Tolls and Tribulations: The NYC Congestion Debate

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are we ready?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (00:02):
When Hurry, Jerry.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey everybody, Welcome to the Outer Belt.
I'm Patrick and you all knowour friends Chili.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Buttermilk.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Eric.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Zucchini bread and Jerry Woohoo, I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Glad you could make it to the show.
Sorry to be rushing in likethis, but we have some breaking
news.
We've got some craziness thathas gone on and happened.
We reported on this a coupleweeks ago and the Trump
administration, with the newDepartment of Transportation,
Sean Duffy.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
Duff.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Duff Like the beer.
Yeah, they have given New York21 days to turn their congested
tolling off.
That's right, you heard mecorrect.
They are not fans and they havetold the state you cannot do

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this any longer On any road theyget federal funding Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Quick correction it is Duffy, just in case there's
any credits going out there.
Well, that is what I said.
Well, I just want to make surethe story going forward is
fact-checked.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I rely on the people that I employ their services and
producing ways to not let medown.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well, when I ran this article through AI to summarize
it, so I didn't have to read itit didn't give me a name, so I
apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, as you can imagine, there's some tension,
right?
Yeah, so the governor now I donot know how to pronounce her
name and I do apologize.
It's like Hocule Hocule.
That's what I was going to sayin a not-at-all-kind-of-way.
It's Governor Hocule H and it'sGovernor Hockenell, hockenell,

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hockenell.
There's no N-R-A in that name.
Hockule Hockule.
She has said that we're goingto take this to courts and we're
going to challenge you on it.
Now, so far, it's been inservice for about a month and
the state has made $40.1 millionon it, something like that.
$49.

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$49 million out of this toll$49 million in a month.
In a month.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
In a month.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, and the numbers were interesting because $10
million of it is from rideshare.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
For hire vehicles, For hire vehicles, so that would
be rideshare taxi, limousines,that nature because you do have
a lot of limousines runningaround that area.
Of the remaining $38 million,it says $85 was for passenger
vehicles 85%, yes, 85%.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
$85 million of the $39 million, 85 million of the
30.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, no, no the 49 million 85% was for passenger
vehicles and 15 was for trucks,buses and motorcycles.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Which is interesting because that was the big concern
up front was that the truckswere going to pay a
disproportionate amount towardsit, and it doesn't seem like the
ride.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
share the friars.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
The ride share, definitely in Friars the ride
share definitely, and theprivate vehicles.
Those two are by far thebiggest contributors.
Now I do think, although thisnumber is huge, I do think it'll
probably scale down a littlebit, because I'm sure there's a
lot of people that are trying tofigure out, like you know what
I'm just going to drive in andI'll try to figure out my bus

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route or my train route andafter a couple months of paying
this, they're going to be like,yeah, screw it, I'm jumping on
the LIR or whatever you knowthey're not, I'll take the path
into it, which is the New JerseyLIR Long Island Railroad.
So far, they've seen reallygood results out of it.
Yeah, which is?
You know?
Again, I was a fan of it, ifyou remember.

(04:04):
I, which is, you know, again, Iwas a fan of it, if you
remember.
I know a lot of people aren't,don't take it out on me if
you're not a fan.
That's cool.
I understand that there's a lotof people that are not for it,
but I am.
I like what it provides.
But the Trump administrationhas sent a letter saying you
must quit doing it.
They are calling for an orderlycessation of the tolls.
And the governor replied backwith that's nice, we're going to

(04:28):
do an orderly resistance toyour mandate.
So it is in the government'shand right now.
So everybody's kind ofexpecting that, from what I've
read, that the courts are goingto pause the DOT's stop.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Orderly cessation Orderly cessation.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, they're going to allow New York City to
continue those for a little bitwhile they can build a case.
You know, because it'shappening so fast, the court
will sometimes step in, even ifit's not going to be like.
This is not the judgment forwhat's really going to happen,
it's just a we've got to pumpthe brakes and give you a chance
to respond, because that'smoving a little too quickly.
A lot of people do think that'swhat's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think about all the wonderful things they were
saying that that was going to beallocated for.
You know, you have 49 millionWow.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, it's interesting if you look at some
of the crime statistics.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
That was pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
And they contribute a lot of that to.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
so those crime statistics, I'm trying to pull
them up If someone has it up youcan go ahead and say what it is
A more than 36% drop in majorfelony crimes, including murder,
rape and robbery, across thesystem compared to January of
last year, along with a 73% risein arrest.
The transit agency credits moreofficers riding trains and
working overnight shifts, aswell as a new fare evasion

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spikes on turnstiles as part ofwhy some of this reduction.
But who knew that limiting thenumber of vehicles coming in on
the city would decrease crimelike this?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's part of that thing is where they're
allocating those funds right.
So they are putting some ofthat money towards improving
infrastructure and they'reputting some of that money
towards getting more cops instations to make them safer,
because that's been a bigconcern.
It's like why would I want toride the subway when it's
falling apart, constantlydelayed and there's high crime
on it?
Well, if you decrease thebehavior and also increase

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funding, you can make bigchanges and so far.
We're a month in and we've seenthat that has actually been the
case.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
It seems pretty drastic all the way around for
just one month.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
It really does.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Didn't they also say too I mean it also less
congestion.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
They have an easier way of getting to whatever the
situation is.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Part of this article that was sent out isn't a press
conference.
The governor was at the MTAmeeting earlier today and she
was talking about it took twohours to get into the city to go
see a play or something, andhow?

(07:06):
Now, with this congestionpricing, there's less congestion
.
They have all this revenue fromit, but there still is less
congestion and people are ableto move around the city a lot
more efficiently than they usedto be able to.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Absolutely.
I mean, this is one of thosethings I said last time we
talked about it.
We talked about it havingtraveled around Paris and London
and some of these other placesthat do congestive pricing and
seeing what a major change ithas done.
It does feel un-American.
We don't like tolling anythingright.
We all hate toll roads.
This being penalized to drivesomewhere it feels like our

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rights are being infringed upon.
But driving is not a right, youknow, I mean it's not, and it's
the benefits I think greatlyoutweigh.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
And again, I know there's a lot of people that
disagree with me, and that'stotally fine, you know it's.
I do think something like thisneeds to be voted on.
It's a big change.
It shouldn't just be mandatedby God or our politician.
It should be something thatpeople agree on.
But it is.
I have seen it very effectivelydone and people love it.

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They hate it at first and givethem five years and they're like
we don't ever want to go back.
That's why I'm kind of I'm verycurious to see what's going to
happen as of right this second.
March 21st they'll have to quit, but that's three weeks from
now.
A lot can change in that littlebit of time and we will be
watching this over the next fewepisodes and keeping everybody
up to date on the changes andthe punches as they come.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I said you just think the crime.
People just don't want to payfor the tolls.
I was being jokey.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh, I can see that.
Well, they do say I can't havethat charge.
Well, they talk about how partof the part of the arrest
because there's a huge rise inarrests have been.
They talk about fare evasion,spikes on turnstiles.
So you do have people that arejumping.
That's just people jumpingturnstiles.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
So they don't want to pay the fare.
So the city's cracking down onthat and going no, no, no, if
you're going to use our subwayyou've got to pay.
And it's funny One of thepodcasts I listen to the girl
that's on it.
They podcast on New York Cityand she for years always talked
about jumping turnstiles and howher and her partner would do it
and everything.
And then she got busted for itand spent a night or two it.

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And then she got busted for itand spent a night or two it
might have been two nights inNew York City jail and after
that she's like never, again.
She was like I will pay my farefrom here on out.
It was not worth it.
So I mean, you know, I do thinkwe have a ridiculous number of
arrests, and so when you hearabout a higher percentage of
arrests, sometimes it's like ooh, but if it's not petty crime

(09:45):
and it's like which I guess thatis, but if it's not something,
that's like ridiculous and andyou do see major crime coming
down yeah, that number waspretty big yeah, feels like it's
.
It's helping.
Uh, jerry, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I was just thinking about the, the crime part of it.
I mean that's a good way tocatch people, if you think about
it, because I think mostthey're doing the easy pass for
pay in.
I mean that's registered to avehicle, it's easy to track.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Absolutely.
So, yeah, and you catch peoplewith plates because there's more
cameras now.
With that no.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Well, that's a whole thing too, with the ghost plates
issue they're having on bridgesin New York.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's a whole different story.
I watched the Instagram reelthe other day and they were
showing a car that had a.
It looks like a little shade.
You would pull down over awindow that just kind of came
down.
They go through the tollway.
You see the lights go off to tryto capture the plate.
There's a plate there becauseit's been covered.

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They get a little ways down thelights go off to try to capture
the plate.
There's a plate there becauseit's been covered.
They get a little ways down theroad and it just scrolls right
back up.
So if a cop pulls them over,they've got a plate right there.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
I don't know what you're talking about Wow, yeah,
but that's the all-time.
People are.
People are just Any way to.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I've often wondered on our trucks.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
You're not doing that ?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
No, no, no, no, no, no that would save us a ton of
money.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
but no, I was thinking.
Patrick ain't going to jail ifyou save a few dollars.
No, what I was going to say wasis often, whenever I was
driving over the road, I used tothink to myself, like whenever
you go through there and ittakes that picture because our
license plates are on the backand usually there's an overhang
from the back of the box I usedto always wonder does it
actually capture that licenseplate?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
It does oh okay.
That is a valid question.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I like that.
It is a very valid question.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
As those of us that collect Ask me and the carrier,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
So sometimes because we have toll transponders in all
the trucks but they don'talways work.
Sometimes, so sometimes becausewe have toll transponders in
all the trucks but they don'talways work.
Sometimes they break and, yes,we get those toll violations all
the time.
Good to know.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Very effective.
What are you guilty of Speakingof?

Speaker 4 (11:58):
that I'm not guilty of nothing, can I?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
follow upup question Is there legal building of a
vehicle, a CMV vehicle, of whereyou can place the plate for
those type of machines that arecapturing our plate?
Does that make sense?
Are there rules to like whereyou can?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
So the rules are kind of vague, like tractors that
are apportioned have to be downon the front, buses and straight
trucks that are apportionedhave to be on the back, which is
why sometimes we even havedrivers call us and go hey, got
pulled over, did a roadside,walked around the truck.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
In Texas, state of Texas, oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Said that our tag has to be on the very front or says
that we should have two tags.
Both of those are common thingswe get.
But according to Patrick and Ihave had that personally
Maryland, Maryland yeah, butaccording to IRP, straight
trucks have to go on the back.
But there's not a lot ofindustries that IRP a straight

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truck.
They don't have to use aportion of plates, like, if you
are a I'm trying to think like adelivery like you deliver
frozen pizza around Columbus,ohio you're not buying a portion
plates because you're onlygoing to be here, sure, so
you're just getting a regularcommercial tag.
So most straight trucks arecommercial plated vehicles.

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They're not apportioned.
Apportion is where they takeyour registration fees for the
year and they spread them outacross whatever states you tell
them that you're going to bedriving through.
And by doing that, in moststates not all, but in most
states you don't have to havespecial permits to drive through
those areas.
If I had a route that was likegoing Detroit to Laredo, then I

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could get just Texas.
How would I go that way?
okay, texas, missouri, oklahoma,um, into illinois, and then
indiana, right then michigan,yeah, so I could literally just
get those states on my portion Isee now we apportion for all
the states and, uh, the southernprovinces of canada, because

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our trucks run well, not all thestates and the southern
provinces of Canada, because ourtrucks run Well, not all the
states.
We don't apportion for Alaskaor for Hawaii, but we do
apportion for all those so thatour trucks can run all those
with no issues.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I think my question is because it's piggybacking on
what Jerry was saying is thatthe license plate on our trucks
is tucked up and under.
Jerry was saying is that thatlicense plate on our trucks is
tucked up and under, so arethere rules or guidelines saying
that it has to be right on theback, which obviously ours
aren't, or like?
Are there guidelines as far asplacement placement of, because

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to me it seems I I want to usethe word hidden, but I know
that's not, not in a nefar.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
It is just where it is on all of the trucks that
Highfield has.
But I get what Jerry's sayingis you always wonder can the
camera capture it?
So that's where my question isAre there rules when you build a
vehicle where that licenseplate needs to be placarded on
that backside?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
So two things.
One is the stuff that I've readonline.
I've never found anything morethan it has to be in the back
and conspicuous.
Conspicuous is what keeps youfrom being able to put that film
over it or do anything.
It has to be able to be visibleat all times.
It also keeps you from hiding itbehind something.
Secondly, all of our licenseplates holders actually come

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from the factory, not fromFreightliner but from the
liftgate manufacturer, andthey're already predetermined by
that liftgate manufacturer.
So I'm assuming that thatliftgate manufacturer has gone
to the DOT and said you knowwhere does that need to be?
And that's where they determinewhere they place it on the back
of the truck.

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So, if you look at differentbrands and different models, you
can have a license plate deadcenter.
It could be off to the right,it could be off to the left.
They do move them around butthey're never all the way
forward.
They're always like keptsomewhere conspicuously where
you can see it.
So I'm assuming they're goingby the rules and they're seeing
and they know, like when theirlift gate's folded up it's

(16:09):
probably, you know, two foot orthree foot from the back of the
truck and maybe there are rulesabout how far it can be or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, interesting, I've never really thought about
it.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, I've not either .
That's an interesting point,jerry.
The only thing I've ever reallyheard about is just people
getting in trouble quote-unquotefor not having it on the front
of their truck.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, I've had that happen in Texas, for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
We ran them on the front for a long time.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
So Louisiana, where we used to— yeah, when we first
started we thought we were doingsomething wrong.
When those particular statessaid it's on the wrong side and
in the state of Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
On their apportioned plates they used to say all
apportioned vehicles, it goes onthe front, except for buses.
So they never said they neverbroke straight trucks out of
separate.
Since then we no longerapportion out of Louisiana and
even before we could quitapportioning out of Louisiana
they did change the rules towhere it said it actually

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outlined straight trucks insteadon the back of the vehicle.
So that's law.
You know the problem withknowing that, because we've had
some people who talk about like,oh, we put in the permit binder
, here's the ruling or whateveris.
None of us want to be on theside of the road with a piece of
paper saying look, cop, thispaper says this, because now

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you're just going to get a levelone inspection for help,
Because now you're a sovereigncitizen and you're telling them
that they can't arrest you.
Yeah, this is the time to youknow.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I'm so sorry.
I'll tell the owner of thetruck.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I know this is going to be a silly question the owner
of the truck.
I know this is going to be asilly question because no way
station in any state or state tostate is the same.
They're all so different.
But why isn't where thatlicense plate goes just
universal for all the states?
I know probably a rhetoricalquestion.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
For the IRP.
It is where it goes, ismandated by the IRP, which is an
attractor, gets to go up fronton a bus or a straight truck in
the back.
That is part of theapportionment.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
It says the back of the truck is okay.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
Yes, for that type of truck, straight trucks and
buses.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
How come some states panic?
Are they running on different?

Speaker 6 (18:26):
rules Because you have inspectors that aren't
familiar with straight trucks.
That's newbies.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
They aren't educated.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
They think they all should be in the front.
And plus, those inspectors areusually watching video monitors
of trucks pulling into the weighstation.
And a truck pulls in with noplate in the front and they're
lighting you up to stop or comearound the back, sure, and then
that's like when you're in yourcase.
That's what happened to me,that's what happened to you.
You got pulled in and theylooked and said, oh, you're in a

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.
They had the camera in the backwhere you were parked.
They saw your truck andrealized duh, it's a straight
truck, move along.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I mean, I still had to provide everything.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Sure, they did a very they may as well do all that
right.
Yeah, while they got you Checkthat one off the list for the
day.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I had that happen.
We were getting they were doingit in Louisiana.
They were pulling everybodyover in the weigh station but
they weren't checking just forweight, they were actually
checking fuel and some otherstuff and they were waving
people and there was several ofthem out there working and this
one guy saw me in.
In hindsight I realized he wastrying to tell me to wave on and
I was like I had my window.
I was like I'm sorry what?

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And he was like yeah, no, justgo, go in.
Like he was mad, he's having aday.
And so I was like okay, so I'llgo park, grab all my stuff,
everything, I go inside and, uh,give him all the like, just set
it down in front of him andopen it up.
And he's like you're in thestraight truck, are you in the

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FedEx truck?
And I was like yes, sir, he'slike just try to pay attention
to what I tell you next time.
He's like but you're good to go, didn't even look at my
paperwork.
And I was like okay, yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
You didn't come with an LED sign.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I didn't close the book gently or quickly.
I closed it gently and walkedout very calmly.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
But inside you're doing the happy dance.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Inside I'm scared to death.
He's going to be like you knowwhat.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, never mind.
Level three Level three.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Level one let's do something.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
It was Don that got pulled over in Texas when we
were driving, and normally I'mexactly the same way, but for
some reason I was in the sleeperand I was just having a day, I
guess, and I was tired.
And whenever he got pulled over, as soon as I heard the officer
telling him well, I stopped youbecause you don't have a plate,
I come up out of that sleeperand I threw that curtain open
and I argued with him for 10minutes until he went back to

(20:50):
his car, and he was in his carfor about another 10 minutes and
then he come back and he's likewell, I'm going to let you go
this time.
No bull crap.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
You went back there, ready to go again.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You found out that I'm correct and now you're just
trying to play it off.
Yeah, we placed that thing inthe sheet in the permit binder
having to do with the plates, sodrivers would read that and
possibly speak to the inspectorswith a little more knowledge on
what was going on.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
But it doesn't work sometimes you just got to be so
delicate.
You do, you really do.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know more than the inspector, but you got to
listen to them, it's also thatthing of.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I have a sheet of paper that you handed me.
How real is it?

Speaker 6 (21:34):
How fraudulent is it Right exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
You could have typed this up yourself, Absolutely the
only way to know is to actuallygo back there, grab your green
book, scroll through it.
You know 8,000 pages of ituntil you find that one about
With three different pairs ofreading glasses on.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
So you didn't give us a letter that was notarized so
that it would be official.
It wouldn't matter if it wasnotarized.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
They don't know who Judge Judy.
Judy is.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, they do.
They know, Judge Judy.
How about Wapner?
Most of them probably aren'told enough for Wapner.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Can we get notarized by?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
governor or whatever.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Who's Judge, harvey?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Oh no, that's great.
So excellent question.
Jerry, appreciate that.
Look forward to seeing whathappens in New York City, me too
.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I'm excited more for the crime rate.
I mean granted their money,their monetary.
That's good too, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, I mean, it's a super high-tax city, so I can
certainly see why people wouldbe like, oh, more money, more
taxes, or whatever.
But as someone who goes to NewYork City a couple times a year
and actually utilizes theirpublic transit, it could use
some love.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
So how fast do you think they're going to utilize
that $49 million?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
It's already gone.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
They had the money allocated before they even got
it, so it means they've gotpeople starting repairs and
whatever I would be willing tobet, like you said.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Like Zuccanibret said , they've already figured out
they're going to be taking thismoney in and they started
working even without it, yep,which is why you had cops on the
subway and all that ahead oftime, right so?
but those infrastructureprojects take forever to get
done.
I mean, you know it's not goingto be a quick process, just

(23:22):
like they're trying to redo theQBE.
Eric and I watched a video onthe QBE, which is the
Queens-Bronx Expressway.
I watched that video.
That's crazy.
So the QBE is something likeEric and I have driven it.
We drove it several years agoand ever since driving it I've
been fascinated by it, becauseit's such a weird road.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Closest thing to that is like in Austin.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
The two-level interstate in Austin.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yes, but here's the difference.
Okay, if you're in the QBExpressway, you may have seen it
on TV and not known that it'swhat you were looking at.
It's basically in Queens there,or is it the wrong?
Yeah, it's Brooklyn.
Is it Queens?
It's the Queens section.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Quizzing me now to see if I actually watched the
video.
I am, yes, I think it's theQueens section.
It's the Queens section.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
There's a section where it's on a bluff or a cliff
, if you would, yeah, andinstead of running the
expressway Six Lane Expresswaythrough the flatland where
houses and businesses are, theyactually came up with a really
kind of genius solution.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
I think it is, or was it?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
was.
I'm not a huge fan of theperson who came up with it,
robert Moses.
He did a lot of great thingsbut he did a lot of horrible
things, but it was his idea, andso what they did was at the
bottom of the cliff you've got aroad like a local area road,
just for local traffic, right.
Then, if you go up a level,there is a road that sticks out

(24:55):
like cantilever off the cliff.
So it's over the other road butit's just shooting out.
There's no support on the farend and it kind of just hugs the
cliff.
And then there's one more aboveit.
So you've got traffic going onedirection on one bridge that's
sticking out Three lanes oftraffic on the other one above

(25:16):
it going the opposite direction,and then above that they did
one more level that is just aboardwalk.
So it's like it looks like alayered cake of bridges that
only connect on one side.
On the left side of the road itconnects to the wall of the
side.
On the left side of the roadit's connected to the wall of
the cliff.
On the right side it's wideopen to overlooking the city.

(25:37):
So it's very unique.
Actually, you know what?
Here's a picture of it.
That's kind of cool right.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
It is kind of cool.
It's very cool.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
The problem is it's just old.
It's been there since the early40s.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I would think that they maintain it or go out and
see if it's structurally sound,so they try to.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
The problem is it's concrete and rebar Salt water,
because they salt the roads andthen when that snow melts, it's
gotten to the cracks of theconcrete over the years and it's
gotten to that rebar and it'sresting the rebar, so the bridge
is resting from the inside.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
But no devastating accidents have happened yet,
like parts of the road fallingdown.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
They maintain it as much as they can Trying to
repair.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
that is like closing down part of the George
Washington Bridge.
Yeah, Can you imagine whatthat's like down part of the
George Washington Bridge?

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Can you imagine what that's like they want to replace
?

Speaker 6 (26:35):
it and they have a couple options for replacing it,
but they're expensive and someof them just aren't feasible
because of where it's at, andyou know it's six lanes of
traffic.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
It's a lot to shut down.
Where would that reroute to?

Speaker 6 (26:48):
That's exactly it.
They have no way.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
They have no way to reroute it.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, it's devastating.
It'd be devastating regardlessof what they do.
So, now they're trying tofigure out what they're going to
do with this, because you'vegot an infrastructure that's
literally crumbling and theywere talking about.
I think the thing they're goingto do is going to have it shut
down for like 20 years orsomething.
It's insane how long it's goingto take to get this thing.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
That's when you quit your job and either work
remotely or find something locallike literally down the block.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Yes or move.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
It's also the kind of project that you get hired on
the QBE we're going to rebuildthis bridge or this highway
project and you can actuallywork on that your entire career
and then retire.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
Start as an apprentice.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yes, day one apprentice, a day one apprentice
.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
And work your entire career on that one project, on
that one project, and thenretire.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Like it's nuts how long and how expensive it's
going to be.
So I mean, that's a drasticexample of an infrastructure
project in the middle of NewYork City and it's 3.8 miles
long, something like that.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
The section that's a problem.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
It's not even that long Still, if it's not there.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Three New York miles.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I think the whole thing is 3.8 miles.
That section is only 1.5 miles.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Wow, but you think about the subway.
How much bigger is it?
Right and it's got the sameissues.
It's going right through theheart of everything.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
I'm actually reading an article on BQE Vision.
The 1.5-mile section of the BQEthey're talking about includes
multiple bridge structures,including the historic .4 mile
long triple cantilever.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Okay, so half mile.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Yeah, I only know about the.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
BQE from Quick Change , one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
It's a great video to watch.
If you're interested ininfrastructure and
transportation, it's a prettycool video to watch.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Again, having driven this, it's kind of cool.
It's really cool seeing itBecause I remember like being on
it.
I don't even think I wasdriving.
I'm pretty sure Eric wasdriving.
I was sitting in the passengerseat and just riding through and
it's like wait what?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Hold on.
I think I've been on that.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
What's going on here?
It's like this is odd I don'treally, because you see it like
split out, it's like what?
It's kind of the same thing aslike if you've ever driven over
the Verrazano Narrows Bridge.
It does the same thing where itlike splits traffic up and then
brings it back together andstuff.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
It's just Well downtown, los Angeles, the 110
freeway going north of downtowninto Pasadena.
Trucks aren't allowed there, soif you're in a truck you
wouldn't see it.
But the roadway there's amountain and there's tunnels.
So the roadway actually goesthrough tunnels, but the
southbound traffic goes abovethe northbound traffic.

(29:50):
You don't see it unless you'rereally paying attention to it or
unless you just like that kindof stuff.
But yeah, they built tunnels ontop of each other to make it
through that narrow area on themountain.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
They did the same thing on the Oakland Bridge
right the 580 actually wasdouble-decker.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
It's not any longer after it collapsed during the
earthquake in 88.
I forget when the earthquakewas.
It collapsed during thatearthquake and it's no longer a
double-decker in that area.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Cool.
I'd like to see, like, not juston this bridge, but going back
to the original opening, youknow article, I'd like to see
some kind of a long-termdocumentary on it.
You know of how it's affected,whatever it's affected.
So especially like on the NewYork on it, you know of how it's
affected, whatever it'saffected.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Oh, yeah, so especially like on the New York
City.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Tax.
You know how's it affecting lawenforcement, how's it affecting
your businessman or your artspeople who are, you know,
probably living modestly butthey're going and performing
every night downtown.
I think those would be somereally fun things to follow.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
There's actually a little known website that you
might be able to findinformation like that on over
time, right, Maybe not much onthere right now, but videos and
stuff on that type of thing.
It's YouTube Y-O-U-T-U-B-Ecom.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Thank you.
If you go there, that's theYouTube right.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
I have a bookmark.
I haven't typed it in a longtime, so it might be the YouTube
.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
It's a small website.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
It's not very big.
We haven't gotten used tolooking there.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, you know I prefer I go to Googlecom, okay
right.
And I go to put my search inthere and then I press videos
Interesting I search in there,and then I press videos
Interesting yes, interesting.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
I just did that with images, so I didn't think about
doing it with videos.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's interesting.
I just think it would be fun tosee.
I know you're teasing me, but Ithink it would be really cool
to see how whatever has changed.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
There's some really good ones on Paris and London,
and I think Amsterdam is anotherone that has it.
I've only been to Amsterdam'sairport.
I've never been to the actualcity.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
I've been around Amsterdam, but we never drove,
so we just came in by train.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
That's because you hired a limousine to pick you up
.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
In my other life.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
It's nice when that Mercedes S-Class pulls up and
it's like can I get this bag foryou, ma'am?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think what happens is, all these big cities have
not changed anything.
They're built on old.
At this point, Sure.
And how do you now upgradethings when you're overpopulated
in your areas?
There's nowhere to grow for alot of population right.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
I mean, if you think about the BQE, there's
congestion all around it.
They can't go wider.
The reason they did thecantilever in the first place
was they had congestion.
We know when a new freeway getsbuilt they're either buying up
the homes that are in the way orin a domain or they're going
out further, and then by thetime those freeways are built

(32:52):
they're out of date and theircongestion on them is too much
because it takes so long tobuild them.
So it's just the infrastructurethat we use currently just
doesn't work as well as we'dlike it to, and what they're
finding is mass transit reallyis the way to go.
Unfortunately, if you go masstransit, you have to do kind of

(33:13):
a similar thing of finding rightof ways for trains if they're
above ground, or boring tunnelswhich cost a lot of money.
So there isn't a whole lot ofinvestment in the smaller,
smaller cities as there is inthe big cities, where that's the
only option they have.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
You know, it's one of those things where, like well,
none of us have the money to, asthere is in the big cities
where that's the only optionthey have.
It's one of those things wherenone of us have the money to
re-roof our house because it'ssuch an incredible amount of
expense.
But when you have to, somehowyou figure it out.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
You saw a lot of plasma.
You saw a lot of plasma.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
The city.
Right now they've got to sell alot of plasma.
The big cities.
The thing I like about them isthey have so much power
financially, mentally,politically that they are able
to get some really cool stuffaccomplished.
But I mean, you look at, likeChicago, you know we talk about
like there's not enough roomDowntown Chicago.

(34:09):
They got to a problem onWackeracker street I think it is
, where it was, just so muchcongestion.
It's such an issue, whateverthey just said, to heck with it.
We're building a whole newstreet, one floor up, I'm not
kidding, and they literallybuilt and decked out the entire

(34:29):
top.
Uh, built a whole new bridgesystem, basically for the entire
street in downtown Chicago.
So when you're on that streetand you're walking around, you
don't even realize you're on abridge.
There's actually like all thesebuildings had to go in and
build new entrances.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
All the stuff to them and you can go down to lower.
Lower is where all the loadingdocks are.
It's where the trucks gothrough and everything.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
We delivered down somewhere there.
Yeah, that sounds very familiar.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
It's a very creative solution Now it's incredibly
expensive, very easily lost.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, which creates a really good industrial level to
the same buildings.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Yeah, because we'd be like driving here and we're
like wait, we're supposed to beover, like yes, yeah, and you do
see, like again, this is aRobert Moses project.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
You do see a lot of his projects that didn't age
well In Boston, the whole bigdig yeah, I believe that was
originally a Robert Mosesproject where he put that
interstate system going rightthrough the heart of Boston.
A lot of your major cities thathave interstates going right
through the middle of them orright along the edge, a lot of

(35:36):
those are either Robert Mosesdesigned or one of his people
buying into his philosophy.
Today we recognize it's aterrible idea.
You cut your population centersin half.
You end up with that wrong sideof the road or tracks, the good
side of the road or tracksbusiness.
You displace families, youuproot communities.
A lot of people have recognizedthat's a very bad way of doing

(36:00):
it.
But for a long time, maybe fromthe 20s until the 50s, that was
standard operating procedure,which is why so many cities have
that.
If you look at even New YorkCity from the Cross Bronx
Expressway, which we've all beenon, we all know that one very,
very well right, jerry?
Yeah, the 95 right through NewYork City.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Go over the George Washington.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
The bridge.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Go over the GWB, sit in traffic for two and a half
hours, go six miles and you'rein Connecticut.
That section's Cross BronxExpressway From there on either
side of Manhattan is twointerstates.
I guess one's an interstate,one's a highway, but it's like a
six-lane highway so it might aswell be an interstate.
That's his idea.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
So you take all that beautiful— FDR Drive.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, the FDR.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Follows the entire coast of Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, so you know prime real estate on the water.
We have an interstate, Likewhat a stupid idea that was, but
that was.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
He wanted you to have a pretty drive.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, that's what his philosophy was back then, and
everybody nowadays is like no,you could do anything else but
that.
Like that could be parkland,that could be homes, that could
be all kinds of stuff.
Yeah, so a lot of his projectswe're seeing are getting fixed,
and this was, unfortunately,another one of them.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I just don't think maybe they knew any better until
they knew better.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
They didn't they also .
I mean, you got to think abouta Model.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
A Model T.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Model A was the truck they were working with back
then.
In that video we were talkingabout earlier.

Speaker 6 (37:34):
they actually showed you know what trucks looked like
when the QBE was built, whatthey look like now and it's like
yeah, they were just short ofbeing pulled by horses back then
.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
They basically were the weight of vehicles has
changed too.
The weight's changed.
Yeah, you've was a wholedifferent thing.
Vehicles has changed too.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
since then, the weight's changed yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
So, you've got a lot more wear and tear physically,
just besides the nature.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
And quantity.
There's so much more trafficthan there used to be.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
In one of the videos Patrick and I were watching,
they talked about carrierstrying to overload their trucks
to get away with overweight fees.
Yeah, and how they're using.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
they have weigh-in motion, not at a weigh station,
but they have weigh-in motion inthe city, because carriers are
paying more to get vehicles intotrucks into the city, so
they're overloading them so theycan get more cargo on them and
that's damaging the roads aswell.
But they now have weigh-inmotion so they can try and catch
those things.
That was a very interestingvideo.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
It was and I thought about like what are you hauling
heavy into the city?
Like you're not.
Everything they're not bringingconcrete mixers into the city.
So much, there's a lot ofexemptions.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
But they are.
I mean because they're doingbig projects, but they're not
doing it like in Texas.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
But then I got thinking about it.
So this guy I know used to workfor a flour mill company in
Baton Rouge and they would takewheat and turn it into flour
Very cool process, I learned allabout it.
And he talked about how at thebeginning of the day they would
make a run out to Lafayette,louisiana, and there is a weigh

(39:14):
station between Baton Rouge andLafayette.
The first truck went out even,and then they would report back
if that weigh station was open.
And if it was closed they didn't, because those tankers that
they haul the flour in, becausethey're huge tanker trucks,
they're not bags of flour,they're giant bulk tankers.
Like when they're two-thirdsfull.

(39:36):
That's about the amount ofweight they can handle, but if
you're not worried about weight,fill them up, fill them up to
the roof.
Yeah, and run it out there, geta lot more product each turn.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
We carried a load of canned goods in Louisiana,
actually from a fooddistribution warehouse, a
grocery store distributionwarehouse, and we took it to a
food bank.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
And the truck was donated by Panther.
We got paid, don't get me wrong.
The truck Panther's part of itwas donated, yes, and they're
loading us up and I'm like, wait, canned food is heavy.
It's heavy was donated, yes,and they're loading us up and
I'm like, oh wait, canned foodis heavy.
It's heavy.
You got to slow your rollbecause we can't carry as much

(40:20):
as the 53 footers.
Yeah, it was so we had to slowthem down and stop them from
trying to stuff as much as theycould in our truck.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Oh yeah, Because it was donated.
Food too, it was donated food.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
We got to the food bank.
We could use our lift gate, butunfortunately the weight of the
pallet was too heavy, soMelissa and I had to get up
there.
We had helpers at the food bank.
We had volunteers, so they werehelping us unload and carry
stuff in.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
There's probably 30 people there.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
Until we could get it light enough to use the lift
gate to pull it down.
I said I won't tell the rest ofit.
But I'll tell you when we'redone with the video.
No, we broke a lot of stuffdown.
We broke it all down andgathered out the trunk and it
didn't seem like very much wasgoing down on the lift gate but
like maybe Half of the palletand you know you're like and

(41:09):
that's all that she's going totake, and then you know we would
pull it off.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
And then they were actually doing hand carts.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
So then they were taking it off the pallet putting
on hand carts to take it intheir building.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
It was very rewarding .
It was very humbling.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
It was just a great experience all around.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
But woo-wee A lot of time.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, it was a lot of time.
Well, a lot of stuff's heavylike that you don't think about.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
You don't?
Kangas are very heavy.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Eric and I did a print shop load one time and it
was like four pallets not a lot.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Of paper, of paper, oh we've done that.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Woo-wee, that was heavy, that was another one we
got Liftgate Two instances.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
The one you're talking about was the pamphlets
that went down to Florida.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yes, we get down to Florida and the guy's like all
right, you can just unload themover here.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
And we're like no, we can't.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
That's before we knew .

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I could get more money for that Good unload by
him, the entire truck.
Yes, now, thankfully they didactually cart them away.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
And I will say this it was a good paying load, sure,
regardless, but yeah, it was.
We were in so much pain afterthat I was like we're getting a
hotel South Florida.
Parking is a pain anyways,let's get a hotel.
We can park the truck at thehotel and get some sleep.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Take a mini vacay.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
Yeah, all right.
Well, I'll tell the rest of mystory now.
Then, since you guys coveredthat, melissa and I looked at
each other because we didn't getpaid for a hand unload on that
load.
We looked at each other andwe're like we need to get paid
for a hand unload.
And then we thought about itand we go we're getting paid
pretty damn good for this it'sgoing to a charity.
So no, we won't do that.
We did get paid very well for a50-mile load yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Well, those low mile loads always do good, they
always do good we went campingafterwards.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
We did do camping afterwards.
Yes, we did.
You took a little mini weekend.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
It was like a holiday inn or something Exactly.
Oh, no, no, we went to, werented a car west we go.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
West, we go yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Oh, I remember that trip.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
It.
Oh, I remember that trip.
It was so much fun he keptsending us pictures of food from
back home.
It's like three things, yeah,he enjoyed this trip Airboat, it
was good.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
We did the airboat tour.
Yeah, oh, we can go back downthere.
I haven't been to Louisiana inso long.
I know it's been too long Way,too long Way too long.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Now's the best time, you haven.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
Well, I don't know about that.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
I find that North Louisiana doesn't know about
that.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Ash Wednesday is a lovely time to be in.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
It is.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Well, melissa, I saw that article about your parking
company.
I know the truck parking clubyes.
Well, first give a littlebackstory on it.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Well, I was thinking about this.
It was what Two years ago, nowThree years ago.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Three years ago.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
We were at Matt's and I had walked by their booth.
They caught my attention,listened to their spiel about
what they were doing and theywere just a baby company at the
time, providing truck parking atprivate entities.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Super nice people, very nice.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Oh my gosh, they were just amazing people.
But I know I saw a vision.
I don't know if anybody elsedid, because there is a need for
truck parking.
We all know that and you knowthey're drumming up vacant lots
and private properties and thenthey've got an app and they're
providing all the details about.
You know what that parkingprovides Trash light services

(44:41):
security whatever.
I mean you can dial it right inthey got.
His name is Hudo and he is.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
They stole him.
I know they stole him, no, butthey look, know they stole him.
They poached him.
They looked like they werefriends.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, but I saw somewhere where he mentioned
that they were good friends andended up getting somebody from
Truck Stop.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yes, not like your local Truck Stop.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
So truckstopcom, basically fromwhat I understand, is a load
board.
It's a fancy, fancy load boardand they do fleet management.
I don't know freight managementand things like that as well,
but it's just a really nice loadboard.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
I see a lot of people comparing them to DAT but
they're just like more Well,they're not strictly a load
board, though.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, they're more advanced, right, more advanced
yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
They work on behalf of carriers, brokers.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Truck drivers Truck drivers as well, you know.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Sure All around Like a load board.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Truck parking club.
They stole him, they stole.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Mr Brent, they poached, poached, poached.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Brent Pudo.
He's got decades of theexperience.
Did you see that he worked fora short time at Randall Riley?
I did.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Which is a parent company of Overdrive.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
Yes, where the article was from.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yep.
He's widely recognized for hiswork in developing solutions to
critical industry challenges,including the truck parking
crisis, so I'm excited.
You know, I was reading howmany they're up to and I thought
it was like 1,400 locations.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
They were not at 1,400 locations three years ago,
they weren't, and actually Iremember when we met them being
like, oh, this isn't going towork.
I remember that we were at theshow.
Panther had a booth and theyhad one of our trucks in it and
they invited us hey, since yourtruck's going to be in the booth
, bring your crew down, hang outwith us.
You, hey, since your truck'sgonna be in the booth, bring

(46:35):
your crew down, hang out with us.
You can tell people about yourcompany and we'll talk about our
company and how we kind of worktogether, that sort of thing.
So we did, we brought a wholecrew down and we kind of took
shifts.
Uh, certain people would bemanning the booth and the rest
of the time we could kind of goand walk the show, because it's
a really cool show to go to andsee.
So you had actually gone outand walked it.
While I was talking to, someother people and I remember
Butter Monkey were like I got toshow you all this one booth.
Yep, because we're going tohead over to the ARI booth.

(46:57):
And you're like I want to showyou this one booth.
It's very interesting, notthese 15 booths, I found Right
this one booth.
This one booth and it was thesepeople and talking with them and
the way they work with driversand all this stuff, and they
give us some information to tellto our people and I'm pretty
sure we report it back.
And if you go back three yearsI think you'll find we talk
about it.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
We did On the show.
On the show, yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
What they were doing then was, they said, building
from the ground up.
So they were really trying tobuild up, getting locations and
working directly with drivers.
Now they are trying to workwith the big major fleets.
Yes, they are, and say hey,your drivers are already using
us.
Why don't you work with us aswell?
Right, and we can help you withyour parking solution needs for

(47:40):
your trucks while they're outon the road.
So it's very cool to see howthey are taking this foundation.
They spent a couple years nowbuilding yeah.
A few years now building andthey are trying to scale it and
build it bigger, which I'm sureis why it's like yep, we've got
to tap some people.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
Well, they've got so many more locations down than
they used to have.
Yes, I recall when we talked tothem this was the March before
Highfield at Sea, which was thefollowing January, and we were
asking about what they had inthe Orlando Florida area.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yes, because people are going to need to park.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
People need to park and they didn't have anything
down there.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
No, they did in like Miami, but not in Orlando.

Speaker 6 (48:16):
Yeah, but not in Orlando, if you look now they've
got, and if you look nationwide, they kind of showed us their
map of where they had vendors atthe time and it was very few.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
It might have been 200, 200.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
Nothing really on the West Coast.
And now that map is just, it'sgrown.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I'm curious are any of Highfield's contractors using
the truck parking.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
How do you find it?
Is it an app?
It's an app.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
You can find them at truckparkingclubcom.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
They have an app.
My recent trip through Georgia,I actually seen numerous
billboards with their signageall over, really yeah that's
awesome in southern georgia cool, that's awesome, very cool.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Well, and if you have used their places, where I want
to know what kind of parkingyou're parking at.
Is it, I wouldn't say a field,but like, is it in the middle of
farmland?
Is it a defunct walmart?
You know where are you parking?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
because, there's.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
There was one in illinois that we would park at.
It was a closed down walmart.
They, you could tell they shutit down, sam's club, it was
something, and then.
But we could talk back there.
Other trucks were parking thereas well.
We We've done it in Texas, nope, louisville.
We've parked in one inLouisville right across from a
Cracker Barrel.

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It was a defunct, big, hugemall and it had gone out of
business and other trucks wereparking there.
So just curious, where are youparking with this truck parking
club?

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah, I'm looking at their map right now.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
I am too.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
And there's all over the place.
They have some parking and someare free parking.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Is it Okay?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I think it ranges, you know, because one of the
things in their article aboutgoing directly to companies and
saying, look, your drivers arealready doing this, is they're
trying to set up where thecompany puts in, let's say,
$1,000 into a fund and thentheir drivers can say I work for
this company and I want to parkhere, and then they can charge

(50:20):
it or bill it to the company.
Because the drivers were havinga hard time getting reimbursed
for the expenses of using truckparking if they needed it.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Okay, so I'm scrolling through their app
right now.
So professional doing theresearch mid-show.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Jerry, this is pretty slick, so they've got like.
They'll show a.
You type in where you want topark and they will pull up an
earth view.
What do they call that Like?
A satellite view of a piece ofproperty and then they they will
put a green area and say thisis the place where you can park.

(50:57):
Here's how many spaces areavailable.
Here's how much it costs per day, per week, per month, and then
you can book right there.
It's a hotel just off your appand that's really cool.
They also do show you, likeEric was just saying, they do
show where free parking is.
So if you are actually going tobe in an area that has free
parking like this, right here Imean, it says rest area, highway

(51:20):
marker 177.
It has a number.
I wonder does the number meanthe number of spaces it has
available?
It couldn't be that accurate.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
But it does.
No, it doesn't.
I think it might be thataccurate.
Well, actually, I'm looking onthe website and it shows me the
space here in Columbus that hasnine spots available and just on
the map itself, on thesatellite view, it gives a green
block of where you need to park.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
So this number in the blue is the number of spaces
available, because like.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Here's one that says low availability, Is that with
the free parking?
That's the free parking.
That must mean people havebooked it.
So if you're going to Well this, is free parking.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
There is no booking.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
There's no booking.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
But it just tells you how many people are sitting in
that area right now.
Huh, that is slick.
I want to go back on the road.
This is really cool, sorry.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
I didn't mean to.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Like this one is low availability 5 availability.
37 availability.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
I wonder how they're tracking that, are they maybe,
even though it's free?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
They've got to be working with the city or with
the DOT, or do you think it'sfrom people?

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I was just going to say.
Even though it's free, they maystill require you to book a
spot, so that way they know howmany are available.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
No, they don't even give you the ability to.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Not on a free one.
Not a free one.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I'm looking at the closest one to the pilot, our.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Flying.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
J in Columbus, there's one of these locations
just south, on the highway fromthere.
I'm looking at it and it'ssaying no spaces available, live
data.
And then it gives you pricesper day, per week, per month.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
But you don't want that.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
Right per month.
But you know what, right theability to book it.
Now They've only got two spacesthere at that spot.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
You say you see what I'm looking at.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
I do, yeah, and that could be nothing available
tonight.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Well, I do like too.
They talk about like.
I just randomly pulled one up.
They said they could dobobtails and up to a 26-foot box
truck.
So it wouldn't work for atractor trailer, but if you're
bobtailing it would 24-7 access.
It's a lit area.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
I know right where this place is.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
It's a lit up area.
They have food and restaurantsin the area.
Uber, lyft and taxi isavailable.

Speaker 6 (53:26):
That's a good message too.
That's a good message.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
They have cameras, uber Eats, doordash and Grubhub
in the area, a hotel close byand it is parking on gravel.
So they tell you that muchinformation.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
That's awesome yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
So if it's rainy, maybe you don't want to park on
gravel.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Gravel's better than mud.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
True, but then you can make that decision of how
heavy you are.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, it's still not the greatest so you know I was
thinking about, like how do theyknow with these free spaces
where they are?
I just drove back from Texasand actually quite a few of the
rest areas.
They now have big signs thatwill tell you what's available.
So I guarantee you they'retapping into the DOT feed and
that's how they're able to letpeople know.

(54:09):
But still it's super helpful.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Super helpful, but I mean if they've got live
satellite, because they'reshowing you, even like, where
those empty spaces are in theplaces that have spaces.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
I don't know if they're showing you where the
empty spaces are necessarily, orwhat spaces are reserved for
truck parking club.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
Because I'm looking at the one here just south of us
, here in Columbus Truck ParkingClub.
Oh, okay, Because I'm lookingat the one here just south of us
, here in Columbus.
It's a trucking terminal andthey are saying they have the
map view red arrows showing howto get into the facility and
there's a big thought bubblethat says park.
Here, in the two spotshighlighted green, you should be
lined up with the end of thebuilding in front of you when

(54:50):
you back in so it gives you thatimpression of where that's, and
so there so they've got.
There are businesses that areonly renting out extra spaces.
Yeah, and they want you inspecific spots.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
Yeah, because when I saw was like six spaces here,
five spaces here and ten spaceshere or something.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I almost wonder.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
That's pretty cool, though, because, again, these
are entities, businesses,landowners, whatever you want to
say that.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I saw some like storage lots.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, aren't doing anything with their extra space,
right, so why not profit off ofit?
And you're also providing truckparking, which is a deficit.
I just had an idea.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I did too, so my question was going to be I
wonder how easy it is to turn iton and off?
Yeah, exactly Because like weare still looking for a home in
Columbus area.
We're still trying to find aplace to Not personally.
Not personally, but our homefor the business.
Yeah, so right now we're workingout of a temporary facility.
We're looking for a morepermanent facility.

(55:54):
It's just hard to find.
This is not a veryindustrial-friendly place, so
it's tricky.
But once we get that place Iwonder if it's something where
we can put five spots in Sure.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Because you know I'm going to want to be able to park
50 trucks, but we hardly everhave that many trucks.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Well A, we've never had that many trucks parked.
When it says space is available, I would think you could say
Well, that's my question is canI pop in and tell them like hey,
normally we have 10 available,today we only have 5, because I
need to use 5 for myself.
I wonder if it's that easy toturn on and off.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
We need somebody to take care of it live.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yeah, apparently we ought to.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Pay attention to it the whole time.

Speaker 6 (56:42):
I just felt that.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Three years ago I felt something about their
company and I have watched itgrow.
We've talked about them beforeon a couple of episodes because
they're doing really greatthings.
I hope that they can make itpretty profitable.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Not just for themselves, but for the drivers,
for those that have vacancies,to where they can park.
I mean, it just seems like awin-win.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
And I saw the rates were varied between like $10 and
$25 a day.
So you know, obviously the morepremium space you're in, the
more you're going to pay.
I imagine the South Floridaplaces are expensive.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
But again I don't know if you'd want to use this
on like while you're under aload and you're traveling,
you're doing all that.
But, like vince was saying, youknow where people were
traveling, or trying to getclose to orlando to hop on a
cruise ship and there was, theydidn't have any at the time
something like that.
Or what if I wanted to tuckinto a city and not have to uber
30 minutes to get there or rentup the car?

(57:41):
You know, maybe I can look onhere and see if there was
something more centrally locatedso then I could could either A
walk or my Uber ride would becheaper.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Absolutely, I love that idea.
I think of something like LosAngeles.
Like say I wanted you know,because LA is someplace that
Eric and I would end upfrequently, and we would always
rent a car.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
And the only problem with that is from A at the truck
stop.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
It's a paid parking period so you're already paying,
you're already paying Fromthere to.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
anything we'd want to do is an hour drive, right.
So if I could pay the sameprice or maybe even a little bit
more.

Speaker 6 (58:13):
but be closer and not have that hour drive Sure.
Absolutely Think about it thisway too, and we don't think
about this a lot because wedon't have as many tractors as
we do.
Straight trucks, Sure, but youneed to go somewhere in Columbus
with your and you're driving atractor, pulling a tractor
trailer for us, and we don'thave tractor parking.
I'm sorry, we don't havetrailer parking, Right.

(58:35):
So something like this, theplace we just talked about, if
you can drop a trailer andbobtail somewhere For $15?
You know exactly, you know youcan't.
People do all the time at thepilot they drop their trailer in
the hotel, but you're notsupposed to, and if you get
towed you're screwed.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Now you're at two grand.

Speaker 6 (58:54):
Now you're at a lot of money, so to be able to find
some place like this and drop atrailer is great.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I remember we had a situation a while back where we
had to have one of our tractorsnot too far but a few months ago
and we called one of ourdealerships or one of our
vendors.
They let us park the trailerthere for a couple days, but
even that was like hoo-fah.

Speaker 6 (59:15):
Yeah, exactly, that's a new issue.
It's a new issue.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
We don't take the box off our street trucks?

Speaker 6 (59:20):
No, we don't, they just take it right along with
you.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
They're not our sponsor for today's show, but I
do think they're doing reallygreat things.
Excited to see where theycontinue to go.
And you know just again, 1,400spaces.
I'm excited to see how Mr Hudois going to.
You know, really improve thingsand see where they are.
In a year Is it going to double?

Speaker 2 (59:42):
You know I really like being right.
I'm sure you may have noticedthat by now.
Yeah, I'm sure you may havenoticed that by now.
I don't like being wrong veryoften and a lot of times if I
have a really deep gut feeling,it's right and I'm happy to say
I was wrong about this one.
I mean, like I know, we broughtit back and promoted them.
My gut feeling was like thissounds like a great idea, and

(01:00:03):
then these places are going tosee the pee jugs.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
They're going to see the trash.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
They're going to see the trash they're going to be
like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
No and then this is going to crumble, and it hasn't,
and uh, that's wonderful I'mreally glad this is actually.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
I'm really happy to see them succeed they were super
nice guys.
Yeah, they took the time tohang out and talk with us.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Super nice guys absolutely well in uh.
Along a similar vein, I saw oneother article I wanted to bring
up real quick.
It doesn't really help us herein Ohio but our Georgia friends,
I thought, may want to do thisand it was an investment
opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I thought it was a great investment opportunity
You're committed to it, thoughfor 10 years, 10 years.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Well, to that particular truck parking.
Yes, we have RV parking.
We might could.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
He said he had RV parking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
And we could possibly even put this on.

Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
We possibly could yes , I'm sure there's a spot there
for this particular situation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
So Cleveland, georgia , which is in the mountains of
Georgia, northeast.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
It's a beautiful area .

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Gorgeous city.
It's right down the street fromHelen Georgia, which is the
Alpine Village.
Is that how you describe it?
You've been to Helen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Mm-mm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Oh, okay, you've been to Helen, it's the Mini
Germantown, mini Germantown.
We were there for Oktoberfestone time.
It's a really cool place.
So Cleveland, Georgia, as weall know, the world famous home
of the Cabbage Patch Dolls.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
The Cabbage Patch Dolls.
Yes, the Cabbage Patch Dolls,that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Yes, sir, I've been there, I've been there.
Oh, we worked.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
We haven't been to the Cabbage Patch Dolls facility
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
I stood outside, but we were outside.

Speaker 6 (01:01:38):
We picked up you got the gist Directly across the
street from the sign where itsaid you know how to adopt a
cabbage patch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I went out there and watched them birth the cabbage
patch?

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
Did you?

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
I got to watch the nurse I got to watch the nurse.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
She injected the cabbage with the Venom.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
No, that's garbage pill kids.
Those are garbage pills.
It's a magicillin Nice,Magicillin Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
And yeah, they got to cut the root and everything.
It was pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
But if you're- they got to cut the root.
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
So, if you're interested, again, I think it's
a great investment, but I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Oh, it was six bed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
It's a six bed, six bath.
Hold on, I lost it 42 acres.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Includes cabins a pool, a sauna.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
RV and boat parking.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Listen, I'm telling you right now Because you might
need to buy you a boat.
Well, no, we'll do the RVparking and boat parking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Listen, I'm telling you right now Because you might
need to buy you a boat.
Well, no, we'll do the RVparking, the truck parking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
What the?

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
hell were we just talking about.
Well, are you going to sharethe catch?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Yeah, okay.
So there's one catch, though,yeah.
There is a deed restrictionrequiring you to keep this
operating as a clothing optionalresort for the next 10 years
Are you willing?

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
to bear it.
All.
It says optional, it doesn'tmean you have to it actually
says as a nudist resort.

Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
Yes, it's the wording in the article.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
So it's Serendipity Park Nudist Resort in Cleveland,
georgia, for $1.8 million,which, for 42 acres, is a
bargain.
It's just that 10-year thing.
I have a confession to make.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I feel like you can get your money back though.

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
I have a confession to make.
When this article was sent out,I called the credit union about
a loan.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
So I may be relocating.
How many?

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
acres can you get?

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I may be relocating to Cleveland, Georgia if I can
get this, well, you can get a16th of an acre 16th and a half
and a half, that's pushing it,that's pushing it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
But for $20 a night you can get a parking spot.

Speaker 6 (01:04:06):
That's right.
It's right there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Enjoy the show.
Now I saw this come across myFacebook feed from a legit news
organization yeah, this is notlike.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
The.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Onion or something like that.
And they said North Georgia andI'm like I'm interested and the
pictures are beautiful.
There's no people in them,thank God.
And I'm like, holy crap.
42 acres for $1.8 million.
And then it's like oh, I mean,I guess if you had it laying

(01:04:41):
around and you wanted to playthe long game you could, because
you know in 10 years.
It'll be worth the long game Ilike that.
I'm just saying in 10 yearsit'll be worth the long game.
I like that.
I'm just saying in 10 yearsit'll be worth $10 million.
Yeah, of course, and then youcan do anything you want with it
, right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Literally, that's what she said.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Literally, because they'll be like, as long as you
can make it not a clothingoptional resort, we'll let you
have whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
I bet you it's a profitable business, oh.

Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
I'm sure it is.
I don't know.
They're selling it.
I bet you it is, they'reselling it for $1.8 million.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Maybe they're ready to move on and do something else
.
I'm excited about that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
Again, it is in Cleveland, georgia, which is
nothing against Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Georgia, blue Ridge Mountains Come on.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
That's the catch too.
Blue Ridge Mountains that'swhat I'm saying, Just don't do
it nude.
It might be time to fire themup.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Start getting them ready.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
Make sure the batteries are good.
Get on a battery tender maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
I was going to say put the Aquafina in them, but I
don't think that's right.
It's the Aquanet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
No, what's?

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
that it's a seafoam.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
I don't think they even make that anymore they do I
knew it was some 1940s soundingyeah, exactly A little sea
thumb in the gasoline.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Yesterday, I would have ridden.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Had we been in daylight savings time yesterday,
week and a half.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Next week.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
I would have and it was in our garage because
currently they're being storedelsewhere.
But if it was in our garage anddaylight savings time and Vince
got home at the 4.30, 5 o'clockhour Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
There's a lot of, there's a lot of fairness.
I would have said and I wouldhave had my riding gear cleaned
and the seat heater worked.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I would have said jump on your bike.
And again, this is at 4.30,5o'clock, it was still lovely
yesterday.
I would have said jump on yourbike, we're.
We're at least going into paldoing the little loop and come
you know, like a 30 minute ride,warm it up just uh, but it was
beautiful yesterday after allthis sub-zero temperature we hit
.
We had numbers that startedwith the five, maybe even close

(01:06:44):
to a six.

Speaker 6 (01:06:45):
Very close to a six, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yeah, the past two days I drove a truck back from
Texas.
Oh you did and I was sittingdown at the shop.
They weren't quite ready whenthey said they were going to be
done.
They said they were going to bedone around one.
They ended up being done aroundfour.
But I waited.
You know what are you going todo.
So I ended up sitting outside.
71 degrees, light breeze, fullsun, blue skies, not even white

(01:07:10):
puffy clouds just every now andthen, you know, like the little
streak of white Duh, I mean justbeautiful day and I'm like boy
if I could just be sitting outhere with a whiskey.
It was really, really, reallynice.
And I knew I was coming back uphere to really cold, nasty
weather, and so I was like I'mjust going to soak this in and
enjoy it, and the drive back wasbeautiful weather.

(01:07:30):
And then I woke up this morningto just gray skies and rain
Yesterday was just beautiful.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Yesterday I woke up to a very sunny day, beautiful
day.
We did get a little overcast, alittle rain for about half an
hour or so and that blew out andit was just sunny and clear the
rest of the afternoon gorgeousI tell you what it was.
It would have been a great dayto ride the bike that
mississippi river drought yeahit's over.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Oh good, I drove across that thing and I'm like
I'm not sure that the tugboatshould be that close to the
bridge.
It was like, uh, in memphis,right there, you know, there's
like Memphis is kind of a weirdarea to cross over Mississippi
River because there's this hugeflat farmland area and then the

(01:08:14):
levee, which is unusual.
Usually, the levee is right onboth sides of the river, and
when I came across it it waswater from levee to levee, wow,
and so it looked like the riverwas two miles wide at that point
.
It was really cool to see Wasit lit up pretty the bridge.
I came across.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
You came across the bridge and not 55 south of it.
I came across the bridge duringthe day.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I actually ended up staying in West Memphis, which I
don't normally do.
Normally.

Speaker 6 (01:08:40):
I stay in Memphis.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
But I was literally going to be like 15 minutes
short on my clock and I'm likewell crap, so I stayed in west
memphis and, uh, actually yourhome safe thank you.
I was really impressed by hownicely uh was it gated the hotel
.
Yeah, well, you know I was, Iwas in memphis a couple weeks
ago.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
Yes, I picked up a tractor from a dealership in
memphis that's why we actuallymissed, uh, the last recording.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:09:05):
So I stayed overnight at a Fairfield Inn in Memphis.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Nice.

Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
Very nice hotel, yeah .
However, the entire thing wasgated.
Yes, when I got there about 10o'clock at night, you had to
press the intercom button to getaccess.
You had to give them a name ofa reservation before they
allowed you access to thefacility, the grounds.
Now again, once you got insideit very nice, very clean, very

(01:09:34):
nice hotel.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
I got upgraded to a suite for six hours of sleep.
But hey, I'll take it.
I wasn't gonna say I, only youknow I'm like whatever I just.
I just got a sprawl across theking bed instead of exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
I just want to go to bed.
So, yeah, whatever, you know,um, and then the next day, when
I left, the gate was open.
The gates open between 7 and 8o'clock at night, but I was
surprised at this, memphisthat's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Memphis for you.
Yeah, I actually heard it wasthe inspiration for the Mad Max
movies.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
I got to tell you that was a fun drive, though I
had rain, I had a little snow, Ihad some clear weather.
Those tractors drive so nice.
If you've ever driven a tractorBobtail, they're the roughest
ride in the world.
These 150 inch sleepers,cadillac, cadillac oh my
goodness, yeah, it's beautiful.

(01:10:27):
So I got my driving fix in fora couple days.
Cadillac, cats meal Cadillac ohmy goodness yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
It's beautiful, so I got my drive and fix in for a
couple days or so I did Podcastlistening, drive and fix.
How about you Back from Texas?
You get podcast listening in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I did I got quite a bit of podcast listening in.
I'm just digging through rightnow really hard into Fly on the
Wall which is David Spade.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
You sent me one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I did send you one that dropped this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Oh, I can't wait to listen to it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
I've gotten like five minutes in and then Kelly
called and I had to talkbusiness.
But it says David Spade andDana Carvey Originally Fly on
the Wall.
They started talking about SNL,but now they talk about all
kinds of stuff.
I have a bunch of guests on SNL, but now they talk about all
kinds of stuff.
I have a bunch of guests on.
It's a really cool show.
If you want something to listento and you like David Spade or
Dana Carvey, you'll love thispodcast.

(01:11:14):
The chemistry is great.
And then I also listen to Conanbecause I was the right age for
Conan.
I got to walk with him from thelate night after Jay Leno to
taking over to Jay Leno, togetting fired by Jay Leno, to
going over to TBS USA TBS.

Speaker 6 (01:11:35):
TBS, tbs, tbs.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
And being over there for years and I've just been
able to follow his whole careerand I thought it was hysterical
back in the day.
I still think he's funny.
I can certainly understand whypeople don't like him, but he
has a podcast that's reallyreally good as well and it's
Coder O'Brien Needs a Friend andthe whole shtick of it is he
does these hour-long interviewswith people that are major

(01:11:57):
celebrities and he talks aboutlike, how do you feel about
being Coder O'Brien's friend?
That's the whole shtick.
And then he just explains likeon the show you get three
minutes, five minutes, sevenminutes and everything's
everything's prepackaged likethey're, it's all promotional
stuff, it's all promotionalstuff, yeah, and they usually
come in and they say here's thequestions to ask me okay because

(01:12:19):
they're prepared for that soit's not like Conan's, really
thinking geez, what do I ask?
But they get to have these long, hour-long format conversations
.
I've really enjoyed it.
Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend.
That series is like six yearsold, so there's lots of episodes
of it.
That's cool.
It's really cool.
If you're just looking forsomething to listen to, that's

(01:12:39):
not just the regular Marc Maronand whatever else anybody else
listens to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
If you like comedy, if you don't like comedy and you
don't want to laugh, don'tbother.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
If you like comedy and you want to laugh, it's
pretty good Sword and Scale.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
That's true crime, don't even Mike Bidet's voice is
dreamy.
He could read the phone book.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
I like when he says we'll leave the light on for you
.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
No, that's not happening, oh goodness.
Well, that's fine Goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Well, it's good to be back.
It's good hanging out witheverybody.

Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
It is good, good hang .

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Not that we really talked about anything trucking
with us, but if you areinterested in hearing more about
our company and what we do andwhy we put this podcast on and
all that stuff, reach out to usat highfieldtruckingcom.

Speaker 6 (01:13:26):
Or email us at theoutertrekkingcom.
Or email us at the Outer BeltPodcast Dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Oh my goodness, At gmailcom, wow, we really speeded
that up, Jerry.
It sounded like they were goingthrough bad reception.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Can you clarify that?
If you'd like to call us, reachus out to us 888-833.

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
I don't know the phone number.
I didn't call the phone number833.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Highfield, that's right, you're all close.
833.

Speaker 6 (01:13:52):
Highfield.
So what's the email address?
Again, because we got thatscrewed up too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Jerry knows that one.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
The Outer Belt Podcast at gmailcom.

Speaker 6 (01:13:59):
That is.
The Outer Belt Podcast atgmailcom, I think you just
screwed that up because Jerryand I were doing a contest where
we see who can go lower in thevoice.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
And Vince is going to win All right 833.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Highfield, 833 Highfield, and you can option
one Option one for recruiting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
We are really not doing good at this, are we?

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
4353.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
This is the fun part, though Jerry's going to be
isolating.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
You 4-3-5-3.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
This is the fun part, though Jerry's going to be
isolating you.

Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
ready I am ready 8-3-3.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
8-3-3.
Option 1.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
I don't know the phone number.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
I know 4-8-3-3,.

Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
I feel 4-9-3.
8-3-3.
4-9-3.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
4-3-5-3.

Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
4-3-Y-F-I-E-L-D.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
What Patrick does is Jerry.
What's the?

Speaker 6 (01:15:05):
phone number, or just do what I do and call directly
and say hey, I don't know if Ineed to call you on the
Highfield number, but I got aquestion for you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Monday through Friday , 8 am to 6 pm Eastern Time.
Delina or myself would be happyto chat with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
And if you'd rather text not text, if you'd rather
chat with us instead of callingus, because buttermilk can be
very intimidating on the phone.
You can reach out to us athighfieldtruckingcom.
The chat feature there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
And I'll chat with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Yep hyfieldtruckingcom.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
And it's not Hayfield , no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Hayfield.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I know, I'm just saying it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Hayfield.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
We do get that a lot.
We do get that a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
And if you're listening to the audio version,
we do have the text function onthere as well, so you can text
me directly if you're listeningto the audio version of the
podcast.
If you're interested in an otrmattress, we do have those
available as well.
You can give us a call at380-222-3364.
Are you sure?

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
One more time 380-222 .

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
Ha 3364.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Yeah, I'll have the number at the bottom.
What?

Speaker 6 (01:16:17):
if I want to email you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
Jerry at otrmattresscom.

Speaker 6 (01:16:21):
And what's the website?

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
That will be wwwotrmattresscom and that is
coming very soon, nice.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Yes To a theater near you.
I think someone has to approvesomething To a computer near you
.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Oh, computer To a computer near you or a phone
near you, can you sit on your?

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
two-way internet device iPad, I mean near you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Or a straight track near you.

Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
And if you can't remember any of this, but
emailing the outer belt podcastat gmailcom, we will route you
to the right person.
That's right, the outer beltpodcast at gmailcom Best way to
get ahold of us Any of the otherstuff that we talked about
different email addresses orphone numbers If this issues an
email and we'll get you to theright place.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Or call us at 833 Highfield, option one.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
There, you go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
So again, thank you so much for hanging out with us.
If you like what we did, hitthe thumbs up button.
Subscribe to us if you are notsubscribed yet.
It really helps us out.
Keeps us going.
Keeps us going.
They're all like unsubscribe.
No.

Speaker 6 (01:17:20):
Stop them.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
Stop them If you didn't like what?

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
we did hit the thumbs down button twice and two
thumbs way down.
Leave comments.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Thumbs down button twice and like two thumbs way
down.
Leave comments.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I want to know what they think about New York.
Leave comments, suggestions,ideas, thoughts, complaints.
Yeah, and we'd be happy toreach out or take your comments
and reply back and then, cateryour show to you.
Make this show what you want itto be.
In the meantime, everybody,stay safe and make good

(01:17:47):
decisions.
Don't leave money on the table.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
And keep those wills of Tarnum.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Good night, bye, ciao , we'll be right back.

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