May 17, 2025 • 60 mins
After a brief hiatus, the Outer Belt podcast crew reunites with their trademark humor and industry insights. Beginning with helium-fueled antics and catching up on recent travels, the hosts dive into the significant changes reshaping the trucking landscape in 2024.
Jerry shares his fascinating two-week grand jury duty experience, offering a rare glimpse into the justice system from a trucker's perspective – including mandatory jail visits and tasting prison food. Meanwhile, Patrick and Eric recount their enlightening trip to the FedEx Fleet Summit in Memphis, where they discovered game-changing developments for owner-operators and fleet managers. The biggest news? FedEx Custom Critical has been absorbed into FedEx Freight, while FedEx Freight and FedEx Express are becoming separate publicly traded companies – yet both retaining the iconic FedEx brand.
For drivers facing the persistent challenge of finding safe parking in major metropolitan areas, there's welcome relief: FedEx Freight facilities nationwide will soon open their gates to FedEx Custom Critical contractors. This revolutionary change allows for parking during mechanical issues, wait times, home time, or even while drivers take cruises – a significant quality-of-life improvement that signals FedEx's renewed focus on driver support and company culture.
The conversation then shifts to the controversial topic of English proficiency requirements for commercial drivers. What began as an Arkansas state law has now expanded through a presidential executive order, reinstating provisions that place drivers out of service if they cannot communicate in English. The hosts thoughtfully examine both safety concerns and potential discriminatory implications as this development gains momentum across states.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
She's like I've been with him for two weeks.
How long have y'all beentogether?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
A week and some days.
Okay, it was a week on Saturday, wasn't it?
Just a few days.
He's got her voice.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well, you aren't normal now.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
On micro high pitch Wicked.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Wig.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh, are you on the same one?
I'm doing two, you too.
I'll get you, my friend, andyou're gonna die too.
Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
All right, guys, get it together.
Let's get serious, you ready.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We've already wasted a precious moment.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Okay, huzzah, hey everybody, welcome to the Outer
Belt.
My name is Patrick, I'm Chili.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm Buttermilk, I'm Eric, I'm Zucchini, I'm Eric,
I'm zucchini.
Bread and cherry Cherry.
Oh y'all, it's been a whilesince we've all been together.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And you're in the animal zoo.
What is it called?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
The morning zoo.
The morning zoo, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We're having too much fun.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right, enough of that, shenanigans.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Thank goodness, that's over.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, you sure had to suck a lot of helium to make
that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I know.
Thankfully I've got moreoxygens now.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, that helium tank was expensive.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
It was expensive, it was worth it though it was so
worth it, I didn't hail to youso worth it, I didn't.
I didn't, no.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
How you doing, jerry Bear.
Good, how are you?
I'm doing all right.
Long time no see, just a littlebit.
We'll tell everybody real quickIf you've noticed we.
So we're going to keep thatgoing a little bit longer.
But, Jerry Bear, it's prettymuch all your fault, Is it that
was my understanding.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
That was my understanding.
I think we all voted and agreedit was Jerry's fault.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
We did, we voted.
I think.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
I voted for like two episodes a week and they just
decided to go every other week,so y'all blame them.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Really, I thought you said two episodes a month.
No, really, I thought you saidtwo episodes a month.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's what I voted for.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I don't remember the voters' ballot he said bi-weekly
, I thought he meant every otherweek, not twice a week.
That's what I thought he meanttoo.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I was uninvited to the meeting.
I am so confused.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Well, patrick, and.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I voted yes.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Without none of us.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Without none of you.
So that's with all of you.
So that's with all of you.
Jerry made the suggestion, butwe all didn't get to vote Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But well, really, you know, what determines the
frequency is, of course, thesponsors and, of course, today
we are proudly supported byJerry OTR Services.
That's right, what?
Yeah, okay, moving right along.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So doesn't matter, they're our sponsor.
Otr sponsors what OTR?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
sponsors.
Otr sponsors are service of theday.
Yes, oh my goodness.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
What service do?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
they provide.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Carb testing in the Columbus Ohio area.
Really, what is carb?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
testing Is that, where they like, check the food
and they see how manycarbohydrates are in it, I wish.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And how many Do they plug us in?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
They're like Patrick, you are 92% carbohydrates.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's like plug you in Okay pass gas.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
We'll find out if you're good to go.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's a snap test.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Different kind of emissions that's a snap test.
Different kind of emissionsthat's a snap test.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You've been sitting too long.
We need you to get up fivetimes Exactly.
Five times.
That's good.
So what is a CARP test?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
If you plan on doing any type of freight into the
state of California.
It is their new emissionsregulations, so it is a test
that is currently required twicea year, annually, every six
months.
Your due date is based off ofyour VIN number if your truck is
registered outside of the stateof California.
And yeah, it's an emissionstest.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And so with that emissions test, the proper name
of it is what?
Hdmi or something.
No, that's a cable.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
No, it's something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
HD Harley Davidson no New and but if you go to HD
OTR-servicescom, that'sOTR-servicescom.
They've got all the informationthere, a little fact sheet.
It will tell you what to dobefore you come in right.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Yes, just go in there .
The most important thing isjust not having any lights on on
your dash and you can go online, schedule, book your
appointment, pay and one of ourtechs will be out to see you.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And they've got a great group of techs.
They're super nice, superfriendly.
They'll come out, they'll pluginto the truck and do your right
.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Heads up.
Do you need to have your enginerunning ahead of time, or does
it need to be cold?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Either Okay, either is fine.
But you cannot under anycircumstance have a check engine
light or a mill light.
Which the mill light?
Is that amber.
It looks like a check enginelight but it doesn't say check
on it.
None of those lights.
If you have those lights on, goahead and dealership up.
First, get that cleared out, dofive, turn your truck on, get
(05:30):
it hot, cool it down five timesit's called a warm-up cycle and
then you'll be good to go.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
And that does have to be warmed up and then cooled
completely down.
And if you have an APU that istied into the engine, don't be
running that because it'll keepthe engine hot.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Absolutely Let that baby get cold, which is a
challenge.
Well, hold on.
First I'll say thank you, otrServices.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Thanks, OTR Services.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
For sponsoring the channel.
I appreciate that royalty checkevery now and then.
I think I got like 12 cents onthe last one.
Yeah, I have to split that withyou all at some point.
So, speaking of the weatherbeing harder to let your engine
cool down, how about thatweather Today?
It's gotten toasty.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh yeah, overall, yeah, but it's not here to stay.
I think we're going to get somespring weather.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Yeah, it's going to go back down into like the upper
60s 70s Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'll take it Right.
Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Oh my goodness, it's only going to be in the 60s,
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'm just saying it did peak, it peaked, it got
really hot.
Yeah, hot 80s, that's hot, itis.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well, let me ask you a question, With it getting all
the way down to the 60 thermalsinsulated socks, insulated
weatherproof boots, base layershirt, regular shirt, light
sweater, parka, raincoat, beanie, insulated gloves to work at 60
(07:03):
?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
At 60, I still am yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Around here people are jogging up and down the
street, like in Speedos.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
It helps with the weight loss.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I sweat it all out, but the bottled water budget
goes up considerably.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
I want to say that last Thursday was the first
shorts day of the year, that'sexciting.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, it's very exciting.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
I was excited to be in my shorts on Thursday, cool.
So I'm going to go ahead andcontinue to work on my spring
tan Nice With my shorts.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Nice, yeah, they call that a mechanics tan.
Right, they do.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, I think it was in the kitchen making coffee or
lunch.
You don't want to mess with thewhite balance, and he kind of
hops out of the bedroom and he'slike ta-da, and I'm like what
ta-da he's like look.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Oh, he's sporting the shorts.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
No you weren't.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You were sporting the shorts.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know, it's the thing that's like.
I love the warm weather.
I'm very grateful for it.
Last night we actually had achance most of us to hang out
and smoke a cigar and just chillout and decompress.
There's been a lot of crazyschedule stuff been happening
lately.
We'll talk about that shortly.
But just being out there inshorts, sun going down, it was
(08:25):
so nice and so comfortable and Imiss that so bad.
We've hung out outside but it'sbeen bundled up with the parkas
and the propane heaters allaround us.
It's about a six-foot section.
We have eight propane heaters.
I believe we're putting out340,000.
Btus of heat to keep us warmand you just pray.
(08:45):
There's no wind because it justwipes it all away.
But it was very nice.
But my only concern, complaint,negative thought about this
weather is we are very much inthat you wake up and it's 40
degrees.
Right Middle of the day it's 79.
And then it goes back down to40 degrees again that night.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It is doing the dippy-do.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It is hard to plan your entire daily wardrobe.
You really got to layer up.
You do so.
You can de-layer.
You shed some layers as the daygoes, yep, and then re-layer
later, but that's better thanthe dead of winter when it's
just.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No layers.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, all layers, all layers and then, come off and
they never come off and you staycold.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Why was it put to a vote to go biweekly?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh, the crazy schedule, oh, schedule.
Oh, I'm not going to say who,oh, but Jerry took two weeks off
in the most Like in life.
You have three reasons to notgo to work.
Right, right, sick.
Option number one is sick.
(09:53):
Can't go to work if you're sick, we all kind of recognize it.
We may not like it, but we allrecognize it.
Number two dead.
Oh, should you accidentally dieat night?
They don't, unless you work ata restaurant, because they will
ask you, they will drag your assin there what's?
it called Drag your ass in there, or a family show.
(10:13):
What's it called?
Not Bernie Sanders?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Weekend at Bernie's they will.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Weekend at.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Bernie's you there.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Next jukebox and the only other thing that gets you
out of work, unquestionably, isJury duty, jury duty and you got
the two-week lottery ticket,the golden ticket, to the
Franklin County Willy Wonka.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
I'm telling you you don't know how bad Dawn wanted
that.
I'm telling you For days, everymorning, that's all I heard is
oh, I wish I could go.
Oh, I wish I could go.
Can I take your place?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Don's calling like it's a restaurant.
I'd like to take Jerry's shift.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Can we just?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
What I thought was great was at the end of the two
weeks.
You sent us the letter, theofficial, and it's like do.
What I thought was great was atthe end of the two weeks you
sent us the letter, the officialand it's like do you think we
thought you were lying?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
I'm pretty sure it would have come out.
I didn't even know they weregoing to give that official
letter.
Oh really, yeah, showing thatyou were there for these many
days and everything.
So whenever I got that, withall their signatures and
everything, I'm like okay, I'msending this to Hafeu.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I have one of those letters too.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I just haven't pulled it out yet.
I'm waiting for the right twoweeks you got to get Jerry's and
get it photoshopped.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, you can send it down to Fiverr or wherever that
company is I?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
just had one made.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I know a guy.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Whose signatures do you have on it?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Don't worry, about it , don't worry about it, don't
worry about it.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It doesn't matter, none of us are.
Are we comparing?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Are we going to the Secretary?
Speaker 5 (11:49):
of State website.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah don't worry about it.
Have you done jury duty before?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Never in my life.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And so this was an experience, though for you it
was I mean, without getting intodetails- yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
It was so in the state grand jury it wasn't just
a regular.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh, so you were the better jury.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Well, I wouldn't say better, but it was grand jury
and my letter says great juryOkay.
So before you can be chargedwith a federal crime in the
state of Ohio, it has to gobefore a grand jury and you're
basically just deciding ifthere's enough evidence to bring
charges.
You're not deciding guilt oranything like that.
(12:25):
So it was very interesting.
I learned a lot about the law,about the state law in Ohio.
Many, many—Ohio y'all love yourguns.
I'm telling you that seemed tobe three-fourths of the cases,
Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Guns.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
that seemed to be three-fourths of the cases, wow
Guns.
It was either something at homewith a gun or getting pulled
over, and they call it adisability.
You're either drunk and adisability, so your disability
is you're impaired.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Okay, yeah.
So you had a gun and you weredrunk, or you had a gun and you
were high, or pot or whateverthe case may be, sure, so a lot
of that stuff, but there was afew of the more serious things
like murder and stuff like that.
And then there was one that wasextremely out in left field
that caught me off guard, butoverall it was great.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Jimmy, did you make any friends?
I mean, I don't know, are youmaking friends when you're on a
jury?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Are you allowed to see I was going to say are you
allowed to go into the?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
bathroom together, or the lunchroom together or the
hallway together, I mean are youFacebook buddies now?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I would think it's like AA, where they want you to
stay anonymous?
Is that the case?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
No, we were welcome to talk to everybody and all
that.
And the way they set it up isyou have nine jurors I was juror
number six and then you havefive alternates in case one of
the main jurors are out.
So we all sit there and listento, we have people with officers
and detectives and all thosecome in, they testify, they give
(14:02):
us all the facts of the caseand Objectives, and all those
come in, they testify, they giveus all the facts of the case
and then, if all the jurors arethere, the alternates step out
and the main jurors vote.
If one of the main jurors isout, then an alternate will step
in.
And yeah, you're welcome totalk to each other.
You're welcome.
Everything was pretty casual.
They just asked that you keepyour phones on vibrate.
(14:30):
If you had to step out to takea call, then you didn't vote on
that case or something like that.
Wow, wow.
That's way different thanregular jury duty.
Yeah, it was pretty relaxed andlaid back and it's because it
is a set two week time period.
Sure, you have to go the entiretwo weeks.
It's not just do a jury dutyuntil they come to a conclusion
and you go home.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
How many cases did you see roughly in the two weeks
?
Speaker 6 (14:44):
We did on average, I would say a busy day was upwards
of 50.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And on a light day.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
It was upwards of like 22, 25.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Wow, I've never been picked for jury duty Ever.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I got picked.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Oh wait, I have.
But I had to say no thank youbecause I was a truck driver at
the time.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Did you really.
Was it thank you, though, orwas it just?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
No, they said the next time.
Well, I said I couldn't do itbecause I was on the road.
I mean, I gave my reason andthey said, OK, you get a
one-time pass, but then you haveto do it.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Then I think by then we had switched our licenses
from oregon to elsewhere, sojokes on them.
You left the state, right, yeah, so when that's her, that's her
new thing every time she getscalled for jury duty she just
leaves the state.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
When I went for the selection, uh, you go in on.
I went back in january and, uh,so they literally had hundreds
of people in this hugeauditorium and they tell you, if
you have a job where yourincome depends on it and you
cannot get off, you know, Iguess if you're a commission
base or something like that, youhad a chance to get out of it.
(15:55):
You had to present yourreasoning as to why you couldn't
do it and then they made thedetermination if you could get
out or not.
Nice.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And you were like no, I got plenty of time.
No, I actually did go up there.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
You only for two months.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
I did go up there and try to get out of it.
But the first thing they askedme was does your job depend on
it?
And I was like, eh, and I waslike, well, I kind of have to be
there.
It's a small company and shegoes are you salary?
And?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I no.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
I'm like okay, so that's exactly what she said to
me.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, my jury duty.
I got a call twice and bothI've been called three times.
First time I got out of it Iwas in college, so they pretty
much just immediately if you'regoing to be in college, we don't
even want you.
So I got out that way.
Second time they said we'll letyou get out of it for 30 days.
Louisiana is very strict and onday 31 you will be in this
(16:50):
courtroom.
And so I was like, well, ifthat's the case, I'm just gonna
go like this is stupid, right,right, um.
So I went and I was in and outon day two.
They let me out halfway through, never saw anything more.
That was at the old library,which if you're from Baton Rouge
, louisiana, you know the oldlibrary.
(17:10):
If you're not, imagine an oldlibrary.
It's been torn to the groundnow so it's not there anymore.
I can't show you.
It was so boring.
It was so boring I hated it.
The third time I got called forjury duty back in Louisiana,
but this time it was thecourthouse, because the old
library had been torn down andso we were in the brand new
(17:33):
courthouse and the brand newcourthouse had this huge
auditorium and we all hung outin there, they catered food for
us, they showed movies while wewere waiting, and I only did
that for one day and they cut meloose and I was like that's not
bad, it's definitely gotten alot better wow but um, I haven't
done anything here in ohio yet.
(17:53):
I you know as soon as I say thatit's going to show up in the
mail.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
But we did get to do something that not everybody
gets to do, and that is once aquarter.
In the state of ohio, the grandjury has to go to the old jail
and the new jail that they built, which opened up within the
last two years, and we actuallyhad to tour the entire jail,
look at the facilities and wehad to actually write up a whole
(18:19):
report on it, on what wethought about it, the food, how
the inmates are treated, wow.
The conditions, everything onboth.
Did you just look at the food?
How the inmates are treated?
The conditions everything onboth.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Did you just look at the food, or did y'all actually
eat there?
We?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
had to eat the food.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
At the jail.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
It was not good.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So it wasn't like all the prisoners or the jailers
Incarcerated.
It's not like all theincarcerated were like we can't
wait for grand jury day, becausethat's when the good food comes
All of a sudden it's like, ooh,what is that?
Fresh collard greens.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And what is that?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Little red beans and rye.
Look at me.
I'm going South Louisiana allof a sudden.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
What was?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
that Chicken fried steak with gravy on top oh,
they're eating great in here.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
The old jail was tacos and when I got my plate we
had to walk down a little shorthallway and back into this room
where we ate.
By the time I got my plate andgot back in the room and sat
down, the shell was so soggyfrom the grease from the
hamburger.
I had that much grease and, forthose who can't see, two inches
(19:18):
of grease in the bottom of myplate and it was literally slop,
wow.
And then the new jail.
I got up there there and theyhad this stuff that was supposed
to be Salisbury steak, but itwas green.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
That didn't look that gravy to me Well, so I didn't
have that.
I passed right over that andhad a hot dog, and even that was
questionable.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And how did your reporting go?
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Pretty much everybody said the same thing the food.
But you know me and one otherperson was like you know, you
really can't complain Like it'snot a Michelin restaurant, it's
jail.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You're you know they get three squares a day.
It doesn't mean they have to begood.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I think you're.
I think at that point you'rearguing the humanity of it,
right.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Is it Because?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I think back to these privatized jails back in the
day.
It's illegal now in most states, but not too long ago they were
serving these square bars,blocks of oh, like a protein
block kind of thing Like aprotein block thing.
It had vegetables and proteinand, like everything that you
(20:25):
needed to sustain life was inthere it was literally the three
squares Heather just mentioned.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
A square for the morning square yeah it was
disgusting and that was the onlything you ate, and so they
pretty much have said that wasinhumane.
And I don't think anyone doesit it, or at least most places
don't sure.
So I think that's what they'retrying to prevent but I do.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I want to mention, though, the new jail was
absolutely amazing.
The facilities are top-notchlike.
I have never experiencedanything like that in my life
from.
They actually do all thebookings in the new jail now,
and so we got to see everythingfrom them coming in on the bus
to pat downs to booking thewhole nine yards um the
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facilities.
They had one room where thosewho are striving to do better
and rehabilitate themselves andstuff like that they actually
like wake up at eight o'clock inthe morning and they go through
classes.
It's like a wide, open communityarea.
They're locked down at nightwhenever they're asleep, but
other than that they open thejail up and everybody gets to
walk around and do what theywant and and stuff, and they
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have a TV in there, but the TVdoesn't come on in that
particular room until like two,30 or three o'clock in the
afternoon, because in themornings they're all like these
classes and trying to betterthemselves and stuff like that.
One gentleman that we actuallytalked to, who he's been in
there for just almost threeyears, he's actually getting
ready to get out within the nexteight months, I believe, and
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he's been offered a job.
So it's pretty cool ofeverything that they're doing.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Good, so were these jails or prisons?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
This is a jail, but everybody that is in there is
top offenders, the ones thatwe've seen.
So we're dealing with everybody, from your rapists to murderers
, to it's all felony crimes.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So he started the trend for Time Off.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yes, yes, well, no, I guess not really, because we
did the Mid-American Truck Show.
It was before that, but thatwas a quick thing and we still
recorded the main show duringthat time.
But he did his two weeks offand then Eric and I had to go,
(22:37):
didn't have to go, we got to goto, I almost said, new Orleans
to go to.
Memphis, Tennessee, to do aFedEx fleet summit.
So FedEx Custom Critical willtry to bring the fleet together,
the owners, so eitherowner-operators or fleet owners
and do a summit to talk aboutwhat's happening with the
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company.
You get a State of the Unionaddress, basically for the
company.
You get a here's what we'regrowing, here's the kind of
trucks we need for the future.
So kind of like it's their wayof saying here's where our
business is going, so that youcan then plan your business to
help us with that or not, yourchoice.
You know they don't force youto do anything but right kind of
here's the direction we'regoing.
(23:21):
So you know, kind of like, maybedon't buy cargo vans because
we're not really going thatdirection, that's that sort of
thing, and that's not somethingthey said, that's just an
example, sure.
And so we brought Kelly andJimmy so, if you know, they've
been on the podcast before, butJimmy runs our maintenance
department and Kelly is ourFedEx fleet coordinator within
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our fleet so they came out thereand we spent three days sitting
at FedEx Freight's worldheadquarters in.
Memphis, which is literally on agolf course.
That's not figuratively on thegolf course, it's literally on a
golf course.
That's not figuratively on thegolf course, it's literally on
the golf course.
We were sitting in theconference room.
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It's nice.
They built it in 2019, notrealizing they weren't going to
be able to use it for threeyears.
Wow.
So they built it in 2019, andeverything in there is pristine
and brand new.
And you turn around from theconference room and behind you
is just like an Arnold Palmergrade golf course.
Wow.
I can't remember the name ofthe golf course, but Jimmy, who
(24:28):
does a lot more golfing than Ido, he does know it.
He's like oh my gosh, there's abig tournament here every year.
I've seen this on TV a thousandtimes.
I never realized that was.
Oh, is that the one Kelly?
Speaker 5 (24:37):
mentioned on the on the conference call TPC.
Yes, that's it.
Tpc stands for the players clubchampionship or players club,
but their TPC courses are.
Are the crazy high end courses,oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
He was shocked.
He was absolutely like floor.
That it's like like, and what'sreally cool is like FedEx the
freight world headquarters onone side of the golf course and
the other side is FedEx ExpressWorld headquarters.
So you do see, like they're onit's basically FedEx's golf
course is what I'm saying, andit's beautiful and it was, but
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it was a really good time over.
There Got a lot of insight.
So there's been a lot of changes.
It's very public so I'm notbreaking any news here, but
FedEx Custom Critical has beenabsorbed into FedEx Freight.
So we still operate as FedExCustom Critical, but the money
flows, if you would, from FedExCustom Critical's bank account
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into FedEx Freight's bankaccount, whereas before we used
to go into FedEx Express's bankaccount.
Not only are we a part of FedExFreight, but FedEx Freight and
FedEx Express are actuallyseparating.
They are becoming two separatepublicly traded companies.
So there's a lot going onbehind the scenes and they kind
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of talk to us about what doesthat mean for the future and how
does that help us with ourbusiness and all this stuff.
The real bottom line gist of itis it's great FedEx Ground,
fedex Express are stayingtogether.
If you've watched any newslately, you've seen that FedEx
has been on the struggle busfinancially with the FedEx
Ground and the FedEx Expressoperation.
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They've been selling airplanes.
They got rid of their US PostalService contracts.
They could stop flying duringthe day.
They've done a lot to reducetheir expenses and try to get
their company under control isthe wrong word, but more
efficient.
Fedex Freight, on the otherhand, is I'm not going to say
(26:36):
printing cash, because thatwould be the wrong way to put it
they're doing quite well.
Custom Critical is the otherbranch that we have always made
money.
It always makes money for FedEx.
It's a great brand.
They love owning CustomCritical.
So they kind of put the twohigh-earning companies together
(26:57):
and that's why they're spittingus off.
So they did disclose we aregoing to keep the FedEx branding
.
So there will be two FedExesFedEx Express, fedex Freight.
But they are going to be bothbranded FedEx, even though they
will no longer be the samecompany.
And you see this like it's notcrazy uncommon GE.
(27:18):
There's like five different GEcompanies.
They used to all be related butthey're not anymore.
So, like GE Healthcare is notrelated to the GE that makes
airplane engines.
Rolls-royce Cars is not relatedto the Rolls-Royce that makes
jet airplane engines.
Westinghouse which we allprobably have a Westinghouse
microwave or TV or refrigeratorat some point in our life has
(27:41):
nothing to do with theWestinghouse that builds nuclear
reactors, like they all kind of.
At some point a lot of thesereally massive companies do
break apart and so that's that'swhat's happening.
So they really kind of laiddown here's what's happening,
here's some new lines ofbusiness that we're going into
and stuff.
(28:04):
There was some stuff that wasdisclosed that we are not
allowed to talk about.
Um.
So you know, publicly tradedcompanies do have rules about
what can be shared publicly,what can't be shared publicly.
So there was certainly somestuff that was talked about
internally that we are notallowed to disclose.
Um, not insider trading stuff,nothing like that.
That's all pretty well public.
But just like new places wherethey're going to go after
freight that they haven't beengoing after, that they don't
(28:26):
want the world knowing untilthey start doing it, but they
need trucks to accomplish thatmission.
So it's important that we knowA lot of excitement happening.
I think that's the biggesttakeaway I got.
Eric, would you say the samething?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Basically a new relation between freight and
custom critical.
Are they going to work togethermore than they have in the past
?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Oh yeah, and just like when I look at so, in the
room there was the fleet owners,owner operators, there's also
these FedEx freight employeesand there's these FedEx custom
critical employees.
And obviously we know thecustom critical employees
because we've known them foryears.
We've had 14 years or whateverwith.
FedEx, so we know them quitewell and seeing their genuine
(29:12):
excitement about what'shappening and where the company
is going is just awesome.
We have not seen anything likethat since 2019, 2018.
Maybe, Eric, would you saywhere those employees are
genuinely excited about thethings that are coming up.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Yeah, Wow, that's a long time.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, it is I mean, don't get me wrong In the past
six, seven years, FedEx has.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
That's basically when we were starting.
No, because we got started in2012,.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
So that was probably five years in.
Okay, so over the last five orsix years we've clearly made
really good money with FedExCustomer Critical.
They're not like just becausethe people are excited doesn't
mean they've been a bad companyor whatever.
But there definitely has been alack of excitement about future
activities, future growth plansand all that stuff, and right
(30:03):
now it's like everyone's justlike this is finally going in a
direction we like to see itgoing.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Even our contractors are going to be happy with
what's going on.
Yeah, and they're in.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Some of the development, some of the big
projects.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It's always exciting when you see a big company put
millions of dollars ininfrastructure in so yeah, maybe
electronic scan in a barcodeand quit writing out BOLs One
day maybe.
There were products presentedto us so I can't say what all
they're there for, but some ofthat stuff's going to be rolling
(30:38):
out real soon.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yep, I am excited.
One thing that's reallyexciting that FedEx is doing
that.
Fedex Freight is doing that I'mreally excited about.
That's a lot of excitement.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
We can tell you're excited.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
It's passionate to us because we obviously have
talked about it many times onthis show is parking as y'all,
we operate the lack of parking.
We operate in a lot of majorlyhuge big cities that don't have
very good parking situations.
Fedex Freight is now openingtheir doors, literally, and
their gates, to FedEx customcritical drivers to be able to
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park in FedEx Freight facilities.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Absolutely so if you are headed to Chicago, where we
all know Chicago has a horribleparking situation.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Or Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Or Los Angeles is another good one, or New York
City, san Francisco, sanFrancisco.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
We'll spread along out.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
There's.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Oregon, Seattle, there's Portland.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Omaha.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Nebraska, omaha, nebraska, omaha, nebraska.
No, they got the casinos.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You got Not Dallas, not Dallas.
Did we already say Atlanta?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You did start with Atlanta, dallas is a good one,
because Dallas has an abundanceof parking down south, but you
might also get shot.
Atlanta is the same way.
Atlanta doesn't have much verygood parking.
Memphis is maybe, I don't know.
West Memphis has plenty ofparking, though.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yes, but do you want to use it?
They know that is a dangerousside.
Is it West Memphis?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
yeah, oh, I thought that was better than the doesn't
matter so.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
At any rate, they're opening their gates.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
They're opening their gates.
So if you're a FedEx customcritical contractor, right now
today you can call in and thereare a large number of FedEx
Freight facilities that you haveaccess to.
They implemented that a monthor two ago.
That's awesome, but it's notall of them, but it's a lot and
coming up really soon it will beopening to every FedEx Freight
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facility.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So that's huge.
That's very exciting becausethere's FedEx Freight in every
city and, like Los Angeles,there's like eight FedEx Freight
places.
Yeah, it's a big city.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
So is it just intended for parking and you
leave or you park and you canstay on site?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
They are allowing multiple things for you to park
at.
If you have a mechanicalfailure and you just need a
place to go so they can get atruck to come in, like a service
truck to come work on yourtruck or whatever, they're
allowing you to park there whileyou bring a service truck in,
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they're allowing you to.
You got too much time on theload and you just need a place
to park.
Angeles, where when you go forhome time you have a hard time
parking because there's not good, safe parking.
They're allowing them to parktheir vehicles there for
extended periods for home time.
So, they're really, reallyrolling out the red carpet.
(33:34):
What I think is really coolabout it, too, is we have a lot
of teams like to cruise, and soI know that's a common thing.
Get a load down to Florida andthen leave your truck at a truck
stop and hope for the best asyou go on a cruise.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Well, now it doesn't get towed.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yep, and now you can.
Just if you're a FedEx, you canleave your truck at a FedEx
freight facility.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
While you go on your cruise and come back and know
it's there.
So some very cool stuff that'shappening and I think they're
working on they don't have ityet, but they're working on
getting everybody full bathroom,lounge or driver's lounge areas
at the FedEx Freight facilitiesas well.
So when you go in there andyou're like down for a little
(34:17):
bit, you have access to amicrowave or a lounge if you
want to sit instead of justbeing inside the truck, if
you're down for a weekend orsomething like that and a
bathroom.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And a bathroom.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
They don't have that yet, but they're working on it.
So yeah, the bathroom thinggets a little.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Can be a little tricky.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
A little tricky.
It's some really cool stuff.
I'm very excited to see thesechanges and you know, that kind
of thing doesn't make fedex anymore money, it's just a hundred
percent to improve the qualityof life of the driver.
So that's the kind of thingthat's like.
That's cool.
That's exciting that they areactually focusing on the, the
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driver's experience.
They, they really, really drovehome.
It was the very first thingthey talked about which, which
was their culture.
And I remember seeing thatthinking like, okay, well, all
these meetings are about yourculture, right.
And then, as you go throughoutthe meetings, we realized, oh,
they're serious.
Like they are, we will fire youserious about getting their
(35:15):
culture into a very supportivecommunity.
So I'm excited to see thatBecause I think you know, jerry,
you've been around a long time,many, many, many years Like
whew a long time Back in 2002.
Yeah, like you remember, you'repaper log old, so you remember
(35:39):
the culture at FedEx used to bevery business but also driver.
We're all in this together,kind of focus, right.
Yes, and I know because you gotoff the road only a couple
years ago.
You saw that kind of fall apartover the last few years, right.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
So it really kind of that culture aspect.
Not the company didn't fallapart because they're still
again great money-making trucks,they're just the culture kind
of like it disappeared, it tooka backseat to the business.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
And it's great to see it like this new management get
in there and go.
No, no, no.
We're going to clean this upLike our culture matters.
We're going to clean this upLike our culture matters.
The purple promise is what Iwas brought to bring in, which
is what again?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You have to wear purple.
We promise to wear purple.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
You have to drink the Kool-Aid, I don't know.
Get a tattoo.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Like, what are we doing for purple?
I never did the tattoo thing.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I remember.
I can see it clear as day in mymind on the side of the wall if
custom critical, but I don'tknow it by heart.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
They'd like a slogan.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Or a motto, or whatever you call it.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
Motto.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
What's a motto?
What's a motto?
Nothing.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
What's a motto to you Hakuna Matata?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Oh my goodness, what a wonderful phrase.
The purple promise is to makeevery.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
FedEx experience outstanding.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Wow, just that easy, and they do mean that, in the
terms of driver to customer,from employee to office, worker
to driver, dispatch to driver,employee to employee, like that
is the like, everything has tobe outstanding, and so that used
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to be like a huge part of theculture.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
it was crazy just a couple weeks ago.
Um, don's niece she is, she'snot a ranger, but she is like
over a huge department in thewildlife forestry up in upper
michigan, in the upper peninsulaand uh, so she sends me and don
a message and she's like I'vegot something to ship.
(37:49):
Who can I call?
So we give her a call and askher a couple questions and
everything, and come to find outthey had this huge box that
needed to go out to WashingtonState where they were actually
going to be doing whatever theydo with it and then ship it back
and after filling her out and acouple questions, she actually
(38:11):
called FedEx and shipped it withFedEx.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Cool, that's pretty cool yeah, it's a great company.
Love working with, with themLike really do, and I've enjoyed
the partnership we've had overthe years.
It's nice to see excitementagain.
It's nice to see culture again,and part of that too has just
been COVID.
Covid kind of came in and madeeverybody work from home and it
(38:34):
was hard to keep a culture inthat kind of environment, but
it's just nice seeing all thatcome back together.
I think, of course, being inMemphis was kind of a neat
change.
Usually we used to do thesethings in Cleveland, ohio, akron
, ohio area and just getting achange of scenery, being in
Memphis and seeing like oh,here's the actual headquarters,
(38:54):
here's all these things, and Ireally like that.
They took us out to a baseballgame.
Memphis has the cutest littlebaseball park.
They took us out to a baseballgame.
Memphis has the cutest littlebaseball park.
They have the Redbirds there,which of course means they're
owned by the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
That makes sense.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Redbirds.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Cardinals, which I think is funny because
apparently Redbird is an insultto a Cardinals fan, but it's
their minor league baseball team, so I'm like interesting.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I mean you could kind of see that right.
You're playing like a Redbirdinstead of like a.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Cardinal yeah.
But, overall great experienceat FedEx as Fleet Intermediate.
We have one coming up withPanther in July, I want to say.
So you know, it's always fun togo and hang out with these
people and see kind of wheretheir minds are at and what they
project the business to be atand things like that, so you can
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kind of make plans.
And yeah, nice.
Now, melissa, what, you're notgetting off that easy.
What?
When Jerry left, you also left,and where did you go?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I went to Oregon.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
The trail.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Close, About 20 minutes from the trail.
Yes, I went to Southern Oregonand visit the younger son and
his family and the grandson theyoungest grandson and stayed
there a little over a week.
Bestie's there too, so stayedwith her and then when I left
(40:26):
there, I flew into Arkansaswhere my older son was with my
older two grandsons and stayedthere for a few days, and then
the older son and I made our wayhere to Columbus.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Y'all road tripped it .
Speaker 2 (40:38):
It was fun.
We stopped in Memphis.
He had never not Memphis.
Well, we did Memphis.
We had a wonderful suggestedbarbecue lunch in Memphis down
on Beale Street.
That was a lot of fun.
And then we did Nashville downon Broadway for Monday night and
then we made our way home.
Now we've been here.
(40:59):
So, yeah, april's been kind offull.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Kind of full.
It just kind of flew by, didn'tit?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Looking forward to a relaxing May.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I see why we've gone to every other week.
Everybody's been kind of Well,and then we're coming into
summer when vacations happen.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yes, yeah, it's been insane we do have to talk about.
Are we going to take a summerbreak like we normally do?
Are we going to try to?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Like a hiatus.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Yeah, are we going to try and get like 15 shows in
over the next few days.
We could, yeah, we could.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I say we do another one right after this.
Yeah, we should, you're right.
I think I have plans.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I definitely got the vote.
I got the ballot on that vote.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, Jerry and I have something we need to do.
They're going to go.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
We are getting up there in numbers.
I mean we're like at episode 28or something, since we started.
No, like this season.
Oh wow, just this season.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Wow, that's the most we've hit.
So far.
That's pretty consistent for us.
Wow, I'm shocked.
I'm shocked, it is Well, we doneed to talk about one thing,
which is the news, which is thenews that you've all been
sending me emails and textmessages.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Instagram messages.
Are they doing telegraph DMs onX?
Speaker 1 (42:12):
DMs on X.
Your blue sky is blowing up,isn't it?
Oh, the blue sky is blowing up,isn't it?
Oh, the blue sky is red.
It's insane.
And then it's all about thesenon-English speaking drivers
that we talked about not toolong ago.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Apparently it's been all over the news after we
covered it.
Just want to point that out,that we covered it first.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Oh, we covered it first.
Yes, live from the outer belt.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yes, we heard it here first you saw it here, first
the outer belt.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yes, we heard it here first but there's been like 17
different forms of upgrades, ofchanges, and laws are changing
and people are getting fired andsomeone said they were going to
make things great again and Ihave not caught up with the
latest little bit of news.
I've just seen what I've beengetting Again.
(42:58):
It's literally been a lot.
I've probably got 20 differentmessages and emails about this
one topic, so we need an update.
I think Think of anyone betterto talk about that subject than
my man, the one, the only ChileWhoop, whoop, whoop.
Check it out.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Whoop, whoop.
I am so unprepared for this.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
We're hyping you up, are you really?
Speaker 5 (43:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'm ready.
Okay, good, you had me scared.
You had me scared, I'm likethis frightened you.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
So a couple episodes ago we talked about the bill
that was introduced in Arkansas.
Yes, that would require acommercial vehicle driver to
have a domestically issued CDL.
Correct, and there are alsolanguage provisions to be able
to speak and read English.
(43:48):
Well, that bill was withdrawn.
Oh, and a new bill wasintroduced that took away the
domestic driver's licenseportion and only required
language proficiency forcommercial motor vehicle drivers
in the state of Arkansas.
If you're going to drive acommercial motor vehicle in
Arkansas, you had to beproficient in English.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
So kind of what we talked about with.
I don't know how they can dothis, because of the.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Mexico and the interstate commerce and all that
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
So they heard our podcast.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
They heard our podcast and they said he's got a
good argument.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Exactly.
Yeah, we do have a very largeArkansasian fan base.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I don't know if y'all know or not we actually do, we
do, we do.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
A little rock and all .
There's a huge group inBentonville.
I've heard.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, rock and all.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
There's a huge group in Bentonville, I've heard yeah,
huge, yep, huge, huge, yeah.
So that passed in Arkansas.
And then, just in the lastcouple of days, president Trump
signed an executive order thatrequires English proficiency in
speaking English, communicatingin English and being able to
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read English.
So a lot of folks are saying,well, that's in the handbook for
the longest time.
Well, the executive order thatPresident Trump signed the other
day actually requires a truckdriver to be able to speak
English or be placed out ofservice.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Oh so he gave it actionable penalty.
Yes, he did.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
Wow, which apparently was in the law before.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (45:25):
And in 2016, the policy change was made under the
Obama administration thatremoved the requirement to place
a driver out of service if theycouldn't speak or communicate
in English, read English, thattype of thing.
So this is just reinstatingthat provision to put a driver
(45:47):
out of service.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
So I will say, if you are not super familiar with
trucking rules, when you getpulled over for a roadside
inspection there are a list ofthings that if they catch you
with like a blown tire, it's anautomatic out of service.
You have to get that repaired.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, they shut you down right there on the spot
until you're repaired.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
If you have something else.
I'm trying to think of whatthey are.
It's been so long since I'velooked at that list.
I want to say like maybe aclearance light or something is
out, maybe a clearance light orsomething is out, or I think the
last time I looked at it wasabout LEDs, because nowadays
they make the LEDs with, likeit's, 100 LEDs in one light,
(46:26):
right, and they said, if youhave half those out, it's not
out of service, because half thelight is still working, but it
is a violation and you have toget it fixed.
Right.
So they'll send you on your way, but you've got to get it fixed
Right, so they'll send you onyour way, but you've got to get
that fixed.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Got to get it fixed.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I think brakes are the same way, aren't they Like?
If you're an 18-wheeler, youhave to have at least 20% of
your brakes functional.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yes, well, we should know that.
We should know that.
Something like that.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
So if you have one brake, that's not's, it's, it's
kind of that thing.
Yeah, so that's the basic gistof what.
What happened here?
Uh, there's lots of folks thatare are coming out behind this.
Uh, oida is is all over it.
Um, the arkansas people, umlegislatures are are happy to
see this be going national andnot just an ark thing.
So there's a lot of folks thatare happy to have this back in
(47:25):
play, because we're looking atnow yes, it's a safety thing is
where we're coming from.
If you can't read English orcommunicate with somebody in
English, meaning you can't readroad signs or understand them-
Are they governing weights orany of that?
Exactly weights or anything.
It's a safety issue and we wantto have folks on the road
(47:45):
driving large commercialvehicles that are able to
communicate in English.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
It kind of makes sense because, again, I just
looked up the law it is 20% ofyour brakes have to work.
So if you have an 18-wheeler,you've got 10 sets of brakes.
So two of those cannot befunctioning.
Sorry, two of those cannot beout, because that would equal
20%, right, but if you had oneout, that would be considered
less than 20%.
So you would actually theywould just write you a citation
(48:13):
for it, but you'd still be ableto roll on.
Or if you have, like, one ofthose heavy haul trucks that has
we've all seen them they have28 axles or something Just
insane amount of axles.
If you have three or four ofthose out, they'll send you on
your way, but that makes sensebecause you've got all these
other systems, so you've got 80%of your braking ability left.
(48:37):
If you can't read English, youcan't read a sign.
They're not even saying.
I did see one thing they weretalking about.
There is a set.
I'm all over the place.
That was a part of theconversation we had was who is
coming up with this test?
What do you have to read?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
That was in Arkansas.
They do actually have amandated here.
What do you have to read it?
Speaker 1 (48:59):
was in arkansas and they do actually have a mandated
.
Here's what you have to be ableto read, and if you can read
this, you're good.
So there is like you don't haveto know all the english, you
just have to know these basicthings, uh, to be able to get by
.
So if you can't do those basicthings, then you can't
(49:21):
necessarily read.
You may be able to read a speedlimit sign, but, like you said,
a bridge that says you know,you can only cross it at 60,000
pounds, but you're 80,000 pounds.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
You can't read that.
Or a sign that says emergencyexit.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Construction signs no the escape ramp.
Yeah, the escape ramp.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
You know those types of signs.
Runaway, runaway truck rampsyes, or construction signs, yeah
, where it's more than just anumber.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Their trucks are Right.
Speaker 5 (49:51):
Yeah, so those things are important.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
It also says that under Trump that they have to be
able to communicate withtraffic controllers safety.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
Yeah, if you get pulled in.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Your officers, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah.
So I mean yeah, you go in foryour inspection, you get pulled
in whatever.
Okay, Turn this on, turn thatoff.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
If they don't understand what that is how are
we going to do this?
Absolutely Blow your horn, whatthat has to be a thing Exactly.
It's interesting to see howmuch of this is coming back and
what the language they'reputting back in and stuff,
because we did talk about alittle bit of how much of this
is safety, how much of this isracism, bit of like how much
(50:43):
this is safety, how much this isracism, and, um, it does feel
like a lot of it is revertingback to what it was and it does
to me feel less like racism andmore like safety the more I've
delved into it sure on itssurface level, I think you could
make the argument of like well,they just don't want mexicans
here.
But when you you dig into it,you're like well, no, that's not
the case, Because they did rollback that provision and they
are being very specific on thisis what you need to know how to
(51:05):
read.
And they are saying like itdoes seem to be coming from a
very safety-minded philosophy.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
It does.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
It does.
But if one were to play devil'sadvocate and look at it a
different way?
Speaker 1 (51:17):
If one would.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
But if one were to play devil's advocate and look
at it a different way, it couldbe also seen as a very
well-crafted bit of.
We don't want others here.
If you take into account otherthings in our society right now,
it could be seen that way.
However, I will give them thatthis is a safety thing.
I've been on the road and hadto try and communicate with
somebody who didn't speakenglish and wasn't able to
because they didn't my.
My spanish wasn't good enough,um and you speak good.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
So those you don't know he speaks very good, uh,
spanish.
We've been to mexico together.
He's able to to really help out.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Yeah, I was unable to help this person and get this
person taken care of, so Iactually had to grab somebody
else and say, hey, can you helpBecause we're not communicating.
So fortunately it wasn't a diresituation where it was an
emergency.
But I'm dealing with anotherdriver who I couldn't talk to,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
No, I do, but I'm dealing with another driver who
I couldn't talk to, no doubt,sure, no, I do.
Again, I say, if you take thatbig view back and you look at it
and you go, here's all thecontext you could certainly come
up with that conclusion, but ifyou really dig into it, you try
to like okay, now that you'veseen what they're trying to do,
now argue against it.
Sure.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
You can't.
I want to see statistics.
I know that takes time.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
Yeah, it says since Obama administration that
traffic fatalities have gone up.
Yeah, concerning trucking,sorry, trucking fatalities have
gone up.
I would like to actually lookand see what the actual
statistics are as well.
Is that just because of that,or is that because there's more
people on the road driving, orless people on the road driving,
(53:00):
but we still have morefatalities?
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yeah, or is it?
What is the increase?
Is it one person?
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Right.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
To that point, though originally, during the Obama
administration, the reason itwas taken away was they said
there was no.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Did we need truck drivers as well?
Was that a thing of trying toget more people out there
helping out on the road, do youthink?
Speaker 5 (53:22):
So in the article this is from Freightways, by the
way it does say the reason theCVSA members voted to remove
English proficiency from itsout-of-service policy in 2015
was because, quote they couldnot substantiate the safety
impacts.
End quote.
Fmcsa stated in its 2016 policychange so they weren't seeing
(53:43):
that it was a safety issue then.
That's why it was removed.
It wasn't just a let's fill thetrucks with foreign truck
drivers.
They didn't see the safetyissue in the English proficiency
the safety issue in the Englishproficiency.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Does it say when the Mexico-US program went into
effect that allows Mexicandrivers to CDL holders to come
into America?
Speaker 5 (54:10):
This article does not address that at all.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Because I wonder if there's a correlation there.
It could be.
You could make the argumentthat, hey, once, maybe people
who kind of have been raisedaround seeing the road signs
even though they don't speakEnglish, they know what they say
.
Sure, like, if I go to Mexico,if I go to Canada and I see
(54:33):
Quest, I know it's West becauseI've been there enough.
So if you look at it and go,okay, well, these other people
came in from Mexico where theyhave no point of reference.
They've never seen this becauseof this program and then, all of
a sudden, the numbers haveticked back upwards.
I'm just curious.
(54:53):
Sure, everything I'm saying isa pure hypothesis, right, but I
would like to see some of thatdata.
They haven't given it to us.
So you're right, that is alittle frustrating.
But I can also see, you know,the knee jerk of crashes are
going up.
What can we do to pull it down?
And sometimes you make thosedecisions without having all the
(55:14):
data, so this may be that Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Well, I can say that probably the outer belt will be
keeping their eyes on this story.
Speaker 6 (55:25):
Yes, oklahoma did just introduce the same law, so,
yeah, it's spreading by statesas well it's not just oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
There's a couple of wyoming or another one had done
it and the last time we reportedand talked about it, a couple
of other states had done it yep,it's starting to grow and get
some steam behind it, so I thinkit will be nationwide
relatively soon.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
And, of course, the executive order.
It's federal interstate highwaysystem.
So that actually does kind ofhold a lot of weight.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, it does, yep, great story, great story.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Now people are more in the know.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
I never thought we'd stumble upon this.
We talked about it the otherday.
Speaker 5 (55:59):
I thought this was just an interesting case, I
thought it was a one-off kind ofthing.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
And here we are.
Who would have thought Arkansaswould lead the charge?
Speaker 2 (56:08):
Well, I think people need to keep commenting.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
They do.
Yeah, what else do you want tohear about?
What else do you all see?
Things that that we talk about,that you're like, oh man,
there's all this other stuff.
Right, keep us on our toes,because sometimes we see it like
this story was big enough thathad no one mentioned it.
We still called it, but it gotmentioned quite a bit.
(56:30):
No, we appreciate that feedback.
It really helps us guide andfigure out where we need to head
to next.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Thank you so much for hanging out with us.
You've been a wonderful crowd,uh.
If you do have anything you'dlike to tell us, drop us a
comment.
You can send us an email at theouter belt podcast at gmailcom.
That is the outer belt podcastat gmailcom, also referred to as
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Shoot us an email, shoot us acomment.
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And talk with him if you'd like.
If you are interested injoining Highfield Trek and come
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See what we're all about.
A couple weeks ago we talkedabout lift gates and the reason
that we have them and all thethought that went into putting
them on there, and we plan ongetting back on that as well at
some point.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
Well, if you want to talk to a recruiter such as
myself, you can call the833-HIGHFIELD.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
But not 5.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
But Well, at some point.
Well, if you want to talk to arecruiter such as myself, you
can call the 833.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Highfield, but not 5.
But not 5.
It'd be option 1, mondaythrough Friday, 8 am to 6 pm
Eastern time.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
And we know that Highfield's a weird way to write
it.
The way we do it, It'd be833-493-4353, 4353, option 1.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
And if you're driving and you can't write that down
right now, you can always findit where Jerry.
Speaker 6 (58:01):
At highfiltruckingcom .
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Or the comments.
Speaker 5 (58:05):
Or Facebook.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
Or the description of the video, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (58:07):
Well, if they're driving right now, let's not
look at the description.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
No, I'm saying when you stop, it'll be in the
description.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
You can find us at highfieldtrekkingcom.
Do we still have a chatfunction?
We sure do.
Speaker 6 (58:21):
And who mains it?
That would be Melissa, mainly.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Nice and I do Facebook Messenger, which is
pretty instant.
I mean, obviously, if I'm on acall I won't respond at the same
time, but promptly after I'lldo Facebook Messenger, instagram
Messenger, any instantmessaging service, including our
website.
I'll be the one behind it.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
Aol Instant Messenger yes.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
Maybe not that one MySpace.
No, no, no.
Speaker 5 (58:49):
No, but you can find us on Friendster.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
What about ICQ?
Speaker 3 (58:55):
ICQ, icq.
Speaker 6 (58:57):
I used to use that back in the day.
I did too, oh my gosh.
I used to use that back in theday.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
I did too.
Oh my gosh, I forgot about thatone.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
How far back do you want to go?
Speaker 5 (59:03):
No, I used to use Pong.
Oh no, that's different.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
So look log on to CompuServe and if you go down to
the I didn't use CompuServe.
I used it a while.
Sorry, didn't use CompUSA.
I used AOL.
Sorry, is it CompUSA?
Speaker 5 (59:21):
Do the CompUSA get the free CD?
If you go to the CompUSA andget the free 80 minutes of AOL.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Drop it into your CD-ROM on your compact passario.
Yeah, that's too funny, you'reall good.
Speaker 5 (59:36):
You're all good, no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Just make sure to disable call waiting when.
Speaker 2 (59:44):
I was a young man.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
No, it's been a lot of fun hanging out with y'all.
Please continue to drive safe.
Make good decisions.
Speaker 6 (59:51):
We'll see you next week, don't leave money on the
table and keep those wheels atheart Night.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
Bye, bye, ciao, table and keep those wheels of.
Speaker 4 (59:58):
Turner night.
Bye, ciao, thank you.
She's like I've been with him for two weeks.
How long have y'all beentogether?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
A week and some days.
Okay, it was a week on Saturday, wasn't it?
Just a few days.
He's got her voice.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well, you aren't normal now.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
On micro high pitch Wicked.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Wig.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Oh, are you on the same one?
I'm doing two, you too.
I'll get you, my friend, andyou're gonna die too.
Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
All right, guys, get it together.
Let's get serious, you ready.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We've already wasted a precious moment.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Okay, huzzah, hey everybody, welcome to the Outer
Belt.
My name is Patrick, I'm Chili.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm Buttermilk, I'm Eric, I'm Zucchini, I'm Eric,
I'm zucchini.
Bread and cherry Cherry.
Oh y'all, it's been a whilesince we've all been together.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And you're in the animal zoo.
What is it called?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
The morning zoo.
The morning zoo, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We're having too much fun.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right, enough of that, shenanigans.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Thank goodness, that's over.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, you sure had to suck a lot of helium to make
that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I know.
Thankfully I've got moreoxygens now.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, that helium tank was expensive.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
It was expensive, it was worth it though it was so
worth it, I didn't hail to youso worth it, I didn't.
I didn't, no.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
How you doing, jerry Bear.
Good, how are you?
I'm doing all right.
Long time no see, just a littlebit.
We'll tell everybody real quickIf you've noticed we.
So we're going to keep thatgoing a little bit longer.
But, Jerry Bear, it's prettymuch all your fault, Is it that
was my understanding.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
That was my understanding.
I think we all voted and agreedit was Jerry's fault.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
We did, we voted.
I think.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
I voted for like two episodes a week and they just
decided to go every other week,so y'all blame them.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Really, I thought you said two episodes a month.
No, really, I thought you saidtwo episodes a month.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's what I voted for.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I don't remember the voters' ballot he said bi-weekly
, I thought he meant every otherweek, not twice a week.
That's what I thought he meanttoo.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I was uninvited to the meeting.
I am so confused.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Well, patrick, and.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I voted yes.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Without none of us.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Without none of you.
So that's with all of you.
So that's with all of you.
Jerry made the suggestion, butwe all didn't get to vote Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
But well, really, you know, what determines the
frequency is, of course, thesponsors and, of course, today
we are proudly supported byJerry OTR Services.
That's right, what?
Yeah, okay, moving right along.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So doesn't matter, they're our sponsor.
Otr sponsors what OTR?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
sponsors.
Otr sponsors are service of theday.
Yes, oh my goodness.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
What service do?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
they provide.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Carb testing in the Columbus Ohio area.
Really, what is carb?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
testing Is that, where they like, check the food
and they see how manycarbohydrates are in it, I wish.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And how many Do they plug us in?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
They're like Patrick, you are 92% carbohydrates.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's like plug you in Okay pass gas.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
We'll find out if you're good to go.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's a snap test.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Different kind of emissions that's a snap test.
Different kind of emissionsthat's a snap test.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You've been sitting too long.
We need you to get up fivetimes Exactly.
Five times.
That's good.
So what is a CARP test?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
If you plan on doing any type of freight into the
state of California.
It is their new emissionsregulations, so it is a test
that is currently required twicea year, annually, every six
months.
Your due date is based off ofyour VIN number if your truck is
registered outside of the stateof California.
And yeah, it's an emissionstest.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And so with that emissions test, the proper name
of it is what?
Hdmi or something.
No, that's a cable.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
No, it's something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
HD Harley Davidson no New and but if you go to HD
OTR-servicescom, that'sOTR-servicescom.
They've got all the informationthere, a little fact sheet.
It will tell you what to dobefore you come in right.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Yes, just go in there .
The most important thing isjust not having any lights on on
your dash and you can go online, schedule, book your
appointment, pay and one of ourtechs will be out to see you.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And they've got a great group of techs.
They're super nice, superfriendly.
They'll come out, they'll pluginto the truck and do your right
.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Heads up.
Do you need to have your enginerunning ahead of time, or does
it need to be cold?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Either Okay, either is fine.
But you cannot under anycircumstance have a check engine
light or a mill light.
Which the mill light?
Is that amber.
It looks like a check enginelight but it doesn't say check
on it.
None of those lights.
If you have those lights on, goahead and dealership up.
First, get that cleared out, dofive, turn your truck on, get
(05:30):
it hot, cool it down five timesit's called a warm-up cycle and
then you'll be good to go.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
And that does have to be warmed up and then cooled
completely down.
And if you have an APU that istied into the engine, don't be
running that because it'll keepthe engine hot.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Absolutely Let that baby get cold, which is a
challenge.
Well, hold on.
First I'll say thank you, otrServices.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Thanks, OTR Services.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
For sponsoring the channel.
I appreciate that royalty checkevery now and then.
I think I got like 12 cents onthe last one.
Yeah, I have to split that withyou all at some point.
So, speaking of the weatherbeing harder to let your engine
cool down, how about thatweather Today?
It's gotten toasty.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh yeah, overall, yeah, but it's not here to stay.
I think we're going to get somespring weather.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Yeah, it's going to go back down into like the upper
60s 70s Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'll take it Right.
Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Oh my goodness, it's only going to be in the 60s,
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'm just saying it did peak, it peaked, it got
really hot.
Yeah, hot 80s, that's hot, itis.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well, let me ask you a question, With it getting all
the way down to the 60 thermalsinsulated socks, insulated
weatherproof boots, base layershirt, regular shirt, light
sweater, parka, raincoat, beanie, insulated gloves to work at 60
(07:03):
?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
At 60, I still am yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Around here people are jogging up and down the
street, like in Speedos.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
It helps with the weight loss.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I sweat it all out, but the bottled water budget
goes up considerably.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
I want to say that last Thursday was the first
shorts day of the year, that'sexciting.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, it's very exciting.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
I was excited to be in my shorts on Thursday, cool.
So I'm going to go ahead andcontinue to work on my spring
tan Nice With my shorts.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Nice, yeah, they call that a mechanics tan.
Right, they do.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, I think it was in the kitchen making coffee or
lunch.
You don't want to mess with thewhite balance, and he kind of
hops out of the bedroom and he'slike ta-da, and I'm like what
ta-da he's like look.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Oh, he's sporting the shorts.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
No you weren't.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You were sporting the shorts.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know, it's the thing that's like.
I love the warm weather.
I'm very grateful for it.
Last night we actually had achance most of us to hang out
and smoke a cigar and just chillout and decompress.
There's been a lot of crazyschedule stuff been happening
lately.
We'll talk about that shortly.
But just being out there inshorts, sun going down, it was
(08:25):
so nice and so comfortable and Imiss that so bad.
We've hung out outside but it'sbeen bundled up with the parkas
and the propane heaters allaround us.
It's about a six-foot section.
We have eight propane heaters.
I believe we're putting out340,000.
Btus of heat to keep us warmand you just pray.
(08:45):
There's no wind because it justwipes it all away.
But it was very nice.
But my only concern, complaint,negative thought about this
weather is we are very much inthat you wake up and it's 40
degrees.
Right Middle of the day it's 79.
And then it goes back down to40 degrees again that night.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It is doing the dippy-do.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It is hard to plan your entire daily wardrobe.
You really got to layer up.
You do so.
You can de-layer.
You shed some layers as the daygoes, yep, and then re-layer
later, but that's better thanthe dead of winter when it's
just.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No layers.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, all layers, all layers and then, come off and
they never come off and you staycold.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Why was it put to a vote to go biweekly?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh, the crazy schedule, oh, schedule.
Oh, I'm not going to say who,oh, but Jerry took two weeks off
in the most Like in life.
You have three reasons to notgo to work.
Right, right, sick.
Option number one is sick.
(09:53):
Can't go to work if you're sick, we all kind of recognize it.
We may not like it, but we allrecognize it.
Number two dead.
Oh, should you accidentally dieat night?
They don't, unless you work ata restaurant, because they will
ask you, they will drag your assin there what's?
it called Drag your ass in there, or a family show.
(10:13):
What's it called?
Not Bernie Sanders?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Weekend at Bernie's they will.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Weekend at.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Bernie's you there.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Next jukebox and the only other thing that gets you
out of work, unquestionably, isJury duty, jury duty and you got
the two-week lottery ticket,the golden ticket, to the
Franklin County Willy Wonka.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
I'm telling you you don't know how bad Dawn wanted
that.
I'm telling you For days, everymorning, that's all I heard is
oh, I wish I could go.
Oh, I wish I could go.
Can I take your place?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Don's calling like it's a restaurant.
I'd like to take Jerry's shift.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Can we just?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
What I thought was great was at the end of the two
weeks.
You sent us the letter, theofficial, and it's like do.
What I thought was great was atthe end of the two weeks you
sent us the letter, the officialand it's like do you think we
thought you were lying?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
I'm pretty sure it would have come out.
I didn't even know they weregoing to give that official
letter.
Oh really, yeah, showing thatyou were there for these many
days and everything.
So whenever I got that, withall their signatures and
everything, I'm like okay, I'msending this to Hafeu.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I have one of those letters too.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I just haven't pulled it out yet.
I'm waiting for the right twoweeks you got to get Jerry's and
get it photoshopped.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, you can send it down to Fiverr or wherever that
company is I?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
just had one made.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
I know a guy.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Whose signatures do you have on it?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Don't worry, about it , don't worry about it, don't
worry about it.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It doesn't matter, none of us are.
Are we comparing?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Are we going to the Secretary?
Speaker 5 (11:49):
of State website.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah don't worry about it.
Have you done jury duty before?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Never in my life.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And so this was an experience, though for you it
was I mean, without getting intodetails- yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
It was so in the state grand jury it wasn't just
a regular.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh, so you were the better jury.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Well, I wouldn't say better, but it was grand jury
and my letter says great juryOkay.
So before you can be chargedwith a federal crime in the
state of Ohio, it has to gobefore a grand jury and you're
basically just deciding ifthere's enough evidence to bring
charges.
You're not deciding guilt oranything like that.
(12:25):
So it was very interesting.
I learned a lot about the law,about the state law in Ohio.
Many, many—Ohio y'all love yourguns.
I'm telling you that seemed tobe three-fourths of the cases,
Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Guns.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
that seemed to be three-fourths of the cases, wow
Guns.
It was either something at homewith a gun or getting pulled
over, and they call it adisability.
You're either drunk and adisability, so your disability
is you're impaired.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Okay, yeah.
So you had a gun and you weredrunk, or you had a gun and you
were high, or pot or whateverthe case may be, sure, so a lot
of that stuff, but there was afew of the more serious things
like murder and stuff like that.
And then there was one that wasextremely out in left field
that caught me off guard, butoverall it was great.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Jimmy, did you make any friends?
I mean, I don't know, are youmaking friends when you're on a
jury?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Are you allowed to see I was going to say are you
allowed to go into the?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
bathroom together, or the lunchroom together or the
hallway together, I mean are youFacebook buddies now?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I would think it's like AA, where they want you to
stay anonymous?
Is that the case?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
No, we were welcome to talk to everybody and all
that.
And the way they set it up isyou have nine jurors I was juror
number six and then you havefive alternates in case one of
the main jurors are out.
So we all sit there and listento, we have people with officers
and detectives and all thosecome in, they testify, they give
(14:02):
us all the facts of the caseand Objectives, and all those
come in, they testify, they giveus all the facts of the case
and then, if all the jurors arethere, the alternates step out
and the main jurors vote.
If one of the main jurors isout, then an alternate will step
in.
And yeah, you're welcome totalk to each other.
You're welcome.
Everything was pretty casual.
They just asked that you keepyour phones on vibrate.
(14:30):
If you had to step out to takea call, then you didn't vote on
that case or something like that.
Wow, wow.
That's way different thanregular jury duty.
Yeah, it was pretty relaxed andlaid back and it's because it
is a set two week time period.
Sure, you have to go the entiretwo weeks.
It's not just do a jury dutyuntil they come to a conclusion
and you go home.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
How many cases did you see roughly in the two weeks
?
Speaker 6 (14:44):
We did on average, I would say a busy day was upwards
of 50.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And on a light day.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
It was upwards of like 22, 25.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Wow, I've never been picked for jury duty Ever.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I got picked.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Oh wait, I have.
But I had to say no thank youbecause I was a truck driver at
the time.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Did you really.
Was it thank you, though, orwas it just?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
No, they said the next time.
Well, I said I couldn't do itbecause I was on the road.
I mean, I gave my reason andthey said, OK, you get a
one-time pass, but then you haveto do it.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Then I think by then we had switched our licenses
from oregon to elsewhere, sojokes on them.
You left the state, right, yeah, so when that's her, that's her
new thing every time she getscalled for jury duty she just
leaves the state.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
When I went for the selection, uh, you go in on.
I went back in january and, uh,so they literally had hundreds
of people in this hugeauditorium and they tell you, if
you have a job where yourincome depends on it and you
cannot get off, you know, Iguess if you're a commission
base or something like that, youhad a chance to get out of it.
(15:55):
You had to present yourreasoning as to why you couldn't
do it and then they made thedetermination if you could get
out or not.
Nice.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And you were like no, I got plenty of time.
No, I actually did go up there.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
You only for two months.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
I did go up there and try to get out of it.
But the first thing they askedme was does your job depend on
it?
And I was like, eh, and I waslike, well, I kind of have to be
there.
It's a small company and shegoes are you salary?
And?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I no.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
I'm like okay, so that's exactly what she said to
me.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, my jury duty.
I got a call twice and bothI've been called three times.
First time I got out of it Iwas in college, so they pretty
much just immediately if you'regoing to be in college, we don't
even want you.
So I got out that way.
Second time they said we'll letyou get out of it for 30 days.
Louisiana is very strict and onday 31 you will be in this
(16:50):
courtroom.
And so I was like, well, ifthat's the case, I'm just gonna
go like this is stupid, right,right, um.
So I went and I was in and outon day two.
They let me out halfway through, never saw anything more.
That was at the old library,which if you're from Baton Rouge
, louisiana, you know the oldlibrary.
(17:10):
If you're not, imagine an oldlibrary.
It's been torn to the groundnow so it's not there anymore.
I can't show you.
It was so boring.
It was so boring I hated it.
The third time I got called forjury duty back in Louisiana,
but this time it was thecourthouse, because the old
library had been torn down andso we were in the brand new
(17:33):
courthouse and the brand newcourthouse had this huge
auditorium and we all hung outin there, they catered food for
us, they showed movies while wewere waiting, and I only did
that for one day and they cut meloose and I was like that's not
bad, it's definitely gotten alot better wow but um, I haven't
done anything here in ohio yet.
(17:53):
I you know as soon as I say thatit's going to show up in the
mail.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
But we did get to do something that not everybody
gets to do, and that is once aquarter.
In the state of ohio, the grandjury has to go to the old jail
and the new jail that they built, which opened up within the
last two years, and we actuallyhad to tour the entire jail,
look at the facilities and wehad to actually write up a whole
(18:19):
report on it, on what wethought about it, the food, how
the inmates are treated, wow.
The conditions, everything onboth.
Did you just look at the food?
How the inmates are treated?
The conditions everything onboth.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Did you just look at the food, or did y'all actually
eat there?
We?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
had to eat the food.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
At the jail.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
It was not good.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So it wasn't like all the prisoners or the jailers
Incarcerated.
It's not like all theincarcerated were like we can't
wait for grand jury day, becausethat's when the good food comes
All of a sudden it's like, ooh,what is that?
Fresh collard greens.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And what is that?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Little red beans and rye.
Look at me.
I'm going South Louisiana allof a sudden.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
What was?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
that Chicken fried steak with gravy on top oh,
they're eating great in here.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
The old jail was tacos and when I got my plate we
had to walk down a little shorthallway and back into this room
where we ate.
By the time I got my plate andgot back in the room and sat
down, the shell was so soggyfrom the grease from the
hamburger.
I had that much grease and, forthose who can't see, two inches
(19:18):
of grease in the bottom of myplate and it was literally slop,
wow.
And then the new jail.
I got up there there and theyhad this stuff that was supposed
to be Salisbury steak, but itwas green.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
That didn't look that gravy to me Well, so I didn't
have that.
I passed right over that andhad a hot dog, and even that was
questionable.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And how did your reporting go?
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Pretty much everybody said the same thing the food.
But you know me and one otherperson was like you know, you
really can't complain Like it'snot a Michelin restaurant, it's
jail.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You're you know they get three squares a day.
It doesn't mean they have to begood.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I think you're.
I think at that point you'rearguing the humanity of it,
right.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Is it Because?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I think back to these privatized jails back in the
day.
It's illegal now in most states, but not too long ago they were
serving these square bars,blocks of oh, like a protein
block kind of thing Like aprotein block thing.
It had vegetables and proteinand, like everything that you
(20:25):
needed to sustain life was inthere it was literally the three
squares Heather just mentioned.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
A square for the morning square yeah it was
disgusting and that was the onlything you ate, and so they
pretty much have said that wasinhumane.
And I don't think anyone doesit it, or at least most places
don't sure.
So I think that's what they'retrying to prevent but I do.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I want to mention, though, the new jail was
absolutely amazing.
The facilities are top-notchlike.
I have never experiencedanything like that in my life
from.
They actually do all thebookings in the new jail now,
and so we got to see everythingfrom them coming in on the bus
to pat downs to booking thewhole nine yards um the
(21:06):
facilities.
They had one room where thosewho are striving to do better
and rehabilitate themselves andstuff like that they actually
like wake up at eight o'clock inthe morning and they go through
classes.
It's like a wide, open communityarea.
They're locked down at nightwhenever they're asleep, but
other than that they open thejail up and everybody gets to
walk around and do what theywant and and stuff, and they
(21:29):
have a TV in there, but the TVdoesn't come on in that
particular room until like two,30 or three o'clock in the
afternoon, because in themornings they're all like these
classes and trying to betterthemselves and stuff like that.
One gentleman that we actuallytalked to, who he's been in
there for just almost threeyears, he's actually getting
ready to get out within the nexteight months, I believe, and
(21:51):
he's been offered a job.
So it's pretty cool ofeverything that they're doing.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Good, so were these jails or prisons?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
This is a jail, but everybody that is in there is
top offenders, the ones thatwe've seen.
So we're dealing with everybody, from your rapists to murderers
, to it's all felony crimes.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So he started the trend for Time Off.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yes, yes, well, no, I guess not really, because we
did the Mid-American Truck Show.
It was before that, but thatwas a quick thing and we still
recorded the main show duringthat time.
But he did his two weeks offand then Eric and I had to go,
(22:37):
didn't have to go, we got to goto, I almost said, new Orleans
to go to.
Memphis, Tennessee, to do aFedEx fleet summit.
So FedEx Custom Critical willtry to bring the fleet together,
the owners, so eitherowner-operators or fleet owners
and do a summit to talk aboutwhat's happening with the
(23:01):
company.
You get a State of the Unionaddress, basically for the
company.
You get a here's what we'regrowing, here's the kind of
trucks we need for the future.
So kind of like it's their wayof saying here's where our
business is going, so that youcan then plan your business to
help us with that or not, yourchoice.
You know they don't force youto do anything but right kind of
here's the direction we'regoing.
(23:21):
So you know, kind of like, maybedon't buy cargo vans because
we're not really going thatdirection, that's that sort of
thing, and that's not somethingthey said, that's just an
example, sure.
And so we brought Kelly andJimmy so, if you know, they've
been on the podcast before, butJimmy runs our maintenance
department and Kelly is ourFedEx fleet coordinator within
(23:45):
our fleet so they came out thereand we spent three days sitting
at FedEx Freight's worldheadquarters in.
Memphis, which is literally on agolf course.
That's not figuratively on thegolf course, it's literally on a
golf course.
That's not figuratively on thegolf course, it's literally on
the golf course.
We were sitting in theconference room.
(24:06):
It's nice.
They built it in 2019, notrealizing they weren't going to
be able to use it for threeyears.
Wow.
So they built it in 2019, andeverything in there is pristine
and brand new.
And you turn around from theconference room and behind you
is just like an Arnold Palmergrade golf course.
Wow.
I can't remember the name ofthe golf course, but Jimmy, who
(24:28):
does a lot more golfing than Ido, he does know it.
He's like oh my gosh, there's abig tournament here every year.
I've seen this on TV a thousandtimes.
I never realized that was.
Oh, is that the one Kelly?
Speaker 5 (24:37):
mentioned on the on the conference call TPC.
Yes, that's it.
Tpc stands for the players clubchampionship or players club,
but their TPC courses are.
Are the crazy high end courses,oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
He was shocked.
He was absolutely like floor.
That it's like like, and what'sreally cool is like FedEx the
freight world headquarters onone side of the golf course and
the other side is FedEx ExpressWorld headquarters.
So you do see, like they're onit's basically FedEx's golf
course is what I'm saying, andit's beautiful and it was, but
(25:09):
it was a really good time over.
There Got a lot of insight.
So there's been a lot of changes.
It's very public so I'm notbreaking any news here, but
FedEx Custom Critical has beenabsorbed into FedEx Freight.
So we still operate as FedExCustom Critical, but the money
flows, if you would, from FedExCustom Critical's bank account
(25:32):
into FedEx Freight's bankaccount, whereas before we used
to go into FedEx Express's bankaccount.
Not only are we a part of FedExFreight, but FedEx Freight and
FedEx Express are actuallyseparating.
They are becoming two separatepublicly traded companies.
So there's a lot going onbehind the scenes and they kind
(25:54):
of talk to us about what doesthat mean for the future and how
does that help us with ourbusiness and all this stuff.
The real bottom line gist of itis it's great FedEx Ground,
fedex Express are stayingtogether.
If you've watched any newslately, you've seen that FedEx
has been on the struggle busfinancially with the FedEx
Ground and the FedEx Expressoperation.
(26:16):
They've been selling airplanes.
They got rid of their US PostalService contracts.
They could stop flying duringthe day.
They've done a lot to reducetheir expenses and try to get
their company under control isthe wrong word, but more
efficient.
Fedex Freight, on the otherhand, is I'm not going to say
(26:36):
printing cash, because thatwould be the wrong way to put it
they're doing quite well.
Custom Critical is the otherbranch that we have always made
money.
It always makes money for FedEx.
It's a great brand.
They love owning CustomCritical.
So they kind of put the twohigh-earning companies together
(26:57):
and that's why they're spittingus off.
So they did disclose we aregoing to keep the FedEx branding
.
So there will be two FedExesFedEx Express, fedex Freight.
But they are going to be bothbranded FedEx, even though they
will no longer be the samecompany.
And you see this like it's notcrazy uncommon GE.
(27:18):
There's like five different GEcompanies.
They used to all be related butthey're not anymore.
So, like GE Healthcare is notrelated to the GE that makes
airplane engines.
Rolls-royce Cars is not relatedto the Rolls-Royce that makes
jet airplane engines.
Westinghouse which we allprobably have a Westinghouse
microwave or TV or refrigeratorat some point in our life has
(27:41):
nothing to do with theWestinghouse that builds nuclear
reactors, like they all kind of.
At some point a lot of thesereally massive companies do
break apart and so that's that'swhat's happening.
So they really kind of laiddown here's what's happening,
here's some new lines ofbusiness that we're going into
and stuff.
(28:04):
There was some stuff that wasdisclosed that we are not
allowed to talk about.
Um.
So you know, publicly tradedcompanies do have rules about
what can be shared publicly,what can't be shared publicly.
So there was certainly somestuff that was talked about
internally that we are notallowed to disclose.
Um, not insider trading stuff,nothing like that.
That's all pretty well public.
But just like new places wherethey're going to go after
freight that they haven't beengoing after, that they don't
(28:26):
want the world knowing untilthey start doing it, but they
need trucks to accomplish thatmission.
So it's important that we knowA lot of excitement happening.
I think that's the biggesttakeaway I got.
Eric, would you say the samething?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Basically a new relation between freight and
custom critical.
Are they going to work togethermore than they have in the past
?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Oh yeah, and just like when I look at so, in the
room there was the fleet owners,owner operators, there's also
these FedEx freight employeesand there's these FedEx custom
critical employees.
And obviously we know thecustom critical employees
because we've known them foryears.
We've had 14 years or whateverwith.
FedEx, so we know them quitewell and seeing their genuine
(29:12):
excitement about what'shappening and where the company
is going is just awesome.
We have not seen anything likethat since 2019, 2018.
Maybe, Eric, would you saywhere those employees are
genuinely excited about thethings that are coming up.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Yeah, Wow, that's a long time.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, it is I mean, don't get me wrong In the past
six, seven years, FedEx has.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
That's basically when we were starting.
No, because we got started in2012,.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
So that was probably five years in.
Okay, so over the last five orsix years we've clearly made
really good money with FedExCustomer Critical.
They're not like just becausethe people are excited doesn't
mean they've been a bad companyor whatever.
But there definitely has been alack of excitement about future
activities, future growth plansand all that stuff, and right
(30:03):
now it's like everyone's justlike this is finally going in a
direction we like to see itgoing.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Even our contractors are going to be happy with
what's going on.
Yeah, and they're in.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Some of the development, some of the big
projects.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
It's always exciting when you see a big company put
millions of dollars ininfrastructure in so yeah, maybe
electronic scan in a barcodeand quit writing out BOLs One
day maybe.
There were products presentedto us so I can't say what all
they're there for, but some ofthat stuff's going to be rolling
(30:38):
out real soon.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yep, I am excited.
One thing that's reallyexciting that FedEx is doing
that.
Fedex Freight is doing that I'mreally excited about.
That's a lot of excitement.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
We can tell you're excited.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
It's passionate to us because we obviously have
talked about it many times onthis show is parking as y'all,
we operate the lack of parking.
We operate in a lot of majorlyhuge big cities that don't have
very good parking situations.
Fedex Freight is now openingtheir doors, literally, and
their gates, to FedEx customcritical drivers to be able to
(31:16):
park in FedEx Freight facilities.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Absolutely so if you are headed to Chicago, where we
all know Chicago has a horribleparking situation.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Or Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Or Los Angeles is another good one, or New York
City, san Francisco, sanFrancisco.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
We'll spread along out.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
There's.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Oregon, Seattle, there's Portland.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Omaha.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Nebraska, omaha, nebraska, omaha, nebraska.
No, they got the casinos.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
You got Not Dallas, not Dallas.
Did we already say Atlanta?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You did start with Atlanta, dallas is a good one,
because Dallas has an abundanceof parking down south, but you
might also get shot.
Atlanta is the same way.
Atlanta doesn't have much verygood parking.
Memphis is maybe, I don't know.
West Memphis has plenty ofparking, though.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yes, but do you want to use it?
They know that is a dangerousside.
Is it West Memphis?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
yeah, oh, I thought that was better than the doesn't
matter so.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
At any rate, they're opening their gates.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
They're opening their gates.
So if you're a FedEx customcritical contractor, right now
today you can call in and thereare a large number of FedEx
Freight facilities that you haveaccess to.
They implemented that a monthor two ago.
That's awesome, but it's notall of them, but it's a lot and
coming up really soon it will beopening to every FedEx Freight
(32:34):
facility.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So that's huge.
That's very exciting becausethere's FedEx Freight in every
city and, like Los Angeles,there's like eight FedEx Freight
places.
Yeah, it's a big city.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
So is it just intended for parking and you
leave or you park and you canstay on site?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
They are allowing multiple things for you to park
at.
If you have a mechanicalfailure and you just need a
place to go so they can get atruck to come in, like a service
truck to come work on yourtruck or whatever, they're
allowing you to park there whileyou bring a service truck in,
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they're allowing you to.
You got too much time on theload and you just need a place
to park.
Angeles, where when you go forhome time you have a hard time
parking because there's not good, safe parking.
They're allowing them to parktheir vehicles there for
extended periods for home time.
So, they're really, reallyrolling out the red carpet.
(33:34):
What I think is really coolabout it, too, is we have a lot
of teams like to cruise, and soI know that's a common thing.
Get a load down to Florida andthen leave your truck at a truck
stop and hope for the best asyou go on a cruise.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Well, now it doesn't get towed.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yep, and now you can.
Just if you're a FedEx, you canleave your truck at a FedEx
freight facility.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
While you go on your cruise and come back and know
it's there.
So some very cool stuff that'shappening and I think they're
working on they don't have ityet, but they're working on
getting everybody full bathroom,lounge or driver's lounge areas
at the FedEx Freight facilitiesas well.
So when you go in there andyou're like down for a little
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bit, you have access to amicrowave or a lounge if you
want to sit instead of justbeing inside the truck, if
you're down for a weekend orsomething like that and a
bathroom.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And a bathroom.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
They don't have that yet, but they're working on it.
So yeah, the bathroom thinggets a little.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Can be a little tricky.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
A little tricky.
It's some really cool stuff.
I'm very excited to see thesechanges and you know, that kind
of thing doesn't make fedex anymore money, it's just a hundred
percent to improve the qualityof life of the driver.
So that's the kind of thingthat's like.
That's cool.
That's exciting that they areactually focusing on the, the
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driver's experience.
They, they really, really drovehome.
It was the very first thingthey talked about which, which
was their culture.
And I remember seeing thatthinking like, okay, well, all
these meetings are about yourculture, right.
And then, as you go throughoutthe meetings, we realized, oh,
they're serious.
Like they are, we will fire youserious about getting their
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culture into a very supportivecommunity.
So I'm excited to see thatBecause I think you know, jerry,
you've been around a long time,many, many, many years Like
whew a long time Back in 2002.
Yeah, like you remember, you'repaper log old, so you remember
(35:39):
the culture at FedEx used to bevery business but also driver.
We're all in this together,kind of focus, right.
Yes, and I know because you gotoff the road only a couple
years ago.
You saw that kind of fall apartover the last few years, right.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
So it really kind of that culture aspect.
Not the company didn't fallapart because they're still
again great money-making trucks,they're just the culture kind
of like it disappeared, it tooka backseat to the business.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
And it's great to see it like this new management get
in there and go.
No, no, no.
We're going to clean this upLike our culture matters.
We're going to clean this upLike our culture matters.
The purple promise is what Iwas brought to bring in, which
is what again?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You have to wear purple.
We promise to wear purple.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
You have to drink the Kool-Aid, I don't know.
Get a tattoo.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Like, what are we doing for purple?
I never did the tattoo thing.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I remember.
I can see it clear as day in mymind on the side of the wall if
custom critical, but I don'tknow it by heart.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
They'd like a slogan.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Or a motto, or whatever you call it.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
Motto.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
What's a motto?
What's a motto?
Nothing.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
What's a motto to you Hakuna Matata?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Oh my goodness, what a wonderful phrase.
The purple promise is to makeevery.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
FedEx experience outstanding.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Wow, just that easy, and they do mean that, in the
terms of driver to customer,from employee to office, worker
to driver, dispatch to driver,employee to employee, like that
is the like, everything has tobe outstanding, and so that used
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to be like a huge part of theculture.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
it was crazy just a couple weeks ago.
Um, don's niece she is, she'snot a ranger, but she is like
over a huge department in thewildlife forestry up in upper
michigan, in the upper peninsulaand uh, so she sends me and don
a message and she's like I'vegot something to ship.
(37:49):
Who can I call?
So we give her a call and askher a couple questions and
everything, and come to find outthey had this huge box that
needed to go out to WashingtonState where they were actually
going to be doing whatever theydo with it and then ship it back
and after filling her out and acouple questions, she actually
(38:11):
called FedEx and shipped it withFedEx.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Cool, that's pretty cool yeah, it's a great company.
Love working with, with themLike really do, and I've enjoyed
the partnership we've had overthe years.
It's nice to see excitementagain.
It's nice to see culture again,and part of that too has just
been COVID.
Covid kind of came in and madeeverybody work from home and it
(38:34):
was hard to keep a culture inthat kind of environment, but
it's just nice seeing all thatcome back together.
I think, of course, being inMemphis was kind of a neat
change.
Usually we used to do thesethings in Cleveland, ohio, akron
, ohio area and just getting achange of scenery, being in
Memphis and seeing like oh,here's the actual headquarters,
(38:54):
here's all these things, and Ireally like that.
They took us out to a baseballgame.
Memphis has the cutest littlebaseball park.
They took us out to a baseballgame.
Memphis has the cutest littlebaseball park.
They have the Redbirds there,which of course means they're
owned by the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
That makes sense.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Redbirds.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Cardinals, which I think is funny because
apparently Redbird is an insultto a Cardinals fan, but it's
their minor league baseball team, so I'm like interesting.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I mean you could kind of see that right.
You're playing like a Redbirdinstead of like a.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Cardinal yeah.
But, overall great experienceat FedEx as Fleet Intermediate.
We have one coming up withPanther in July, I want to say.
So you know, it's always fun togo and hang out with these
people and see kind of wheretheir minds are at and what they
project the business to be atand things like that, so you can
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kind of make plans.
And yeah, nice.
Now, melissa, what, you're notgetting off that easy.
What?
When Jerry left, you also left,and where did you go?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I went to Oregon.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
The trail.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Close, About 20 minutes from the trail.
Yes, I went to Southern Oregonand visit the younger son and
his family and the grandson theyoungest grandson and stayed
there a little over a week.
Bestie's there too, so stayedwith her and then when I left
(40:26):
there, I flew into Arkansaswhere my older son was with my
older two grandsons and stayedthere for a few days, and then
the older son and I made our wayhere to Columbus.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Y'all road tripped it .
Speaker 2 (40:38):
It was fun.
We stopped in Memphis.
He had never not Memphis.
Well, we did Memphis.
We had a wonderful suggestedbarbecue lunch in Memphis down
on Beale Street.
That was a lot of fun.
And then we did Nashville downon Broadway for Monday night and
then we made our way home.
Now we've been here.
(40:59):
So, yeah, april's been kind offull.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Kind of full.
It just kind of flew by, didn'tit?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Looking forward to a relaxing May.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I see why we've gone to every other week.
Everybody's been kind of Well,and then we're coming into
summer when vacations happen.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yes, yeah, it's been insane we do have to talk about.
Are we going to take a summerbreak like we normally do?
Are we going to try to?
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Like a hiatus.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Yeah, are we going to try and get like 15 shows in
over the next few days.
We could, yeah, we could.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I say we do another one right after this.
Yeah, we should, you're right.
I think I have plans.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I definitely got the vote.
I got the ballot on that vote.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, Jerry and I have something we need to do.
They're going to go.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
We are getting up there in numbers.
I mean we're like at episode 28or something, since we started.
No, like this season.
Oh wow, just this season.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Wow, that's the most we've hit.
So far.
That's pretty consistent for us.
Wow, I'm shocked.
I'm shocked, it is Well, we doneed to talk about one thing,
which is the news, which is thenews that you've all been
sending me emails and textmessages.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Instagram messages.
Are they doing telegraph DMs onX?
Speaker 1 (42:12):
DMs on X.
Your blue sky is blowing up,isn't it?
Oh, the blue sky is blowing up,isn't it?
Oh, the blue sky is red.
It's insane.
And then it's all about thesenon-English speaking drivers
that we talked about not toolong ago.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Oh dear.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Apparently it's been all over the news after we
covered it.
Just want to point that out,that we covered it first.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Oh, we covered it first.
Yes, live from the outer belt.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yes, we heard it here first you saw it here, first
the outer belt.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yes, we heard it here first but there's been like 17
different forms of upgrades, ofchanges, and laws are changing
and people are getting fired andsomeone said they were going to
make things great again and Ihave not caught up with the
latest little bit of news.
I've just seen what I've beengetting Again.
(42:58):
It's literally been a lot.
I've probably got 20 differentmessages and emails about this
one topic, so we need an update.
I think Think of anyone betterto talk about that subject than
my man, the one, the only ChileWhoop, whoop, whoop.
Check it out.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
Whoop, whoop.
I am so unprepared for this.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
We're hyping you up, are you really?
Speaker 5 (43:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'm ready.
Okay, good, you had me scared.
You had me scared, I'm likethis frightened you.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
So a couple episodes ago we talked about the bill
that was introduced in Arkansas.
Yes, that would require acommercial vehicle driver to
have a domestically issued CDL.
Correct, and there are alsolanguage provisions to be able
to speak and read English.
(43:48):
Well, that bill was withdrawn.
Oh, and a new bill wasintroduced that took away the
domestic driver's licenseportion and only required
language proficiency forcommercial motor vehicle drivers
in the state of Arkansas.
If you're going to drive acommercial motor vehicle in
Arkansas, you had to beproficient in English.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
So kind of what we talked about with.
I don't know how they can dothis, because of the.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Mexico and the interstate commerce and all that
Okay.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
So they heard our podcast.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
They heard our podcast and they said he's got a
good argument.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Exactly.
Yeah, we do have a very largeArkansasian fan base.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I don't know if y'all know or not we actually do, we
do, we do.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
A little rock and all .
There's a huge group inBentonville.
I've heard.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, rock and all.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
There's a huge group in Bentonville, I've heard yeah,
huge, yep, huge, huge, yeah.
So that passed in Arkansas.
And then, just in the lastcouple of days, president Trump
signed an executive order thatrequires English proficiency in
speaking English, communicatingin English and being able to
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read English.
So a lot of folks are saying,well, that's in the handbook for
the longest time.
Well, the executive order thatPresident Trump signed the other
day actually requires a truckdriver to be able to speak
English or be placed out ofservice.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Oh so he gave it actionable penalty.
Yes, he did.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
Wow, which apparently was in the law before.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (45:25):
And in 2016, the policy change was made under the
Obama administration thatremoved the requirement to place
a driver out of service if theycouldn't speak or communicate
in English, read English, thattype of thing.
So this is just reinstatingthat provision to put a driver
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out of service.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
So I will say, if you are not super familiar with
trucking rules, when you getpulled over for a roadside
inspection there are a list ofthings that if they catch you
with like a blown tire, it's anautomatic out of service.
You have to get that repaired.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, they shut you down right there on the spot
until you're repaired.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
If you have something else.
I'm trying to think of whatthey are.
It's been so long since I'velooked at that list.
I want to say like maybe aclearance light or something is
out, maybe a clearance light orsomething is out, or I think the
last time I looked at it wasabout LEDs, because nowadays
they make the LEDs with, likeit's, 100 LEDs in one light,
(46:26):
right, and they said, if youhave half those out, it's not
out of service, because half thelight is still working, but it
is a violation and you have toget it fixed.
Right.
So they'll send you on your way, but you've got to get it fixed
Right, so they'll send you onyour way, but you've got to get
that fixed.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Got to get it fixed.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I think brakes are the same way, aren't they Like?
If you're an 18-wheeler, youhave to have at least 20% of
your brakes functional.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yes, well, we should know that.
We should know that.
Something like that.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
So if you have one brake, that's not's, it's, it's
kind of that thing.
Yeah, so that's the basic gistof what.
What happened here?
Uh, there's lots of folks thatare are coming out behind this.
Uh, oida is is all over it.
Um, the arkansas people, umlegislatures are are happy to
see this be going national andnot just an ark thing.
So there's a lot of folks thatare happy to have this back in
(47:25):
play, because we're looking atnow yes, it's a safety thing is
where we're coming from.
If you can't read English orcommunicate with somebody in
English, meaning you can't readroad signs or understand them-
Are they governing weights orany of that?
Exactly weights or anything.
It's a safety issue and we wantto have folks on the road
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driving large commercialvehicles that are able to
communicate in English.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
It kind of makes sense because, again, I just
looked up the law it is 20% ofyour brakes have to work.
So if you have an 18-wheeler,you've got 10 sets of brakes.
So two of those cannot befunctioning.
Sorry, two of those cannot beout, because that would equal
20%, right, but if you had oneout, that would be considered
less than 20%.
So you would actually theywould just write you a citation
(48:13):
for it, but you'd still be ableto roll on.
Or if you have, like, one ofthose heavy haul trucks that has
we've all seen them they have28 axles or something Just
insane amount of axles.
If you have three or four ofthose out, they'll send you on
your way, but that makes sensebecause you've got all these
other systems, so you've got 80%of your braking ability left.
(48:37):
If you can't read English, youcan't read a sign.
They're not even saying.
I did see one thing they weretalking about.
There is a set.
I'm all over the place.
That was a part of theconversation we had was who is
coming up with this test?
What do you have to read?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
That was in Arkansas.
They do actually have amandated here.
What do you have to read it?
Speaker 1 (48:59):
was in arkansas and they do actually have a mandated
.
Here's what you have to be ableto read, and if you can read
this, you're good.
So there is like you don't haveto know all the english, you
just have to know these basicthings, uh, to be able to get by
.
So if you can't do those basicthings, then you can't
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necessarily read.
You may be able to read a speedlimit sign, but, like you said,
a bridge that says you know,you can only cross it at 60,000
pounds, but you're 80,000 pounds.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
You can't read that.
Or a sign that says emergencyexit.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Construction signs no the escape ramp.
Yeah, the escape ramp.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
You know those types of signs.
Runaway, runaway truck rampsyes, or construction signs, yeah
, where it's more than just anumber.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Their trucks are Right.
Speaker 5 (49:51):
Yeah, so those things are important.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
It also says that under Trump that they have to be
able to communicate withtraffic controllers safety.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
Yeah, if you get pulled in.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Your officers, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah.
So I mean yeah, you go in foryour inspection, you get pulled
in whatever.
Okay, Turn this on, turn thatoff.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
If they don't understand what that is how are
we going to do this?
Absolutely Blow your horn, whatthat has to be a thing Exactly.
It's interesting to see howmuch of this is coming back and
what the language they'reputting back in and stuff,
because we did talk about alittle bit of how much of this
is safety, how much of this isracism, bit of like how much
(50:43):
this is safety, how much this isracism, and, um, it does feel
like a lot of it is revertingback to what it was and it does
to me feel less like racism andmore like safety the more I've
delved into it sure on itssurface level, I think you could
make the argument of like well,they just don't want mexicans
here.
But when you you dig into it,you're like well, no, that's not
the case, Because they did rollback that provision and they
are being very specific on thisis what you need to know how to
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read.
And they are saying like itdoes seem to be coming from a
very safety-minded philosophy.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
It does.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
It does.
But if one were to play devil'sadvocate and look at it a
different way?
Speaker 1 (51:17):
If one would.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
But if one were to play devil's advocate and look
at it a different way, it couldbe also seen as a very
well-crafted bit of.
We don't want others here.
If you take into account otherthings in our society right now,
it could be seen that way.
However, I will give them thatthis is a safety thing.
I've been on the road and hadto try and communicate with
somebody who didn't speakenglish and wasn't able to
because they didn't my.
My spanish wasn't good enough,um and you speak good.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
So those you don't know he speaks very good, uh,
spanish.
We've been to mexico together.
He's able to to really help out.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
Yeah, I was unable to help this person and get this
person taken care of, so Iactually had to grab somebody
else and say, hey, can you helpBecause we're not communicating.
So fortunately it wasn't a diresituation where it was an
emergency.
But I'm dealing with anotherdriver who I couldn't talk to,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
No, I do, but I'm dealing with another driver who
I couldn't talk to, no doubt,sure, no, I do.
Again, I say, if you take thatbig view back and you look at it
and you go, here's all thecontext you could certainly come
up with that conclusion, but ifyou really dig into it, you try
to like okay, now that you'veseen what they're trying to do,
now argue against it.
Sure.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
You can't.
I want to see statistics.
I know that takes time.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
Yeah, it says since Obama administration that
traffic fatalities have gone up.
Yeah, concerning trucking,sorry, trucking fatalities have
gone up.
I would like to actually lookand see what the actual
statistics are as well.
Is that just because of that,or is that because there's more
people on the road driving, orless people on the road driving,
(53:00):
but we still have morefatalities?
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yeah, or is it?
What is the increase?
Is it one person?
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Right.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
To that point, though originally, during the Obama
administration, the reason itwas taken away was they said
there was no.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Did we need truck drivers as well?
Was that a thing of trying toget more people out there
helping out on the road, do youthink?
Speaker 5 (53:22):
So in the article this is from Freightways, by the
way it does say the reason theCVSA members voted to remove
English proficiency from itsout-of-service policy in 2015
was because, quote they couldnot substantiate the safety
impacts.
End quote.
Fmcsa stated in its 2016 policychange so they weren't seeing
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that it was a safety issue then.
That's why it was removed.
It wasn't just a let's fill thetrucks with foreign truck
drivers.
They didn't see the safetyissue in the English proficiency
the safety issue in the Englishproficiency.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Does it say when the Mexico-US program went into
effect that allows Mexicandrivers to CDL holders to come
into America?
Speaker 5 (54:10):
This article does not address that at all.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Because I wonder if there's a correlation there.
It could be.
You could make the argumentthat, hey, once, maybe people
who kind of have been raisedaround seeing the road signs
even though they don't speakEnglish, they know what they say
.
Sure, like, if I go to Mexico,if I go to Canada and I see
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Quest, I know it's West becauseI've been there enough.
So if you look at it and go,okay, well, these other people
came in from Mexico where theyhave no point of reference.
They've never seen this becauseof this program and then, all of
a sudden, the numbers haveticked back upwards.
I'm just curious.
(54:53):
Sure, everything I'm saying isa pure hypothesis, right, but I
would like to see some of thatdata.
They haven't given it to us.
So you're right, that is alittle frustrating.
But I can also see, you know,the knee jerk of crashes are
going up.
What can we do to pull it down?
And sometimes you make thosedecisions without having all the
(55:14):
data, so this may be that Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Well, I can say that probably the outer belt will be
keeping their eyes on this story.
Speaker 6 (55:25):
Yes, oklahoma did just introduce the same law, so,
yeah, it's spreading by statesas well it's not just oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
There's a couple of wyoming or another one had done
it and the last time we reportedand talked about it, a couple
of other states had done it yep,it's starting to grow and get
some steam behind it, so I thinkit will be nationwide
relatively soon.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
And, of course, the executive order.
It's federal interstate highwaysystem.
So that actually does kind ofhold a lot of weight.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, it does, yep, great story, great story.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Now people are more in the know.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
I never thought we'd stumble upon this.
We talked about it the otherday.
Speaker 5 (55:59):
I thought this was just an interesting case, I
thought it was a one-off kind ofthing.
Speaker 1 (56:04):
And here we are.
Who would have thought Arkansaswould lead the charge?
Speaker 2 (56:08):
Well, I think people need to keep commenting.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
They do.
Yeah, what else do you want tohear about?
What else do you all see?
Things that that we talk about,that you're like, oh man,
there's all this other stuff.
Right, keep us on our toes,because sometimes we see it like
this story was big enough thathad no one mentioned it.
We still called it, but it gotmentioned quite a bit.
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No, we appreciate that feedback.
It really helps us guide andfigure out where we need to head
to next.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Thank you so much for hanging out with us.
You've been a wonderful crowd,uh.
If you do have anything you'dlike to tell us, drop us a
comment.
You can send us an email at theouter belt podcast at gmailcom.
That is the outer belt podcastat gmailcom, also referred to as
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Shoot us an email, shoot us acomment.
(57:02):
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See what we're all about.
A couple weeks ago we talkedabout lift gates and the reason
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them on there, and we plan ongetting back on that as well at
some point.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
Well, if you want to talk to a recruiter such as
myself, you can call the833-HIGHFIELD.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
But not 5.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
But Well, at some point.
Well, if you want to talk to arecruiter such as myself, you
can call the 833.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Highfield, but not 5.
But not 5.
It'd be option 1, mondaythrough Friday, 8 am to 6 pm
Eastern time.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
And we know that Highfield's a weird way to write
it.
The way we do it, It'd be833-493-4353, 4353, option 1.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
And if you're driving and you can't write that down
right now, you can always findit where Jerry.
Speaker 6 (58:01):
At highfiltruckingcom .
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Or the comments.
Speaker 5 (58:05):
Or Facebook.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
Or the description of the video, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (58:07):
Well, if they're driving right now, let's not
look at the description.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
No, I'm saying when you stop, it'll be in the
description.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
You can find us at highfieldtrekkingcom.
Do we still have a chatfunction?
We sure do.
Speaker 6 (58:21):
And who mains it?
That would be Melissa, mainly.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Nice and I do Facebook Messenger, which is
pretty instant.
I mean, obviously, if I'm on acall I won't respond at the same
time, but promptly after I'lldo Facebook Messenger, instagram
Messenger, any instantmessaging service, including our
website.
I'll be the one behind it.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
Aol Instant Messenger yes.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
Maybe not that one MySpace.
No, no, no.
Speaker 5 (58:49):
No, but you can find us on Friendster.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
What about ICQ?
Speaker 3 (58:55):
ICQ, icq.
Speaker 6 (58:57):
I used to use that back in the day.
I did too, oh my gosh.
I used to use that back in theday.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
I did too.
Oh my gosh, I forgot about thatone.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
How far back do you want to go?
Speaker 5 (59:03):
No, I used to use Pong.
Oh no, that's different.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
So look log on to CompuServe and if you go down to
the I didn't use CompuServe.
I used it a while.
Sorry, didn't use CompUSA.
I used AOL.
Sorry, is it CompUSA?
Speaker 5 (59:21):
Do the CompUSA get the free CD?
If you go to the CompUSA andget the free 80 minutes of AOL.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Drop it into your CD-ROM on your compact passario.
Yeah, that's too funny, you'reall good.
Speaker 5 (59:36):
You're all good, no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
Just make sure to disable call waiting when.
Speaker 2 (59:44):
I was a young man.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
No, it's been a lot of fun hanging out with y'all.
Please continue to drive safe.
Make good decisions.
Speaker 6 (59:51):
We'll see you next week, don't leave money on the
table and keep those wheels atheart Night.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
Bye, bye, ciao, table and keep those wheels of.
Speaker 4 (59:58):
Turner night.
Bye, ciao, thank you.
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