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September 8, 2025 67 mins

Colin’s story is a testament to how a single right-place, right-time moment can change the trajectory of a life. What began as a chance introduction to Paradyme’s founder and chairman, Ryan Garland, at one event opened doors that allowed him to pursue his childhood dreams. That encounter sparked a chain of opportunities that took Colin from modest roots to the center of offshore racing’s elite.

Colin shares his remarkable journey from a Midwestern kid on pontoon boats to crew chief of a championship offshore racing team, revealing how chance encounters and relentless hard work created life-changing opportunities:

• Growing up on Fox River in Chicago with modest pontoon boats while dreaming of speedboats
• Moving to Lake Havasu after selling his house during the pandemic housing boom
• Building a successful boat detailing and concierge business for wealthy clients
• Meeting Ryan Garland, which led to introductions that changed the course of his life
• Connecting with racing team owner JR at an event in Miami through that chance chain of introductions
• Transitioning from occasional helper to full-time crew chief of Motlik Racing (#40)
• Managing the logistics of professional offshore racing with costs exceeding $50,000 per event
• Setting a world record for outboard catamaran speed (later broken) with White Boy Rick's sponsorship
• Working alongside notable figures from boating history including Gus Falcone from Cocaine Cowboys
• Balancing race team responsibilities with maintaining relationships with original clients
• Finding fulfillment in living his childhood dream while continuing to push for excellence




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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, ryan Garland here, founder and

(00:01):
chairman of Paradigm.
Welcome to the Paradigm Shift.
I am honored today to haveColin, one of my closest buddies
.
He's got a very unique story.
We're going to talk about wherehe came from and how he got
into the boat racing world.
A lot of people, as ofyesterday when I was posting
about me having you on ourpodcast, they were pumped man.
They wanted to hear kind oflike about the boating world
because my man Cave brand hasbeen really kind of catered

(00:23):
around my boating life becausethat's my passion and I grew up
coming out here and boating withmy family and so on and so
forth.
So really we built our brandaround boating and that's the,
the man you want, the man, themyth.
We want to talk about the moneythat's in this game and kind of
just add some value to ouraudience to show you how people
live their lives.
Really, you know what some ofthese people that have money
want to do and people that don'thave money also do and want to

(00:45):
do.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Colin, thanks for joining me, buddy.
The truth is you don't got tohave money to do it.
I'm point proven right there.
I'm very lucky and blessed todo what I do.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Absolutely Well, dude , it's an honor.
Thank you for being here today,hey dude, thank you for having
me.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thank you very that Everybody knows that what you've
got going on is phenomenalstuff like that.
So just be welcomed on thisPhenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Even from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Thank you, man.
That means a lot and you knowwhat I think that really today I
want to be able to share withour audience a little bit about
who really allowed you to kindof expand your horizon 100%.
And even before we werestarting this recording, just
hearing more about your storywas intriguing and I think I
want to kind of let people hearwho you are 100%.

(01:32):
So let's talk a little bit aboutwhat you do right now and then
we'll go to kind of how you wereraised.
But what do you do at themoment?
What's your position with DougWright Racing Crew?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, so I am the crew chief of Motlik Racing,
number 40.
We are an APBA class, factoryclass boat racing team, so we're
a professional boat racing team.
We're sponsored by MotlikInjury Attorneys out of Atlanta,
georgia.
So we're very blessed to havean awesome sponsor, a big
sponsor, to back us.
Because, like you were talkingabout the money the money in the

(02:03):
sport it's a very costly sport.
Everybody knows boating isexpensive, just to go out for a
day well it's, it's a nascarformula one.
This is just boating 100 and weare, we're, we run at the.
You know not quite the caliberof nascar, because you know
their teams have like 60 and 70people and stuff like that.
But I mean we have semi-truckhaulers, we have show haulers,

(02:24):
we have rvs, we have merch.
You know their teams have like60 and 70 people and stuff like
that.
But I mean we have semi-truckhaulers, we have show haulers,
we have RVs, we have merch.
You know we come with a, with agroup, you know so it's
definitely an operation, youknow it's.
We're definitely one of thebiggest teams in the sport, you
know, when it comes to equipmentand auxiliary stuff and stuff
like that.
We are definitely becoming oneof the biggest ones because we
have a great sponsor.
When it comes to it, it's themoney, you know.

(02:46):
I mean propellers, fuel, hotels, everything to get us to the
races.
You know, like I think ourcheapest race might be $50,000.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, if we don't break anything you know like,
and that's, how rare is that?
And that's very rare,especially in the sport that we
do.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's offshore racing, so it's definitely crazy, and I
mean it's intense competitionis wild, is crazy, especially
this year.
There's some things behind thescenes going on, so it's extra
crazy and extra wild but you'retrying to say it's political.
No, no, no, no, anything thatmuch money's not political,
exactly, and that's what it gotthat's what it comes down to is

(03:21):
the whole money situation andstuff like that, which sucks
because at the end of the day,the athletes, the people on the
teams and stuff like that wejust want to come and race, but
at the end of the day, the moneyis what fuels it all and stuff
like that Sponsorships,promoters and everything like
that.
Certain race teams that aresponsored by certain people
don't want promoters bringing incertain sponsors because it

(03:41):
steps on their feet, but at theend of the day, they're just
looking for the funds to makethis sport greater and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
And build awareness and continue to buy the best of
the best, and that's what we'retrying to do is just get it back
out there.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Back in the 80s and 90s, boat racing was a huge
thing.
It was on ESPN every singleweekend.
It was huge exposure and stufflike that and it kind of fell
off the map and so we have acouple teams and produce
producers coming in to try tobring it back to light you know
to try to bring it back in.
It's not as big as nascar,because the thing with offshore
racing is we're racing off, yeah, so viewership is hard because

(04:18):
you usually only get a mile anda half to watch us.
You know, on the back stretchwe're gone yeah, you know so
that's, that's one of thehardest part.
But now with technology, thesedays live streams are phenomenal
.
You know like in the last twoyears alone, you know, live
streams have come leaps andbounds.
You know so, having the beingable to get people in chicago to
watch a race that's in the west, you know, to keep them

(04:40):
involved and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
You know technology and stuff like that is
definitely helping leaps andbounds, absolutely, man, yeah,
and we'll talk a little bit moreabout kind of like that whole
world, but let's really the ideais to kind of go back to where
you were before.
Let's talk a little bit how youyou know where you from, you
know how old are you where youfrom and how did you kind of get
to have us here.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Let's do it that way, I grew up in the midwest of
chicago, uh, on Fox River, whichis connected to the Chain of
Lakes, which is a decent-sizedlake for the Midwest, and we
grew up on pontoon boats withlike 35-horsepower motors
Nothing crazy, you know.
I'd see a speedboat pass andjust dream, you know, like it

(05:18):
was.
Just it wasn't.
I wasn't deprived, we weren'tpoor or anything like that, it
was just a different lifestyle.
You know, money, money.
At the end of the day, withfour kids, we had a big family.
You know stuff like that.
So we were within our means.
My aunt had an awesome pontoonboat lake house, so that's what
I grew up on.
But I always had that dream,you know, of fast boats and
stuff like that oh wait, a youngman that wants to be things

(05:40):
that are fast exactly exactly.
So then fast forward a coupleyears.
Um, I went camping and this guyhad a scarb on twin 502 motor,
you know at the time.
Oh, he's come out with me, youknow all that muscle super loud
10 years old.
I'm going out with thisstranger on his boat.
I don't know what my dad wasthinking.
Let me do it, because he wasn'tthere, but it changed my life

(06:03):
and I said, dude, I saidsomething else.
And so ever since then, I'dalways been a dream, a goal, you
know, to always have a bigpower boat, be involved in power
boats, whatever, yada, yada,yada.
So then you know, in my adultyears.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
So you mean, life kicked you in the teeth and
steered you in a differentdirection, exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Before you want to buy this powerboat, you need to
do stuff with your life.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Go have a baby, not make it, not go through a
divorce All the good fun stuff,All the good fun stuff, and then
you can buy a boat.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
So I graduated high school.
I got into truck driving andequipment operating.
I always knew I wanted to workwith my hands.
My dad was a union electrician.
I'd gone to work with him sinceeight years Cleaning up and
stuff like that.
It always intrigued me.
Equipment operating, motorsjust something in my mind.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, not to interrupt real quick, another
thing that stands out about youis it's scripture.
It says for a man to work withhis hands, he'll always provide
for his family.
And so, coming from your fatherin that background, yeah,
that's why you're such ahands-on guy now.
So, yeah, we'll keep going.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Exactly 100%, but it's all full circle.
And so then you know, truckdriving, equipment operating,
and then I just always wanted todo the biggest, do the best,
try the hardest, work thehardest, go as hard as I can.
You know, my dad always told me, if you're always working, you
can never be broke.
That's true, you know it's.

(07:29):
It's something that I live by.
I never turned on work.
That's one of my biggest things.
I never say no, Unfortunately.
You know, my girlfriend mayhate it, but it's like I never
say no, and he's saying thatwith a smile everybody because,
we talked about this yesterday.
He's going to go to I wassupposed to have this weekend
completely off and if anybodysaw my instagram story last
night, they now know that thatis the furthest thing from the
truth.
I'm about to do 6 000 miles andfrom flights, driving and

(07:53):
flying and just to get to a raceon time.
But I like to help.
I love to help, I love to bethat guy, I love to be involved.
I love don'ts.
That's what I do, it's mypassion, so it's not work.
I don't think of it's.
It's what I do, it's my passion, so it's not work.
I don't think of it as work.
It's what am I doing tomorrow,you know, and my life is crazy,
you know like I travel.
I'm traveling more in oneweekend than most people do in a
year, you know, or two years,you know.

(08:14):
I talked to some people thatstill haven't left my hometown.
Yeah, so it's just like I live.
It's nonstop, it's always onthe go, but I love it.
I love it.
Fast forward to equipmentoperating.
Got into the union lineman.
I was a lineman.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Right on.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
For almost 12 years I've been a union lineman, made
really good money.
You know great career.
You know everybody strives,everybody wants to be a lineman.
You know Lineman it's greatCush.
You know sucks, but you knowthat comes with it.
You know line to have the cooltoys, you know.
So you gotta do what you gottado.
So I did that.
And then we actually ended upputting a power line through

(08:51):
lake havasu.
I had no idea what lake havasuwas.
I grew up a little midwest town.
Somebody told me hey, there's alake in the desert.
Yeah, right, you're full ofshit, but there was and it was
awesome.
And the first time my buddyinvited me out here to go on a
boat with him, he was coming outhere from Colorado and I
remember coming into town andgoing through Canyon Look, this

(09:13):
is something else you know.
And I was hooked.
I went out on the boat aweekend with them.
I was supposed to be there aday.
I ended up being there threedays.
You know did the hell.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I have a two hangover , you know just hung, hung, hung
that's how it is.
People come out, don't leave.
I gotta go, I gotta get back.
I'm out of money.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I gotta go back to work so I, I go back to work.
We're luckily we were workingin palm spring so I was kind of
close to have is still, you know, three hours away.
Everybody's commutes from socalto havasu.
So I did that for a while, youknow, came out here.
Out here made some friends,made some connections and stuff
like that.
And I was like five years I'mgoing to live here, I'm going to

(09:48):
make it a five-year goal.
I never did any of that shit.
I live by tomorrow.
Yeah, and even tomorrow is goingto change too, but I said to
myself I was like five years.
I want to live out here.
You know I travel for a, youknow.
So it's, the airport commutes alittle bit of a of a bummer,
but whatever I'll get.

(10:08):
So I told myself I want to moveout here within five years.
Bam, next year covid hits.
Housing market goes crazy.
I had a house, you know, realnice house, american dream flag
pulling the front yard, sittingon almost an acre, 3 500 square
feet.
I called my buddy who's arealtor and I said hey, if I
sold my house tomorrow, whatcould you get?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
me.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's a great school district, suburbs of Chicago.
You know it's one that's soughtafter and stuff like that, so
houses don't stay for sale.
So I called him and I said if Isold my house tomorrow, what
could I get?
He tells me it's like almost$200,000 more than I bought it
for two years ago.
I'm like dude, that thing.
He was like do you need toclean it up or anything?

(10:49):
I was like no, dude, I never gothere.
I was like tell me when yourpicture guy is going to be there
.
I have the garage opened up.
You can go in there and takepictures, blah, blah, blah he.
This market right now is crazy.
Because it was like right inthe cold.
You know everybody's freakingout, not knowing if they're
gonna be able to get houses.
And then my mom's like, whereare you gonna live?

(11:11):
What are you gonna do?
And I was like I don't care,I'll live in a hotel.
You know, like I get paid totravel.
You know, I'll figure it out,I'll figure it out, I'll figure
it out, like all right, so welist the house.
It was like 16 offers orsomething in like 24 hours, one
showing you know like it wascrazy.
You know, he's like he called me, he's like God all cash offer

(11:31):
less than 30 days, blah, blah,blah.
I said, bro, so we sold, soldthe house and I was like I'm
moving to Lake Havasu.
Everybody, I was like I'm goingto Lake Havasu.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, but man when you came out here during that
time I remember it took me fourhours to drop at the marina and
I tried to get into Windsor.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
And it was crazy out here during the pandemic.
It was the spot.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, the whole California shut down.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Vegas is shut down.
Phoenix is shut down.
Everyone came here man, yep,and so this was.
It was the spot, you know.
So I came here and then, like Isaid, I knew I was going to be
traveling, still for work, andyada, yada.
Well that sucked, having toleave sunday when everybody's
kicking it out on the boat and Igotta pack my suitcase, drive

(12:15):
to the airport and go back topennsylvania.
I was like something's got tochange.
I was like something's got tochange.
So I was like I'm going to tryto find a job and have a suit.
Well, coming coming from alineman you know union lineman,
that's good wages and stuff likethat You're just not going to
find it.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I said I got to make something of my own.
You know I said, I got tofigure out how to do something
on my own to make my own income,support myself and stuff like
that, and I all I saw was thesebig fancy boats, all these fancy
toys and stuff like that.
I come from trucking and thenthe side part of trucking is
show trucks a really nice trucks.
You know.

(12:52):
Owners of trucks dump a lot ofmoney into them if they have a
nice driver that care of it so Iwas blessed to be always in a
really nice truck, took care ofit, presented it well.
It's a good name for the companyyeah, you see this truck pull
up blah, blah, blah.
So I'd always had a show truckthing.
So keeping big objects cleanwasn't new, it wasn't a task.

(13:14):
Cleaning a semi-truck is anafternoon ordeal.
After I got done working everyday, it was usually washing the
semi-truck every single day.
So a boat is just a little moresurface area.
So I was like I'm I can do it,section it off, blah, blah, blah
.
So I came up with an idea.
I was like I'm gonna start adetail business.
I saw there's a market.
Oh yeah, you know, it's a bigdeal out here.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's a huge I tell everybody, the detail world here
is like it's unbelievable.
I know it's unbelievable, it'scrazy, it's the only place in
the country.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's like I swear to god.
I travel for a living.
I go to every single state.
I've seen it all because I tryto call and I try to find
detailers for, like, when we goto races and stuff like that, I
try to set up and there you come, here you couldn't go to a gas
station without seeing adetailer.
You know like it's unbelievablewell, dude the people.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
They want their toys clean and that's this place is
all nothing but toys.
Well, my yesterday, which I'mgoing to see here in a couple
hours.
Dude, he was telling me,because we're looking at
building homes where youliterally just pull into your
driveway with all your big toysand you live in your garage.
You know what I mean.
But that's what people wantExactly.
We're trying to build regularhomes here and they're like no,
build more garage, less livingspace.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
It's a different game here it's all about money.
That's what I tell people allthe time.
I was like it doesn't matterhow big your house is in Havasu.
How big is your garage?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, how big is your garage?
Let's be honest you have moremoney in your garage than your
house is worth 100%, sometimesby two or three times.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And with the Havasu lifestyle you're going to be, on
those toys that are in thegarage more than you're going to
be sitting on your couch.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
everybody's got a side-by-side yeah, you know, or
a golf cart or jet ski October.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
October everybody goes to the sand you know, and
it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well, did you have?
You mean, look how many youknow, side-by-sides.
You see out here on the streets, it's all there is every day,
even in the middle of summertime, it's 120 degrees outside
somebody, it's so true, it'strue, yeah charging their
battery?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
yeah, so then I.
So I saw the detail game.
You, keeping stuff clean outhere was a big thing.
So I bought a trailer, bought apower washer, all this stuff
slow.
I kind of did it on theweekends.
While I'd come into town I'dhave a couple people lined up,
nothing big, something to get myfeet wet.
I knew Havis was a really smalltown so there was a couple key

(15:24):
players you know, a couple bigpeople you know, and word of
mouth travels.
I know you got to get one ortwo of those people and that's
all you need.
Yeah, you know that's.
The problem with some of thesepeople is they'll try to go
after everybody.
Like you can't keep up witheverybody trust me, I've tried
and I'm really good, I've tried,and it's impossible because
once you get that holidayweekend and they're all here on

(15:47):
that same weekend they'rewanting you to clean all of it.
Exactly it's going to be thebusiest man alive.
It's going to be the firstweekend where you are suddenly
regretting why you quit thatlineman job that was making
really good money and you're nowdetailing boats and 120 degrees
at midnight because they wantthem clean the next day, you
know.
So it was a learning curve, youknow, just taking something and

(16:10):
seeing what it was and trying tomake it something you know.
But then, as cleaning theirstuff, you know I got to.
I'm a people person.
I know how to read people and Isee like all right, these
people are only here for twodays.
They want to enjoy those twodays as much as possible.
What can I do to make that agood experience, my goal, you

(16:31):
know like anything andeverything that I could do, you
know, just to make those twodays more enjoyable for them, is
all I need to do.
Yeah, don't need to do witheverybody, you know.
So it was like find a couple ofpeople that recognize your
worth, you know, and we'll useyou and take care of that.
You were one of them, you know,and we'll get.
We'll get into that a littlebit more, but so I started

(16:53):
detail business, detail businessinto concierge service being.
You know like, you show up totown, get in your boat, go enjoy
your boat, leave it there, I'llpull it out.
God forbid anything happened,I'll federal service cleaning
everything, put it back in yourstorage.
Yeah, you're back in californialiving your life.
It's great business oh yeahawesome.
It's still and it's booming 100.
I still have crews that I, yeah, every every holiday weekend I

(17:16):
got guys that are doing it.
Oh, it's just, it's a greatbusiness.
So then it was the transportthing.
You know it, it was.
I saw all these boat.
You know events.
Poker runs around.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
So let's, let's go into that the reason.
So once you get into thetransport, it's a whole nother
level of wealth 100% Becausethese boys have million dollar
plus boats.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
And so then they all started hearing my background
with transport and big stuff andthey were like, well, that's
nothing, you could do that?
Move my boat to those arcs so Ican have it on vacation.
All right, let's do that.
No, so then there's a big risk.
You know, I was like I need tobuy a truck, I need to have my
own truck.
Oh, I was like go buy a truck,big risks went, bought a truck,

(17:58):
like literally the second day Ihad that truck.
Or I'm thinking, what am Idoing, man, what am I doing?
What?

Speaker 1 (18:04):
am I doing.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I had a truck.
I just showed up, turned thekey, got paid, all that shit.
Here I am getting insurance,dot, all this stuff, pulling my
hair out.
I'm like, yeah, what am Igetting myself into?
Literally pull into Barrett,pull into Barrett's parking lot
and I get out.
I'm going inside to talk to AJbecause one of my clients that I

(18:25):
helped take care of he neededsomething from AJ.
So I just right time, rightplace.
You know, right place, righttime, that's what I always tell
people.
I really that man.
It was me walking up, you andDaniel talking, and then Daniel
introduced me saying hey, man,just bought that truck, he's
about to buy a boat, blink, yeah, and that's how it went.

(18:47):
And then it slowly went fromthere and couldn't have been
more blessed.
And so then it was thetransport thing.
And then not just the transportthing, the taking care, helping
, not just taking their boat,they're dropping their boat off
and saying see you later, bye,and stay, you know, whatever you

(19:07):
need, blah, blah, blah, becausethese boats it takes a crew man
, it is, it's not easy, youcan't you know you can do it by
yourself, but there's going tobe that one time where you wish
you had a guy and you bumped thedock.
Yeah, you know, it's definitelydoable, it's definitely.
You know.
I I passed some times with.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I made this now my job to do this by myself so it's
like I know what it's like togo out there by myself and
launch a 32 foot center consoleand get it to a dock and then
get back in the truck to go park, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
So it's a lot and stuff like that, but I managed
to make it work and then justkept it rolling.
And you know, I thought thatwas you know the end goal.
You know, I thought that wasyou know it.
Yeah, I thought that was youknow the end goal.
You know, I thought that wasyou know it.
Yeah, I thought that was it.
I'm taking care of these reallynice boats A dream, you know.
I'm staying home every night,blah, blah, blah, all this stuff
.
I'm working hard, but it's mine.

(19:51):
Yeah, it's all this stuff, andI had built up a great clientele
, great guy, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh, I mean top tier, you know top tier of the guys
with the most toys the upperechelon of the players 100% the
Havasu life.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
you know the people that portray that Havasu life.
I help take care of them andstuff like that.
Yep.
So it was a cool experience,awesome.
And I still, like I said, Istill have guys that do that,
you know, still go out and washand stuff like that.
And then I do a lot ofbrokering.
You know.
I know a lot of people.
You know, like I said, I'mgreat at talking to people,
meeting people, stuff like that.
So not everybody's foreverybody, you know.

(20:25):
Not everybody wants a $2,000ceramic job this week.
You know, some people just wanta quick wash to get them
through, to make them look goodgoing through the channel, but
in a month they are going towant that $2,000, you know.
So I work with everybody intown, from the smallest guys
with the smallest pickup trucksto the biggest detail companies
and you know I feed them all youknow like, and that's just and

(20:46):
I don't make a dime but it keepsmy people taken care of.
And that's at the end of the day, that's what I'm looking to do.
Those two days, those two days,I just want them to have a good
time.
If I did it, if somebody elsedid it, I don't care, it's just

(21:06):
they.
They came out here and they didtheir thing, yeah, so that's
what?
So that's led to the brokeringand the, you know, meeting
people and knowing people andthen slowly into traveling to
miami and dropping boats off inmiami.
Now I'm, I know people who ownyachts and I'm hooking people up
with.
Oh, I know, this guy was ayacht.
You want to go out for a yachtfor a week?
Here you go, I connect thesepeople, you know.
So it's just, it just monetizesexactly goes and you just never
know yeah, you just really neverknow what something's gonna
bring you.

(21:26):
I could have asked a guy inhavas who wants the boat moved.
You know blah, blah, blah, blah, but what that led to you know,
like it just opens up the doorand it's.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's.
You gotta remember, it's thebecause you're in the space,
you're ultimately around.
These people you know that arewealthy and have created, you
know, own businesses and youknow have a lot of
responsibility and what's niceis that they always say you are
who you hang out with.
You're literally hanging outwith a network of wealthy people
and so.
And then they because you'veearned their trust, they're now
taking you more under their wingand opening up doors for you

(21:56):
refer to you their friend,totally, and they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
You know, and, like I said, like once I started and I
knew enough, had enough people,I had to disable my instagram,
you know, because I didn't wantto take on anymore, because then
, you can't take care of thosecore people that have built you
to what you are.
So that was the thing, was allright.
You got a couple guys that are,they know your schedule, they
know they, they know each other.
So it's like they can't fightwith each other because they,

(22:22):
you know.
Hey, you referred me to thisyou know, so at the end, you
know.
So that's why I tried to keep mycircle within the circle,
because you know.
Then you know when they come,when they're going to be there,
what they need blah blah.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
There's realistic expectations 100, yeah, for sure
, and they know what to expect.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
And manage and manage the expectation all right.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
So let's talk about kind of the changing.
I would say, not cause youstill have all that going on,
but like how you really shiftednow more into the race team.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Really.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
So I had a, we had a event.
What was it?
22, february 22.
Yeah, I think it was rightFebruary 22, miami 23.
Was it 23?
Oh, 23?
.
Oh yeah, man, I'm in 2025.
I forgot what year it is.
Okay, so yeah a couple of yearsago, two years ago dude and I
have kids and I tell my kids allthe time like I'm like that

(23:13):
kind of getting older dad oflike hey you never know how fast
time flies.
I'm on that path right now, so,but uh, yeah, so two years ago.
So we ended up having andhosting like a corporate event
and really it was.
The idea was to try to buildawareness on what we're doing
and using other people's socialmedias as the platform to build
awareness.
So we just kind of brought in abunch of influencers, came in
but there was a lot of theexisting clients and so forth
that were there.
So we wanted to add value toour network, ultimately right
Kind of help people grow andwhat have you.

(23:33):
And so we were shipping our uh,our boat down there and I
forgot how I got introduced tojr.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I've heard who was it , I think I think it was because
of the content that you wereputting out on that it was no,
uh, logan.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Logan reached out to me, so yes, you guys did.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
You guys did a helicopter that's right some of
your yep, your stuff that'sright, logan.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
So logan is the son of the owner of jr, yeah, jr
which originally owned dougright, doug right, yeah, so so,
and he's, he's, actually he's,he's a driver isn't it jr's
arthur, or uh?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
logan logan is our stearman.
Yeah, in the race boat yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
So logan reaches out to me because he saw my content
with joe and goes hey man, yourguys is doug right, is so badass
, like all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
He's a young kid, but he's photo like camera.
He's always like, even whenwe're walking to the race boat,
you know he's still like.
I'm like, bro, get your helmeton, get your suit on, give ilse
that camera let's go, man, but Imean, like he's got the eye,
he's you know like we.
I pay the videographers andphotographers to come to our
races and stuff like that tocreate content.

(24:38):
Logan's jumping out of the boat, grabbing the camera from the
guys and stuff like that tocreate content.
Logan's jumping out of the boat, grabbing the camera from the
guys and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I'm like you need to be interviewed right now.
Give him back the camera.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I could just do a selfie interview of myself, but
he's got that eye for contentand stuff like that and he was
trying to build the Doug Wrightbrand because Doug Wright's not
as top tier as like MTI, when itcomes to fit and finish.
It didn't used to be right.
They, they were plainer, theywere, they were a race proven
boat yeah, it's a race boatexactly they just got into the

(25:09):
pleasure half within the last 10years, right, you know?
So, uh, logan was trying toblow up that to you know, bring
that to something.
And you guys, the contentalways that you guys put out is
phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
And so then, with it just being of the of that boat,
I know why he reached out to youguys well, we, I mean, we did
that, we did that whole thingfrom like that helicopter shots
and all that, it was like awhole.
In essence, it was like a, itwas like a pilot and that was
doug wright's instagram for likea month.
Yeah, that's all they posted wasour stuff, yeah, because we had
photos from all over thecountry.
Yeah, traveling cool, like,kind of like you know, sports

(25:43):
shots, you know, kind of likethat extreme you know, uh,
sports lifestyle kind of feel toit, you know.
And so he started reaching outand that's when I was like, hey
guys, we're doing this thing inmiami, I'd love to have you
there.
And how kind of them was itthat they come to the event on
their?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I think it was their red one at the time about their
red race boat yeah, from the2023.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
That was a 38, wasn't it?
It was a 38 it was the.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
It was the hole before our new 39 came out.
Yep that yep, a little bitfaster oh the red one was.
The red one was fast.
I don't know what the hell itwas, but man, that thing was so
light that was fast I think wescooted, but yeah, so, um, so we
have our event.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
And then you guys all showed up.
But the right guy showed up andwhat happened was, is I needed
to ship my boat down there.
And that's when I reached outto you and said, hey, dude, can
you ship my boat down there?
And you're like, yeah, hey.
And I said, hey, come to theevent too.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
You don't have to pay for it.
Well, it was like it was.
It was, I was halfway.
Maybe I'll just like stay inMiami for the weekend, cause I'm
assuming he's going to want tobrought back.
But we didn't even talk aboutthe return trip.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
We just talked about get my boat to Miami, so I was
like bet.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'll get the boat to Miami.
So I got the boat to Miami andI was like I was telling her, I
was like I'll probably just hangout.
I don't think he's going towant to keep there for the
winter, and stuff like that.
We still really didn't knoweach other that well, you know.
So I didn't know how to read.
I thought it was just get theboat to miami and then you end
up calling like after I talkedto her and it was so weird, you

(27:09):
know, she's like.
You called and you were like,hey, could I, could I get your
hotel and could you hang out,you know, and blah, blah, blah,
and I was like what I said I wasgonna do?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
so yeah, yeah exactly .

Speaker 2 (27:20):
And then you were like you, you know, you were
like you opened up at.
You know, come over, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
You come to the event free, don't just come on in
Just pulling up.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
You know, like when we had Joe there the first time,
phil, my first like awesomeInstagram content that I ever
had.
You know, it's just that firstinteraction.
I was like this is somethingyou know, like this is something
, you know, like this issomething.
And then went from there, youknow, drop your boat off.
And then you said, you know,grab a hotel but come over later
for dinner and everything andstuff like that.
And I did and I met your wholeteam.

(27:49):
You know, your whole family.
You know, you had your nanny,your kid, everybody was there.
Yep, couldn't beat it.
You know we're sitting rightthere on biscayne bay, you know
like, oh, I'm like this, is ityou?
I'm like this, is it?
You know, I was like this, isit, you know?
So it was a really coolexperience, you know.
And then, yeah, I folded intomeeting JR with the great
powerboats.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Well, what happened was the day I was hosting the
event, which was, I think, thenext day or so we're hosting the
event.
And I think you're just kind ofoutside hanging out with them,
because they were part of it,but they were just kind of there
to hang out support.
So it's, it's really.
I gotta tell you how ithappened, because I'll always
remember your perspective inmind will be too different.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Literally, I always remember it.
I was standing inside and Iforget who was talking, but the
boats had pulled up and, like wehad quick tied them off and I
didn't, you know, quickintroduce me to everybody.
But then the event had started,so everybody went inside and
then I ventured my way outsideto smoke, like I always do, and
jr comes walking outside and hehad known everybody has come and

(28:45):
do this event, as you know,either paid or invite only you
know, so if you're there, you'rethere for the event.
Yeah, you want to hear thecontent he came out and he saw
me standing there smoking.
He's like what the hell are youdoing out here, you know?
And I told him I was like I'mwith the boat.
He was like what do you mean?
You're with the boat and Islowly, you know, told my story.
I was like ryan paid me to comedown, take care of the boat,

(29:07):
you know, make sure being tiedup, blah, blah, blah.
He's like that's a really cooljob.
How did you?
And I was like I kind of madeit oh, and slowly started going
from there.
And he was like we got thisrace boat.
He was like you should come toone of our races sometime.
And I said I know I was like Iraced with vinnie diorio and
sv88 last year in key west.
I was like I was planning oncoming to the races this year

(29:29):
and helping them out.
He's like, well, if you got anyspare time, you know, come,
come, check out our operationstuff.
Like all right, this was injanuary, you know, race doesn't
start until march or anythinglike that.
So I was still under theimpression that I was going to
run with vinny and sv88 thatwhole year.
We'll come to march first weekin marathon.

(29:49):
I didn't make it to the racewith vinny and he blew both of
his motors.
So he called me and he said I'mgonna be out two races the
heads up yeah, I got two boatsthat are going to every race.
Yeah, that I'm being paid totransport there.
They're gonna be there.
I was like I'm gonna hit up jr,you know so well.
First I hit up logan yeah,because we had talked on

(30:10):
instagram and stuff like thatand I said, hey, man, I said you
guys need any help on your raceteam, you know like washing the
boat or anything like that.
And he was like talk to romey.
So I called romey, bro.
I'm like yo, romey, like it'scolin, remember me from paradigm
and stuff like that.
And he's like oh, yeah, dude,how you doing buddy?
I was like I, I'm gonna be incoco beach.
I was like I got nothing to do.
I was like you want a hand?

(30:31):
He's like you gotta talk to theboss about that.
And I was like all right, canyou send me his number?
He's like yeah, so I called jr.
Jr answers hey, I was likecolin from paradigm.
I met you in miami, you know.
Oh, I remember you, buddy.
I remember this guy had mesaved in his phone as ryan from
paradigm, forever, dude.
Until I finally told him onrace, I was like can you change

(30:54):
my name in your?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
phone.
Like I'm not ryan from paradigm.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Like so, so he's like I just remembered ryan's guy,
but I was like it's all good soit's funny.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
So, yeah, I was riding from paradise.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
So then, so you know, fresh order coco beach.
I called him and I said hey,man, I want to be there.
And he said, yeah, come on,hang out, you know he's like.
So then I'm on my way to cocobeach and he's he's like where
are you?
I was like I'm almost CocoaBeach.
He's like drive to Key Largofor me.
I'm like the hell.
I was like that's nine hoursaway, bro, and I was like I got

(31:30):
nothing better else to do, so Idid it.
So I drive to Key Largo.
There was a bunch of tents.
We had our new Motley tents.
They just got printed and wehonored him for the race.
So I go down there, I pick upthe tents, go back to Cocoa
Beach.
I meet everybody there.
You know the semi-truck hadgotten there all that stuff.
He had the most ragtag bunch ofguys that he could find, you

(31:50):
know to make it happen.
Because at the end of theseason.
Before they had a stacker and aboat.
That's all they had, and whenthey brought Motlik on, bam.
They.
That's all they had.
And when they brought montlickon bam, they had an all semi
truck stacker show hall.
You know we had to big sponsorlive the show, you know.
So he's hey, can you drive, heycan you drive, hey can you
drive, hey can you drive.
So he got a bunch of people todrive all the equipment up there

(32:13):
and stuff like that and set itup and he was like I forgot the
boat, like what do you mean?
You forgot the boat.
He's like it's still at theshop in um, just out.
It's, uh, just outsideclearwater.
And I was like god, I was likeI'll go get it, go get the boat.
We got the boat, come back, getit there for the parade on time

(32:33):
.
All this stuff we're in theparade, yada, yada we're doing
it, yeah, so then I help him.
We race horrible race horriblerace fucking cut off in the
first turn, washed out intoguardian mode last place.
Oh wow, didn't even finish, yep, so I'm thinking he's in a
horrible mood, team owner andstuff like that.
So I was like what can I do tomake his life easier?

(32:54):
I go back to the pits and Istart cleaning everything up.
You know, got the awning,garbage, can, everything.
You know 12 mini bikes theworks.
So his other driver, david, heshows up and everybody laughed.
You know they went to dinnerand stuff like that.
And me and David, we were like,hey, you want to start cleaning
it up?
Clicked right away.
Me and David, right away, westart putting bam, bam, bam bam,

(33:17):
putting everything away.
Jr shows back up, everything'sup.
He's like who did all this?
Like me and David did, he waslike what do I got to do to have
you at every race?
And I was like um, I was likewell, I was like, let me think
about it.
You know, I was like causeVinny you know I was part set on
racing with Vinny.
He gave me my first opportunity,you know, to race on a race

(33:38):
team and stuff like that.
And so I was like what am Igoing to do, you know like.
And so JR ended up calling meback.
He's like, I really want towork with you, bro.
He was like I want you to cometo the next race.
He was like come to Lotto.
Lotto was the next race.
I was like, just show up.
He was like I'll haveeverything brought there, show
up.
Okay, I come, I show up, werace first place.

(34:03):
Nice killed it.
Yeah, it couldn't have been abetter race one.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
By leaps and bounds, we started getting that rhythm
yeah, you know that camaraderieyeah, the team, everybody vibing
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
So he's like tell me a number.
He's like I want.
I was like I'm expensive, I'mrich, I was like, for sure.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I was like let's make this happen.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
You know I was like, but before that I was like I
need to talk to some clients,you know, because I have built
up this business in Lake Havasu,you know, and not that people
rely on me, but people wererelying on me.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
It's very important, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I called my main guy and I said hey man, I was like
I've gotten an opportunity to goon a real professional race
team.
I said I've loved what we'vebuilt, what we had going.
You know I was like it taughtme a lot.
It's taught you know it's it'sbrought me to where I am.
I was like I was like I knowwe've always talked about racing
.
You know everybody talks aboutit.

(34:59):
I want to have a race boat.
I we've always talked aboutracing.
You know everybody talks aboutit.
I want to have a race boat, Iwant to have a race.
Well, everybody talks about it,but do you want to do it and
stuff like that?
So he had talked about buying arace boat and stuff like that
the next season and whatever,and that I got an opportunity to
go run with a race team.
He was like you got anopportunity to go run with one,
learn, do it, do it, do it Likewe'll work everything else out,

(35:20):
we'll make everything else.
Well, you find me, guys, to doall this stuff, right?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Oh for sure, yeah, let's run it.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
So I called Jr and I was like I'm in.
I was like I'm in.
He's like all right, soundsgood.
He was like um, our first racewhere I.
He was like we'll meet in oceancity, Maryland.
He was like like, and thenyou'll kind of take over from
there.
He was like he didn't know I,he didn't even know I had my cdl
.
You know, I was just coming torun the race team.
You know, like I told him, Iwas like I got my cdl.

(35:48):
I was like we could save on adriver.
You know, and last year it wasonly the race boat and the
support truck, like the semitrucks, two guys, me and david,
perfect.
Yeah, it worked well.
We vibed well.
Then mid season we startedbringing on mechanics, we
started bringing on more people.
So then we needed to bring inour re hauler and they wanted a

(36:09):
merch trailer, this stuff.
So it started evolving.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
More people, more people, more people.
And then it started.
Virals turned into a full-timedeal.
You know, like off raceweekends.
We were planning the next raceplanning, planning the season.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
It started to take me away from my other business.
Yeah, so, I had to make adecision, you know, like,
whether I wanted to stay on thepath of, you know, helping other
people live their dreams, oryou live yours, or try to live
one of mine.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Well, the very beginning of this, you said you
wanted you were a young band,that was, you know, on a boat,
and that was your dream exactlyand, like I tell everybody, I
was like I'll always take achance, you know, like I'll
always take it.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
You know like what's gonna happen, you know.
So I, you know, I kind of wentfull-fledged into it.
You know, I told jr you know Ihave to.
It was I just came on as a crewmember at first and then, after
like three, four races, jr waslike I want to name you crew
chief of the race team.
We value you.
You do a phenomenal job.
Appreciation he was there.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, he appreciated it.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
He takes care of everything.
My girlfriend and my son-in-law, my daughter.
They come out paid for Hotels,paid for Rental cars, paid for
he's like, whatever you pay foron race weekends, he was like I
want to take care of it.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
He was like I know what you put into this and what
it takes.
At the end of last year we weregoing to do like 14 races a
season, what we originally weresupposed to do like 14 races a
season, what we originally weresupposed to do promoters clash,
blah, blah blah.
We end up splitting in half.
But I had literally we I hadour whole schedule planned for
the whole season and I was goingto be gone.
You know like it was going tobe a full-time, yeah, like the

(37:53):
carnival well, you're travelinga lot, it's exhausting, it is.
There's only so much you can doit's, and as much as you try to
work and try to make it workwith everybody, you know there's
always going to be ups anddowns, peaks and valleys and
stuff like that.
So him, you know, seeing thatand valuing it and knowing, you
know, and trying to make iteasier and help, you know, the
last day of coco beach, he'slike take him to disneyland.
He's like we're right byorlando, go to disneyland.

(38:15):
You know, enjoy the day, don'tworry about anything here that's
cool so stuff like that.
You know, it was like thoseleaps and bounds, you know,
because it's like I do work somuch, do work so hard, and so
it's like I do sacrifice a lotof that family time.
It's like that it is not adownfall, you know, but it is
i'ma go, you know.
And it's like when we first met, you know like, and then it

(38:37):
wasn't until like miami, where,like, I was in my hotel and it
was like two o'clock in themorning and something was like
you gotta go check those bumpers, make sure, like that was your
task for this weekend was takecare of that boat.
You know, like god forbid, awave came, a bumper moved, and
then that boat is now rubbing up.
You know something, so justsomething that told me like yo

(38:58):
just take a 15 minute drive,you're in fucking miami you know
, just go drive.
Look at the sights.
Yeah, smoke.
So I go and I come and walkaround the back door.
You and this lunatic are out onthe back patio podcasting at
three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I'm like what the hell are these guys doing?
Like what this is?
I was like all right, I thoughtI was different.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
This is the whole thing and we didn't see each
other like because you werepodcasting I remember you there
I remember you and so like thenext morning I came and I was
like you.
I was like you go non-stop, bro,and he was like I do.
He was like I got so much, butand that's when it comes, you
know, like, when you talk I'velistened to all your podcasts so
you know it like not only theway to your life rests on your
shoulders, but every singleperson that invests in you and

(39:44):
trusts in you is, you know, soit's like you don't even, just
not.
Sometimes you have to put yourstuff aside, because so many
people have put their stuffaside for you know.
So it's.
It's a hard balance, man.
And for you.
You know, like I can say allthe time, like a lot of people
come to Havasu with big dreamsand want to do big things and

(40:06):
nothing comes to fruition.
And like I told my girlfriend,I was like when I delivered
Ryan's boat there was like sixstorage units.
You know, setting off fireworks.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, it was me and my family.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
There's nothing you know.
And then you come here now andit's, it's, it's the north side
of town.
Now, this is the it's, and ifit's not this year, it's going
to be within the next five years.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
It's oh yeah, it's coming.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
We're going to paradigm.
You know we're going toparadigm.
You know, like, whether it'sthe gym or if it's office
society, you know it's, it's,it's a daily name now yeah and
have it's.
It's incredible.
And so for somebody that doeswork as hard as I do and put as
much into it as I do, you know,with not knowing exactly the end
goal, you know, but justwanting to go, go, go because

(40:50):
you know, you know, like, youknow, like people tell me all
the time don't chase the money,don't chase the money, chase
your passion, chase your dreamsyou know, and I was always yeah,
but I like nice things.
Yeah, but do that, okay.
So I had a boat of my own.
I got into boat racing.
Race boats ruined my boat, 28foot single motor, never going

(41:14):
to be able to compete with therace boats that I'm now getting.
The opportunity to run and driveand test and tune, and I mean
we put new motors on our boat.
This year we went to 500s.
We spent two weeks testing thisboat, you know, and it was me
testing, I was learning the boat, learning math, learning all
these things that I neverthought I would be a part of.
Getting the opportunity to doit.
That's sort of.

(41:34):
This year we go to the shootoutand we bring my boss's pleasure
boat, you know, which is like aFerrari on the water?
You know which is like aferrari on the water.
You know, yeah, he didn't stepfoot in the boat the whole
weekend.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I drove it the whole time, the whole time he didn't
get it in the boat one time so,but he wanted it there.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
But he wanted it there and it was like I'm lucky
enough to.
I may not have the bank accountto have it, but I'm enjoying it
.
I was like I'm banging thatsystem like it's mine like,
because he told me to like.
Then that's what he told me tolike.
I I went to over to the houseon the turn the stereo on.
Oh bro, I was just cruisingenjoying.

(42:09):
You know you gotta turn thestereo on, man.
It makes it a whole notherlevel.
It makes you want to drivefaster.
But why are you telling me this?
Like, but okay, like and so.
And then it was like the nextday we did the make-a-wish ride.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
You know, that's the reason that was really cool.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
That's the reason why we went to the shootout this
year was for the make-a-wishride.
Last year, I was blessed andfortunate enough to be sponsored
by white boy rick and we ranthe shootout and beat the world
record.
Yeah, outboard catamaranpowered boat.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
We worked with motec and kong you were all over the
place when you ran that awesomedude.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
It was an awesome experience to be a part of that
and I mean to set those types ofspeeds in an outboard boat.
You know to be the first part.
You know to go that fast in anoutboard powered boat was it's a
big deal, yeah so, like I said,we worked with motak and kong
and a bunch of people and wewere like kong performance, kong
performance yeah, I, I saw thatkong greg kong one of my I call

(43:03):
greg right now we can have aconversation.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
He did my, he did my.
C6 zr1.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, performance, same, greg, I had a thousand
five horsepower to the wheels at105 degree heat on the dyno.
That thing was my upper nines.
Yeah, for sure it was same faste85 the whole time.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
So Kong and Motec came at JR and they said hey, we
want to develop a plug-and-playproduct for the 450-500 motor.
So they now have a computerthat's plug-and-play for the 450
and 500 computer that'll upyour horsepower to 130
horsepower Above the 450.
Above the 450 with a pulley.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
So it's a 530.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
530, you put aong pulley and an intake on, you get
even a little bit more.
Be crazy, drill a hole in your,in your engine, calling you
even get a little bit more outof that.
So I worked with these.
We worked, don't tease me, dude,I'll get a center console over
100, no problem is unbelievableso I'm, I'm with um p owns MoTeC

(44:01):
and we're in this capsule boatand he's used to pleasure boats
and stuff like that.
So we're in this confined space, he's got his laptop and stuff
like that.
I was like, how long did ittake you to learn that computer
program?
Like learn it wrote it.
I was like, oh, I was likeyou're that guy and he's like,
yeah, I'm that guy.
So we did tests and tunes andpasses and he went and adjusted

(44:26):
parameters and all sorts ofstuff and so we developed that
computer.
Last year is all prototype andnow this year it's now in
production where it's plug andplay all my tech andC and tell
them They'll send you computers,you put in the ECUs, you put on
the Kong pulley Up yourhorsepower like that baby.
This year they're outboardcatamaran 147.

(44:47):
I saw that there was a couplewith the built internals using
boost that were up in the 150s.
Phenomenal numbers, notrealistic, not plug and play.
You can't do that every day.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Justin wagner with waves and wheels, who now owns
doug right performance powerboats.
Okay.
So my d-dub I was in, I wasdoing, you were in a right
performance, yeah, rightperformance.
So I ended up having that's thesame hall, but it's exactly the
same hall.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
it was when um performance boat center
partnered up with doug rightpower boats to kind of up their
fit and finish.
That was their first generationof cool paint jobs, cool
interiors, big stereos and stufflike that.
Yeah, that was that, for Madeit more of a pleasure boat.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Exactly, yeah, went from straight race to pleasure.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
With the race bottom, yeah, with the race bottom,
it's the same, exact bottom.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Do full carbon layup.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
That thing was dude, still to this day, everybody
talks about that.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
That was a great boat , 100%.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
That's probably one of the best.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Doug White or White Wright performances ever.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Right 100%.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
That thing was great.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
I had a lot of good memories on it.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
But to see the 147 range.
I was impressed Because I did124 on my way with the way it
was propped.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
In three quarters of a mile, with having a quarter
mile start and a quarter milethat you have to slow down in.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, quarter mile start and a quarter mile that
you have to slow down in.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, you're always not.
It's not easy.
No you can't just gas it.
You have to start at 40 milesper hour, you know.
So it's like right at 40 andyou have to hit it right.
If you don't hit it right, youspin the props got it at the
wrong, you know, that's yourright there, you know.
And so to see those numbersbeing hit consistently, yeah is
phenomenal, yeah, phenomenal,you know that is so cool that's

(46:19):
what a lot of these guys inthese big inboard outboard boats
, ah, 150, 150 can't do 150,yeah, we can yeah, yeah, we can
and you know what we can do, too, is turn key every weekend yeah
for sure.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, it's easy to pull out, in and out.
Yeah, it's a whole different.
That's what I love about thoseboats is that it's just from an
all-around economically.
You know it's better, it's notnearly as expensive.
You can get those for seven,eight hundred thousand.
It's where it's at, hey dude,but you got five hundreds out,
you got your warranty.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
All this exactly easy to plug and play my raptor
pulled it and change the oil.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
You're good to go and my raptor pulled it.
Yeah, you don't need a sportchassis.
It's don't Exactly, it's awhole different level of ease,
man, exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
So yeah, it was a blessing to be able to run with
them last year and being able tobe a part of something so big
in the boating world and be ableto put down a number.
I had a world record for a year, yeah.
I got smashed, but I couldn'tbe prouder.
You had the gold for the year,man exactly, and it was like our
passes, hope, developed hispasses, yeah.
So you know, it was like it wasall working together.

(47:22):
You know, we were all likewe're all gonna get to the moon
eventually, you know so but itwas like I said, it was very,
and then, coming to this year,we came.
We didn't come to run theshootout, we just came to do the
make-a-wish, which is coolbecause the sponsor that we're a
part of is big about givingback.
You know, I mean, even witht-shirt giveaways, t-shirts
aren't cheap.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
They come to each race with like 200 t-shirts that
I give away, like toilet paper,you know, like, but they want
to see their name, about fivethousand dollars for the stuff
they want to see their name outthere.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
They want to, you know, and it has grown.
You know we have fans now.
Yeah, you know, like we havefans, like people come, they're
like they're wearing our stuff,you know, like it's cool, you
know, to see, to see it, but youguys are fast you guys are
champions last year, you know,and we're.
We got one more race.
We're going for that two-timenational championship next week
in st pete, you know.
So hopefully that all comes tofruition.

(48:07):
Trying to wrap up on a bunch ofstuff up to try to get down to
miami to do a couple test daysbefore st pete, yeah, make sure
we're good to go.
So yeah, we're definitelylooking for a two time and then
it just brings awareness as asport, you know, it shows that
we're the fastest hole in ourclass you know, it's point
proven hey, do you remember?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
so the day before my event, the actual event, I think
I was like saturday, but fridayremember I did a podcast with
uh, with jordan belford the wolfof wall street, the real wolf
of wall street took you there Iknow yeah do you?
Remember the video that I sentwhen we were prepping for the
webinar?
So you basically managed theboat.
When I jumped off, I went up tohis podcast studio.
Did you remember the video thatme and Joe were sending of you
sitting?

Speaker 2 (48:44):
on the boat.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, it was awesome.
You were just sitting therelike you looked like the
bodyguard I was just it was sucha surreal experience.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I mean, I was on the phone the whole time calling
people.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
I'm on Jordanordan belford's dock right now.
You won't believe where I am.
Look at this.
It's a cruise ship right there.
That's why I was taking thevideo like you're just loving
life man, exactly, but there wasyachts everywhere.
It's a great spot and it's likedude.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
It was like I said, like I say over and time, time
and time again right place righttime you know, because it was
like I could have stopped at thegas station to get an energy
drink.
I wouldn't have seen Danielyeah.
I wouldn't have seen you andhow it all fell into place.
I didn't go outside to smokethat cigarette.
I wouldn't have met JR.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, and it was like and JR, they're such nice guys,
oh my.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
God.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Were you with us when I went to the.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Keys.
I skipped out on the date Cause.
So in Havasu, I like to givepeople their time.
You know like I love to go outand enjoy the boat, but at the
same time, if if you're fullycapable of taking your boat out
and enjoying it with your wife.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I want you to do that .

Speaker 2 (49:49):
You know like as much as I love to be there and love
to go fast and all that stuff.
But there's, you bought thatboat for a reason.
Sure, you go with your wife,not this random dude you met, to
take care of the boat, you know, let's, let's be honest, yeah,
but yeah, no, it's it's fullcircle right place, right time.
And then, like meetingeverybody and, like you said,
jared the nicest guy.
They're really nice guys, sonice White.

(50:14):
I don't know how that's goingto be real quick, but yeah, we
got to make it real quick.
We still have a little bit oftime.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
So when we I remember so I'd come out, I knew those
guys.
The guys were out there right.
They're just hanging out.
I know you guys were all.
There was like four or fiveguys who were just kind of
kicking back out in the back.
I remember we had a littlebreak, and so we definitely are

(50:39):
in miami but I'm like, who isthis guy?
and uh, and somebody came up tome and was like and it was so
crazy because they're like well,that's white boy rick.
And I'm like it clicked becauseI just watched the documentary
on netflix like a month beforethat and I usually fall asleep
to the tv like that's what I doI fall asleep, right so I
remember, remember starting thatdocumentary and I'll take maybe

(51:00):
three or four nights to getthrough it and I stayed up the
whole time to watch it because Icouldn't believe what happened.
The whole story is insane.
So, for those of you that arelistening right now, if you
haven't watched the documentarycalled White Boy Rick it's a
hell of a story.
So just to give you an idea, we.
So how do you?
How would you sum up his life?
What happened?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
he just wrongfully accused, got stuck in yeah, so
he, his, his dad, got into somestuff.
It was like weapons yeah,weapons, selling weapons to the
wrong people.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
He tried to help his dad out you know, you and I both
know him.
We're gonna get him on ourpodcast.
Let's do that you need to, andhe'll love it, he'll totally do
it.
Yeah, I talked to him all thetime on.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Instagram.
So he was a hustler in thestreets.
He was a young kid, growing upin the hood, so he knew a lot of
people, knew a lot of things,so he tried to help his dad got
out of some stuff so he gavesome information to the police.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
And he was a young kid.
He was like 15, 16.
Yeah, he started being aninformant.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
And so it kind of snowballed into working for the
feds.
You know he was a paid employeeby the by the feds to find out
information.
You know about these streetgangs and stuff like that.
Well, you get into it and hestarts exposing the wrong people
, mayors police chiefs and stufflike that, because they were in
the drug game.
Exactly now they're like, hey,we gotta shut this.
Yeah, he knows too much.
Put him in jail, you know,literally sent him on a drug buy

(52:20):
, you know, on a drug buy, yeah,and then pretended like they
didn't know him.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah, like, oh, he's been the kingpin, exactly.
And they tried him at 16 or 17.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
17 for life.
Yeah, life, the first lifesentence in Detroit that was
ever given out and given out,and it was all because they let
this get up fast forward.
30 years 30 something years,finally the it was someone had
to die exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah, original da or the original judge, or something
like that they needed to.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Even the original judge that put him in jail his
niece, who is now a judge,didn't agree with any of this
yeah, I was trying.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
He was trying to get him out.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
He was lobbying to try to get him out, but that
whole government man.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
It's a whole other political stuff.
There's no joke, do what theywant.
It's over drug money and themoney and they were all getting
kicked back.
So he gets out, so he gets out.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
And then he's smart.
He teams up with this guyWeed's legal now in michigan, so
he's, you know, sells his name.
You know his name and his storyand time teams up with his
partner and they started weedbrand, yeah, and took off, crazy
dude just because culture, youknow like just the name, the
story, you know everythingbehind it.
You know his brand, you know his, his logos.

(53:33):
It's cool, you know it's.
It's cool, it's hip.
You know so he.
He took off with that.
You know, just slowly startedsuccessfully, like.
You know so he, he took offwith that, you know just slowly
started successfully like that.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
You know and we're, but he was.
He's just the nicest guy,though Like the most dude I've
never been.
You would never think.
Oh my God, he's never know.
He's so kind.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
He's like I live like I'm 16.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
He'll ball out and he'll do all those things that
we did before that he got tomiss out on.
So now he wants he's livinglife.
Yeah, and he is living he's out.
I see his instagram blowing upand like celebrities this and
doing that everyone knows him.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
But you know and stuff, he's just he, hopefully I
, I really enjoy.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
I remember I just kind of do a little round circle
because they, you guys allstayed like longer than
everybody else.
Everyone else took off.
You guys stayed, guys stayedfor a while.
I think after, like, you guystook off at night.
Yeah, we were there.
We were there for a while, Ithink we ended up ordering a
pizza.
Yeah, we just hung out.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, well, he stayed the whole time, the whole time,
and I mean he, and he came backthe next day the most humble
the way to the race.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
You need a drink, what you need.
Yeah, he's just a nice guy.
I was like dude, I got comehere, you're vip bro.
Like I got you like what youneed to drink.
You know, you know I I there'sso much controversy out there
for stuff like that.
You know what I do is I justjudge people based on my own
interaction dude, I got enoughlife experience.
I can sniff it out right now,you know I get into rooms with
millionaires, bro, I can tellyou someone's personality, who.
They are real quick and and Ijust I really enjoy he's always
do this times.
I'll post on social media.
I'll write like a story abouthey man, it's so good to see you
doing well, man, I miss you bro, would love to see you soon.
He's just such a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
So Hank, my dog, everybody knows tank, I take him
everywhere I go, so he's a gooddog.
So I happen to have him, uh, inmy truck and white boy rick
walks up and I look down andthen tank goes running past my
feet.
I'm like yo, what, the?
What are you doing?
And then white boy rick comeswalking up.

(55:27):
He's like nobody's locked uparound me let him out.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
So he's always.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
He's always letting tank out, he's always feeding
him grilled cheese and stuff.
I'm like that's so funny.
Yeah, so he loves.
He loves tanks so yeah.
So he's always like and I meanhe's awesome dude.
And so then last year I meethim in st clair, which was his
hometown.
We did an opa race there.
We didn't even race, we justwent there for fun to help
promote opa.
Opa is a smaller organizationof offshore powerboat racing but

(55:55):
they're like 700 classes, openbow boats.
You know nothing in the caliberthat we we have, but we go to
their events to try to bringpeople to the to their events,
try to bring other race teams.
If another race team will showup, we'll race them, you know.
So we would go to these events.
So I met him at st claire,which was a smaller race weekend
and stuff like that, and I'm Ipulled his boat in the parade

(56:17):
because we had the white boyRick boat.
You know, for the St Clair hesponsored put his big snowman up
on the boat, it was awesome.
And so then we had our raceboat and then so we do parades
around the towns and stuff likethat.
So I was pulling the white boyRick boat.
Like you said, I met him inMiami and everything like that.
I didn't even watch thedocumentary.
I didn't even know I didn't evenwatch the documentary, I didn't

(56:41):
even know, I didn't even know.
I still just thought it was justrandom miami white, yeah, yeah.
So like, so I'm driving theboat in the parade and this is
like 30 minutes from hishometown.
So this dude in this town, ahero, everybody's like.
White boy rick, we love you.
I'm like, who is this dude?
I'm driving the boat in theparade, I google white boy rick

(57:03):
netflix documentary.
I'm like I'm I'm watching inthe parade, I'm watching he's on
the back of the truck in achair and I'm watching his
netflix documentary.
I'm like who the hell is he?
So then, like I, you know,watched the documentary.
And then the next day Darrenwas like hey, can you take Rick

(57:25):
out in the boat?
He wants to go for a ride inthe boat.
I'm like hell, yeah.
So the dude jumps in the boat.
He's like seven years ago I wasin a prison cell.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Right now I'm in this race boat with you.
I'm like this is pretty cool,bro, let's go.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
So we're racing around and shit the whole time.
He's FaceTiming everybody.
Look at we on a race boat, allthis stuff, cool as shit.
So then we clicked.
Ever since then, he comes backlike an hour later with like a
box of merch hoodies, t-shirts,jackets, everything hats.
He's like this is all for you,bro, don't give any of this
stuff away.

(58:01):
He was like this is out of mycloset, so it's all new era you
know like good stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
So and he's always.
He's like you're going to be atthe race this weekend.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I'm like so he's like I'm bringing you more year.
I'm bringing you more year.
And he's like tag me onInstagram.
He's like when you tag me onInstagram, text me and I'll
share it, because his Instagramblows up.
Oh yeah, he does all the timeand he'll get pissed if I tag
him in something.
And you don't tell him, and Idon't tell him Like bro, I
missed it.
What the?

Speaker 1 (58:32):
fuck and hey, I tied you.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Share my stuff.
Yeah, I don't, I'm not.
That's not why I'm doing it,you know.
So, so he's real cool aboutthat.
So yeah, so then, like I said,he did the make a wish last year
with that boat and then thisyear we went to Lotto to do the
make a wish with JR's boat andstuff like that.
So I was blessed and privilegedto you know, wheel around that
nice brand 39 canopy, I meanthat one was beautiful dual ac

(58:58):
units.
The thing's got 36 speakersinside of it.
You close this canopy and it'sjust like you're inside the sub
yeah, it's just, it's anincredible boat handles
phenomenally.
We brought a stock set of props.
I didn't do any tuning to itwhatsoever and I just cursed 120
yeah, and we ended up doing theshootout for fun.
No right on jerry was like hey,you want to take gus falcone
and do the shootout?

(59:18):
I was like no right on Jaredwas like hey, you want to take
Gus Falcone and do the shootout.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I was like sure, let's do that.
That's funny.
We just talked about that.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
So talk about who Gus is so Gus Falcone is if you've
watched the Netflix documentaryseries, Another documentary got
it.
Another documentary, AnotherNetflix guy the cocaine cowboys.
Back in the boat racing days.
It was one of the boat racingteams.
That's how they funded.
Boat racing was smugglingcocaine.
They washed their money byopening up banks and buying real

(59:43):
estate Banks, making Miami whatit is today.
You know the light life, theglitz, the glamour that Miami is
, that stuff that you know PeteyPablo and all those guys you
know shout about now that theybuilt that.
You know like they made thatlifestyle what it was.
And so, uh, he came to ourcocoa beet trace.

(01:00:05):
I met him and right away I knewhim because I've watched the
documentary and you know, beingin the industry, in the sport
and everything like that.
You hear of all these stories,the stories exactly, and so to
see this guy in the flesh, youknow, it's like up and you know
like you don't want to glorifyhim for him being a drug dealer,
because at the end of the day,he wasn't a drug dealer, you

(01:00:25):
know, like his organization hisfamily.
Yeah, he's just an area histhing was the boat racing yeah,
the passion, yeah that's, that'shis passion.
At the end of the day, he stillwants.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
He wants to build a new boat he was the one he's
like, the one where you listento those documentaries, but he
was like the kid of the guysthat were doing all the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
So that was this other guy.
He was the cousin of WillFalcone.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
He's Gus Falcone.
Yeah, that's right, the cousinof him.
But he knew the politics.
He knew the politics.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Like I said earlier, meetings with presidents and
stuff like that.
Oh yeah, drug organizationsthat are so big it makes banks
look small, you know, like itwasn't, you know.
So that's why I said I don'tlike to glorify him as in the
cocaine days and stuff like that, because he's really passionate
about the boats, you know, andthat's what, and that's he comes
in and I took him for a boatride the other day.
He taught me something that Inever learned in a boat, you

(01:01:18):
know so, and it's like prettycool, you know, and like he
calls us pussies and stuff likethat, because of our races
they're 10 laps in a circle.
These guys used to do 176 milesto the Bahamas, lap the Bahamas
and go back to Miami.
You know, Like out in the ocean.
You know, you know likeendurance style, so like it's a
little bit different, what it isnow to what it was then, but he

(01:01:41):
wants to get back involved init now and help bring it to what
it was yeah, back in the daywhen we had so much exposure,
when it was on espn and stufflike that.
It sucks that you gotta not usehim, but you know like he he
lived it he did it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Well, he's got a.
You know, he's got a bigfollowing for giving back,
exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I think he's a Christian guy.
He's huge with church and stufflike that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Yeah, he speaks at all these churches and so forth,
yeah, and I see him on socialmedia.
He really kind of narrows downthe politics of what transpired
back in those days 100%.
He's definitely.
I mean, he was always a cleanguy, but he's really critical
here I can.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
it was told by the snitches yeah, so it's one-sided
.
You know like, yeah, it's cool,it's entertaining and stuff
like that, but at the end of theday it was one side of the
story.
He's trying to get the realside out, you know to where he
can explain, like, how it becamethe organization that it was
and everything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
So he's trying because he got help by
politicians to get there 100.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
He can't do what you do without it I mean come, come
on now.
So politicians, policedepartments, everybody, we were
sitting at breakfast one daytalking about all the people
that were on this payroll.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
You know like literally everybody that you
could think of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
So, it's wild and crazy, but that's the sport.
You know, the sport ismoney-based, it's
celebrity-based.
We have celebrities coming inand out and stuff like that.
But it's celebrity based.
We have celebrities coming inand out and stuff like that.
But it's cool, it's crazy, it'swild, and how it's all unfolded
from you know right place,right time, you know, and then
just taking it, taking the balland running.

(01:03:08):
You know like running, running,running.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Well, you've done good.
It sounds like you know One ofthem.
Well you're already there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
I'm like when I was in my, when I did truck driving
and equipment operating, my goalwas to operate and run the
biggest trucks and move thebiggest loads.
Did it?
Yeah, you know, so it was likecheckmark completion, you know,
like goal achieved, you know.
And so then it's like nextthing not that I'm always hop,
but it's like to keep this going, you know like.
And then it's like I've createdthe relationships that I've

(01:03:38):
created, like with the drillingcompany.
I still work for them.
I'm leaving here, I'm going toLAX to get on a flight to go do
a move for him, and then I have600,000 things that I have to do
for my own company.
And it's like the going back tothe, not being able to say no
because my buddy called me andhe asked me for my help.
It's like yeah, yeah, dude, I'mthere for you whatever you need,
I got you.
And then, like I said, it'sthat parachute, that backup plan

(01:04:00):
sometimes sucks to have,because then it's like, oh well,
I know I can't fail because Igot that, you know so totally
like.
Sometimes it's like people arelike what do you do?
You got to take that jump, yougot to make that full-fledged
leap into it.
You know and like for a while Idid it, you know, and it sucked
, it was scary, you know like itwas like ramen noodles and shit
like that, you know.
So it was like all right, I'llstill do this.

(01:04:21):
I could still help them out andkeep my health insurance active
.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
I think maybe we can survive in this life, so that's
what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
And that's.
That's kind of what it does.
And it's like everybody asks me.
They're like what are you doingtomorrow?
I don't know, man, I don't know, but it's going to be something
, it's going to be somethingcool.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
It's going to be something cool.
Well, dude, it's really fun towatch because I mean, you're
getting interviewed and you'regetting on there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
It's crazy, it's crazy, it's so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
You're all over the place when it comes to this race
team and I think they reallyrely on you a lot, and I see
that camar the company and theymoved into it.
They just were getting gettingtheir feet wet.
So now, now you guys areliterally, you know, winning,
winning races.
I mean, it's impressive in twoyears.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
In essence, you know so so, since I, since I've come
on me and jr talked about it theother day, there's only been
one race that we haven't podiumfinished yeah, that's pretty
cool yeah well, you know, likethat's a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
So I tell everybody you know a lot of people you
know sing our praises justbecause we've gotten to a
certain place.
I came from, you know,answering phones in a call
center doing more guys to wherewe are in a truck shop.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Yeah, I don't bug in the guy.
Hey, what are you doing?
What are you going to movetoday?
Can I come help you?
I'll throw your chains, youknow like, that's how I got it.
You know, like a lot of guys inthe in the trucking industry
didn't do what the loads that Idid until they were 50, 60,
because it was a seniority base.
But it got to the point wherethese guys were like just let
him fucking do it already youknow like, and that's how you

(01:05:46):
know.
So it was like, honestly likebugging people asking questions,
wanting to be a part of it.
The first race that I went toin Key West was because I
brought a boat down there.
I knew Vinny DiOrio raced and Isaw him and I said, hey man,
can I help you out whatever youneed, if I could just hang out
and wear a jersey, you know like, just to be a part of it.
Then, bam, next thing you know,I'm there in the water changing
props for the guy.

(01:06:06):
Yeah, I'm like.
This guy in 20 minutes isgiving me a $20,000 prop in my
hand to put on his boat you know.
So it's like shit yeah, so, yeah, it's cool.
It's like I said go for thebest, go for the biggest, want
to be the fastest, but juststill keep it all there yeah,
you know.
Well, dude, you know me, man,I'm going to be tracking you

(01:06:27):
guys and obviously use you forall the stuff I can use you for,
you know I always appreciate itand that's that's cool and like
a lot of people don't get whatI've put into the race stuff and
they don't like working aroundit, you know.
But I do still have a coregroup of guys that's still like
hey, whenever you can get to it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Dude Rami type text me.
But hey man, just thinkingabout you.
I see Colin, all the time youknow, just thinking about you.
You know that type of stuff.
Joe, hannah pays me.
Yeah, awesome, yeah, it's great, it's really was a fruitful for
you.
Just going to give you an ideaof what it's like to go from
kind of a cradle to grave andgetting into the race teams.
You know, and it's so cool toto to bring you on to a podcast

(01:07:04):
because it's so uncommon to havesomeone that's doing what
you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, but I want people to know together.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Yeah, well, it's part of our brand, right Family
office.
You know dreams and they'reliving their dreams and how they
got there and did things.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
You know, like, like, with that building that you're
building is going to beincredible.
Like I say all the time we'regoing to paradise, it's going to
be the spot.
Yeah, it's going to be the spot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
We, we, we're getting a lot of good, we're getting a
lot of recognition.
I think it's gonna be great.
So thank you, brother, I reallyappreciate you being here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Appreciate you, man All.
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