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July 22, 2025 50 mins

Beyond Burnout: Rehumanizing Cybersecurity with AI | The Pair Program Ep66

In this episode of The Pair Program, we dive deep into the real challenges facing cybersecurity teams today. Our guests: William Macmillan, Chief Product Officer at Andesite, and Lucas Moody, SVP & CISO at Alteryx, bring sharp insight and a human-first perspective to one of tech’s most pressing issues: burnout. They explore the urgent need to protect not just systems, but the people protecting them.

Topics we cover:

  • Why burnout is skyrocketing in SOC teams, and how to reverse it
  • How AI can support analysts instead of replacing them
  • The role of curiosity and creativity in modern cybersecurity
  • Why junior analyst roles are more essential than ever
  • The shift toward decision-layer tech built around the human
  • What’s next for cybersecurity talent and team building

Whether you’re a cybersecurity pro, tech leader, or just curious about how AI is reshaping critical infrastructure, this one’s worth a listen.

About William Macmillan: William is the Chief Product Officer at Andesite, where he sets the vision for building human-centric security tools. Previously, he served as SVP of Information Security at Salesforce and as CISO at the CIA, where he led a major transformation of the agency’s cybersecurity operations. A U.S. Air Force veteran, William brings experience across intelligence, counterintelligence, and supply chain risk.

About Lucas Moody: Lucas is SVP & CISO at Alteryx, where he leads global information security strategy and operations. With a track record of building and scaling cybersecurity programs, he has held senior security leadership roles at Twitter, Rubrik, and Palo Alto Networks. Lucas brings deep expertise in security engineering, threat intelligence, and incident response, and has led global security teams across North America, Europe, and Asia.

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