What Drives Hyfield's Fleet Decisions

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So you thinking active or passive?
I'm thinking active.
Ooh yeah, hey everybody.
Welcome back to the Outer Belt.
I'm Patrick and you all know myfriends Chili.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Buttermilk.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Eric.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Zucchini bread.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And Jerry, and what a week of events and excitement
it's been.
I'm so glad to be back here, soglad to be back on the Outer
Belt.
I've missed it.
I have missed it too and I knowyou're at home going missed it.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
You were just here two weeks ago.
Well, we did a little magic.
Well, we did a little magic andover the past few weeks, eric
and myself have been on theother side of the globe.
11 hours times difference.
I thought it was 13.
13 hour time difference.

(01:03):
I don't know math and Icompletely lost what I was
saying.
You were saying how you wereacross the grope the grope, yep,
or the globe.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
And it was a 13-hour time difference.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
13-hour time difference yeah, and we had
Jerry had to AI myself and Eric.
We would call in the show,right, and then Jerry would AI
us in for the past two episodes,and so we're just glad to be
back, and in person again.
It's much needed, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
Well, it's nice to have you back.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
Thankfully, jerry was able to master those AI skills
and put me here, because I'm nothere today, I'm dialing in
remotely as well.
You are, yeah, you are.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, and I said you know, can we do something about
the hair and makeup, Right?
And Jerry said no, it has to beexactly the way it would be if
he was here.
Yeah, so you know.
I tried to help you out, but Iappreciate it.
Yeah, nowissa's here, notstrange.
It is strange that melissa'shere.

(02:08):
Yes, yeah, melissa, how youdoing I'm good haven't seen you
in a long time it's been a hotmoment what's been going on?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
same thing different day, did a little exploring a
few weekends.
Uh, you know what we normallydo get out.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
And about New coffee shops, visiting coffee shops
that we've been to before togive them a second go-round, a
lot of coffee.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, some new places we've traveled.
Vince and I did take a jauntout to Maryland over Memorial
Day weekend.
That was really neat.
Got to spend some time with myolder son there who had just
moved.
It just was neat.
We did some exploring out there.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's right.
Was it the last episode, ormaybe the one before that?
He was actually here in studio?
Yes, he was On his way outthere.
He's moving out there for twoyears, for a couple years on a
job, and then he'll be able toretire.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, He'll be 38 when he retires.
It's not necessarily a job.
He's in the Navy, so it is ajob.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's a the Navy, so it is a job.
It's a job, and a commendableone at that.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah.
That's about it Other than that, answering the phones Monday
through Friday.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Nice, very nice.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Been doing some video recording with Jerry.
We went and had a little fieldday.
That was a lot of fun.
I thought it was fun.
Yeah, we went and had a littlefield day.
That was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I thought it was fun, so, yeah, very cool.
Well, zucchini Brett, I sawthat you just got back into town
.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
I did.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Where have you been?
I need a full report.
The sponsor of the show saidthat you missed a couple days
and that we need a report.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
A report that you missed a couple days and that we
need a uh, a report, a report.
So I got in my car and I drove12 hours back to atlantic iowa,
where my mother lives, and spentsome time with her, since I
haven't seen her since I movedout here in january nice well I
mean not not the not seeing her,but the getting the opportunity
to get an opportunity to goback um my, so my dad's sister

(04:26):
turned 80.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
So we had a big celebration for her.
So I also got to see a lot ofmy other family while I was back
as well.
So it's always nice to gettogether with the cousins and
family and rehash whateverybody's been doing.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, get the banjos out.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
That's actually more something that Jerry would do.
You're from Appalachia, right?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yep, get the banjos out.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, you were also just gone.
You went up to Minneapolis,right.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
No, no, we went to Michigan, michigan.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
That was close yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
This past weekend, don's youngest sister, her only
child was in his first soapboxrace.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Okay, what is a soapbox race?
I saw this on Facebook and Iknow y'all are probably sitting
at home going like he's an idiot.
He doesn't know what that is.
I don't know what that is, I'msorry.
I saw it online on the Book ofFaces, where you had mentioned.
You were there and all I couldsee behind you was like cones
set up or something.
I don't really know what youwere doing.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
So soapboxes like the , you know they're, I don't know
how to explain them, butthey're four wheels.
They're usually very slender,they're just wide enough in the
middle for usually a child tosit in and crouch down in to try
to get aerodynamic.
And they start you off at thetop.
You're usually on a hill, it'sall gravity-fed, so you come off

(05:54):
like a little ramp and thenrace to the bottom.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
So it's like Pinewood Derby, only with people in it.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
That's what I was just about to say.
So we did that at school.
It was Pinewood derby.
Yeah, with humans, are there?

Speaker 4 (06:08):
any crashes, there were a few.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
They they start off with the older kids.
Uh, they started the first andthen they went down to the
younger kids.
Um, he is seven, eight, I thinkhe's eight, uh, and this was
the first time he had ever racedand and unfortunately he did
not win.
Oh yeah, he was pretty bummed,but I think he had fun overall.

(06:30):
It was a lot of fun cheeringhim on and all that.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Did he have a theme to his car?

Speaker 5 (06:36):
They had sponsorships and so there was like local
businesses in the area and sothey put like their logos all
over the car and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Nice, cool, what and so?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
they put like their logos all over the car and stuff
like that Nice.
What material do they make?

Speaker 6 (06:50):
them out of Ivory.
It's actually the best.
Yeah, 99.99% pure.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Honestly, I don't know.
I know they have to make iteven for everybody.
They had to be there the daybefore.
They had to get the cars ready,so what they do is they put the
child in there, because everykid weighs differently.
So then, to make it all even,they add like weights around the
car and stuff, and they all hadto weigh 200 pounds.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
So they do that and get everything set up the day
before.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
And then afterwards do you, you know, a little
concrete in the front.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
And the kid wears extra stuff in there.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
They put on a diving weight belt.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
They show up like boxers going into a match just
down in their skivvies sittingon the scale.
They got the towels so peoplecan't see them and they weigh in
and they show up the next daylike they're going into the
Arctic.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
We told him to eat a big meal right before the race
to give him a little extraweight.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
Eat a big meal and don't poop.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Hold it in.
Hold it in.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
He had his practice run and he won the practice run,
but then the two actual raceruns he didn't win Is this
something he's going to careerwith continue on.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I don't know, does he have race car, race driver,
blood career with Continue?

Speaker 5 (08:04):
on.
I don't know it was funny,because when you watch them
coming down and then wheneverthey pass, it's almost like
you're sitting there and you'rejust like I think the fastest
one they clocked was like 18miles an hour, that's pretty
cool Speed McQueen right there.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I tell you that's lightning in a soap bottle.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
It was fun.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Did you then get to take it out after the race?

Speaker 5 (08:34):
No, no, no.
Would you have?
No, there ain't no way my bigbutt was fitting anywhere near
that.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know you said 200 pounds is what they all have to
weigh I'm like, so I guess Ijust take they put helium in my
tires the tires are like steelalmost, and they got like just a
little strip of rubber aroundthem, just enough for them to
roll oh, no suspension no oh,that's got to be fun.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
What 18 miles, and then they they have to get down
as low as they can to try to getaerodynamic and and then it's's
steer by wire.
They got like two little wiresinside there that they're
pulling to go left and rightLike a bobsled Kind of yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
No potholes.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
No, Okay good.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I could see Did the.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
Jamaican team win.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
No, it was the Somalian actually.
Oh okay, I could see the nextyear.
You know some kids at home andhis dad's playing the video back
for him.
He's like here you lifted yourhead Right exactly.
Two centimeters which, if youlook at the equation here,
equated to six seconds of dragyou did yourself.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
It was kind of upsetting because whenever he
come down off the ramp and hegot maybe a quarter of the way
down the hill you can see helooks to the left because he was
in the right lane.
He looks to the left andrealizes that he's already
fallen behind and he just kindof gave up at that point.
He wouldn't even try.
Oh poor guy.
So, what a quitter.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I know right.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Well, hopefully he tries again.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
I think he will.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Do they have like a circuit?

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah, whoever, we did not stick around to find out
who the winner was, becausethere were 72 kids racing, wow.
So once we realized he was out,we kind of because this all
happened.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
They walked over there, pat him on the head.
Better luck next time we're out.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
This all happened on Sunday, so I think we actually
left there at like 4 or 5o'clock in the evening and then
it's four hours back here.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
I just thought it was rude what you told him as you
were leaving and when you, youdidn't tell the kid but you told
Don loud enough he could hear.
We drove all the way here forthis, like that's just.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
His first race he was very depressed, like we
actually got a photo of himcoming around the corner and
he's just mad and you could seeit all over his face.
It's like the best photo ever.
But then the second race thathe did, he was better.
He was more of a sportsmanabout it.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
That's good, that's all.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Yeah, At that age it's hard to Hide the
disappointment.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
And that's what we tried telling him.
You know, like 72, 73 kidsracing and there's only two that
will go to the finals.
The finals are actually inAkron, ohio.
Really, when I don't know Roadtrip, I know it's in Akron.
Yeah, it would be fun.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
You could send pictures back to them.
You could be here.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
This could be you, but we already planned to come.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
We thought you were going to win Exactly, so we got
tickets.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
We tried explaining to him.
You know, like, out of thatmany, like there's only two
winners, like you want to have alot of people that don't get
through.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
You're going to have 70 upset kids and two.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
Exactly, and I think that played a part in it too,
because some of the older oneswho had been doing this for a
while they had already tweakedout their rods and changed
wheels up.
He had a brand new one rightout of the box, nothing done to
it and we think that could haveplayed a role.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Did they put the graphite on the wheels?
You've got to put the graphiteon the wheels.
You've got to put the graphite.
So I did Pinewood derby as akid, and oh.
So you know I'm not lying.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
I know you're not lying but my grandfather used
powdered graphite on my wheelsand then when I made it, I got
further on and I forget how farit's been.
40 freaking years, um, but the,the, the officials used a
liquid graphite, so it gummed upthe powder graphite and slowed
my car down.

(12:26):
Oh, yeah.
My grandfather was not happy.
I can imagine he was not happy.
I didn't know any better.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
I raced mine.
Most people, I think, racetheirs in some kind of youth or
kid club.
Mine was.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Boy Scouts, boy Scouts.
Yeah, wee Blows Something likethat, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
So mine was actually in the eighth grade.
We did a science fair thing atthe school and part of it was
Pinewood Derby racing cars and Iactually won.
It felt pretty good First time.
I wasn't a loser, so I just gotlucky.
I don't know what it was, Imean.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
I did put.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
So I just I got lucky .
I don't know what it was.
I mean I did put lead in it,but I got lucky and they didn't
have scales.
When I saw they didn't havescales, I'm like it's on.
It looked a little funny withthat.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
you know five-pound weight from the locker that I
just set on top of it and tapedit on.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
But you know whatever , yeah, there's no scale yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
My boys did it in Awanas through the church and I
believe David won for best paintjob.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Okay, Best paint job.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, his dad was a professional car painter so
these had DuPont paint on thecar so he won with with
prettiness, you know the shapeof the car and then whatever
color scheme he chose to do.
But you know he walked awaywith a little trophy and yeah,
you know, but it was all aboutwhere you put the weight.

(13:58):
You know I remember themhollowing it out and then
putting weight back in it.
I don't remember if it wasliquid or if the graphite was
used.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
I remember him sanding the wheels.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
That was something I thought was really super fine
sandpaper.
But he sanded all those littleplastic wheels just to take the
whatever.
I don't know what that did foranything.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
I think the wheels had a ridge around the middle
from the mold where they weremolded.
So you had to sand those downand make them smooth, so you
didn't have that ridge causingproblem when I'm going right,
exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, you know, tracking nice and straight, yep,
yep, that was fun times.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I had my car.
For a while.
Mine looked like uh, so I meanlike I was, this would have been
1997, 98, somewhere, 798?
Somewhere around there.
And when I did this, and backthen the hot car, the hot car,
the one to have was the FerrariF40.
I believe it.

(14:53):
And so that was like what waspinned up on my wall, like that
was the car to have.
Everybody loved those cars, andso that's exactly how I
designed my car.
I did the short pointed nose,the little cab.
Then it came down.
Then I had a little fin on theback which I realize now did
nothing for aerodynamics, andthen I painted it red because I

(15:13):
wanted it to like.
Really, mine did not have thebest paint job, mine had not
even Rust-Oleum Like.
If you ever go to Home Depotyou can buy like the.
It just says red spray paint 88cents it was that one Like if
you ever go to Home Depot youcan buy like the, it just says
red spray paint 88 cents.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
It was that one.
It worked.
It got you first place.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
It worked it got first place.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
It was all the lead and the paint that we that's
exactly what it was.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, I remember somebody's had a bathtub.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Like they had carved it out.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, and then they had like epoxy extra high layers
and then they had like littleclear balls in it to look like
bubbles, like a bubble bath, andit was a pink bathtub that they
Wow.
It obviously did not win foraerodynamics at all.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
But I thought what a neat we had one kid.
He would always do it up likean old-fashioned car, like with
the pipes and like really fancyit up.
Yeah, and he was going for thelike best to show instead of the
race.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
I couldn't tell you what mine looked like.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I think it's a cool transformation from a block of
wood.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
It is, it truly is.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
And for a lot of kids who get it like learning about
aerodynamics, learning aboutshapes and whatever that
actually make your car faster.
I remember people doing likepickup trucks and think about it
.
Then, back in those days, apickup truck was square, not
round, and so the trucks werejust like straight up over, up
over and it's like, yeah, thoseall didn't do very well.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
Speaking of pickup trucks, I saw a Dodge pickup
truck, a late model Dodge pickuptruck, on the highway today
they still make them, you know,I realize that.
But the difference, thedifferent thing here was that it
was a standard cab.
Oh yeah, it looked really weirdto me.
I'm like why?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
does it look?

Speaker 6 (16:50):
so oh, it doesn't have any extended cab on, it's a
standard cab, it's a two-seater.
Yeah, it was cool.
It's sorry, pinewood derby sosquirrel well

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I would have liked to have done the soapbox car.
I love racing.
You know you still can.
Red Bull has a whole series ofpinecone not Red Bull.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
Red Bull has a big adult thing where multiple folks
can be in the car.
I believe that's just calledracing.
No, it's their soapbox version.
No, red Bull does all kinds ofcrazy stuff.
Have you seen?
Oh, I believe that's justcalled racing.
No, it's their soapbox version.
Oh, no, red Bull does all kindsof crazy stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Excuse me, they shove you off a hill.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
They do.
It'd be fun, all right.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I think the reason why soapbox racing wasn't a
thing for me, eric, was it athing for you?
No, no.
Not soapbox.
I think in South Louisiana theproblem is if we wanted a hill
we'd have to push them off likean interstate ramp.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Like there was no such thing.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
We had no hills growing up in Louisiana.
It was flat, I mean like nohills.
I remember having to go intoMississippi to find hills, so
that wasn't really an option forus.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
I'm sure Lansing has hills yeah like they had the
ramp that they launch them offof to give them a little extra,
and then it was a downgraderight through the middle of town
.
But you know what I heard thatthey do here.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Is they actually take them out to the Columbus?

Speaker 5 (18:13):
landfill.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
And launch them off the landfill.
Launch them off the landfill.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
But they don't stop the trucks.
Right.
So they got to like weave,weave through the trucks.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
So it's Formula One meets Grand.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Theft Auto.
We found hills this lastweekend when we were out.
I thought that was in fact, wetalked about it.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Yeah, cool rolling hills, yeah I was like wow for.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Ohio.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
this is pretty mountainous, I'm totally air
quoting that, but yeah, well, itmakes me think of Dayton.
You think of Indianapolis toColumbus is fairly flat, but
there's two places there isright in Dayton.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
There's a huge valley , you go through.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
And then when you go right at the Ohio-Indiana border
or state crossing on I-70,there's that little movement
around of hills and then it'sback to flat again.
So you get a couple minutes ofthis is nice, and then we're
back to flat.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I think we were in the Miami Valley this last week.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
We were, so that's why it was the rolling hills.
I'd like to explore the MiamiValley some more, more towards
the Cincinnati side.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Because you know you go over it in the really tall
bridge.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Right, it's beautiful over that bridge, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
I want to try to like find parks or wherever.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
I think that'd be a great place to hop on the bikes
and go for a ride.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
The Brad Rovers.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
No, the electric mud bikes, the motorcycles oh, the
motorcycles.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Okay, that would be.
You're right, we need toresearch that.
Well, it sounds like we all hada wonderful time.
We were out.
If you're watching on Facebookwhich I think a number of y'all
do, because I see y'all commentEric and I were, of course, in
Japan, and that's where our13-hour difference was, and
that's where our 13 hourdifference was, and we had a

(20:05):
really good time.
Got to go out there for theWorld's Fair, which was in Osaka
it's Expo 2025 and Ours localscall it Osaka.
Yeah, that was weird.
I've always called it Osaka you.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I don't know Osaka.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, no, we had a number of people and we call it
Asuka.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Asuka.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
And them saying that in a Japanese accent.
It's like a double take.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah, we started out in Tokyo, went to a
couple little cities aroundMount Fuji, then went across the
entire island, got to see theSea of Japan and go to Forgive
me, I can't remember the name ofthe city and then got to go out

(20:52):
to Kawanaza, which is the citythat's famous.
It's like little Kyoto, so it'slike very old buildings.
We got to walk through theGeisha District.
We got to walk through theSamurai District buildings.
We got to walk through theGeisha district.
We got to walk through thesamurai district and see all
these really old, you know 100,200, 300 year old buildings that

(21:13):
were just beautiful.
That side of Japan didn't gethit during World War II and
they're famous for their gold,so everything's gold leafed.
It was really cool and got tosee just some really cool
temples and places, and part ofthe trip is you see a lot of
temples, kind of like when wewent to Italy, remember how many

(21:36):
cathedrals.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
There's a point where you're like I'm kind of
cathedral-bound.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
It was like that.
We got to a point where it waslike, oh my gosh, more temples.
So we did end up going to Kyotoand seeing that, which is
that's a really cool city.
Part of what's really cool isit's such a touristy spot, the
international presence like it'sincredible.
And then the second day we werein Kyoto, we went to Nara.

(22:03):
Now, Nara is special.
It's one of those places thatwe got really lucky to go.
There are wild deer everywhere.
Eric explain.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
They're not so wild, they're everywhere.
I think they had as many deeras they did people.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Not really exaggerating and there were
thousands of people it's a verytouristy area Everywhere and
they gave us these littlecrackers to give out to the deer
.
The problem is, once the deerfound out, you had the crackers.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
They wouldn't leave you alone.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
They wouldn't leave you alone.
So I am proud to say that Ihave been bitten by a Nara deer,
so have.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I so has.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Eric, wow Not fun.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
No, if you go back on our Facebook you'll see some
pictures of the deer and such,but it was pretty.
That was a personal Facebookpage, as that is, but that was a
lot of fun.
And then we got to see finallygo to another temple Again,
we're just like another temple,all right, and inside of it is

(23:12):
the one of the largestsculptures I've ever seen in my
life and it's a Buddha and it isis massive, the right word,
eric.
Yeah, huge, huge, gargantuan,gargantuan.
So he's sitting down Indianstyle like he does.
Or crisscross applesauce I don'tknow what the proper word is, I
apologize if I.

(23:32):
And he's doing his little handsup and hand down thing.
And he's huge, he's gigantic,they said.
If he was standing up he's thesame scale, same height as Lady
Liberty Statue of Liberty, likethat's how big he is.
He's friggin' massive.
He's got two little Buddhasnext to him like standing guard

(23:56):
and it was super impressive andit was one of those things where
it's like.
I am so glad I didn't say noLike because I have To the
temple.
Yeah, I have temple fatigue, butthis is like unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, it was very, very cool to see it and to get
the chance to kind of explorethat.
And then we left there and goaround the backside and there's
guess what More deer.
And they're so cute, the ladythat was with us.
She was talking about becauseshe lived in Nara.
She's talking about like shegets up in the morning and
she'll find deer just eating herflowers out of her flower pot
and all that annoying stuff orwhatever, and I'm like, ooh, I

(24:34):
can imagine that would be a bitmuch.
But yeah, really coolexperience, Very glad to have
that.
And then from there, where didwe go?
Hiroshima, yeah, I believe itwas Hiroshima.
I don't remember the order, yeah, which was unique.
As an American, you know goingthere, I can imagine we did find

(24:56):
out when we were there thatit's one of the places that has
the fewest number of Americantourists, Like there's a lot of
tourists that go but very fewAmericans will make the trip out
there, so that was kind of like.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I don't know.
I think she also said the oldercrowd did not want to go there.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes, they said it's mostly younger people that are
coming out, that are.
Americans that would make senseand I'm like I get that, but at
the same time, you know, Ithink by now we've hopefully
moved on.
But it was a very interesting.
You forget but it was a veryinteresting.
You forget the implications ofwhy it was bombed.

(25:35):
Just seeing a city that wasbombed and rebuilt and the
things they've chosen to notrenovate but leave as it was,
and to see what the damage was,it's shocking.
It's shocking To actually be inthe middle of it and then be

(25:57):
able to see all around of likethis was all just gone and to
see like that building is asurvivor, that building's a
survivor and that building's asurvivor, and then everything
else is gone.
It's a wild, very wild feeling.
It's also a very new city,obviously, but even more so than

(26:19):
like the 50s, where everythingwas rebuilt.
They're tearing down the 50sbuildings and they're building
brand new buildings today, soit's a lot of like very modern
2000s and newer architecture.
It's a lot of very modern 2000sand newer architecture.
It's a very clean city.
It's, I think, one of theprettiest cities in Japan we
were at.
Very much enjoyed our timethere.

(26:41):
It felt very American, as weirdas that is to say, Everybody
has a car, they have a greatpublic transit system, but it's
not anywhere near as used as therest of Japan.
And yeah, it was a really coolexperience.
That city had a train, car or atrolley A trolley, yeah, an
old-fashioned trolley, Kind oflike New Orleans, but a little
newer.
We rode that too, didn't we?

(27:04):
A couple times.
And then from there we went outto Osaka, did a couple tours,
food tours.
We did a soul food tour inOsaka and I'm like soul food, oh
, oh, A little different thanwhat we have, but it was so good
, so much fun.
I knew it was going to be agood tour too.
And she said our second stop isgoing to be a bar.

(27:25):
And I was like I'm in.
So, yeah, great time there.
Then we spent the rest of ourtrip going to the World's Fair
and just traveling country tocountry.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
What was your favorite booth?
I don't know what they callthem.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Pavilion, the United Kingdom.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Really.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yes, one of the best.
You'll never guess, one of thebest espresso martinis.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I've had the bar of bars.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
It really was UK for that reason.
But Saudi Arabia, which is aweird thing to say had a really
cool booth.
The way they built it, the waythey designed it, you felt like
you were inside of a village,like a rural, local village.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
It was very tastefully done, very nice.
That was the one that reallystood out to me.
But we went to a bunch.
We went to Germany.
Germany's was really cool, veryeducational.
Germany had this weird thingI've never seen before.
It was a little puppet and ithad a.
It's like a rubber ball.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Like a rubber ball, but it was a character, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
And green and red, Yep, and you would touch the
wall with it in certain spotsand then it had a little
built-in speaker that you couldput up against your ear and it
would tell you about whatthey're trying to get you to
know, so that you could listenin your own language at your own
pace.
I've never seen that technologyanywhere else before.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
It was very very cool , Eric.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
what did you think?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
My favorite was always Singapore.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Oh yeah, Singapore was nice.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Last time we went to a fair Singapore tapped in on
their greenhouse, their plants.
Of course I love gardening andstuff.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
They did the opposite this year.
They went completely white.
Yep Like wedding white,everything, everything.
Yep Like wedding white,everything, everything.
And then there's one part of itwhere the top of it they have a
green umbrella to represent onetree covering it was kind of
weird Interesting.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
It was but to stay on brand at the very end.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
They did have a garden area.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Was a garden area lounge that had a bar.
I will say that was one thingthat was very different than
being in Dubai.
Like Eric said, we did go toDubai in 2021 for their expo.
In Dubai obviously Muslimcountry very few places you can
get anything to drink.
They allowed it, but very fewplaces.

(30:08):
In Japan, at Japan, in Osaka,it was everywhere.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
In all the booths.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, like everywhere , Like you could just pop in,
grab a beer and just startwalking down.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
But they bring in their stuff from their country,
right?
They did yes, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
So we had a beer from Thailand, which Thailand's
booth was very cool too.
Thailand's booth at the World'sFair last time was also very
cool.
But yeah, we had a reallybitter beer from.
It was good they call thoseIPAs.
Kind of yeah.
It was a little different thanIPA but similar.
And then, like Germany, hadwhat's the one they're known for

(30:49):
, paul Pilsner.
And then, like Germany, hadwhat's the one they're known for
Paul Paul, paul, paul Paul.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Paul Pilsner.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
No, Paul Mincher.
I don't know what's his uncle.
Someone's going to write in thecomments like did you mean?
Whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
It's not Pilsner either, it's.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, that one.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Can't think of it.
And then Obviously there oneyeah.
And then obviously there'sAnheuser-Busch with Budweiser.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
There was they had a community area way in the back.
It wasn't even a building, itwas a large tent where they were
advertising different sake andJapanese sweet wines.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Oh, that was cool.
That was like a one-time littlefair they were doing.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
It wasn't even officially part of the expo.
They just put it up for alittle while and local breweries
, wineries, whatever, would comeand show off some of their
stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
And you couldn't buy anything.
They were just giving outsamples.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
That was pretty cool.
We just stumbled upon that,didn't even we weren't planning
on it.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Polliner.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Polliner, that's it.
Yes, polliner, yeah, and so wejust I don't know, it was a
really great show.
They had a really cool giantfountain thing like
Bellagio-esque, bellagio-esque,and they did a huge silver frame
and they would drop water likea curtain of water from the
frame, from inside the frame,and so you have the curtain of

(32:19):
water filling up the frame likea piece of glass, and then they
would project onto it thecartoon characters and then do a
show at night with thosecartoon characters on that
picture frame, with thefountains like the Bellagio
going off.
And then, at the very end of it, they did a drone show.
Yeah, massive drone show.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Oh fun.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Which those drone shows man they are getting.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
I thought the one we saw at the baseball park in
Cleveland was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, it was that technology's gone.
I'm curious where it's going togo next, because it's
definitely got interesting.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
And I've seen where they can even shoot fireworks
off of the drones.
Now Wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Exciting.
So that was it.
We came back, I got sick andthen spent a week feeling
terrible, but I'm better now.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I was going to ask are you feeling better?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Much better.
It was brutal for the past week, but it's all mostly gone and
you'll all be sick in themorning.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
No, we're not.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, melissa.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, I saw that article, you know, and when I
read it I just want you to know,they're not acquiring all of
Joanne's products.
So, yeah, we're going to talkabout Michael's.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Michael's.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Michael's, the craft store, oh yes, acquires Joanne,
because if you're watching theshow or if you're not, joanne's
fabric went out of business,fell bankruptcy.
But Michael's acquires Joanne'sbrands and welcomes all of
their customers.
So the further I dug into it,they've acquired the brand label

(34:00):
of joanne.
Yes, so not not all fabrics,not whatever, but the brand name
.
Uh, most of it is going to bethe rights to like Joanne's Big
Twist yarn brand line.
So most of it was like yarn, alittle bit of fabrics and some
sewing accoutrements, probablythread, needles, buttons, that

(34:23):
kind of thing.
But honestly, the more I readit, I didn't see a whole lot
that said they were going tostock up their fabric, which,
for me personally, that's why Iwent to Joanne's.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I did see in there so I have a couple thoughts.
I did see on there that theysaid that since Jo joanne went
out of business, their um onlinefabric searches increased 77
percent yep, and that um theyare now offering more than 10
000 fabric options online andthey are increasing the amount

(35:01):
of fabric they keep in storesbecause joanne's went out of
business yeah so I don't thinkthat had anything to do with
buying joanne's.
As much as they saw anopportunity, sure, they're
jumping on that opportunity.
I wouldn't be surprised if, youknow, walmart or some of these
other companies maybe increasetheir selection as well, hobby
Lobby, for example.
Sure, just to try to like.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Hey, we see a little gap we can fill.
Market.
Yeah, I did see where, thoughif you were to Google Joann's to
go shop on Joann's, becausemaybe you weren't in the know it
redirects you to the Michaelswebsite.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
Okay, yeah, Michaels did buy all of Joann's
intellectual property.
So things like the website andthe name now are Michaels.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Cool.
I wonder if you're going to goinside a Michaels store and see
their fabrics, have the Joannfabrics kind of thing.
You know how sometimes they'lldo that store within a store
concept.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
That would be a pretty slick thing for branding.
I do think it's interesting.
You know, it wasn't that longago a couple years ago that
Michaels themselves were introuble and having some
financial issues and I don'tremember if they did declare
bankruptcy or if they weretalking about it or what, but
they were definitely in a badspot not too terribly long ago

(36:13):
and to see them go from that tonow they're buying this
intellectual property.
I get they bought it pennies onthe dollar, but still Joint
Fabrics had a brand, so therewas a there's name recognition
there, absolutely, and therewere other companies that
probably were interested inhaving it too, so it wasn't free
.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
No.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
And they also said that they're adding what was it?
280 more stores this year.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Which surprises me.
I'm like that's a lot.
I'm really surprised thatMichaels has gone through the
transformation they've gonethrough and are growing so much,
which you know.
To them they're probably likewell, that was a huge competitor
and getting rid of them openedup all this opportunity where
maybe there wasn't enough demandfor two stores but now there's

(37:03):
plenty for one store.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
I was wondering if they're going to take over the
old Joanne's places, but that'dbe silly because they're like
within blocks of those already.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
They are yes.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
They'll have to go to different puppy towns.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yes, I agree it did say that they were going to
continue to develop some ofJoanne's Big Twist brand family,
including Big Twist Value PlusTwinkle Posh and Baby Bear Yarns
twinkle posh and baby bearyarns.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
So that was one thing I was going to ask is I have
not heard of any of these bigtwist brands.
I'm not a yard, whatever arethey are.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
They like a big, a big deal, because I've seen it,
not just this article that weall shared before the show, but
like I've seen it pop upmultiple times on my feed and I
don't collect yarn or haveanything to do with- it.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
There's a thicker yarn that I think they're doing
a lot of finger knitting, fingerwhatever, yeah outside it's
softer.
It is softer.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
It doesn't scratch your fingers as much when she's
doing her crocheting so shereally likes it From what I saw
in the stores.
I'm not a crocheter or knittereither.
That's kind of weird.
I mean you can get differentthicknesses.
They do have the bigger onesand then like regular size yarn.
And everything in between.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
But it's definitely a niche they have.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yes, those products will be available in Michael's
stores and online later thisyear, so it's something they're
all still developing.
It's that line of fabric, thebig twist yarn, yarn cool cool.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Well, I know that'll be good for a lot of people that
are still looking for more uhof those that fill that void
that they lost.
I am curious, too, if they'regoing to start carrying vinyl
and if we're going to find outlike in two months that.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Well, and I was thinking the same thing with the
tool, right?
Because, um, you know, I justwent and did my mad dash for the
birthday tutu and I don'tregret purchasing not knowing
that michael's was uh, andespecially if they do carry the
tool, if I can only get itonline.
Online, you know, you justcan't tell what you're buying.

(39:14):
So I don't regret going to thefive different Joann's the
months leading up to theirclosing to get what I needed.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
When I was at home, mom was going through her
material.
She goes I have over 10different colors of blue.
This is just regular materialfor just blue.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
And it's because, buying online, you can't see the
shades next to each other, soyou end up having to buy
something it doesn't match.
So you're like, okay, well,that matched this way, so let's
see if this one will.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
It is yeah, and I didn't want to risk that with
the tools this way.
So let's see if this one will.
It is yeah, and I didn't wantto risk that with the tools.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
so again, I appreciated joanne's well 75 off
if you, if you buy one of thoseum, is it patina?
Who's the company?

Speaker 5 (40:01):
pantone if you buy a pantone uh, kit, you can get
that perfect.
It's only what?
Twenty five thousand dollarsfor the homemaker kit.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
No, and it's not like we're not going to use the
vinyl, so I'm not really worriedabout that.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
And we have a discount.
Yeah, we already have used it.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Oh yeah, we did use it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
So well, that's interesting.
Glad to see that at least someof these things that are in
demand are going to live on.
Yeah, I just saw that.
You know speaking of storesthat went out of business.
I saw that Big Lots you knowwhich is a.
They're coming back which?
is a Columbus what Big Lotswhich originally I mean they're
a Columbus corporation that wentout of business and they shut

(40:41):
down all their stores.
They're coming back.
They got bought by anothercompany that does similar
closeout-type stuff and they'recoming back.
They've got a lot of storeslisted.
Columbus is not one of them,oddly enough, but I have a
feeling it's only a matter oftime before they do come back
over here.
Hmm, yep.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Is it going to be called Big Lots it?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
is Same logo, everything they say the stores,
will be laid out Next to GuitarCenter.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
That building already still has the logos up it's
inconvenient guitar center.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
That building already still has the logos up.
It's inconvenient, right, justbuy your old leases Probably get
them dirt cheap because they'relike oh yeah, we got no one
else for them.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I am from yourself.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
You know, the last time I was in Michael's,
probably a year ago, I thoughtthey were going out of business.
Their store was so empty.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
So it will be interesting to maybe go back to
a Michael's see what they looklike now.
How full they were Again, Ithought they were literally
going out of business.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Well, they were in, like I said, a couple years ago,
they were in hot water.
I know this past Christmaswhich I mean now we're talking
seven months ago I had I boughtsomething or had something or
whatever, and I had to send itback to whatever company I
bought it from.
I don't remember the details,but they sent it to me via a UPS

(42:01):
return label and I was underthe gun.
I had to get it back and I'mlike how am I going to get this
back.
The UPS store had already closedor whatever.
And I was looking online and itwas like Michaels, you can
return it back via Michaels.
And I'm like that's thecraziest thing I've ever seen in
my life.
You can return it back viaMichaels and I'm like that's the
craziest thing I've ever seenin my life.
But I went there and sureenough, they were like here you

(42:22):
go, here's your receipt.
And I was like this is crazy.
And Eric and I were there, sowe walked around the store just
to kind of look and see whatthey had, and I don't know what
we were looking for.
Oh, I knew it was little beadsfor a jar, but I remember
walking through there then beinglike this is the only Christmas
you have, right, like I wouldhave thought you've had so much

(42:44):
more Christmas stuff than thisand it kind of surprised me then
.
But I don't know, sounds likethey're doing well, well enough
Good for them.
Cool, Well, real quick.
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(46:03):
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Speaker 6 (46:06):
Well, this year, during the Indianapolis 500
NASCAR race, they did theinaugural.
Am I saying that right?
Inaugural.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I believe it was Inaugural, yes, inaugural.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Wienermobile race A Wienermobile.
We've all seen the Oscar MayerWienermobiles.
Yes, it's a great big wiener.
It says Oscar Mayer.
On the side it's a hot dog.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Right, it's a hot dog , it's a hot dog.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
yeah, yeah, so they actually did a race with all six
of their.
There's six of them.
There's six of them.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I thought there was just one.
I only thought there was onetoo.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
I'm like who knew there were six Wienermobiles?
I think there was only six,what I figured there'd be more,
yeah.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
Do you think there are six of them?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Do you think they're only ones in Indiana?

Speaker 6 (47:02):
Do you think?

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Fleetwood's just making wienermobiles like every
day, like every state orsomething.
No, they're regional.
They're regional, there's onlysix regions in the.

Speaker 6 (47:06):
I've always for oscar meyer.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
They were only six regions.
Yes, well, how many are therefor um, uh, hebrew national?

Speaker 6 (47:13):
I don't know um, I really, yeah, I only thought
there was one.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
If you ever saw the elusive Wienermobile, life was
going to be pretty spectacularout over the road, but now there
are six of them.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
When I was a little kid, the Oscar Wienermobile
showed up at the Hondadealership.
They were doing a come by theHonda dealership, yeah, and they
were doing a like come by theHonda dealership and you know,
see the Wienermobile and get afree hot dog and buy a Honda
Accord.
You know how they do Right, andyou know $19,000 hot dog.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Well, let's be honest Back then it was probably
$14,000 hot dog.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Probably yeah.
And so I remember going therewith my dad and I was so shy, I
wouldn't like get close to the,I wouldn't talk to anyone, what
I just saw it for a distance andI was like no, we're good.
I don't need to get any closer,because I was just so
intimidated by these people andthis wonderful like, because up
until the time you see one inreal life, it's really just

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almost a figment of yourimagination.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
It's like Santa.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Claus, it doesn't really exist.
And then when you actually seeone, you're like, oh my God it
really exists.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
I actually saw one when we were on the road.
She was sleeping.
I'm cruising along the highwayI forget what highway it was on.
I was in an interstate.
Cruising along and I review amirror.
I'm like what the hell is that?

Speaker 4 (48:38):
And it turned out to be the Wiener.
Rebuild your rearview mirror.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
Sideview mirror.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Okay, I was just curious what you said you were
driving.
She just fucking hauls all overthis story, right?

Speaker 6 (48:50):
It's all in my story.
In my sideview mirror I seethis thing oh yeah, because
that's how fast I can go with 65.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Correct, I'm not bitter, not bitter at all the
Wienermobile you always bring itup every single time we're
together.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
Passed me, passed me.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
The.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Wienermobile was able to go faster than me and I'm
doing 65.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Again, not bitter, not bitter.
You got passed by Oscar Meyers,oscar.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
Meyers, oscar Meyers.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Oscar.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Meyers, wiener passed me.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
Yeah, yeah, and I didn't get any pictures because
I was driving, of course.
Hence free laws, no pictures.
Yes, that was pretty dastardly.
It was pretty cool to see.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Great memory.
It was pretty cool to see.
So what's this on the highwayIn?

Speaker 6 (49:33):
Indianapolis, so they actually had a race.
Yes, Of six Of six.
So on the last day ofqualifying, so they put them up
on the top of the hill, let themroll down.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
That's how they got to 70, apparently it wasn't even
the mobiles, it was actuallyjust the hot dogs rolling down
the hill.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
Yeah, so on what they call carb day at Indianapolis,
500, which is the last dayFitting.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
With our sponsors.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
It's the last day of practice before the actual race.
They had all six of them out onthe starting grid the drivers
of the Wienermobils, theirrecent college graduates.
They have to apply for this job.
They were all dressed in racesuits that represented their
particular Wienermobile.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Oh cool.

Speaker 6 (50:18):
And they had a race and yeah, it was kind of cool
to-.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
How many laps did they do?

Speaker 6 (50:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Oh, I'm sorry, I don't know, we just caught the
highlights.

Speaker 6 (50:28):
That's okay.
First place, the 27-foot-longwinning bus was represented by
the Saucy South.
It was represented by the SaucySouth.
It was driven by grill masterMatthew Bailey of Madison,
georgia, and Mustard MaddieMyers of Kirkwood, missouri.
I love it.
A quote from Mustard MaddieMyers after she said I must

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admit I will relish this momentforever.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I love it.
I love it, mustard Maddie, itwas really cool.
The name of the Wiener Revealwas Slaw Dog.
I love it.
I love it.
Mustard Maddie, it was reallycool.
The name of the Wiener Revealwas Slaw Dog.
Slaw Dog, so they have sixdifferent dogs.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
They have New York Dogs from the east, slaw Dog
from the southeast, chili Dogfrom the south, chi Dog from the
southwest, seattle Dog from theNorthwest and Sonoran Dog
represents the Southwest.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Is that Chi Dog like Chicago Chicago?
Yeah, but what are they ChiTown, Chi Town yeah.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Yeah, so that's from Chicago, so there's a link.
This article is from USA Today.
There was a link in the articleto a Fox Sports rebroadcast or
live broadcast of the race, andI watched it.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
And.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Totally underwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Oh yeah, well, you see the problem is when they go
value.
You're doing like this yeah,exactly, you're barely moving
your head.
They clocked it.
They were going about what?
18?

Speaker 6 (51:54):
miles an hour, yeah, 18 miles an hour Fun fact.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
The Wienermobile, or the hot dog-shaped vehicle, has
been around for almost 90 years,dating back to its creation in
1936.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Isn't that crazy.
I watched a thing on theWienermobile back in the day and
they used to be like back inthe 70s and 80s.
They were built on Oldsmobilecutlass chassis.
Wow, if you ever wondered howheavy-duty your Oldsmobile
cutlass from the 60s and 70swere, they could support a

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Wienermobile.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
It said, the original Wienermobile was a 13-foot
metal hot dog on wheels, firstcruising Chicago and promoting
Oscar Mayer's German-stylewiener.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
That's pre-air conditioning, that's one hot
wiener Right Mobile Jeez.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Open all the windows 90 years.
Who knew, isn't?

Speaker 1 (52:49):
that crazy.
I wonder if they're going to dosomething special in 10 years
for the 100.
I bet they will.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
I bet they will.
Oh yeah, let's be there.
We should be there.
You know what?
These are 27-foot long.
Currently they're 27-foot longWienermobiles.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
That's almost doubled .

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I think they should do 100-foot long Wienermobile.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
They should.
They should with articulation.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Yes, and a tillerman in the back.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
And they should go through the.
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
That'd be sweet.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
What a fun article.
Yes, that's very cool,Absolutely have you seen the
Wienermobile out over the road?

Speaker 1 (53:21):
The what.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Masking our viewers.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
No, what did you call it If?

Speaker 3 (53:24):
they've seen the Wienermobile out over the road.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Let's go back to the tape.
I believe it was pronounced.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
The Wienermobile the.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Wienermobile.
So where have you seen it?

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I've seen it out on the road, once when I was
driving, and then also me andDon seen it in New York City.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Did you see it in New York City?

Speaker 5 (53:40):
Yeah, did it pass you too.
No, we were actually there on atrip and we were at Rockefeller
Center and it was parked.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
No, I mean, when you saw it on the road, did it pass
you?

Speaker 5 (53:52):
No, it was going the opposite direction, so it did
pass you.
It did pass you.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Jeez.
So it's time to get back to theHighfield Chronicles.
As we teased out last episode,we've had a lot of people ask
about the things we do, why webuy the trucks we buy, why we

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work with the manufacturers wework with, why we use the
sleepers we use, etc.
Etc.
Etc.
And today we're going to talkabout why does Highfield demand
Detroit?
Why, I'm glad you asked, why dowe?

Speaker 6 (54:30):
demand Detroit.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Well, so as a kid I grew up knowing that the
absolute best engines made asdiesel engines are, of course,
caterpillar.
And you know something aboutthat big yellow block like old
school Peterbilts.
Crank that hood.
You don't want to see it,cummins.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
No.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
You don't want to see it.
Detroit there's something aboutthat yellow At the truck show.
Remember that big yellow.
Caterpillar engine.
It's just cool, man.
The Caterpillar's been aroundforever.
They made some great, superhigh-powerful engines.
And when Eric and I first gotstarted in this business, we
drove a truck with a CaterpillarC11.
Bulletproof engine, I promiseyou.

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You could have undone the drainplug, let all the oil out.
We could have ran 1,000 miles.
That baby was bulletproof.
It did not like freezingweather we did have a problem
with that, but bulletproof,great engine Loved it.
Good fuel economy, yada, yada,yada.
So Eric and I did the sensiblething and we actually bought as
our very first truck aCaterpillar-powered Kenworth, a

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Caterpillar-powered Kenworth.
And that Caterpillar was theC-13 Acert.
Now, for all of you out there athome, you know in 2008, the
Caterpillar C-13 Acert wasarguably the worst engine ever
built of any manufacturer at anypoint in any time ever.

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And it wasn't the engine, itwas the emissions control system
attached to it.
So the Caterpillar C-13 hadwhat's called an ARD head Still
gives me chills talking about itHugged up to a DPF filter.
And the ARD head wouldbasically, they would take um

(56:19):
diesel, fire it into thiscombustion tube, superheat the
exhaust.
Uh, they would fire it throughthe art head, superheat the
exhaust to burn off a deep pffilter to like.
So the dpf filter would cleanthe air as it's leaving, but
eventually it would get dirty.
So this art head would do thisprocess and it would clean the

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DPF filter and burn all thosecontaminants up to just ash and
it would just come out of yourtailpipe and it would be fine,
much safer than dieselparticulates getting in the air.
And this thing was just anabsolute nightmare.
You couldn't keep them running.
They were constantly breakingdown.
We got to a point.
These art heads are expensive.
We got to a point where we werereplacing the art heads every

(57:08):
year.
It was just maintenance, justreplace it.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
It was crazy, and so we at that point swore off
Caterpillar.
But we didn't have to make thedecision for ourselves because
that engine combined with theC15 were so bad.
Caterpillar said we're done,and they never made an engine
for on-highway use after that.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
This engine was so bad.
It put a company.
They didn't put them out ofbusiness.
Caterpillar is still a greatcompany.
It's huge.
They just said we're not doingthis anymore, we're leaving this
market, you're leaving thismarket.
So they quit selling those.
So when we bought our nexttruck, we had to figure out what
are we going to do?
What are we going to buy?
Right?
So we ended we ended up with aFreightliner and it had a
Mercedes-Benz diesel engine init and I thought it was cool.

(57:58):
Man, you prop the hood of thatthing and on the side of it was
Mercedes-Benz with that bigtriangle logo thing and it was
like.
I think of it more as like thePizza Hut center cap.
Sure, you know that keeps thecover box from crushing on the
toppings, anyways.
So we bought that cool engine,that thing not bulletproof, but

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really, really good, veryreliable.
Had some great success withthat engine, did have an issue
with the water pump once, butoverall that engine ran great
and very happy with it.
But Mercedes-Benz did the samething Caterpillar did In 2010,.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
I want to say.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
They said the emission systems have gotten out
of control.
We're not going to build enginesfor America anymore either.
So it's like crap.
What do we do?
Well, the good thing is wedidn't think.
Mercedes-benz, who ownedFreightliner at the time, they
actually, several years prior,purchased detroit diesel from

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general motors.
So if you're familiar withdetroit diesel, it used to be a
general motors company.
As crazy as that is, theyactually started this company
when general motors foundedelectromotive, which was a
company that built trains.
General Motors back in the daythey wanted to get into the

(59:22):
train building business.
They built this thing calledElectromotive and they needed an
engine manufacturer to buildthe engines for them.
So they started Detroit Dieselfor that purpose and they built
train engines.
And then, you know, you gotWorld War II, you got lots of
stuff.
That happens over the years.
General Motors ends up buildingtheir own Class 8 trucks.

(59:45):
Used to be able to buy a Chevyor GMC big 18-wheeler you can't
anymore, but you used to be ableto and oddly enough, they ended
up selling their division toVolvo trucks.
So they ended up selling theirdivision to Volvo trucks.
They ended up becoming Volvos,but they kept Detroit Diesel.
And back in the 90s I believe itwas the 90s Freightliner or not

(01:00:05):
Freightliner, but Mercedes-Benzbought Detroit Diesel and so
when all the emission stuff andeverything became such a big
deal, what Mercedes-Benz did wasthey said, all right, for this
American market, we're not goingto give them a Mercedes engine,
we're going to give them aDetroit diesel engine.
So they made Detroit back thenmade a Series 60 engine, which
is a great engine.
If you've ever seen one or hadone in your truck, they're

(01:00:27):
awesome.
Fitzgerald used to make theglider kits.
They used to put almostexclusively Detroit diesel
Series 60s in their trucksbecause they're so good.
But they took that company thatmade that engine and they said,
all right, you're going to makethe new American engine for
Freightliner trucks.
And, by the way, here's a goodstarting block which spoiler

(01:00:54):
alert was a Mercedes-Benz MBE4000.
So the engine that we alreadyhad is the engine that
Mercedes-Benz gave DetroitDiesel and said all right, we're
going to take this and we'regoing to modernize it to the
American standards.
And that became the DD13.
They enlarged it a little bit.
That became the DD15.
Made it one size bigger.

(01:01:15):
That became the DD16.
And so all three of them sharedthe same emissions standard,
just different block sizes.
Detroit Diesel DD13 is a 13liter, the 15 is a 15 liter, 16
is a 16 liter.
So that's how they got startedand that is why Detroit came up

(01:01:36):
with the sizes they have andthat's how they got the block.
So all the people that are likewe love all the engines Detroit
made prior to 2009, 2010.
They have nothing to do withthe new engines.
This is all German engineering.
Mercedes-benz designed all thisstuff for Detroit and so when

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that happened, detroit Dieselsaid all right, we got this
really cool engine that's superreliable.
If you're going to buy it,you're only going to get it in a
Freightliner or a Western Star,because that's the company they
owned.
Mercedes-benz owned.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
Western Star and Freightliner.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
When Eric and I got ready to buy our next round of
trucks, we were buyingFreightliners, so we ended up
with the DD13.
And at that point there's onlytwo other options.
You could do an internationalengine Navistar.
I have three other options.
You can do an internationalNavistar engine.
Maxforce engines those aregarbage.
If you've heard anything abouta MaxForce, look it up.

(01:02:38):
If you've heard anything abouta max force, look it up.
If you don't know what I'mtalking about, they're just
god-awful engines.
Um, volvo had their uh d13 andtheir d15 d16, so it's very
similar, but volvo's a europeancompany, mercedes european
company.
You see them yeah they all kindof doing the same thing.
And then you had um, cumminsand cummins and Cummins had the
ISX-15, and that was their bigengine and over the years we saw

(01:03:02):
what happened was that Detroitended up being a more reliable
product when you start talkingto people about reliability and
uptime.
Cummins had issues.
Again, international was atrain wreck, volvo close
competitor so much of a closecompetitor that we actually
bought a Volvo and tried it andwe had a lot of issues with it.

(01:03:23):
So we ended up not going thatdirection.
But we never tried the Cumminsbecause there's enough
information out there abouttheir reliability and you can
see it in their warranties.
Like if you buy a truck with aCummins engine and you can see
it in their warranties.
Like if you buy a truck with aCummins engine because you can
get a Freightliner with aCummins engine, you can get a

(01:03:45):
Peterbilt, anything with aCummins.
When you look at theirwarranties, they don't even
stand up behind them as much asthe other manufacturers do.
So Freightliner will extendtheir warranty to 650,000 miles.
Cummins will not.
They're like that's too far.
We don't trust our engines thatmuch so to me that's very
telling, right, sure?
If you don't have enough faithin your product to stand behind

(01:04:09):
it, why would I want to?

Speaker 6 (01:04:10):
right, long term, long term, yeah, and this is not
a vehicle you're only going todrive 100,000 miles and sell.
You want to run it for amillion miles.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Absolutely, and so with extended warranties, you
can extend a warranty for aDetroit diesel out to 750,000
miles.
You can do a Volvo to 700,000.
Okay, and then a Cummins capsoff at half a million.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Oh, that's a big difference.
That's a big difference.
A Cummins caps off at half amillion.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Oh, that's a big difference.
That's a big difference.
And International Max Force.
So that engine was so bad.
Talking about Caterpillargetting out of the business,
that engine was so bad.
International dumped it.
You could only get a Cummins intheir product for several years
.
And then Volkswagen Groupactually bought international
trucks.
So if you buy an internationaltruck today, it's built by

(01:05:00):
Volkswagen.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
If you open the hood.
It's got that round.
Vw logo on the side.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Yeah, but you have to , you know, put it in the back
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
So when Volkswagen bought them, they brought their
own engine to the market,another engine they had in
Europe.
They brought it to America.
They designed the emissionsystems for it to meet American
standards and so now you can buyan international with that
international engine.
Paccar, who owns Kenworth andPeterbilt, they've done the same
thing.
You can now buy a Kenworth orPeterbilt with the PAC car

(01:05:35):
engine.
That is actually built by them.
But they cheated.
So PAC car, if you buy aKenworth or Peter built, you get
a PAC car engine which is an MX13 or an MX 11.
Um, they actually have a Cumminsemission system on it.
Interesting, they just sentCummins or engine and said clean
it up.
And then Cummins designed theclean it up and then come and

(01:05:59):
design the emissions and put itin the truck.
So a little bit of a cheat ontheir part.
But you know, whatever it'sstill good.
Um, but again, all those half amillion mile limits.
So when you look at that, um,reliability from a long,
long-term perspective, themanufacturer standing behind
their product uh, we've, I'vereally fallen in love with that.
Detroit Diesel stands behindtheir product.

(01:06:20):
We have actually had a cashtraffic failure and had to get
one replaced one time and theydid it.
Nobody out of our pocket got abrand new engine, not a
remanufactured engine, a brandnew engine.
Really long service intervals.
So we do ours at 50,000 miles.
Our oil changes PMs.
They can actually stretch alittle longer than that.

(01:06:43):
I won't say exactly how muchbecause I don't want people
doing it, that's in our fleet.
But they do go a little bitlonger than that.
So really long serviceintervals Because, jerry, you're
old enough to remember back inthe day you were getting them
every 25,000, 30,000 miles,25,000.
Yeah, jerry, you're old enoughto remember back in the day you
were getting them every 25,000,30,000 miles 25,000.
Yeah, our first truck was 30,000.
That's a lot of old changes.
Over the course of a year,50,000 means you're doing one

(01:07:04):
maybe to a year, which is reallycool that you're able to
stretch that PM service.
As long as it is and it'sreliable, that 50,000 miles is
good for 750.
You know we've had 750, 800,000 mile trucks in our fleet
with no problems.
You know, leave.
And then the other thing that Ilove about them is, um, they are

(01:07:28):
, uh, lots of service centers.
So with detroit diesel, everyfreightliner shop, every western
star shop in the country is aDetroit diesel shop, right?
So if you do break down lots ofoptions for serviceability, uh,
daimler Trucks, which ownsthose two companies, really,
really impresses upon theirdealership network of service

(01:07:50):
and flipping trucks and some ofy'all that are in our fleet.
Listening this, you're like man, I don't believe that, because
we were at a shop for two orthree days and they didn't get
us in.
That, you know, whatever ittook them that long, we've had
ken, worse, a few of them now atthis point and we've had volvos
, and waiting in line for a weekor more, yeah, was not uncommon

(01:08:13):
right to get a truck beforethey even looked at the truck,
yes, or they might look at itand go.
This is the problem.
We'll see you in six days.
Yeah, like to go from that tomost dealerships.
Flip our trucks within one tothree days.
That's night and day difference, yeah.
And then also beyond those twoshops, you've got independent

(01:08:36):
Detroit Diesel shops.
So Detroit Diesel has been acompany so long.
They're actually a group ofDetroit Diesel authorized
dealers all over the countrythat are not Freightliner,
they're not Western Star andthey can actually operate on
those or operate.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
How many of your mom-pop places-ish?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Some are, but some are.
Stevens Sons is huge.
They're the ones.
Stevens Sons are the ones thatused to import the Unimogs.
Do you remember the big, hugeMercedes-Benz Unimogs?
Six Wheels, off-duty, mammothBeast?
Stevens Sons brought those in.
It's a huge company, same withUnited Engines, same with
there's a few of them, same withUnited Engines, same with

(01:09:15):
there's a few of them that arehuge dealership networks, but
they are on the engine side,they're not on the truck side.
So you have even more optionsfor services, right?
So Cummins kind of has the samething.
Most dealerships will work onCummins and then Cummins also
has a dealership network, sothey would be like a close
second.
But when it comes to the, theproprietary brands of volvo

(01:09:40):
international and pat car, whichis kenworth, peterbilt, you are
limited to those dealershipsand even to the point we're on,
uh, peterbilt and kenworth.
If you have a kenworth and yougo to a peterbilt shop to get
your pat car worked on they, alot of times they'll just flat
out decline you, wow, like yougot to go to a kenworth
dealership we don't't want tolook at, even though it's the
same engine and we have theskill and the ability to fix it,
we're not going to.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
So, when you factor all that in, it just made sense
to stick with Detroit, and theyhave been such a reliable,
long-lasting product.
Yes, we have issues withsensors and we have issues with
death pumps.
They all do, every brand doesbut those are so minor in the

(01:10:24):
scheme of things.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Not like.
I had a buddy of mine.
I had a Cummins and had aproblem inside the engine and
they had to.
The dealership went through.
They removed the gasket cover,took a bunch of pictures, sent
it to Cummins.
A couple days later Cummins gotback and said you need to take
the head off and look at this.
They took the head off, tookthe pictures, sent them the

(01:10:47):
information.
A couple days later Cumminssent them the okay, you need to
remove the third and fourthcylinder.
Do that.
Okay.
A couple days later, like ittook them almost a month to get
them to fix the engine becausecummins warranty is very like
we're going to go through allthese steps to save cummins
money because they don't reallycare about your uptime, whereas

(01:11:07):
daimler trucks has built theirfreightliner, western star and
detroit diesel platforms ongetting you in and out and back
on the road working fast and yousee that so much with the way
they treat us in our trucks,sure, and how quick our turns
are at shops.
Again, I know when you're inthat situation.
You're sitting at the shop andyou're on day two or day three.
It's like what's going on.

(01:11:28):
But having been there with allthese other brands, it is not
like that.
In most cases, those othercompanies are dragging it out
for freaking ever because theydon't care as much as Detroit
does and as much as Freightlinerand Western Star does.
So that is the reason we demandDetroit.

(01:11:49):
That is the reason we havethose trucks.
That's why you don't seeKenworth Centerfleet or
Peterbilt's or Volvo's orInternational's, why you don't
see Kenworth Centerfleet orPeterbilt or Volvos or
Internationals.
Does that mean that's all we'reever going to have?
No, because we're always goingto test out and see the latest
gadget.
And if we hear some really goodwords, like I will say this
there's been some really greattalks about the new engine, the

(01:12:11):
S13, from International Of allplaces.
I know you're like oh them, butwhat Volkswagen has done has
been some really great things.
There's some really greatreviews out there from companies
that have thousands of thesetrucks.
They're giving us thoseinformation.
Maybe that's something we tryout at some point I don't know
when.
I don't have any orders in.
We're not even talking toInternational, but they're on

(01:12:34):
the horizon, we see them andwe're paying attention.
We're not stepping out anywhereyet, but at some point we might.
For now we're a Detroit-onlyfleet.
Every one of our trucks has aDetroit diesel engine in it DD13
, 15, or 16, depending on thetruck.
I've just been really happywith them for the years.

(01:13:00):
I mean, jerry, have you heardanything other than a Detroit?

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
The Mercedes.
I had the Stoops, the purpleone that we had with the blades,
and I had the Mercedes engine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Similar sound too, isn't it Like?
When you fire them up, theyjust sound the same as a Detroit
.
That's one thing If you've everbeen around a bunch of trucks.
If you fire Cummins up or youfire Caterpillar up or you fire
Detroit up, they all sounddifferent.
There's just something aboutthe way they time them, or
whatever.
The DD13 and a MBE4000, theysound the same.

(01:13:33):
It's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
I never hear you mention Mac and I don't know why
.
I see that.
What is that kind of engine?
So, Mac, which is a truck?
Right, it is a truck.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
They do Cummins, but Mac is owned by Volvo.
Oh okay.
So Mac has their own version ofa Volvo engine.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
I see.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
So it's kind of cool because, Mac is mostly
vocational.
So what they've done is they'vetaken the Volvo engine the D13,
and they call it M13 orsomething like that and they've
changed some of the parameterson the Mac to give it maybe more
low-end power or more power ina dump truck configuration, or
something like that.
So it's the same engine but itis tuned differently, so it does

(01:14:17):
respond differently.
But it's the same engine but itis tuned differently, so it
does respond differently, butit's literally the exact same
block.
They come off the assembly lineside by side.
It's just which color paintdoes it get Right?
And they are say have the samewarranties, all that stuff.
And they do.
Actually, mack actually has ahigher power version of that

(01:14:39):
engine than what Volvo does.
But again, mack, you see Mackdoing heavy hauls and pulling
giant things.
They need a more powerfulengine.
So yeah.
So Mack and Volvo are kind ofthe same umbrella.
What about Hino?
So Hino used to be.
They've never made a class 8truck in America.

(01:15:00):
Right, they are owned by Toyota.
So they're owned by a veryreputable company, ud trucks.
Have you ever seen UD?
That's Nissan.
If you've ever seen Mitsubishitrucks, that's Mitsubishi.

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
That tracks.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Yeah, but I know they actually quit making engines a
couple years ago and they onlyuse Cummins now.

Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
We'll see if we can get a couple of those and start
a small Amazon delivery fleet.
I could see that yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I could see that you might want to consider Isuzu as
well.
Isuzu is another company thathas gone all Cummins, my buddy
Joe used to work for them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Yeah, yeah, joe Isuzu .

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
He did their ads.
Yeah, Joe Isuzu Cool.
I went to high school with thatguy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
I tell you what's crazy we were in Japan.
Every truck was Isuzu.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Yeah or Hino.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
I believe it or Mitsubishi or UD that was it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
It was like Four choices.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
And they were chromed up and they were Class 8.
They were big heavy duty truckswe don't get here in America
but they were chromed up.
Eric, you remember some ofthose trucks were like Fancy, I
mean like shocking.

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
Because in.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
America Isuzu is kind of like a ho-hum delivery truck
.
It's reliable, but there'snothing fancy.
They have these big giantchrome front ends.
They have gorgeous trucks, butyeah, those companies, they've
all discontinued because of theemissions laws.
So yeah, on the medium-dutyside, so we're talking class 7

(01:16:35):
and below.
Cummins owns that market,everybody.
Detroit still makes their DD5and their DD8 for now, but
they've been slotted for theexecution block at some point.
They're not going to make themanymore.
But yeah, it's so expensive todevelop an engine that meets the

(01:16:56):
EPA standards the ones thatwere just slashed.
So we'll see what happens.
But everybody, just, it'scheaper just to buy a Cummins,
and the 6.7 liter Cummins, thesame one that's in a Dodge
pickup truck, turns out it'sgood for Azusus and good for
Hinas, anyways.
So that's why we choose demand,our demand, detroit.

(01:17:19):
What, uh, what engines do youlike?
A lot of y'all out there,you've driven lots of trucks
over the years.
Which engines have you beenfans of?
Maybe older ones that theydon't make anymore?
Maybe new stuff that you know?
Maybe you're a volvo fan andI'm not, and maybe you're a pack
car fan or something like.
We'd love to hear it, love tosee your comments.
Um, cherry is there anythingwe're forgetting?

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
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