August 11, 2025 • 46 mins
In this compelling episode of Paradyme Shift, host Ryan Garland sits down with longtime friend, collaborator, and sponsor Ryan Busnardo — an entrepreneur whose life’s work fuses legacy, innovation, and the art of building dreams into reality.
From a multi-generational lineage of machinists and metallurgists, Busnardo's journey spans selling cars, owning dealerships, dominating off-road racing, and ultimately creating Premier Manufacturing Group (PMG) — a 110,000-square-foot advanced manufacturing facility in Lake Havasu City, AZ. His company specializes in precision steel fabrication, aerospace-grade components, architectural steel, and the world’s strongest custom doors.
The conversation dives deep into:
- Family legacy – From his grandfather’s machine shop to his father’s groundbreaking nuclear waste containment designs.
- Entrepreneurship & evolution – How off-road racing shops became a robotics-driven steel powerhouse.
- Partnership with Paradyme – Manufacturing all structural steel for the Barn Caves project and the Family Office Society HQ.
- Design and efficiency – How steel kit construction cuts build time, reduces costs, and maintains unmatched quality.
- Personal resilience – Navigating a high-risk pregnancy scare with a happy outcome.
- Vision for the future – The power of vetted networks, marketing, and private equity education to grow businesses.
This episode is a masterclass in vision, execution, and trust — a story about building not only structures, but relationships, reputations, and enduring impact.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everybody.
Welcome to Paradigm Shift.
I'm beyond excited todaybecause this is a guest that
we've had on once before.
We had the most traction periodinto story with this guy and he
is the sponsor of the ParadigmShift and we are sitting at a
table that probably costsroughly 30,000 that he decided
to donate for me to be mysponsor for the podcast.
So, ryan Bussinato, thank you,buddy, I love you.
(00:21):
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thanks for having Ryan.
I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So he owns 10 Day Doors here in town.
He also owns PMG Manufacturing.
I'm going to let him share hisstory and his background, but
it's very unique and I'm goingto pull some stuff out of him
that he's not ready for, becauseyou know me guys, I my guests,
but I also were.
I'm hoping that you guys aregoing to see another, uh, um, I
(00:46):
would say another resource foryou to use if you're somewhat in
my space or if you're lookingfor something special that's in
his lane.
I want you guys to be able toreach out to him, cause he's a,
he's got a, a gift, and I don'tsay that often to people.
I've been watching him for manyyears.
I actually have friends from 20years ago that used to work with
Ryan on some othermanufacturing materials, and
(01:07):
he's just he's, he's probablythe I don't even know how to
describe it, but he's probablyone of the best in his space.
And when you walk into hishundred and ten thousand square
foot office, if you will, he'sjust got robotic arms everywhere
and he's got different type ofyou know steel development being
built out and all kinds ofdifferent contracts, and he just
(01:28):
kind of can do it all.
So, ryan, again, buddy, I loveyou.
Thanks for being here.
You're one of my favoritepeople in the whole world.
I am your biggest fan, as youknow.
I refer everybody I can over toyou, because you've just made
me look really good and you'resaving me a shitload of money,
dude.
So I love you bro.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Appreciate you so much, right?
I really, really appreciate thekind words and thanks for
having me, of course.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
All right, so let's lead up into this.
I want you to share theaudience a little bit about you,
what you, what you do, a littlebit about your manufacturing
company, what's your specialty.
But let's talk real quick, goback to like the beginning, how
long you've up in the space andkind of where you are today.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, well, I really probably start with my
grandfather.
He was a, a metalers machinist,a tool and die maker, um really
really with a lot of accolades,did a lot of stuff in his day.
Uh had a machine shop and uhshop in Watts in Los Angeles all
through the 50s and 60s and 70sand from him came my father.
(02:32):
There were two children, myfather and my aunt.
And my father, naturallybecause he grew up in the
machine shop, was a machinistbefore he graduated high school.
But he had a really neat story.
He was uh drafted, uh uh by theuh marine corps and uh went
down, signed up in the navy forvietnam and he was on a uh
(02:55):
machine ship um that did all therepairs for the other the fleet
.
He was, you know, on and uh themachinist, the head machinist
for the ship, died.
And here's my 18 year old fatherum fit in that position for
that machining ship, for thatfleet, and he was the head
machinist for the fleet and did,did uh all the machining and uh
(03:16):
really a master machinist and ametallurgist um.
So he he did a lot of work fora lot of refineries, like he's a
really a pump expert, which ifyou're a pump.
You know everything's a pump.
You know motor, you know uhcombustion motor.
I mean everything's kind of apump, but he's that's kind of
his lane pump expert andmachinist, metallurgist.
Um, he did a lot of work withrefineries when I was growing up
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and then he did work with uh, alot of work I think 25, 30
years with southern cal,southern California Edison, the
nuclear power plant there.
So he was real well known allover the world for his pump work
and he developed the nuclearcanisters that the spent fuel
waste is in all over the worldnow he actually developed that.
That was his deal.
So pretty, pretty neat.
(04:00):
He's got a lot of, did a lot ofstuff.
And you know when I came out ofhigh school I went through a
apprenticeship with him atSouthern California Edison and I
was also selling cars, you knowwhen I was going through red
badge training.
So you know I liked money, youknow, and I liked what money
could buy and whatnot.
(04:20):
And I didn't see myself, don'twe all?
Yeah, I didn't see myself goingthrough a um, uh being a
machinist um, which I'm not uh,but went through that
apprenticeship and uh worked for16 months out at Edison and
then went back to selling carsand then became a car dealer.
And um, when I bought my firstHonda dealer, my son was about
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six years old and we went intoracing off-road racing so we
developed the biggest, largestoff-road racing team and short
course at the time, and thendesert and a lot of other stuff.
So we developed a race shop, ifyou will, which had a lot of
fabrication tools in it, youknow, hand fabrication tools.
(05:06):
And then over the years, uh, wegot out of racing in in um uh
the mid to late two thousandsand uh, we had this big shop
that developed into now roboticsand uh fiber laser stuff.
Yeah, it just morphed becauseyou know our customers through
all the racing sponsorships andyou know whether it be OEMs,
(05:27):
ford or you know.
We started developing, gettingyou know, getting requests for
tolerance and parts that wecouldn't build with fabrication
machinery.
So we got into manufacturingand it's kind of unique because
the timeframe, if you thinkabout it, you know, this
advanced manufacturing machineryjust started to come out.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You know really the developments in….
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The technology was really behind for a long time.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It really was.
Yeah, you know, to manufacturesomething apart, you would have
to think about big volume.
You know you'd have to build amold for it.
Stamp that part out.
Now we can build a realhigh-toler tolerance part over
and over again.
You know hundreds of thousandsof them, um, one at a time, you
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know, and they can happen realfast through advanced
manufacturing, machinery androbotics.
So, um, you know, we grew ourshop to that stage and then my
son, uh, instead of following inthe racing steps, he, he went
into the engineering and started, uh, became a really an expert
in the software that we use toto really design anything and
build anything.
It's all drawn and thatsoftware's uh, it's done in in
writing first before anything'ssent to the the uh machines,
(06:35):
obviously, and uh, we're able toverbalize that and everybody's
on the same page.
So, but, uh, you know, we, we,I've been in manufacturing now a
little over 25 years.
I've been around it my wholelife.
But you know what I really like?
I mean, obviously I still likemoney, but but I, what I really
(06:56):
like is I really like to buildand create.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, you know, you've always had that artistic
mind.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's what really.
You know, at the end of the day, what's the best reward for me?
That feeling I get when youknow someone like you, you know,
that has this vision ofsomething, comes to me and says
can we do this, can we do that?
And you know, I think of it,about it, and figure out how to
do it.
You know, put our headstogether and we, we develop a
concept and then you basicallybuild people's dreams.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You make them.
You make dreams come true.
Yeah, I love it.
That's really what you do.
Yeah, I love love to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So that's my dream, you know, I guess.
Um, so it's, it's been a, it'sbeen a great journey and it
continues to even get better andbetter.
You know there were a lot ofthe stuff after we moved from
Southern California to know is.
Some people think it's a stepback.
For me it's leaps forwardbecause it's, you know, we're in
(07:50):
all this different developmentindustry.
I would agree.
You know structural steel andeverything.
I mean it's really neat, yeah,so I really enjoy that.
But you know, in terms ofmanufacturing, we can, you know,
at my factory we haveeverything from.
You know, we specialize insteel.
We have an aerospace machineshop.
We're an ANSI ISO machine shop,and then we have same thing in
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terms of quality in our sheetmetal and our forming.
So we have big fiber lasers androbotic brakes and whatnot.
We do all welding in-house.
We have the ability to dorobotic welding.
We do powder coat in-house.
We do computer science,circuitry, so we can design
circuitry, peripherals, thosesort of things all in-house.
(08:31):
It's a lot of fun Back in theday with racing.
We've kept a lot of the flavorthat we've had with racing, like
the large format print, thevehicle wrap stuff and all of
this you know, and the graphicarts and whatnot.
You know, my graphic artistshas been with me since the
racing days, you know, and hewas an apprentice to the real
graphic artists, you know.
That's, you know, passed on nowbut anyhow, um, it's been kind
(08:54):
of neat, you know, to keep thoseaccounts and keep that going
and at being able to add thesethings to manufacturing and
everything that it brings.
So, cause it, it does bringanother element, all these extra
little tools that you have.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Oh, you bet.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
But I got to say I love working with you, ryan, and
your projects.
It makes me put extra effortinto those projects because of
how special they are and how youcare about your projects, which
I really am honored to workwith you and people like that
and and your vision.
So it's been a great journey,especially with you on your
(09:28):
projects, but all around it'sbeen great.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, I think, I think well.
First of all, thank you.
That means a lot, because wehave a lot of people that rely
on us.
You know, and I think one ofthe things I've learned the most
is whoever we engage with tohelp us build something, we want
them to really know what ourresponsibilities are you know
and how we need to reallyexecute.
We need the, you know, we needthe best of the best, you know,
(09:52):
and really a lot of it has to dowith time and speed and money.
Yeah, that's what it all comesdown to.
Yeah, it's really cool becausewe can build stuff like these
tables.
It's something that we want,which you've transitioned to, is
something that people need, youknow.
So you're, you've created aninstitutional grade
manufacturing company.
You are, you have, so the heavylift is done.
Right, you have plenty of room.
(10:13):
You can scale, you can getbigger.
I mean, you're big enough, butyou can get bigger if you want
to, you can do things at muchlarger scale.
I mean, obviously, you and Ihave been engaging for my, for
my audience that doesn't knowthis.
I have a barn caves project.
That's here in Lecavesu.
We're talking about about500,000 square feet, 93 units of
single family, three-story,standalone, single family
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detached homes, and this entirething is built out of steel, and
so there's not only paneling,but there's also a lot of
structural steel and otherarchitectural steel that goes
along with it.
And the thing about Ryan is isthat we went to him knowing that
his capacity is set up in a waywhere you can actually cater to
all of that product.
And because of just, I think,the overall economy and
(10:54):
political environment and justeverything that happened with
the fires and just kind of howwe positioned our brand, you
know, we knew that this willtake root and we have I mean we
I mean we have multiple, youknow sites across the country
that we're looking at buildingthese things, and so for us, it
was so important to align withsomebody who has the ability to
actually deliver on thoseresults, because if I'm going to
(11:15):
a bank and saying, hey, I needa hundred million, this is my
vision, I need to be able todeliver on that vision.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So I better go find the groups that are doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And so I better go find the groups that are doing
it.
And so I like to prideourselves that we like to bring
on the best of the best, and soit's so crazy that you were
right here in Lake Havasu.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I had no clue, bizarre.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I remember Eric calling me going hey, I got to
introduce you to my boy, ryan,and he's like I'm selling this
house, whatever.
I'm like, okay, yeah, and hekept remember I deal, hey, trust
me, you need to come see this.
I walk into guys, I walk intothis.
It's the old Kmart building inLake Havasu, okay, so you can
imagine, and it has 10-day doorson the front and I'm like, okay
, when I used to drive by it, Ithought you sold doors like a
(11:53):
furniture store, but doors and Iknew you probably did custom
doors, whatever, I'm in thespace, I get it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I get it.
Well, I'm like, I feel likeit's the front, I'm like you
might as well just put laundryroom, or laundry on the front,
bro, because you walk inside ofthis place and it's just like a
whole nother level.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I mean, you have robotic arms.
How many C or C?
Uh was it C?
Uh CNC machines you have?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Um six, six in the machine shop, but more than that
because all the labor uh lasertowers are CNC, the brakes are
CNC.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So probably 18 machines or somewhere in that
neighborhood.
Every time I take somebody overto brag about you and take me
on tour, what's the number onething I want you to always show?
Nitrogen generate telleverybody what you created.
Please, I do people need toknow what.
I didn't personally create it,but I've never seen it before in
my life when we came to thecity our late.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Our big lasers, our fiber lasers, with the robotic
towers, use an incredible amountof liquid nitrogen.
So where the old Kmart is, it'sreally the entrance to Main
Street here in Lake Havasu,which is a very affluent city in
Mojave.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
County.
It's the main vein in the city.
Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So anyway, the city wouldn't allow us.
At the old factory we had bignitrogen tanks and we'd get
semis come in and fill the tanksand whatnot.
The city wouldn't allow us.
At the old factory we had bignitrogen tanks and we'd get
semis come in and fill the tanksand whatnot.
The city wouldn't allow us todo that in the middle of the
city with apartments across andcondos.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The middle of the city exploding.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So I'm like well, we can't run our lasers without
nitrogen.
Anyway, I learned about thesenitrogen generation stations, so
we ended up putting one ofthose in which makes liquid
nitrogen out of the air tosupply our lasers with nitrogen.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
To break it down, it was millions of dollars, got it.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay, that's all I had to hear.
It's all millions of dollars.
All of it's millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's funny.
I walked out of there and Iremember calling my old man
because my old man is such atinker.
He loves this stuff.
He's such a tinker, he lovesthis stuff, he's all into it.
I'm like pops, and it wasbecause he's here in town.
I talk to him every day I'mlike you need to go see this guy
he's like.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm trying to explain what he's like wait, what?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
like?
Are you serious?
He walked in, remember, andbrought him in he's like what
the hell is going?
On and it was one of those.
It was actually because wealways talk about how lake
albacete, there's a, there's asomething just telling my a
friend of mine.
There's a brand.
A guy in the riviera has abrand new, uh kind of seg and
I'm like, dude, it's a fivemillion dollar car like.
(14:10):
But you who never think thatstuff is out here it is out here
and so the point is is that,you know, I would have never
thought a company like yours isout here.
So I walked into this thing andI'm like I gotta call my ceo
dude, because he will understandwhat we're trying to do overall
.
And I got to tell him about myboy, you know, and uh, and so it
just kind of took root.
But that's also what allowed usto kind of go into hey, what if
(14:31):
we went to manufacture thesethings?
And I say it all the time, youknow, and this is kind of going
back to the testament of, likewhat you've created.
You know, I tell people all thetime the people who made the
most money during the gold rushwere the ones who provided the
picks and the shovels.
Yeah, so, as I understand, youknow, I come from a debt
leverage background.
Right, I manage a hundredmillion dollar debt fund now,
and so, from a constructionfinancing first trustees, I get
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that world and I know about alot of developers and how it all
works, and so I'm sitting theregoing like man, we could
develop this product across thecountry, go to builders and say
you literally can stamp yourname on it, we'll just
manufacture the.
And so I looked at it from,because it was just the new
trend, you know, barn dominiumsis trendy.
The big garages are trendy, mancaves are trendy, like but
people, you can buy these forcheaper than a regular house and
(15:12):
your insurance is cheaper,right?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So because of the fires and so forth, so well, and
then the build and the time thebuild time is so much less with
them because of you know, likeRyan said, they're all made out
of steel and some structural andplate steel and whatnot.
But the way that the structuralgoes together isn't the
traditional way.
It's not, doesn't sit on pads,it's not, you know, bolted, it's
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not suspension bolt, it allsits in cradles.
So you're able to put this,this steel, together and it's
able to stack all together andfasten it and you're not hanging
it, so to speak, like you wouldstructural steel, so you're
able to get this barn dominiumin a kit and really, from start
to finish, pick everything outand it shows up on site and
(16:01):
there it is.
The number one thing we wait onwhen we're building is products
, the next, the next trade to bedone, and then you know product
.
You know products from themanufacturer to come in, the
next trade to be ready toinstall.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I mean, it's just this big, it's herding cats we
call it and in really, in manyways the way that it was
developed was kind of theforefront of thinking from a
management level, moving tradesin and kind of following each
other.
It's all about speed.
So we try to focus on designingand manufacturing this in a way
where the, the gc or us orwhoever is going to take these
things on, can do it in speedand make up the delta for going
after steel genius, genius,design.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
And you know he saves a trade of framing right off
the get.
So you know, and and manyothers because of the package
and, and you know how it'sdesigned.
But you know you start savingyou when you talk about framing.
It's one of the largestexpenses of building.
So, uh, you take that out.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I know, yeah, I know, you would know.
We're going to talk about thatin a minute, but keep going.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I know you would know , um, but, uh, anyhow it's, it's
just really uh, a dynamic wayto look at uh uh development on
a much more um, accelerated uhuh schedule and the quality of
the product too.
Usually, when you talk aboutaccelerated, you compromise
quality.
The quality of this product issecond to none because it's all,
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everything is built, it's not,oh, cut that off and join it
here on site, at the job site.
So, um, really, I'm realexcited about those.
You know the barn caves.
That project is just genius.
Um, I love to be part of thatteam and I and I thank you for
that.
But you know, I think that youknow, the architectural team
that you have on that too isjust, I'm just elated to work
(17:38):
with those guys.
You know the Salzburg from here, obviously, and and Rob and
Todd and whatnot but, but, uh,but steven beagle, and I mean
his, he's just a genius.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We have two, we have some two really good architects
yeah, aligned on this project,yeah people like you have two.
Yeah, we do, yeah, you sure doand they are really good.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So it's really neat, you know, and being in the trade
you know the number one thingyou pick on is architect,
because they forget something orwhatnot.
But you have the very best ofthe best of the best.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know it's funny.
A lot of people don't know this, but when you go and hire an
architect, if you're just tryingto focus on saving money, a lot
of times a good architect willactually help you with the
design build or the way it'sdesigned save you money.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And that's where it comes down.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's where the experience comes in.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
See it all the time.
You got a 40 foot span andsomeone's putting a 128 foot you
know pound a foot beam when youcould do a 68 pound a foot beam
there, which is just a hugedifference in cost savings.
You know one to the other, theother beam I-beam works to
strand the.
You know the distance but it's.
(18:40):
You know you don't need ahundred ton crane to put it in,
you need a cherry picker.
I mean to handle it andmanufacture it, to put the web
supports and everything in.
So having an experiencedarchitect that knows the right
engineers and everything righton the project will save the
developer loads of money.
That's probably a great, greatpoint to make, ryan, for the
(19:04):
listeners out there, because youknow, I see it over and over
again where someone you know theinexperience over engineer yep
over engineer and when you overengineer, you know the builder,
the developer pays for that.
It's a lot more money.
So, um, yeah, yeah, they cansave you a lot of money they
absolutely can.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And you know, I don't know if I ever told you this.
Do you know what I tell?
Sorry, I tell everybody, likeif I just want to battle with
him a little bit.
I said do you have a friend whoactually owns a crane truck?
Because I do so, just for ourlisteners to understand, let him
share with you.
So this man has grown hisbusiness so much that he now
owns a crane truck.
Okay, and so he got this thing.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Use it every day.
The guys use it every day.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm over at Dover and I'm like well, I think you
called me when you bought it.
I'm like well, I think youcalled me when you bought it.
I'm driving it home right now.
It won't go faster than 40.
I was like oh my gosh, you'redriving a crane truck home.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Well, I sent a transport.
It was on a.
It was used, obviously.
It was on a gold mine forever,so it never come off the dirt
and I sent a transport, aflatbed to get it.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You know, they're like have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
big.
Yeah, he's just like.
I'm like you know, this is aguy I do a lot of business with.
I'm like, just listen, steve,just get the damn crane bring it
.
You know he's like I can't see.
it's illegal, it's too high,it's all this and that.
I'm like I don't give a shit,just bring the thing, get you
know, bring the.
So anyway, he gets outside ofKingman and he calls me up.
He says I'm done.
I mean he's just done, he'sready to sever the relationship.
(20:29):
He says come get this train.
I'm taking it off my truckright now.
He says I'm going to prison.
Okay, it's like 19 feet tall.
He's got to drive aroundsignals.
Oh, my goodness gracious hecouldn't get under the
overpasses and whatnot, butanyhow.
So I end up going out therewith my wife to pass Kingman and
(20:49):
get in this thing.
And it's a six-speed, it's aclutch, the whole nine, this
huge semi-crane.
So it'll do about 60 downhillfull.
In neutral yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love it too, but anyway yeah, we use that a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's been a great addition to the fleet of crap we
have.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So let's talk about the structural steel that you
did for the family office andthe headquarters for Paradigm.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah well, paradigm, the family office, society, dla
headquarters we're building herein town and it's just
magnificent.
In a few months, that's whereall this will happen right, so
yeah it's just magnificent uhbuilding and and Ryan's vision
for that building.
but we're doing.
You know we've been involvedwith that project from the
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beginning.
We did all the uh structuralsteel there.
Um, uh, we're manufacturing allthe staircase there's there's
three floating staircases in it.
We're manufacturing roof fasciaand trim.
You know these big aluminumawnings that are all trick.
There's all neon lights around,all the attributes.
It's just such a beautiful, Imean such a tasteful building.
(22:04):
It's gorgeous.
So we got doors and windows.
We're doing all the doors andwindows in it, all dual pane,
quarter inch glass, beautifulaluminum extruded stuff.
All first class.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
This entire building.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
We're doing five huge accordion doors in that
building.
It's going to be a gorgeousbuilding, but you know we
started.
So we, you know we workedtogether with Ryan in the
beginning of when he designed itand whatnot, and then we went
through and worked with theconcrete guys.
Of course, dennis, you know,every day you know we work with
but the concrete guys and thenwe erected the steel and now
(22:39):
we've been building all thisother the stairs and the trim
and all the other stuff thatwe're doing this week, while all
the doors and windows arecoming in.
So it's a neat project.
You know I'm good, I'm excitedto get it done and it's coming
together real quick.
It's in the next, in the nextmonth.
I mean, it's been really it'sbeen huge project progress in
the last two months oh yeah youknow, it's been like whoa every
(23:01):
time you go there.
Okay, yeah, you know so I thinkwe planned it.
Well, we planned it out verywell we managed.
It real, it real well, well,and it's being managed every day
really well, I'm there everyday.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Dennis is there five times a day.
Dennis is just Takai's there,you're there, everyone's there.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, and you know, I think everybody involved with
it it's what I really like aboutworking on your projects is
everybody involved with it, hasownership in it and they really
want it done right, right.
They want to do the right thing, want to go to the extra mile,
and that's really the overallfeeling when you're working with
all the subs.
Obviously, dennis, you andDennis put that feeling out
(23:38):
there, but it's really neat todo that and work on something
first class and really work onsomething to make it great.
But this is going to be,without a doubt, if not, the
nicest building in around here Imean, there's nothing like that
.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
There's nothing, no, until you build the gym, you
know but you know we're justcoming real quick too.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But um, yeah, it's just, you know it's going to be.
Even in the frame state thatit's in right now, you can see
the quality of the building ohyeah, it's really gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I have people that are texting me and calling me
going.
I literally drove by yourbuilding for the first time.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
They're like that thing is insane it is built like
a brick shit house man, itwon't move.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean, a hurricane come out here and we're gonna be
the only ones that survive.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Tell me a little you know.
Tell the audience a littleabout your vision for that
building after it's done.
What you're doing there.
What's going on with familyoffice society?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
so ultimately.
So there's there's kind of anew trend out there it's called
family office networking andultimately think of it as as
somebody who's overseeing anetwork of people verifying
they're the real deal yeah,that's probably the best way to
put it Right.
I we're going to have a bunchof.
I have a lot of really goodpeople in my network that I
spent 20 years buildingrelationships with that I know
(24:48):
will deliver on what they saythey're going to deliver.
You know, and right now, withthe market and just everything
you see on social media, youdon't know who to believe
anymore.
And and and business is justgetting more and more difficult
and what I'm doing is I'm saying, hey guys, look I'm.
And even if it's a newrelationship or a referral, I
mean I'm still going to vet them.
I'm going to do.
I was times where if I want todo background checks, I can do
background checks.
We use clear for background forall the mortgages and so forth,
(25:10):
cause I lend.
You know I lend money tosecurity, so I always I have
background ability.
I could text my assistant rightnow, oh yeah.
I should start yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I got a list for you after this, where they live.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Oh yeah, but, and then you know, and then we have,
you know, the people that havebuilt businesses.
You know, honestly, when yousit back and you listen to the
people that have really workedhard for their money.
They've been kicked in theteeth a hundred million times to
get to where they are today andthat's how, for whatever reason
(25:50):
, the way that I knew that I hadthe right group was because
they care about their brand.
Yeah, like they're looking atthis going, hey, we respect
paradigm, we can't.
We know that tying ourselves toparadigm is going to help our
brand, yeah, and what we want todo is make sure we're
delivering the same type ofquality to the standard that
paradigm wants it, and then weare going to make it even better
than we've ever made it before.
(26:10):
And that's what.
Everything.
That's the feeling that I have.
So you can only imagine what itfeels like being in my shoes
when you have people thatactually give a shit.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And I have enough of people around me that don't give
a shit you know, don't we all?
Over time you can smell thereal ones Right, and so,
ultimately, what I'm doing isI'm trying to give value to like
my network and people by going,hey look, be a part of this
venue and everybody who's hereis the real deal.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And I've hated them.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, you know and now you can grow your business
with people I'll put them all inthe same room of people who
actually really know what thehell they're doing in their
trade.
Whether you're an attorney oryou know you're a CPA or you do
tax strategy or whatever wealthmanagement whatever they do,
they're going to be the best atyou know.
And then you also kind of havethose.
Other people are like I don'tneed to do anything, I'm retired
and have a lot of money.
Right, we like those people andwe just want to go play golf and
(26:56):
you know, have a you know golfsimulator, but they want to be
around like-minded people.
So you have you know a few golfsimulators, a couple of race
simulators.
You know it's really cool cars,whether it's luxury or old cars
.
You know supercars, trucks, allkinds of stuff that'll be in
this big space and it's kind oflike a talking piece.
It's like a nice watch that youand I are both wearing the same
freaking watch right now, bythe way.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And I don't know if you caught that Yours is nicer
than mine, but it's the samebrand.
This is older.
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It's the same brand, yeah, same watch same exact
watch yeah.
But you know, and then you knowwe're going to have, you know,
people can have brick and mortarif they want to have an office
in there.
We'll have people that can use,like the podcast studio.
Because we are so heavy inmarketing, we want to give our
tools to people that want togrow their business.
You know, I'm actually thinkingabout launching an entire
coaching program that's reallyset up for people who are trying
(27:47):
to raise capital and developand kind of like how to do all
of that right from.
You know how to identify a realestate property and check zoning
to acquisition strategy,contracts, negotiations, all the
way down to selecting the rightcontractors and the subs, down
to you know pro formas and youknow understanding the market
for financing and go raising acapital, opening a fund.
(28:08):
Like fund management, I'mliterally going to give people
soup to nuts on how to identifya good real estate deal, raise
the capital and make money atthe end.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And so what I want to do is offer that too.
But there's segments withinthere.
One big segment is marketingcreating awareness of what
you're trying to accomplish andbuild relationships.
So marketing is such afootprint for my company.
People can come in and justlook at how we practice on the
marketing side and just addvalue there.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So people are like well, hey, I've been wanting to,
I'm a developer, but I've neveropened a fund they can isolate.
I want to learn how to manage afund so people can come in and
no matter what stage you are inor really what business that
you're in, private equity hassome sort of play in your
business.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Right, so like veterinarians right, I was
talking to this the other dayveterinarians I don't know if
you know this, but veterinariansare one of the like private
equity firms are buyingveterinarians like crazy.
Because, as you know, you knowthey say by 2030, 50% of all
women over the age of 30 will bechildless and single.
And when you look at that, youlook at public products, like
you know, we'll just call somehair salons or hair whatever.
(29:12):
You know, all the beautyproducts are just booming, along
with pet food.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So you all, everyone's got dogs now and cats
now and animals if they'resingle.
It's just the way it's like athing you know?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So, but when you look at the valuations of those
companies, they're going throughthe roof.
So the point to all of that,going one tangent after another,
you know you have that kind oflike that, that kind of movement
.
You want to be able to buildawareness and start showing
people, kind of, how the worldworks and private equity.
So no matter what you do for aliving, there's some sort of
(29:44):
bigger institutional structurein play for you to scale your
business.
That's it in a nutshell, and ifit's not me, I have people in
the network that can probablyhelp you there.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Sure, that's it.
I think that's great.
Yeah, but it's a cool thing.
I've heard that you didn't knowthat.
No, I didn't know you weregoing to do that.
You saw probably like what wewere going to do with the cars
and so forth, yeah, andobviously it's headquarters.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Everybody will be under the same roof, tyc,
backgrounds and like all themarketing you can think of.
But a really cool venue,private venue.
You know you have to have yourown key fob, you have to be a
part of the network to get intothis place.
If it's really hot out here andyou don't want to go outside
and golf, you can go in thereand hit some golf balls.
You know if you want to, youknow if you like wine.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
we're going to have like a little wine.
You know, area we yeah, that'sgoing to be neat, so you can
kind of get away bring somefriends in there, network
business, whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
You know what I mean.
Like it's a big space so youcan entertain.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You know it's going to be a good business
environment.
You can have a little fun.
You know it'll be a good placeto meet and network and rub
elbows, and then I didn't knowyou were going to do that.
I could use a little schoolingon a few things.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Well, I'm sure I could go.
Well, you don't want to buildstuff, you got me to build stuff
.
Let's talk about a story Now.
This is probably the mostembarrassing story I've ever
said, but the very first time Icame and saw you, what the hell
did I do?
What's the rule?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
of thumb.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
What's the rule of thumb when you walk into a steel
manufacturing building?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Don't touch anything.
And what had happened?
Cut the shit out of yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I was so bad.
We left the blood on the floorfor about a month.
I remember I came back in likeI don't know a week later and
you're like, how's your finger?
It's still wrapped.
I'm like, well, I didn't go getstitches and everyone's telling
me I probably should, youshould have.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I was like what is it ?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Look at this huge rebar.
I'm like what's that for and Iwanted to pick it up Cause it's
like the biggest rebar I've everseen in my life and you're like
, oh yeah, it's a handrail.
I'm like someone's got to get ahandrail out of that thing.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So I wasn't thinking of that rail actually turned out
really neat.
It was from one of my generalcontractors that do a lot of
projects with his personal housein Williams.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Even though it bit me and I was bleeding, I still
think it was the coolest thingI've ever seen.
It was pretty cool.
It's funny man.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's funny because when the guys built his handrail
out of it, we had to take allthose galls and knurls off that
thing, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Handrail His wife's going to rip the arm off.
What it was is I grabbed theedge.
I grabbed the edge right whereit was cut.
That's why it had nothing to dowith actually railing.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It was just that edge right there, just that, yeah,
and that's normal.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I should have known.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Don't touch it Now, you know.
No, I do that judging me fromday one.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
They're like that's paradigm.
Yeah, but he's in here with Sam.
I was like, what is he doing?
You know, I'm just trying tomake my own brand, bro.
Yeah, that's great, but yeah,so, um.
So, with that said, I thinklike a lot of the the, the
(32:40):
architectural steel that youguys do, it's so impressive and
you guys had some uh.
So let's talk a little bitabout, like your doors, you know
, because the doors are reallyreally cool and, and you know,
my door in my front, in my fronthouse, I did not know it was
you those doors until not toolong ago.
But that door is so heavy.
It's like I try to telleverybody like go, go move my
door, yeah, and just see what.
That's the coolest door in theworld.
Man, I honestly think we'rejust saying it's a cool door.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
But we have about, uh , we have about real close to 2
000 of them that are built andall out in the world, um, but
they're, I think they're theworld's best door, and you know
a lot of architects, a lot ofdesigners, a lot of builders
think the same thing.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
People across the country are buying them, right
we?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
ship them all over the country.
The neat thing about our doorsis there's zero deflection in
the door, so you know whatdeflection is is you put your
foot down at the bottom of thedoor and pull on the handle,
does the door kind of twist andbend.
Every door that you do does?
Um, my doors don't.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
and I can, I can build them, they don't move
5,000 pounds which you know it'spretty neat.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You know people think , oh, they're so heavy, how can
you have a door that heavy?
You know old, you know smallpeople, older people can't open
it.
Yeah, you can, because thehinge system that you know is
built in the aerospace machineshop.
We redesigned those so, uh, ourdoors are really unique.
They're all custom made.
Um, you know we're shippingthem all over.
You know the country to youname it.
Um, you know, all over theworld.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Really what was that?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
there was a couple big doors that you just oh boy
how tall, big, heavy um, I cando so on our, like our pivot
doors.
I can do um, uh, 18 foot by 18foot door, double door set.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So nine foot doors, garage doors oh yeah, bigger
than my rv garage doors.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Well, look at, have you been out to iron wolf.
I didn't close the uh, Ienclosed the whole pool.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I knew that.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, I knew that just you know those are wasn't
one of those doors no, no, it'smy pivot doors, my big doors and
they're uh, you know thoseopenings are 24 foot feet, so
you have uh 12 foot wide, uh by14 foot doors.
You know they're pretty big andthose doors are probably 2500
pounds each each door more, yeah, yeah, yeah just the glass and
(34:42):
those doors were like 900 poundsjust so heavy than 2500.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
For sure, yeah, yeah, somewhere, yeah, somewhere up
there like a car, yeah you know.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
So they're all you know big, you know big stuff and
but they work really well.
I'm really proud of thatproduct.
Um, you know they're I'm reallyproud of, of anthony, how he's
designed that product andchristian that runs all of our
our uh machinery there.
But my son anthony, he's just asolid works.
Uh, that's the program we draweverything.
Inony, he's just a solid works.
Uh, that's the program we draweverything in.
(35:10):
Oh, he's just a solid worksgenius I watch it yeah, these
doors have, you know, almost 300different pieces inside of them
and they're all anythinganywhere from quarter inch to
eighth inch to half inch steel.
Um, they're all fiber, lasercut.
So they're actually you know,they're.
You know, if you order a door,uh, a certain size, it comes
within ten thousandths of aninch of that size.
I mean, it's exact.
(35:30):
But what's neat about it isAnthony's made it's aerospace
calcs.
It really is.
Yeah, and Anthony's made whichis real new for the door
industry.
But it's really neat for greatbig retrofit doors, like we're
doing a big house in PacificPalisades that has this huge
arch and it's all precast and hedoesn't want to ruin any of
(35:54):
that precast Cause it's like 60years old pre.
You know, precast came fromItaly and all this stuff you
know.
So we're able to build the doorexactly so it fits inside that
slot and the threshold andeverything else.
So, um, you know it works good.
But what Anthony did when we gotinto these doors cause he's
like every door is, you know,the 10-day doors.
We thought we were going tobuild a big bulk of doors and
then sell them.
So you know, we built a bunchof 42 by, you know, three and a
(36:15):
half by, uh, eight foot, 30 byeight foot, 60 by eight foot
door sets and you know westarted put the 10-day door
thing up there and we weremanufacturing all kinds of stuff
, but that was local, you know,and thought they'd come in and
buy those.
But everybody had come in andthey want a custom door.
So every single, all thosepieces, those 300 pieces inside
of that door, have to beadjusted every single time.
(36:36):
Exact.
The doors are even.
The hinges are offset dependingon the weight of the door,
cause there'll be a little bitof a door sag, so the hinges
offset, so everything's perfectyou know in terms of the fit and
finish all the way around.
But Anthony made this along withour computer scientist, daniel
made this program in SolidWorks,so he can basically pick the
(36:56):
style of door that you want youknow whether it's a pivot door
or a swing door or double dooror whatever and put these sizes
in and it automatically sizeseverything in the program and
we're able to boom, do a quickdoor for a customer and then
we're able to hit another buttonand flatten all the parts and
export those parts with the benddeductions and everything else
(37:19):
on them.
So they're just perfect.
And that's the only way we wereable to start to do volume in
the doors that macro that hecreated and these algorithms
that he created to do that.
So, but pretty neat, the doorbusiness is really good.
It's great.
Like I said, world's best doors, they're amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
So let me ask you this.
You guys, I mean, I go in thereand I just see so many
different things that you do.
So, what would you, if you cannarrow down what it is that you
have the capacity to do?
Just give us a list.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I think I can build.
We can build anything from aaerospace part to a spaceship.
I mean, you know it just, it'sjust engineers, and you know we
have.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I hope everybody knows why I like the guy.
I mean, we really can't, wereally can't you know so it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
You know, you know if the, if the contracts there and
the visions there, you know youstart to draw it and develop it
and you know it really.
You know if, uh, if Newton saidit could be done, it can be done
you know, if it doesn't definethe laws of physics, we're,
we're good, you know, um, so, uh, I think we can really build
(38:31):
anything that that a customerhas resources or wants.
Um, you know, and we don't justbuild it, we draw it, engineer
it, design it first, andeverybody's on the same page and
you get exactly what's drawn.
You know, that's kind of how webuild stuff, just like this
podcast table, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
But anyhow, I love.
It all right.
So I have a.
We're going to get into twodeeper questions sure because I
want everybody to know that foryou to be able to get to where
you are today, you've had totake some shots.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Right, I'm going to ask two big questions.
One of them and take a second.
What do you think one of thehardest things in life you've
had to ever go through?
I'm sure there's like four orfive ones that you decide to
blank out, but oh yeah, justthrow one at the, it could be.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I know there's enough .
Hardest things in life I've hadto go through is, uh, probably
being a father.
Um for sure it's been, uh, themost rewarding thing, uh, the
best thing in my life, but it'salso given me, you know, the
most challenges.
You know, um, it's been, um, uh, very challenging, you know,
and it's something that youalways question yourself Did you
(39:36):
do, were you good enough?
Could you done something more?
I mean, cause you have thesewonderful little lives and souls
that are, you know, adults now,that are, you know, uh, forging
their way through life.
They're thinking about having afamily themselves, and so it's
been, um, definitely, being afather has been the hardest
thing, um, but, uh, uh yeah, andso I'm on my second litter
(39:59):
right, I'm on my second litter.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
How many litter you're on your third.
You know it's so common.
It's funny because Stephen oryou know everyone's on their
third well, I'm about 10 yearsolder than you, right?
Everyone who's 10 years olderthan me is on their third litter
and I'm sitting there goinglike I don't know.
You know it's funny.
I'm justifying it with going.
You know, guys in my field areso used to having three litters.
Right, you know, my old mentorhas three litters.
Everyone's got three litters.
(40:23):
It's like at least I know whichway my life's going to go, but
anyway.
So let's talk a little bitabout what you and I discussed
just recently.
You're actually about to have alittle boy.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I am, yeah, congratulations.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
But that was stressful, which is not
something anybody should ever gothrough, and the only reason
I'm bringing it up is becausethere's actually a happy ending.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
So let's talk about kind of what the hell happened,
man, because that that wouldwhen you told when I, when you
told me this, I was so like, Ifelt, like I felt your pain yeah
as a dad and when you like, yousaid you just well, and I was
just worried about my wife, Imean her pain yeah, you know, I
mean, it was uh terriblesituation and you know I'll
(41:02):
share with the listeners here.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
uh, my wife's uh 42 years old.
She's never been pregnantbefore.
Uh, we got married back inOctober and, um, she got
pregnant in December and uh, weweren't planning it, she didn't
think she could get pregnant.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Why would you plan that?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Well, kids are wonderful, but yeah, no one's
planning, um, but uh, uh.
So she had a high riskpregnancy.
So we got to week uh, 21, 22,and uh, we go down to Phoenix
for medical care and whatnot,and we went to a specialist, you
know, to do a specialistultrasound for that stage or
(41:44):
whatnot, and um, we got someterrifying news that the baby,
uh, wasn't normal and wasn'tgoing to have a normal life, and
uh was a, uh had a dandy Walkeruh syndrome and um, uh, the
doctor told us that the baby,you know, was going to go
through surgeries the first fewyears of its life and and um
(42:07):
probably not lived past, youknow, nine years old, and it was
really um, um traumatic,especially for my wife, and you
know, since then it was abouttwo and a half weeks we were
hanging in that limbo andquestioning whether not to bring
a child in the world.
You know, we both don't believein abortion, but we also don't
believe in uh bringing a,bringing hurt into the world
(42:36):
either, you know, um.
So, anyhow, my wife was really,you know, for the for the two
weeks that this went on, um, andnow she, you know, right now
she's 30, uh, 31 weeks, um.
So for the few weeks that wenton until we got an ultrasound
and the genetic testing andeverything else to to find out
that the baby is normal.
Um, thank goodness, uh, it wasuh quite an experience.
(42:56):
And then you know you can'tstop, because you have all these
commitments to everybody.
You can't just say oh, it'shard, so I'm quitting.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
You know I'm taking, you can't you have to power
through it, you gotta powerthrough it.
So, yeah, that was got to powerthrough it.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
So, yeah, that was pretty traumatic lately in life.
But you know, throughout lifewe go through those things, you
know, constantly.
And I think when it involvesyou know, someone that's very
close to us, you know, andespecially our children, it can
be much more stressful thananything else.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I can feel my heart skip a beat right now.
It's just, oh God, that twoweek limbo.
You guys probably didn't evensleep.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
My poor wife and the stress that she had to go
through.
My poor thing, dude First baby,right the whole thing, it
shouldn't have been like thatand we still can't explain how
the doctor even came to that aconclusion yeah, but at least
you went and got another,another specialist's opinion.
Yeah, well, we got aneurosurgeon, an mri, and did
(43:57):
all the way past us.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, that's nothing betterthan that man, good, good lord.
So how far out is she now?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
uh, so she's, she's, uh seven weeks away from having
the baby so first week, uh uh,10th to 12th of september.
Um, they're gonna induce stabthem.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Well, my birthday's 9 , 11 I know bro so you said the
10th to the 12th.
I'm right in the middle man youcan name.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Name them ryan bro, that's great dude well, man.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Thank you very much for coming, dude.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Is there anything else you want our audience to
know about you?
But I do also want you to givethem.
Uh, how can people get ahold ofyou?
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Oh sure, yeah, Um uh, people get ahold of me directly
uh, at the factory, at ourfactory, anytime.
It's uh uh, premiermanufacturing or PMG
manufacturing, uh, 10-day Doorsin Lake Havasu.
Here I've had the same cellnumber for 33 years, so you can
call me on my cell or anythingelse, email me, text me.
I'd love you to get a hold ofme and I'd love to help you
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fulfill your dreams in any waythat I can.
And I appreciate you having meon, ryan, and genuinely
appreciate working with you, umuh, and all your projects uh,
current and the future and past.
So, uh, a lot of fun stuff.
It's good stuff, and you know Ilove to work with people that
that really throw their ballsout there and make it happen.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
You're a guy that has .
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Oh boy, you're a guy that has big vision and makes
everything come, come tofruition.
So I respect that a lot aboutyou and and, uh, your investors
really should.
Yeah, Um you're a guy thatreally gives a shit and breaks
his back to do what you say.
And and uh, they're few and farbetween nowadays.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
So thank you, it means a lot, brother, I really
do.
Thank you very much.
And guys, as you know, onto thenext really appreciate the
following Love you.
What's up everybody.
Welcome to Paradigm Shift.
I'm beyond excited todaybecause this is a guest that
we've had on once before.
We had the most traction periodinto story with this guy and he
is the sponsor of the ParadigmShift and we are sitting at a
table that probably costsroughly 30,000 that he decided
to donate for me to be mysponsor for the podcast.
So, ryan Bussinato, thank you,buddy, I love you.
(00:21):
Thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thanks for having Ryan.
I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So he owns 10 Day Doors here in town.
He also owns PMG Manufacturing.
I'm going to let him share hisstory and his background, but
it's very unique and I'm goingto pull some stuff out of him
that he's not ready for, becauseyou know me guys, I my guests,
but I also were.
I'm hoping that you guys aregoing to see another, uh, um, I
(00:46):
would say another resource foryou to use if you're somewhat in
my space or if you're lookingfor something special that's in
his lane.
I want you guys to be able toreach out to him, cause he's a,
he's got a, a gift, and I don'tsay that often to people.
I've been watching him for manyyears.
I actually have friends from 20years ago that used to work with
Ryan on some othermanufacturing materials, and
(01:07):
he's just he's, he's probablythe I don't even know how to
describe it, but he's probablyone of the best in his space.
And when you walk into hishundred and ten thousand square
foot office, if you will, he'sjust got robotic arms everywhere
and he's got different type ofyou know steel development being
built out and all kinds ofdifferent contracts, and he just
(01:28):
kind of can do it all.
So, ryan, again, buddy, I loveyou.
Thanks for being here.
You're one of my favoritepeople in the whole world.
I am your biggest fan, as youknow.
I refer everybody I can over toyou, because you've just made
me look really good and you'resaving me a shitload of money,
dude.
So I love you bro.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Appreciate you so much, right?
I really, really appreciate thekind words and thanks for
having me, of course.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
All right, so let's lead up into this.
I want you to share theaudience a little bit about you,
what you, what you do, a littlebit about your manufacturing
company, what's your specialty.
But let's talk real quick, goback to like the beginning, how
long you've up in the space andkind of where you are today.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, well, I really probably start with my
grandfather.
He was a, a metalers machinist,a tool and die maker, um really
really with a lot of accolades,did a lot of stuff in his day.
Uh had a machine shop and uhshop in Watts in Los Angeles all
through the 50s and 60s and 70sand from him came my father.
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There were two children, myfather and my aunt.
And my father, naturallybecause he grew up in the
machine shop, was a machinistbefore he graduated high school.
But he had a really neat story.
He was uh drafted, uh uh by theuh marine corps and uh went
down, signed up in the navy forvietnam and he was on a uh
(02:55):
machine ship um that did all therepairs for the other the fleet
.
He was, you know, on and uh themachinist, the head machinist
for the ship, died.
And here's my 18 year old fatherum fit in that position for
that machining ship, for thatfleet, and he was the head
machinist for the fleet and did,did uh all the machining and uh
(03:16):
really a master machinist and ametallurgist um.
So he he did a lot of work fora lot of refineries, like he's a
really a pump expert, which ifyou're a pump.
You know everything's a pump.
You know motor, you know uhcombustion motor.
I mean everything's kind of apump, but he's that's kind of
his lane pump expert andmachinist, metallurgist.
Um, he did a lot of work withrefineries when I was growing up
(03:39):
and then he did work with uh, alot of work I think 25, 30
years with southern cal,southern California Edison, the
nuclear power plant there.
So he was real well known allover the world for his pump work
and he developed the nuclearcanisters that the spent fuel
waste is in all over the worldnow he actually developed that.
That was his deal.
So pretty, pretty neat.
(04:00):
He's got a lot of, did a lot ofstuff.
And you know when I came out ofhigh school I went through a
apprenticeship with him atSouthern California Edison and I
was also selling cars, you knowwhen I was going through red
badge training.
So you know I liked money, youknow, and I liked what money
could buy and whatnot.
(04:20):
And I didn't see myself, don'twe all?
Yeah, I didn't see myself goingthrough a um, uh being a
machinist um, which I'm not uh,but went through that
apprenticeship and uh worked for16 months out at Edison and
then went back to selling carsand then became a car dealer.
And um, when I bought my firstHonda dealer, my son was about
(04:44):
six years old and we went intoracing off-road racing so we
developed the biggest, largestoff-road racing team and short
course at the time, and thendesert and a lot of other stuff.
So we developed a race shop, ifyou will, which had a lot of
fabrication tools in it, youknow, hand fabrication tools.
(05:06):
And then over the years, uh, wegot out of racing in in um uh
the mid to late two thousandsand uh, we had this big shop
that developed into now roboticsand uh fiber laser stuff.
Yeah, it just morphed becauseyou know our customers through
all the racing sponsorships andyou know whether it be OEMs,
(05:27):
ford or you know.
We started developing, gettingyou know, getting requests for
tolerance and parts that wecouldn't build with fabrication
machinery.
So we got into manufacturingand it's kind of unique because
the timeframe, if you thinkabout it, you know, this
advanced manufacturing machineryjust started to come out.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You know really the developments in….
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The technology was really behind for a long time.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It really was.
Yeah, you know, to manufacturesomething apart, you would have
to think about big volume.
You know you'd have to build amold for it.
Stamp that part out.
Now we can build a realhigh-toler tolerance part over
and over again.
You know hundreds of thousandsof them, um, one at a time, you
(06:12):
know, and they can happen realfast through advanced
manufacturing, machinery androbotics.
So, um, you know, we grew ourshop to that stage and then my
son, uh, instead of following inthe racing steps, he, he went
into the engineering and started, uh, became a really an expert
in the software that we use toto really design anything and
build anything.
It's all drawn and thatsoftware's uh, it's done in in
writing first before anything'ssent to the the uh machines,
(06:35):
obviously, and uh, we're able toverbalize that and everybody's
on the same page.
So, but, uh, you know, we, we,I've been in manufacturing now a
little over 25 years.
I've been around it my wholelife.
But you know what I really like?
I mean, obviously I still likemoney, but but I, what I really
(06:56):
like is I really like to buildand create.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, you know, you've always had that artistic
mind.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's what really.
You know, at the end of the day, what's the best reward for me?
That feeling I get when youknow someone like you, you know,
that has this vision ofsomething, comes to me and says
can we do this, can we do that?
And you know, I think of it,about it, and figure out how to
do it.
You know, put our headstogether and we, we develop a
concept and then you basicallybuild people's dreams.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You make them.
You make dreams come true.
Yeah, I love it.
That's really what you do.
Yeah, I love love to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So that's my dream, you know, I guess.
Um, so it's, it's been a, it'sbeen a great journey and it
continues to even get better andbetter.
You know there were a lot ofthe stuff after we moved from
Southern California to know is.
Some people think it's a stepback.
For me it's leaps forwardbecause it's, you know, we're in
(07:50):
all this different developmentindustry.
I would agree.
You know structural steel andeverything.
I mean it's really neat, yeah,so I really enjoy that.
But you know, in terms ofmanufacturing, we can, you know,
at my factory we haveeverything from.
You know, we specialize insteel.
We have an aerospace machineshop.
We're an ANSI ISO machine shop,and then we have same thing in
(08:10):
terms of quality in our sheetmetal and our forming.
So we have big fiber lasers androbotic brakes and whatnot.
We do all welding in-house.
We have the ability to dorobotic welding.
We do powder coat in-house.
We do computer science,circuitry, so we can design
circuitry, peripherals, thosesort of things all in-house.
(08:31):
It's a lot of fun Back in theday with racing.
We've kept a lot of the flavorthat we've had with racing, like
the large format print, thevehicle wrap stuff and all of
this you know, and the graphicarts and whatnot.
You know, my graphic artistshas been with me since the
racing days, you know, and hewas an apprentice to the real
graphic artists, you know.
That's, you know, passed on nowbut anyhow, um, it's been kind
(08:54):
of neat, you know, to keep thoseaccounts and keep that going
and at being able to add thesethings to manufacturing and
everything that it brings.
So, cause it, it does bringanother element, all these extra
little tools that you have.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Oh, you bet.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
But I got to say I love working with you, ryan, and
your projects.
It makes me put extra effortinto those projects because of
how special they are and how youcare about your projects, which
I really am honored to workwith you and people like that
and and your vision.
So it's been a great journey,especially with you on your
(09:28):
projects, but all around it'sbeen great.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, I think, I think well.
First of all, thank you.
That means a lot, because wehave a lot of people that rely
on us.
You know, and I think one ofthe things I've learned the most
is whoever we engage with tohelp us build something, we want
them to really know what ourresponsibilities are you know
and how we need to reallyexecute.
We need the, you know, we needthe best of the best, you know,
(09:52):
and really a lot of it has to dowith time and speed and money.
Yeah, that's what it all comesdown to.
Yeah, it's really cool becausewe can build stuff like these
tables.
It's something that we want,which you've transitioned to, is
something that people need, youknow.
So you're, you've created aninstitutional grade
manufacturing company.
You are, you have, so the heavylift is done.
Right, you have plenty of room.
(10:13):
You can scale, you can getbigger.
I mean, you're big enough, butyou can get bigger if you want
to, you can do things at muchlarger scale.
I mean, obviously, you and Ihave been engaging for my, for
my audience that doesn't knowthis.
I have a barn caves project.
That's here in Lecavesu.
We're talking about about500,000 square feet, 93 units of
single family, three-story,standalone, single family
(10:33):
detached homes, and this entirething is built out of steel, and
so there's not only paneling,but there's also a lot of
structural steel and otherarchitectural steel that goes
along with it.
And the thing about Ryan is isthat we went to him knowing that
his capacity is set up in a waywhere you can actually cater to
all of that product.
And because of just, I think,the overall economy and
(10:54):
political environment and justeverything that happened with
the fires and just kind of howwe positioned our brand, you
know, we knew that this willtake root and we have I mean we
I mean we have multiple, youknow sites across the country
that we're looking at buildingthese things, and so for us, it
was so important to align withsomebody who has the ability to
actually deliver on thoseresults, because if I'm going to
(11:15):
a bank and saying, hey, I needa hundred million, this is my
vision, I need to be able todeliver on that vision.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So I better go find the groups that are doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And so I better go find the groups that are doing
it.
And so I like to prideourselves that we like to bring
on the best of the best, and soit's so crazy that you were
right here in Lake Havasu.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I had no clue, bizarre.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I remember Eric calling me going hey, I got to
introduce you to my boy, ryan,and he's like I'm selling this
house, whatever.
I'm like, okay, yeah, and hekept remember I deal, hey, trust
me, you need to come see this.
I walk into guys, I walk intothis.
It's the old Kmart building inLake Havasu, okay, so you can
imagine, and it has 10-day doorson the front and I'm like, okay
, when I used to drive by it, Ithought you sold doors like a
(11:53):
furniture store, but doors and Iknew you probably did custom
doors, whatever, I'm in thespace, I get it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I get it.
Well, I'm like, I feel likeit's the front, I'm like you
might as well just put laundryroom, or laundry on the front,
bro, because you walk inside ofthis place and it's just like a
whole nother level.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I mean, you have robotic arms.
How many C or C?
Uh was it C?
Uh CNC machines you have?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Um six, six in the machine shop, but more than that
because all the labor uh lasertowers are CNC, the brakes are
CNC.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So probably 18 machines or somewhere in that
neighborhood.
Every time I take somebody overto brag about you and take me
on tour, what's the number onething I want you to always show?
Nitrogen generate telleverybody what you created.
Please, I do people need toknow what.
I didn't personally create it,but I've never seen it before in
my life when we came to thecity our late.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Our big lasers, our fiber lasers, with the robotic
towers, use an incredible amountof liquid nitrogen.
So where the old Kmart is, it'sreally the entrance to Main
Street here in Lake Havasu,which is a very affluent city in
Mojave.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
County.
It's the main vein in the city.
Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So anyway, the city wouldn't allow us.
At the old factory we had bignitrogen tanks and we'd get
semis come in and fill the tanksand whatnot.
The city wouldn't allow us.
At the old factory we had bignitrogen tanks and we'd get
semis come in and fill the tanksand whatnot.
The city wouldn't allow us todo that in the middle of the
city with apartments across andcondos.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The middle of the city exploding.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So I'm like well, we can't run our lasers without
nitrogen.
Anyway, I learned about thesenitrogen generation stations, so
we ended up putting one ofthose in which makes liquid
nitrogen out of the air tosupply our lasers with nitrogen.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
To break it down, it was millions of dollars, got it.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay, that's all I had to hear.
It's all millions of dollars.
All of it's millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's funny.
I walked out of there and Iremember calling my old man
because my old man is such atinker.
He loves this stuff.
He's such a tinker, he lovesthis stuff, he's all into it.
I'm like pops, and it wasbecause he's here in town.
I talk to him every day I'mlike you need to go see this guy
he's like.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm trying to explain what he's like wait, what?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
like?
Are you serious?
He walked in, remember, andbrought him in he's like what
the hell is going?
On and it was one of those.
It was actually because wealways talk about how lake
albacete, there's a, there's asomething just telling my a
friend of mine.
There's a brand.
A guy in the riviera has abrand new, uh kind of seg and
I'm like, dude, it's a fivemillion dollar car like.
(14:10):
But you who never think thatstuff is out here it is out here
and so the point is is that,you know, I would have never
thought a company like yours isout here.
So I walked into this thing andI'm like I gotta call my ceo
dude, because he will understandwhat we're trying to do overall
.
And I got to tell him about myboy, you know, and uh, and so it
just kind of took root.
But that's also what allowed usto kind of go into hey, what if
(14:31):
we went to manufacture thesethings?
And I say it all the time, youknow, and this is kind of going
back to the testament of, likewhat you've created.
You know, I tell people all thetime the people who made the
most money during the gold rushwere the ones who provided the
picks and the shovels.
Yeah, so, as I understand, youknow, I come from a debt
leverage background.
Right, I manage a hundredmillion dollar debt fund now,
and so, from a constructionfinancing first trustees, I get
(14:52):
that world and I know about alot of developers and how it all
works, and so I'm sitting theregoing like man, we could
develop this product across thecountry, go to builders and say
you literally can stamp yourname on it, we'll just
manufacture the.
And so I looked at it from,because it was just the new
trend, you know, barn dominiumsis trendy.
The big garages are trendy, mancaves are trendy, like but
people, you can buy these forcheaper than a regular house and
(15:12):
your insurance is cheaper,right?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So because of the fires and so forth, so well, and
then the build and the time thebuild time is so much less with
them because of you know, likeRyan said, they're all made out
of steel and some structural andplate steel and whatnot.
But the way that the structuralgoes together isn't the
traditional way.
It's not, doesn't sit on pads,it's not, you know, bolted, it's
(15:39):
not suspension bolt, it allsits in cradles.
So you're able to put this,this steel, together and it's
able to stack all together andfasten it and you're not hanging
it, so to speak, like you wouldstructural steel, so you're
able to get this barn dominiumin a kit and really, from start
to finish, pick everything outand it shows up on site and
(16:01):
there it is.
The number one thing we wait onwhen we're building is products
, the next, the next trade to bedone, and then you know product
.
You know products from themanufacturer to come in, the
next trade to be ready toinstall.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I mean, it's just this big, it's herding cats we
call it and in really, in manyways the way that it was
developed was kind of theforefront of thinking from a
management level, moving tradesin and kind of following each
other.
It's all about speed.
So we try to focus on designingand manufacturing this in a way
where the, the gc or us orwhoever is going to take these
things on, can do it in speedand make up the delta for going
after steel genius, genius,design.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
And you know he saves a trade of framing right off
the get.
So you know, and and manyothers because of the package
and, and you know how it'sdesigned.
But you know you start savingyou when you talk about framing.
It's one of the largestexpenses of building.
So, uh, you take that out.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I know, yeah, I know, you would know.
We're going to talk about thatin a minute, but keep going.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I know you would know , um, but, uh, anyhow it's, it's
just really uh, a dynamic wayto look at uh uh development on
a much more um, accelerated uhuh schedule and the quality of
the product too.
Usually, when you talk aboutaccelerated, you compromise
quality.
The quality of this product issecond to none because it's all,
(17:17):
everything is built, it's not,oh, cut that off and join it
here on site, at the job site.
So, um, really, I'm realexcited about those.
You know the barn caves.
That project is just genius.
Um, I love to be part of thatteam and I and I thank you for
that.
But you know, I think that youknow, the architectural team
that you have on that too isjust, I'm just elated to work
(17:38):
with those guys.
You know the Salzburg from here, obviously, and and Rob and
Todd and whatnot but, but, uh,but steven beagle, and I mean
his, he's just a genius.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
We have two, we have some two really good architects
yeah, aligned on this project,yeah people like you have two.
Yeah, we do, yeah, you sure doand they are really good.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So it's really neat, you know, and being in the trade
you know the number one thingyou pick on is architect,
because they forget something orwhatnot.
But you have the very best ofthe best of the best.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know it's funny.
A lot of people don't know this, but when you go and hire an
architect, if you're just tryingto focus on saving money, a lot
of times a good architect willactually help you with the
design build or the way it'sdesigned save you money.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And that's where it comes down.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's where the experience comes in.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
See it all the time.
You got a 40 foot span andsomeone's putting a 128 foot you
know pound a foot beam when youcould do a 68 pound a foot beam
there, which is just a hugedifference in cost savings.
You know one to the other, theother beam I-beam works to
strand the.
You know the distance but it's.
(18:40):
You know you don't need ahundred ton crane to put it in,
you need a cherry picker.
I mean to handle it andmanufacture it, to put the web
supports and everything in.
So having an experiencedarchitect that knows the right
engineers and everything righton the project will save the
developer loads of money.
That's probably a great, greatpoint to make, ryan, for the
(19:04):
listeners out there, because youknow, I see it over and over
again where someone you know theinexperience over engineer yep
over engineer and when you overengineer, you know the builder,
the developer pays for that.
It's a lot more money.
So, um, yeah, yeah, they cansave you a lot of money they
absolutely can.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And you know, I don't know if I ever told you this.
Do you know what I tell?
Sorry, I tell everybody, likeif I just want to battle with
him a little bit.
I said do you have a friend whoactually owns a crane truck?
Because I do so, just for ourlisteners to understand, let him
share with you.
So this man has grown hisbusiness so much that he now
owns a crane truck.
Okay, and so he got this thing.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Use it every day.
The guys use it every day.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm over at Dover and I'm like well, I think you
called me when you bought it.
I'm like well, I think youcalled me when you bought it.
I'm driving it home right now.
It won't go faster than 40.
I was like oh my gosh, you'redriving a crane truck home.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Well, I sent a transport.
It was on a.
It was used, obviously.
It was on a gold mine forever,so it never come off the dirt
and I sent a transport, aflatbed to get it.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
You know, they're like have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
big.
Yeah, he's just like.
I'm like you know, this is aguy I do a lot of business with.
I'm like, just listen, steve,just get the damn crane bring it
.
You know he's like I can't see.
it's illegal, it's too high,it's all this and that.
I'm like I don't give a shit,just bring the thing, get you
know, bring the.
So anyway, he gets outside ofKingman and he calls me up.
He says I'm done.
I mean he's just done, he'sready to sever the relationship.
(20:29):
He says come get this train.
I'm taking it off my truckright now.
He says I'm going to prison.
Okay, it's like 19 feet tall.
He's got to drive aroundsignals.
Oh, my goodness gracious hecouldn't get under the
overpasses and whatnot, butanyhow.
So I end up going out therewith my wife to pass Kingman and
(20:49):
get in this thing.
And it's a six-speed, it's aclutch, the whole nine, this
huge semi-crane.
So it'll do about 60 downhillfull.
In neutral yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I love it too, but anyway yeah, we use that a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's been a great addition to the fleet of crap we
have.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So let's talk about the structural steel that you
did for the family office andthe headquarters for Paradigm.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah well, paradigm, the family office, society, dla
headquarters we're building herein town and it's just
magnificent.
In a few months, that's whereall this will happen right, so
yeah it's just magnificent uhbuilding and and Ryan's vision
for that building.
but we're doing.
You know we've been involvedwith that project from the
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beginning.
We did all the uh structuralsteel there.
Um, uh, we're manufacturing allthe staircase there's there's
three floating staircases in it.
We're manufacturing roof fasciaand trim.
You know these big aluminumawnings that are all trick.
There's all neon lights around,all the attributes.
It's just such a beautiful, Imean such a tasteful building.
(22:04):
It's gorgeous.
So we got doors and windows.
We're doing all the doors andwindows in it, all dual pane,
quarter inch glass, beautifulaluminum extruded stuff.
All first class.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
This entire building.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
We're doing five huge accordion doors in that
building.
It's going to be a gorgeousbuilding, but you know we
started.
So we, you know we workedtogether with Ryan in the
beginning of when he designed itand whatnot, and then we went
through and worked with theconcrete guys.
Of course, dennis, you know,every day you know we work with
but the concrete guys and thenwe erected the steel and now
(22:39):
we've been building all thisother the stairs and the trim
and all the other stuff thatwe're doing this week, while all
the doors and windows arecoming in.
So it's a neat project.
You know I'm good, I'm excitedto get it done and it's coming
together real quick.
It's in the next, in the nextmonth.
I mean, it's been really it'sbeen huge project progress in
the last two months oh yeah youknow, it's been like whoa every
(23:01):
time you go there.
Okay, yeah, you know so I thinkwe planned it.
Well, we planned it out verywell we managed.
It real, it real well, well,and it's being managed every day
really well, I'm there everyday.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Dennis is there five times a day.
Dennis is just Takai's there,you're there, everyone's there.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, and you know, I think everybody involved with
it it's what I really like aboutworking on your projects is
everybody involved with it, hasownership in it and they really
want it done right, right.
They want to do the right thing, want to go to the extra mile,
and that's really the overallfeeling when you're working with
all the subs.
Obviously, dennis, you andDennis put that feeling out
(23:38):
there, but it's really neat todo that and work on something
first class and really work onsomething to make it great.
But this is going to be,without a doubt, if not, the
nicest building in around here Imean, there's nothing like that
.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
There's nothing, no, until you build the gym, you
know but you know we're justcoming real quick too.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But um, yeah, it's just, you know it's going to be.
Even in the frame state thatit's in right now, you can see
the quality of the building ohyeah, it's really gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I have people that are texting me and calling me
going.
I literally drove by yourbuilding for the first time.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
They're like that thing is insane it is built like
a brick shit house man, itwon't move.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean, a hurricane come out here and we're gonna be
the only ones that survive.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Tell me a little you know.
Tell the audience a littleabout your vision for that
building after it's done.
What you're doing there.
What's going on with familyoffice society?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
so ultimately.
So there's there's kind of anew trend out there it's called
family office networking andultimately think of it as as
somebody who's overseeing anetwork of people verifying
they're the real deal yeah,that's probably the best way to
put it Right.
I we're going to have a bunchof.
I have a lot of really goodpeople in my network that I
spent 20 years buildingrelationships with that I know
(24:48):
will deliver on what they saythey're going to deliver.
You know, and right now, withthe market and just everything
you see on social media, youdon't know who to believe
anymore.
And and and business is justgetting more and more difficult
and what I'm doing is I'm saying, hey guys, look I'm.
And even if it's a newrelationship or a referral, I
mean I'm still going to vet them.
I'm going to do.
I was times where if I want todo background checks, I can do
background checks.
We use clear for background forall the mortgages and so forth,
(25:10):
cause I lend.
You know I lend money tosecurity, so I always I have
background ability.
I could text my assistant rightnow, oh yeah.
I should start yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I got a list for you after this, where they live.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Oh yeah, but, and then you know, and then we have,
you know, the people that havebuilt businesses.
You know, honestly, when yousit back and you listen to the
people that have really workedhard for their money.
They've been kicked in theteeth a hundred million times to
get to where they are today andthat's how, for whatever reason
(25:50):
, the way that I knew that I hadthe right group was because
they care about their brand.
Yeah, like they're looking atthis going, hey, we respect
paradigm, we can't.
We know that tying ourselves toparadigm is going to help our
brand, yeah, and what we want todo is make sure we're
delivering the same type ofquality to the standard that
paradigm wants it, and then weare going to make it even better
than we've ever made it before.
(26:10):
And that's what.
Everything.
That's the feeling that I have.
So you can only imagine what itfeels like being in my shoes
when you have people thatactually give a shit.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And I have enough of people around me that don't give
a shit you know, don't we all?
Over time you can smell thereal ones Right, and so,
ultimately, what I'm doing isI'm trying to give value to like
my network and people by going,hey look, be a part of this
venue and everybody who's hereis the real deal.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And I've hated them.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, you know and now you can grow your business
with people I'll put them all inthe same room of people who
actually really know what thehell they're doing in their
trade.
Whether you're an attorney oryou know you're a CPA or you do
tax strategy or whatever wealthmanagement whatever they do,
they're going to be the best atyou know.
And then you also kind of havethose.
Other people are like I don'tneed to do anything, I'm retired
and have a lot of money.
Right, we like those people andwe just want to go play golf and
(26:56):
you know, have a you know golfsimulator, but they want to be
around like-minded people.
So you have you know a few golfsimulators, a couple of race
simulators.
You know it's really cool cars,whether it's luxury or old cars
.
You know supercars, trucks, allkinds of stuff that'll be in
this big space and it's kind oflike a talking piece.
It's like a nice watch that youand I are both wearing the same
freaking watch right now, bythe way.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And I don't know if you caught that Yours is nicer
than mine, but it's the samebrand.
This is older.
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
It's the same brand, yeah, same watch same exact
watch yeah.
But you know, and then you knowwe're going to have, you know,
people can have brick and mortarif they want to have an office
in there.
We'll have people that can use,like the podcast studio.
Because we are so heavy inmarketing, we want to give our
tools to people that want togrow their business.
You know, I'm actually thinkingabout launching an entire
coaching program that's reallyset up for people who are trying
(27:47):
to raise capital and developand kind of like how to do all
of that right from.
You know how to identify a realestate property and check zoning
to acquisition strategy,contracts, negotiations, all the
way down to selecting the rightcontractors and the subs, down
to you know pro formas and youknow understanding the market
for financing and go raising acapital, opening a fund.
(28:08):
Like fund management, I'mliterally going to give people
soup to nuts on how to identifya good real estate deal, raise
the capital and make money atthe end.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And so what I want to do is offer that too.
But there's segments withinthere.
One big segment is marketingcreating awareness of what
you're trying to accomplish andbuild relationships.
So marketing is such afootprint for my company.
People can come in and justlook at how we practice on the
marketing side and just addvalue there.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So people are like well, hey, I've been wanting to,
I'm a developer, but I've neveropened a fund they can isolate.
I want to learn how to manage afund so people can come in and
no matter what stage you are inor really what business that
you're in, private equity hassome sort of play in your
business.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Right, so like veterinarians right, I was
talking to this the other dayveterinarians I don't know if
you know this, but veterinariansare one of the like private
equity firms are buyingveterinarians like crazy.
Because, as you know, you knowthey say by 2030, 50% of all
women over the age of 30 will bechildless and single.
And when you look at that, youlook at public products, like
you know, we'll just call somehair salons or hair whatever.
(29:12):
You know, all the beautyproducts are just booming, along
with pet food.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So you all, everyone's got dogs now and cats
now and animals if they'resingle.
It's just the way it's like athing you know?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So, but when you look at the valuations of those
companies, they're going throughthe roof.
So the point to all of that,going one tangent after another,
you know you have that kind oflike that, that kind of movement
.
You want to be able to buildawareness and start showing
people, kind of, how the worldworks and private equity.
So no matter what you do for aliving, there's some sort of
(29:44):
bigger institutional structurein play for you to scale your
business.
That's it in a nutshell, and ifit's not me, I have people in
the network that can probablyhelp you there.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Sure, that's it.
I think that's great.
Yeah, but it's a cool thing.
I've heard that you didn't knowthat.
No, I didn't know you weregoing to do that.
You saw probably like what wewere going to do with the cars
and so forth, yeah, andobviously it's headquarters.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Everybody will be under the same roof, tyc,
backgrounds and like all themarketing you can think of.
But a really cool venue,private venue.
You know you have to have yourown key fob, you have to be a
part of the network to get intothis place.
If it's really hot out here andyou don't want to go outside
and golf, you can go in thereand hit some golf balls.
You know if you want to, youknow if you like wine.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
we're going to have like a little wine.
You know, area we yeah, that'sgoing to be neat, so you can
kind of get away bring somefriends in there, network
business, whatever.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
You know what I mean.
Like it's a big space so youcan entertain.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You know it's going to be a good business
environment.
You can have a little fun.
You know it'll be a good placeto meet and network and rub
elbows, and then I didn't knowyou were going to do that.
I could use a little schoolingon a few things.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Well, I'm sure I could go.
Well, you don't want to buildstuff, you got me to build stuff
.
Let's talk about a story Now.
This is probably the mostembarrassing story I've ever
said, but the very first time Icame and saw you, what the hell
did I do?
What's the rule?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
of thumb.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
What's the rule of thumb when you walk into a steel
manufacturing building?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Don't touch anything.
And what had happened?
Cut the shit out of yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I was so bad.
We left the blood on the floorfor about a month.
I remember I came back in likeI don't know a week later and
you're like, how's your finger?
It's still wrapped.
I'm like, well, I didn't go getstitches and everyone's telling
me I probably should, youshould have.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I was like what is it ?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Look at this huge rebar.
I'm like what's that for and Iwanted to pick it up Cause it's
like the biggest rebar I've everseen in my life and you're like
, oh yeah, it's a handrail.
I'm like someone's got to get ahandrail out of that thing.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So I wasn't thinking of that rail actually turned out
really neat.
It was from one of my generalcontractors that do a lot of
projects with his personal housein Williams.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Even though it bit me and I was bleeding, I still
think it was the coolest thingI've ever seen.
It was pretty cool.
It's funny man.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's funny because when the guys built his handrail
out of it, we had to take allthose galls and knurls off that
thing, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Handrail His wife's going to rip the arm off.
What it was is I grabbed theedge.
I grabbed the edge right whereit was cut.
That's why it had nothing to dowith actually railing.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It was just that edge right there, just that, yeah,
and that's normal.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I should have known.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Don't touch it Now, you know.
No, I do that judging me fromday one.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
They're like that's paradigm.
Yeah, but he's in here with Sam.
I was like, what is he doing?
You know, I'm just trying tomake my own brand, bro.
Yeah, that's great, but yeah,so, um.
So, with that said, I thinklike a lot of the the, the
(32:40):
architectural steel that youguys do, it's so impressive and
you guys had some uh.
So let's talk a little bitabout, like your doors, you know
, because the doors are reallyreally cool and, and you know,
my door in my front, in my fronthouse, I did not know it was
you those doors until not toolong ago.
But that door is so heavy.
It's like I try to telleverybody like go, go move my
door, yeah, and just see what.
That's the coolest door in theworld.
Man, I honestly think we'rejust saying it's a cool door.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
But we have about, uh , we have about real close to 2
000 of them that are built andall out in the world, um, but
they're, I think they're theworld's best door, and you know
a lot of architects, a lot ofdesigners, a lot of builders
think the same thing.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
People across the country are buying them, right
we?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
ship them all over the country.
The neat thing about our doorsis there's zero deflection in
the door, so you know whatdeflection is is you put your
foot down at the bottom of thedoor and pull on the handle,
does the door kind of twist andbend.
Every door that you do does?
Um, my doors don't.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
and I can, I can build them, they don't move
5,000 pounds which you know it'spretty neat.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You know people think , oh, they're so heavy, how can
you have a door that heavy?
You know old, you know smallpeople, older people can't open
it.
Yeah, you can, because thehinge system that you know is
built in the aerospace machineshop.
We redesigned those so, uh, ourdoors are really unique.
They're all custom made.
Um, you know we're shippingthem all over.
You know the country to youname it.
Um, you know, all over theworld.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Really what was that?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
there was a couple big doors that you just oh boy
how tall, big, heavy um, I cando so on our, like our pivot
doors.
I can do um, uh, 18 foot by 18foot door, double door set.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So nine foot doors, garage doors oh yeah, bigger
than my rv garage doors.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Well, look at, have you been out to iron wolf.
I didn't close the uh, Ienclosed the whole pool.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I knew that.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, I knew that just you know those are wasn't
one of those doors no, no, it'smy pivot doors, my big doors and
they're uh, you know thoseopenings are 24 foot feet, so
you have uh 12 foot wide, uh by14 foot doors.
You know they're pretty big andthose doors are probably 2500
pounds each each door more, yeah, yeah, yeah just the glass and
(34:42):
those doors were like 900 poundsjust so heavy than 2500.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
For sure, yeah, yeah, somewhere, yeah, somewhere up
there like a car, yeah you know.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
So they're all you know big, you know big stuff and
but they work really well.
I'm really proud of thatproduct.
Um, you know they're I'm reallyproud of, of anthony, how he's
designed that product andchristian that runs all of our
our uh machinery there.
But my son anthony, he's just asolid works.
Uh, that's the program we draweverything.
Inony, he's just a solid works.
Uh, that's the program we draweverything in.
(35:10):
Oh, he's just a solid worksgenius I watch it yeah, these
doors have, you know, almost 300different pieces inside of them
and they're all anythinganywhere from quarter inch to
eighth inch to half inch steel.
Um, they're all fiber, lasercut.
So they're actually you know,they're.
You know, if you order a door,uh, a certain size, it comes
within ten thousandths of aninch of that size.
I mean, it's exact.
(35:30):
But what's neat about it isAnthony's made it's aerospace
calcs.
It really is.
Yeah, and Anthony's made whichis real new for the door
industry.
But it's really neat for greatbig retrofit doors, like we're
doing a big house in PacificPalisades that has this huge
arch and it's all precast and hedoesn't want to ruin any of
(35:54):
that precast Cause it's like 60years old pre.
You know, precast came fromItaly and all this stuff you
know.
So we're able to build the doorexactly so it fits inside that
slot and the threshold andeverything else.
So, um, you know it works good.
But what Anthony did when we gotinto these doors cause he's
like every door is, you know,the 10-day doors.
We thought we were going tobuild a big bulk of doors and
then sell them.
So you know, we built a bunchof 42 by, you know, three and a
(36:15):
half by, uh, eight foot, 30 byeight foot, 60 by eight foot
door sets and you know westarted put the 10-day door
thing up there and we weremanufacturing all kinds of stuff
, but that was local, you know,and thought they'd come in and
buy those.
But everybody had come in andthey want a custom door.
So every single, all thosepieces, those 300 pieces inside
of that door, have to beadjusted every single time.
(36:36):
Exact.
The doors are even.
The hinges are offset dependingon the weight of the door,
cause there'll be a little bitof a door sag, so the hinges
offset, so everything's perfectyou know in terms of the fit and
finish all the way around.
But Anthony made this along withour computer scientist, daniel
made this program in SolidWorks,so he can basically pick the
(36:56):
style of door that you want youknow whether it's a pivot door
or a swing door or double dooror whatever and put these sizes
in and it automatically sizeseverything in the program and
we're able to boom, do a quickdoor for a customer and then
we're able to hit another buttonand flatten all the parts and
export those parts with the benddeductions and everything else
(37:19):
on them.
So they're just perfect.
And that's the only way we wereable to start to do volume in
the doors that macro that hecreated and these algorithms
that he created to do that.
So, but pretty neat, the doorbusiness is really good.
It's great.
Like I said, world's best doors, they're amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
So let me ask you this.
You guys, I mean, I go in thereand I just see so many
different things that you do.
So, what would you, if you cannarrow down what it is that you
have the capacity to do?
Just give us a list.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I think I can build.
We can build anything from aaerospace part to a spaceship.
I mean, you know it just, it'sjust engineers, and you know we
have.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I hope everybody knows why I like the guy.
I mean, we really can't, wereally can't you know so it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
You know, you know if the, if the contracts there and
the visions there, you know youstart to draw it and develop it
and you know it really.
You know if, uh, if Newton saidit could be done, it can be done
you know, if it doesn't definethe laws of physics, we're,
we're good, you know, um, so, uh, I think we can really build
(38:31):
anything that that a customerhas resources or wants.
Um, you know, and we don't justbuild it, we draw it, engineer
it, design it first, andeverybody's on the same page and
you get exactly what's drawn.
You know, that's kind of how webuild stuff, just like this
podcast table, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
But anyhow, I love.
It all right.
So I have a.
We're going to get into twodeeper questions sure because I
want everybody to know that foryou to be able to get to where
you are today, you've had totake some shots.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Right, I'm going to ask two big questions.
One of them and take a second.
What do you think one of thehardest things in life you've
had to ever go through?
I'm sure there's like four orfive ones that you decide to
blank out, but oh yeah, justthrow one at the, it could be.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I know there's enough .
Hardest things in life I've hadto go through is, uh, probably
being a father.
Um for sure it's been, uh, themost rewarding thing, uh, the
best thing in my life, but it'salso given me, you know, the
most challenges.
You know, um, it's been, um, uh, very challenging, you know,
and it's something that youalways question yourself Did you
(39:36):
do, were you good enough?
Could you done something more?
I mean, cause you have thesewonderful little lives and souls
that are, you know, adults now,that are, you know, uh, forging
their way through life.
They're thinking about having afamily themselves, and so it's
been, um, definitely, being afather has been the hardest
thing, um, but, uh, uh yeah, andso I'm on my second litter
(39:59):
right, I'm on my second litter.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
How many litter you're on your third.
You know it's so common.
It's funny because Stephen oryou know everyone's on their
third well, I'm about 10 yearsolder than you, right?
Everyone who's 10 years olderthan me is on their third litter
and I'm sitting there goinglike I don't know.
You know it's funny.
I'm justifying it with going.
You know, guys in my field areso used to having three litters.
Right, you know, my old mentorhas three litters.
Everyone's got three litters.
(40:23):
It's like at least I know whichway my life's going to go, but
anyway.
So let's talk a little bitabout what you and I discussed
just recently.
You're actually about to have alittle boy.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I am, yeah, congratulations.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
But that was stressful, which is not
something anybody should ever gothrough, and the only reason
I'm bringing it up is becausethere's actually a happy ending.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
So let's talk about kind of what the hell happened,
man, because that that wouldwhen you told when I, when you
told me this, I was so like, Ifelt, like I felt your pain yeah
as a dad and when you like, yousaid you just well, and I was
just worried about my wife, Imean her pain yeah, you know, I
mean, it was uh terriblesituation and you know I'll
(41:02):
share with the listeners here.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
uh, my wife's uh 42 years old.
She's never been pregnantbefore.
Uh, we got married back inOctober and, um, she got
pregnant in December and uh, weweren't planning it, she didn't
think she could get pregnant.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Why would you plan that?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Well, kids are wonderful, but yeah, no one's
planning, um, but uh, uh.
So she had a high riskpregnancy.
So we got to week uh, 21, 22,and uh, we go down to Phoenix
for medical care and whatnot,and we went to a specialist, you
know, to do a specialistultrasound for that stage or
(41:44):
whatnot, and um, we got someterrifying news that the baby,
uh, wasn't normal and wasn'tgoing to have a normal life, and
uh was a, uh had a dandy Walkeruh syndrome and um, uh, the
doctor told us that the baby,you know, was going to go
through surgeries the first fewyears of its life and and um
(42:07):
probably not lived past, youknow, nine years old, and it was
really um, um traumatic,especially for my wife, and you
know, since then it was abouttwo and a half weeks we were
hanging in that limbo andquestioning whether not to bring
a child in the world.
You know, we both don't believein abortion, but we also don't
believe in uh bringing a,bringing hurt into the world
(42:36):
either, you know, um.
So, anyhow, my wife was really,you know, for the for the two
weeks that this went on, um, andnow she, you know, right now
she's 30, uh, 31 weeks, um.
So for the few weeks that wenton until we got an ultrasound
and the genetic testing andeverything else to to find out
that the baby is normal.
Um, thank goodness, uh, it wasuh quite an experience.
(42:56):
And then you know you can'tstop, because you have all these
commitments to everybody.
You can't just say oh, it'shard, so I'm quitting.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
You know I'm taking, you can't you have to power
through it, you gotta powerthrough it.
So, yeah, that was got to powerthrough it.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
So, yeah, that was pretty traumatic lately in life.
But you know, throughout lifewe go through those things, you
know, constantly.
And I think when it involvesyou know, someone that's very
close to us, you know, andespecially our children, it can
be much more stressful thananything else.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I can feel my heart skip a beat right now.
It's just, oh God, that twoweek limbo.
You guys probably didn't evensleep.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
My poor wife and the stress that she had to go
through.
My poor thing, dude First baby,right the whole thing, it
shouldn't have been like thatand we still can't explain how
the doctor even came to that aconclusion yeah, but at least
you went and got another,another specialist's opinion.
Yeah, well, we got aneurosurgeon, an mri, and did
(43:57):
all the way past us.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, that's nothing betterthan that man, good, good lord.
So how far out is she now?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
uh, so she's, she's, uh seven weeks away from having
the baby so first week, uh uh,10th to 12th of september.
Um, they're gonna induce stabthem.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Well, my birthday's 9 , 11 I know bro so you said the
10th to the 12th.
I'm right in the middle man youcan name.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Name them ryan bro, that's great dude well, man.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Thank you very much for coming, dude.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Is there anything else you want our audience to
know about you?
But I do also want you to givethem.
Uh, how can people get ahold ofyou?
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Oh sure, yeah, Um uh, people get ahold of me directly
uh, at the factory, at ourfactory, anytime.
It's uh uh, premiermanufacturing or PMG
manufacturing, uh, 10-day Doorsin Lake Havasu.
Here I've had the same cellnumber for 33 years, so you can
call me on my cell or anythingelse, email me, text me.
I'd love you to get a hold ofme and I'd love to help you
(45:00):
fulfill your dreams in any waythat I can.
And I appreciate you having meon, ryan, and genuinely
appreciate working with you, umuh, and all your projects uh,
current and the future and past.
So, uh, a lot of fun stuff.
It's good stuff, and you know Ilove to work with people that
that really throw their ballsout there and make it happen.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
You're a guy that has .
Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Oh boy, you're a guy that has big vision and makes
everything come, come tofruition.
So I respect that a lot aboutyou and and, uh, your investors
really should.
Yeah, Um you're a guy thatreally gives a shit and breaks
his back to do what you say.
And and uh, they're few and farbetween nowadays.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
So thank you, it means a lot, brother, I really
do.
Thank you very much.
And guys, as you know, onto thenext really appreciate the
following Love you.
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