Transforming the Trucking Industry: Hyfield Trucking's Impact on APU Technology

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We ready to do this, ready, ready, pretty.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hey everybody, welcome to the Outer Belt.
I'm Patrick and you're one ofmy friends, tilly.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Buttermilk Eric and Jerry.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
And we're back, the OG crew just hanging out tonight
.
We're actually doing it, justhanging out tonight.
We're actually doing it alittle weird.
Tonight we're doing a weekearly Spoiler alert.
I know we're not supposed totell the audience that, but we
are, because when you'relistening to this right now.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Buttermilk, you are in Oregon.
Nope, I'm in Oregon.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Same thing right.
It won't be gone.
It'll still be there, Unlessthere's an earthquake and it
falls off the coast.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Are you taking the trail?
No, I don't want dysenteria, Ihave a baby to hold.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I have a new grandson to hold so I do not want
dysenteria.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
No, yeah, so these come out on Saturday.
It'll be my last Saturday there.
Oh, you'll actually be kind ofsaying goodbye, won't you?
It'll be some bittersweetgoodbyes, yep, maybe a birthday
party to attend.
I know I was invited to agirlfriend we share October
month.
Sadly she's a Scorpio, not aLibra.

(01:15):
We won't hold that against her.
We could, but anyway, I wasinvited and I don't know if
she's doing it this my lastSaturday there, but yeah, yeah.
And I don't know if she's doingit my last Saturday there, but
yeah, yeah.
I don't know really what myweekends look like.
I'm at the I wouldn't say mercyof my children with the baby,

(01:36):
but what their needs are is whatI'm there for.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
So what you're really trying to say is that you're at
the mercy of your children andgrandchildren and based on their
needs.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Because I won't have been staying at their house.
As far as I know, I'm stayingwith my bestie, but I don't know
It'll be my last Saturday, sothat's why we're recording early
.
But I am so excited I fly outtomorrow, which I know most
people are listening to this ona different day, so I would have
flown out on Friday, october18th.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Gotcha.
Yes, how was the flight?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, I upgraded my seat, so let's hope it's good.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Ooh.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I don't know, but it is an early flight.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
But there's no good way to get out to the West Coast
except for early flights, isn'tthere?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, we go back to Salt Lake City.
Or I go back to Salt Lake Cityor I go back to Salt Lake City.
I like Salt Lake, it wasbeautiful.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
That actually was a fun airport.
I mean, I didn't really carefor the fact that we couldn't
land and had to do that twice.
It was fun.
Oh, you weren't with us, wereyou?
That was just Vince and Ericand I.
Right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Oh, I stayed last time for the baby shower.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, so yeah they tried to have us land on a
runway that had an airplane onit.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh, that won't work.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
It would.
We could certainly land on thatrunway, correct?
If we wanted to be in a bunchof pieces, parts, parts.
Yeah, yeah, you mean theairplane can't do thing to go
off to the side.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
The runways aren't wide enough.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
unfortunately, that's the problem.
You would think they'd do thatfor safety right, make them
wider.
But no, they won't.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
No, they just pay like 20 people to sit in a tower
and monitor everything.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Somebody didn't have enough coffee that morning, or
something.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Clearly it was exciting because we were like
coming in and Could you see it?
I don't know how many airplanesyou've been in where you can
see forward.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Ironically, we've been in one.
Did the pilot come on and makesomething cheeky about it, or
what?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well, so yes but not right away.
He did, I mean obviously at thepoint because we were coming in
and it, I guess, he realizedlike this plane's not moving out
of our way, and so I mean, youjust see both, you know, at the
window, you see like the treesare really close, like we are
really about to land, and thenwe took off or whatever, and got

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out of the way, and so they hadto do all their maneuvers right
because that wasn't planned.
So they're to do all themaneuvers right because that
wasn't planned.
So they're immediately talkingback and forth with their
traffic control, trying to getcentered up and all and get back
in rotation without hitting oneof the other planes coming into
land or taking off.
Even so, it was a little momentof like not sure what's
happening.
Someone even said like oh youknow, salt Lake City has

(04:18):
terrible winds sometimes, sothis can happen, kind of thing.
And I'm thinking to myself itdidn't feel windy, we felt
pretty stabilized coming in.
It felt good, like I don't knowwhat they mean by that.
And then, probably 15 minutesafter we did the go around, the
pilot came on in theannouncement and said sorry
folks, there was an airplane onthe runway and couldn't land it.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Wouldn't have been good.
No, you're welcome.
Yes, it was a very appropriatething for them to do.
I think people don't know too.
When we do back-to-backrecordings in a week, sometimes
I feel it's hard to dig deep forcontent.
Granted, we're still sharingyour story, wow.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
No, what's really hard for content is when Jimmy
and Don are texting me and Vincemid-conversation.
It's super distracting.
Part of tracking, I agree.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Always on for those maintenance guys, always on,
always on.
So, Jerry, how's it been yourweek since I haven't seen you
two days ago?

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Good Doing, really really good.
Has it been busy?
Yeah, always busy.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
I like the shirt.
It's Chiquita right, not Car.
The shirt it's Chiquita right,not Carhartt it's Chiquita, it's
.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Carhartt, I had a funny from the day after
recording last week.
A funny, a funny.
You know we talked about Pilotand the one here in Columbus,
how the parking lot is justridiculous, it's bumpy and it's
just torn up.
It's horrible.
So the very next morning I wastaking a truck over to fuel.
And what are they doing butcarving up the parking lot to

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repair it?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
So I guess they heard our podcast Early.
I think Jerry leaked it.
I think Jerry did leak it.
Yeah yeah, Jerry did leak it.
I think what Jerry was tryingto do was get that sponsorship
money from them.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
That sweet pilot money we talked about this.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
You guys are not doing so great, I'm going to let
you know ahead of time.
This is the things I can do foryou.
Maybe send a little sweet pilotmoney our way.
And then he actually edited itin post-production out of the
last one, so now that it's yeah,but he also has to edit out how
much he hates their coffee,because when they hear that

(06:28):
they're going to not sponsor.
No, that's actually the clip hesent them.
He sent that clip.
We're going to air this.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
And then he said something about your parking
lot's uneven, so no, I actuallywent to that pilot today and I
saw those big squares, so theydidn't do the whole parking lot,
no, not the whole, thing, butthere's like these massively big
squares of just freshly pouredasphalt and it's nice.
Is it better?
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
night and day, do they?
Fix that big bump right whenyou enter the driveway.
Ooh, because you go in thedriveway and you immediately go
up the driveway and you go bloop, bloop.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Possibly.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Let's hope.
I saw it had paint lines aroundit, so I'm hoping they take
care of that.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I hope so as well.
I don't remember it being toocrazy.
I will say we were talkingabout that because we were
talking about the mudflaps, yes.
So I had to take one of ourbrand new trucks out to Trailer
shop.
Trailer shop, trailer shop, ithas those things.
And so I'm driving around andturn to get on the interstate

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and hit a bump and all thatstuff.
So I got on the interstate andI'm headed out there and there's
a certain section of road whereit's like Got a dip in it Got a
dip in it.
Pretty ruddy and I'm in the lowpart of the dip of the rut, but
that means the side of the mudflap is actually rubbing against

(07:51):
the concrete as I'm going.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
You just filed those bad boys right down for the team
going in there.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
At one point I looked out my mirror on the passenger
side, as you should doperiodically, while you're
driving and I just see smokebillowing out and I'm like is my
truck on fire on the passengerside, as you should do
periodically while you'redriving?
And I just see smoke billowingout and I'm like is my truck on
fire.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
And then it occurred to me I'm like, oh, it's that
rubber it has.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Just that would be scary, it's just burned off and
I was like, oh, that's yeah, itwas a little nerve wracking.
So I got out of the rut and itwent away.
But it was a little like, ooh,okay, no, dissolve, that's
filing it down quick.
It was filing it down quick 65miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, gonna cause some smoke.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, it's been fun.
I've actually been working outin the yard the past few days,
working out with you and Eric.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's been appreciated .

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Eric.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Bender Been in the weeds the last few days.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yes, yes, yes, we've been doing a lot of swaps as
well, so we're getting peoplelike maybe you come in and you
don't get the ideal truck thatyou wanted.
So we have side-by-side trucks,we have single bed trucks, we
have trucks with bathrooms thatwe reward excelling teams in.
We've pretty much had all ofthat happen.

(09:10):
We've had bathrooms comeavailable.
We've had even more than thatWe've had teams moving into
bathroom trucks.
We've had teams moving out ofside-by-sides into same
household.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
And a side-by-side is two twin beds.
Two twin beds yes, and a samehousehold is one full-size bed.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
For those of you that are new to the channel and
listening yes, and so wesometimes call the side-by-sides
a dorm-style bed.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
So it is literally like there's a bed on the
driver's side wall, a bed on thepassenger's side wall and
between them is a closet orrefrigerator, depending on the
model.
We've had teams move into theside-by-side model.
We've had a team we're about towe worked on their truck today,
about to do a lease purchasewith us on a truck, so we're
getting that truck prepared.

(09:56):
We've just been literally doinglike everything we can do.
We don't have a tractor in theyard.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
We don't have a tractor in the yard.
We don't have a tractor in theyard.
That's what we couldn't do.
We don't have a tractor inColumbus.
Knock on wood.
That's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
It's a good thing.
It's just been crazy.
Just the pure quantity oftrucks that move around.
What's really funny?
I was talking to one of ourteams who I know you listen to
podcasts.
You're going to be laughingbecause you know that I'm
talking about you.
They were in the yard today andthey were talking about all the
trucks and there's so muchmotion.
And they were over at one ofour shops and there's so many

(10:31):
trucks there, all these Pantherand FedEx trucks.
They're like is something goingon?
Why is all these trucks?
And I'm like the math wasn'tadding up to me.
So I get over to that shoptoday because I actually had to
do a swap, take one truck outthere, pick one up and bring it
back.
And I get out there and there'sthree FedEx trucks and four
Panther trucks that aren't ours.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
And I'm like oh that's hysterical.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
So if you don't know any better, this does look like
all of our trucks.
I was like, oh, that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
They do a lot of work on expediters there.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
They do, they really do they really do I think word
got out.
I was about to say I think theword got out that they were
really really good yeah which isgood for them.
I mean like it's they used to.
Years ago they were like theplace to get a lot of generator
and special stuff done for allthese expediters.
And then the salespeople up atFIDA Freightliner changed hands.

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They lost one of their mainsales guys.
Another one came in.
That guy didn't work out verylong.
Another one came in.
That guy ended up moving withinthe company to another section.
Then we got another guy in andnow we have a new guy in.
There's been a lot of turnover,not necessarily turnover as in
quitting, but just shuffling.
Finally have someone that's beenhere for a couple years now and

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I think he's going to stick.
Because of all that, when youtake over this division they
were kind of making the contactsthey already had with other
shops or whatever, and so someof that kind of got watered down
and you do start to see allover Columbus now all different
shops.
You see expediters.
It's not necessarilycentralized in only a couple
shops.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
There's a bunch of them.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
But now I think word is getting back.
Other people are finding outlike hey, there are these other
options that are really solid.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Solid being the word, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
So they're getting that.
It's just funny that it's likepeople are thinking like oh,
those are Eiffel trucks andthey're really not Some of them.
I wish they were Some of them.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Others you go yeah, oh yeah, there's some of them
that I'm like yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
So last week we were talking about building those
trucks and how every time we'dget something down, it would be
solid.
We'd be very happy with it.
Something would change.
Sure, and Freightliner wasguilty most of the time.
They would change the style ofthe cab or how long the nose is
or something.
Well, we talked about it lastweek that we were nervous about
the upcoming changes that werein play for Freightliner, and
the article you sent me today,it dropped, finally, it dropped,

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finally.
Yes, it did.
Yes, yes, it did.
I thought it was strange.
They dropped it from a militarycargo plane with a parachute.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
That was very strange , but it landed perfectly.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, it did land perfectly and it was kind of
cool.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
The only way it could have been better is if Elon
Musk had reached out and grabbedit with those fancy arms he
grabs a rocket swing and set itgently on the ground.
He's a competitor.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
He would have grabbed it and thrown it on the ground
and squished it, it just set itdown.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Like here you go, Recycling it for you.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Was that your?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
prototype.
Oh sorry, yeah, so no, theyrolled it out.
I got to say, if I'm being sobold, it's a good-looking truck.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
It is a good-looking truck.
It truly is a good-lookingtruck.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Volvo's new one they dropped, which we kind of
skipped over, didn't really talkabout because it happened in
the off season.
It did.
It is funky.
It's kind of weird.
It's not my favorite truck inthe world.
This is the Volvo.
This is the Cascadia Exactly,yeah it just they just really

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took the Cascadia and not a hugechange?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Not a huge change, really no.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I would say subtle right.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Very subtle yeah.
That's S-U-B-T-L-E for those ofyou who don't speak.
Patrick and Vince.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, they changed the hood, they changed the
headlights, they changed thefront bumper.
When I say they changed thehood, not much.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
No, not much at all.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Basically, they have these new headlights on it and
they're kind of more rounded off.
They're nowhere near as big asthey used to be.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
They caught on the new 45.
Yes, I don't know what thatmeans.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
They shoot 45 degrees down and straight out, and so
it's completely eliminated theneed for fog lights, because
they're LEDs, they're able toreally focus all that stuff in.
Jerry, what did you say thatyou liked about the headlights?
There was something.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
They have auto defogging Because with LEDs they
don't get hot enough to meltsnow and ice and these heat up
and defog and all that.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, wow, yep, very cool stuff.
It just looks slick.
The bumper looks really cooland I'm just wondering how much
of a pain it's going to be toreplace when a deer hits it.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
It can't be as much of a pain as replacing the
Western Star bumpers.
Well, it could be, because theproblem with Western star
bumpers is you can't get them,so I'd imagine we probably won't
be able to get these either fora long time.
But we won't see these trucksfor how long?
They work a couple years by thetime they actually get in the
previous backlog of chassis isbuilt by the custom sleeper

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builders and then they startgetting the new chassis.
So a couple years.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I'd guess yeah, well, so these will drop mid-2025.
That means they're going tostart making them in mid-2025.
Right, freightliner isFreightliner, so that's almost a
year from now.
And then let's say we got oneof the first VINs which we're
not going to because they'regoing to sprinkle them around.
Prime's going to get a few,Swift's going to get a few,

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they're going to sprinkle thelove around with all their big
carriers and all their bigcustomers and then they'll start
letting us regular people getthem.
And when they do that, like youwere just saying it, then has
to go to the upfitter or for thesleeper company for us.
So it's Bolt or ARI, and thenfrom there it's going to gori,
um.
And then it's from there it'sgoing to go to the body shop get

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a body put on it, um.
Then it's going to go get, uh,either the reefer done to it or
the generator added or whatever,and so, by the time we see it,
you're talking early 2026 at theearliest.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Even the upfitter they have to go through and make
sure everything works properly.
Yes, because there's going tobe wiring changes and that type
of thing that's going to have towork out Absolutely.
They're not going to get one inand just ship it out.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Still compatible with your current build.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
So I don't know this particular article about.
It doesn't give the details onwhat they are doing as far as
the bumper-to-back cabmeasurements, which really makes
a huge difference.
It is a minor upgrade basically.
From what I can tell, it isaesthetics mostly.
There's some cool technologythings they're doing like the

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headlights, also with thecollision avoidance system is
getting four more close sensors.
So they're able to get a littlemore geometric with that, which
I know people are like oh gosh,that system.
Well, the more sensors, themore they dial that in, the less
you have the false emergenciesand stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
There is something cool that Buttermilk would have
loved when she was on the truck.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Autopilot, autopilot.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Autopilot would have been great for her, because she
drove nights and she could takea nap while the truck was
driving.
Just kidding.
Just kidding the push and pullair brake controls are gone.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
This is cool.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's now a toggle switch.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
So she would pull that thing and her hand would
hurt for days.
So now it's just a toggleswitch for your air brake.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
I feel like it would pop out and bruise the palm or
something Like I always did it.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I can tell you right now my right hand hurts because
today I've done a lot of drivingand moving trucks so I've hit
that parking brake and pulled itout probably 20 times today.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I have a triangular-shaped callus on my
hand from pushing that brake inand the other side of that, too,
going electronic is, they saidthey removed the airlines and
the dash to that, so now youdon't have that loud pshh.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, I did see that.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Really.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I dig it.
I mean, I'm sure there's a lotof people like me going all
right, but now you've got avalve that's electrically
actuated and a button that canfail.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
You've added more complexity and yada yada.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
So I'm hoping that this is a pretty reliable.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I think it's going to be like anything, where it has
to be tested a bunch of times,yeah, and then when Swift and
Knight and all those guys gettheir hands on them, they'll
test them a lot more.
By the time it gets down to us,hopefully, all the bugs will be
worked out.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Absolutely Fingers crossed.
We run electric switches in ourdash for our lift axles.
Some of our trucks have liftaxles Sure.
And those you hit that and thatreally doesn't fail and those.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
you can hit that and that really doesn't fail.
No, because that's just twowires and it's going to a relay
to activate the lift axle.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Those usually work pretty fine.
So I'm assuming if it's kind ofa similar thing it should be.
The same Should be.
We do have lift axle issues,but that's not one of them.
Yeah, I think it's cool, Verycool.
It looks nice.
It's funny that they actuallytook the picture of the red stop
sign for the trailer brakes ofthe yellow one.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's still the picture on the switch.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yes, it's still a picture on the switch and it's a
big switch, it's not a littlebitty one.
Is it going to have a safetymechanism so if you're running
and you hit that, it won'tengage?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
It's going to have to .
It doesn't mention that here,but it's going to have to.
Yeah, it'd be too easy to reachover there to try and grab the
utility lights or something andhit the wrong switch.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I think it's going to have to.
I think that's cool.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
So if your RPMs or MPHs are certain.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
It won't let you.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
It won't let you.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, it won't let you.
It won't let you.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Probably require the brake to be applied and the
truck to be stopped before it'llwork, oh, that's a good one.
That'd be my thinking.
And if they haven't thought ofthat, that one's a freeway trade
liner.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Detroit Trucks North America yeah, they didn't show
any dash or anything.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
You think they're going to go all digital?
I don't.
Well, they're going to go alldigital?
I don't.
I know they had digital.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
As far as the digital screens.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah, like go all digital.
You know not just the littlecenter piece.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
No more analog speedometer.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Okay, so they already have that.
So if you can imagine yourgauge cluster, but is it
standard?
No.
So your tachometer and yourfuel and your all that stuff
that is already can get that.
Um, peterbilt has it.
I think volvo has it too.
Uh, all of them have it as anoption.
I will say this peterbilt andkenworth recalled like 150 000

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trucks because that screen wasmessed up.
You know it's, it's more to gowrong than an analog gauge and
it adds cost to the truck.
I I know a lot of mega fleetsaren't using it, but but some
are.
We have not gone to that optionbecause it's new and I want it
to be tested.
I have not heard aboutfreightliner having a recall on

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those yet, so maybe they'regetting from a different source,
but it's definitely somethingwhere we have taken the stance
of like, let's see what happensfirst and then we'll go that
direction.
Probably around the time theymake it standard Because at some
point it is more cost effectivejust to have every truck with
the same thing.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
And they do have their little infotainment center
as well.
We have not added that either,uh, but that's more of a
utilitarian we use that spacefor our data loggers and tcu
controllers.
So that's just real estate.
We need certain amount of spaceon the dash and can't give it
up.
It'll be interesting to seewhat, what, where they go with
this and and um, it is only a1.9% increase in fuel economy.

(22:24):
That new Volvo, they say, is a10% increase in fuel economy.
I'd be curious to see what thatlooks like side by side.
So was the Cascadia already sofuel efficient that it only had
a little bit to go Right and theVolvo needed a lot to go?
Or is it like?
No, the Volvo is quite a bitmore fuel efficient than the.
Cascadia.
I'm curious to see how thatgoes and there's some big fleets

(22:46):
that run both trucks.
I'm sure we'll get that data.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm excited to start seeing these things roll out.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, it's fun stuff to watch.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
It'll love seeing that technology get better and
smarter.
They introduced the secondevolution of the side item,
detecting monitor, which I thinkis great, because we had six
trucks, I want to say with it.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
I had one.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
They did not have that dialed in Great, so we quit
buying it because it was justtoo much of a disturbance.
But I am glad to see they havea new update of it out now.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
They now have it on the driver's side too, do they?
Yeah, that's cool, that's partof it.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I know like when the Bendix came out, which was
terrible they had options forboth sides or just one.
But the Volvo we had in theCascadia is we had.
They only had the passengerside.
Yeah, I'll be anxious to seethese on the road.
They look really nice.
It doesn't indicate any option,any changes, transmission-wise,
suspension-wise, that all kindof looks the same.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
So really more electronical, get gizmos and
gadgets.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Absolutely gizmos and gadgets and just making that
front a little more aerodynamic.
Yeah, so we talked the otherday about how the making of
Highfield and the differentthings we've done and our
timeline and all that stuff, andwe've talked about how we got
started.
We've talked about how wechanged the industry a little
bit on some of the trucks whenit comes to the bathrooms in the

(24:11):
trucks.
I alluded to some mistakes inlearning.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
we've had over the years.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
So I thought I'd share those with y'all.
Today we're going to talk about.
Well, let me reset that up.
It's not that I'm going toshare the mistakes we made
although there are some in thissegment but this is going to be
some evolutions that we've hadand we're going to talk mostly
from an APU generatorperspective.
So I want to talk about theAPUs and generators, and an APU

(24:42):
is an auxiliary power unit.
They are usually on the framerail of a truck.
They're usually a black steelbox or diamond plate or
something like that is what theytypically are, and they may be
like Carrier or Comfort Pro orDynasys or Go Power or Green
Power or Thermo King has theTri-Pak Like.

(25:04):
There's lots of them out thereand what they are for is when
you're at a truck stop or at aship or something and you are
sitting there in the cab, youcan have air conditioning and
you can have electricity youknow the little creature
comforts or heat, without havingto operate the engine so the

(25:26):
main engine of the truck.
If you remember, back in theolden days, people would just
leave their trucks running,idling forever.
Right, fuel was dirt cheap andthere were no emissions control
systems or anything on the truck, so you could just idle forever
and a diesel engine can justidle forever.
The engine itself really can dothat.
It doesn't mind it.
The problem is diesel got realexpensive and so when diesel got

(25:50):
real expensive, people startedlooking for ways to save money
and they realized a smallinvestment in a other power
source besides the engine wasactually that that sipped fuel
was better to run.
So an engine idling at highidle will probably set you back
like 1 to 1.2 gallons per hour.

(26:10):
An APU has a very tiny littlebaby diesel engine in it and
they're sipping about a quartera gallon an hour.
So it's considerably less fuel.
Also, with the emission stuffthat's arisenisen, that engine
has to run hot for the emissionsystems to work properly.
So when they're going down theroad and you're pulling a big

(26:31):
load and they're working,they're running hot.
When you are, um, you know, ata construction site and a cement
mixer or a dump truck isrunning that cement mixer or
it's lifting that dump truck upand down, it's got to generate
lots of power to make thathappen, uh, for its power
takeoff and it keeps that enginehot.

(26:51):
When you're sitting idle, evenat high idle, it's not producing
a lot of heat because it'sbarely working.
Your air conditioner,compressor and your alternator
takes very little power to work,um, so it's, it's using a bunch
of diesel which it's thenthrowing into the emission
system.
It's not getting hot enough toclean that off, and so what has
to happen is these forcedregenerations have to happen.

(27:13):
So after doing that for so longwe've all been there and I
think in this group of peopleI'm talking are with where
you've idled your truck, you getthat that little dreaded light
and you have to force regen,which means you press a button.
Your engine idles up reallyhigh.
A lot of times your engine fanwill kick on too because of what

(27:34):
it's doing.
It's shooting, depending on thesystem.
Some shoot diesel and actuallycatch it on fire and burn out
the emission stuff, and thatjust uses even more fuel, and
it's really not good.
An in motion while the truck isrunning.
Your truck will automaticallyregenerate itself without having

(27:56):
to do all that, and it's a muchmore efficient and better use
of that technology.
Forcing it, you don't get agreat region, and what happens
is you end up burning up thosesensors, you end up having a lot
of issues with the filters, andso it's just best not to idle
your truck.
It's really really somethingthat's terrible to do these days

(28:18):
because of the high fuel pricesand the emission stuff that's
on the truck.
So these APUs are usually likelittle two and three cylinder
diesel engines little, tiny,tiny things.
They do them a couple differentways.
So when you look at somethinglike a TriPak from Thermo King
and I think Green Power does thesame thing, and there's a few

(28:40):
others that do they have thatlittle diesel and there's a few
others that do they have thatlittle diesel.
Its belt runs a compressor foran air conditioner, just like
your car would have and it runsan alternator, just like your
car would have to recharge yourbatteries, and so a lot of
people will take that.
They'll put a power inverter onthe truck, which is those

(29:03):
things that'll take 12 volts andmake it a regular 110 outlet.
I mean you can see them assmall as one of them will fit in
your cigarette lighter All theway to at a truck stop.
You look at them.
They almost look like thoseold-school amplifiers from back
in the day With the cooling fanson them, cooling fans on them,
and everything and then you canrun like a microwave and a tv

(29:24):
and all that stuff off of them,and so those apus are just
constantly charging thebatteries.
Keep the batteries charged andthat's how you get your
electricity.
It's a way to do it, uh, and itworks decent.
Then that compressor has anevaporator condenser and it
actually blows cold air insideyour, your room and and

(29:44):
everything.
It works.
Nice for factory sleeper trucks, not too big.
The acs are all sized to beable to cool down your typical
factory sleeper truck.
They produce enough electricitybecause all you can really do
in those things is a microwaveor a television or maybe one of
those little bitty coffee pots,um laptop, that kind of thing,

(30:05):
but not a whole lot more.
For us.
We run the bigger sleepers andso now we have water heaters, we
have rooftop air conditioners.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
We have obviously televisions, the cooktop.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Cooktop ovens, induction cooktop ovens.
Our microwaves are alsoconvection ovens so we have a
much higher demand on theelectrical load.
So the ones we use same littlethree-cylinder diesel engine and
they hook up to a 6,000-wattgenerator.
There is no compressor on ours,there's no alternator on them.
Some have an alternator butmost don't.

(30:42):
They produce 6,000 watts of 110out power, just like a regular
generator would do right.
So from there we also have somethat are not APUs that make
that 6,000 watts.
We have the generator modelswhich are just actual generators
, like Onans, like you'd find onan RV.
They produce 8,000 watts of 110power.

(31:05):
So we take those, we put themin the truck.
We actually do the opposite.
We take that 110 power and wemake a battery charger to keep
our batteries charged.
So we're taking 110 and turningit, 12 volt keeps batteries
charged, lots of power.
We can run a rooftop, we canrun our microwave, we can run
our cooktop.
Not all at the same timenecessarily, like if you are
cooking something in your oven,in your microwave oven, and

(31:29):
you've got something on thecooktop and you've got your hot
water heater going and yourrooftop AC.
Well, there's just not enoughelectricity for all of that all
at once, but you can do likemost of that.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's nice.
To call that the Macarena Alittle bit right, You've got to
plan a meal accordingly.
Call that the Macarena A littlebit right, You've got to plan a
meal accordingly.
You really do.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
In the water heater.
It's one thing that catchesmost people off, because they're
not thinking about the factthey've got a 1,500 or 1,800
watt draw that they may not evenneed.
If you're not using hot water,that time turn it off.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
That's funny.
You say that because we had atruck where we had an issue with
that.
We had to get it really coldinside.
If it was hot outside, get theAC really cold, turn the AC off.
Run the microwave or run thecooktop.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
And.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I never thought about the water heater causing that
issue.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
You were today years old.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I was today years old when I did that.
Well, the next time y'all goout yeah, Usually.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Laredo, I plan meals differently to where we wouldn't
have to kick the AC, like hewas saying.
Get it cold, turn it off so youcould run something else.
I finally figured out morethings like meats and cheese and
charcuterie board or sandwichesor something different like
that, because the truck we werein at the time out of the three

(32:45):
just couldn't sustain cookingwith the air conditioner when
it's 110 degrees outside too.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
It's not like you can't turn the AC off for two
hours to cook, and that includedthe Instapot.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
So even the Instapot plugged in drew enough
electricity that the airconditioner would just trip the
breaker every time.
Water heater Never thoughtabout that, yep, so you all out,
trip the breaker every time.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Water heater.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Never thought about that.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
So you all out there listen to that Water heater.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yep, sometimes you've got to kill it with the breaker
.
Sometimes some of the truckshave just a switch.
So then we do the 8,000-wattones for the well as an
experiment with, I should say,with some of the shower trucks
Not all but some.
So that's with some of theshower trucks, not all but some.
That's kind of how we've builtthat.
What happened was when we got inthe business.

(33:31):
We bought a factory sleepertruck.
That truck had a tri-pack on it.
We rebuilt that thing Literally.
I think the diesel engine blockwas original.
We know, uh, literallyeverything all the belts, all
the pulleys, all the alternators, like the compressor, uh, the

(33:53):
condenser coil, the, theevaporator, like everything.
But I mean we got like 30 or 40000 hours out of it, which is a
long time um, and that dieselengine still ran just fine.
It was just everything elseabout it that we had to replace
and it was really reliable.
It would keep that truck icecold in the dead of winter.

(34:14):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
That sounds like your speed.
Yeah, exactly, ice cold in thedead of winter.
That sounds about your speed.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
So I kid you, not in that truck, because you're right
, you could get it cryogeniclevels.
We actually bought it used andit was a cheap spec.
They actually didn't do thewinter package.
So these trucks can get awinter package which basically
means they have insulation inthem.
On a factory sleeper truck.
They didn't buy that, so thistruck had no insulation, it was
just a vinyl wall, a space andthe aluminum from the outside,

(34:44):
so in the middle of winter.
If it was a bright, sunny day,it'd be 100 degrees inside that
sleeper.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Because there's no insulation.
The sun beating down on it,would just bake it.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I never thought about that Now, if there was no sun,
it'd be freezing.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
mean.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Right, so I would.
Commonly, if we're sittingsomewhere, we'd run the AC.
Commonly, if we're sittingsomewhere, we'd run the AC In
winter, in middle of winter, andwe actually had a time where
the AC quit working and we'relike crap, what happened?
When we got a little furthersouth, we had time on a load.
We popped into a Thermo King.
The guy showed me we had apiece of ice that got stuck on
the fan and so when the fan wentto go turn, it couldn't and it

(35:24):
popped the fuse.
And so when the fan went to goturn, it couldn't and it popped
the fuse.
And so the guy showed me likehere's how to change fuse out.
Didn't charge anything.
He was the nicest guy in theworld.
Yeah, in the middle of winterwe ran that thing because it was
a poorly designed situation,but it was dependable.
It rained really really well Inthe middle of summer in Laredo.
It would still stay cold.
It was a really good system.

(35:45):
But again in laredo it wouldstill stay cold.
It was, it was, it was.
It was a really good system.
But again for the biggersleepers it just didn't work.
The first custom sleeper truckwe bought, again used, had a
power tech generator on it andthat thing was a tank.
It did not auto turn on to saveyour battery so you had to
constantly monitor your battery,but when you did need it it

(36:10):
always ran.
It was always dependable.
It was a great generator.
And come to find out, when westarted building our own trucks
they weren't making them anymore.
So we were like, well, thatfigures, you had a PowerTech,
didn't you at one point, yes,how was yours?
Or do you remember?

Speaker 4 (36:27):
It ran great.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, yep, quiet Never had any issues, it was
just a really well-builtgenerator.
So we actually so we couldn'tget those.
So that new truck we ordered,we got the Onan, which was the
equivalent of it, quietgenerator, real power, all this
stuff you remember from previousepisodes.
That thing got delayed, thattruck got delayed, delayed,

(36:50):
delayed, delayed.
So we ended up buying a coupleused trucks to kind of fill in
the gap.
And the first one we bought hada Comfort Pro on it.
Now, I had heard horriblestories about Carrier Comfort
Pros and I didn't know anythingabout them.
I'd never experienced them.
But I'm like, it's on the truck, we'll run it.
If it doesn't work, I'll swapit out for an Onan, but let's
just see how it does.
It was such a reliablegenerator.

(37:10):
I was stunned at how well itdid, producing that 6,000 watts
power.
Again, if you're doingeverything, you've got to
balance a little bit, but stillit would really take a beating
and do quite a bit.
We also bought another truckthat had an Onan on it.
So at this point we've got aTriPak, a Powertech, two Onans

(37:34):
and this Comfort Pro, which is awild assortment.
Tripak won't work for the nexttruck because, again, custom
sleeper, it's too big.
The truck we were building wasthat M2 dry van and we didn't
want to put an on it.
Um, because we're trying tokeep the cost down and I we'd
had such good success with thecomfort problem like let's try

(37:56):
it again.
And so we built with thattripod with that comfort pro on
it and it worked great and I'mlike, oh, another thing about
them is the Comfort Pros wouldgo 1,000 hours for an oil change
and Onan.
I think the book says 150 hours.
We ran ours for 500.
The book says 150.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
We would do 500.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
But that was iffy.
If you ran it for 1,000, youwould kill your motor.
Like they're not.
They're super finicky that way.
So that was another nice thingabout having the comfort pro.
But when we started buildingour bathroom trucks, we're like,
hey, these are nice big rewardtrucks, let's go ahead and put
those onions back on them.
So we started adding thoseonions back on and we did four

(38:40):
or five, six of them, somethinglike that.
And then we found once thesegenerators, these onans
expensive generators, startedgetting two, three, four
thousand hours on them.
They started breaking down leftand right and we were like you
gotta be kidding me.
So, okay, it is what it is, getto the shop, get it fixed,

(39:01):
because the onans are primarilymarketed as an RV generator.
When you go to a Cumminsdealership who Cummins owns Onan
, they think of you as an RVcustomer and so they will very
much do the all.
Right.
Well, you know, leave yourvehicle here with us, and then
you know, four or five, sixweeks, we'll get it back to you

(39:22):
and it's like, well, that's notan option, it's a.
This is a working truck, right?
So we found several cumminsdealerships across the nation
that were good and wouldacknowledge we're a truck and
would work us in and get us backout, but that was few and far
between.
I mean, you had own ends.
Did you ever run into that?

Speaker 4 (39:39):
we did, uh, and you were right, there was one place
in particular um sacramentothere's a Cummins the best, yes,
the absolute best by far.
Loved their facilities.
They had shore power on theback of their lot.
They would let us come in andstay overnight and plug in and
free of charge, and I mean theywere great.
So anytime we had onan issueswe would pray to break down in

(40:03):
that area.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Well, if you could just find a lot of Reno, it's
just right there across themountain yeah, absolutely.
So, but that stinks, right, itdoes To have to send all your
trucks to California to gettheir generator fixed.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Has it gotten better.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
No, just a quick no.
So we were probably.
How many trucks were we in, Idon't know.
Let's call it eight own-ins inthat.
We just said we're going to goback to Comfort Pro and that's
just how it's going to be fromnow on.
So we built a large number oftrucks with Comfort Pros and

(40:40):
Carrier did something that waskind of strange.
All these Comfort Pros werebuilt in America, proudly built
in America, yada, yada, yada.
And they moved their factory toCanada and we're like okay, I
mean, chrysler and Ford built alot of their vehicles in Canada,
so I wish it stayed American,but it is what it is right.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
What's your choice at this point?
There is no choice.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
And when they made that move, those APUs started
coming out with issues, lots ofproblems, lots of issues and we
were like, oh man, you've got tobe kidding me, so what do you
do?
We didn't want to go back tothe own ends because you
couldn't get them serviced, youcouldn't get them worked on, so
we just dealt with them for awhile.
And so we're like, we justdealt with them for a while and

(41:27):
Eric and I were invited to godown with a few people from
FedEx to the Great America TruckShow in Dallas and we were
there repping our brand but alsoFedEx Kenyon kind of at the
same time, and we had a prettygood trip.
We were walking around thetruck show and there was this

(41:47):
group of people from dynasys.
Now, I remember dynasys.
They made a decent product butthey used these like, uh,
perkins and caterpillar they'reI mean, everybody knows
caterpillar, but perkins isanother one.
They made small diesel enginesand, uh, those were 200 to 500
hour oil change intervals and soI never understood by the use

(42:08):
those versus a kubota, which isa thousand hours.
We went over there and I toldthem, like you know, I like your
product.
I just wish you use theseengines and we'd be interested
in buying some from you, andthey're like we do and I was
like what're like yeah, westarted building with Kubota
like a couple of years ago and Iwas like really, and so I sat

(42:29):
down and talked with them.
They had a 6,000 watt.
Basically it was like a comfortpro killer in their minds.
It was the same specs as whatthey did, only better, and I was
like this is great, this mightbe an option for us.
I said you know, what I reallylove is an 8 000 water, because

(42:49):
our bigger trucks with thebathrooms and the hot, bigger
hot water I mean you're talking10 gallon hot water heaters at
this point and all the stuff.
I'm like I really like somethingthat's a thousand hour interval
, that extra power, somethingsimple, simple to run.
Uh, not a belt driven, I want adirect drive, apu that bolts on
the side of a truck.
I don't want to spend a $1,000or $2,000 on a fancy case, to
put it in.
I want to make it superserviceable.
We worked back and forth for along time.

(43:12):
Actually, they bespoke build usthis generator.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
It was such a good thing.
They put it on the market asjust a product they sell.
Now it's no longer bespoke,they just make it.
We were really happy and weactually talked to one of our
dealers here in uh columbus.
They talked to the people fromuh dynasties and um opened up
them as a dealership and theystarted putting them on for us
and I was so happy.

(43:40):
We had this beastly 8 000 wattstrongwatt strong generator.
Did you have one?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
I did.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Really.
I mean some teething issues atfirst, yeah, but they dialed it
in Really strong, really goodgenerator.
Then their little 6,000-wattgenerator which was the Comfort
Pro killer.
That thing was quiet.
It's considerably quieter thana Comfort Pro.
It was super sleek, lookedreally nice.
They made the outside case outof powder-coated aluminum, not

(44:10):
powder-coated steel, whichCarrier did, which means no rust
.
You know, they just end uplooking really nice after a few
years.
So we were very happy with themand we own quite a number of
them, quite a few, yeah, and inthe meantime we did get a few
trucks with Comfort Pros on themstill, and all those teething

(44:31):
issues from Canada are all gone,you know.
They're now making a reliableproduct again, sure.
So we were happy with that aswell, and so we kind of were
taking both.
I got to say, four or fivethousand hours in we are finding
out that this might have beenone of those things I'm not as

(44:52):
happy with.
On the Dynastis yeah, so wehave.
This is one of those where,like it's a good product, it is
quiet.
I think their controller istrying to do too much.
Like it's a really cool led,led screen, lcd lcd screen it's
very nice, it's slick.
There's a lot of informationthere.

(45:12):
I would say too muchinformation.
It confuses the drivers as tolike do I need to oil change or
what?
Because it's it's.
It's selling way too muchinformation because it's an
intelligent controller that'salways on.
After so many hours of being onand we're talking, talking,
days after days of being on,it'll lock up and you literally
have to, like old-schoolcomputer, unplug it and replug

(45:33):
it back in.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Oh, and so Control-Alt-Delete, huh.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Exactly, exactly.
So it's like I thought we hadan amazing setup and then have
you brought it to theirattention?

Speaker 1 (45:49):
We?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
have and they've done some software updates and they
have worked with us Okay andthings have gotten better.
The other thing is we kind ofhave another situation, like the
Cummins thing, where this isnot a situation, where the RV
side of it makes us they thinkwe're a different customer than
we are Right.
This is just one of thedownsides of working with a

(46:10):
smaller company, is there justare fewer shops.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Mechanics.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Mechanics to work with.
I think Don and Jimmy haveidentified several across the
country, considerably more thanthe Onans, considerably more
than Cummins shops to work with.
But it's just tricky.
It's not like Carrier, wherethere's literally every city in
America has a Carrier dealershipSure sure.
We've actually on our latestround of trucks, the Panther

(46:37):
trucks I talked about a fewweeks ago that we're taking
delivery of.
We did swing back to Carrierbecause they have come out with
a new generator to replace theComfort Pro called the Aspen,
extremely similar to whatthey're already building.
From a mechanical side it's thesame diesel engine, same
generator.
That kind of stuff hasn'tchanged.

(46:57):
The controller is new, but it'snot a big fancy.
You've had more experience thanI have.
It's not a big fancy panel likethe Dynasys.
Has experience with than I have.
It's not a big fancy panel likethe dynasties right, it's, it's
actually more of a it's more ofa simple right.
It is um simple panel.
The shell of it is no longerthat steel that rust.
It's actually like a composite Iwould say plastic.

(47:21):
It's a fancy plastic.
It's not just plastic plastic,it's.
It's a durable, rubbery plastic.
Um, so that means no more rust,no more ugly looking components
, easy to replace if it evergets cracked, kind of thing.
So I'm excited to see whatthey're doing um with that and
um going forward.
We did buy a few onions I thinkwe have seven of them now oh,

(47:46):
to run our tractor fleet, yep.
And we are finding out thatthat absolutely has not been
resolved and we are still havingissues with Cummins dealerships
.
So we currently have a spareOnan generator and we'll be
using that to swap out when onebreaks down and get it fixed,
and then it's just constantlyhave one extra spare generator.

(48:09):
It's ridiculous, it's thestupidest thing in the world,
but you know we have to make upfor their downfall.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
So you can't explain what you are and they don't go.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
oh, they just don't function that way internally,
they don't care.
Yeah, that's interesting, it'sfunny.
They just don't function thatway internally.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
They don't care.
That's interesting, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I got a phone call today from one of our tractor
teams who was temporarily in astraight truck.
And so in the tractor they havethe Onan, yes, in the straight
truck they have the Comfort Pro.
And he called and he said whatmenu do I need to get into to

(48:46):
find the hours on this APU?
And I said well, do me a favor,go back to the, the main screen
, because it's okay.
I said look in the top lefthand corner.
Yeah, he looked.
He goes.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, because on the mainscreen of the comfort pro in the
top left hand corner is whereyou find your hours, where both
the onan and the xyasys.
You have to go deep into menusto find those hours.

(49:07):
And he looked right at it andhe thought I had to go into a
menu to find it.
So the Comfort Pros are muchsimpler.
They have more buttons on thefront than a Dynasys, but those
buttons generally are single useversus navigating through menus
.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
So it was a funny phone call to me.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
We only have the one right.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
We always have comfort pros for all three Three
trucks.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Super simple.
We are by far majority comfortpros.
We are, we probably have 80comfort pros in the fleet.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Do we have Aspens already on some trucks?

Speaker 3 (49:43):
One One.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
And you've fiddled with it, vincent, a little bit,
yes.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
A little bit.
I actually took that truck tothe carrier dealer not far from
us and had them walk me throughsome stuff, but we learned
things about that controllerthat is completely different
than the Com pro.
Yeah, so it's, it's interesting, it's a learning curve yeah,
yeah, well, what I like about it?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
so the own in tells you nothing.
Eventually you have to gothrough in like see how many
hours you have.
It's very dumb.
When you turn your truck off,you actually have to go and tell
it to check Literally press abutton for it to.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Two buttons.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
You have to press two buttons.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
You have to press a button and then confirm it with
an enter button for it to watchyour battery.
So if you forget to do that, ohto watch your battery.
Yeah, you just got home.
You're going to be home for aweek.
You need that thing to kick onand off while you're at home to
keep your battery charged.
You get home, you're unloadingthe groceries out of the truck
into the house, you're gettingready to hang out and you forget

(50:51):
to just press that stupidbutton.
Come back to a dead truck.
It's a $200 service call.
That's frustrating with them.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Where's the Dynasys and the Comfort Pro?
Just automatically.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Correct, and the Dynasys.
So the Comfort Pro has thehours in there, but that's all
it has.
It won't tell you when you needa service.
The Dynasys actually keepstrack of your oil changes.
So when you do an oil changeit'll tell you, hey, in 1,000
hours.
As long as you reset it, aslong as you reset it, It'll

(51:22):
actually count down and itthrows a little alert up.
As long as you reset it.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
As long as you reset it, It'll actually count down
and it throws a little alert up.
Hey, you need to get theservice due, Right.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
So, that's a really nice feature.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
But again it takes you resetting it, but I mean
like most cars these days, dothe same thing with their oil
change.
You've got to reset it there.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
But it's just remembering to go and hit that
reset.
So they all do something kindof neat.
I really like about the comfortthe new aspens, I should say,
is a lot of the programming isdone behind the scenes on a
computer.
You have to actually plug intoit and your computer tells it
what to do.
Battery monitor, for example Idon't think anybody

(51:58):
intentionally turns it off, butit is easy to accidentally turn
it off on the Comfort Pro Withthe new Aspen.
Once we set it you won't beable to turn it off.
It will kick on and it will getbetter.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Yes.
So there's little things likethat that are actually kind of
sweet that I'm looking forwardto working with on the Aspen and
again learning it a littlebetter.
So you know, are we going tokeep buying Dynasties?
Probably, but we're definitelygoing to try the Aspens out and
get a good feel for those yeah.
It's trucking.

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All trucks break down.
The good thing about having alot of anything is you know when
they break down, how they breakdown, where you can get them
fixed that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
You start seeing those patterns.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
You see those patterns and you get really good
at fixing them.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
How long has Aspen been on the market?

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Weeks.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Are there others already currently using it, beta
testing it?
I mean, I don't know what thewords are.
We?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
might be the first expediters using it, we might be
, but there are definitely someon tractors, I recall their
carrier dealer talking about theAspen six months or so ago.
Yeah, but they were concernedthat there wasn't a
generator-only option at thatpoint Because it was full APU

(53:24):
with their comfort control unitor ccu, with heating and air
conditioning coming off the theapu, and we don't use that on
the ap right so this is kind ofyeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
It's a relatively new uh model of the aspen nice,
yeah, yeah, and even unlike thethe power only version of the
carriers, the comfort pros thecomfort pros, um, that's a
relatively new product.
so the old school ones part ofwhy I said I was dreading it
buying them because, um, I'dheard bad things they actually

(53:57):
were a full comfort pro andwhenever they installed them
they actually the company thatwas doing it invented not
Comfort Pro, but the actualcompany installing them invented
a I'm going to call it defeatswitch to be able to not install
the CCU and only use it as agenerator.

(54:18):
So they were basicallyengineering these things after
they were already built to dothis and through installing
enough of those Carrier said nowwhat are y'all doing?

Speaker 1 (54:30):
And.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Carrier said well, we can just sell that to you.
And so that's how thegenerator-only version of the
Carrier even came to exist.
Was this one company inColumbus already doing these
conversions?
And then, once Carrier starteddoing it themselves, way more
reliable, way more solid, that'show that came to be.
But same thing with dynastas.

(54:52):
Dynastas did not have a um, agenerator, only standalone unit.
It was when we talked to themand kind of explained what we
were doing that they justimmediately, from day one, said
yeah, we can go in there, it'sfor them, it's a software update
thing.
Right, they can just go inthere and tell the software
you're not going to have a ccu.
Which is a ccu is a climatecontrolled unit, it's a software
update thing.
They can just go in there andtell the software you're not
going to have a CCU.
A CCU is a climate-controlledunit, so it's your AC and heat.
So the display controller knowsyou don't have that.

(55:16):
So it's not going to freak outBecause, like any of these
things, if it thinks you have itand it can't see it, it just
shuts the whole system down.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Makes sense.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
So you don't want it to think it has one, right?
Yeah, it's been a veryinteresting thing.
So they did get the Aspenobviously figured out, because
we do already have those.
But even with the Aspens, likethis first round of trucks we're
getting right now, not all ofthem have it.
No, a couple of them are.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
Comfort.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Pros because the switch just didn't happen in
time for us to get theminstalled.
So we actually have some of theolder comfort pro models Now
they're brand new units.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Brand new, yeah, but they're older technology.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Older technology.
And then some are the Aspen.
And it's funny because I wasjust over at Fighter
Freightliner the other day and Iwas showing a truck to a team
that they're going to be gettingand I was like, oh look, it's a
comfort pro.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
I was like oh look, it's a Comfort Pro.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I'm like oh, so we have trucks we haven't even
bought yet that have the oldertechnology than what we've
already bought.
So it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Yeah, fun, how that works, my truck with the new one
that you got us.
When we were out we had theDynasys 8K and I remember going
the first time we had service onit.
We went to our place here inColumbus and he told me he was
like wow.
And I said what?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
And he goes your serial number is 0003.
Yes, wow.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Yeah, that kind of stuff that's fun.
I mean, you know, to be a partof that creative process.
And what's really fun is theengineer over at Dynasys.
His name is Patrick.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Oh, so it's like Patrick Square.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Yeah, so all the emails are like Patrick to
Patrick, from Patrick to Patrick, but being able to work with
them and figuring little thingsout like the first round of
design.
We never built it round ofdesign.
We never built it, actually hadthe generator and the engine
backwards of how it is now, andthe reason that it is the way it

(57:14):
is now versus what it was, isit was just me writing back
going hey, I see, it looks likethe oil filter on this unit is
facing the frame rail.
Is that gonna be hard to get towhen they're servicing it?
Yeah, and they were like, yes,it will and they revised it and
flipped it around.
So now it's when you take thecover off, it's easy to get to

(57:36):
all that stuff wow, they put thefuel filter in an easy,
accessible way.
They put the air filter in aneasily accessible area.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
So our company, our vendors, our shops are saying
thank you.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yes, I have a question for you, though, about
the engineer over at Dynasys.
Did you call him Pat I?

Speaker 3 (57:54):
did not.
I was curious, have you?

Speaker 1 (57:58):
visited or toured their facility.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
I have not.
They're out of.
I want to say Nebraska or Idahoor something.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Oh, I think it would be fun.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
That's a bit of a drive, a little bit Cold, it's
cold, it's 24-7 cold.
I will say what's really coolis they do these generators for
trucks and they also do thesegenerators, apus, power units,
for those massive cranes thatare building skyscrapers.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Big tower, cranes, skyscrapers, oh yeah, and yeah,
and they use them for, like,massive mining backhoes and not
backhoes front loaders and thesehuge dump trucks and stuff.
So their equipment is beingused all over the place.
That's cool.
It's uh.
It's not just a trucking deal.
They've actually found a way tolike, really um, spread their
stuff around in a really coolway.
They have a fully electricoption out too.
It's a battery powered kind ofunit.

(58:53):
You have to use a CCU for that.
Because of the battery itdoesn't work for us.
Again, it's not sized for a bigsleeper.
It's a product we don't use, butit is a really uh thing.
They have right.
Um, thermo king has one out aswell.
So, um, I think that I think inthe future we're going to see a
lot of those come along.
Um, I've been watching on therv world so, like you know, a

(59:18):
lot of times the rv world getssomething before we will.
The rv world.
They're doing these lithiumsetups from the oEM, so from the
manufacturer, not likesomeone's got an RV and they're
retrofitting it to do this.
From the manufacturer, wherethey're putting these lithium
battery kits in that are strongenough to run an air conditioner
.
These are big, serious batterykits and they have worked with

(59:44):
Ford or whoever who's making thechassis, or Mercedes, where it
monitors the battery and it'llturn the RV's engine on, charge
the battery.
They put these huge alternatorson them.
It turns the engine on, does ahigh-speed idle with this big
alternator on it, charges thebattery system up quickly, turns

(01:00:05):
the engine off and then you'vegot hours of air-conditioned
like power for air-conditioningand everything, plus, obviously,
when it's charging, you stillcan use all that stuff as well,
they did a test on one.
It was a class B van camper, soit's bigger than any sleeper we
have.
You know, this is a 20 vancamper, so it's bigger than any
sleeper we have.

(01:00:25):
This is a 20-foot camper and wehave, I think, 12-foots our
biggest sleeper.
So this is a lot bigger thanwhat we normally have.
And they ran that thing, theybrought it to a festival.
They checked the hour meter onthe van before they left and
they kept the inside of the RV.
The rv set to like 72 or 73degrees left and came back over

(01:00:50):
12 hours later it was still thesame temperature and the engine
had not kicked on.
wow, so like yeah, it's wow now.
The batteries were just aboutdead, the engine was about to
kick on, you know like still 12hours.
It's still a crazy amount oftime, and then it only charged.
It's like an hour of runtimefor another 12 hours of use.

(01:01:11):
So I think that technology hascome into trucks.
I really do.
It's just not here yet, becauseyou have to get both the APU
and the truck manufacturer onthe same side.
Right now they're bolt-onproducts that are separate.
But once that thing happens, Ithink it'd be really cool to see
what happens then.
Because I'll tell you this,apus by far are the number one

(01:01:37):
things that break down ourtrucks by far.
Yes, they are, yes, they are.
And so getting that to a pointwhere we don't have to use that
little diesel engine anymore, Ican't wait.
Wow.
Now I will say too that systemI just talked about with the RV.
It's about $30,000.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
So it's not cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
It's not cheap.
An APU is $10,000.
So it's three times the price.
But you know, like everythingwith maturity, the price drops.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, the price will come down.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yeah, I think it's going to be exciting when that
actually comes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
There's a pretty cool story about APUs.
I didn't know at all.
I feel like I do now.
Well, I know most of it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Yeah well, you lived most of it right.
You saw some of that stuffhappen In the Dynastus you only
ever got to experience.
But there were other Dynastusesthat were right alongside your
trucks because y'all were therein that stage where we were
buying Comfort Pros andDynastuses and all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
That truck.
We talked about it on the lastepisode where the battery died
in the fuel island.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Yes indeed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
And we again last episode.
But anyway, he's like go trythe start in the APU when I fire
this battery up.
That's right, and I go backthere and I'm like I don't know
how to turn this one on, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
push up and hold and you have to hold until it fires.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
I'm like it was an Onan and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
I'm just not familiar with it, even working in the
yard for the first year I don'tthink I ever we didn't have an
Onan in the yard until we gotthat first tractor.
We had trucks in the fleet thathad Onans, but not many.
A couple of them left, but wedidn't have an Onan in the yard
until we got that first tractorand by that time you were
already in recruiting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
So I'm in there trying to figure out how to
start up an APU.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
It's not just you Our good friend Vince Chili I
believe he goes by- I do Iremember him calling me the
first time?

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
He ever got in the tractor and was like I pressed
the on button and nothinghappened.
Nothing happened and I was like, oh, what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
And you're like an Onan.
I'm like, oh, it's a press andhold.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
He's like press and hold.
You have to hold for a longtime.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
You have to hold for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
And they lose their prime way faster than these
other APUs do.
So you will actually findyourself having to press the
power off button and hold whichis the prime, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Why do we like these generators again?
We don't Dead quiet.
That's why we like them Deadquiet, but even when I drove.
So I had a power tech and Idrove.
I never drove a truck with anown hand but power techs were
not dead quiet but darn close.
I didn't like it because with aComfort Pro running it's louder

(01:04:31):
, it's consistent, it kind ofdrowns out the noise of a truck
stop.
It does Because a truck stop'snot a quiet place, An Onan being
dead quiet at a truck stop.
You hear every break, everytime someone hits their
electronic parking brake, everytime someone hits their
electronic parking break everytime the reefer.
Next door, the guy's air dryerthat goes off every 12 seconds.

(01:04:52):
You hear all that, and so to methat's annoying.
I would rather have thisconstant, steady sound of a
Comfort Pro.
Just ooh, it just drownseverything out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I was in the yard this week doing some minor
touch-up cleaning and I was onan upper bunk and there wasn't
very much room and I'm like Ihad finished cleaning it all and
I'm like my back is killing me.
So I laid down on that upperbunk for just a few moments,
just to kind of stretch out,because it was kind of cramped.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
You were literally lying down on the job.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I was literally lying down on the job.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
And the vibration of that generator.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
There's something about it, you're ready to close
your eyes and call it a day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I was and all I was doing was just trying to stretch
the back out before I hoppeddown off that upper bunk, but
I'm out before I hop down offthat upper bunk but I'm like,
wow, I I mean we've been off theroad for two years almost two
and a half years and I'm likethere's still something about
that.
That generator, just that, thatlull, I don't know.
Is that meaning you havetrucking in your blood?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I'm not sure what it is I think it's just, I think
it's a frequency it's 1800 rpm,oh, uh.
So the carriers are constantspeed.
So no matter if they have noload or if they have the
heaviest load, they're alwaysgoing to maintain 1,800 RPM,
which is why you don't hear themlike like up or down or
anything.
It's constantly that same speedand it does something to our

(01:06:21):
internal clock.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
It does.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
I think you know we work on 60 seconds in a minute,
60 cycles.
Our electricity is 60 cycles,60 hertz, like I think we've all
been programmed so much toeither 60 cycles or 24 frames,
which is what our eyes like,that 1800 is divisible with both

(01:06:46):
of those and it's like it justsoothes us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
It soothes, it, was very soothing.
Can we hook one up and mayberun it out?
Our neighbors will love us forit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Oh yeah, they'll love it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Can we hook one up, make the bed, do a little.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Yeah, I'll work on that while you're gone last week
.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Okay, oh, that's awesome, and it's just not the
sound.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
It's that again, that slight little.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Yeah, it's vibration.
Yeah, yeah, maybe it doescenter a person.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Maybe that's what I miss, I don't know Could be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I was reading the Onan manual last week so I was
trying to figure something outwith it, and the Onans have some
great features for RV camping.
You know they have a quiet timefeature where you set your
quiet time hours and two hoursahead of quiet time it will
monitor where your battery's atand if it thinks you need
battery overnight it will kickon to charge the battery, so it

(01:07:41):
won't come on overnight.
There's some really coolfeatures on the Onan that just
don't apply to us, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Well, and the reason the Onans are so quiet is
they're National Park compliant.
Every Onan made is NationalPark compliant, so National Park
says no more than 50 or 60decibels at 50 feet away or
something like that.
So it's very, very strict andthey do have the quiet time
hours because there's a lot ofplaces that do have a hard.

(01:08:08):
You cannot run your generatorat night, you know in all
fairness.
So most RVs and all of our Boltsleepers use a Magnum RV
controller, which has a littlething on there AGS.
Have you seen the button forAGS?
It's one of the several littlesmall ones, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
You've probably seen it and just didn't know what it
was for, because we don't use it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
AGS is auto generator start.
So with the Magnum inverter youcan actually tell your inverter
to control your generator.
Interesting, nobody does thaton the straight trucks or on the
tractors, but that's a feature.
That's there.
Now, how that works, how theytalk to each other, do we need
to buy a module?

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
I don't know any of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
But that's what most RVs have, so most RVs aren't
using their Onan to auto on orwhatever.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
They're using their inverter to do it.
Do you remember dry camping inCastaic?
It was dry camping Castaic.
We decided to little lake rightoutside of the pilot there in
Castaic, northern California.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Southern California, north of Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Right at the base, kind of coming over the hill of
the grapevine.
You come down the other sidebefore you, north of Los Angeles
, right at the base, kind ofcoming over the hill of the
Grapevine, you kind of on theother side before you go into
Los Angeles and parking Anyways.
So we went camping at a lakeand it was dry camping.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
That was Castaic, right?
Yes, y'all did dry campingthere, didn't you?
It was called Castaic Lake.
Is that the one that's outsideof LA?

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Just north, yes, just north.
Quiet hours.
So we ran that generator allthe way up until you had quiet
and then we opened up thewindows.
It was a little on a coolerbreeze and I prayed that it
didn't start up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
To charge batteries.
To charge batteries.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Before quiet hours ended.
We didn't make it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
We didn't make it.
Did you jump up immediately?

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
like no, yeah, I don't make it.
Did you jump up?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
immediately like no, yeah, I don't remember what we
did.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
I really don't remember, but I was mortified.
I'm like they're going to kickus out at 4 am.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Yeah, that is one thing.
That's one thing I actuallylike about the Comfort Pros.
That frustrates me with theDynasties.
So Dynasties, if you'relistening, make a note.
So the thing I like about thecomfort pros is that it will try
to fire up no matter what.
Yeah, if you have four volts,it'll give it a shot, yeah, the

(01:10:29):
dynasties.
If it sees like 11.9, I don'tknow what it really is.
It's probably not that low ornot that high, but it's like
nope, not even.
Not even to give it a shot, noteven to try it.
Your battery's too low.
Oh, that makes me so mad,because you know, but it's like
nope, not even going to give ita shot, not even going to try it
.
Your battery's too low.
Oh, that makes me so mad,because you know what?
It's a tiny little engine.
10 volts will fire it up.
It won't fire your truck up butit'll fire that little thing up

(01:10:50):
, but the dinosaurs won't evengive it a shot.
Oh, it makes me so mad.
I wish they would take thatprogram out, that program out,
Like give it a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Vince I'd say flew across the room, but all of a
foot and a half to the panel butboy when that thing first
started doing thechugga-chugga-chugga to start on
up, he flew across.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Were you in the lodge , or were you in the chalet, or
were you in Bagheera it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
was Bagheera.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
The very first one.
Them two.
So you mean he like reachedover Pretty much, pretty much,
probably, yeah, probably, butboy, we both were sound asleep
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
We had the windows open, so there was this nice
cool breeze.
You probably heard that, yeah,and that thing first started to
it was Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
And we were only a month in, literally, oh wow.
Maybe even less than a month inbecause we got home earlier
than we planned, but yeah, wewere literally a summer thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
But there were tent campers right next to us.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Again, it was dry camping, so they woke up too,
because if it was quiet outsideyou could hear it in a truck.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
The people across the lake probably heard us.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
The people in the tents were like and what can you
do except say back to them sothere it is, that's how they
f***ed us.
And it's funny because two dayslater we picked up a battery
from Cummins in the Los Angelesarea.

(01:12:22):
Yeah, we talked about Cummins,a huge battery from them, and it
was a box it may have beenmultiple batteries.
Took it up to an electricmotorcycle manufacturer in
Southern Oregon.
And that's the load that got ushome for Dalton and Anna's
wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Yeah, oh, wow, that's cool.
Wait, that doesn't happen veryoften.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I'm sorry Y'all were.
I thought Dalton and Anna weremarried before y'all came on
board.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
No, they were married a month after.
So we came on board on July 1st, yeah, and their wedding was
early August.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
And I had to either do no bridal party and a wedding
, or go to your girl's bridalshower and no wedding.
Vice versa, one or the other.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Oh, you got to go to the wedding.
Go to the wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Because they knew we were starting right away and we
knew the 21 days, or 75% of amonth, and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Did you have thoughts of, okay, we're going to have
to deadhead, yes, or was thereany thought of flying, or no?
Blah, blah, blah.
Did you have thoughts?

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
of okay, we're going to have to deadhead.
Yes, oh yes, there was nooption?

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Or was there any thought of flying or no At that
point?

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
it was just there was All the options were on the.
I think I'm still sounding alittle weird.
All the options were out therethey were, and then, when we
first started, we made sure welet staff know that August is
non-negotiable.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Not that that matters , but just knowing wherever
we're at.
This is how we got to get home.
Well, I think that's fine.
Because we had just barelystarted.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Yeah, I think it's fine.
I know a lot of people are likeoh, you know, we have something
right away and we feel badabout saying it or whatever.
But tell us, because we get,that your life didn't start six
months ago saying I'm going tobe driving a truck.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Like sometimes it does, but usually not yeah.
So I have started jobs beforewhere they've been like is there
anything we need to know?
And it's like yes, I have thesehard dates that I can't work.
After that, I will scheduleeverything around Sure.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
A new job.
A new job.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
But I've already got these things set in stone.
I can around, sure.
Well, y'all need me too, butI've already got these things
set in stone.
I can't do anything about it.
When we first started, we had atrip to mexico with some family
members.
Uh planned, and we told um, ourfleet owner about that that we
were going to drive for.
And uh boy, at day seven we gota phone call.
Why y'all not back in the truckready to go?
And it's like no, I literallytold you, going into this these

(01:14:40):
days.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
I would be in.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Mexico, like I understand it, doesn't meet your
policy.
The exception was made when Itold you about it before you
ever sent me a contract, so Ihave no issue with those.
It happens We've got lots ofteams that come on board and
they've got oh, I've got afamily cruise booked on these
days or I've got this, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
And a cruise.
You probably booked that wellin advance, Well in advance and
they're expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
They're a lot of money, so it's like, no, we get
that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Speaking of cruises, I booked a cruise today for
Sunday, so I'll be here nextweek.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
No.
I just booked it today, youtold me that you were going on a
cruise on Sunday.
I thought you meant like Sundayto like only on Sunday, like I
thought you were doing.
I thought you were going toCincinnati and getting on the
Ohio River.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Right To go up and down.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
I don't even do a motorcycle cruise.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
I've decided to go ahead and take the whole week.
Even though I'm taking thewhole week.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Well, you got to have travel time, right, yeah,
travel time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
I got to recover.
You got to have recovery time.
Laundry day Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Grocery shopping day Right, exactly, Exactly Well
you'll have so much company,being that Buttermilk's in
Oregon.
He's a bachelor, I'm a bachelorfor a week.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
It's been a fun week being a bachelor?

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Not really, I bet it has.
I thought we did thosemotorcycles.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
That's going to be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
That was fun, that was a good time, that was a good
time I loved that Well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
thanks for sharing about the generators or APUs or
auxiliary power units.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Yeah, you know I mean some of the stuff's boring.
I apologize for that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
I hope that we somehow Some of us find that
interesting.
Others will just fast forwardto Jerry telling us what we
missed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Jerry, if you want to learn how to push the button.
If you want to learn how topush the button.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
You are not allowed to cut any of that out.
You have this right here.
It's all you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
If you want to learn how to push the button on the
APU.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
He had an eyes-open nap going on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
If you want to learn how to push the button on the
APU call 833 Highfield, there wego.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
You can also email us at 833.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
No what.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
TheAderbellPodcast at gmailcom.
That's the one.
Make sure you hit the thumbs upbutton.
Hit the subscribe button if youhaven't already.
We have a lot of people thatwatch the show and listen and
have not subscribed.
So it not subscribed.
So, uh, it helps us out.
What if you didn't like theshow?
Um, I would prefer you to stillhit that thumbs up button, and
you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
go ahead and hit it twice, yeah hit the subscribe
button too, because we might getbetter or we might not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
So anyways, uh, any button you hit, interact with us
in the comments.
We'd love to hear what you haveto say, you can find us on
podcast too.
Yeah, you can find us onpodcast Anywhere.
There's a podcast out thereYouTube, Apple Podcasts, the
other ones that I'm not aware of.
You're all welcome.
We see your comments, we seeyour messages.

(01:17:33):
We read your emails.
We know where you live.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
Speaking of which I think it was.
I may be wrong, so don't quoteme, but I think it was Stephanie
Hampton.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
She said congratulations on being a new
grandma.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Oh, thank you, I saw that.
Yes, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
And if you are dropping us a cat emoji, we see
you and thank you.
I know who you are.
So no, we are.
I don't know.
We're all a bunch of tiredpeople today.
Some days were really funny.
Some days we have like thisepisode, but we wanted to get
this in here so we didn't missout on buttermilk.
I know it's already happened,but I'm very excited you get to

(01:18:12):
see your little grandbaby.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Next week you're going to have some photos to
drop in Cool Grandma sn.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
I have some photos to drop in Cool Grandma Snuggles.
It's very exciting Like thisone right here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
That one is a little inappropriate A little bit.
Oh, I could get him one.
Huh, I get all thispost-production and production.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Maybe I'll get one in there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
This one's my favorite.
I don't understand why you puta smiley face over his face.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Oh yeah.
Is that just like privacy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Privacy Privacy.
I get that, celebrity babiesand all, yeah, no, I get that, I
get that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
You'd hate to have your stalkers like drive the
Oregon Trail to try to find youknow.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
No, maybe they drive the Oregon Trail to try and find
her and they get dysentery.
They'll make it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
It's been a lot of fun.
Thank you all, everybodyhanging out with us.
Thank you for watching us.
We hope we got you a few milesdown the interstate or at least
a little laugh before bed.
Until next time, stay safe andmake good decisions.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Don't leave money on the table and keep those wheels
a-turning.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Good night, bye.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Bye, bye, we'll see you next time.

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