July 27, 2025 — UFO Contactee Ella LeBain - The Paracast — The Gold Standard of Paranormal Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
You're in the para Cast, the gold standard of paranormal radio,
and now here's Gene Steinberg.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
So on this.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Episode of the Paracast with Gene and Tim, we're going
to bring on a guest who hasn't been here before
and thus she's not aware of what she's in for,
but we'll do our best to work with her. Ella
Labain has written a number of books on her paranormal
encounters over the years. Recently, for example, there's the Cosmic Slingshot,

(00:55):
Connecting the Dots to reincarnation in the Bible, alien abducts,
end times for prophecies. Hello, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh thank you for having me, Tim and Teene.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
So specifically, what got you into all this?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, I'm a seeker of truth. Had to figure out
a lot of stuff because of my upbringing. In my childhood,
I lost my mother when I was six years old.
I was an only child, so I was vulnerable to
a lot of different supernatural entities and experiences. I was

(01:37):
born in New York City to an Orthodox Jewish father
and an Italian Catholic mother, so I'm a hybrid. I
carry both sides, both families. They're both just as crazy
as each other hot Italians and Jews, so it led

(01:57):
me into searching in the Bible. When my mother died,
my father remarried a Jewish divorcee. I acquired three stepsisters
older than me, so I became a true life Cinderella.
And at the age of fifteen, they sent me to
Israel to get an education and I came back with Jesus.

(02:20):
That started about forty five years of issues. Yeah, Jews
don't accept Jesus, but I saw him, so nobody talked
to me about it. Nobody handed me a track. He
just literally walked out of the sun light three o'clock
in the afternoon in the Negev Desert in July of

(02:42):
nineteen seventy nine while I was laying in the sun
reading a book, and he said, I am the Messiah.
Follow me. So I was pretty gobsmacked and shocked. I
was eighteen and a half and so I did. One
thing led to another, and I ended up in South

(03:04):
Africa for two years and I had a lot of
paranormal experiences there. There's so many things happening there. And
this was in the early eighties, before the end of
a part Eate. I witnessed many signs wonders, miracles and
prophecies that were being spoken over the land. I had

(03:28):
three visas renewed. On the fourth one, the US Embassy
said I had to come back to the States to
renew it. And that turns out was the hand of
God protecting me from what was about to come down,
which did the end of a part Eid and the
riots in the streets and the curfews. So I was
saved from all that. I was back in New York

(03:49):
City looking for the same type of spiritual revival that
I witnessed there. I witnessed someone be raised from the dead,
completely healed, I witnessed all kinds of healings and miracles,
and I was looking for the same thing when I
went back to New York, and unfortunately, I found that

(04:11):
New York was a spiritual graveyard. The spirit was just
not moving there. So I got disenchanted and went to
different churches and wondered why they treated me differently. And
I really wasn't guided about any of this stuff, and
I realized it was anti Semitism. So I stopped going

(04:31):
to the church and I became an astrologer professional astrologer, So, yeah,
I've done a lot of work looking up at the stars.
So I'm sort of a ven diagram at least that's
what my therapist calls me, because I have a foot
in each camp. As an astrologer, I was trying to
get astrology. You know them to look at UFOs and

(04:53):
you know, you look up at the sky and there's
a lot to see there. I entered into astrology through
my astronomy degree, because when you're studying astronomy, you can't
ignore the fact that astrology came first, and it was
the language of the stars. And I was fascinated by
it and fascinated with the beings that came from the stars,

(05:16):
fascinated with ships that I was seeing in the desert.
They all said, you can't have one, you know, you
can't be this if you're going to be that, And
I'm like, why not. So that's really the basis of
my book series is connecting all those dots to the stars,

(05:36):
the language, the ancient scriptures, the missing pieces of the Bible,
and how that all relates to our present situation with
what I call the alien presence, because they coexist with
us here on Earth.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Just parenthetically, where in New.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
York, on New York City I was born in Queens
and grew up in Jackson Heights and Farmingdale, but I
ended up living in Flushing.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Ah, Flushing, I had some relatives there. I grew up
in Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Oh, well, so we're practically neighbors.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh yeah, I hear you say it. Yes, we are
practically neighbors, almost vaguely, mostly Brownsville and East Flatbush areas.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh, I'm familiar with East Flatbush.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
At the age of twenty. We moved to New Jersey
at the age of twenty when I got into broadcasting.
That's many thousands of years ago. Now you mentioned being
someone who grew up as Jewish. Now being a Jesus follower.
Are you familiar with the name of an evangelist named
Lewis Kaplan?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
No? Sorry, who who is he?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
He was that he was someone who evangelized for Jesus
but grew up Jewish.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh it was Jesus.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I worked for them for like two years in Manhattan
in their Manhattan headquarters. I learned a lot. You know,
Jews for Jesus is not a church. They're an evangelical
organization and their teachings are still relevant today because they
come to Christian churches to teach Christians how to talk

(07:25):
to people. So that's a very worthy thing.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
He was he's long gone, a member of something called
Jewish Voice.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh yes, I am familiar with Jewish boys. But I
didn't know him.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, he as I said, he was my wife's uncle.
But we bring up UFOs. We bring up UFOs because
I remember visiting his home. He was living near Phoenix,
Arizona at the time, back in the eighties, and his
wife gave us a book about UFOs, a fiction book
where the UFOs were demonic and you have to recite

(08:03):
the Lord's prayer to get them to leave.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Mm hmm, well, yes, that is definitely a huge piece
of this.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
So having been abducted was that by Ufo by demons? What?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, and that's that's kind of like what I was
working on in my first book, which took two decades
to publish, was who are They? Who are these beings?
What happened to me was from the age of two,
my first memories was that my parents used to find

(08:42):
me upside down in my crib with nosebleeds, and that
memory kind of stuck in my consciousness because they would
talk about it. Oh, here we go again, or we
got to change the sheets, the bloody sheets, you know,
all that kind of stuff. And as I was, you know,
you know, usually you don't have your first memory until

(09:02):
you're three, but somehow this kind of stuck because I
ended up with this little bb sized implant that was
put into my right nostril, and it bothered me as
a child. And I remember like sitting on my mother's
lap trying to get her attention, what is this, what's

(09:25):
going on? There was something in the back of my neck,
there was something in my nose. I grew up with
all kinds of allergies. I was allergic to just about everything.
And it wasn't until twenty ten, February seventh of twenty ten,
I'm really fast forwarding my life here that I ended

(09:47):
up with a heart attack.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
We have Ella, we have Gene, we have tim. You're
in the par cast.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
This is Michah Hanks of the Gray Leanerpot and you're
listening to the para Cast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
So Ella, in the previous segments, you said you had
a heart attack at a rather tender age.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, actually it was twenty ten. I was I was
almost fifty forty nine, so.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's still too young.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, yeah, Well it was a result of trauma, and
cortisil was actually caused by cortisol poisoning because I wasn't sleeping.
And you know, when you go through trauma, your adrenal
glands pump out a lot of adrenaline, and then when
you're out of adrenaline, it goes into the cortisol, and
then if you don't sleep, you don't replenish, and too

(10:56):
much cortisol causes the heart to stop. So that's what
happened to me. And I was rushed to the hospital
and my husband was there with me, and I blacked
out and I saw both my parents. Now I told
you my mother had died when I was six. My
father passed in two thousand and seven. Even though I

(11:16):
was estranged from him all those years, we did talk
on the phone the last ten years. So I saw
them both together, and that was the first time I
saw them together since I was six years old. So
I thought, oh my god, I must be dead. Then
this hand took me and literally carried me over to
this bright emerald green field with a bluebird sky, and

(11:40):
I looked up and I saw it was Yeshua, and
I recognized him, and I knew you like I've known
him forever, and he was the most familiar spirit to me.
And we walked and we talked, and he said, I
was writing this book about the aliens, discerning and identifying
who the ets and the aliens were. And mind you,

(12:03):
I told you I had already sort of strayed from
the churches. I got disenchanted with the whole church scene,
but I never stopped believing in God or who he was.
I mean knowledge. You don't like undue knowledge. You know
something and it stays with you. So he basically said
he was going to help me get well and everything

(12:24):
was going to be okay, and he wanted me to
rewrite my book about the Ets with him in it.
So I did, and it's turned into seven books. And
he I realized that that experience, I had a lot
of downloads and it's taken a long time to process

(12:44):
and publish them. So that's that's what happened in twenty ten.
And here we are in twenty twenty five, and the
seventh book was released in May. So and I have
two more comings. So you asked about, you know, the
demonic thing and how saying the Lord's prayer, and that's

(13:05):
a huge piece of this is discerning who these beings are.
And what I was shown in the nineties was this
is a clash of two kingdoms on Earth and one
is very is very ancient. It goes really like way
way way back. And then there's been all these different
genetic manipulations of humans on the earth. So a lot

(13:31):
of this has to do with our DNA and what
the Bible calls all these curses genesis. You know, when
the curses were doled out during the Garden of Eden.
Back in those days, people lived to be in their
nine hundreds. The oldest living man, Methuselah, was nine hundred

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and sixty nine. Then the floods of Noah came and
people didn't live past eighty or ninety. Our telomeres go
up to one hundred and twenty and most people are
lucky if they lived to be in their eighties. So
something happened in between there was a genetic downgrade of
the human DNA, and so this is where some of

(14:16):
these ancient texts come in. Like my friend Zachariah Sitchen,
who I met in nineteen ninety five, I was back
then I was doing interviews and I sat down and
interviewed him at a one in a lifetime conference. It
was called When Cosmic Cultures Meet, and it was in Washington,
d c. Over the Memorial Day weekend. And I was

(14:39):
fascinated by his work. And if anyone doesn't know who
he is, he's the author of the Earth Chronicles, which
is twelve books unpacking discerning translating the Samerian tablets the
canea form. And he was a Jewish. He knew five

(14:59):
line languages fluently, so he was able to decipher and
decode and how the Samerian tablets dovetailed, or actually gain
more detail of what happened before the Bible in the
Book of Genesis. In fact, his book Genesis Revisited talks

(15:20):
about all that. Anyway, I studied him, met with him
a few times. He came here to Colorado and did
some lectures. He's passed on now passed on in twenty ten.
So you know, there there's been a lot of attack
on him and his work. And you know, I'm a researcher.
I'm a retired paralegal. So I've taken my research skills

(15:44):
and applied it to unraveling this mystery. And one of
the things about research is and researchers is like it's
like a baton race. So when one person lays the
ground as Sitchen did, because you know, even though he
quoted some things that someone else, Lawrence Gardner did back

(16:04):
in the late eighteen hundreds nineteen hundreds, didn't have the
same kind of notoriety as Sitchen did, and he sort
of layered on top of that. And then I have
taken you know, you got to eat the meat and
throw away the bones, so to speak. And I've taken
parts of his research and I've expanded on it, and

(16:26):
kind of like the baton race, that baton I just
felt like this needed to go in another area, and
particularly about the DNA and how Sitchin talked about how
the Onunaki, which were these beings, these giant beings, these
human giant beings, and some of them were reptilian human

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humanoids that came from a place called Nibiru, which is
a planet that intersects into our Solar system approximately every
thirty five to thirty six hundred years, and that they
came to Earth and created humankind. So somehow that just
never sat well with me that they created us. So

(17:11):
I went a little deeper into the research with the
original biblical text. And that's something that Sitchen turned me
on too, was like the word l oheim, for instance,
which in Hebrew means God's plural with an s, and
how the English Bibles do not translate the Hebrew accurately.

(17:35):
So I've unpacked all that with the names. So my
second book, Who Is God, is basically the unraveling and
unpacking the caste and characters of gods in the Old
Testament that have been completely glossed over and covered up
through mistranslation and not using the right you know, like

(17:58):
whether it's a plurality, you're singular. It's all singular in
the English, which is what confuses people when they read
the Bible and they go, wait a second, God said this,
and then God said that that's a contradiction, And how
could I believe in a God who contradicts himself? And
you know that old saying, the Devil's in the details.

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The truth is in the details, and the truth is
that they're not the same gods. And they covered up
the names of the gods, they covered up the plurality,
and they made everything singular lord God, which isn't even
a name their titles, and so when you see it
from that context, it's a whole different story. And it's

(18:39):
a cosmic drama so over us, over the real estate
of Earth, over our DNA. And that's where I came
to the conclusion and distinguish myself from Sitchen's work, is
that the Ananachi did not create us, and I prove
this through the scriptures, but that they genetically manipulated and

(19:02):
downgraded us more than once. That relates and connects the
dots and confirms the curses which I unpack. You know,
it's like spiritual legal ground as above, so below it's
hermetic philosophy. There's quarts in heaven, just as there's quarts
on Earth, and we're in the middle of this cosmic

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drama over you know, who gets to rule the Earth,
who gets to have the Earth? And the Earth is
a very special planet as far as planets go, because
not only do we live on the surface of the Earth,
the surface of a planet, we have this you know, magnetosphere,

(19:44):
which by the way, is cracking up. But that's another conversation.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
We'll continue this conversation in our next segment with Ella
with Gene and Tim.

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Speaker 3 (20:21):
So once again, Ellen, what did you say? Was cracking
up for you to move to another topic?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
The magnetosphere besides everybody else just a joke, But yeah,
the magnetosphere has cracked. There's multiple holes in it. This
has been going on from the past ten years, and
that is very significant, Okay, And it's and it's scary
because this is what's causing the climate, the warming, the

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climate change as well as we're in the middle of
a poll shift. So the Book of Isaiah in the
Old Testament, chapter twenty four talks about the end times.
There's a lot of end time prophecies in both Old
and New Testament, and this one says that in the end,

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the Lord is going to turn the earth upside down.
So that's Biblical vernacular for pull shift. And there's a
whole lot of other things that it says, you know,
that people are going to be shaken off kind of
like a dog shakes off fleas, you know, barring that
phrase from George Carlin, that there is going to be
earth changes. And so when I tried to connect the

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dots to what the Samerians told us, because they left
us a lot of information about Nibiru, and also the
Colbrin Bible, which is all about the when her Cobalis
and Neberu. It has many names depending on the culture. Okay,
so Naberu was Samerian, her Cobylis is Greek. You know,

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most of the astronomers in our past century have been
calling it planet X so X you can say X
is the X factor. X is number ten. And one
of the prophecies in the Book of Daniel talks about
a time where they change the times, that an Antichrist

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figure an Antichrist. I call it the Office because there's
multiple Antichrist that belonged to it, that they change the
times and the seasons, and that has already happened because
of our calendars that got changed by the Church of Rome,
which you know we call the Gregorian calendar that we're

(22:42):
on today. It was changed from the Julianki, which was
the star calendar. And then there's all these other calendars
that have solar and lunar, and you know, the Jewish
calendar is solar and lunar combined that are much more
astronomically accurate. The Gregorian calendar has absolutely no astronomical relevance.
So that was done by design to get people off

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of that. It was a control mechanism. It was a manipulation,
one of many. So there's been all these cover ups,
and I can go on about, you know how they've
been keeping this information, this knowledge from us, and it
all comes together and gets dovetails into the end time prophecies.

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So when like, for instance, Yueshua when he said I
am coming back at the end of the age, he
was making an astronomical and astrological statement. That age he
was referring to was the age of the processional Age
of Pisces, and that's what we're still in. We're finishing
it up, and the age to come is the Age

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of Aquarius. And the last time our planet went through
an age of Aquarius was during the times of Atlantis
and Lemuria. So some of this stuff is coming full circle,
all right, and it's kind of like a resolution or
another you know, experiment to see, you know, we're going
to get it right this time, and all the stuff

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that happened in the past is repeating. You know, there's
nothing new under this then. So the hybrids, the genetic manipulations,
the transhumanism, whether it's coming from turning robots into humans
or turning human humans into robots, both sides are happening.
And you know, we live in interesting times to see

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all this be fulfilled.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
We live at interesting times. That's always a prophetic statement
in itself.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Isn't it.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
Yes, indeed, I'm curious. You were talking about your personal
experiences starting when you were very young. Do you know
and and I realize you know, like you know, due
to what happened with you in your family when you

(25:02):
were little. Do you know offhand do you have any relatives,
you know, mother or grandmother on either side, who also
may have had similar experiences and abilities that you find
that you have.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Well, I would say yes to the first part of
your question. I know that my mother did because of
what my aunts told me, you know, growing up. After
she died, they kept her memory alive with me. So
and I found out that the implantation, So I was
abducted by the grays. Okay they were gray beings, but

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you know, in my abduction experiences, which went on for
several decades, I found out years later, which is why
I could talk about this now that the nasal implant
is specifically used and there's a book about this. Cold
up your nose is specifically used for the hybridization program,
which is exactly what I ended up in in my

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pre menopausal years. Okay, so hormones play a part on
this because you know, and our energy so like we
can't see most of us cannot see our true selves,
which is this big egg shape light body that is
you can call it our soul, our light body or

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energy field. And you know, because of the downgrade of
the DNA, like we went from twelve strands to two,
they basically gave us enough intelligence to follow orders, do stuff,
get stuff done for them. This was about creating a
slave race on Earth. So it's no coincidence that Yeshua

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said when he was on the Earth, I have come
to set the captives free. And this was reiterated in
Isaiah chapter sixty one and Luke fourteen. Who are those
captives that would be us? And one of the promises
is that he was going to restore. He is going
to restore all things, all of creation. It says, all

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of creation moans and groans for the redemption of the Lord.
And that includes the animals, all of us, and some
of these alien beings too, because the story about the
fallen angels, you know, there's a Christian term, but they
were men. Every time angels showed up in the Old Testament,
they always appeared human, mostly men. One incident was a female.

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And there's this ongoing battle over the form, the human form.
So the grays come in. They're servants, they're not in
charge of the program. They're ordered to do certain things,
and they answer to another race of beings, who are
the reptilians who live inside the earth. They've been here

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from millennia and they don't come up to the surface
because they're ugly, they're scary, and they're human beings. Worst nightmare.
So they send the ubiquitous, lily putian looking grays that
people have now accepted as aliens, and those are demons
by very definition of the word. So linguistics plays a

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role in understanding, unpacking, and discerning all of this, because
the Greeks had a word called damon daemn, which literally
translated to intelligences, So that's where we get the English
word demon deemn. And a demon is an entity, it's
not a spirit. There's a difference between spirits and entities.

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And yes they may have evil spirits on them, that's
another layer of it. But these are entities and those
are who the grays are. So that's where people said, oh,
the aliens are demons, and I get this all the time,
and I'm constantly trying to help people with discernment and
also to prevent them from having another form of bigotry

(29:12):
on all aliens in general. So like, for instance, how
Christians will say this all the time, all aliens are demons,
and so I've written a lot about this. People who
will get up it's a free blog. All demons are aliens,
but not all aliens are demons. And this is kind
of a dangerous form of bigotry because it basically throws

(29:34):
the baby out with the badness. That means that anything
that's different than us, they're all demonic, and that's not true.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Ellie, you're raising a lot of certaintys that I want
to explore as we continue. There's a lot of ground
to cover here, Ellen Labine, Geen Steinberg, Tim Schwartz.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
You're in the Perca. This is Chris Ritkoski and this

(30:11):
is the para cast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
So, Ella, you speak with lots of certainties about things,
and we'll go back to your initial experience seeing what
you assume to be Jesus Christ. How do you know
that image of what you saw, the communication you had
with it was authentic and was as presented.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, that's a great question. Well, I have seen him
a total of seven times in my sixty four and
a half years of life on earth. So I recognize him.
I hear his voice, and everything that has happened to
me has happened to others as well. Thank God, I'm

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not alone. This and even the words of Yeshioh, it's written,
it's written, It's written down, not only in the scriptures,
it's written in the stars, which I connect dots to
because the original Gospel, the original words of God, as
you know, the word of God is written in the stars.

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God named the stars and each star is like connecting
dots into getting the bigger picture of the constellations. The
Hebrew language is a cosmic language. It's a language of physics,
and each letter represents a pictograph of the twenty two
major constellations. You can't make this stuff up. So when

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you connect the dots to what he originally named the stars,
the constellations, and the galaxies in our Milky Way galaxy,
the whole universe, it's all there. It's been written down
on Earth through these scriptures that unfortunately many of them,

(32:06):
about one hundred books were rejected by the Church of
Rome when they canonize the Bible. That doesn't mean that
they don't exist. Some things have been burned and taken
away or hidden. But what we do have is we
have all this information and when you piece it together,
it tells a big picture. So I guess that's where

(32:28):
my certainty or faith comes from. Is corroboration. Like I said,
I'm from the legal field, and one of the things
that we do is pieced together corroborating evidence to prove
certain things or to prove truth. So that's what I've
done through astronomy, through the scriptures, and through history, and

(32:50):
it definitely tells us a story that has unfortunately been
suppressed and hidden from most people because of the Church
of Rome. The Church of Rome is a big plays
a starring role in the end time prophecy. So just
put this in a nutshell. You know that old saying

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Rome wasn't built in a day, but it gets destroyed
in one. But before it gets destroyed, the Church of Rome,
which is now called the Vatican which in Latin literally
means divining serpent, named after the goddess the serpent. Goddess Vaticanus,
is playing a very big role in end time disclosure.

(33:33):
They want to lead the narrative and they've done a
number of things since World War Two by putting this
into their church doctrines which I've published, so you know,
they've changed a lot of things. Replacement theology. Constantine's Creed
start at three twenty five AD, and these are things.

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This is the age of Pisces. You know. Pisces is
the two fish, one in one direction, one going the other.
And it's also called the Church age, and it's also
called the Age of Christ. Even though the Aquarius is
more accurate to describe who you shue it is because
he said I am, you know, I have the living waters,

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and the Aquarius is that sign of the man, you know,
the water bearer. So there's a lot of connection here
with the stars that were created way before Earth got
any kind of written anything, before the scriptures were published
or written on Earth. So I find it fascinating I

(34:37):
connect the dots because it corroborates the truth. So that's
that's why I maybe I come across as having some
certain sense of certainty. There's things I know, what I know,
I don't know what I don't know, you know, so
I can only share what I know.

Speaker 6 (34:53):
A lot of people look at astrology and the kind
of shake their heads, but of course they're basing that
off of you know, modern pop astrology that you get
from the newspaper articles and stuff like that as well.

(35:15):
Some don't realize the connection that astrology has with ancient Mesopotania,
the Middle East and the development of the Abramic religions.
And I mean all they all played together hand in hand,

(35:39):
and that's really been forgotten about now.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Very true. Yeah, totally agree, And that's what's coming together
at the end of this age, and that's what is
going to get resolved through the end time, the final
end game and wars and everything that is pretty much

(36:04):
planned like a script is unfolding because for so many reasons,
you know, God is letting all this happen to play
out because it's not just about us, It's about the universe.
So this is the dot I connected is that? Who
are you know? Why my fourth book, Covenance, it basically

(36:27):
is my humble attempt to unravel the boils of racism
and anti semitism on this planet. And this is pervasive
through our history. So why is that we're all human?
Why can't we all get along? Why can't we all
come together as one? And we will in the age

(36:48):
to come when and that is also called the Messianic
age because that is the plan. But before that, all
this stuff has to get played out. So I thought, well,
why everybody so different, you know? And that's when it
led me into the biblical narrative about the different seeds

(37:09):
that are on Earth. So that fallen Angel story, when
the two hundred sons of the Sons of the Gods
beneha Elohem came to Earth through Mount Hermann, an ancient
space portal came in. They're named in the books of
Enok all right there, Each one of them are named.
They all had different roles. They taught humans all kinds

(37:34):
of things, including one of them, Barachial, taught astrology. So
you think, well, astrology goes way back, and yes, I
agree with you. It has become corrupted, you know, used
for entertainment purposes and people have completely lost its true meaning.
And so besides all that, they took wives, and they

(37:56):
didn't just rape women, they took wives and married them.
And that's a spiritual legal ground, the convenant of marriage,
because that gave them birth rights to have children on earth,
and that those bloodlines were started a long time ago
and they're still happening now. And that dovetails into the

(38:21):
alien hybridization program. Okay, because like I said, I'll just
tell you what I know. What I don't know, I
don't know, but what I do know is that they're
creating a race of alien human hybrids. This is what
the abductions have. One of the reasons for the abductions.
There's a few programs that they're creating a race of

(38:43):
alien human hybrids to replace us, a race that is
going to you know, be spacefaring because let's face it,
as humans can't really survive that long in space, right,
I mean, look what happens to these those two astronauts
that was stuck for nine months. They're still recovering. So

(39:04):
that's one level of it. Another level of it is
to basically take over the planet, and there's a lot
of nefarious conspiracy theories related to that.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Let's continue. You guys have a bunch of questions. Obviously,
the problems with space travel not so much about the
weakness of the human body in handling space travel, but
the weakness in scientists and politicians to properly present a
space program and allow it to undergo the normal advantages

(39:35):
with all the politics. What we were able to do back
in nineteen sixty nine, we can't do much better now.
But we do have Ella, we do have Tien, we
do have gene. Isn't that true? Can tell me anyway?
You're in duperrigos.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Hi.

Speaker 7 (40:07):
This is James Fox, director of the Phenomenon and Moment
of Contact. You're listening to the para Cast, the gold
standard of paranormal radio.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Ell. I want to talk about a bunch of things
that you've raised because you have all these certainties, so
you've seen this Christ like figure seven times lucky seven
and all that stuff. How do you know it's what
they claim to be. I mean, any entity could say
I am Christ, follow me, or I am worthon from Venus.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
That is a great question and very valid. And it
also you bring up a point that actually is one
of the end time propheciesk to you about that we
just put park that for a minute. Is that one
of the end time prophecies that Jesus said he you know,
to the disciples, is that in the end times there

(41:09):
will be many false Christs and they're going to say, hey,
you know, there he is. There's Christ, he's in the desert.
Follow him, follow him to lead up to the ultimate deception,
which is the counterfeit Messiah, aka the final Antichrist. So
that is a very good question because we are living
in an era where we are being called to exercise

(41:34):
our muscles of discernment. So discernment. There's spiritual discernment, which
is a gift you know, from the Holy Spirit. You
got to ask God for it. And then there's discernment
intellectual discernment where you're able to discern the words. And
what I've tried to do is put it together in
my books because words matter and linguistics, and you know,

(41:59):
you got the Tower of Back which was a type
of a curse on humankind to confuse everybody through all
these different languages. Yet you have the Holy Spirit coming
during Pentecost and gifting everybody with the ability to understand
those languages. So that's like a supernatural gift. How someone

(42:22):
can either speak or understand a language that they never
learned intellectually through a spirit, through the Holy Spirit, that's
totally supernatural. So with all that said, you can take
that same spirit of discernment and apply it to who's
who in this cosmic zoo? Who is the real Messiah?

(42:44):
In my book, I have a chapter based on an
old TV show from the sixties, Will the Real Messiah
please stand up? Remember to tell the truth? And they
all there was like a panel and there were three people.
One of them was the real person and the other
two were actors pretending to be And you know it
was about like who can tell the difference? We are

(43:05):
in that type of exercise now, and if we can
integrate and understand history because history repeats itself, and if
we can turn on our spiritual gifts, you have not
because you asked not, So we have to ask for
them and integrate that with our intellects, we can identify

(43:31):
and discern. So that's how I know who I saw
was real because one he saved my life. Everything he
told me has come true and is still unfolding, and
he's shown he's the one who's taught me discernment. I
didn't have it. That's what I needed to learn. So

(43:51):
there's that old Chinese proverb, you teach what you need
to learn, and boy did I need to learn that
because as a child, I was, you know, gible. So
you know, when I saw Yeshua in the desert in
July seventy nine, that started a whole thing. And I
had no idea that it was going to end up

(44:12):
with me being exiled from my Jewish family and my
Jewish friends, and I lost my Jewish fiancee, who I
was getting ready to go to South Africa with all
because I decided, you know, I was following Yeshua. And
to me, it was like I had just discovered sliced bread.
I thought this was the I mean, at at eighteen

(44:34):
years old and me, it's like all these years you're
being told don't look at that, and then all of
a sudden it's like, wow, maybe there's something to this
and that the Old and the New Testament I was
you know, shown is like a right and a left
leg and they walk together. So you know, God is real.

(44:55):
He's alive. I mean, this is the whole thing. I mean,
the rest of that whole story, the crucifix, the resurrection
of the Ascension. He is still alive and he still
comes and visits people. And I'm so glad I'm not
the only one because other people have had very similar experiences,
so that intrigues me. And the same thing with the abductions.
The abductions, I was not the only one, and there's

(45:17):
tons of women that have gone through what I've gone through.
So how I got free from them was, yes, not
only saying the Lord's prayer, but actually just turning to
him because he has power over all those other spirits,
and that's why the books of Eno call him the
Lord of the spirits. So it's kind of like being

(45:39):
a spiritual Karen in a way, you know, going I
want to talk to the manager. I want to go
to the top, and is to going straight to the
Lord for everything, for deliverance, for healing and for freedom,
and I wanted to get free of being abducted. It
was not a positive experience for me, and it wasn't
something I wanted wanted to keep ongoing. And I also

(46:02):
wanted to have a human child, and I had multiple miscarriages,
and I was determined to get clear of it. So yes,
turning to Yeshua freed me from what the aliens were doing.
But it wasn't just like a saying a prayer and
it was happening overnight. I had to take responsibility from

(46:25):
my bloodline by breaking agreements and contracts that I and
my ancestors had made with these beings in other lifetimes.
And that's where reincarnation comes in and the awareness of
past lives. I became aware of the fact that the
reason why this was happening to me from the age

(46:46):
of two is because it was a carryover from my
previous lifetime. And that's where I had to go to
end and break it, kind of like getting a divorce
is done. And once I was able to do that
through Christ, Okay, through his power and the cleansing and
the deliverance, it stopped completely. So I mean, that's just

(47:10):
a testimony that he was the real Messiah because the
you know, but you know that is a great question.
That is the question of our era is how to
tell who is who?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
You refer to aliens from another planet?

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Right?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Did I say that? Not necessarily you said aliens?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
How do you describe aliens? Are they visitors from another world?
Another dimension?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
What? That is a great question. So I start out
by discerning the words, because this is how we can
have conversations and everyone could be on the same page.
An alien is a non human intelligence, Okay. So in
our world we have animals, we have fish, we have birds,
we have insects, we have different categories for different animal kingdoms.

(48:00):
Aliens are non humans. Okay, that doesn't necessarily conclude that
they are extraterrestrial. So the aliens that are doing the abductions,
the aliens that are here on Earth live inside our planet.
So that makes them intradimensional, extra dimensional aliens, but not

(48:22):
necessarily extraterrestrial. Then you have the word extraterrestrial with literally
means not of this world, right, something that's off the planet.
So an alien can be extraterrestrial, but so can a
human because we have evidence, we have records, Like I
was telling you about the two hundred men that came

(48:43):
from someplace else into our dimension, into Earth's dimension through
a portal and started all these bloodlines. Okay, so that's extraterrestrial,
not necessarily alien because they were human. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Well, living inside the Earth. It reminds me of Richard
Shaver's DeRos and Tiros. Are you aware of that story?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Oh? Yes, I incorporated it into my first book to
basically discuss this and say that we, you know, most
of these experiences because we were told, oh that they're
visitors or they're coming from outside. That doesn't mean that
they didn't start out in another star system, because there's
a lot of history there. But what we're dealing here

(49:30):
on Earth in the past five decades, six seven, maybe
since World War two or is, is what's happening from
inside the Earth, and that's why the ships are coming
from under the ocean, from inside the planet.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
We'll explore more inside and outside this planet with Ella
Jean Tim You're in Lupercals.

Speaker 8 (50:03):
This is Jennifer Stein, executive producer of the Disclosure Dialogues.
You're listening to the Para Cast, the gold standard of
paranormal radio.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
You're raising lots of topics here I want to get into.
Is the earth hollow?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Well, the hollow earth theory is true, but if you
take it literally, no, it's not like a hollow bull.
It's caverned out and it's divided into eleven dimensions, so
it's not all the same. And I prove this through

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scripture that both heaven and Hell are inside the earth.
So when people die, they say, oh, you went to heaven,
or they look up at the stars like you're out
there somewhere in the heavens. But even this is the
poet Henry Thirou said, heaven is under our feet as
well as above our heads. So when we get that

(51:03):
sort of perspective to see that there's happening, stuff happening
inside the earth. So scripture says that there's three levels
of hell inside the earth, which is like a prison.
It's not permanent, it's temporary like prisons are temporary. And
then there's heaven inside the earth, which Jesus talked about

(51:24):
was Paradise. It's also referred to as Abraham's bosom in
biblical terms. And then there's you know, like the place
that they call purgatory, which is kind of this in
between place, and so when souls die, they end up
in one of those places. And only at the very

(51:45):
end of this age does it specifically say that when
the Lord returns, he collects, he harvests, his souls is
redeemed from inside the earth first, like, that's the first rapture.
Is the dead in Christ rise from inside the earth.

(52:06):
They're not out there in the heavens, they're under These
are like the supernatural spiritual stuff. But then there's the
physical stuff that's also happening in the Earth is a
very business, it's a very special planet. It's a very
busy place. The Reptilian Empire, the Draconian Empire, is inside
the earth. And this is evidenced by all this ancient scriptures,

(52:30):
even the beginning. You know what happened in Atlantis, And
suffice to say, there were two floods, right, the floods
of Atlantis and then the floods of Noah. The Bible
starts off after the first flood, and the spirit hovet
over the waters of the earth, and then the Yelohem
came to recreate life on earth. Okay, and then the
same kind of problems happened where they were, you know,

(52:52):
mixing and matching DNA hybridizing. They blame the fallen angels
for mating with the earth women, and the earth women
gave birth to these monsters, miscreants, giants that basically sinned,
it says, against both men and animals. And the Creator

(53:13):
knew I had to wipe them, had to destroy them.
He had to wipe them off the face of the
earth and reset start all over again. And that was
the floods of Noah, which in between that time, that's
when the DNA was downgraded and we don't live as
long as we used to. And my conclusion in my
recent book Cosmic Slingshot, is part of that is because

(53:34):
of the harvesting of soul energy through the death trap,
through the cycles of reincarnation, that they shortened the life
span so that they can harvest the loosh the soul
energy quicker. And that's where Yeshua comes in because he says,
I've come to set these captives free, free from these

(53:58):
bondages of the cycle of being used and abused, okay,
both spiritually and physically, because it's it happens both in
the afterlife and in this life. He comes to end
the cycles of reincarnation. It hasn't happened yet, but that's
another one of the end time prophecies.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
Now, reincarnation is something that I think a lot of
people at least personally personally, except nowadays, but you look
at Christianity and Judaism and the rest. People don't realize though,

(54:40):
that reincarnation was a part of those religions, you know,
a few years back, but that's changed to modern times.
Why why is that?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Oh, that's a great question. That's exactly what happened. So
reincarnation was the common belief of all the ancient religions. Okay, so,
and it's still went in those ancient religions Judaism, Hinduism,
and of course out of the Torah came Judaism, out
of the Torah came Christianity, and out of the Torah

(55:19):
came Islam. So the beginning of Christianity, all the early
Church fathers and people and leaders all believed in reincarnation
because it came out of Judaism, and evidence by the
fact that Yashia and his disciples discussed it, and he
discussed it with one of the pharisees, Nicodinus, that famous

(55:43):
you know, John three, verse three where it says, oh,
what do you mean, I have to go back into
my mother's womb and be born again? And Yashua said,
you know, you must be born again both of water
and of spirit. And you know, most people don't take
him literally. They just created some movement out of that scripture.

(56:04):
But yes, he made he meant it literally, but not
necessarily the same mother. Okay, So what I proved in
this recent book is what the the Church of Rome
did when they edited and canonized the Bible. And that
was around five seventy five seventy one a d. During

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the times of the Emperor Justinian and his Empress Theodora.
So I got a backstory on her. I can tell
it real quickly for you because it's kind of interesting.
She started out as a peasant and kind of worked
her way up as a as a prostitute in Rome,
and became the empress concubine and then became his empress,

(56:50):
and you know, of course, being sort of maybe drunk
with power and all of that, and saw how Rome,
you know, worshiped all these gods and goddesses and there
were all these statues of them. She wanted to be
venerated and remembered as a goddess of Rome, not as
a peasant. So it irritated her that all these monks

(57:10):
and all the people, because they were all working on
the canonization and editing of the Bible, we're talking about reincarnation.
She didn't like that, so she ordered them to take
it out. Okay, So, tim one thing we can always
count on, and that's human error. Because those monks were
only as good as their understanding of the Hebrew language

(57:35):
and of the language that was used to describe reincarnation
and all these scriptures. So suffice to say, they left
about two dozen scriptures behind a whole chapter, the whole
chapter Ezekiel thirty seven is about the reincarnation of ancient Israel,
which we can check off as a fulfilled prophecy because
that's happened, and it says they will be raised up

(57:56):
and become a great army again, and that has happened.
And the Hebrew words for reincarnation were completely left behind
because they didn't understand them. So the Hebrew word for
there's two words. One of them is kafa kella, which
was coined by King David, and everybody knows that king.

(58:17):
The famous story about when David was a young man.
He killed a giant named Goliath with a slingshot, and
his wife later on, Abigail and another drama said to him, Oh,
the Lord is gonna send your enemies into the cosmic
slingshot and back again so that you can you know,

(58:37):
so that justice can happen. And she used the word
coffa kella and cop is two words cough meaning cup,
and Hakella says the cup of the slingshot has been
used by Jews forever to be the word for reincarnation
the cosmics, which is the title of my recent book.
And then the second word is gilgulem. And this tails

(59:00):
into Hinduism because gilgallem and Hebrew means the wheels of
wheels of the soul. The soul's going around a wheel,
and in Hinduism their belief is just that that the
soul goes round and round and keeps coming back until
it can get off the wheel of karma and when
your dharma runs over your karma and you know all

(59:22):
of that. So it's interesting because you're sure we talked
about this just in different words. And then I found
these scriptures in the Bible are in the Book of Revelation,
which is the prophecies. That well, first of all, he
said in the Gospels that I am when he was
ready to leave, and he told his disciples, I'm going

(59:44):
to prepare a place for you in my father's house.
There are many mansions.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Okay, more to explore with Ella. Tim's certainly Gene. You're
in the pedogast.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
I'm repeating, We're not in Kansas anymore. Hi, my name
is Richard Dolan. You're listening to the parac cast.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
A thousand and one questions erupt here to talk about
you know, let's just kind of danteil back to the
term mansions. What do you mean about that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, this is a fascinating subject that it just took
me down several rabbit holes. So the word mansions in
our vernacular we think of millionaire homes, right, but he
was talking about another type of mansion, like mansions in
the sky in the heavens. My father's house is Biblical

(01:00:51):
speak for the heavens, his father's house. And this was
where astrology comes in because in astrology everything is divided
by houses. So in the Vedic astrology, the word mansion
is used for stars. So I connect these dots for people,

(01:01:11):
you know in the books, so that they can see
what this means. But there's another term, mansions, that has
to do with spaceships. So this is just another perspective
of how future people, the Redeemed in the Age to come,
the Messianic Age, are going to live in mansions in

(01:01:36):
the sky, which are essentially spaceships or cities in the sky.
And then it takes us into you know, Revelation twenty one,
which talks about this mothership and it describes it. It's
this phantasmagorical mothership that says it has twelve gates, and
each gate is named after the twelve blessed tribes of Israel.

(01:02:02):
Because one tribe didn't make it they got cursed, and
Joseph had the double portion, so his son's end up
as the other two and says the Lord sits in
the middle on a throne. This is literally the quintessential
end time prophecy, when Heaven comes to earth and this
is a city. It's also called the City of God,

(01:02:23):
the New Jerusalem, and it comes over the earth after
the earth. At the end, when the earth is scorched,
it says that it's scorched. Now we can say, oh,
it's scorched because of wars, or it's scorched because of
the solar flares, or a bit of both. But he
comes over lands on a scorched earth, the whole city

(01:02:44):
opens up. And then that is the ascension, because as
he comes with this city that overlays a scorched earth,
the earth is raised into the vibration and the frequency
of heaven. That is the and that begins the millennial
reign of Christ on Earth, which we call the Messianic Age,

(01:03:06):
and that happens to be the Age of Aquarius.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
By when it comes to studying scripture, that has to
be a form of task because of I mean, how
many translations has there been throughout the centuries. And the

(01:03:31):
thing that always I read a piece a long time
ago that was talking about how scholars did not understand
the very basics of translations from the original. You know,

(01:03:53):
either you know, Hebrew or Aramaic language is something as
simple as slang. Now you know, we don't think about that,
but you read any kind of you know, modern publications,
they're full of slang and you just accept and you know,

(01:04:14):
everyone knows the meanings. But in modern translations of scripture,
those meanings have been lost completely and instead the words
are taken literally. So I mean, what kind I mean,
you know, how difficult then is it to have a

(01:04:35):
good understanding of what these you know, the the original
writers were trying to convey when the modern translations just
go in completely opposite directions.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, that's a great question. There's been a lot of manipulation, uh.
And that's a fact. So even the original Hebrew uh,
which was written in the Aramaic Hebrew, which which originally
did not have vowels, the dots and the dashes or
the vowels. It wasn't until around seven hundred AD when

(01:05:14):
the Mazaratic Jews, who were being held captive in Babylon,
decided to rewrite the Tanakh, the whole Old Testament with vowels,
and they took it as an opportunity to cover up
the name of the sacred name of the Lord, the

(01:05:35):
God of Israel, which they felt that they had to protect.
And they so they put the dots and the dashes,
the vowels from the words Adonoi and Elohim, and put
it over the yudhey uhy which is, you know, the
tetragrammaton to confuse the gentiles by design. That was a deliberate,

(01:05:56):
intentional move to protect this sake name. So this is
something I unpacked in my second book, because there's a
curse and this is in Malachi five on the high priests,
called the high priest curse, where they're cursed because they
did not esteem the name of God. And yet you've

(01:06:19):
got all these commandments, there's about twenty four of them
in the book of Exodus, where the Lord is commanding
his people to thank his name, praise his name, extole
his name, memorialize his name, et cetera. And they stopped
doing that because they took this, oh, thou shalt not

(01:06:40):
use the Lord's name in vain like and they went
all the way into some extreme which has turned into
a superstition where Jews won't even they won't say his name.
They just use the word hashem, which literally means the name,
or they write out the word God and Lord with
a dash in the middle of it because they can those.

(01:07:01):
I mean, that's just pure superstition, because first of all,
the words God and Lord are not names, they're titles.
There's many gods as many lords. So they covered up
the names of the most High and also the names
of the other gods that are talked about in the Bible,
because it was a cosmic drama between these so called

(01:07:24):
ancient gods and they they they made gods out of them,
but they weren't really gods. They were extraterrestrials. And so
you know, that's where a lot of these curses came from.
And that's where you know the stories like for instance,
Ahab and Jezebel, Like Ahab was a king of Israel,

(01:07:45):
Jezebel was worshiping these other gods which were these you know,
when the ets came, they made gods out of them,
they put they built temples on top of their spaceports.
Now this is something that got uh proved through Zachariah
Sitchen's material because he you know, there were all these

(01:08:06):
ancient space ports in Iraq, in Israel, all around Mesopotamia
where there were portals, and they're still fighting today over
these ancient space portals. And they built temples on top
of them when the when they left the Earth, and
then they created gods out of them. And this is
where the Jews got punished for following after these false gods.

(01:08:33):
And so we come dovetail back into the end time prophecy.
It's the same story, different century, because as you brought up,
there will be this counterfeit Messiah that is going to
claim the title of God and he's going to sit
himself in the rebuilt Third Temple in Jerusalem, which hasn't

(01:08:57):
happened yet, but it's going to have And when you
see that temple go up, you can start counting down
to the end of the age. And it says that
at the end of the age, time quickens, time will
get shorter. And you and I are talking on one
of the three days this year that is considered the
shortest day of the year, July twenty second, because something

(01:09:20):
is happening to the earth that is shaving seconds off
of how we measure time. So don't you find that interesting,
because that's a prophecy happening as we speak.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I have lots of questions to ask of you here,
and I really want to keep it to the next
segment because we will stop in the middle of a phrase.
Ellen Lebaine has lots of interesting ideas about life, religion, abductions, etc.
With Gene Steinberg, also with Tim Schwartz. It all comes together,

(01:09:51):
all comes together. It means you're in.

Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
A para cast.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
I'm repeating, We're not in Kansas anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
This is Michah Hanks of the Gray Leanterpot and you're
listening to the Peri Cast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Tim sometimes sounds like another entity there. Okay, Ella, I
want to ask you an ultimate overarching religious question. Okay,
you're a Christian. What about Jews? What about Muslims? What
about people who follow Wiccan religions? What about them?

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Well, I'm actually a Messianic Jew. I don't have a
problem with the word Christian, but I have had problems
with it because this is a huge misunderstanding because when
a Jew accepts Yeshua, we consider ourselves completed Jews. Okay,
so we don't convert to another religion. It's a completion

(01:10:57):
of our own. So that's who I am. I'm a
Messianic Jew, and it's okay if somebody wants to call
me a Christian, because I do, you know, interact and
go to church. But I do not agree with several
three major things that come out of Christianity, and I
remain Jewish on these points. Their view on women, their

(01:11:19):
view on reincarnation, and their view on aliens. So I'm
a Messianic Jew on all those points because they've manipulated
stuff into the Bible, and I prove that I expose
all this stuff in my books. So in answer to
you the other part of your question, someone who is
like a Wiccan or Hindu or Buddhist, it doesn't matter,

(01:11:43):
It doesn't matter who you are, where you came from,
what religion you were born into, what culture language, what
gender you are. The salvation and the redemption that is
found in the Messiah is for everyone. And that and
this is what I'm proving in these books, is that

(01:12:03):
it even goes one step further than just us earth humans,
and that's the et hybrids that are living on the Earth.
And that has something to do with this earth realm
that we all are in. We get born into it.
Being this type of human kind of levels the playing field.

(01:12:24):
So redemption is for everyone, doesn't matter who. And we're
seeing this, I mean, just to prove these points. For instance, Muslims. Okay,
so Muslims, their only way out is Christ really, and
they're seeing that. And they've been seeing that for oh
about ten fifteen years now when they had to deal

(01:12:45):
with ISIS, and a lot of Muslims did not want
to be associated with that, so they left Islam and
turned to Christ in like huge numbers. I mean, you
guys can look it up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Wait a minute. Okay, So you're say a Muslim with
the rye of these terrorist groups, Muslims have to switch
to christ to avoid that problem.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Well, I didn't say have to, but that's really their
only way out, Okay, So in your opinion, yes, and
also because they're doing it. This is this is part
I'm telling you what's been happening over the past two decades,
and it's happening now. So you know, Isis is now
morphed into Jamas and other types of these jihadists. And

(01:13:33):
so jihad is one side of Islam. There's another side
of Islam. And this is the problem in the Middle
East is that not all Muslims are on the same page.
Some of them are Shia's and some of them are Sunnis.
And the jihadists are the problem in all of these

(01:13:54):
Muslim countries, not just to non Muslims, but to Muslims themselves.
I mean, what's happening in Syria right now. They're trying
to exterminate and genocide. The Drus and the Drus are
neither Muslim, Jewish or Christian. They're an ancient group of
people that you know, have their own way of doing things.

(01:14:15):
The Jihadis want to genocide everyone. That is, they want
they want the whole world. This is their motive, this
is their goal, is that the whole world should come
under sharia law.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
I'm sorry. I have listened to commentaries and Muslims no
wonder too. That is not how they feel in general.
Now here are some facts. Okay, let's deal with facts.
There are two point two billion Christians in this world.
Islam has one point ninety seven, but because the birth
rate is higher, it will be later the century the

(01:14:47):
world's dominant religion. That's number one, number two. As of
twenty fourteen, between two and seven million Muslims had converted
to Christianity worldwide over the previous two decades. That is
a drop in the bucket. I'd rather don't want to
get into that, because you come across even though maybe

(01:15:08):
you don't want to, as disparaging other religions or saying
they're on the wrong path. And I want none of
that here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Okay, I apologize. I am not trying to say that
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Okay, you're certainly implying it with Islam.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Okay, well, let me explain. First of all, yes, you're
you know, I don't deny your statistics, but I am
telling you what's happening. Okay, the end time war is
against jihad. So world War three, world War II was
against the Nazis. World War three is against jihad. And

(01:15:44):
I said this array I'll say it again that not
all Muslims are on the same page. They do not
even Muslims. There's secular Muslims, there's you know, the Muslims
that are Muslims by culture. They do not agree with
this side of Islam that has to do with jihad
and sharial law. And that's where the terrorism comes in

(01:16:07):
because they're doing it through terror because they believe, and
this is written in the Qur'an, that is through chaos
that their Maody will show up. So they are creating
the chaos so that they can have their Maody, which
is like their Messiah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Okay, Okay, I think most people agree that most Muslims
are peaceful and do not support any of that stuff.
I mean, some do, and some become very prominent, but
It's also true that there are Christian terrorists who basically

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violate every precept in the Bible and do some pretty
horrible things. So I don't want again and that I
want to just move off it, because frankly, we're hitting
areas that are going to cause real serious problems. And
you can believe what you want to believe, and I
respect that, but I'd rather just wanted to get your
basic views on other religions. That's fine, believe as you will.

(01:17:10):
Maybe you're right. I have no idea, but.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Let's let's fine if you want to take this piece out.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
No, I want to include as part of the discussion. Okay,
I want to ask you some things more detail now
in terms of abductions, where whenever it is aliens et
whatever they are, are engaged in creating a hybrid race.
That's not something unusual in this field. An example of that,

(01:17:40):
of course, would be like doctor David Jacobs.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Ever hear of him, Oh, I know, yes, well I
met him, Yes, I quote him, and I very much
admire his work.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
We've had doctor Jacobs on the show a number of times.
My problem with it is his hip, no technique. I'll
give you one example.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
This is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Several years ago, when my late friend Christopher O'Brien was
a co host of the show, we had Doctor Jacobs
on and I asked him, with regard to his hypnotic technique,
what about leading questions, because I'm sure you can understand
the danger of that if you lead a hypnosis subject
towards a certain path, they could come up with results

(01:18:26):
that may meet your expectations but aren't accurate. He said,
there are no leading questions. What do you think about
hypnotic regression? What's your opinion?

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Well, first of all, I am no expert to talk
about hypnosis because I have been diagnosed as one of
the ten percent of Americans that cannot be hypnotized. Okay,
so believe me. I've tried. I've tried with people who
I trusted, and it just doesn't work for me in

(01:18:58):
the sense that you're taught about. You know, maybe they
put me under drugs. I don't know. I haven't tried that,
but you know I can't even do drugs. I'm not
from this planet. The drugs don't work on me here.
That's a joke, but it's true. So I cannot speak
about techniques or anything because no technique worked on me.
So where I go is memory that we were born

(01:19:23):
with that has come to the surface in my own
experience naturally, so through triggers, through dreams, through memories, through
meeting other people that were on the same path or
in that same lifetime, like for instance, my husband. And

(01:19:44):
that's how I you know, got memories and memory is
a scientific phenomenon.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
More with Ella, Jean Tim you're in the paraghost.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Hi, this is Tracy Torme screenwrite a producer.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
You're listening to para cast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Now, when it comes to memories, I think you'll agree
Ella that our memories are very imperfect. And you can
see that. For example, if there's an accident or a
crime where you have a major event that's going to
trigger a reaction, but you put ten witnesses in separate
rooms and record them separately, they will come up with

(01:20:37):
maybe twelve different versions of what happened. So do you
really assume memories are accurate?

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Well, yes, you're right. I mean somebody could see the
same event in this life without even forgetting about it,
and have you know, three four different perspectives, like watching
an accident happen so this happens all the time. I
think there's different layers of it. So I want to
share with you a piece that I put into this

(01:21:05):
recent book, Cosmic Slingshot about memory, which our CIA spent
millions of dollars in three decades of research on reincardation
because of memory. So they hired a remote They hired
remote viewers, as I'm sure you're well aware of, and

(01:21:26):
they sent them to a location and asked them to
pick up information about that location. And what came back
was that they were tapping into another time on that location.
So that's when they realized, wait a second, these are
past lives. So then they threw all this money and

(01:21:49):
time in research into this provingness that this is a
real phenomena and that they were trying to use it
to get information for their own purposes. Is so, I
think that when a mind is trained, like the remote viewers,
they go through training, some of them have a natural

(01:22:09):
gift for it. I don't do this, I'm just you know,
this is my observation that they can come back with
some pretty accurate information. So, and I don't think that
time or space or location is a limitation because it's
evidenced by the stuff they've come back with, Like people

(01:22:31):
have remote viewed underground bases on Mars, and you know,
hyamashd the retired Space chief became whistleblower in twenty twenty
and basically talked about that, which corroborated and vindicated what
the remote viewers we're seeing. So you know this is
a realm that yes, it's a little fuzzy because you

(01:22:53):
can say, well, memories can fool you, and you can
also have screen memories, which is what the allis do.
So when they abduct people, they put you in this
hypnagogic state, which is like much deeper than hypnosis, and
they can place a screen memory there and so you
can't get beyond that wall in your own mind to

(01:23:17):
figure out what happened to you. So many people have
had this experience because I know because I was in
this group in the nineteen nineties called isc and I
Institute for the Study of Contact with Non Human Intelligence,
which was one of the first Internet groups. Whitley Strieber
was in it and others who all had experiences and abductions,
so we didn't feel alone. And you know, they talked

(01:23:41):
about this, the screen memories so you know, I think
it's definitely a phenomenon.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Well with screen memories, like people remember owls or something
giant owls, that signifies something below the surface. But how
does one know that the entire event, the entire reduction,
is not a green memory, a false memory.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Yeah, that's a great question. Well, I think the evidence
that is left in the physical body is a reason
why it's not justice green memory, because there's evidence of
it such as Okay, so here's my take on how
they do this, Okay, in a nutshell, very similar to
Star Trek. They demolecularize and remolecularize your body in the ship.

(01:24:25):
So that's why when a couple is sleeping in bed
and one gets abducted and the other one doesn't, and
it says, wait a second, you never left the bed,
but yet you had all these experiences and then they
put you back into your body, So it's not a
true abduction like a true kidnapping where you're being held
ransom until you can come back. It's a temporary abduction.

(01:24:46):
They take you up on the ship, remolecularize your energy
because they can see our energy bodies and we can't.
We can through training and you know, focus but that's
what part of the miss DNA. You know that those
twelve when I told you that there is ten strands
that are disabled that are geneticis called junk DNA. The

(01:25:08):
superhumans metahumans, the first humans had all that. See, in
my opinion, we had it all and then lost it.
So now we're trying to get it back. We're moving
towards restoration. But the aliens can see what we can,
so they can see the energy. Boy, the energy body
is really who we are. You know, when your physical

(01:25:30):
body ceases to exist, the energy body doesn't. So it's
what's happening in that energy, in that soul body that
creates what's going on in your physical body. So when
they take your physical when they take your energy body
and they do the stuff they do on the ships
and then they put you back, it's an imprint. So

(01:25:52):
whatever happened to the energy body is now felt in
the physical body, which is why bruises show up, blood
shows up, you know, weird little hair things, you know,
they call them spiderwebs and angel hair and all this
other stuff that abductees have reported. So we know that

(01:26:13):
there's something going on there, and that is why I
was concluding about the cycles of reincarnation. Because they are
so into harvesting our energy body, they're able to manipulate it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
Okay, the way you describe it, it's almost like astral projection.
You're projecting your soul essence to another location where you're
physically still there. Now, when we talk about the transporter,
like in Star Trek, you are being dissolved in a sense,
and that energy or whatever it is that matter is

(01:26:48):
sent to the other location and then you are reassembled.
The same thing with stargate, you are dissolved and then
reassembled at the other location, which could be through a
wormhole in another star system. But as for projection, physically
where you are, but the part of you that's being

(01:27:10):
projected goes elsewhere. You see the difference I do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
And the other difference is that you're doing it versus
someone is basically taking your energy body and doing it
for you without your conscious knowledge or agreement. So one
is like a theft, and the other one is you're
willingly projecting your astral body out there. Two different things,

(01:27:38):
but yes, the same concept.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Well, of course, in terms of a transporter or stargate,
you are willingly traveling somewhere else. It's another way of
going somewhere else. I mean, I'd like it. Frankly, I
prefer stargate because instead of going out a spaceship and
maybe we could achieve the speed of light, maybe we can't.
We go to factor nine or something if that could

(01:28:02):
become a reality. But with a stargate, you go in
there in ten seconds later you are on another star
system on the other side of the galaxy or beyond.
That is just great, Yeah, really cool. I want to
go back to some other concepts here. Of course, you
have different kinds of aliens, just creatures from below the Earth,

(01:28:23):
DRO's heroes, whatever, but also extra terrestrials from where. Do
you specifically have a picture of which planets have intelligent
life that's traveling here?

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Yes, I do. And that started my whole journey on
this research was that I was shown this, I was
given this downloaded this chart which is in my first book,
and it shows how these two kingdoms, which I call
the human the lyra Vine, because they believe that the human,

(01:28:57):
the human form, by the way is is a common
life form in the universe, human, humanoid, okay, you know, bipedal, so,
but that the humans were created on Lyra and all
these other star systems that come from that that had
human form. Then there was the Then the other kingdom
is the Draconian, which is reptilian. The lizard men also humanoid,

(01:29:24):
but uh, you know scally skins and and there's there's
a hierarchy which I delineate and decipher and published in
my first book of this whole hierarchy. And we've seen
people have seen, you know, the John Keel's the mothmen.
People have had encounters with some of these beings where

(01:29:44):
they have wings like bat wings. Uh, and there's like
a caste system in their whole hierarchy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Okay, more to come with Ella Gene. Tam, you're in
the parast opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
We're not in Kansas anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
You were in the para cast You never know what's
going to happen next.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
So Ali, you speak of a cast system within this
hierarchy of creatures.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Go on, Yes, well, the Reptilians are kind of structured
like that. So you know there's these giant lizard men.
So during the moon landing, this is what was reported
by Tom sorry, selected by extraterrestrials. He was a whistleblower

(01:30:40):
William Tompkins, who was in the control room and was
able to see the feed, the live feed when Apollo
eleven landed on the Moon. And why Neil Ansher had
to take control and do it manually is because they
were programmed go into the Cita tranquility and when they

(01:31:02):
got there, there was a fleet of spaceships hovering just
above the surface, and these what he described and drew
as nine foot tall lizard men standing next to them,
so you can see these sketches. And he had this

(01:31:24):
photographic memory, and that's why he was used. They basically
recruited him when he was a teenager in World War two,
sent him into the German navy yards to basically come
back and draw in very great detail the ships that
he was seeing. And then one thing led to another,
and he became an aerospace engineer lifelong. So at the

(01:31:47):
end of his life he decided to become a whistleblower
about the secret space program. This book is called Selected
by Extraterrestrials, and Moufon actually named their symposium in twenty
seventeen after him Select the Secret Space Program, and he
died August seventeenth on that total solar eclipse. So what

(01:32:10):
we're left with is his information, and so we can
piece it together and see, well, okay, so the reptilians
the lizard men are on the Moon. Okay, so they're
not just here on Earth. They're on the Moon. They're
also on Mars. So I know this from another witness, whistleblower,
Andrew Boschiago, who I interviewed and he gave me permission

(01:32:34):
to put his story in my book and he edited
for me, so I wanted to make sure I had
all my details correct. And he's an attorney in Vancouver
and he was used in this time travel program called
Project Pegasus, where they time traveled and they also time
traveled to Mars in what they call a Mars junk room,

(01:32:56):
which was an elevator in California, and he saw all
these beings on Mars and one of them is lizard.
So we know that they're not just here on Earth.
But there's many different groupings of them, and there's also hybrids,
so we see that the reptilians have hybridized. There's reptilian

(01:33:20):
human hybrids here on Earth, the serpent race. It's written
in the Bible, so this is ancient, not new and
that the grays are made up of different types of
hybrids of reptilians and hybrids of insectoids, and that the
insectoids are enemies of the reptilians and vice versa. So

(01:33:44):
they've had this back and forth, you know, for years,
and even evidenced by nature. You know, how lizards eat insects,
and some insects can even eat a lizard, you know,
like a praying mantis, you know, small lizard, and then
there's tall you know, what we have on Earth is

(01:34:05):
just a representation of who these beings are. So there
is such a thing as a manted alien that is
super tall as well, like nine feet tall, and they're
carnivorous and they can eat humans like humans eat chicken.

(01:34:25):
That's what was reported, those very words from an abductee
who saw that happen.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
It sounds like one of those nineteen fifties monster movies.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Mm hm, yes it does. And the truth is stranger
than fiction. And I have this philosophy and belief that
science fiction is prophetic in many ways. Some science fiction
writers download and they get information. Maybe they don't always

(01:34:57):
know where it's coming from. Oh it makes a great story,
and really it's a way that humans now are getting
prepared for full disclosure is through the movies. So I
do know for a fact that some producers and writers

(01:35:18):
and directors have been handed scripts to help prepare the public,
because this goes back to the nineteen fifties when Majestic
twelve all sat around in a think tank trying to
figure out how they can protect the information and while
not giving disclosure, but also preparing the public because that's

(01:35:43):
something they had to do before it happened. So they
handed certain directors and producers and writers information and Star
Trek was one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
Spoiler alert before we heard about sen rotten Berry. The
MJ twelve documents we've seen are they're known to be fakes.
They've been investigated very carefully and have been shown not
to be real. That I won't even discuss because that's
a certainly, almost a certainty, and we kind of know
who we even perpetrated them. It doesn't mean there wasn't

(01:36:16):
some kind of agency in the fifties involved in UFO research,
but it is not MJ twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Go on, Okay, well that's what they call themselves in
the fifties. I'm not referring to any document. I'm referring
to a think tank from the fifties.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
Where do we document that we I don't understand. How
do we document the existence of a majestic twelve group
in the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Oh well, this is I mean, these are stories that
people have said and published, and some of these people
even showed up in recent times. They had these bird names.
They were all given these other names like Avery.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
We had Falcon and Condor. I know, I know about those.
We don't take we don't take them terribly. They're not
taken seriously. It might be mostly disinformation agents. We've we've
covered those over the years. It's not taken seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Well, you know, they didn't take the UFO disclosure or
alien presence seriously for years and now they are. So
just because something has been gaslighted or you know, debunked,
doesn't mean that it isn't real, because that's a perfect
cover for keeping that information under wraps. Kind of like

(01:37:43):
the flat Earth theory, which was a psia a cia
si op that they put out there because they thought, well,
if we can get people to believe that the Earth
is flat, that's a perfect cover for the underground bases.
They'll never believe that. They'll never believe that, oh there's civilization,
ancient civilization and cities underground if the earth is flat.

(01:38:04):
So sometimes debunking things, you know, you got to look
one more layer because there it's a cover up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
Okay, yes, but you have a lot of people. You
have a lot of people though, running around like Rictoty
for a FOSI agent. People like him. I don't know
if you ever heard of Rictoti.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
I've heard from him, but I don't know him.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
But he's been on the show and he's the kind
of guy who says ten different things, of which seven
may be untrue, but you don't know which seven. In
terms of disclosure, we've been talking about different kinds of
disclosure since the nineteen fifties and never ever comes to pass.

(01:38:47):
It's always next year. It's always around the corner, and
the corner gets farther away. I want to be sarcastic
and cynical, but after all these years, you can't help it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
I'm with you on that, and that's why I said,
don't put all your eggs in one basket. You know
that old saying. Because everyone is waiting with baited breath,
the United States government to give us full disclosure, and
that's probably not going to happen. That doesn't mean that
another nation on Earth won't. Okay, So what have we

(01:39:19):
gotten out of the Middle East? We you know, I
mean Israel was ready to disclose in twenty fifteen and
they were told not to. So that's why Hyamashed came
out in twenty twenty with like stuff you just can't
make up. Oh are you familiar with kayamashd or you

(01:39:40):
heard about it? It was during the pandemic, kind of
went under the radar, but it's still out there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
We've got It's a fascinating Ella.

Speaker 9 (01:39:47):
Jean Tim you're in the perracast.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
This is Jacques Really you're listening to the podcast the
gold Standard of Paranormal Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
Ella Labine continues with US disclosure. I mean, it's been
so many people say they know things. And we heard
about the Israeli guy back around the time of the pandemic.
We know about the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. In fact, I
saw your name over there at their site. But I
am not against what they're trying to do. The question

(01:40:38):
we always have is this, does the US military have
real answers or are they just confused about it. What
about the Russians, were about Iranians? What about Chinese? Because
I think a rogue nation having really good, guilty knowledge
of something, maybe having decoded some alien technology, advanced technology,

(01:41:00):
be ready to put it into action. The Russians in Ukraine,
the Iranians against Israel, that sort of thing not happening yet.
So the possibilities here is, none of these countries have
knowledge that they could use to exploit which is the
proper purpose for them, or they don't have any knowledge

(01:41:22):
at all, and therefore we don't hear anything.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Well, or you could flip it and say, oh, that
the Israelis have the tech and use it against the Iranians. Well,
so here's what I know is that Haimashed spoke to
the Idido rah Note which is the equivalent of the
New York Times in Israel and in November of twenty
twenty and basically said, the United States and Israel are

(01:41:52):
in working agreements with the Galactic Federation on Earth and
President Trump knows about it, and that they were sharing
astronauts for joint bases underground on Mars. That's what he
came out with, Okay, And it's headlined in all over

(01:42:14):
the place. People could just google it and it's still
up on the internet. Then after he told them that
he collaborated with them and they published a book, his
book which is The Universe and Beyond the Horizon, which
is basically you know, because he was an astrophysicist, but

(01:42:35):
he was also the retired Israeli space chief, like he
had nothing let to lose by disclosing this, because this
is what happens with these octagenarians like William Tompkins and others,
where they come out they feel like they can't really die.
Their conscience or their soul doesn't let them to move

(01:42:56):
on or pass over until they've left something behind. Because
even though they're under all kinds of non disclosure agreements,
they still feel that, you know, the truth needs to
come out and people need to know, and that's what
he did. They've hidden him since he's not dead, he's
in his nineties, but he's been kind of quieted. But

(01:43:17):
his book is out there. And his book was written
only in Hebrew by Geffen Publishing out of Jerusalem. It's
not even in a PDF form, so you can't even
like take it and put it through a translator. So
I got it and I was able to extract about
thirteen pages that were just related to the UFO crashes

(01:43:40):
and the aliens. So if anybody wants that, they can
reach out to me through my website. I send it
in a PDF for free, because you know, it's about
information and disclosure and what he revealed, and this was
in twenty twenty, mind you. So what he revealed was
all these different crashes all around the world, not just

(01:44:03):
you know here everybody's focused on Roswell's Socorro and you
know what happens here in America, but this was all over.
This was in Siberia and Israel and in Italy. And
he talked about the Magenta Italy crash in nineteen thirty two.
That was way before David Grush told our Congress about

(01:44:24):
it in July of twenty three. So what Hayamashed said
was that the Germans came and cleaned it up and
took everything back to Germany. Obviously, that was you know,
in the thirties before World War Two was won by
the Americans, so the Americans and the Russians as allies,

(01:44:46):
they got the spoils of war, so then they got
everything that the Nazis. So that's why it ended up here.
And that's why when Grush's testimony to Congress said yeah,
we have it, So I thought that was kind of
an interesting turn of events on the timeline that corroborated.

(01:45:06):
So that's why I'm saying, Joe, put all your eggs
in one basket, meaning for disclosure can come from another country.
Now the Bible, Okay, the End Time prophecy is about
UFO and alien disclosure. So whether Israel does it or
another nation does it, it's going to happen. Which is

(01:45:28):
what our government is most afraid of is catastrophic disclosure
because they can't control that. And that's what the End
Time prophecy tells us that there are beings creatures, alien
creatures that are going to come out from inside the earth,
out of the oceans, out of the earth. So when

(01:45:49):
people start seeing that happen, I mean that is catastrophic disclosure.
No one's going to be able to control that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
Okay, So basically I can say that we're toast.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Well, you know, so every sunset is a sunrise. The
end of this age is going to bring what everyone
in our highest ideals want, and that's peace and unity
and brotherhood and sisterhood and understanding and no more war,
and no more suffering and no more pain. And that

(01:46:25):
is what the End Time prophecy promises that when Yushua returns,
we he restores all things, including us, and we get
our ten strands of DNA back, we become we live
to be a thousand again. So when you meet these
ets and you know, I mean, you can scrutinize the information,
but sometimes they go quite a second. They look like
they're thirty five years old, and yet they say they're

(01:46:48):
twelve hundred and change. How is that possible. That's the
DNA and that's what we have to look forward to
in the age to come. Yeah, we're going to be
toast on this planet at the end of this timeline.
But death is not the end of everything, and death
is not the worst thing that can happen to you.
So it's not what you know, it's who you know.

(01:47:08):
So it doesn't matter who you are, what religion or
culture you came out of. Yashiwa, it's it's King of
the universe. Got He's coming to save everybody. That's the hope.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
Well, I certainly hope things get better than they are now.
I don't want to get into the politics, but right
now there are lots of people looking for some kind
of change because the situations they confront are not really
so pleasant about it, Ella Levain, tell our listeners if
they want to know more about what you do, where
can they check you out?

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
Thank you? I'm at Who's Who, indecosmiczoo dot com, and
my books are on Amazon worldwide in Kindle. Three books
are on audio now and then paperback everything. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
Anything new coming up? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Yes, I have Finding Freedom When Horses Don't Fly will
be worldwide release on September first, and that's how I
got free of alien abductions and how to break generational
curses and heal trauma.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
Well, I certainly want to know how you break alien abductions,
not that I've been abducted, by the way, although I'm
sure some people would prefer that. But we can't go there.
We can't go there. Thank you very much, Hellen. We
are found on Twitter now X Maybe they'll call it
why next week. I don't know, but it's a Zoo

(01:48:35):
soles you call it z and then threads and then
Blue Sky Social and Facebook. As the Power Cast, we
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After the Powercast podcast where Ella We'll be back to
take more abuse from us. No, she's very gracious about

(01:48:58):
it and we're happy to talk talk to her. Check
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you so much for being on the power Cast.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Thank you for having me, Chim and Gene.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
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