're grabbing the hair.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, yeah make sure you guideline I got to do it
with my ring finger and my pinky.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I just be having to learn like how to do it, ways to
go around it, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Like do it my own way and stuff.
But I think I was in sixthgrade one time I was cool with
him.
He thought I was faking and hehad grabbed my finger and like
pulled it back.
I about beat the brakes on him.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Nah, when I was younger, I used to.
When you was a kid, I used tothink like dang man, I'm
terrified for you to go toschool, because I used to think
somebody step on it and then itopen up all the way.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, if somebody step on it, like it probably
like go to the side, it probablymight, it might.
I mean I've never had thathappen, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, I used to.
I used to be terrified of that,because you know kids in school
, they don't be watching wherethey're going.
Yeah, They'll step on yourfinger, you on the floor with
your hands out.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, they'll step on your hands for sure that has
happened before and when I wasliving in Iowa City it was
reading time on the carpet, theywent to their desk and stepped
right on my hand Dang.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, but yeah no, Crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
That's rough Dang.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
That's rough, dang, that's rough.
But another story is like mylast one.
I had pins in my hand, likegoing from like the top of my
finger.
It was like down the middle ofmy bone all the way to my joint
to keep my fingers stiff so itcan grow the right way.
But I was playing with mycousin J Leah and see, I hit me
with a pillow and I put my handup to reflect the pillow and it
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hit my hand and it like bent ita little bit.
I went in the bathroom where Iwould look like Curly Fries from
Arby's.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I was like why you gotta go into details like that
it was disgusting, and thenanother time um.
I gotta put an advisory on thisepisode.
Boy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
No, when I was, like when it first happened, like
like a week after, like I gotout of surgery, I had my cast on
and when I was outside playingand some girl did a cartwheel
and her leg came up and hit thetop of the cast and like they
had left the cast open a littlebit so my hands can get some air
and hit the top of the cast andit hurt so bad.
(26:37):
I didn't know what was wrongwith it but like I went back in
the house crying like 45 minutes.
Blood was just running out ofthe cast.
My god, it was so disgusting.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
My mom wasn't there, nothing I had to.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Just I didn't know what to do that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That's crazy have you ever had any surgeries?
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Any major surgeries no.
Or broke a bone no.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You never broken a bone.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Have I had any surgery?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You wasn't outside enough.
No, no I really don't.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Hey, tell them about the elbow.
You thought you was Superman.
Hold on, man, what?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You wasn't even he trying to tell stories, he
wasn't even born for what Storyabout elbow?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I broke my arm.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I just broke my arm, that's it.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I didn't know you broke your arm, I just know the
story about when Mike jumped onyou and that hurt your back.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
That's why your tailbone's like that's a
different story.
I ain't never heard that one.
My spine is crooked.
You got what mom got when Istand, that's why he walks a
certain way.
No, when I stand, one of myshoulders is lower.
When I work out and stuff,Because Mike jumped on my.
I was sitting up on the bed,right.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
This boy jumped on my shoulders, put his legs around
here and here and just jumpedand I was like, oh, I don't know
if my spine went down like this, but it hurt so bad I couldn't
move.
Hey, he was terrible so theelbow story.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
This is the elbow story.
Go ahead.
I was a kid, right, we wasplaying around.
It was me, mike, and somebodyelse's kid, I don't remember who
, but he was a baby.
I jumped off this bike.
He throws his bottle where I'mjumping, bam laying right on it.
Boy, I was knocked out, but atleast that's what I was told.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Woke up in the cast Did you feel it Woke up in the
cast.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I just woke up in the cast.
That's how it be man.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
That's how it be.
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
See you, that's how I be.
Yeah, that's all right.
That's crazy.
See you never had like a thirddegree burn or nothing.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
No, it must be nice.
Oh, actually.
No, I know I have like a.
I used to have a burn from whenI touched.
No, just like an oven burn,normal burn I've never had
anything crazy happen to me.
I've never broken a bone, neverhad a a surgery.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Hey, Erica takes.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
No, I just don't really do activities.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Erica takes pans out the oven with her bare hands.
What Thank you.
I know I'm not tripping.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Hey, you got to have at least five kids to do that.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Hey, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Crazy boy.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
No, I really I haven't had anything crazy like
that happen to me.
The most I've had is me passingout.
That's it, nothing else.
Can't think of anything else.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
So how does?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
it feel to live in Iowa now, I mean not Iowa,
arizona, arizona.
It's hot out here right now.
You moved in the summer.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I ain't gonna lie, I really don't mind the heat.
Like it's not that bad to me.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
It's not that bad to me, but it's supposed to get
worse, right yeah?
Like 120?
Yeah, it's supposed to get 120.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
It gets up there.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But anything from one T and a 120 feel the same.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Okay, it's just hot.
I mean, I really don't mind it.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I'll go play basketball right now.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
No, you tripping.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You're going to die out there, boy, I really don't
mind it.
You're going to get heat stroke.
I mean I just moved out here.
Well, it's been like a wholeweek now.
Yep, it's been one whole weekBoring so far.
But I love the scenery of uharizona.
You know palm trees love it,never get tired of it yeah facts
(30:18):
.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah, hopefully it'll be better a lot of places to
shop, a lot of places to eat, Imean, but I ain't never got
nothing to do yeah yeah, butthat's gonna change six years
yeah
Speaker 1 (30:30):
so it don't really get old to me.
I don't know about you.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well, because we don't get to like, experience
all that, yet we don't really beout like that.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, but I All we do is Topgolf.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, but that's cool , Because I mean, they're
building so much stuff closer,but I feel like we've done
everything close.
We haven't done stuff this far.
We haven, or even all ofChandler.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Arizona.
Big man, I know it's going totake a long time.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
You want to go in the mountains?
I've never been in themountains before.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
We should have taken more.
We went with Chris.
Yeah, we don't hike.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
We just drive to the top.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, I'm serious.
No, people die that drive crazythough that drive is crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
They were scared.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
He was flying, wasn't he?
No, I was like this.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Because Chris was like Holding on to the steering
wheel while I was getting,because there's no railing for
like the roads when you'returning, so all you all is it's
down from there and you're goingthousands of feet up.
And I remember him going like alittle bit over the speed limit
on these winding roads andChris being like hey, hey, you
can slow down right here.
And you were still going.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You're, you can slow down right here and you were
still going.
You're gonna snitch.
It was scary, but but it's coolbecause you can see the whole
city.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
I mean all the cities .
You can see all the cities, soit's cool yeah, I've still
haven't learned like I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I'm gonna explore Phoenix, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Phoenix is, phoenix is Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, I don't you say it dirty, but like that can't
be like.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
The whole Phoenix.
No, it's different areas.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
It's different areas.
Yeah, every city has a dirtyarea.
It's different from the EastValley.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I think the East Valley Is more for me.
Some people are like oh, itain't enough Black people out
here.
It ain't enough.
This, it ain't enough that Isee black people all the time
it's a little bit everything outhere.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
It's a variety also.
I just feel like it's cleanerhere.
It is more like scottsdale in away yeah whereas phoenix is
more.
Not.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's the only difference um but I I also feel
like, when people say there'snot enough black people they're
looking for, like they're fromsomewhere where its majority is
black people, because I mean, weliterally have everything
around here hispanic asians youjust saw last night everything,
yeah like so yeah last night wewent to juneteenth block party
(32:42):
there's a lot of black peopleout there, so and it's just
growing more and more shout outmy boy jazz, he he black now.
Yeah, he's down.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
No, but I mean and all of that will change too,
Once you have a car and you'reable to get around on your own.
You don't have to depend on usand wait around on us, and then
you meet your friends that havecars.
You know what I mean.
You have your own money to gospend on whatever you want to go
do and experience life.
It's going to be good.
I you want to go do andexperience life, it's going to
be good.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I want to try Dave's hot chicken, but he act like he
don't want to take me.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I tried it already.
You tried it, I ain't had it.
I'm going to say this Dave'shot chicken is not good.
No, okay, I'm going to takethat back.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's your opinion.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Dave's hot chicken is more hot than flavor, if that
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
It's more hot than flavor, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It's spicy, it's not.
Yes, the flavor's not there tome.
Okay, I mean it's cool, butit's just not the flavor's not
there to me.
I don't know.
It's me to me.
You got to try it for yourself.
People crazy about it, but Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Have, we had that.
We've had it together.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
No, I had it in Vegas .
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, that's Vegas.
I went to Vegas.
What you mean they?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
was not chicken.
They was not chicken.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's like saying oh , In-N-Out good, but that's
Vegas In-N-Out good, or it ain't.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
No no.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
It's not the same.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
No In-N-Out was fire, but it ain't all that like you
were saying it was.
It's still fire, though Ididn't say anything that was on
it Uh well like but people hypeit up that way.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, the burgers are good, but the fries are not
that good.
Yeah, like regular fries.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
That's a good burger, mm-hmm.
Yeah, I got a question.
Okay, you got 10 secondsQuestion when did you see
yourself when you were like 10years old, Like growing up?
Where did you see yourself LikeDid you see yourself here or I
didn't.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I would not be in Arizona If I didn't meet Erica.
She dragged me out here by myhands and feet and beat me with
wet knees.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
I had to convince.
You know it was me and Levantethat convinced him, cause we
came out To visit the kids,cause you know my what.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
You think, levante, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Oh, I don't know, I just remember the conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
No we came out here To visit, cause I never met the
kids.
So we came out To see them andI was like, oh, these look nice
Out here.
We flew into Vegas and then wedrove here.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Dang why y'all ain't just fly here.
It's only four hours.
It was cheaper.
It was cheaper to fly to Vegas.
Yeah, it's just a four-hourdrive.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
We got a rental and drove here.
We're going to have a rentaleither way, okay.
But yeah, we probably shouldhave just flew in here, yeah.
But when we first got here Iwas like, oh, this cool, it's
nice out here.
They're not seeing the head ofGanya's grill, so you want to
move it's not but look, and thenwe went to Tucson.
(35:38):
Now it's like, oh, I can't livehere.
Well, tucson is.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I used to live in.
Tucson.
That's where the kids live.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
And it looks different.
Tucson is what I expectedPhoenix to look like, because
they say, oh, it's the desert,it's the desert, but they don't
realize, like it's a city here.
You know what I'm saying.
Out there it's a city, but it's.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
It's more desert it's a city than there is desert
yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
And it's and everybody that that live there
or lives there Knows it'schanged a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I was out there looking at cactuses.
It wasn't even palm, it waspalm trees, but it was cactuses.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Heavy.
I've never seen like a tallcactus, like a human-sized
cactus.
They got it out there for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I mean, I just feel like because Arizona is so close
to California, we have more oflike what California looks like
compared to I agree.
Yeah, so it's like pretty muchthe same literally Facts, Except
for we don't have LA.
It's the same thing.
But yeah, I used to live inTucson years ago and I always
(36:40):
said I was going to always moveback to Arizona because my
oldest kids were here.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
And I asked her what's one place you would want
to live that you'd never want tomove from?
Because you look at Washingtonlike we look at iowa, like it's
not for me, I don't want to bethere.
Yeah, um, so she said arizonaand I said let's go visit.
What do you?
Speaker 4 (37:00):
know that was because , remember, we moved to iowa
yeah no, I was tired of moving.
No, I'm trying to say the storywe moved to iowa, remember from
washington, tried that out,we're there for six months.
That was a no for us.
We even moved to where we were.
We moved to Iowa, remember fromWashington, tried that out,
we're there for six months.
That was a no for us.
We even moved to where we weregoing to move to Des Moines.
We were in Cedar Rapids.
We said, okay, where else couldwe live?
(37:21):
You asked me that would makeyou happy than to be here or
back home, and I said Arizona.
That's where my kids are.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Well, where else were y'all thinking that's it.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Just moving back to Washington.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
No, we did move back to Washington.
This is when we moved back toWashington.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Okay, so, yeah, what about you, erica?
Where did you see yourselfgrowing up?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Arizona, arizona.
Well, yes, arizona because ofthe kids.
But I always wanted to live inCalifornia.
I've always been likeCalifornia is where I want to
live because of the palm trees,the vibe, everything.
And then now I hear Californiais not at all what it used to be
.
Now it's like you're better offbeing in Northern California
(38:03):
than Southern California, likeeven LA.
It's not what it used to be atall.
I whack so many people that havemoved from LA and basically
it's like people are shooting updrugs on the street.
There's feces on the street,it's just, it's not good it is
not what they show.
It's not what it yeah that wasthe only reason why I ever
wanted to move there.
I wanted to live in la I sawmyself as a la girl.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
That's crazy I never wanted to.
I never saw myself outside ofiowa because we never like when
I was a kid.
We never saw myself outside ofIowa because we never like when
I was a kid, we never sawnothing outside of Iowa unless
you were watching TV, yeah, fair.
So I never seen myself outsideof Iowa and we didn't really
travel as a kid.
We didn't go nowhere.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, the first time I got onan airplane we went to Hungary,
(38:47):
we went to Europe and that'swhere we lived and that was it
Okay.
My whole time as a kid I waslike I want to be a dad, I want
to be married, I want to have agood household, this, that and
the other, but I didn't knowwhere, so I didn't know.
I was going to be in Arizona.
You know what I mean.
I didn't know I was ever goingto move out of Iowa, I think you
thought you would be havestayed in Washington, but I do
(39:09):
think that leaving Iowa waswhat's best for me.
I feel like you can only do somuch in Iowa.
But it was also a I don't wantto move somewhere where I don't
know anyone, because then it'slike I don't want to move to a
bad neighborhood.
I don't want to be caught upwith the wrong people.
So I was always afraid ofmoving out of Iowa.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, so you've seen yourself in Iowa the whole time.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, because all our family was there.
Yeah, I didn't know nobody inTennessee.
We had family in Tennessee.
I didn't know any of them.
And then my brother was theonly person I knew that lived
outside of Iowa.
So I went to visit him.
I was never thinking, oh, I'mgoing to move here one day.
I was just like, let me govisit him and see how he doing
out there, just to go visit.
I was never like, oh, one dayI'm going to move over here with
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my brother.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Is it like Iowa out there?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's different, it's getting worse though.
It's different.
I don't think it's like Iowa.
I think there's a lot ofHispanics out there.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And one thing I learned about Washington was
like ownership, becauseHispanics believe in ownership.
You learn from other culturesbut they're very, very family
oriented, which I feel like Inour, in our family.
We're family oriented to anextent.
You know what I mean.
They're family oriented towhere it's like you grow up as
an adult, you stay in thehousehold but you take this one
bill.
Yeah, mom got one bill, dad gotone bill, brother got one bill,
uncle got one bill and theyjust they look out for one
(40:37):
another like that.
But there's also no like.
I feel like with blackhouseholds we have a lot more
issues.
We have a lot more things thatwe worry about and we don't
always think about each other,but there are also and we don't
always think about each other,but there's also like we just
lost the family aspect.
We don't have men in householdsanymore.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, so that's the biggestdifference that I learned out
(40:59):
there in Washington yeah, andthe Latino family.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
I learned how to cut hair.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I learned all that, yeah.
So it was cool, but it wasdifferent.
Where did you see yourself?
Speaker 3 (41:11):
You know, kind of like what you said in Iowa I
didn't know nothing outside ofIowa except for watching TV.
So one day I had seen, I wasthinking about like where I want
to move, because I know.
I ain't want to stay in Iowaand so I had seen.
I was like watching a wholebunch of movies I seen Friday.
You know it's good Like showinghow the West Coast looks and
(41:34):
stuff.
Yes, and I'm like, yeah, yeah,that's nice.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I know that's nice.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
The palm trees and stuff, and then I don't know
what movie it was, but it's kindof like all American you know
and the street they live on.
It's like the palm trees goingall the way down the street.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Yeah, that's what you see when you're driving on the
10.
It looks so nice.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
And then you remember the post you had shared on
Instagram with the old school LAmusic.
And then it's like blue skies,like just straight sun and blue
skies, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
All that.
Yeah, I feel like it makes youhappy, yeah that's what you say.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
You said it makes you want to make money palm trees,
yeah, that's what well alsobecause, like we've said before,
even out here, it's like it isa lot like california in the
sense where, because you have somany californians living here,
yeah that it's even more so likethat, where people here like,
even now, me being a waxer, ohmy god, people have like money
(42:36):
because they just they believein having businesses.
They believe in like doingsomething.
You got to do something,whether you are your
entrepreneur, you went to school, whatever it is, but I feel
like that's what drives you towant more, because you see,
people around you that arealways trying to.
They're always motivated anddoing more.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
You know but see for I, for us in iowa, it was more
of a.
It's almost like you're in abox and you're always looking
out watching tv was us lookingout?
Because we had commercials ofrestaurants we didn't even have
yeah you know what I mean.
We had golden corral commercials, we had all these different
commercials.
We never had any of it.
So it's like, oh, that's what'sgoing on in the world, that's
(43:17):
cool, but that don't happen hereand we'll probably never be
able to go there.
You know what I mean.
So now it's like we didn't seeno successful black people in
our neighborhoods.
We didn't see successful peopleat all for real.
Real.
They look like us.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
You always talk about the cars.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
We never seen nothing .
Speaker 4 (43:34):
You always say that people just have old cars.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Oh yeah, absolutely, or the houses are all not the
houses are all older here, it'smore modern.
Like we never seen stuff likethis in person.
We seen it on TV, even backhome.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Like back home we don't see the cars that we see,
like the McLarens and Maseratisand all of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, we've been behind them.
You've not seen a McLaren outhere.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Yeah, they come from Scottsdale.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
No, I got a client.
Yeah, you'll see them.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
There's the Alfa Romeros, the Maseratis, the
McLarens, the Lamborghinis, thePorsche, even just a a lot of
Mercedes, bmws, like that's allyou see driving around.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Those are like normal cars out here though yeah, but
also you see brand new carsgetting drove off the lot right.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
We don't see that at all.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
It's always hey, who got a $1500 car for sale?
And it's like we ain't reallygot money like that in Iowa.
It's not money like that inIowa, and there are places like
that in Iowa.
It's not money like that inIowa.
There are places like that.
You know what?
I'm saying Smaller cities wedon't have access to a lot of
these things.
You can drive down the highwayand you can go to an Ashton
Martin dealership.
It's just access that you haveout here.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
It's access yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
But everyone has something going on a side,
hustle whatever to where theyare here getting to it.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
I feel like there's a lot of opportunity to be
successful.
That's why I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Facts, facts.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So, yeah, that's about it for this episode.
Okay.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
All right.
Yeah, but anyways, yes, happy.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Father's.
Day to you what time is?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
it, don't worry about it, sweetheart.
About time we finna grill.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I'm finna grill.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I have to help you.
I'm finna grill.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
I can't cook.
That's crazy.
Anyways like subscribe.
If you on Apple Music, you knowwhat I'm saying.
Subscribe or, however they doit, follow us Spotify as well,
all that, but yeah, we'll be allour social medias.
Follow guys youtube yo boy man,he got his youtube channel, he
do vlogs y-o-b-o-a-n-n-y tellhim to start vlogging what he
(45:45):
doing in school so we can see ifthey let me, if they allow me,
they better.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Cause this ain't high school Facts.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Alright, we'll catch y'all.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
In the next one, peace.
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