March 27, 2025 • 38 mins
Flying mere feet above speeding boats while a photographer captures the perfect shot might sound like a scene from an action movie, but for Jason Pope, it's just another day at the office. In this revealing conversation with Ryan Garland, Jason shares the fascinating journey that led him to found Eternity Helicopters after years of fighting forest fires from the sky.
What began as a desire to spend more time with his wife and daughters transformed into a thriving business that has positioned Jason as one of the most sought-after helicopter pilots for high-end boat photography. His meticulous approach is evident in everything from the two-year search for the perfect R44 helicopter to obtaining specialized FAA authorizations that most small operators don't pursue.
The conversation takes an unexpected turn when Jason recounts a viral adventure involving a popular streamer, a $100,000 prize, and dozens of strangers calling his wife's phone trying to discover his location. This hilarious story highlights the unpredictable nature of Jason's work and his ability to maintain professionalism even in the most unusual circumstances.
Perhaps most compelling is Jason's philosophy on safety and business. "Don't chase the money; build relationships," he shares, revealing the mindset that has earned him partnerships with elite photographers like Tommy Gunn and clients across the country. The name "Eternity" itself comes from his wedding vows—"forever and all eternity"—underscoring how deeply his family values influence his professional life.
Whether you're fascinated by aviation, entrepreneurship, or simply enjoy a good adventure story, Jason Pope's journey from firefighting to creating breathtaking aerial imagery offers valuable insights into pursuing passion while prioritizing what matters most.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, ryan Garland here, founder and
chairman of Paradigm.
Thank you for watching ParadigmShift.
We are sponsored today by 10Day Doors.
They are the manufacturer onall of our barn caves project,
all of our structuralengineering, structural steel
and our Paradigm storage product.
So we're happy and I'm excitedtoday to introduce you to Jason
Pope.
He is my helicopter pilot.
He has an R44 and he's donesome amazing things.
(00:22):
So we're going to kind ofinterview him today and kind of
talk about all the wonderfulthings that he's done.
But, uh, I will tell you thereason why I wanted to bring him
on is because he owns eternityhelicopters and he is probably
one of the best pilots I've everseen.
And, uh, I have to.
I have to admit that I've beenwith a lot of pilots and, uh,
some of them scared the livingshit out of me.
(00:42):
But this guy, I mean he getsdown close to the water.
He's doing all these wonderfulfilming.
So all of the filming and allof the videos that you see with
all of our boats and all thecool stuff that you see, this is
the man behind the scenesthat's actually flying.
So, jason, thank you forjoining me today.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, thanks for having me.
Absolutely, buddy.
I mean it's kind of my firstexperience doing something like
this and it's cool.
It's cool to do it and Iappreciate everything you said.
Got to put you in the hot seatman.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Thank you, this is the way to do it Just break the
ice and get going right.
So really I want to moreinterview you and talk a little
bit about your history, yourpast, because I want people out
there that may want to thinkabout hiring you to do other
filming or travel or what haveyou.
So let's talk a little bitabout the business and then
let's talk a little bit aboutyour past.
So let's talk about eternity,helicopters, what you are, what
(01:26):
you do and just kind of thenature of your business at the
moment.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So, um, we are a very small husband wife team.
My wife and I, uh, do ittogether.
We have one helicopter, onepilot, um, but I will say I, I
could not do it without my wifeand friend.
She does all the behind thescenes, all the billing, all the
all the books.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh, I get the bills, I get it Right.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right, all the all that kind of stuff.
Putting the helicopter in theair and flying it safe is is the
operation side, is what I do.
Yeah, behind the scenes is whatshe does.
So basically, we before this Iwas flying a bigger helicopter,
fighting fires.
I loved my job, loved thecompany that I was working for,
(02:11):
loved the people that I wasworking with, but I wanted
something different.
I wanted something new.
When I was on fire, I was inWashington and my schedule was a
12 on 12 off, so, but it workedout to about a 14 day on 10 off
, because you have a travel dayat the beginning of your shift,
(02:32):
after your shift.
Well, I had two girls at home,my wife, my two girls.
I want to be at home, yeah, um.
So we put eternity together, um, and, and me pitching it to my
wife and saying I think we cando this.
Let's go spend a bunch of money.
Let's spend a bunch of moneyand typical guy, buy this
helicopter and I promise it'llwork and so, so, so there's a
(02:56):
little bit of convincing there.
But you know, fortunately shetotally believed in me and we
did it.
We, we put everything.
She's a smart woman, though inme and we did it.
We, uh, we put a smart womanthough she's very, she's very
smart, very smart, um, thank you.
We um.
So we did it.
We went out, we found thehelicopter took me a couple
years to find it we bought itand I and I knew kind of what I
wanted the company to look like,all the way down to the
(03:18):
vehicles that I had, the supportvehicles I had, um, I knew the
color of the support vehicles Ihad.
I knew the color of thehelicopter when I had.
I knew the color of thehelicopter when I was looking
for it, the avionics that Iwanted Very picky, so it took me
a long time to find it.
When we found it, we got it inTexas, bought it in Texas, had
it taken to Oklahoma City.
(03:39):
So they did a whole the pre-buyinspection and I wanted a
hundred hour annual, a hundredhour inspection, the annual,
everything done on it.
So when I pick it up it's readyto go um, flew to oklahoma,
picked it up, flew it home, um,so basically what we do is we we
have an they call it an loa aletter of authorization from the
(04:00):
faa to be a tour company.
So we're in an approved FAAtour company and kind of what
that consists of is the FAA willcome out to your hangar, they
inspected our hangar, theyinspected all of our log books,
and then the helicopter, andthen it was a big interview
process and then we wereapproved for that LOA way.
(04:24):
So after that we kind of wewanted to move more, more into
the filming and video kind ofstuff, which was fun for me
that's the kind of fun flying,sure, um.
So we went and got a what theycall a motion picture movie
manual.
Now, this manual isn'tsomething you get online and say
(04:45):
, okay, you know, print me outall these pages of this manual,
that's that I can operate with.
You have to write the manual,so you have to.
I think it ended up being abouta 16 page document that we
wrote um, this is how we'regoing to operate, these are our
limitations and our restrictionsand basically we file that with
(05:06):
the FAA.
It goes through the wholeapproval process and once it's
approved, it's kind of a bigdeal that you have that.
There's not many operatorssmall operators, I should say
that have a motion picture moviemanual.
So that was approved moviemanual, um, so that was approved
(05:29):
um.
Now when we do our, our, ourshoots, we need event specific
permits, which is easy throughthe once you have your motion
picture movie manual, you applyfor an event permit and you get
your event permit.
Um, so, in the event of uscoming out here and filming all
these boats and stuff going upand down the lake, um, we have a
permit that is specificallydated for those days, for those
days yeah yeah, that is prettycool, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So I remember you and I talking about I wanted our
audience to hear about that andthen you know you were.
I mean you're busy, I mean youseem busy.
I mean I think you had a photoshoot set for tomorrow.
You're getting a bunch of photoshoots for tommy gunn, which is
like the man, the myth, thelegend of photography out here,
and for all the boats and he'straveling all over the country.
He's in miami and he's inozarks.
I mean the guy's all over theplace and he gets the best shots
(06:11):
.
And I remember when I hired him, when you I hired you the first
time to get shots of the boatson I think it was on my ribbon
cutting right, we're correct,yeah and uh, and I just I see
him everywhere and he's, I think, is he, is he.
Has he booked you out for a catfest?
Was it cat fest or desert storm?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
or is it both?
Uh, both both yeah you know,tommy, um kind of a really cool
story with tom, love tom todeath he is.
I've worked, I've worked with alot of good photographers, um,
and a lot of them are, like Isaid, really really good,
professional at what they do.
Um, tom, I, he's, he's, he'sthe elite, I mean he's just he's
(06:54):
good, he's very, very good,very professional.
Um he'll make a slow boat.
Look fast, which is what thepeople that are getting the
photos taken want, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Right, they want, you know make me look fast.
Make me look good, make me lookfast.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Just how he does it.
It's, it's uh, he's awesome towork with, and you guys have
done a lot together, though wewe formed a pretty good
relationship workingrelationship and a personal
relationship.
You know, um, we're we'rebuddies, yeah, um he's just.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I just saw you the other night, right, you guys
came by, you guys were together.
I'm like wait, hold on.
I thought didn't you just gethere?
I didn't know you.
I knew you landed, but I didn'tknow you.
I blinked and I turned around,you guys were both there.
That was really cool, right,all right.
So I, so I got, I'm gonnatotally put you on blast here.
Okay, you got to tell me andtell our audience the story
about when you were hired andthat kid was did that whole like
(07:46):
hey, guess where I'm at you?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
got to tell the story .
Speaker 1 (07:50):
This was an Epic story, mind you guys, everyone
who's listening or watching.
We were on a flight back fromVegas, I think, and you told me
the story and I could not.
I was.
I don't think I've laughed sohard in my life when you're
telling me, when you weretelling me and they're, and the
light bulb clicked on and how itall worked out and why your
wife was getting blown up.
I couldn't.
I was Joe.
(08:10):
Listen to this.
You're going to love this, myfriend.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
This is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
This is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life
.
So you got to tell us the story.
So I was, from the beginning,give the whole story, because
that's what cast is about, man.
Okay, all right, so so I'msorry to put you on blast.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I gotta hear everyone's gonna hear this story
so I can use names and all thatit does oh yeah no problem,
yeah, whatever.
So there's a young kid and he'sa streamer.
I'm not super familiar withthis whole streaming thing, but
but this kid's a streamer, sohe's he.
They call me up, they want meto come up to the rooftop of
this building and the job thisis in la is in LA.
(08:44):
This is in LA.
Okay, not very many buildingsin LA you can land on, but this
one particular one it's 16floors and you can rent the top
floor for an event and it'sbasically just vacant now until
you rent it.
It's an event center, yeah,it's an event space and it's a
360 degrees view of LA, so it'sa super cool spot.
(09:07):
Well, this kid's going to be upthere and we're going to do
filming, so it's a filming gig.
I land, take the helicopter andland on top of this building
and I didn't realize theproduction that it was actually
going to be.
I mean, they had these camerasthat you see on the news, right?
mean these four foot long giantcameras and I'm like, oh, this
(09:29):
is a bigger deal than I thought.
So we landed and, uh, the kidwasn't there yet.
Um, kai colette, kai calaiscolette, something like that,
something like that, kai um, andhe streams himself, like I
guess, 24 hours a day.
This kid just streams and showsyou his life and smokes weed
(09:50):
with with snoop dog and and justdoes whatever and streams it.
And so I'm like this kid'smaking that much money, um, and
they tell me you know how muchthis kid's?
I'm like, oh, my god, I'm inthe wrong business.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah sure, yeah, so it's crazy this stuff you hear
and how these people are makingmoney.
It's wild Right.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So the basis of that day in this event was if you
find Kai, you get $100,000.
So he had $100,000 cash that hedumped out and he's got a
massive following, doesn't he?
Oh, massive he's.
I guess, from my understandingand, like I said, I'm not super
familiar, but from myunderstanding he was like a top
(10:28):
streamer or something.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Okay, okay, so he's got millions of followers, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And it was crazy because, as we're sitting there
and he's going through thiswhole thing, he says you know
he's calling them subs, you knowI need 500 more subs.
And each one of these subs cometo find out like subscribers.
We're giving them $5, $10, $100for access to watch him.
And it's blowing my mind thewhole time I'm standing there.
(10:53):
So the whole thing is you'vegot to find out where Kai's at.
So they start with the cameraon Kai at just his mouth, so all
you can see is his mouth andhe's talking.
And once he gets 500subscribers, you're going to see
his face.
And then the the screen kind ofgets bigger and bigger as he
(11:13):
gets more subscribers.
So so it gets bigger.
And then at one point they theyhave it where him and his buddy
are sitting there and it lookslike a living room, whole stage
set up on top of this building,and then your helicopters in the
background, helicopters behindthe backdrop that they had set
up, and so 500 more subscribers.
(11:36):
And, okay, now we drop the back.
And so the back drops andthere's my helicopter sitting
there, okay, well, behind myhelicopter was the Hollywood
sign.
You can see the Hollywood sign.
You can see the Hollywood sign.
Okay.
So now everybody's kind ofknowing, okay, we're in LA,
obviously downtown LA, on therooftop of this building, and
there's a helicopter.
(11:57):
Well, as I'm standing there, myphone starts ringing and I'm
like, oh shoot, you know, and Ihave it on silent because it's a
production thing, so.
So I kind of stepped to theside and I answered my phone and
it was a.
I don't really know what theguy did.
He said he was like an aircraftbroker or something along those
lines.
He says I need to know whereyou're at.
And I said well, I I don't.
(12:19):
I don't know who you are.
I can't tell you where I'm at.
I said I'm working and um, partof this job is is um got to be
disc?
Are I can't tell you where I'mat.
I said I'm working and part ofthis job is got to be discreet.
And I can't tell you where I'mat.
He said, well, let me tell youwhat's going on.
He says I'm looking for Kai.
He says there's a hundredthousand dollars that Kai's
given.
He says I'll split it with youIf you tell me where you're at.
(12:40):
I said okay.
I said I'm still not going totell you where I'm at.
I said I can't.
It's the job I can't tell youwhere I'm at.
Well, so anyways, long storyshort, a kid finally finds us
and they bring him up to the topof the roof and congratulations
.
They give him, you know, the$100,000 is on a pile on the
(13:00):
table.
Well, they give him this big,you know four foot check that
he's holding, they write hisname on it and all that so.
Well, now we're on top of thisbuilding.
So they want to film Kai flyingoff of the building and flying
away, and at that point it wasprobably the only safe way to
get Kai out of there.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Just the amount of people, huh, just the amount of
people and stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It was going crazy.
Well, my, after I get off thephone with this this guy that I
told him I'm not going to tellmore, is that my wife's calling
me.
And so when she's calling me,like I answer, um, and and she's
saying, now, were you on, wereyou in flight?
Now, no, no, I was still on topof the building, okay, and it
was.
Right after this, thisgentleman called me and I and I
hung up with him.
Um, my wife calls and says areyou okay?
I said yeah, I'm fine, we'redoing this job over here.
She says my phone won't stopringing.
(13:51):
She says I'm in a meeting withattorneys and some of the
property owners that she workswith and stuff.
She says I can't take this call.
My phone doesn't stop ringing.
She says I'm going to have toturn my phone off.
So she was getting call aftercall after call and and so I'm
like because they saw eternityhelicopters what it was was my
(14:13):
tail number and eternityhelicopters was all visible, so
you could google the tail numberand see who who owns the
aircraft.
Yeah, um, well then, theygoogled the company name and
they got a hold of us andthey're trying to find out where
we're at.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Wasn't she freaking out?
Thought you crashed orsomething at one?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
point.
She was pretty nervous therefor a second because there's so
many, you know where's youraircraft and and all this other
stuff that.
And she had no idea, because Ididn't have no idea when we were
going to this job.
I just knew we were filming andthat's all I needed to know.
I didn't know the wholebackstory to what Kai was doing.
Um, so so she ends up turningher phone off because it it
(14:55):
won't stop ringing in in hermeetings.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I couldn't even imagine being her.
You're freaking out, knowingyou're flying and your phone's
blowing up and you're kind ofgoing like wait, hold on, wait.
Did you crash?
Did what happened?
Oh man, I can only imagineright knowing her too.
Her heart probably just wasn'tstopped beating right.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So she felt better after she talked to me and we I
told her you know this is a?
Uh, people are looking for him.
You know he's giving this moneyaway for who can find him first
.
Um, so now I have to take kaiand fly him um out of there.
He gets in the helicopter andthe kid is um, he's a younger
(15:34):
kid, pretty animated, you know.
Full head of dreadlocks.
Um, pretty funny kid, I guess12.3 million subscribers Okay.
Well, there you go, wow.
So he gets in the helicopterand, oh, this is cool, and you
know he's, he's he got a littlebit of a lingo to him, I guess.
(15:57):
Um, and we take off.
Now I have in my, in thehelicopter, I have Kai sitting
in the front seat, the guy thatwon the $100,000 sitting in the
back seat and then the guythat's filming sitting behind me
.
So we pick up and I take off ofthis building and Kai starts
screaming and he's like this isthe coolest thing.
(16:21):
And he says I'm in Grand TheftAuto.
I'm in Grand Theft Auto and I'mlike, oh crap.
So I?
He was so loud I had to isolatehis mic, so I turned his mic
off.
He's screaming so loud I stillcan't hear atc because I need to
fly into santa monica, la, yeah, down to la flying into santa
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monica is pretty congested, um,and you have santa monica is
very particular on how you flyin there, the, the procedure to
get in there, um and you, so youneed to be able to hear them.
So so he's screaming at the topof his lungs.
He's in grand theft auto flyingthis helicopter he's on
facetime or something, what's hedoing?
They had all these cameras andeverything set up in the
(17:02):
helicopter.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You have it.
Oh yeah, why is it on YouTube?
Oh, it's awesome.
I've got to watch this.
It's awesome.
We're going to clip it intothis podcast dude, so I have to
isolate him.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm still struggling to hear ATC.
I take him, we land at SantaMonica Airport, do the whole
filming.
It's all live stream andeverything's there.
Um, now the the escalade, blackescalator whatever is picking
kaya pulls up to the helicopter.
You know, and heaven forbid youwalk into the fbo.
(17:34):
No, the escalate has to pullout to the helicopter.
So they come out.
He jumps in there and thecameraman and the kid that just
won the hundred thousand dollarsare standing there and they're
going.
So, like now what?
And I said well, I don't know.
What do you mean?
What?
What are you looking at me for?
I'm going home.
You're like get out like myjob's done and they're like well
, we don't, we don't have a rideback to the building or we
(17:55):
don't have a.
Well, you may have to call uber.
I mean the building's the otherway, I'm going that way, the
building's that way, so, um, sothey ubered them.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's just all isolated and quiet yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So the camera guy calls an uber, gets an uber, he
gone.
Yeah, he's gone with all thisstuff.
The kid that won the hundredthousand dollars, uh, I don't, I
don't want to jump to.
Sure, I don't know if he hadthe means to to uber, so he's
standing outside did you have?
his money.
He didn't know.
I don't know what he had withhim because it was probably 20,
(18:31):
30 minutes that I'm doing all mything, getting fuel and getting
everything I need to get, uh,to get home, and I look outside.
He's standing outside on thecurb and so I go, hey, like, are
you good, like you have?
He says yeah, I called my buddy, my buddy's coming to pick me
up, so so he had a friend comingto pick him up.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Meanwhile kai was was on the road going dude, could
you imagine, just I, I think,when you were telling me the
first time, I'm like I can onlyimagine brenda, your wife, just
going.
Oh my because I think, justbecause, dude, that many phone
calls that fast, you thinkyou're getting an accident.
And that's what she thought.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, I know, yeah.
And so until she spoke to meshe was pretty nervous, because
everybody that was calling herwas kind of a how do you answer
that Like?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
where are you guys at ?
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I'm a joker anyways, you know, yeah, where are you at
?
What are you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I want to know what the money with you that kind of
stuff, Could you imagine I'llsplit the money with you.
Where are you guys at?
That's funny.
Yeah, I couldn't do it.
When you told me that story, Icouldn't believe it.
Man, I think that made my day.
I'm coming back from astressful day.
Yeah, that was.
That was pretty funny.
Well, thank you for sharingthat.
(19:41):
So the other, you know, I'veI've flown a lot.
I like being up in the air andI travel a lot and the one thing
that's really cool and I alwaystell everybody when you have
you have you know, you you spendtime with a pilot and you kind
of hear all the stories andyou're going to hear um, you
know, I guess where I reallyappreciate about you is how much
of a family man you are.
So a lot of our conversations,you know, looking at God's
(20:02):
country and we're up in the air,has been really family oriented
and um, and I think there waslike a brotherhood that was
created.
So I really consider you one ofmy closest friends and now
you're flying my son around andit's so.
It's just very rewardingknowing that you are, in essence
, another mentor for him,because he's experiencing the
things that I experienced whenhe get up there.
He texted me when he landed.
(20:23):
He said it was his coolestthing and he can't wait to come
out again and that type of stuffand uh, and that's the biggest
blessing.
But you know that I thinkthere's, there really is a
brotherhood that's created whenyou're up in the air, like that,
because there's there really is, there is you just look at
things differently when you'redown on the ground.
It's just so different frombeing up in the air.
You know, once you get up in theair, you're like man, this is
the way to travel.
(20:43):
It's like you know, it's like atime machine.
It saves you time.
It's just the best thing in theworld.
But when you're down on theground, you're like man, can you
just fly me to my house realquick?
It'll take four minutes when ittakes me 30 minutes to get
there, you know.
But to bring you on was youknow how?
It was really cool that you saidyesterday that you feel in your
(21:05):
heart that you're never goingto die in a helicopter.
You're going to die an old manin a bed.
And that's really cool becausethat means that you know in your
heart you're never going to,you're not going to be dead in a
helicopter, and that's cool forsomeone like me to hear that
you feel so convicted that youare always going to be safe.
But that does go hand in handwith my belief in you from the
beginning and how you'vepracticed and all the things
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you've taught me and so forth,and I just want to thank you for
that.
And I want to thank youpublicly because you know I do
have a lot of responsibilitiesand and when my with my son and
so forth, you're probably one ofthe best men I know and I've
never seen another man thatcares so much about his family,
that wants to fly, enjoy hislife, but is always there to
make his family, his life, hiseverything.
And I wanted to publicly tellyou that.
(21:48):
And I want to tell everybodyelse how much you know, if they
decide to reach out to you, um,that they're in good hands and
that's the most important thing.
When you're in a little R44, youknow.
And it's just a littledifferent because everyone's
been to like small planes, noteveryone's been in a helicopter.
I've learned that right.
Remember, when we had the firstribbon cutting, you took
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everyone on tours.
Sure, everybody's never been ina helicopter before.
Joe, were you in a helicopterbefore that one?
No, you were not.
Well, with derrick, no, okay,yeah, one time before that one
time.
But even then, and just just tomake sure, so it's with derrick
the one that introduced you to.
Oh, that's right.
So joe did introduce us.
Wait, how did you?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
introduce us again.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You remember we were looking for me?
Oh, that's right.
So Joe did introduce us.
Wait, how did you introduce usagain, do you remember?
Oh, that's right.
And you found him somewhere.
Yeah, so he was looking.
We were looking for the old guythat we used Correct, but he
found you and you're likeactually, and that's kind of how
I hooked up with Tom Tommy Lee.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, he contacted me and said, hey, you and you're
like actually, and and that'skind of how I hooked up with tom
tommy lee.
Yeah, um, he contacted me andsaid, hey, uh, this is what I
got going.
I'm a photographer in havasu.
Um, I've flown with with theother gentleman that would that
had the company, um, but I'mlook, I need a new helicopter.
Uh, he's not operating anymore.
Yeah, I need a new helicopter.
So that was my introduction toHavasu and I've been coming out
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here for a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, you have a house here, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I was very familiar with Havasu so it wasn't like
completely new to me.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So do you remember the first time I think it was
our very first time when I hadmy Doug Wright and we were going
up the river and you up up theriver and you were low?
I mean, you were low, we had.
It looked like we were doing ahundred miles an hour.
I think we probably were.
You were so low and I had myother buddy that was filming in
the in the plane right below onthe other side of us, there's in
the in the boat, both side ofus, and you were're on the far
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side from the camera of my boatand you were so low it looked
like your skids were on thefront.
Did you remember that?
Do you remember, do you kind ofremember that shot?
It was a while you were runningwith me for a while.
I do remember filming that boatoh, that was on a different day
yeah, that was a good, that wasa learning experience yeah,
don't hit the drone.
Don't hit the helicopter withthe drone, joe yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Um, we were fairly new to each other.
Um, so working together was wasfairly new and and I take
responsibility on not asking theright questions, right, um, hey
, joe, don't fly into me please.
The the shot was super cool itwas a great shot.
Yeah, that's a super cool shot.
But, um, I did talk with one ofmy my buddies, I think it's tom
(24:27):
and he says did you, yourealize that drone was there?
And I said no, I said that thatwas just one of those, um,
close calls that fortunately itit happened, but yeah
Speaker 1 (24:39):
um oh he, the idea was to get the shot while he's
banking, remember that.
So so we were the way the, theway we were cruising the boat,
he was trying to bank it so hecan get you.
You shoot with his, his bladesideways.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know what I mean so when we discussed that shoot
um ahead of time, you had said,okay, I wanted to look like
maybe the boat is you're in apursuit, yeah so the boat kind
of aggressive, flying maybe, andmake it look like the
helicopter's trying to catch theboat, yeah so, um, I almost
actually wore my flight helmetand might have been a little bit
(25:19):
too much, but um, so I wore my,my actual flight suit and
everything.
Yeah, just the way I flew, youknow banking back and forth.
Make it look like I was chasingthat video by the way, went, it
went viral, I mean that was theone thing.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
That was probably the best video we've ever shot just
to basically build awarenessfor paradigm storage.
And then we used a lot of itfor Barncage.
We still use a lot of thatfootage, but those were the best
shots we've ever had and it'shard to recreate those shots
because of where we were locatedand the boat and everything and
the day it was a great day, itwas nice and so, man, it was a
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great day, it was nice and so it.
Man it was.
It was so cool.
But I mean, yeah, when you,when you were kind of in the
gorge right before the gorge,right kind of like in and out of
the gorge what do you want tocall it comes towards the south
side of it, but yeah, we kind ofkept doing that turn and you,
just you we still have thatvideo where he's like totally
sideways and I'm like rightunderneath you.
It is such a great shot.
Oh yeah, you had all kinds ofshot.
Yeah, we have a lot of cameraagain.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, that was really pretty cool man when we do a
lot of these boat shoots.
The way I look at it as as, um,as the helicopter operator, um,
not only does the person thathired us that wants pictures of
themselves in their boats, um,they want the, the perfect shot.
So in my'm thinking, okay, Ineed to put the photographer in
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the best position to get thebest shot.
So, wherever that's at and andI'm listening to them, I'm
working for them at the time, sothey're telling me okay, hop
over to the left side, you knowwherever to be at, on the, on
the boat, that's where I'mputting my putting the
helicopter, putting them in theright position.
But I also look at it as theypaid good money to have this
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whole experience.
Not only are they going to getsome awesome pictures, but they
have a helicopter feet from them, um, so to give literally feet
well, safely, yeah, of courseright but they want the
helicopter experience Right andso um.
so that's what I'm also lookingat is I want to give these
people a good experience wherethey're going to remember shoot.
We just had a helicopter and itwas like I could have given her
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a hundred miles an hour in theboat.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah Right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Right, so um, within reason, obviously, get get close
, give them an experience, butput the photographer where he
can get the best shots.
That last forever.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well, man, it's cool because the way you, especially
when you're working with Tommy,he's getting shots of every boat
that's out there.
You guys are just all over theplace getting all kinds of
different.
You see your helicopter and yousee Tommy's work and so many
photos in the industry, fromevery boat builder that's here
(28:00):
in Lake Havasu, or people whocome from Miami out here for
events, or Ozarks.
Your helicopter and your brandis everywhere from being all a
part of this, in essence,culture, the boat culture.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
We have been very blessed, and I don't know what I
can contribute it to, otherthan blessed and lucky.
The boat culture we have beenvery blessed and, and I don't
know what I can contribute it to, other than blessed and lucky
getting getting the right withthe right people.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, and you know he knows everybody.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
He does, he knows everybody, kind of along those
lines is when we started to turnhim eternity.
It was a huge gamble, for forus, right we're putting all this
money out.
We're buying huge gamble for,for us, right, putting all this
money out.
We're buying, you know, andwhat are we going to do?
Is it going to, is it going towork?
So I was talking to a reallygood friend of mine, who I
consider him very successful, um.
(28:44):
And I said, man, am I doing theright thing?
I'm almost 40 years old dudestarting this thing.
I mean, what am I doing?
And he told me, um, which I?
I probably recite this in myown brain every day don't look
at the money, don't chase themoney.
He says, build relationships.
(29:05):
He says the the money will come.
But if you treat people rightand you build those
relationships, um, that's howyou, that's how you have a
successful business.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
That is 100% my business.
It's all relationships and ifyou're doing people right, then
they'll want to continue to workwith you, and he nailed it.
And you know what.
The thing too and I think a lotof people they say it, but do
they really do it Are youactually doing what you love?
And when you do something thatyou love, you're going to be the
top 1% in that industry, andthat's how I see you.
(29:39):
That's why I wanted you to beon here.
I wanted people to.
I want to build awareness ofhow good you really are and how
much fun you can you are withthat helicopter and safe at the
same time, cause that's key.
But you literally are gettingmemorable shots.
That I mean I have.
I have shots that are all overmy social media.
These are shots my kids areseeing using other magazines,
(30:02):
are pulling from and using themother social media.
It's pretty cool, but it's allfrom your positioning, you know.
So you've really got an eye forthat, which is cool because you
nailed it.
People really want specificshots.
They want to be seen a certainway.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, there, you go, there, you go right there, yeah
showing the camera man.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Show them the back so people can see it.
Look at that yeah that's himright there, that's the shot
when we said feet away, weweren't lying.
Huh, you know, it probablylooks closer than it really was,
but is?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
super kind.
Thank you for saying all that.
Um the.
I'm by far not the best pilotout there.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Um, of course you course you're going to say that
Joe would, doesn't he?
He's so humble.
Huh Better than Delta pilots.
Delta pilots, they're, they're,they're helicopter pilots,
aren't they?
Yeah Well.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I appreciate you guys saying that, but but, um, you
know, I don't know.
Just operate the thing safe,that's key, that's key, man.
Well, thank you and I'm sorryto interrupt.
No, you're good Kind of goingback to the.
You had mentioned it earlierthat I said I'm not going to die
in a helicopter.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I know how I'm going to die.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I've said that in the past and I've kind of felt like
man this maybe comes off alittle arrogant, kind of felt
like man this baby comes off alittle arrogant.
And that's the last thing thatI want to come off or sound
arrogant.
Like you know, I can do what Iwant, because I'm not going to
die doing that.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
No, you don't think that way, you don't operate that
way.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
A lot of things that I do jumping out of an airplane,
parachuting or hang glider,whatever I want to do it, I want
to experience it, not because Ihave a death wish or anything,
because I I want to experiencelife.
That's what that's life.
Yeah, um, I don't want to missanything, um, and I know that if
(31:47):
, if, I am in control of what Ican control, um, I can do it
safely.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, well, so that's what that's.
My point is you're not.
You're not.
You're not operating out offear, you're operating out of
professionalism and you're aperfectionist.
That's the one thing I wantedto highlight is, you really are
a perfectionist and I watch howyou operate all the way down to
remember when you had someoneteach you how to start the R44
and you're like it doesn't startthe way it used to.
He showed me this helicopterR44 mechanic from heaven and the
(32:18):
guy showed you to do somethingand it wasn't working.
And you're like dude, that'snot my helicopter.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
He's a test pilot for Robinson, he works for Robinson
and he yeah, so he's, in myopinion, the best of the best
Doesn't get any better.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But it didn't.
But after he went to start ityou're like this, did not, my
helicopter wasn't starting thesame you got it back.
It's running now the same wayyou wanted it.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
He taught me a different procedure, which very
small changes, very subtlethings, but it wasn't my normal
procedure, so it was just.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
But every time you fire, I mean this morning it was
like right up I mean no ifs,ands or buts and that's what's
so nice and no ifs, ands or butsand that's what's so nice.
And then hearing you, just youspend a lot of time going
through your instruments andwriting everything down and
taking your time, you are in norush.
And that was kind of thetestament of what I was trying
to tell Shane and anybody elsegoing hey, they're going.
Why don't you go get yourlicense?
Or why don't you fly, or whydon't you do this?
(33:08):
And I said, well, look, my andI'm always going a million miles
an hour.
That's when accidents happen.
If you bring in the right pilotand that's their job, then the
likelihood of safety is muchhigher.
And that's where I wanteverybody to think about that.
You know, I think a lot ofpeople you know, I'm going to go
buy this, I'm going to go fly,I'm going to do this and have
(33:28):
fun.
Yes, if it's your passion andyou have some downtime, you
don't have a high stressful life, but my life is not that way.
My life is go go all the time.
One phone call changes thewhole entire day for me.
So you know, that's where youknow.
I really appreciated therelationship.
But even you teaching me kindof how you operate and think,
because you really are doingthis as a job, this you want to
(33:50):
be, you're making income for it,you're putting food on the
table, you want to be safe.
So you just look at thingsdifferently than I think.
Someone who just wants to flyfor fun Because when you fly for
fun I feel like people test thewaters a little bit more.
Because you're flying for fun,you're like no, I have souls to
protect and I have to get hereand here.
So you think differently andsometimes those are the
(34:12):
attributes that you want to seein somebody.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
When your life is in someone's hands, um, just like
with anything, right, if, if, ifyou're in a boat and you're the
captain of that boat, everybodyin that boat is your
responsibility.
Um, I used to teach my girlsthis when they were 16 years old
, getting their licenses,learning how to drive.
I said, look, obviously youcan't have all your friends in
the car now because there's lawsagainst that in California.
(34:35):
You have to drive so long byyourself or whatever.
So I said, but once you startputting friends in the car, um,
there, there's, there, nowthere's a hundred distractions.
They're all yelling, screaming,they want to crank the radio up
and all this stuff.
You are responsible foreverybody in that car.
Um, their lives, and not onlyin that car, their lives and not
only in that car but everyother car on the road You're
(34:57):
responsible for there.
So one of your little friendsgets some wild hair, distracts
you.
You go in the other lane.
Now, you've just affectedeverybody in your car's life,
not only to the car thatpotentially you could come in
contact with Other people evenaround there.
Everybody in their life you'veaffected.
Just same way in the helicopterum, if I'm responsible for that
(35:18):
helicopter, I'm flying thathelicopter.
Everybody in that helicopter ismy responsibility.
Um, and, and we're all in ittogether, uh, you know, if, if
heaven forbid, something were tohappen, um, you know, we're all
in this, oh yeah we're togetherso.
So there's been times right thatI that I've told you I can't
(35:38):
fly or won't fly, um, whetherit's weather conditions or
whatever the case is.
Um, because for me it's notsafe and, like I said, you know,
every, every pilot's kind ofgot their own safety um,
protocol limitations, I guess,and so mine are, you know, at at
a certain point I I won't fly.
(35:59):
I'm sorry, I'm not, I'm notgoing to fly, I don't want to
end up as a statistic.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Well Jason.
I have to agree, you areprobably one of the safest
pilots I've ever met.
So let's so.
One last thing where did theeternity helicopters come?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
from?
Where'd you get the idea, thename, the name, um, um.
So when my, when my wife and Igot married, they say you know,
you're married till death, doyou part?
Right?
I didn't like that, brendadidn't like that, so we had them
change it and we said we wantto be married forever and all
eternity.
So that's how they did it.
When we got married married,they said it's not death, dude,
(36:37):
we're married forever and alleternity.
So I have infinity tattoos onme.
Both my daughters have infinitytattoos.
It's kind of our family.
It's your new family crest.
My wife has zero tattoos, soshe's out, but the eternity is
just that.
(36:57):
It's how my wife and I gotmarried and I thought it was
fitting that is really cool.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, dude, jason, thanks for sharing all that.
Buddy, I wanted everybody tosee who you are and who keeps us
safe, and all of our friendsand family and all of our staff,
because you're taking all ourpeople up in the air and showing
them the world.
Because they just love like howit's just, even though people I
think they get just desert,it's ugly.
I'm like, yeah, it's not thatugly.
Get the load next to the water,next to a million dollar boat
and go have some fun.
(37:22):
So well, thank you for joiningme, buddy.
I really appreciate it and forthose of you that are watching
or listening, eternityhelicopters.
You can find them everywheresocial media, google, look them
up.
Jason, you'll talk to his wife,uh as, and so if you guys
decide to book him, he's righthere in Havasu and he travels
all over Southern CaliforniaVegas, phoenix.
He's kind of all over the placebecause he can.
So all right, guys.
Thanks so much for listening,and on to the next.
Hey everybody, ryan Garland here, founder and
chairman of Paradigm.
Thank you for watching ParadigmShift.
We are sponsored today by 10Day Doors.
They are the manufacturer onall of our barn caves project,
all of our structuralengineering, structural steel
and our Paradigm storage product.
So we're happy and I'm excitedtoday to introduce you to Jason
Pope.
He is my helicopter pilot.
He has an R44 and he's donesome amazing things.
(00:22):
So we're going to kind ofinterview him today and kind of
talk about all the wonderfulthings that he's done.
But, uh, I will tell you thereason why I wanted to bring him
on is because he owns eternityhelicopters and he is probably
one of the best pilots I've everseen.
And, uh, I have to.
I have to admit that I've beenwith a lot of pilots and, uh,
some of them scared the livingshit out of me.
(00:42):
But this guy, I mean he getsdown close to the water.
He's doing all these wonderfulfilming.
So all of the filming and allof the videos that you see with
all of our boats and all thecool stuff that you see, this is
the man behind the scenesthat's actually flying.
So, jason, thank you forjoining me today.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, thanks for having me.
Absolutely, buddy.
I mean it's kind of my firstexperience doing something like
this and it's cool.
It's cool to do it and Iappreciate everything you said.
Got to put you in the hot seatman.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Thank you, this is the way to do it Just break the
ice and get going right.
So really I want to moreinterview you and talk a little
bit about your history, yourpast, because I want people out
there that may want to thinkabout hiring you to do other
filming or travel or what haveyou.
So let's talk a little bitabout the business and then
let's talk a little bit aboutyour past.
So let's talk about eternity,helicopters, what you are, what
(01:26):
you do and just kind of thenature of your business at the
moment.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So, um, we are a very small husband wife team.
My wife and I, uh, do ittogether.
We have one helicopter, onepilot, um, but I will say I, I
could not do it without my wifeand friend.
She does all the behind thescenes, all the billing, all the
all the books.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh, I get the bills, I get it Right.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right, all the all that kind of stuff.
Putting the helicopter in theair and flying it safe is is the
operation side, is what I do.
Yeah, behind the scenes is whatshe does.
So basically, we before this Iwas flying a bigger helicopter,
fighting fires.
I loved my job, loved thecompany that I was working for,
(02:11):
loved the people that I wasworking with, but I wanted
something different.
I wanted something new.
When I was on fire, I was inWashington and my schedule was a
12 on 12 off, so, but it workedout to about a 14 day on 10 off
, because you have a travel dayat the beginning of your shift,
(02:32):
after your shift.
Well, I had two girls at home,my wife, my two girls.
I want to be at home, yeah, um.
So we put eternity together, um, and, and me pitching it to my
wife and saying I think we cando this.
Let's go spend a bunch of money.
Let's spend a bunch of moneyand typical guy, buy this
helicopter and I promise it'llwork and so, so, so there's a
(02:56):
little bit of convincing there.
But you know, fortunately shetotally believed in me and we
did it.
We, we put everything.
She's a smart woman, though inme and we did it.
We, uh, we put a smart womanthough she's very, she's very
smart, very smart, um, thank you.
We um.
So we did it.
We went out, we found thehelicopter took me a couple
years to find it we bought itand I and I knew kind of what I
wanted the company to look like,all the way down to the
(03:18):
vehicles that I had, the supportvehicles I had, um, I knew the
color of the support vehicles Ihad.
I knew the color of thehelicopter when I had.
I knew the color of thehelicopter when I was looking
for it, the avionics that Iwanted Very picky, so it took me
a long time to find it.
When we found it, we got it inTexas, bought it in Texas, had
it taken to Oklahoma City.
(03:39):
So they did a whole the pre-buyinspection and I wanted a
hundred hour annual, a hundredhour inspection, the annual,
everything done on it.
So when I pick it up it's readyto go um, flew to oklahoma,
picked it up, flew it home, um,so basically what we do is we we
have an they call it an loa aletter of authorization from the
(04:00):
faa to be a tour company.
So we're in an approved FAAtour company and kind of what
that consists of is the FAA willcome out to your hangar, they
inspected our hangar, theyinspected all of our log books,
and then the helicopter, andthen it was a big interview
process and then we wereapproved for that LOA way.
(04:24):
So after that we kind of wewanted to move more, more into
the filming and video kind ofstuff, which was fun for me
that's the kind of fun flying,sure, um.
So we went and got a what theycall a motion picture movie
manual.
Now, this manual isn'tsomething you get online and say
(04:45):
, okay, you know, print me outall these pages of this manual,
that's that I can operate with.
You have to write the manual,so you have to.
I think it ended up being abouta 16 page document that we
wrote um, this is how we'regoing to operate, these are our
limitations and our restrictionsand basically we file that with
(05:06):
the FAA.
It goes through the wholeapproval process and once it's
approved, it's kind of a bigdeal that you have that.
There's not many operatorssmall operators, I should say
that have a motion picture moviemanual.
So that was approved moviemanual, um, so that was approved
(05:29):
um.
Now when we do our, our, ourshoots, we need event specific
permits, which is easy throughthe once you have your motion
picture movie manual, you applyfor an event permit and you get
your event permit.
Um, so, in the event of uscoming out here and filming all
these boats and stuff going upand down the lake, um, we have a
permit that is specificallydated for those days, for those
days yeah yeah, that is prettycool, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So I remember you and I talking about I wanted our
audience to hear about that andthen you know you were.
I mean you're busy, I mean youseem busy.
I mean I think you had a photoshoot set for tomorrow.
You're getting a bunch of photoshoots for tommy gunn, which is
like the man, the myth, thelegend of photography out here,
and for all the boats and he'straveling all over the country.
He's in miami and he's inozarks.
I mean the guy's all over theplace and he gets the best shots
(06:11):
.
And I remember when I hired him, when you I hired you the first
time to get shots of the boatson I think it was on my ribbon
cutting right, we're correct,yeah and uh, and I just I see
him everywhere and he's, I think, is he, is he.
Has he booked you out for a catfest?
Was it cat fest or desert storm?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
or is it both?
Uh, both both yeah you know,tommy, um kind of a really cool
story with tom, love tom todeath he is.
I've worked, I've worked with alot of good photographers, um,
and a lot of them are, like Isaid, really really good,
professional at what they do.
Um, tom, I, he's, he's, he'sthe elite, I mean he's just he's
(06:54):
good, he's very, very good,very professional.
Um he'll make a slow boat.
Look fast, which is what thepeople that are getting the
photos taken want, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Right, they want, you know make me look fast.
Make me look good, make me lookfast.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Just how he does it.
It's, it's uh, he's awesome towork with, and you guys have
done a lot together, though wewe formed a pretty good
relationship workingrelationship and a personal
relationship.
You know, um, we're we'rebuddies, yeah, um he's just.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I just saw you the other night, right, you guys
came by, you guys were together.
I'm like wait, hold on.
I thought didn't you just gethere?
I didn't know you.
I knew you landed, but I didn'tknow you.
I blinked and I turned around,you guys were both there.
That was really cool, right,all right.
So I, so I got, I'm gonnatotally put you on blast here.
Okay, you got to tell me andtell our audience the story
about when you were hired andthat kid was did that whole like
(07:46):
hey, guess where I'm at you?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
got to tell the story .
Speaker 1 (07:50):
This was an Epic story, mind you guys, everyone
who's listening or watching.
We were on a flight back fromVegas, I think, and you told me
the story and I could not.
I was.
I don't think I've laughed sohard in my life when you're
telling me, when you weretelling me and they're, and the
light bulb clicked on and how itall worked out and why your
wife was getting blown up.
I couldn't.
I was Joe.
(08:10):
Listen to this.
You're going to love this, myfriend.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
This is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
This is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life
.
So you got to tell us the story.
So I was, from the beginning,give the whole story, because
that's what cast is about, man.
Okay, all right, so so I'msorry to put you on blast.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I gotta hear everyone's gonna hear this story
so I can use names and all thatit does oh yeah no problem,
yeah, whatever.
So there's a young kid and he'sa streamer.
I'm not super familiar withthis whole streaming thing, but
but this kid's a streamer, sohe's he.
They call me up, they want meto come up to the rooftop of
this building and the job thisis in la is in LA.
(08:44):
This is in LA.
Okay, not very many buildingsin LA you can land on, but this
one particular one it's 16floors and you can rent the top
floor for an event and it'sbasically just vacant now until
you rent it.
It's an event center, yeah,it's an event space and it's a
360 degrees view of LA, so it'sa super cool spot.
(09:07):
Well, this kid's going to be upthere and we're going to do
filming, so it's a filming gig.
I land, take the helicopter andland on top of this building
and I didn't realize theproduction that it was actually
going to be.
I mean, they had these camerasthat you see on the news, right?
mean these four foot long giantcameras and I'm like, oh, this
(09:29):
is a bigger deal than I thought.
So we landed and, uh, the kidwasn't there yet.
Um, kai colette, kai calaiscolette, something like that,
something like that, kai um, andhe streams himself, like I
guess, 24 hours a day.
This kid just streams and showsyou his life and smokes weed
(09:50):
with with snoop dog and and justdoes whatever and streams it.
And so I'm like this kid'smaking that much money, um, and
they tell me you know how muchthis kid's?
I'm like, oh, my god, I'm inthe wrong business.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah sure, yeah, so it's crazy this stuff you hear
and how these people are makingmoney.
It's wild Right.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So the basis of that day in this event was if you
find Kai, you get $100,000.
So he had $100,000 cash that hedumped out and he's got a
massive following, doesn't he?
Oh, massive he's.
I guess, from my understandingand, like I said, I'm not super
familiar, but from myunderstanding he was like a top
(10:28):
streamer or something.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Okay, okay, so he's got millions of followers, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And it was crazy because, as we're sitting there
and he's going through thiswhole thing, he says you know
he's calling them subs, you knowI need 500 more subs.
And each one of these subs cometo find out like subscribers.
We're giving them $5, $10, $100for access to watch him.
And it's blowing my mind thewhole time I'm standing there.
(10:53):
So the whole thing is you'vegot to find out where Kai's at.
So they start with the cameraon Kai at just his mouth, so all
you can see is his mouth andhe's talking.
And once he gets 500subscribers, you're going to see
his face.
And then the the screen kind ofgets bigger and bigger as he
(11:13):
gets more subscribers.
So so it gets bigger.
And then at one point they theyhave it where him and his buddy
are sitting there and it lookslike a living room, whole stage
set up on top of this building,and then your helicopters in the
background, helicopters behindthe backdrop that they had set
up, and so 500 more subscribers.
(11:36):
And, okay, now we drop the back.
And so the back drops andthere's my helicopter sitting
there, okay, well, behind myhelicopter was the Hollywood
sign.
You can see the Hollywood sign.
You can see the Hollywood sign.
Okay.
So now everybody's kind ofknowing, okay, we're in LA,
obviously downtown LA, on therooftop of this building, and
there's a helicopter.
(11:57):
Well, as I'm standing there, myphone starts ringing and I'm
like, oh shoot, you know, and Ihave it on silent because it's a
production thing, so.
So I kind of stepped to theside and I answered my phone and
it was a.
I don't really know what theguy did.
He said he was like an aircraftbroker or something along those
lines.
He says I need to know whereyou're at.
And I said well, I I don't.
(12:19):
I don't know who you are.
I can't tell you where I'm at.
I said I'm working and um, partof this job is is um got to be
disc?
Are I can't tell you where I'mat.
I said I'm working and part ofthis job is got to be discreet.
And I can't tell you where I'mat.
He said, well, let me tell youwhat's going on.
He says I'm looking for Kai.
He says there's a hundredthousand dollars that Kai's
given.
He says I'll split it with youIf you tell me where you're at.
(12:40):
I said okay.
I said I'm still not going totell you where I'm at.
I said I can't.
It's the job I can't tell youwhere I'm at.
Well, so anyways, long storyshort, a kid finally finds us
and they bring him up to the topof the roof and congratulations
.
They give him, you know, the$100,000 is on a pile on the
(13:00):
table.
Well, they give him this big,you know four foot check that
he's holding, they write hisname on it and all that so.
Well, now we're on top of thisbuilding.
So they want to film Kai flyingoff of the building and flying
away, and at that point it wasprobably the only safe way to
get Kai out of there.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Just the amount of people, huh, just the amount of
people and stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It was going crazy.
Well, my, after I get off thephone with this this guy that I
told him I'm not going to tellmore, is that my wife's calling
me.
And so when she's calling me,like I answer, um, and and she's
saying, now, were you on, wereyou in flight?
Now, no, no, I was still on topof the building, okay, and it
was.
Right after this, thisgentleman called me and I and I
hung up with him.
Um, my wife calls and says areyou okay?
I said yeah, I'm fine, we'redoing this job over here.
She says my phone won't stopringing.
(13:51):
She says I'm in a meeting withattorneys and some of the
property owners that she workswith and stuff.
She says I can't take this call.
My phone doesn't stop ringing.
She says I'm going to have toturn my phone off.
So she was getting call aftercall after call and and so I'm
like because they saw eternityhelicopters what it was was my
(14:13):
tail number and eternityhelicopters was all visible, so
you could google the tail numberand see who who owns the
aircraft.
Yeah, um, well then, theygoogled the company name and
they got a hold of us andthey're trying to find out where
we're at.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Wasn't she freaking out?
Thought you crashed orsomething at one?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
point.
She was pretty nervous therefor a second because there's so
many, you know where's youraircraft and and all this other
stuff that.
And she had no idea, because Ididn't have no idea when we were
going to this job.
I just knew we were filming andthat's all I needed to know.
I didn't know the wholebackstory to what Kai was doing.
Um, so so she ends up turningher phone off because it it
(14:55):
won't stop ringing in in hermeetings.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I couldn't even imagine being her.
You're freaking out, knowingyou're flying and your phone's
blowing up and you're kind ofgoing like wait, hold on, wait.
Did you crash?
Did what happened?
Oh man, I can only imagineright knowing her too.
Her heart probably just wasn'tstopped beating right.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So she felt better after she talked to me and we I
told her you know this is a?
Uh, people are looking for him.
You know he's giving this moneyaway for who can find him first
.
Um, so now I have to take kaiand fly him um out of there.
He gets in the helicopter andthe kid is um, he's a younger
(15:34):
kid, pretty animated, you know.
Full head of dreadlocks.
Um, pretty funny kid, I guess12.3 million subscribers Okay.
Well, there you go, wow.
So he gets in the helicopterand, oh, this is cool, and you
know he's, he's he got a littlebit of a lingo to him, I guess.
(15:57):
Um, and we take off.
Now I have in my, in thehelicopter, I have Kai sitting
in the front seat, the guy thatwon the $100,000 sitting in the
back seat and then the guythat's filming sitting behind me
.
So we pick up and I take off ofthis building and Kai starts
screaming and he's like this isthe coolest thing.
(16:21):
And he says I'm in Grand TheftAuto.
I'm in Grand Theft Auto and I'mlike, oh crap.
So I?
He was so loud I had to isolatehis mic, so I turned his mic
off.
He's screaming so loud I stillcan't hear atc because I need to
fly into santa monica, la, yeah, down to la flying into santa
(16:41):
monica is pretty congested, um,and you have santa monica is
very particular on how you flyin there, the, the procedure to
get in there, um and you, so youneed to be able to hear them.
So so he's screaming at the topof his lungs.
He's in grand theft auto flyingthis helicopter he's on
facetime or something, what's hedoing?
They had all these cameras andeverything set up in the
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helicopter.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You have it.
Oh yeah, why is it on YouTube?
Oh, it's awesome.
I've got to watch this.
It's awesome.
We're going to clip it intothis podcast dude, so I have to
isolate him.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm still struggling to hear ATC.
I take him, we land at SantaMonica Airport, do the whole
filming.
It's all live stream andeverything's there.
Um, now the the escalade, blackescalator whatever is picking
kaya pulls up to the helicopter.
You know, and heaven forbid youwalk into the fbo.
(17:34):
No, the escalate has to pullout to the helicopter.
So they come out.
He jumps in there and thecameraman and the kid that just
won the hundred thousand dollarsare standing there and they're
going.
So, like now what?
And I said well, I don't know.
What do you mean?
What?
What are you looking at me for?
I'm going home.
You're like get out like myjob's done and they're like well
, we don't, we don't have a rideback to the building or we
(17:55):
don't have a.
Well, you may have to call uber.
I mean the building's the otherway, I'm going that way, the
building's that way, so, um, sothey ubered them.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's just all isolated and quiet yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So the camera guy calls an uber, gets an uber, he
gone.
Yeah, he's gone with all thisstuff.
The kid that won the hundredthousand dollars, uh, I don't, I
don't want to jump to.
Sure, I don't know if he hadthe means to to uber, so he's
standing outside did you have?
his money.
He didn't know.
I don't know what he had withhim because it was probably 20,
(18:31):
30 minutes that I'm doing all mything, getting fuel and getting
everything I need to get, uh,to get home, and I look outside.
He's standing outside on thecurb and so I go, hey, like, are
you good, like you have?
He says yeah, I called my buddy, my buddy's coming to pick me
up, so so he had a friend comingto pick him up.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Meanwhile kai was was on the road going dude, could
you imagine, just I, I think,when you were telling me the
first time, I'm like I can onlyimagine brenda, your wife, just
going.
Oh my because I think, justbecause, dude, that many phone
calls that fast, you thinkyou're getting an accident.
And that's what she thought.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, I know, yeah.
And so until she spoke to meshe was pretty nervous, because
everybody that was calling herwas kind of a how do you answer
that Like?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
where are you guys at ?
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I'm a joker anyways, you know, yeah, where are you at
?
What are you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I want to know what the money with you that kind of
stuff, Could you imagine I'llsplit the money with you.
Where are you guys at?
That's funny.
Yeah, I couldn't do it.
When you told me that story, Icouldn't believe it.
Man, I think that made my day.
I'm coming back from astressful day.
Yeah, that was.
That was pretty funny.
Well, thank you for sharingthat.
(19:41):
So the other, you know, I'veI've flown a lot.
I like being up in the air andI travel a lot and the one thing
that's really cool and I alwaystell everybody when you have
you have you know, you you spendtime with a pilot and you kind
of hear all the stories andyou're going to hear um, you
know, I guess where I reallyappreciate about you is how much
of a family man you are.
So a lot of our conversations,you know, looking at God's
(20:02):
country and we're up in the air,has been really family oriented
and um, and I think there waslike a brotherhood that was
created.
So I really consider you one ofmy closest friends and now
you're flying my son around andit's so.
It's just very rewardingknowing that you are, in essence
, another mentor for him,because he's experiencing the
things that I experienced whenhe get up there.
He texted me when he landed.
(20:23):
He said it was his coolestthing and he can't wait to come
out again and that type of stuffand uh, and that's the biggest
blessing.
But you know that I thinkthere's, there really is a
brotherhood that's created whenyou're up in the air, like that,
because there's there really is, there is you just look at
things differently when you'redown on the ground.
It's just so different frombeing up in the air.
You know, once you get up in theair, you're like man, this is
the way to travel.
(20:43):
It's like you know, it's like atime machine.
It saves you time.
It's just the best thing in theworld.
But when you're down on theground, you're like man, can you
just fly me to my house realquick?
It'll take four minutes when ittakes me 30 minutes to get
there, you know.
But to bring you on was youknow how?
It was really cool that you saidyesterday that you feel in your
(21:05):
heart that you're never goingto die in a helicopter.
You're going to die an old manin a bed.
And that's really cool becausethat means that you know in your
heart you're never going to,you're not going to be dead in a
helicopter, and that's cool forsomeone like me to hear that
you feel so convicted that youare always going to be safe.
But that does go hand in handwith my belief in you from the
beginning and how you'vepracticed and all the things
(21:26):
you've taught me and so forth,and I just want to thank you for
that.
And I want to thank youpublicly because you know I do
have a lot of responsibilitiesand and when my with my son and
so forth, you're probably one ofthe best men I know and I've
never seen another man thatcares so much about his family,
that wants to fly, enjoy hislife, but is always there to
make his family, his life, hiseverything.
And I wanted to publicly tellyou that.
(21:48):
And I want to tell everybodyelse how much you know, if they
decide to reach out to you, um,that they're in good hands and
that's the most important thing.
When you're in a little R44, youknow.
And it's just a littledifferent because everyone's
been to like small planes, noteveryone's been in a helicopter.
I've learned that right.
Remember, when we had the firstribbon cutting, you took
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everyone on tours.
Sure, everybody's never been ina helicopter before.
Joe, were you in a helicopterbefore that one?
No, you were not.
Well, with derrick, no, okay,yeah, one time before that one
time.
But even then, and just just tomake sure, so it's with derrick
the one that introduced you to.
Oh, that's right.
So joe did introduce us.
Wait, how did you?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
introduce us again.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You remember we were looking for me?
Oh, that's right.
So Joe did introduce us.
Wait, how did you introduce usagain, do you remember?
Oh, that's right.
And you found him somewhere.
Yeah, so he was looking.
We were looking for the old guythat we used Correct, but he
found you and you're likeactually, and that's kind of how
I hooked up with Tom Tommy Lee.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, he contacted me and said, hey, you and you're
like actually, and and that'skind of how I hooked up with tom
tommy lee.
Yeah, um, he contacted me andsaid, hey, uh, this is what I
got going.
I'm a photographer in havasu.
Um, I've flown with with theother gentleman that would that
had the company, um, but I'mlook, I need a new helicopter.
Uh, he's not operating anymore.
Yeah, I need a new helicopter.
So that was my introduction toHavasu and I've been coming out
(23:06):
here for a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, you have a house here, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I was very familiar with Havasu so it wasn't like
completely new to me.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So do you remember the first time I think it was
our very first time when I hadmy Doug Wright and we were going
up the river and you up up theriver and you were low?
I mean, you were low, we had.
It looked like we were doing ahundred miles an hour.
I think we probably were.
You were so low and I had myother buddy that was filming in
the in the plane right below onthe other side of us, there's in
the in the boat, both side ofus, and you were're on the far
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side from the camera of my boatand you were so low it looked
like your skids were on thefront.
Did you remember that?
Do you remember, do you kind ofremember that shot?
It was a while you were runningwith me for a while.
I do remember filming that boatoh, that was on a different day
yeah, that was a good, that wasa learning experience yeah,
don't hit the drone.
Don't hit the helicopter withthe drone, joe yeah, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Um, we were fairly new to each other.
Um, so working together was wasfairly new and and I take
responsibility on not asking theright questions, right, um, hey
, joe, don't fly into me please.
The the shot was super cool itwas a great shot.
Yeah, that's a super cool shot.
But, um, I did talk with one ofmy my buddies, I think it's tom
(24:27):
and he says did you, yourealize that drone was there?
And I said no, I said that thatwas just one of those, um,
close calls that fortunately itit happened, but yeah
Speaker 1 (24:39):
um oh he, the idea was to get the shot while he's
banking, remember that.
So so we were the way the, theway we were cruising the boat,
he was trying to bank it so hecan get you.
You shoot with his, his bladesideways.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You know what I mean so when we discussed that shoot
um ahead of time, you had said,okay, I wanted to look like
maybe the boat is you're in apursuit, yeah so the boat kind
of aggressive, flying maybe, andmake it look like the
helicopter's trying to catch theboat, yeah so, um, I almost
actually wore my flight helmetand might have been a little bit
(25:19):
too much, but um, so I wore my,my actual flight suit and
everything.
Yeah, just the way I flew, youknow banking back and forth.
Make it look like I was chasingthat video by the way, went, it
went viral, I mean that was theone thing.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
That was probably the best video we've ever shot just
to basically build awarenessfor paradigm storage.
And then we used a lot of itfor Barncage.
We still use a lot of thatfootage, but those were the best
shots we've ever had and it'shard to recreate those shots
because of where we were locatedand the boat and everything and
the day it was a great day, itwas nice and so, man, it was a
(25:59):
great day, it was nice and so it.
Man it was.
It was so cool.
But I mean, yeah, when you,when you were kind of in the
gorge right before the gorge,right kind of like in and out of
the gorge what do you want tocall it comes towards the south
side of it, but yeah, we kind ofkept doing that turn and you,
just you we still have thatvideo where he's like totally
sideways and I'm like rightunderneath you.
It is such a great shot.
Oh yeah, you had all kinds ofshot.
Yeah, we have a lot of cameraagain.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, that was really pretty cool man when we do a
lot of these boat shoots.
The way I look at it as as, um,as the helicopter operator, um,
not only does the person thathired us that wants pictures of
themselves in their boats, um,they want the, the perfect shot.
So in my'm thinking, okay, Ineed to put the photographer in
(26:37):
the best position to get thebest shot.
So, wherever that's at and andI'm listening to them, I'm
working for them at the time, sothey're telling me okay, hop
over to the left side, you knowwherever to be at, on the, on
the boat, that's where I'mputting my putting the
helicopter, putting them in theright position.
But I also look at it as theypaid good money to have this
(27:03):
whole experience.
Not only are they going to getsome awesome pictures, but they
have a helicopter feet from them, um, so to give literally feet
well, safely, yeah, of courseright but they want the
helicopter experience Right andso um.
so that's what I'm also lookingat is I want to give these
people a good experience wherethey're going to remember shoot.
We just had a helicopter and itwas like I could have given her
(27:26):
a hundred miles an hour in theboat.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah Right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Right, so um, within reason, obviously, get get close
, give them an experience, butput the photographer where he
can get the best shots.
That last forever.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well, man, it's cool because the way you, especially
when you're working with Tommy,he's getting shots of every boat
that's out there.
You guys are just all over theplace getting all kinds of
different.
You see your helicopter and yousee Tommy's work and so many
photos in the industry, fromevery boat builder that's here
(28:00):
in Lake Havasu, or people whocome from Miami out here for
events, or Ozarks.
Your helicopter and your brandis everywhere from being all a
part of this, in essence,culture, the boat culture.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
We have been very blessed, and I don't know what I
can contribute it to, otherthan blessed and lucky.
The boat culture we have beenvery blessed and, and I don't
know what I can contribute it to, other than blessed and lucky
getting getting the right withthe right people.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, and you know he knows everybody.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
He does, he knows everybody, kind of along those
lines is when we started to turnhim eternity.
It was a huge gamble, for forus, right we're putting all this
money out.
We're buying huge gamble for,for us, right, putting all this
money out.
We're buying, you know, andwhat are we going to do?
Is it going to, is it going towork?
So I was talking to a reallygood friend of mine, who I
consider him very successful, um.
(28:44):
And I said, man, am I doing theright thing?
I'm almost 40 years old dudestarting this thing.
I mean, what am I doing?
And he told me, um, which I?
I probably recite this in myown brain every day don't look
at the money, don't chase themoney.
He says, build relationships.
(29:05):
He says the the money will come.
But if you treat people rightand you build those
relationships, um, that's howyou, that's how you have a
successful business.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
That is 100% my business.
It's all relationships and ifyou're doing people right, then
they'll want to continue to workwith you, and he nailed it.
And you know what.
The thing too and I think a lotof people they say it, but do
they really do it Are youactually doing what you love?
And when you do something thatyou love, you're going to be the
top 1% in that industry, andthat's how I see you.
(29:39):
That's why I wanted you to beon here.
I wanted people to.
I want to build awareness ofhow good you really are and how
much fun you can you are withthat helicopter and safe at the
same time, cause that's key.
But you literally are gettingmemorable shots.
That I mean I have.
I have shots that are all overmy social media.
These are shots my kids areseeing using other magazines,
(30:02):
are pulling from and using themother social media.
It's pretty cool, but it's allfrom your positioning, you know.
So you've really got an eye forthat, which is cool because you
nailed it.
People really want specificshots.
They want to be seen a certainway.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, there, you go, there, you go right there, yeah
showing the camera man.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Show them the back so people can see it.
Look at that yeah that's himright there, that's the shot
when we said feet away, weweren't lying.
Huh, you know, it probablylooks closer than it really was,
but is?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
super kind.
Thank you for saying all that.
Um the.
I'm by far not the best pilotout there.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Um, of course you course you're going to say that
Joe would, doesn't he?
He's so humble.
Huh Better than Delta pilots.
Delta pilots, they're, they're,they're helicopter pilots,
aren't they?
Yeah Well.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I appreciate you guys saying that, but but, um, you
know, I don't know.
Just operate the thing safe,that's key, that's key, man.
Well, thank you and I'm sorryto interrupt.
No, you're good Kind of goingback to the.
You had mentioned it earlierthat I said I'm not going to die
in a helicopter.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I know how I'm going to die.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I've said that in the past and I've kind of felt like
man this maybe comes off alittle arrogant, kind of felt
like man this baby comes off alittle arrogant.
And that's the last thing thatI want to come off or sound
arrogant.
Like you know, I can do what Iwant, because I'm not going to
die doing that.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
No, you don't think that way, you don't operate that
way.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
A lot of things that I do jumping out of an airplane,
parachuting or hang glider,whatever I want to do it, I want
to experience it, not because Ihave a death wish or anything,
because I I want to experiencelife.
That's what that's life.
Yeah, um, I don't want to missanything, um, and I know that if
(31:47):
, if, I am in control of what Ican control, um, I can do it
safely.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, well, so that's what that's.
My point is you're not.
You're not.
You're not operating out offear, you're operating out of
professionalism and you're aperfectionist.
That's the one thing I wantedto highlight is, you really are
a perfectionist and I watch howyou operate all the way down to
remember when you had someoneteach you how to start the R44
and you're like it doesn't startthe way it used to.
He showed me this helicopterR44 mechanic from heaven and the
(32:18):
guy showed you to do somethingand it wasn't working.
And you're like dude, that'snot my helicopter.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
He's a test pilot for Robinson, he works for Robinson
and he yeah, so he's, in myopinion, the best of the best
Doesn't get any better.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But it didn't.
But after he went to start ityou're like this, did not, my
helicopter wasn't starting thesame you got it back.
It's running now the same wayyou wanted it.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
He taught me a different procedure, which very
small changes, very subtlethings, but it wasn't my normal
procedure, so it was just.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
But every time you fire, I mean this morning it was
like right up I mean no ifs,ands or buts and that's what's
so nice and no ifs, ands or butsand that's what's so nice.
And then hearing you, just youspend a lot of time going
through your instruments andwriting everything down and
taking your time, you are in norush.
And that was kind of thetestament of what I was trying
to tell Shane and anybody elsegoing hey, they're going.
Why don't you go get yourlicense?
Or why don't you fly, or whydon't you do this?
(33:08):
And I said, well, look, my andI'm always going a million miles
an hour.
That's when accidents happen.
If you bring in the right pilotand that's their job, then the
likelihood of safety is muchhigher.
And that's where I wanteverybody to think about that.
You know, I think a lot ofpeople you know, I'm going to go
buy this, I'm going to go fly,I'm going to do this and have
(33:28):
fun.
Yes, if it's your passion andyou have some downtime, you
don't have a high stressful life, but my life is not that way.
My life is go go all the time.
One phone call changes thewhole entire day for me.
So you know, that's where youknow.
I really appreciated therelationship.
But even you teaching me kindof how you operate and think,
because you really are doingthis as a job, this you want to
(33:50):
be, you're making income for it,you're putting food on the
table, you want to be safe.
So you just look at thingsdifferently than I think.
Someone who just wants to flyfor fun Because when you fly for
fun I feel like people test thewaters a little bit more.
Because you're flying for fun,you're like no, I have souls to
protect and I have to get hereand here.
So you think differently andsometimes those are the
(34:12):
attributes that you want to seein somebody.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
When your life is in someone's hands, um, just like
with anything, right, if, if, ifyou're in a boat and you're the
captain of that boat, everybodyin that boat is your
responsibility.
Um, I used to teach my girlsthis when they were 16 years old
, getting their licenses,learning how to drive.
I said, look, obviously youcan't have all your friends in
the car now because there's lawsagainst that in California.
(34:35):
You have to drive so long byyourself or whatever.
So I said, but once you startputting friends in the car, um,
there, there's, there, nowthere's a hundred distractions.
They're all yelling, screaming,they want to crank the radio up
and all this stuff.
You are responsible foreverybody in that car.
Um, their lives, and not onlyin that car, their lives and not
only in that car but everyother car on the road You're
(34:57):
responsible for there.
So one of your little friendsgets some wild hair, distracts
you.
You go in the other lane.
Now, you've just affectedeverybody in your car's life,
not only to the car thatpotentially you could come in
contact with Other people evenaround there.
Everybody in their life you'veaffected.
Just same way in the helicopterum, if I'm responsible for that
(35:18):
helicopter, I'm flying thathelicopter.
Everybody in that helicopter ismy responsibility.
Um, and, and we're all in ittogether, uh, you know, if, if
heaven forbid, something were tohappen, um, you know, we're all
in this, oh yeah we're togetherso.
So there's been times right thatI that I've told you I can't
(35:38):
fly or won't fly, um, whetherit's weather conditions or
whatever the case is.
Um, because for me it's notsafe and, like I said, you know,
every, every pilot's kind ofgot their own safety um,
protocol limitations, I guess,and so mine are, you know, at at
a certain point I I won't fly.
(35:59):
I'm sorry, I'm not, I'm notgoing to fly, I don't want to
end up as a statistic.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Well Jason.
I have to agree, you areprobably one of the safest
pilots I've ever met.
So let's so.
One last thing where did theeternity helicopters come?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
from?
Where'd you get the idea, thename, the name, um, um.
So when my, when my wife and Igot married, they say you know,
you're married till death, doyou part?
Right?
I didn't like that, brendadidn't like that, so we had them
change it and we said we wantto be married forever and all
eternity.
So that's how they did it.
When we got married married,they said it's not death, dude,
(36:37):
we're married forever and alleternity.
So I have infinity tattoos onme.
Both my daughters have infinitytattoos.
It's kind of our family.
It's your new family crest.
My wife has zero tattoos, soshe's out, but the eternity is
just that.
(36:57):
It's how my wife and I gotmarried and I thought it was
fitting that is really cool.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, dude, jason, thanks for sharing all that.
Buddy, I wanted everybody tosee who you are and who keeps us
safe, and all of our friendsand family and all of our staff,
because you're taking all ourpeople up in the air and showing
them the world.
Because they just love like howit's just, even though people I
think they get just desert,it's ugly.
I'm like, yeah, it's not thatugly.
Get the load next to the water,next to a million dollar boat
and go have some fun.
(37:22):
So well, thank you for joiningme, buddy.
I really appreciate it and forthose of you that are watching
or listening, eternityhelicopters.
You can find them everywheresocial media, google, look them
up.
Jason, you'll talk to his wife,uh as, and so if you guys
decide to book him, he's righthere in Havasu and he travels
all over Southern CaliforniaVegas, phoenix.
He's kind of all over the placebecause he can.
So all right, guys.
Thanks so much for listening,and on to the next.
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